Open Thread – Tues 14 Sept 2021


Battle of Tours, Charles de Steuben, 1837.

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Tom
Tom
September 17, 2021 12:25 pm

Australia needs to have exactly zero subs.

Bern, you’re as off your rocker as Milley.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2021 12:25 pm

Woolfesays:
September 17, 2021 at 12:05 pm
Unionised Victorian Construction workers have lunch and smoko in the street as Chairman Dan forbids them from gathering inside.

No sign of Black Shirts, tear gas, or rubber bullets

Stormtroopers RDO?

cohenite
September 17, 2021 12:27 pm

La Palma has a bloody great fracture right up the guts of the island, and has been a concern for tsunami people for some time. If the left half of the island slides into the sea, as is possible, the modeling suggests the tsunami arriving at New York City will be 50m high. Maybe even bigger.

I was in Thailand in 2013 and they were still patching up after the 2004 Tsunami. The height of those waves were about 50 meters.

Dot
Dot
September 17, 2021 12:27 pm

A Virginia Class without nuclear missiles is like an unloaded gun.

We don’t need to defend sea lanes.

Nukes – China cannot defend itself.

duncanm
duncanm
September 17, 2021 12:28 pm

Top Endersays:
September 17, 2021 at 12:10 pm
Australia needs to have exactly zero subs.

Might work.

A range of land-based silos

you mean ‘a range of fixed targets which can be taken out’

Exactly why the disputed Chinese bases on various atolls are no real threat. An ICBM-equipped sub or carrier group is much harder to fix target.

Dot
Dot
September 17, 2021 12:29 pm

Classical republicanism isn’t about crap like a hereditary monarchy.

A monarchy just prevents such a righteous path.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 17, 2021 12:29 pm

I would have thought that the advantage of having nuclear subs is that we would then be able to operate jointly with the US and, if we are part of their Pacific strategy (and them most of ours) then they will be all the more solicitous of our security.

We expect them to bail us out as it is. This way they have more of a reason.

duncanm
duncanm
September 17, 2021 12:33 pm

Exactly Mother Lode.

I view the sub contract as an expedient way to get US subs working out of Australian ports ASAP, under the cover of ‘training’, etc.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2021 12:33 pm

Submarines are an important plank of the defence strategy of an island nation.
The ditching of the French Prius subs was a no brainer and the most logical replacement was the nuculear variant of one of our major allies.
Almost as importantly, this is a sign of a minister willing to grab his portfolio by the scruff of the neck and tell the bureacrats he is makes the decisions and they implement them.

Dot
Dot
September 17, 2021 12:36 pm

Sortition, demarchy, jury nullification, direct participatory democracy, recall votes, ostracism, subsidiarity…the head of state issue is very marginal!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2021 12:37 pm

duncanmsays:

September 17, 2021 at 12:33 pm

Exactly Mother Lode.

I view the sub contract as an expedient way to get US subs working out of Australian ports ASAP, under the cover of ‘training’, etc.

And I have zero problem with that.
As long as the subs have gender neutral toilets.

Woolfe
Woolfe
September 17, 2021 12:37 pm

Under Comrade Albo the US nuke subs will be retrofitted with Tesla donks. These can be re charged at sea based Tesla windmills.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 17, 2021 12:39 pm

Professor Morawska, who is director of the International Laboratory for Air Quality and Health at Queensland University of Technology, has been named a top innovator with a citation that reads “her advocacy helped change practices everywhere from schools to workplaces, making these environments safer for more people around the world”.

“The most fundamental measure to eliminate the virus from indoor air is ventilation: every public building must have control measures to provide adequate ventilation,” Professor Morawska said of the recognition.

In the early months of the pandemic, she marshalled about 240 scientists urging authorities to address airborne transmission of Covid-19 and in May this year led dozens of researchers in calling for a “ventilation revolution” to clean up indoor air.

She devised a plan for Australia to follow in achieving clean air and is part of the executive of OzSAGE, the national network of independent experts offering advice on how to preserve and promote the wellbeing of Australians through the pandemic and beyond it.

It was apparent to Blind Freddie that this virus was airborne from very early on in the pandemic. Thus herding arrivals into often badly airconditioned quarantine hotels was a retrograde step, especially when there was no possibility of opening a window. Let alone the claustrophobia such conditions would have entailed for a 14 day stay. Nevertheless, this woman has done sterling scientific work to get better air quality in all buildings. Life-saving in some cases. A true scientist, providing the data.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2021 12:41 pm

If you think this sub deal was cooked up in a week and they managed to tee-up BoJo and SlowJoe all as a diversion for ScoMo’s Father’s Day outing, you are smoking some seriously good hydroponic shit.
I reckon this deal was in the offing under Trump, but we didn’t have the balls to do it then.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
September 17, 2021 12:42 pm

In the Great Scheme of Things, one old bloke in rural Queensland being charged by police for carrying a pocket knife is a tiny blip on the radar.

It shouldn’t be, it should be a full scale air raid alert.

Over zealous police in this country are steadily undermining the respect and trust that most of the population traditionally have given to police officers.

VicPol are the standouts in the uniformed thug stakes, with overweight plods kneeling down in front of howling BLM crowds, arresting pensioners for taking a spell on a park bench, handcuffing a tiny little woman in her pyjamas for a Facebook post and firing tear gas at unarmed citizens, but other state police are heading down the same track..

There are many honest and conscientious cops out there, and it would be chaos without an active police force in the community, but some of these rogues who seem drunk with power need to be reined in.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 17, 2021 12:42 pm

Classical republicanism isn’t about crap like a hereditary monarchy.

A monarchy just prevents such a righteous path.

Cincinnatus lives!!

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 17, 2021 12:44 pm

What facts do you really have?

We have very few facts, about anything, we have to make do with reports of facts from other ppl of doubtful reliability. I don’t have enough facts to confirm beyond reasonable doubt that men have walked on the moon, although I’m pretty sure they have. Reasonably reliable data about wuflu does exist, and can be used with some caution, for example the Diamond Princess data. There is also good evidence to suggest that our government has totalitarian urges at all levels. And plenty of evidence that they are incompetent. I don’t have direct experience of these things, but I can put together reports on what they have said. I give some high level of credibility to the above report by one of us on what Tony Abbott wrote in the Oz, although I haven’t read a newspaper in many a long yonk. And I am not confident that Abbott believes what he says, for several reasons.

In this world we can’t be certain of anthing much, but we can and do make sensible judgments.

In short, Struth, you overstate your position, as you often do. Reasonable arguments can be contaminated by polemic, and it weakens your case.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 17, 2021 12:45 pm

ok subs, now what about a leaky bio-weapons lab?

Arky
September 17, 2021 12:46 pm

Defence of Australia from China involves this:
Doing whatever is required to allow the US to land U.S. Marines on the Australian Mainland.
Long term the security of Australia requires another 20 million loyal Australians, an INDUSTRIAL BASE in order to design, make and service whatever the next generation of cutting edge military shit is (drones, satellites, viruses, gigantic fucking robots with lasers for eyes, what the fuck ever).
As the USA seems to be infecting the rest of the English speaking world with it’s toxic woke crap. I think the first act of any conservative who wants to defend Australia might be to give the old style lefties like Numberface the thing they always said they wanted, and cut the cable on all that US cultural product. Including the social media shit.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 17, 2021 12:47 pm

Under Comrade Albo the US nuke subs will be retrofitted with Tesla donks. These can be re charged at sea based Tesla windmills.

Nope, Elon has been sin binned by the Left. Perhaps they could use Bolt motors instead?

After Two Recalls, GM Finally Just Tells Bolt EV Owners: “Don’t Park Your Car Within 50 Feet Of Another Car” (16 Sep)

Ok, maybe not Bolt motors.

It's Remarkable
It’s Remarkable
September 17, 2021 12:48 pm

Found this link in a comment on a Spectator article. It suggests that if unvaccinated people with Covid end up at hospital they essentially get nothing until they are ill enough to require a ventilator. However, if a vaccinated person catches Covid and also ends up needing hospitalisation they get Ivermectin.

I have not idea if this is true for many or any cases, but if true this would surely be known by the nursing staff and prescribing doctors, so it should leak at some stage (as I say, IF it is true)

If this is true, then it needs to get publicised and could turn out to be pivotal. That is IF it is true.
Link (pick the centre video, the chap with the finger waving):
https://disq.us/url?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reignitedemocracyaustralia.com.au%2Fmembers%2Ftruthagainsttheworld%2Fvideos%2F%3AOXALALM5FDDYUucdurKylcImEPs&cuid=3812682

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 17, 2021 12:48 pm

I’ve read somewhere that a piece of South America fell into the sea about 600 years ago and the resultant Tsunami came over the height of The Gap into Sydney’s harbour. So some geologist said.

Don’t know if it’s fake news or not. I’ve done the measure by eye, we’re safe, just about high enough up in the Vaucluse dress circle. I’ve always said views are better than waterfrontage. 😀

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 17, 2021 12:54 pm

Reasonable arguments can be contaminated by polemic, and it weakens your case.

Yep. Short, sharp and reasonable. Except when you decide not to be, to push the boat out and have a real go at something. There is a place for polemic too in life. But not too much of it.

I don’t mind politicians copping a bit of flak here and there.
Some Cats and Kittehs specialise in creative insult. It’s good to vent.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2021 12:54 pm

That didn’t take long …

Alex Turnbull

@alexbhturnbull · 1h

@TurnbullMalcolm, @Kruddpm and @Cpyne were all of one view on sub purchase. The French subs were unparalleled when it came to that pinging noise they make.
Far superior.

Zipster
Zipster
September 17, 2021 12:56 pm

repost wrong thread

What, durham found a bit player to take the fall

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 17, 2021 12:57 pm

You also need a cadre of people with knowledge of how to run a guerrilla war.

Barry
Barry
September 17, 2021 12:57 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
September 17, 2021 at 12:39 pm

Professor Morawska, who is director of the International Laboratory for Air Quality and Health at Queensland University of Technology, has been named a top innovator with a citation that reads “her advocacy helped change practices everywhere from schools to workplaces, making these environments safer for more people around the world”.

Nevertheless, this woman has done sterling scientific work to get better air quality in all buildings. Life-saving in some cases. A true scientist, providing the data.

Rubbish.
External air induction has been an engineering requirement ever since artificial air conditioning was posited.
She’s a self promoter who would like you to think that engineers never thought of indoor air quality until she came along.
She’s a key proponent of the bullshit PM2.5 scare that causes everything from heart disease to cancer.

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 17, 2021 1:00 pm

Thanks for the Engineer’s Hymn. The inimitable Leslie Fish.
This one is fun too, video of the lady herself singing.
She also wrote “The Eagle has Landed” a hymn for Apollo 11 and look up “Flight 93”.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 17, 2021 1:03 pm

Labour call for “its not censorship or political manipulation when we get Google to do it” blocking political opponents political messaging.

Labor appeals to Google over misinformation fears before Australian election
Google queried over its strategy to prevent being ‘exploited’ by political figures such as Clive Palmer and Craig Kelly, who have been accused of undermining Australia’s response to Covid

What horrible things have they been doing.??

The Therapeutic Goods Administration also on Wednesday issued a cease and desist letter to Kelly as leader of the United Australian party (UAP), demanding that the party stop distributing incomplete extracts of adverse event reports relating to Covid-19 vaccines which the regulator believes “could be seriously misleading”.

Imagine that, a political party only running the bits of research they want to highlight.
Unheard of.

I assume all political parties are now banned from referring to ejaculating taxpayers money up the wall as “Investment”.?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 17, 2021 1:04 pm

Dr. BG is right though. So much of what we consider factual is hyp, or faked, or rumour assisted by Chinese Whispers. Especially when journalism is at its current low state of being mere activism, and politicians are all trying to look out for themselves rather than the country. It can be depressing.

No, I won’t go there. No black dog in this household. Attapuss, now nicknamed Fatso, is quite enough in the line of animal irritants around here, the way he wails whenever Hairy and I hug, because he’s feeling left out. Hugs are the best antidote to depression. We were meant to live in groups and not be afraid of other human bodies. Whoever put up the link to ‘The Hunter Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century’ thanks – I will see if it is on Kindle. Just the thing for counteracting modernity.

My dad once had a black dog. He called it by a banned word.
It’s wasn’t considered objectionable back in the day as a name for a hound, or shoe-polish.
Now, when Blacktown was in the Covid news recently, I did wonder what the US thought of that.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 17, 2021 1:05 pm

They are advertising ‘Cheer’ cheese on TV now. Everyone is very cheerful.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 17, 2021 1:06 pm

What, durham found a bit player to take the fall

Yes, someone who will never have to work again post their stay at the white collar prison farm.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 17, 2021 1:06 pm

Thanks for the thread weather warning, Dover. So helpful. We do need reminding, for poor Winston was left chatting away for hours on the old one when this one opened. I’ve been caught out too.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2021 1:10 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:

September 17, 2021 at 1:05 pm

They are advertising ‘Cheer’ cheese on TV now. Everyone is very cheerful.

It will always be Nigger Cheese to me.
Because it was invented by a Mr George Nigger of Minnesota.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2021 1:11 pm

Sorry, Coon.
Not Nigger.
If they’d just left things alone these mistakes wouldn’t happen.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 17, 2021 1:12 pm

Lunchtime here. Hairy has bought German Frankfurts again, with soft buns and cream cheese.

Yum. With mustard and/or tomato sauce.

This market information will no doubt be of use to KD in the placement of his hot dog stand.
I am of course an ‘influencer’. The Eastern Suburbs will be hot dog central soon. Just you see. 🙂

John H.
John H.
September 17, 2021 1:12 pm

feelthebernsays:
September 17, 2021 at 11:52 am
Conservative: I hate ScoMo.
ScoMo: Here’s some shiny subs.
Sane Person: How much do they cost, when will we see the first one delivered, what are the outs built into the contract?
ScoMo: Yes sir, shiny shiny subs.
Conservatives: I love ScoMo.

By the time we get enough the subs if the China situation hasn’t resolved and things haven’t gone belly up there China will have a military capacity well beyond the USA. I think this is more about providing USA subs with optimal servicing facilities in Australia.

It is Scotty from Marketing. People are believing it. Damn.

calli
calli
September 17, 2021 1:14 pm

Not Nugget? Or Kiwi?

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 17, 2021 1:14 pm
Nelson_Kidd-Players
September 17, 2021 1:15 pm

I’d be happy for new freds to launch at 3:30 AM so Tom’s ‘toons get pride of place. ?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 17, 2021 1:15 pm

This is the role Cage was born for.

https://youtu.be/Tp2teyMGVzU

“He’s the actor the world deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we’ll watch him…Because he can fake it…Because he’s not our Oscar winner. He’s a silent mime, a shouting berzerker…A complete Ham”

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 17, 2021 1:15 pm

Former Boeing Pilot Expected to Face Prosecution in 737 MAX Probe

Federal prosecutors plan to criminally charge a former Boeing pilot they suspect of misleading aviation regulators about safety issues blamed for two fatal crashes of the 737 MAX, according to people familiar with the matter.

A pilot is the cause for the engineering issues with the 737 MAX?
The problem this pilot had when he mislead the investigators was that he wasn’t a FBI agent lying to a FISA court.
Do that & you’re home free.

calli
calli
September 17, 2021 1:16 pm

I can’t comment about the subs because I know zero about them, the pros and cons, the strategic importance, etc.

My only interest is in the timing of the announcement.

It’s a classic “look over there” moment.

twostix
twostix
September 17, 2021 1:19 pm

VicPol are the standouts in the uniformed thug stakes, with overweight plods kneeling down in front of howling BLM crowds, arresting pensioners for taking a spell on a park bench, handcuffing a tiny little woman in her pyjamas for a Facebook post and firing tear gas at unarmed citizens, but other state police are heading down the same track..

In that Aussie Cossack video the wanker who squares up to the person videoing has a massive all black sleeve tattoo covering his whole forearm.

Very 2008 gen-x, sad guy, and makes it look like NSW Police have been recruiting from the hells angels – soy division.

I joke but it is serious, with tattoos like that comes a mindset, put a bunch of people with that mindset together with guns and you get a gang ‘we’re not like you’ mindset.

srr
srr
September 17, 2021 1:19 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
September 17, 2021 at 12:41 pm
If you think this sub deal was cooked up in a week and they managed to tee-up BoJo and SlowJoe all as a diversion for ScoMo’s Father’s Day outing, you are smoking some seriously good hydroponic shit.
I reckon this deal was in the offing under Trump, but we didn’t have the balls to do it then.

I still contend that moving the West on from the many Globalist traps it’s been seduced by (which necessarily meant bringing Australia up to modern military base standards), was part of what got ‘The Goodies’ behind Trump & helped to push him past the Hillary Camp.
I fully believe that Trump’s been working with the world’s secret powerful ‘Goodies’ since he was quite young.

struth
struth
September 17, 2021 1:22 pm

Ozsage are left wing activists Lizzie.

Reasonably reliable data about wuflu does exist.

That’s just a statement.
In a situation where our liberties are gone, should you not require proof?
At the very least?
What about when the data is always changing.
The vaxxes are safe, then they are withdrawn, then pushed again.
You and many like you make these statements, and whether or not a man went to the moon or not does not impact on your Liberty, fair enough.
Make some conclusions based on what you may think is the real story.
My argument is sound.
When life and death for millions of people are at stake and our liberties gone, dribbling shit and calling what may be pure propaganda “reasonable” well then sir, “maybe ” isn’t good enough by a long shot.
Lizzie no more knows for a fact what covid does to lungs than she knows how the inner workings of an 18 speed Road Ranger works.
And she can’t prove she does.
She can quote something that she has been told or read she has chosen to believe.

It’s not just Lizzie, but I’m just using her as an example.
In this situation, facts are all that should be accepted.
My family doctor in SA is telling my father all about the safety of the jabs and the terrible disease called covid.
He has never come across covid.
Ever.
Doctors and nurses are as politically gullible as anyone else, and like many here, believe any bullshit if it has the term “official” put in front of it.
When you have corrupt governance, a corrupted and bought and paid for MSM, then the word official means nothing, and probably , like Climate change, absolute official bollocks.
Facts when it’s this serious.
Facts are the only relevance when things are this dire.

Tom
Tom
September 17, 2021 1:23 pm

Yum. With mustard and/or tomato sauce.

My next door neighbour has been bringing me home-made corned beef with home-made relish. Delicious!

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
September 17, 2021 1:24 pm

. . . . put a bunch of people with that mindset together with guns and you get a gang ‘we’re not like you’ mindset.

from twostix.

Hear, hear.
I cringe when I hear police referring to ordinary people as “civilians”.

Mindset.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 17, 2021 1:26 pm

Interesting because of trend but odd because of a massive revision.
https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-active-cases/nsw

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 17, 2021 1:30 pm

It’s a classic “look over there” moment

Which has been in discussion stage for a long time. It’s not a spur of the moment announcement made to divert the attention of the plebs.
Having the US, UK and Oz all agree to a significant collaboration is momentous, not taken lightly, and of vast strategic importance.
All of which counters the “look over there” theory. Particularly if you are saying the subs announcement was made to divert attention away from the Fathers’ Day scandal which was very recent.
Perhaps “coincidental” is more appropriate.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 17, 2021 1:30 pm

She’s a key proponent of the bullshit PM2.5 scare that causes everything from heart disease to cancer.

OK, so she’s on the public health bandwaggon. Not surprising.

It may be unjust to engineers, as your outrage suggests, Barry. Nevertheless some buildings do have terrible aircon and aircon maintenance. Legionnaire’s is just one nasty from it. And particulate pollution is something worth considering in any air environment. Geez, worst air I ever tried not to breathe was in the plaza before the Forbidden City in Beijing. Retreated to the hotel to spend two days inside to get away from it, to be then subjected to the TV being heavily blipped out during certain sensitive moments re Tiananmen Square in a foreign broadcast.

Decided I hated China. Was with Hairy there at his conference. Beijing’s Great Wall and the Summer Palace of the Empress were both good though. By 2019 Hairy said he’d better show me Shanghai soon in case things went belly up politically, for Social Credits had been introduced, so we did a stopover for three days. The old Art Deco was glorious. The new architecure was almost invariably Disneyesque.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 17, 2021 1:32 pm

Hot dogs done!

Rabz
September 17, 2021 1:32 pm

now what about a leaky bio-weapons lab?

And a pangolin in every pot.

Delta A
Delta A
September 17, 2021 1:33 pm

It’s a classic “look over there” moment.

As someone pointed out upthread, this whole AUKUS deal has been under negotiation for ages, possible back as far as Trump.

But yes, the timing of the announcement has been felicitous indeed for Morrison.

John H.
John H.
September 17, 2021 1:35 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
September 17, 2021 at 1:30 pm
She’s a key proponent of the bullshit PM2.5 scare that causes everything from heart disease to cancer.

OK, so she’s on the public health bandwaggon. Not surprising.

It may be unjust to engineers, as your outrage suggests, Barry. Nevertheless some buildings do have terrible aircon and aircon maintenance. Legionnaire’s is just one nasty from it. And particulate pollution is something worth considering in any air environment. Geez, worst air I ever tried not to breathe was in the plaza before the Forbidden City in Beijing. Retreated to the hotel to spend two days inside to get away from it, to be then subjected to the TV being heavily blipped out during certain sensitive moments re Tiananmen Square in a foreign broadcast.

A number of studies have found home indoor air can be worse than on the street. It is a good idea to carefully choose paint(low VOC) and keep the carpets in optimal condition. How many people pay attention to their aircon? BTW some of those air purifiers are worse because of ozone release. Open the windows!

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 17, 2021 1:36 pm

He has never come across covid.

I heard a well placed rumour today that the NSW government expects Covid to sweep through the population after restrictions are relaxed.
To cope with the load, extra helicopters and on-board paramedics have been organised for this November/December period. Many hospital wards have been closed to people with other medical problems, and reserved for Covid patients.

Yes, a rumour, but I’m quickly seeing other conspiracy theories play out in real life so perhaps it’s true.

srr
srr
September 17, 2021 1:38 pm

You’ve sold me –

thefrollickingmolesays:
September 17, 2021 at 1:15 pm

This is the role Cage was born for.

https://youtu.be/Tp2teyMGVzU

“He’s the actor the world deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we’ll watch him…Because he can fake it…Because he’s not our Oscar winner. He’s a silent mime, a shouting berzerker…A complete Ham”

Even before one of my kids worked on a Nicolas Cage movie, I was an, ‘Abed level’, fan, post his moment of doubt … 😉 🙂

Nicolas Cage works in mysterious ways
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2uEQ46zVMQ

Besides, it reminds me of another of my all time favourite movies, with added Nicolas Cage! 🙂

The Good the Bad the Weird (2008) –
The story of three Korean outlaws in 1940s Manchuria and their rivalry to possess a treasure.

John H.
John H.
September 17, 2021 1:40 pm

Nicolas Cage’s Agent

To give him a break the review I read last night of PIG praised Cage’s performance.

Winston Smith
September 17, 2021 1:40 pm

Twostix et al:

The person who has lived a clean life, respected the law, paid taxes, is about to be banned from life without trial, and as far as the establishment and ruling class is concerned cast down to beneath the lowest heroin addict, because Henry Ergas is 70 now and doesn’t want to risk catching a cold at Coffee Club.

Purge.
Now.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 17, 2021 1:42 pm

In a situation where our liberties are gone, should you not require proof?
At the very least?

You can prove things in mathematics, Struth, but in the real world we have to make do with evidence. And most evidence is reported rather than observed. Some sources are manifestly untrustworthy, the msm and government being prime examples. I gave up trusting either long ago. But some medics have looked relatively honest and relatively well informed. I don’t trust anybody, I was trained to watch out for deception, particularly self-deception, and to check everything I could. I have learnt to look for self-interest and the warped reality of the zealot.

Don’t turn into a zealot, Struth.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 17, 2021 1:43 pm

Cheer cheese is the pits.

What would have been wrong with “Cooonnn”?

People are so literal!

Ellen of Tasmania
Ellen of Tasmania
September 17, 2021 1:43 pm

For those who want the cherries the MSM leave on the tree. Latest episode.

https://thehighwire.com/watch/

srr
srr
September 17, 2021 1:49 pm

John H.says:
September 17, 2021 at 1:40 pm
Nicolas Cage’s Agent

To give him a break the review I read last night of PIG praised Cage’s performance.

Cage has managed to keep himself moving freely amongst the world’s movers & shakers for a very long time and also getting paid, ‘Well enough, thank you.’, while he’s at it.
Brand yourself a ‘very successful ham’ and very few even care to see the genius actor under the label …

duncanm
duncanm
September 17, 2021 1:49 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
September 17, 2021 at 12:48 pm

Geological Indicators of Large Tsunami in
Australia

Rabz
September 17, 2021 1:49 pm

it was the one & only Tony Abbott

Thanks Bern, I should have known.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 17, 2021 1:52 pm
duncanm
duncanm
September 17, 2021 1:54 pm

Farmer Gezsays:
September 17, 2021 at 1:26 pm
Interesting because of trend but odd because of a massive revision.

Farmer – what do you mean by “revision”?

What’s the bet the down-trend is due to the recent burst of warmer weather and people moving outdoors?

srr
srr
September 17, 2021 1:56 pm

Old School Conservativesays:
September 17, 2021 at 1:30 pm

It’s a classic “look over there” moment

Perhaps “coincidental” is more appropriate.

How about a Morale Boosting bit of good news to keep the fighters fighting on rather than falling before the last.

srr
srr
September 17, 2021 2:00 pm

FlyingPigs says:
September 16, 2021 at 10:52 pm

Pope Francis: Abortion ‘Is More Than a Problem, It Is Murder’

https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2021/09/15/pope-francis-abortion-is-more-than-a-problem-it-is-murder/

Yeah, except, he throws in his weasel words to give heretics & Anti-Christ’s back their excuse for putting their Faith In Scientism over God’s Word, their “clump of cells” lie to again deny God’s Word.

***
Pick up any embryology textbook for medical students,” the pontiff continued. “By the third week after conception, all the organs are already there, all of them, even the DNA … It’s a human life!”

“This human life must be respected, this principle is so clear!” he added.”
***

Which human life?
The human conceived 3 weeks ago because only now do they now have human organs, or the newly conceived human who has their own unique DNA from conception?

He knows that from conception the DNA is unique to each newly created human being.

He also knows that not all human being are born with all organs yet they are still human being’s, not to be denied the sanctity of human life.

In this announcement he’s reconstructed that filthy old slippery slope back down to hell.

struth says:
September 17, 2021 at 12:04 pm
[…]
What we have , unfortunately, is a generation of trusters, who , coming from a high trust Christian ethical society, now find themselves in a godless , evil, socialist tyranny, but just can’t believe that everything they are being fed is bullshit.
[…]

johanna
johanna
September 17, 2021 2:05 pm

Re indoor air quality – the irony is that the greenies have been campaigning to make homes and buildings hermetically sealed because it reduces the need for evil aircon and other heating and cooling methods, all of which produce debbil debbil CO2.

Every time the MSM runs one of those ‘how to reduce your energy bills’ articles, Item 1 is stop up the draughts. Fresh air is the enemy. Making energy affordable so that we can still open a window now and then in winter (or summer) has never been on the agenda.

I daresay most of us have worked in buildings and stayed in hotels where it is impossible to get any fresh air into the room, even in an emergency such as during a power failure. I vividly recall being trapped at work in an office in summer where the aircon stopped working and it was over 40C inside when we finally rebelled and walked out. It was considerably cooler outside.

Putting people in hotel rooms for quarantine without access to fresh air is asking for trouble, no matter how good the systems are.

Tom
Tom
September 17, 2021 2:10 pm

This is one of the dumbest pieces of self-harm the thoroughbred racing industry has ever inflicted on itself:

Jamie Kah has been banned from riding for a total of five months with the Victorian Racing Tribunal again penalising the star rider on Friday for her part in last month’s illegal Airbnb gathering at Mornington.

Last season’s record-breaking champion rider is not permitted to ride again until the last week of January next year with the VRT noting her actions in providing false evidence to stewards over who attended the gathering was worthy of an additional two-month ban.

VRT chairman Judge John Bowman said the tribunal considered the charges of attending the illegal gathering, for which she received three months, and for providing false and/or misleading evidence as being separate charges that required separate sanctions.

Judge Bowman said: ‘’The bottom line is we are of the opinion that a period of two months suspension should be imposed for this charge under (ARR) 232 (i) and be cumulative in its entirety from the period of three months suspension imposed by the stewards in relation to AR 232 (b), thus the total period of suspension for both will be five months.’’

In announcing the penalty, Judge Bowman noted:

‘’You have an unblemished record in respect to this or any other serious offence.

‘’You are highly successful and, in fact, won the award for riding the most metropolitan winners in the 2020-21 season.

‘’As submitted by (Kah’s barrister) Mr (Damian) Sheales, you have created a large amount of positive, widespread interest in racing.

‘’Apart from your obviously outstanding ability, the manner in which you presented yourself brought a lot of favourable attention to the sport and the industry associated with it.’’

On Wednesday, the VRT found Kah guilty under ARR 232 (i) of providing stewards with false and/or misleading evidence after the tribunal found she held back information from stewards concerning jockey Mark Zahra’s attendance at the gathering.

The 25-year-old joins riders Mark Zahra and apprentice Celine Gaudray in being found guilty of the charge and having their original three-month bans extended. Zahra had one month added while Gaurday had two weeks tacked on with further suspended bans hanging over their heads for the next two years.

Fellow riders Ben Melham and Ethan Brown face a directions hearing on Friday morning into their charges of providing false and/or misleading evidence.

Link

duncanm
duncanm
September 17, 2021 2:11 pm

Rather than the sub announcement being the distraction, I see it as being slipped through while the covid distraction goes on.

The greens and other pantywaists can’t get a word in edgeways.

Magnificent.

Winston Smith
September 17, 2021 2:18 pm

Calli:

I wonder if secateurs are okay?

Certainly not.
They can be dismantled to give Dual High Capacity Assault Knives.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 17, 2021 2:20 pm

Tom says:
September 17, 2021 at 2:10 pm

Won’t happen but every jockey in Australia should walk off the job until no “committee” of stewards can impose fines.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 17, 2021 2:21 pm

nor lay charges.

JC
JC
September 17, 2021 2:23 pm

Wow. You go girl.

Close to half of all new U.S. gun buyers since the beginning of 2019 have been women, a shift for a market long dominated by men, according to a new study.

The preliminary results from the 2021 National Firearms Survey, designed by Deborah Azrael of the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health and Matthew Miller of Northeastern University, show an estimated 3.5 million women became new gun owners from January 2019 through April of this year. About 4 million men became new gun owners over that period, they found.

For decades, other surveys have found that around 10% to 20% of American gun owners were women.

The number of federal background checks for gun purchases hit an all-time high in 2020 of 21 million, according to an analysis of federal data by the National Shooting Sports Foundation, an industry trade group.

WSJ

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 17, 2021 2:28 pm

And I have zero problem with that.
As long as the subs have gender neutral toilets.

Man, that is just fiddling with minutiae!

We are stuck with the fact that submarines are hopelessly priapic in shape.

How could we even dream of submarine effectiveness without diversity! Diversity is strength! It is a transcendent imperative even!

Australia must invest in a radical new type of design of submersible craft that exploit the form of lady-bits.

johanna
johanna
September 17, 2021 2:29 pm

Tom, could she appeal to the Administrative Appeals Tribunal or equivalent?

In administrative law, depriving a person of their livelihood is absolutely the last resort, and is only done when something very bad indeed has gone down. I’m talking wilful or malicious negligence leading to someone being killed, that kind of thing. Kah’s ‘offences’ are trivial in this context.

What is it about sports administrators that makes them behave like tyrants?

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
September 17, 2021 2:30 pm

My sister went over to the US as ‘no guns can’t we just get along’ peacenik. Lives their for 5 years. After 2 years she had a gun licence, a permit to carry, a piece and was professionally trained. Came back believing it was no big deal and it was part of life in DC. ?

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
September 17, 2021 2:30 pm

The ? Show be a laughing emoji.

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
September 17, 2021 2:31 pm

Subs aren’t needed in the civil war.
Classic magician game.
What’s the other hand doing?
Oh yeah, fascism …
Eye on the ball, resist!

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
September 17, 2021 2:31 pm

Their should be there. Stoopid auto cricket.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 17, 2021 2:32 pm

From a foot soldier jockey:

First they came for Jamie Kah and I did nothing because if they can take out the most visible, successful rider then they can also take me out.
Then they came for Ben Melham and Ethan Brown and I did nothing because I’m still scared of the stewards.
Then they came for me and there was no-one left to support me.

End of solidarity amongst the jockey fraternity. No-one stands up for anyone else.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 17, 2021 2:35 pm

Australia must invest in a radical new type of design of submersible craft that exploit the form of lady-bits.

That would be as useful as a c&*t full of cold water.

VRT chairman Judge John Bowman
Hes a jumped up administrator, calling a mong like that a judge is how we got Lionel murphy on the high court.
And exactly what racing “law” has she broken?
If she had been punished via the courts then why does a sports administration grant itself the power to impose a bigger penalty?

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 17, 2021 2:35 pm

Why doesn’t VicPol have the water cannons out clearing the unions off the streets today?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 17, 2021 2:36 pm

Or we cold go for the Karen class of subs.

It employs absolutely no stealth features at all, doesn’t even go under water. It instead barges loudly and aggressively straight up to its foe, delivering a preposterously unhinged shrewish tirade which inevitably finishes with “I demand to speak to the manager!”

Faces with such a foe even the most hardened naval captain will retreat just to get away from them, glad that they can get away from them while feeling a faint sense of pity for the man that was briefly blinded by fleeting beauty mistook for confidence what was in fact the mere tip of an iceberg of arrogance.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 17, 2021 2:37 pm

Where are all the feminists supporting Jamie Kah?
It is surely a Cause célèbre for them.

Indolent
Indolent
September 17, 2021 2:39 pm
calli
calli
September 17, 2021 2:40 pm

Thanks OSC. I was becoming a bit an Eeyore over the subs announcement. I shall return to being Piglet.

🙂

calli
calli
September 17, 2021 2:43 pm

Were those construction guys blocking the tram line? LOL!

They were safe though. Hi-viz stops trams.

JC
JC
September 17, 2021 2:44 pm

Vlad

A few days ago, you disagreed with my comment that I thought Milley isn’t that bright. You made, what appears on the surface to be, a comment backed up with a reasonable argument in that no one at that level is stupid. Let me disagree with you and show why I think he’s not just stupid by dangerously so.

Let’s take the recent example that he spoke to his Chinese counterpart and attempted to settle them down as the regime was very concerned Trump was going to attack them.

Leave aside the fact that he shouldn’t be doing this because he takes orders from civilians.

Look at it from this perspective. What if, in fact, his Chinese counterpart was actually lying and rather than being concerned about Trump’s mental state, the Chinese regime was going to attack the US. Milley promising not to attack the Chinese unless he called his counterpart to inform him of US actions is shockingly dangerous.

Winston Smith
September 17, 2021 2:47 pm

TFM:

If only those pesky dead sea pedestrians getting “policed” had announced they were on smoko instead of a religious celebration.

Never underestimate the Jewish propensity to go balls to the wall if they feel threatened – The Warsaw Uprising, the King David Hotel Incident, and of course, Masada.

shatterzzz
September 17, 2021 2:48 pm

As someone pointed out upthread, this whole AUKUS deal has been under negotiation for ages, possible back as far as Trump.
But yes, the timing of the announcement has been felicitous indeed for Morrison.

Unfortunately, I thinx that the about face on subs has come far to late to save BRADBURY .. About the only thing that could save him now is returning Ausfailure back to Australia!
Cut off all the bill paying for the States .. re-iterate the vax is choice not compulsory by deception and end lockdowns .. if he hasn’t got the power to do this already then do what GLADYS & DAN do .. just say it will be so .. PERIOD! ……. seems to work for them .. FFS!

Indolent
Indolent
September 17, 2021 2:53 pm
Barry
Barry
September 17, 2021 2:56 pm

Re: Ventilation for Indoor Air Quality (Note link to disease).

The most authoritative American work on minimum ventilation estimates came from a physician named J. Billings in the late 1800s. He argued for higher ventilation rates because he was concerned about the spread of disease, particularly tuberculosis. In 1895, ASHVE (American Society of Ventilation Engineers) “adopted the view that engineers were ready to accept the ideas of hygienists and physiologists” (Klauss et al. 1970). They recommended 30 cfm (14 L/s) per person as a minimum and placed responsibility of design and construction on engineers.

From: link

Indolent
Indolent
September 17, 2021 2:59 pm

What we have , unfortunately, is a generation of trusters, who , coming from a high trust Christian ethical society, now find themselves in a godless , evil, socialist tyranny, but just can’t believe that everything they are being fed is bullshit.

I think this is the crux of the whole matter. Evil is always hard to face and, on this level, almost impossible to believe.

Armadillo
Armadillo
September 17, 2021 3:01 pm

Has it been reported how long it took the submarine deal to be negotiated?

It must have taken a fair while you would assume. Was it originally Trumps idea?

I reckon probably not, as he would have made a statement by now.

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 17, 2021 3:04 pm

If they’d just left things alone these mistakes wouldn’t happen.

SWMBO picked up a block of Cheer and put it in the trolley where it remained until I said it used to be called Coon. Straight back onto the shelf

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 17, 2021 3:04 pm

Millions in lockdown, yet 2000 TWU members will strike next week.
What a pack of pricks.

Rorschach
Rorschach
September 17, 2021 3:05 pm

I’ve read somewhere that a piece of South America fell into the sea about 600 years ago and the resultant Tsunami came over the height of The Gap into Sydney’s harbour. So some geologist said.

1491 Tsunami = though from a suspected meteorite impact. And these happen regularly. And you are right – a view is better than absolute water frontage in the long term. Bryant is a good authority

A Cosmogenic mega-tsunami in the Australia region: are they supported by Aboriginal and Maori legends?
https://ro.uow.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1035&context=scipapers

The impact of tsunami on the coastline of Jervis Bay, South eastern Australia:
https://ro.uow.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1138&context=scipapers

srr
srr
September 17, 2021 3:05 pm

Francis’s Unbelievable Declaration For Heresy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwIZtDey62g

Sep 16, 2021
Return To Tradition

Francis The Celebrator of The Season of Creation wants the Church to be full of adventurers in theology.”

***
“Pick up any embryology textbook for medical students,” the pontiff continued. “By the third week after conception, all the organs are already there, all of them, even the DNA … It’s a human life!”

“This human life must be respected, this principle is so clear!” he added.”
***

Which human life?
The human conceived 3 weeks ago because only now do they have human organs, or the newly conceived human who has their own unique DNA from conception?

He knows that from conception the DNA is unique to each newly created human being.

Talk about ‘adventuring’ in theology.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 17, 2021 3:06 pm

Make some conclusions based on what you may think is the real story.

That’s my usual MO, Struth. Verify everything. There is a lot of political finessing about Covid, I know that. But it is real and I don’t want to get it.

We are booking our flights now for late March to take that Panama cruise from Florida.
No time wasters to get in our way, I hope.

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 17, 2021 3:07 pm

Construction workers in Melbourne today

A thing of beauty and a joy to behold

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
September 17, 2021 3:11 pm

We are booking our flights now for late March to take that Panama cruise from Florida.
LOLS!!
A triumph of optimism or stupidity?
You ain’t goin’ nowhere, Lizzie.
Time to put your financial resources to supporting the resistance.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 17, 2021 3:11 pm

For any interested, I believe the new season of Archer appears in Netflix today or tomorrow.

Just thought I would mention it.

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
September 17, 2021 3:19 pm

And anyone who will take advantage of any kind of Vaxx passport system (Vaxxed or not) to do anything a Clean citizen cannot do, should be banned.
If you don’t stand with us 2021Jews then what are you?
“I’m off to Panama!!
#GetVaxxed
#VaxxMachtFrei”
No mercy for collaborators.
No dignity either.
The resistance never forgets.

Mater
September 17, 2021 3:22 pm

It’s a classic “look over there” moment

Whilst I applaud the sub purchase, and the move to nuclear, this is a move to defend a nation that he has allowed to be torn into it’s various components, by State Premiers.

If he wants to look to the defence of the Commonwealth of Australia, he need only put on his reading glasses.

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
September 17, 2021 3:22 pm

14 Days to Flatten the Curve is now No Jab,No Job in Yarragrad.
And coming everywhere.
Ready to Fight yet?

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
September 17, 2021 3:23 pm

Moderated?
It’s a big club, but I ain’t in it
?
Do better, Neo-Catallaxy!

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 17, 2021 3:24 pm

“Commonwealth of Australia”

I thought it had been abolished?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2021 3:27 pm

And I have zero problem with that.
As long as the subs have gender neutral toilets.

Man, that is just fiddling with minutiae!

We are stuck with the fact that submarines are hopelessly priapic in shape.

HMAS Donger.
HMAS Mutton Gun.
HMAS Todger.
HMAS Trouser Snake.
HMAS Schlong.
HMAS Pork Sword.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 17, 2021 3:30 pm

Greens poised to announce Kooyong candidate
John Ferguson
JOHN FERGUSON

The Greens are set to announce 37-year-old employment lawyer Piers Mitchem as their candidate for the inner Melbourne federal seat of Kooyong.
Mr Mitchem has a master’s degree in nuclear non-proliferation.
———————————————————————————

From the Oz. “A Master’s degree in nuclear non -proliferation.” F.M.D,

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 17, 2021 3:31 pm

Thanks ML.
I reckon this will be the last season.
No Malory Archer after this.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 17, 2021 3:33 pm

Geological Indicators of Large Tsunami in Australia

Interesting paper, Duncanm. Good to see the ARC small grants being put to better use than we often see. The findings just make you cross your fingers and hope that this is not the century for another meteorite or undersea collapse. At least we have some idea of the geological coastal past on this girt-by-sea continent. Like Ice Ages, there’s an inevitability there, and coming much faster, but hey, carpe diem.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 17, 2021 3:34 pm

Two more regional NSW lockdowns will enter lockdown just a day after another two were put under stay at home orders last night.

The Hilltops local government area, which encompasses Young in south-western NSW, and the Glen Innes council, in the state’s north, will go into lockdown for seven days from 6pm tonight.

How can these communities survive these rolling lockdowns.

rosie
rosie
September 17, 2021 3:40 pm

Pope Francis has always been adamantly opposed to abortion; pointing out that all the organs, indeed every thing are present even at three weeks after conception, is neither heretical nor unscientific. Unless you are uncharitablely reading in that he thinks DNA is not present before three weeks.
He was pointing out that abortion was murder even so close to the time of conception.
Two links
the transcript of what he said

George Weigel in an essay published on 14 July 2021 on Pope Francis and abortion.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 17, 2021 3:44 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
September 17, 2021 at 3:33 pm

Below the cliffs at HMAS Watson there are substantial boulders coughed up by the sea.

srr
srr
September 17, 2021 3:48 pm

““Pick up any embryology textbook for medical students,” the pontiff continued. “By the third week after conception, all the organs are already there, all of them, even the DNA … It’s a human life!””

Catholic — Headlines — September 16th, 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1CxRHIhHuE

Sep 16, 2021
Church Militant

‘Pope Francis is spurring [?] bishops not to excommunicate fake catholic politicians over abortion … it would be too political.’

Indolent
Indolent
September 17, 2021 3:52 pm

Struth was talking about facts above.

Here are some

This is the U.S., but is it any different here? It seems to me that your health is bottom of the agenda, if it’s on it at all.

Roger
Roger
September 17, 2021 3:57 pm

Whilst I applaud the sub purchase, and the move to nuclear, this is a move to defend a nation that he has allowed to be torn into it’s various components, by State Premiers.

While I don’t have much time for Morrison, he didn’t frame the Constitution or write the various HC judgements that underpin the Premiers’ powers. Australia has always been a federation of states which retained some degree of sovereignty over their own affairs. Hence they have retained their own governors, parliaments, borders, flags, etc.. The last 18 months have been a practical education in that hitherto neglected fact for many. Federation didn’t legally dissolve the states; rather, it transferred certain clearly delineated powers of the states to the newly formed Commonwealth.

The blame for our present situation in the first instance, then, needs to be placed squarely at the feet of the state premiers, who have used poorly drafted public health emergency powers as a pretext to terrorise citizens (mostly their minds, but soemtimes also physically) and strengthen their own power bases instead of acting reasonably in the common good (it’s a strange thing to find yourself in agreement with Waleed Ali).

Morrison does own the national cabinet, though. And he has been too weak in acceding to the premiers’ requests for financial assistance to maintain their lockdowns. No doubt political imperatives rather than principle explain that. The so-called vaccine passport is a terrible, devisive decision straight out of John Howard’s playbook. I hope it fails. I shall not be giving the Liberals my primary vote at the next election for that among many reasons.

We need a day of reckoning for all of this. A settling of accounts. If not, they’ll do it again.

srr
srr
September 17, 2021 3:58 pm

The DNA of the unique, God created individual human being, exists at conception.

Dragging in the, ‘3 weeks for organs to form’, is dragging in the, “it’s only a clump of cells”, lie that got a world of Catholics to support abortions.

The politicians he’s telling bishops not to excommunicate are even way past the, “clump of cells” lie, right up to supporting After Birth “abortions”, aka Infanticide.

Roger
Roger
September 17, 2021 4:00 pm

I forgot the quarantine debacle – Morrison owns that.

rosie
rosie
September 17, 2021 4:04 pm

The Church’s position on abortion hasn’t moved an iota.
Only the uncharitable and/or malicious would claim otherwise.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 17, 2021 4:05 pm

One of Australia’s most notorious gang rapists will be RELEASED into the community in weeks – two decades after his crimes appalled the nation

Notorious Sydney gang rapist Mohammed Skaf will leave prison next month
Skaf, now aged 38, spent two decades in jail after convicted of series or rapes
First became eligible for release on parole in 2018; now granted strict parole
Will be subject to 24-hour monitoring and released no later than October 8

Daily Mail

rosie
rosie
September 17, 2021 4:08 pm

Rupie posted this at Adam’s a couple of weeks ago and in light of the submarine announcement by Joe Biden I thought people might like to read it, if they didn’t see it first time around.

how China overreached in Australia, John Lee at the Hudson Institute

rosie
rosie
September 17, 2021 4:12 pm

Roger
Morrison was indeed foolish to devolve that responsibility to the states.
Would he have had any control over people being forced to quarantine to move between states, or even because they had been potentially exposed to covid though?

Tom
Tom
September 17, 2021 4:13 pm

What we have , unfortunately, is a generation of trusters, who , coming from a high trust Christian ethical society, now find themselves in a godless , evil, socialist tyranny, but just can’t believe that everything they are being fed is bullshit.

+1,000,000

As someone who, if only briefly, lived in the USA, I find the trust in government of Australians — fully revealed to me only in the past two years — is lemming-like and terrifying.

Because the founding of the USA was an act of liberation from colonial tyranny, its Constitution is primarily about protecting the individual from government overreach — an utterly alien concept in Australia, where shoppers rush to unload their personal data into government/big tech monitors via QR code stations in shopping centres..

It's Remarkable
It’s Remarkable
September 17, 2021 4:13 pm

Indolentsays:
September 17, 2021 at 2:53 pm
Here’s one person for whom Ivermectin worked

Yep. And among the comments are some suggesting it is used frequently in hospitals. Similar to what I would not be surprised happens here, where some suggestion is that vaccinated people with Covid get IVM while the unvaccinated heathen are denied any treatment if they have the Covid. See this (middle video):
https://disq.us/url?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reignitedemocracyaustralia.com.au%2Fmembers%2Ftruthagainsttheworld%2Fvideos%2F%3AOXALALM5FDDYUucdurKylcImEPs&cuid=3812682

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 17, 2021 4:18 pm

I find the trust in government of Australians ……………… is lemming-like and terrifying.

It is terrifying.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 17, 2021 4:20 pm

Below the cliffs at HMAS Watson there are substantial boulders coughed up by the sea.

Nah.
Those are just large Bristol Cities on the naked sunbathers.

twostix
twostix
September 17, 2021 4:26 pm

Two more regional NSW lockdowns will enter lockdown just a day after another two were put under stay at home orders last night.

The Hilltops local government area, which encompasses Young in south-western NSW, and the Glen Innes council, in the state’s north, will go into lockdown for seven days from 6pm tonight.

Everyone gets a taste of it. Everyone must be ‘blooded’.

People think they can flee to the countryside and escape the government’s reach on this stuff, but no, nobody will be free. They subdued the cities, now they’re turning to the countryside.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 17, 2021 4:28 pm

But yes, the timing of the announcement has been felicitous indeed for Morrison.

More felicitous for the Biden Administration. AUKUS has significantly papered over the Afghanistan debacle – and advanced the US foreign policy position on China.

It’s instructive that China’s official and shrill semi-official English language public response has focussed on:

1) the strategic implications for Running Dog Australia and a pointed dismissal of any possible normal relations with the Morrison Administration;

2) concern that other middle powers will also want nuclear boats (Hi Japan, S Korea, and India).

But it hasn’t included any reference to ‘after Afghanistan, who could trust the US as an ally’.

The answer might be worrying for Team Xi.

srr
srr
September 17, 2021 4:28 pm

Oh for Father’s sake, Bergoglio even jump’s from, ‘it’s too political to refuse communion to pro-abortionists’, to it being like “witch hunts” and ‘slitting throats’.

This man is as worm tongued as his fans who propagandise for politics over truth.

Mind you, “This is a working translation of a rough Italian transcription.”, is also a typical Vatican News, built in, ‘get out of gaol, free’ card, that in this case doesn’t even care to clarify which words are actual quotes of Bergoglio’s and which are simply sulfuric stinking smoke screens from hades.
https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2021-09/pope-abortion-is-murder-the-church-must-be-compassionate.html

But that’s cool, just an annual reminder not to waste my time with links propagandists are to cunning to quote in full.

srr
srr
September 17, 2021 4:29 pm

Oh for Father’s sake, Bergoglio even jump’s from, ‘it’s too political to refuse communion to pro-abortionists’, to it being like “witch hunts” and ‘slitting throats’.

This man is as worm tongued as his fans who propagandise for politics over truth.

Mind you, “This is a working translation of a rough Italian transcription.”, is also a typical Vatican News, built in, ‘get out of gaol, free’ card, that in this case doesn’t even care to clarify which words are actual quotes of Bergoglio’s and which are simply sulfuric stinking smoke screens from hades.
https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2021-09/pope-abortion-is-murder-the-church-must-be-compassionate.html

But that’s cool, just an annual reminder not to waste my time with links propagandists are to cunning to quote in full.

rosie
rosie
September 17, 2021 4:31 pm

Much better to march around with your unmasked bigotry on display.

twostix
twostix
September 17, 2021 4:33 pm

There’s obviously a action plan for this stuff.

0-50%-> rolling lockdowns of the capital city
50% -> lockdown city hard until 80%
60% -> broaden lockdowns to regional areas
65% -> lockdown a rural area – introduce rural to the concept
70% -> lockdown more rural areas

etc, etc.

twostix
twostix
September 17, 2021 4:35 pm

Did Biden really call Morrison “that guy downunder”??

P
P
September 17, 2021 4:39 pm

Did Biden really call Morrison “that guy downunder”??

Did Biden really call Morrison “that guy downunder”??

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 17, 2021 4:51 pm

Those are just large Bristol Cities on the naked sunbathers.

/Numberwang scouring beachcams increasing….

Judge Dredd
Judge Dredd
September 17, 2021 5:02 pm

I didn’t knw the Cat was back. Glad it is, and happy to be here!
Now let’s continue publishing posts on how wicked and corrupt this clown-world is quickly becoming.
Bringing Truth to light is very important right now

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 17, 2021 5:04 pm

Anyone seen my camels nose?
I cant find my camels nose outside the tent.

Push to make sexual consent education compulsory in Australian curriculum to stem assaults

Stephanie* was only in her mid-teens when her older and more experienced boyfriend pushed her to watch porn and perform “increasingly demeaning” sex acts.

“He was very pushy,” Stephanie said.

“I didn’t know what was going on. I was never taught about consent at school.”

Hmmm yeeeessss school is the exact place we should have kids taught about sexual behavior.

Sexual assault survivors and advocates say consent education needs to be compulsory, explicitly about intimate relationships and taught much earlier in all Australian schools.

And with the Australian curriculum undergoing its once-in-a-six-year review, they believe the opportunity for change is now.

Whom ever knew sexual assault had advocates? Great editorial oversight ABCcess.

In February 2021, then-university student Chanel Contos asked on Instagram, “have you or has anyone close to you ever been sexually assaulted by someone who went to a single sex school in Sydney?”

In the six months since then, her website, “Teach Us Consent”, has received more than 6,000 testimonies and about 43,000 people have signed her Petition For Consent To Be Included In Australian Schools’ Sex Education Earlier.

Somebody put a sexual topic on reddit and asked for stories… This is the “Dear Penthouse, I never thought it could happen to me” level of research.

“I really thought that sexual assault looks like somebody jumping out from behind a bush in a park and sexually assaulting you,” she said.

“I didn’t know sexual assault could look like somebody’s pushing you and pushing you and pushing you until you change your mind.

“And just because you’ve agreed in the end doesn’t mean that you’ve consented because in your mind it is still no, you still don’t want to do it. But you just feel like you have to do it because they’re hounding you for it.”

I wonder if they can move onto vaccination consent for politicians and Chief health officers??
And in relation to the last line, you continue to say no….

“Children as young as 10 are getting their sex education from mainstream pornography, the vast majority of which depicts aggressive, non-consensual, violent, and degrading behaviour, and we’re not stepping in to provide them with a reality check,” Ms Foster said.

“Through our inaction, we’re putting young people in harm’s way and stealing their futures in the process.”

aggressive, non-consensual, violent, and degrading behaviour

Given at least 2 of those criteria are actually illegal to depict then wouldnt the answer be to report that material?

Dr Fisher said teaching sexual education and consent in Australian schools remained a “mixed bag”, with states often unable to mandate it in private schools.

“We have upwards of half of our kids going to private and Catholic schools,” he said.

” … Then who’s holding [the private schools] to account to make sure every Australian is getting consent education?

The state school mongs havent worked out why people choose to put their kids in private education.

And finally whats the example they give of why teachers should be teaching consent in schools??

Penny* was not even a teenager when a teacher started taking a special interest in her.

“I was someone who had a rough home life, and he played on those vulnerabilities,” she said.

“He started contacting me out of hours, taking me out to lunch. Helping me with my homework.”
Penny said her predator became almost like a father figure. But he had other things in mind.

“At first, it was minor things, like kissing on the head,” she said.

“Then, when I was older, it progressed to touching and groping my bottom and breasts.

“The thing about grooming is he had coerced me into thinking that it was normal, and it was OK.”

Penny said consent was not something she heard spoken about at school.

“I don’t actually remember knowing the word consent until I was maybe in like 11 or 12,” she said.

“Consent is the awareness of your own power over yourself. You have a right to say no.

“I did say no in the end. It took a while. And, honestly, that knowledge came from television shows and movies because we weren’t taught it.”

FFS the ABCcess had devolved so far even their slanted hit pieces are monuments to own goal idiocy..

calli
calli
September 17, 2021 5:08 pm

Well fisked TFM.

10/10

Delta A
Delta A
September 17, 2021 5:14 pm

Below the cliffs at HMAS Watson there are substantial boulders coughed up by the sea.

We have seen similar on our trips around Australia.

Most surprising was finding acres of seashells scattered atop the towering (and beautiful) Bunda Cliffs on the Nullabor. These cliffs are up to 120 mtrs above sea level.

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
September 17, 2021 5:16 pm

aggressive, non-consensual, violent, and degrading behaviour
Or, as we call it, Game101.
Play on, playas
??

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
September 17, 2021 5:16 pm

I’m in?!
Noice

Gab
Gab
September 17, 2021 5:16 pm

Pope Francis has always been adamantly opposed to abortion; pointing out that all the organs, indeed every thing are present even at three weeks after conception, is neither heretical nor unscientific.

Uh-huh. However, he’s all for people taking abortion-tainted vaccines.

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
September 17, 2021 5:20 pm

Told you the CFMEU boys were a legit street army!
Zero Fucks given today.
VikPol choose discretion over valour.
As they will tomorrow.
C’mon, pussies!!!

Mater
September 17, 2021 5:20 pm

Morrison does own the national cabinet, though. And he has been too weak in acceding to the premiers’ requests for financial assistance to maintain their lockdowns.

Yes Roger, this is the element of Morrison’s performance that I am critical of. I, in no way, absolve the Premiers of the vast majority of the blame here, but the people who are suffering are looking to their PM for the slightest spark of hope.

We see none. What we see is someone who appears to be of similar mind in most accounts, even if he’s not.

Whether he has the power to influence state restrictions is slightly irrelevant. Vocally standing up for the rights of his countrymen, and giving them at least the illusion that they belong to a single nation, would give them something. Vocal support of wanting to get back to pre-2020 life, would be better.

Everywhere one looks, a politician (no matter the flavour) wants to push some shit in your arm, and fill your future with QR code’s and random police checks.

Nah, Morrison’s not a leaders bootlaces.

As for me aligning with Waleed Aly, any alignment stops at the issues I highlighted in a recent post.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
September 17, 2021 5:21 pm

Delta A says:
September 17, 2021 at 5:14 pm
Most surprising was finding acres of seashells scattered atop the towering (and beautiful) Bunda Cliffs on the Nullabor. These cliffs are up to 120 mtrs above sea level.

Remnants of the inland sea that existed in central Australia?
Back in the early 1970s at Quilpie during the floods, I remember seeing small dusky brown crabs swimming around in the water.

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
September 17, 2021 5:29 pm

https://twitter.com/scorcherzz/status/1438651725112479749?s=19
Westside Place, smoko today, view from the building.
#streetarmy
#YourmoveVikPol

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 17, 2021 5:29 pm

TailgunneR

You still a ward of the state or back in work?
If you have an MC license and a couple of machinery tickets the only questions you will get in WA is “when can you start”…

Indolent
Indolent
September 17, 2021 5:29 pm

There’s obviously a action plan for this stuff.

Exactly. Nothing to do with the virus. All about the experimental drug uptake.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
September 17, 2021 5:35 pm

The ABC never changes.

A story today with a breathless heading about a private school teacher arrested with vile stuff involving minors on his computer. They would never flag a government school teacher in that fashion: they probably wouldn’t report the charges at all.

And here is the background at the end of their latest piece of outrage on the Porter blind trust brouhaha”

he former attorney-general sued the ABC and journalist Louise Milligan in March over a story about an historical rape allegation that had been made against an unnamed minister.

Mr Porter revealed himself as the subject of the allegations but strenuously denied any wrongdoing.

Months later, he decided to discontinue the defamation action against the ABC and Ms Milligan.

No damages were paid following the settlement of the case, although the ABC paid $100,000 in mediation costs.

Notice that they don’t mention that, as part of the settlement, they conceded that (1) they did not men to imply that Porter committed the offenes (pull the other one!); (2) they could not prove the assertions to whether the criminal or the (lesser) civil standard of proof. They make it sound as if Porter just conceded.

calli
calli
September 17, 2021 5:42 pm

From Gunner’s link.

Apologies if it’s already been posted.

Tragedy

*sob*

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 17, 2021 5:49 pm

Hang on. Bum sex is compulsory now. I knew I should have been paying more attention to this stuff. Oh well here we go … . Can I see you vaccine passport please?

srr
srr
September 17, 2021 5:50 pm

Yes, the Police respectfully letting the Unionists get on with blocking roads, cars & trams, (while harassing Jews going about their lawful business – even under the covid rules – with mounted patrols), sends yet another message that doesn’t equate with justice –

“Victorian construction workers protest against government restrictions and mandates

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3MjAj_SNRo

Sep 17, 2021
Real Rukshan

Highlights from Victorian construction workers protesting on Elizabeth Street, Melbourne. The protest was a part of a series of demonstrations by construction workers in response to new workplace restrictions.

These street lunchroom protests are a being claimed as a coordinated action by unions in response to restrictions on lunchrooms, so therefore the workers are only protesting during their defined break periods by having lunch/smoko on the street.

Union leaders have said these are not protests, and are just workers having their lunch on the streets because of the inability to work within the CHO directions. The actions have caused disruptions to the road and transport network within the city and outer suburbs.

Speaking to people from these worksites off camera, they have a mix of views and concerns, mandatory vaccination is one of them (however the unions don’t publicly support them on this matter).

Victorian workers have only a few days left until they will no longer be allowed on worksites without providing proof they have had at least 1 dose of the vaccine.

Some workers claim they are also protesting against the unions for not backing their workforce against government overreach into their ability to make free informed decisions about their decision to vaccinate.

Sources:https://www.3aw.com.au/construction-workers-block-roads-across-melbourne-with-tables-and-chairs/

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=HSWEB_WRE170_a&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.heraldsun.com.au%2Fcoronavirus%2Fbacklash-over-mandatory-jab-rule-for-construction-workers%2Fnews-story%2F15ad8394b7caf5d7cf56c219c6a8ef98&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=dynamic-cold-test-noscore&V21spcbehaviour=append

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 17, 2021 5:52 pm

LOL. Socialist Macron says he was stabbed in the back by socialist Biden!

France demand answers from PM Scott Morrison after joining US, UK in new nuclear submarine deal

Mr Le Drian also accused US President Joe Biden of stabbing France in the back and acting like his predecessor, Donald Trump, whose time as president was characterised by tense relationships with European allies.

“It’s a stab in the back. We had established a trusting relationship with Australia, and this trust was betrayed,” he said.

“This brutal, unilateral and unpredictable decision reminds me a lot of what Mr Trump used to do.

“I am angry and bitter. This isn’t done between allies.”

Cheese-eating surrender monkeys are unhappy!

rosie
rosie
September 17, 2021 5:53 pm

I assume people are aware that many childhood vaccines are abortion tainted and the church’s position on the use of said vaccines has been in place since at least 2005, when Pope Benedict XVI was Pope.
And of course Pope Francis, Pope Benedict and Cardinal Pell among many others are vaccinated against covid.
my Catholic Doctor with a link to the Pontifical Mission for Life’s 2005 document ‘moral reflections on vaccines derived from aborted human foetuses’

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 17, 2021 5:57 pm

Has Planet Cornelius commented on the authorised street tea party in Melbourne yet?
For an obese chap, he’s mastered the art of turning himself inside & out.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 17, 2021 5:58 pm

“HMAS Donger.
HMAS Mutton Gun.
HMAS Todger.
HMAS Trouser Snake.
HMAS Schlong.
HMAS Pork Sword.”
*****
Sancho, was HMAS Beef Bayonet too top secret to be on the list?

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 17, 2021 5:58 pm

Sorry, unauthorised tea party.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 17, 2021 5:59 pm

Has Planet Cornelius commented on the authorised street tea party in Melbourne yet?
For an obese chap, he’s mastered the art of turning himself inside & out.
*****
BTW, is there anyone in Victoria who doesn’t think Cornelius is the reincarnation of Herman Goering?
Or is that unfair to Goering, who actually earned his array of medal ribbons in combat before becoming a Nazi?

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
September 17, 2021 6:00 pm

H B Bear says:
September 17, 2021 at 5:49 pm
Hang on. Bum sex is compulsory now. I knew I should have been paying more attention to this stuff.

HB Bear – you’re a bit naive for a guy who walks around with no pants on….

Winston Smith
September 17, 2021 6:00 pm

Sancho Panzer:

Almost as importantly, this is a sign of a minister willing to grab his portfolio by the scruff of the neck and tell the bureacrats he is makes the decisions and they implement them.

It shows you a Minister who took on the job to get stuff done, not someone who wanted to be a prizewinner.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 17, 2021 6:01 pm

All the good tea parties are unauthorised.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 17, 2021 6:03 pm

Melbourne today : Hey bro, want some Earl Grey ?
Response : Nah maaaaaate, English breakfast here.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 17, 2021 6:03 pm

HB Bear – you’re a bit naive for a guy who walks around with no pants on….

I wouldn’t read too much into that.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 17, 2021 6:04 pm

“HMAS Donger.
HMAS Mutton Gun.
HMAS Todger.
HMAS Trouser Snake.
HMAS Schlong.
HMAS Pork Sword.”
*******
“Submerging the warship” is now officially a euphemism.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 17, 2021 6:06 pm

Today in Melbourne, did VicPol:
1) Tell the brothers to put their masks up between sips?
2) Snatch a mobile phone off anyone (that footage still enrages me)?
3) Stomp on a brothers head while other VicPol was holding him down?
4) Make any arrests?

The answer of course is no.
VicPol are the biggest blouses in the country.

calli
calli
September 17, 2021 6:07 pm

I understand that, Rosie. The Beloved, a fine Christian man, is vaccinated with AZ. Not offered a choice, and suffering from a variety of co-morbidities, he made a decision to go ahead.

His conscience was not exercised in the acceptance of the vaccine. Mine, however, has been. I don’t know why this is so, but there it is. Perhaps it has something to do with my resistance to submission in previous tests of faith. Everyone’s walk is different.

And it gave him an opportunity to talk about faith and the vaccine with someone today, quite unexpected, but he was ready. Mysterious ways they say. 🙂

rosie
rosie
September 17, 2021 6:09 pm

I absolutely respect that calli.
Both your and your husband’s decisions are absolutely moral.

calli
calli
September 17, 2021 6:11 pm

Melbourne tradies have “tea rooms”.

Sydney tradies have “site sheds”.

Sez it all. 😀

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
September 17, 2021 6:12 pm

https://twitter.com/paul_dowsley/status/1438697431093243908?s=19
VikPol Friday morning shift.
Tidak,bagus
Max Rockatansky’s day off. He’ll be refreshed for tomorrow?
Fukn hope so.
Bring all your mates, Maximillian!
You’ll need them, plus more
The time for Ghandi-ness is OVER.
We fight

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
September 17, 2021 6:16 pm

Lol, we still call them “the sheds” down here in Yarragrad, calli.
Smartass ??

calli
calli
September 17, 2021 6:16 pm

Gunner.

New Fred ———->

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
September 17, 2021 6:20 pm

There’s an unofficial workers March from Trades Hall to the Freedom Rally tomorrow too.
Hopefully it’s gonna get messy.
I’ll be on hand with my phone+crossbow+fists&steelcaps.
Maximum Leader Dan had me pegged in his presser.
“Coming in to commit violence”
The revolution is here.
Hehe, excellent

Gab
Gab
September 17, 2021 6:30 pm

I assume people are aware that many childhood vaccines are abortion tainted and the church’s position on the use of said vaccines has been in place since at least 2005, when Pope Benedict XVI was Pope.

Then your assumption would be wrong. We cannot reverse the past but now that we have knowledge that these vaccines are abortion-tainted, we can choose to follow our conscience.

And of course Pope Francis, Pope Benedict and Cardinal Pell among many others are vaccinated against covid.

And? So what?
We all will one day stand before God and be judged.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 17, 2021 6:41 pm

This is an Old Fred.

It has Ceased To Be.

cohenite
September 17, 2021 7:02 pm

Delta A says:
September 17, 2021 at 5:14 pm
Most surprising was finding acres of seashells scattered atop the towering (and beautiful) Bunda Cliffs on the Nullabor. These cliffs are up to 120 mtrs above sea level.

Remnants of the inland sea that existed in central Australia?
Back in the early 1970s at Quilpie during the floods, I remember seeing small dusky brown crabs swimming around in the water.

There used to be a site called Sahul Time from Monash uni which was an interactive map based around Australia where you could see sea level from the past; so 23000 yrs ago sea level was 135 meters BELOW what it is today. 6 million years ago it was 110 meters ABOVE what it is today. The site had some problems and is being redeveloped; this is a typical image:

https://temporalearth.org/about/sahul-time/

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 17, 2021 7:43 pm

Most surprising was finding acres of seashells scattered atop the towering (and beautiful) Bunda Cliffs on the Nullabor. These cliffs are up to 120 mtrs above sea level.

Planetary surfaces can be very dangerous places.

Armadillo
Armadillo
September 17, 2021 7:44 pm

This Fred ain’t dead until we vote on it.

Mail in ballots won’t be accepted.

Old bloke
Old bloke
September 17, 2021 8:12 pm

feelthebern says:
September 17, 2021 at 2:35 pm

Why doesn’t VicPol have the water cannons out clearing the unions off the streets today?

Were the unions involved in the protest or was the street smoko break a spontaneous event? I thought that the Big Unions were onboard with Big Business and Big Government in this fascist takeover.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
September 18, 2021 12:24 am

‘Dillo, what about late tranches at 3:00 AM?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 18, 2021 7:51 am

Notice that they don’t mention that, as part of the settlement, they conceded that (1) they did not men to imply that Porter committed the offenes (pull the other one!); (2) they could not prove the assertions to whether the criminal or the (lesser) civil standard of proof. They make it sound as if Porter just conceded.

He should look into threatening them with another lawsuit – by omission they are suggesting exactly that which they had to retract already.

If he doesn’t then the next person they target will have to do so, as well as repeat the preceding legal rigmarole.

Porter was targeted because of his party and profile. The ABC backed down because of his profile and his being part of the government. The next person they target will not have those protections – it will be one person against a $1.1 billion slavering mongrel.

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