Open Thread – Mon 2 Dec 2024


Old Sarum, John Constable, 1834

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Pete of perth
Pete of perth
December 2, 2024 12:22 am

Good evening.

John H.
John H.
December 2, 2024 12:24 am

If you interested in an up to date book on paleoanthropology The World Before Us by Tom Highham is worth a read.

Arky
December 2, 2024 12:49 am

Of course, it’s possible that God both exists and doesn’t exist, simultaneously.
Maybe everyone gets exactly what they want.
Atheists and believers.
It’s no less unlikely than the fact that we exist at all in the first place.
And maybe the Buddhists get to go around again and again, and again, never quite getting it right.
Wouldn’t that be awful?
Frankly, although I choose to believe in God, not least because it really pisses off some truly abysmal individuals, the idea of eternity, specially if it involved going around again from beginning, is horrifying.
Dear Lord, let me go after this one is over.
It’s been all I wanted, no more, no less.
One thing I am sure of, is that the prosaic world as depicted by the dull and literal “sciency” types isn’t anything to chase after. Their dreary perception of existence is their own reward.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 2, 2024 12:51 am

A great clip to show to little ones.

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Woof Bark Growl:

Cash 2.0 Great Dane-deer at The Grove 2024 (1 of 8)

Arky
December 2, 2024 1:20 am

Evolution:
Doesn’t explain the substrate of reality.
Depends upon a chemical/ physical reality that is highly improbable.
Mechanism of evolution has to have evolved into existence, but can’t have done so before there was such a mechanism -> dilemma.
Doesn’t explain purpose.
Deeply unsatisfying from a narrative perspective.
Belief of such, in practice leads to many undesirable outcomes.

God:
Works as an explanation on multiple levels of reality.
Satisfying narrative, powerful story.
Pisses off the right people.
Leads to positive outcomes in practice, therefore congruent with reality.

KevinM
KevinM
December 2, 2024 2:41 am

Sooo, that’s where you are hiding?
Didn’t know ‘dillos can do that.

dillo
KevinM
KevinM
December 2, 2024 2:44 am

Nice XM or XP?
Great old pumps, worth a mint these days.

Suits and ties and stockings in 46 degrees heat?

cob
KevinM
KevinM
December 2, 2024 2:50 am

Wheat stacks at Port Wakefield, South Australia 1911.
About 160 thousands of them, or more sometimes.

Waiting to be transported by ketches out to the waiting large ships,
According to records those sacks had to be handled at least six times before finally in the holds of those ships and then unloading, yet still profitable.

wheat
KevinM
KevinM
December 2, 2024 2:51 am

Another view.

PRG-280-1-43-228
Tom
Tom
December 2, 2024 4:01 am

He’s back! Johannes Leak.

Tom
Tom
December 2, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
December 2, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
December 2, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
December 2, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
December 2, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
December 2, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
December 2, 2024 4:06 am
Winston Smith
Winston Smith
December 2, 2024 5:46 am

https://youtu.be/wr3p7xDvMgw
Landslides – common in the Western regions of China.
Poor buggers.

KevinM
KevinM
December 2, 2024 5:55 am

Winston Smith
December 2, 2024 5:38 am

Reply to  KevinM

Do you know the weight of them? They’d be 40/50 kilo at least.

Sorry I deleted the link I got the picture from, but a commenter said his grandfather was lumping wheat at harvest and he was 65 Kg and the bags weight was more than that, he was shearing at other times and by the age of fifty he could do no more heavy work.
Not surprised.

Standard weight of a bag of wheat is about 80 t0 82 Kg, that is now!

calli
calli
December 2, 2024 6:31 am

All this religious speculation…. Here, let me throw something else in the mix.

Didn’t think of that one, did you?

Humour-6
Petros
Petros
December 2, 2024 6:36 am

Kim Williams’ diatribe about Joe Rogan has been picked up by ZeroHedge. The lack of self-awareness is breathtaking. Thanks Rupert for promoting this dictator over the years. I’m sure the Liberals will defund the ABC promptly when they get in. /sarc.

calli
calli
December 2, 2024 6:38 am

Someone got out on the wrong side of the bed? The sun is shining, the birds are singing and life is very, very good.

Petros
Petros
December 2, 2024 6:46 am

RFK Jrs wife is trying to make money off of his Make America Healthy Again campaign. Typical lowlife Democrat.

132andBush
132andBush
December 2, 2024 6:58 am

If it’s wheat the bag wt will be 80kg.
General rule of thumb:
3 bushels = 1 bag (volume)
12 bags/tonne wheat
15 bags/tonne barley, canola
18-20 bags/ tonne oats
11-12 bags/tonne lentils
50 bags/tonne political and administrative bullshit. (Aus)

Lawgi Dawes-Hall
Lawgi Dawes-Hall
December 2, 2024 7:24 am

What did a bag of super weigh? I want to say 90 but lbs sounds too light and kgs sounds too heavy. Anyway, I dropped a bag when loading the seeder and it was a lot heavier than a bag of barley.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 2, 2024 7:35 am

One thing I am sure of, is that the prosaic world as depicted by the dull and literal “sciency” types isn’t anything to chase after. Their dreary perception of existence is their own reward.

So, given a choice between hard uncomfortable facts and a warm comforting story, you’ll choose the nice narrative every time.

You and loads of other old women.

Lawgi Dawes-Hall
Lawgi Dawes-Hall
December 2, 2024 7:40 am

What do you make of McGilchrist, Dr BeauGan?

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
December 2, 2024 8:01 am

Sky News: Kash Patel is a controversial figure!

I don’t recall them ever saying this about Mayorkas, Schumer, Milley, Nadler, Pelosi, Comey, Wray, Yellen, Buttigieg, Granholm or Levine, to name just some.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 2, 2024 8:05 am

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The legacy meja deserves to die and it can’t come soon enough.

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Indolent
Indolent
December 2, 2024 8:05 am

The FBI is probably the most corrupt agency in the US (perhaps tied with DOJ) but this is how the Atlantic views the attempt to clean it up. Like choirboys under attack.

A Constitutional Crisis Greater Than Watergate

Indolent
Indolent
December 2, 2024 8:05 am

@EndWokeness

On July 6th, 2019 the FBI raided the townhouse of Jeffrey Epstein in NY.

Agents found a safe filled with CDs, passports, hard drives and more.

They found binders of CDs loaded with explicit photos of his underage victims (presumably clients too).

Total blackout by the FBI on this.

Indolent
Indolent
December 2, 2024 8:13 am

@bennyjohnson

Senator Marsha Blackburn: “Kash Patel has more experience than just about anybody coming into this position. He’s been a prosecutor… He’s been the Deputy DNI. He’s been the Chief of Staff at the Department of Defense. He has a well rounded background.”

Indolent
Indolent
December 2, 2024 8:17 am

@TomFitton

The Obama-Biden FBI literally engaged in a joint operation with Hillary Clinton campaign to create the Russia smears targeting RealDonaldTrump. (Jake was all in on this. Which is why he is nervous about Kash.)

Zippster
Zippster
December 2, 2024 8:19 am

This One Thing Has Changed Between Men And Women

Summary:** In this video titled “This One Thing Has Changed Between Men and Women,” the presenter reflects on the significant shifts in public perception regarding women over the last decade or more, particularly influenced by online discourse and the manosphere. He argues that while society still maintains some gynocentric attitudes, there has been a noteworthy increase in awareness among men that women are not perfect and can engage in harmful behaviors. This change, he believes, has been fueled by the internet and has allowed men to better navigate relationships and dating dynamics. The presenter predicts that these shifting perceptions will have further consequences in the near future, particularly in light of ongoing societal divides between men and women. — **Key Points:** 1. **Change in Public Perception**: – Over the last 10 to 15 years, the perception of women has evolved significantly. – The media historically portrayed men negatively while elevating women’s status. – The internet has contributed to a growing awareness among men regarding women’s flaws and behaviors. 2. **Manosphere Influence**: – The manosphere has played a crucial role in changing how men view women. – While it is a broad and varied community, it has encouraged open discussions about women’s behavior. 3. **Deconstruction of Perfection Narrative**: – Society’s long-held belief that women are angelic and cannot do wrong is being challenged. – Men are increasingly aware that women can engage in harmful behaviors, and that not every negative situation is the man’s fault. 4. **Political Implications**: – The election cycle, specifically men’s support for Donald Trump, reflects the growing discontent with negative portrayals of men and the overwhelming gynocentrism present in society. – Men are becoming more vocal about their experiences and perceptions. 5. **Influence on Relationships**: – The video discusses how the online discourse has provided men with tools to navigate dating and relationships more cautiously. – Awareness of women’s negative behaviors could lead to better decision-making in romantic pursuits. 6. **Greater Awareness Leads to Change**: – The emergence of social media and online platforms has allowed for greater discussion and acknowledgment of women’s misconduct. – Although society still supports many gynocentric structures, individual men are beginning to push back against these narratives. 7. **Future Predictions**: – The presenter anticipates a growing divide between men and women, predicting that tensions may escalate. – The awareness of women’s imperfections will likely continue to influence men’s actions and responses moving forward. 8. **Need for Ongoing Discussion**: – The presenter encourages continued discussions about these shifts and emphasizes the importance of the insights gained from shared experiences among men

Indolent
Indolent
December 2, 2024 8:25 am

She really comes out swinging. Nice to look at too.

@WesternLensman

@KatiePavlich scorches corrupt Andrew McCabe over his bashing of Kash Patel:

“He is one of the top people who has been has destroyed the reputation of the FBI…They’re conflating retribution with accountability.”

100% correct. This is brutal:

“First, let’s talk about former acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe. He was fired. He was fired for leaking information to the media. The inspector general of the Department of Justice referred him for criminal prosecution. He is one of the top people who has been has destroyed the reputation of the FBI over the past ten years. There’s been no accountability for him.”

“They’re conflating retribution with accountability. And Kash Patel not only has the experience on foreign policy, but also on domestic policy as well, with all of his work rooting out this corruption use for political purposes against political enemies inside the intelligence communities and on Capitol Hill.”

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
December 2, 2024 8:31 am

An obvious point for contemplation: do Western authorities — from politicians to the legal establishment, including police — actually care about their duty toward the public they are sworn to serve? Their loyalties are evidently not to country and citizenry. Michael Stürzenberger is certainly not the first person, nor will he be the last, to experience the trauma of violence at the hands of Muslim migrants.

https://jihadwatch.org/2024/12/germany-victim-of-muslim-stabbing-attack-fined-for-inciting-hatred-against-muslim-migrants

He was stabbed by a Muslim and because he said “Political Islam is the greatest threat to our security and freedom. If the responsible politicians and the mass media do not finally recognize this, there will probably be many more victims.” Initially sentenced to 6 months in prison for hate speech, it was downgraded to 3,600 Euros.

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Indolent
Indolent
December 2, 2024 8:41 am
Black Ball
Black Ball
December 2, 2024 8:44 am

Liverpool 2-0 Manchester City. Puts them 11 points up which we can only dream of. Just magnifique

Indolent
Indolent
December 2, 2024 8:49 am
Hugh
Hugh
December 2, 2024 8:57 am

given a choice between hard uncomfortable facts and a warm comforting story

False dichotomy. One can have both facts and stories. Facts need not necessarily be uncomfortable, and many stories are neither warm nor comforting.

Indolent
Indolent
December 2, 2024 8:58 am
bons
bons
December 2, 2024 9:05 am

I met my lady while visiting her farm as a youth

Her father and uncle were sewing wheat bags.

I was unable to lift a bag onto the truck.

Embarrassment.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 2, 2024 9:08 am

Chris Bowen breaks astonishingly astonishing news:

Australia’s rooftop solar revolution reaches astonishing new heights14 November 2024

More and more Australians are going solar and seeing the savings in their bills, as the rooftop solar revolution hits its four millionth installation.

One in three Aussie homes now have rooftop solar and we are on track for a near record of 3.15 gigawatts of capacity to be added just this year.

Two weeks later, more astonishment:

AEMO wants emergency powers to switch off solar in every state amid fears of ‘system collapse’

The Australian Energy Market Operator wants “emergency backstop” powers to switch off or turn down rooftop solar systems in every state.

AEMO says the powers are needed by next year for extreme situations as it grapples with ever-increasing amounts of rooftop solar output.

AEMO said the ever growing output from solar was posing an increasing threat to the safety and security of the grid because it was pushing out all other forms of generation that were needed to help keep the system stable.

And it warned that unless it had the power to reduce – or curtail – the amount of rooftop solar times, more drastic and damaging measures would need to be taken.

These could include increasing the voltage levels in parts of the poles-and-wires network to “deliberately” trip or curtail small-scale solar in some areas.

Trust me here, this is not a FIGJAM moment showcasing any rare and tremendous insight. This is a technically pissy, FMD, blindingly obvious, Electrical Engineering 101 outcome.

The problem now urgently confronting the AEMO Arts/Law community has repeatedly been pointed out by many, many dismal slide-rule autists such as myself over the past years, as the NEM has progressively struggled to physically accomodate rooftop supply. Leaving aside the technical signals (easily overlooked by administrators), in recent years this has been the ultimate cause of negative daytime electricity prices.

No doubt the Australian political and media communities are poised – like crouching jaguars – to pounce on the disconnect between Shitweasel Bowen and the laws of physics. Possibly also to wonder where we are going and whether we will actually like the destination.

Or possibly not.

Top Men.

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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 2, 2024 9:13 am

Comments, from the Sunday Times, on the article about the Toodyay businessman facing the courts, over the issue of the “rainbow serpent.”

What gets me, is when you see any happening on land be it planting tree’s along the river bed and the like, funny how they are white people , don’t see Indigenous people getting down and getting dirty, and that bloody serpent, man does he travel some distance, man, they are as always only after money…

This mythical serpent is no different to fairy tales told in families of every nationality. Just because it has been told over and over and passed down it is still just a fairy tale.

bons
bons
December 2, 2024 9:16 am

The extraordinary Jiyai Shin won her 65th golf tournament at the Heath yesterday. She is an android.

Meanwhile, my traitorous clubs will continue their well deserved banishment to the back of the garage where they belong. All golf club manufacturers are communists.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 2, 2024 9:30 am

What did a bag of super weigh? I want to say 90 but lbs sounds too light and kgs sounds too heavy. Anyway, I dropped a bag when loading the seeder and it was a lot heavier than a bag of barley

One thing I do NOT miss about running a farm, was loading bags of seed and super, into the combine.

Roger
Roger
December 2, 2024 9:45 am

The South Australian government is urgently seeking to have two mothballed diesel-powered electricity plants restarted amid escalating concerns that a new heavy-duty power cable will be finished even later than NSW’s Transgrid has admitted.

Financial Review

Dirty diesel, eh?
I thought SA ran on 100% renewables?

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Eyrie
Eyrie
December 2, 2024 9:55 am

Posted to the old OOT by mistake:

One of the favourites of S-F is pantropic augmentation to allow living on new worlds.
Nice story by Roger Zelazny “The Keys to December”. In the collection with the famous “Doors and Lamps” and ” A Rose for Ecclesiates”.

Roger
Roger
December 2, 2024 9:58 am

Of course, it’s possible that God both exists and doesn’t exist, simultaneously.

That’s not a logical statement.

See the law of non-contradiction, (Aristotle’s Metaphysics, not the Fargo episode):

“The most certain of all basic principles is that contradictory propositions are not true simultaneously.”

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 2, 2024 10:00 am

Nice to see the breast beating and wailing about Kash Patel as FBI Director.
He must be the right choice.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 2, 2024 10:02 am

This is a technically pissy, FMD, blindingly obvious, Electrical Engineering 101 outcome.

Unfortunately EE 101 tends to give hurty heads to the Top Men. Who are under the mistaken impression that they are the educated ones.

Scientists and engineers, I have found, have a far better grasp of arts and literature than the arts and literary ppl have of anything technical.

Seza
Seza
December 2, 2024 10:03 am

Dr Faustas on Solar Energy:-
We have too much household solar that needs to be curtailed, but they are still subsidizing new Solar Factories at large scale and subsidy cost. Surely they still run on the same sun schedule as rooftop – or if they are in WA, they can help between 3pm and 6pm AEDST -if you don’t mind spending billions on wires to link them to the eastern grid, along with the losses of 3,000 km of line.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 2, 2024 10:07 am

Of course, it’s possible that God both exists and doesn’t exist, simultaneously.

That’s not a logical statement.

Arky isn’t to be bound by such mundane fiddly things as logic. Or facts. He rises above them, like other Top Men.

Roger
Roger
December 2, 2024 10:09 am

The UK press is awash with rumours that Elon Musk is poised to become the major financial backer of Nigel Farage’s Reform Party, to the tune of US$100 million.

He really doesn’t like “two tier” Keir Starmer.

If true, expect a hullabaloo about foreign interference from both Labour & the Tories.

Of course, it could just be that the Establishment is venting its deepest imaginary fear – Farage & Musk joining forces.

Chuckle.

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Frank
Frank
December 2, 2024 10:12 am

I do love the term Shitweasel. So evocative, and apt.

P
P
December 2, 2024 10:14 am

With Advent 2024, the odd-numbered liturgical Cycle C begins. What does this entail?
With the first Sunday of Advent, a new liturgical year begins in the Catholic Church, with the readings corresponding to Cycle C of odd-numbered years. What does this liturgical practice entail?

I found this article from CNA very interesting.
I thought other Catholics here may also.

Anders
Anders
December 2, 2024 10:15 am

A range of articles being headlined on The Advertiser website, sounds like renewables are going swimmingly! Pity your crappy paper didn’t bother to cover the risks before Labor went headlong into this lunacy.

A new Dark Ages: Blackouts loom but gas offers energy crisis lifeline
Aussie households face being plunged into summer blackouts unless politicians and regulators take urgent action on gas supplies. See what the experts say needs to happen now.

‘Priced out of existence’: Blunt warning on energy costs
The soaring cost of energy is smashing both Aussie businesses and household budgets. See the alarming increase in gas costs being passed on from manufacturers to Aussie families.

We’re on a road to economic ruin and renewables won’t help
Australia’s small emissions footprint will make no measurable change to climate, but energy prices will change our living standards, writes Alexander Downer.

Rosie
Rosie
December 2, 2024 10:23 am

“man was the measure of all things’ was not received as a “hard, uncomfortable fact””
Exactly.
Some people are so enlightened.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 2, 2024 10:26 am

There are two distinct criteria for choosing a theory. One is Occam’s Razor: given two theories which are both compatible with the data, choose the simpler.
The other is The Great Jones’ Shaving Soap: given two theories which are both compatible with the data, choose the more comforting.

I’m an Occam man.

Roger
Roger
December 2, 2024 10:32 am

A range of articles being headlined on The Advertiser website, sounds like renewables are going swimmingly! Pity your crappy paper didn’t bother to cover the risks before Labor went headlong into this lunacy.

Critical thinking and post-modern activist journalism are rarely seen occupying the same space.

That being said, if The Advertiser has now gone sour on renewables then advocates for the latter are losing the propaganda war bigly as harsh reality intrudes into the argument.

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DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 2, 2024 10:42 am

That being said, if The Advertiser has now gone sour on renewables then advocates for the latter are losing the propaganda war bigly as harsh reality intrudes into the argument.

Harsh reality tends to do that. Much to the disapproval of the parasitic class.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 2, 2024 10:47 am

Too bad about all the wasted money, opportunity cost and damage to the real economy and the environment. Good that reality is finally being accepted though.

Roger
Roger
December 2, 2024 10:51 am

‘Lucky’ Chalmers’ spending spree fuels deficit explosion

Geoff Chambers, The Australian, 2nd December 2024

Jim Chalmers has added $104bn in spending while raising taxes by $44bn, squandered fiscal restraint opportunities and relied on luck, according to new analysis warning of deficit blowouts compared to May budget predictions. Updated forecasts by leading economist Chris Richardson show spending levels returning to Covid pandemic highs and an expectation cash headline deficits will total $220bn between now and mid-2028 amid “increasingly dodgy” off-budget expenditure.

After the Treasurer banked back-to-back surpluses totalling $37.9bn, driven primarily by war, migration and inflation factors, Mr Richardson has declared Australia’s “budgetary luck is running out” and is forecasting underlying cash deficits to be at least $10bn worse off by 2027-28…

Lucky Jim’s spending has also fueled inflation, something Albanese can’t grasp even though he has an Economics degree.

Truly the most irresponsible government since Whitlam’s.

Hugh
Hugh
December 2, 2024 11:05 am

There are two distinct criteria for choosing a theory. One is Occam’s Razor: given two theories which are both compatible with the data, choose the simpler.

The other is The Great Jones’ Shaving Soap: given two theories which are both compatible with the data, choose the more comforting.

As Dover said, the idea that we are accountable before God is not especially comforting.

Further, when it comes to theories of existence and ultimate truth, it is not immediately clear to me which is the simplest.

Roger
Roger
December 2, 2024 11:07 am

Whyalla wipeout:

ALP’s renewables obsession a model of self-harm

Jenny George, The Australian, 30th November 2024

The Labor government has made clear it doesn’t intend any change to its renewables energy transition. The threat of blackouts just a few days ago sounded an early and ominous warning. It would have been sensible to have the transition plan reviewed by an independent expert panel, as happened in NSW when Premier Chris Minns was elected. Those who had hoped for a plan B would be disappointed that it wasn’t to be.

Labor’s intransigence means we are embarking on a transformation of our energy system with unresolved policy issues and questions left unanswered. This is not an experiment. The energy transition has long-term consequences.

BlueScope is a good example of the problems facing the manufacturing industry. With high energy costs, unrealistic expectations about green steel and ongoing issues with dumped imports, any additional imposts under Labor’s safeguard mechanism will make it only harder for domestic steelmaking to remain competitive.

The situation is problematic enough with the precarious position of the Whyalla steelworks. With Donald Trump’s proposed tariff policies, why wouldn’t BlueScope look to future investment in its US operations?

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Delta A
Delta A
December 2, 2024 11:12 am

Well, that didn’t go as I’d intended.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
December 2, 2024 11:14 am

FREE SPEECH CRACKDOWN: EXPECT MORE HOUSE RAIDS AS GERMANY’S LEFT MOVES TO SUPERCHARGE LAW ON ‘INSULTING’ POLITICIANS

The ruling far-left SPD party wants to make it much easier for police to raid and prosecute Germans who “insult” politicians

Following a wave of house raids and arrests against those who “insult” politicians in the German government, the ruling far-left Social Democrats (SPD) are doubling down and moving to make it even easier to target speech violations and insults while also increasing punishments — despite growing criticism.

https://x.com/RMXnews/status/1861376239749009503

BREAKING: A German man, Paul S., was hit with a €5,000 fine for calling a judge “obviously mentally disturbed.”

The judge issued no jail time to a 30-year-old Syrian migrant who raped a 15-year-old German girl while she was walking home in Osnabrück. The migrant, who was drunk during the incident, was only given probation.

The migrant was also fined €3,000. When Paul S. sent an email to the judge complaining about the sentence, he was convicted and hit with nearly double the fine as the migrant rapist.

The Wiesbaden district court judge told the migrant during the trial: “You are well on your way to becoming a completely normal citizen here.”

The judge also said verbatim that the rape intensity was “at the lower end.”

Paul S. appealed the fine but still has to pay one-third of the original €5,000 for “insulting” the judge.

?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 2, 2024 11:25 am

The climate fraud is getting even crazier.

Taliban Terrorists Demand Role in All Future U.N. Climate Talks (1 Dec)

Shonks, crooks, standover men and now terrorists.

Arky
December 2, 2024 11:40 am

exist

verb

3rd person present: exist

have objective reality or being

..

objective

adjectiveUK   

Based on real facts and not influenced by personal beliefs and feelings.

Of course, when the topic of discussion is belief, it’s a fallacy to drag mundane and boring old objectivity into it, as seen from the nest of definitions above.
Recent events, by the way, indicate that the scientists aren’t particularly good at keeping their personal feelings and beliefs, in particular their political beliefs, out of their findings. See climate “science”.
It’s a silly vanity to insist your own subjective beliefs are, in fact and most conveniently, the actual objective truth through which everyone who is “being scientific” must view “reality”.

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shatterzzz
December 2, 2024 11:40 am

Chrissie tree .. let the decorating commence ..!

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Tom
Tom
December 2, 2024 12:02 pm

As predicted (Paywallian):

President Biden on Sunday pardoned his son Hunter Biden, wiping away his criminal convictions on tax and gun charges despite saying earlier this year he wouldn’t grant such a reprieve.

Before he leaves office in January, I predict Biden will also pardon other members of his family to protect them from criminal prosecution for treason.

Kneel
Kneel
December 2, 2024 12:12 pm

“Sky News: Kash Patel is a controversial figure!”

The deep state is terrified by Kash – he knows where the bodies are buried, he has a shovel and he’s not afraid to use it.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 2, 2024 12:13 pm

Love is love.

Underwater Feminism (2 Dec)

On September 14, 2021, two Polish female professors headed to the Great Salt Lake in Utah to marry some brine shrimp in an ecosexual wedding.

Presided over by Bonnie Baxter PhD, a biology professor at Westminster University in nearby Salt Lake City, the two Polish professor brides in clinging wedding dresses approached holding hands and together with the rest of the wedding party which included a sexologist and Elizabeth Stephens, the chair of UC Santa Cruz’s Art Department, who helped create the ‘Ecosexual’ movement, went into the lake to marry the shrimp through an exchange of psychic vows.

As bizarre as the officially titled ‘Cyber Wedding to the Brine Shrimp’ might seem, it involved the collaboration of academics from at least four universities, and sponsorship by the Polish Cultural Institute of New York, which operates under the Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

It’s long, excellent and by Daniel Greenfield so well worth RTWTing.

P
P
December 2, 2024 12:14 pm

Democrat Senator Chris Murphy Vows to Organize and Lead the Trump Resistance Movement in Senate
December 1, 2024 | – Sundance

When asked if Democrat Senator Chris Murphy knows how he will vote on Kash Patel, if nominated, Senator Murphy says not only is he a “no,” but he will also organize and lead the upper chamber effort against President Trump’s nominees.  

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 2, 2024 12:17 pm

The UK press is awash with rumours that Elon Musk is poised to become the major financial backer of Nigel Farage’s Reform Party, to the tune of US$100 million.

It sure is awash – it chimes nicely with the Starmer Government falling into the pit of failure.

The impact of that sort of money (and the personal influence support Musk brings) on the results of a FPTP election is potentially enough to take Reform to Government.

Sounds implausible, but the 2024 General Election results show the extreme distribution sensitivity between votes and seats:

Labour 9.7m votes 411 seats

Torries 6.8m votes 121 seats

LDP 3.5m votes 72 seats

Reform 4.1m votes 5 seats

Potential for a big increase in seats if a Musk/Farage team broadens that voter base only marginally across the board.

Musk better do his due diligence on Farage’s past. The Dirt Machines will be in overdrive (not that they exactly slumbered earlier this year).

Arky
December 2, 2024 12:26 pm

It’s a joke today to speak of objectivity.
We know that everyone, everyone is busy pushing their subjective interests, and building their personal view of reality based upon those interests.

The media utterly failed the objectivity test when the following occurred:
A protest and counter protest attended by left and right early in Trumps first presidency. He stated that there were “good people on both sides”.
Rather than interpret this as roughly meaning that although Trump represented Republicans, he believed that there were good people on the left, the media pointed at some clowns with tiki torches and claimed Trump was stating the far right were “good”.
Reality is complex and presents an observer with a multitude of facts to choose and interpret. Objectivity isn’t in the care taken in choosing, but in knowing that you too have beliefs and biases that will have influenced your choice, and actively countering them. Taking active steps to identify and counter your own biases.
There is little doubt that the religious have biases. But in today’s secular society they are all too aware of them. How could they not be? But, ahh, the atheists. After more than a century of this war on Christian belief, I think it is the atheists who are due for a bout of extreme self examination. They show little sign of doing so, or in many cases of even being able to do so.
So much for “objectivity”.

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Lawgi Dawes-Hall
Lawgi Dawes-Hall
December 2, 2024 12:33 pm

There are two distinct criteria for choosing a theory. One is Occam’s Razor: given two theories which are both compatible with the data, choose the simpler.

The other is The Great Jones’ Shaving Soap: given two theories which are both compatible with the data, choose the more comforting.

I’m an Occam man

This kind of reminds me of stats for biomedical students: Assume you have two hypotheses. Which is fair enough in a stats class but skips over the thorny question of how hypotheses are generated. Francis Crick (I think) quipped to the effect that a scientist has to remember that most (?) facts are wrong, and a genuinely new theory should not be expected to reconcile all extant facts.

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Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
December 2, 2024 12:36 pm

Apology – Can’t remember if I’ve already posted this and/or it has already been discussed.

Is Your Family Eating This Fertility-Killing Additive?

Nation First by George Christensen looks at the roll-out of Bovaer in the cattle sector and what it could mean for consumers.

Dear friend, 

Do you trust the food on your plate? You shouldn’t. Right now, you and I are part of a global experiment. A potentially toxic additive called Bovaer is being slipped into the food supply, and no one asked you if that was okay.

They claim it’s about cutting methane emissions. But here’s the ugly truth: studies show the active ingredient—3-nitrooxypropanol (3-NOP)—may damage male fertility. Reduced sperm count. Shrunken testicles. Impaired sperm motility. This is serious. And they don’t care. No labels. No warnings. Nothing. You’re not a consumer to them—you’re a test subject.

Bovaer may damage male fertility, including reducing sperm count.

This additive is being used worldwide without labels or warnings.

Australia is a key player, with Coles and MLA driving its use.

Billionaires like Bill Gates are pushing these schemes.

We must demand transparency and independent safety studies.

Australia: The Frontline of the Global Agenda

Here in AustraliaColes is feeding this poison to cattle and calling it “sustainability.” Let me tell you something: when they say “sustainability,” what they really mean is control. Control over you. Control over me. And you and I both know that word has been hijacked by corporate overlords to push their greenwashing schemes.

But this isn’t just ColesMeat & Livestock Australia (MLA)—a government-mandated, levy-funded operation—is fully on board. They ran trials, they hyped the results, and now they’re rolling it out as the next big thing to “save the planet.” Methane emissions are down, they say. Cattle fatten up faster, they say. But let me ask you this: what happens when that beef ends up on your dinner table?

They’ve seen the studies. They know about the fertility risks. But instead of pressing pause, they’ve hit the gas. Because they think you and I are too busy, too distracted, or too dumb to care. Well, I care. And if you care about your family’s health, you should too.

This Isn’t Just Australia—It’s Everywhere

Make no mistake: Australia is just the start. This is global. Bovaer is already being used in over 50 countries. In the UK, large dairy company, Arla Foods, is feeding this additive to cows that produce Lurpak butter and Cravendale milk. Major British supermarkets like Tesco and Aldi are backing it.

And they’re not stopping there. The manufacturers for Bovaer say it is now “authorized and available for sale” in over 55 countries, including the U.S.A.BrazilCanada, and Turkey. They’re even expanding into Asia. This isn’t a trial run—this is a global takeover of the protein food supply.

And it’s a takeover without transparency because it’s likely that you’ll never know this stuff is actually in your food. In fact, you might already be consuming products linked to Bovaer, because they’re not labelling it. They’re keeping you in the dark, hoping you won’t ask questions.

And when people like you or me do ask? They dismiss us. Arla called concerns about Bovaer “misinformation.” Sound familiar? It’s the same playbook they used during the pandemic. “Trust the science,” they say. But whose science? Theirs. Bought and paid for by the corporations lining their pockets with this scam.

(Snip)

The Silence Is Deafening

They know the dangers. They know the risks. But instead of coming clean, they’ve doubled down on secrecy. Coles won’t label Bovaer-fed beef. Arlawon’t admit to the fertility concerns. And regulators like the UK’s Food Standards Agency? They’re calling this additive “safe” while conveniently ignoring the warnings that the scientific data is showing.

This is a coordinated cover-up. A betrayal of trust. And it’s happening right under our noses.

What Can You and I Do?

We don’t have to take this lying down. You and I can demand accountability. We need:

Clear labels on every product that comes from Bovaer-fed livestock.

Independent studies—real ones, not corporate-funded propaganda—that either prove this additive is safe for humans, or prove it should be taken off the market.

And if they can’t deliver these things, we need to say no.

This is a fight for families the world over. It’s about you, me, and every single person who deserves to know what’s in their food.

The Bottom Line

They say Bovaer will save the planet. But at what cost? Fertility risks, secrecy, and control by billionaire elites. This isn’t just about food—it’s about freedom. Your freedom to choose what you eat. Your right to protect your family’s health.

I’m not going to sit quietly while they gamble with our future. And neither should you. Let’s stand together and demand the truth—before it’s too late.

Until next time, God bless you, your family and nation.

Roger
Roger
December 2, 2024 12:38 pm

Francis Crick (I think) quipped to the effect that a scientist has to remember that most (?) facts are wrong, and a genuinely new theory should not be expected reconcile all extant facts.

But it should explain the data better than any competing theory.
Until the day when a better theory is proposed.
This is how science is meant to progress.
In theory.
😀

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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 2, 2024 12:48 pm

ADF sex offenders to be targeted in royal commission responseBen Packham
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The Albanese government has given the green light to a sweeping crackdown on sexual violence in the Australian Defence Force as it rejects a push for soldiers injured in training to receive the same compensation as those hurt in war.
In its response to the Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicide released on Monday, the government has also put off a decision on equalising rebates for veterans’ healthcare with those under the National Disability Insurance Scheme, and provided only “in-principle” agreement to establishing a new brain injury program.
The government agreed with the overwhelming majority of the royal commission’s 122 recommendations, committing to a new formal inquiry into sexual violence in the ADF, and new mandatory discharge rules for personnel convicted of sexual offences.
A new “presumption” of discharge will also be introduced for ADF personnel found to have engaged in certain types of sexual misconduct, including sexual assault, sexual harassment, obscene conduct and “intimate image abuse”, while new workplace protections will be provided to victims of sexual misconduct.
“Sexual misconduct and unacceptable behaviour have no place in Defence. The rates of sexual violence being reported in the ADF are completely unacceptable,” the government said in its response.
A new statutory organisation will be established to oversee “enduring and systemic reform” to prevent veterans’ suicide, while new “wellbeing” agency will set up within the Department of Veterans’ Affairs.
The royal commission found DVA was not, in its current form, capable of delivering optimal support to veterans, and that the department, together with successive governments, the ADF and the Department of Defence, had failed to provide adequate support to those who had served their country.
It noted that 1677 serving and former serving defence personnel had died by suicide between 1997 and 2021 – more than 20-times the number killed in active duty over the same period.
The government rejected only one of the royal commission’s recommendations – that it remove the so-called “service differential” for permanent impairment that sees higher payouts for those injured during operational service than those injured during training.
“The government acknowledges there are differing views in the veteran community about the service differential,” it said.
“It notes that while all veterans, including reservists, are able to access support and assistance for all conditions linked to their service through DVA, the service differential is a long-standing feature of Australia’s support for veterans which sees higher levels of compensation provided for injuries or illness incurred in operational type service.”
The government “noted”, without agreeing or disagreeing, the royal commission’s recommendation for the fees paid for veterans’ health care, including consultations with psychologists and psychiatrists, be boosted to the same level as those for NDIS recipients.
It acknowledged the fee gap “can have a negative impact on access for veterans”, and agreed there was a need to consider veteran health care pricing arrangements. It said the recommendation would, in part, be considered in the context of wider changes to health and aged care support.

Kneel
Kneel
December 2, 2024 1:23 pm

“The royal commission found DVA was not, in its current form, capable of delivering optimal support to veterans, and that the department, together with successive governments, the ADF and the Department of Defence, had failed to provide adequate support to those who had served their country.

Completely and utterly unacceptable.
I know – we can get the extra money needed from an (additional) tax on parliamentary superannuation payments – won’t cost a single vote!

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Arky
December 2, 2024 2:06 pm

While continue 

grammar.

with your pseudo philosophizing

ad hom

I just finished reading a large 

review article

tautology.

on coffee consumption. 

You still don’t get it, you waste far too much time going down rabbit holes that you lose your perspective. 

grammar, ad hom, relevance.

Subjectivity is part and parcel of our cognition. As if that is a revelation.

Straw man.

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Winston Smith
Winston Smith
December 2, 2024 2:18 pm

Democrat Strategist Claims US Military Will Shoot Her When She Protests Mass Deportations

Where did this hysteria on the part of the Democrats come from? I don’t understand it. Is it just this generation of women, because I can’t remember any others behaving like this. My sisters would never behave like this, nor any other woman I’m related to.
Perhaps the lady NewCats can explain because I’m genuinely nonplussed by the level of out of controlness in the female demographic.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/12/democrat-strategist-claims-us-military-will-shoot-her/

I don’t think she understands the word ‘treason’. I also don’t think she realises that the Democrats LOST THE ELECTION, and her wants and feelings are of no consequence.

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Eyrie
Eyrie
December 2, 2024 2:21 pm

Rather than interpret this as roughly meaning that although Trump represented Republicans, he believed that there were good people on the left, the media pointed at some clowns with tiki torches and claimed Trump was stating the far right were “good”.

It is taken as a given that the left is “good” (can do no wrong) ?so he must have been referring to the right.

JC
JC
December 2, 2024 2:23 pm

This is going to work out really well.

Obviously, paternity leave is a step too far.

Belgium Law Grants Prostitutes Access to State Benefits, Maternity Leave, Legal Contracts

Damon
Damon
December 2, 2024 2:24 pm

So the Biden criminal family makes millions and gets off scot free.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 2, 2024 2:25 pm

We have too much household solar that needs to be curtailed, but they are still subsidizing new Solar Factories at large scale and subsidy cost. Surely they still run on the same sun schedule as rooftop…

The paradox is that the rooftop solar needs to be curtailed to make room for grid-scale solar (and associated batteries, if they come at all).

Renewables investors are not keen to pony up with the big dough – only to have to compete with rooftop aggregators for daytime market space. Or compete with each other in the after-dark battery market.

A field of unintended consequences, populated by grifters and naïfs.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
December 2, 2024 2:29 pm

John H:

If you interested in an up to date book on paleoanthropology The World Before Us by Tom Highham is worth a read.

Does it mention that Aboriginals had a flourishing space program 200,000 years ago?
If not, it will never sell.
Well, it won’t sell outside public libraries and the shattered remnants of their spacefaring journeys and their colonies on Tau Ceti.

Kneel
Kneel
December 2, 2024 2:33 pm

“Rather than interpret this as roughly meaning that although Trump represented Republicans, he believed that there were good people on the left, the media pointed at some clowns with tiki torches and claimed Trump was stating the far right were “good”.

It is taken as a given that the left is “good” (can do no wrong) ?so he must have been referring to the right.”

And, of course, the “fine people” comment was taken completely out of context – Trump immediately followed this with “And I’m not talking about the Nazi’s and white supremacists, because they should be condemned utterly.”
None of the yellow-stream media report this, even when brought to their attention. Disgusting. Trump is dead-on to call them out as “fake news”.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
December 2, 2024 2:39 pm

Austria: 19 migrants gang-raped 12-year-old girl repeatedly over the course of months

https://jihadwatch.org/2024/12/austria-19-migrants-gang-raped-12-year-old-girl-repeatedly-over-the-course-of-months

There are so very many stories like this. They lead to the inevitable question: why does the Austrian government continue to inflict these migrants upon the native population? Why do other European governments do so as well?

Note also that Ahmad claims that the victim wanted to have sexual relations with him. This is a constant pattern. Muslim migrant rapists in Europe come into the continent thinking that all the women are whores and will have sex with them on demand, and when they’re accused of rape, they play the victim themselves, claiming that the actual victim initiated the whole thing and is responsible for it. Take responsibility for their own actions? That never happens.

I can understand the government – cowardly dhimmis that they are – refuse to do anything about this, but when are the going to allow the fathers and brothers of these girls to deal with these animals as they would be dealt with in their own nations and cultures?

Morsie
Morsie
December 2, 2024 2:42 pm

Rooftop solar – our battery is full and we are pumping 4,4KW into the grid.I am sure its not needed.
We have the battery to power my wife’s inflatable mattress and hospital bed in the event of a blackout.Battery should be good for a few hours.
I think we now get 5c a KW so its not economic.
Paying it off over 5 years interest free.

John H.
John H.
December 2, 2024 2:43 pm

Winston Smith

 December 2, 2024 2:29 pm

John H:

If you interested in an up to date book on paleoanthropology The World Before Us by Tom Highham is worth a read.

Does it mention that Aboriginals had a flourishing space program 200,000 years ago?

If not, it will never sell.

Well, it won’t sell outside public libraries and the shattered remnants of their spacefaring journeys and their colonies on Tau Ceti.

Winston I just finished reading it. It raises some interesting questions about the impact of Denisovan genes but activists have so much prohibited the acquisition of DNA further research is near futile. Generally, ~50,000 year with strong genetic linkages to PNG.

Some Brits wrote that aborigines were the most backward people they had ever encountered, which is remarkable given how close Ireland is. IIRC Darwin compared them to the Fuegians living a wretched existed at the asshole of S. America.

Now for the book on slime but first I must wipe out a few NORK tanks.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
December 2, 2024 2:53 pm

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/12/not-transgender-women.php

This is lovely:

Actual women such as Riley Gaines, Paige Spiranac, J. K. Rowling, and the female Israel soldiers Steve helpfully displays each week, just got the news from the New York Times that they should be known as “non-transgender women.” This drew flak from tennis great Martina Navratilova, British Olympian Sharron Davies, and Rep. Nancy Mace, among others. The dynamics going on here will be of interest to all people.

Or….

To prevent the “not-un” formulation, Orwell suggest memorizing this phrase: “a not unblack dog was chasing a not unsmall rabbit across a not ungreen field.” For their part, the “not transgender woman” crowd might buy a can of spray paint and find a retaining wall for their writing. That’s the level they’re on.

Viva
Viva
December 2, 2024 2:59 pm

Testing

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 2, 2024 3:07 pm

Lidia Thorpe issues public ‘apology’ after Pauline Hanson threatened to SUE her over ‘convicted racist’ comment

  • Lidia Thorpe apologised to Pauline Hanson
  • She had called her a ‘convicted racist’

Daily Mail.

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 2, 2024 3:09 pm

Father and brothers of one of the girls that was abused in Rotherham beat pizz and pickhandles out of a couple the abusers, and were fined for taking the law into their own hands.

Dead men tell no tales and pigs is good.

Viva
Viva
December 2, 2024 3:12 pm

Of course, it’s possible that God both exists and doesn’t exist, simultaneously.

Congratulations Arky. Famed Sufi philosopher (“The Greatest Master”) agrees with you as shown in these extracts from

https://www.thecollector.com/ibn-arabi-existence-vs-non-existence/

But God is infinite, unlimited, and there is no differentiation whatsoever in His Essence. So, when we say God is one, we cannot understand that to mean that God is one thing. He is not an entity or a thing that we can define or know by the specific limitations of its quiddity. He has no whatness, which is precisely why the Divine Essence in itself cannot be defined or known. So, to ask ‘what is God?’ is to misunderstand His Essence. This question through which we try to understand God actually hinders our understanding, because we cannot ask it without presupposing that God is limited. So is the case when we ponder whether or not God exists, for the question already presupposes thinghood and, thus, limitation.

God is not a thing or an entity that exists or doesn’t exist. The question presupposes a definition, an answer to the previous question regarding God’s whatness, based on which we can ask whether it exists or not. All these questions are futile when we stop viewing God as an entity or a thing.

As to Roger’s objection in terms of logic:

Human reason depends on what can be called black or white logic. It is a logic that comprehends no contradiction, but rather proves its postulates by disproving their opposites. Human demonstrative reason cannot comprehend Ibn Arabi’s black and white knowledge, a knowledge that unifies opposites, much like the Yin and Yang principle in Eastern traditions.

That does not mean, however, that Ibn Arabi condemned reason; rather, he finds it incapable of grasping a reality that transcends it, such as the reality of God. He does not arrive at the knowledge he presents to us in his works through rational means, but through a mystical epistemology that allows him to experience God’s unity, and not merely conceptualize it.

 

Kneel
Kneel
December 2, 2024 3:13 pm

Father and brothers of one of the girls that was abused in Rotherham beat pizz and pickhandles out of a couple the abusers, and were fined for taking the law into their own hands.”

Is there a gofundme for these guys?

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 2, 2024 3:15 pm

Albo v Plibbers in Teh Paywallian. 568 comments and counting. The drums are beating.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 2, 2024 3:32 pm

Roger

 December 2, 2024 10:09 am

The UK press is awash with rumours that Elon Musk is poised to become the major financial backer of Nigel Farage’s Reform Party, to the tune of US$100 million.

He really doesn’t like “two tier” Keir Starmer.

If true, expect a hullabaloo about foreign interference from both Labour & the Tories.

Of course, they ceded the high moral ground on this one when they despatched Cool Brittannia operatives to the New World to lecture rednecks about voting for Orange Hitler.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 2, 2024 3:35 pm

Pubs group apologises for Australia Day ‘ban’

Hospitality giant Australian Venue Co has apologised for directing the managers of more than 200 pubs under its portfolio to abstain from Australia Day celebrations.

In a previous statement an AVC spokesperson said the company had “decided not to specifically celebrate a day that causes hurt for some of our patrons”, but quickly walked back its comments by Monday afternoon.

“We can see that our comments on the weekend have caused both concern and confusion. We sincerely regret that – our purpose is to reinforce community in our venues, not divide it,” an AVC spokesperson said.

“It is not for us to tell anyone whether or how to celebrate Australia Day. We acknowledge that and we apologise for our comments. It certainly wasn’t our intention to offend anyone.

“We employ 9600 people across the country. And we welcome 15 million patrons each year to our venues. Across our community of team members and patrons, many different views are held and we acknowledge that. 

“Whether you choose to celebrate Australia Day or not, everyone is welcome in our pubs, always. We have been, and are always, open over Australia Day and we continue to book events for patrons”

AVC is a subsidiary of the foreign private equity firm PAG, which recently contemplated offloading the restaurant and pub group.

Oz

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 2, 2024 3:43 pm

Comedy news (the Hun):

Police are investigating a double shooting after they were called to a house on Parson St in Rye over reports of an altercation about 4am on Monday.

Two intruders, believed to be a man and a woman, smashed their way into the home brandishing a rifle.

Okay. Not funny.

The Herald Sun has been told that once inside, the woman beat one of the residents with a baton and demanded he hand over his wallet and other personal items while rummaging through drawers.

The Herald Sun has been told that resident, a 29-year-old Rye man, shot the woman dead during the ordeal.

That’s a bit better…

It is understood that the man who broke into the home fatally shot the 29-year-old moments later, before fleeing in a car toward Fern Grove.

A bit each way now…

Police believe the group knew one another and that the attack was targeted.

Ah. Scrotes vs scrotes then. Now that’s funny.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 2, 2024 3:43 pm

Albo v Plibbers in Teh Paywallian. 568 comments and counting. The drums are beating.

And the knives are sharpening – the political killing season is upon us.

The Sleaze is hated by many in his Cabinet. Blackout Bowen even more.

Shitweasle – that suits so much.

John H.
John H.
December 2, 2024 3:51 pm
Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
December 2, 2024 3:52 pm

Sky News had an academic called Dr. Harry Melkonian on to discuss Trump’s picks for the new admin. It was bleeding obvious that he was pushing the “controversial” line, and no surprise that he seems to be a favourite of the ABC.

Nothing controversial about Kamala Harris being “qualified” to be President, oh no!

The misinformation/disinformation daily spin cycle of the MSM makes complete farce of all the concern trolling that they – and the usual pollie suspects do on the subject.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
December 2, 2024 3:55 pm

Albo v Plibbers in Teh Paywallian. 568 comments and counting. The drums are beating.

Albo or Plibeserk? Is that the best the ALP can cough up? Probably.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
December 2, 2024 4:28 pm

Well strike me with a feather ….

Pubs group apologises for Australia Day ‘ban’

James Dowling

Hospitality giant Australian Venue Co has apologised for directing the managers of more than 200 pubs under its portfolio to abstain from Australia Day celebrations.

In a previous statement an AVC spokesperson said the company had “decided not to specifically celebrate a day that causes hurt for some of our patrons”, but quickly walked back its comments by Monday afternoon.

“We can see that our comments on the weekend have caused both concern and confusion. We sincerely regret that – our purpose is to reinforce community in our venues, not divide it,” an AVC spokesperson said.

“It is not for us to tell anyone whether or how to celebrate Australia Day. We acknowledge that and we apologise for our comments. It certainly wasn’t our intention to offend anyone.

“We employ 9600 people across the country. And we welcome 15 million patrons each year to our venues. Across our community of team members and patrons, many different views are held and we acknowledge that. 

“Whether you choose to celebrate Australia Day or not, everyone is welcome in our pubs, always. We have been, and are always, open over Australia Day and we continue to book events for patrons”

AVC is a subsidiary of the foreign private equity firm PAG, which recently contemplated offloading the restaurant and pub group.

Makka
Makka
December 2, 2024 4:35 pm

Lovely painting. Saw this for real in the Tate circa 1990 when they had a yuuge Constable / JMW Turner exhibit. Gazed at those for hours.Glorious paintings from these Masters.

mem
mem
December 2, 2024 4:54 pm

shitweasel (plural shitweasels) (vulgar, slang, humorous) A deceitful and contemptible person.
Yep. That describes Blackout perfectly. He even looks the part.

Arky
December 2, 2024 4:57 pm

It’s a neat three card monte trick.
You have your bag man son brought up on minor charges for some stupid shit.
Then you use that as an excuse to give him a blanket pardon for everything he “might” have done in the last ten years.
The neat tricks are always the simple ones.

Makka
Makka
December 2, 2024 5:05 pm

Movie: Conclave- woke bs.

Lawgi Dawes-Hall
Lawgi Dawes-Hall
December 2, 2024 5:16 pm

I seriously doubt that Gough would have pissed up against the wall, as much tax money as our current inept regime.

The departments in the Whitlam-Barnard ministry read like the very model of sanity. Early days, but. Fair bit of padding in St Gough’s last ministry.

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 2, 2024 5:18 pm

Then you use that as an excuse to give him a blanket pardon for everything he “might” have done in the last ten years.
?
I’d like to think that SCOTUS might rule that you can only be pardoned for crimes for which you have been charged, tried and convicted.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
December 2, 2024 5:20 pm

The Australian Energy Market Operator wants “emergency backstop” powers to switch off or turn down rooftop solar systems in every state.

Tired of winning yet?

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 2, 2024 5:21 pm

I’m surprised scumbag Joe hasn’t included any crimes Hunter might commit in the future.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 2, 2024 5:25 pm

He does not arrive at the knowledge he presents to us in his works through rational means, but through a mystical epistemology that allows him to experience God’s unity, and not merely conceptualize it.

This is known in the West too, where it is called “bullshit”.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 2, 2024 5:28 pm

Hospitality giant Australian Venue Co has apologised for directing the managers of more than 200 pubs under its portfolio to abstain from Australia Day celebrations.

This mob is owned by an Asian conglomerate.

The woke poo dented CEO may have just learnt a lesson about Aussies.

I’ve seen and saved the list of their pubs – a few I have sipped in. Never to pass through their doors again.

Roger
Roger
December 2, 2024 5:36 pm

He does not arrive at the knowledge he presents to us in his works through rational means, but through a mystical epistemology that allows him to experience God’s unity, and not merely conceptualize it.

That may explain why his theology was so amiss.

calli
calli
December 2, 2024 5:45 pm

Here are the people who thought it would be a great idea to ban Australia Day celebrations in their pubs.

The CEO’s history is interesting. One organisation rang a bell. Spotless. I seem to recall a connection there with the Labor Party, for some reason Nifty came to mind.

Bazinga
Bazinga
December 2, 2024 5:49 pm

AVC fails to read the room. Whether indiginies like it or not, they too are Australian (most do like it).

This just in, rap and hip hop fail to evolve lyrically because for the next 4 years at least “woke” and “broke” will always be rhymed together.

John H.
John H.
December 2, 2024 5:49 pm

calli

 December 2, 2024 5:45 pm

Here are the people who thought it would be a great idea to ban Australia Day celebrations in their pubs.

The CEO’s history is interesting. One organisation rang a bell. Spotless. I seem to recall a connection there with the Labor Party, for some reason Nifty came to mind.

Ironically there is a British crime drama,”Spotless”, which is about a cleaning company that cleans crime scenes and becomes dominated by a leading criminal gang in London.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 2, 2024 5:57 pm

Cleanevent and the Shorten secret deal?

Roger
Roger
December 2, 2024 5:59 pm

Here are the people who thought it would be a great idea to ban Australia Day celebrations in their pubs.

I note they have a “Chief People Officer.”

Sounds like an Orwellian euphemism.

It reminds me of an institution I once banked with which had a “Client Retention Officer.”

They sprang into action after I closed the accounts and went elsewhere, having spent weeks trying to get them to rectify the issue.

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calli
calli
December 2, 2024 6:01 pm

No Milt. I’m going back a long way here. It was something to do with contracts with hospitals and government offices. Joh or Rabz might know.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 2, 2024 6:02 pm

I know Wran had a cleaning company

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 2, 2024 6:02 pm

Certainly NSW Schools

Indolent
Indolent
December 2, 2024 6:03 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
December 2, 2024 6:09 pm

Spotless picks up a lot of the big government contracts. Made the press here taking over a large hospital catering operation. Highly unionised workforce – MWU. Expect this would raise Liar ears.

Indolent
Indolent
December 2, 2024 6:11 pm
Indolent
Indolent
December 2, 2024 6:13 pm
Indolent
Indolent
December 2, 2024 6:16 pm
Indolent
Indolent
December 2, 2024 6:22 pm

@JackPosobiec

Hold on a second

The Hunter pardon covers ANY offenses he committed from 2014-2024

What the funk?

Never seen anything like this

Completely lawless administration

Meme

Tom
Tom
December 2, 2024 6:26 pm

Peta Credlin on Sky tipping a late March federal election, following the West Australian state election on Saturday March 8 (a likely ALP bloodbath), but before a new horror federal budget with escalating deficits for the next decade and a large consumer bombshell called the Default Market Offer, due in late March, which will set in stone a massive increase in electricity prices.

Albo has very few options. There’s a real prospect of a Labor annihilation because Chalmers has worsened the budget position by around $60 billion per annum with inflationary government spending out of control.

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Black Ball
Black Ball
December 2, 2024 6:32 pm

but before a new horror federal budget with escalating deficits for the next decade

Mmmyes Tom but be assured that Dim Chalmers has given us 2 budget surpluses.
Top Men.

calli
calli
December 2, 2024 6:34 pm

I’m curious about how a pardon can be given for crimes committed prior to gaining office.

Is this because Hunter’s criminal behaviour started in 2014?

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 2, 2024 6:34 pm
Roger
Roger
December 2, 2024 6:39 pm

Spotless Group has been ordered to pay $60,000 in damages to 14 former employees for breaching their privacy rights when it paid for them to join a union without their consent.

I’ll bet Spotless had a “Chief People Officer” too.

Zippster
Zippster
December 2, 2024 6:44 pm

‘Pushed to the extreme’: Warning over porn star’s 1000-man sex act
A woman who is currently in “training” for her world record attempt of sleeping with 1000 men in 24 hours has sparked health concerns.

Health concerns have been raised for a porn star recruiting 1000 guys to take part in her world record attempt at sleeping with the most men in 24 hours. 
British adult entertainer Lily Phillips recently began taking applications for the “record breaking event of the year”, which is currently set to take place in January.
The current record holder is Lisa Sparks, an adult film star who bedded 919 men in one dayat a sex industry event in Poland back in 2004.
At the time, Sparks reportedly said she “had a blast but was in pain for a week afterwards”.
Phillips, 23, however has declared she’s been “in training” for several months in order to be physically up to the challenge.
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This is what women’s lib has degenerated into….

Indolent
Indolent
December 2, 2024 6:48 pm
Black Ball
Black Ball
December 2, 2024 6:50 pm

Speaking of Top Men:

Australian Venue Co has apologised for its comments about Australia Day saying it wasn’t its intention to offend anyone.

The company said its remarks had caused both “concern and confusion”.

“We sincerely regret that – our purpose is to reinforce community in our venues, not divide it,” the company said in a statement on Monday.

“It is not for us to tell anyone whether or how to celebrate Australia Day.

No. No it isn’t you stupid people.

“We acknowledge that and we apologise for our comments. It certainly wasn’t our intention to offend anyone.”

The company said it employs 9600 people nationwide and welcomes 15 million patrons each year to its venues, adding many different views were held about the national day.

“Whether you choose to celebrate Australia Day or not, everyone is welcome in our pubs, always,” the statement reads.

“We have been, and are always, open over Australia Day and we continue to book events for patrons.”

Except when you dip your toes into the murky waters of identity politics.

It said the decision was made because the day causes “sadness” and “hurt” for some patrons.

“Australia Day is a day that causes sadness for some members of our community, so we have decided not to specifically celebrate a day that causes hurt for some of our patrons and our team,” an Australian Venue Co spokeswoman said.

The business is the nation’s second-biggest pubs group and owns more than 200 pubs and bars nationwide.

The contentious decision would apply to some of Victoria’s most popular pubs including The Esplanade Hotel and Prince of Wales in St Kilda, the Duke of Wellington and Garden State Hotel in Melbourne.

Very ordinary work flogs. Begone

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 2, 2024 6:57 pm

2014 – Hunter has done nuffink wrong.
2015 – Hunter has done nuffink wrong.
2016 – Hunter has done nuffink wrong.
2017 – Hunter has done nuffink wrong.
2018 – Hunter has done nuffink wrong.
2019 – Hunter has done nuffink wrong.
2020 – The laptop is a Wussian hoax. Hunter has done nuffink wrong.
2021 – Hunter has done nuffink wrong.
2022 – Hunter has done nuffink wrong.
2023 – Hunter has done nuffink wrong.
2024 – I pardon Hunter for the wrongs he done.

Roger
Roger
December 2, 2024 7:01 pm

“Australia Day is a day that causes sadness for some members of our community, so we have decided not to specifically celebrate a day that causes hurt for some of our patrons and our team,” an Australian Venue Co spokeswoman said.

Here’s an opening for Australia’s Muslim community to petition AVCo to stop booking Christmas parties on account of their hurt feelings.

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Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 2, 2024 7:07 pm

Aus Venue Co… A mate was in Townsville recently during school holidays and had a room booked at the Hotel Allen (AVC stable), they cancelled all bookings 2 weeks shy of him arriving and stated they were renovating, hotel staff apologetic but had come from top and they were in dark too. He had a couple of beers & meals down that way on the visit and talking with the staff. Apparently management is an s-fight since AVC took over during Covid, renovations have put a bunch of housekeeping staff off work and they had little notice.

Other venues I know, haven’t a beer in Mansfield for years, Tom’s Tavern used to be ok for a beer with mates living in that area of Townsville and Trinity Beach Tavern Cairns. Now on the no go list. Same 2 pubs in Clermont that I have done jobs out near on occasion. Quite a few of the others especially rural Queensland are working man pubs I know of. I don’t think anyone has considered how this will go down outside inner city venues.

Part 1

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 2, 2024 7:10 pm

Part 2 – Take a look at the website…

https://www.ausvenueco.com.au/

Full of woke DEI crap and respects to the noble savage etc…

Execs Bios are illuminating and light on for hospitality:
CEO: Health & Spotless, whose biggest customers are Government/Big business.

CFO: More diverse background but with hefty experience in companies that again support Government.

COO: Only one so far with any pub experience, has a huge portfolio himself of inner city pubs in Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane so might not be engaged as much as he should be.

CMarketingO: Bach Comms involved in PR & Marketing, last job with a inner Melbourne mob called Rowland Pinder who the is zero info in the public sphere about. Weird for a PR Marketing company.

Gen Counsel: Another Spotless type and member of the Australian Governance Institute which seem to straddle Private and public sector as well as full of DEI crap as well. The AGI smell like lobbyists.

CDO: Previously involved with property developers, could be handy if any of the said pubs fail but again no mention of hospitality.

The rest I won’t go into but the Executive seems bloated for an industry that runs on very small margins, SATP will tell you and my other half has worked for a small pub recently and she tells me it’s more than a full time job for the owners.

All I’ll say is as for the rest they have a Chief training and development officer, Chief Experience Officer, Chief People Officer and a bunch of General Managers. Spotless Group features in a lot of their Bios.

They are owned by a Hong Kong private equity mob PAG, started by a an American, Chinese and a Pom. Either they are using this company as a tax dodge on other assets or a clean out is yet to begin from the previous owner. I did find Coles a few pubs owned it till 2019, Westfarmers under Cheney says it all.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 2, 2024 7:19 pm

Woolworths did/does too.

Tom
Tom
December 2, 2024 7:24 pm

Here’s an opening for Australia’s Muslim community to petition AVCo to stop booking Christmas parties on account of their hurt feelings.

Voila! Corporate Australia buys into the grievance industry when it thought it could have an easy win telling consumers to do something they found repugnant.

The corporate simpletons who got on the DEI bandwagon – at least as poorly educated as the “climate change” hysterics –  were so stupid they couldn’t conceive that anyone would disagree with them.

If you want to engage in politics, you need to be a full-time politician, not a corporate virtue-signalling operation that doesn’t really understand what’s imvolved.

Arky
December 2, 2024 7:37 pm

October 2024: “No one is above the law…”
December 2024 “…except us”.

Roger
Roger
December 2, 2024 7:44 pm

If you want to engage in politics, you need to be a full-time politician, not a corporate virtue-signalling operation that doesn’t really understand what’s imvolved.

Just ask outgoing Woolworths CEO Brad Banducci.

Indolent
Indolent
December 2, 2024 7:46 pm
Roger
Roger
December 2, 2024 7:50 pm

They are owned by a Hong Kong private equity mob PAG, started by a an American, Chinese and a Pom. Either they are using this company as a tax dodge on other assets or a clean out is yet to begin from the previous owner. 

PAG has been looking to sell, reportedly.

I wonder what this little venture into woke politics has done to the goodwill value?

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H B Bear
H B Bear
December 2, 2024 8:17 pm

Liquor licensing on the East Coast a complete mystery coming from the West. I got signed in to some bowlo for some Sunday afternoon beers. WTF? Licensed surf clubs? Pokies everywhere. Like toll roads you can keep ‘em.

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 2, 2024 8:22 pm

Liquor licensing on the East Coast a complete mystery

Australia’s liquor laws derive from the idea that you can’t have lots of drunk convicts. You never know what they’ll get up to. Likewise our firearms laws. The idea of drunk convicts with guns gives the authorities the vapours.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 2, 2024 8:34 pm

Patrons Illustrated at Teh Paywallian story on the Australian Venue Co venue in Surrey Hills illustrate the perils taking a political stance on anything, even politics. An influencer looking chick, a couple of wizened old blokes and a Karen who looks like Lady Waffleworth who naturally approves.

Frank
Frank
December 2, 2024 8:39 pm

Hunter has minimal chance of keeping his nose clean from now on. I wonder how his art career will pan out, hopefully he has saved up enough to pay the crack and hookers tab from now on because the graft opportunities will have evaporated.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 2, 2024 8:45 pm

Ed Husic pleas fall on deaf ears among divided Muslim communityAlexi Demetriadi and Rosie Lewis
1 minutes ago

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The Muslim political campaign threatening to topple senior Labor ministers has declared it has no problem if its pro-Palestine push helped elect Peter Dutton, saying such a result would “demonstrate the impact” of its movement.
But other Muslim leaders have urged voters to avoid “cutting their nose to spite their face”, saying inadvertently electing the Liberals would be a far worse prospect for the community’s hopes for Palestine.
The ALP will likely incorporate The Muslim Vote’s stance as part of its campaign arsenal in southwest Sydney, where supportive elements from the community fear a protest vote could usher in a Liberal government far friendlier to Israel and more opposed to Palestinian statehood.
Industry Minister Ed Husic, the country’s most senior Muslim politician, urged his community to not vote in “anger” against Labor, spruiking the government’s “advocacy” for Palestinian sovereignty and its record at the United Nations.
“I think people can see the volume of work that we have done as a government, particularly in the last 12 months … We are trying to make sure that Australia’s voice is heard in the international arena on this issue,” Mr Husic said on Monday.
But The Muslim Vote convener Wesam Charkawi rejected Mr Husic’s plea, urging Muslim voters who had been “neglected … for far too long” to take a stand against Labor at the ballot box.

“(The Labor government) consistently held that Israel has a right to defend itself while Palestinians were being butchered,” Sheik Charkawi said: “(The government) refused to sanction Israel, refused to expel the Israeli ambassador, refused to call for an arms embargo, and refused on multiple occasions to call for an unconditional ceasefire.”
The organisation has spearheaded independent campaigns in southwest Sydney, where local doctor Ziad Basyouny is running against Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke in Watson and Cumberland councillor Ahmed Ouf against Education Minister Jason Clare in Blaxland.
The Muslim community is split on whether a “voice at the table” was preferable to a more overtly “pro-Palestine” independent member, and whether a vote in anger against Labor would inadvertently propel the Liberals into government – a prospect the majority of Muslim voters would be against, despite anger with the ALP.
But Sheik Charkawi said the two major parties were cut from the same cloth and the campaign wouldn’t change its approach in the event of any looming Liberal victory.

Fight, you bastards, fight. I HATE peace!

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
December 2, 2024 9:19 pm

CONTEMPT CHARGES FOR CONVENOR OF THE CLASSIFICATION REVIEW BOARD?

I’ve just instructed my solicitor to prepare any and all actions, including contempt proceedings, to force the Convenor of the Classification Review Board to comply with the orders of the Federal Court of Australia quashing the decision to grant the paedophile-fantasy comic, Gender Queer, an Unrestricted rating and further ordering that a new, lawful classification decision be made about this perverted book.

https://mailchi.mp/bernardgaynor/u9ceet3738-2724468?e=fe7dbed3ce

(Hint: in Australia the law says that paedophile-fantasy comics are to be banned).

The Convenor of the Classification Review Board, it seems, has given me, you and the Federal Court of Australia the big, fat, middle finger.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 2, 2024 9:50 pm

Muslim political campaign threatening to topple senior Labor ministers has declared it has no problem if its pro-Palestine push helped elect Peter Dutton

The crocodile, about to eat Labor ministers in SW Sidernee last after years – nay, decades – of frantic appeasement.

Brilliant.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 2, 2024 9:55 pm

Anyway, Sliante to you mob.

One of the old and the bold here, has offspring who moved inter State, several years ago. They don’t want to move back, because they don’t want to find themselves looking after aged parents, but they want to know if they are still mentioned in the will?

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
December 2, 2024 10:22 pm

John H 2:34am
Re Christopher Hitchens attack on the church.
He has the upper hand in that he deals in langauge.
historically he is incorrect – The Crusades – defence of your people and what is sacred to you, the Spanish Inquisition the bite Back from a barbaric and vicious attack on your kind, women – passages are infuriating but the initial passages of being complementary to eachother is the most eloquent truism of how society functions between 2 people, then the parents and families, then their community, then the outer world. Re South America, the Indians were a barbaric and backward peoples who were taught a better way, unfortunately the Spanish thought themselves above them, just like all colonial powers did against the tribes who were there before them.

ad to the idiotic attacks on mother Teresa , he like pretentious and hedonistic lay abouts, swarming together in their fine clothing, beautifully crafted surrounds which they have no idea how they came about, getting drunk on an over powering sickly spirit, Voda cruiser, sitting around dreaming up how their hedonistic and bougie life styles are so much holier than the history of the church.
not doing anything to address the so called current issues, they bang on the church’s failures who have done more to improve society than any other organisation.
with regards to sex with little boys, 99.5% are perpetrated by homosexual males. Like him.
Chech put your hollyweird and the arts world it full of so called talented people who were having sex with minors, and up until recently, it was glorified by the arts community, those who cringed at suburbia and where you cross dressers and trances maifested themselves.

hitchens was part of the Luxembourg trotskiates – have heard of anything more stupid.

the guy was a self indulgent twerp justifying his high life, his sodomy, no responsibility, travel, luxury hotels and just putting every one down who crossed him.

Indolent
Indolent
December 2, 2024 10:22 pm
Indolent
Indolent
December 2, 2024 10:23 pm

He’s basically pardoning himself by pardoning his co-conspirator.

We haven’t seen a pardon as sweeping as Hunter Biden’s in generations

Indolent
Indolent
December 2, 2024 10:25 pm

@RudyGiuliani

Biden,who will not even meet with his grand daughter Navy, didn’t pardon his son because he’s a good father. He did so because, as his son admits on the Hard Drive, for 30 years Hunter has given half the millions he’s collected to the Boss of the Crime Family- Joe Biden.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 2, 2024 10:37 pm

Creedence Clearwater Revival – I Put a Spell on You

“I Put a Spell on You” is a 1956 song written and composed by Jalacy “Screamin’ Jay” Hawkins, whose own recording of it was selected as one of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame’s 500 Songs that Shaped Rock and Roll.
Video: scenes from the movie “Christine” (1983)
Album: Creedence Clearwater Revival (1968)

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Great edit.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 2, 2024 10:49 pm

David Hicks’ Gitmo transfer a possible legal model for Bali Nine returnAmanda Hodge
4 hours ago

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The proposed prisoner transfer of five remaining Bali Nine convicts is a legal minefield that will likely require a one-off, “bespoke” agreement between Indonesia and Australia similar to the one that allowed the return of accused terror supporter David Hicks from Guantanamo Bay, inter­national law expert ­Donald Rothwell says.
The advice comes ahead of scheduled talks in Jakarta on Tuesday between Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke and Indonesia’s Co-ordinating Minister for Law, Human Rights, Immigration and Corrections Yusril Ihza Mahendra aimed at ironing out details of the men’s return.
Matthew Norman, Si Yi Chen, Martin Stephens, Michael Czugaj and Scott Rush have all served more than 19 years of their respective life sentences in prisons across Bali and Java for attempting to traffic 8.3kg of heroin from Bali to Australia in 2005.
Alleged ringleaders Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran were executed in 2015 while Renae Lawrence, the only female of the group, was released in Nov­ember 2018.
The ninth Australian to be convicted, Tan Duc Thanh Nguyen, died of cancer earlier that same year.

The Indonesian government has said it hoped the men could be transferred to Australian prisons before the end of the year, after Anthony Albanese raised the issue with President Prabowo Subianto on the sidelines of last month’s APEC summit in Peru.
Australian National University’s Professor Rothwell told The Australian there were no legal provisions for Australians convicted of crimes overseas to serve further time in prisons at home.
Nor was there any provision under current commonwealth legislation regarding international prisoner transfers for Australian authorities to grant a pardon or early release to Australians convicted overseas.
“The one possible solution I can see is that Tony Burke and his Indonesian counterpart could this week agree upon a memorandum of understanding which is a less formal legal instrument that can be quickly negotiated and does not require formal ratification,” Professor Rothwell said.

David Hicks could have been shot, out of hand, with the full blessing of international law, by the Northern Alliance troops who captured him. Instead they sold his sorry arse to the Yanks, who threw him into Gitmo..

MatrixTransform
December 2, 2024 11:13 pm

God v Science?

… I give you Zugzwang

a German word that describes a situation in chess where a player is forced to make a move that will worsen their position

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 2, 2024 11:29 pm

I will be issuing writs on behalf of the shitweasel- Australian community for the extreme distress, harm and befouling of our good name by comparing us with Bowen/ Blubbasack and the waiters kid.

Certainly we may not be held in the highest esteem by the general community, but lumping the ALP in with us is a bridge too far.

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 2, 2024 11:34 pm

Supernatural/spirit world is real. Angels and Demons too. What “God” is? NFI.

If you contemplate this stuff deeply enough you must come to the conclusion of “How does anything exist”?

It’s a mindfu^k and best left alone IMO. Way worse than trying to figure out Donnie Darko.

Just concentrate on fighting Tories etc.

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Arky
December 2, 2024 11:48 pm

Been binge watching that meerkat manor program.
Geez, I have come to despise those nasty little critters.
If I ever have the chance to go to the Kalahari and shoot some of them I will jump at the chance.

Arky
December 2, 2024 11:52 pm

I have never before cheered on snakes, but I am now.
The number one thing these filthy little beasts spend their time doing is rubbing their stinking arse glands all over the scenery.
Go snake.

Arky
December 2, 2024 11:56 pm

And the narration is irritatingly smug.
The presenter should have a herd of meerkats sewn into his trousers and thrown out of a C130 with a parachute packed by Kamala the day after her defeat.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 2, 2024 11:58 pm

Meerkats are honourary members of the shitweasel- community in good standing.

Go back to molesting armadillos with vintage machinery.

Arky
December 3, 2024 12:20 am

Good grief.
It’s like Mad Max with furries.

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