Open Thread – Weekend 2 Nov 2024


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vr
vr
November 3, 2024 11:46 am

If you want a fix, then all of the above needs to be dealt with and it starts with the judiciary in my opinion. Good luck.

Why not make the judiciary (bureaucracy) accountable for their actions? For example, if a judge repeatedly lets off an offender because in their opinion they are redeemable and they go on to commit a crime, then the victim ought to be able to sue the judge. Obviously, this is a simplified example and consequences need to be considered.

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Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 3, 2024 11:49 am

Aspiring rapper news (the Hun):

A man shot and killed on a city street after a Halloween rave can be identified as a young budding rapper as the gunman remains on the run.

Pal Bidong, who goes by the rap name “Peezy”, was gunned down on Langford St in North Melbourne about 3.15am on Saturday morning.

The victim, believed to be aged in his early 20s, was found with at least one gunshot wound but died at the scene.

‘Peezy’. Righto.

It is believed that to identify the most likely suspects for Peezy’s demise, detectives are investigating the whereabouts of all George Thorogood and the Destroyers fans in Melbourne.

Roger
Roger
November 3, 2024 11:49 am

Is it just a coincidence or was this the deep state blob at work? 

I have an account with archive.org that I use for research. They not only run the way back machine but also provide a virtual library of texts online which is invaluable.
A lot of books became unavailable for borrowing in early October and the message from the organisation was that they were being sued by publishers for copyright breaches.
These texts were nothing to do with politics. However, given the significance of the organisation’s work for the inquiring citizen, their plight does raise a few questions.

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Top Ender
Top Ender
November 3, 2024 11:58 am

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Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
November 3, 2024 11:59 am

Top o’t’page to ye.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
November 3, 2024 11:59 am

Developing:

Yes. And it’s interesting to watch the developments.

The headlines in the fringe media make very clear that Mossad is “implicated” in spying on Giorgia Meloni and colleagues, looking for blackmail dirt. Shirley an international scandal that drags Israel into further disrepute and odium:

Mossad behind Italian ‘blackmail’ spying scandal
Israel’s Mossad implicated in espionage scandal in Italy
Why is Israel Spying on Italy?
A very quick review of what seems to be the source material shows us that in February 2023, ‘two men identified by the Carabinieri as Israeli agents’ visited the offices of Equalise – the private investigators actually accused of the spying.

The Israelis were reported to be trying to purchase information on the Wagner Group and offering reports on illegal Iranian gas sales (which might have been useful to ENI).

But not spying on Ms Meloni and friends.

But, hey. Mossad.
They were there…

Haters gotta hate.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 3, 2024 11:59 am

Cat POTUS poll

Trump to win

484 – Bar Beach Swimmer
P – 367
357 – AnotherRanga
347 – Vicki
330 – Perfidious Albino
325 – Long Time Lurker
321 – Helen
320 – Cohenite
319 – Megan
317 – mizaris
313 – Chris
312 – Zippster, thefrollickingmole
310 – Beertruk
308 – Harlequin Decline, hzhousewife
307 – chrisl
306 – Digger
305 – Indolent
304 – Bill P
302 – Makka
300 – Tekweni, Lizzie
299 – Wivenhoe
296 – mem
295 – Barking Toad
292 – Nelson_Kidd-Players
290 – Top Ender*
288 – Mak Siccar
287 – Carpe Jugulum
286 – Rosie
285 – Knuckle Dragger
281– Roger
280 – calli
279 – Bruce in WA, Siltstone
278 – Winston Smith
275 – pete m
273 – Petros
272 – Delta A
271 – Vagabond
270 – Colonel Crispin Berka
*not in comp. so will move progressively right if others want this spot

?Harris to win

320 – JC
315 – alwaysright
300 – Lawgi Dawes-Hall
298 – Monty
285 – Rafiki
280 – Barry
272 – Davey Boy

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
November 3, 2024 12:02 pm

Should be excruciating. From the Oz.

Vice President Kamala Harris is expected to make an appearance on Saturday Night Live with three days to go before the election, according to a person familiar with the planning.

Harris, who departed from Charlotte, N.C., on Saturday evening, was supposed to head to Detroit. But Air Force Two landed instead in New York City for an unannounced stop. Her campaign declined to explain the change of plans. The New York Post earlier reported Harris would appear on the show.

The Wall Street Journal

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 3, 2024 12:04 pm

Breaker Morant’s rule for me to Trump.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 3, 2024 12:05 pm

I hope it works!

Blue Origin hauls massive New Glenn 1st stage to launch site with hot fire up next (Phys.org, 2 Nov)

Blue Origin hauled the immense first stage booster for its upcoming debut launch of its New Glenn rocket to Cape Canaveral Space Force Station on October 30th. … Jeff Bezos’ rocket company is still aiming for a November launch of the heavy-lift rocket, which, when combined with the second stage and fairing, would be more than 320 feet tall. The exact date has not been announced, although Port Canaveral officials alluded to a Nov. 30 target date in a recent port commission meeting. …

Similar to SpaceX Falcon 9 boosters, New Glenn boosters aim for a recovery downrange in the Atlantic on Blue Origin’s landing vessel named Jacklyn, which is named after Bezos’ mother. New Glenn boosters are designed for 25 flights.

I prefer Elon’s eccentric names for his drone landing ships but all power to Jeff’s mum’s vessel.

(The recently tested Starship/Superheavy by comparison is 397 feet tall with four times the power of New Glenn. So Musk is still well ahead.)

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
November 3, 2024 12:07 pm

Some big money has just now bet against Trump. His probability dropped 3.3% points in one hour this morning.
https://electionbettingodds.com/President2024.html
Surely a sign of a small number of big transactions.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 3, 2024 12:11 pm

Regarding the local businessman, facing the court over the mythical “rainbow serpent” – one of the ouens notes, dryly, that, in Australia, in the twenty first century – an era of mobile phones, computers and the internet, this man is facing nine months in gaol and the loss of his business licence, over the issue of a mythical, rainbow serpent.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 3, 2024 12:16 pm

List of things I need to do today:

  1. Top dress garden vegie plot with 3.5 meters of loam,
  2. Transplant tomato and rockmelon into garden bed.
  3. Move bags of potting mix from Patrol to garden area.
  4. Inflate wheelbarrow tyre – it’s a bit low, but only on the bottom.
  5. Find the tyre pump.

Seeing that I can’t find the tyre pump, even though I have a fair idea where it is, and everything else depends on having a wheelbarrow in a usable condition, I may just have a nap instead.

Roger
Roger
November 3, 2024 12:30 pm

Thanks for running this, TE.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 3, 2024 12:33 pm

Correction to my last post.

Mixed up Phillip & Margaret McMurdo. Opinion of her doesn’t change, even if she didn’t agree with Carmody meeting Hetty (Which I concede he should have known better for optics).

I had an extended family member who was one of the plain clothes who bought Cowan down. Absolutely contemptable human being from what I found out at his funeral.

Gilas
Gilas
November 3, 2024 12:35 pm

Top Ender

November 3, 2024 11:59 am

Cat POTUS poll

Er… Dear TE,

As posted earlier today, and still hoping to be 100% wrong, please put me down for Harris at 273.

Thank you

Roger
Roger
November 3, 2024 12:35 pm

US private sector jobs fell in October in the worst employment report since 2020, continuing a downward trend existent since 2022.

Little wonder Kamala isn’t running on her record.

“Joy!”

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Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
November 3, 2024 12:37 pm

H B Bear

November 3, 2024 12:17 pm

The topless bar scene was bad. Even as a 20yo youth I used to dread picking up a six pack from the local for the weekend.

So many questions there:

What was it about the topless bar that was bad for a 20-year old?

Why did you have to force yourself to go into a bad topless bar to buy carry-outs?

In what possible world does a six-pack do for a weekend?

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 3, 2024 12:40 pm

Ricky Gervais over at Michael Smith News has advice on the US election:

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/

John
John
November 3, 2024 12:44 pm

407 to Mr Trump

wivenhoe
wivenhoe
November 3, 2024 12:46 pm

s a 20 year old would not get me to lunch time.

Indolent
Indolent
November 3, 2024 1:02 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 3, 2024 1:03 pm

Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.

Australia bids farewell as world’s largest captive croc, Cassius, dies at 110 (2 Nov)

A 5.48 metre (18 ft) Australian crocodile that held the world record as the largest crocodile in captivity has died, a wildlife sanctuary said on Saturday. He was thought to be more than 110 years old.

Cassius, weighing in at more than one ton, had been in declining health since Oct. 15, Marineland Melanesia Crocodile Habitat said on Facebook.

“He was very old and believed to be living beyond the years of a wild Croc,” according to a post by the organisation, based on Green Island near the Queensland tourist town of Cairns.

Over the ton in weight and age. Great innings! Well done that batsreptile.

Indolent
Indolent
November 3, 2024 1:05 pm
zimlurog
zimlurog
November 3, 2024 1:05 pm

Hi TE, sorry I put my Election tip in one of the nested comments – then realized it was forever ago! Could you please pencil me in for Trump 301. Thanks.

Indolent
Indolent
November 3, 2024 1:07 pm

@GrrrGraphics

“Peanut the Squirrel…You shall be avenged!”
On Nov 5th!
Vote Trump don’t let Peanut die in vain!
Ben Garrison Cartoon
Feel free to share this image far and wide!!
RIP Peanut!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 3, 2024 1:09 pm

Boys now guilty until proven innocent: Parents speak out after sexual assault caseNewcastle couple Karen and Phil Milner say their family has been to hell and back after their son was labelled a predator and they funded his legal defence to prove he was innocent of sexual assault and choking charges.
Cydonee MardonInvestigations Editor

@cydmardon

4 min read
November 3, 2024 – 5:00AM
The Sunday Telegraph

A Newcastle couple forced to sell their home to help their son fight sexual assault and choking charges said the “pendulum has swung too far” in favour of alleged victims and lives of innocent young men are being ruined.
Speaking exclusively to the Sunday Telegraph, Jack Milner’s parents Phil and Karen said they were overcome with relief this week when after enduring a 5-day trial a jury took just under 90 minutes to find their son not guilty of assaulting a woman in an alleyway near a Newcastle bar in November 2022.
Mrs Milner spoke about their two years of hell, having to support their devastated son through the anguish of being charged, labelled a predator, and their family’s reputation in tatters because of intense publicity about the case. Mrs Milner said she shuddered at the thought of how many other young innocent men were locked up in jail because they didn’t have the resources and support to defend themselves.
“We pretty much sacrificed everything. We would give our right arm for our children but if we didn’t have a house to sell to support our son’s defence then he would be languishing in jail waiting for his trial,” Karen said
“The evidence was so overwhelming in support of his innocence, we just don’t understand how we could have ended up here in the first place.”
“If we could make a difference, by letting people going through what we have gone through know, they are not alone, then that’s something positive that can come out of all the heartbreak we’ve had.”
The jury heard a 22 year old woman approached 19-year-old Mr Milner, an apprentice mechanic, and asked to borrow his shirt after she was denied entry to the Finnegans nightclub in Darby Street.
When cross examining the woman last week, defence barrister Margaret Cunneen SC said the woman was the one who initiated contact with her client.
“You grabbed him, hugged him, kissed him on the mouth,” she put to the woman.
“No,” she replied. “I wasn’t talking to him, he was speaking to me.”
Ms Cunneen said there was no rape and the woman had “made up this false complaint against Mr Milner”, fearing she would be in trouble for trespassing.

Indolent
Indolent
November 3, 2024 1:10 pm

18 months for “contempt of court”. I too have total contempt for that court.

Tommy Robinson: What the judge said about his risk in prison

bons
bons
November 3, 2024 1:14 pm

Sadly it has proven to be untrue that Trump has persuaded Nayib Bukele to run the Trump DOJ.

Shame that. A Bukele prison would fit comfortably in Washington’s Mall.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 3, 2024 1:25 pm

I really despise ‘the law’ and lawyers. Whether you are wrongfully imprisoned or not depends on how much money you can access. What a fuking joke. Like I say, a hangover from 1066.

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Indolent
Indolent
November 3, 2024 1:28 pm

Benny Johnson. This has well over half a million views in 5 hours.

Internet Goes NUCLEAR After Feds Seize, MURDER Orphan Pet Squirrel | Trump, RFK, Elon Pledge REVENGE

cohenite
November 3, 2024 1:33 pm

Cydonee MardonInvestigations Editor
@cydmardon
4 min read
November 3, 2024 – 5:00AM
The Sunday Telegraph
A Newcastle couple forced to sell their home to help their son fight sexual assault and choking charges said the “pendulum has swung too far” in favour of alleged victims and lives of innocent young men are being ruined.

They now have to sue the woman and seek exemplary costs against the wallopers.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 3, 2024 1:33 pm

I hate the “justice” system, too.
In fact, I’m actively looking for a start-up which will work to load the common law casebook into AI, and create a super-low-cost, high speed, high accuracy legal advice for the self-representing and take end the horsehair leeches of qualified privilege sucking blood, tears, money and time from the common man whom they presume to serve.

Vicki
Vicki
November 3, 2024 1:36 pm

Some important books are appearing:

“Fighting Goliath” by Prof. Norman Fenton

This just released book recounts Fenton’s efforts to counter the misinformation and propaganda of government bodies in respect to the Covid pandemic. In spite of his very high academic & professional standing, Fenton was opposed in every possible way from publicising his understanding of the threat of Covid.

“The Exhausted Brain” & “The Indocrinated Brain” by Dr. Michael Nehrs

The first book explains the effect of various stressors on the neurogenesis of the hippocampus. Modern life, and particularly the stress of the Covid years, has placed exceptional stress on the hippocampus which governs various aspects of memory. I am always interested in the hippocampus, since years ago I suffered an incident of Transient Global Amnesia, famously caused by exceptional stress. In my case, it was induced by the stress of the Great Drought of 2017/8& combined with an incident when daughter required me to given a lesson to grandson on the causes of the Vietnam War! It was indeed transient – about 3 hours.

“The Indoctrinated Brain” explains how governments, the WHO and the medical bureaucracies were able to convince so many people to accept a completely untested and novel vaccine.

“The End of Everything” by Victor Davis Hanson

This incredible classically trained historian uses his amazing knowledge of our history to explain the current era in which many western nations appear to be on a suicide mission.

“Hippocracy” by Prof. Ian Harris

Prof Harris, an orthopaedic surgeon & lecturer at the UNSW, presents a controversial theory that most spinal surgery does not address the cause of back pain. When some spinal surgery appears to work, it is mostly due to the placebo effect. (See also “Surgery: the Ultimate Placebo”)

Indolent
Indolent
November 3, 2024 1:42 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 3, 2024 1:44 pm

A Newcastle couple forced to sell their home to help their son fight sexual assault and choking charges said the “pendulum has swung too far” in favour of alleged victims and lives of innocent young men are being ruined

Without knowing any details pertaining to who actually authorised this to go to trial, I have no doubt this is just the latest in a long conga line of sexual assault ‘prosecutions’ not recommended by the jacks in NSW, but enthusiastically taken up and run with by the NSW DPP.

There was a recent and very public punch-on (and on this very subject) between the judiciary there and the (chick) DPP boss, who from memory is a mutton-dressed-as-lamb me-tooer with a face like a bulldog’s arse.

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NFA
NFA
November 3, 2024 1:44 pm
Vicki
Vicki
November 3, 2024 1:44 pm

List of things I need to do today:

Top dress garden vegie plot with 3.5 meters of loam,Transplant tomato and rockmelon into garden bed.Move bags of potting mix from Patrol to garden area.Inflate wheelbarrow tyre – it’s a bit low, but only on the bottom.Find the tyre pump.
Winston, I hate the veggie garden! Even on a farm, I reckon that this is the hardest area of physical work. Even with a “cultivator” machine, hoeing is damn hard work. The weeds seem to proliferate at twice the rate in a vegetative patch than they do in an open paddock!

I have been toying with the idea of putting up temporary fences across it and letting in the chooks to weed unplanted areas for me. But would take too long to be effective, I think. And they would kill to get into the spinach !

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Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 3, 2024 1:46 pm

And yes.

That lying mole needs to be sued by the young apprentice and his parents, to ensure she spends the rest of her life in a houso walk-up complex selling her rapidly-expanding arse for meth and durries.

calli
calli
November 3, 2024 1:47 pm

They’re eating the dogs.
They’re eating the cats.

They’re killing the pet squirrels of the people who live there…

Who needs hungry Haitians when you have ravenous bureaucrats?

calli
calli
November 3, 2024 1:52 pm

Margaret Cunneen. Well done.

Indolent
Indolent
November 3, 2024 1:54 pm
Indolent
Indolent
November 3, 2024 1:56 pm
Pete of Perth
Pete of Perth
November 3, 2024 1:57 pm

How will Trump top the garbo truck troll with a squirrel?

Indolent
Indolent
November 3, 2024 1:59 pm
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John H.
John H.
November 3, 2024 2:09 pm

How Russia’s Troubles in Kursk Brought North Korea into the War

In October Russia’s Central Bank upped interest rate to 21%, the highest since 2013.

Tom
Tom
November 3, 2024 2:17 pm

Top Ender,

I’m a hopeless punter, so I have been resisting the embarrassment of trying to predict the outcome of the American presidential election.

But I quite like Farmer Gez citing Breaker Morant’s preference for sorting out his enemies with a high-powered rifle.

So put me down for Donald Trump to win with 303 electoral college votes.

calli
calli
November 3, 2024 2:19 pm

On Moresby…when I was in PNG in the mid 80’s it was unsafe. No one lived in unprotected premises, all behind tall fences, barbed wire, guards and dogs. Preferably in a compound with other ex-pats.

It has only become worse.

I pity women and children there. They are preyed upon by their “men” in horrific ways. You can only do so much for them – provide a safe place to sleep at least during the week, keep their bank book in a safe spot, offer to help with education. All the “paternalistic” things that are so derided by the ignorant or the opportunistic. It’s a savage, terrible place, punctuated by little communities of light, usually satellites of churches and Christian missions.

There is great natural beauty and fertile abundance. Vast mineral wealth. The people are poor and the politicians and exploiters are rich. The politicians especially love to come “south” and live it up, and also make use of educational facilities for their children. Like Albo, they have a sweet tooth for the pointy end.

alwaysright
alwaysright
November 3, 2024 2:26 pm

Do the bookies have an exclusion clause for result rigging or is it for a win no matter how?

JC
JC
November 3, 2024 2:28 pm

LOL

@DavidSachs

Wake me up when Kamala gets a celebrity endorsement from someone who hasn’t been to a Diddy party or Epstein Island.

bons
bons
November 3, 2024 2:39 pm

Yep, as the saying goes, PNG is a mountain of gold floating in an ocean of oil run by cannibals.

Arky
November 3, 2024 2:39 pm

The worm has turned.
The USAs best days are in front of her.
Trump will win. Easily.
How many even on the conservative side didn’t understand Trump 1.1?
Who were reluctant in support of Trump version 2.0?
But now understand, and get it and embrace Trump V3 and are having fun?
Energy + the threat of tariffs + gut the state + technology + freedom = a beautiful future.
And the other Western democracies are going to have to swing along.
The 2030s are going to be great.

eb
eb
November 3, 2024 2:41 pm

Hi Top Ender,
Please put me down for 318 for the Trumpster.
I’m hoping the cheating will be overwhelmed!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 3, 2024 2:47 pm

I gather Tim Walz has said that Elon Musk is gay.

He might need to resort to this strategy.

Crossie
Crossie
November 3, 2024 3:01 pm

“I had surgery on my leg and, yep, I asked for an upgrade,” Mr Clare told Sky News. “And I was assisted by Qantas.

As JD Vance said to his interviewer recently “Do you hear yourself speak?” How can Clare imagine that’s it’s OK for him to ask for personal favours from an airline that is not available to an ordinary taxpayer of the same health status but fewer financial or political advantages? These people even puff themselves up as being champions of equality yet it would never occur to them to practice it.

calli
calli
November 3, 2024 3:07 pm

H B Bear

November 3, 2024 12:17 pm

The topless bar scene was bad. Even as a 20yo youth I used to dread picking up a six pack from the local for the weekend.

Headlines next day…

Pantsless bear caught drinking in topless bar

Roger
Roger
November 3, 2024 3:08 pm

“I had surgery on my leg and, yep, I asked for an upgrade,” Mr Clare told Sky News. “And I was assisted by Qantas.”

He solicited an upgrade, which, no matter the circumstances, contravenes the PM’s code of ministerial conduct.

If that code means anything (yes, I know) Clare should resign.

At least he’d be setting an example for the PM to follow.

Cassie of Sydney
November 3, 2024 3:12 pm

A Newcastle couple forced to sell their home to help their son fight sexual assault and choking charges said the “pendulum has swung too far” in favour of alleged victims and lives of innocent young men are being ruined.

It’s worse than that, males are now automatically judged to be guilty until proven innocent

Margaret Cunneen, like Bettina Arndt, does God’s work.

I wish to remind people here that the current Director of Public Prosecutions here in NSW is a ghastly and mediocre woman by the name of Sally Dowling. Dowling is quite possibly the worst person to ever hold the position of head of the DPP which is no doubt why she was appointed to the role by that mediocre Liberal, Mark Speakman, when he was AG.

You can always hand it to an incompetent Liberal government to f*ck things up.

calli
calli
November 3, 2024 3:13 pm

“I had surgery on my leg and, yep, I asked for an upgrade,” Mr Clare told Sky News. “And I was assisted by Qantas.

That’s nice Mr Clare. No doubt your name and position had nothing to do with the upgrade. Snork.

Or is that Snort, snort, trough, don’t you know who I am?

Unfortunately Qantas was unable to provide an upgrade for my husband after his bilateral surgery. He isn’t important enough.

What a repulsive, entitled creature Clare is, not for requesting an upgrade (we all try it on) but for rubbing our noses in it.

calli
calli
November 3, 2024 3:15 pm

Gosh, I’m on someone’s speed dial again this afternoon.

*waves*

Arky
November 3, 2024 3:17 pm

I watch as many of these Ford factory films and shipping in and around the Great Lakes as I can get my hands on, going back to the 1920s

Ford factory, River Rouge plant 1954:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdIVK3R7JDI

What is interesting is the men, how they hold themselves, how they reflect the society they live in.
By the 1960s the men in that plant were not the same.
They might have been some the same actual men, 15 years older, but the society had changed and they along with it.
The social decay that characterised the 1970s were well evident in the River Rouge Ford men as far back as 1962.

Roger
Roger
November 3, 2024 3:18 pm

What a repulsive, entitled creature Clare is…

Until recently – and an asinine comment about Gaza – I regarded him as one of the more sensible Labor MPs.

calli
calli
November 3, 2024 3:18 pm

I’ll rephrase that.

”We all try it on” when there is a need. Like injury or surgery.

I pity desk clerks being petitioned for “better seats” and “better rooms”. If something is available, be prepared to pay for it.

calli
calli
November 3, 2024 3:28 pm

Many of those men had seen national service. Discipline. I also think belief systems and world view shapes how people saw work – not as a career but as a means to a well defined end.

A snapshot – I remember my uncle, a plumber, going off to work (by public transport) wearing a suit, tie and hat. His overalls, along with his lunch and thermos, were in his Gladstone bag. Over six feet tall, he marched up the street as though he owned it, touching his hat to neighbours on the way.

We would stand at the gate to see him off. Tea and cake was always there on the table when he returned. Or maybe a beer in the fridge in summer.

Roger
Roger
November 3, 2024 3:28 pm

Unfortunately Qantas was unable to provide an upgrade for my husband after his bilateral surgery.

The seat was occupied by a non-paying politician?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 3, 2024 3:30 pm

Unfortunately Qantas was unable to provide an upgrade for my husband after his bilateral surgery. He isn’t important enough

Little people.

I do recall a couple of years ago Clare was labelled – no doubt by giggly staffers, and which made its way into the media – as ‘Minister for Hotness’.

I do not know whether the ladees regard him as hot – or not – but, I will say that on appearances alone, he may last between three and five minutes without a mid-strength oat milk latte at hand.

cohenite
November 3, 2024 3:32 pm
Tom
Tom
November 3, 2024 3:32 pm

There is great natural beauty and fertile abundance. 

— Calli above on her former home, Papua New Guinea:

That’s certainly true – but keep away from the perennial tribal troubles of the Western Highlands if you plan to visit for a look around.

I visited PNG twice (once to walk the Kokoda Track – best thing I ever did).

PNG is the South Pacific’s best-kept secret and it’s unlikely to be discovered any time soon by a mass audience because: a) it’s hard and expensive to get to; b) it’s a tribal society of 10 million+ people squeezed into an earthquake-prone land mass only double the size of Victoria.

You’d need a couple of months to see it all. There’s limited holiday accommodation in coastal centres like Madang, but I’d say the real gems are islands like New Britain and New Ireland in the north.

The distinguishing feature is that, even though this is the poor Third World, there is little malnutrition because of the climate and the abundance of seafood and vegetables.

However, I’d guess that, as in other Melanesian societies, diseases like diabetes are common, fuelled by the local popularity of Western soft drinks.

But the idea of a tourism economy is alien to the mostly corrupt national government, which relies on financial aid from big brother Australia.

Mining is huge but miners struggle constantly to get access to minerals. Bribes can buy almost anything at any level, up to and including the national government.

I understand the Kokoda Track is currently closed because of local tribal issues.

Definitely a bucket list must-visit, but only for adventure travellers. Allow plenty of time to comply with government time-wasting and other restrictions.

cohenite
November 3, 2024 3:36 pm

Dickless oozed in a while ago and said cackles was now likely to win Iowa:

Poll: Donald Trump Leading Kamala Harris by 10 Percent In Iowa

Zippster
Zippster
November 3, 2024 3:37 pm

Class War in the “Current Year:” Defenders of Decline

The “bug man” / “NPC” meme as describing the aspiring managerial class and its scapegoating/anger at the native workforce (in terms of Ehrenreich’s “Professional Managerial Class” and Toynbee’s “Internal Proletariat”).

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 3, 2024 3:39 pm

I had surgery on my leg and, yep, I asked for an upgrade,” Mr Clare told Sky News. “And I was assisted by Qantas.

File in things that never happened. I see old people with mobility issues flying all the time while the near empty Business cabin goes begging.

Yeah na, the rort was out there and they were all cashing in.

alwaysright
alwaysright
November 3, 2024 3:44 pm

Dickless oozed in a while ago and said cackles was now likely to win Iowa

It is wrong and you are right cohenite,

He has no dick.

JC
JC
November 3, 2024 3:47 pm

Cronkite

There was one poll that even those nancys at NRO reported on, showing Slurper 3 points ahead. Its a bullshit outlier by a no name pollster.

Worry about the cheat margin. See Georgia.

alwaysright
alwaysright
November 3, 2024 3:47 pm

Mining is huge but miners struggle constantly to get access to minerals. Bribes can buy almost anything at any level, up to and including the national government.

I know it’s bad here, but what about PNG?

Tekweni
Tekweni
November 3, 2024 3:49 pm

I did a 3 year contract in PNG looking after the chemical division of a local company. The business covered retail, commercial and industrial chemicals and I was fortunate to visit virtually every part of PNG including the islands. It’s a beautiful country and for me it was a long adventure.We had branches in Mt Hagen ,Tabubil, Rabaul, Madang, Lae and Port Moresby. Dangerous but as a South African I was not over concerned. In fact the owner of the company had a number of expat Saffas working for him as he said he found that we were not phased. Note all of us had done military service which probably helped. And the corruption was little different from that of the ANC in South Africa.

cohenite
November 3, 2024 3:55 pm

JC
 November 3, 2024 3:47 pm

Cronkite
There was one poll that even those nancys at NRO reported on, showing Slurper 3 points ahead. Its a bullshit outlier by a no name pollster.
Worry about the cheat margin. See Georgia.

Georgia:

URGENT BREAKING: Four Georgia Counties Decide at the Last Minute to Accept Ballots Over the Weekend in Violation of the Law, Refuse to Allow Republican Poll Watchers Observe Process **Updated** | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

At least the GOP seem on top of this shit unlike in 2020. Isn’t it odd that no accusations of cheating are made against the GOP. Imagine if we had a decent press. When there is a working press it is one of the fundamental reasons why the West is infinitely better than the commie and muzzie shit-holes. By working I mean impartial, non-partisan and always scrutinising the mongrels running the place. But the msm is never working and is always partisan, corrupt and spewing lies.

With maybe a dozen or less exceptions you could take the entirety of the msm out and put bullets in them and the place would be better off.

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m0nty
m0nty
November 3, 2024 3:56 pm

Its a bullshit outlier by a no name pollster.

Ann Selzer is the GOAT of US polling. You couldn’t get more credibility.

Having said that, she is putting her proverbial on the line with this poll. Interesting times!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 3, 2024 4:01 pm

I had surgery on my leg and, yep, I asked for an upgrade,” Mr Clare told Sky News. “And I was assisted by Qantas.

“Surgery on my leg” = pedicure.

Makka
Makka
November 3, 2024 4:10 pm

Ann Selzer is the GOAT of US polling. You couldn’t get more credibility.

Cred now shot. Read the thread.

NEVER believe anything m0ron says.

Mark Gustav

This looks really bad for @jaselzer

. Raises a lot of questions on her independence. This guy had the goods before the poll was released and said he got his info from none other than Gov Pritzker. How could Pritzker have known?

@StewGriffin52

·

1h

Selzer predicted Al Gore, John Kerry, Mittons Romney and Bernie (Primary) would win. I wouldn’t take her word on anything

https://x.com/MarcusGustavus/status/1852860177826922878

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 3, 2024 4:15 pm

Top Ender, I got in pretty early, almost immediately after you called for guesses, to bags 300 as my bet, but apparently Tekwini came in before me.
Thus could you please put me to the nearest available which is now 301?

Ta. Lizzie.

calli
calli
November 3, 2024 4:15 pm

That’s odd. Makka had a comment refuting the Iowa poll in moderation. Now it’s gone.

Dover, can you please retrieve it from the spam bin?

Cassie of Sydney
November 3, 2024 4:16 pm

Remember how Tony Abbot, when PM, was ridiculed and sneered at by the left because he refused an upgrade?

Makka
Makka
November 3, 2024 4:18 pm

calli,

All here.

https://x.com/MarcusGustavus/status/1852860177826922878

m0ron wrongology intact.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 3, 2024 4:25 pm

Latest listing:

Cat POTUS poll

Trump to win

484 – Bar Beach Swimmer
407 – John
P – 367
357 – AnotherRanga
347 – Vicki
330 – Perfidious Albino
325 – Long Time Lurker
321 – Helen
320 – Cohenite
319 – Megan
318 – eb
317 – mizaris
313 – Chris
312 – Zippster, thefrollickingmole
310 – Beertruk
308 – Harlequin Decline, hzhousewife
307 – chrisl
306 – Digger
305 – Indolent
304 – Bill P
303 – Farmer Gez, Tom
302 – Makka
301 – zimlurog
300 – Tekweni, Lizzie
299 – Wivenhoe
296 – mem
295 – Barking Toad
292 – Nelson_Kidd-Players
290 – Top Ender*
288 – Mak Siccar
287 – Carpe Jugulum
286 – Rosie
285 – Knuckle Dragger
281– Roger
280 – calli
279 – Bruce in WA, Siltstone
278 – Winston Smith
275 – pete m
273 – Petros
272 – Delta A
271 – Vagabond
270 – Colonel Crispin Berka
*not in comp. so will move progressively right if others want this spot

Harris to win

320 – JC
315 – alwaysright
300 – Lawgi Dawes-Hall
298 – Monty
285 – Rafiki
280 – Barry
273 – Gilas
272 – Davey Boy

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 3, 2024 4:29 pm

I gather Tim Walz has said that Elon Musk is gay.

This was fun, since in the last week we found out that Elon has a capacious pad, worth about $50 million, which has no less than three ladies in it and 12 children.

Not many gay men have three girlfriends and twelve children by them,

Roger
Roger
November 3, 2024 4:32 pm

Bill Clinton stumping for Harris in Michigan:

“I don’t think it’s right to say that people have to vote for Donald Trump because the economy was better then.”

“Well, if [illegals let in by Biden-Harris] had all been properly vetted [crimes they committed] against Americans probably wouldn’t have happened.”

Sounds like Bill made the mistake of trying to defend her record.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 3, 2024 4:33 pm

OK, TE, I see that someone has already asked for 301 too.

I’ll take 282 or 283 if either is still available.

My optimism is fading.

Makka
Makka
November 3, 2024 4:44 pm

Seems that only 7% of Iowans care about the economy.

https://x.com/JackPosobiec/status/1852879386888073456

The poll is horsesh*t.

wivenhoe
wivenhoe
November 3, 2024 4:53 pm

Its a bullshit outlier by a no name pollster.

Ann Selzer is the GOAT of US polling. You couldn’t get more credibility.
Is this where I am supposed to laugh, or do i wait until Trump wins Iowa

Pogria
Pogria
November 3, 2024 4:59 pm

If the Gimp were a Pizza.

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Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 3, 2024 5:04 pm

TE, can you let me know where I am with my selections?

I really don’t care as long as it is above the line.

Allocate away, but let me know. Ta.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 3, 2024 5:07 pm

Thank you, TE. Found it in the reply.

I am 283 now.

This is still worryingly within the debatable range where all sorts of legal to and fros might come into play, but at least it’s not in the 70’s.

My hope is still for a too big to rig number, like my original 300, but there you go, can’t

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 3, 2024 5:08 pm

I replied just after you posted Lizzie, in the nested comments: “283 is yours”.

m0nty
m0nty
November 3, 2024 5:11 pm

Harris winning Iowa would be a November surprise, for sure. She has been strong with older voters, so Florida counting early on Wednesday morning will tell us whether Selzer added too much gin to her seltzer.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
November 3, 2024 5:16 pm

The MSM is pleased to carry on about it being a neck and neck election.
But are they giving their audience an even presentation?

I perceive that there are way more vox pops with Democrat voters, and way more negative items about Trump.

Cassie of Sydney
November 3, 2024 5:21 pm

Whilst I’m not making any predictions as to the overall result on Tuesday (Wednesday our time), I will predict this…..

Donald Trump will win Iowa.

Little Gidding
Little Gidding
November 3, 2024 5:22 pm

I’ll take Trump 323.

Megan
Megan
November 3, 2024 5:43 pm

“I had surgery on my leg and, yep, I asked for an upgrade,” Mr Clare told Sky News. “And I was assisted by Qantas.

My surgeon provided a medical certificate to Qantas when I had to defer a flight to have knee surgery. I flew to LA with my 13month old baby a week later and the only upgrade I got was a seat in the more spacious bulkhead row and a bucket to keep my leg elevated.

They did deliver me to the immigration fast track once I reached the US.

So, Mr Clare, what makes YOUR leg surgery more worthy of an upgrade, you grifting parasite?

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 3, 2024 5:49 pm

Didn’t Blache D’Alwhatsit and someone have a cat fight in the chairperson’s lounge at Adelaide?

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 3, 2024 5:49 pm

POTUS 47 poll-
Trump at 327 please Topper.
…I’ve got no idea if it fits a possible electoral college outcome, but it’s the type of low energy bingo/sweepstakes gambling that I can get into, and the prizes are swaaaaaag.

alwaysright
alwaysright
November 3, 2024 5:50 pm

Next poll:

How many states will quit the union when Cakula gets 300+ college votes?

Winner gets to spend a weekend at M0r0ns place.

Crossie
Crossie
November 3, 2024 5:51 pm

Digger

 November 3, 2024 5:39 pm

 Reply to  Tom

So true… and they will. I expect none of the swing states to be called on the day of the election…

This is from a group of nested replies.

I am so depressed about the whole thing that I don’t expect any states except California and New York to be called on election night. I also predict that a particular cheat will be launched at Texas, if they can swing it they won’t need many of the smaller swing states.

Cassie of Sydney
November 3, 2024 5:51 pm

I had a double knee replacement almost three years ago. I’m still waiting for my airline ‘upgrade’. I thought socialism was about ‘sharing’? I’ve never flown ‘business’ or ‘first class’. I sometimes think it would be nice to experience either before I die.

But on a more serious note, and one that those here with a modicum of history would know, those infamous socialists throughout history never went without. Going without is for the plebs, for the masses, for the great unwashed, for ordinary people like you and me. I remember reading how, during the Soviet famine of 1921, when thousands starved and dropped dead thanks to Lenin’s idiotic and chaotic collectivisation policies, high ranking Communist party officials were extremely well fed. This was noticed at the time by foreign aid groups who were given permission to go in and distribute food. During the Siege of Leningrad, from 1941 to 1944, the city was cut off on all sides except through Lake Ladoga. Food supplies were hindered by the German encirclement, and so hundreds of thousands of ordinary men, women and children starved and dropped dead on the streets, with many engaging in cannibalism BUT the Soviet elite running Leningrad were well fed, any food that made it across Lake Ladoga was first distributed to fill the tummies of the party elite. The same happened during the Holodomor, in China, in Cambodia, in North Korea.

Now, some might say to me that it’s a big stretch to compare an airline upgrade to siphoning food during a famine or siege but it all comes from the same socialist/communist trough. The grub from Grayndler and his motley comrades, the Green Nazi party, the Teal whores and all rest of the corrupt grubs found loitering in our Canberra trough are no different to the party comrades of old, be it Lenin, Stalin and so on. Remember this, whilst they are quite happy to make us go without, they have absolutely no intention of ever going without.

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Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 3, 2024 6:01 pm

No doubt a concussion. Did I laugh? Yes, yes i did.

—–

Steve Inman:

Everyone saw it coming except for her.

Its Remarkable
Its Remarkable
November 3, 2024 6:02 pm

Hi TE – could I have 291, pretty please. Cheers,

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 3, 2024 6:07 pm

Hi y’all. Have checked back over the last two pages, and think I have everyone. If not, please advise on the Open Thread, not in nested comments.

Cat POTUS poll

Trump to win

484 – Bar Beach Swimmer
407 – John
P – 367
357 – AnotherRanga
347 – Vicki
330 – Perfidious Albino
327 – Wally Dalí
325 – Long Time Lurker
323 – Little Gidding
321 – Helen
320 – Cohenite
319 – Megan
318 – eb
317 – mizaris
313 – Chris
312 – Zippster, thefrollickingmole
310 – Beertruk
308 – Harlequin Decline, hzhousewife
307 – chrisl
306 – Digger
305 – Indolent, Old School Conservative
304 – Bill P
303 – Farmer Gez, Tom
302 – Makka
301 – zimlurog
300 – Tekweni
299 – Wivenhoe
296 – mem
295 – Barking Toad
292 – Nelson_Kidd-Players
291 – Its Remarkable
290 – Top Ender*
288 – Mak Siccar
287 – Carpe Jugulum
286 – Rosie
285 – Knuckle Dragger
283 – Lizzie
282 – Steve of Kenmore
281– Roger
280 – calli
279 – Bruce in WA, Siltstone
278 – Winston Smith, Howie
275 – pete m
273 – Petros, Gilas
272 – Delta A
271 – Vagabond
270 – Colonel Crispin Berka
*not in comp. so will move progressively right if others want this spot

Harris to win
?
334 – Zafiro
320 – JC
315 – alwaysright
300 – Lawgi Dawes-Hall
298 – Monty
285 – Rafiki
280 – Barry
273 – Gilas
272 – Davey Boy
 

Crossie
Crossie
November 3, 2024 6:09 pm

I see that Jon Bon Jovi has endorsed Kamala and even claims to have written a song about J6. Well, he has just lost my daughters. I didn’t mind his and the group’s songs but I do now.

Do these US celebrities realise that they are destroying any basis for a unified culture and that in future up and coming celebrities may be asked to take sides?

caveman
caveman
November 3, 2024 6:09 pm

Put me down Trump 526

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 3, 2024 6:10 pm

Andrew Bolt: Labor’s no longer about fighting for the poor, rather it’s fighting for poor me-me-me

Federal Education Minister Jason Clare has just schooled us on how to demand freebies while still playing the victim.

What an insight into the entitlement culture of this – ha! – socialist Left government of Upgrade Albanese.

Clare admitted on Sunday he’d, oops, asked Qantas government relations staff for an upgrade for a holiday flight to Singapore in 2019.

Amazing. The man goes on holidays but wants other people to pay for it?

Knowing how bad this sounded with his prime minister accused of the very same thing, Clare pulled out his violin.

Clare said he’d just had surgery to cut a melanoma out of his leg so “yep, I asked for an upgrade”.

“I remember picking up the phone and asking for a bit of assistance there.”

Here’s where your heart is supposed to melt. Give that poor, lame politician an upgrade!

But wait. If Clare really thought he needed to fly in business class with his wonky leg, why didn’t he pay for the upgrade himself?

Why ask Qantas to pay for it?

This kind of thing seems to run in Clare’s family.

In his first speech to parliament, he complained that his great-great-great-great-grandfather also had to travel when he had problems with his leg.

That problem was a leg iron. Thomas Clare was a thief, you see, being transported to Australia, but Jason Clare reassured parliament: “We have come a long way since then.”

Yes! Now that thief’s great-great-great-great-grandson can get Qantas to provide the Clare leg with comfort he has no intention of paying for himself.

Maybe the Clare family hasn’t come such a long way after all.

In that same speech, Clare vowed a Labor government “will put fairness back into the workplaces”.

Now look at him and his Labor prime minister, oinking ahead of the queue to get business class seats they haven’t paid for.

When I worked for the Labor Party I thought it was about fighting for the poor.

Now the Education Minister shows it’s busy fighting for the poor me-me-me.

For Albanese, Clare’s admission is yet more embarrassment. It took the Prime Minister six days after he was accused of himself asking Qantas for freebies to finally deny doing any such thing in any possible way.

Yet now Clare shows how easily a Labor MP could limp into a business class seat just by calling some guy at Qantas.

This scandal has more legs than Clare’s clan.

Herald-Sun

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
November 3, 2024 6:12 pm

Wow – what a painting

Crossie
Crossie
November 3, 2024 6:16 pm

Forgiving HECS fees is another way to cause division and animosity within society. What Upgrade Albo is doing is telling hard working tradies and other non-degreed workers that they have to pay for the Palestinian protesters’ HECS. Not smart Albo, you may get those Greens voters back but you will lose far more of other young voters.

132andBush
132andBush
November 3, 2024 6:21 pm

TE,
Can I have whatever Monty has said for Kamala for Trump please?
It will probably be more than that but it will do.

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calli
calli
November 3, 2024 6:22 pm

Leg Iron Clare is still stealing.

Now he expects my kids, who have paid off their HECS debt at great cost, now to pay off other people’s.

Incidentally , they too are descendants of those who came here below decks.

Rabz
November 3, 2024 6:25 pm

Cats, this is for poor li’l Peanut the Squirrel:

This beautiful creature must die … 😕

Roger
Roger
November 3, 2024 6:25 pm

Now, some might say to me that it’s a big stretch to compare an airline upgrade to siphoning food during a famine or siege but it all comes from the same socialist/communist trough. 

It does indeed.

An insightful commenter on the British Labor MPs recent “gift” scandals whose name eludes me made the point that if a person deems themselves to be righteous because they’re on the right (i.e. Left) side of politics they’ll likely consider themselves deserving of any perks that come their way without a second thought as to how it might look or any codes of conduct in place.

It is, in their eyes, justified.

It displays an astonishing lack of moral insight.

It wasn’t Theodore Dalrymple but it was along his lines of analysis.

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Vicki
Vicki
November 3, 2024 6:26 pm

If you want to see how slanted the polls are –

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/rcp-pollster-scorecard/

Indolent
Indolent
November 3, 2024 6:32 pm

This was on Outsiders this morning and its outstanding.

Democrats deserve the ‘electoral ass-whooping’ they are about to get: Benji Irby

One of the comments –

Justice for Peanut

Lots of comments from America, too.

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Vicki
Vicki
November 3, 2024 6:33 pm

A Roman dam seems to have saved a town in Spain.

Love those guys. So many of the constructions of those incredible engineers are still standing.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14032589/dam-spain-floods-modern-defences-failed-valencia.html

wivenhoe
wivenhoe
November 3, 2024 6:39 pm

Donald Trump will win Iowa.

3

 Reply YEAH!!, what Dover said.

Crossie
Crossie
November 3, 2024 6:39 pm

Cassie of Sydney

 November 3, 2024 5:51 pm

I had a double knee replacement almost three years ago. I’m still waiting for my airline ‘upgrade’. I thought socialism was about ‘sharing’? I’ve never flown ‘business’ or ‘first class’. I sometimes think it would be nice to experience either before I die.

Long ago I used to work with a woman whose husband was an architect who could afford to buy them business class airline tickets when travelling to Europe each year. She told me that they travelled economy, that it was important to get there as cheaply as possible. Once they got there they stayed in nice accommodation in prestigious destinations and enjoyed themselves.

This reminded me how all of us had to make decisions about our priorities except, of course, for our politicians to whom even the sky is not the limit.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 3, 2024 6:41 pm

Rasmussen Head Pollster Predicts Major Trump Landslide Victory

not counting on it but let’s be hopeful

cohenite
November 3, 2024 6:46 pm

On Friday’s The Five that Jewish princess kunt jessica tarlov regurgitated the Trump liz cheney bullshit; that Trump had supposedly called for her execution when he had simply in typical Trump flourish repeated what the demorats had called cheney 20 years ago: a hypocritical war monger. If you watch nothing else just watch how Watters, Gutfeld and the Judge eviscerate tarlov. Gutfeld especially can barely contain his anger at tarlov and the msm’s gutter lie about this and every other lie about Trump.

On this basis I’ll make an ancillary prediction: if Trump wins and the demorats try again what they did after the last time he won I think they will be met on the streets with a lot more resistance from Trump supporters and officials. I think the penny has dropped at what destructive bastards the demorats and leftoids are in general.

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Eyrie
Eyrie
November 3, 2024 6:52 pm

OTOH, not much to admire, either.
Morality-wise, that is.

Musk’s genes need reproducing far and wide. He’s the first space Emperor. Whatever it takes. Good on him and the ladies concerned. I see on various occasions during launches, a little Muskette is sitting on Elon’s knee while Elon is at a PC. I think he likes his kids.
Also seen during a Tim Dodd interview at Starbase, 3 little Muskettes being looked after by nannies. Hilarious as they made a break for it and the nannies and Elon’s inner ring of security round them up.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 3, 2024 6:53 pm

TE can I have Trump 294 please?

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
November 3, 2024 6:58 pm

Discounting HECS fees by 20% shows the tertiary sector they can increase their take by 20%. Also fails to teach that if you acquire a debt, it should be paid.

Rabz
November 3, 2024 6:58 pm

Sad ol’ hollyweirdo trading on his non existent glory days as someone paid to impersonate non existent characters* endorses the cackling kamel: She ‘Will Protect Your Right to Disagree with Her’

From the comfort of a 6×8 gaol cell, no doubt.

*One of which didn’t exist a long time ago in a galaxy far far away …

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 3, 2024 6:59 pm
Crossie
Crossie
November 3, 2024 7:02 pm

Vicki

 November 3, 2024 6:26 pm

If you want to see how slanted the polls are –

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/rcp-pollster-scorecard/

I wouldn’t mind if the polls were just wrong because then the win, in contrast to them, would be much sweeter. The point of the neck and neck polls is to make the forthcoming steal look more feasible. They could say it was so close and obviously the winner had more voters turn out at the last minute. Gaslighting in its purest form.

m0nty
m0nty
November 3, 2024 7:03 pm

On this basis I’ll make an ancillary prediction: if Trump wins and the demorats try again what they did after the last time he won I think they will be met on the streets with a lot more resistance from Trump supporters and officials. I think the penny has dropped at what destructive bastards the demorats and leftoids are in general.

Yeah I dunno cohenite, there has been zero evidence of the Proud Boys, III%ers etc recovering from their leadership going to gaol after J6. Maybe there is another fifth column lying in wait to do the putsch right this time, but if so they are keeping well schtum.

The other aspect of that is that there will be a major show of force by Biden to prevent any such shenanigans ensuing again. The handover on Jan 2025 will be wrapped up tighter than a fish’s bum, cops will be three deep all over DC. Any crowd of black-clad insurgents will get slam tackled toot sweet.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
November 3, 2024 7:04 pm

Top Ender, please change my prediction to 271.

I therefore predict Vagabond will win the comp.
But no harm in getting 2nd place prize, heheh.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 3, 2024 7:05 pm

stories about Tasmanians are true

A heart-warming feelgood story for the whole family.

As long as that family (and a guest or two) is gathered in a car in a Tassie houso carpark.

calli
calli
November 3, 2024 7:12 pm

Joe Hildebrand ranting* on Sky. My hand is hovering on the control.

Phew…he ran out of puff.

Freya Leach doesn’t even bother to get a word in edgewise.

*about the uselessness of the Harris campaign, so there is that

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
November 3, 2024 7:16 pm

Hubby has just remarked that the voting machine tabulations in the swing states have no doubt put Joe Biden ahead by 256,000 votes.

Keep your sense of humour everyone !

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 3, 2024 7:19 pm

Crossie:

Forgiving HECS fees is another way to cause division and animosity within society. 

That’s the idea.
Communists work by splitting society into groups and pitting them against each other.
The whole idea behind “Greek/Australians”, “Italian/Australians” and “Aboriginal/Australians” is creating division where it didn’t exist before.

Crossie
Crossie
November 3, 2024 7:20 pm

hzhousewife

 November 3, 2024 6:58 pm

Discounting HECS fees by 20% shows the tertiary sector they can increase their take by 20%. Also fails to teach that if you acquire a debt, it should be paid.

Doesn’t this also tells us that universities are charging too much? Or better still, let’s go back to uni courses being free as long as you have marks good enough to qualify for entry. As for international students? Simple, no more.

Diogenes
Diogenes
November 3, 2024 7:21 pm

What Upgrade Albo is doing is telling hard working tradies and other non-degreed workers that they have to pay for the Palestinian protesters’ HECS

You do know that apprentices may be charged fees for the TAFE component of their training. They may avail themselves of HECS/ fee/help just like uni grads do

Crossie
Crossie
November 3, 2024 7:22 pm

Freya Leach is on Sky at the moment with The Sunday Showdown crew. She is very young yet so good, I hope she has a great media future ahead of her.

cohenite
November 3, 2024 7:22 pm

Any crowd of black-clad insurgents will get slam tackled toot sweet.

If by black-clad insurgents you mean antifa, BLM and other sundry FBI plants then dickless, that is something we can agree on. But I doubt the demorats will suppress their core constituency.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 3, 2024 7:25 pm

could afford to buy them business class airline tickets when travelling to Europe each year. She told me that they travelled economy, that it was important to get there as cheaply as possible. Once they got there they stayed in nice accommodation in prestigious destinations and enjoyed themselves.

Mmmyes.
That used to be my theory too.
The trade-off between accommodation dollars and flying dollars.
Now we just do both … fly up the front AND pay for good accommodation.
(But none of it is courtesy of the taxpayer or airline shareholders).

Rabz
November 3, 2024 7:26 pm

leg iron clare is still stealing

He’s as big a fan of Barry Manilo and Gliberace as mincing marles.

Cassie of Sydney
November 3, 2024 7:28 pm

Maybe there is another fifth column lying in wait to do the putsch right this time, but if so they are keeping well schtum.

You and your lot know all about ‘putsches’, don’t you Nazi?

Tom
Tom
November 3, 2024 7:29 pm

Roaring laughing at 82-year-old professional liar Harrison Ford begging the zombies to vote for Kamala because she has a vagina.

Who the f***king f**k cares what the professional lying elite thinks? The only thing they do for a living is telling porkies.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 3, 2024 7:29 pm

Let’s also see how Vivek Ramaswarmy rolls too when he speaks to the voters. Have a look at him here, in New York at the big rally there – full of Nazis of course. All those Jewish Nazis, and Nazis of Colour, and Nazi suburban mums and dads and even the Nazi kids. Democrats have got nothing to offer, nothing but more of the dismal same. Vivek is such a young firebrand and the crowd is loving it.

Vivek and Vance are apparently good mates – that’s why Vance called his son Vivek, a good Indian name.

Not to win now is unthinkable, but if the steal should be on and take it by slim margins in a few key seats, the enthusiasm and clear direction setting that the Trump rallies provide shows exactly where the country is sitting with regard to Democrat lunacies. The shift everywhere, even amongst Democrats, is away from the ‘woke’ and towards the right.

In this we win even if we don’t. The anti-woke tide is floating all boats.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 3, 2024 7:33 pm

82-year-old professional liar Harrison Ford

Whose best cinematic moment was as a counterintelligence officer in Apocalypse Now.

And made a shit tin of cash pretending to be something he wasn’t in a number of extremely popular roles, before he decided he had enough rivers of gold and reverted to type.

A bit like Bruce Springsteen, really.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 3, 2024 7:39 pm

According to Daniel Greenfield the ‘rats even called Barry Goldwater a nazzi! Truly the evil party.

Gabor
Gabor
November 3, 2024 7:39 pm

In this we win even if we don’t. The anti-woke tide is floating all boats.

If Trump loses he might as well move to Cuba, Argentina or Venezuela, otherwise he will end up in jail and broke, guaranteed.

They simply stayed the execution so far, being unsure of the election outcome, but the full judicial fury will be unleashed if he loses.

Crossie
Crossie
November 3, 2024 7:39 pm

Tom

 November 3, 2024 6:44 pm

 Reply to  Crossie

These idiots in the music industry apparently think the emotional gratification from sacrificing half their recording sales in order to be popular with the minority somehow makes sense.

Dumbest people ever born.

I have noticed that it’s mostly old celebrities who are no longer relevant or the ones who are so rich that they don’t care if they lose viewers/concertgoers in the near future. The youngsters are not coming out for Kamala which makes me happy even if they are only concerned with their financial position, at least they are rational.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 3, 2024 7:41 pm

Before Democrats were comparing Nixon to Hitler, they were comparing Barry Goldwater to Hitler. Goldwater had a Jewish father and a distaste for Socialism, which would have made him unwelcome in the ranks of the racially and politically pure National Socialists, but that didn’t stop the Hitler accusations from being hurled by the Democratic party and its political allies in the press.

calli
calli
November 3, 2024 7:44 pm

Freya Leach and Kel Richards get to the nub of the issue.

-is there an inappropriate relationship between Qantas and government

-rules governing parliamentarians forbid them from asking for gifts

The whole upgrade issue has opened a stinking can of worms.

calli
calli
November 3, 2024 7:46 pm

What happens when everyone’s Hitler?

Will there be grades of Hitler? Perhaps percentages?

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 3, 2024 7:47 pm

The whole upgrade issue has opened a stinking can of worms.

Good and it’s time to revisit foreign citizens sitting in parliament

Cassie of Sydney
November 3, 2024 7:50 pm

According to Daniel Greenfield the ‘rats even called Barry Goldwater a nazzi! Truly the evil party.

Goldwater was an interesting man. Unfairly maligned.

Lawgi Dawes-Hall
Lawgi Dawes-Hall
November 3, 2024 7:50 pm

toot sweet (adv.)

“right away, promptly,” 1917, American English, representing U.S. soldiers’ mangled adaptation of French tout de suite “immediately, at once” (de suite = “in sequence”),

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
November 3, 2024 7:50 pm

Watching a Diners Drive Ins and Dives from 2008 and it’s a completely different world. A bacon cheeseburger was braggadociosly only $4.75. I looked up the website and that burger is $17 today. 

A few weeks ago I had a similar, much longer term real inflation check – the price of a pint of beer in a basic pub.

In 1973, when I first started (legally) drinking in pubs, a pint of Newcastle Exhibition was around 12p.

The Bank of England inflation calculator tells me that, at the historical official inflation rates, that should be £1.10 a pint in 2024 terms – everything else being equal.

Everything else is obviously not equal. Not by a long way.

?A basic pint in the industrial north is around £4.50, a basic pint in a crappy London pub, around £8.00.

As we notice here, real inflation is far greater than the official rate suggests.

cohenite
November 3, 2024 7:50 pm

I have noticed that it’s mostly old celebrities who are no longer relevant or the ones who are so rich that they don’t care if they lose viewers/concertgoers in the near future. The youngsters are not coming out for Kamala which makes me happy even if they are only concerned with their financial position, at least they are rational.

Most of the cast of the Avengers, the best of the Marvel movie conversions, have come out for cackles: Johansson, Downy, Evans, Ruffalo who is a real prick, Cheadle, Bettany, and someone called Gurira who was in the worst of Marvels, Black Panther. Fuk them all; with Diddy’s dildoes.

Vicki
Vicki
November 3, 2024 7:53 pm

Freya Leach is on Sky at the moment with The Sunday Showdown crew. She is very young yet so good, I hope she has a great media future ahead of her.

Crossie, I heard her speak at the Sydney Institute a while back. She bravely opposed the anti-Semites at Sydney Uni, and, if my memory is correct – her father was the lone man who carried an Israeli flag at the infamous Opera House debacle.

She spoke superbly at the Institute and I stayed back to congratulate her. A lovely, extremely bright young lady.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 3, 2024 7:54 pm

Goldwater was an interesting man. Unfairly maligned.

Yes and I’m sure most here would be familiar with Ronald Reagan’s speech for Barry Goldwater but in case they’re not here it is-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXBswFfh6AY

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 3, 2024 7:58 pm

Johnson trash would really have to be up there with the worst until the old perv came along.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 3, 2024 8:00 pm

Albo’s HECS stunt will be seen as a cheap bribe in the way Howard’s tax free superannuation distributions were not. Of course you could argue (legitimately) that the money has been taxed15% going in, 15% on earnings so taxing it a 3rd time might be a little unreasonable.

Fairness is in the eye of the beholder.

Barry
Barry
November 3, 2024 8:03 pm

All you jokers on the Trump side of the ledger,

the cheating is light years beyond your comprehension:

How rigged are American Elections?

VOTER ROLLS: Tom Fitton, Judicial Watch “We sued:

– California, settled the case, 1,200,000 names removed

– New York, settled the case, 450,000 names removed

– Pennsylvania, 1 county removed 69,000 names. Many more were removed as a part of a settlement

– Kentucky, 500,000 names removed after a consent decree

– North Carolina removed a bunch of names. In total, approximately 4,000,000 names were cleaned up in the last year and a half

– LA County removed 1,200,000 names, the rest of the state is still a mess”

Now just imagine all the voter rolls that haven’t been corrected in every county in every state. This is truly mind blowing

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Roger
Roger
November 3, 2024 8:15 pm

As we notice here, real inflation is far greater than the official rate suggests.

As is unemployment.

Funny that.

It’s as though being in government employ gives one a license to fudge the figures…for the greater good, of course.

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Gabor
Gabor
November 3, 2024 8:30 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
November 3, 2024 8:17 pm

Israel. The Israelis love him. Indeed I recommend he leaves for Tel Aviv tomorrow.

There is a slight problem, Israel depends on the US for her security, not sure they will protect him if push comes to shove.

The other 3 I mentioned are already in the black books with the US so they don’t care.
As to moving tomorrow, I agree, I just hope he has made suitable arrangements and doesn’t depend on the mercy of the democrats in case he loses.
I hope to God I am wrong and he comes through and wins big.

chrisl
chrisl
November 3, 2024 8:32 pm

What Trump said about Liz Cheney Wes exactly what John Fogerty sang about in Fortunate Son
It ain’t me
It ain’t me
I ain’t no fortunate one

Gilas
Gilas
November 3, 2024 8:37 pm

Top Ender
November 3, 2024 6:07 pm

Cat POTUS poll

You have me down twice for 273..
As I have the nauseating feeling that the Kamel’s cheat will overcome the Trump landslide, it’s 273 for the cackler from me.
Thank you.

bons
bons
November 3, 2024 8:38 pm

Well, despite my at times acriminous discussions with my UK (domiciled) daughter about selling up and returning to Oz, the response was pretty much “gee Dad, that won’t happen”.

As of two days ago her Kent farm is worth 20% less, but it is far worse than that. Nobody in the UK will buy farm properties with Stalinist manacs in charge of the nation insisting that all productive land be turned into kale plantations.

Sure, presentationally it is Starmer’s fault, but in reality it is not. The whole outrage is a consequence of the self serving arrogance of the UK establishment. They still despise the lower orders and as long as their wealth is secure in Dubai, or in huge landholdings the the Royals will prevent Starmer from stealing, they don’t care.

This week Farage showed himself as just another snobbish establishment figure contemptuous of the working class.

They need to be careful.

Roger
Roger
November 3, 2024 8:41 pm

This week Farage showed himself as just another snobbish establishment figure contemptuous of the working class.

And Reform is down 3 points in the polls as a result.

m0nty
m0nty
November 3, 2024 8:45 pm

If by black-clad insurgents you mean antifa, BLM and other sundry FBI plants

I mean the scores and scores of confirmed right-wing militants who started a riot and tried an insurrection… then got arrested, convicted and gaoled for long stretches.

If there is going to be any sort of repeat of J6, those new cadres are exercising some stellar radio silence protocols. The far, far more likely scenario is no populist uprising to save Trump from gaol.

Vicki
Vicki
November 3, 2024 8:49 pm

Hey guys – Cassie is on a Sky panel at the moment!

Cassie of Sydney
November 3, 2024 8:58 pm

I mean the scores and scores of confirmed right-wing militants who started a riot and tried an insurrection… then got arrested, convicted and gaoled for long stretches.

Of course, our Nazi says nothing about the scores and scores of confirmed left-wing militants who started riots and insurrections across America over the summer of 2020, and most of them didn’t get arrested, most of them didn’t get convicted and most of them didn’t get gaoled for any short or long stretches.

It is also worth remembering that Cackling Kamalhhhhhha the Great Fellator helped set up numerous online go fund me accounts for those scores and scores of confirmed left-wing militants, activists and all round scum.

Don’t worry folks, I’m always happy to provide the Nazi with some basic facts.

Pogria
Pogria
November 3, 2024 9:03 pm

“What happens when everyone’s Hitler?
Will there be grades of Hitler? Perhaps percentages?”

Calli,
I am fighting my own personal Hitlers right now. Crows have killed my beloved hens. I am working to stop them going after my ducks and turkeys.
I don’t have guns, yet, and it was too windy today to use my Bow, so I placed poison out for the murderers.
The problem with that is, I will have to sacrifice my favourite birds, Magpies, as they eat the same food that Crows eat. Except, Maggies don’t murder chickens.

The Poison has a trickle-down effect, as I have to keep my dogs on leads when I take them out with me.

I will prevail. Tomorrow is supposed to be calm. I have a good eye, and don’t need specs.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 3, 2024 9:33 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 3, 2024 9:33 pm
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Indolent
Indolent
November 3, 2024 9:44 pm

@VishBurra

As a former drug dealer who has been raided under criminal pretenses by the State of New York, I would like to opine on the Mark Longo and Peanut situation as an expert.

If you told me this was an SNL parody of what a future Democrat run anarcho-tyranny state looked like, I would believe you.

> Guy runs a animal rescue non-profit
>10 officers raid his house
>not allowed to use bathroom alone
>not allowed to feed his other rescue animals
>interrogated wife about immigration status
>search warrant from 4 bureaucratic departments
>they put down the squirrel and his raccoon

Just absolute clown world government and maniacs running the place.

We need Trump really bad

Digger
Digger
November 3, 2024 9:52 pm

After a lot of observation I’m now of the opinion that the swing states may not matter so much in this election. I think Biden and Harris have destroyed the majority of American voters faith in government and in particular, those two, that Trump just might pull a Reagan and swing a lot of Democrat states over…. Rigging polls will not sway voters who have been disenfranchised from their normal life by cost of living and crime statistics pressures brought about by the actions of those morons…

Iron Cove
Iron Cove
November 3, 2024 9:55 pm

282 for Trump thanks TE

Figures
Figures
November 3, 2024 9:58 pm

Defence lawyers should start calling in DPPs to testify under oath whether they place pressure on staff to pursue obviously false rape cases.

A feminist DPP being imprisoned for perjury would be most satisfying.

Indolent
Indolent
November 3, 2024 10:18 pm
Indolent
Indolent
November 3, 2024 10:24 pm
cohenite
November 3, 2024 10:36 pm

I mean the scores and scores of confirmed right-wing militants who started a riot and tried an insurrection… then got arrested, convicted and gaoled for long stretches.

LOL, great piss taking dickless.

Michael
Michael
November 3, 2024 10:53 pm

Virginia is shaping up to be a crucial battleground. Youngkin wanted to purge the rolls of non-existent voters. The Dems took it all the way to SCOTUS and lost, to protect the steal. If Virginia falls then a landslide is on that cannot be hidden by shenanigans elsewhere.

Michael
Michael
November 3, 2024 11:10 pm

There are famous Virginia battlegrounds: Manassas, Fredericksburg, Petersburg, and then surrender at Appomattox. Will the war be won in Virginia?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 3, 2024 11:13 pm

Dickless: ” insurrectionary insurrection is insurrecting”

Also dickless ” no firearms were used by gun huggers preparing to overthrow the government – because reasons”

Lysander
Lysander
November 3, 2024 11:45 pm

Put me down for 538 Electoral College votes for CumAllah.

Shes obviously the greatest POTUS candidate in history and by Wednesday night you’ll all be marvelling at my genius.

David Dewar
David Dewar
November 4, 2024 12:01 am

Hi TE

My guess: Trump – 326

David

Helen
Helen
November 4, 2024 12:15 am

Professor Saag on Cognitive Dissonance and Trump Derangement Syndrome.

It is an hour, but entertaining. As he says –

a full-throated defence of @realDonaldTrump as the superior candidate, and the psychological reasons that so many people are unable to free themselves of their hatred for him

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Brislurker
Brislurker
November 4, 2024 12:32 am

TE please put me in for 300.

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