A career of perpetual election losses await the SFLs if she gets up.
Open Thread – Mon 24 June 2024
- Open Thread – Christmas Day 2024
- Open Thread – Mon 23 Dec 2024
- No, it is not all of the above, stupid!
- Open Thread – Weekend 21 Dec 2024
- Open Thread – Thurs 19 Dec 2024
Please pass the chuck bucket.
Better late than never. Christmas Eve/Sarajevo (Timeless Version) … Trans-Siberian Orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of1HV4b0ccg David Bowie and Tina Turner…”Tonight.”
Bronte Beach was on the news last night. Packed to the hilt with Pommy/Euro backpackers and whatnot. No mueslis.
I’m not surprised about range anxiety.
It’s one thing to ooh aah about a trip from Melbourne to Magnetic Island when you have no time constraints, another when you have to pick up a child from preschool and get to a doctor’s appointment and the red light is flashing.
Cronkite at 10:43
I note you neatly avoid any reference to birth defects in aquatic animals.
Hmmmm.
Gotta say, I like the cut of Justice Croucher’s jib. I like how he didn’t put up with the prosecution’s shenanigans. I prefer a judge who will err on the side of the accused when it comes to what evidence the prosecution is allowed to adduce or present. This befits the fact that the accused is presumed innocent and should be treated as such. I liked the instructions to the jury – ‘there are many paths to acquittal but only one narrow path to conviction’ or whatever he said. That’s a good encapsulation of the standard required to convict.
It was an interesting case. Ordinarily, you wouldn’t expect the accused to give witness testimony, but given he was the only witness to two deaths in extremely unusual circumstances (if his version of events was accepted), perhaps that version had to be heard from him.
Or perhaps he’s a dark triad type whose narcissism meant he believed he would be so compelling on the stand that the jury would not be able to resist falling for his story, and he insisted on testifying.
In all honesty, this is one of those cases where even if he didn’t commit murder per se, I’m still not unhappy that he’s going to be in a cell for the next 20+ years. Someone who was willing to do what he did to the bodies of those two people shouldn’t be roaming the streets.
Rosie
June 26, 2024 10:46 am
And it is not just restricted to ladies, either.
A chap I know does commentary for local sports, and gets a sponsors car for out of town assignments. He picks up an EV on Saturday for the 150 km round trip with three burly ex footballers on board.
Range shows nearly 300 km.
No problems.
About halfway into the outbound trip the meter dropped dramatically and tells him he won’t make it there and back. There is no charger in the little rural town they are headed for, so it involved limping on another 30 kms in the wrong direction after the game to find a charger and waiting for the battery to charge.
The advice when they rang the dealer?
“Dunno. Turn off the heater and radio and slow down.”
The joys of EV motoring.
Toad of Toad Hall would not approve.
I’m for building enough nukes to cope with Australia’s peak load plus a bit. When not required to keep the lights on and industry running, desalinate water and drought proof the place as well as pump it inland.
I agree; it’s immensely frustrating that there is any discussion about wind, solar, nuclear, pushing water uphill when we have an abundant supply of coal that we are exporting.
Frankly, it’s nuts.
Neil Oliver Interviews Alex Story
There are a couple of interesting articles (one by Ramesh Thakur, as I recall) on the dilemma many conservatives have in respect to Julian Assange. We see this in the last 24 hours as many conservatives are applauding his return to Oz. Basically, it is a conflict between the principles of freedom of speech and actual espionage.I think it is a no-brainer when military engagement of our troops are involved. Others disagree.
But I also suspect that many of Assange’s casual supporters have not closely followed his career.
Oh come on
June 26, 2024 10:48 am
Me?
Not so much.
The presumption of innocence is one thing.
But Croucher went overboard to scrub evidence which was unfavourable to Lynn, but entirely relevant.
He has very keen to jump all over the prosecution for merely putting forward their case theory, but allowed the defence to put totally unsupported claims of “planted evidence” which was simply a throwaway line to cast doubt which wouldn’t otherwise exist.
One really good aspect to keeping coal in the ground is that when everyone pushing decarbonation grows up or dies, Australia might have preserved some lower-cost reserves. Every other country (egs China, UK, Germany) is scraping up scraps at minimal profit!
Um, maybe guys you were doing it wrong.
Popular pub collapses owing more than $1m, just 63c left in bank account (26 Jun)
That’s the perfect hook to bring in punters in their thousands! A $28 vegan burger and a $20 schooner, yum!
Rosie
June 25, 2024 4:44 pm
Quite right rosie, but coincidences do happen – there’s the case of the poor bastard who has been struck by lightning 7 times and lived!
Washing clothes in a machine shortens their life, and (apart from knickers) the notion that anything worn once needs to be washed has no basis except for a cultural one.
It’s a bit like the famous ‘rinse and repeat’ admonition on shampoo bottles, which was probably the most brilliant marketing ploy of the C20th.
Federal PoliticsAustralia
Coalition slams Prime Minister for not expelling rogue Labor Senator Fatima Payman
Ellen RansleyThe Nightly
Wed, 26 June 2024 8:51AM
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The Coalition have accused Prime Minister Anthony Albanese of “weak leadership” after Labor confirmed renegade senator Fatima Payman wouldn’t be suspended or expelled for voting against the party.
The 29-year-old first-term West Australian senator sent shockwaves through the party on Tuesday when she broke Labor Party rules to vote in favour of a Greens motion calling for Palestinian statehood.
It was the first time a Labor politician crossed the floor while in government since 1986, and Senator Payman risked suspension or expulsion from the ALP because party rules state that all members must vote in line with the caucus’ position.
But Deputy Prime Minister Richard Marles has confirmed Senator Payman won’t be punished with either of those actions, prompting the Liberal Party to accuse its opponents of being weak.
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“What on earth is going on here on the floor of the Senate? We’ve got Labor senators on both sides of the debate,” deputy Liberal leader Sussan Ley said on Wednesday morning.
“It’s effectively a green light to Labor senators that if you feel strongly about an issue, you can cross the floor.
“So the shield of caucus solidarity is gone, and no one has crossed the floor in Labor since 1986. It’s clearly not Labor Party policy.”
Liberal senator James Paterson had earlier said allowing Senator Payman to stay in the party was a failure of Mr Albanese.
“This is a direct challenge to his authority as Labor leader. And if he fails that, if there are no consequences for Senator Payman, then not just in your eyes, and my eyes, will he be a weak Prime Minister — but in the eyes of his own caucus members,” Senator Paterson said.
“So if she can get away with this, then every other Labor MP and Senator will be thinking, well, maybe I can get away with this in the future. And his authority over the party will be completely shattered.”
Mr Marles said while crossing the floor was a “significant issue”, now was not the time to be “going around expelling people because they’re expressing a particular opinion”.
“I think if you were to ask Senator Payman, she would say it was a very significant issue,” Mr Marles told ABC Radio.
“There isn’t a mandated consequence for this within our rules. It’s actually not with our precedent, and we’re going to handle this in a sensible and a mature way.”
Liberal senator James Paterson said if Senator Payman was allowed to stay in the party, it was a failure of Prime Minister Anthony Albanese.
Both the Government and Opposition attempted to amend the Greens’ motion on Tuesday afternoon, and Senator Payman sat with advisors as a number of procedural votes took place.
I think it is a no-brainer when military engagement of our troops are involved.
We were at war were we? I must have missed the formal declaration of War.
Below is an article headline from Brisbane Times.
Seems to be a distortion of Tuckers view. I would think he is more along the lines of money can be better spent in US and why support a corrupt regime. Plus US basically pushed Putin for last 8 years. A bit like Farages view for which the media jumped on him.
Seems can’t criticise involvement in Ukraine without being considered a Putin apologist.
“He’s ‘rooting’ for Putin’s war in Ukraine: How did Tucker Carlson get an Australian visa?”
Going to have to disagree with the prevailing attitude towards Assange here. He exposed the duplicity and malevolence of the GAE for all to see. As Sachs outlined on JudgeNap overnight, it was WikiLeaks that released the Burns memo written in 2008 that outlined the problems that would arise from pursuing Ukrainian membership in NATO.
Although there are matters that are properly secret, the abuse of secrecy provisions has long been out of control and far beyond anything that would have been tolerated before WW2.
As for the question of whether he was protected by the first amendment, I think he clearly was under the Pentagon Papers precedent. The exposure of that material was clearly in and related directly to matters in the pubic interest.
Is he a hero? If heroism involves a commitment to the truth despite the personal cost, he clear was and is.
Marles says it’s really really really complicated.
‘Difficult issue’: Senator Fatima Payman to stay in Labor despite crossing the floor on motion to recognise Palestinian statehood, says Deputy PM Richard Marles (Sky News, 26 Jun)
A really really really difficult issue! I wonder if Tony Burqa had a word with Mr Marles about how really really really difficult the issue is?
I hope the Libs keep hammering Labor on this abject hypocrisy and antisemitism day after day. It would be the perfect political counter to “three eyed fish”.
Roger @ 7:47
Behold, the power of mismatched units.
The assumed 2050 electricity consumption of 313TWh adds up to 35.7GW per annum.
Apparently according to AEMO, this 35.7GW of demand is going to be supplied by:
• 86GW of distributed solar; plus
• 127GW of grid scale wind and solar
• 15GW of gas turbines
All backed up by 49GW of storage (not immediately clear what this means in terms of GW hours).
And 10,000km of new grid infrastructure.
About $500bn of forward investment (discounting the Snowy 2.0 factor and pesky farmers and assuming all rolls out as per the Excel spreadsheet).
About $14bn per delivered GW.
(Which may not be available 24/7, depending on seasonality and time of day.)
How capitally efficient is all that?
(See what they did there?)
True.
There are many documented cases of people who have awful runs of bad luck.
That’s why Napoleon wanted his appointees to be ‘lucky.’
BTW, I regard myself as one of the ‘lucky’ ones. Looking back, from riding on motorbikes and in cars at, let’s say, ‘exhilarating’ speeds, to sampling drugs, to one night stands, to catching trains late at night in Sydney – and they’re just the ones I remember.
Mind you, I’m a lot more cautious nowadays. Luck is all very well when you are young, and handy when you are old. But, there is no harm in hedging your bets.
People here are down on Assange?
I can’t see how you could live through the Trump Presidency and not realise that the people Assange exposed desperately needed – and continue to need – an extended spell of sunlight. No one has directed more sunlight on these people than Assange.
Oh please, what had lightning got to do with a man who repeatedly threatened to kill his wife, and then she was dead in suspicious circumstances, then was involved in the death of two people where he admitted eradicating evidence burning, raking and making it impossible to determine the cause of death of at least one of the two victims.
Neither of these circumstances were ‘acts of God’.
Which evidence are you referring to?
Well, it was a bit more than a case theory – it was kind of a wild extrapolation. The defence is allowed to do this (even though it generally doesn’t play well with juries) because the job of the defence when the accused has pleaded Not Guilty is to do whatever it takes* to get to that verdict. The prosecution’s job is not to secure a conviction – it is to act in the interest of justice. So, in theory, it is held to a higher standard with regard to what it can present to the court.
*short of knowingly misleading the court. Speculation, even wild speculation, doesn’t meet this mark.
From post on prostate cancer treatment by shaterzzz @09:51am and others embedded to his post.
I was diagnosed with prostate cancer 2nd half of 2021 and commenced quarterly hormone injections in November that year for two years. Then radiation treatment over 3 months commencing March 2022 – 39 treatments.
Suffered radiation proctitis October 2022 to March 2023. Treatment included 3 colonoscopies and blood transfusions and diathermy. Fixed the problem.
Then June 2024 hit with radiation cystitis – 3 admissions via Emergency over 14 days until finally to theatre for cystoscopy/diathermy.
Hopefully that’s the end of it – didn’t enjoy the catheter with leg bag! If not, to Sydney for Hyperbaric Medicine treatment.
The Urologist who confirmed the prostate cancer, after scans/biopsy, recommended against prostate removal and opted for hormone/radiation treatment. A senior medical professor also told me to get a second opinion if prostate removal was the recommended treatment. Both seemed to be of the opinion that surgical removal of the prostate was a path chosen too easily by some.
Best wishes for your journey shaterzzz.
Good news everyone!!
Sicktoria has solved crime!
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2024/jun/26/australia-politics-live-labor-coalition-greens-parliament-julian-assange-saipan-wikileaks-fatima-payman-anthony-albanese-peter-dutton-nuclear-emissions-newington-question-time
In Victorian political news, AAP reports the Victorian government will be shutting two prisons:
Victoria will close two prisons, including a privately-run maximum security one, and shift inmates to a $1.1 billion facility that has been sitting idle for almost two years.
Port Phillip Prison will close by the end of 2025 and the 59-year-old Dhurringile Prison will close within months, Corrections Minister Enver Erdogan announced on Wednesday.
Port Phillip Prison is privately operated by G4S and has been open since September 1997 with a capacity of 1087 inmates.
The state’s contract with G4S was renewed in 2015 and agreement extensions were expected to continue for 20 years, depending on performance.
Workers at both closing prisons will be given the opportunity to work elsewhere within Victoria’s justice system.
Inmates at Dhurringile will likely move to the Beechworth minimum security prison.
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Amid all the arguments about purchasing submarines, Billy Connolly nailed it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qvFxFVRcRo
Don’t know how to put a series of hearts …
Don’t particularly like Assange but he did cause considerable embarrassment to the lesbian bitch in 2016 iirc.
Roger:
As many Cats suggested/foretold, the plan is coming undone at the implementation stage, and the people responsible are blaming us – the very people who have been pointing out the problems and trying to get the government to treat the project as an engineering problem, not a political one.
The difference is that the authors of the plan have been -in the main – advised by the university eye candy in their offices instead of the old fart Engineers who foretold this unfolding disaster decades ago.
Too little, and WAY too late.
So, to deliver some 36GW of capacity, we will need 15GW of reliable gas, 213 GW of intermittent ruinables and 49GW of “storage”.
Take off the 15GW of reliable gas, and the build will be 213GW of ruinables (replaced every 20 or so years) and 49GW of storage (which will also need regular replacement) to provide 31GW of actual capacity, or almost a seven times overbuild of ruinables, plus a lot of storage and 10,000 Kms of transmission lines.
And they claim that nuclear is too expensive!
Stumbling Into Ruin
Reflections on senescence, amnesia, and war. JOHN LEAKE
JUN 24
Recently I reread Paul Kennedy’s The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers: Economic Change and Military Conflict from 1500 to 2000.
A consistent theme throughout the book is how great powers often fall when their military ambitions surpass their capabilities—that is, great powers have always had a tendency to overestimate themselves and underestimate their rivals.
Chapter 5 details to the run-up to World War I, and how every power in Europe failed to understand the sheer scope of the cataclysm they would unleash when they committed to war in 1914. In spite of possessing far greater general education and knowledge of history than today’s pitiful crop of politicians, the leaders of Europe in 1914 miscalculated everything. At the war’s conclusion four years later, the disaster had claimed 20 million lives and wounded 21 million others.
The war started when ranking members of the Hapsburg Court in Vienna issued an unfulfillable ultimatum to the Kingdom of Serbia, and it concluded with the end of the Hapsburg dynasty’s rule since 1282.
I woke up this morning to reports of an attack on a beach resort in Sevastopol (Crimea) with five US-supplied ATACMS tactical missiles, fired from Ukrainian territory, that killed three people and wounded over 100. And so, it seems, the U.S. and Nato continue on the path of escalation.
I wonder if the people featured in the following video know what they are getting themselves into. Are they acquainted with the history of the 1900-1914 period, and recognize the eery resemblance it bears to the current situation in Europe?
Ted Cruz on a Senate Judicial Nomination goes nuts on the Communist representative and catches her out on multiple lies she’s told.
She’s a Democrat nominee for a Judges position. The Radicals have taken over the US Government.
Just realised that the “e” fell off the end of my name in previous comments, now corrected.
Recommended reading for those who think Greg Lynn was hard done by (sorry can’t link).
What jurors in Greg Lynn’s trial over the deaths of two Victorian campers weren’t told
abc.net.au
As per Rosie’s comment, Lynn had a history of gratuitous violence towards animals. There are long standing proven links between extreme animal cruelty as exhibited by Lynn, and the sort of psychopathy which leads someone to commit murder over a relatively minor slight.
Why could this not be advanced in evidence?
Whether or not he murdered his first wife is as yet unknown, but there was significant evidence of his OTT rage and threatening behaviour at the merest trigger.
Again, why is that inadmissible?
Croucher tried to throw the murder case out right at the start by having it downgraded to manslaughter. The Court of Appeal knocked him back on that one. Next minute, he is taking manslaughter off the table mid-trial, saying it is murder or nothing, confident in his belief murder wouldn’t get up.
Thank Christ the jury tipped him over on at least one count.
I don’t like Lynn’s chances on appeal. And he now has a likely coronial inquest into the death of his first wife to deal with.
I doubt you lot would enjoy it if AEMO actually did the sums on a realistic budget and timeframe for Dutton’s Snowy 3.0 and the Seven Radiation-Stunted White Elephants.
I also doubt that anyone living close to a nuke plant would enjoy it if an EMP was successfully deployed overhead.
Seven nuclear power stations would cost half that much and not scar the landscape or require that amount again every twenty years when solar panels and wind turbines will need replacing. Nuclear reactors would not need replacing for a century. Our leaders are illiterate and innumerate so we have no hope but to go bankrupt.
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2024/06/this-what-the-west-faces-the-enemy-is-within.html
Hamas never raped any women on October 7th…….
Postcard from Tunisia Part 2
Some of the Tunisia houses and hotels are built “inside-out” – the exterior is a two or three storey wall all around, and once inside there is a central atrium with a courtyard in the middle. A good way of achieving peace. Usually, the roof is utilized for clothes drying and outside recreation space.
Sousse had its ancient walls from more than 1000 years ago, but in one place a big gap had been smashed by WWII bombing raids, so it was left that way. There was much fighting between the Allies and the Axis around the whole area. We stayed in a very pleasant place with an interior courtyard, as many houses and hotels have, with the rooms up winding stone staircases.
Went on a walk around the local souk and came across a pro-Palestinian demonstration going on. About 400 people and lots of chanting.
From Mrs TE now:
Went to their local beach – very busy with thousands at play. Only a few burka neck to ankle swimmers. Most women wore a scarf or hijab, but I was surprised to see “local” girls throughout Tunisia in shorts, off the shoulder tops, and some bellies bared. Noted a few women bike and car drivers. Men rule at the coffee shops – not a woman to be seen. There are “sports bars” – men only smoking cigarettes/hookah, drinking coffee, chatting inside aircon. Cigarettes are drug of choice and cheap – there are overwhelming male numbers (not women). Call to prayer happens five times a day – and night. TE was woken a few times at 3am.
One of the highlights has been that we have stayed in some stunning hotels and airbnb’s. The tiles, colour, furnishings, carpet, paintings, marble, antiques and distinctive architecture has been a delight. Some very tiny doorways – watch your head! The courtyards and rooftops with potted plants have been wonderful to relax in. Our breakfasts have been local food, plentiful and varied. Unique boutique accommodation costing about $200 Australian at most expensive.
Went further south to Mahdia, another seaside place. The transport to get there was by “louage” – a system of vans and drivers. Buy your ticket (a bun fight), get in and it goes when all seats taken – very cheap. We arrived alive! The city was worth seeing for its 12C fort and the surrounding cemetery dating back hundreds of years – all facing Mecca – as well as the beaches.
An oddity on leaving. It’s illegal to take dinars – the currency – out of the country so what to do? Obviously buy up what you need, but there’s always something left. Two of us gave the airport cleaners what we had left, and there were others doing that too. Very strange “closed currency” concept.
TE’s conclusion: not sure about Tunisia. Much to dislike, but still a lot worth seeing.
Albo gets up to speak in parliament, and the number one problem isn’t the economy, with inflation on the rise again. It’s not the energy crisis which is stripping Australia of manufacturing and affordable reliable energy – such that we can look forward to a barista led recovery followed by IKEA flat pack challenges. No, it’s Peter Dutton.
“Albo gets up to speak in parliament, and the number one problem isn’t …
No, it’s Peter Dutton.”
Well, of course it is! Without that pesky opposition, he’d be able to foist his green utopian plans upon the plebs – he knows best, just shut up and let him help you! You don’t need to bother your head with all that pesky stuff, we’ve considered it long and hard, just get out of our way and let us do it to you, er, do it for you, yes, for you.
CPI at 4 per cent.
Will Monty come here and blame Menzies, Thatcher, Pinochet and the moon being in the wrong phase?
I think John Anderson said this morning that a number of institutions preferred to report what the government wanted them to, which is another way of saying they’ve been “marched through”.
AEMO, BoM, CSIRO and most of the media come to mind.
Someone quoted the learned jurdge in the Lynn case as saying “there are many paths to acquittal but only one narrow path to conviction”.
It is more correct to say “There is only one path of plausible truth. You will not be able to see all elements along that pathway, but if you see enough to convince you of guilt – beyond reasonable doubt – you must convict. If not, you must acquit”.
This “many paths to acquittal” line is utter bullshit in this case. Lynn very unwisely (but in keeping with his narcissistic personality) took to the stand and gave his account. Therefore there was only one path to acquittal. You either believe his story or you don’t. He admitted he was responsible for the deaths, but ran the line of self defence in the case of Hill, and accidental shooting in the case of Clay. It is fairly clear this was a compromise verdict. I suspect a good number of jurors wanted to convict on both counts. They conceded Lynn the possibility of self defence in the Hill death, but simply couldn’t buy his “magic deflecting bullet” story regarding the death of Clay. They knew it probably wouldn’t alter his sentence by much, so went with the single conviction.
Kind of funny that he heard “Not Guilty” on the first count and probably thought he was home free, only to have the rug pulled on the second count.
You can smell the desperation.
An important planning concern.
If Poot the Shirtless, or Emperor Xi, really want to destroy Australia’s functional economy with nuclear weapons and minimal civilian casualties, they would target Loy Yang, Eraring, Dumaresq, the Bayswater switchyard, Dampier, Wheatstone, Moomba, and Longford.
If really vindictive, they would leave Canbra untouched.
Don’t pass this on.
Russia-Ukraine war: Russia’s MIG-31 downed a US RQ4 drone over Black Sea, says Report | WION
Isn’t this what his former MiL claimed? I wouldn’t place too much stock in it if she is the only source.
And no you can’t put her on the stand. The fact his ex-wife died from suicide would inevitably be adduced as a part of her testimony – or she would be testifying as an anonymous woman whose link to the accused isn’t allowed to be revealed to the jury but who would clearly be hostile to him. This would unfairly prejudice the jury.
The fact that an accused murderer’s ex-wife died from suicide is indeed grounds to suspect guilt. But it is the kind of thing that is rightfully kept from a jury which needs to decide solely on the evidence related to the crime whether he is guilty or not guilty of it.
Similarly, the criminal history of committing similar crimes is also kept from juries. It is something for the judge to account for during sentencing, however. In this case, whilst the judge isn’t going to take Lynn’s deceased wife’s fate into account when sentencing him, I’d hope the coroner has another look – a very long look – at the suicide of his former wife.
Alleged suicide.
She isn’t.
Two others.
A neighbour and a house-guest also both witnessed abject and depraved animal cruelty.
That, folks, is what we call a pattern of behaviour.
And I agree about the improbability of a successful appeal. Very hard to appeal a properly instructed jury verdict. Given most appear to consider the judge was favourable to Lynn, there probably isn’t going to be much for him to hang his hat on in the jury instructions. Prosecutorial or police misconduct…well, that’s very much Hail Mary territory. Unless something new arises, all of the issues in this regard have been ventilated.
I don’t reckon he’ll beat the conviction.
Wasn’t it determined to be a suicide? If so, there is nothing alleged about it, legally speaking. The cause of death might change with further investigation, of course.
If animal cruelty isn’t part of the factual matrix of the crime, it’s not relevant and shouldn’t be included. If it were included, he’d have grounds for appeal and would probably be successful.
“In 2000, Victorian coroner Graeme Johnstone found her death was caused by “combined alcohol and drug toxicity” and said investigations did not reveal any suspicious circumstances or the involvement of other people.”
“As no suicide note or other definitive indications of the deceased’s intentions were found, it is unclear whether she intended to take her own life,” the coroner wrote”
So it’s an alleged suicide.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 26, 2024 11:50 am
Reply to Bill From The Bush
Hairy chose radiation with seeds – called Brachytherapy.
If your cancer and pelvic structure is suitable for it, it gives excellent results.
All oncology treatments are becoming increasingly personalised, including prostate ca, so generalised advice is almost uniformly wrong. Variables to consider include the presence of metastases, tumour extending beyond the prostatic capsule, (multi)focality of the tumour/s within the capsule, histologic differentiation and the presence/absence of specific genetic signals beyond the usual PSA. Some of these (macro and micro-histology) are summarised in the Gleason score, which is inversely related to survival and is the single most important prognostic signal. Wikipedia has a good summary of all this.
Personal preference has a significant impact on post-treatment quality-of-life, so avoiding surgery when otherwise “indicated” isn’t necessarily a death sentence, but avoiding surgery will always prevent post-surgical complications. These can sometimes be worse than untreated disease.
The most important fact: 45-50% of post-mortems in men revealed incidental findings of prostate cancer ie. usually asymptomatic at the time of death ie. it is a prevalent, overwhelmingly low-morbidity disease. This was common knowledge in the 1950s and 60s, the results can therefore be trusted.
Everyone deciding on any invasive treatment should take this into account.
With regard to anti-hormonal, targeted or radiotherapies.. much higher benefit/risk ratios. That’s where I would be informing myself and asking most of the questions..
Saw discussion of this on twitter yesterday, I doubt it though. The source is not very reliable.
You can smell the desperation.”
Indeed.
One might also suggest it is doubtful that anyone living downstream from a pumped hydro dam would enjoy it if someone caused a catastrophic failure of the dam wall. Or that someone living within 1 few km of a dangerous goods warehouse would like it if such a warehouse was rocked by an explosion.
I’m not sure it was unwise in this instance. Given his previous statements to police, there was already an account he’d provided that could be presented to the court. If he didn’t testify, he’d probably still have been found guilty.
I highly doubt he would have been acquitted if he didn’t testify. The circumstances of the victims’ deaths strongly suggest he did it. He needed to tell his story to stand half a chance of acquittal.
Okay Rosie, so it’s either a suicide or accidental death.
This was posted by TdF on Jo NOva’s website today. I hope TdF won’t mind me reposting it here. It is SO good:
Sydney Harbour bridge. 1932. 92 years old
26 locks and weirs on the Murray river. 85 years old.
Sydney Opera House. 1973 Unbelievably expensive. World famous. 50 Years old.
Snowy Mountain hydro scheme, 70 years old.
West Gate Bridge. 1978. 40 year life expectancy. 46 years old.
Imagine if they all had to be built again?
We also built many power stations to burn free coal and gas.
Hazelwood power station 1971. 53 years old. Running at 98% of design when destroyed.Liddell power station. 1972. 53 years old when turned off.
Many more destroyed. All blown up or planned to be switched off.
To be replaced with windmills and solar panels which we know will be worn out in 20 years.
How can this be cheaper?
Why is Green never about solving problems and just about endless spending. And what do we, the paying public, get for our money?
Short term Renewables solve no problem. And when they stop, we have nothing.
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Why are we doing it? Cui Bono?
Sancho Panzer @ 9:25 am
It’s still easy for us Platinum Members.
In case anyone thought otherwise, I don’t actually give a rat’s about this bloke. I’m not in any sense in his corner. I think the police interrogation of him was questionable, but that is about it. I appreciate the judge’s adjudication of the trial, as discussed above. I have no reason to doubt the jury’s verdict.
I think this possibly has all the hallmarks of the early days in the Chris Dawson case. Very convincing ex-husband knows local coppers and primes them with a story about his crazy ex-missus going off the rails, and her nut-job family.
Cursory investigation follows including out-of-hand dismissals of complaints from her family.
Anyway, there is obviously enough prima facie evidence for the coroner to re-open it.
That might include how a confirmed tea-totaller ended up with a BAC of 0.21% and an overdose of prescription meds. It might just be that, if pathology samples still exist, that there was something else in her bloodstream that wasn’t tested for at the time.
The Toodyay businessman, charged with failing to kiss the bare arze of the mythical rainbow serpent – the Wagyl – has had his case adjourned, yet again.
In Australia, in the Twenty first century, we are supposed to take this malarkey seriously?
I was reminded this morning of the pernicious nature of OZ irrational anti nukism and its unquestioning acceptance by almost everyone.
Close friends came to visit us in France. One of their requests was that we book them into a chateau on the Loire for a few days. We did so although I had never seen the place.
It turned out that the pIace was in relatively close proximinity to nuke.
They refused to stay there, which left me utterly breathless.
The “police misconduct” thing won’t fly, because that isn’t “evidence”. It was merely defence counsel spit-balling in front of a jury.
The Court of Appeal will bin that by 10:02 day one in the absence of hard evidence of evidence tampering.
Because it wasn’t explored?
He seems to assume that she ingested the substances voluntarily and possibly overdosed.
Not leaving a note seems very strange for someone who was driven to suicide by her psycho ex, but still had a loving extended family.
Also, choosing alcohol as a partial medium to suicide is an unusual thing for a non-drinker to do.
Didn’t we go through this already with the gay wedding cake saga? The business can choose who it trades with, and to a large degree how.
What exactly could the AFP do anyway? Form a Bakery Brigade?
Sweets With Appearance of Terror (SWAT) team.
Flan Force, LOL.
What, the Wagyl still can’t be reached for comment?Methinks the lack of flood/drought/dissapeared children indicates things are a-OK in the Dreamtime realm. Case dismissed. The lawyers acting for the Wagyl, or the trustees for Wagyl Inc Pty Ltd, can pay damages, too.
How true … and what a comb-over!
Dr Faustus
June 26, 2024 3:47 pm
Sancho Panzer @ 9:25 am
Ooooh.
That is a very steep curve!
(Thanks for that. It is bookmarked so I can watch the decline).
At least we drinkers will be okay if we live near a nuke plant. 😀
Thanks Dr F.
We had a very mild Autumn down here, and the Iona storage has dropped from 23,000 to below 15,000 in about 4-5 weeks.
But no doubt ‘Conomies ‘o Scale will kick in at some point.
Yes. Which accounts for AEMO squeezing a little poo of fright.
Particularly given that Iona is a depleted gas field – which, despite a buffer, makes extraction on demand of the last gas in the working storage less assured.
Cultural cringe update: today I bought a couple of tins of 400-gram Woolworths house brand “peeled Italian tomatoes” on special for $1.10 each, which I will turn into delicious vegetarian pasta later in the week.
I would much prefer tomatoes grown in the Murray Valley in Shepparton, but apparently modern Australian consumers believe it will taste better if it is grown in Italy.
This reminds me of the 1970s, when Australian writers threw off the cultural cringe which had been compulsory in the Australian arts.
Except the Australian cultural cringe is now alive and well. Australia has the best, the least polluted farmland in the world, but we crave the approval of Europe for everything, including our food.
How long do you give Ms Markle sticking around?
Michael Smith. Seems Hazza isn’t going to inherit Mama’s estate after all…
The Heinz sauce bottle effect?
Yeah, that’s fine, except if you got a cake baked which said something uncool about muzzies or qwerties the AFP would be down on you like a thousand falling brick outhouses.
Someone senses blood in the water:
Greens plan more Palestine resolutions to test Labor MPs
Sydney Morning Herald
delicious vegetarian pasta
crinnnnge
Real aussies eat meat at every meal, and tomatoes in season.
Malarkey we are supposed to take seriously…
“It came after traditional custodian Rod Garlett told the trial that changes to the waterway could disturb the Wagyl, also known as the Rainbow Serpent, which could curse his people, leading to sickness and even death.
Move to scrap the trial failsMr Maddox’s lawyer, former federal attorney general Christian Porter earlier failed to have the case thrown out on the grounds the state had failed to demonstrate enough evidence.”
Very interesting article on primogeniture in the Anglo world, as suddenly seems to have Mr Markle’s cousin’s sister’s spokesperson’s sourcesclosetothepalace a bit miffed.
Tho, as pointed out by some Cat not too long ago, a pattern of behaviour by state supreme courts overturning explicit Wills in favour of group-hug distribution of assets lately has seemingly punted us in the direction of Napoleonic inheritance laws.
Cultural significance explained
Ballardong man Rod Garlett told the trial the river’s tributaries were like veins in a human body, providing life to the land.
“If your vein is blocked you become sick, your body doesn’t work,” he said.
“That slow water that comes from tributaries are places where mothers would give birth to children … they are places for ceremony.”
He said the waterway was linked to the Wagyl, highly significant in his cultural beliefs.
“He was our creator … today our people are snake people for the river land for my mother’s people,” Mr Garlett said.
He said it was difficult to separate the different categories of sites, such as ceremonial and spiritual, as they are delineated by the existing Aboriginal Heritage Act.
“They are all connected, and they have been for 65,000 years,” he said.
“It’s about life, it’s about mother earth. It’s about a living, breathing entity that we live on today.”
I’d aver the quality of our literary and other arts was better prior to the ’70s.
Cultural cringe or not.
It came after traditional custodian Rod Garlett told the trial that changes to the waterway could disturb the Wagyl, also known as the Rainbow Serpent.
Could he sue the Wagyl for intruding into his waterway without written permission?
Dover
How strongly would you feel if there was a Russian version of Julian Assange and a Russian WikiLeaks exposing Russian intelligence? Would they be seen as a hero or not so much?
Would you want him freed or executed?
Went to my local gay
bathhousebakehouseOrdered a gluten-free halal vego mud cake with “The AFP is right about Allah being right about The Gays” in (edible) rainbow lettering, organic of course.
Dude looks me up and down over the top of his Oscar Wylees and says, “You, dear, couldn’t afford the deposit”
The Heinz sauce bottle effect?
Yes a bit of that. Also, torturing the food analogy, a bit of sucking hard on a straw at the bottom of an ice filled glass for the last few mouthfuls and getting noises but no beverage.
Yes, well.
It is common knowledge that if tomatoes are peeled by an Italian, someone who has been to Italy or who is of Italian descent, they are Italian tomatoes.
FFS, Sky News: shrieking females is not entertainment.
No tough Labor: rat in Labor ranks Fatima Payman gets off virtually scot-free
I dunno, she won’t be allowed to play in the bouncy castle with the other boys and girls..
We have a handsome boy for PM who is scared shitless of muzzies and the chunks and believes in man made global farting and that renewables work. What could go wrong?
Great literary works of the 21st Century!
Man arrested with knife outside politician’s office after sending manifesto to public figures threatening mass-killing (Sky News ,26 Jun)
So this 19 year old was reciting his 200 page opus outside the Labor MP’s office whilst waving a knife?
I’m all ears about what he was saying, but I seriously expect never to hear what it was.
“Alleged suicide”
Are we taking dibs on Assange???
Hmmmm
More than four hours since I challenged mUntyfa to produce evidence to back a claim he made yesterday. I am coming to the conclusion that there is no such evidence, and he just made it up.
Depends on what he has on Hillary. She’s been out and about this week, and has a new book on release. Pick me, pick me!
Righty memesters are quick!
breaking
Kingsley Pickett: Recidivist who killed pregnant mum, son in high-speed crash removes tracker after releaseRebecca Le MayThe West Australian
Wed, 26 June 2024 4:09PM
One of WA’s worst criminals is back behind bars after allegedly removing his GPS tracker and committing other offences.
Kingsley Arnold Pickett was being kept behind bars indefinitely under a continuing detention order for high-risk serious offenders imposed in 2020 because there was an unacceptable risk he would commit further major crimes.
His long list of convictions includes the death of pregnant mother Margaret Blurton and her one-year-old son Shane on Boxing Day 1991 after a high-speed crash in a stolen vehicle and the rape of a 27-year-old woman during a violent home invasion in Cloverdale during a five-day crime spree in 1998.
Supreme Court of WA Justice Anthony Derrick rescinded Pickett’s indefinite imprisonment order in February.
But the 46-year-old was back in the same court via videolink from Hakea Prison on Wednesday, when Justice Joseph McGrath imposed an interim detention order pending the outcome of fresh charges.
Court documents show Mr Pickett has been charged with five counts of contravening a requirement of a supervision order, four counts of trespass, one count of criminal or destruction of property and one count of using amphetamines.
If he only knew about the Rainbow serpent?
Yes Clinton has been sounding off a bit lately. A truly foul creature that won’t go away.
Hillary Clinton Pressuring Hollywood to Target Young Children with Climate Change Propaganda (breitbart.com)
Hillary Clinton Swoons over ‘Wise and Decent’ Biden Ahead of Trump Debate (breitbart.com)
Clinton, Pelosi, Waters or Warren? Which is the foulest of them all?
I can recommend “Napolina” brand tinned tomatoes … grown, processed and tinned in Italy, Puglia, by an Italian family-owned company.
The Four Freedoms | Introduction | Religion, Speech, Association, Property
Hang On, Is THIS Why Assange Was Freed?
Any one know why “Flash” hasn’t updated its opinion shows
…because your’e the farm
Redeye flight to Sydney later this evening, via Melbourne if you don’t mind, in a several-days-long pursuit of smallgoodsery.
Lots of direct flights to Darwin, but not from Darwin.
It’s been eleven years since I graced that fair town. Hills and rivers everywhere, making it an impossibility to go as the crow flies – unlike everywhere else.
I do hope the rampant poofery is less obvious now.
The UK continues to head for troubled waters in the latest Ipsos poll:
No comeback for the Tories.
This poll (via the FT poll of polls) suggests that intention to vote for Reform has plateaued – indicating one or two parliamentary seats. However, 35% of Brits still think they may change their minds, so who knows…
The bright spot is that the Greens vote fell – pointing to no representation aside from Brighton, City of Sodomy.
The really dull spot is that only 50% of Brits think it matters who wins, a stonking FMD conclusion in these troubled times.
It wan’t misconduct it was procedure …they did’t follow procedure and it screwed everything up
allegedly there was much info that never got presented (don’t ask how i know)
the Andrews’ family car collects a cyclist and procedure isnt very important at all
now a likely serial killer has a loophole and apparently procedure does matter
go figure
Secondhand EVs now cost less than used gas cars – as the electric vehicle backlash accelerates
Court Docs Show Pics From Mar-A-Lago Raid Were Part Of Media Stunt
I’ll see your Italian tomatoes and raise you…. American cherries.
300 grams punnet grown in USA selling in central Qld for $7.50
How is this even possible ?
Anybody know if it’s true that Albanese has just got his bill to ban the live sheep trade, through the Lower House?
Mmm…poll them again after 18 months of Labour.
It is true.
Kate Chaney – Teal member for Curtin, changed her mind at the last minute & voted against the bill (i.e. she voted to retain the live sheep trade)
Yes there’s a website called ‘tomato news’.
It’s a little bit hard for me to believe that fresh tomatoes are shipped from China to Italy, they’d have to be picked green or shipped by air and given the price of tinned tomatoes from Italy it seems unlikely.
It’s seems it’s Chinese tomato paste and the ‘packaged in Italy’ stuff goes to Africa and the ME.
The EU is pretty ruthless about this sort of thing.
https://www.tomatonews.com/en/chinese-tomato-products-anicav-clarifies-the-situation_2_1833.html
The Dunny Brush flew to Saipan to greet the Creep!
Rumours that he is going to have another go at OZ politics are probably true. You can see the ticket – “Malcom and Me”
God it is so depressing.
When I was a kid a relative grew tomatoes commercially.
I loved to work the grading machine.
They were picked mostly green and then gas ripened, we only ate fresh home grown and it’s why I now only buy hydroponic, at least they smell like tomatoes.
I tried growing them myself years ago but the water rats, which are plentiful around here, picked them and hid them in the garden (I found their stash)so that was the end of that.
Apropos of Italy & tomatoes, Here’s a nifty video of the 2022 tomato harvest. Farmer types may be interested.
Part of the broader field of tractor videos.
Why didn’t you buy Aussie ones?
chrisl
June 26, 2024 6:58 pm
I still remember ViTrioli on their ABC telling a Shepparton tomato grower that “Italian tomatoes are superior and she, because Italian genes, had the palate to discern the difference”.
The grower put up with this shit for about five minutes before the gauntlet was thrown down.
“I will be back tomorrow with a selection of tomatoes for a blind taste test”.
She laughed it off, but he persisted.
She declined.
As though Italians invented the tomato.
LGBTQI+ troops in the Ukrainian front line fight homophobia at home:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd1140yv03po
From the BBC, but out-gaying even our GayBC.
“Here have a gum leaf”… tonight’s welcome to country state of oranges.
They think tank up shit to say.
ViTrioli grew up in Melbourne’s eastern suburbs. Her dad most likely grew tomatoes, Australian ones.
How the hell did they make tomato sauce 500 years ago?
🙂
They didn’t. Disinformation. Fake news.
It is common knowledge among the informed that tomatoes were invented by the CSIRO in 1931 to prevent ‘green only’ salad riots.
Well, yes. By an Italian guy named Christopher Columbus. 😀
I’d like to shake his hand, especially for spag bol and pizzas, but his hand is probably a bit dried out an icky these days. Potatoes also are yummy. Thanks to Ferdinand and Isabella for backing him!
The last bloke to hit the ground had some serious AIR time.
—–
Steve Inman:
The robbers escape plan crumbled.
https://rumble.com/v53t93o-the-robbers-escape-plan-crumbled..html
Yet as soon as any of the aboriginals feels unwell they call the Flying Doctor service.
How many of the indigenous women have given birth near the water? Any at all?
I would be more likely to believe that they believe this if not for their insistence on modern medicine to be laid on for them in the traditional regions. They can’t have it both ways.
Birthing trees, birthing waters.
I’m not convinced there was any special place.
BLAG rules J6 committee illegitimate. Calling Monty, monty …
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/06/breaking-big-news-steve-bannon-bipartisan-legal-advisory/ link
69% of US Jews vote demorat:
Party affiliation of US voters by religious group | Pew Research Center
As good a definition of insanity as you’ll get.
A lot of important stuff came from the Americas. Not in any order.
Tomato, corn, potato, coffee, cocoa, sweet potatoes, death squads, child sacrifice, drug cartels, cocaine.
The 4% inflation rate announcement is a zinger.
I suspect we’re in the accord, mark 3. They keep feeding inflation through annual wage increases and more restrictive labor practices without even a smidgeon of productivity increase.
The only way inflation comes down is through tighter RBA policy until we go into a decent recession.
This could very end up as a one term government.
There needs to be a constitutional amendment banning any big eared stupid treasurers from Queensland..
Assange looks like Sir Les Patterson.
A verandah over the tool shed and the strides hanging on for dear life.
If Assange has been locked away for more than a decade, why are his children under five years old?
Turkey baster by Post?
The economist reported that despite all the bullshit about da China’s Yuan becoming a reserve currency, holdings have actually stalled.
JC
June 26, 2024 9:48 pm
And tobacco.
Oh, that’s right.
You’re trying to forget.
Bob Newhart did a skit years ago based on a phone call from Sir Walter Raleigh explaining tobacco to his boss back in London, England.
“You, what?!? You set fire to it?”
Sanchez
Of course, how could I forget filtered cigs came out of there.
I don’t believe that number, Cronkite. I suspect Jews being contacted are too ashamed to say they’re voting Trump/GOP.
Look, the big rump of the Jewish vote is in NY and polls are suggesting that Trump is actually within 6% and closing. He’s not going to win NY, but he could actually get close.
Any American Jew voting Demon needs serious psychiatric care.
Got a robocall in Bishop”s old seat of Curtin. Must be 50:50 whether Albo can even make it to2025.
Why are the origins of Covid being covered up? – Senate Estimates 5.6.24
Senator Gerard Rennick
For those who are whining about the timescale and cost of nuclear, there are a lot projects that take longer and cost more, yet were built.
If you don’t start you never finish.
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Forty-seven years ago today, first oil entered the Trans Alaska Pipeline System, changing Alaska’s history overnight.
Since that historic day, more than 18 billion barrels have moved through TAPS.
The pipeline project involved some 70,000 workers from 1969 through 1977 and it took three years, two months to build. It cost a whopping $8 billion in 1977, making it the largest privately funded construction project at that time.
It took first oil more than a month to reach the Valdez Marine Terminal due to a series of mechanical problems that halted the pipeline’s operation. In Valdez the oil was loaded aboard the tanker ARCO Juneau, which departed August 1 with the first shipment of North Slope crude, nine years after the discovery well at Prudhoe Bay.
For more pipeline facts and tidbits, go here. https://bit.ly/3Rt2gjR
Annualised inflation will lower markedly over the next four months as a string of high-inflation months drop out of calculations. Don’t be a frightbat, JC.
Tucker having fun with the media.
I never like his presentation style, but seeing journos, especially Australian ones mocked to their faces is a beautiful thing.
https://x.com/i/status/1806034521369776406