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JC: You can’t have a “frank discussion” with your quack because they are under threat of sanction if they deviate from the official line that the vax is the best thing since sliced bread and only tin-foil hatters could doubt all the good it is doing them.
The Pharmacist Society has told members NOT to fill scrips for ivermectin, placing the vendors of jelly beans and Dr Scholls’ Corn Pads between patient and physicians. If that doestn’t ring alarm bells, nothing will.
The TGA, likewise.
The fix is in. Simple as that.
I suppose it all depends whether you think covid represents a greater risk to your life than a potential adverse reaction to the jab.
What’s the CUMULATIVE risk from each jab plus boosters every 6 months. Keep rolling the dice and take a look at Ted Nugent’s video I posted earlier.
Rosie – I would agree with you except the Covid vaccines aren’t normal vaccines. The fluvax, which I had again in June, is a normal killed-virus vaccine grown in eggs, as I understand it. It therefore presents the flu strain coat to the immune system freely floating in the bloodstream.
The Covid vaccines now available do not do that. Instead they are designed to enter existing cells then produce the spike protein, which is presented to the immune system on the surface of normal cells.
That causes three issues that fluvax probably doesn’t: (1) it can cause the immune system to believe the cells are infected, thereby causing inflammation and those cells to be destroyed (2) it can cause those cells, eg. lining blood vessels, to fuse with free floating blood cells with the ACE2 receptor (or other that are similar). Fusing blood cells to each other or to blood vessel walls may be where the clotting problem comes from (which the virus itself also does). (3) the appearance on the surfaces of cells can also cause the immune system to latch on nearby parts of the cell – inappropriate ones – thereby leading to autoimmune diseases. I have persistent allergies due to exactly this issue – through cytokines the immune system amps up and attacks things it thinks are foreign, like pollen. Or human cells it thinks are foreign.
So yes I agree with you…if the vaccines and the boosters were free floating particles. Unfortunately Novavax is having difficulties in production, or it would more likely fit the bill.
Rosie, you have “conceived”, you’ve “pre-conceived”.
I tell you what: when I get a moment I’ll head over the Footscray Hospital and hang out at ER admissions for a few hours. Bet I meet victims of the vax reaction.
But plenty of real world evidence to show that they don’t. Otherwise, why the high infection rates in the most vaccinated countries?
But they would move heaven and earth to stop you using Ivermectin or HCQ, neither of which would harm, even if they didn’t cure, which IT IS KNOWN that they do.
And people say there’s no conspiracy. It’s hard to think of a bigger one.
People have never worried about the cumulative effects of flu vaccines but now we should worry about cumulative effects of covid vaccines.
I’m not saying there aren’t some serious reactions and some deaths from the vaccines, all I’m saying is that’s a risk you need to weigh up in relation to your covid risk.
And considering how many million Victorians have now been vaccinated I think, even here, the news that hospitals are being overwhelmed by people with adverse reactions might have leaked out.
So, the synagogue I attend will reopen next Monday however it is now only for those who have been double vaccinated. They will require, for entry to the Shule, proof of vaccinations…such as a digital vaccination certificate or a printed copy of proof of vaccination. The synagogue will maintain a register of proof of vaccinations.
Great world we live in.
Ivermectin can harm, why do people claim otherwise?
It us prescribed for a couple of number of illnesses including river blindness and like all drugs has potential adverse side effects.
Ps I don’t care if people take it or not.
Quoting doc Mengles or not, you obviously agree with him , eyrie. You don’t away that easily. More to the question, do you even fucking know what mengles is saying or do you agree because it suits your bias. You ridiculous c..t
If some die due to adverse vaxx reactions just remember, others suffer no ill effects and get to travel internationally.
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Yep.
It feels like squid has taken a dump behind my face.
Being free to make my own decisions in these matters is all I have ever asked. I don’t see it happening.
rosie, Ivermection is very safe even in large overdoses. Safer than Panadol by a long way. In any case there’s lots of information out there on the correct dosage for the Wuflu.
Areff – There’s an article/video over at Sky News that says 4 northern Qld hospitals have declared Code Yellow. I didn’t bother to watch the video to find out why – since Qld has no Covid cases, or very few.
Health experts lift lid on QLD’s ‘unprecedented’ hospital crisis, claim system won’t cope with a COVID outbreak (6 Oct)
Nowhere in the long article does it say why ED admissions have been increasing.
I wonder…
Judging from media stories I’m pretty sure ivermectin was only harmful for about 10 days over late August early September. Just before Pfizermectin and Molnupiravir hit the news.
The governments, medical profession etc are all primed to say the bad effects are nothing to do with the clot shot. The myocarditis effect in young males is proven and they are at little to no risk from the Wuflu.
I’ve no idea if this is real or the lady even exists but if true it is interesting:
https://www.deepcapture.com/2021/09/affidavit-of-ltc-theresa-long-m-d-in-support-of-a-motion-for-a-preliminary-injunction-order/
Yea eyrie, I’m going to read to a fruitcake who posts opinions on market ticker no less.
I’d rather listen to Alex Jones for an opinion, you clown.
That’s the problem. You can’t. The doctors have been nobbled. There’s a link to a petition on this very page to free them from the suppression order to enable them to have a frank discussion on this topic with their patients. At this point, they are nothing more than vaccine salesmen.
Dr Hansen said the number of patients presenting to emergency departments have gone up 10 to 20 per cent in a lot of hospitals across the state.
It’s a mystery I tells ya. Don’t bet on ever finding out any real details.
That implies that there are many others that we don’t hear about, which would increase, not decrease the overall incidence.
JC is about as bad as Numbers used to be on the dead Cat. Go trade some stocks or something. If you are actually any good at it or that’s what you did. I hope you were better at it than you are on everything else.
Areff
Don’t prejudge. Just go speak to the doc and see what he says.
Or go see my cardio who is not taken in with bullshit.
Whatever you do, don’t listen to a fucker on the web posting links to market fucking ticker.
Bar Beach Swimmer
BTW what happened to our yellow and orange – vested “freedom fighters”?
They stopped protesting after only a few days and now they are all back at work. Did they all get the jab in the end?
What are you saying baba?
That no-one dies of covid?
Your comment implies that’s what you think.
I’m not going around telling people that drugs x and y are risk free and it’s too dangerous to get vaccinated, better to take your chances with covid.
It might be for some, but that’s the discussion JC suggests you have with your GP.
This is science.
From a plough repairer.
Rosie – That’s because, unlike fluvax, every time you have a Covid vaccine or booster you are coating random cells in your body with viral coat spike proteins, which are foreign interlopers. Different cells depending on how the injection is done, where it’s done and so on.
I’d be more comfortable with a patch or the nose spray that’s in development – the latter is designed since the virus apparently enters mainly via nose cells. (Recall that loss of smell is a common feature of the viral infection.) The advantage of a nasal spray is the spike proteins would be much more localized and not circulate so much or so quickly to places like the heart and elsewhere.
Clinical trial for nasal spray COVID-19 vaccine begins this week at Cincinnati Children’s Hospital (1 Oct)
COVID nasal spray vaccine set to enter clinical trial in Japan (29 Sep)
Meet the new faulty.
Eyrie, take a bow.
What are you saying baba?
That no-one dies of covid?
Jesus wept how did you make that out of this:
Judging from media stories I’m pretty sure ivermectin was only harmful for about 10 days over late August early September. Just before Pfizermectin and Molnupiravir hit the news.
On the other hand a nasal spray might cause autoimmune attack on olfactory cells, which could leave you with a long term sense of smell issue. That’s less dangerous than other autoimmune issues we’ve seen though.
Finally we get a super spreader event (an anti-vaxx protest, unsurprisingly). John Setka is available for comment,naturally.
JC, I’m not against doctors – they have their place. But the government has inserted itself between the doctor-patient relationship: now, and to the patient’s detriment, doctors can’t say anything adverse to the government line.
My relo who had the jab very early in the rollout – end March/early April, and had from the very next day after the first jab, 10 weeks of migraines and visual disturbances, is still suffering. She’s had a brain scan for clots but is on warfarin for other problems so nothing was found. She was put on beta blockers to get rid of the migraines but has had to go off them because of side-effects – and the migraines have returned.
After the first jab and side-effects, I cautioned her not to go in for the second one. Her doctor, despite knowing what had happened and what her other conditions are- previously, she’s had clots, though not heart etc related, then insisted she have the second one. Subsequently she had 10 days (iirc) sick in bed – really unwell. After that, she said she will not have any boosters.
She’s always been a bubbly person and has a face that lights up; she has aged unbelievably in these last few months and is asleep most of the time – and she’s not that old. When the scan came back negative, the doctor tried to put down the migraines to sinus – yes, she does get sinus but there’s a big difference between those two conditions. It’s clear imo that he doesn’t want to acknowledge her obvious decline and the obvious reason for it. We have no idea where this will end for her but at this stage it’s not looking great.
In my own case, my doctor’s surgery has twice called us to come in for the jab. If we’d gone in it would have been just with the nurse – not the doctor. So there would have been no discussion of our any concerns that we may have had.
In fact, the caller noted that she was ringing because she was going through the alphabet and had landed on our letter – so much for informed consent stuff – even when attending one’s own doctor’s surgery.
When I said no during the first call, she was affronted and tried to bully me. This is from someone with no medical training. The second time she called – some weeks later – she was more conciliatory. But both calls had a degree of intimidation – no matter how nice her tone was on the second one; a softer person would more than likely have relented
Though I would normally value what my doctor says, on this subject, imho, it’s not worth a drink of water.
JC – That looks a lot like projection. Give it away. Eyrie has a long established high tech business that operates in a very exacting and precise field, bringing in physics, electronics and chemistry – which is the area we’ve had contact about.
Just go speak to the doc and see what he says.
I’ve done that JC, when I got a referral to have some skin cancers removed. He mentioned that I get the flu shot and pneumonia every year and ‘why would you be worriedabout another vaccine”.
So I started on about mRNA tech, what’s going on in Israel, the possibility that a vax which allows you to get and pass on the virus without major symptoms also presents an opportunity for it to mutate.
His response: ‘You’ve done your research, so the decision is up to you.’
Sad to see some on here accept the ever- moving orthodoxy from the dopey mainstream wretches.
1. You don’t need masks.
2. You must wear masks.
3. Boogie on down to Chinatown.
4. DON”T LEAVE YOUR HOME!
5. Two weeks to flatten the curve.
6. Fucking damn near two years later.
7. Don’t take these Trump vaccines. Smirk.
8. The vaccine will never be mandatory.
9. The vaccines are mandatory.
10. Come off it, they’ll never make the kids get it.
11. All these contaminated anti- vaxx subhumans are killing people. Get them.
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Wake up to yourselves, you pathetic, scared dickheads.
i don’t see getting even bi annual boosters as a big deal
WTF.
Is Liverpool Hospital prescribing Ivermectin to COVID patients? If it’s fake, it’s a good one.
That right there is the problem. Doctors cannot have an honest discussion, relying on their medical training and years of experience, because AHPRA has threatened to deregister them if they do anything other than push the vax.
You would know this had you mad my posts about the petition to parliament to stop AHPRA !
Well, according to the now politically deceased Gulag Glad, those who had submitted to injection had “sacrificed” and “worked hard”.
Maybe she was referring to all the horrible adverse reactions obedient and/or cowed people had had, rather than just rolling up their sleeves. And, of course, that hideous ongoing niggle that somewhere, somehow, they had done something to damage their bodies.
I don’t think she’ll be alone.
Has any progressive actually bothered to explain what exactly they think a Catholic is going to do – and then give an example of one doing so just so as to show that there is a basis for their claims.
If they are worried a Catholic might challenge issues like abortion-on-demand, SSM, identity politics etc – well not everyone is on board with these things and perhaps those people are entitled to a champion and having their voices heard.
But, of course, that is the risk. Democracy is a threat to the progressive agenda, because if things were discussed people might decide they don’t like it.
Instead, they broadcast carefully crafted deceptive warm fuzzy messages about themselves, but they spend most of their time and effort spraying vile accusations, lies, innuendo, and even libel about their enemies, filling the papers, the interwebs and the airwaves, keeping the public focussed on their targets rather than risk anyone looking too closely at them.
And that strategy tells is what the left really is.
That ‘Liverpool Hospital’ scrip requires the taking of seven pills on three different days.
The label says it contains only 14 pills.
That should raise suspicion.
We are told about every single Covid death, so if emergency room presentation are going up dramatically, there must be another reason for it.
Brucie
He’s sending people to market ticker for vax science. FMD
And you’re supporting this bullshit?
He’s an absolutist fruitcake trying to frighten people about making their own decisions on the vax.
Let’s keep in mind that a short while ago you were advising masks don’t work under any circumstances which is nonsense as there’s no science supporting you’re stupid opinion.
We don’t know if masks work or not, so it becomes a risk management issue.
He’s faulty 11
Trump was cured of Covid by I-MASK, a treatment protocol with Ivermectin as the core medication.
Like hydroxychloriquine, the powers that be don’t want to research Ivermectin because it is ‘tainted’ by association with Trump.
Sounds like the sort of story a curious journalist would be all over.
The state of this country.
That’s the phone number they have on their website.
Liverpool hospital is ground zero for the unending GFAs-of-concern. And quite possibly a centre of vax-hesitancy given certain cultural communities in that area.
So, in a twist of reasoning, we can BLAME TRUMP!
Had to happen.
feelthebern 6.35 : All cancer drugs to be given emergency authorisation, check out Ivermectin cancer research.
I had the discussion with my GP well before the APHRA demands for doctors to cease and desist. So did the Prince. Both were more than comfortable with our decisions.
10 minute telehealth consult with the partner of my on leave rheumatologist last week was a total waste of the $380 I was slugged for it. Talked utter crap at me about my prednisolone dosage. “Don’t persist in weaning off it, increase the daily dosage times 5 for a few months. The Addisonian symptoms? Pffft! Nothing to worry about!” He then ordered me to get vaccinated. No ifs, buts or maybes.
Idiot. Well paid idiot, but idiot all the same.
Oops, meant “LGAs” local government areas, not “GFAs”. Brain explosion…I don’t even know if a GFA is a thing.
No.
The arm.
No JC that’s not what I said at all. I said that masks don’t work for a virus which is 0.1 micron in size, because you can’t design a mask with pore sizes that small and still breathe through it. The NF95s have a pore size around 3 microns as I recall. Which is thirty times bigger than the virus is.
I did say that masks can exclude bacteria, which are much bigger, and are the problem in surgical theatres, not viruses.
You have just shown that you don’t know much about science and that your memory is faulty.
It really is this simple.
If it is ‘safe’ enough to coerce into people, it should be safe enough for the TGA to give it Full Registration (as opposed to Provisional Registration).
They haven’t, and they won’t.
That should be the end of the argument.
The only ethical approach is: “Take it at your own risk, having been fully informed of the abridged approval process”.
What’s that win?
My call was based on the standards the COVID vaccines were held to, most cancer treatments in the pipeline should also be given emergency authorisation.
And they keep getting away with it because there’s no end of simps who back the bullies.
areffsays:
October 6, 2021 at 10:36 am
That ‘Liverpool Hospital’ scrip requires the taking of seven pills on three different days.
The label says it contains only 14 pills.
That should raise suspicion.
areff, I don’t see that as a problem. The prescription refers to the patient seeing their doctor for further supply – the 1×14 tablets for the two final days; the 20th & the 21st. That makes sense because hospitals are notorious for providing the bare minimum medication to the patient on release.
Amazing.
The local bus shelter has its opaque wall (the one that would not obstruct view of arriving buses) with those big screens for advertising and ‘community’ messages.
One of the recent messages that it cycles through is “If you see a woman being disrespected, do something!” (or it could be “say something” – I think they mean ‘say’ as they can hardly be telling people who see such a thing to cosh someone over the head with a baguette. Mind you, all people would do now is film it on their phones so maybe ‘do’ is correct after all.)
It just seems such a mean-spirited message. Only women? What about an elderly man? Is he not entitled to righteous intervention? What about a younger man being hectored and even pushed about by an abusive Karen or squat tramp-stamped bogan, but whose toxically masculine upbringing forbids him to ‘disrespect’ back?
All the permutations of ‘disrespect’ that are not mentioned, just to address a favoured one.
And what is ‘disrespect’ anyway. Is it another one of those words where the bugman class have taken as existing word, heaped a whole new load of definitions that they will expect everyone to accept – including the connotation that it is what all white men do to all women. What rises to the standard? A raised hand? A raised voice? Telling them they are being stupid? Asking them to shut up? Arguing where both give and take?
Stupid ad.
“H B Bearsays:
October 6, 2021 at 10:24 am
Finally we get a super spreader event (an anti-vaxx protest, unsurprisingly). John Setka is available for comment,naturally.”
******
And the fact that all seven purported victims are CFMEU staff, and none are protesters, is no grounds whatsoever for scepticism!
I don’t take flu shots, ever.
Had one bad flu, the year before Wu Flu, recovered at home with the usual home remedies.
Amazing in itself as it was a very cold winter & I had a puppy to house train which meant being out in the freeing at all hours.
Everyone I know who has regular flu shots, get regular flus, ‘just not as bad as it could have been’, they tell themselves.
Informed consent is like a Win98 EULA.
You’re not supposed to read and understand.
🙂
And that someone is the hero fighting that other global scam, ‘Only man becoming a cave dwelling animal can save the planet from the weather’, Tony Heller.
Trendy? Or gaudy?
Somehow I doubt he has much by way of taste, but has memorised a catalogue of expensive things that he thinks makes them stylish.
Just an impression.
Fat Tony says:
October 6, 2021 at 12:33 am
Western Civilisation:
Survived the First World War, the Fascists / Nazis & then the Soviets….
Now being comprehensively destroyed by the Satanic Alliance of Big Pharma, Big Tech/MSM and Big Government, funded by the CCP Crime Families. And not a shot fired.
I don’t think WestCiv actually did survive the First World War. It received its mortal wounds then and has been clinging to life ever since.
When its internal enemies realised at the end of the 60s that they needed to change their tactics, they began to kill it from the top downwards. – i.e., take over the rulers instead of the working classes. Their victory was complete by the 90s, just when we thought we’d defeated the Soviets and were safe.
Western Civilisation began the death spiral we currently experience in the early 70s – it’s just taken us 50 years to realise what happened.
Gab and areff are right.
Your doctor cannot give frank advice.
Possibly, BBS, but it strikes me as odd that only part of the prescribed course is available initially.
Covid is nature’s way of telling you that you’re a sick, old fuck and it’s time to shuffle off the planet.
Now piss off and stop telling everyone else how scared you are.
I don’t think so.
But you can always ask the triggering question:-
“Eyrie, are you now, or have you ever been, in a non-consensual, uni-directional platonic relationship with a luverly lady?”
Unless you are going to use (and enforce) life with no parole sentences or kill them convicted criminals will be released. At nearly 40 having spent around half his life in goal I don’t think many people would want to swap places with him.
There needs to be a better way to deal with sex offenders.
My theory is that there should be a island situation where all sex offenders can live permanently.
Zero internet, zero cellular coverage.
Give them a choice, the same old jail situation or permanent removal from society (the island).
The destruction these freaks cause is multi generational.
They can not be cured.
So there has to be a better way to address it.
callisays:
October 6, 2021 at 7:53 am
On another issue, any Cats with allergies noticing an increase in symptoms this year? I can’t help but think the pollen loads are immense. It has been affecting me for weeks.
My wife’s hay fever is worse than usual this spring.
“Football Australia to investigate allegations of sexual harassment, indecent assault in women’s football”
*******
I’ll take “Enquiries that will conclude that there were isolated instances in the past but everything’s fine now” for ten points, please.
I recently caught up with a friend who had the AZ vax earlier this year. Not sure why as he is not yet 50 but whatever. Not long after the first jab he thought he was having a heart attack. Many investigations later it turns out he has blood clots on both lungs. He was told the cause was “unspecified”.
Despite getting breathless easily and being warned not to exercise, he still got the second jab. I am having trouble understanding the thought process given it was not mandated in this case.
I was initially very concerned about what was going to come down the line for those who have had the jab. Now I am thinking that there is plenty of info out there and people can make their own decisions.
So does Julia Gillard live in London permanently now?
Just reading up on the Brittany Higgins situation.
Slim, your post reminded me.
The chap I know with COVID (the first & only person in Australia I know who caught it) has now gone home.
He caught COVID in hospital after he was admitted post an adverse reaction from his AZ shot.
So yes, my sex offender plan is to set up a real pedo island.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ChaChaC87311797/status/1445500799270801411
If the picture of the pill pack is legitimate, there is the possibility this fellow has a very nasty case of intestinal parasites. That “Combantrin” or the like just didn’t do the trick. The dosage indicated is much higher than necessary for that indication. Pretty unlikely in a place in the middle of Sydney.
JC knows all this, just as he let us all know how proud he is of his Biotech/Big Pharma Investments.
He is not the only Jab pusher invested in the industry, but for some reason we’re the bad guys if we take those rather relevant details into consideration when we’re deciding who’s word on opposing Jab opinions to give more credence to.
“Eyrie, are you now, or have you ever been, in a non-consensual, uni-directional platonic relationship with a luverly lady?”
As he revealed his real name on the dead Cat on a number of occasions I can assure you I am not Faulty.
BoN and a couple of other Cats know who I am.
BBS
Though I would normally value what my doctor says, on this subject, imho, it’s not worth a drink of water.
Possibly not even worth the end product of having a drink of water, were that product to be bottled.
JC says, ‘don’t prejudge, I’ll tell you how to find out I’m right’ –
Dykes are gay; and gays are queer people; yet they and a lot of other weird lefties determine policy and social norms:
Are you a lesbian because you’re fat, or are you fat because you are a lesbian:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAaBccbSzA0
HD
And the point?
The person says they don’t have covid, but won’t say what they do have. Are they implying that ivermectin isn’t available on prescription in Australia when in fact it is?
Must really have a nasty parasitical infection
I’m pleased you’ve stopped pretending to not be a massive vaccination nazi covid karen notafan.
The last 18 months of fakery as you pretended you weren’t while relentlessly henpecking everyone was very irritating.
Apologies if put up earlier Well lookie here another gig for BelieveAllWomen
I am sure the wonderfully wise, exceedingly erudite and morally superior good-time gal Ms Higgins will impart much useful information on how to get out of sticky situations of one’s own making.
JC’s advise is correct.
I don’t take medical advice from anyone on the cat, or anywhere else on the very bad and dangerous internet and I especially would not do so from someone suffering from paranoia and delusions of grandeur.
Bird and Figures were both very fond of giving very specific medical advise to people.
Fancy that.
No. Every second our immune system is killing cells. That is the part of the “house keeping” of the immune system. The technical term is apoptosis and it occurs in a number of ways. It will be small and self-limiting.
Oh man, the Cathedral is pretending this clown is a ‘whistleblower’; that’s not a whistle, that is smoke, Sir.
STROMECTOL®
Ivermectin
Consumer Medicine Information
So covid karens have gone smugly announcing “It’s 98% effective! Completely safe! the data, the TGA the FDA says so you crackpot!”
To “I don’t mind if they were completely wrong and it’s not effective at all and I have to get it twice a year”.
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Back on planet normal – if they were totally wrong – or lying, about how effective it is, then how can you trust that they know o rare telling the truth about how safe it is?
And now not only is it it not anywhere near as effective as they lied that it was, apparently – we are to believe – they also didn’t even know that mRNA vaccines wear off after six months. Hello? This stuff is so experimental that they didn’t even know that was the case.
But no, no, ignore that we don’t know: how effective these are and that they only last six months, we totally know what it’s going to do to people in five years.
I only take medical advice from Dr Norman Swan, Kochie and the Cash Cow.
DB, she doesn’t want fb broken up.
She want’s the government to regulate it & employ former fb staff to do the regulating.
More gaslighting from twistednicks
I was a vaccine nazi before they were even invented!
You can’t bear any attempt to be objective about the efficacy of the vaccines.
It distracts from your communist social credit narrative.
I don’t care one iota* who here does or doesn’t get the vaccine but I will argue against accepting medical advice from anonymous people on the internet and against scaremongering propaganda.
You don’t have a problem with people hoping people die of blood clots and that they’ll be dead in 12 months, two years three years from the ‘death jab though do you twisted?
*and I respect those who have reservation on ethical grounds or because they refuse to be strong armed by government.
That wasn’t the argument being put forward.
The argument being put forward is whether your risk is greater from covid or the vaxx.
Dying from adverse reactions in five years is speculation similar in quality to doomsday climate change predictions.
Bruce the spike protein in the vax is not the same as in the virus. It has the same signature for antibody response, which is at the tip of the spike protein but the vax produced spike protein was designed with a membrane anchor and designed to prevent the conformational change required for cell fusion to occur. Undoubtedly the anchor doesn’t always work but that is probably at the margins.
All vaccines are designed to generate inflammation and cell death. They add inflammatory agents to vaccines to generate a stronger response. When the immune system detects detects proteins on the cell surface that cell is subject to apoptosis, a process of cell death which involves the cell collapsing in on itself so as to prevent the release of many proteins produced by the cell which can further drive inflammation. Even extracellular ATP, but more notably cell protective proteins like heat shock proteins, when released into the extracellular space, will generate inflammation. Sometimes that doesn’t happen and the cells become senescent cells which perpetually generate inflammatory responses so a major area of interest is in finding ways to kill off senescent cells.
Pandremix was the ‘vaccine’ rushed through for Swine flu in the UK and Europe.
Based on old flu vaccine tech it still caused 1000 people -mostly kids who got it at school, to develop narcolepsy before being pulled.
It still took four years of battling before the UK government would yield to the science and accepted what it had done and paid up.
GSK of course had demanded and been given full indemnity, and to this day refuse to concede that it had anything to do with any of it. And even attempted to dust it off, rebrand it and pass off Pandremix as a potential covid vaccine early last year.
But this time it’s totally different! Yes, yes it is, this time it’s an experimental biotech DNA technology they’re selling. And it’s already shown that they’ve either lied massively, or they have no idea what they’re doing.
I made robust list of reasons last night why BTC is nothing like Tulip Mania.
JC and Bruce cowered and decided bickering would be more fun to be shown their emotional arguments for government fiat were to be found wanting and holding no water.
Come at me you central bank pawns. Your red shoes can’t hurt me now.
usps suspends parcel delivery to Australia
And what is ‘disrespect’ anyway. Is it another one of those words where the bugman class have taken as existing word, heaped a whole new load of definitions that they will expect everyone to accept
Disrespect is vastly over-used media-wise along with its maaates … loved ones/loving family and the all-time winner in this category .. Aspiring … LOL!
Dot, people come at crypto wrong.
Blockchain is here to stay.
Separate to that, crypto as an investment is a frontier asset class & like most frontier asset classes attracts speculative money.
On a 12 month basis, I would be short BTC, long ETH.
On a 10 year basis, I would be long both.
December 2020: what every medical and science ‘authority’ said with 100% certainty about these ‘vaccines’ and you would be banned of Facebook and Youtube for so much as questioning:
1. 98% effective.
2. Two jabs and this is all over.
3. Prevents you catching it
4. Prevents you spreading it
5. Prevents you ending up in hospital with it
6. Completely safe.
What they’re now saying they were 100% incorrect about:
1. 100% wrong.
2. 100% wrong.
3. 100% wrong.
4. 100% wrong.
5. 50% wrong
Now early adopters of this junk technology – the kind of people that would send money to Nigerian princes, are hysterically defending 5. No, no just because they were ‘wrong’ (lied) about 1,2 ,3, 4, and 5 they’re totally being up front about the biggest one: 6.
Feeling nervous.
“There is no doubt Ben that masks is in an office environment is an impediment for people to come back to town,” he said.
“I had a very constructive discussion after swearing in yesterday with Health Minister Brad Hazzard and I am meeting with health officials today to go through the roadmap.”
New premier will decree that masks no longer needed in the office.
This decree supersedes the previous decree by the previous premier.
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OK.
It’s gotta be better than the other shit on the OT.
Bitcoin is shitcoin because it doesn’t have any of the features of whatever will eventually become the digital currencies we’ll all be using during the apocalypse. And many central banks will make it illegal to trade with it.
Dot
That doesn’t apply to me as I’ve always maintained I don’t give a shit if someone gets the vax or not. I support people’s refusal to to vax
Faulty 2, last night was hoping I die from the vax and she would come to the cemetery and piss over my grave when I die of blood clots. How’s that for mentally disturbed behaviour. The c..t would like to see me dead so he’s right. That’s fucking demented. He’s now posting supporting crap written by Dr mengles posted on market ticker!
Appropriate for bears of very little brain.
If the TGA knew so much about these vaccines back in January that they could declare them totally safe and totally effective, why didn’t they know that they only last six months, don’t cover any mutations and aren’t totally effective?
You know. Because they only read the Pfizer / Astra marketing literature and Pfizer / Astra-supplied summary data like they always do. They had no special ‘data’, just what they were given by the companies. This is standard.
Jeebers, Moriah college has zero sense of history.
I wonder if their billionaire alums leaned on them.
With their Marxist revolution project taking over the White House and the Democratic Party, the fascist scum of Silicon Valley are out of control.
In his daily email, Ben Garrison reveals he’s going to quit online crowd funder Patreon because it is trying to censor his website, grrraphics.com (which it has nothing to do with) as it publishes content the fascist left doesn’t like.
Patreon says cartoons like this violate its policy on “medical misinformation”, which it requires users to comply with
Patreon.
Fuck. Me. Dead.
The fascist left, which controls all of the big social media companies, cannot tolerate dissent from anyone for any reason.
and
Hmm.
So what do you say Arky?
Buy Monero? ????
Woops — coding error:
… requires users to comply with on or off Patreon …
“feelthebernsays:
October 6, 2021 at 12:23 pm
Jeebers, Moriah college has zero sense of history.
I wonder if their billionaire alums leaned on them.”
What has happened Bern?
Top story at smh.com.au, Cassie.
John H.says:
October 6, 2021 at 11:57 am
……. It will be small and self-limiting.
*****
Big call, John H.
“Patreon.
Fuck. Me. Dead.”
No surprises there, Patreon have been silencing people for the last two years……including Carl Benjamin aka Sargon of Akkad. Nobody should use that tainted platform. Garrison needs to move to SubscribeStar.
Well spotted.
Could I add my personal bete noir to the list – “iconic.”
I guarantee that if you asked any of the alleged journalists, spruikers and other frequent users of the word what it actually means, they would not have a clue.
We’ve been here before you know.
The mechanics for this stuff to be waved through and pounded into the public’s head because ‘Pandemic!(tm)’ were created in 2009 and incredibly after that debacle, instead of learning from their mistakes health authorities and regulatory bodies doubled down on them.
“feelthebernsays:
October 6, 2021 at 12:28 pm
Top story at smh.com.au, Cassie.”
Thanks Bern, so just like my synagogue…which I will no longer attend on principle.
Oh.
The 737-Max model.
Cassie, it’s not just students attending.
It’s family of student attending.
Finally, worthwhile graffiti:
https://twitter.com/Amaralee23/status/1445548722897633284
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I don’t know Dot. I don’t really care about it, but it makes a nice change from covid.
The Schiff argument makes sense to me. Where’s the moat in this stuff? If anyone can make a new coin, what’s special about bitcoin? It’s technology. Surely as the years go by there will be better and betterer coins with better features?
Question: What do you think currency will look like in 2030? Where does Bitcoin fit in?
If they could provide one mechanistic explanation of possible long term risks I’d be interested but all we have is speculation about some unknown process that will suddenly emerge at a later date.
Words fail.
…………….
No, on second thoughts they don’t. They will get exactly ZERO about my personal medical history. If that means I can’t attend functions, so be it.
I suppose I can now expect this intrusive and discriminatory sh*t from my other grandchildren’s schools.
Thanks for nothing, ground breakers.
Here ya go Arky, some Red Shoes and a beautiful voice
Theory re Moriah.
There’s going to be some orthodox parents who send their kids there.
So the kids are jabbed, but some parents who are not.
Is this a big FU targeting the minority of orthodox parents?
I wouldn’t put it past some of the progressives involved with the school.
It is a much smaller call than many of the future risks of the vax being thrown around here.
“feelthebernsays:
October 6, 2021 at 12:37 pm
Theory re Moriah.
There’s going to be some orthodox parents who send their kids there.
So the kids are jabbed, but some parents who are not.
Is this a big FU targeting the minority of orthodox parents?
I wouldn’t put it past some of the progressives involved with the school.”
Moriah is Orthodox…there is a reform school called Emanual School. The ultra Orthodox attend Yeshiva
Gab says:
October 5, 2021 at 11:32 pm
ICYMI now over 24,000 signatures
Signed and shared.
Here’s what puzzles me; people taking the concoction do so with their “informed consent.” If the doctor jabbing the patient is prohibited from telling the patient about potential side effects, how does that amount to informed consent.
No one can provide informed consent if they are denied information.
Despite being jabbed, I won’t attend any function at Moriah…on principle.
Woolfesays:
October 6, 2021 at 12:36 pm
Here ya go Arky, some Red Shoes and a beautiful voice
Woolfe, that was beautiful, but nothing beats Billy Thorpes’ rendition.
I wish I could have found a better version, but enjoy.
Ok..maybe I’m comparing it to NY orthodox.
But why would they do that (vaccine status of extended family) when they know there’s going to be a bunch of them who aren’t going to be vaccinated?
Potato head Dutton in court showing Pansy Porter how it’s done.
Thanks Pogria, still prefer my visuals though!
Words fail. This country is the grip of mass hysteria.
“Ok..maybe I’m comparing it to NY orthodox.
But why would they do that (vaccine status of extended family) when they know there’s going to be a bunch of them who aren’t going to be vaccinated?”
Don’t know….the headmaster is actually quite frum (religious and comes from an ultra Orthodox home).
I suspect the QLD hospital crisis is political fiction aimed at the current fed. funding grovel.
see http://www.performance.health.qld.gov.au/Hospital/HistoricalGraphs?id=99999
Ignore the big jump – They went from monthly reporting to quarterly, so numbers went up 3x.
There is no significant change in admissions per month, so either they’re fibbing, or the hospital system has gone backwards.
“This country is the grip of mass hysteria.”
Yep.
Scientists discover three rare cannabinoids reduce seizures in mice
It is good to see they are actively exploring cannabinoids other than THC and CBD.
Hemp oil contains negligible amounts of THC. Hemp is also a good source of vitamin D and contains cannabinoids that can inhibit an enzyme which generates inflammation. 5 LOX inhibitors are being explored in cancer therapy because many cancers express high levels of 5-LOX and are also used for asthma treatment. Hemp won’t cure your cancer but it will help lower systemic inflammation.
No. Our MEDIA is in the grip of mass hysteria.
The last time there was this craziness, there were Japanese mini subs in the harbour.
Should be castigated physically or chemically
JC: You’re smarter than this …
India is a perfect proof [on millions!] that it indeed does work . The research done on it in 2020 [yes double blind randomised] allowed the Indian governments to provide a cheap COVID treatment kit by the hundreds of millions and get India (the Delta Variant was the Indian Variant) clear a lot sooner than most of the highly vaxxed nations where Ivermectin is essentially banned.
Please have a look here:
https://c19ivermectin.com
Further … Ivermectin has LONG been known to have anti-viral efficacy. It is not just an anti-parasitic. The Nobel was awarded on that basis. See this Nature article:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-020-0336-z.pdf
The reason it is cancel cultured is that if this is acknowledged … all the Emergency Use Authorisations for Pfizer AZ and the like will lapse.
lower systemic inflammation.
This is the key.
Mandatory vaccinations for mine workers in Western Australia.
The local CFMEU organiser was interviewed on local ABC radio yesterday and he sounded very hesitant about this decree which his union co-sponsored, going to great lengths to say how the union had managed to delay this edict for so long.
100,000 mine workers and associated FIFO people, there will be a lot of very unhappy people over here.
“No. Our MEDIA is in the grip of mass hysteria.”
No. The country is in the grip of mass hysteria…..an hysteria fomented by government and media and people, schools, corporations etc have lapped up the hysteria.
No, it’s because it’s cheap and actually works.
Yes, that irritates me, too, johanna.
Silliest I’ve heard was some ignoramus talking about “Sydney’s iconic mardi gras”.
Well then, let the TGA give it Full Registration!
Whilst we are at it, if the Provisional Pathway is good enough to force 25 million people to have a dose or two, let’s get rid of the entirely superfluous full approval pathway.
Rorschach is correct.
Queensland Police officers begin quitting service over COVID vaccine mandate | 7NEWS
what about the comparison of APOC and non-APOC countries in Africa?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33795896/
Well, that depends.
If you bought into the idea that these were vaccines as we previously knew them, those figures come as a shock.
If, like me, you saw the Kung Flu vaccines as a symptom moderating treatment for the individual with very marginal transmission benefits, they aren’t surprising.
If we want to look at cold data (if you can find it) the real question is “what is the relativity of cases/hospitalisations/deaths to exposures in each cohort of vaxxed and unvaxxed?”
For example, if we had those stats coming out of a 95% vaxxed population, they would, prima facie, support the effectiveness of vaccines.
Still, if 6% of cases come from 50% double vaxed, and 66% come from the 20% unvaxxed, that tells a story.
The single vaxxed comparison is a little marginal (28% from 30% vaxxed).
Old School Conservative
I wouldn’t be so sure:
Sancho Panzer says:
October 6, 2021 at 9:25 am
“The eastern suburbs school has asked for proof of vaccination status from students, their siblings, parents and grandparents by next Monday.”
******
Well at least they’re implicitly acknowledging that their vaxxed students can still catch and transmit the virus, otherwise there’d be no need to worry about relatives.
John – You should read this article:
Study reveals characteristics of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein (Phys.org, 28 Jul)
It says the spike protein in the vax is the same as in the vaccine, and that it can cause cell fusion, which appeared to be quite a sensitive topic from searches I did at the time.
Yep.
With two cases in the state they are bleating about “collapse of the system”.
The same stunt is being pulled in Victorianistan.
As quick as Friedeggburger pulls employment subsidies, ScoMo will start shovelling out “hospital funding” (aka high rise buildings full of public servants in Brissy and Melbourne).
The eastern suburbs school has asked for proof of vaccination status from students, their siblings, parents and grandparents by next Monday.
Hopefully, all the kiddies still have living grand-folk or things could get a bit lairy .. LOL!
Should be castigated physically or chemically
AND instead of or …….
True, Dot. That’s because it is worse than Tulip Mania. A reoccurrence of the tulip fad would not, for example, crash a nation’s electricity grid. BitCoin just might. I believe it has gone close to doing so a few times.
As the price rises due to supply being insufficient to meet demand the incentive to use vast amounts of electricity will increase. We’ve seen what the European energy crisis has done to electricity, ditto in China due to insufficient coal supplies. BitCoin is impoverishing billions of poor people by unnecessarily raising prices.
I don’t think this of other cryptos and not of blockchain either, just cryptocurrencies who include “mining” in their business model. If this stuff goes on much longer, and I see no signs of it stopping because of the inherent economic drivers, government will ban and persecute BTC ownership and owners.
And I missed your comment last night, I was trying to read a book.
Rorschach
With due respect, but someone also brought up India as some sort of example of high level medically advanced country.
Explain why the fuck anyone should believe what comes out of the place when they very likely undercounted the death toll by freaking multiples of millions?
If their medical system is so good then why aren’t their doctors fully recognised to practice in western nations without heavy duty retraining?
Also, if corruption applies in the West then why not India where corruption was conceived?
Funny thing.
The first time I felt vaccines might be a pathway out of the pandemic and endless cycles of lockdowns was when I saw a video of a president Trump speech making some announcements about them, that someone linked here.
How the mighty Trump has fallen in the eyes of fickle cats.
Of course anyone sitting pretty in nannaannaland has the right to devote 75 percent of their posts over the last twenty months to slagging off people who, by accident of birth, happen to live in Melbourne, especially if they have a different world view.
Some of us remember.
Apologies if put up earlier Well lookie here another gig for BelieveAllWomen
Fastidiously plain isn’t she? Her photo reminds me of this.
A parent of a child at Kincoppal Rose Bay in the eastern suburbs said the school sent a letter to parents on Wednesday asking for information about their children’s vaccination status. SCEGGS Darlinghurst and Trinity Grammar are also asking for the vaccination status of students only.
Santa Sabina has asked for the vaccination status of both parents and students.
SMH
Brucie
I haven’t forgotten about your mask reply. Don’t have time, but I’ll deal with your bullshit in long form a little later.
Thanks.
Just learned that a primary school here in Melbourne is saying a friend’s child cannot return to school unless they are vaccinated.
Absolutely! It was so bad at one stage I suspected I may have had the dreaded coof lurgi. Even Madame Lash, who is normally unaffected, is suffering badly this year.
I would happily take a flamethrower to every poxy acacia in Australia.
Bitcoin is bullshit. Redbank power station has been set over to supply power as one BC mining outlet.
The only currencies we should use are gold, women and Marvel comic books from the Golden and Silver eras.
Bruce it doesn’t actually state that. I can’t be bothered finding the studies that stated there are differences but here is some history:
That’s encouraging because the mRNA is only present for a few days.
NSW numbers today:
Just about the distribution of each when they would’ve caught the virus.
NSW records 594 COVID-19 cases and 10 deaths as state swiftly approaches 70 per cent double-dose vaccination coverage (6 Oct)
Coulda fooled me.
“Since mRNA vaccines work by giving instructions to our cells to make the spike protein, this finding gives insight into how long the newly made protein will be present.
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In addition to binding the virus to target cells, the spike protein can cause fusion between the cell it is made in and a neighboring cell, an effect seen in the lungs of COVID-19 patients.”
So if the mRNA makes the spike protein, and the spike protein can cause cell fusion then logic suggests the vaccine can cause cell fusion. Which fits with the blood clotting issue.
I will admit I haven’t read the paper only this article about it. So I may be wrong if the journo was a bit loose with his or her summary.
Seriously John, if everything is so tickety-boo with the vaccines, why do they not have full approval/registration?
If everyone is so sure of themselves and the future outcomes, this should be a Monty, no?
This needs comment and correction:
John H. says:
October 6, 2021 at 12:10 pm
All vaccines are designed to generate inflammation and cell death.
Pre-COVID vaccines were designed to generate a physiological immune response, not inflammation. This includes antibody production by memory B-cells or T-cell-mediated cytotoxicity against cells sufficiently deranged by the viral load, so as to be seen as foreign to the host.
They add inflammatory agents to vaccines to generate a stronger response.
Such as?… Never heard of that.
The COVID pseudo-vaxes DO generate an inflammatory response, including coagulation-cascade activation due to target-non-specific T-cell activation by the injected modified-spike protein, hence the thrombotic side-effects.
When the immune system detects detects proteins on the cell surface that cell is subject to apoptosis, a process of cell death which involves the cell collapsing in on itself so as to prevent the release of many proteins produced by the cell which can further drive inflammation.
Apoptosis is normal, physiologically benign pre-programmed cell-death, it does not induce an immune response.
Apoptosis is not the same as immune-mediated cytotoxicity, such as might occur with the COVID pseudo-vaxes. This type of cyto-necrosis generally results in cytolysis and intracellular contents spilling out into plasma or tissues, causing Interleukin-mediated “cytokine-showers” (fevers, malaise, nausea, rashes etc..) and other toxic effects on the unlucky bastards with a tetchy immune system.
Even extracellular ATP, but more notably cell protective proteins like heat shock proteins, when released into the extracellular space, will generate inflammation. Sometimes that doesn’t happen and the cells become senescent cells which perpetually generate inflammatory responses so a major area of interest is in finding ways to kill off senescent cells.
Correct. Most usually seen as amyloid in some neuro-degenerative disorders.
LOL, Victoria easing border restrictions for NSW.
The timeline of insanity continues (PS, should have been open state borders for the past 18 months).
I was delighted too when they announced the “vaccines”. Particularly alternatives to the AZ which, on principle, I decided not to take if at all possible.
That delight turned to dismay when indemnifying the companies sprang into being, and then the subsequent mishmash of policies and warnings and age groupings and banning and silencing.
And then the threats, particularly from Morrison and then the Premiers. After that the mandates and demonisation and utter disinformation about immunity and transmission and then boosters.
Nothing to do with what I think or don’t think about Trump. Except for the fact that the virus was very convenient in ousting him.
I’m not fickle, just cautious. And I discovered today, after drying my tears, that a principled approach comes at a cost, otherwise it’s just empty virtue signalling.
And standardise certain calibres of ammunition and Coca-Cola as accepted commodities of foreign exchange.
I’d suggest 7.62×39 and 7.62x54mm, 5.45mm Soviet (i.e. AK-74 blammo), 5.56x45mm and 9x19mm.
And maybe a few of the heavier exotics, like .38 special, .45 and 12.7mm BMG, 12.7x99mm Soviet and 14.5mm Soviet.
Dan better be careful. Apparently there’s a terrifying outbreak of Catholicism in NSW. Millions of Victorians might succumb.
feelthebern says:
October 6, 2021 at 12:18 pm
Dot, people come at crypto wrong.
Blockchain is here to stay.
Separate to that, crypto as an investment is a frontier asset class & like most frontier asset classes attracts speculative money.
On a 12 month basis, I would be short BTC, long ETH.
On a 10 year basis, I would be long both.
I believe that, after China began kyboshing crypto-mining and began regulation of this scam-infested financial space, the US is now looking at legislating to treat cryptos as commodities, subject to capital-gain taxes and yearly income reporting rules.
The EU and other non-tinpot governments are moving in similar directions.
Government-mandated, so-called Stable digital coins are on their way also, to ensure all money continues to belong to geovernments.
The only surprise is why it took so long.
Oops- 12.7x99mm is the .50 BMG cartridge.
I think the Soviet DShK/DShKM equivalent is something like 12.7x125mm.
Opinions and corrections from any Gunsmith Cats (honk!) in the audience?
“Dan better be careful. Apparently there’s a terrifying outbreak of Catholicism in NSW. Millions of Victorians might succumb.”
Quite so, forget about Covid…in progressive and ABC la la land, Catholicism is far deadlier disease than any virus from China.
And speaking of threats, the one from Morrison in particular.
That those in the 60+ age group who refused to have the AZ would go to the back of the queue until next year for an mRNA jab.
LIAR
If I wish, I can now book in for Moderna. Maybe next week or the week after.
He said that to frighten and coerce. The threat that Christmas festivities might be withheld from horrible old uncooperative Boomers. I still have the sh*t’s letter. Yep. I’m on the watch list of “anti-vaxxers”.
A classic Liberal voter. Not any more.
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Hedgehog’s dilemma.
Read my post on the main page Calli.
It is, but mind you, under Labor the system is always close to crisis.
They’re the greatest danger to public health in the state.
“A classic Liberal voter. Not any more.”
Me too.
Apoptosis can be mediated both intra-cellularly and by TLRs, the final result is the caspase cascade. Interleukin 1 can induce apoptosis via TLRs. Apoptosis can be a consequence of an immune response to a damaged cell.
Toll-like receptors’ two-edged sword: when immunity meets apoptosis.
Breaking news, Haiti reduces restrictions on US tourists looking to holiday there.
Cronkite
You’ve been almost fastidious in staying away from the covid vax discussions. Where do you stand?
Is faulty 2 correct and that all vaxxinees will die a horrifying death?
Sitting on the fence with legs either side is going to cause lots of pain. It’s just that I’ve never seen you without an opinion on such important matters before.
“Rorschachsays:
October 6, 2021 at 12:55 pm
JC: You’re smarter than this …
Maybe there this to consider. There are very inferior meta studies about Iver but there are no more exacting randomized double blind studies that prove Iver works. Sorry , India isn’t going to cut it.
India is a perfect proof [on millions!] that it indeed does work . The research done on it in 2020 [yes double blind randomised] allowed the Indian governments to provide a cheap COVID treatment kit by the hundreds of millions and get India (the Delta Variant was the Indian Variant) clear a lot sooner than most of the highly vaxxed nations where Ivermectin is essentially banned.
Please have a look here:
https://c19ivermectin.com
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JCsays:
October 6, 2021 at 1:23 pm
Rorschach
With due respect, but someone also brought up India as some sort of example of high level medically advanced country. [No they didn’t. All that’s been pointed out is that India’s Ivermectin strategy has kicked the arse of the vaxx-worshipping/anti-Ivermectin strategy followed in many other places. The fact is you’ve been proved wrong about randomised double blind studies. Admit it.]
Explain why the fuck anyone should believe what comes out of the place when they very likely undercounted the death toll by freaking multiples of millions? [If they undercounted both before and after Ivermectin, the relative improvement would still be there. Are you suggesting that there was some drastic change in the reliability of their stats at the time they started distributing Ivermectin?]
If their medical system is so good then why aren’t their doctors fully recognised to practice in western nations without heavy duty retraining? [Irrelevant. No-one is commenting on their health system in general. The comments are only about the efficacy of their Ivermectin based strategy.]
Also, if corruption applies in the West then why not India where corruption was conceived? [Now you’re getting into “the moon landings were fake” territory. You don’t like India’s reported success because it undermines your assertions, so you’re suggesting that we should discount the evidence on the basis of purely hypothetical speculation that the reports may be distorted as a result of corruption (by unspecified people for unspecified motives in an unspecified manner somehow applying across all India’s states….).]
Not sure if you have seen this John H.
Worse Than the Disease? Reviewing Some Possible Unintended Consequences of the mRNA Vaccines
Paul Toole new Deputy leader
Political career
Paul Toole was one of nine children who grew up on a farm outside Bathurst in central west New South Wales.
He began teaching at the Assumption Catholic Primary School in Bathurst in 1995, a school he taught at for 17 years.
The married father-of-three said he has a “passion for education and the development of our regional centres to ensure the future is bright for the coming generations”.
Mr Toole was first elected to state parliament after serving as a Councillor, Deputy Mayor and then Mayor of Bathurst Regional Council in 2007.
SKY NEWS
Beautif pic of his family back 13yrs ago.
It may be that the spike proteins don’t actually CAUSE COVID, but that the PCR Test recognises it as COVID. Of course – there are a LOT of breakthrough infections where it is clear that the “vaxx” is not as efficacious as advertised [I wouldn’t be surprised if this is caused by the reduction in time between first & second dose as a consequence of governments manic push to get everyone double jabbed].
The only currencies we should use are gold, women and Marvel comic books from the Golden and Silver eras.
… and Bunnings vouchers.
Candidate for this years “Let them eat cake” award.
Adam Creighton in the Paywallian:
Covid restrictions make the case for a bill of rights
The coronavirus pandemic ushered in the most profound restrictions on human rights by any democracies since at least World War II. Rights of association, assembly, movement, even speech were suspended throughout most nations, and not for short periods, in the name of the public good.
The pandemic has starkly illustrated the tension between democracy and freedom. While democracy may be a necessary condition for a free society, it’s evidently not sufficient. That requires additional constraints.
Freedom relates to the rights of individuals, or group of individuals, within a society; democracy is a system of government where the majority make the rules. The tyranny of the majority, as ancient Greek philosophers recognised, could undermine individual freedom, putting unreasonable burdens on a minority. What’s popular isn’t necessarily good or right.
That’s why constitutions avoided direct democracy, where voters through referendum-style elections decide policy question.
Members of parliament, as Edmund Burke said, were meant to follow their conscience as much as electors’ desires, providing a check on populist government.
The pandemic has revealed how, in conditions of widespread fear, however irrational, governments will impose extreme arbitrary measures with little resistance from parliaments. Surveys showed American and British voters believed Covid-19 was at least 10 times more dangerous than it was. Anecdotally, the fear was even greater in Australia.
The draconian responses to the pandemic should prompt reflection among those, myself included, who had long played down concerns parliamentary democracy wouldn’t adequately safeguard individual rights without some codified human rights.
Such bills of rights were a rec¬ipe for lawyers’ picnics, empowering activist judges to twist the words of any set of rights to suit the political fashions of the day, so the argument went. Moreover, bills of rights did little in practice, for which the pandemic provides ample evidence.
The UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights, for instance, proclaimed in 1948, includes the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association, to work, to free choice of employment, to freely participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts.
It also enshrined the right “to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state and the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country”, rights trampled on in Australia perhaps more than any other nation.
European governments ignored their own European Convention on Human Rights. Australia’s High Court did not strike down interstate border closures despite our Constitution declaring “trade, commerce and intercourse among the states shall be absolutely free”.
Victoria even has its own human rights charter that includes the right to freedom of expression along with many rights listed in the UN charter. Yet a Victorian woman was arrested in her home during the pandemic for posting on social media in support of a rally against lockdowns.
These failures are powerful arguments. Yet it’s too easy to dismiss the utility of codified rights. In those countries that avoided harsh prolonged lockdowns, such as Sweden, Japan and the US, constitutional rules were a significant factor. Unlike legislation, they couldn’t so easily be ignored by governments and parliaments.
What changes could we make to protect individual rights better? Perhaps liberals should consider proposing a referendum to add a short bill of rights to our Constitution. The history of referendums in Australia suggests such a move would fail, but in making the case the public would be far better informed about their own rights or lack thereof.
Few Australian would realise that state constitutions contain essentially no restraints on parliaments’ power, meaning they can do whatever they want, however wicked or stupid. Moreover, any bill of rights should require super majorities of parliament to override. No parliament can tie the hands of future parliaments but creating additional hurdles, even artificial ones, reduces the likelihood of rights being ignored.
Retired judges should be encouraged rather than censured for speaking out on issues of human rights. In the UK retired judge Jonathan Sumption eloquently challenged the British government’s heavy-handed response to the pandemic. Like tenured academics, retired judges have a moral obligation at least to use their privileged position to push back against populism.
Enumerating rights isn’t easy. They conflict with one another. John Stuart Mill’s dictum that men and women should be free to do whatever they want so long as their actions don’t harm others isn’t as simple as it might sound. What is harm, and how far should the state go to stamp it out? And which rights take precedence?
Free speech is typically limited in circumstances where it could incite violence, for example. Does one’s right to a quality education conflict with someone else’s right to avoid heavier taxation? The right not to be infected by Covid-19 appeared to trump all other rights during the pandemic, even though the source of any infection isn’t readily verifiable and the threat is tiny for most people.
It’s far from clear that balance was struck correctly in Australia and the wider Western world during the pandemic. What appeared to work in Wuhan, China, might not be appropriate in nations founded on liberal democratic principles. Nevertheless, precedents have been set that make lockdowns more likely when the next Covid arrives, or for other reasons where the public good can be invoked, such as climate change. The conventional wisdom, however dubiously founded, appears to be that “earlier, harder and longer” lockdowns are the optimal way to respond to viruses.
For genuine champions of human rights, the future isn’t rosy without further safeguards.
This is an edited version of Adam Creighton’s chapter in Australia Tomorrow (Connor Court Publishing), a collection of essays on liberal politics edited by Jake Thrupp and released last week.
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I’m guessing that the women are the debit side of the ledger.