Open Thread – Weekend 12 April 2025


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cohenite
April 13, 2025 10:19 am

And finally the perfect riposte to the bullshit from the left that J6 was an insurrection against the Capital:

(1) Facebook

Muddy
Muddy
April 13, 2025 10:55 am
Reply to  cohenite

Huh. I did not know that.
How surprising that the meeja omitted to inform the public regarding this precedent!

iggie
iggie
April 13, 2025 1:35 pm
Reply to  Muddy
Muddy
Muddy
April 13, 2025 10:23 am

No doubt this has been mentioned by others, but it won’t hurt to repeat. Idly scrolling through the readers’ memes for this week’s Week in Pictures, I came across one that shot my blood pressure right up.

I have no idea if the alleged news is true, but I believe the image itself is real: It is from the immediate aftermath of the 7th of October, with five ‘men’ in the back of a ute, and the prone body of a female alleged to have been Shani Louk, lying like an animal carcass.

The text – Marina Medvin account – claims that these five have all been killed. Part of me hopes so, but the darker part of me wants to know that they were tortured and mutilated first. That comment may come back to bite me in the future, but so be it.

I’ll cut this short as I feel myself getting very ‘worked up’ but EVERY apologist for h@m@rza (g@z@+h@m@s) is an enabler and accessory-after-the-fact of sexual violence and homicide. Ignorance is no excuse, because in this over-informed age, people CHOOSE to be ignorant.

I’ve always resisted joining the chorus of ‘kill ’em all’ because life has taught em there are always exceptions to the rule, but images like this make it extremely difficult to maintain that objectivity. When a significant percentage of the population agree that the hunting, rape and mutilation murder of unarmed civilians is acceptable … It makes fear humanity is doomed.

P.S. A quick internet search reveals that almost all so-called ‘news’ outlets refer to Louk’s murder using the neutral ‘killing.’

The meeja are predators.

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cohenite
April 13, 2025 10:26 am
Reply to  Muddy

Kill them all. There you go I’ve said it for you.

Muddy
Muddy
April 13, 2025 10:52 am
Reply to  Muddy

… life has taught ME, not ’em’… *Sigh*

… makes ME fear …

Oh, bugger it!
*Mutters to self about something or other.*

johnjjj
johnjjj
April 13, 2025 10:59 am
Reply to  Muddy

It is rare in a Muz society that the extended family ( it can be up to 200) does not know what the main men are doing. It may not be exact, but they all know. The eldest son ( when you see the prefix Abu it is that the person is name after his eldest son, e.g Abu Ali, father of Ali) is looked on as the future and protector ( and fighter). They are all complicit in what happened. The same in Australia. They all know.
Note this does not work for sudden converts. But the boys at the mosque know.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 13, 2025 10:24 am

In Your Money at Work news:

In addition to the $33bn/1.2 million new houses scheme, Labor is about to announce a $10bn/100,000 new houses for first time buyers scheme.

Not yet clear how this is going to work, who’s going to build $100,000 homes, or where, or if this is a gift to the lucky – but it’s very clear the Australian housing problem is well and truly fixed, unicorns can run free, and the Greens can far cough.

Meanwhile the Coalition has come up with a version of the UK mortgage interest tax deduction scheme.

In what would be a controversial but historic structural change to the nation’s tax system, the policy would mean a family on average incomes would be about $11,000 a year better off — or $55,000 over five years.

Uncosted and probably full of detail devils but, by taking the dead hand of government out of the construction process, appears a fairly smart policy response in the election bidding war.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 13, 2025 10:41 am
Reply to  Dr Faustus

Another bastardisation of the tax system. Spud doing a good job of losing another unloseable election.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 13, 2025 11:41 am
Reply to  H B Bear

Unfortunately, correct.

JC
JC
April 13, 2025 10:32 am

Gold accumulation is only a last-resort measure, a desperate purchase when a country is concerned about holding financial assets. Both the purchase and potential sale are costly, as the gold market is around $250 billion a day—tiny and relatively expensive to transact.

The foreign exchange market turns over approximately $8 trillion per day, with at least 70% or more being dollar-related.

“Shina” operates a fixed exchange rate tied to the US dollar. It would be impossibly difficult to manage such a system with gold reserves.

For countries, gold is a buy-and-hold strategy, not one for managing a fixed exchange rate unless you’re paranoid and scared.

JC
JC
April 13, 2025 11:06 am
Reply to  JC

Imagine the run-around using gold as your medium of exchange for external transactions.

A Chinese oil importer approaches Aramco, the Saudi oil company, and asks to buy a load of oil costing, say, $100 million at the spot price denominated in dollars, which is, say, $50 a barrel.
The Chinese buyer wants to pay in gold bars. Aramco has two options:

  1. It can refuse and insist on dollars.
  2. It can accept the deal.

If Aramco accepts, it must confirm receipt of the gold shipment through a complex process and then price the sale of the gold on the gold market, which is difficult and costly. It would then need to receive the gold bars, transport them to a gold exchange, and sell them for dollars.
The transaction could also be done digitally, but the cost of selling the gold would still fall on the Chinese buyer.
The Chinese could offer gold backing for the yuan, as they considered a few years ago when discussing a gold-backed yuan. However, this would mean that anyone holding gold-backed yuan would need to trust the Chinese government to honor demands for gold at any time. Good luck with that.

Now, the world could go back to a gold standard, but that’s very different and highly unlikely.

flyingduk
flyingduk
April 13, 2025 12:08 pm
Reply to  JC

It could be done cheaply, securely, instantly and irreversibly by using a gold backed cryptocurrency…. such as already exists. Governments resist letting people know that gold is money to prop up their fiat money printing business

JC
JC
April 13, 2025 12:42 pm
Reply to  flyingduk

Don’t walk away from this question like you usually do, Duk.

What’s stopping you or anyone else from using gold or crypto right now to make transactions? Don’t say the government, because there’s no law preventing you from exchanging gold for a bar of soap.

Go!

Hugh
Hugh
April 13, 2025 7:16 pm
Reply to  JC

I would be very glad to take your gold and give you a bar of soap in exchange. Do we have a deal?

JC
JC
April 13, 2025 7:46 pm
Reply to  Hugh

Hughey, you’re very basic: even a tad primitive. Nothing is stopping you or the duck from conducting transactions in gold bullion.

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 13, 2025 10:33 am

If I was the Iranians I wouldn’t give up my nukes either. Look what happened to others who did.
I’d be surprised if they didn’t already have quite a few ready to go. They’ve gone the enrich uranium via centifuge method (the Manhattan Project chose gaseous diffusion which turned out to be a mistake). U235 crude bombs are easy to make using a gun type weapon (Hiroshima – not even tested before first use) although the implosion method invented for Plutonium will get more bombs for same U235.
If the implosion method could be figured out in 1943-44 not knowing if it could ever work, the Iranians can do it now, knowing it can be done.
Now we are proposing to initiate use of force against them. Hmmm.

damon
damon
April 13, 2025 10:40 am
Reply to  Eyrie

I think the US should declare, unequivocally, that if an atomic bomb explodes anywhere in the West (including Israel) Tehran will be wiped off the map.

JC
JC
April 13, 2025 10:50 am
Reply to  damon

You’d believe that under Trump. Fast forward to 28 or 32 and Newsom or someone like Walz is president. Would you believe that declaration would hold up? Of course you wouldn’t.

Lee
Lee
April 13, 2025 12:46 pm
Reply to  JC

I see that revolting fat pig, Walz, was booed by veterans very recently.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
April 13, 2025 10:53 am
Reply to  damon

Yeah, great strategy.

You are aware, I trust, that Iran has signed a treaty with Russia on defence.
Given that Al Capone couldn’t beat shepherds armed only with fertiliser bombs in the Hindu Kush, to think they could prevail against the most powerful nuclear nation on earth, is mere folly.

Good thought though.

Zatara
Zatara
April 13, 2025 11:18 am

Israeli F-35s eviscerated the Iranian air defense system including destroying all of Iran’s Russian made S-300 surface to air missile systems last year.

Not a peep from Russia.

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Zippster
Zippster
April 13, 2025 1:48 pm

Russia wont launch on the US if US nukes iran. Why commit suicide for a bunch of death cultists goat herders

Chris
Chris
April 13, 2025 1:25 pm
Reply to  damon

Sorry but westerners seriously underestimate Iranian bloody-mindedness. This would be treated with derisive dismissal, then you would Find Out.
First strike, everything at once.

JC
JC
April 13, 2025 11:11 am
Reply to  dover0beach

Why not? If the Iranian people managed to get their hands on the your guys, the women beaters, they’d rip them into shreds. What’s so bad about the Libyan model then?

JC
JC
April 13, 2025 11:55 am
Reply to  dover0beach

Why assume that it would happen in Iran? Sure, there would be heavy duty payback for the regime suckholes, but what’s wrong with that?

You were balling about Syria mving from the Russian supported Ba’athist regime. Other than the recent reprisal by Assad’s tribe, things appear to have settled down and recent polling shows the population is with the current government.

JC
JC
April 13, 2025 12:38 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Yes it has.

JC
JC
April 13, 2025 1:35 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

The converse is that because they aren’t being reported, they must be or are happening.

The rough estimate is that the Ba’thist regime’s civil war was responsible for 500,000 dead. Come back when the number dead this time around gets to 500,001.

In any event there’s always payback when a brutal regime falls in the Mid East. Let’s hope it gets done quickly and Syrians can get on with their lives.

JC
JC
April 13, 2025 3:34 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Oh yeah, “the press” never ignored it the first round, but it would this time. How convenient.

This sounds like a version the Hamas triple counting crap. Are your Telegrammers using Gazan made calculators? Of course, your telegram mates aren’t peddling ba’athist propaganda. It would never happen.

There is some payback and also the Alawites were responsible for creating mischief.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 13, 2025 3:24 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Killary again.

Beertruk
April 13, 2025 10:38 am

Worth while posting Janet’s op-ed from the Oz:

How one of our finest legal scholars was cancelled in the court of #MeToo

Dyson Heydon was not accused of sexual assault, or pedophilia, or gruesome serial murders. Nonetheless, his grave punishment came in fast and furious as progressives sought not only his cancellation, but his obliteration.

Janet Albrechtsen
3:10PMApril 11, 2025.Updated 3:25PMApril 11, 2025

A senior judge strolling down York Street in Sydney’s CBD in late February stopped at the window display of Abbey’s Bookshop, Sydney’s famous bookstore. Its No.1 bestseller for nonfiction was not a self-help guide to awaken your truth. Nor was it Michael Lewis’s book about the undoing of democracy. No.1 was Heydon on Contract: Particular Contracts by former High Court justice John Dyson Heydon.

The book, with a price tag of $250, had dropped to second place by the time it was launched at the State Library of NSW in March a few weeks later.

For many years to come, judges, lawyers and law students will benefit from Heydon’s scholarly masterpieces explaining the intricacies of contract law. This latest one is the second volume to his 2019 Heydon on Contract: The General Part.

While many in the legal profession will know at least parts of the story behind the publication of Heydon’s latest volume, it deserves a wider audience.

This is not about a book on contract law. This story concerns the darker instincts of many who mistakenly call themselves “progressive”. To describe their efforts as trying to “cancel” the former High Court judge does not capture the wickedness. Their aim was the obliteration of Dyson Heydon.

In 2020, High Court Chief Justice Susan Kiefel released a statement following an investigation by Vivienne Thom finding Heydon sexually harassed six judges’ associates at the court. Heydon did not take part in the investigation. He has denied the allegations.

Still, if Heydon did engage in harassment, the question became: What should be his punishment? Some appear intent on obliterating in perpetuity Heydon’s legal legacy. It is fortunate that they failed, and that most people do not think as they do.

Former High Court justice Michel Kirby is a legal lion, especially beloved on the left. Scorecards of the High Court’s most “liberal” judges – not Liberal but left-wing liberal – rank Kirby at the top.

Kirby penned the foreword to a book written by one of the High Court’s most unwavering legal conservatives. Words like “magisterial” and “fastidious” and “mastery” leap from these early pages of the book. Heydon’s two volumes on contract “may well be judged as the author’s greatest gift to legal exposition and analysis”, writes Kirby.

In India this week chairing a big international commercial arbitration, Kirby tells Inquirer: “Heydon is a brilliant man with a special talent for synthesising thousands of judicial cases into short, understandable concepts. In the common law system this is a very precious gift.” Heydon’s contract books are invaluable to lawyers who “lack the time or mental inclination or ability to undertake conceptualisation”.

Kirby says he took “mischievous pleasure” in writing the foreword, for the two legal luminaries disagree over many legal issues, including whether the great many and often unruly sources of contract law should be codified for simplicity into a set of principles by parliament – just as India has done.

“I prefer this methodology,” Kirby says, while “Heydon profoundly disagrees … this probably sounds pretty esoteric … But such are the intellectual contests that occupy High Court judges, current and retired.”

The profound respect is captured by Kirby, noting at the end of the foreword that these two volumes “may help to administer the quietus to any lingering dreams of a code of Australian contract law”.

Kirby does not shy away from the scandal that enveloped Heydon.

“As for whatever Justice Heydon may have done (if anything) that redounds to his personal discredit, I leave that to others. He has not been found guilty, after due process, by a judge and jury,” he says.

“My father was a very wise man. He raised his children in the basic Christian traditions of forgiveness and reconciliation. I continue to live my life according to his principles.”

Heydon was not accused of sexual assault, or pedophilia, or gruesome serial murders. Nonetheless, grave punishment came in fast and furious. In her public statement, Kiefel spoke of “the court” being ashamed and “we have made a sincere apology” to the women.

It is rarely noted that Kiefel was speaking on behalf of an employer. Her pronouncements that day were not judicial. But it must have been obvious to the court that her statement would be treated that way. Perhaps that is why, as Inquirer has been told, the High Court at the time was not entirely in support of Kiefel’s statement.

Soon after, Heydon’s publisher Thomson Reuters cancelled all contracts with him. The legal publisher still refuses to publish a second edition of Heydon’s first book on contract – despite high demand for the book. Second-hand copies cannot be located for love or money.

Thomson Reuters did not respond to questions but Inquirer understands the publisher will not licence the copyright to Heydon so that he may seek other avenues for a second edition.

In another shameful chapter to this story, Heydon has been denied access to the law libraries at our courts. Federal Court Chief Justice Debra Mortimer made it clear she did not want Heydon visiting the Federal Court.

Though he was forced to self-publish his second volume on contract law, many people helped to get his most recent book into Abbey’s window display – law students, senior lawyers, barristers, judges, other people in full-time jobs typing chapters after hours and in their holidays.

Heydon chose not to speak to Inquirer for this piece. Nor did distinguished Melbourne King’s Counsel Allan Myers, who launched Heydon’s book in March.

But Inquirer has been told by others that Myers did not mince words, describing the book as a “heroic achievement” and taking aim at Kiefel and Thomson Reuters. Myers used heroic in the Homeric sense. Just as Homer’s heroes faced interference from the gods of Mount Olympus who mirrored “vices and vanities” of mere mortals, so it was for Heydon, forging ahead alone, against the odds and as the controversy exploded, to complete his legal magnum opus.

Heydon’s previous book on contract is frequently cited by our most senior judges. Myers expressed confidence that would continue with the latest volume.

Kirby attended the launch too, along with many other eminent judges and lawyers. The tremendous turnout, a mark of respect for Heydon, included former High Court judges Ian Callinan and Virginia Bell, Acting Chief Justice Julie Ward of the Supreme Court of NSW, Justice Mark Leeming (NSW Court of Appeal), Justice Elisabeth Peden (Supreme Court of NSW), Federal Court judges Michael Lee and Ian Jackman, former chief justice of the Federal Court James Allsop, former NSW Court of Appeal justice Tony Meagher, former justices John Sackar and Carolyn Simpson from the NSW Supreme Court and former Federal Court justice Peter Jacobson.

No one with an ounce of logic or goodwill could have anticipated what followed, or comprehend the desire in some quarters to repeat the worst excesses of the #MeToo movement.

Legal academic Gabrielle Appleby described the “re-embrace of Heydon” at the book launch as a “kick in the guts for women”. Writing in a Nine newspaper, the vociferous supporter of the voice pointed the finger at Abbey’s Bookshop for hosting the launch.

A quick call to the store would have revealed Abbey’s did not host the launch of Heydon’s book. But if it did, what on earth is wrong with a bookshop launching its top-selling book?

Appleby’s outrage was not yet spent. “As I understand, Heydon has also recently attended, at the invitation of a sitting judge, Sydney’s Federal Court building for Friday night drinks. Lawyers Weekly reports its own rumours: it has heard the Law Society has allowed Heydon ‘free access’ to its library for ‘several months’, despite not being a member.”

Professor Appleby, please avert your eyes from a forthcoming review of Heydon’s book in the Australian Bar Review.

Others may wish to know, however, that Federal Court Justice Ian Jackman describes Heydon’s two volumes as “undoubtedly … the finest legal scholarship ever published in Australia”.

Jackman tells Inquirer this week that admirers of Heydon’s writing often share their “favourite phrases from the books”. Should we shame them, too?

One could fill pages exposing the darker instincts of those who imagine they are progressive. But life is too short. Suffice to make these observations.

Appleby directs her outrage at Heydon, the “black letter” judge. The “legalist” Heydon believes in the rule of law, she says, quoting him also in a speech years ago where he said that black-letter judges should possess two traits: “a firm grip on the law” and “total probity”.

The only shock here is that the rule of law may not shine as brightly as it should for an academic trained in the law. As Kirby said, no court, no judge or jury following due process, found Heydon guilty of a crime. For how long is he to be punished by other self-appointed wardens of morality?

Forever? And in what fashion? Appleby has a suggestion.

“The legal profession can’t decry the conduct but not wrestle with this intellectual and precedential legacy,” she writes. Oh, but they can. And they should, because rational people can hold more than one idea in their head, for example, deploring sexual harassment and respecting tremendous contributions to the law.

One wonders whether a murderer who later contributes to society might be treated better than Heydon has been.

In Great Australian Dissents, published in 2016, Appleby describes Heydon’s dissent in Monis v The Queen “as a precisely executed performance, and a ‘great’ dissent, left to wait for the next generation of courageous counter-heroes”.

Shall we pulp the book or will ripping out Appleby’s chapter on the former High Court judge’s dissenting judgment satisfy the obliterators?

In 2024, ACT Chief Justice Lucy McCallum told a forum she had recently re-read Heydon’s judgment in AK v The State of WA where he quoted Lord Devlin’s comments about the importance of juries. In 2021, Devlin’s daughter claimed her late father had sexually assaulted her.

McCallum then said: “Knowing what I now know about … the allegations against both Mr Heydon and Lord Devlin and the nature of those allegations, I re-read that whole passage (by Heydon) … which was interesting in itself and probably worth a whole day’s separate research and discussion.”

What kind of separate research and discussion? How does McCallum imagine that allegations against a judge, unproven in a court of law, be used to reinterpret their legal judgments? If, for example, Heydon formed part of a 4:3 majority in a High Court judgment, should we treat that issue as not settled any more?

The absurdity is outdone only by the danger. If we are to open a Pandora’s box of interest in what judges do off the bench, how far do we go? Should we check whether the messy private lives of some judges are ever reflected in their judicial pronouncements? Do we revisit rumours and accusations about former judges to re-evaluate their judgments? The Magna Carta was written by a bunch of 13th-century barons. If some behaved as heathens, should we reconsider that document’s celebrated place in history as the foundation of the rule of law, a fair trial and other basic rights?

Heydon’s monumental legal and intellectual contributions won’t be diminished by legal minions. Still, we must keep eternal watch on the legal left’s slide into zealotry.

Janet Albrechtsen
Columnist
Janet Albrechtsen is an opinion columnist with The Australian. She has worked as a solicitor in commercial law, and attained a Doctorate of Juridical Studies from the University of Sydney. She has written for numerous other publications including the Australian Financial Review, The Age, The Sydney Morning Herald, The Sunday Age, and The Wall Street Journal.

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 13, 2025 11:06 am
Reply to  Beertruk

“Knowing what I now know about … the allegations against both Mr Heydon and Lord Devlin and the nature of those allegations, I re-read that whole passage (by Heydon) … which was interesting in itself and probably worth a whole day’s separate research and discussion.”

Canbra really attracts mediocre marxist ideologues

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
April 13, 2025 11:42 am
Reply to  Beertruk

Thanks for posting that piece by Janet A Beertruk

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 13, 2025 12:18 pm
Reply to  Beertruk

“As for whatever Justice Heydon may have done (if anything) that redounds to his personal discredit, I leave that to others. He has not been found guilty, after due process, by a judge and jury,” he says.

Unsurprising that Michael Kirby is supportive of Dyson Heydon despite the politicised sexual harassment allegations. He himself was subject to a campaign of unproven allegations from the Coward’s Castle.

Zippster
Zippster
April 13, 2025 12:43 pm
Reply to  Beertruk

finding Heydon sexually harassed six judges’ associates at the court.

that is communist speak for showed interest in. This is not an offense except to radical feminists marxists scum, who by their very existence are deeply offensive

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 13, 2025 6:36 pm
Reply to  Beertruk

Got the leftards, absolute loyalty to their ever changing policies is the only and absolute test.

Fail to give unstinting loyalty means expulsion from the tribe, with no hope of return. Heydon crossed the line in pursuit of the truth.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 13, 2025 11:08 am
Reply to  dover0beach

Apple just flew 600 tonnes of iPhones to the US to get under the tariffs.

Pretty clear such exceptions are about ameliorating the tariffs on US companies like Apple that manufacture in China.

Local production can replace such products eventually, but it will take time.

Zippster
Zippster
April 13, 2025 12:45 pm

correct. no point neutering apple and others until they have their supply chains sorted out

JC
JC
April 13, 2025 11:09 am
Reply to  dover0beach

Arnaud Bertrand

Oh God. You’re citing Arnie again. I thought you’d gone quiet on quoting this idiot Frog.

flyingduk
flyingduk
April 13, 2025 12:10 pm
Reply to  JC

Oh God. You’re citing Arnie again. I thought you’d gone quiet on quoting this idiot Frog.

In debating, this is known as an ‘ad hominem’ and generally used when substantive counter arguments are lacking.

JC
JC
April 13, 2025 12:17 pm
Reply to  flyingduk

I have, duk.
He’s an idiot

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caveman
caveman
April 13, 2025 11:58 am
Reply to  dover0beach

Are those exemptions for everyone or just China. I thought with our inexpensive runiables ( becoming a ruinables super power) we could have a go at making our own semi coductors and sell them tariff free to the US.

Arky
April 13, 2025 10:57 am

The Trump administration has exempted smartphones, computers and other electronics from its “reciprocal” tariffs — lessening the cost impact on American consumers for a host of popular high-tech products.

What’s worse than a trade war?
Losing a trade war.
For Gods sake, we’re going to hand the whole world over to the CCP and her gruesome stooges at home and abroad, because families can’t bear to have one or two less iPads or iPhones in the house for a year or two.
And because Trump imagines himself a magic man negotiator.
Stop negotiating and win this f*cking thing.
Address the nation.
Tell everyone the truth: we have a year or two at most to do something over China, it is going to cause pain, TAKE THE PAIN.
Because the alternative is the end of us. The end of everything about the world you all came to be comfortable about.
The chicken are coming home.
There is no do over with this.

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Tom
Tom
April 13, 2025 11:03 am
Reply to  Arky

FFS, Arky.

You want Trump to go faster?

Calm down, sport.

Arky
April 13, 2025 11:08 am
Reply to  Tom

Massive Chinese military buildup in our region Tom.
Chinese warships circumnavigating Australia.
China stated timetable for invasion of Taiwan is 2027.
Let it sink in what that means: before they go they have to neutralise the US navy in the Pacific and cut off Australia from the rest of the world as the Japanese attempted.
Which of the many Apple devices in your home you use will become a distant, fond memory as the next 18 months unfold if Trump doesn’t prepare his citizens for that which must be done.
There isn’t enough time.
It’s disgusting that it has been allowed to go this far, that deindustrialisation was allowed, that CCP systematic cheating was allowed for decades.
But here we are.

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Arky
April 13, 2025 11:12 am
Reply to  Arky

Remember, I have over and over again for 15 years shouted that we were in peril.
If I knew, then they knew.
All of them knew, and took the filthy money and sold the future,
F*ck them to hell.

Arky
April 13, 2025 11:19 am
Reply to  Arky

And they’re all still playing pass the parcel, they’re all still hoping just to slide by and get away with it.
Which as individuals, they probably will.
It will be other people’s children going down to the bottom with the warships when the day comes, only unlike Pearl Harbour, there is no industrial base to rebuild from.
All this could get very real, very quickly.

Arky
April 13, 2025 11:27 am
Reply to  Arky

People need to stop worrying about their portfolios.
The only question about the economy is this: can it hold up in war and produce that which is required to win under war time conditions?
Covid was the test, the answer was no.

Arky
April 13, 2025 11:36 am
Reply to  Arky

The real lesson of the Ukraine war?
That nuclear powers can go to war for years with the lines stretching for thousands of km and men slaughtered by the tens of thousands, and nuclear mutually assured destruction deterrence holds up.
As long as the war is mainly conducted in a third space that gives both sides a reason not to go nuclear, the aims remain the same: Russia grinds down NATO, NATO grinds down Russia.
The Ukraine has set the precedent for the Pacific: both sides can pursue their aim of destroying the other, and as long as no direct attack on each other’s homeland occurs, nuclear deterrence holds.
War is now more likely than not.
MAD has transformed into something leaders take for granted, that allows them to pursue their war goals immune from attack on their homes and capitals.

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Arky
April 13, 2025 11:43 am
Reply to  Arky

The lesson to every other country?
Don’t be the venue for the war.

Zippster
Zippster
April 13, 2025 1:24 pm
Reply to  Arky

interesting observation. would an invasion of Taiwan not trigger attack on chinese bases and ports?

m0nty
April 13, 2025 11:22 am
Reply to  Arky

Right, you have been shouting for 15 years that we are a year or two away from being overrun by the Communists.

Listen to yourself.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 13, 2025 11:31 am
Reply to  m0nty

We’re already overrun by communists Monty.
Fortunately fairly inept ones, at least so far.

Lee
Lee
April 13, 2025 12:50 pm

Absolutely correct.

Foxbody
Foxbody
April 13, 2025 6:42 pm

The inept ones are the ones we know about, Bruce.
Looking at the course of public policy in Australia for the last 20 years, I think many smarter, more influential ones have largely avoided scrutiny

Arky
April 13, 2025 11:57 am
Reply to  m0nty

Errr.
We have been over run by communists.
The CCP is the major manufacturing region of the world, producing critical components.
See covid times for what happens when they stop sending their shit here.
Our schools and universities are run by openly Marxist administrators and academics, who service Chinese communist students.
Our police forces now enforce right think in a way that would shock Orwell.
Our boards and managers openly run Marxist policies that accelerate deindustrialisation and social discontent because the capital markets are captured by openly communist activists.

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Zippster
Zippster
April 13, 2025 1:01 pm
Reply to  m0nty

we listen to you, and realise that it’s far more insidious, the communists that have over run us don’t even realise they are communist stooges!

mareeS
mareeS
April 13, 2025 6:07 pm
Reply to  Zippster

Oh, yes they do, Zippster. I know some, and they are determined.

Cassie of Sydney
April 13, 2025 1:58 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Nazi boy, I know this, since October 7 2023 we’ve been overrun by rabid leftist and Muslim Nazi Jew haters who’ve taken to our CBD streets, screaming hate and genocide against Jews.

Perhaps before you start lecturing and pontificating to others, you should listen to yourself!

Gabor
Gabor
April 13, 2025 2:34 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Your fingers are ahead of your brain, forget to think before you type.
Don’t be surprised when others point out your political blindness.
The communists have infiltrated most educational institutions and the public service. They may not wearing a badge but trust me, they are there.

JC
JC
April 13, 2025 11:27 am
Reply to  Arky

Well, you falsely accused me of manipulating downticks the other evening without a shred of evidence, so why would anyone trust your self-proclaimed clairvoyance over the past 15 years?
Protectionism for national security reasons may work against China, but how does it apply to friendly countries like Australia, Japan, and even Europe, when we’ve seen the greatest expansion of human well-being over the past 30 years through relatively open trade?
You come from a country so burdened by protectionism that it could have easily slipped into lower per capita income brackets. It was forced to open up. Wholesale protectionism guarantees a decline in living standards.

Arky
April 13, 2025 11:49 am
Reply to  JC

Well, you falsely accused me of manipulating downticks the other evening 

No, I joked that you down ticked my complaint about olives.
I was joking you berk.

Arky
April 13, 2025 11:51 am
Reply to  Arky

You’ve been sensible and good with everyone lately, don’t start slipping into old habits.
No one is out to get you mate.

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Tom
Tom
April 13, 2025 11:24 am
Reply to  Arky

Arky, if Xi invades Taiwan, he declares war on the USA and waves goodbye to the consumer exports upon which the Chinese economy is entirely dependant.

Trump holds all the cards. Xi can’t destroy China’s export economy for the sake of national pride.

For a start, millions in China’s export factories would lose their jobs and Xi can’t afford such a volatile, unhappy proletariat.

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JC
JC
April 13, 2025 11:45 am
Reply to  dover0beach

You only need most of the cards. Try and cope with this as you appear to be fighting it all the way.

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JC
JC
April 13, 2025 11:56 am
Reply to  dover0beach

Yes they do.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 13, 2025 11:52 am
Reply to  Tom

For a start, millions in China’s export factories would lose their jobs and Xi can’t afford such a volatile, unhappy proletariat.

For a follow up, the domestic price of consumer goods will increase significantly.

Throughout Emperor Xi’s reign, the CCP’s economic policies have been been broadly focussed on the material disparity between 500 million relatively affluent city folk living Singaporean-style lives and the bulk of the population living precarious turd world lives. There are still plenty of the Chinese nomenklatura who remember how revolution works out.

Low cost marginal production of basics keeps the regional population in support mode.

Arky
April 13, 2025 12:20 pm
Reply to  Tom

They are communists Tom.
They killed tens of millions of their own citizens to restructure their economy to begin industrialisation in the 1960s and get rid of entire classes of their political enemies.
They don’t care.
That seems illogical and alien to you and I, but this is communism.

flyingduk
flyingduk
April 13, 2025 12:21 pm
Reply to  Tom

Arky, if Xi invades Taiwan, he declares war on the USA and waves goodbye to the consumer exports upon which the Chinese economy is entirely dependant.

The chinese do NOT get richer by swapping their real stuff (manufactured goods) for US paper. If SHTF, the Chinese get to keep their manufactured goods for domestic use or other markets, the US ends up empty handed.

As Peter Schiff points out … wealth is stuff, not paper. If China stops sending their manufactured goods to the US, Wallmart has empty shelves and the Chinese have full warehouses.

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Zippster
Zippster
April 13, 2025 12:50 pm
Reply to  flyingduk

if SHTF the chinese economy will go to war production on a far larger scale than Russia did and on a scale the west can’t match

Zippster
Zippster
April 13, 2025 1:00 pm
Reply to  flyingduk

Full warehouses means someone paid for production and is not getting a return. The goods have to be dumped somewhere to recoup some costs. Domestically it ain’t possible.

Makka
Makka
April 13, 2025 11:30 am
Reply to  Arky

 before they go they have to neutralise the US navy in the Pacific and cut off Australia from the rest of the world as the Japanese attempted.

The war will be won and lost (very quickly) from space, Arky. I suspect the Yanks are well ahead in that respect. If the CCP starts a war of any kind with Taiwan, her export markets will evaporate. You are imagining a war of nearly 100 years ago.

flyingduk
flyingduk
April 13, 2025 12:16 pm
Reply to  Arky

before they go they have to neutralise the US navy in the Pacific and cut off Australia from the rest of the world as the Japanese attempted.

1) A blockade of Taiwan does not require neutralisation of the USN, merely making the waters around Taiwan too hot to inhabit for them. Their massive missile inventory and their home waters advantage means the USN will NOT be able to operate around Taiwan should the Chinese so desire.

2) ‘Cutting off’ Australia is irrelevant to the US unless they want bases here. They needed that in WW2 because the Japanese were ensconced in much of the South Pacific. An blockade of Taiwan does not require any Chinese move in our direction and thus our defence matters squat to the US.

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Arky
April 13, 2025 12:30 pm
Reply to  flyingduk

A blockade of Taiwan does not require any Chinese move in our direction and thus our defence matters squat to the US.

Taiwan is part of a chain that goes from the top of Japan down through Taiwan, the Phillipines to Port Moresby.
Russia and the US contest the top of the chain, China dominates the centre, and Australia stabilises the bottom of the chain.
Most of world trade, huge fisheries and key sea lanes transverse that chain.
Dominating it requires both naval and land forces.

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flyingduk
flyingduk
April 13, 2025 7:45 pm
Reply to  Arky

Dominating it requires both naval and land forces.

Or, as they say in the trade, ‘GLOCs’ (Ground lines of communication) aka the belt and road.

shatterzzz
April 13, 2025 11:27 am

Disney edits & re-release’s Snow White in an attempt to influence wider audience appeal … LOL!

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Barking Toad
Barking Toad
April 13, 2025 11:30 am

From Dr Faustas @ 10:24am….

In what would be a controversial but historic structural change to the nation’s tax system, the policy would mean a family on average incomes would be about $11,000 a year better off — or $55,000 over five years.

This won’t happen. You’d have to also make residential rent deductible. To offset the cost in tax revenue they’d have to probably remove the tax exemption on capital gains on the sale of the family home.

Good luck selling that to the punters!

SFLs are being more stupid with their policies every day.

Makka
Makka
April 13, 2025 11:50 am
Reply to  Barking Toad

SFLs are being more stupid with their policies every day.

Dutton: Zelensky is a modern day Churchill.

That’s how stupid the SFL’s are.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 13, 2025 3:31 pm
Reply to  Barking Toad

To offset the cost in tax revenue they’d have to probably remove the tax exemption on capital gains on the sale of the family home.

Exacty. The principal place of residence is either inside or outside the tax/welfare system. Boiling frog on a slippery slope right here.

JC
JC
April 13, 2025 11:43 am

Has the US really deindustrialized, or is that just a myth?
The US produces 55% more manufactured goods than it did in 1990. Because capital is a scarce resource, it has flowed toward sectors promising the highest return on investment (ROI), particularly tech. If manufacturing offered comparable returns, it would have attracted more capital.
Let’s not pretend: having the state direct capital into lower-return sectors doesn’t hinder growth and slows improvements in living standards. There’s no river of chocolate flowing here.
Trump can rightly claim that moving away from China is necessary for national security reasons, which I agree with. The chinks have acted like total scumbags. However, this isn’t a move to raise living standards. Also, let’s not pretend that raising tariffs on friendly countries is about anything other than hoping to reduce the US deficit. Rather than taking the hard road in cutting spending, the administration is banking on tariffs to cover some of the debt.

Arky
April 13, 2025 12:12 pm
Reply to  JC

Has the US really deindustrialized?

Yes.
You need the lower end too.
And once you start to lose that stuff, it’s indicative of something wrong.
Be it industrial relations, incentives or out of control welfare.
50% of the population are below 100 IQ.
They’re productive producing steel, sewing backpacks and assembling tanks. in a wartime productivity sense.
They’re not truly productive in that sense, giving blow jobs, laying about on the dole or disability, working on one of labor’s never ending infrastructure projects or running a company’s HR department.

John Brumble
John Brumble
April 13, 2025 12:23 pm
Reply to  JC

A fair bit of the difference is a reclassification of certain processes and products as “manufacturing” which absolutely are not.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 13, 2025 11:46 am

Anyone the buys the latest smart phone or tablet every year is a moron. I know people that do so. It’s like a fashion item to them.

I remember a few years back people sleeping at the front of the Apple store in Perth, just so they could brag be the first to have one. Total losers. Their previous device would have had years left on it.

“This new one has has a great camera!”

Woopi f*cking do.

When your device carks it, then replace it. I got many years from my Samsung Gallaxy Note 4. I only had to replace it when the 3G network was shut. What was funny was my device said i was on 4G ….not the right type of 4G Telstra said in the letter sent to me.

Are you one of those people that updates with every new device release? I hope not.

It’s a good question to be asked of people.

JC
JC
April 13, 2025 11:50 am

Anyone the buys the latest smart phone or tablet every year is a moron.

I went from an iphone 11 to 15 because the 11’s battery was giving up. I reckon the 11 was better and sturdier.

damon
damon
April 13, 2025 7:07 pm
Reply to  JC

The iPhone 11 was indeed robust. I’m clumsy, and dropped mine often, but it remained fine. I had to get another because it wouldn’t ring, not because it inconvenienced me, but because it set in motion a cascade of other events.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 13, 2025 11:55 am

Police monitoring ‘Keep the Sheep’ protesters circling PM’s hotelKatina Curtis is reporting from Perth that a string of utes and cars with “Keep the Sheep” signage are circling the CBD block housing Prime Minister Anthony Albanese’s hotel accomodation.
The fleet, which is being closely monitored by police, includes a couple of vans decked out in branding for Liberal candidate for Sean Michaels and one with a large campaign sticker for O’Connor MP Rick Wilson.
One dirt-covered ute has a speaker blaring the message, “Stop the ban, keep the sheep, put Labor last. Baaaa baaaa!”

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 13, 2025 11:57 am

These two make a good point. In order to not lose face, the CCP would have no qualms having millions lose their jobs in a trade war.

These blokes have no problem with the Chinese people, all barbs fired are directed ar the CCP. No need to watch the full two hours ….just watch the first half hour to 45 minutes.

The China Show:

Trade War Reality Hits China Way Harder Than They Thought

Makka
Makka
April 13, 2025 12:27 pm
Reply to  Steve trickler

If it were only jobs at stake. All those industries and corps affected by the tariffs are run by millions of very well connected individuals and families who exert great influence collectively within the CCP. Careers, wealth, influence all ties in with the giant Chinese manufacturing and exporting base and the CCP.

Chinese punters are still working their way through the RE shit sandwich. Losing their jobs as well will be a very bad turn of events indeed. So regardless of what face the CCP put on all of this, I’m absolutely sure they don’t want to rile up hundreds of millions of their quickly impoverished people.

Zippster
Zippster
April 13, 2025 12:56 pm
Reply to  Makka

Systems of corruption need people to be earning money so that a cut can be taken. The CCP is corrupt from the head down to the local cops.

Diogenes
Diogenes
April 13, 2025 12:55 pm
Reply to  Steve trickler

My YouTube feed us full of these stories, and the issues predate the tariffs. In summary

  • In some areas factory workers haven’t been paid in months,
  • young professionals’ salaries cut to ( not by) 1/3 of what they were promised and they keep working because …
  • even though there is a shortage of youth, youth unemployment is so bad the govt either doesn’t count it anymore or release the figures
  • malls, markets, airports, stations empty because no-one has money to spend as Housing, food fuel all up ( sound familiar)
  • Factories are sitting on months worth of inventory.
  • New factory precincts totally unoccupied
  • SMEs are selling off equipment
  • Some factories ‘mysteriously’ catching fire ( disgruntled employees? ,insurance jobs?)

More complaints from business owners that they are stuck with raw materials or half finished goods since the tariffs as contracts are being cancelled literally overnight, and there is no domestic demand for them.

None of these are a good sign for no 11. He will do what all dictators do, and start a foreign adventure to unify his citizens and consolidate his power, and sooner rather than later.

Roger
Roger
April 13, 2025 6:37 pm
Reply to  Diogenes

None of these are a good sign for no 11. He will do what all dictators do, and start a foreign adventure to unify his citizens and consolidate his power, and sooner rather than later.

Worked well for Putin.

mareeS
mareeS
April 13, 2025 7:22 pm
Reply to  Diogenes

I am seeing lots of this.

P
P
April 13, 2025 12:10 pm

Jerusalem, Jerusalem!

Lift up your gates and sing, Hosanna in the highest
Hosanna to your King

Delta A
Delta A
April 13, 2025 1:22 pm
Reply to  P

Just beautiful. Thank you for posting, P.

Arky
April 13, 2025 12:44 pm

As Peter Schiff points out … wealth is stuff, not paper. If China stops sending their manufactured goods to the US, Wallmart has empty shelves and the Chinese have full warehouses.

If Schiff said that, he is wrong.
Wealth is not “stuff”.
Wealth is the ownership of things with the ability to produce.
But it’s dependent on also having.
A market for product.
The availability of the other things that make the things you produce useful.
You can own a herd of cows. Cows produce milk. No they don’t, if they don’t have pastures.
A car assembly plant produces cars. No it doesn’t, if it doesn’t have components to assemble.
And all of it is dependent on having a trained workforce.
Schiff is just as prone to over simplifications as those he rightly criticises.

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Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
April 13, 2025 12:59 pm
Reply to  Arky

Wealth is the ownership of things with the ability to produce.
Arky, cmon. Schiff said as much, with less words.

Arky
April 13, 2025 1:07 pm
Reply to  Wally Dalí

No, it’s important.
Schiff says China sends real wealth to the US in the form of goods, and in return the US sends China worthless paper,
He says this over and over again.
The implication being that the US is ripping off China and that eventually the Chinese will wake up and stop it.
The wealth is the ability to produce, which remains, stolen as it was, in China.
The shit they send over is as much wealth as a 1954 Humber Super Snipe is wealth: it just isn’t. It’s product.
in fact that paper has more real value in a way than the product.
Product is just product. The paper is part of a financial system that brings forward future potential reasoning into the present, that if deployed by a healthy market can produce real wealth in the form of factories, mills and fertile pastures.
..

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Arky
April 13, 2025 1:19 pm
Reply to  Arky

Earnings not “reasoning”.

flyingduk
flyingduk
April 13, 2025 7:52 pm
Reply to  Arky

No, wealth is stuff ALREADY produced, the ability to produce more in the future is FUTURE wealth.

The car I bought with the wages I already received is wealth, the ‘stuff’ I can buy in the future with my future wages is not wealth. If you doubt this, see what happens to your car if you stop making the payments.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 13, 2025 12:52 pm

Makka
 April 13, 2025 12:27 pm

Reply to  Steve trickler
If it were only jobs at stake. All those industries and corps affected by the tariffs are run by millions of very well connected individuals and families who exert great influence collectively within the CCP. Careers, wealth, influence all ties in with the giant Chinese manufacturing and exporting base and the CCP.
Chinese punters are still working their way through the RE shit sandwich. Losing their jobs as well will be a very bad turn of events indeed. So regardless of what face the CCP put on all of this, I’m absolutely sure they don’t want to rile up hundreds of millions of their quickly impoverished people.

I reckon the CCP would have no problems crushing mass dissent. If that means shooting large crowds, so be it. The army over there are like programmed robots. If a soldier were to disobey a order, their family will vanish into thin air, as will him or her.

Also, If it did come to that, the internet would be shut down whilst doing so.

Indolent
Indolent
April 13, 2025 12:52 pm
Boambee John
Boambee John
April 13, 2025 6:46 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Not particularly unusual, Pelosi has been doing that for many years.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
April 13, 2025 12:54 pm

Utterly depressing reading and very true, it seems, in the UK. The deterioration in true civil liberties from places like the UK give inspiration to our feckless pollimuppets. Depressingly, we in Oz are not far behind. Grrrrrrrrr!

Extracts follow.

You got a licence for that?

The most anodyne of everyday activities are now regulated, banned or criminalised by the state.

Indeed, in a very real sense, we are witnessing the criminalisation of everyday life. Increasingly, everyday activities, such as feeding pigeonsplaying ballgames or merely standing in a group are being criminalised. Introduced as part of the Anti-Social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act 2014, so-called Public Spaces Protection Orders (PSPOs) have granted councils in England and Wales astoundingly open-ended powers to invent crimes, and to punish them. As a result, there are now over 2,000 new legal codes banning many thousands of everyday activities, including sleeping in public or playing music outside. Labour’s new Respect Orders will only further empower the authorities to criminalise hitherto unremarkable behaviour.

Activities are being criminalised today that do not harm anyone, and do not cause significant public nuisance. The very definition of ‘crime’ has been re-defined and trivialised. Rather than categorising actions that seriously interfere with others, criminal actions can refer to behaviour that annoys or offends, or has a ‘detrimental effect’ on their life.

We need to start defending everyday freedom. The state takeover of everyday life is affecting the way we think, the language we use and the way we relate to our fellow citizens. If you are issued with legal orders telling you what you can do in your home, the sphere in which you should feel comfortable and safe becomes a zone of coercion and threat. If we cannot carry out public activities in the streets, they are not our streets. We cease to be citizens, and become mere subjects, given permission to travel from A to B or to the shops, so long as we do not try to do something without permission.

Zippster
Zippster
April 13, 2025 1:53 pm
Reply to  Mak Siccar

United Soviet Socialist Kingdom

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 13, 2025 1:07 pm

Former Liberal prime ministers are awaiting Peter Dutton‘s speech to formally open the Coalition’s election campaign, but there is no sign of Malcolm Turnbull.

Why would that be, do you think?

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 13, 2025 1:15 pm

I think Trumble’s absence is a plus

Chris
Chris
April 13, 2025 1:42 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

Trumble’s evisceration would be a bigger plus. The miserable ghost that somehow won’t flush.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 13, 2025 1:13 pm

It has to be said. These blokes from NZ produced some bangers.

July 14th 2005 Split Enz inducted into the ARIA “Hall Of Fame”-perform 2 songs live- “Poor Boy” and “History Never Repeats”.

Enz at Hall Of Fame “Poor Boy” & “History” 2005

Titus Groates
Titus Groates
April 13, 2025 2:42 pm
Reply to  Steve trickler

Poor Boy is a fav of mine.

Indolent
Indolent
April 13, 2025 1:21 pm

Ken Paxton has announced he is standing for the GOP Senate nomination in Florida against the incumbent RINO John Cornyn next year.

@MikeBenzCyber

The ultimate companion vid to the Ken Paxton impeachment:

2 weeks ago, I covered how the Bush family CIA oil intelligence mafia wants to kill MAGA to keep its energy cartel across the American Empire

Now we learn George P Bush was behind Paxton’s ouster

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 13, 2025 1:27 pm
Reply to  Indolent

The Bushes are very close to the Saudis I understand. Bush was a most unworthy successor to Reagan to put it politely.

Zatara
Zatara
April 13, 2025 6:06 pm
Reply to  Indolent

Texas, not Florida.

Indolent
Indolent
April 13, 2025 1:23 pm

Try to tell me it was not deliberate.

@WillCainShow_

MUST WATCH

Mike Benz on The @WillCain Show explains Event 201

In October 2019, world leaders ran a simulation at Johns Hopkins

– A bat-borne flu-like virus
– A global lockdown strategy
– And a plan to control “conspiracy theories” about its origin

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 13, 2025 1:24 pm

Angers me that so many banks masquerading as regional banks are fronts for the big 4-

just found out Suncorp bank is owned by ANZ
BankSA is Westpac as are St George and Bank of Melbourne
BankWest is CommBank

makes me sick

chrisl
chrisl
April 13, 2025 2:19 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

Go with Bendigo Bank . A true community bank

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 13, 2025 2:24 pm
Reply to  chrisl

with a regional Building Society

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 13, 2025 2:27 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

not all that happy with them either tbh

Natural Instinct
Natural Instinct
April 13, 2025 2:25 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

And all those takeovers were approved because they would not significantly lower competition. Not?
The takeovers prevented a foreign bank entering Australia with an established branch network.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 13, 2025 3:36 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

BankWest is CommBank

Because it almost went under with Bank of Scotland on the levers.

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 13, 2025 6:35 pm
Reply to  H B Bear

Interesting- thanks Bear.

mareeS
mareeS
April 13, 2025 7:47 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

Greater Bank is pretty good. Formed from Newcastle Permanent Building Society and Greater Newcastle Bldg Society. Excellent cyber protection.

Indolent
Indolent
April 13, 2025 1:25 pm

@JackPosobiec

?Mark Kelly: Are you saying the FBI might be involved in entrapment operations?

Joe Kent: Well, have you heard about Michigan?

Zippster
Zippster
April 13, 2025 1:25 pm

In the video, JD Vance discusses the pitfalls of globalization, particularly focusing on how reliance on cheap labor acts as a crutch that stifles innovation in the United States. He argues that outsourcing manufacturing while retaining design efforts domestically has been misguided, as the countries that engage in manufacturing also become proficient in design, creating network effects that disadvantage American firms. Vance emphasizes that this approach has inhibited American innovation because firms prioritize lower production costs over technological advancement. The discussion highlights a shift in mindset, with a new wave of American startups focusing on innovating and manufacturing domestically. This shift is supported by significant investments from venture capitalists aiming to transform industrial manufacturing by applying technological advancements to create competitive, cost-effective products. The conversation suggests a move towards an aspirational future where American entrepreneurs are inspired to build physical products and industrial businesses, leveraging technology to compete globally.

JC
JC
April 13, 2025 1:38 pm
Reply to  Zippster

Sounds great on paper, Zip. However, the big issue in the US right now that impedes most of the things Vance is saying is the debt and the budget deficit. So far, all we’ve heard from the Congress is that the deficit is going to grow this year. WTF?

Zatara
Zatara
April 13, 2025 6:15 pm
Reply to  JC

That’s because the Republican dominated Congress approved an already written (by the former Dem dominated Congress) spending bill full of Biden era crap “to stave off a govt shutdown”.

Had they passed a continuing resolution instead they could have fought and negotiated every single thing in that budget before passing it.

Not their brightest moment.

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Entropy
Entropy
April 13, 2025 2:45 pm
Reply to  Zippster

I reckon there is truth in that. Re the discussion of Apple above, under Jobs Apple kept coming out with amazing stuff, albeit with a gradual increase in offshore manufacturing. Then Tim Apple took over and it becomes all about the supply chain and margin maximisation. The only really successful, new product since jobs died is the Apple Watch, and Jobs had already laid down the research division to develop that. But since then it has not really done anything that wowed you like the first modern laptop design, the iMac, the first wifi laptop, or the iPhone did in2007 or the iPad .

the reason is likely what jobs said back in 1997 when he was explaining to staff why a lot of little divisions doing cool stuff had to be axed as he restored the viability of “beleaguered Apple Computer” as it was referred to in the press back then:

What happened at Apple, to be honest, over the years was the goal used to be to make the best computers in the world. And that was goal one. Goal two, we got from Hewlett-Packard actually which was “we have to make a profit”. Because if we don’t make a profit we can’t do goal one. So, yeah, I mean we enjoyed making a profit, but the purpose of making a profit was so we can make the best computers in the world. Along the way somewhere those two got reversed. The goal is to make a lot of money and well, if we have to make some good computers well ok we’ll do that… ’cause we can make a lot of money doing that. And, it’s very subtle. It’s very subtle at first, but it turns out it’s everything. That one little subtle flip… takes 5 years to see it, but that one little subtle flip in 5 years means everything.

JC
JC
April 13, 2025 3:36 pm
Reply to  Entropy

Yep, Cook was always the logistics guy.

damon
damon
April 13, 2025 1:30 pm

Interesting. Making a dinner reservation in Brisbane, I note on the website a button saying English.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
April 13, 2025 7:06 pm
Reply to  damon

Was the alternate selection Mandarin?

damon
damon
April 13, 2025 8:03 pm
Reply to  hzhousewife

The menu was in English, so I I didn’t see the point.

Zippster
Zippster
April 13, 2025 1:40 pm

Mr. Maher Goes to Washington | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

Worth a listen if you haven’t seen it, Maher meets Trump

Zippster
Zippster
April 13, 2025 1:45 pm

In the video from “American Thought Leaders – The Epoch Times,” Roger Robinson discusses how U.S. investments are indirectly funding China’s military and human rights violations. He highlights the lack of scrutiny on Chinese companies entering U.S. capital markets, often embedded within index funds that Americans unknowingly invest in. Robinson compares this to past instances like U.S. financial support for Nazi Germany and suggests the situation represents a massive financial scandal. Robinson criticizes the U.S. government’s and Wall Street’s roles, pointing out conflicts of interest due to regulatory lapses and the revolving door between regulators and financial institutions. He stresses the need for better oversight and transparency, advocating for measures like outlawing investments in blacklisted companies and ending preferential treatment for Chinese firms. He cites the Trump administration’s initiatives, such as the America First Investment Memorandum, as positive steps towards mitigating these issues but calls for codifying these efforts into bipartisan law. Robinson urges Americans to question their financial advisors about their investments in Chinese companies, particularly within index funds, and to push for options that exclude problematic firms. He emphasizes the importance of increased investor awareness and action to avoid funding activities contrary to U.S. values and security interests.

Zatara
Zatara
April 13, 2025 6:18 pm
Reply to  Zippster

It’s very possible that Chinese companies are going to find themselves de-listed on the US stock markets in the near future.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 13, 2025 1:48 pm

JC
 April 13, 2025 11:50 am

Anyone the buys the latest smart phone or tablet every year is a moron.

I went from an iphone 11 to 15 because the 11’s battery was giving up. I reckon the 11 was better and sturdier.

Same, same.
We were travelling in Japan and my old freakin’ Samsung wouldn’t last 5-6 hours just using Gongle Maps to get around, and would go from 30% charge to zero in ten minutes.
Went into JB Hi Fi and started to get the sales pitch on the latest and greatest.
I just told the guy, “I just want something which has the same or slightly better functionality than this DeadPhone 1.1.0”.
He was really good.
Pointed me at a couple of much cheaper but perfectly good phones and I bought one.
JB are a Telstra dealer and he flipped us both onto cheaper plans – something Telstra avoid doing in their stores unless you find the plan and specifically ask for it.

Entropy
Entropy
April 13, 2025 2:34 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

In my family littlest miss entropy an iPhone 11, I have an iPhone 13 mini, miss entropy an iphone 16 pro max p, master entropy an iphone15, and Mrs Entropy an iPhone 15 pro max.

LME is on an 11 because it’s yellow and too tight to buy herself a new one. I’m on the 13 mini as I want a small phone. I will replace the battery rather than get a new one, as Apple hasn’t made a newer mini (apparently didn’t sell as well as its bigger brethren). But with anew battery it will be like new. Not bad for a phone that is getting on.

That said, the newer ones are vastly superior machines to the older ones, including build quality. But, looking at each of our machines, the incremental improvement isn’t worth it, but if it’s at least three or more years between upgrades the difference is very noticeable.

Their real trouble is the price escalation.

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Eyrie
Eyrie
April 13, 2025 7:28 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Aldi Mobile uses Telstra network and is cheap. I got $19 per month, free calls and heaps of data in Australia which rolls over at end of month.
Mrs Eyrie is on $25 because it gives free calls to NZ and so much data so that I think she has a gig or so rolled over.

Makka
Makka
April 13, 2025 1:58 pm

One young Chinese man’s view of what happened between China and the US in the last 30 years.How the money was spent.

From what we have seen happening with DOGE and the Billion$ stolen from taxpayers and the cost (in indebtedness) of wars, there is a real point here.

No doubt there is a propaganda angle but when your nation lifts a half billion people out of poverty into a modern , if controlled, quality of life then there are quite obviously 2 completely different approaches to nation building going on.

https://x.com/TheEXECUTlONER_/status/1911112775054602546

But correcting the decades of waste and abuse in the US is going to be one hell of a challenge for Trump.

https://www.lynalden.com/wp-content/uploads/broken-money-chapter-13.pdf

Zippster
Zippster
April 13, 2025 2:00 pm

General problem with councils is that they are allowed to raise rates in line with land values. Land historically goes up by 8%, inflation is targeted to 2%. This mean councils have a built in bloat factor of around 6% compounding annually. Using Parkinson’s Law of bureaucratic bloat, councils will expand to fill all available revenue and then some.

Council reforms are urgently needed to stop councils using land values to set rates. Rates should be set on user pays basis. Allowing councils to set rates on land values is effectively a tax on unrealised capital gains. All Australian councils are bloated with staff and BS services and swamped by waste, fraud and corruption.

damon
damon
April 13, 2025 6:10 pm
Reply to  Zippster

I have trimmed the hedges, and my land value has increased by $200,000.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
April 13, 2025 7:13 pm
Reply to  damon

Well. silly, don’t trim the hedges again!

flyingduk
flyingduk
April 13, 2025 7:57 pm
Reply to  Zippster

Land historically goes up by 8%, inflation is targeted to 2%

Reported inflation is a lie. Gold has gone up at 10% compound annually for the last 20 years, silver at 6% for the last 50 and pine lime splice iceblocks at 6%, also over the last 50y.

The real inflation rate is more like 8% than 2%. The other trick that councils pull is to increase the rate multiplier on your property, as well as their deemed value.

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JC
JC
April 13, 2025 8:21 pm
Reply to  Zippster

Have you see the pay rate for a council CEO or whatever they’re called?

Basically for taking the trash once a week and running aboriginal love fiestas.

– Range of Salaries: Local council CEO salaries in Australia vary widely depending on the size, location, and budget of the council. As of recent data:

 – Smaller rural councils (e.g., West Wimmera Shire Council in Victoria): Salaries can range from $220,000 to $230,000 annually.

 – Larger regional councils (e.g., City of Greater Geelong in Victoria): Salaries can reach around $460,000.

 – Major metropolitan councils (e.g., City of Melbourne): CEOs can earn between $530,000 and $540,000, with the City of Melbourne’s CEO reported at $534,000 in 2024.

 – In South Australia, the average council CEO salary was reported at $219,917 in 2017, with the highest-paid CEO at the City of Playford earning $372,978 [Web ID: 13].

– State Variations:

 – Victoria: CEO salaries are often benchmarked against similar roles to attract talent. For example, the City of Melbourne’s CEO was among the highest-paid at $530,000–$539,999 before a change in leadership in 2023 [Web ID: 16].

 – Western Australia: The Salaries and Allowances Tribunal sets remuneration ranges for CEOs based on a band system (Band 1 to Band 4), factoring in council size and complexity. Exact figures depend on the council but can range from $200,000 to over $400,000 for larger councils.

 – Queensland: CEO remuneration is negotiated under a total remuneration package (TRP) framework, with salaries varying by council size and work value, often starting around $200,000 and exceeding $500,000 for larger councils like Brisbane

 – New South Wales: Salaries for CEOs in major councils like the City of Sydney can approach $500,000, though smaller councils pay significantly less.

– Additional Benefits: CEO packages often include superannuation (typically 12.75% or more), vehicle allowances, professional memberships, and sometimes perks like gym memberships or Qantas Club memberships, which can add $5,000–$20,000 to the total package value

– Transparency and Criticism: There’s ongoing debate about CEO pay, with groups like Council Watch arguing for more transparency and performance-based justification, especially as some salaries exceed those of state premiers or the prime minister (e.g., PM’s salary is ~$587,000)

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 13, 2025 2:00 pm

Bloody impressive work from the K9 dog @1:41. I can not fathom a K9 officer letting the dog go when it has to be retired. Instant family in my book.

But they do and people adopt them.

Fur Missile Compilation

Arky
April 13, 2025 2:03 pm

Musk is doing to space rockets what Ford did to cars.
He is moving it into the realm of mass production.
That is the high end of the economy at its awesome best.
its understandable that appreciation of these successes might distract one from the need to keep the middle and bottom end alive too.
But good outfits don’t stop doing the basics well because of success. They double down on the basics too.

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 13, 2025 3:00 pm
Reply to  Arky

I watched a Starlink launch this morning.
Live coverage. Routine and perfect.
Last night they launched a spy satellite, likewise perfectly.
Next one is another Starlink launch at midday tomorrow.
The booster will be on its 27th flight. Amazing.

Vicki
Vicki
April 13, 2025 5:37 pm

Gosh, some of the sats are fabulous passing over the clear night sky out west of the Great Divide. Sometimes, if I am awake in the early hours I get up and have a look at the night sky if it is a clear night. Not unusual to spot a sat within a short time. Not surprising, given the number that are up there now.

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 13, 2025 7:34 pm
Reply to  Arky

Take a look at what is going on at Boca Chica. There are a lot of welders, truck drivers, concrete pour guys, steel construction folk etc etc building the machines that build the machines. Awesome.
Imagine in the future being able to tell your grandkids you were there helping build the first Starships or launching Falcons and Dragons. This is the future that can inspire.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 13, 2025 2:13 pm

24 minutes ago

Welcome to country kicks off Labor launch

Labor has begun its launch at the Perth Convention and Exhibition Centre with a welcome to country by former police officer Barry Winmar, an elder from the Australian Rules-loving Noongar family. Mr Winmar is a cousin of St Kilda great Nicky Winmar, who famously said “I’m black and I’m proud” during a match at Victoria Park in 1993.
Barry Winmar is a former police officer and deputy mayor of the industrial port of Kwinana in the electorate of WA Labor premier Roger Cook. 
“Welcome to Country is a sign of mutual respect,” he said. 
“I acknowledge and pay my respects to the Australian Labor Party for including a Welcome to Country as part of today.
“Welcome everybody”.
The Noongar people are recognised as the traditional owners of Perth and southwest of Western Australia in an act of parliament introduced by former Liberal premier Colin Barnett.
Peter Dutton has said he will not stand in front of the Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander flag for his media events, describing the practice as divisive. 
The ALP stage is set with a backdrop of the Australian flag, the Aboriginal flag and the Torres Strait Island flag.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 13, 2025 2:15 pm

A sign of mutual respect? Bullshirt!

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
April 13, 2025 2:30 pm

Yup the flight down to Sydney, the Alliance staff couldn’t even pronounce the name of whatever tribe allegedly was the Aboriginal conquerors of the area round Mascot and the flight back from Newcastle to Brisbane was just quick blah blah acknowledge… custodians… and no tribe mentioned.

Jeststar didn’t even have one on landing at Townsville last night.

Lee
Lee
April 13, 2025 2:41 pm

Stick your Welcome to Country where the sun doesn’t shine.

As a person born in this country, I take great offence to it.

Lee
Lee
April 13, 2025 2:58 pm

Black privilege.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 13, 2025 2:27 pm

The Labor party wheel out Julia Gillard!

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 13, 2025 2:29 pm

Thanks for watching so I don’t have to

mem
mem
April 13, 2025 2:33 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

Was she wearing pearls?

mem
mem
April 13, 2025 2:31 pm

Tintarella di Luna
 Reply to  mem
mem this will explain it — sung by the legendary Mina
Couldn’t understand a word but a great tune. I now recall it being played in Murray Valley territory as we had many Italians within community. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti9h_gIwPtA

Indolent
Indolent
April 13, 2025 2:35 pm
Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
April 13, 2025 2:37 pm

Mr Aversion Therapy himself (aka Abalone) is on again and at length, so fortunately there’s plenty of good alternative programs on the IQ Hard Drive.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 13, 2025 2:48 pm

He is still looking good for a Great Dane at 9 years of age. Hopefully a couple more years left in him. Most Danes are dead at this age.

Strut, strut , strut, strut, strut.

Walk a dog like like this alongside a busy road ….car accidents could ensue as people stop paying attention to the road. I think he is the tallest dog in the world at the moment.

Zeus, another Dane who held the title has passed if my memory serves me correct.

Cash 2.0 Great Dane at the Bark In The Park 2025 event in Thousand Oaks (5 of 5)

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bons
bons
April 13, 2025 6:07 pm
Reply to  Indolent

Bondi’s inaction does make one wonder whether she is a plant.

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 13, 2025 3:13 pm

Teal MP Allegra Spender pays social media influencers to campaign for her, raising questions about electoral complianceTeal MP Allegra Spender pays social media influencers to campaign for her, raising questions about electoral compliance | Sky News Australia

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 13, 2025 3:17 pm
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Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
April 13, 2025 4:41 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

Mong is a classic elitist living in a bubble. Thinks she has a connection with everyday folk because she periodically wanders up and down Glenferrie Rd surrounded by her people conducting carefully curated interactions. Bubble within a bubble.

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Vicki
Vicki
April 13, 2025 5:33 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

She represents everything I hate about that sort of female GP – that arrogant, “you know nothing” type of female GP.

I once told a middle aged female relief GP in our practice that “the days of the God in a white coat are gone!” I had a compulsive cough which I am prone to get after recovering from a virus (I have mild bronchiectasis) which she wrongly diagnosed as Pertussis. All I wanted was a cough suppressive for a long flight I was taking and she was going to ban me from travel! Phew!

She was gob-smacked.

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 13, 2025 6:37 pm
Reply to  Vicki

well said

Vagabond
Vagabond
April 13, 2025 5:48 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

I’m a medico and I think it’s completely inappropriate for her to try and use the title of Dr in her campaign because she thinks it will impress people. Her predecessor in Higgins was a liar who did the same. I believe she was a neurologist, a specialty I always thought attracted the smartest of all docs but in her case there is an obvious exception.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
April 13, 2025 7:21 pm
Reply to  Vagabond

But but but – think of Doctor Jill !

flyingduk
flyingduk
April 13, 2025 8:00 pm
Reply to  Vagabond

 specialty I always thought attracted the smartest of all docs 

Any doctor who wasnt deregistered during the covid era is already 2nd tier for knowledge and ethics.

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 13, 2025 3:28 pm

Defence Minister Richard Marles has argued his Liberal counterpart Andrew Hastie is not fit to lead the defence portfolio because of his “untenable” views on women in military combat roles.

You would think even a mediocre apparatchik like Marles would refrain from saying something like that. Marles isn’t fit to change a light globe.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 13, 2025 3:35 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

And when the first of those Australian women come home in body bags, having suffered God knows what, before their deaths?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 13, 2025 3:53 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

Marles: has never had a job in the real world.
Hastie: Captain in the SAS in combat

Which is the more qualified to lead the defence portfolio?

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 13, 2025 4:01 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

It’s a rather macabre past time of mine, reading pollimuppetts’ biographies- the bludge ‘degrees’, the ‘jobs’ in other pollimuppetts’ offices, the privilege afforded to them. No wonder they don’t like men and women with real life experience.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 13, 2025 4:51 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

Marles needs to leave this stuff to Low Wattage who seems to be the new KK. Not many in Albo’s clown cabinet can cast the first stone.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
April 13, 2025 5:21 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

Marles is an arrogant pr$#@.

When Deputy PM (From what I’m told used to get annoyed when referred to as MinDef, had to be by the higher term) on his visits to bases only sought out officers to speak to, I know he closed the main entrance and a couple of access roads so his motorcade wasn’t impeded on Lavarack Barracks and has single handily run down capability to levels never seen with his strategic review (aka cost cutting axe).

Hastie needs to call him out and ask his combat credentials.

Side note: Apparently Dutton was always well received by the troops, seeked NCO’s opinions and junior officers and apparently had an affinity to 3RAR. I hear the boys used to send him invites to most functions like Kapyong Day, he had multiple visits to that Battalion.

Vicki
Vicki
April 13, 2025 5:26 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

Marles is the last person I would want to see in the defence portfolio. He is an apologist for the the Woke ideas which are infesting the ADF.

The principle that women do not belong in combat roles on the front line in combat is so obvious that it should not even be debated.

Cassie of Sydney
April 13, 2025 3:39 pm

Late last night, after Seder, I walked home along Oxford Street. I noted Socialist Unity posters plastered on electricity poles and bus stops which said the following…..

We need to talk about Trump, Tariffs and Palestine

I tore every poster I saw down. Whilst leftist Nazis can put them up, I will tear them down.

Lee
Lee
April 13, 2025 3:48 pm

Congratulations, Cassie.

I’d shake your hand if I could.

If socialist and pro-Hamas vermin can tear down posters of Oct. 7 victims and hostages, then their putrid propaganda is absolutely fair game.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 13, 2025 3:50 pm

You must do these things, Cassie!

Lee
Lee
April 13, 2025 3:56 pm

Funny how the left (and not just the far-left) used to be in favour of tariffs until literally five minutes ago.

With the left it is always side over principle.

Vicki
Vicki
April 13, 2025 5:02 pm

Great stuff, Cassie. It is always hard for us law-abiding, “fair play” type people to engage in activities that we would normally oppose.

But the Left play by different rules, and the rest of us have suffered because of it. Time to turn the tables. Our survival may depend upon it.

My current mode of opposition is to laugh at the “soft” Lefties in my circle. The nasty ones turn feral, and the nice ones are just bewildered.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 13, 2025 5:25 pm

Go Cassie go!

Lee
Lee
April 13, 2025 3:41 pm

The federal government attacked Peter Dutton for wanting to do what Chris Minns wants to implement – get workers back into the office.

Predictably, federal Labor is schtum about Minns.

No double standards there, of course not!

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 13, 2025 3:53 pm

So socialists are all for ‘free trade’ now?

Bill From The Bush
Bill From The Bush
April 13, 2025 3:55 pm

My wife is from West Virginia and follows a WV faceplant page.
Picture is from there and she assures me that the good old boys would have only taken a day, not the week it says in the pic.

hillbilly-innovation
Pogria
Pogria
April 13, 2025 7:14 pm

Haw!

Gabor
Gabor
April 13, 2025 4:02 pm

An other view of how it all began.

Not my opinion, nor endorsed or otherwise.

By
Denzel Lim

The Shifting Sands of Manufacturing: A Rebuttal of US Accusations Against China
The narrative peddled by certain US administrations, particularly that of President Donald Trump, accusing China of “stealing” American jobs and manufacturing, is a gross oversimplification of a complex historical and economic relationship.

This accusation ignores the crucial role the US itself played in the development of China’s manufacturing sector and conveniently overlooks the environmental consequences of its own actions. A thorough examination reveals a far more nuanced picture, one where the US benefited significantly from China’s economic growth while simultaneously laying the groundwork for future accusations.

The initial phase of this relationship began during the Nixon administration’s opening to China. This marked a significant shift in global geopolitics, but it also inadvertently paved the way for the transfer of manufacturing to China.

Driven by the pursuit of cheaper labor costs, numerous American companies, along with their European counterparts, relocated their manufacturing operations to China. This was not a forced transfer; it was a conscious business decision predicated on maximizing profits.

The allure of significantly lower labor costs, coupled with a burgeoning Chinese workforce, proved irresistible. This period saw the establishment of numerous factories, many of which produced goods for the global market, including the US.

The influx of foreign investment fueled China’s economic growth. However, this growth was not without its environmental costs. Many of the factories relocated to China were those involved in industries with high pollution and carbon emissions. These companies, seeking to minimize expenses, often disregarded environmental regulations or exploited lax enforcement. It is crucial to acknowledge that China, during its early stages of development, lacked the infrastructure and regulatory capacity to effectively mitigate these environmental impacts.

The responsibility for this environmental damage does not solely rest with China; it is a shared responsibility between China and the multinational corporations that operated within its borders.
The subsequent economic reforms under Deng Xiaoping, with the influence of Singapore’s Lee Kuan Yew, further accelerated China’s economic growth.

The training programs for Chinese officials in Singapore contributed to a more efficient and market-oriented administrative system. This efficiency, coupled with the continued availability of cheap labor, made China an increasingly attractive destination for foreign investment. The economic boom that followed saw China become a global manufacturing powerhouse, producing goods for consumers worldwide.

However, the narrative shifted in the following decades. As China’s manufacturing sector matured, and as labor costs began to rise, the US began to voice concerns about job losses and unfair trade practices. The accusations leveled against China, ranging from intellectual property theft to currency manipulation, often lacked the historical context and nuance necessary for a fair assessment. The narrative conveniently ignored the decades of US companies profiting from cheap Chinese labor and the environmental consequences of their operations.

The accusation of “stealing” jobs is particularly misleading. The shift in manufacturing was not a result of theft or coercion; it was a consequence of market forces and rational business decisions. Companies sought to maximize profits by utilizing cheaper labor and resources, and China provided that opportunity. The US, in its pursuit of economic efficiency, actively participated in this process. Blaming China for the consequences of these decisions is a disingenuous attempt to shift responsibility.

The environmental concerns raised by the US also require a more nuanced understanding. While China’s environmental record is far from perfect, the pollution and carbon emissions are, to a significant extent, the result of manufacturing activities initiated and driven by foreign companies, including those from the US. The focus on China’s environmental problems, while valid, should not ignore the historical context and the role played by foreign corporations in contributing to these problems.

The accusations against China are not merely economic; they are also deeply political. They serve to deflect attention from domestic economic challenges within the US and to create a scapegoat for the decline of American manufacturing. This rhetoric, however, is counterproductive. It damages international relations, fosters mistrust, and undermines efforts towards global cooperation on crucial issues such as climate change.

A more constructive approach would involve acknowledging the shared responsibility for the past and focusing on collaborative solutions for the future, rather than engaging in unproductive blame games. The complex relationship between the US and China requires a far more nuanced and historically informed understanding than the simplistic accusations that have been leveled. Only then can a path towards mutually beneficial cooperation be forged.

JC
JC
April 13, 2025 5:04 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

China has broken nearly all important agreements it made with the ATO.

Intellectual Property theft

Forced technology transfers

Hidden restrictions to market access

Subsidies to state owned enterprises

No ability to find redress through its legal system

All nonsense.

JC
JC
April 13, 2025 5:14 pm
Reply to  JC

WTO!

Bill From The Bush
Bill From The Bush
April 13, 2025 4:26 pm
Reply to  Gabor

As soon as I see Nuance being used I automatically see the article as an attempt to shift blame to someone else. Similar to the blakfella handbook of accepting no responsibilty.
China willingly went along with the transfer of manufacturing from the West and also willingly ignored all environmental concerns at the same time.

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 13, 2025 4:41 pm

I thought the same thing when I saw Nuance. I think it was short sighted, greedy western executives taking advantage of cheap labour, lax environmental regulations and big markets. For the CCP it was a chance to ‘pump and dump’ as well as making western countries pathetically dependent on them.

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Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
April 13, 2025 4:47 pm
Reply to  Gabor

‘Nuanced’ views are precisely the reason why we are where we are vis a vis China. Realpolitik is all the CCP understand and its long past time they started getting some back the other way.

Lee
Lee
April 13, 2025 5:00 pm

I usually roll my eyes when I see the word “nuance” or “nuanced” used.

“The situation with Hamas is very nuanced.”

No, it’s not.

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Bill From The Bush
Bill From The Bush
April 13, 2025 6:48 pm
Reply to  Lee

Nuance belongs to the class of words known as
Weasel Words.
Often used by those critters that have man buns.

JC
JC
April 13, 2025 6:15 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

It’s only become problematic because the Chinese have declined to remained the subordinate participant in this global economic arrangement.

Basically reciting the CCP position. US business lost out for the reasons enumerated above.

JC
JC
April 13, 2025 6:56 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

If you say so.

Cassie of Sydney
April 13, 2025 4:22 pm

Before I head off to go to synagogue and second night Seder, I’ve been listening to the wonderful ‘The New Culture Forum’ weekly youtube discussion conducted between Peter Whittle, Amy Gallagher, Philip Kiszely and Rafe Heydel-Mankoo. I highly recommend this Youtube channel. I listen to their uploads every week and whilst they are UK centric a lot of the woke stuff applies here and it will only get worse under another three years of Abalone. Abalone has no shame, if he wins this election by only three votes he will use it to radically implement far-left policies such as death taxes and so on….we should be very scared.

The left never waste electoral mandates, even if they just crawl across the line they will use the opportunity to implement radical policities. In contrast the right, frequently gifted massive electoral mandates, squander their mandates and do SWEET FCK ALL.

However, in the UK in 2025 there is a palpable sense of malaise, frustration and despair under Fuhrer Sturmer. People are depressed, anxious and worried. But in this weekend’s discussion Peter, Philip, Amy and Rafe talk about the need for activism, and this also applies to us here in Oz. That’s why when I see poster by Socialist Unity plastered on bus stops and on electricity poles, I tear them down. We ALL need to be activists.

Vagabond
Vagabond
April 13, 2025 5:39 pm

I watch them regularly too. I don’t think I’ve ever seen them so angry as they are this week. The UK is sleepwalking into terrible times and I fear we might end up the same unless there is major change in government policy. Unfortunately the prospects of that are pretty small.

Lee
Lee
April 13, 2025 6:20 pm

And the problem is that the Tories are almost as bad as Labour.

Gabor
Gabor
April 13, 2025 4:54 pm

Sh.. towns of Australia.

Townsville, pick up your game!!!

Screenshot-2025-04-13-164528
Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 13, 2025 5:29 pm
Reply to  Gabor

The list left out Canbrrrrrrr. Full of crooks who take tax out of your wages, salary, other income and spending. Apparently all legal.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
April 13, 2025 5:48 pm
Reply to  Gabor

Trust me we’ll be back.

Did see 4 police cars under lights all speeding out to Bushland Beach last night near Bohle Pub at 12:00am on my way home from the airport.

Even for here I thought 4 cars was impressive and the s&^% hit the fan somewhere. I’m tipping trouble at the Tavern out there which actually isn’t too bad being an old resort during day hours. Night time can have a rough edge however.

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thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 13, 2025 5:06 pm

Live regional, large % Aboriginal pensioner in a couple of areas of town.
Local butcher allows clients to use centerpay ( money can be deducted from the next government payment due) to buy meat, same price/ quality as everyone gets.
Been going well.
Government just told him they will cut that payment option off for him, he will lose 1/2 his business and shut.

We have the most retarded people in government, it’s not even close.

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MatrixTransform
April 13, 2025 5:14 pm
mem
mem
April 13, 2025 6:30 pm

Where do the vegans and part-time vegetarians stand on this? Also I am allergic to some seafoods so don’t want insect meal inserted into stock or any pre packaged stuff or restaurants etc. Will labelling fix it? Nope. It will require big alerts and education program. Whomever just marked that article down might have contributed to my death by dissuading me to not read it. Is that what you intended marker downer?

MatrixTransform
April 13, 2025 5:16 pm

ha ha … good timing frollicker

shatterzzz
April 13, 2025 6:11 pm

Not too popular with lotza media outlets but no probs with “normal” people .. The God Emperor at, today’s, UFC extravaganza ……!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1911239189737226370

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Gabor
Gabor
April 13, 2025 6:13 pm

Price of smokes.

Anyone has a stat for the corresponding % of smokers/population to show how effective these taxes are?

Zippster
Zippster
April 13, 2025 6:15 pm

In an all-hands meeting, Elon Musk announced a new mission for Tesla: transitioning from focusing solely on sustainable energy to achieving “sustainable abundance.” This concept involves leveraging AI, robotics, and transportation to create a future where goods and services are abundant and accessible to all, potentially eliminating poverty. The vision relies heavily on advancements in autonomous robots, like Tesla’s Optimus, and AI, which could revolutionize industries by making labor cheap and abundant. The discussion, featuring Chartered Financial Analyst Cern Basher, delves into Tesla’s strategy and potential societal impacts. The path involves transitioning through several phases, moving from early robot adoption to full automation. This shift could create economic disruption initially, displacing jobs, but promises long-term benefits such as economic growth and cheaper goods. However, there are significant challenges, including societal unease and potential increased inequality. Policymakers face the task of managing these transitions responsibly, which might involve policies like universal basic income or retraining programs. Long-term, society could focus more on quality of life and personal growth as robots handle labor, but transitioning to such a paradigm poses profound societal questions. The future depends on how humanity adapts to these rapid technological changes.

mem
mem
April 13, 2025 6:36 pm
Reply to  Zippster

Don’t want to quibble but just when was building toxic batteries and engineering electricity dependent cars sustainable?

Rabz
April 13, 2025 6:42 pm

Rabz believes that Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK!

Talk about a conspiracy hypothesis!

What a nutter.

Sacre bleu, Squire! 😕

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 13, 2025 6:44 pm

Cassie of Sydney
 April 13, 2025 3:39 pm

Late last night, after Seder, I walked home along Oxford Street. I noted Socialist Unity posters plastered on electricity poles and bus stops which said the following…..
We need to talk about Trump, Tariffs and Palestine
I tore every poster I saw down. Whilst leftist Nazis can put them up, I will tear them down.

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Be bloody careful will you. Thugs galore.

Last edited 1 hour ago by Steve Trickler
Rabz
April 13, 2025 6:47 pm

Before I head off to go to Synagogue and second night Seder, I’ve been listening to the wonderful New Gold Dream album … 🙂

Rabz
April 13, 2025 6:52 pm

We need to talk about Prez Fatty Trump, Tariffs and the removal of arabs from Greater Israel

Yes.

Yes, we do.

Collectivists will not be happy about the inevitability, but when have they ever been happy about anything, I asks ya?

Sod them and the goats they rode in on. 🙂

Rabz
April 13, 2025 6:54 pm
Rabz
April 13, 2025 7:00 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 13, 2025 7:04 pm

Peter Dutton will order federal police to revisit all reports of anti-Semitic hate they have received since the October 7, 2023, mass­acre unleashed a torrent of abuse against Jewish Australians, in an election bid to end the attacks prompted by the conflict in the Middle East.
After nearly 18 months of Jewish Australians being targeted in their homes and synagogues by alleged criminal operatives and other anti-Semites, the Coalition has told the Executive Council of Australian Jewry that an anti-Semitism taskforce within the Australian Federal Police will be made to investigate all outstanding complaints of hate.
It will also be ordered to revisit dozens of anti-Semitic incidents since October 7, 2023, that police previously decided not to pursue.
With both Labor and the ­Coalition submitting to an election policy questionnaire put out by the peak Jewish body in recent weeks, ECAJ has also declared there is a “stark” difference between Anthony Albanese and the Opposition Leader on Israel – particularly the ALP insistence to keep up its support for Palestinian interests at the UN.
The Coalition has again said it will not do deals with the Greens.
Labor has not clarified whether it will deny preferences to the anti-Israel party outside its decision to run an open ticket in the inner-Melbourne seat of Macnamara, which has one of the ­nation’s larger Jewish voter bases.

Rabz
April 13, 2025 7:13 pm

The labore pardee will enter into an unholy agreement with the greenfilth if it saves their staggeringly stupid lard laden house sized bottomages.

This is not some sort of unimaginable possibility, Cats, it’s an inevitability, I tells ya – unless enough voters decide otherwise …

You know what to do … 😕

Rabz
April 13, 2025 7:18 pm
Reply to  Rabz

And if you’re not convinced, here’s some Miss Magee Dodgers and her Hollyweirdettes, I tells ya! 🙂

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 13, 2025 7:58 pm
Reply to  Rabz

Open season for a start.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 13, 2025 7:22 pm

Newspoll: Hung parliament looms as Coalition’s primary vote drops
From the Oz.

bons
bons
April 13, 2025 7:27 pm

Yeah. Na.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 13, 2025 8:05 pm
Reply to  bons

Newspoll record is pretty good. Just doesn’t seem to match the feels. I’m less bullish about the Lieborals getting the numbers though.

Rabz
April 13, 2025 7:31 pm

Hanged parliament looms as voters blow their stack

If only …

JC
JC
April 13, 2025 7:53 pm

Honest question as opposed to dishonest

Are the Liars closer to the libs or the slime in terms of broad policies? I find it hard to figure this out.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 13, 2025 8:19 pm
Reply to  JC

I no longer care JC they all should be given the Ol Yella treatment.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 13, 2025 8:19 pm
Reply to  JC

The Slime on the important ones, ruinable “energy”, klimate change, foreign policy, Israel, free speech for a start.

Last edited 7 minutes ago by Boambee John
JC
JC
April 13, 2025 8:27 pm
Reply to  Boambee John

Out of those, the only difference I see is the position on Israel.

Rabz
April 13, 2025 7:54 pm
  1. The Slime on the important ones, ruinable “energy”, klimate change, foreign policy, Israel, free speech for a start.

  2. Newspoll record is pretty good. Just doesn’t seem to match the feels. I’m less bullish about the Lieborals getting the…

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