Open Thread – Thurs 13 July 2023


The Hay Wain, John Constable,1821

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Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 14, 2023 4:44 pm

Let’s hope our Brit doesn’t roll up to the UN Geneva office at 1 am with a fella

If she does, it won’t be the Lehrmann lookalike Mr Sharaz.

He will have been given the lemon and sars long before then.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 14, 2023 4:45 pm

I already wanted Their ABC to lose badly, now I want the judge to order a randomly selected 1-in-10 of their on-air talent who’re paid $300,000 or more p.a. to receive 100 lashes with a properly braided cat’o nine tails.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 14, 2023 4:48 pm

Higgins to the U.N.?

Linda Reynolds to have attack of the vapours in 5 .. 4 .. 3 ..

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 14, 2023 4:50 pm

Has Heston become a Muslim yet?

Or stepped out for The Voice?

It’s only a matter of time, Joffa.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 14, 2023 4:51 pm

GreyRanga Jul 14, 2023 4:40 PM

Sal that doesn’t sound like 45 kg price. More like 210 kg price.

That’s the thing informally called a “fatboy”? Not sure what they cost, but it is a far more expensive to me than buying it in 9-packs.

The price is just over $3000 for a 9-pack (or $339 per 45kg bottle) up a year ago from $2500
Early 2021 they were $2000.

Those are some hefty price increments.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 14, 2023 4:56 pm

Let’s hope our Brit doesn’t roll up to the UN Geneva office at 1 am with a fella.

Kind of a smart move for her.

The UN is even less mindful of money than the Australian parliament. Here there is at least a notional opposition and FOI protocols. The UN is just one grotesque bacchanal with occasional formulaic ritualised speeches the only obligation.

And if Brittney points the finger at anyone, claiming rape, they won’t object. It might have been them. And it is not their money.

I would not be surprised if every office in Turtle Bay has multiple designer jackets of different sizes belonging to no one in particular but available disrobed denizens embarking upon bank account topping excursions.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 14, 2023 4:57 pm

I’m thinkin’ someone in the Albanese ‘Government’ got on the blower to the GAYBC and told them to nix the bullshit on the Heston Russell joke.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 14, 2023 5:00 pm

What’s this bullshit really all about?
The ABC hasn’t alleged Gayboy Heston murdered anybody, just that a murder happened in the vicinity.
Heston has already said he’s suffrin’ from Gender Confusion, so the bearded weirdo can’t be too worried about his reputation.

He’s passed selection for Commandos, Grogs – I reckon you’d last twenty minutes before bawling for your mother.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 14, 2023 5:08 pm

He’s passed selection for Commandos, Grogs – I reckon you’d last twenty minutes before bawling for your mother.

If it involves murdering people, I wouldn’t be putting my hand up in the first place.
You sound like you’ve got a hard on for nthat sorta stuff though?

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
July 14, 2023 5:11 pm

Such is life and life is such and after all it isn’t much. First a cradle. Then a hearse. It might have been better, but it could have been worse.

– Sir Norman Wisdom

Rosie
Rosie
July 14, 2023 5:13 pm
Roger
Roger
July 14, 2023 5:16 pm

Just get a load of this and why humanity can’t survive.

Humanity will survive.

Might be for the best if these chumps don’t procreate though.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
July 14, 2023 5:17 pm

UN Geneva is also where the unlamented Gillian Triggs hangs out, having wiped from her feet the dust of this genocidal patriarchal fascist hell-hole. I wonder if she helped secure this gig for Ms H, who got 3 million of the Australian taxpayer’s dosh because she supposedly could never work again.

cohenite
July 14, 2023 5:18 pm

Gutfeld on The Five today did a great impersonation of cackles camel-toe. If Gutfeld goes from Fox that’s it for me.

JC
JC
July 14, 2023 5:19 pm

If Gutfeld goes from Fox that’s it for me.

Bullshit, you’re welded on.

cohenite
July 14, 2023 5:24 pm

Not content with destroying the US the old, treasonous pervert is going to destroy the world:

MADMAN: Biden Orders US Military To Deploy in Europe

cohenite
July 14, 2023 5:26 pm

Bullshit, you’re welded on.

Only to you, you man you.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 14, 2023 5:29 pm

Predictably (the Hun):

The director of the iconic film, Titanic, has reportedly been approached to direct a drama series about the Titan submarine disaster.

James Cameron better ring me about my plotline.

JC
JC
July 14, 2023 5:35 pm

This is a cute owl. Those others are just cheap trannies.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 14, 2023 5:35 pm

Ed Case
Jul 14, 2023 4:57 PM
I’m thinkin’ someone in the Albanese ‘Government’ got on the blower to the GAYBC and told them to nix the bullshit on the Heston Russell joke.

In the absence of mUnty, Turd Case now holds the title of Blog Wrongologist.

Indeed, even when/if mUnty returns, Turd Case will still give him a run for the title.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
July 14, 2023 5:37 pm

cohenite
Jul 14, 2023 5:24 PM
Not content with destroying the US the old, treasonous pervert is going to destroy the world:

MADMAN: Biden Orders US Military To Deploy in Europe

Only the US Congress can authorise full on WAR unless the Neocons really have taken over that is.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 14, 2023 5:39 pm

Turd Case

If it involves murdering people, I wouldn’t be putting my hand up in the first place.

Make up your mind (if you actually have one). You only just posted this:

What’s this bullshit really all about?
The ABC hasn’t alleged Gayboy Heston murdered anybody, just that a murder happened in the vicinity.

Which suggests you consider that he didn’t murder anyone.

cohenite
July 14, 2023 5:40 pm

This is a cute owl. Those others are just cheap trannies.

Yawn; she’s pretty but has no tone. I don’t know why you’re so scared of a bit of muscle on a girl. I suspect some childhood trauma of being mugged by a couple of girls in kindee. The only solution is exposure to some girl muscle:

Now, take a deep breath; I’ve selected a mid range muscle girl with some nice pouting lips and glasses to mitigate the intimidation factor. Real cute owl.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 14, 2023 5:44 pm

SITREP 7/14/23: Popov’s Sound and Fury and Vilnius Signifying Nothing

SIMPLICIUS THE THINKER
14 JUL 2023

Let’s begin with the most talked about news, which is that the Russian commander of the 58th Army was removed for allegedly questioning his higher-ups, i.e. Shoigu and Gerasimov.

General Ivan Popov was replaced by Lt. General Lyamin, who was his previous deputy in the 58th. A little background: Popov was a relatively young, fast-rising general who only became the commander of the 58th army relatively recently. The 58th is the flagship combined arms army of the Southern Military District, and is not only the storied army group which single handedly trashed Georgia in 2008, but has also recently been the group handling the entire Zaporozhye front, heroically repelling the AFU’s largest offensive of the war. Also, it should be noted that Gerasimov himself once commanded the 58th.

Now, to take you chronologically through what happened, Popov released an audio recording, which we now know was posted to an exclusively private group of his own subordinates and was not meant for wide release. This changes a lot of the calculus as it clearly shifts the perceived tone of what Popov was trying to accomplish. Initially, it would seem he was going ‘rogue’ like Prigozhin, and publicly denouncing the superiors, but in fact that’s not the case.

The person who leaked the audio was none other than State Duma deputy and respected ex-General, Andrey Gurulyov. Russian senator Turchak blamed him thusly:

Turchak said that yesterday’s statement of General Popov was distributed in closed chats of the 58th army and its publication on the network is a personal initiative of General Gurulev: “The appeal of General Popov was not public and was posted in closed chats of commanders and fighters of the 58th Army. The fact that” deputy ” Gurulev somehow got it and made a political show out of it, let it remain on his conscience. As well as his other statements and comments. And Ivan’s conscience is clear. The Motherland can be proud of such commanders. The army was and remains outside politics.”

First, let’s play the recording itself:

The AI translation above is a little rough around the edges, so here’s a fuller translation below, to follow along:

At the end of the day, Shoigu and Gerasimov have now added precisely one new critic to the previous pool of two total.

We have the eminent Strelkov, Prigozhin, and now Popov who believe the MOD to be sabotaging Russia in some way. Are three people enough to form the basis of a hasty and sound conclusion? How about all the dozens of commanders and generals with the completely contradictory view, in whose interviews I watched them praise the MOD? Are their words to be discarded by way of the classical selection bias?

The point I’m trying to make is that we shouldn’t dismiss or discard Popov’s claims. He appears to be an upstanding commander with no ‘artificial’ axe to grind. With that said, he’s a young commander who was clearly under the highest form of stress in his short tenure of command, as he was helming the army tasked with taking the brunt of the AFU’s counter-offensive attack. Perhaps experiencing the horrors of the most intensely kinetic front of the war made him lose his cool. Certainly, the issues he speaks of are ones plaguing both sides, and certainly I believe Russia can and should do better in addressing them. Do I blame him for speaking out? No, but I can see both sides. On one hand, an army can never improve if good people don’t speak out, but on the other hand, you can’t gainsay or challenge your command as a soldier, this is a fundamental precept of army life and leadership.

Ultimately, I know for a fact we don’t have all the details, and much of the intrigues I gave a taste of above are likely just the tip of the iceberg of what’s truly going on.

Until we get more of the story, we can’t ascribe too much blame to one side or the other.

Furthermore, a huge new leaked report uncovers the mass-scale desertion and demoralization utterly decimating the AFU from the inside out.

Click the link above to view the ream of scanned documents showing Ukraine’s units down to 20% levels of effectiveness, riven by demoralization. An example:

Valery Markus, chief sergeant of the 47th brigade of the Ukraine, announced his resignation to a lower position due to disagreement with the command staff.

This guy was one of the very top stars of the AFU, having given many interviews to top Western publications, done photo shoots with Zelensky and Zaluzhny, and was even rated as having the largest social media following of any figure in the Ukrainian armed forces:

Thus, his public resignation is a major sign of morale depletion in the AFU.

So next time someone brings up General Popov’s untimely dismissal in drumming up the issue of morale, remind them that the AFU is in far worse shape. Not to speak of the terrible state that Western militaries are in, in general. Last I checked, Russian Marines weren’t sex trafficking handicapped fourteen year olds in their bases like the USMC:

JC
JC
July 14, 2023 5:45 pm

Margot is “toned” enough.
Cronkite, how many times do you have to be told that gals shouldn’t be muscled up. Honestly, I don’t know what’s got into you.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 14, 2023 5:54 pm

Ukrainian reports reveal Zelensky’s army is psychologically crushed, suffering “lowest possible effectiveness”.

Mike Jones – t.me/iEarlGreyTVJuly 14, 2023

Members of Ukraine’s Law Enforcement Agencies that oppose the Kiev regime have leaked internal documents and reports that reveal a flood of cases of soldiers of the 2nd and 5th Mechanized Battalions deserting their posts with units being deemed to be combat ineffective.

According to the findings dated April 20th 2023 of Major Usenov, the TVO of the deputy commander for morale and psychological support of the 2nd Mechanized Battalion of the A4007 military unit, “The current state of affairs in the unit leads to the lowest possible effectiveness of performance of tasks as intended, which may lead to negative consequences, loss of the defense lines and complete loss of the combat capability of the unit”.

Major Usenov goes on to assess the “moral qualities and combat capability level” of the units as low as 20%. In the report, the causes are listed as “a low level of morale and psychological state of the personnel, which significantly reduces the level of combat readiness…” and “a large number of sanitary and irreversible losses”.

cohenite
July 14, 2023 5:55 pm

The only way sheilas can compete with trannies is to muscle up. You haven’t thought this through head prefect. Blokes can’t always be around to look after the ladies so this is the best way to enable them to resist the threat of the trannies.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
July 14, 2023 5:58 pm

My comedy is for children from three to 93. You do need a slightly childish sense of humour and if you haven’t got that, it’s very sad.

– Sir Norman Wisdom

miltonf
miltonf
July 14, 2023 6:03 pm
Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 14, 2023 6:05 pm

So someone called Noble has won the right to wear the female’s uniform because his sexuality is a liquid (or whatever).

Having obliterated the idea of ‘man’ and ‘woman’ we must consider…what if a soldier decides that they are a dog? Or a cat?

Or a mine!

They could lay on the ground perfectly still until someone walked near them, and then jump up shouting “BOOM” and making other explosion sounds, all the while flailing their arms about and hopping from one leg to the other.

Can we send these ones to Ukraine?

I also seem to remember hearing the country previously being called The Ukraine. Was that just while they had the nuclear weapons so everyone thought they should use the most deferential title they could – the geopolitical version of calling them ‘Sir’? And after surrendering their arsenal – no nukes Ukes – they just became ‘that Ukraine’ or ‘stupid Ukraine’, ‘poor old Ukraine’, or just plain ‘Ukraine’.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 14, 2023 6:08 pm

I read the SFL’s have used the mob a lot. $2.2 million given for a couple of months work when in power. ( Guardian )

Things we learn. Let’s learn some more.

Crowder:

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Top Ender
Top Ender
July 14, 2023 6:13 pm

From Zulu’s story above, the ABC going bats over the new diverse Army captain.

The Army of course agreed:

When Captain Jesse Noble realised they were gender diverse, it “was kind of like getting hit in the face with a truck”.

“I really associate with both genders,” Captain Noble said.

“It’s this middle ground of the two.”

At 35 years old, they had spent their entire life in the Pentecostal Church. They were married with kids and a captain in the Australian Army.

Their life seemed completely at odds with a genuine expression of their gender identity.

“I was very closeted about it,” Captain Noble said.

“And I thought that I was basically going to tell maybe three people in my whole life.”

Captain Jesse Noble leads the ADF float at Darwin Pride. (Supplied: (A)manda Parkinson)

Despite that, in February, Captain Noble took their heart in their hands and fronted up to their boss at Darwin’s First Combat Signals Regiment.

“I said, ‘Hey, so I’m going to be putting some paperwork up to you,’” they said.

“I’m gender diverse. I’m non-binary, and I am going to be opting for the female uniform.”

Male dress standards in the army are stringent: hair must be cut shorter than 4 centimetres. No piercing, make-up or fingernail polish is permitted.

Captain Noble told their boss the female dress standards provided a greater range of gender expression in terms of who they were as a person.

According to army rules, non-binary and intersex people are not entitled to choose their uniforms.

Not knowing how the request would be received, Captain Noble pushed on.

“That’s a really important step for me,” they said.

“And I think it’s an important step for the army as well.”

ABC

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 14, 2023 6:15 pm

At 35 years old, they had spent their entire life in the Pentecostal Church

Bing.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 14, 2023 6:15 pm

165 Kg woman in the bed across from me. She is pumped full of drugs and they can’t give her any more. Still whinging.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 14, 2023 6:15 pm

She is pumped full of drugs and they can’t give her any more. Still whinging

Not English by any chance, is she?

JC
JC
July 14, 2023 6:17 pm

Ranga

Where the hell are you?

miltonf
miltonf
July 14, 2023 6:17 pm

The army is controlled by canbra and nothing good comes out of canbra.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 14, 2023 6:18 pm

Public wards are a bit of an eye opener. Luckily I spent most of my time in a single room. Looxury.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
July 14, 2023 6:22 pm

Knuckle Dragger
Jul 14, 2023 6:15 PM
She is pumped full of drugs and they can’t give her any more. Still whinging

Not English by any chance, is she?

Probably one of your Neanderthal relatives…………………….

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2023 6:24 pm

Danistan has amusingly been wrangling about upgrading Myki for years. Gonna gonna happen soon. Meanwhile:

Public transport across New South Wales made ‘seamless’ with introduction of new Express Mode feature to all Opal readers (Sky News, 14 Jul)

Under the new upgrade to Opal, commuters will now be able to tap on and off using Express Mode on devices with Apple Pay – including iPhones and Apple Watches – without having to unlock them first.

The “amazing” technology will also allow users with the newest iPhone model to tap even if the battery is dead, provided the latest software update has been installed.

That’s quite something, that you can pay for a train ticket using even a flat phone. I somehow lost my Opal card years ago but likewise years ago NSW implemented tap on tap off with ordinary credit cards, so I never bothered getting another one. I love how the more socialist a place is the worse it works.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 14, 2023 6:25 pm

“That’s a really important step for me,” they said.
“And I think it’s an important step for the army as well.”

This. This is exactly it.

These dunderheads, pretend women or not, fail to realise the simple truth that when you join an organisation like the Army that it stops being all about you.

You have joined something that is greater than yourself. Yes there is free medical and dental (or there was), but that comes with an undertaking to do things you do really really might not want to do to further a larger cause and/or goal.

At a more macro level, you are there not for yourself but the people around you, and they are – or should be* – there for you.

It is pissweak on a Mount Everest level that the organisation responsible for the defence of this wide brown land even entertains this selfish, selfish type of individualism.

If you want to be an individual – go and open a pie cart.

*Hi Bob.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 14, 2023 6:32 pm

Myki was the first real indication Victoriastan needed help.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 14, 2023 6:33 pm

Not English by any chance, is she?
….
Probably one of your Neanderthal relatives…………………….

Doubt it. None of my relatives have been to that shitcart French colony since my grandfather in 1915.

That was before he went over the Channel to save your relatives.

Roger
Roger
July 14, 2023 6:35 pm

I love how the more socialist a place is the worse it works.

Socialism = equality in misery for all (the nomenklatura excepted).

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 14, 2023 6:42 pm

The Pommy’s Lament, by Danny Spooner:

Hoorah for good old England, we’ll soon be going there
This awful life and hungry strife we can no longer bear
We were pitched into the back blocks, we might just as well’ve been dead
A chaff bag for our pillow and the ground our featherbed

We lived on tea and damper and sometimes kangaroo
Daytimes we were scorched to death, the night times frozen blue
But now at last we see a chance at getting from this hole
Hoorah for good old England where they’re dishing out the dough

The riposte, said to be from an old bushman:

You whinging lot of bastards, no bloody guts you got
I hope the bloody boat goes down and drowns the bloody lot
Since you’ve been out in Aussie you’ve done nothing else but moan
You’re just a whinging lot of bastards and you should have stayed at home

You thought you’d pick up nuggets in our bloody creeks
You thought you’d pick up sovereigns in our bloody streets
You thought you’d make your fortune after being out here a day
You’re just a whinging lot of bastards and you should have stayed away

Hahaha haaa. It’s not just me then.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 14, 2023 6:42 pm

Public wards are a bit of an eye opener. Luckily I spent most of my time in a single room. Looxury.

Padded cell?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 14, 2023 6:46 pm

Andrew Forrest nemesis Yindjibarndi Ngurra Aboriginal Corporation among first heritage law advisor groups
Josh Zimmerman
The West Australian
Fri, 14 July 2023 3:23PM

The native title group warring with Andrew Forrest’s mining company over unpaid royalties is among the first organisations to be designated a “one-stop shop” for consultation required by updated Aboriginal heritage laws.

Aboriginal Affairs Minister Tony Buti announced the formation of three Local Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Services on Friday – two weeks after the controversial new legislation came into effect.

The Yindjibarndi Ngurra Aboriginal Corporation – currently locked in a protracted legal stoush with Fortescue Metals Group over an expanse of land that includes three central Pilbara iron ore mines – is among the first of those LACHS.

In 2017, the Yindjibarndi people were formally granted exclusive native title rights over a 2700sqkm tract of land on which Fortescue’s Solomon Hub sits.

Three years later in 2020 the High Court denied Fortescue leave to appeal the decision and the Federal Court is now in the process of determining much compensation the Yindjibarndi are owed, with assisted dispute resolution to begin on-country in August.

The second LACHS is Karajarri Traditional Lands Association, which oversees around 32,000sqkm of land and waterways west of Broome, including Bidyadanga – the largest Aboriginal community in WA.

The recent death of a significant elder connected to the third organisation – also located in the Pilbara – means it has not yet been named, but will be officially unveiled following the conclusion of Sorry Business.

The LACHS announcement follows the first meeting on Friday of a cross-sector implementation group tasked with overseeing the rollout of the controversial new heritage laws, which have been widely criticised for causing confusion among impacted stakeholders.

“Each organisation is highly experienced and well respected for their collaboration in agreement making and has an unwavering commitment to protect and manage the cultural heritage values of their country for future generations,” Dr Buti said.

Each of the LACHS will receive a $200,000 State Government grant to “build capacity, recruit or upskill staff” as well as up to $300,000 in annual funding to help meet operational costs.

Dr Buti said an additional 31 Aboriginal organisations had begun the process to become recognised as LACHS.

Despite being envisaged as a central plank of WA’s new Aboriginal heritage laws – which passed Parliament in late 2021 – not a single LACHS was up and running in time for the July 1 start date of the new regime.

The refreshed laws create separate tiers of ground disturbing activity, with significant new development – besides on residential properties smaller than 1100sqm – requiring proponents to ensure there is no Aboriginal heritage on the site before getting underway.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 14, 2023 6:47 pm

In hospital JC. She’s dinky di Australian. I had an Indian Specialist. We talked cricket.

Indolent
Indolent
July 14, 2023 6:54 pm
John H.
John H.
July 14, 2023 7:00 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Jul 14, 2023 6:46 PM
Andrew Forrest nemesis Yindjibarndi Ngurra Aboriginal Corporation among first heritage law advisor groups
Josh Zimmerman
The West Australian
Fri, 14 July 2023 3:23PM

The native title group warring with Andrew Forrest’s mining company over unpaid royalties is among the first organisations to be designated a “one-stop shop” for consultation required by updated Aboriginal heritage laws. ….

Those laws are great for the NO case. I hope the NO advocates make good use of the opportunity.

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 14, 2023 7:01 pm

From Zulu’s story above, the ABC going bats over the new diverse Army captain.

It’s times like these when the first thing that comes into your head is that we’re well and truly f*cked.

Last night I made a bit of a joke about the proposed wind turbines soon to be installed off NSW between the Central Coast and Port Stephens.

How, I surmised, would our planned nuclear powered subs negotiate a bunch of giant fans if the new submarine port is to be Newcastle and there was a need to chase down the enemy.

Now, having read about the travails of Captain Noble, I don’t think the possible interplay between the two matters – either as a joke or in actuality. That’s because neither can be outdone by the good Captain.

Indolent
Indolent
July 14, 2023 7:01 pm

The FBI put this tweet out with their official statement which Twitter has fact checked to show that they did indeed surveil parents attending school board meetings. In other words, they are lying. But why should we be surprised.

FBI
@FBI

In reference to the false assertions about investigating parents at school board meetings, #FBI Director Wray told the House Judiciary Committee that the Bureau is not in the business of policing speech.

Indolent
Indolent
July 14, 2023 7:03 pm
Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
July 14, 2023 7:04 pm

At age 11, I went to a Jewish school. I speak Yiddish. I’m Church of England Protestant. My father was Catholic, and my mother was Protestant. My wife is a Muslim.

– Michael Caine

Indolent
Indolent
July 14, 2023 7:05 pm
miltonf
miltonf
July 14, 2023 7:13 pm

The eloi- pollimuppets, pubic serpents, bank executives, lawyers, academics are so insulated from the harsh realities of life that they think they can attack productive people without consequence.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2023 7:28 pm

Billionaire hedge fund manager who was key DeSantis backer ‘has PAUSED support for Florida governor’s ailing 2024 campaign after “growing impatient” with his poor performance’

Always fun to watch where the elite money is going.

Report: Top Donors Considering Moving from Ron DeSantis to Tim Scott (13 Jul)

Republican primary voters aren’t responding to DeSantis entire because he’s too close to the elite donor class. So it’s entertaining that the elit5e donor class is now moving to the next patsy.

I like Tim Scott a lot but he hasn’t a snowball’s chance.

If anyone wants to be the Republican candidate they have to dump on the Republican elites, which Trump is doing. The base is pissed off to infinity and beyond, they want a clean out. With more that soft soap.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 14, 2023 7:30 pm

ALPBC luvvie Alan Kohler gets a bit of a touch up courtesy of this week’s Media Watchdog. Woof woof.

Crossie
Crossie
July 14, 2023 7:32 pm

I somehow lost my Opal card years ago but likewise years ago NSW implemented tap on tap off with ordinary credit cards, so I never bothered getting another one. I love how the more socialist a place is the worse it works.

That’s what I do now if I have to use the public transport, which is very rare. Last year my Swedish visitors thought it was the bees knees to simply tap on and off with their credit cards. In three weeks they used Sydney’s public transport more than I did in the last ten years.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2023 7:35 pm

Unprecedented: Athlete Cardiac Arrests Killed 1,310 In 2.5 Years, Injured 574

Achilles’ Choice, by Larry Niven and Steve Barnes (1991)

Jillian Shomer had won the right to compete in the Eleventh Olympiad. She and her competitors were the best and brightest, three thousand of the finest minds and bodies that had ever strode the planet.

Yet within a few short years, ninety-eight percent of them would be dead. Only a handful would survive to take their place among Earth’s ruling elite.

To win this coveted prize, the athletes used the most advanced technique available to medicine: The Boost, an operation that conveyed brilliant intellect and superhuman strength—at a terrible price…

Once Boosted, there followed burnout. The mind and body suffered mental and physical disintegration—and death—in just a few short years.

Larry Niven was a fine and prophetic SF writer…

Roger
Roger
July 14, 2023 8:00 pm

AAP:

New RBA boss to follow Lowe’s lead on interest rates

Australia’s mediocracy is well and truly entrenched.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 14, 2023 8:11 pm

New RBA boss to follow Lowe’s lead on interest rates

Hard to see what else they could do. Zero margin for error this time around.

Roger
Roger
July 14, 2023 8:13 pm

Hard to see what else they could do.

Pause.

Deflation is a real risk.

Roger
Roger
July 14, 2023 8:13 pm

Worldwide.

Roger
Roger
July 14, 2023 8:15 pm

Starting with China.

(Sorry…I should say it all in one comment :D)

miltonf
miltonf
July 14, 2023 8:16 pm

So what’s Lowe going to do with himself now? Spend more time with his ComSuper?

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 14, 2023 8:19 pm

Possibly. The volume of ultra low fixed rate mortgages is the real unknown this time around. Pain is very concentrated – large numbers sailing on unaffected.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 14, 2023 8:23 pm

Mmmm. Zero upticks. Groogs other (albeit less sticky) habit.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 14, 2023 8:24 pm

Defiant Geraldton mayor pushes on with tree planting

By paul garvey
Senior Reporter
@PDGarvey
7:50PM July 14, 2023
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The mayor at the centre of a controversy surrounding Western Australia’s new Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act has gone ahead and ordered the planting of hundreds of trees at another location – only this time the new site actually contains Aboriginal cultural heritage.

Geraldton mayor Shane Van Styn told The Weekend Australian the hundreds of saplings originally scheduled to be planted at a burnt-out piece of bushland had been quietly planted in recent days inside a river catchment area.

A week ago, Mr Van Styn said the town’s planting of trees at Wonthella Bushland Reserve had been abandoned after a local Indigenous family expressed objections. While he said the council had stopped due to fears they could breach WA’s new Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act, which came into force at the start of the month, the family has said its objections were due to the connection of the planting to Queen Elizabeth II’s jubilee.
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WA Premier Roger Cook and Aboriginal Affairs Minister Tony Buti said during the week that the planting should not have been stopped by the act.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 14, 2023 8:36 pm

WA Premier Roger Cook and Aboriginal Affairs Minister Tony Buti said during the week that the planting should not have been stopped by the act.

But it did didn’t it. That wanker residing in Swinging Pig now on $250,000+ a year for life thinks he’s absolved from all this. His name needs to be dragged through the mud.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 14, 2023 8:40 pm

Rodriguez.

His voice and lyrics grabs your attention.

Rodriguez – Cause

John H.
John H.
July 14, 2023 8:43 pm

Roger
Jul 14, 2023 8:15 PM
Starting with China.

(Sorry…I should say it all in one comment :D)

Next year will be very interesting. Many worrying economic signals in various countries. Britain is a mess. While here in Aus China is presented as real and present danger if we get past the media and political hype China has some big problems that will grow. Having written that …

“Economic forecasting was created to make astrology look respectable.” Galbraith.

cohenite
July 14, 2023 8:45 pm

Vales Point coal closure date pushed back four years in latest threat to renewables transition

It’s at renew economy and the comments are stupid beyond belief. So just to stir I put this in:

The Eraring coal-fired power station is set to stay open past 2025 with government and industry sources concerned the pipeline of renewable energy projects will not be ready in time. Leading energy industry sources warn Premier Chris Minns will not be able to close the plant until replacement energy sources are ready.

Dailytelegraph

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 14, 2023 8:47 pm

After two weeks in Ireland, I’m reporting in on the most interesting question – for me – of travelling around.

“Why, if you’re so concerned about sovereignty in your future, and in your past, have you become an independent country, yet are still beholden to the European Union? Why do you want all of your laws approved, or not, by Brussels? Why have you, in effect, cast off one Empire to be part of another?”

The answer: they give us money.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 14, 2023 8:57 pm

Whinging Pom news, from The Times – fairy floss journo Alyson (with a Y) Rudd on Chick Wimbledon:

Not one person on Centre Court for the two women’s semi-finals was feeling grumpy that they had drawn the short straw. Ben Whishaw, the actor, was sitting in the Royal Box, looking like he might burst out of his jacket with delight.

Who? Oh, Whishaw the actor. Who?

This has been a championships in which it is the women who have shone, who have managed to combine compelling personal narratives with exceptional athleticism, imagination and power.

Just not as much athleticism and power as the men. Got it.

Perhaps now, at last, the sniffiness can stop. It does not matter that the women play the best of three sets and yet earn the same amount of prize money.

Why yes. Yes, it matters very much.

So much – too much – is made of Djokovic’s long walk towards history, that he could equal Margaret Court’s record of 24 grand-slam singles titles. It will be nice for him, obviously, but a bit processional for the rest of us.

No, it will be ‘a bit processional’ just for you, toots.

The seedings in women’s tennis offer a guide but not a promise. It is better that way, especially when Ons Jabeur, the No 6 seed,

Who?

has to summon the very best tennis of her career to defeat Aryna Sabalenka, the Amazonian and imperious No 2 seed.

Who? The very best tennis of her career couldn’t beat the No. 150 men’s seed.

The debate of women playing fewer sets will not disappear.

Not if they’re getting the same cash it won’t, no.

it is not unreasonable to assume all matches at every level will be contested over three sets by the end of this decade.

Yes it is unreasonable to assume that.

The two hours and 19 minutes that Jabeur and Sabalenka were on court was just about the perfect length. Any longer and our nerves would have frayed.

No attention span. No surprise. ‘Oh stop making the tennis longer, we girls will freak out’. Not much of an ad you’re putting together here, darling.

It is time to acknowledge that the hottest tickets increasingly involve the women

This is the most accurate statement in the entire piece. It should have come with a qualifier, though:

‘As long as both chicks are hot.’

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 14, 2023 9:05 pm

So much – too much – is made of Djokovic’s long walk towards history, that he could equal Margaret Court’s record of 24 grand-slam singles titles.

So Margaret Court is no longer persona non grata. Or in other words she’s a bit higher on the totem poll than is the Djoker, according to Alyson.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 14, 2023 9:26 pm

From the Oz. I’ve posted the whole article.

Higgins office rape ‘cover-up’ conspiracy debunked

In the Brittany Higgins saga, a sensational lie took hold early on, suggesting morally bankrupt and criminal behaviour at the most senior levels of politics. Now we know what the cleaner found.
By janet albrechtsen
From Inquirer
July 14, 2023
11 minute read

There is a maxim that the first lie wins. None more so in the Brittany Higgins saga. At the centre of this long-running drama, amid the twists and turns, a sensational lie took hold early on.

Just as deadly bushfires can ignite when a tiny cigarette butt is thrown into dry grass, the political cover-up claims in the Higgins story were fuelled by an explosive spark: an anonymous lie that the office of then defence industry minister Linda Reynolds was “steam cleaned” to remove evidence after the alleged rape of Higgins by Bruce Lehrmann on March 23, 2019

The steam-cleaning allegation suggested morally bankrupt and criminal behaviour at the most senior levels of Australian politics. It turned an allegation of rape into a political scandal the likes of which the country had never seen before.

The claim was a lie. But it would stick, even after numerous investigations proved it was entirely false. Even today, many still believe a ministerial office was steam cleaned to cover up an alleged rape.

Labor pursued the political cover-up claim relentlessly in the lead-up to the federal election last year. Being in government hasn’t tempered it. As recently as a month ago, Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek repeated the story during an interview on the Seven Network’s Sunrise, saying: “The central point here is that a young woman made an allegation that she had been sexually assaulted in her workplace and that it had been inappropriately investigated, even covered up by her employers.”
The lie spreads

Many journalists became unquestioning accomplices in prosecuting the cover-up conspiracy. Eventually, this myth reappeared in the ACT Supreme Court when ACT Director of Public Prosecutions Shane Drumgold suggested to the jury during the trial of Lehrmann that Reynolds was motivated by “political forces” to conceal Higgins’s sexual assault allegation and to interfere in the investigation of that allegation.

Only after questioning by counsel assisting, Erin Longbottom KC, during the Sofronoff inquiry in May did Drumgold recant his extraordinary claim. On May 11, this exchange took place between Drumgold and inquiry chairman Walter Sofronoff KC:

Sofronoff: “So I take it that sitting here now, having had available to you material that you haven’t seen before, you would acknowledge that your suspicions about the existence of political interference to prevent the case properly going ahead were mistaken?”

Drumgold: “I do accept that.”

As this tawdry tale will soon, mercifully, draw to a close, it’s time to put to bed this deliberately emotive claim of a steam-cleaned office by revealing how the myth started, why it is phony and why it hung around, enabling people – ill-informed or brimming with wicked intent – to repeat it.

Here is how the lie started and soon spread. An anonymous letter received by senator Kimberley Kitching on March 6, 2020, alleged that at about 5am, following the alleged rape of a young female staff member, a senior bureaucrat in the Department of Parliamentary Services put in motion a request “to clean the Ministerial Suite where the incident (potential crime) occur­red”.

“The cleaning company came immediately and completely cleaned the site, removing any and all potential evidence,” the anonymous letter stated.

The DPS oversees everything from library and research services to security services and building and grounds services at Parliament House. Within political and departmental circles, it was widely suspected that the anonymous allegations against a senior DPS bureaucrat came from a former employee of the same department who, along with a few others, left their roles in the DPS after a cultural review that found serious misconduct.

The name of that senior bureaucrat targeted in the anonymous letter is irrelevant. Far too many decent and highly professional people have been damaged by this saga through no fault of their own.

Inquirer will use “Jane Smith” as a pseudonym for this senior bureaucrat. The anonymous letter included further allegations against Jane Smith, including that she encouraged Higgins to shower before she got dressed and was then helped to leave the scene, that the AFP was not called and neither was an ambulance, even though the female was found “unescorted, nude and in obvious distress”.

The letter said Jane Smith “instructed staff … to amend the reports to show a less significant event and remove key statements” and hindered police attempts to obtain CCTV footage.

This anonymous letter was distributed to many press gallery journalists in the days after the interview on Network Ten’s The Project on February 15, 2021, where Higgins claimed she had been raped in Reynolds’s office. An exclusive story by Samantha Maiden for news.com.au that morning mentioned being “contacted by a whistleblower who claimed the office was ‘steam cleaned’ on the day of the incident”.

Was this the same whistleblower who wrote to Kitching or a different one? Such was the febrile atmosphere, there was no shortage of disgruntled former employees managed out of their role due to misconduct. But there was no steam clean. The office was given a quick clean at the direction of the Department of Finance because DPS staff suspected some kind of social gathering in the minister’s office in the early hours of March 23, 2019.
The Thom report

A simple exercise of looking for evidence, and following the facts, reveals the full extent of the “steam clean” lie. Start with the investigation by Vivienne Thom, the highly regarded former inspector-general of intelligence and security, in late 2020 into the claims made in the anonymous letter. Inquirer has seen the full 27-page Thom report that has never been made public, including attachments and transcripts of interviews by Thom that preceded her written report.

Thom found no evidence to support any of the allegations in the anonymous letter.

Jane Smith did not arrive at Parliament House until after Higgins departed, making claims she told Higgins to shower preposterous. Jane Smith did not request any cleaning of the ministerial suite. That was done by a Department of Finance official after being told by DPS staff that two young staff members entered the minister’s office in the early hours of March 23, 2019, with Higgins sleeping on a couch there overnight.

Thom found that Parliamentary Security Staff officers, who fall under the DPS structure, had checked on Higgins twice, at 4.15am and again at 9.15am. Higgins assured the “white shirts” – as they are called within Parliament House – that she was OK. From there, department staff assumed that some kind of party might have taken place.

Thom found “there was no reason to suspect that an assault or other criminal offence had taken place. I observe that the circumstances of the incident would not have led a reasonable person to conclude that there might be a reason to preserve the state of the suite. The decision to clean the suite does not seem to be unreasonable or improper in the circumstances.” All of the anonymous allegations against Jane Smith were rejected by Thom.

Labor senator Penny Wong has admitted that she was personally briefed about the findings of the Thom investigation in late 2020, before Higgins went public with her rape allegation. This begs the question of whether Wong knew the allegation of Reynolds’s office being cleaned to cover up a potential crime was false.

But still the conspiracy theory was hard to kill off. The “steam clean” phrase would appear in many media articles with no evidence. The Twittersphere, so untethered from reality, became a natural breeding ground for such a conspiracy.

Inquirer understands the first mention of “steam clean” appears in a diary note made by Australian Federal Police deputy commissioner of national security Leanne Close, recording a conversation she had with AFP assistant commissioner Lesa Gale. The note is dated April 3, 2019 – 11 months before the 2020 anonymous letter was sent to Kitching. Close records in the diary note that Gale told her that “staff in the office have had the lounge steam cleaned”. Who fed that to Gale is not recorded. The note was filled with other inaccuracies.

But this single reference to steam clean, untested at the time and later proven to be wrong, appears to be the genesis of what would become a full-blown conspiracy myth of a political cover-up.
What the cleaner found

The AFP would later find during its own review that no one had any reason to suspect a potential sexual assault had occurred in Reynolds’s office. Late-night drinks were not uncommon in parliamentary offices. Special cleans were ordered to ensure that an MP, let alone a minister, would not arrive to the leftover mess and dregs of an office party.

Except there was no mess in Reynolds’s office on March 23, 2019. The office was so clean that Carlos Ramos, the cleaner brought in to clean the office, called his boss that afternoon to check he was in the right office. His boss at the contract cleaning company then called a DPS staff member to check: “I just want to confirm with you, it’s M123 Senator Reynolds’ suite?” she says in audio evidence that formed part of the police brief of evidence. “It’s just that the room’s not exactly what we were expecting, so I want to make sure we’re in the right room.”

Ramos was in the right room.

Had a police investigation into the rape allegation proceeded in 2019, and Ramos been questioned back then, the steam-clean claim would have been quickly revealed as false. But Higgins chose not to proceed with the investigation until after The Project interview and Maiden’s news report.

The “steam clean” conspiracy would live on, sitting side-by-side with Higgins’s claim that there was an attempt to cover up the rape allega­tion. The phony story of a deep clean spread by “whistleblowers” in 2020 continued after the Senate estimates inquiry into the DPS that exposed the toxic environment within the department.

On June 18, 2021, Rob Stefanic, secretary of the DPS since 2015, put on the public record that there was a small cohort within the DFS responsible for misconduct “proven to be dishonest, disrespectful, bullying, threatening, and even unlawful”. “This cohort dishonestly recast themselves as victims and whistleblowers,” Stefanic told Senate estimates. Insiders understood that Stefanic’s reference alluded to the false claims made in the May 2020 letter to Kitching and the “steam clean” claims made by another suspected disgruntled employee and reported by Maiden when she broke the story of Higgins’s allegation.

Finally, on October 11 last year, it took less than 11 minutes to drive the final nail in the coffin of this bogus claim. At 2.58pm Ramos was sworn in as a witness in the ACT Supreme Court.

The Colombian-born cleaner, whose first language is Spanish, gave evidence on one of those days after Higgins failed to return to the witness box due to mental health issues. With Higgins’s cross-examination incomplete, ACT Chief Justice Lucy McCallum suppressed the media from reporting any of these witnesses and their evidence until Higgins resumed her cross-examination. When the suppression order was lifted, there was a logjam of material for the media to report. Ramos’s evidence about finding a very clean ministerial suite was largely ignored.
‘A routine clean’

Ramos gave evidence that his boss had called him to do a two to three-hour clean-up after what she called a “party” in the minister’s office. Ramos told the court he rang his supervisor from Reynolds’s office to say, “This look in my opinion normal cleaning.” He was there for 30 minutes. Asked by Drumgold if he cleaned the sofa where Higgins would later claim she was raped, Ramos said he used the normal product for cleaning leather.

Drumgold: “You put a chemical on a cloth and you wiped it (the couch) over?”

Ramos: “Yes, yes.”

During cross-examination, Ramos told defence barrister Kat­rina Musgrove: “It was totally just routine clean.”

Did he need to clean the minister’s bathroom where Higgins claimed she had vomited?

“Not really … like the bathroom wasn’t used recently.”

Ramos said he checked the bathroom, there were no odours, the towels had not been used, and neither the toilet bowl nor any part of the toilet seat needed cleaning.

Musgrove: “And the toilet seat underneath didn’t need to be cleaned?”

Ramos: “No.”

Ramos explained that because the offices were often empty when parliament was not sitting, cleaners were instructed to flush an unused toilet “because if you don’t flush and you don’t clean this is getting certain rust. So anyway, I did (flush) despite it wasn’t dirty,” he told the court.

The Higgins saga today is very different to what first appeared. The steam clean is one of many other claims that would prove to be entirely false but was stubbornly repeated by many people.

Some basic curiosity and objective journalism would have gone a long way to disproving many of the conspiracy claims that have damaged many innocent people.

To this day, it appears on the Walkey Foundation website, under Maiden’s name: “Parliament office ‘steam cleaned’ after alleged attack.” Perhaps it is time for some in the media to clean up their house.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 14, 2023 9:35 pm

So Margaret Court is no longer persona non grata.

What?

Haven’t you heard?

Even ‘Jan 6’ is no longer an insurrection, but a spirited disagreement over tea and cucumber sandwiches.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 14, 2023 9:57 pm

The only political interference was to make sure the claim went ahead. Pure scum, but we knew that already. I wish them a long miserable death. A short one swinging from lampposts will do as well. Even though Special Ed was there he seems to have seen things that never happened.

Cassie of Sydney
July 14, 2023 9:58 pm

Janet Albrechtsen should get a Walkley, she won’t though. This whole saga goes from bad to worse.

What’s nice with the above piece is that she’s taken a swipe at that mediocrity named Samantha Maiden.

As I wrote earlier, I want to see the screws turned on Knickerless and Shazza.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 14, 2023 10:05 pm

I think I now understand why Mizzzz Knickerless has taken employment outside Australia.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 14, 2023 10:14 pm

I’m punishing the single malt, I know, but a lot of ex – serviceman, unable to work as a result of service related injuries, and fighting D.V.A, wouldn’t mind a cheque for three million quid.

MatrixTransform
July 14, 2023 10:25 pm

Fremantle.

if you go you gotta try the food at Sailing for Oranges

first class. cant say enough good things

absolutely outstanding

… get in the mood … Tango Santa Maria – Gotan Project

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
July 14, 2023 10:29 pm

Janet A gets good info on the Knickerless saga.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 14, 2023 10:30 pm

My wordy lordy, this is a decent game of footy on the picture wireless at present.

Rabz
July 14, 2023 10:30 pm

That’s an economically unfeasible pile of commie crap

Pauline on Albansleazey and the greenfilth’s new socialist community housing bill*.

*Which the greenfilth are currently blocking because it isn’t absurdly unfeasible and commie crappish enough …

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 14, 2023 10:30 pm

Fremantle.

if you go you gotta try the food at Sailing for Oranges

Thanks for that one – next time Mme Zulu and I are in Freo, we’ll give it a try.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 14, 2023 10:39 pm

As I wrote earlier, I want to see the screws turned on Knickerless and Shazza.

If there is ever a Liberal Government, in this country, ever again, a Royal Commission into the whole issue of Knickerless and Shazza would provide a certain amount of raucous amusement.

Rabz
July 14, 2023 10:39 pm

Eco-yaktivists in Germany used a concrete and epoxy resin mixture to glue their hands to the asphalt in protest. Tragically, the consequences may require potential amputation of their hands

JC – that has made my week. Thanks, Squire.

MatrixTransform
July 14, 2023 10:49 pm

Thanks for that one

20 years ago in Sydney on George St I had a Spanish meatball dish at a ramshackle kitchen attached to a pub.
and a bunch of fat nonnas cooking

the garlic paprika explosion I experienced that day was something I’ve talked about for many years but never again experienced
…until tonight

go for the prawns

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 14, 2023 11:00 pm

Jeez. Lisa Marie Presley died from the same condition I had during lockdown, when I was collapsing with pain in my side and no GP would lay hands on me to diagnose it. Nor would they believe me when I said I’d had it before and needed antibiotics. I felt too sick to wait hours in emergency. I was fading away and Hairy rang my nice gynae and she said she would examine me. Straight on the antibiotics and lotsa xrays and scans. Mine is due to a burst appendix in childhood and lots of adhesions. My specialist gastroenterologist we consulted via the gynae has given me a letter saying believe this woman. Give her da drugs. Immediately. I take it with me, and the medications, when I travel. Poor Lisa Marie, to die so young and of this. That’s the problem with it, you can’t get it readily diagnosed and treated. The pain can be intense but it can lessen to just an ongoing niggle. Neither is a good sign.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 14, 2023 11:00 pm

Albondigas. MT

P
P
July 14, 2023 11:03 pm

God Will Take Care of You

During the last 70yrs this hymn sustained me through many times over many years.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 14, 2023 11:05 pm

It tends to recur. I had it again in March, stopped me from going to Posy Parker’s Let Women Speak rally.

Indolent
Indolent
July 14, 2023 11:06 pm
Indolent
Indolent
July 14, 2023 11:07 pm
feelthebern
feelthebern
July 14, 2023 11:08 pm

Geeez, Janet shows just how lazy the corporate media is.
And complicit.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
July 14, 2023 11:10 pm

Considering it is Bastille Day and displaying my abundant wealth and snobbishment, I dined tonight on a plate of lamb chops accompanied by a bottle of French Cab Sav Merlot.

I usually stick with known Aussie brand plonk, but the occasion and label on this bottle intrigued me: Arrogant Frog.

Rabz
July 14, 2023 11:12 pm

John Kerry refuses to call China’s Xi Jinping a ‘dictator’

Shortly after refusing to call the carpet bagging sweaty rat faced olive drab tracksuit clad Z-Man one.

Nothing if not consistent. For when you’re selling wars, door to door.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 14, 2023 11:13 pm

Hairy watching the women’s soccer for the first time tonight. He managed half an hour before giving up. They have no ball skills, he says, though he thinks that’s remediable with the right training. I disagree. We move in different ways, I say. Look – they run like women, I observe, noticing how funny they look too when they fall over at odd angles.
Even I can see it’s not much of a game compared to the way men play it.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 14, 2023 11:15 pm

Time for bed. Hot water bottle. I am not a pensioner but I still like my hottie bottle. Good for any little niggles and aches that arise in the aging frame due to over-enthusiastic dance classes. This thread is going to ‘pass away’ soon. Nite, now.

MatrixTransform
July 14, 2023 11:16 pm

Albondigas

yep … that’s the stuff

and rest up old fella.

you post or pre op ?

Rabz
July 14, 2023 11:18 pm

Considering it is Bastille Day

Sacre bleu!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 14, 2023 11:24 pm

Post

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
July 14, 2023 11:29 pm

Non, non, Rabz!
Ici Brigitte Bardot.

MatrixTransform
July 14, 2023 11:30 pm

Post

well, yr still typing

it’s a good sign

Rabz
July 14, 2023 11:30 pm
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 14, 2023 11:30 pm

Just enough anaesthetic to make me just sleep coz they want to know if the procedure relieves pain straight away. It does. We’ll see how it goes. The duks were excited as a schoolboy discovering a hole in his pocket.

JC
JC
July 14, 2023 11:48 pm

Ranga

Best of luck dude.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
July 15, 2023 12:00 pm

Janet Albrechtsen certainly deserves an award. But the chances of her getting a Walkley/Wokely/Wankley are less than zero.

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