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Bill From the Bush
Bill From the Bush
January 23, 2025 12:11 am

Well hello there

mizaris
mizaris
January 23, 2025 12:16 am

Morning Bill

Bill From the Bush
Bill From the Bush
January 23, 2025 12:24 am
Reply to  mizaris

Only 9 o’clock here and still 40 degrees

mizaris
mizaris
January 23, 2025 12:17 am

Not a lot going on then??

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
January 23, 2025 12:19 am

Just hanging around

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
January 23, 2025 12:35 am

Have to go to Perth tomorrow to see some crappy band play in some crappy sand quarry.
I hate Perth.
I used to be take-it-or-leave-it, now I just hate it.
And I hate outdoor “festival” gigs. I always have.

Bruce in WA
January 23, 2025 12:38 am
Reply to  Wally Dalí

Shite. Gonna be warmish there! Bold Park??

mizaris
mizaris
January 23, 2025 1:04 am
Reply to  Wally Dalí

I totally boycott any Perth Festival stuff.

Pete of Perth
Pete of Perth
January 23, 2025 1:58 am
Reply to  Wally Dalí

I went to see a comedy duo in Northbridge last night. Got a laugh here and there but tooo much swearing for my taste. Yippee down to 29C at 11pm.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
January 23, 2025 5:43 am
Reply to  Pete of Perth

Very few comedians are actually that.
They fall into two groups:
Toilet humour – point at or make a joke about a toilet – laughter.
Sweary humour – every second word is “F*CK – edgy laughter.
No longer funny, just boring.

Bruce in WA
January 23, 2025 12:36 am

Thinking about beddie-byes but a bit early yet (9.35 pm) Fecking 40 degrees again tomorrow. Sick of it.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
January 23, 2025 12:46 am

Bruce in WA
 January 23, 2025 12:36 am

Thinking about beddie-byes but a bit early yet (9.35 pm) Fecking 40 degrees again tomorrow. Sick of it.

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You are not alone.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
January 23, 2025 12:57 am

A mild 16 and a bit in Melbourne atm. Will heat up a bit over the next few days.

At least that Andrews carnt has gone. But still suffering that Jacinta carnt.

Suffered 3 months of it so far. At least the local serves schooners for $8

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
January 23, 2025 5:44 am
Reply to  Barking Toad

Yep, can’t afford to drink in the big smoke.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
January 23, 2025 12:59 am
John H.
John H.
January 23, 2025 1:05 am

ChatGPT

Isn’t it true that philosophers who haven’t kept themselves updated with developments in neuroscience continue to believe in existence of mind as an entity?

Yes, many philosophers who have not engaged with contemporary neuroscience might maintain traditional or dualistic views of the mind as an independent, non-physical entity. This perspective, often associated with Cartesian dualism, posits that the mind and body are fundamentally distinct.

However, developments in neuroscience challenge this view by increasingly demonstrating that mental processes correlate with and depend on brain activity. These findings have led to the growing influence of physicalist and materialist perspectives, which argue that the mind arises from and is inseparable from the physical brain.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
January 23, 2025 1:27 am

Skiting alert: My artwork has been recognised! Libs of TikTok used an image that was created by me.
I feel sooooooooo important.

This isn’t as high up the totem pole as, say, the shoeshine boy who shined Trump’s shoes before the inaugural ball, but us nobodies take small wins when we get them!

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
January 23, 2025 5:52 am

Well, put it up for us to critique it.

Tom
Tom
January 23, 2025 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
January 23, 2025 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
January 23, 2025 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
January 23, 2025 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
January 23, 2025 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
January 23, 2025 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
January 23, 2025 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
January 23, 2025 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
January 23, 2025 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
January 23, 2025 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
January 23, 2025 4:10 am
KevinM
KevinM
January 23, 2025 4:30 am

Tired soldiers.

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KevinM
KevinM
January 23, 2025 4:31 am

Jubilant soldiers.

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KevinM
KevinM
January 23, 2025 4:33 am

Interesting snippet, not many know, I didn’t.

“In the early days of air travel, the first stewardesses were required to be registered nurses.”

KevinM
KevinM
January 23, 2025 4:37 am

You can survive in farming but luck also helps.

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Tarndwarncoort is one of Victoria’s oldest surviving homesteads + the continuation of one of Australia’s oldest family sheep farms.

Tarndie (or more respectfully, Tarndwarncoort) is based in South Western Victoria, Australia and has been owned and operated by the Dennis family since 1840.
The property is home to Australia’s first breed of sheep, the Polwarth sheep and its listed buildings reflect the Cornish heritage of the pioneer family.

The Polwarth County was typified by grassy plains, lakes, creeks, swamps, and ancient volcanic soils. These natural attributes, when matched with the graziers resolve to continually improve their farms and sheep, provided the impetus to breed a type of sheep to suit this environment.
The Polwarth Sheep was the result.

The family links to Tarndwarncoort started with Emma and Alexander Dennis when they left their shrinking family farm in Cornwall, UK in 1839. It was on the advice of Emma’s ship captain brother that new farmlands were discovered in “Australia Felix”.

They landed 615 Merino sheep at Point Henry in Geelong and found a suitable run at Tarndwarncoort by 1840. Here they began a dynasty of innovative farming that has seen boom and bust over 7 generations.
Polwarth Sheep are naturally white; however, Tarndie has a specialised flock of black and coloured sheep in unique and sought-after shades.

The members of the first original flock still grow at Tarndwarncoort, and their wool is treasured by crafters all over the world.

Source: Tarndwarncoort

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Winston Smith
Winston Smith
January 23, 2025 6:00 am
Reply to  KevinM

Interesting snippet. Especially about the colours. Any rainbow ones?
I don’t suppose they breed up too well.

KevinM
KevinM
January 23, 2025 4:39 am

All cats will get it.

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Pogria
Pogria
January 23, 2025 5:10 am
Reply to  KevinM

chuckle!

LB2
LB2
January 23, 2025 5:33 am
Reply to  KevinM

Morning, KevinM!

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KevinM
KevinM
January 23, 2025 4:43 am

Sometimes a handful of luck is worth more than a bucketful of brain.

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The Defenestration of Prague: How Three Men Falling Sparked Europe’s Deadliest War

On a warm May morning in 1618, three men took an unexpected flight from a window of Prague Castle. Their 70-foot plunge into history would ignite a conflict that would ravage Europe for the next three decades.

The stage was set in Bohemia, modern-day Czech Republic. Protestant nobles were seething. The Catholic Emperor Matthias had broken his promise of religious freedom. Something had to give.
That something was the patience of Count Thurn and his fellow Protestant lords. They stormed into the Bohemian Chancellery, grabbed two Catholic regents and their secretary, and unceremoniously chucked them out the window.

Now, you might think a fall from such a height would be fatal. But our three unwilling aeronauts had a stroke of luck – or divine intervention, depending on who you ask. They landed in a pile of manure. Stinky? Yes. Lifesaving?

Absolutely.

Catholics cried miracle, claiming angels had cushioned the fall. Protestants scoffed, crediting good old-fashioned horse droppings. Either way, the men survived.

But while they lived, peace died that day. The “Defenestration of Prague” (that’s fancy talk for “tossing folks out windows”) lit the fuse of the Thirty Years’ War. This conflict would redraw Europe’s religious and political map, leaving millions dead in its wake.

It wasn’t the first time Prague had seen such window-based political statements. A similar incident in 1419 had kicked off the Hussite Wars. But this one?
This one would change the course of European history.

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Black Ball
Black Ball
January 23, 2025 5:11 am

Andrew Bolt:

Anthony Albanese still can’t see how he’s helped to unleash a catastrophe – anti-Jewish terrorism in our country.

No wonder the Prime Minister, under intense pressure, seized on the theory floated by Australian Federal Police commissioner Reece Kershaw that “overseas actors” were whipping it up.

“It is important that people understand where some of these attacks are coming from,” Albanese said on Wednesday.

“It would appear, as the AFP commissioner said on Tuesday, that some of these are being perpetrated by people who don’t have a particular issue, aren’t motivated by an ideology, but are paid actors.

“It’s unclear who or where the payments are coming from.”

How glad Albanese must be for anything which might suggest our nation’s Jew hatred has nothing to do with his anti-Israel rabble-rousing-inciting scum.

How politically useful if he can claim that the people terrifying Jews and firebombing synagogues, cars and even childcare centres “aren’t motivated by an ideology” like Islam, but are just paid by foreigners.

For operational reasons, Kershaw isn’t saying what information he’s got to back up his suggestion that “local criminals” may be paid by foreign players in cryptocurrency to attack Jewish targets here, but it’s not hard to guess who he seems to be talking about.

The opposition speculates it could be Iran, but I doubt the Iran embassy knows how to safely contact and pay local criminals to torch things.

But there are organisations which certainly do, already burning down scores of buildings in Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide.

Middle Eastern crime gangs, especially from Victoria, are fighting over the illegal tobacco trade in a war that’s so far had about 200 shops set on fire, including 131 in Victoria and 14 in Sydney.

Many senior gang figures now live overseas, almost always in Muslim countries.

It’s a guess why they might now be burning Jewish targets. To pose as Muslim heroes? Please protectors overseas?

Or have they been recruited by some country to create havoc here?

In fact, Britain’s MI5 last year said Iran had used international drug traffickers and even low-level crooks for 20 plots targeting people in Britain.

Investigators in Germany and France last September said Iranian agents used European drug traffickers to spy on Jews in France and Germany.

But there are organisations which certainly do, already burning down scores of buildings in Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide.

Middle Eastern crime gangs, especially from Victoria, are fighting over the illegal tobacco trade in a war that’s so far had about 200 shops set on fire, including 131 in Victoria and 14 in Sydney.

Many senior gang figures now live overseas, almost always in Muslim countries.

It’s a guess why they might now be burning Jewish targets. To pose as Muslim heroes? Please protectors overseas?

Like I said, Kershaw won’t comment, but however glad Albanese of this theory, he’s a fool if he thinks it saves him.

“Overseas actors” haven’t bashed Jews in our streets, screamed abuse at Jews outside synagogues, chanted “where’s the Jews” outside the Sydney Opera House, preached Jew hatred in mosques, menaced Jewish students at universities, abused Jewish artists at performances and in a thousand different ways made Jews feel persecuted like never before in this country.

Even these “overseas actors” burning synagogues may well be Australians.

And now Albanese doesn’t understand how he’s making it all worse.

He should have known 15 months ago, on the day Hamas slaughtered 1200 Jews, that we’re in a war to defend Western civilisation.

That’s clear just from the protesters NSW police have arrested since that October 7 massacre – almost always Muslims, or Marxists or assorted haters of Australia, Israel and the West.

They’ve arrested 180 of them, 40 for specifically anti-Jewish offences. Jews or supporters of Israel don’t break laws and get arrested in those numbers.

But Albanese wouldn’t see it. Seemingly greedy for votes of Muslims and the hard Left, he betrayed Israel in the United Nations. He urged Israel to stop fighting for its survival. He gave tourism visas to 3000 Palestinians from Gaza.

He kept legitimising the Jew haters by attacking Israel, and now can only tut-tut about how they express that hatred.

He won’t even call out the trick Jew haters use to pretend they’re not really racists.

They say, no, they don’t hate Jews. They just hate Zionists – supporters of Israel, home of half the world’s Jews.

They then shamelessly repeat all the ancient Jew-hating smears, just substituting “Jews” for “Zionists”. Zionists control the world. Zionists control the media. Zionists love blood. Zionists murder babies.

What a failure Albanese has been.

Since Albanese is quoting the AFP, here’s former AFP Detective Superintendent David Craig, who summed up bluntly this week.

“I’ve served under six different PMs in the AFP, a lot of my time in counter terrorism, I’ve never seen such a spineless response to hatred and un-Australian behaviour by a PM.”

With voice wavering and lip quivering, you can see it’s all becoming a bit much for Albo. The latest garbage about foreign actors is just that. Complete arrogance to suggest Australians will swallow it.
Is it too much to dream that he will lose his seat in the upcoming election?

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
January 23, 2025 6:06 am
Reply to  Black Ball

Anthony Albanese still can’t see how he’s helped to unleash a catastrophe – anti-Jewish terrorism in our country.

Of course he can. It’s deliberate – one of Communisms main strategies for fomenting yet another crisis is to divide a nation into political groups. And that’s precisely what this pile of shit is doing – creating a Nation of Tribes so he can set them against each other.

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feelthebern
feelthebern
January 23, 2025 6:06 am

Goodbye to Joe Biden, and Whoever Was President the Last Four Years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT4tXFe1gVA

The audible of Taibbi’s sub stack.
The next time you have a 30min drive, good listening.

  1. This is like Gates talking about cures for diseases. These folk should stick to their core competencies.

  2. Goodbye to Joe Biden, and Whoever Was President the Last Four Years https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT4tXFe1gVA The audible of Taibbi’s sub stack. The…

  3. Anthony Albanese still can’t see how he’s helped to unleash a catastrophe – anti-Jewish terrorism in our country.Of course he…

  4. Interesting snippet. Especially about the colours. Any rainbow ones? I don’t suppose they breed up too well.

  5. General rule in navies is to have three. One operational, one training people or busted, and one being refitted.

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