Open Thread – Mon 30 Sept 2024


Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, Viktor Vasnetsov, 1887

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Pogria
Pogria
October 2, 2024 12:57 pm

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2024 1:13 pm
Reply to  Pogria

I like Vance’s sceptical face…

https://x.com/EsotericCD/status/1841296208976883729

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(via Instapundit)

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
October 2, 2024 12:59 pm

It certainly reinforced the point that the MSM can’t be trusted with debates.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 2, 2024 1:21 pm
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

Totally, what a load of biased questions offering support to Walz.

Rabz
October 2, 2024 1:04 pm

Vance hammering the appalling economic record of geriatric joe and the cackling kamel.

Meanwhile – “WW, why did you claim to be in Tiananmen Square when the CCP didn’t massacre a whole bunch of reactionary students?”

WW: Well, I’m a knucklehead who grew up in a small rural town …”

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Arky
October 2, 2024 1:15 pm

I think the winner of that debate was four more years of inflation and higher interest rates.

Rabz
October 2, 2024 1:18 pm

the winner of that debate was four more years of inflation and higher interest rates

Not to mention a whole bunch of butchered babies. Winners. Every single one of them.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 2, 2024 1:20 pm

OK, that’s it.

I LOVE JD VANCE.

He’s the same age as my youngest son so the feeling is platonic, but he simply aced that debate against that old, tired and mediocre-level hack Walz, whom Hairy still says is not to be pitied because he is a nasty piece of work.

That Yale polish was showing beautifully and shining brightly for Vance as well the good things that he managed to convey. I could make critiques but I’m not going to do that. I think we saw a similar thing to a young JFK in action there – rising to the firmament. He knows how to deal with the elites as well as coming across as an ordinary man doing extraordinary things.

Vicki
Vicki
October 2, 2024 2:08 pm

We are on the same page, Lizzie!

Megan
Megan
October 2, 2024 2:23 pm

Have admired him since I read Hillbilly Elegy. An extraordinary life story, with new chapters to write.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 2, 2024 5:03 pm
Reply to  Megan

Reading it now, Megan, nearly through the early childhood and adolescent stuff and so many times going – wow you too? – in it for me. Possibly that is so for many readers, because he’s talking about the way the culture of poverty once was, and what it has become once a taste of affluence intervened and then was taken away again. The no-work druggie culture of dependence and don’t-care that so many of his generation have had to contend with.

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2024 1:29 pm

Albanese weighs into Qld election battle with savage LNP swipe and says he has ‘no doubt’ he’ll make campaign trip for Miles (Sky News, 2 Oct)

Albanese might want to focus on his home state, where federal Labor has just fallen to a historic low of 30% according to Newspoll, meaning they’re on track to lose at least 3-4 seats.

Rabz
October 2, 2024 1:34 pm

feral labore has just fallen to a historic low of 30% according to Newspoll, meaning they’re on track to lose at least 3-4 seats

Excellent news, although Sydney and Grayndler are likely to be snaffled by the greenfilth.

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2024 1:39 pm
Reply to  Rabz

Meanwhile, Albo has promised to head north where Miles has said he’ll share power with the Greens if necessary.

The only potentially good thing about the rise of the Greens is that they will split the uniparty.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 2, 2024 2:13 pm
Reply to  Rabz

Seems the votes aren’t being picked up by the Lieborals. 2PP might come to their rescue.

Rabz
October 2, 2024 1:36 pm

Uh oh, Vance doesn’t like economists. Can’t imagine why.

Entropy
Entropy
October 2, 2024 4:15 pm
Reply to  Rabz

The lack of hygiene?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 2, 2024 1:36 pm

Indigenous Australians Minister Malarndirri McCarthy says Parliament ‘not ready for Makarrata”Dan Jervis-BardyThe West Australian
Wed, 2 October 2024 2:00AM

Plans for a Makarrata Commission to oversee Indigenous truth-telling and treaty making will not be revived before the next Federal election as Labor tries to avoid a re-run of the divisive Voice debate.
Minister for Indigenous Australians Malarndirri McCarthy admitted Federal Parliament was “not ready” to embrace the idea, blaming Opposition Leader Peter Dutton for politicising Makarrata and killing off any prospects of bi-partisan support.
Almost 12 months on from the Voice to Parliament’s resounding referendum defeat, Senator McCarthy said the Government needed to be “really cautious” about pursuing a policy that could be weaponised against Indigenous Australians.
“I think that the intent behind Makarrata is sincere with that call for truth-telling, but our Parliament is not ready for that,” she said, adding things could change depending on who was voted in at the next election.
A Makarrata Commission and a constitutionally enshrined Voice to Parliament were the two requests in the Uluru Statement from the Heart that Labor committed to deliver in full.
After losing the Voice referendum, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was accused of walking away from the truth-telling body after only endorsing the principle of Makaratta — a Yolgnu word that means “coming together after a struggle” — during an interview at August’s Garma Festival.
In her first interview with The West since replacing Linda Burney in the porfolio, Senator McCarthy said while Labor still believed in Makarratta it was reluctant to pursue the proposal without the Opposition’s support.

Mr Dutton has ruled out creating a national treaty and truth-telling body if he wins the next Federal election, saying a Coalition government would spend the money on practical measures instead.
“I do value the fact that the principle of voice, treaty, truth is still very strong. You know, we do believe in that,” Senator McCarthy said.
“But we also accept the political reality that if you’re going to weaponise Indigenous Affairs to the extent that we saw through the referendum, we have to be very careful as to how we progress forward and to ensure that we can try and get bipartisanship.
“We have to be really cautious progressing that path and enabling that kind of weaponisation again towards First Nations people.”
Senator McCarthy last month toured Banksia Hill Detention Centre just days after the death of a 17-year-old inside the troubled facility — the second death in WA’s youth justice system in 10 months.
After talks with Aboriginal legal groups and new WA Corrective Services Commissioner Brad Royce, she said everyone agreed there “was an issue that had to be dealt with”.
“What I didn’t hear was universal agreement on how that would happen,” she added.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2024 1:43 pm

Is the Makarrata anything like the Maccarena?

Pogria
Pogria
October 2, 2024 2:34 pm

Almost, you are only allowed to dance on one leg.

Chris
Chris
October 2, 2024 3:22 pm

Labor STILL BELIEVES in Makkaratta.
FMD.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2024 1:40 pm

And the memes are already happening! The WIP should be excellent, although the way things are going maybe a midweek WIP could be in the pipeline.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
October 2, 2024 1:45 pm

Dissappointed in Vance.
He didn’t seem to get the fundamental fact that the moderators would never put hard questions to Vance, and so he should have been ready to.
The moderators would never fact-check Walz- he should have, with chips.
In short, the Blob framed the debate. And won.
Note i listened sporadically on headphones while working.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
October 2, 2024 1:58 pm
Reply to  Wally Dali

Agreeing to a debate on CBS, MSNBC or CNN would be the main mistake.

Vicki
Vicki
October 2, 2024 2:07 pm
Reply to  Wally Dali

Wally, we must have been listening to a different debate. And Vance would not have been permitted by the partisan CBC ladies to fact check his opponent, since their rules did not permit it. Vance successfully did it once and got away with it.

Rabz
October 2, 2024 1:49 pm

Brilliant – almost thought I hadn’t heard WW say this: “I’ve become friends with school shooters”.

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Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
October 2, 2024 1:56 pm

The abortion debate in the USA has become incredibly dishonest – although credible in the current climate that it goes down this path.
They always want to quote an individual who was denied an abortion in her state, and had to travel to get it, or had something awful happen because she couldn’t.
If states can’t legislate on this matter, why have states? Each has its own governor, each has its own legislature, its own police force.If you don’t like your state you can move. If you can’t get an abortion there you can travel to another place, it’s not that expensive. People move all the time, like from NY to Florida, California to Florida, Blue State to Red state.
A woman’s ability to “control her own body” isn’t just about abortion.

Rabz
October 2, 2024 2:01 pm

The abortion debate in the USA has become incredibly dishonest

Yep, there is no “constitutional right to abortion” you loathsome ghouls.

Vicki
Vicki
October 2, 2024 2:04 pm

Haven’t yet read what other Cats are saying about the debate. Watched it pretty much in entirety, unfortunately interrupted by a neighbouring farmer who sat down to watch it with us & yabbered on and kept diverting from the debate!

Anyway, watched enough for a verdict.

Walz seemed to us like a used car salesman. Very pressured in his “sell”. Tried to look believable, but like many car salesmen – tried too hard. And he became increasingly rattled as it was clear that Vance was giving a peak performance.

Husband just said that Sky is saying it was a “master class” from JD. I agree. That military background, combined with legal training, ensured a really measured & calm performance. JD came across as a genuine, family man who loves his country, and is also exceptionally talented. Personally, I would put my life in his hands in an emergency.

I did like the agreement both men reached on certain points. Very civilised. Walz actually performed better than I expected, but, for the reasons above, I would not trust him with anything of importance to me.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
October 2, 2024 2:08 pm

Lizzie, in a convoluted inversion, i think i’m like the radio audience who gave the debate to Nixon, whereas you’re the TV watchers who liked Kennedy.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 2, 2024 5:27 pm
Reply to  Wally Dali

Nice analogy, Wally. Yes, there was a dynamism about Vance, it became visually quite charismatic, those penetrating blue eyes. Walz floundered in masses of examples and detail, often local, whereas Vance cut to the chase, always, taking a national perspective and not allowing the loaded questions to get in the way of his arguments. I’ll bet any sixth former could summarise Vance’s main points, but couldn’t really get a handle on Walz’s drifting rambles. It’s an old media and debating trick – hammer home your main three points and keep repeating them in various versions. Don’t be waylaid.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 2, 2024 5:30 pm

He’s also young and vital and delivering what Kamala claims as her schtick – Joy. She’s a bit old for that now and her joy descends into cackles more often than not, but he’s career perfect for it. He radiates it, enthusiasm personified, clear and sound as a bell ringing.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 2, 2024 2:14 pm

A fantastic contribution from Cleetus and all the private helicopter pilots that helped with the relief efforts …and still are. They all dipped into their into their own pockets to get there.

People are now raising money for food and fuel costs.

Top stuff. Check it out.

——

Cleetus McFarland:

We took Consuela home, but went right back to where we got her to run some missions. She ran good, helped people out, and we made it home safely. Not the video I ever thought it would be… wild.

Taking Our Helicopter Into North Carolina’s Disaster

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 2, 2024 2:38 pm

Apparently looters are running amok in North Carolina. Shoot the bastards.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 2, 2024 2:43 pm

…….They all dipped into their own pockets to get there.

Cassie of Sydney
October 2, 2024 2:51 pm

This is why I want Dutton to win…

Peter Dutton has made a pre-election pledge to “turn the tide of anti-Semitism” in Australia, portraying himself as a leader with “moral clarity and courage” who can restore social cohesion.

The Opposition Leader made the pitch months out from the federal election, which is due by May, declaring the Coalition “will not waver” in its support for Israel and Australians of Jewish faith.

“Since October 7, I’ve attended vigils and synagogue services. I’ve delivered speeches and written columns. I travelled to Israel where I spoke with survivors and the families of hostages; I visited a kibbutz and the site of the Nova music festival where innocent people were butchered; I watched footage of Hamas’s atrocities; and I met with Israel’s President Isaac Herzog, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Foreign Minister Israel Katz,” Mr Dutton said in his new year message to Jewish Australians. 

“I’ve done these things to show that I and the Coalition stand with our ally Israel and with Australians of Jewish faith. And we will not waver. In Australia, anti-Semitism is not only a threat to one segment of our community. It’s a threat to our social cohesion, to our democratic values, and to our way of life.

And remember, first they come for the Saturday people and then they come for the Sunday people.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2024 2:53 pm

Apparently looters are running amok in North Carolina.

Special persons of no describable description who have been unlucky in life with a desperate need for stuff.

Report: 8 Migrants Arrested for Looting in Flood-Ravaged Tennessee After Hurricane Helene (1 Oct)
Nothing to see here, move along.

bons
bons
October 2, 2024 3:34 pm

Something doesn’t add up in southern Lebanon and Gaza.

This is the most heavily surveiled land on the planet.

How then were they able to dig and fit out enormous tunnel complexes and high tech systems without being detected?

It is not just a question of how they hid the massive quantities of spoil. These things aren’t dug with a garden trowel, they require sophisticated equipment that is large, specialised and, you would imagine, be traceable from source.

Yet, the Israelis were not aware of their location.

These are the people who knew what phone number to call to blow up pagers.

It is strange.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 2, 2024 3:43 pm
Reply to  bons

Well Florence the tunneling machine for Snowy 2 hid in a small tunnel for many months without being detected moving – backwards or forwards.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2024 4:00 pm
Reply to  bons

Oh they knew chapter and verse where all this stuff is. While Hezbollah were content to not poke the lion the IDF was content to leave them be – since in any case the Hezbies were heavily engaged in the Syrian civil war.

As for the current situation it’s basic strategy: do not fight a two front war unless you have no choice.

Therefore the IDF spent care and attention on Hamas to sufficiently obliterate them whilst keeping Hezbollah at arms length. That worked, since the Hezbies basically did harassing fire and nothing else. Casualties on the northern border have been very light for the Israelis (if not for Hezbollah, who lost hundreds of fighters in air strikes).

Now Israel has sufficiently pruned Hamas that they no longer are a significant threat they are switching that care and attention to Hezbollah. Defeat in detail is how to do things, and for whatever reason the Iranian proxies are allowing that.

And now by poking the lion they’ve now lost their entire senior leadership. Paradise is running out of virgins.

All I can think is Iran have been stalling until they have built a nuclear deterrent. But since both of their massive ballistic missile attacks have been splatted ignominiously with barely a mussed Israeli toupee they are probably wondering how they could get a nuke through the missile defenses even when they can manage to mount one on a missile.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 2, 2024 5:44 pm

Israel have been playing a long game. They knew this was going to come one day. They knew about the Gaza tunnels and ammo, they knew about the Hezzies’ tunnels and ammo too, and they built up their military capability accordingly. They know Iran is the big funder and with its nuclear build up was the biggest threat.

They are now going after Iran. They always knew this three-stage war would be necessary and were just strategizing it time-wise.

I don’t like to think that Oct 7th was ‘allowed’ to happen, I’m not that cynical, but it was extremely suitable as a start to stage one and the moment was seized. I think the Israelis also knew enough about Islamic hostage-taking to know that Hamas wouldn’t readily return them all and that would provide reasons for further extension of hostilities, along with massive rockets firing on Israel from all three sources of terror which they knew would arrive sometime.

I don’t blame the Israelis, because this really is a situation where Israel MUST fight for its very existence, something they have always known. If Trump had won in 2020 things may have been different.

iggie
iggie
October 2, 2024 8:03 pm

The Israelis have the best intelligence unit in the world yet they (supposedly) knew nothing about what was going to happen on Oct 7th. Mmmm!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 2, 2024 3:46 pm

Toad , you have made Sir Waffle worth the turd, kbg, omgisfg, diligaf esq. Very sad.
The imminent potential greatness of Florence will be revealed at the appropriate time.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 2, 2024 3:52 pm

I’m thinking good limestone tunneling in S Lebanon.

Rabz
October 2, 2024 3:52 pm

Boring machines like Flo Turnbuckle are what make this country grate.

Rosie
Rosie
October 2, 2024 3:54 pm
Rosie
Rosie
October 2, 2024 3:56 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2024 4:27 pm
Reply to  Rosie

A good word is “and”.

calli
calli
October 2, 2024 4:59 pm
Reply to  Rosie

They don’t know much about prayer, do they?

Rosie
Rosie
October 2, 2024 4:01 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2024 4:29 pm
Reply to  Rosie

There will be no more Republican presidents.
Either the US will be a one party state or there will be a civil war.
The Dems cannot afford not to steal the coming election.
The only thing that is unknown is what happens after they do it.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 2, 2024 4:37 pm
Reply to  Rosie

Hahaha

Rosie
Rosie
October 2, 2024 4:16 pm

“During dozens of operations spanning approximately 200 nights of raids, the IDF entered Hezbollah positions along the border with Lebanon, including underground infrastructure, up to 3 kilometers (less than 2 miles) from the border”
Israel did know and have been dismantling them for the last year.
https://allisrael.com/revealed-idf-destroyed-700-hezbollah-targets-including-tunnels-in-commando-raids-over-the-past-year

Indolent
Indolent
October 2, 2024 4:18 pm

Is there a problem with X? The images don’t seem to be loading normally.

Indolent
Indolent
October 2, 2024 4:18 pm

@KimWexlerMAJD

During the Trump years, Antony Blinken didn’t just work at WestExec. He also worked for the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement, doing policy work that would eventually put the Biden State Department’s Refugee Admissions Program on steroids.

Indolent
Indolent
October 2, 2024 4:19 pm

@shellenberger

It may seem like what’s happening in Brazil has nothing to do with us, but it does. Brazil is a test case for the kind of censorship Kamala Harris wants to impose in the U.S. How do we know? Because we’ve caught her and Biden funding it.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 2, 2024 6:00 pm
Reply to  Indolent

Yep. So sayeth JD Vance.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 2, 2024 4:46 pm

The Israel response to the Iran attack ….from the Oz

If there were ever cause to target Iran’s nuclear facilities, this is it. Iran has shown that it might well use a bomb if it’s acquired, and Tehran would certainly use it as deterrent cover for conventional and terrorist attacks on Israel, Sunni Arab states and perhaps the U.S. Iran is closer than ever to a nuclear weapon and won’t stop itself. The question for American and Israeli leaders is: If not now, when?

Iran’s revolutionary regime has shown itself again to be a regional and global menace. It started this war via Hamas, which it funds, arms and trains to carry out massacres like the one on Oct. 7, and it escalated via Hezbollah, spreading war to Lebanon. Other proxies destabilise Iraq and Yemen, fire on Israeli and U.S. troops and block global shipping. It sends drones and missiles to Russia and rains ballistic missiles on Israel. All while seeking nukes.

Escalating this confrontation now is a gamble for Iran. With Hamas depleted and Hezbollah in disarray, Iran’s proxies can’t defend it the way they usually would. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei may be betting that Mr. Biden will shrink again from defending the civilised world from a dangerous regime. Will he be right?
The Wall St Journal

Interesting days ahead. Let’s see how the Sleaze and Pong handle this.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 2, 2024 4:47 pm

Moment loved-up newlyweds ‘forced to move their first dance into underground shelter in Jerusalem’ as Iran’s missiles rained down on Israel
Daily Mail.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 2, 2024 5:03 pm

A 19 year old is a “teen”!

A teen has been charged with displaying a terrorist organisation’s symbol after she allegedly marched with a Hezbollah flag around her shoulders at a protest in Sydney’s CBD over the weekend.

Police launched a public appeal on Wednesday to identify a woman depicted at a pro-Palestine and Hezbollah protest in the city’s centre on Sunday as part of an investigation into alleged displays of prohibited symbols.

Just hours later, Sarah Mouhanna handed herself in at Kogarah police station, where she was arrested for questioning.

The 19-year-old woman has now been charged with causing a public display of a prohibited terrorist organisation symbol after police allege she had a yellow Hezbollah flag wrapped around her shoulders while marching with protesters.

Hezbollah, which traditionally represents the Lebanese Shia community, has seats in Lebanon’s parliament and has political, social and military components.

Daily Tele

calli
calli
October 2, 2024 5:08 pm
Reply to  Top Ender

She wasn’t the only one. The cynic in me says she’s the sacrificial lamb though.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 2, 2024 6:50 pm
Reply to  calli

Making an object lesson of her that doesn’t do a damn thing.
I’d bet she’s declared a first offender and let off with a caution.
But the judiciary and the Parliamentary scum will be able to say “It’s all the law would allow”.

Tom
Tom
October 2, 2024 5:16 pm
Reply to  Top Ender

So the Minns regime is the first state government to move against the Australian terrorist electorate.

I fear the Australian Federal Police is in turmoil after federal Labor called on it to start arresting terrorist sympathisers.

After all. Both major parties were happy to use police to demonise political enemies squawking about civil rights during Kung Flu.

The AFP leadership must be confused and unwilling to abandon the thuggery it used with gay abandon and political approval in 2020-22.

Pogria
Pogria
October 2, 2024 5:24 pm
Reply to  Tom

Old women and pregnant ladies don’t fight back.
Lebs do drive by shootings of Cop Shops.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
October 2, 2024 6:19 pm
Reply to  Pogria

Bingo!

Salvatore - Iron Publican
October 2, 2024 6:18 pm
Reply to  Top Ender

Technically correct.
More than once in the workplace I’ve had occasion to remind a cocky 19yo that they’re a “teenager”

Vicki
Vicki
October 2, 2024 5:08 pm

Military strategist Edward Luttwak reckons that, rather than attack Iran’s nuclear facilities, Israel should bomb their port facilities from where they ship the product they completely depend upon – oil.

https://unherd.com/2024/10/israel-should-hit-iran-where-it-hurts/

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2024 5:58 pm
Reply to  Vicki

Why not both?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 2, 2024 5:59 pm
Reply to  Vicki

Nuclear first.

Then the ports.

Then the Mullahs.

The Iranians will do the rest.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 2, 2024 5:10 pm

As I go about my business, I’ve been following the UK reporting of events in the ME.

Aside from direct reporting of the missile strikes on Israel there has been the usual media strategic commentary, ranging from people with some inside knowledge to embarrassing twaddle from ‘Our ME Correspondent’.

Interestingly, there is an increasing focus on the long-term regional destabilisation strategy of the loathsome Iranian regime. And the public comments from government talking heads are starting to reflect this tone. So, presumably, the US Administration is pondering some sort of response that Team Starmer is going to have to sell.

Also interestingly, there is no commentary whatever about the abject failure of the UN in its implementation of Resolution 1701. Lots of anguished UN hand-wringing, but zero reflection on nearly 20 years of shuffling inaction while Tehran and Hezbollah gives the international community the forks.

(Yes, Wikipedia as reference. But this is a reasonable recount of events.)

Vicki
Vicki
October 2, 2024 5:16 pm
Reply to  Dr Faustus

Also interestingly, there is no commentary whatever about the abject failure of the UN in its implementation of Resolution 1701.

Totally agree. There has been a few scattered references in The Oz, but very little in view of the scandalous support of all of Israel’s enemies. The UNIL contingent that has apparently operated in the demilitarised zone since 2006 has done nothing to prevent the infiltration of the area by Hezbollah.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 2, 2024 6:18 pm
Reply to  Vicki

From the get go, UNIFIL declined to take any steps to disarm or control Hezbollah.

In theory UNIFIL will ‘provide support’ to the Lebanese military if requested – but oddly enough that hasn’t happened yet.

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2024 6:02 pm
Reply to  Dr Faustus

Interestingly, there is an increasing focus on the long-term regional destabilisation strategy of the loathsome Iranian regime. And the public comments from government talking heads are starting to reflect this tone. So, presumably, the US Administration is pondering some sort of response…

Which Wong will rush to condemn.

Oh, wait…

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Vicki
Vicki
October 2, 2024 5:10 pm

Me? I’d wipe out their nuclear facilities ….like yesterday.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 2, 2024 5:23 pm
Reply to  Vicki

I’m with you. They can’t be trusted with not turning a nuclear program into one to build a bomb.

Now’s the time, level the facilities, IRG, whats left of the air force and navy and then the oil facilities.

I filled all veh & petrol driven machines up today.

John H.
John H.
October 2, 2024 6:46 pm
Reply to  Vicki

Can’t be done. Nor their missile facilities. Situated so deep in the mountains Bunker Buster Bombs won’t do it although there are studies underway looking at precision BBBs on the same spot that might do the trick.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 2, 2024 5:18 pm

Afternoon all.

Tragic bus fire in Bangkok yesterday.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13914035/Tragedy-bodies-20-schoolchildren-three-teachers-bus-erupted-flames-Thailand.html

What I’ve been told through a Thai living in Oz. Bus run off compressed methane that isn’t liquified, I’ve seen these set ups on normally lorries in that part of the world but never a passenger bus. Anything to do with methane between 5 & 20% is explosive, one spark and the poor kids would never have had a chance.

Apparently though the bus was signed off to run off 3 tanks, there were 6 on board one behind the driver and 2 more in the cargo bins as well as the approved fuel cylinders.

Thai vehicles have to get an annual inspection but the process is fraught with corruption especially in rural regions like Isan. The bus did have a recent check and was signed off on.

I’d say the inspecting authority, bus owner and even the driver will be looking at jail time. Driver didn’t help himself by running away, apparently has gone down like a lead balloon in Thailand.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 2, 2024 5:31 pm

“And remember, first they come for the Saturday people and then they come for the Sunday people”

I am not religious so should be OK then. Right ?

Oh wait, how will the scumbag religion of peace people know I not religious? I am white but am considering identifying as camouflage in order to escape the bad guys when they come for the weekend people.

Seriously though am with the Jews and Israel all the way as this is a defining time in history.

Pogria
Pogria
October 2, 2024 5:34 pm

“Aussie”, mum and her four sprogs, crying for the Oz Government to bring them home from Beirut.
Absolutely no sympathy in the comments. Boo Yah.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13914643/Aussie-mum-four-kids-Lebanon.html

Speedbox
October 2, 2024 6:08 pm
Reply to  Pogria

Yes. If you’re going to a (potential) war zone, it seems bizarre that you wouldn’t plan on how to get out. For at least the past month, the govt have been advising people to leave and certainly in the past 1-2 weeks. Yet there appear to be thousands of Australians who have ignored those warnings and/or have thought that all will be well and their security was assured.

Mrs S and I have always had a ‘plan B’ to depart Kislovodsk (or Moscow) if ‘push came to shove’ over the past couple of years. We have no intention of being caught flat-footed and wondering what to do and have no confidence that the Aust govt would (or even could) assist in evacuation.

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2024 6:24 pm
Reply to  Speedbox

For at least the past month, the govt have been advising people to leave and certainly in the past 1-2 weeks. 

Since July, in fact.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
October 2, 2024 6:22 pm
Reply to  Pogria

“Aussie mum”
Without looking at the article I’ll guess she’s Shirley Jones, married to Philip Jones, kids are Mabel, Cyril, Arabelle & Charlotte, & they’re Anglican.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 2, 2024 6:56 pm
Reply to  Pogria

The woman won’t pay for it herself – there are still commercial flights and she doesn’t want to lose the FF points so she can go back.
Tough Titties, Mum.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2024 6:03 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

The terrain is pretty tough. Read the accounts of the 7th Div in Syria/Lebanon.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 2, 2024 6:41 pm
Reply to  Rosie

“Persia coming soon”

Once the Ayatollah’s put in his box.

All said with a swing of some female hair in his face.

Take that, hijab man.

bons
bons
October 2, 2024 5:56 pm

And in glouriously stupid news;

Albanese announced that he would be going to QLD to ‘help and support’ Labor’s campaign.

The lack of self awareness is eye watering. He obviously believes that he still has influence and credibility – in QLD!!!

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2024 6:00 pm

Is there a problem with X? The images don’t seem to be loading normally.

Roughly a quarter of the time I find the posts don’t load at all, even after pressing retry.

calli
calli
October 2, 2024 6:09 pm

Good. Credlin is onto it. Two tier policing.

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Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 2, 2024 7:00 pm
Reply to  calli

Do we know if those two arseholes are still employed by VicPol?
Or have they gotten raises and promotions?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 2, 2024 7:44 pm
Reply to  calli

How’s that begging for a pay rise going chaps?
Big groundswell of support from the locals?

Pogria
Pogria
October 2, 2024 6:16 pm

Saw the front page of the Australian. It has labelled sleazy as White Flag Albo.
Minor correction, it should be “White Feather Albo”.
Everywhere he goes from now on, he should be thrown white feathers.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2024 6:25 pm
Reply to  Pogria

Jihad Flag Albo would fit better.

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2024 6:32 pm
Reply to  Pogria

Weakness is never in season.

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2024 6:21 pm

Albanese announced that he would be going to QLD to ‘help and support’ Labor’s campaign.

Meanwhile…

Newspoll: Federal Labor hits historic low of 30% in NSW.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 2, 2024 7:00 pm
Reply to  Roger

Gillardian.

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2024 7:08 pm
Reply to  H B Bear

Governing with Greens support would be a bitter pill for Albo to swallow.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 2, 2024 7:04 pm
Reply to  Roger

Could Albo join Howard in losing his seat at a general election? As soon as it is a Liar v Green count and those Green preferences don’t come across all bets are off.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 2, 2024 7:10 pm
Reply to  H B Bear
Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 2, 2024 6:39 pm

Some moderate rain 30 Km SE to Barcy.
It’s going to pass us by, but some other lucky bugger will get it.

cohenite
October 2, 2024 6:39 pm

I’ve done this too. Collon Noir, gun expert extraordinaire, takes 2 anti gun fluffies out to the range and changes their little minds completely about guns:

Taking An Anti-Gun New Yorker & Brit Shooting For The First Time (youtube.com)

Pogria
Pogria
October 2, 2024 7:27 pm
Reply to  cohenite

I need one of those T-shirts!

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 2, 2024 6:46 pm

Barking Toad  October 2, 2024 4:46 pm

Escalating this confrontation now is a gamble for Iran. With Hamas depleted and Hezbollah in disarray, Iran’s proxies can’t defend it the way they usually would. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei may be betting that Mr. Biden will shrink again from defending the civilised world from a dangerous regime. Will he be right?

This one bomb isn’t the worst case scenario.
That belongs to the scenario where Iran makes 6 nukes and tells the West they have secreted them in the major cities of the Infidels.
I think the scum we have in charge of Christendom will fold and let Iran and Pakistan dictate terms to us that will make Genghis Khan look like a nice guy.

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2024 6:56 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

No.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2024 7:03 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

I use a VPN but have no technical problems with X.

Pogria
Pogria
October 2, 2024 7:23 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

I have had no trouble with X. I’m on Chrome at the moment thru Starlink.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 2, 2024 7:43 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Using Proton VPN + Brave + Win!!. No problems.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2024 7:06 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

They just did.

Tried to anyway.

An almost total faceplant from what I can see.

Time for Operation Praying Mantis 2.0.

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2024 7:15 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Even if they could, going by past efforts roughly 50% of their missiles would fail, just for starters. Then there are Israeli & US defence systems.

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dopey
dopey
October 2, 2024 7:24 pm
Reply to  Roger

Stop spoiling his dreams.

132andBush
132andBush
October 2, 2024 8:25 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

You assume they have the launch platforms to simultaneously put 1000 in the air. They don’t.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2024 8:59 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

As far as I’ve read only one launcher failed catastrophically, with casualties.

But also as far as I know none of the other 199 actually hit anything valuable either.

So there’s that.

John H.
John H.
October 2, 2024 9:40 pm

I’m sure they were hoping for more. I don’t remember all the details but it is not like you just roll the launchers out of the cave and let ’em rip. Trajectories have to be adjusted for meteorological issues, the ballistics can change mid-flight due to high altitude winds, and even small imperfections in the casings will disrupt the flight path. For example, the USN was worried about sub ballistic missile launches being put off course by waves hitting the missile as it left the water.

JC
JC
October 2, 2024 7:02 pm

They keep finding oil.

Barron’s

Guyana has the fastest-growing economy in the world because of massive offshore oil fields being developed by Exxon Mobil. Now its next-door neighbor Suriname could be on the verge of a burst of economic growth after two oil producers announced a $10.5 billion investment on Tuesday in oil and gas production there.

French energy giant TotalEnergies is the operator on the project, in a partnership with Houston oil company APA. Staatsolie, Suriname’s national oil company, is also eligible to take a 20% stake.

First production should come by 2028, and TotalEnergies expects the project to pump out 220,000 barrels of oil a day. That’s not in the league of Guyana. The Guyana project could eventually produce 2 million barrels a day, up from over 600,000 today, some analysts say.

2 million barrels represents around 2% of the world’s daily consumption.

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Black Ball
Black Ball
October 2, 2024 7:06 pm

SBS has something good to watch.
A recreational version of the Hoover Dam.
It remains the most audacious project.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 2, 2024 7:14 pm
Reply to  Black Ball

The amount of concrete was very Gaia unfriendly.

JC
JC
October 2, 2024 7:07 pm

In that scenario, why wouldn’t Iran return the favour and target their port, energy, nuclear, or other countervalue targets?

They did this time and were incredibly unsuccessful.

JC
JC
October 2, 2024 7:17 pm

Dover

Can I be honest with you, as opposed to dishonest. Towel heads are absolutely fcking useless in warring. The only thing they appear to be good at is murdering defenseless civilians.

Iran may end up having a mullahless government in the not too distant future. I’m not suggesting it’s odds on, but it’s probably at 30%.

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Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 2, 2024 7:48 pm
Reply to  JC

JC, it’s worth your while to read Armies of Sand which shows how the Arab Culture is the biggest stumbling block to effect modern armies..
On Amazon – it’s a bit of a culture shock when you realise it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 2, 2024 8:07 pm
Reply to  Winston Smith

IIRC, it was “Armies Of Sand” which cited the Eypttian soldiers, dug in in the Sinai desert, in 1967 – and every Friday evening, they saw the headlights of their officer’s cars, as their leadership was off to Cairo for the weekend.

Pogria
Pogria
October 2, 2024 7:35 pm

I don’t mind Garth Hamilton, BUT, he keeps saying WE, are not standing with Israel.
WE ARE, standing with Israel.
The Labor Government are NOT standing with Israel.

Annie
Annie
October 2, 2024 11:44 pm
Reply to  Pogria

I muttered about that when he said it. I stand with Israel.

cohenite
October 2, 2024 7:39 pm

Gawd blot is frustrating: Rowan Dean saying the fuking obvious that iran should be bombed to glass and blot starts tut tutting, won’t someone please think about the (iranian) kids who will be destroyed along with the fat mullahs.

Then the palli protests: Dean sensibly says they are not free speech but just intimidation and criminal. Blots starts tut tutting again about slippery slopes. It’s frustrating because the arrogant twot is right about a lot but he has these utter brain farts and seems to misunderstand the issues completely. The tragedy is he is the best on Sky (apart from Dean) which is the best of the Australian media cretins.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
October 2, 2024 8:00 pm
Reply to  cohenite

Bolt has form in this area.
When George Negus & Yumi Stynes slung off on live TV at Ben Roberts-Smith V.C., – Bolt supported them, on the basis that (paraphrased) “you’ve got to say something to fill the airtime

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 2, 2024 8:34 pm

Bolt lost his mojo after the verdict in the “Faux Aborigines” case. Seems he came very close to retiring after that.

calli
calli
October 2, 2024 8:49 pm
Reply to  cohenite

I don’t often shout at the TV, but when I do…well, it was tonight.

I wonder if he heard me telling him to shut up and listen to his guest? If he did, he ignored me. Getting to the point that I’ll ignore him and switch off.

Annie
Annie
October 2, 2024 11:46 pm
Reply to  calli

Ditto…I told him to shut up and let us hear what Rowan was still trying to say.

John H.
John H.
October 2, 2024 7:53 pm

JC

 October 2, 2024 7:02 pm

They keep finding oil.

Just a drop in the ocean compared to this:

Russia’s Oil Exploration in Antarctica threatens Science Diplomacy (forbes.com)

JC
JC
October 2, 2024 7:58 pm
Reply to  John H.

Wow!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2024 7:54 pm

Heh, Darwin Award.

Palestinian killed by own weapon during Tulkarm Camp celebration of Iranian attack (JPost, 2 Oct)

An 18-year-old Palestinian was reportedly killed by the explosion of his own weapon barrel during the celebrations that took place on Tuesday night in the Tulkarm Camp West Bank refugee camp, Army Radio reported on Wednesday.

The celebrations came after Iran launched its attack on Israel, sending approximately 180 missiles throughout the country.

I don’t think he’s getting his 72 virgins for that. Do try to clean, oil and maintain your firearms Pali kiddies.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 2, 2024 8:11 pm

Another Pali fails the “Tests Of Elementary Training…”

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 2, 2024 7:58 pm

Toying with the idea of watching the VP debate in full… I only heard slices of it, disjointed-
Was there a Moment?
like, an “Ask yourself this” moment?
A “There you go again”? moment?
“You’d be in jail”?
I really don’t know what he said at the end of that sentence. I don’t think he knows what he said either”?
A definitive zinger that might have gained Trump-Vance some votes?
I don’t think so, which is why I reckon it’s a dead rubber, ie a terribly lost opportunity for a smart young bloke to absolutely tear strips off a compromised, mendacious and malevolent opponent.
There was notably no “Moment” in Trump debating Harris neither.
I want a rematch! Death or Glory, no more of this anodyne safety vest NPC routine!

calli
calli
October 2, 2024 8:55 pm
Reply to  Wally Dalí

Oh, I think “sometimes I’m a knucklehead” as an excuse for blatant lying was pretty definitive.

Vance just had to stand there and smile.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 2, 2024 8:01 pm

Ean Higgins deemed brown bread.
https://www.skynews.com.au/business/media/veteran-australian-journalist-and-mh370-author-ean-higgins-confirmed-to-have-died-in-2020-nsw-coroners-court-finds/news-story/96f5861bd80aa5d8519e2210399f779a

‘Relentless in the pursuit of the truth’: Veteran Australian journalist and MH370 author Ean Higgins remembered after NSW Coroner’s Court ruling

Prominent Australian journalist and MH370 author Ean Higgins, who has been a missing person for several years, is confirmed to have died in 2020, a coronial inquest has heard.

Ripe for conspiracy theory. Did he correctly figure out who was to blame and then get extorted or killed? There’s just not enough info in the news report to say. No cause of death given.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
October 2, 2024 8:05 pm

Did Miriam Corowa (ABC) call her Managing Director David Anderson a “bungee waller”? I thought that was a New Zealand bridge jumper.

calli
calli
October 2, 2024 8:57 pm
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

That exchange looked like it was straight from a Cleese/Idle script.

cohenite
October 2, 2024 8:06 pm

Just watched JD shred tampon tim’s balls. Tampon is weird: he looks terminally insecure which possibly explains his stolen valour, done to prop up his image; otherwise he appears to be a typical commie sociopath with all sorts of compensatory mental spasms going on.

But for me the takeaway was the smug kunts officiating. They did their best to aid and abet tampon’s attacks on JD, which he swatted away. If Trump wins we should go through the legacy media with a dose of salts beginning with banning any government advertising on them. Then beef up the FCC’s regulatory powers by giving it a fact checking power with real teeth.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
October 2, 2024 8:06 pm

Justin Smith is useless and a waste of time on Chris Kenny’s show just as Jessica Tarlov is useless and a waste of time on Fox’s The Five.

JC
JC
October 2, 2024 8:14 pm

They fired 200 ballistics. No drones or cruise missiles this time. 181 reached Israel. So the failure rate is very low. Israeli and US AD couldn’t stop dozens of arrivals.

Approximately 20 got through the defensive perimeter.

They actually fired closer to 200.
19 were lost and 160 blown up in the sky.
Their success rate is 10%, which means their failure rate is 90%. I guess for a Mideast regime, 10% success rate is considered, pretty, pretty good.

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2024 8:38 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

They achieved squat, or we’d know about it by now. The lefty MSM hate Israel.

The Israelis saved on Arrows by not intercepting missiles projected to land in harmless places. That might mean airport runways since those can be repaired rapidly. Arrows are expensive.

JC
JC
October 2, 2024 8:28 pm

No they didn’t, and no, they weren’t. How ‘successful’ they were we are in no position to determine atm. Next few days will clarify.

Huh huh.

dover0beach

October 2, 2024 8:00 pm

Reply to  Roger

They fired 200 ballistics. No drones or cruise missiles this time. 181 reached Israel. So the failure rate is very low. Israeli and US AD couldn’t stop dozens of arrivals.

Didn’t you break your own rule?

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John H.
John H.
October 2, 2024 8:29 pm

JC

 October 2, 2024 8:14 pm

They fired 200 ballistics. No drones or cruise missiles this time. 181 reached Israel. So the failure rate is very low. Israeli and US AD couldn’t stop dozens of arrivals.

Approximately 20 got through the defensive perimeter.

They actually fired closer to 200.

19 were lost and 160 blown up in the sky.

Their success rate is 10%, which means their failure rate is 90%. I guess for a Mideast regime, 10% success rate is considered, pretty, pretty good.

That is how missile attacks should be conducted. When I saw the Hezbollah attacks I was surprised that they appeared to be only firing 10-12 at a time. Iran did it correctly, saturation attacks with the aim of overwhelming defenses. No-one expects the majority of missiles to strike heavily defended targets.

The problem for Israel and the USN is anti-missile missiles are very expensive. Iran can keep lobbing cheap stuff at Israel and unless they can maintain continual fighter patrols to use cheaper air to air aircraft missiles for interception they will run out of missiles and the costs will be enormous.

JC
JC
October 2, 2024 8:33 pm

Iran can keep lobbing cheap stuff at Israel and unless they can maintain continual fighter patrols to use cheaper air to air aircraft missiles for interception they will run out of missiles and the costs will be enormous.

Sure, but that assumes Iran will continue as a functioning state.

Rosie
Rosie
October 2, 2024 8:34 pm

Let’s hope Israel decides to do something other than allow Iran the right to one way traffic.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 3, 2024 2:58 am
Reply to  Rosie

I’d love to hear the shrieks from the Iranians if Israel were to chuck 180 missiles into Tehran CBD tomorrow.
Yes, of course Iran would be the ‘victim’ again.

JC
JC
October 2, 2024 8:41 pm

Here’s how I see it:
You’ve got Iran, the Hez and the missile-loving dancing Tootsies taking shots at Israel. Their game is not just to wreck Israel’s military and civilian setup, but to stack up as many dead Jews as they can.
Meanwhile, if Iran’s hell-bent on going nuclear, Israel may have to make a move soon. Otherwise, they’re staring down the barrel at their own annihilation.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2024 8:45 pm

Flee little Hezbies, flee.

IDF expands Lebanon ground invasion, rockets target Israel’s North (JPost live, 2 Oct)

Haha:

Israel bars UN secretary general from entering country (JPost, 2 Oct)

Go back to fighting climate change, dickhead.

Pogria
Pogria
October 2, 2024 11:51 pm

Guterres is a loathesome, repulsive toad.

John H.
John H.
October 2, 2024 8:52 pm

JC

 October 2, 2024 8:33 pm

Iran can keep lobbing cheap stuff at Israel and unless they can maintain continual fighter patrols to use cheaper air to air aircraft missiles for interception they will run out of missiles and the costs will be enormous.

Sure, but that assumes Iran will continue as a functioning state.

Iran has the same problem. It will also run out of missiles. It might even have to stop selling missiles to Russia. Iran won’t collapse through invasion, a nightmare scenario for anyone contemplating that. Rot it from within, cripple the economy, kill the religious leaders. It has huge underground storage facilities and no amount of missile or airborne attacks can damage that. I can’t see Iran collapsing. Wars are not won from the air alone. Despite years of ground attacks by the Saudis using highly capable ground attack fighters Yemen remains functional as a military force.

JC
JC
October 2, 2024 8:59 pm

How ‘successful’ they were we are in no position to determine atm. Next few days will clarify.

They fired 200 ballistics. No drones or cruise missiles this time. 181 reached Israel. So the failure rate is very low. Israeli and US AD couldn’t stop dozens of arrivals.

JC
JC
October 2, 2024 9:02 pm

John H

I hope it doesn’t happen praying it won’t get that far. If Israel considers its fate is existential, what choice do they have but use nuclear weapons?

Rosie
Rosie
October 2, 2024 9:08 pm
John H.
John H.
October 2, 2024 9:18 pm

JC

 October 2, 2024 9:02 pm

John H

I hope it doesn’t happen praying it won’t get that far. If Israel considers its fate is existential, what choice do they have but use nuclear weapons?

It won’t fire first. If it has to retaliate though even nukes won’t take out the underground facilities. Israel will know if a nuke has been fired at it because even if the missile is destroyed in flight it will leave a radiation signature(?). We don’t know how many warheads Iran has but I suspect it is fewer than Israel and the odds of a nuke getting through the shield is very low. That leaves Iran with the prospect of having attempted a nuclear attack, failed, and dealing with the repercussions. That would also create a dilemma with their pals in the Kremlin and any country aligned with Iran.

People need to stop thinking that their enemies are stupid. Remember the “drug addled neo-Nazis” some fools were proclaiming?I don’t think Iran will go nuclear. They’re not stupid, even this attack demonstrates that. Poor aiming but the same is happening with Russian missiles in Ukraine and I vaguely recall that in the Gulf and Iraq Wars they kept quiet about how many Tomahawks went astray.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 2, 2024 9:25 pm

Anyway, “Sliante” to all you mob.

Mme Zulu has been on the internet – she informs me that there is the whisky lounge of a hotel in Edinburgh, Scotland, where you can sample very rare single malts for THREE HUNDRED POUNDS a session.

To certain of my family, expecting a sizeable inheritance, bad luck, your eccentric forebear blew the lot in his lifetime. Serves you right for voting Labor/Greens.

Rosie
Rosie
October 2, 2024 9:28 pm

“Pretty small crater for a ballistic missile”
Sorry to disappoint.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 2, 2024 9:42 pm

Damn your ban: October 7 rally organisers to ignore court ordersAlexi Demetriadi
3 hours ago.
Updated 1 hours ago

170 comments
Pro-Palestine organisers have vowed to go ahead with a protest and vigil regardless of a court bid by NSW Police Commissioner Karen Webb to block the events as political leaders from the major parties voiced support for banning rallies on the one-year anniversary of Hamas’ October 7 terror attacks.
The NSW Supreme Court on Thursday will hear the state police’s argument to stop the two events – and to deem both as “unauthorised” – which would be contested in the same court by the organisers, the Palestinian Action Group.
On Wednesday, the group said regardless of the court’s decision, Sunday’s rally and Monday’s vigil would go ahead.
PAG organiser Josh Lees said: “We will be protesting on Sunday regardless of any court outcome as we have done for 51 weeks, in opposition to the ongoing genocide in Gaza and the war on Lebanon.”

Don’t New South Wales coppers have tear gas and truncheons, any more?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2024 9:46 pm

I expect plod to do their duty.

Ok, yes, who am I kidding?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 2, 2024 9:53 pm

That’s a curiously old fashioned point of view.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 3, 2024 3:13 am

Too frightened to use them.
But yes, the muzzies are throwing down the gauntlet – showing who runs the country.
Labor have worked hard to get to this point.
I hope they have fun with it.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 2, 2024 9:51 pm

Iran got a school they were aiming at.

Pretty small crater for a ballistic missile.

Looking the vision on early morning TV of some of the impacts, I was also struck by the modest craters. Being explosive, but not military minded, I wondered how many of these ballistic missiles Iran would have to launch to cause any significant damage.

Then I realised, it’s state terrorism, not really a military endeavour at all.

Rosie
Rosie
October 2, 2024 10:02 pm

“All of the missile impacts in Israeli airbases are deemed by the IDF as “ineffective,” meaning that no harm was caused to the continuous operations of the IAF.”
https://x.com/manniefabian/status/1841436923363017211?t=RbKnhHXVsmuCXqR9MtWAKw&s=19

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 2, 2024 10:05 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCgnbRWVvU8

In memory of the IMMORTAL Kris Kristofferson.

Helen
Helen
October 2, 2024 10:06 pm

A woman’s ability to “control her own body” isn’t just about abortion.

Funny, dat. A woman can control her own body to abort baby, but not resist the Health Czar’s Semashko direction to be vaccinated against her will.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 2, 2024 10:12 pm

You’re wasting your own, Zulu.
Take your 300 quid and stand the bar at the Ensign Ewart, Sandy Bell’s or- my favourite- the Sheep Heid. So old they’re not really sure when it established. Also, contains a sheep’s heid. And a skittle alley. Huge fun.
Or git outta E’burg and out west to the Old Forge.

Indolent
Indolent
October 2, 2024 10:26 pm
Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 3, 2024 3:18 am
Reply to  Indolent

“CNN Admits Fully Vaxxed Are Dying, Claims Shots Are Still ‘Effective’”

How stupid do they have to be to make a claim like that?
People are dying from the vaccine – so it’s effective? At what? Killing them?

Indolent
Indolent
October 2, 2024 10:30 pm
Indolent
Indolent
October 2, 2024 10:33 pm
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MatrixTransform
October 2, 2024 10:35 pm

Kristofferson and Cash … sunday morning coming down

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 2, 2024 10:48 pm

So, how many late nights, smokey bars, deflowered virgins,and monumental hangovers does that song represent?

MatrixTransform
October 2, 2024 10:50 pm

all the smokey bars

0 virgins

work on monday

Indolent
Indolent
October 2, 2024 10:40 pm
Rosie
Rosie
October 2, 2024 10:50 pm
calli
calli
October 3, 2024 6:59 am
Reply to  Rosie

That’s curious. No pagers or mobiles! 😀

Digger
Digger
October 2, 2024 11:10 pm
Reply to  cohenite

I agree. Israel’s very existence relies on it…

John H.
John H.
October 2, 2024 11:13 pm
Reply to  cohenite

Stating the obvious and the impossible. The author is too ignorant.

Natural Instinct
Natural Instinct
October 2, 2024 11:33 pm

I wonder if our prime minister will be attending something like this …
….
President Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America, will participate in an October 7th Remembrance Event on Monday, October 7, 2024, at 6:00PM EDT. Jewish community leaders will gather to honor the 1,200 lives lost after being taken hostage and killed on that fateful morning one year ago. The event will also remember the victims of antisemitic violence that has continued to afflict communities worldwide since that tragic day

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 3, 2024 4:21 am

Shocking Video Footage of Kentucky Sheriff Gunning Down Judge Played in Court — Horrifying Moment Unfolds After Sheriff Sees ‘Something’ on Judge’s Cellphone

You may remember this from a couple of weeks ago – the Sherriff sees something on the Judges phone and shoots him several times in the Judges rooms.
There are comments to the effect that the Judge had been molesting the Sheriffs daughter and the Sherriff was convinced the Judge was trying to kidnap the child and mother. All this from evidence on the Judges phone which is now being examined forensically.
Hmmm. Murky.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 3, 2024 4:32 am

Grid Apocalypse Hits Carolinas: 360 Substations Down, Power Restoration Could Take “Months”

“Distribution transformers are a bedrock component of our energy infrastructure,” National Renewable Energy Laboratory researcher Killian McKenna said, who was recently quoted by PV Magazine

McKenna pointed out, “But utilities needing to add or replace them are currently facing high prices and long wait times due to supply chain shortages. This has the potential to affect energy accessibility, reliability, affordability—everything.”

Other reasons for the transformer shortages besides power grid upgrades include raw material sourcing problems, pandemic-related supply chain woes and backlogs, labor constraints, shipping issues, and geopolitical tensions. 

It appears the US is struggling to fix its system and the last 20 years of hollowing out the spares infrastructure is coming home to roost.
“How do you go bankrupt? Slowly at first then all in a rush.”.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 3, 2024 4:38 am

Posted on October 1, 2024 from PowerLine.
A Question Too Tough For KamalaTo be fair, pretty much every question is too tough for Kamala. But this one is a real softball:

WATCH Kamala Harris STRUGGLE to answer: “Should folks stand for the National Anthem?”

— Resist the Mainstream (@ResisttheMS) 

Of course. I rise for the anthem, I kneel before God, And I stand to piss.

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Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 3, 2024 4:46 am

…aand a little something from the Babylon Bee:

 After Minnesota Governor and U.S. Vice Presidential candidate Tim Walz claimed he was friends with them in Tuesday night’s debate, school shooters across the nation were quick to distance themselves from “that total weirdo.”

A spokesperson for the National Association of School Shooters clarified that “we didn’t really know him all that well” and “our moms just made us hang out with him and invite him to our birthday parties sometimes.”

Just to let you all know that the Babylon Bee is a satirical site – and Tim Walz is a dickhead.
There.
I said it out loud.
🙂

Vicki
Vicki
October 3, 2024 7:14 am

I noticed that last night Cats were discussing whether Israel would attack Iran’s nuclear facilities. OS pundits are suggesting that Israel will more likely take out their port facilities which export their only serious product – oil.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 3, 2024 8:45 am
Reply to  Vicki

Vicki, probably a retrograde move.
Oil shortage will raise the price and hurt the West, and put Israel offside with the Industrialised World. Not hitting Kharg Island will get the Iranians to dump oil and drive the price down.
Hitting Irans Nuclear program will benefit everyone in the world except Iran.

(I’d not put it past the Norks or China to ‘lend’ them one either.)

bons
bons
October 3, 2024 8:31 am

I have been given an automatic vacuum by one of the daughters – sheesh.

It appears to get around ok, or it would if the bloody kelpie would stop trying to herd it and corral it into corners. When all else fails it jumps all over it trying to stop it.

As much as I think it to be hilarious, the dog will never give up so the machine is headed for the storage shed between daughter visits.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 3, 2024 9:41 am
Reply to  bons

No, Bons. Put derg in the shed for the duration of the clean.

Lateral thinking. Derg doesn’t run the place, does he?

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 3, 2024 10:32 am

Stuff most people don’t know about Kris Kristofferson:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris_Kristofferson

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
October 4, 2024 12:34 pm

Another of my favourites in the Oz. For all Cats and Kittehs.

Re-elected Albanese: Champion of truth (under government regulation)
The Mocker

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese gives his first press conference following the 2025 election and his return from Government House …

Good morning, everyone. Can I begin by saying how proud I am to stand before you as the first prime minister since John Howard to serve a full term and be returned as the leader of this great nation. And to the Australian people, thank you for your continued faith in me and my government.

But I will not pretend this has been an easy campaign for Labor. We have retained government, but at a cost. The Noalition’s lies, negativity and scare campaigns were brutally effective. They have increased their parliamentary numbers, but only by deceiving voters. 

Make no mistake: dishonesty is in their DNA. Today they told another outright lie in claiming I told voters I would never do a deal with the Greens in the event of a hung parliament. But I gave no such undertaking. And consistent with my ethos of working to bring Australians together, I look forward to Greens leader Adam Bandt joining us in cabinet. 
During the campaign I met with and spoke to many Australians. And all of them, without exception, told me the times are such they find it impossible to separate truth and lies. “Albo,” they said, “you are doing a fantastic job, but we need your government to do more to protect us against disinformation”. 

Disinformation is a danger to democracy. It is the second-biggest threat to social cohesion after Islamophobia. Those who disseminate it are well-versed in deception, and many ordinary Australians do not have the skills to navigate the complexities of fast flowing information. That is why my government introduced the draft Combatting Misinformation and Disinformation Bill last year.

Much has been said about this bill, but my friend and colleague, Treasurer Jim Chalmers, said it best during an interview last year. He said, and I quote, “The steps that we are taking when it comes to misinformation and disinformation are about protecting and cherishing and advancing free speech, not censoring it”.

Jim was spot on. The only way to advance and cherish free speech is if my government controls, regulates, and removes information on digital platforms as we see fit. This is not censorship. I do not apologise for advancing free speech or for protecting Australians. 

Not surprisingly, the purveyors of disinformation fought furiously against this bill. They falsely claimed it would create a “chilling effect” on free speech. They said giving Communications Minister Michelle Rowland the power to order the Australian Communications and Media Authority to investigate a social media platform was “draconian”. Sadly, good does not always prevail over evil, and our bill was defeated.

Like many Labor politicians, I know too well what it is like to be the victim of disinformation. So many examples come to mind, all of which were intended to portray me as dishonest, evasive, and untrustworthy. I had allegedly promised to deliver the Morrison government’s stage three tax cuts in full. I had supposedly backed this up by saying, “My word is my bond”.

I had apparently dismissed as “complete nonsense” reports that I would appoint Kevin Rudd as ambassador to the US if Labor won. I had supposedly said I would not alter tax provisions for superannuation. But I never said any of these things. Next thing you know they will claim I promised I would not review negative gearing!

I want to talk more about the disinformation bill and the reason it was defeated. As you know we, in good faith, made the decision to exempt mainstream media from its application. That was because we in Labor believe, and we still do, that a free press is the cornerstone of a free society. 
The media exercises great power, and with that power comes responsibility. But as we have seen during the last three years, it sometimes falls short of that responsibility. It amplifies and perpetuates the disinformation of others. And increasingly, so-called journalists and commentators create disinformation. This situation cannot be allowed to continue.
 
We witnessed this during the voice referendum. Certain sections of the media – I’m not going to name which one – took a partisan stance, rather than observing their ethical obligation to report the facts. They poisoned the public mind. They lied in claiming I had refused to provide full details on how the voice would operate. They ridiculed my assurances this proposal was “just good manners”. They disputed my claims this was merely about recognising Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders in the constitution. 
As I said, I am not going to single out any particular outlet. But you know who they are. Like I said last year, “There are some journalists who [are] more stenographers, in particular in the right-wing media, than actual journalists”. They are a “cheer squad” for Opposition Leader Peter Dutton, I said. They intentionally blur news with opinion.

It is the role of the media to report facts and offer informed and fair commentary. But a noisy minority do not do this. They slander my government in alleging our response to the Middle East conflict is dictated by the demographics of Western Sydney seats. They contest the fact that renewables are the cheapest form of energy. They falsely claim that going nuclear will ensure reliable energy and net-zero emissions. They even ridicule Labor’s protests that nuclear reactors will result in three-eyed fish.
 
My government will ensure this pretend journalism no longer deceives the public. Accordingly, our revised disinformation bill will now apply to the media. For those journalists and commentators who take exception, I say you have nothing to fear if you report the truth. Just tell it straight and be upfront, like I always do. And for the Opposition, I say your vote on this issue will reveal to the world if you are for or against disinformation. It is as simple as that.

Lastly, I just want to mention misinformation. It is as insidious as disinformation. As Dr Chalmers said last year, misinformation can damage the economy, and it is incumbent on us to be alert to this. I want everyone to think carefully about what they say and write, particularly when it is detrimental to good government. 
Again, no names, but a certain RBA governor falsely claimed last year that government spending was prolonging high interest rates.

That is all I have to say about our disinformation bill. Remember, Labor stands for truthfulness. We stand for integrity. We stand for honesty. I am Labor to the core. You have no need to ask, ‘What does Albanese stand for’, because you already know. 

Journalist: It stands for “Another Longwinded Bullshit-Artist and a Notoriously Erratic and Spineless Embarrassment”? 

Albanese: That’s – that’s disinformation! Michelle! Michelle!

  1. Apologies if already posted. https://oversight.house.gov/release/breaking-hhs-formally-debars-ecohealth-alliance-dr-peter-daszak-after-covid-select-reveals-pandemic-era-wrongdoing/ I would have thought the Biden administration formally banning Daszak would have been bigger news.

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