Open Thread – Mon 4 Oct 2021


The Little Tower of Babel, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1563

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Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 7, 2021 10:39 am

It may be just me but I have not been impressed by French wines. We have as good if not better.

My impression is that Australians are often used to ‘big’ ripe fruited wines. Warm climate wines. Good for something things, especially big solid meals. Matching weight with weight.

Cooler climate wines have less robustness of fruit so there are more other flavours at play. All French regions are cool climate, I think. While we are mostly warm climate.

I have found some places that show cool characteristics. Orange in NSW is one. In fact I am having a bottle with some eye fillet and red wine jus this weekend: A Montoro Elegance Shiraz. At three years it might be still too young and tannic, but I will find out.

I would happily drink a Hunter red with sirloin, but prefer cooler reds with eye fillet.

Tasmanian is cool climate but I find the Pinots sometimes a little too plum-tasting for me. On the other hand a $30 Moorilla Praxis Pinot, lighter body with light tannins and more berry flavoured, is perfect for fried salmon. As the customers have become more sophisticated so have the products.

Australia wineries have an adventurous spirit. So many people I meet when wine tasting get into it because they have very clear ideas about making something ‘just right’, making it better than other people are doing. And they are more likely to talk about terroir – soils, altitude, winds, drainage.

Hmmm, rather a longwinded way of ‘both are good’.

srr
srr
October 7, 2021 10:39 am

Church Militant – Catholic Info Hour

LIVE Now, Christine speaking with Milo.
Very Interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTPn7lXAC5Y

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2021 10:41 am

Merck has now announced their pricing for their not-ivermectin.

Merck Charging US 40 Times What It Costs To Make Govt-Financed COVID Pill (6 Oct)

Merck’s new ‘not Ivermectin’ Covid-19 treatment, molnupiravir, costs $17.74 to produce – yet the company is charging the US government $712 for the treatment – a 40x markup, according to The Intercept, citing a report issued last week by the Harvard School of Public Health and King’s College Hospital in London.

The pill, originally developed using US government funds as a possible treatment for Venezuelan equine encephalitis, cut the risk of hospitalization and death in half in a randomized trial of 775 adults with mild/moderate Covid

Our new horse-paste is better than our old horse-paste. (Merck invented ivermectin.)

I don’t mind them recouping the development and certification costs. But why have a AU$1000 script when you can have a $20 script of ivermectin? The article has lots of excellent information about the dreaded IVM monster. Well worth bookmarking.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 7, 2021 10:41 am

A relo sent me this – it’s 6 minutes and worth watching. I’ve copied the address because I’m not on fb. Hopefully it will work.

https://m.facebook.com/100004823047978/videos/prof-edward-j-steele-molecular-immunologist-speaks-out-on-why-these-jabs-can-nev/271816168124377/

Roger
Roger
October 7, 2021 10:43 am

Management has advised they’ll be checking people’s vaccination certificates to make sure people are double vaccinated.

The requirement to check employees’ vaccination status must be reasonably necessary and they also require your consent.

Roger
Roger
October 7, 2021 10:45 am

…and they also require your consent.

Unless the collection of such information is required by law or by public health directive.

Is it?

calli
calli
October 7, 2021 10:46 am

Lode, try Ross Hill and Angullong. Not for everyone, natch, but I enjoy them. You can pick some of the former at good prices from Qantas.

areff
areff
October 7, 2021 10:47 am

Mother: Tried a California zinfandel?

calli
calli
October 7, 2021 10:47 am

Sorry. The latter.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 7, 2021 10:48 am

Top of the page?

I would like to thank my many fans who have been so supportive along the way. And my parents who were always there for me, even if it was only pointing and laughing.

And all the other commenters who managed to cram posts in to fill the spaces before me so I did not appear somewhere in the middle of a page.

I would also like to thank Dover for providing a venue, a canvas upon which I can daub my paints.

Ummm…and Twinings for all the tea bags. And Sydney Water, without whom I would not be having showers.

And that anonymous Mesopotamian who invented the wheel. And the Roman who decided to turn the Etruscan ‘E’ around so it did not look like katakana ‘yo’.

How much longer can I click………..

Crossie
Crossie
October 7, 2021 10:49 am

Lizzie, codral is sold as a treatment for all other corona viruses but not this one. Isn’t it convenient that there is nothing you can use?

calli
calli
October 7, 2021 10:52 am

I knew I shouldn’t have posted that Sally Field acceptance clip.

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 7, 2021 10:52 am

https://www.abc.net.au/everyday/older-motherhood-what-its-like-having-a-baby-later-in-life/100498586

Some daft bint who finally decided when she was 40 that she wanted kids – and ‘succeeded’ ten years later – spills her guts about the process. (Hint: she was a birthing vessel.) And all of the dumb neuroses you would expect from this kind of person. (Not necessarily the older mother bit – moreso the type to blab about it all to the ABC.)

The money quote:

People should really keep their opinions to themselves.

Maybe you should stop telling the world about it, then? Maybe being a chicken mom would have been a better fit for you.

Tom
Tom
October 7, 2021 10:53 am

Maggie de Block of Belgium says hold my croissant!

When are they going to do something about fat chicks?

PS: it’s the reason Polynesians survived those long exploratory ocean voyages.

areff
areff
October 7, 2021 10:53 am

Every morning I wake up, remember I’m locked down and all that implies, say ‘F*** you, Dan’ loudly enough to alarm the cat — and then remember that I have much to be grateful for. No boss but myself, so no need to placate vax-curious employers appointed as de facto police by a government that lacks the legislated right to enforce such edicts off its own bat.

Soon, I hope, we’ll see lawyers’ ads: ‘Were you forced to get vaccinated in order to keep your job? Did you suffer side effects from the vaccine? Contact us at Dewie, Fleecem & Howe’

That will concentrate employers’ thoughts mightily.

areff
areff
October 7, 2021 10:55 am

it’s the reason Polynesians survived those long exploratory ocean voyages.

Brisket of wahine?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2021 10:57 am

The climate rubbish is now really getting the attention of the elites.
Pain in the hip pocket…

EU Politicians Panic As Natgas Prices Explode 40% Overnight (6 Oct)

“This is just ridiculous,” Tom Marzec-Manser, an analyst at ICIS, told Bloomberg.
“Almost impossible to even justify or qualify how and why it’s moving so fast and so high.”

No, son, it’s what happens when you mortgage your soul to Russia and Gaia simultaneously.

calli
calli
October 7, 2021 11:00 am

Soon, I hope, we’ll see lawyers’ ads: ‘Were you forced to get vaccinated in order to keep your job? Did you suffer side effects from the vaccine? Contact us at Dewie, Fleecem & Howe’

That’s after they sue themselves.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2021 11:03 am

I hope, we’ll see lawyers’ ads: ‘Were you forced to get vaccinated in order to keep your job?

Not going to happen. The likes of IMF and Slugs and Grubs are an arm of the Cathedral.
Lefties. They dare not risk being cast out by the hive.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 7, 2021 11:04 am

Hi Calli,

Yes, Ross Hill. I have been there a few times. Angullong I have actually not visited yet. I have walked past their cellar door in Milthorpe many times but have not dropped in.

I went to Printhie because I had liked their Pinot Meunier which they sell as a varietal rather than just a blend for NV Sparkling. Not as good as I hoped, although I had to share my serving wench with other people and the waiting around for attention and the impossibility of a coherent conversation might have annoyed me. Coming earlier or later might have helped.

I like Mortimers and Borrodell.

I like the one-to-one service where they are noting your talk about the distinctions with you, especially when they pull out stuff not on the list to try. These are usually good ones they hold back from general tastings and are quite brilliant. I normally end up buying these. Borrodell suckered me in for a great wine that way.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 7, 2021 11:11 am

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
October 7, 2021 at 10:57 am
The climate rubbish is now really getting the attention of the elites.
Pain in the hip pocket…

EU Politicians Panic As Natgas Prices Explode 40% Overnight (6 Oct)

“This is just ridiculous,” Tom Marzec-Manser, an analyst at ICIS, told Bloomberg.
“Almost impossible to even justify or qualify how and why it’s moving so fast and so high.”

No, son, it’s what happens when you mortgage your soul to Russia and Gaia simultaneously.
******
This ponce is being paid as an “analyst”, and he can’t work out basic cause and effect?

cohenite
October 7, 2021 11:13 am

The fbi is out of control: chasing parents who complain about teacher filth, now cops who support Trump:

FBI Raids NY City Police Union Headquarters – After Union Openly Backed President Trump for the First Endorsement in its History (thegatewaypundit.com)

All this while keeping the Jan 6 visitors in jail despite their own finding that no insurrection occurred or that Trump was involved. But no antifa or BLM arseholes are arrested though. I hope the US explodes and these left mongrels are dealt with.

calli
calli
October 7, 2021 11:14 am

Borrodell is good. Was up there tasting not all that long ago. They’ve re-done their little restaurant since I last ate there. It’s all beautiful country and the view over the vineyards and orchards is lovely. Agree about Printhe, despite the cute name.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 7, 2021 11:15 am

Boss! Here is my jab history.
The antibiotic shots were when yer missus had that nasty infection.
Anything else you want to know?

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 7, 2021 11:16 am

Mother: Tried a California zinfandel?

Mother: Have you gone up the road to Mudgee and tried David Lowe’s Zinfandel? Worth the trip!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2021 11:17 am

The 1930’s called and asked for their badges back.

Report: Disney Rolling Out Sticker System to Identify Vaccinated On-Set Workers (6 Oct)

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 7, 2021 11:18 am

Tried a California zinfandel?

Many years ago, but at a meal with friends and did not really taste it properly.

There is a bottle at my local which I keep telling myself to buy but have not yet.

The style has the areff stamp of approval?

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 7, 2021 11:18 am

Justin Castro leading the Cheeseheads to those broad, sunlit uplands.

Bruce in WA
October 7, 2021 11:20 am

Speaking of wines, anyone in WA (or coming here when “allowed”) and visiting the Margaret River region, may I strongly suggest a visit to Carpe Diem Vineyards. Big, full-flavoured reds in the Italian tradition (try his Sangiovese with a leg of lamb) and more delicate, crafted whites. He produces a merlot (181) unlike any I have ever tasted. It’s superb — and I am NOT a merlot fan! His balsamic vinegar is exxie, but to die for.

Roger
Roger
October 7, 2021 11:21 am

Unless the collection of such information is required by law or by public health directive.

Is it?

Did they consult their workers or was this presented as a fait accompli?

Are they allowing for exemptions on medical and religious grounds?

What undertakings have they given to protect the right to privacy of employees in this matter?

What provisions will they make for the unvaccinated to continue working in adjusted circumsatnces to minimise risk, as per Fair Work recommendations, assuming the risk is real?

Have they considered these things?

If not, you’re working for a bunch of cowboys who need to be educated, cassie.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 7, 2021 11:22 am

I’m chasing this ambulance but I’m getting covered in red dust. The Aboriginal Industry opens war on a new front. Plenty of “go away” money around at current iron ore prices. Unlike lobsters the Ch!nks are hooked on the stuff.

Bruce in WA
October 7, 2021 11:22 am

Off to the cardiologist for ECG and check-up. Expect a bollocking from him because of my weight. 🙁 Oh well, a short life but a merry one. Catch yas later.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2021 11:23 am

Space is the final frontier!
The other frontiers aren’t important.

What Border Crisis?: Kamala Harris to Star in YouTube Space-Themed Special for Kids (5 Oct)

I’m enjoying Kamala as veep. Someone should ask her to spell “potato”.

Baba
Baba
October 7, 2021 11:26 am

Mandy Cant, 51,

Known affectionately as Mundy?

Damon
Damon
October 7, 2021 11:28 am

Kamala has found the role for which she is obviously best suited: the invisible (wo)man

Tom
Tom
October 7, 2021 11:32 am

Always follow the money: The family of US attorney-general Merrick Garland is getting rich selling critical race theory to schools at the same time as Garland’s Justice Department has designated parents who oppose CRT as “domestic terrorists”. I’ll post the video when it’s available (Tucker Carlson Tonight).

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 7, 2021 11:36 am

Borrodell is good. Was up there tasting not all that long ago.

I went to De Salis one cloudy day and sat out the back on the verandah tasting. It started raining which we could hear on the roof.

Sitting there, swirling wine around our mouths, the smell of damp earth, sounds softened by the rain, a breeze blowing…

Only thing missing were backed chairs – stools don’t quite cut it. But then I might never have left.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 7, 2021 11:37 am

You walk home with a a bag of bugs and fake soy meat.

You walk to your pod with a bag of bugs and fake soy meat.

Hes putting on air… house indeed!
Thats not for the proles.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2021 11:38 am

What do you call a tofu and pineapple pizza?

Climate Guru Greta Thunberg Gets Message from New Zealand Pizza Outlet: ‘Go to Hell’

Hell Pizza has put up billboards in Thunberg’s hometown of Stockholm, Sweden that read in bold letters: “Greta can go to Hell” followed by in smaller print, “For 100 percent carbon neutral pizza deliveries in New Zealand.”

Hell Pizza chief executive Ben Cumming said in a statement to the NZ Herald: “Looking to the future, we want our 75 stores to be even more clean and green. This includes a national electric fleet of delivery vehicles, renewable energy within stores, and sourcing more than 95 per cent of food and materials within Aotearoa.

Mr Cummings maybe leftier than most other lefties, but I like his style.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 7, 2021 11:38 am

John 18:33-40. Pilate asks him if He is a King. Christ responds, not of this this world, but that He comes bear witness to the Truth, and Pilate responds, but “what is truth?” and, without waiting for an answer, walks out.

Ah,but you see Dover, in that case I would definitely have waited for the answer.

I am not beyond instruction nor revelation.

And I always keep my eyes on liberty as a beacon rather than an edict.
It’s arguable that the worst political absolutism occurred under Calvinism.

rosie
rosie
October 7, 2021 11:39 am

I thought you said yesterday BoN that molnupiravir wasn’t rebadged ivermectin.
Now it is again?

$17.74 cost is a guess , and gosh how generous of them to think the government should allow a ten percent mark up.
Definitely in the numbers school of economics territory.

cohenite
October 7, 2021 11:39 am

Euro-trash; the left of the world are intent on destroying it:

The European Parliament… has enraged many Arabs by calling for boycotting Expo 2020 Dubai…

The timing of the resolution is problematic. It implies that the European Parliament is seeking to punish the UAE for signing a peace treaty with Israel. The resolution coincided with the first anniversary of the signing of the Abraham Accords, the term used to refer to peace agreements between Israel and the UAE and Bahrain.

By singling out the UAE, the European Parliament has chosen to side with the enemies of peace, cooperation and normalization between Israelis and Arabs.

Worse, the European Parliament saw no reason to call out Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad for their daily human rights violations against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.

Resolutions such as the one taken by the European Parliament are the kind that give the enemies of peace in the Middle East — evidently now including the European Parliament — ammunition to keep fighting to achieve their goal of destroying Israel.

Why Arabs Are Annoyed With the Europeans :: Gatestone Institute

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 7, 2021 11:40 am

Not yet, Rorschach.

Only been to Mudgee once. Have drunk a fair bit of their wine through places in the Hunter like Peterson’s.

JMH
JMH
October 7, 2021 11:40 am

Gabsays:
October 7, 2021 at 8:37 am
REVERSE THE VACCINE MANDATE

Gab, do we know how many have signed to date? And yes, I did.

rosie
rosie
October 7, 2021 11:42 am

I never take codral, if I want to guarantee a simple cold becomes bronchitis codral is the way to do it.
In any case codral eases symptoms, it’s your body that does the work flighting off a cold.
Fluids and bedrest.

P
P
October 7, 2021 11:44 am

Kevin Rudd talks Murdoch, Australia’s media & Anthony Albanese |
FULL INTERVIEW | UNCENSORED
by 14yr old Leo

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 7, 2021 11:44 am

That some things are ambiguous only means we should temper our judgements in such cases with charity if needed, while standing firm on the principle at stake. It doesn’t mean we should forgo the principle.

I have never been in disagreement re this. Tempered judgement has been my beef all along if there is agreement on any given principle, although there may also be disagreement as to how principles are to be determined.

Baba
Baba
October 7, 2021 11:47 am

rosiesays:
October 7, 2021 at 11:39 am
I thought you said yesterday BoN that molnupiravir wasn’t rebadged ivermectin.
Now it is again?

Where did Bruce claim that?

rosie
rosie
October 7, 2021 11:49 am

I know it isn’t enough for the people of NSW but it does put pressure on dictator Dan who is hopefully too busy with ibac to appear at daily sneersoirees
Sydney morning herald live blog with various updates no paywall

Baba
Baba
October 7, 2021 11:49 am

Where did Bruce claim Molnupiravir is rebadged ivermectin?

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 7, 2021 11:50 am

Some stuff about colour to soothe fevered brows.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 7, 2021 11:50 am

What Border Crisis?: Kamala Harris to Star in YouTube Space-Themed Special for Kids

Dear Lord!

They put her in charge of the border and it has turned to chaos.

Don’t let her near the heavens – the sun will go supernova, the stars will fall out of the sky, the gravitational constant will become a variable leaping and bucking like a bronco, and all the dark matter will turn fuschia-coloured prompting uncontrolled vomiting from every sentient being on this world or any other.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 7, 2021 11:52 am

Codral is recommended for ‘colds’ which are also caused by Corona viruses.

I think it may not be recommended for Covid infections because this virus specifically attaches to the ACE2 cells that proliferate in the nasal passages (as well as in the lungs and the vascular system). Perhaps Codral causes changes to the nasal tissues that make these ACE2 cells more vulnerable – I don’t know, just a hypothesis as to why they only recommend Panadol for early Covid symptoms.

Codral just makes you feel better when your nose is running from one of over a hundred rhinoviruses, some of which are corona type. I am a big fan of Codral for any incipient cold, provided it has genuine pseudoephedrine in it and not the new ‘alternative’. Pseudo-eph is the real stuff, odd though it sounds.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2021 11:52 am

Cuba news I:

DeSantis Awards Florida’s Medal of Freedom to Che Guevara Captor Felix Rodriguez (6 Oct)

As a 19 year-old member of Brigada 2506, Felix infiltrated Communist Cuba weeks before the Bay of Pigs invasion, organizing underground freedom-fighters, planning for the sabotage of key roads and bridges, staying a step ahead of the Castro’s secret police and their KGB handlers and coaches. Almost 70 per cent of his comrades in the infiltration teams died in front of firing squads, after torture. Felix knew the odds. He volunteered anyway.

Later, as a CIA operative, Rodriguez played the key role in tracking down and capturing Che Guevara in Bolivia and was the last to question him. “Finally I was face to face with the assassin of thousands of my countrymen, of hundreds of my patriot friends.”

On the day he gained his U.S. citizenship in 1969 Rodriguez celebrated the honor by volunteering for armed action in Viet-Nam.

Respect.

Cuba news II:

Nine Cuban Baseball Players Defect to Mexico Mid-Tournament (5 Oct)

Socialism is just so popular!

rosie
rosie
October 7, 2021 11:52 am

Yesterday when he talked about confusion and conflation.
I’m under the impression that just because two different medications have the intention/purpose of preventing a virus from replicating itself doesn’t make them the ‘same’.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 7, 2021 11:53 am

My top line there is a quote from someone above.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 7, 2021 11:53 am

Totally not a government cult.

Ask not what the NHS can do for us … but what we can do for the NHS

The answer is a little unconventional.

We love the National Health Service. It’s a pure, unconditional love. Most of us have experience of great treatment within the NHS, and terrible treatment too, yet our love for the institution seldom wavers. When things go well, we praise the NHS, but when things go badly, we tend to blame individual hospitals, doctors, or whole groups of doctors such as GPs – who are getting a disgraceful kicking just now. But it’s never the NHS’s fault.

Be a lab rat..
Dr Suki Balendra is life sciences lead for this alliance and has a very clear answer when I ask her what we, as individuals, can do to help the NHS. “Every time a patient has an appointment with their healthcare professional, they should ask them about research and how they could get involved,” she says. It’s not just drug trials. “Research should be in the very fabric of the healthcare system and the patients should be as involved in threading research through the system as the healthcare professionals themselves.”

..
not a cult…
Samantha Batt-Rawden is an intensive care and air ambulance doctor who helps lead an organisation called NHS Million, which aims to create “a superteam of a million people who love and cherish the NHS”

But dont do anything personal to improve your health..
Interestingly, unlike most doctors I’ve spoken to, she doesn’t think there’s a great deal to be gained by asking people to look after themselves better for the greater good. “If people can’t be persuaded to change their lifestyle for their own health, I’m not sure they would do it for the NHS,” she says.

Respectfully, I wonder if she’s right on that. After all, when it comes to self-care, people have complicated feelings about themselves, certainly more complex than their visceral attachment to the NHS. I think we may owe it to the institution to try our best to be healthy, even if we feel we don’t owe it to ourselves. And, though I’m slightly in disagreement with Batt-Rawden on this, she gets the last word anyway. “The beauty of the NHS is that ultimately you owe us nothing. No matter who you are, where you’ve come from, or what illness you have, we will be there for you. But to those who do recognise how special this is, and want to give something back, please know how much we appreciate you.”

The NHS “success” is due to antibiotics being invented and made widely available around the same time it was implemented.

rosie
rosie
October 7, 2021 11:54 am

Or perhaps I’m just seeing the implication in his comment at 10.41

rosie
rosie
October 7, 2021 11:57 am

And notice how the smh single out St Columba’s in Essendon over the 16th birthday parties outbreak even naming the other two schools involved?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 7, 2021 11:57 am

sneersoirees

Catictionary! Over here.

Baba
Baba
October 7, 2021 11:59 am

I can’t see where Bruce 10.41 said the two Merck horsepastes are the same.

rosie
rosie
October 7, 2021 12:02 pm

No surprises there baba

amortiser
amortiser
October 7, 2021 12:03 pm

JC says:
October 6, 2021 at 4:44 pm
Eyrie says:
October 6, 2021 at 4:16 pm

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/not-supposed-happen-us-state-highest-vaxx-rate-sees-record-surge-covid-cases
Dickhead posts a thread from Non-Zero Hedge that suggests a state like Maine is experiencing very high rates of covid even though their vaxxing is at record highs. I’ve said before about Faulty 2. He is totally data innumerate. It should be illegal for the c..t to even read charts and numbers.

Here’s the contra argument on twitter by a person who understands numbers about Maine.

1/. Really? I am amazed by @ianmSC’s ability to spin and mislead with data. I’m also amazed at the awful level of data literacy in his followers. There is literally nothing Ian has posted that you couldn’t poke holes in for being an incomplete picture. Nothing.

Why?

2/. You want to play? ok. (1) Ian posts a chart showing cases rising in ME. (2) he cites relatively high vax rates in ME. (3) He then implies that this means that vaccines aren’t working.

3/. What’s missing? Data on the percentage of cases in vax’d vs. unvax’d. He does not have enough data to draw this conclusion. It’s called data sufficiency, and at least when I took the GMAT years ago, it was a core component.

4/. bottom line, he’s drawing conclusions without sufficient data to back up those conclusions.

5/. The only conclusion we can legitimately draw from the data he actually posted is that Fauci was wrong about the 50% vax rate, which is not a stunning insight. In presenting the data the way he did, the goal is to undermine confidence in vaccines.

So where are the figures for:

(a) those testing positive who are fully vaxed;
(b) those testing positive who are single vaxed;
(c) those testing positive who are unvaxed;
(d) those testing positive who were previously infected.

There are none. So JC is going off half cocked. I have been trying to get these figures out of NSW health for at least 2 weeks now to no avail. Yet this information is critical to assessing the success of their Covid strategy.

I would be willing to bet that there are bugger all people in category (d).

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 7, 2021 12:03 pm

I knew I shouldn’t have posted that Sally Field acceptance clip.

You done good calli.
I had just watched that scene being absolutely shredded by Priscilla Presley in Naked Gun 33 1/3.
Laughed just as much at Sally as I had with Priscilla.

rickw
rickw
October 7, 2021 12:06 pm

It’s been over a week since Perfidious Dan announced that all ‘Authorized Workers’ had until the 15th to get single vaxxed or get stood down, has that creature CHO Sutton produced the requisite PHO yet? If not, why not?

I see there is now financial support available for the unvaxxed after it was pointed out that The Bat Eared Mong had basically condemned them to starvation.

areff
areff
October 7, 2021 12:07 pm

Bottle shop in Williamstown always has a couple of labels. Might toddle over this arvo, get some of the butcher’s excellent sausages and pick up a bottle or two. Yes, one of my favourites.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
October 7, 2021 12:09 pm

K.D.
Don’t you fucking dare ‘give it all away’ because some engineer somewhere with a uni degree can’t work it out.

KD – Get fucked
Regards,
Tony

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 7, 2021 12:14 pm

Against the tide at the morning management meeting.
Brought up was Rios “everyone gets the jab, we dont care about consulting the employees”.
Next cab off the rank was “human rights dont apply because we need to vaccinate everybody”.

So I dropped the “this is against all medical protocols and violates informed consent”. turd into the punchbowl then delicately guided conversation to “its government, it will be a fuckup” safe harbor.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 7, 2021 12:14 pm

Five days after the AFL GF, TaliDan was blaming home parties for the big Covid surge.
“Completely avoidable” according to Dan.

Tomorrow will be five days after the NRL GF and no doubt a big surge is inevitable for NSW.
Who’s taking bets?

MatrixTransform
October 7, 2021 12:16 pm

I mentioned daughter’s friend earlier today who tested positive

…yep, double-VX’nated too.

Indolent
Indolent
October 7, 2021 12:17 pm

Can any with insider understanding explain how Perrotett slipped past Photios to grab the job?

Farmer Gezsays:
October 7, 2021 at 9:53 am
Perrottet falls at the first freedom jump.
Unvaccinated still to be second class citizens at 80%.

You might have missed it but Farmer Gez just above you has already answered that. No slipping past required, he’s just another puppet.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
October 7, 2021 12:20 pm

Tomorrow will be five days after the NRL GF and no doubt a big surge is inevitable for NSW.
Who’s taking bets?

FG.

NRL GF was in Brisbane. Zero community cases today after 4 days.

Indolent
Indolent
October 7, 2021 12:21 pm

Gabsays:
October 7, 2021 at 8:37 am
REVERSE THE VACCINE MANDATE

Is this petition solely for Victorians?

I’m in NSW and successfully signed it.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 7, 2021 12:21 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2021 12:23 pm

Some stuff about colour to soothe fevered brows.

That looks rather good.

One of my favorite stories is The Potters of Firsk by Jack Vance, about an alien culture who loved yellow glaze pottery. The survey team desperately needs to find a way to provide a true yellow glaze, which they do by dismantling their nuke, dissolving its uranium, and making a glaze from it.

Another favourite of mine is arsenic, which with sulfur makes two remarkable pigments: realgar, which is blood red, and orpiment which is golden yellow. I’m not sure which is the more fun yellow pigment: arsenic yellow, or U235 yellow.

Indigo dye, I might add, pretty much kicked off the whole organochemistry field in 1870, of which I’m a poor servant.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 7, 2021 12:31 pm

FG.

NRL GF was in Brisbane. Zero community cases today after 4 days.

Location is not the issue.
AFL was in Perth.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2021 12:37 pm

Veritas drop. Pfizer also uses aborted human cell lines and worked assiduously to cover this up.

That they used the fetal cell-line for testing has been known from day one, pretty much. At least they weren’t stupid like AZ, who used it in the production process.

It’s a significant moral question, but not a fatal error in my personal conscience, based on Peter’s letter to the Gentiles. Pfizer haven’t been covering themselves in glory lately though.

Winston Smith
October 7, 2021 12:41 pm

Zipster:
‘Parents Across This Country Are Going To Be Stunned’: Hawley Rips Deputy AG Over School Board Memo
The FBI under the Biden Administration is investigating parents who get annoyed at school meetings when they turn up and the boards won’t hear their arguments.
The arguments – of a legal kind – are being called violence.
Note how the fluidity of language in Left ideology is now being used to silence the parents?
Speech is violence.
Your demand to be heard is literally violence.

Dot
Dot
October 7, 2021 12:45 pm

Speech is violence

Yes, but silence is violence too.

Dot
Dot
October 7, 2021 12:46 pm

Veritas drop. Pfizer also uses aborted human cell lines and worked assiduously to cover this up.

That they used the fetal cell-line for testing has been known from day one, pretty much. At least they weren’t stupid like AZ, who used it in the production process

Is there any COVID vaccine in Australia that was produced in a manner consistent with Christian teaching?

(For mine, see the magisterium of the Catholic Church in the official catechism).

Roger
Roger
October 7, 2021 12:51 pm

Andrew Bolt on disgusting Australian bigots.

The New Puritans are aghast that a papist is leading NSW.

They’ll be calling for the reintroduction of Penal Laws next.

It’s called progress!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 7, 2021 12:55 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:

October 7, 2021 at 11:52 am

Cuba news I:

DeSantis Awards Florida’s Medal of Freedom to Che Guevara Captor Felix Rodriguez (6 Oct)

Much as I hate these State and National trinket ceremonies, that is Trump level trolling.
That distant popping sound you hear is heads exploding in LA and NYC.

Indolent
Indolent
October 7, 2021 12:57 pm

If you are double-vaxxed and refuse to tell them, where does it leave you legally? If unvaxxed they can send you home and make special provision for you until the whole vaxx silliness disintegrates, but if you don’t tell them the truth about being double-vaxxed (if you are), and they find out, can they make a claim against you for deceptive behaviour?

This would have to be the most ridiculous statement I’ve ever read. Are you seriously suggesting that you think people can be charged with “deceptive behaviour” for withholding personal medical information? As I understand it, under federal law, which overrides state, such information cannot even be requested, let alone forced.

Legally speaking, it seems to me that it’s the government and business which are skirting the rules and no one seems prepared to hold them to account.

As for the vaxx silliness disintegrating, that will only happen if people, whether vaxxed or not, refuse to co-operate with it. Once they get it up and running, you’ll be waiting forever.

It’s not hard to see that what you’re really doing is trying to find reasons for people to, just like you, go along to get along.

Cassie of Sydney
October 7, 2021 12:59 pm

“The New Puritans are aghast that a papist is leading NSW.”

It’s funny, NSW has had many “Catholic” premiers. I don’t recall any controversy re O’Farrell or Keneally or Iemma or Greiner or Unsworth. No, it isn’t just because Perrottet is a “papist”…it’s because he’s a papist who actually believes in papal doctrine. Mon dieu!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2021 1:00 pm

Mickey Mouse is diseased.

Disney Demands Visitors Socially Distance From Mickey Mouse (6 Oct)

The only valid reason to socially distance from Disney park characters is that the costumes are covered in every possible bodily fluid and worn by desperate people who couldn’t get a job at Burger King.

“Indoor meet-and-greets with Disney characters are back at Disney’s theme parks, but hugs and autographs aren’t yet allowed. … Guests can take photos with characters but will have to keep their social distance.”

“Although the environment is not right just yet for hugs and autographs, you’ll soon be able to have individualized time with some of your favorite characters, getting to visit with them in a themed location and snap a photo or two,” Disney said in a statement.

The bit about “every possible bodily fluid” is hyperbole. I hope.

srr
srr
October 7, 2021 1:02 pm

“Outstanding speech heartfelt and accurate.”
– Abigail Slade

FREEMIUM: Carl Benjamin – The Universal Human | #LOTUSEATERSLIVE
Oct 7, 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxz-Peyiyt4

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2021 1:06 pm

Cassie – The coverage by the MSM of Biden as a Catholic and Perrottet as a Catholic might be slightly different. It’s a mystery.

Tom
Tom
October 7, 2021 1:07 pm

Andrew Bolt on disgusting Australian bigots.

Dot, please don’t post paywalled content.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 7, 2021 1:07 pm

Farmer Gezsays:

October 7, 2021 at 12:14 pm

Five days after the AFL GF, TaliDan was blaming home parties for the big Covid surge.
“Completely avoidable” according to Dan.

If it was completely avoidable it was also completely predictable.
What could Hunchback have done?
Appeal to people to stay home and, in return, guarantee an opening up in four weeks? No, because PR 101 says “never commit to anything you don’t have to”.
Could he have asked the AFL and Sneakers to run the game at midday Perth time to limit the chance of parties running all day and all night? No, because refusal often offends.
It’s all bullshit anyway.
Just blame deflector #67.
So, yes, if his hypothesis about GF parties is true, we should see a surge in infections in NSW right about now.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 7, 2021 1:08 pm

The Mocker in the Oz in good form:

…you might remember that just under a year ago the periodical Quarterly Essay published a piece titled ‘The High Road: What Australia Can Learn From New Zealand’. The author was ABC 7.30’s chief political correspondent Laura Tingle, who was most impressed by our neighbour’s handling of the pandemic, particularly Ardern’s insistence on applying the elimination model.

“From Australia, we watched in shock, scepticism or admiration,” wrote Tingle. “Our political leaders were wrestling with the same issues, but prevaricating by Ardern’s standards … Our path was more gradual and the messages more mixed, to say the least. In Australia we were trying to have the best of both worlds: to limit the impact of the virus, but also to limit its economic impact by minimising the shutdown … New Zealand’s response to the coronavirus is just the latest reason Australians have sometimes looked wistfully, or at least with interest, across the Tasman.”

The elimination model is no more, Ardern having quietly announced this week her government has abandoned that policy. The country has 350 active cases, having recorded 39 new community transmission cases yesterday. Auckland has been in lockdown since mid-August. “With this outbreak, and Delta, the return to zero is incredibly difficult,” Ardern said. It was, wrote Jack Tame, the host of New Zealand’s Q + A program, “a frustrating and confusing watch for anyone trying to understand the Government’s true position on the state of the Delta outbreak and its strategy from this point forth”.

As Britain’s Telegraph noted this week, Ardern’s failure to ensure Kiwis were vaccinated in sufficient numbers could mean New Zealand is faced with “a delayed health disaster”. Currently only 49 per cent of the eligible population is fully vaccinated compared to 58.4 per cent of Australians aged 16 and above.

Contrast Ardern’s demeanour with that she displayed on August 17 when she announced a national three-day lockdown regarding a single Delta case in Auckland. Asked by a journalist what her message was to those questioning the restrictions, Ardern pointed west theatrically. “Australia,” she said. “We’ve seen the dire consequences of taking too long to act in other countries, not least our neighbours. We want to be short and sharp rather than light and long. We’ve seen what happened in Sydney. We don’t want that experience here.” And for good measure: “Our case has originated in Australia”.

That was to be expected from Ardern, an artful deflector of difficult questions and this country’s leading foreign fault-finder. This hectoring and blaming of Australia are tedious but crudely effective tactics. For example, in a column for Sydney Morning Herald on Monday, Henry Cooke, New Zealand’s chief political correspondent for the media outlet Stuff wrote that “Kiwis bear a grudge towards Australia, the source of our outbreak”.

That is an interesting take, especially given Auckland’s patient zero is a Kiwi. He flew from Sydney on August 7 as part of the managed “red zone” flights that New Zealand’s Covid Response Minister, Chris Hipkins, announced on July 9 for Kiwis wanting to return from New South Wales. To facilitate this, the New Zealand government dropped pre-departure Covid testing, instead directing travellers into managed isolation on their return. The patient concerned was tested on August 8 in Auckland, and the following day after registering positive was moved to Jet Park, the country’s main quarantine facility. By then he had already passed the virus on to a family in an adjacent room at the Auckland Crowne Plaza. All of this is Australia’s fault, you see.

So what were Ardern’s priorities when this was happening? Well, a week before this positive test, she was addressing Pacific dignitaries at an Auckland ceremony, where she formally apologised for the “racist” dawn raids of the 1970s in which overstayers were arrested and deported – events that took place nearly 50 years ago, almost 10 years before Ardern was born.

As the ABC reported: “Ms Arden also took part in a traditional Samoan ritual known as an ifoga, in which the subject seeks forgiveness by exposing themselves to a kind of public humiliation. Members of the Pacific Island community pulled a large white mat over Ms Ardern’s head that completely covered her.”

No doubt at Monday’s press conference she was desperately wishing they would do the same.

 

DaFisk
DaFisk
October 7, 2021 1:08 pm

Great news for landlords!

Domain has released its June Rental Vacancy Report, which has reported extreme tightness across most markets:

With a supply crunch looming we’re going to see some eye-watering returns next year. Only headwind for property prices is iron ore, depending on whether Xi holds the line on unwinding China’s much worse property ponzi.

Winston Smith
October 7, 2021 1:10 pm

Rosie:
Per your question last night:
“Winston I have probably missed most of the discussion and you no doubt would know but possibly severe crusted scabies?”
Australian Prescribing Information.
One of the advantages of Ivermectin, as seen in the table below, is that it is a one shot dose. For there to be a repeat oral dose, I would assume a fairly heavy infestation that isn’t responsive to topical application possibly because of the crust being a physical barrier.

Roger
Roger
October 7, 2021 1:11 pm

It’s funny, NSW has had many “Catholic” premiers. I don’t recall any controversy re O’Farrell or Keneally or Iemma or Greiner or Unsworth.

I remember when KKK was put into power…the ABC described her as a “staunch Catholic”.

LOL.

Tom
Tom
October 7, 2021 1:15 pm

Good to see you here, Fisk.

Roger
Roger
October 7, 2021 1:16 pm

Henry Cooke, New Zealand’s chief political correspondent for the media outlet Stuff, wrote that “Kiwis bear a grudge towards Australia, the source of our outbreak”.

Isn’t it time we stopped letting the Trevor Chappell incident come between us?

Dot
Dot
October 7, 2021 1:20 pm

Is there any COVID vaccine in Australia that was produced in a manner consistent with Christian teaching?

Bueller?

DaFisk
DaFisk
October 7, 2021 1:20 pm

Does Infidel know of this place? I don’t have him on my rolodex. Someone tell IT!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2021 1:21 pm

Some stuff about colour to soothe fevered brows.

And thanks Lotocoti, I’ve just ordered a copy to be sent to my old mum, who is an artist. She’s also daughter of a chemical engineering professor. I think she might like it.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 7, 2021 1:22 pm

Bruce in WA-
good to hear your genuine plug for Carpe Diem- I’ve known the family since before they emigrated, good bunch.
WA- in particular, and I suspect Australia in general- has long been populated by just a very few clones of fairly ordinary Merlot. I’ve suspected that there may have been a bit of importation of a few new genetics in amongst the packing crates. Nonetheless, selling Merlot to the crowds is uphill battle. Cellar doors, tasting one-on-one, is the only way to turn heads.

rosie
rosie
October 7, 2021 1:22 pm

All this is about Dominic Perrottet having six children.
If only he only had only two or three.

DaFisk
DaFisk
October 7, 2021 1:23 pm

The BRI in Malaysia – an absolute bust. It brought no wealth at all. Just a slew of cancelled projects and corruption.

https://thediplomat.com/2021/10/what-happened-to-chinas-bri-projects-in-malaysia/

cohenite
October 7, 2021 1:25 pm

One of my favorite stories is The Potters of Firsk by Jack Vance

What a loss Jack is; I continually re-read his books.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 7, 2021 1:26 pm

The Mocker didn’t notice Ardern’s quiet introduction of Vaxx Passports?

DaFisk
DaFisk
October 7, 2021 1:26 pm

Boris Johnson announces the end of the low-wage population ponzi model:

https://twitter.com/BloombergUK/status/1445702975305834496

“The answer to the present stresses and strains… is not to reach for that same old lever of uncontrolled immigration”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2021 1:26 pm

Isn’t it time we stopped letting the Trevor Chappell incident come between us?

Also possums.
Ok, there’s 100 million of them in NZ, but that just makes their forgiveness have real impact.

cohenite
October 7, 2021 1:27 pm

Japan Making ‘Preparations’ for Possible Chinese Attack of Taiwan

None of this would be happening if the demorats had not cheated Trump out of victory. The fraudulent election I think will be regarded as one of the pivotal points of modern history.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 7, 2021 1:27 pm

“From Australia, we watched in shock, scepticism or admiration,” wrote Tingle.

The ABC always seems to get moist at the sight of tyrannical policy ruthlessly applied if it is the one they like. Enough of the shilly-shallying of the unenlightened masses. Time for someone strong to say what must be said, and do what must be done.

Always ends in starvation, poverty and despair.

They are also very glib about economic damage as if it is how capitalism feeds on people and should be severed from society, even though they keep heaping praise on countries that allow their economies to falter and the people are the ones who suffer.

They would change their tune if their funding was related to the value adding economy. When the people do it hard, let the ABC share the hardship.

rosie
rosie
October 7, 2021 1:29 pm

Winston
If you clicked on my link to the TGA site you would have seen the dosage tables for various levels of cases of crusted scabies.
The dosages on the Twitter prescription were pretty much exact for ‘severe crusted scabies’ two days in a row, a one week interval then another two days in a row.
Reading the TGA site seems scabies is a remote community endemic condition with babies typically getting infected at 2 months.
I know for a fact though that people in aged care and atsi aren’t the only people that get it.

Tom
Tom
October 7, 2021 1:29 pm

Tucker Carlson Tonight: Biden abusing DOJ power to brand parents domestic terrorists.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 7, 2021 1:31 pm

the ABC described her as a “staunch Catholic”

She did try to staunch the flows of ideas Catholics might hold.

If she were a medic she would apply tourniquets to people’s necks.

srr
srr
October 7, 2021 1:34 pm

Crossiesays:
October 7, 2021 at 10:49 am

Lizzie, codral is sold as a treatment for all other corona viruses but not this one. Isn’t it convenient that there is nothing you can use?

Not only that but while we’re told to isolate, get tested, isolate some more, stay away from the doctors and Take No Medication, if we think we sneeze or have a throat tickle, Codral is STILL being sold with it’s, what, 40 year old “Soldier On”, hook.

Can you imaging someone this sick doing this today, all that opposite to social distancing –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4zZ2ker1iI

And all this close contact while nose blowing, and oldies & kiddies all mixed & socialising together –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KT6lVzMsto

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 7, 2021 1:35 pm

I know for a fact though that people in aged care and atsi aren’t the only people that get it.

Ive had plain old scabies.
Shitty itchy stuff.
Had a few outbreaks in detention centers, generally caught on the boats bringing people across or while they were in Indo.
Anywhere you have poor hygiene, lack of washing facilities and people crammed in close proximity.

https://www.healthywa.wa.gov.au/Articles/S_T/Scabies
Scabies can spread rapidly under crowded conditions where close body and skin contact is frequent. Institutions such as nursing homes, extended-care facilities and prisons are often sites of scabies outbreaks. Child care facilities also are a common site of scabies infestations.

great idea cramming the kids into prole holes.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 7, 2021 1:36 pm

Henry Cooke, New Zealand’s chief political correspondent for the media outlet Stuff, wrote that “Kiwis bear a grudge towards China Australia, the source of our outbreak”.

FIFY.

rosie
rosie
October 7, 2021 1:37 pm

I’ve never heard of any covid trial with that interval btw.
It’s either three or five days continuous. Looks like that screenshot was a nothinburger from someone who didn’t know ivermectin is still regularly prescribed in Australia for more difficult parasitical
infections.

rosie
rosie
October 7, 2021 1:40 pm

There’s also our good friend hand foot and mouth rampant in day care.
Child care facilities in north and west Melbourne have had quite a few covid cases in the last few weeks, though it seems to be adults doing the spreading when you look at the exposure time frames.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 7, 2021 1:41 pm

A fair bit of (cough) “legal advice” on employment law being dispensed here, some of it from couch warriors who won’t be losing their jobs if their theories fail in practice.
I would suggest those facing an imminent clash with their employers try to research what the law is, rather than what some would like it to be.
Whatever decision you make, at least be aware of the range of possible outcomes (one of which might be joining the ranks of the couch QCs).

P
P
October 7, 2021 1:41 pm

If we’re different, others will want what we possess
By Dr Philippa Martyr -October 7, 2021

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2021 1:42 pm

Unperson.

Colorado woman denied kidney transplant because she’s unvaccinated (6 Oct)

“This is for everyone’s safety.” Amazing.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 7, 2021 1:42 pm

Bit of fun for us dads at “school pickup” is to yell “GET A JOB!!!” out the car window to any other bloke you know seen on foot. Doesn’t matter if there are kids with him or not, all part of the fun. (One bloke was even having a tense quiet negotiation with his recently separated wife- told me it actually helped his cause, softened her view of him doing it solo.)
Anyway, found out that the school P&C has flagged it as “hate speech” and is trying to find the perpetrators, school counsellor (replaced Chaplain) is talking to small groups of senior students (ie 11-y-o’s) about it.
Got to say, it firms the observation that any organization which is not explicitly right-wing will become left-wing. Schools, states more than public, are open books for the imposition of leftist trends, programs, edicts and judgements.

John H.
John H.
October 7, 2021 1:43 pm

DaFisksays:
October 7, 2021 at 1:08 pm
Great news for landlords!

Domain has released its June Rental Vacancy Report, which has reported extreme tightness across most markets:

With a supply crunch looming we’re going to see some eye-watering returns next year. Only headwind for property prices is iron ore, depending on whether Xi holds the line on unwinding China’s much worse property ponzi.

There have been warnings about initiatives to control the property market. Tightened lending rules or something like that. Won’t make any difference.

Winston Smith
October 7, 2021 1:46 pm

Raw Shark:

By the way – have you read Haldeman’s Forever War? It was meant to be an anti-jingoistic reply to Starship Troopers – but I reread it recently and it is kind of prophetic.

Forever War was great – one of the instant classics.
Forever Peace, the sequel, was interminable crap. Unfinishable.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2021 1:51 pm

I always reread Forever War and Starship Troopers as a back-to-back set. Many times. I’m like the obsessives who watch Sound of Music over and over, although I have to say the 21stC looks a whole lot more like Forever War than Sound of Music.

srr
srr
October 7, 2021 1:52 pm

thefrollickingmolesays:
October 7, 2021 at 11:53 am

Totally not a government cult.

Ask not what the NHS can do for us … but what we can do for the NHS
[…]

Google –
“nhs london olympics opening ceremony”
– read the panicked ‘Fact Checks’.

then switch to “Images”.

Winston Smith
October 7, 2021 2:00 pm

Rawshark:

China warns World War Three could be triggered ‘at any time.
State-backed newspaper said there is ‘almost no room for manoeuvre, teetering on the edge of a face-off’
It claimed that China was ready for all-out war with the US, warning that Taiwan was ‘playing with fire’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10063171/China-warns-World-War-Three-triggered-time.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline

Well.
That escalated quickly!

Delta A
Delta A
October 7, 2021 2:01 pm

Tomsays:
October 7, 2021 at 1:29 pm
Tucker Carlson Tonight: Biden abusing DOJ power to brand parents domestic terrorists.

Thanks, Tom.

This is extraordinary stuff, culminating in the AG’s conflict of interest re curriculum material. Corruption has become a rampant cancer in the USA since Biden stole the election.

PS: thanks for the toons, too. It must take quite some time collating them every day. Much appreciated.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 7, 2021 2:03 pm

Forever War struck me as extremely ham fisted shoehorning of Vietnam into Sci fi.

Ive read it and it left me cold.

DaFisk
DaFisk
October 7, 2021 2:06 pm

There have been warnings about initiatives to control the property market. Tightened lending rules or something like that. Won’t make any difference.

Interest rates will only go up if inflation spirals out of control or our banks can’t access overseas funding. As for lending rules, they did tighten over 2017-19: prices tanked, no one was happy (except FHBs) and we saw a swift return to ponzi pricing after the election.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 7, 2021 2:10 pm

Pronunciation in NZuddish please.

New Zealand’s Covid Response Minister, Chris Hipkins,

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2021 2:13 pm

Corruption has become a rampant cancer in the USA since Biden stole the election.

Hunter Biden is currently getting $500,000 per artwork.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2021 2:19 pm

Actually this is the link I recalled re Hunter Biden’s brilliance.

Report: Hunter Biden Peddles Paintings for $500K to Eric Garcetti and Moby in Los Angeles ‘Art’ Exhibit (5 Oct)

Disappointed with Moby, I thought there was a brain somewhere under the leftiness, since his music is good stuff.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 7, 2021 2:24 pm

Chris Hipkins

Kr’z H’pK’nz

rosie
rosie
October 7, 2021 2:25 pm

Just got a message from a customer in New Jersey.
Said he was familiar with our situation in Melbourne from the news and it was surreal meanwhile they are getting 1500 cases and 20 deaths a day but no restrictions anywhere.
At least we are famous.

P
P
October 7, 2021 2:26 pm

Today is the Feast Day of Our Lady of the Rosary.

Songs to Mary, Holy Mother of God | 10 Marian Hymns and Catholic Songs

Winston Smith
October 7, 2021 2:27 pm

John H:

Building ~100 aircraft a year. Modernising older frames. An emphasis on anti-ship missiles. Primarily aimed at defense(limited range). They are making us live in interesting times.
We cannot know the true capabilities of most modern forces. A war would help clear that up.

Most of the PLAAF are there to absorb Allied missiles and to carry a mass of them to saturate a fleet defence.
Don’t overthink this.

Baba
Baba
October 7, 2021 2:33 pm

China warns World War Three could be triggered ‘at any time.

Look what you made us do.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 7, 2021 2:34 pm

Kr’z H’pK’nz
Well done Rexie.

Almost too well done…???

Franx
Franx
October 7, 2021 2:35 pm

‘St Peter would care to disagree. And so would the One who gave him a second chance.’
The principle was not abrogated but upheld. St. Peter repented. He wept bitterly.
The truth is eternal to the mind of God.

srr
srr
October 7, 2021 2:36 pm

dover0beachsays:
October 7, 2021 at 11:58 am

Veritas drop. Pfizer also uses aborted human cell lines and worked assiduously to cover this up.

This was already known & mentioned around the Net early on but shut down as ‘Conspiracy bullshit’, just like a lot of other early warning alarm bells, being ‘discovered’/Admitted to now that they have enough people Jabbed up to turn them into Jab Pushers.

John H.
John H.
October 7, 2021 2:37 pm

Winston Smithsays:
October 7, 2021 at 2:27 pm
John H:

Building ~100 aircraft a year. Modernising older frames. An emphasis on anti-ship missiles. Primarily aimed at defense(limited range). They are making us live in interesting times.
We cannot know the true capabilities of most modern forces. A war would help clear that up.

Most of the PLAAF are there to absorb Allied missiles and to carry a mass of them to saturate a fleet defence.
Don’t overthink this.

Winston my comments are a summary of the video clip, not my thoughts.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2021 2:37 pm

Forever War struck me as extremely ham fisted shoehorning of Vietnam into Sci fi.

Other way ’round, Mole. It encapsulated Vietnam AND the seventies schtick into a novel. The qwerty stuff is seriously prophetic, if you’ve been keeping up with the news.

OTOH Starship Troopers encapsulates Patton. Must rewatch that movie some time.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 7, 2021 2:43 pm

Tasmanian is cool climate but I find the Pinots sometimes a little too plum-tasting for me. On the other hand a $30 Moorilla Praxis Pinot, lighter body with light tannins and more berry flavoured, is perfect for fried salmon. As the customers have become more sophisticated so have the products.

Australian wine has too much maker input. The characteristics of each region should be to the fore. Makers trying to make their wine taste like someone else’s seems pointless. Let the grape do the talking. Most wine drinkers wouldn’t have the slightest clue which region a wine comes from little as to what variety. That includes wine buffs. Go to a wine options competition you’ll see what I mean. We used to do a blind tasting often. Wynnes Black Label Cabernet, Coonawarra; Penfolds Kalimna Bin 28 Shiraz, Barossa (suspect from other areas as well); Seaview Shiraz Cabernet (don’t think available anymore), McLarenvale; These were about $10 a bottle at the time. Now we knew what we were tasting. Tasters, a friend 400doz cellar. My wife, national wine options winner and me, 50doz cellar. The results were different all the time. We usually only drink European wine these days, less hystamines and more honest taste.

John H.
John H.
October 7, 2021 2:47 pm

DaFisksays:
October 7, 2021 at 2:06 pm
There have been warnings about initiatives to control the property market. Tightened lending rules or something like that. Won’t make any difference.

Interest rates will only go up if inflation spirals out of control or our banks can’t access overseas funding. As for lending rules, they did tighten over 2017-19: prices tanked, no one was happy (except FHBs) and we saw a swift return to ponzi pricing after the election.

Fisked I glanced at the news the other day with some report about APRA tightening the rules again. It’s moot, the problem isn’t loose lending. The price surges now are unprecedented. 22% in my region. Even regional centres are seeing huge spikes and housing shortages. Wages flat prices skyrocketing. That’s not a good long term plan.
https://www.apra.gov.au/news-and-publications/apra-increases-banks%E2%80%99-loan-serviceability-expectations-to-counter-rising

shatterzzz
October 7, 2021 2:48 pm

Well so much for trying to get into my myguv .. health page .. filling all the details without much bother until the question .. bank account Medibank re-imbursements paid too? ..
Last time I claimed on Medibank they were still using cash .. LOL!

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 7, 2021 2:51 pm

Ah yes. Pinot.

And soda water.
Almost as good as single malt and coke.

shatterzzz
October 7, 2021 2:54 pm

Forever War struck me as extremely ham fisted shoehorning of Vietnam into Sci fi.

I came across a 3 volume edition in an op-shop several months .. book 1 I enjoyed .. book 2 started to get a bit repetitive and boring thru halfway & book 3 I found duller than a GLADYS lockdown never got past the 1st chapter ……..

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 7, 2021 2:57 pm

Almost too well done…???

Nah. Just hung around enough Kiwis forong enough to know that the accent is based around hard consonant sounds and dropping vowels. Swapping vowel sounds is a Maori/Islander thing…

rickw
rickw
October 7, 2021 2:59 pm

Just had a head to head with my boss’s boss:

– Acknowledged that Israel and Iceland are examples of Pfizer not doing what it said it would on the tin.

– Completely unaware of Human Rights Charter of Victoria 2006, Section 10 C.

Oh, and I just found out about some additional staff that had been hospitalised after their fucking jab.

Holding The Line!

cohenite
October 7, 2021 3:01 pm

Fisked I glanced at the news the other day with some report about APRA tightening the rules again. It’s moot, the problem isn’t loose lending. The price surges now are unprecedented. 22% in my region. Even regional centres are seeing huge spikes and housing shortages. Wages flat prices skyrocketing. That’s not a good long term plan.
https://www.apra.gov.au/news-and-publications/apra-increases-banks%E2%80%99-loan-serviceability-expectations-to-counter-rising

I was puzzled by the increases since the overseas money, particularly the chunks have been cut off; it appears to be driven by internal factors which I reckon are mainly 2-fold: effectively no interest rates and secondly that a lot of people are doing very well out of the chunk virus and perhaps a move away from the cities by people who have managed to capitalise on the city prices, which are still holding, and transferring that price structure to selected coastal areas (ie Casaurina) with some trickle down effect to other non-city areas.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 7, 2021 3:03 pm

I don’t think Pair’o’tits is a papist. I certainly hope he follows none of the Frankies mutterings. His own upbringing will carry him through. He still is just a politician. We will see.

MatrixTransform
October 7, 2021 3:04 pm

Completely unaware of Human Rights Charter of Victoria 2006, Section 10 C

fucking mongs

srr
srr
October 7, 2021 3:09 pm

Thank You,

rickw
October 7, 2021 at 2:59 pm

Just had a head to head with my boss’s boss:

– Acknowledged that Israel and Iceland are examples of Pfizer not doing what it said it would on the tin.

– Completely unaware of Human Rights Charter of Victoria 2006, Section 10 C.

Oh, and I just found out about some additional staff that had been hospitalised after their fucking jab.

Holding The Line!

For both holding the line & doing it in a morale boosting way.
You’re much appreciated.

Woolfe
Woolfe
October 7, 2021 3:10 pm

Friend of mine just returned from a trip to NT from the Peopled Democratic Republic of McClown Inc.

Arrival in NT, couple of back packers checking docs, out of airport in 5 minutes.

Arrival back in PDRMc (Inc).
Half an hour grilling by Stasi, filling in forms on line (that won’t download), temp checks, document checks, hand sanitiser, more grilling, eventually released by armed sulky Stasi.

We are sooooooo stuffed.

John H.
John H.
October 7, 2021 3:10 pm

cohenitesays:
October 7, 2021 at 3:01 pm
Fisked I glanced at the news the other day with some report about APRA tightening the rules again. It’s moot, the problem isn’t loose lending. The price surges now are unprecedented. 22% in my region. Even regional centres are seeing huge spikes and housing shortages. Wages flat prices skyrocketing. That’s not a good long term plan.
https://www.apra.gov.au/news-and-publications/apra-increases-banks%E2%80%99-loan-serviceability-expectations-to-counter-rising

I was puzzled by the increases since the overseas money, particularly the chunks have been cut off; it appears to be driven by internal factors which I reckon are mainly 2-fold: effectively no interest rates and secondly that a lot of people are doing very well out of the chunk virus and perhaps a move away from the cities by people who have managed to capitalise on the city prices, which are still holding, and transferring that price structure to selected coastal areas (ie Casaurina) with some trickle down effect to other non-city areas.

Another explanation I heard is that when people think a crisis is imminent they go for the safe option. Real Estate investment=money in the mattress. Low interest rates might also release funds from bonds and banks in search of a new safe place that offers a better return prospect.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 7, 2021 3:11 pm

Ah yes. Pinot.

And soda water.

Ah -like a sparkling rosé.

YOU HEAR THAT? I SAID ROSÉ!

GreyRanga,

That is what I find, though. Smaller vineyards are more inclined to try things out. The owners, managers and farmhands are all the same people, and they take personal pride in what they produce. Most will fade, sell up, or whatever, but there is a process of evolution.

Europeans have a few centuries on us. Hell, Chateau Ausone takes its name from a Roman called Ausonius who retired there and although borders have fluctuated that is a long history. (Just looked it up – it is in St Emilion. Premier Grand Cru.)

Lysander
Lysander
October 7, 2021 3:12 pm

Re: Chyna

Remember when the Muesli’s invaded Israel in the Yom Kippur war… from memory, they made it look like they were going to invade every day and never did. Until they did.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 7, 2021 3:12 pm

Shut up, dickhead.

Dover you’ve been hanging round the Newcat too often. You never would have said that on the old Cat.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 7, 2021 3:14 pm

“With this outbreak, and Delta, the return to zero is incredibly difficult,” Ardern said. It was, wrote Jack Tame, the host of New Zealand’s Q + A program, “a frustrating and confusing watch for anyone trying to understand the Government’s true position on the state of the Delta outbreak and its strategy from this point forth”.

Ah, yes.
Delta.
Or, as they say on the six o’clock news … “[long meaningful pause] … DELL-TAHHHH!”
Anyone got any stats on the difference between Kung Flu 1.0 and Deadly Devious Dastardly Delta?
And, if you have, can you slide a Tally-Ho ciggy paper between the two data sets?

DaFisk
DaFisk
October 7, 2021 3:15 pm

I was puzzled by the increases since the overseas money, particularly the chunks have been cut off; it appears to be driven by internal factors which I reckon are mainly 2-fold: effectively no interest rates and secondly that a lot of people are doing very well out of the chunk virus and perhaps a move away from the cities by people who have managed to capitalise on the city prices, which are still holding, and transferring that price structure to selected coastal areas (ie Casaurina) with some trickle down effect to other non-city areas.

There is nothing else to invest in. You can’t even keep your money in cash because interest rates are zero. So people throw everything at the one asset class that does have returns.

Lysander
Lysander
October 7, 2021 3:16 pm

We are sooooooo stuffed.

Woolfie, wait until after the next WA Election 2025… the Upper House will be entirely metro, and entirely Labor (ok, maybe one Lib…). The PDRMc is one of the worst places in Australia to live at the moment.

And the WA media playing frosted images of him to mellifluous music makes me vomit. He is worse than Andrews and the one-horse media town here is complicit.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 7, 2021 3:18 pm

Lode earlier on whine …

That is what I find, though. Smaller vineyards are more inclined to try things out. The owners, managers and farmhands are all the same people, and they take personal pride in what they produce.

The other factor, as I understand it, is that the appellation d’origine contrôlée mobs do a lot of controlee-ing, which makes innovation and experimentation a little difficult, unless you are happy to drop the appellation d’origine contrôlée branding advantage.

Lysander
Lysander
October 7, 2021 3:18 pm

Yesterday, someone tweeted a photo of them leaving a Melbourne hospital recovering from ChinaFlu.

They had with them…. ivermectin! 😛

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 7, 2021 3:18 pm

Rex Angersays:
October 7, 2021 at 2:57 pm
Almost too well done…???

Nah. Just hung around enough Kiwis forong enough to know that the accent is based around hard consonant sounds and dropping vowels. Swapping vowel sounds is a Maori/Islander thing…
***
There seem to be three main categories:
(a) ones who sound a lot like middle class Australians;
(b) the vowel free zone ones; and
(c ) the random vowel generators.
Rex , you seem to be saying that random vowel generation is a Maori/Islander thing but I’ve known some paheka who do it.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 7, 2021 3:20 pm

Ah -like a sparkling rosé.

I’ll stay with the soda water.

Lysander
Lysander
October 7, 2021 3:21 pm

I’m writing a list of “uncomfortable truths” for Leftards. Happy for you to help me along but here’s my start:

– Keating and Hawke both hated the ABC;
– Whitlam was a racist

DaFisk
DaFisk
October 7, 2021 3:21 pm

Another explanation I heard is that when people think a crisis is imminent they go for the safe option. Real Estate investment=money in the mattress. Low interest rates might also release funds from bonds and banks in search of a new safe place that offers a better return prospect.

Actually, the ASX is up around 50% over 18 months, so there were other options.

Lysander
Lysander
October 7, 2021 3:22 pm

Anyone got any stats on the difference between Kung Flu 1.0 and Deadly Devious Dastardly Delta?

One is a minor irritant and the other is quite cute?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 7, 2021 3:24 pm

On wine.
There is Temper-knee-oh first.
Daylight second.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 7, 2021 3:27 pm

Rex , you seem to be saying that random vowel generation is a Maori/Islander thing but I’ve known some paheka who do it.

OK.

Same as I have heard Southwestern Poms who sound identical to Aussies in my ears, and someone from the USA who has only encountered country Queenslanders might think that all Australians drawl thru their teeth and with their mouths mostly shut to keep the flies out.

The best one, though, is the received wisom that classical piratespeak involves slow, drawling west-country speak and gratuitous Yaaarrrr! All down to a single English actor who played Long John Silver in Disney’s 1934 rendition of Treasure Island. The man was Cornish, and went full ham on his accent for the movie. And the culture has accepted this without question for the past century. Poor Sir Francis Drake, though. Could you imagine someone like him trying to Yaaaarrrr? 🙂

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 7, 2021 3:27 pm

quite cute

Could this be how the whole scare started?

Q. What about this covid thing?
A. It is a cute little thing.

Interpreted as “acute little thing”

Lysander
Lysander
October 7, 2021 3:29 pm

IR lol!

I don’t know how Jude Bolton ever let her go…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2021 3:31 pm

book 2 started to get a bit repetitive and boring

The problem with Haldeman is his sequels to Forever War are good ordinary SFs.
But compared with his other stuff like All My Sins Remembered and Mindbridge they pale.
I must reread Mindbridge again. A very sharp and spiky story.

John H.
John H.
October 7, 2021 3:32 pm

DaFisksays:
October 7, 2021 at 3:21 pm
Another explanation I heard is that when people think a crisis is imminent they go for the safe option. Real Estate investment=money in the mattress. Low interest rates might also release funds from bonds and banks in search of a new safe place that offers a better return prospect.

Actually, the ASX is up around 50% over 18 months, so there were other options.

Could that be from super funds changing their investment options?

Delta A
Delta A
October 7, 2021 3:32 pm

Anyone got any stats on the difference between Kung Flu 1.0 and Deadly Devious Dastardly Delta?

One is a minor irritant and the other is quite cute?

Ohh, Lysander. (Blush.)

🙂

amortiser
amortiser
October 7, 2021 3:33 pm

Bruce of Newcastle:

It’s a significant moral question, but not a fatal error in my personal conscience, based on Peter’s letter to the Gentiles. Pfizer haven’t been covering themselves in glory lately though.

Not a fatal error? It was fatal for the foetus.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2021 3:34 pm

Cernovich
@Cernovich
Gonna quit my job as a middle manager, go on 60 Minutes, log into my brand new verified Twitter account, go to Capitol Hill for a hearing, and then cash out my GoFundMe for legal and PR firm fees that the DNC already paid.

I am the Whistle Blower.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 7, 2021 3:35 pm

I’m writing a list of “uncomfortable truths” for Leftards. Happy for you to help me along but here’s my start:

– Keating and Hawke both hated the ABC;
– Whitlam was a racist

-WA Labor has crapped on the West Australian Government Railways /Wesyrail and its successors far harder and far longer than Charles Court and his hated Tories ever did. And still do.*

-A Labor government recommitted Australian troops to Afghanistan in 2008, then denied them nearly all resources necessary to achieve their mission. And sniped from the sidelines.

-Thousands more refugees died at sea and languished in offshore detention under 4 years of ‘compassionate’ Labor government, than did under either the preceding Howard or subsequent Abbot/Turnbull/Morrison regimes.

(*Persistent WA Meme amongst older ex-railwaymen, activists and enthusiasts. Happy to expand on this story one day, for those who are interested in a Rexian Ramble…)

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 7, 2021 3:35 pm

I know a geriatric joke about “acute agina”
I can post if y’all haven’t heard it.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2021 3:37 pm

Frank Herbert and Joe Haldeman are similar. I can’t read the sequels to Dune either, they are so dull by comparison. But other stuff by Frank Herbert is brilliant, like The Dosadi Experiment and The Dragon In The Sea. Just not the Dune sequels.

Lysander
Lysander
October 7, 2021 3:37 pm

Ohh, Lysander. (Blush.)

Well I walked right into that one didn’t I! 😛

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 7, 2021 3:37 pm

Only if it’s been double-vaccinated…

cohenite
October 7, 2021 3:38 pm

Latest IPA report showing kean’s rush to renewables will cost over 600,000 jobs mainly in nat electorates. Some nat pollies had better start waking up:

https://ipa.org.au/ipa-today/net-zero-hits-regional-workers-three-times-as-hard-ipa-report

Lysander
Lysander
October 7, 2021 3:38 pm

Thanks Rex
please do expand when you get the chance.. love a good railway story…

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 7, 2021 3:40 pm

“I have tinnitus and bad hearing.”
“I have acute angina.”
“good, it will make up for your sagging …”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2021 3:45 pm

kean’s rush to renewables

Kean says Perottet is a great guy.

Dom the best man for NSW at this time (Daily Terror, 7 Oct, Paywalled)
Matt Kean

Everyone is sad to see Gladys Berejiklian go but the new leadership team of Dominic Perrottet and Stuart Ayres is putting its best foot forward, writes Matt Kean.

Not a good sign.

Diogenes
Diogenes
October 7, 2021 3:45 pm

Completely unaware of Human Rights Charter of Victoria 2006, Section 10 C.

I was doing some mandatory training (name down for casual work with QDoE) and discovered that Queensland also has a human rights act.
Hands up all Queenslanders who knew !

JC
JC
October 7, 2021 3:48 pm

A couple of days ago, Faulty 2 put up a link for someone claiming to be a doc on a website called Market ticker. It appeared to be bullshit, but I thought I’d have it checked by someone who actually does have a world wide reputation in the virus/molecular field with a medical degree and specialist research degree from either Oxford or Cambridge. He’s an in-law of one of my pals. Anyways, I thought the Faulty 2 comment was crap as it mentioned how RNA is destroyed by vaxes etc . My guy says it’s true, but RNA only has a very short life cycle as the body replaces the old junk. Faulty 2’s expert never mentioned this of course, which is therefore a lie by omission.

Here is the response to Faulty 2’s stupid link. It’s tailor made to the link, which I sent to him.

Hi JC, I guess the question is whether one should buy shares in Merck or not, rather than whether you should take drug when testing positive as it is way too soon to speculate on any side effects. From a clinical point of it looks pretty effective in reducing viral replication and if taken early enough reduces your risk of hospitalisation. As the trial data has not yet been published I would assume the study group would have been high risk unvaccinated individuals as the hospitalisation rate of 15% in the control group is very high. That would therefore be the primary group in which the drug would eventually be licensed, with the advice that it is given as soon as a positive diagnosis is made and before hospitalisation. When it comes to safety, the author is right, it is a cytidine nucleoside (RNA and DNA building block) analog but differs from current nucleoside analog antivirals which are what we call chain terminators (completely stops replication). This one induces a analog switch during virus replication and at the subsequent copy for the new RNA the analog can either be read as a cytidine or uridine. It is therefore a new method of action and Merck will have to prove that there are no short and long term side effects. As it is only taken for 5 days and I would assume the affinity for the viral enzyme (RNA polymerase) would be thousands fold higher than for human DNA polymerase (if DNA polymerase can actually use it – I don’t know) one would assume it is very virus specific and will not affect human cell replication or change human DNA. It may at a low level affect human RNA but that is not a huge problem as RNA is short lived. That being said, I agree, foetal development in the first 6 weeks will be a crucial time where the molnupiravir may have some influence. I would therefore assume one of the requirements will be a pregnancy test before giving the drug. The biggest problem would be possible long term effects eg increased cancer risk in a small number of people as this will not be apparent for a long time. One can however make pretty good predictions based on whether human cell DNA polymerases incorporates the drug or not (human RNA polymerase may to some extend but with minimal effect or side effects) . I haven’t studied this yet, but I have full confidence in our regulatory bodies like FDA to take all this into account before licensing a new drug. As with all COVID related things, time will tell.

To summarize, Faulty 2
1/ Got the stuff about RNA wrong as it was omitted from his link.
2/ He fucked up with the stats from the Zero Hedge link showing he’s statistically innumerate
3/ He lied about Iver not being available in the US as I proved by calling CVS they would happily fill a prescription for the drug. CVS is either the largest or second largest drug chain in the US.

Score , so far is 3/0 in my favor.
The point, don’t fucking listen to this lunatic as he’s absolutist fruitcake.

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