Open Thread – Weekend 9 Oct 2021


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Pat
Pat
October 9, 2021 1:48 am

Whacko.

srr
srr
October 9, 2021 1:54 am

🙂

Tom
Tom
October 9, 2021 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
October 9, 2021 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
October 9, 2021 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
October 9, 2021 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
October 9, 2021 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
October 9, 2021 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
October 9, 2021 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
October 9, 2021 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
October 9, 2021 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
October 9, 2021 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
October 9, 2021 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
October 9, 2021 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
October 9, 2021 4:15 am
Tom
Tom
October 9, 2021 4:16 am
Tom
Tom
October 9, 2021 4:17 am
Tom
Tom
October 9, 2021 4:17 am
John H.
John H.
October 9, 2021 5:39 am

Palmer call out for federal candidates

Anyone here willing to throw their hat in the ring? Plenty of people here have the requisite background.
Not me, I disagree with Kelly on the vaccines and ivermectin. I’m not one inclined to submit to party discipline.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 9, 2021 5:46 am

That’s good Garrison.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 9, 2021 5:50 am

Winston, I watched TIK’s most recent video on Stalingrad.
I started watching it with the view that I’d only get 5mins before it would be too depressing & stop.
But it was a good one 55mins flew by.

Megan
Megan
October 9, 2021 6:28 am

Thanks Tom for this mornings ‘toons. And Dover for the pretty new thread.

calli
calli
October 9, 2021 6:48 am

Brown this morning. LOL! If only it had been done sooner.

As predicted, a “dangerous new strain” has appeared in Sydney. Probably originated in the Epping area, due to a sudden loss of attention.

As usual, Rowe reverts to nude fat men. Leak is having fun with a new character in his father’s style – sacré chuckle!

rosie
rosie
October 9, 2021 6:51 am

Too much winning!
Melbourne beats Sydney, again

rosie
rosie
October 9, 2021 6:58 am
rosie
rosie
October 9, 2021 7:07 am
Dot
Dot
October 9, 2021 7:08 am

Seriously.

Triple vaccinated.

It’s a thing now here in Australia.

rosie
rosie
October 9, 2021 7:10 am
rosie
rosie
October 9, 2021 7:12 am

Why do people care about vaccine boosters so much?
I mean if someone’s already had two absolutely certain to kill you in one two three years jabs what difference does a third one make?

Gary
Gary
October 9, 2021 7:14 am

Can you move the “report comment” button to the other side of the screen from any embedded links? Tom’s going to get quite a few reports for the cartoons if others are as clumsy using their tablets and phones as I am.
Thanks for keeping the cat alive.

calli
calli
October 9, 2021 7:14 am

They might be worried about the cumulative effect?

rickw
rickw
October 9, 2021 7:16 am
rickw
rickw
October 9, 2021 7:18 am

Hell hole Australia Part II:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2w7vVXlAfY

rickw
rickw
October 9, 2021 7:21 am

I mean if someone’s already had two absolutely certain to kill you in one two three years jabs what difference does a third one make?

Just another facet of how the vaccines don’t deliver as advertised.

Dot
Dot
October 9, 2021 7:24 am

When do you think this will end? When will the government stop lying? Why do they lie unapologetically? Why do people let them lie and go along with it? Why is the media literally contradicting themselves? Why do they never skew the government over such contradictions? Why is a fake couple of a gay Siamese dude and a fat redhead Aussie bloody sheila with a fake TV baby giving me medical advice on an ad sponsored by an insurance company?

The flu shot is given annually because of seasonality. Booster shots every two – six months on the other hand are a sign of very weak efficacy.

rosie
rosie
October 9, 2021 7:24 am

Worried calli?
People running around telling those that have been vaccinated that they are gunna die any minute now are concerned for the vaccinated? (not you dot)
Find that a little difficult to believe.
The most vulnerable to covid are the ones being offered boosters in Australia, because as many triumphantly point out the efficacy of the vaccines wanes over time and in the face of mutations. Apparently any concerns the immune compromised might die of covid should be airily waved away.

I know the real problem is, vaccines cause covid!

Dot
Dot
October 9, 2021 7:25 am

from 8 September AAP Australian vaccine death claims are a data dupe

Yet these turds refuse to explain comorbidities and age to their readers, or completely dent these facts.

Dot
Dot
October 9, 2021 7:26 am

DENY

rickw
rickw
October 9, 2021 7:31 am

How to commit a school shooting and get out on bail:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE171qA_C00

rosie
rosie
October 9, 2021 7:31 am

No one gets a booster under six months.
The flu shot also wanes in efficacy, you should not get it months before the flu season.
There is nothing remarkable about covid vaccines waning.
In 2017 the effectiveness of the flu shot was only iirc 40% against one variant and 10% against another which is a reason that was a very bad flu year.
.
Hopefully covid settles into seasonality too.
Stupid lockdowns have probably prevented that from happening yet.

Dot
Dot
October 9, 2021 7:34 am

No one gets a booster under six months.

Are you sure about that?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 9, 2021 7:36 am

Why do people care about vaccine boosters so much?

Russian roulette.

The side effect seen ‘more frequently’ after Pfizer booster shot than previous doses – FDA (8 Oct)

Unfortunately by turning human cells into foreign cells, which is effectively what they’re doing, they risk inappropriate immune responses to other bits of the cells.

If the vaccines were conventional free-floating killed-virus ones this would not be a problem.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 9, 2021 7:40 am

No one gets a booster under six months.

Not for long. The MSM is starting to report what we’ve been discussing here for a month.

Pfizer COVID Vaccine Less Effective After 2 Months (8 Oct)

This was reported in early September on the OT at the time.

Dot
Dot
October 9, 2021 7:40 am

We don’t need to live with COVID more than we “live with” swine flu.

They become endemic and society largely becomes immune.

rosie
rosie
October 9, 2021 7:40 am
rickw
rickw
October 9, 2021 7:42 am

Is there any country that doesn’t think Australia sucks?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjFE0mpAIUU

Winston Smith
October 9, 2021 7:45 am

Feelthebern:

Winston, I watched TIK’s most recent video on Stalingrad.
I started watching it with the view that I’d only get 5mins before it would be too depressing & stop.
But it was a good one 55mins flew by.

He does a good bit of research and presentation. He’d mentioned the Winter Line in a previous episode but it seemed a bit fanciful to me.
Pulling back out of Stalingrad for the winter just a few kilometers was a poor idea.
If the plan was to continue on to the oilfields, they needed to pull back to the Lower Chir and Don while the weather was good enough and recuperate the 6th and 4th Pz armies. As he points out, the huge backlog of tanks awaiting spares to finish repairs for 24th Pz Div was just the surface of the supply problems.
Perhaps the General Staff were thinking the freeze after the autumn rain would solve the road and other transport issues like what happened in Operation Taifun (the march on Moscow in ’41). However the German logistics were failing even then, and the winter of ’42 saw the logistics tail at its last gasp.
Excellent series after all.

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 7:46 am

The flu shot is given annually because of seasonality. Booster shots every two – six months on the other hand are a sign of very weak efficacy.

Dot, the fiu shot’s “weak efficacy” maybe indicating a few things

1/ the forecast as to which flu type makes an appearance could be wrong

2/ it is weak and that’s the best human technology can achieve for the moment.

There’s nothing hugely wrong with those two points. Hopefully things will get better and will improve to meet your very exacting standards. 🙂

Dot
Dot
October 9, 2021 7:49 am

JC

I expect Dr Ketut and his fake family to be toiling away in the Pfizer dungeons as we speak.

Dot
Dot
October 9, 2021 7:52 am

Has anyone here taken three flu shots in the space of six months?

That’s what we’re talking about here with COVID vaccines.

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 7:52 am

I expect Dr Ketut and his fake family to be toiling away in the Pfizer dungeons as we speak.

I tell you what through, I suspect Pfizer and Moderna fucked over AZ by planting bullshit about AZ in the MSM. No doubt in my mind.

Zipster
Zipster
October 9, 2021 7:56 am

Business interruption insurance has emerged as a controversial space during the pandemic, with insurance giants claiming they never intended for these sorts of policies to cover pandemics.

It is estimated there were roughly 250,000 policies of this ilk in Australia when the pandemic struck, with a total potential liability of $10 billion.

Friday’s test case looked at under what terms a business could claim for downturn in trade during the pandemic, including if a government lockdown order was sufficient or whether a business needed an actual case of the virus in its proximity to claim.

“The Court’s narrow interpretation means that claims under similar policies will need to show a direct connection between COVID outbreaks on or nearby the premises and the government restrictions that caused loss of trade,” Mr Mennen said.

That essentially means a business cannot be compensated if it can only prove its losses were due to government lockdown or a general economic downturn caused by the closure of international borders.

That will make it very difficult for a range of businesses to claim insurance, including those such as travel which have largely seen downturn due to a loss of holidaymakers and tourism.

courts infested with bugmen

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 7:56 am

Has anyone here taken three flu shots in the space of six months?

That’s what we’re talking about here with COVID vaccines.

Then take the J&J shot, which commences with one 🙂

Give it chance, Dot. They will get better in a few years time. Don’t be so impatient.

rosie
rosie
October 9, 2021 7:57 am
Dot
Dot
October 9, 2021 7:59 am

Give it chance, Dot. They will get better in a few years time. Don’t be so impatient.

That’s the problem.

People like bat eared mong and the poison Armenian took away my choice and reduced us to a police state.

Cassie of Sydney
October 9, 2021 8:00 am

“Has anyone here taken three flu shots in the space of six months?”

No.

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 8:04 am

Dot

The Armenian gal is a poster child for libertarianism compared to the ridiculous pig down south.

I got talking to a federal member of parliament yesterday who was walking around. He’s Sinc’s pal but won’t mention his name. He reckons even the liars party state members can’t stand the piece of shit but are too scared to roll him. I believe that.

Zipster
Zipster
October 9, 2021 8:05 am

That essentially means a business cannot be compensated if it can only prove its losses were due to government lockdown or a general economic downturn caused by the closure of international borders.

the bugmen class indemnifies itself from its own overreach

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 8:06 am

Also, unless I’m mistaken the flu booster is also given not just to increase efficacy but to also correct for wrong predictions to what would be served in the current season.

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 8:09 am

Zip

Just saying . If insurance was to cover for the lockdown , the extent of these lockdowns in this shithole would cause insurance firms to lose their capital. There would be no capital left on their balance sheets.

Dot
Dot
October 9, 2021 8:10 am

That should happen JC.

We need a teaching moment.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 9, 2021 8:16 am

1/ the forecast as to which flu type makes an appearance could be wrong

Which has happened twice in the last 20 years.
Which is passed off as a bad flu season for the oldies.

Cassie of Sydney
October 9, 2021 8:17 am

I had my second jab yesterday….AZ….I brought it forward two weeks. We were told at work that come “Freedom Day”……LOL……if we choose to attend the office then we have to show proof of being double jabbed.

I don’t recognise this country anymore.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 9, 2021 8:18 am

This insurance shit is going to worm its way to a full bench of the High Court.
Realistically, there needs to be a mechanism for it to go straight there.
Then if the insurers lose, there will be legislation introduced to “socialise” the cost, ie tax payers foot the bill.

Cassie of Sydney
October 9, 2021 8:18 am

“I tell you what through, I suspect Pfizer and Moderna fucked over AZ by planting bullshit about AZ in the MSM. No doubt in my mind.”

I suspect AZ is the better vaccine

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 9, 2021 8:20 am

I’m not one inclined to submit to party discipline.

That is the problem. The parties are full of those that do and will not take a stand and speak truth to authority. And party discipline also is a travesty of democracy as definitionally members can not best represent their constituents interests.

calli
calli
October 9, 2021 8:21 am

I reiterate. Is the “booster” the same formulation as the original dose?

If so, it can’t be compared to the flu shot which tries to match mutations.

Zipster
Zipster
October 9, 2021 8:21 am

I don’t recognise this country anymore.

quite frankly australia has always been a nanny state, it’s just now been jackbooted directly into your face.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 9, 2021 8:21 am

JC is right, business continuity insurance for COVID is the biggest event to hit the global insurance markets since Hurricane Andrew.
It took a decade for all the reinsurance fuck ups from that one to work their way through the system.

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 9, 2021 8:22 am

“I tell you what through, I suspect Pfizer and Moderna fucked over AZ by planting bullshit about AZ in the MSM. No doubt in my mind.”

I suspect AZ is the better vaccine

And they are all fucking over Novavax as it is now Merck’s turn to make Gazzillion$.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 9, 2021 8:26 am

All insurance premium hikes western nations are seeing now are all about provisioning for the potential that 1) they lose a major court decision related to COVID 2) governments don’t act fast enough to legislate post a major court loss.

If you want to know why your critical injury insurance is up over 20%, that’s why.
If you want to know why your directors insurance is up over 20%, that’s why.
Just wait until you start seeing it hit things like motor vehicles & home and contents.

Zipster
Zipster
October 9, 2021 8:27 am

Just saying . If insurance was to cover for the lockdown , the extent of these lockdowns in this shithole would cause insurance firms to lose their capital. There would be no capital left on their balance sheets.

The underwriters have a pool of unlimited liability rich to tap against, who get handsomely rewarded with absurd returns for the risk.

what is the point of business interruption insurance if it does not pay for business interruption? Unless the policy specifically excludes lockdown or pandemic it should pay.

the courts are stacked full of activists, who are unaccountable to the public they are supposed to serve

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 9, 2021 8:28 am

I had my second jab yesterday….AZ….I brought it forward two weeks.

There is a massive amount of studies out there suggesting that if the gap between first and second shots is shortened beyond the recommended duration, the efficacy wanes significantly.

Governments pushing this shortening to meet some nebulous and arbitrary targets are actually harming people … if the vaxx is consequently ineffective, people will die when they shouldn’t!

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 8:29 am

I suspect AZ is the better vaccine

I suspect AZ is the better vaccine.

My cardio dude reckons AZ is a repurposed flu shot … at least based on the same architecture.

Still, I think AZ is the riff raff vax. Moderna was a class above the rest. 🙂

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
October 9, 2021 8:33 am

I don’t know how it can be done, but somehow these people won’t give up until they can”save face” – how very Chinese ! By “these people” I mean AZ, Pfizer, Daniel Andrews, the jabbed …….. insert whomever. We’ve probably got a year or so run, unless a worse mutation pops up. It is certainly a test in patience.

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 8:33 am

Just wait until you start seeing it hit things like motor vehicles & home and contents.

I just got my quote renewal for the house. Fuck! It’s up about 30% and I had no claim.

Is it too risky to not insure? I have an alarm system set to my iPhone that can toggle alarm on or off anytime we want.
Fire? How often does that happen?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 9, 2021 8:34 am

I suspect AZ is the better vaccine

Zero doubt.
In 20 years time they will be laughing about suckers (like me) who took the mRNA vaccines for COVID.
When Moderna announced in March 2020 that they had the vaccine I dismissed it, much to my portfolios chagrin.
I’ve followed the mRNA theme for about a decade.
The thing that stuck with me was that many of the promoters have said repeatedly that mRNA treatments have no lasting effects on corona viruses because every investor wanted to know if mRNA could become the annuity income earning flu vaccine.
But here we are.

duncanm
duncanm
October 9, 2021 8:34 am

Burwood LAC copping a pasting on facebook over the Cossack.
https://www.facebook.com/BurwoodPAC

Cardimona
Cardimona
October 9, 2021 8:36 am

As I’ve said before, I plagiarise shamelessly and unapologetically for reasons of efficiency in my main mission – red-pilling journo-listers via print-edition opinion column submissions.

Recently I plagiarised Michael Janitch (Dutchsinse) and got ink with this …

“I predict Australia’s next earthquake, after the Victorian one (CP, 23/09), will be near Ayers Rock or Alice Springs. It will come within ten days or so and will be around M4.5. Rockmonster, Herberton”

Today I sent this follow-up …

“In the Cairns Post on 24/9 I predicted the next Aussie earthquake after Melbourne’s would be about M4.5 somewhere near Ayers Rock in around ten days. Today, 9/10, there was a M4.9 north-east of Keith SA. My prediction was out only by a few days and a few hundred kilometres – which is far, far better than the official government seismologists at Geoscience Australia could manage. Official science is often less accurate than amateur science. Rockmonster, Herberton”

I love it when a plan works!

Now, on to the next project – rearranging an old Bruce of Newcastle comment on the costs of fuelling an ICEV versus charging an EV to reply to some moron who thinks Teslas are great because his son-in-law’s has never broken down or had a flat battery.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 9, 2021 8:38 am

I’m a huge fan of mRNA treatments.
It’s total sci fi come to life.
Just like Picard using an iPad on Star Trek before it was even conceived in real life.
But, not for corona viruses.
In 10 years, they’ll be using mRNA for a million things.
Zero doubt about that.

Indolent
Indolent
October 9, 2021 8:38 am

Ethical Policing in Victoria

Acting Senior Sergeant Krystle Mitchell is a sworn member of the Victoria Police in Australia. She has served Victorians for 16 years as a police officer including 6 years at Professional Standards Command – the division responsible for investigating police misconduct, corruption, discrimination and freedom of information, referring investigations to the Independent Broad-based Anti-corruption Commission (IBAC) where appropriate.

This link was under the David Limbrick tweet.

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 8:39 am

Get a load of Colbert. In a fair and just world he’d be fronted to Bane’s court and handed a death sentence by lethal injection.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.louderwithcrowder.com/amp/stephen-colbert-s-the-vax-scene-dance-is-so-cringe-your-soul-may-actually-leave-your-body-2655192402

Indolent
Indolent
October 9, 2021 8:40 am

I mean if someone’s already had two absolutely certain to kill you in one two three years jabs what difference does a third one make?

Money, Money, Money

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 9, 2021 8:41 am

It’s up about 30% and I had no claim.

No way?
So it’s already hitting personal property insurance products.
Just bump up your excess to $5k & watch the premium drop.

Seriously Australia is so under insured.
This will make it worse.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 9, 2021 8:41 am

1,965 cases for the Blamer in Chief today.

Dot
Dot
October 9, 2021 8:41 am

Fire? How often does that happen?

Cripes man, you’re a smoker.

rickw
rickw
October 9, 2021 8:44 am

1,965 cases for the Blamer in Chief today.

Nice progression there!

Fuckwits trying to hold back the sea with a pile of bodies and cash. Guess the sea broke through.

duncanm
duncanm
October 9, 2021 8:45 am

VicPol officer speaks out (and resigns) on Discernable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kn6AFl5G1c

custard
custard
October 9, 2021 8:47 am

SAVE AMERICA
PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP
OCTOBER 8, 2021
BEDMINSTER, NJ

Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America

I have sent a letter to the U.S. National Archives and Records Administration in defense of the Office of the Presidency, the Constitution, vital principles of separation of powers, and on behalf of our great Nation. The Radical Left Democrats tried the RUSSIA Witch Hunt, they tried the fake impeachments, and now they are trying once again to use Congress to persecute their political opponents. Their requests are not based in law or reality—it’s just a game to these politicians. They don’t care about our Country or the American people.

The Democrats are drunk on power, but this dangerous assault on our Constitution and important legal precedent will not work. This Committee’s fake investigation is not about January 6th any more than the Russia Hoax was about Russia. Instead, this is about using the power of the government to silence “Trump” and our Make America Great Again movement, the greatest such achievement of all time. We won two elections, did far better in the second than the first, and now perhaps have to do it a third time! It is also about trying to deflect blame from Biden’s surrender in Afghanistan and the failures to address COVID, the border, crime, and the economy that is leaving Americans dead or broke. It’s another grand distraction, because Biden and the Democrats don’t want you to see how badly America is losing due to their incompetence.

My administration, and the great patriots who worked on behalf of the American people, will not be intimidated. We will not allow Biden or the Radical Democrats to get off without accepting blame for their incompetence and failures. I will always fight for America First, and the Constitution. Together, we will Make America Great Again, Again!

###

https://t.me/georgenews | @GEORGENEWS

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 9, 2021 8:48 am

what is the point of business interruption insurance if it does not pay for business interruption? Unless the policy specifically excludes lockdown or pandemic it should pay.

Zipster, you’re 100% right.
Unfortunately, the insurers will not pay much into whatever pot gets worked out.
My view, post the High Court saying the insurers have to pay will be a federal scheme where:
1) Insurers pay a bit;
2) The policy holder wears a hair cut on their payout;
3) Tax payers wear a lot, potentially from a one-off draw down from the Future Fund.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 9, 2021 8:50 am

Thanks duncanm.
There needs to be 1000 VicPlod doing the same.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 9, 2021 8:50 am

From “The Australian.”

Homeinquirer

Grace Tame is surrendering her position to dirty politics Janet AlbrechtsenFollow @jkalbrechtsen

11:00PM October 8, 2021
198 Comments

No joy comes from reminding Grace Tame that there is no such thing as a protected species in ­Australian politics. Nor should there be.

Tame’s ability to rise from the trauma of sexual abuse and to speak for survivors is heroic. But it doesn’t give the young woman a free pass from cool-headed and careful analysis when she chooses to politicise her position. And that is surely what she is doing as ­Australian of the Year.

The imbeciles firing the “c” word at Tame this week might learn something from what follows, too. Tame is entitled to express her views on any matter she chooses. It’s a free country. If she doesn’t like Pauline Hanson, she’s free to say so.

But her attempt to remove Hanson from platforms, including from a podcast with Jessica Rowe, is terribly misguided. So were her other political interventions targeting Scott Morrison, Christian Porter and Amanda Stoker.

Tame was made Australian of the Year for her tremendous work to highlight the scourge of sexual abuse and fighting for women to be heard. As Australian of the Year, she was perfectly placed to use that privileged platform in a non-partisan way to unite the country around these important issues. That is how you bring power to a cause.

Instead, Tame is dividing the country. By antagonising many Australians with her increasingly political interventions, many people will stop listening even when she has something non-partisan to say. More and more, she is surrendering her unique presence as a sexual abuse survivor to dirty ­partisan politics. Inevitably, she will – and should – be subjected to the robustness of that space where no one is a sacred cow.

Not even Tame.

She has undermined her position as Australian of the Year by telling the country that the Prime Minister lacked a moral compass when he temporarily promoted Porter, then still a minister of the crown, to Acting Leader of the House. It was a double-barrelled political attack that revealed more about a young and impressionable woman than about the Prime Minister or Porter.

Porter was accused of rape by a woman who ultimately withdrew her allegations, and police decided not to pursue the matter. While Tame would have liked an independent inquiry into those allegations, she, and older minds who should know better, haven’t explained how it could settle the matter. Sadly, the complainant had died, her struggles with mental illness were well known, and there was not a scintilla of admissible evidence corroborating her claims.

Australia is a democracy committed to due process and the presumption of innocence. No one boosts their credibility by chipping away at those bulwarks of our justice system, not even an articulate young Australian of the Year.

Tame’s attack on Stoker’s promotion as Assistant Minister for Women, again, was without enough consideration. Stoker is a defender of women’s rights. She has a stellar career, is raising three children and is a testament to what a young woman can achieve.

Stoker is also a defender of free and open debates. She has made it clear that she looks dimly on ­attempts to no-platform and cancel people, even if she disagrees with them. She expects universities to offer students the chance to think for themselves. The reason is clear – the best way to dismantle bad ideas is by rebutting them with good ones. If you silence people, you turn them into martyrs. Those with rotten ideas will fester in the darker recesses of society, empowered by their newfound status as a “victim” of a cancelling mob.

Her principles intact, Stoker came close to the heart of the issue with Tame. She told 2GB in March that while “(Tame) should be heard, that doesn’t necessarily make her right”.

That observation applies equally to Tame’s decision to join a mob trying to shut down the podcast with Hanson. Tame is entitled to join a censoring mob, but she was wrong to do so.

Maybe we need a better selection process for Australian of the Year, one that considers the downsides of providing a privileged platform to a fiery and passionate activist who may end up dividing the nation, rather than uniting us.

Unlike Rosie Batty and Patrick McGorry, who remained focused and outspoken on the issues that led to their elevation as Australian of the Year, Tame has very quickly descended into a political partisan.

That also means that she is being used as a political partisan, especially by those in the media who don’t question Tame when she attacks the Morrison government because it suits their political purposes not to do so.

Tame’s youthful exuberance and her exploitation by others is not unlike that of Greta Thunberg. Albeit younger than Tame, the climate zealot is full of passion, prone to saying patently silly things, and the go-to-girl for adulating activists.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 9, 2021 8:56 am

Gabsays:
October 8, 2021 at 10:28 pm
Number of covid deaths Australia 2020-now: 1405

Take away the 600 to 700 killed in nursing homes in NSW and Victoria last year, largely by government corruption and incompetence, and the number looks minor when compared to the gross over-reaction.

rickw
rickw
October 9, 2021 8:59 am

What happens when you fire an excavator driver for not being vaxed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f4tRoylcUk

Indolent
Indolent
October 9, 2021 9:00 am

We’ve probably got a year or so run, unless a worse mutation pops up.

Jabbing during a “pandemic” makes that much more likely. Quite a few doctors have made that point. It forces more mutations some of which may be far more virulent.

Zipster
Zipster
October 9, 2021 9:01 am

In 10 years, they’ll be using mRNA for a million things.

so will the chinese, probably not in the same way you hope. how about a virus that sets a hidden ticking timebomb in your cells.

Cassie of Sydney
October 9, 2021 9:01 am

“Tame’s ability to rise from the trauma of sexual abuse and to speak for survivors is heroic.”

There is nothing “heroic” about Tame.

“Tame was made Australian of the Year for her tremendous work to highlight the scourge of sexual abuse and fighting for women to be heard.”

I’d never heard of Tame before January 2021 and I hope never to hear of Tame after January 2022.

Mater
October 9, 2021 9:06 am

Insurers need to be on the hook for that too, not only businesses, in order to widen the front that can push back against an overwrought, excessive state response.

If we were all in this together, no one would be in it.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 9, 2021 9:09 am

1,965 cases for the Blamer in Chief today.

I think you mean ‘1,965 spies and saboteurs have been exposed in a feeble plot to undermine the single minded unity of the People and the Maximum Leader.’

Makka
Makka
October 9, 2021 9:10 am

I wonder how many hospitalized covid patients are smokers or have been;

Study shows link between smoking and COVID-19 severity, death

The researchers used Mendelian randomization to assess whether a genetic predisposition to smoking and heavy smoking might have a role in COVID-19 severity among 281,105 of the original participants living in England.

This revealed that a genetic predisposition to smoking was associated with a 45% higher risk of infection and a 60% higher risk of hospital admission for COVID-19.

And it showed that a genetic predisposition to smoke more heavily was associated with a more than doubling in the risk of infection; a 5-fold increase in the risk of hospital admission; and a 10-fold increase in the risk of death from the virus.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210928/Study-shows-link-between-smoking-and-COVID-19-severity-death.aspx

Cassie of Sydney
October 9, 2021 9:10 am

Janet…here’s my take on “Grace Tame”.

I think Tame is a very nasty piece of work, a female mediocrity who’s used her experience and her role of AOTY to spruik fashionable progressive causes such as “domestic violence”, “sexual assault”, “rape” and so on. All she’s done is show herself to be immature, insensitive, nasty and divisive. After a decade of various progressives demeaning the role of AOTY, Tame, with her vicious commentary, has finally nailed shut the coffin called AOTY. That’s her only achievement.

jupes
jupes
October 9, 2021 9:13 am

I have had plenty of time on my hands recently, so have watched 5 series of Rake. A mate told me that I would like it so I gave it a go. Surprisingly I did like it. At first.

The first two or three series were excellent. Great writing with good humour, good characterisation and good acting. Plots were hard to predict – a murderer who you suspected was innocent, did end up getting off, but was actually guilty. The Muslim accused of terrorism turned out to be a murderer instead. Both Labor and Liberal politicians were corrupt.

Then the writers ran out of ideas or got lazy, and by the last series, had resorted to bog-standard lefty / ABC boilerplate. Plots were ridiculous. Characters were two dimensional – all Liberal politicians were evil and corrupt, resorting to murder to cover up their corruption. All Liberal politicians except one of course – the Abo. He did the ‘right thing’ and introduced a treaty. There were no Labor politicians required and the part of the other ‘good’ politician was given to the Green. The actors seemed to be just going through the motions through all the silliness.

A sad and pathetic end.

Joanna
Joanna
October 9, 2021 9:18 am

1,965 cases for the Blamer in Chief today.

Is anyone else suspicious about the numbers? Is Dan is setting it up so that there will be no choice but to push for an extended state of emergency after December 16.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 9, 2021 9:20 am

callisays:

October 9, 2021 at 8:21 am

I reiterate. Is the “booster” the same formulation as the original dose?

The booster has extra added nano-wrigglers.

rosie
rosie
October 9, 2021 9:24 am

Indolent.
How does that explain the mutations that arose before the vaccines were developed or mutations that arose in unvaccinated countries like India, South Africa and Brazil? (The ‘Kent’ strain in the UK was identified in the UK in September 2020 well before any vaccinations were available)

Your vaccination causes mutations theory doesn’t seem to sit on firm foundations especially as virii mutate naturally all the time.
coronavirus rise of the mutants

Rabz
October 9, 2021 9:28 am

If you need to be administered endless booster shots of those toxic chemical cocktails, then what’s the bloody point in having them in the first place?

As stated before, I’ll take my chances with bat flu.

Rabz
October 9, 2021 9:31 am

Acting Senior Sergeant Krystle Mitchell

Good on her, she seems like a fine young woman. There’s some very telling observations even in the first few minutes of that interview. It will be interesting to follow what happens to her after her chat with Discernable. As she noted, her career in Vikpol is now effectively kaput.

March
October 9, 2021 9:32 am
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 9, 2021 9:32 am

1,965 cases for the Blamer in Chief today.

I saw Rukshan on Facebook last night calling the Dan Sans Mask “an incredibly dangerous super-spreader event”.
Excellent trolling.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 9, 2021 9:37 am

Got a “Pending” comment on Ms Tame and the AOTY Teh Paywallian Not optimistic.

MatrixTransform
October 9, 2021 9:38 am

In 2017 the effectiveness of the flu shot was only iirc 40% against one variant and 10% against another which is a reason that was a very bad flu year.

This piqued my interest so I went into my job file history to try and work out when I had the Flu Jab that knocked me over.

not 2017 or 18, turns out it was either April or May in 2019

That jab was offered free while we were working on a notorious Richmond health centre. You know the one.

Was offered free, and a bunch of us were rounded up and jabbed…. baaa.
No name, address, or medicare number … this wont hurt a bit … you’re not gonna faint are ya toughguy? … righto p!55 off then.

That was at 10:00 and by 13:30 I was as sick as a dog.
This was quite a severe cold and I was pretty rooted. Did it stop me working?
Of course not.
I’m bullet-proof … well, bullet-resistant anyways
If I’m not dead and wake up before 0900 then I’ll probably do some work.

Reckon though that I was still sick from that jab right up until about November.

It will not be on any vax record that’s for sure.
Wonder what was in it.

They wouldn’t have … would they ?

rosie
rosie
October 9, 2021 9:39 am
Rabz
October 9, 2021 9:41 am

the Blamer in Chief

The hideously ugly stupid grotesque deformed jug eared manifestation of the global fascist insanity we’re currently existing through.

19 months and counting – and they’ll never admit they’ve been wrong, wrong, wrong about everything all the time, they’ll just keep doubling down on the stupidity and insanity, leavened with much jackbooting to the faces of the pesky populace.

Forever.

MatrixTransform
October 9, 2021 9:41 am

Dr Ketut and his fake family

I bet they stole that baby

rosie
rosie
October 9, 2021 9:42 am

There’s no suggestion pfizer has altered their vaccine formula for their booster calli, and millions of people are still getting it for the first time.
I can’t see that being done in secret.

Rabz
October 9, 2021 9:43 am

Bear, why bother attempting to post a comment on the Oz – have you not got better things to do, like continuing your search for those elusive trousers, or peeing in a jar for a californian hippie bimbo?

Makka
Makka
October 9, 2021 9:45 am

Acting Senior Sergeant Krystle Mitchell

She works in Gender equality and Inclusion section ……

Hmmmm.

I’m not sure about this. She’s running defence for VikStasi , “being used” ffs. The footage I’ve seen shows Vic cops being very enthusiastic in their thuggery over Vic citizens from the very beginning. Meaning they seem to need little or zero encouragement to brutalize the public.

Trying to put a kinder face on a what is a grub police force. Not buying it.

local oaf
October 9, 2021 9:46 am

With reference to the old thread,

Judge Dredd says:
October 8, 2021 at 2:34 pm

If you need Ivermectin (Ziverdo kit from Indiamart). It is delivered in a nondescript box from this guy. The process is a little convoluted, but can confirm it works. Register, put in your interest and then conclude the deal over email.
https://www.indiamart.com/saenterprises-nagpur/search.html?ss=Covid+19

Sadly, this didn’t work for me. The links are fine but the password they sent by email doesn’t work. Re-sent passwords are similarly ineffective.

May have to resort to horse meds.

rosie
rosie
October 9, 2021 9:46 am

“An ageing immune system also loses vaccine-induced antibody protection faster than a younger one.”

here’s why the 2017 flu season was so bad ‘the conversation ‘ published 2 November 2017

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 9, 2021 9:46 am

Dr Ketut and his fake family
I bet they stole that baby.

I didn’t think that was how those Bali cowboys worked.

Rabz
October 9, 2021 9:48 am

Makka – she’s not defending what they’ve been doing.

shatterzzz
October 9, 2021 9:48 am

what is the point of business interruption insurance if it does not pay for business interruption? Unless the policy specifically excludes lockdown or pandemic it should pay.

Isn’t obfuscating the standard in the insurance policy business?
I’ve only ever tried to claim insurance (travel) once and ended up throwing in the towel with frustration ..!
several years ago whilst on holiday (England) I lost one of my hearing aids, knew exactly what had happened and took all the necessary steps needed to make a claim when I got back to Oz .. we’re only talking maybe $200 so no big deal .. or so I thought!.. insurer (QBE) sent me a form to fill in with dozens of questions .. about the only thing not asked were what colour underpants I was wearing at the time and when I last changed them …!
The hearing aid(s) were over 5 years old yet they expected paper proof of purchase .. decide it wasn’t worth all the effort and wore the cost of replacement ..
Ended up buying a $A10 (including postage) set off Ebay from China .. still working perfectly .. 6 years later .. LOL!

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 9, 2021 9:49 am

Rabz – shouting at clouds and talking to pigeons just isn’t working for me.

Baba
Baba
October 9, 2021 9:49 am

If there was a means test for free Covid jabs and most people had to pay for their own, just like those who prefer ivermectin therapy do, this bullshit would be over.

Rabz
October 9, 2021 9:51 am

shouting at clouds and talking to pigeons just isn’t working for me

I’ve had some seriously profound discourses with the noisy miner fledglings in the back yard of late. They certainly are an excitable bunch.

Makka
Makka
October 9, 2021 9:52 am

she’s not defending what they’ve been doing.

Rabz, I know. She’s defending the force. Painting them as victims. Huge difference.

Twostix
Twostix
October 9, 2021 9:52 am

There is nothing remarkable about covid vaccines waning.

Six months ago notafan was calling anyone who said the vaccines don’t work as advertised a crackpot and studiously and snarkily quoting factcheck.org and “studies” and media articles at them.

Today: “it’s no big deal that the vaccines don’t work you crackpot, just take your booster.”

Tom
Tom
October 9, 2021 9:52 am

Albo is relying on Grace Tame and the ABC to get him into power in 2022. They’ll be rewarded with as much other people’s money as they want.

Baba
Baba
October 9, 2021 9:53 am

callisays:

October 9, 2021 at 8:21 am

I reiterate. Is the “booster” the same formulation as the original dose?

We would like to tell you but it’s commercial incompetence. Just trust us.

Cassie of Sydney
October 9, 2021 9:55 am

“Tomsays:
October 9, 2021 at 9:52 am
Albo is relying on Grace Tame and the ABC to get him into power in 2022. They’ll be rewarded with as much other people’s money as they want.”

Oh yes, Tame is a tool for the left and that scumbag of a PM fell for it hook, line and sinker.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 9, 2021 9:57 am

As stated before, I’ll take my chances with bat flu.

A valid choice for a young virile rock-star.

Twostix
Twostix
October 9, 2021 9:58 am

I have a morbid curiosity to see notafan soon defending vaccine passports. And them turning red for people who haven’t had their fifth ‘booster’ and increasingly banning people from life.

“It’s no big deal people are just eating bark anyway which according to snopes.com has a nutritional value of 1.543 so nobody has to have one. Oh not me I have one but I’m totally against them but I like to shop but bark for you is fine”.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 9, 2021 9:59 am

The Battle of Lepanto.

Cop that, Ottoman poofs.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 9, 2021 10:00 am

AOTY has always been about starting a conversation.

This is the sort of bland bullshit that now passes for public discourse.

Rabz
October 9, 2021 10:03 am

KD – an inspiration for those of us not enamoured of the religion of pieces.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
October 9, 2021 10:04 am

Good Morning Troops

Just catching up on the news in Venestralia;

NSW – Dr Menglechant suddenly “discovers” a new delta strain the day after she gets sidelined by the new state premier. Amazingly convenient to keep her in the spotlight.

Lockdanistan – Week 8 of the quick 5 day lockdan so Vicganistan doesn’t get the case numbers that the peoples republic of NSW did, aaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha, morons.

The hermit kingdom of WA – Just discovered gunpowder and have embraced the new technology of the recurve bow, remains closed to all outsiders.

Queenganistan – the love child of Mr Potato Head and a smashed crab still self promoting. Voted 2nd in most punchable face, narowlly beaten by Diego Maradonas rectum.

It’s mild and humid, just alongside at Sabai Island in PNG, a lot of asian fishing boats in the area.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 9, 2021 10:04 am

People who buy my Hugo Chavez Cooks cookbook won’t have to eat bark soup. It’s roast flamingo every meal.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 9, 2021 10:05 am

The assembled population of this country can thank mediocritist Nina Funnell for Grace Tame inflicting herself on the nation.

Funnell picked Tame out of a wide field of sexual abuse victims and made her a poster child, no doubt due to her aesthetics, for Funnell’s attempts to win j’ism awards by publishing a series of pieces featuring Tame and pursuing a campaign (which was already well underway in all States and Territories) to remove a ban on the victims of sexual abuse to speak publicly about the crimes committed on them.

I note Funnell herself, having knocked the handbrake off the truck at the top of the hill and watched it start rolling towards the combination orphanage/puppy farm at the bottom, has now gone inside the house and pretended to go to sleep.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 9, 2021 10:06 am

Nein Radio (3AW) having their “come to Jesus” moment.
“Case numbers are no longer the focus”.
This is code for “Dan has run out of people to blame”.

Roger
Roger
October 9, 2021 10:07 am

Albo is relying on Grace Tame and the ABC to get him into power in 2022.

Word from within the Liars’ Party is their biggest political assets are SloMo and Christian Porter.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 9, 2021 10:10 am

From the OOT:

a planeload of Opus Dei albino monks just landed up north.
Heavily armed and fully trained in the martial arts, including tai chi and mai tai.

Wearing blue berets, they were. They dropped into a servo to buy durries on their way to the underground Ghan.

Which only goes…… south.

Roger
Roger
October 9, 2021 10:10 am

AOTY has always been about starting a conversation.

What the chattering classes don’t realise is that, among the normies, it’s a conversation that -if it happens at all – begins with “WTF were they thinking?”

rosie
rosie
October 9, 2021 10:11 am

Surprise, twistedknick pops up for a Gaslight!

I’m sure most people would happily pay for Astrazeneca, currently around $5 or pfizer at around $40.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 9, 2021 10:13 am

Ottoman poofs.

Geddit? No?

Fucking savages, all of you.

Cassie of Sydney
October 9, 2021 10:14 am

“Knuckle Draggersays:
October 9, 2021 at 10:05 am”

All correct.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 9, 2021 10:15 am

On insurance.
Report yesterday that Keith Urban has canned an upcoming tour. Lots of head-scratching as to why if they could run double-vaxxed events.
Well, der.
It’s the tour insurance dummy.

Keith breaks a leg … tick.
Keith gets laryngitis … tick.
Bat-eared mong pulls a snap LockDan mid-tour … yeah, nah, not covering that.

Insurers assess risk in providing cover.
Straya is considered high risk in terms of LockDans.
And I wouldn’t be at all surprised if travel insurance policies for inbound tourists to Oz in coming months have a carve-out for LockDans and quarantine Australia.

Rabz
October 9, 2021 10:18 am

Is it too risky to not insure?

JC – I ditched my home and contents insurance from about 2002 to 2011. Probably saved well over $12,000 in the process. Zero claims or incidents. I have it now though for the cottage and it’s bloody exorbitant.

Have a look at what you’ve got everything insured for (i.e. their value) and write some (or all) of it down. Then go shop around.

Mark M
Mark M
October 9, 2021 10:19 am

Dave Chappelle … stand up comic. One of the brave few nowadays.

Most surprising is who stood up.

Hollywood stands for Chappelle and against the woke gestapo

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/10/08/nolte-hollywood-stands-for-chappelle-and-against-the-woke-gestapo/

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 9, 2021 10:21 am

Word from within the Liars’ Party is their biggest political assets are SloMo and Christian Porter.

The Lieborals have been giving it to Australians up the arse for years. I don’t think changing partners will help though.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 9, 2021 10:23 am

Dover – that is the problem when you make it up as you go along.

Arky
October 9, 2021 10:23 am

That female copper vid upthread.
How do you spend 15 years with the oinkers and remain that fucking naive?

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 9, 2021 10:24 am

Aussie Cossacks Mrs has a vid up on his channel. I thought this would be a way to gag him and her reference to bail conditions confirms that. Like suppression orders these gag orders embedded in bail conditions are becoming common place for Police who don’t want scrutiny. I do get the guy is an agent provocateur, however they keep playing to what he wants so they are complicit IMO.

As for Kingston, I know even among their own that traffic cops are about as popular as a rattlesnake in a lucky dip but this was obviously sanctioned all the way to the top to make a point. We really are at a point where the worst toilet in Scotland looks good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2w7vVXlAfY

rickw
rickw
October 9, 2021 10:26 am

It’s mild and humid, just alongside at Sabai Island in PNG, a lot of asian fishing boats in the area.

You bastard! Weighing up my options. PNG looks awesome compared to Australia. As does pretty much everywhere else.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 9, 2021 10:29 am

Winston at 7.45, apropos of the Chermans:

If the plan was to continue on to the oilfields, they needed to pull back to the Lower Chir and Don while the weather was good enough and recuperate the 6th and 4th Pz armies.

Yeah nah.

The Boche didn’t need Stalingrad itself. What they did need was Paulus’ Sixth Army to get across the Volga and protect Manstein’s left flank while he was driving for the Caucasus oilfields.

Manstein also knew that the Sixth Army was pinning down no less than six Soviet armies in and around Stalingrad, which allowed him to stay where he did for as long as he did.

They didn’t count on the Sov’s ability to relocate their heavy industry across the Urals so quickly or completely, and the Krauts’ (largely horse-drawn) logistics were always going to fail.

MatrixTransform
October 9, 2021 10:30 am

I’m sure most people …

you predictive powers are amazing.
The gibber that drops from your keyboard here is bell-weather for what idiot nannas all around this cuntry will wake up and think next

so, you reckon the new deal will be
give us money
so we can inject you with the instructions to make your own cells look like a virus
or we will ruin your life

… is the there a discount plan for paying up-front for the next 3 boosters

Makka
Makka
October 9, 2021 10:30 am

That female copper vid upthread.
How do you spend 15 years with the oinkers and remain that fucking naive?

Yes, definitely some holes in that story. Let’s see where she pops up in her next gig. Greens? Liars? ESG compliance for some Industry Super fund?

Baba
Baba
October 9, 2021 10:31 am

Was Nina Funnell the one bitten by James Dibble’s finger-web spider?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 9, 2021 10:35 am

That female copper vid upthread.
How do you spend 15 years with the oinkers and remain that fucking naive?

By working about two divisional van shifts at the very start of her career, deciding it was too noisy and hard, then allowing herself to be porked senseless by sergeants and detectives while working one office job after another, all the while studiously avoiding police work and pursuing the back door promotion route*.

Clearly, Acting Senior Sergeant Whatsername has discovered a mother lode of financial comfort somewhere that doesn’t involve her working at all.

*Deliberate.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 9, 2021 10:40 am

Clearly, Acting Senior Sergeant Whatsername has discovered a mother lode of financial comfort somewhere that doesn’t involve her working at all.

A fallback if you can’t get a job as a firie or the wharves.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 9, 2021 10:40 am

We have dropped a number of minor insurances. Risk vs reward doesn’t add up. I have noticed the premium rises have been in the ball park of 10-20% for well over a decade now. We do shop around but most are the same. Our building insurance in NQ is exorbitant, meanwhile across in the NT in similar Cyclone/flood prone areas they used to much less last time I checked. Go figure, the only thing I can think for the disparity is they have a TIO that probably undercuts the other companies.

The best or worst excuse I heard for a premium rise of 18% in a year we had no disasters was from AAMI was the Thai floods, said operator was reminded that apart from the compulsory vehicle insurance Thais or even Asians in general mostly don’t have home insurance and to inform her supervisors that they better find a better excuse.

MatrixTransform
October 9, 2021 10:43 am

was there ever any follow-up on how many of them actually exhibited mild or severe symptoms?

with the explosion in cases … I still do not know anybody first-hand that has had a positive test.

do an integral under the curve can’t be long now before we have all tested positive

cohenite
October 9, 2021 10:45 am

Good toons; these are my picks:

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With an honourable mention to Varvel.

Dragnet
Dragnet
October 9, 2021 10:50 am

Business Interruption insurance has long been a bad joke, refer to what happened to all those businesses gravely affected by the light-rail construction in Sydney 2016-2018.

areff
areff
October 9, 2021 10:55 am

Was Nina Funnell the one bitten by James Dibble’s finger-web spider?

No, but she’s eager for you to believe it happened, just like the attack she claims to have endured at the swarthy hands of a Leb sex monster in a Hunters Hill park after attending a take back the night rally at Sydney Uni.

cohenite
October 9, 2021 10:59 am

From above a link to the great man Trump:

It’s another grand distraction, because Biden and the Democrats don’t want you to see how badly America is losing due to their incompetence.

All the things the demorats are doing are not due to incompetence; they’re all planned. That’s the thing; the dems are run by the commies now and they want to destroy the US. I suspect Trump will know this but realises that’s probably too radical for the punters so he’s goes the incompetence route.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 9, 2021 11:00 am

“Zipstersays:
October 9, 2021 at 8:27 am
Just saying . If insurance was to cover for the lockdown , the extent of these lockdowns in this shithole would cause insurance firms to lose their capital. There would be no capital left on their balance sheets.

The underwriters have a pool of unlimited liability rich to tap against, who get handsomely rewarded with absurd returns for the risk.”

Zippy, I’m pretty sure that Lloyd’s names no longer have unlimited liability.

They used to, but people assumed that “it could never happen” and that signing up was just a good way of getting an annual distribution of syndicate profit.

Then there was some major casualty occurrence (I can’t remember what) and a whole lot of people lost their shirt. One of them was Malcolm Fraser. (Well, ok, he lost his trousers -maybe a debt collector followed him to Memphis to foreclose on his strides to meet his underwriting obligations.)

It suddenly dawned on people that TANSSAAFL, and so the rules were changed so a name could commit for a capped liability (with commensurately lower returns).

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 9, 2021 11:01 am

That should be “TANSTAAFL” of course.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
October 9, 2021 11:06 am

No more giving the government anything.

Just rocked up for my second jab so they have to give me a paper copy straight away, thus avoiding the electronic chains.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 9, 2021 11:07 am

I’ve had some seriously profound discourses with the noisy miner fledglings in the back yard of late. They certainly are an excitable bunch.

Rabz – There’s something you need to know.

Birdwatching is Racist, Imperialist, and Homophobic (8 Oct)

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 9, 2021 11:07 am

James Dibble’s finger-web spider?

I thought it was a bitten-web spider.

Cassie of Sydney
October 9, 2021 11:11 am

“No, but she’s eager for you to believe it happened, just like the attack she claims to have endured at the swarthy hands of a Leb sex monster in a Hunters Hill park after attending a take back the night rally at Sydney Uni.”

Funnell is the puppeteer, Tame is the puppet….and let me tell you something, there’s a lot more toxic poison in these two females than in a cluster of funnel web spiders.

calli
calli
October 9, 2021 11:13 am

You can dispatch a funeral web with a spade. These two zombies would leap straight back up again.

Dot
Dot
October 9, 2021 11:17 am

In the Supermercado.

Who the hell buys “Royals Monthly”!!?

calli
calli
October 9, 2021 11:18 am

Does it have a sealed section?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 9, 2021 11:19 am

Then there was some major casualty occurrence (I can’t remember what) and a whole lot of people lost their shirt. One of them was Malcolm Fraser. (Well, ok, he lost his trousers -maybe a debt collector followed him to Memphis to foreclose on his strides to meet his underwriting obligations.)

I think it was more sinister than that.
I think the jolly sound Oxbridge chaps at Lloyds had a bunch of absolute stinker exposures they needed to offload. They searched the former colonies for gullible wannabes who were prepared to put the family fortune on the line for the
‘prestige’ of being a Lloyd’s name and having a cucumber sandwich afternoon tea in the Lloyd’s wood-panelled dining room whenever they visited London.
Malcolm, of course, elbowed his way to the front of the queue.
This was the template for syndicating sub-prime mortgages thirty years later.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
October 9, 2021 11:19 am

James Dibble’s finger-web spider?

I thought it was a bitten-web spider.

That was in a The Naked Vicar Show radio skit.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 9, 2021 11:20 am

Hey Beer Whisperer.
I hope things are on the up and up.
Cheers.

MatrixTransform
October 9, 2021 11:22 am

Melbourne/Vic: Confirmed cases
roughly 50000/5000000 = 0.01 = 1%

so one percent of had this disease?

really?

I smell bullshit

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 9, 2021 11:24 am

Was Nina Funnell the one bitten by James Dibble’s finger-web spider?

There was a particularly unpopular head of the RAAF back in the ’90’s called Funnell, and I think he may have had offspring who managed to get cushy gigs at their ABC.
Any relation?

cohenite
October 9, 2021 11:24 am

Matthew McConaughey reveals himself as just another hollywood fucktard.

In other news the National Shooting Council, NSC, which every gun owner here should join, makes some enquiries of the WA government which has banned gel blasters because they look mean:

https://www.nationalshooting.org.au/the-gel-blaster-conversion-claim-that-wasnt-exactly-true/#comment-21102

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 9, 2021 11:30 am

Today is National Nanotechnology Day in the United States.

Wrigglers everywhere, stand and be recognised.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 9, 2021 11:32 am

Poms have sought to offload their shit on us Colonials for over 200 years. No surprise to see Fraser at the front of the queue. See also: Leb refugees, noblesse oblige

Old bloke
Old bloke
October 9, 2021 11:33 am

rickw says:
October 9, 2021 at 7:42 am

Is there any country that doesn’t think Australia sucks?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjFE0mpAIUU

How do the Poles plan to rescue their citizens from Dan’s gulag? Has anyone seen an armada of Polish warships sailing for Port Phillip Bay?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 9, 2021 11:34 am

Me and the wrigglers are going to the parade. Should be a great day out.

Gab
Gab
October 9, 2021 11:34 am

Has anyone worked out how many comments on a page before it goes to a new page?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 9, 2021 11:35 am

WA

Safest place on the planet.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 9, 2021 11:36 am

Judge Dredd says:
October 8, 2021 at 2:34 pm

If you need Ivermectin (Ziverdo kit from Indiamart). It is delivered in a nondescript box from this guy. The process is a little convoluted, but can confirm it works.

That’s your confirmation that you’re really dealing with India.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 9, 2021 11:37 am

the WA government which has banned gel blasters because they look mean

They should also ban water pistols before someone squirts Sneakers with deadly hydroxylic acid.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 9, 2021 11:44 am

581 cases for NSW today and still no sign of Grand Final party spikes as claimed by the experts in Vic.
Inconceivable.

Dot
Dot
October 9, 2021 11:44 am

https://medium.com/fearless-she-wrote/how-mens-weaponized-incompetence-is-screwing-over-women-9eeca3d7b448

Mmyes love.

Unblock any drains lately? Change any oil?

Midnight at Menin Gate epitomises male privilege in the West.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 9, 2021 11:44 am

Then there was some major casualty occurrence (I can’t remember what)

Hurricane Andrew went through those Lloyds names like a hot knife through butter.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 9, 2021 11:48 am

Secret plan to rename Southbank with Aboriginal name

Southbank would be given a new name under a secretive City of Melbourne proposal that’s linked to a $2m kangaroo sculpture.

The dramatic gesture would be part of a massive art project for the inner suburb whose centrepiece is believed to be a $2m sculpture of a giant kangaroo sitting on a chair.

It’s understood that more art works with an indigenous theme are being planned for the Dodds Street precinct that could push the total cost to $20m.

While the council has been highly secretive about the project, a briefing note from May seen by the Herald Sun gives some details about progress.

It says that a plan to rename Southbank with an indigenous name was part of the original project and “will be progressed via council engagement”.

But director of the Foundations of Western Civilisation Program at the Institute of Public Affairs, Dr Bella d’Abrera, said the trend for changing place names did nothing to address the real problems being faced by indigenous communities.

“Melbourne City Council should be focusing all its efforts on rebuilding and reanimating Melbourne’s CBD, which currently resembles an apocalyptic wasteland, thanks to nearly two years of lockdowns,” she said.

“This kind of woke virtue signalling causes nothing but confusion and division in society.”

The council did not respond directly to the Southbank name change issue, but indicated it supported street and place names that reminded people of local history, culture and citizens, and especially opportunities to recognise contributions by Aboriginal people.

Herald-Sun

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 9, 2021 11:50 am

The media is concentrating on Chappelle’s trans comments on his most recent special, “The Closer”.
Hard not to when it was 40mins of an 1:12 special.
But he did make a few comments on black people beating up Asians.
Zero comments on that from the legacy media.

Helen
Helen
October 9, 2021 11:52 am

Took mum down for her first Astra shot yesterday – big query from Dr as to why not Phizer. I whimped out and said she did not want the shots too close together. I didn’t say anything about experimental, baby cells, still not approved, side effects, call me a coward.

Helen
Helen
October 9, 2021 11:55 am

$2m sculpture of a giant kangaroo sitting on a chair.

It’s understood that more art works with an indigenous theme are being planned for the Dodds Street precinct that could push the total cost to $20m.

I suppose the chair is something Bruce Pascoe can attest was in the stone dwellings before whitey came and they forgot all how to do it?

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