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John H.
I mentioned this some time ago on Snic’s Cat – it’s ok to cut and paste swathes of medical jargon – if your audience have similar backgrounds.
When some non-engineering person asks me to explain a mechanical engineering concept, I do so in a manner in which my audience will understand. I do not use language / terminology that only an experienced engineer would understand.
The vast majority of your readers here do not have advanced medical / clinical training & knowledge.
Would you please be able to add simple non-medical explanations / footnotes to the texts you drop in here?
Thanks
they sometimes refer to Melbourne as the New Hong Kong?
I would expect that to be the case – the CCP haven’t spent fortunes buying politicians around the world for nothing. .
They want our farms & mines – they do not want the current Australian people.
Even Tibet has had a slow population replacement of the native Tibetans with the Han Chinese.
Imagine how quick that process would be if the CCP was free to just shoot everyone.
Chairman Mao murdered around 70 million of his own people – 25 million here would just be a formality.
Tony I was responding to Gilas who could could understand the jargon. Often I do simplify but Gilas is familiar with the material and it would take far too many words to provide a simple explanation of those immunology concepts.
Fat Tony says:
October 7, 2021 at 12:08 am
Agreed, for most of us or at least for me, it’s a waste of pixels, way over my understanding, scroll material, as if wasn’t enough of it already.
Haven’t seen it mentioned on the news despite it being a fairly newsworthy event.
Brief mentions here and there online, and I overheard a Teev headline about the deceased allegedly predicting her own death earlier this evening…
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John H. says:
October 7, 2021 at 12:17 am
I know you were responding to Gilas in that instance, but have a look back at the various posts of yours over the years & they are usually highly medical/technical.
If you want to convince people of your point-of-view (or even to know what it is), then please add the plain English versions.
Thanks, Tony
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Vax your children! The hospitals are filled with young people! 99.9999% of the population is vaccinated! Covid – killer of youth! Virologists, epidemiologists and the AMA show the science – everyone hates anti-vaxxers! Is your toddler ready for his/her/their booster shot – yes s/he/they is/are! Jabber jabber jabber jabber jabber.
It is incessant and unrelenting. If we get through this, one of the first orders of business will be to dynamite Ultimo.
Gabor says:
October 7, 2021 at 12:23 am
Gabor – I’ve got degrees in engineering & management, am an RPEQ (Registered Professional Engineer Qld) and on the NER (National Engineering Register).
I work full-time for one company in my field and run a small engineering consultancy business on the side (in my spare time). I’m 68 years old.
None of this helps with understanding medical jargon.
DaFisk is now in da house.
Fair point. I’ll avoid the subjects unless basic and can be simplified. However the reality is complex subject matter when simplified misleads. There’s no getting around that so perhaps better I just let it all go.
Where is fisky? Bring him forward!
Tony, it goes like this.
OCO, you sound like Bane.
John H. says:
October 7, 2021 at 12:43 am
Fair point. I’ll avoid the subjects unless basic and can be simplified. However the reality is complex subject matter when simplified misleads. There’s no getting around that so perhaps better I just let it all go.
Or you could try and see how you go. People who really understand a topic/principle, can usually make it understandable to the lay person.
I, and many others here, would really like to be able to see the point you’re trying to make but we don’t have the background.
You would be able to get discussions going which would give you the opportunity to make your point more clearly – these discussions can go on for hours if necessary. (You’ve seen the bullshit topics that can keep going for days….)
And this topic of “vaccines” is very important now. Currently, the only way I would get one is if they forcibly hold me down and give it to me, followed by me grabbing whatever is at hand to (NADT)….
And it threatens to tear this country apart. One third of Qld police to be sacked because they refuse to get it. Plus others – all to be replaced by the “ünemployed” or immigrants???
So please, make your case – if you don’t think this topic is worth your effort and time, what would be??
thanks again
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Chinese Air Forces- Flaming Dragon or a baby Tiger?
Building ~100 aircraft a year. Modernising older frames. An emphasis on anti-ship missiles. Primarily aimed at defense(limited range). They are making us live in interesting times.
We cannot know the true capabilities of most modern forces. A war would help clear that up.
Johannes Leak.
Mark Knight.
Warren Brown.
David Rowe.
Warren Brown #2.
Matt Pritchett.
Scott Clissold.
Graeme Bandeira.
Christian Adams.
Paul Thomas.
Peter Brookes.
Michael Ramirez.
A.F. Branco.
Al Goodwyn.
Gary Varvel.
Tom Stiglich.
Lisa Benson.
Ben Garrison.
David Limbrick Tim Quilty ldp Victoria full vaccinated but won’t hand over medical data in solidarity
apparently Kyle (I’m not an anti Catholic
bigot) Sandilands has ‘banned’ Premier Perrottet from his show.
I don’t know how many times in 2020 I saw frothing at the mouth democrats on twitter blame President Trump personally for American covid deaths even though there were no vaccines.
it’s different when they do it.
Add to the list of take overs of Australian land via Farms Mining and suburban housing and University infiltrations add the promotion by the ABC of Childrens TV programs stand out being Hoopla Doopla and LUI Lou Bei getting us ready for the Chinese life style.
When some non-engineering person asks me to explain a mechanical engineering concept, I do so in a manner in which my audience will understand. I do not use language / terminology that only an experienced engineer would understand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmHl7hKlVj4
Speak to me as you would a young child or a golden retriever.
Margin Call was one of the best financial markets movies.
I didn’t much like The Big Short because I’d read the book a couple a of times & thought the movie didn’t get it.
Another Michael Lewis adaptation, Money Ball, was a great movie, but was a lot different from the book.
His best book in recent times was Flash Boys.
If you trusted any law maker or financial regulator before you read that, you won’t afterwards.
Unless you’re a retard.
Dave Chappelle on team terf
Sweden & Denmark halt the use of Moderna for people under 30.
Overnight Matt Taibbi has released a column on the politics of molnupiravir.
It could have been released 12 months ago under emergency authorisation.
How many 100’s of thousands of people have died globally because it wasn’t.
It’s paywalled, but it’s dynamite so Taibbi will most likely unlock it at some stage.
Sounds like fine muckraking, Bern.
Not at all, Dot.
He’s saying if it wasn’t for the full court press from an Obama holdover, the msm, the Dems in the Senate, the now Merck drug could have been available during 2020.
Are you kidding me, my fellow droog?
It is some of the best stuff that gets posted here.
Go down the rabbit hole. Strap yourself in like Alex to Beethoven’s Fifth. Buy some books like Chemistry or Biochemistry for Dummies.
Don’t forget the adderall Dot.
Never forget the adderall.
Why?
This seems like an admission they are worried about fertility.
No, I can’t show you a link between COVID vaccines and infertility.
What makes me suspicious is a flood of news articles and press releases in the English speaking world from late August 2021 to early September 2021 reassuring people there is no link or mechanism.
But COVID can cause infertility. Released around the same time with idiotic explained etc.
So why do the vaccines have side effects and adverse events? Is it because they mimic the virus?
I find it hard to believe the vaccines mimic the virus in every way but one.
Not sure Dot.
I read “health” issues.
explained –> explainers
I loved Heinlein and he peaked with ‘Stranger’ and ‘Time enough for Love’, I didn’t find him until I was around 16 (1972), read as much of his work that I could find. I gave up on him with ‘The Cat Who Walks Through Walls’, I abandoned that book halfway through. Anyway I found a heap of Heinlein audiobooks on youtube, lots of early stuff, his middle period and the later bad stuff. You can get a youtube to mp3 converter easily so I’ve converted most to audiofiles and listening to them, I’m up to ‘Stranger’ and will keep going, I’m hoping that the later stuff will be better in audio.
The Bret Weinstein work on how the ovaries are a kind of sump for components of mRNA vaccines should have been global news.
If I had working ovaries & planned to use them, there would be zero chance of me taking the mRNA treatments.
But I don’t have ovaries even though my testicles sometimes identify as ovaries.
Imagine if in June 2020, the FDA approved the now Merck anti viral treatment.
If would have been in production immediately with punters having ready access to it in Sept/Oct.
How would the election panned out?
How would the annuity vaccine business model panned out?
Look. Here’s my position.
Vaccines have been great for humanity.
Their efficacy generally has however been overstated. A combination of modern sanitation,water purification, antibiotics, screening through pathology & medical imaging, vaccines, better hospital care, hygiene, epigenetics and nutrition (as well as natural selection through natural and genetic immunity) has relegated diseases to low priorities on developed countries.
The problem is, we are not being told the whole truth.
The Coronavirus vaccines might all work very well with very rare side effects.
It doesn’t matter if you are told 90% of the information and 10% is covered up.
You are being lied too, it is still fraudulent and it is not fully informed consent.
It is not for your own good, despite the best intentions of anyone who would say otherwise.
It is not for your own good, despite the best intentions of anyone who would say otherwise.
Agree and I seriously question is possibly endangering my health the price I have to pay for keeping my job.
As I said, if I decline to be ‘vaxinated’ or refuse to say either way, I imagine my employer will make me redundant.
High-profile real estate agent SACKED for posting ‘racist’ comment
The “racist” comment? Here:
Wow! Wanting to avoid Chicom imports is now “racist”. Fuck. Me. Dead. That should be national policy.
“jupessays:
October 7, 2021 at 6:51 am
High-profile real estate agent SACKED for posting ‘racist’ comment
The “racist” comment? Here:
The self-confessed ‘home gym enthusiast’ questioned the origins of a piece of workout equipment in a post to his personal Facebook page on Monday.
‘No Australia Made logo on this one, can I assume on this and price that it’s a Chinese import? Wanting to avoid Chinese imports if I can,’ he asked.
Wow! Wanting to avoid Chicom imports is now “racist”. Fuck. Me. Dead. That should be national policy.”
Indeed…but note the hypocrisy from our always sensitive progressive luvvies on Twitter.
Boycotting Chinese made goods = bad, racist
Boycotting Israeli made goods = good, not racist
“miltonfsays:
October 7, 2021 at 6:51 am
As I said, if I decline to be ‘vaxinated’ or refuse to say either way, I imagine my employer will make me redundant.”
We have had no vaccination directive from senior management. My immediate boss, on a call weeks ago, asked about our vaccination status and I declined to comment.
Bend over and get your CCP COVID swab, bigot!
The big sell out to the Chicoms really ramped up under Howard- he was even pushing yet another one of his ‘free trade’ agreements with them. How can you have free trade with a command economy? It was in 2006 that I noticed HPM 240V switched socket outlets were no longer Made in Australia. Just one example. Howard’s silence on the monstering of the Australian people by our miserable pollimuppetts says a great deal.
Whichever Cat posted the lactoferrin COVID research last night, many thanks.
“Real estate” is the magic phrase of course.
Don’t annoy your most lucrative customers.
Damn, I’m sick of people telling me that I do/have put more dangerous substances in my body than the vaccine.
I thought I was a bad dyslexic, but I’ve never spelt volition as compulsion.
World’s First Malaria Vaccine Gets WHO Backing for Sub-Saharan Africa
The World Health Organization recommended the widespread deployment of the world’s first malaria vaccine to young children in sub-Saharan Africa and other at-risk regions, hoping to revive the fight against the mosquito-borne illness that kills more than 400,000 people every year.
From the WSJ.
Paywalled.
We all know that ninety percent of the MSM is pure unadulterated leftist bile that actively engages in discrediting people to suit their political ideologies and narratives and the Australian Jewish News (AJN) is no different which is why I gave up buying it years ago. It stopped putting candle lighting times on the front page and instead started spruiking SSM and other progressive garbage. Anyway, occasionally I do glance at the AJN website and last night I opened the front page and the screaming headline is…
“Craig Kelly’s bizarre attack on Moriah
In an email to parents last week, Moriah vice-principal Roberta Goot said the college had been advised to gather information about vaccination statuses “to assist in the safe opening and operation of the college”.
Controversial MP Craig Kelly has launched a bizarre attack against Moriah College, describing its leaders as “brainwashed zealots” who “abuse human rights” for requesting the names and vaccination statuses of its students and family members.
The AJN has obtained screenshots of the comments by Kelly, posted on a chat group on Telegram, which attracted several antisemitic comments by fellow users.
In an email to parents last week, Moriah vice-principal Roberta Goot said the college had been advised by the Association of Independent Schools to gather information about vaccination statuses “to assist in the safe opening and operation of the college”.
Noting, “All information provided will be treated as confidential,” the college asked for the names, year groups and vaccination status of any student at Moriah College; the names and vaccination status “of all other members of your household aged 12 years and over”; and the names and vaccination status of “anyone else who is in regular contact with your children”.
This includes grandparents “who drop-off or collect children on a regular basis”.
“By providing this information you will help us to keep our college community safe. It will also assist us with the planning of events and activities, as we analyse the risk of inviting parents and family members onto campus,” Goot wrote.
The AJN understands supplying the information to the school is not compulsory. Several people have defended Moriah’s decision, writing, “Great initiative, I wish all schools will do this”, “Well done Moriah! They have the students’ wellbeing at heart”, and “Congratulations to Moriah College for leading the way.”
However, writing on encrypted messaging system Telegram, Kelly – a former Liberal MP who now leads the United Australia Party – said, “Those running Moriah College are brainwashed tin-hat wearing zealots. They are ignoring the science and following the superstition. They are abusing human rights.”
He went on to say that “whether you’ve been injected with any of the novel and experimental genetic agents or not injected, makes little difference to your chance of having COVID”.
He labelled vaccine passports as a “sham” and a “complete fraud”.
Kelly’s post attracted several angry comments, including a post stating “No Green Pass” featuring a swastika and the SS symbol.
Other comments included “Jew school, no surprises”, and “What is wrong with the Jewish community … Shame on them for being so ignorant again.”
In a statement to The AJN on Wednesday afternoon, Kelly said, “If any member of the public posts an antisemitic comment, as soon as I or my team are aware of it, it is deleted and the person blocked.”
Moriah has been approached for comment. “
So Kelly is their bogeyman. The whole piece is designed to label and smear Kelly by association, it’s a hatchet job, with the descriptors of Kelly as “controversial”, all designed to smear him. Kelly is 100% right about Moriah. Craig Kelly has long been a supporter of the Australian Jewish community and of Israel. Yet again we see a leftist media outlet operating as smear merchants to undermine and ridicule someone who’s views they don’t like as well as trying to paint Kelly as a supporter of anti-Semites because others make anti-Semitic comments. Lots of stories in various media outlets, on social media and on websites attract anti-Semitic comments.
Gaslighting.
If you go to the wiki you’ll see what the problem was. A wannabe whistleblower against Trump.
The guy kicked up a big stink at the time and then vanished when it became quite clear he was a looney lefty with TDS and had been rejected totally appropriately. He then re-emerged when Biden then picked him for the bat crud task force, which is another tell.
“miltonfsays:
October 7, 2021 at 7:02 am
The big sell out to the Chicoms really ramped up under Howard- he was even pushing yet another one of his ‘free trade’ agreements with them. How can you have free trade with a command economy? It was in 2006 that I noticed HPM 240V switched socket outlets were no longer Made in Australia. Just one example. Howard’s silence on the monstering of the Australian people by our miserable pollimuppetts says a great deal.”
Yes…but to be fair Milton, John Howard and others thought the Chinese political system would liberalise as they became more prosperous. Instead China has become more authoritarian and totalitarian. In hindsight it was a bad mistake but John Howard wasn’t alone.
I might add, I’m also sick of people (especially ex-servicemen) that I was forced to have vaccinations in the military, and asking what the difference is.
Well, you fucking brain dead morons:
1. I voluntarily joined the military knowing this to be the case.
2. What they gave me was fully approved.
3. The military is an organisation that can legally send you to your death, without legal recourse.
The military is one of the most tyrannical organisations on the planet. Servicemen live under this regime so that the remainder of society don’t have to.
Dickheads.
““Real estate” is the magic phrase of course.
Don’t annoy your most lucrative customers.”
Yep.
I 100% agree.
If it’s complex/technical – but boilerplate… then throw in a couple of paddle pop sticks for those of us in the deep end and take a smudge of time and link to it. Or link to YouTube lecture on the stuff.
You can do at least three links per post. If you need more – draft out the post into a series and number of them .
That way we all learn!
And yes – we need to understand this topic in particular… (And there is always the scroll button for those that don’t)
Please don’t stop!
Cassie, things may have changed, but I doubt it.
You have to go into to school to drop children off. It isn’t a matter of just pulling up at the gate and opening the car door. There is even a pin coded airlock with security for some sections.
We can guess why. Such is the state of our country.
Covid is the least of their concerns.
Exactly.
John H – keep it coming. Some of the best stuff posted here indeed.
My technical understanding of some of the discussed subject matter has gone kaBOOM over quite a bit of time after reading John H’s work. If it gets too technical to comprehend at first blush I do a little bit of side research so that I do understand it.
Don’t you fucking dare ‘give it all away’ because some engineer somewhere with a uni degree can’t work it out.
What has happened to this country?
Bloody hell, I used to walk a couple of blocks to kindy on my own. There was a park on the way from which magpies attacked me (probably in October).
My mum gave me a stick. She would probably be arrested in contemporary Australia.
Also understandable after 9/11, where Howard was staying in a hotel just down the road. W and his guys decided to try domino-effect democracy on Iraq to attempt to fix the underlying issue, with Howard closely in the loop. As we know it didn’t work. It’s very difficult to comprehend that some ideologies, like communism and Islam, are utterly unreformable and can only ever be contained. It’s a pretty drastic conclusion to reach, but Iraq, Afghanistan and China I think prove it now.
“You have to go into to school to drop children off. It isn’t a matter of just pulling up at the gate and opening the car door. There is even a pin coded airlock with security for some sections.”
I know that Calli…that security applies to every synagogue, Jewish community organisation and school…including pre-schools. I have the security code for my synagogue however I won’t be attending Shule for a long time. The massive security is due to threats from you know who….even at schools because if you remember what happened in Toulouse France back in 2012, many are quite content to murder Jewish children.
Cassie whether China became warm and fuzzy or not was not reason to hollow out our industrial base.
“My mum gave me a stick. She would probably be arrested in contemporary Australia.”
I got the wooden spoon.
You can’t “contain” China.
We’re importing it.
I might agree, except for the fact that he keep avoiding the obvious (and layman) question.
If (as he contends) no mechanism exists which might cause unexpected long term side effects originating from the vaccines, why has the TGA not given them Full Approval?
Why does the Full Approval process exist as a separate entity to the Provisional pathway?
Are they not the experts in this complex field?
John has answered every question about his posts, except the ones which are probably the most understandable to the everyday Joe.
If he can get his head out of the medical papers and put some rubber to the road, I’d appreciate his posts more.
“callisays:
October 7, 2021 at 7:55 am
You can’t “contain” China.
We’re importing it.”
Yep….even during our two years of Covid.
effect democracy on Iraq to attempt to fix the underlying issue
IMO that was just another war for the Washington War Machine. At the same time Blair was rubbing the right’s nose in diversity. Very democratic. Not.
As Bruce in WA pointed out upthread the West is importing Islam too.
Something is going to result from all this.
Pandemics of the mind exist, as well as pandemics of the body.
In all of history I think more people have been killed by the former than the latter.
LOL. Cheese-eating surrender monkey surrenders.
French ambassador to return to Canberra after submarine row
Yes. I love you if you agree with me, I hate you if you don’t. And that has to be agreement down to the finest minutiae, within a hair’s breadth.
It’s worse than cancer.
Perhaps I’m wrong, can anyone correct me? It seems to me that the commonwealth privacy laws serve your right to not divulge medical records and info to anyone, if you choose not to. So if say an employer demands to know if you’re vaxxed then is breaching those laws. So if you refuse to answer the question, citing medical privacy, what can the employer do? I suppose that he can either ignore the matter, take disciplinary action, stand you down with or without pay or sack you. In all cases except the first you can (I think) demand that the employer put it in writing, including the reasons for his actions. Further in all discussions with the employer you should be taking notes and if possible get the employer to initial the notes, if not note his refusal. I don’t know how this will end but just getting people to put things in writing is often enough to stop their actions and if they continue their refusal or the provided explanations will only assist you in any further actions, the lawyers will love the notes etc.
Poor sod. Whatever did he do to deserve that?
Or not
The political-media class has been at war with the Australian demos since 1974 when multiculturalism became official. If anything was a big eff u skips and new Australians that was.
This author is very earnest, but doesn’t get it.
https://gen.medium.com/young-american-men-are-facing-a-crisis-69e7233bc93e
What he fails to recognise is earnings for most college degrees isn’t that great. Women in the US need a rich husband to pay off their debt. But they think status matters so they also want a more educated partner than them as well.
Conversely, a young man can earn far more with HVAC certs than a degree in peace studies. Even a PhD, usually.
College is a large part of the problem here.
Wouldn’t it be hilarious to put the returning French ambassador in shitty hotel quarantine (or Howard Springs) sans Evian water and Brie.
College is a large part of the problem here.
Sure is. A trade is often so much better than a profession and it can often lead to a profession anyway. Tertiary ejucashun has degenerated into a total abomination even Oxbridge but I would argue that PPE has always been shit.
Withdrawing your ambassador has been the dummy-spit-du-jour in world politics in order to Send A Message (before quickly restoring the status quo) since 1945. Like a face mask, it’s all theatre.
All well and good, but what’s his excuse for ignoring what’s going on now? He can open his mouth to criticise Trump but having his fellow countrymen crushed by petty tyrants is beneath his notice.
pfizer’s Comintary was identified in israel as having the same potential rare side effect yet Sweden is recommending it over moderna?
All over the place
This author is very earnest
No he’s not.
I’ve been following Scott since he was the the first & only person to say that Instagram would be the best acquisition could have possibly made (on par with google buying youtube).
When you put his outstanding business acumen aside he is the sneerer-in-chief when it comes to anything out side of NY & CA.
All well and good, but what’s his excuse for ignoring what’s going on now? He can open his mouth to criticise Trump but having his fellow countrymen crushed by petty tyrants is beneath his notice.
Exactly. A phony and a fraud. His association with Trumble gives it away. I can’t prove this but I suspect he is/was a Bush globalist who enjoyed being PM. The white picket fence Menzies stuff was just pantomime.
Interesting (alarming) read.
So what if Emery got government funding, one has to presume they got money fir their licensing deal with Ridgeback so the author’s beef should be with the university, or no-one.
hating profits
Winston
They always appear for me and many others. Check your spam folder maybe? Try again?
It also leads naturally to forming and running a business, which a uni degree doesn’t.
All well and good, but what’s his excuse for ignoring what’s going on now? He can open his mouth to criticise Trump but having his fellow countrymen crushed by petty tyrants is beneath his notice.”
I agree. There is no excuse. Back in July 2018, one month before Turnbull committed hari-kari (just remember, nobody knifed Turnbull, he knifed himself), I ran into John Howard on a Sydney CBD street. I bailed Howard up and I asked “Mr Howard, you can’t possibly think this PM and the government he’s leading is any good?” Howard replied rather nervously….”well, it’s better than the alternative”….to which I replied “that’s not good enough Mr Howard”. He then nervously walked away.
Howard, like them all, chooses easy targets for his opprobrium. Trump was an easy target for him to censure. At the end of the day Howard is a political elite, determined to protect his own and he’s a coward to boot.
BTW…..I’m not usually scary, only when dealing with politicians.
Ditto.
I received an email about the Sydney office of my employer talking about how they are planning to re-open as permitted by public health orders.
There has already been much discussion about the limits on the power of government to demand only vaccinated employees be allowed to return – so they are duping employers to effect policies that will have the same effect as government wishes to get past restrictions that are deliberately imposed on government to stop it doing this.
The way it has been spoken of is that a company can insist only double-vaxxed be allowed back even if it is not explicitly stated in the public health orders and, frankly, my employer is a great droopy sloppy mess when it comes to social fads (although their actual product is worthy). But they do not mention vaccination.
Makes me think they are watching court cases as well.
Corrosive snobbery against trades is grotesque and also a smokescreen for laziness.
Indolentsays:
October 7, 2021 at 8:10 am
Fuck it, the world is ending.
Pass the bourbon.
Some solid comments here for the beginning of the day. Thanks to all who contribute. We so desperately need this type of forum.
I hope everyone’s day is successful (however you choose to define that), even if your present circumstances are less than ideal.
Stick around. We need you. All of you.
REVERSE THE VACCINE MANDATE
Petition. Please sign.
https://vic.nationals.org.au/no-vaccine-mandate/
We’ve seen copies of email exchanges with both Woolworths and Coles where they admitted that QR code sign in could not be enforced under the Privacy Act. If that is the case, how much more so would that apply to personal medical information. I keep saying that a huge part of this appears to be bluff, with the government monstering business to do what they can’t legally do themselves and AT THEIR OWN RISK.
Tens of thousands of businesses have stated that they would not ask people for personal information and would not discriminate. This is the path that should be taken. What is needed are a couple of court cases confirming this, assuming that the courts act on the law, not politics which, unfortunately, is not a given.
For those of you who have freely chosen to take the vax, please sign the petition anyway.
Just remember this:
2021: Do what you’re told to do by the government.. Take that vax. It’s for the ”greater good”.
The future: Do what you’re told to do by the government.. Take that [insert whatever experimental substance]. It’s for the ”greater good”.
Well done Cassie. A huge disappointment to put it mildly.
Remember this, given the orgy of delegated legislation fatso asthmatic Brad Hazzard has ejaculated all over the public in the past two years.
When the republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous
“well, it’s better than the alternative”
The LNP have been getting fat of that for generations.
Perhaps I’m wrong, can anyone correct me? It seems to me that the commonwealth privacy laws serve your right to not divulge medical records and info to anyone, if you choose not to.
Not, you are 100% correct.
But employers continue to blatantly ignore that because ”mandate”. Despite the actual FACT that a mandate is not enshrined in legislation.
Please release these to the public.
Perhaps Alan Jones would be a good conduit?
Dan Andrews:
‘It’s for my greater good.’
Thanks Tom for the toons. Branco for me today.
Am missing Dilbert.
I note the papers have turned on Andrews even his party pamphlet the Herald Sun. Could there be a light at the end of this god forsaken tunnel?
I hope so.
“BTW…..I’m not usually scary, only when dealing with politicians.”
Amendment….”I’m not usually scary, only when dealing with politicians and ex-boyfriends“.
The day is coming:
Oh, OK.
STOP PISSING ON THE CARPET AND WHERE’S MY OTHER FUCKING SHOE YOU USELESS PRICK. AND WHAT HAVE YOU FED THE DOG?
Paging Deadman…
Cui dat voluerit?
Let’s take it to an extreme:
“Treatment for Breast Cancer is overwhelming the healthcare system. Enforced double mastectomies for all those past child rearing”.
Once you break a principle, the rest is just a matter of scale.
We’ve been seeing the same from George W too lately. They’d spent their careers scrunching up into the centre ground, but neither can cope with the idea that there is no real centre ground anymore.
The Left has destroyed the centre over the last 30 years. Overton has split in two: one sub-window on the left and one on the right. If the Right tries to move into the non-existent centre, where there are few voters to be had any more, all they do is shed their own base out the right side of their sub-window.
I’ll give an example of the split: this graph. It was in The Geek in Pictures this week. Breathtaking that 90% of Democrats approve of Joe Biden after his ghastly performance thus far.
As much as we like to ridicule the Frogs – deservedly so of course – by fuck can they make wine.
Just enjoyed a 2010 Bordeaux. Best wine I have ever drunk.
Superb (said in a French accent).
Seems like the Herald Sun turned away from stairman months ago but had ramped up the scorn recently.
My mother has a subscription so I occasionally glance at a page or three.
#DanNext still trending on twitter last night despite all prguy17’s efforts.
Perrotett needs to knife Elliot, Hazzard and O Toole.
End this stupidity ASAP.
Revoke all health orders immediately.
Disclaimer. I have never upticked my own comment.
So you may regard any upticks on mine as someone else’s mistake! 😀
Any brunch red usually goes down a treat, Jupes.
This is what they really want.
WATCH: Fauci Makes SCARY Declaration To Canadians: ‘It’s Time To Give Up Your Individual Right of Making Your Own Decisions’
Oh Mater, am soooo stealing that!
That’s a bit absolutist. Many things are a matter of degree, and ‘depends’ is a useful word.
Gab says:
October 7, 2021 at 8:37 am
REVERSE THE VACCINE MANDATE
Petition. Please sign.
Done already.
BTW
The IBAC inquiry into Andrews should yield results in my opinion.
Our CFA officers said the whole takeover was hostile. MMFB Union types walked into CFA stations and pulled the pictures of service awardees off the walls. It was a typical TaliDan effort.
The CFA volunteers have not forgotten nor forgiven the slight.
And in France, the brunch is usually pretty good too.
It was dinner. I’m 9 hours behind you heathens.
He’s hastening slowly, Pol. Just heard him talk about lifting the face nappie mandate sooner than originally planned. But yeah, at the very least, Health Hazzard and Elliott have to go, preferably as of yesterday.
And re-visit the Warringah Motion. Get the power out of the hands of Photios slime.
That’d be me, Gab.
Signed!
Soup-airrrrrrrrrbb!
Jupes
What’s the label?
The TGA gave provisional approval for AstraZenica and Pfizer subject to further safety studies to be conducted by the drug companies to support gaps in the Stage 3 testing (including long term effects).
Those studies are supposed to be completed in 2022.
My personal risk assessment got me over that hurdle. But from my Golden Retriever perspective, government pressure to make vaccination mandatory is taking extraordinary liberties with other people’s risk tolerance.
Peace in our time!
This decade is so like the late 1930’s it’s creeping me out.
Clueless Joe Biden and the “Taiwan Agreement” | Power Line (6 Oct)
Saint Peter would care to disagree. And so would the One who gave him a second chance.
“jupes says:
October 7, 2021 at 6:51 am
High-profile real estate agent SACKED for posting ‘racist’ comment
The “racist” comment? Here:
‘The self-confessed ‘home gym enthusiast’ questioned the origins of a piece of workout equipment in a post to his personal Facebook page on Monday.
‘No Australia Made logo on this one, can I assume on this and price that it’s a Chinese import? Wanting to avoid Chinese imports if I can,’ he asked.’
Wow! Wanting to avoid Chicom imports is now “racist”. Fuck. Me. Dead. That should be national policy.”
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Arky should interview the chap, on Rumble … ‘Next time, tell ’em you want to avoid Dan peddled stuff’ … ?;) –
Made In Australia
https://rumble.com/vm9mz5-made-in-australia.html?mref=5f67r&mc=7xi0y
Model A Ford Restoration
Published September 9, 2021
+100000000, Doc!
twice yesterday I got told straight from two different people that there are no medications for treating covid.
One of them my own daughter who is now self isolating because her GFs flatmate tested (+)ve
nobody’s sick in the slightest but Health and Justice are all over it.
Here’s a hotline if you feel crook.
Order yr food from Coles Online
Drive yrself down the testing centre every 3 days
and stfu.
no medications!
none!
because science made simple.
I got a question for Dr Bong … why are people who tested positive to the Virus That Only Kills Capitalists, not medicated in any way?
Why does post-modern Healthcare wait until they’re really sick … and then, I suspect, not medicate them either?
keep it as simple or as complex as you like
True, however we’re not talking about Saints and God.
We’re talking about the scum of the earth:politicians.
Liberty Quote, Bruce.
Chateau La Couspaude
2010
Grand Cru Classe
Saint-Emilion Grand Cru
I don’t agree, Lizzie.
There are some absolutes which should not be crossed.
The ‘degrees’ and ‘depends’ of which you speak are the playground of the tyrant.
One degree, used 91 times, takes an angle from being acute to being obtuse.
If you set the right angle as the limit, that doesn’t happen.
My point was that people make all kinds of mistakes and fold to all sorts of pressure.
Of course, politicians are different. They don’t make “mistakes” – they deliberately play the electorate for personal gain.
Breaking news, Grigs lurking, grinding his dentures over Jupes post.
I have though. I’ve ignored their reminders to ‘update’ my vaccination status. How can I update something I’ve never divulged previously?
Looks like I’ll be taking my leave from Friday next week. I will however be noting my lost earnings from Fri week onwards and putting someone on the hook for it if these orders are found to be ultra vires.
Perrotett will wait until after Christmas for the big reshuffle.
Will dovetail into ScoMo’s pre election strategy.
Hazzard better be fucking gone.
Russel Brand on Facebook
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWy0-_w_Seg
Pushing decentralisation and break-up of the monopolistic techs. And free speech. The red-pilling continues…
I stumbled upon an article a few days ago about how Sydney Uni spent $750,000 on research and redesigning of their logo in 2010. Apart from simplifying the shape of the shield, replacing its filigree edges with more austere lines, and re-drawing the lion passant at the top, the biggest change was removing the motto:
Sidere Mens Eadem Mutato*
Apparently the VC (or whoever) decided that they should not keep playing to their heritage as a Sandstone University and ‘get with the times’, breaking their bonds and freeing themselves from the past. They claimed that the motto also cast them as constrained to the European model.
Personally I like the motto, often translated as ‘While the stars are different the spirit is the same’, invoking a spirit rather than the narrower ‘knowledge’, ‘labours’, ‘(search for) truth’ etc. Spirit convers all those as well as the temper which animates them.
And I liked that the place was filled with students studying nuclear physics, engineering and computers alongside those studying art history, classical literature, and philosophy. A heady mix.
The irony? All over the world universities are trying to make themselves more ‘relevant’, and ‘with it’, and deplete their historical cachet of excellence in exchange for dollars (or pounds, or Deutschmarks, or Francs etc). They are precisely following the example of Northern Hemisphere universities.
Still different stars to the North’s, and still the same spirit as the North’s.
*Also glad to find I was right, that there was something syntactically wrong. ‘Sidere’ and ‘Mutato’ should be together rather than split. Sidere mutato mens eadem.
Heinlein’s trouble in his later years as a writer was he was so famous – and rich – he could publish what he liked. No editor could tell him his sex obsession in his later novels was ruining them.
Hell yeah! He looks like an old branch-stacker from Sussex Street. Hazzard reminds me of Dickhead Dan’s Victorian healthy minister Martin Foley. Separated at birth.
aka
We’ve established what you are and now we are just haggling over the price.
Funny how local real estate buyers don’t rate any concerns that they will be priced out of the market. This needs to change.
I should have known, Jupes, but I don’t do international time zones. I leave those up to Hairy except when I am in a hotel lobby where they have proper clocks that tell you the time in other countries.
WA school leavers COVID vaccination mandate declared a sign of future for vaccine passports
(…)
What could possibly go wrong? I guess a lot of kids are going to have mysterious heart problems. It’ll probably be blamed on illegal drug use (seriously, it probably will be – assuming the medical and media mafias aren’t able to bury the data).
Seconded.
Supoib?
Hang on, that’s Chicago mobster accent.
I don’t think they even made an attempt which was obvious in the case of Iraq. Instead of insisting on a secular constitution they let Islam be declared as the official religion and Condi Rice let it happen. After that I knew it was hopeless.
As for China, I suppose it seemed feasible but when nothing happened after a while the wise option would have been to start diversifying away from them rather than handing them the entire industrial complex. Extraordinarily short-sighted.
Perrottet falls at the first freedom jump.
Unvaccinated still to be second class citizens at 80%.
Businesses being encouraged to treat citizen customers as lepers.
Parliaments are like public toilets, every time you clean them a new lot come in and have a shit.
It may be just me but I have not been impressed by French wines. We have as good if not better.
Can any with insider understanding explain how Perrotett slipped past Photios to grab the job?
I realise that it’s early days, but he missed a great opportunity by not slapping down the Sandilands quarter wit. Nobody who listens to that
bile hissing reptile votes conservative so its a free kick for a credible person such as Perrotett.
Gez, there is a much more succinct saying – same shit, different day.
Anyone see that the government of France (proposed legislation) is mandating vaccines for all by New Year’s Day, 2022?
The TGA gave provisional approval for AstraZenica and Pfizer subject to further safety studies to be conducted by the drug companies to support gaps in the Stage 3 testing (including long term effects).
Those studies are supposed to be completed in 2022.
*******
But if you refuse to get them before completion of the studies the government will make sure you lose your job.
Is there another planet somewhere where rationality hasn’t been abolished?
BTW feelthebern thanks for the heads up on Moderna and young people. Another “rare” side effect emerging only after a whole lot of people have been pumped full of the stuff. FMD.
Q: What’s the difference between a government health official and a lower primate?
A: A lower primate can learn by trial and error.
I find it odd that somebody who looks as sick as Hazzard does can be given the Health portfolio. It’s like they are laughing at us.
New NSW government.
I’ve just messaged my friends that I don’t fit the library’s entry requirements.
Lepers these days appear not to be even allowed bells.
Great toons; this is my pick; I like the way Branco depicts the vile old bastard biden:
A merlot! (At least mostly, if not all.)
Maggie de Block of Belgium says hold my croissant!
Is this petition solely for Victorians?
This is what I find most strange. How hard is it to tell people who test positive to take codral if they get symptoms? And then go to hospital if you don’t get better. I have not heard that it could do any harm.
Instead we have people left completely unsupported who then have enormous anxiety and suffer a fatal heart attack. I call that malpractice.
🙂 we had to walk past a house that let their turkey roam; it was a huge, territorial, savage male.
The trick was to try to become the ‘fish’ in the middle of the ‘school’ and let him pick off the edge kids.
Yeah, there was always big boys who wanted to show how big & brave they were, until they discovered what damage giant angry turkeys could do … then they’d shove other ‘fish’ to the edge the next day 😉
But everyone else is chanting “unclean”.
Always with the empty thought bubble.
It’s funny because it’s true.
NSW Parliament
Much here depends on defining one’s terms. What things are to be absolutes, and how are we to judge whether they should be so or not? Tyrants tend to be absolutists, those who love liberty are less so.
This raises for me questions of the sort put up here just above about the melding of interests and hence opinions that occurs with young people in a decent univesity – as SU used to be in my day, when I was a student and also taught there in the sixties and seventies. The ‘science’ and ‘humanities’ issues that were raised at that time by CP Snow, of there perhaps being ‘two cultures’ at work here that needed to be brought together. I speak and envision in humanistic terms, about the play of uncertainties and on the reduction of authority being put forward simply for its own sake. You metaphor is of the purity and certainty of angles jealously guarded against the loss of a single degree which would bring the whole thing crashing down. Interesting. So we have to agree at least to define our terms about what should and what should not be completely inviolable.
Lepers actually have leprosy, the vast majority of the unvaccinated do not actually or necessarily have COVID.
Perrottet puppets repeating the mantra
“It’s a pandemic of the unvaccinated”
The fully vaccinated dead are in denial.
Dulce et decorum est.
Is there another planet somewhere where rationality hasn’t been abolished?
Is there another planet somewhere where there’s a prime minister prepared to act as the job title suggests — a national leader?
Instead we have a spineless blob prepared to be pushed around by the likes of Criminal Dan. Maybe he’s a masochist — ritualised humiliation gets him off, maybe
I reckon on election night it’ll suddenly strike home that sucking up to the left with net zero pledges didn’t win him a single vote, while lacking even a single recognisable principle cost him the base.
It’s not about the disease, it’s all about obedience. We are being trained like puppies with a rolled up newspaper.
Where is the shitlibs ‘I’ll stand with you’ campaign for the unvaxxed? It’s not only absent, they are at the fore marginalizing the unvaxxed.
Speaking of primates, a nice but sad story today:
Heartbreak as famous gorilla dies in arms of ranger who rescued her as a baby (6 Sep)
Mr Bauma is a kind man, as well as a brave one, to be a ranger in the DRC.
So our offices reopen on Monday. Management has advised they’ll be checking people’s vaccination certificates to make sure people are double vaccinated.
Welcome to Australia in 2021.
Codral contains pseudoephedrine or an equivalent and it may do harm with Covid in the early stages as it dries up tissues and can increase the heart rate. The general advice given, as I recall from a while ago and I may be wrong now, is not to use anything but Panadol, do not take anti-inflammatories of any sort, and go to hospital if O2 levels drop (your ease of breathing indicates this). I am considering buying a cheap O2 saturation level indicator online for personal use, just in case.
Sorry to say, this sounds a lot like Pilate before Christ. But even setting that aside, it appears also contradictory. If a lover of liberty is not an absolutist at the very least in regard of liberty, what is he actually loving/defending?
Areff – Yep, see my comment about Overton splitting in two. The only way you can increase your vote as a righty is stick to righty principles and then red-pill lefties one at a time. Like Russell Brand.
The problem with this is the MSM, which is snowing and gaslighting the information-poor in a way unprecedented in history (not even excepting the CCCP propaganda industry).
That’s appalling, Cassie.
If you are double-vaxxed and refuse to tell them, where does it leave you legally? If unvaxxed they can send you home and make special provision for you until the whole vaxx silliness disintegrates, but if you don’t tell them the truth about being double-vaxxed (if you are), and they find out, can they make a claim against you for deceptive behaviour?
Yes. As long as we can be sure that it is true liberty and not a disguised tyranny that we are defending.
Many things in life are not clear-cut with regard to liberty.
You may need to explicate this for me before I can say whether I agree or not.
It is not an example where I would have much certainty that I had a good grasp upon.