Open Thread – Weekend 28 Aug 2021


Massacre of the Innocents, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, c. 1565-67

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JMH
JMH
August 31, 2021 7:30 am

Tom, thanks for the ‘toons.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 31, 2021 7:35 am

NSW woman dies of/with/in spite of covid (the Tele):

Mrs Isaako, 30, collapsed dead at her home in Emerton, in Sydney’s west, on Monday August 23 in front of her husband Sako and three young children.

The Daily Telegraph understands that Mrs Isaako’s terrified husband called triple-0 begging paramedics to rush to their home on Monday, telling them his wife was not breathing and that he was also “very sick”.

In the statement issued by the family, it was revealed Mrs Isaako died of pneumonia.

“Results from the coroner declared Ianeta’s cause of death was pneumonia,” the statement reads.

They’re looking to sue the NSW government.

“We have been made aware of false information rapidly circulating the internet and media outlets.”

“We will be looking at taking legal action against those who have contributed to false details of Ianeta, Isaako and their children.”

Excellent.

Cassie of Sydney
August 31, 2021 7:44 am

Gladys, you can fuck right off.”

Agree.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 31, 2021 7:51 am

Mr Dragger at 6:36.
Thanks for the list of ‘roid abuse side effects.
Some would seem to apply to the person in question, although I haven’t done a physical examination.
It’s not that sort of friendship or association.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 31, 2021 7:56 am

Interesting problem, interesting solution.

Catalytic converter thefts reduced by 57 percent, new tech being rolled out to MOT garages (30 Aug)

Thefts peaked in March 2021, with 3,245 recorded in the UK that month, but have steadily declined since, with 1,378 recorded in July. A surge in the price of precious metals saw theft of catalytic converters become a national issue earlier this year, and police across the UK joined forces to combat the trend.

The new technology from SmartWater has heavily influenced the drop in thefts.

Unlike the etching of serial numbers, which can be clearly seen by the criminals and removed easily by simply scrapping with a screwdriver, SmartWater is invisible to the naked eye, but glows yellow under UV light.

With the vehicle on the ramp, a special SmartWater high temperature product is applied with a brush and the unique formula reference number is logged on the database against the vehicle registration number.

So in an average year in the UK tens of thousands of people are having their catalytic converters cut out and stolen. Wow. The idea of painting on an identifier is very elegant, although I don’t know what the stuff is. Microdots? The cat converter operates at an elevated temperature so whatever it is it is quite tough.

Unfortunately there’s answers to such things, like smashing the converter into bug dust and extracting the PGMs. Although that usually requires sodium cyanide. It’d be fun if a bunch of crooks now start to die of accidental cyanide poisoning.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 31, 2021 7:58 am

Of course Gladys is being needled from the other side, with the likes of Broelman making it look like she has to rein Covid in further. I would not be surprised if she takes that as a significantly held opinion. And, of course, the political leaders first response to unhappy headlines is to ‘do’ something, even when they would be wiser to do nothing.

She would have no idea what ordinary people think or feel except through surveys and reports. She would not have any direct contact with hoi polloi because there are too many and very likely she feels they would be too parochial in their demands anyway.

She is Plato’s prisoner in a cave, and her staffers and sycophants are making whatever shadows they choose on the wall with their hands.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 31, 2021 8:03 am

“Results from the coroner declared Ianeta’s cause of death was pneumonia,” the statement reads.

The ivermectin/doxycycline/zinc therapy is designed exactly for this issue. The doxy knocks out the opportunist pnuemococci.

So by preventing use of ivermectin therapy these people are dying because they can’t get the antibiotic easily, which they could’ve had if allowed to purchase the script before time.

Way to go Gladys, the deaths are on your conscience lady, if you have one.

Roger
Roger
August 31, 2021 8:03 am

The Paywallian reporting a survey that indicates that Australians are more concerned about their jobs and mental health than about another outbreak of covid.

It would appear the jig is up.

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 31, 2021 8:12 am

BoN, they are politicians. ” Conscience” is parked at the door before seeking office or shortly thereafter.

Cassie of Sydney
August 31, 2021 8:15 am

I can’t access it in the Oz but it seems that the review by Chris Masters into the ABC’s Meldrum-Hanna piece of the Luna Park Fire, aired earlier this year, has found that the programme “misled” viewers because it failed to substantiate any claims that Neville Wran was corrupt.

Mavis Bramston, in the Oz today, writes that their ABC must apologise for the “dodgy ghost train doco” and Bramston further writes that “their ABC believes it is OK to rubbish somebody’s reputation with claims that are not backed up by testimony or evidence.

Effing hell…..I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry when I read that headline. So nice to see Mavis suddenly speak up for “testimony and evidence”….worth noting that Mavis remained silent about the need for testimony and evidence when the absurd rambling Porter allegations were given an airing by their ABC earlier this year nor do I recall Mavis also insisting on such due process with the Pell allegations…but when the target is one of his own…that being an ALP politician and someone who’s long dead I might add……all hell breaks loose and an independent inquiry is undertaken. I don’t recall an independent inquiry into the disgraceful Pell lynching….or did I miss something? So it seems airing an allegation against a long dead and very corrupt ex-premier of NSW (Wran’s corruption was always well known here in NSW…however that doesn’t necessarily tie him to Luna Park…although I strongly believe Abe Saffron was involved in the fire) will warrant an independent inquiry because certain ALP hacks like Bramston and Bob the snake Carr are offended but the travesty of their ABC’s years long assassination of George Pell warrants no independent inquiry.

Gosh, talk about inquiries for me but not for thee.

Ah well, there’s nothing like the stench of hypocrisy to start the day…especially when it involves the left and their ABC.

John H.
John H.
August 31, 2021 8:17 am
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 31, 2021 8:20 am

I thought exactly that Cassie.
And Mavis Bramston has been like a dog with a bone on this one.
I reckon he has written 5-6 articles on it.
But, yes, late to the ABC bias party.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 31, 2021 8:26 am

From the “Australian” -I haven’t posted the whole article

ABC’s Luna Park fire documentary ‘misled’ viewers on Neville Wran: Chris Masters and Rod Tiffen

Troy Bramston
Senior Writer
@TroyBramston
An hour ago August 31, 2021
357 Comments

An independent review co-­written by one of the ABC’s most respected former investigative journalists has found the broadcaster failed to substantiate any claims that Neville Wran was corrupt in its $2m Luna Park ghost train fire documentary, describing it as having “overreached” and “misleading” viewers.

The review found the broader allegations of political corruption raised by the documentary, ­Exposed: The Ghost Train Fire, reported by Caro Meldrum-Hanna and Patrick Begley, to be “vague, anonymous and unhelpful” and not corroborated by documentary evidence or multiple testimony.

The ABC had, until Monday evening, refused to release the review written by former Four Corners investigative reporter Chris Masters and Sydney University professor Rod Tiffen, instead issuing a statement that pre-­empted the report and claimed it contained a “critical opinion” about only “one aspect” of the program.

Masters and Professor Tiffen in fact found that the documentary misled viewers who may have thought that allegations were conclusions, and said “the absence of rebuttal content left the reviewers with a strong impression the program concluded Wran was complicit”. The review found that none of the Wran corruption claims stacked up.

The documentary linked Wran to Sydney’s notorious criminal underworld figure Abe Saffron and claimed the two were “really pally” and had Friday night drinks together. The review found “no solid evidence” of Wran having a social relationship with Saffron nor any credible evidence of a “direct relationship between Saffron and Wran” at all.

It was further alleged that following the tragic ghost train fire, which claimed the lives of six children and one father, Wran orchestrated to have the Luna Park lease go to a Saffron front company. The review found “no evidence” that Wran improperly interfered with the tender process for Luna Park, which was run by senior public servants.

The basis for this corruption claim was that Wran was mentioned on illegal police wiretaps – the so-called “Age Tapes” – about the Luna Park lease but the review did not find “any evidence of Neville Wran’s communications being directly intercepted” or any mention of Luna Park and Wran on the tapes.

Masters and Professor Tiffen concluded: “At various points … we are told corruption went all the way up the scale to politicians, that senior ministers were corrupt, that transcripts were destroyed because of corruption, and that corruption went all the way to the top. But we never penetrate any further.”

The documentary has been savaged by former premiers Bob Carr and Barrie Unsworth, who served as ministers in the Wran government. Former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull, a later business partner of Wran, testified to the former premier’s integrity. He said there was no evidence that Wran acted ­corruptly while premier.

Former ABC chairman and managing director David Hill, who worked on Wran’s staff, said the documentary breached editorial policies and labelled it “sloppy journalism”. Milton Cockburn, a former adviser to Wran and editor of The Sydney Morning Herald, blasted the documentary in a formal complaint that was dismissed by the ABC.

miltonf
miltonf
August 31, 2021 8:27 am

Is savva still vomiting up poison and bile in the oz?

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 31, 2021 8:28 am

Cassie, the hack through the Australian paywall is working fine for me.

miltonf
miltonf
August 31, 2021 8:30 am

You used to type the first few line of the article into google and then the whole thing would come up. I don’t think that works anymore.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 31, 2021 8:31 am

Is savva still vomiting up poison and bile in the oz?

She resigned in a huff because Credlin was given a column.
Now works for the Phage and the Silly, as you might expect.

132andBush
132andBush
August 31, 2021 8:33 am

Allegedly and apparently and it is said by some, roid-enhanced bulkage is accompanied by:
1. Mood swings;
2. Sleep pattern disorders;
3. Acne;
4. Bitch tits;
5. Baldness; and, finally
6. The condition known as ‘sultana nuts’.

7. Random Capitals

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 31, 2021 8:34 am

The point really isn’t about the Bramstom article per se.
It is the fact that he has suddenly discovered ABC bias because it relates to Nifty Nev.
He has written half a dozen articles on it, but not once does he reference other glaring examples of ABC bias, because Conservatives.

miltonf
miltonf
August 31, 2021 8:34 am

Thanks Bruce. Too bad for the shareholders of that miserable organization. Directors at ‘nine’ don’t seem to be big on maximizing shareholder value.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 31, 2021 8:36 am

Really 132andBush?
Random capitalisation is an indicator of steroid abuse?
I did not know that.
I will be on the lookout for it.

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 31, 2021 8:39 am

CCP virus cases explode in Vietnam AFTER vaccination begins.

Alex Berenson:

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/insanity-in-vietnam

Cassie of Sydney
August 31, 2021 8:42 am

Apparently, if you object to prostitution and sex trafficking, you’re now smeared as “whorephobic”.

Also, as Brendan O’Neill wrote last week…..calling prostitution “sex work” demeans both work and sex.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 31, 2021 8:43 am

GoTTa Go.
Off To tHE GYm.

Cassie of Sydney
August 31, 2021 8:45 am

“The point really isn’t about the Bramstom article per se.
It is the fact that he has suddenly discovered ABC bias because it relates to Nifty Nev.
He has written half a dozen articles on it, but not once does he reference other glaring examples of ABC bias, because Conservatives.”

Exactly…and that’s the point in my comment above. Mavis hasn’t written half a dozen pieces about Pell or Porter or Laming. Perhaps somebody at the Oz could tap him on the shoulder and suggest that he write one piece about the injustices done by their ABC to Porter or Pell. If Mavis did that I’d find his confected outrage about Nifty Nev more credible.

Cassie of Sydney
August 31, 2021 8:46 am

Oh well…I’m definitely “whorephobic”.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 31, 2021 8:53 am

insanity-in-vietnam

Yes.

Kamala Harris Poses In Front Of Communist Ho Chi Minh Bust – “The WORST Photo Op For An American In That Country Since Jane Fonda Donned A Helmet There In 1972.” (28 Aug, via Surber)

The only reason I can think that Kamala can be in Vietnam is because everyone in the administration, including Kamala, want her as far away from DC as they can get. And even with that they couldn’t prevent her from stuffing up.

miltonf
miltonf
August 31, 2021 8:53 am

So if I’m reading this right, the old thief or those pulling his strings just upped and left

Abandoning thousands of Americans behind enemy lines, the Biden administration turned the Kabul airport into Fort Apache surrounded by the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and other Jihadis.

Roger
Roger
August 31, 2021 8:56 am

BoN, they are politicians. ” Conscience” is parked at the door before seeking office or shortly thereafter.

Which is what makes politics a very suitable career if you’re a sociopath or a narcissist.

Of our PMs over the last 40 years I’d suggest only two or three were psychologically normal people.

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 31, 2021 8:59 am

US truckers also planning to protest against vaccine passports on 31/09 (or 09/31). The only headline I have seen was one from Britain showing huge crowds and the headline “This is what the BBC is not reporting”.

Wow. It’s almost like there is a worldwide media conspiracy simply to NOT report anything that goes against the COVID narrative. In fact, you can expect to see reports saying the exact opposite. Stuff like “Trucker Protests Fizzle”.

Oh wait…..

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2021/08/30/anti-vaccine-truckies-protest/

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
August 31, 2021 9:00 am

Roger says:
August 31, 2021 at 8:56 am
Of our PMs over the last 40 years I’d suggest only two or three were psychologically normal people.

Don’t keep us guessing Roger – who are these 2 or 3??

miltonf
miltonf
August 31, 2021 9:01 am

Which is what makes politics a very suitable career if you’re a sociopath or a narcissist.

Of our PMs over the last 40 years I’d suggest only two or three were psychologically normal people.

Yes I’ve come to that conclusion too. I would add grifter to the list.

40 years- Fraser, Hawke, Keating, Howard, kRudd, TLS, Abbott, TRumble, Scummo. Can’t say I’m enamored with any of them.

miltonf
miltonf
August 31, 2021 9:04 am

I’ve changed my mind about Howard in the last 5 years or so- his closeness to Trumble, the RET, land clearing laws, mass migration.

miltonf
miltonf
August 31, 2021 9:04 am

Their odious ‘free trade agreements’.

miltonf
miltonf
August 31, 2021 9:04 am

The ICC.

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 31, 2021 9:05 am

I’m not on FB, so if any Cats have any “real news”, please do share.

Zatara
Zatara
August 31, 2021 9:07 am

The footage of the Taliban flying a Blackhawk with the chap dangling from the rope is pretty chilling.

It also indicates trained flight crews which means they were Afghan National Army pilots a month or so ago.

Roger
Roger
August 31, 2021 9:10 am

Don’t keep us guessing Roger – who are these 2 or 3??

Let me preface this by saying just because a couple were normal doesn’t mean they were necessarily good PMs.

Howard & Abbott are psychologically normal people (Howard was a terrible PM, while Abbott was good in parts).

Gillard had major character flaws (and I found her insufferable, to the point of not being able to watch her on TV) but I don’t think they weren’t linked to sociopathy or narcissism.

John H.
John H.
August 31, 2021 9:10 am

Rogersays:
August 31, 2021 at 8:56 am
BoN, they are politicians. ” Conscience” is parked at the door before seeking office or shortly thereafter.

They should have been CEOs …

George III Chancellor, Baron Thurlow :

“How can you expect a corporation to have a conscience, when it has no soul to be damned and no body to be kicked?”

miltonf
miltonf
August 31, 2021 9:15 am

Gillard? The one who threatened to ‘injure’ certain businesses that displeased her?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 31, 2021 9:15 am

Just watching Fox.
US Secretary Of State on …… Antony Biden? Joe Blinken?
Explaining how well they fucked Afghanistan and US Forces.
Even the flag on his left, American Eagle, is giving the brown eye and pissing itself laughing.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 31, 2021 9:19 am

Some little intern has already got a new job and given a FU on the way out.
Well done kid!

Tom
Tom
August 31, 2021 9:24 am

GoTTa Go.
Off To tHE GYm

Thanks, Sanchez. Laughed out loud.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 31, 2021 9:31 am

The point really isn’t about the Bramstom article per se.
It is the fact that he has suddenly discovered ABC bias because it relates to Nifty Nev.

His objection was that it was the wrong bias.

As has been noted, his j’istic feathers were completely unruffled when it is a Liberal or a Catholic in the crosshairs.

Especially considering Wran’s corruption which is so well attested as to be near proverbial. Defending him on one the instance he can, whereas in the case of the other targets of the ABC there were no other instances – smears made from whole cloth that were unravelled on their first contact with legal requirement for evidence. (I am not including Victorian courts as part of any legal process.)

lotocoti
lotocoti
August 31, 2021 9:35 am

It also indicates trained flight crews which means they were Afghan National Army pilots a month or so ago.

I wouldn’t discount “tourists” who happened to be passing through that gaping fistula, Pakistan.

Zipster
Zipster
August 31, 2021 9:35 am
Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 31, 2021 9:39 am

In Full Control news:

The Queensland Government’s controversial ban on hotel quarantine is under scrutiny today after allowing a charter flight full of NRL family and friends to land in Brisbane.

Earlier, the green light had been given to Indian and Australian women’s cricket teams to enter the state and go into hotel quarantine.

Luckily senior executive, Annastacia Palaszczuk, is able to explain:

“I didn’t grant the exemptions, the Chief Health Officer granted the exemptions,” she said.

So, it’s a public health initiative.

They don’t care, because it doesn’t matter.

Roger
Roger
August 31, 2021 9:43 am

* don’t think they were linked

That should have been.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 31, 2021 9:46 am

So the new variant is more contagious. Is it more virulent?

If the whole country caught a mild cold there would be no need for a lockdown.

Well, you wouldn’t think so. But…

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 31, 2021 10:00 am

“I didn’t grant the exemptions, the Chief Health Officer granted the exemptions,” she said.

Who gave the CHO the authority? Who is meant to take action if the CHO flubs it.

I begin to think Palacechook hates Queenslanders. Living in a state that celebrates itself as a sun-drenched playground for the young, healthy, and lissom.

When she stands in front of the mirrors she has set up side by side to get the full image, in a dimly lit room that offers her some refuge from the more egregious transgressions of her physical form, coupled with peevish and petty ego, there must be a upswell of hate and bile.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 31, 2021 10:02 am

Fraser, Hawke, Keating, Howard, kRudd, TLS, Abbott, TRumble, Scummo.

What a depressing list.

Crossie
Crossie
August 31, 2021 10:06 am

She would have no idea what ordinary people think or feel except through surveys and reports. She would not have any direct contact with hoi polloi because there are too many and very likely she feels they would be too parochial in their demands anyway.

She is Plato’s prisoner in a cave, and her staffers and sycophants are making whatever shadows they choose on the wall with their hands.

****************

If Gladys wants to know what the people think she should just have a look at the emails being sent to Tanya Davies. I’m sure Tanya will be happy to forward her the 30,000 emails she received in the last month alone. But Tanya and her voters are irrelevant to the smart set in Macquarie Street.

Gladys and Talidan overwhelmingly prove the saying that those who want to govern should not be allowed anywhere near the levers of power. That goes double for SloMo who is all about how it looks and not what it is.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 31, 2021 10:10 am

The ABC are a bunch of sneaky fuckers.
So in your defence documents, you add as much defamatory, unprovable information as possible.
Then other media organisations report it.
Then the ABC reports it.
Such an abuse of the freedom of the press.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 31, 2021 10:11 am

From the Oz.
They are calling this Freedom Weekend.

Restaurant and Catering Australia was one of several industry groups asked by the NSW government to draft reopening proposals for delivery by Monday. ClubsNSW confirmed it had also made a submission, which called for a staggered reopening of its ­venues and an immediate return of outdoor trade.

The R&CA road map would trial the reopening of venues from October 1 with capacity limits of no more than 100 patrons indoors and a 2sqm rule without a cap for patrons outdoors. Masks would be mandatory for staff and consumers, and check-ins mandatory for QR purposes and vaccination status.

That’s freedom?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 31, 2021 10:14 am

If the whole country caught a mild cold there would be no need for a lockdown.
Well, you wouldn’t think so. But…

The same people think CO2 is destroying the planet.
I came across this saying by Voltaire earlier:

“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 31, 2021 10:19 am

Gladys : Come on NSW, let’s get this done.
Also, Stalin : Come on Ukraine, let’s get this done.

srr
srr
August 31, 2021 10:22 am

Thanks for this, it’s always good to have another mob to name when online propagandists try to mock away the fact of Govt Propaganda Units –

UK Govt Behavioural Insights Team – The Behavioural Insights Team – also known as the Nudge Unit – is now a social purpose company. It is partly owned by the Cabinet Office, employees and Nesta.

The Nudge Unit was established in the Cabinet Office in 2010 by David Cameron’s government to apply behavioural science to public policy. Now owned partly by the Cabinet Office, by Nesta and by employees, it has operations across the world.
From nilk’s cat –

Perfidious Albino — Today at 07:49
That NHS propaganda is all driven by the UK Govt Behavioural Insights Team, they have offices globally now including in Sydney and Wellington and connections with the Obama people. No doubt they have received many fat contracts from Australian Govts in the last couple of years. Just finished reading ‘A State of Fear’ by Laura Dodsworth which explores this approach behind the scenes in the UK to early 2021. Leveraging fear to obtain outcomes. (Great read BTW)

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 31, 2021 10:24 am

The ABC’s independence was meant to protect it from interference by the government of the day.

Independence was a gift to the ABC but for a specific reason. Impartiality is an obligation to us.

They now invoke their independence as entitling them to dispense with impartiality which is its raison d’etre.

Now it uses its independence to bully politicians into giving them money and favour.

It staggers the mind that the supposed ‘right’ wing in this country does not call out the threat. How small must those people be. Mangy whimpering curs that, despite having been repeatedly kicked and tortured, always limps obediently to its master as soon as their names are called even if only to be beaten. This broken state mistaken for loyalty.

People without pride can only offer submission. Never loyalty.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 31, 2021 10:24 am

The Mouth of Xi has a little gloat:

Support for Australian government crashes hard

According to the latest Newspoll, which was published on Sunday night, the opposition Labor Party now leads the governing coalition 54-46 percent on a two-party preferred basis.

Subtext: Golden Dawn for Australia government who properly understands Xi Thought, win-win philosophy, and 14 Point Correction Plan.
Not Abronese.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 31, 2021 10:25 am

His objection was that it was the wrong bias.

As has been noted, his j’istic feathers were completely unruffled when it is a Liberal or a Catholic in the crosshairs.

Exactly.
A good editor would have fired it back at him and told him to work in the Porter/Pell/Lamming angle before it gets published.
Because the real story is systemic evidence-free vendettas.
Nifty Nev was only targeted because he was on the pragmatic right of the party.

cohenite
August 31, 2021 10:26 am

Biden snapping about Afghanistan questions at the FEMA HQ stunt before storming off was embarrassing.

Embarrassing! FMD, biden before he became senile was a grub, corrupt, treasonous and a sexual predator; his first wife committed suicide by car because he was fucking dr jill; he used hunter as his front man after his other son died to deal with countries like ukraine, russia and the chunks, who own this bastard. Now he’s senile his dominant characteristics come out: stubborn, arrogant, as smart as a dog turd and sexually weird. But it’s not his fault; he was put where he is by the demorats; so biden should be the last one executed for crimes against the US.

cohenite
August 31, 2021 10:27 am
srr
srr
August 31, 2021 10:33 am

nilk — Today at 10:22

We have our own nudge units.

https://www.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2019-07/Applying-Behavioural-Inisghts-in-Victoria-An-Update.pdf

Yes. That’s why it gets me that anyone trusts those who try to mock it away with, “Conspiracy Nut!”.

The UK mobs work on making their NHS some sort of Holy Religion that MUST be Believed In & Worshipped, from the Olympics to Pot Banging During Lockdown “TO SAVE The NHS”, has always been particularly horrific to me, especially with how many people came out to SUPPORT their NOT ALLOWING PARENTS TO HAVE THEIR CHILDREN TREATED in other countries, that could save their lives, but using The LAW to give the children DEATH SENTANCES.

srr
srr
August 31, 2021 10:41 am

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
August 31, 2021 at 10:14 am

If the whole country caught a mild cold there would be no need for a lockdown.
Well, you wouldn’t think so. But…

The same people think CO2 is destroying the planet.
I came across this saying by Voltaire earlier:

“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”

Yes, again the absurdity of the ‘worship’ of the NHS has caused people around the world to accept the atrocity of DEATH PANELS that make it CRIMINAL for Parents to have their own children treated by those who could& would save their lives.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 31, 2021 10:42 am

To land of the free, we’re a weirdly authoritarian mob
ADAM CREIGHTON

“What the hell is wrong with your country?” I’m asked almost every day in the US of late. At dinner on Saturday night in New York three Democrat friends demanded I explain why police were shooting rubber bullets and pepper spray to enforce public health.

At my hotel a doorman, Danny, came up to me. “Man, I heard your accent yesterday and I just wanted to say, holy shit, the stuff I’m seeing in Australia I can’t believe,” he said, asking if police helicopters really had hovered over suburbs, barking masking orders over loudspeakers.

Australians are rapidly losing their reputation as tough, irreverent larrikins. The nation has gone viral for hunting down “Covid fugitives” (people with a positive test), building remote quarantine facilities, shooting dogs, denying babies treatment in the closest hospitals and preventing families from seeing dying loved ones.

Forget Mick Dundee and Steve Irwin; Kerry Chant and Daniel Andrews are the new, hectoring faces of modern, safety-obsessed Australia. “That’s not a mask, this is a mask,” Americans would expect to hear in 2021. We’re seen as weak, naive and hopelessly parochial, an image reinforced by Western Australia’s zero-Covid policy to divorce itself from the rest of the country.

Millions of people in the US have watched, stupefied, the normalisation of behaviour and attitudes that two years ago would have been seen as the hallmark of a cruel, authoritarian society.

Columnist Josh Barro, son of Harvard economist Robert Barro, called Australia dystopian.

“I’m surprised there isn’t more debate about whether what they’re doing is OK as opposed to a human rights infringement,” statistician Nate Silver replied. Indeed, our $25m a year Human Rights Commission has been missing in action on fundamental liberties for 17 months, perhaps engrossed in a forthcoming trans rights discussion paper.

“I’m not sure why Australia is an example of any sort of success that the US would want to emulate,” Silver told his 3.5 million Twitter followers.

Australia has become the butt of jokes on late-night TV, Andrews’ prohibition of drinking alcohol without a mask being a favourite. “There’s some crazy shit going on right now where the army is trying to keep people inside in Australia,” US comedian Joe Rogan, with 7.4 million Twitter followers, said this month.

The idea Australians and Americans are cultural brothers in arms has been shattered. Australians copied their old colonial masters on Covid, but more zealously. Americans, true to the legacy of the Declaration of Independence, have eschewed, even in liberal California, the police heavy-handedness that became the norm in Britain and Australia. State borders never shut.

“It’s because they took your guns away, isn’t it?” Danny said. “They would never get away with that shit here.” America’s gun problem makes it difficult to boss people around excessively.

Two weeks ago the US Department of Homeland Security issued a terror threat warning, not only because of the approaching September 11 anniversary but also because of “grievances over public health safety measures and perceived government restrictions”. “Extremists may seek to exploit … re-establishment of public health restrictions across the United States as a rationale to conduct attacks,” it said.

Every US state is flashing red on the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention’s Covid map, reflecting high transmission, defined as more than 100 cases per 100,000 people in the past seven days – a higher level than in NSW.

The health advice is no longer gospel. At least 40 US states have ignored the CDC’s demand for indoor mask mandates, supposedly necessary for such high levels of transmission. No state governor, not even House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, queen of liberal piety, would dare publicly link curtailing basic freedoms to compliance with arbitrary health advice.

Australians living in the US are shocked, too, regularly filling my inbox with tales of despair.

“My wife and I and eightmonth-old son have been here for 10-plus years and we’re reconsidering our pre-pandemic plan to move back due to concerns about Covid handling, the prospect of continued lockdowns and the overall desirability of Australia,” wrote Josh and his wife, directors at big four accounting firms in Los Angeles, understandably too fearful to reveal their full names.

“The Covid mania in Australia this year is unbelievable, particularly when viewed from abroad,” said Alex, an Australian businessman in Chicago. “No country ever prospered by being so cynical and risk averse. Hopefully sanity prevails one day so we can all see our families again.”

I struggled to explain to Danny why Australia’s response was so extreme: being a remote island fuelled a perception the virus could be eliminated, lockdowns did seem to work at first, individuals have few if any constitutional rights and Australia began as a subsidised government project, entrenching a widespread faith in bureaucracy. And in smaller nations Covid stories crowd out other news more easily, ensuring a steady diet of 24/7 fear porn.

In Iowa recently I searched in vain on local TV for a daily chief health officer update on Covid-19, let alone an intricate parsing of the cases into linked, in the community and overseas.

None of these explanations is adequate, though. Switzerland’s Covid restrictions paled in comparison with Australia’s, Japan never locked down and Alberta, Canada, with about the same population as Victoria, practically abolished all restrictions on July 1.

I walked off to a cafe after chatting with Danny, asking the manager why he hadn’t checked my vaccination status – a legal requirement in New York since August 16. “I asked the previous customer and he yelled and walked out so I couldn’t be stuffed asking you,” he said. In Australia everyone has to check in, I explained. He just laughed at me.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
August 31, 2021 10:45 am

So in an average year in the UK tens of thousands of people are having their catalytic converters cut out and stolen.

This happened to some friends who were holidaying in the UK a few years ago.
They drove to a market fair in the country somewhere and got directed to park in a large field nearby. Parking assistants, security guards, well organised rows of cars – the full 9 yards.
Came back at the end of the day and car wouldn’t start. Asked the security guards for help and they went straight to check the catalytic converter.
“”Ere’s yer problem luv. It’s been stolen. ‘Appens all the time.”

Motelier
Motelier
August 31, 2021 10:46 am

So. This is where everyone has migrated to.

cohenite
August 31, 2021 11:04 am

Biden and the swamp at work:

“The Opposite of Dunkirk” – Erik Prince: Biden Regime Is Telling Local Governments Not to Cooperate with Private Contractors Rescuing Americans in Afghanistan (VIDEO)

Revealed: Biden Turned Down Taliban Offer to Allow US to Control Kabul and the Airport

Secretary of State Blinken Claims US Never Gave Taliban Kill List – Then Admits US Gave Names of American Citizens to Taliban (VIDEO)

Developing: Military Brass at Kabul Airport Is Refusing to Let American Women and Children Inside Gate

Conservative Purge Continues: Chase Bank Tells Gen. Michael Flynn They Are Closing His Accounts and Cancelling His Credit Cards; Claim Continuing to Allow the Decorated Veteran Access to His Accounts “Creates Reputational Risk”

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 31, 2021 11:09 am

The idea Australians and Americans are cultural brothers in arms has been shattered.

This is really quite dangerous stuff. The anglosphere is based on the idea of a common shared language and culture, and that is going to be important in future geopolitics. If the mass of the American populace is being conditioned by disgraceful events here to see us as ruled by, and accepting of, authoritarian fascist behaviour, then the impulse to assist us in need is being subtly diminished. Would we even be seen as worth saving? The American Alliance is vital to Australia’s future, and anything that works to undermine that is doing us no good at all. ScoMo should bring to heel the worst offenders who sic the police on to citizens merely going about their business and exercising their natural rights to freedom of opinion. Or is it that he is simply a fellow traveller, locked in by belief in his Special (undemocratic) Cabinet and happy to see the Constitution trashed?

rosie
rosie
August 31, 2021 11:09 am

My final response to Michael O’Brien’s office, asking what can we do now.

Hi Sam I think the focus now should be a pledge to get Victoria back to normal as soon as possible. A commitment that there will be no backsliding into government imposed restrictions of any kind and an absolute emphasis on personal responsibility. It should be clear that worldwide covid will now be an endemic disease hopefully seasonal illness that people can limit the damage of by getting vaccinated along with their annual flu shot, that it is a disease our hospitals are designed to cope with and it will no longer prevent people living normal lives and being able to plan their futures, work and run businesses without having the lockdown sword of Damocles hanging over their heads. I can’t emphasis enough the damage that living in a police state has done to the people of Victoria. If some people want to continue to wear masks social distance etc let them but never again should government power be wielded in the way it has been by the Andrews government. People will have to accept covid deaths as they do flu stroke cancer and heart attack. Now gird your loins and make that commitment.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 31, 2021 11:13 am

To land of the free, we’re a weirdly authoritarian mob
ADAM CREIGHTON

Poor old Gladys will probably assume that what the Americans find so amazing is that we are not storming the medicals centres to get the jab – for our love of freedom.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 31, 2021 11:13 am

Penny Wong States Labor Rejects Trump’s Idea Of Patriotism Over Globalism

Wong admits she isn’t an Australian patriot eh?
Very revealing.
Why should we entrust government to a party who won’t stand up for our country?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 31, 2021 11:13 am

They Are Closing His Accounts and Cancelling His Credit Cards; Claim Continuing to Allow the Decorated Veteran Access to His Accounts “Creates Reputational Risk”

They forget that up to 50% (or more) of the population voted Conservative in the US Election. The only ‘reputational risk’ being created is the usual ‘go woke, go broke’, if people express their displeasure by withdrawing their accounts. One can only hope that they do this.

Arky
August 31, 2021 11:17 am

rosiesays:
August 31, 2021 at 11:09 am

..
Fantastic comment.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 31, 2021 11:18 am

If some people want to continue to wear masks social distance etc let them but never again should government power be wielded in the way it has been by the Andrews government. People will have to accept covid deaths as they do flu stroke cancer and heart attack. Now gird your loins and make that commitment.

There absolutely must be a Royal Commission into the useage of the ‘National Cabinet’ which effectively has neutered the Commonwealth of its powers. A clear set of Constitional guidelines must be developed to prevent this happening again. Some people need to start reflecting on their ‘reputational damage’ and some of them would be wise to head for the hills to escape justice.

Arky
August 31, 2021 11:22 am

“If countries close themselves off, turn inward and disengage from the world, the risks of misunderstanding, tension, rivalry and conflict rise. So instead of talking about globalism versus patriotism, let’s talk about co-operation. Let’s talk of working together to gain collective benefits. This is good for each of us, and good for all. It’s a contribution Australia has historically made. And it’s one we must continue to make.”

..
Wong, your version of “co-operation” leads to the very, very richest people in the world colluding to impoverish and enslave the rest of us. Done on a global scale it leaves no escape from your tyranny.
Just do your actual job of listening to and representing Australians.

Old bloke
Old bloke
August 31, 2021 11:22 am

According to the latest Newspoll, which was published on Sunday night, the opposition Labor Party now leads the governing coalition 54-46 percent on a two-party preferred basis.

It looks like Scotty from marketing is going to have his Zac Kirkup moment in May next year. I will not mourn his departure.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 31, 2021 11:24 am

They forget that up to 50% (or more) of the population voted Conservative in the US Election. The only ‘reputational risk’ being created is the usual ‘go woke, go broke’

Yeah, I suspect half of America will now be incandescently furious with JPMorgan Chase. And by and large those people have a lot of money. Nice “reputational” faceplant, Chase guys, girls and yxes.

Chase Bank Cancels General Mike Flynn’s Credit Cards (30 Aug)

rosie
rosie
August 31, 2021 11:29 am

You know Lizzie I thought about ‘royal commission’ but it’s not my number one issue.

The Victorian liberal party asked me for feedback, I shot back a laundry list, I then got a what right now? request.
I mulled overnight and while I really just wanted them to support the ldp covid plan thought that would get zero traction.
I think hospital treatment for covid had improved dramatically in the last 18 months. Government has to make dedicated covid wards a long term feature of our health system, as should preventative measures be. But that has to be in a context of people being able to live their lives.
The end.

Cassie of Sydney
August 31, 2021 11:32 am

John Ruddick will be the Lib Dem senate candidate here in NSW….good….far better to concentrate on the senate rather than running for Warringah.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 31, 2021 11:40 am

Let see….

Checks inbox…

Not one reply beyond “we received this” auto message to my emails to multiple pollies, State and federal with responsibility for either legal or health matters.
Thats about 10 different reps.

Just a short note from a health professional (Paramedic)

The actions of the various state and Federal governments appear to be at serious risk of voiding a key plank of medical ethics.

https://www.safetyandquality.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-09/sq20-030_-_fact_sheet_-_informed_consent_-_nsqhs-8.9a.pdf

Consent depends on the informed decision by a patient to undertake a medical procedure free from undue influence.

By crossing the line from testing & restricting individuals for health reasons to doing so to “encourage” uptake of vaccines I believe there is a serious case to be made that individuals are not consenting in a legal way.

By effectively punishing individuals by restricting their movement or ability to hold a job based on them undergoing a medical procedure there can be no question consent is no longer free from undue influence.

I would sincerely ask this question is raised with your relevant legal and medical ethics advisors.
If you could forward any reply relating to the legal or ethical issues it would be appreciated.

The ability to make personal decisions related to medical interventions free from undue influence is a well established tenet in the health system and in law.
Violations of this have been viewed extremely dimly by courts in the past.

Thanks for your time

These must be unimportant issues unworthy of consideration by our smooth brained overlords.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 31, 2021 11:51 am

Penny Wong States Labor Rejects Trump’s Idea Of Patriotism Over Globalism

Nations have cultures and histories, and their people a sense of belonging. In those countries the great unwashed individually have tiny voices, but collectively can decide which governments to throw out.

The globe has none of these. If a global government was formed it would have none of these. A clean slate for authoritarians.

Look at what the EU did to Europe.

That Wong Chap wants a globalist government to exercise her totalitarian spirit. Her star in Labor, such as it was, is now in decline and Australia has failed her. But she sees another way.

And you can be sure, like any socialist, that she thinks her natural place will be at the top.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 31, 2021 11:53 am

I think hospital treatment for covid had improved dramatically in the last 18 months. Government has to make dedicated covid wards a long term feature of our health system, as should preventative measures be.

A good suggestion. Improved Covid treatment in hospitals has dramatically reduced the death rate.
Also, there are also new pharmaceuticals (using ‘proven’ anti-virals including Ivermectin types) in the pipeline to treat Covid in its early stages, at home. Covid wards could be needed still, and these could be placed in only a few selected hospitals to avoid cross-infection. If demand declines, they could be repurposed as isolation wards for many other things, including a proper quarantine system, if the wards were built with separate isolation rooms, filtered aircon and open balconies.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 31, 2021 11:55 am

The globe has none of these. If a global government was formed it would have none of these. A clean slate for authoritarians.

Look at what the EU did to Europe.

A very telling point, for which the EU is the object lesson.

Zipster
Zipster
August 31, 2021 11:55 am

I was at the doctor’s surgery this morning waiting as one does. I never really noticed before what percentage of over 60s are obese. Why are doctors not giving these people some proper health advise, rather than prescribing reams of medicines with side effect that require more medicines to correct.

If death from this chicom virus is correlated with obesity, no wonder this group is coping the brunt.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 31, 2021 11:56 am

Arkysays:

August 31, 2021 at 11:17 am

rosiesays:
August 31, 2021 at 11:09 am

..
Fantastic comment.

Yes.
Except for the bit about Michael O’Brien “girding his loins”.
Nobody wants to see that.

Chris
Chris
August 31, 2021 12:01 pm

Morning all.
I am worried. My normal obsessions are overtaken by greater events.
What should I do now for my indignation fix? I feel so irrelevant. As irrelevant as a conservative voter to Malcolm Trumble’s unstoppable prime ministership.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 31, 2021 12:04 pm

Greasy dissembling prick Dictator Dan telling Victorians that there are thousands of AZ appointments available and we should take them up.
He says 2,500,000 have had the AZ jab and nobody could say his government has said anything negative about AZ.

Andrews was vaccinated with Pfizer.

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
August 31, 2021 12:10 pm
Shy Ted
Shy Ted
August 31, 2021 12:13 pm
Zipster
Zipster
August 31, 2021 12:16 pm

Penny Wong States Labor Rejects Trump’s Idea Of Patriotism Over Globalism socialism

truth in advertising!

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
August 31, 2021 12:16 pm

Oh my lord. In my circle of friends one of the chaps out fwd that the Penny Wong chap would make a good PM. I was busy fighting on climate and Covid scam ground to go back and spear the stupid.

miltonf
miltonf
August 31, 2021 12:17 pm

Wong just said out loud what most of the political class are secretly (or not so secretly) on board with.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 31, 2021 12:17 pm

Amazing what you can read in the science news. Firstly I see there is an entire industry based on cleaning up meth labs in houses(!) Secondly I see that that whole industry is unsustainable, unregulated and naughty(!!)

Gaps in meth lab clean-ups (30 Aug)
by Flinders University

An Australian study of companies which test and clean up contamination and chemicals left by illegal methamphetamine labs has raised concerns about inconsistent standards, guidelines and operating procedures when making dwellings safe for future use.

The meth testing and decontamination industry has grown rapidly in Australia and New Zealand in response to awareness about this growing public health problem, putting pressure on clean-up companies to set best practice standards within the guidelines, say experts at Flinders University.

“The guidelines are very broad, so business owners must establish and interpret what techniques and chemicals are most effective,” says Flinders University researcher Emma Kuhn, Ph.D. candidate and lead author in a new paper in the International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health.

“Currently the methamphetamine testing and remediation industry has no standardized methods, nor any regulatory organization to enforce the Australian Government Guidelines, so further reform is required,” Ms Kuhn says.

“You wouldn’t get an unregulated tradie in to do your wiring or connect a gas heater so why would you allow an unregulated person to come into your home and spray chemicals around without a clear idea of what they are doing and what effect these chemicals could have on them and the occupants of the home,” asks analytical and forensic chemist and fellow co-author Associate Professor Walker.

Wow, everyone in South Australia must be spaced out all day if they need an entire industry of meth cleaners. I wonder how many grow-houses there are in Adelaide?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 31, 2021 12:26 pm

Bruce of Newcastle

So a bunch of experts who dont actually do the cleaning are **steeples fingers*** deeply concerned they havent been invited to write a set of standards to govern this area.

If this ” Professor” hasnt personally carried out the cleaning of meth houses herself she should be set on fire and left to run through the uni corridors screaming ” I literally know nothing” until she expires.

miltonf
miltonf
August 31, 2021 12:28 pm

Yes the bitter fruits of the Murray report from all those decades ago.

min
min
August 31, 2021 12:28 pm

Granddaughter 3 left to study for Masters degree in NY last week and arrived safely to experience the wild wreathed in the States . The building where her flat is , shared with 3 others , was flooded and now uninhabitable .

Roger
Roger
August 31, 2021 12:29 pm

The US is in global recession under a senile and corrupt President.

The Europeans are seriously talking about strategic independence.

China is forging ahead with Belt and Road.

We are faced with civilisational choices while Penny Wong remains stuck in the 1980s when her worldview was formed.

She’s not even a second rater.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 31, 2021 12:31 pm

Auditions to replace Charlie Watts up and running.

The Stones should recruit the White Stripes drum lady.
She has a seriously large set of drums.
I suspect she’d make a fine Stone.

miltonf
miltonf
August 31, 2021 12:32 pm

True Roger but she draws a taxpayer salary plus perks (including private plate car iirc) and people in SA vote for her. Grostesque.

calli
calli
August 31, 2021 12:37 pm

Latest from Gulag Gladys:

There is no reason why anybody over a certain age should not have got the vaccine.

Yes there is. Some Christians have an ethical issue with AZ. Others are worried about “rare” side effects.

I’ve had the AstraZeneca. I’m 50 years old. I’ve had the AstraZeneca.

Big deal. Perhaps that’s the reason your brain is turning to dust even as your mouth moves.

Nobody of a certain age should have any hesitancy with the AstraZeneca.

See point 1.

And it’s really important to know that when we open up, those that are unvaccinated won’t be allowed to to other things because they will be exposed.

I don’t care. Since when did you become my keeper? In what universe do I have to seek your permission to go to the shops?

That is why at 70% double dose freedoms will extend to people that are fully vaccinated.

And the unvaccinated can stay home because reasons. Right.

We cannot afford to have the unvaccinated exposed to venues and we can’t afford to have the unvaccinated susceptible to disease, to get disease.

Please close all bottle shops, tobacconists, brothels and cancel Mardi Gras. We can’t have people exposed to disease. And while you’re at it, shut down all the highways and byways and all sport because danger. Oh. That’s right. You did.

This woman is completely crazed. I will never vote Liberal again. And if Labor is rubbing their hands at the prospect of my vote, forget about it. I’d rather draw something rude on the ballot paper.

Roger
Roger
August 31, 2021 12:37 pm

True Roger but she draws a taxpayer salary plus perks (including private plate car iirc) and people in SA vote for her. Grostesque.

Sums up most of our parliamentarians, milton.

Second raters. Andrew Hastie might be an exception.

Oh, and I forgot to mention above that Brexit has made the Commonwealth potentially relevant again.

Zipster
Zipster
August 31, 2021 12:40 pm

These must be unimportant issues unworthy of consideration by our smooth brained overlords.

I sent some concerns to our local member before the plandemic, no response. so much for representative government.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 31, 2021 12:41 pm

Mole – I’ve cleaned a lot of lab glassware in my time, from many such organic and inorganic chemicals. I used detergent and hot water mainly. In a sink. It takes quite a bit of innovative padding to expand “soap and water” into a whole PhD thesis though.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 31, 2021 12:44 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:

August 31, 2021 at 12:17 pm

Amazing what you can read in the science news. Firstly I see there is an entire industry based on cleaning up meth labs in houses(!)

The biggest problem buying a former cook house isn’t residual chemicals.
It is strung out meth-heads or standover men turning up at 3 a.m.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 31, 2021 12:44 pm

Scott Baio & Richard Marx having a fight on twitter.
That’s what 2021 is all about.

Gab
Gab
August 31, 2021 12:45 pm

”Mole – I’ve cleaned a lot of lab glassware in my time, from many such organic and inorganic chemicals

Me too! Burettes were the worst! And thank heavens for disposable pipettes.

Roger
Roger
August 31, 2021 12:50 pm

This may not help your blood pressure, calli, but it’s a good summery about how we got here.

And for good measure, here’s a quote from Richard M. Weaver I came across the other day:

The past shows unvaryingly that when a people’s freedom disappears, it goes not with a bang, but in silence amid the comfort of being cared for.

Diogenes
Diogenes
August 31, 2021 12:56 pm

Why are doctors not giving these people some proper health advise, rather than prescribing reams of medicines with

Are you going to the one holding a gun to their head to make them take said advice?

srr
srr
August 31, 2021 12:56 pm

Biden introduces “his boy” Senior Advisor and Director of Public Engagement, Cedric Richmond. Things go downhill from there:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/08/30/joe-biden-introduces-america-to-woke-fema-and-his-boy-in-charge-of-hurricane-ida-recovery-efforts/

srr
srr
August 31, 2021 1:00 pm

Biden introduces “his boy” Senior Advisor and Director of Public Engagement, Cedric Richmond. Things go downhill from there:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/08/30/joe-biden-introduces-america-to-woke-fema-and-his-boy-in-charge-of-hurricane-ida-recovery-efforts/

As usual, The British Do It Better –

In the Loop — White House Scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT-7RgLWvf4

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 31, 2021 1:06 pm

NSW police have fined a 56 year old prostitute for breaching public health order.
One of 3 sex workers in Rydalmere pinged.

All jokes about the brothel being a super spreader even should cease.

duncanm
duncanm
August 31, 2021 1:07 pm

Rogersays:
August 31, 2021 at 12:50 pm

Roger, that’s a great quote, but I think is worth putting in its entirety.

The past shows unvaryingly that when a people’s freedom disappears, it goes not with a bang, but in silence amid the comfort of being cared for. That is the dire peril in the present trend toward statism. If freedom is not found accompanied by a willingness to resist, and to reject favors, rather than to give up what is intangible but precarious, it will not long be found at all.
—Richard Weaver, 1962

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 31, 2021 1:08 pm

Bugger.
Event.
Not even.
Bombed my own gag.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 31, 2021 1:14 pm

Are you going to the one holding a gun to their head to make them take said advice?

Exactly Diogenes.
I will bet the GP has told them about risk factors for whatever ails them.
Mine does, but he doesn’t badger me. He assumes I am an adult and, if I ignore his advice, it is on me.
I was thinking about this last night.
We had a Zoom with a couple of people I used to work with.
Nice people but one couple got into tut-tutting about the risks of being unvaxxed.
Next minute they were saying how they had porked up (and I mean really porked up from an already XXXXL base) during the lockDans.
Helloooo!
You would probably be at less risk being unvaxxed and getting your BMI into the green zone, than being a vaxxed fatso.
Yes, m0nster, I am looking at you.

Old bloke
Old bloke
August 31, 2021 1:17 pm

Roger says:
August 31, 2021 at 12:37 pm

Sums up most of our parliamentarians, milton.

Second raters. Andrew Hastie might be an exception.

Not in my experience Roger, I live in his electorate. I’ve had some correspondence with him in the past, his “replies” have all been requests for funds for his re-election campaigns, absolutely no response to whatever issue I’ve raised.

He’s not worth a vote, Craig Kelly is the only bloke in Parliament worth voting for.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 31, 2021 1:18 pm

We cannot afford to have the unvaccinated exposed to venues and we can’t afford to have the unvaccinated susceptible to disease, to get disease.

Who the hell does this woman think she is?

She is not even pretending that it is to stop ‘selfish’ people endangering others. Now it is the state deciding what risks we should take with our own selves.

I must say her arguments about there ‘being no reason’ and ‘I have had’ particularly insulting: Is she saying that hers is the highest intellect and that nothing that does not occur to her can be valid, and further saying that if she has done something then we can all take lessons from it.

She reached the top of a pile of mediocrities. She does not do a very good job. The only benefit NSW gets from her is that she does interferes (in other avenues) less than other Premiers. Her absence is her virtue.

And it ought to be unimaginable to her to create two classes of NSW people, and that she is entitled to effectively force people to do something that she cannot do legally.

I am glad that for all the good stuff she might have been remembered for (mostly around transport) she will instead be remembered as a despot who has made herself a laughing stock on the international stage.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 31, 2021 1:19 pm

Desperate and dateless, Morrison currently addressing the Nation:

There isn’t a common Covid position across the country.

[…]

But the place we’re heading to is the same. We may all be starting from a different point and that place is bringing us all together again. Connecting us again as Australians and to connect Australia to the world. That is the objective of the national plan. So with wherever we’re starting, the destination is what we share.

Deeply deluded man.
Whistling bravely as he hurries past the political graveyard.

Crossie
Crossie
August 31, 2021 1:26 pm

Wong admits she isn’t an Australian patriot eh?
Very revealing.
Why should we entrust government to a party who won’t stand up for our country?

****************

We did, ScoMo’s the same.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 31, 2021 1:27 pm

It takes quite a bit of innovative padding to expand “soap and water” into a whole PhD thesis though.

I believe that is precisely what PhD thesis writing has become – lots of padding to take a trite point and make it look like the Principia Mathematica (which buried among its other achievements are hundreds of pages dedicated to proving that 1+1=2)*.

*Let me state at once this is not a suggestion that the Principia was pretentious twaddle, it was in fact supremely comprehensive. This would be why it is still cited, while most PhD theses just sit molding on a shelf until buried by more pointless theses.

Crossie
Crossie
August 31, 2021 1:28 pm

I sent some concerns to our local member before the plandemic, no response. so much for representative government.

***************

My sister also emailed her federal member and didn’t even get an automated acknowledgement in reply. She said that woman is never getting her vote again.

duncanm
duncanm
August 31, 2021 1:28 pm

Roger.. thanks for the tips on Weaver.

Has prompted me to read this – https://newcriterion.com/issues/2006/9/the-consequences-of-richard-weaver – and just now purchase his book “Ideas have consequences”.

An interesting dude.

btw, that above link points out the obvious (to others more read in these matters). We’ve been in a period of Alexis de Tocqueville’s “Soft Despotism” for quite some time.

srr
srr
August 31, 2021 1:30 pm

When the debate at the old cat was raging over the two boys the NHS KILLED rather than release them to hospitals overseas for treatment the NHS didn’t offer, pointing out the slippery slope of DEATH PANELS deciding who may & may not live, across the board, was violently attacked by the Pro-NHS Mob.

The Mob that FEATURES one STILL CAMPAIGNING AGAINST NOW LEGAL, AGAIN, Ivermectin.

How does anyone ever trust Pro-Death Panellists?
Have they already been terrorised into publicly supporting Death Panellists?

Bruce in WA
August 31, 2021 1:30 pm

Interesting poll results at newsdotcomdotau:

Results
Does Victoria need zero cases to end lockdown?

Yes, otherwise we will continue doing the same thing — 27%
No, we need to learn to live with the virus — 73%

35,892 Voters

duncanm
duncanm
August 31, 2021 1:31 pm

Crikey.. so many eye openings in that article.

Weaver is particularly harsh on what he regards as the tepid ambitions of the middle class: “loving comfort, risking little, terrified by the thought of change, its aim is to establish a materialistic civilization which will banish threats to its complacency.”

Crossie
Crossie
August 31, 2021 1:34 pm

I am glad that for all the good stuff she might have been remembered for (mostly around transport) she will instead be remembered as a despot who has made herself a laughing stock on the international stage.

****************

We must reward her hard work on our behalf with as much mockery as we can get out there though the rest of the world is beating us to it.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
August 31, 2021 1:35 pm

I like the talk about “electoral oblivion” etc for Scummo.

What’s the bet that next year, due to COVID QWERTY, the elections are done on-line – after all, it worked for the recent Census ok…. and I would imagine all our current trash would get re-elected with increased majorities.

Crossie
Crossie
August 31, 2021 1:39 pm

Dr Faustus says:
August 31, 2021 at 1:19 pm
Desperate and dateless, Morrison currently addressing the Nation:

**************

Nobody is listening, he has nothing to say that would release us from our bondage so he can get knotted.

You know what is called for? Boney M song “By the Rivers of Babylon” with some lyrics changes.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 31, 2021 1:40 pm

Does Victoria need zero cases to end lockdown?

Interesting perspective on that from Professor Sutton:

Asked if his advice to the government would be that zero cases was still achievable in Victoria, Professor Sutton said the state would continue to pursue an “aggressive suppression strategy”.

Victoria would do its “utmost to keep those numbers down … to get to zero if you possibly can. But not with some absurd hope if numbers continue to increase despite everything that you’re doing.”

If pressed, I think that means: “We’re going to crack on with LockDans and Elimination – just with no hope.”

#insafehands

Baba
Baba
August 31, 2021 2:02 pm

Professor Sutton said the state would continue to pursue an “aggressive suppression strategy”.
*********
They certainly have form. Ask the iCook bloke.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 31, 2021 2:02 pm

Someone has done the sums for Scummo and pointed out that – if 80% is the vaccination target to needed fetch Sneakers back into Australia – he’ll need to introduce the 12 to 15 cohort into the Jabbing.

Remember there’s 1.2 million children aged 12 to 15 and they start with bookings from 13 September so this will greatly assist…

Boldly going where the Poms are vacillating.
I’m a proud AstraZenica man, but it wouldn’t include my kids.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 31, 2021 2:06 pm

The Libs continue to think that their “the other mob are worse” shtick is an election platform.
They are a pack of fucking retards.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 31, 2021 2:07 pm

Victoria would do its “utmost to keep those numbers down … to get to zero if you possibly can. But not with some absurd hope if numbers continue to increase despite everything that you’re doing.”

It took years and a lot of effort to get rid of smallpox.

Does Sutton think he will do it with Covid if he just stomps on people enough.

And remember, in a few years, there will be another bug. Just like every few years in the past.

Arky
August 31, 2021 2:18 pm

They are a pack of fucking retards.

..
Be more kind to fucking retards than to compare them to Morrison etc.
Did that guy look at how the press stitched Trump up and think to himself “I’ll have me some of that. I know, a national cabinet to bully me into doing a bunch of stuff that’s an electoral nightmare. Give me all the responsibility but no control. After all, when voters come after someone for the utter destruction wrought, my heads on the chopping block first, come on, kill me motherlovers”?

Arky
August 31, 2021 2:19 pm

Meanwhile, Dan Andrews is looking at voters and going: “I’m not locked in here with you. You’re locked in here with me”.

duncanm
duncanm
August 31, 2021 2:21 pm

They certainly have form. Ask the iCook bloke.

so #sluggate is continuing.. a council inspector has admitted the slug was planted !
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23sluggate

Where are the criminal charges?

Tom
Tom
August 31, 2021 2:27 pm

Inside the Talidan nighmare: for the first time in two years of lockdowns, I can no longer put my car through the local automatic Apco carwash because it is “closed due to Covid restrictions”.

What the fucking fuck is that about? It takes five minutes, during which time I sit inside the sealed car in contact with no-one.

This mad Staliism is now being designed purely to humiliate the proletariat. I bet no-one inside the Spring Street ruling class is forbidden from washing their cars.

srr
srr
August 31, 2021 2:28 pm

“mortuary’s filled beyond capacity”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsBFLEapzfw
Aug 31, 2021
Tony Heller

“Early in life I have noticed that no event is ever correctly reported in a newspaper” – George Orwell

duncanm
duncanm
August 31, 2021 2:30 pm

Arkysays:
August 31, 2021 at 2:19 pm
Meanwhile, Dan Andrews is looking at voters and going: “I’m not locked in here with you. You’re locked in here with me”.

nice reference.. but Rorschach, unlike Dan, had morals.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Are you going to the one holding a gun to their head to make them take said advice?

Someone has to, it’s for their own good. It’s unhealthy for them to be so old & fat.
If a few have to be shot, or fined out of their retirement savings, then so be it, the govt. knows what’s best for all.

Indolent
Indolent
August 31, 2021 2:46 pm

That goes double for SloMo who is all about how it looks and not what it is.

No, I firmly believe he is orchestrating this.

Lysander
Lysander
August 31, 2021 2:47 pm

Toby Greene, 3 weeks… what an absolute grub.

Was complaining about a “f–king dive” to ump when later on, he faked a concussion as the clock ticked from 30 seconds to 0 before jumping up and celebrating on the siren…

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
August 31, 2021 2:47 pm

That goes double for SloMo who is all about how it looks and not what it is.

No, I firmly believe he is orchestrating this.

SloMo is Mick Trumble’s pick…..

cohenite
August 31, 2021 2:50 pm

Craig Kelly is the only bloke in Parliament worth voting for.

Canavan
Christensen
Rennick
Roberts
Our Pauline
Chandler

I’m struggling

Woolfe
Woolfe
August 31, 2021 2:52 pm

Hey Motelier you’ll be distraught to know that in a discussion with Arkysaurus yesterday JC flounced.

(Disclaimer, i like reading JC’s stuff on finance etc)

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 31, 2021 3:04 pm

More on the Western Sydney brothel.

Employees and clients at a western Sydney brothel have been fined $12,500 after the business continued to operate during the citywide lockdown.

Officers were called to a brothel on Monday night at Rydalmere after a call was made to Crime Stoppers about a possible breach.

Police said they spoke with the 57-year-old female owner before finding three female employees, aged 31, 36 and 56, inside.

Two male clients, aged 56 and 57, were also inside the premises, and none were wearing masks, according to police.

Police said they all denied that the business was operating, with one man claiming that he was providing a quote for paint works. The other said he was visiting his girlfriend.

Best excuse since “waiting for a mate”.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 31, 2021 3:05 pm

& top ‘o the page.
To be sure, to be sure.

JC
JC
August 31, 2021 3:11 pm

Brucie

Bruce of Newcastle says:
August 31, 2021 at 11:24 am

They forget that up to 50% (or more) of the population voted Conservative in the US Election. The only ‘reputational risk’ being created is the usual ‘go woke, go broke’

Yeah, I suspect half of America will now be incandescently furious with JPMorgan Chase. And by and large those people have a lot of money. Nice “reputational” faceplant, Chase guys, girls and yxes.

Brucie, it’s just a hunch and nothing else. I smell a half dead rat in this story. I think it’s not true and fake news. Has Flynn come out himself and said this was the case?

Woolfe
Woolfe
August 31, 2021 3:18 pm

Look at this from Aussie Cossack. Disgusting harassment from Fascist Cops.

Bruce in WA
August 31, 2021 3:26 pm

Inside the Talidan nighmare: for the first time in two years of lockdowns, I can no longer put my car through the local automatic Apco carwash because it is “closed due to Covid restrictions”.

While we’re not in lockdown — yet — my local carwash now wants you to scan yourself in as you go through the auto wash.

Yeah, sure I will …

Old bloke
Old bloke
August 31, 2021 3:27 pm

cohenite says:
August 31, 2021 at 2:50 pm

Canavan
Christensen
Rennick
Roberts
Our Pauline
Chandler

I’m struggling

I should have said, the only member in the Reps. Christensen won’t be standing next election, and all the others are Senators. I would only vote for those candidates who have criticised government policy WRT anti-viral treatments, apart from Roberts, I’d boot the rest.

duncanm
duncanm
August 31, 2021 3:30 pm

Woolfesays:
August 31, 2021 at 3:18 pm
Look at this from Aussie Cossack. Disgusting harassment from Fascist Cops.

he’s the right wing terrorists they’ve been looking for!

Disgusting (and surely illegal) use of a firearms prohibition order so they can randomly stop and search

Cassie of Sydney
August 31, 2021 3:31 pm

“cohenitesays:
August 31, 2021 at 2:50 pm”

You did forget one…he’s quite impressive…

Senator Alex Antic from South Australia.

Cassie of Sydney
August 31, 2021 3:32 pm

Oh and Nicolle Flint..but she’s going. And Eric Abetz is still okay.

duncanm
duncanm
August 31, 2021 3:34 pm

Jaysus… check this out: https://www.armstronglegal.com.au/criminal-law/nsw/police-powers-2/firearm-prohibition-order/

Firstly.

A police officer of any rank and NSW Firearms Registry staff can nominate a subject for an FPO, which is made by the Commissioner of New South Wales Police.

There is no set criteria for the making of an FPO but those made subject to an order are often people with a significant criminal history, links to organised crime or psychiatric illness. An FPO does not have an expiry date.

then..

Police Powers
Under the Act, a police officer can:
* detain a person subject to an FPO; or
* enter any premises occupied or controlled or managed by the person; or
* stop and detain any vehicle, boat or plane occupied or controlled or managed by the person;

Woolfe
Woolfe
August 31, 2021 3:42 pm

Our politicians have been asleep at the beach or else complicit in allowing all these powers eh duncanm

cohenite
August 31, 2021 3:42 pm

You want social distancing. This is Taliban social distancing.

That guy is hanging by his neck; makes a change from just chucking the poor bastards out I guess.

Nothing will change until the left in the US, here and elsewhere in the West are subject to the consequences of their policies (whims, ego brain-farts) as other people are. Only then do the left do something about them and only because they are affected.

Indolent
Indolent
August 31, 2021 3:44 pm

Hi Sam I think the focus now should be a pledge to get Victoria back to normal as soon as possible. A commitment that there will be no backsliding into government imposed restrictions of any kind and an absolute emphasis on personal responsibility. It should be clear that worldwide covid will now be an endemic disease hopefully seasonal illness that people can limit the damage of by getting vaccinated along with their annual flu shot, that it is a disease our hospitals are designed to cope with and it will no longer prevent people living normal lives and being able to plan their futures, work and run businesses without having the lockdown sword of Damocles hanging over their heads. I can’t emphasis enough the damage that living in a police state has done to the people of Victoria. If some people want to continue to wear masks social distance etc let them but never again should government power be wielded in the way it has been by the Andrews government. People will have to accept covid deaths as they do flu stroke cancer and heart attack. Now gird your loins and make that commitment.

All is forgiven.

duncanm
duncanm
August 31, 2021 3:45 pm

Woolfesays:
August 31, 2021 at 3:42 pm
Our politicians have been asleep at the beach or else complicit in allowing all these powers

the latter. No doubt they were slipped in under some flimsy pretence like sorting out the bikie gangs.

JC
JC
August 31, 2021 3:53 pm

I don’t that much about Military equipment. Would the hardware the US left behind require heavy-duty maintenance or is the stuff like a new Beamer..Bring it in for the the first service at 25,000K? Anyone know like if a military chopper is maintenance intense?

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 31, 2021 3:55 pm

“Mr. Trudeau’s Liberal government said on Aug. 13 that it would ban people from boarding any plane, train or cruise ship in Canada unless they were fully vaccinated,” the Journal reported. “The government is also compelling 300,000 federal employees to get shots, as well as employees of airlines and railways.”

Let’s hope Australian politicians are taking note. Re-election and polling is the only thing that seems to “fire them into action”.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/30/poll-canadas-trudeau-losing-ground-ahead-september-election/

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 31, 2021 3:59 pm

JC, I’d be much more worried about them flogging it off to the Iranians, Russians and Chinese.

It’s a veritable goldmine of technological know-how if you have the expertise to pull it apart and see how it all works.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
August 31, 2021 4:02 pm

Well I didn’t know that.
Bitcoin, which Mr Yew describes as a “digital commodity”, had huge growth potential even though only 21 million Bitcoin tokens will ever be created. “It is still only a $600bn market as opposed to gold which is $10 trillion,” he said.
Yew is a 27-y-o fund manager attempting to build it to $10 billion.

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 31, 2021 4:03 pm

Fuck spending decades and billions of dollars on R&D.

Just copy it and improve on it.

JC
JC
August 31, 2021 4:03 pm

Arma

Departure was planned during Trump’s term. Surely there was a strategy to conceal the shit they were leaving behind, no? Conceal in the sense of ensuring important secret technology wasn’t going to fall in the wrong hands. They aren’t stupid.

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 31, 2021 4:05 pm

They aren’t stupid.

The evidence so far seems to indicate they are mind boggling stupid.

srr
srr
August 31, 2021 4:07 pm

Thanks for this, it’s always good to have another mob to name when online propagandists try to mock away the fact of Govt Propaganda Units –
https://newcatallaxy.blog/2021/08/28/open-thread-weekend-28-aug-2021/comment-page-7/#comment-7223
___________________________________________________
From Nilk’s Cat – “Perfidious Albino — Today at 14:46

Interesting. The VIC Nudge team did a project for Brett Sutton on improving take up of the HPV vaccine – essentially getting schools to share student names and parent contact info so they can be ‘nudged’. Also notes that the Vic unit works closely with the UK team (presumably the one based in Sydney) and a behavioural unit at Monash uni.”
_________________________________

My daughter rang me from Uni when they first started pushing the HPV, especially to those young adults who were residents, immersed in the Pro-HPV propaganda & away from their families.
It was the sleazy way they were pushing it that made her baulk & not have it.
Again she’s been glad she did, as yet again she didn’t suffer any of the fresh new health hells her contemporaries have.

Indolent
Indolent
August 31, 2021 4:07 pm

This mad Staliism is now being designed purely to humiliate the proletariat.

What else. No haircut in 2 months. We want us all to look like Phyllis Diller. Back to the caves for us.

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 31, 2021 4:09 pm

Colonel Sanders has more credibility for protecting secrets than the US military.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 31, 2021 4:10 pm

JC at 3:53.
A Blackhawk is basically a truck and not very complex.
I don’t know how many have been left, but they will just pillage spares of any that are already a bit damaged to keep a smaller fleet flying.
Remember, they won’t be using them against a sophisticated enemy and they won’t have to worry about being accused of warcrimes by the Taliban Telly broadcaster.
They can set them up as gunships or even crude bombers and wreak havoc.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 31, 2021 4:15 pm

Armadillosays:
August 31, 2021 at 4:03 pm
Fuck spending decades and billions of dollars on R&D.

Just copy it and improve on it.

Doesn’t always work. IIRC, the US tried to copy the MG-42 during WW II, but the translation from metric to Imperial dimensions didn’t work.

Woolfe
Woolfe
August 31, 2021 4:16 pm

In a year non will be flying. Lots will have crashed.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 31, 2021 4:17 pm

JC says:Anyone know like if a military chopper is maintenance intense?

Depends how safe you want to be. Military aircraft maintained to degree of excellence are very rigorously looked after. But if you just want to keep ’em going then most are pretty tough.

Having said that there is a lot on an aircraft which can go wrong. A lot more than a car. It’s not just the engine(s); it’s the control surfaces, avionics, weapons systems and so on. The latter stuff tends to be annoying in that missiles and bombs need maintaining and if they don’t get it they won’t launch or release or go bang at the right time.

Our friends up north are classic examples. Anyone going to sea in most of the SE Asian navies is taking a lot more risk than if they go to sea with the Aussies, Singaporeans, Japanese – and that’s about it round here.

JC
JC
August 31, 2021 4:17 pm

they won’t have to worry about being accused of warcrimes by the Taliban Telly broadcaster.

Are you sure they won’t have a war-crimes tribunal? I thought they were super zealous with this sort of thing evidenced with the dude hanging by his neck from the flying chopper.

Woolfe
Woolfe
August 31, 2021 4:17 pm

Whoops

Martin Kulldorff
@MartinKulldorff
·
Aug 26
In Israel, vaccinated individuals had 27 times higher risk of symptomatic COVID infection compared to those with natural immunity from prior COVID disease [95%CI:13-57, adjusted for time of vaccine/disease]. No COVID deaths in either group.

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 31, 2021 4:18 pm

but the translation from metric to Imperial dimensions didn’t work.

[insert smiley face with tear drop]

Lysander
Lysander
August 31, 2021 4:21 pm

Apparently the US left over 100 blackhawks behind. They also left behind:

-A-29 Super Tucano
-ScanEagle mini military drone
-A MD-530F helicopter
-Mine-resistant vehicles (MRAPs
-Many humvees
-M24 Sniper Weapon System
-M18 assault weapons
-M4 Carbines
-Shitload of 40 mm high explosive grenades
-Their dignity

cohenite
August 31, 2021 4:27 pm

The talifucks will empower every muslim bastard in the world; see here for this and other delights:

Afghanistan: Taliban to ban music, as ‘Music is forbidden in Islam’

srr
srr
August 31, 2021 4:28 pm

“This is a campaign.”, it’s also evil and also why so many around the world were banned, cancelled, throttled, kettled, and generally packed attacked by those tasked with pushing through acceptance of the various components of ‘The Great Reset’.

Many saw & forewarned how groups such as Common Purpose, their spin offs & foundational groups work to get free people to give up their freedoms to the same people who run Death Panels & kill ‘bothersome’ people, with the full support of the majority, e.g. the NHS & Medicare criminalising treatments that could save lives & that free people are willing to pay for themselves.

twostix says:
August 31, 2021 at 3:34 pm

In light of Scomenegle’s maniacal press conference where he declared daycare ‘no jab no play’ is now national policy for all adults in Australia, it’s obvious that Israel is the model that we’re following.

So three months ago it was just ‘movies, restaurants and sports’ that you were banned from.

Today in Israel:

“Ministers of the high-level coronavirus cabinet voted Monday to expand the so-called Green Pass entry limitations to education, health, and social welfare institutions, a government statement said.”

Also now punishing rebellious regions by banning their children from going to school until they comply:
“Red City’ high schools with less than 70% vaccination rates to go to distance learning”
This is a campaign.

Roger
Roger
August 31, 2021 4:28 pm

Has prompted me to read this – https://newcriterion.com/issues/2006/9/the-consequences-of-richard-weaver – and just now purchase his book “Ideas have consequences”.

Enjoy, Duncan!

It’s a slim read but he packs a lot in their – he was a professor of rhetoric, after all! If you got the modern edition you should get a good intro by Roger Kimball as well.

It is, as they used to say, one of the seminal books of 20th C. conservatism.

That whole Southern agrarian literary movement is worth checking out as well.

Roger
Roger
August 31, 2021 4:28 pm

*there

My spelling has been atrocious today. I must be losing my mind.

Old bloke
Old bloke
August 31, 2021 4:30 pm

Lysander says:
August 31, 2021 at 4:21 pm

Apparently the US left over 100 blackhawks behind. They also left behind:

-A-29 Super Tucano
-ScanEagle mini military drone
-A MD-530F helicopter
-Mine-resistant vehicles (MRAPs
-Many humvees
-M24 Sniper Weapon System
-M18 assault weapons
-M4 Carbines
-Shitload of 40 mm high explosive grenades
-Their dignity

… and pallets of cash, several million dollars according to some reports.

Roger
Roger
August 31, 2021 4:36 pm

old bloke, it sounds like your letters are being handled by a staffer and not Hastie himself.

Thius is one of the problems with our democracy – the insulation of members from their electors.

Of course, a member can’t personally respond to every letter, but they need to be more accessible to their electorate.

The British practice of a regular “surgery” where any member of the public can front up and speak to their representative face to face would be a highly desirable reform to that end.

JC
JC
August 31, 2021 4:36 pm

cohenite says:
August 31, 2021 at 4:27 pm

The talifucks will empower every muslim bastard in the world; see here for this and other delights:

Afghanistan: Taliban to ban music, as ‘Music is forbidden in Islam’

And we’ve essentially banned smoking – even outside.

duncanm
duncanm
August 31, 2021 4:49 pm

cohenitesays:
August 31, 2021 at 4:27 pm
The talifucks will empower every muslim bastard in the world; see here for this and other delights:

Afghanistan: Taliban to ban music, as ‘Music is forbidden in Islam’

send in Kevin Bacon!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 31, 2021 4:49 pm

I have toyed with the idea of setting up Honest Alis 2nd hand Hummer parts dealership in the tribal lands of Pakistan and coining it as bits drop off the Yank stuff.

But fear of my life is preventing it.

srr
srr
August 31, 2021 4:50 pm

“struth says:
August 31, 2021 at 4:26 pm

It only seems like yesterday we were on the old cat talking about Australia becoming Hivizestan and arguing about superannuation and self funding retirements etc.”

________________________________________________

… and the day before yesterday when Sinc was banning those who dared mention the massive role that ‘Medical Professionals’ would play in bringing the world under a totalitarian dictatorship, ‘for our own good’.

After all, you could only yell, ‘Conspiracy Nut!’, so often before others noticed those doing that yelling were also ‘justifying’ things like the Death Panels, that the banned were warning of … and here we are …

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 31, 2021 4:50 pm

Several million bucks is sweet FA in the scheme of things. It wouldn’t be enough to pay wages to the Talibans security detail for more than a few months.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
August 31, 2021 4:59 pm

Armadillo says:
August 31, 2021 at 4:50 pm
Several million bucks is sweet FA in the scheme of things.

Pallet loads of cash – probably $US100’s. Shrinkwrapped.
Try several billion……. bit like Obummers Iranian “deal”.

Roger
Roger
August 31, 2021 4:59 pm

Afghanistan: Taliban to ban music, as ‘Music is forbidden in Islam’

Tell the birds not to sing then.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 31, 2021 5:00 pm

I have toyed with the idea of setting up Honest Alis 2nd hand Hummer parts dealership in the tribal lands of Pakistan and coining it as bits drop off the Yank stuff.

You’re too slow Mole.

Taliban Opens Chain Of U.S. Army Surplus Stores (25 Aug)

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 31, 2021 5:07 pm

This whole COVID/lockdown situation reminds me of the convoy driving around in Black Hawk Down.
All the state premiers are the skinnies popping up with AK’s & RPG’s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9p7oq58xqQ

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