Open Thread – Weekend 13 Nov 2021


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Rorschach
Rorschach
November 13, 2021 2:44 am

New Delhi – with its millions – has lower case numbers than us. A recent survey shows that over 90% have COVID antibodies. Totally normal going forward.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/6th-delhi-sero-survey-shows-97-prevalence-101635443569509.html

John H.
John H.
November 13, 2021 2:44 am

And now for something completely different.

A Monk in His Simple Room

Pogria
Pogria
November 13, 2021 2:53 am

TROIS!

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Mater
November 13, 2021 6:04 am

Ed Case says:
November 12, 2021 at 10:22 pm
Curtin was the Daniel Andrews of his day.

Like a broken clock, Ed eventually gets one right.

Mater says:
January 12, 2020 at 6:00 pm
On Curtin; do you think that he might be the only Australian Prime Minister to direct that Soviet Flags be flown on all Commonwealth buildings on Feb 23, for three years running (43-45), to celebrate “Red Army Day” – the anniversary of the founding of the Red Army?
Kinda thoughtful that he asked both State Governments and private businesses “to adopt a similar course”, don’t ya think?
FMD

Yes, it really happened.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/48785882

bespoke
bespoke
November 13, 2021 6:05 am

From the old thread.

“dis-inflationary” didn’t look right thinking ‘deflation’ was the correct term. So searched DDG, it is a term used but it’s “disinflationary”.

Mater
November 13, 2021 6:12 am

So searched DDG, it is a term used but it’s “disinflationary”.

That’s deflating. 🙁

Mark M
Mark M
November 13, 2021 6:26 am

You can also stick your fingers in your ears …

“What was noticeable to many who had attended these conferences for years was there was no challenge to the science of global warming, no argument against the need for action.

The debate was settled.”

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/on-the-brink-will-cop26-fail-greta-s-generation-20211112-p598fp.html

If you can’t question it, it’s not science.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 6:28 am

“dis-inflationary” didn’t look right thinking ‘deflation’ was the correct term.

No, they are two different things. Like displacement and velocity.

Mater
November 13, 2021 6:33 am

Ed Case says:
November 12, 2021 at 10:22 pm
Curtin was the Daniel Andrews of his day.

And just like Curtin tried to push through his socialist-inspired 1944 Referendum, using a crisis as cover, so too does Dan, with his Pandemic Bill.

On 1 October, 1942, the Curtin Government made the first public move towards its post-war objectives, Dr. H. V. Evatt, as Attorney General, brought down the Constitution Alteration (War Aims and Reconstruction) Bill to provide for a referendum to invest the Commonwealth with greatly extended peace-time powers felt necessary for the post-war reconstruction. The Bill was in sweeping terms. It stated that “the power of the Parliament shall extend to all measures which, in the declared opinion of the Parliament, will tend to achieve economic security and social justice”; and all the new powers were to be exercisable “notwithstanding anything contained elsewhere in this Constitution”. No specific time limit was laid down.

Bolding mine.
The creed of the Left; never let a crisis go to waste.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 6:37 am

Bolding mine.
The creed of the Left; never let a crisis go to waste.

Come on, man!

Let’s not forget the Patriot Act and Gladys “We Will Never Lockdown” Berejiklian.

Mater
November 13, 2021 6:43 am

Let’s not forget the Patriot Act and Gladys “We Will Never Lockdown” Berejiklian.

A Rose by any other name!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 13, 2021 6:43 am

Latest space station flight is interesting: one of the astronauts is a guy called Dr. Tom Marshburn.

Marshburn, a medical doctor, flew aboard a Space Shuttle in 2009 and a Russian Soyuz spacecraft in a mission from 2012-13.

Going into orbit on a space shuttle, a Soyuz and now a SpaceX flight is about as cool as it gets.

SpaceX Capsule With Crew of 4 Docks With ISS (12 Nov)

Mater
November 13, 2021 6:53 am

Going into orbit on a space shuttle, a Soyuz and now a SpaceX flight is about as cool as it gets.

On a related subject, recently got my Starlink internet setup.

I can strongly recommend it as a Satellite alternative for those abandoned by NBN (regional living), unsatisfied with the service, or just wanting to break away from Government control.

Reasonable costs, unlimited download and, even in this horrific storm I have over my house currently, still getting 230Mbps download and 17.1 Mbps upload.

Elon Musk has got it right with this one. Shits all over Sky Muster, which is expensive, limited, slow and Government controlled.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
November 13, 2021 6:58 am

From The Oz…

Germany’s infectious diseases agency, registered a record 50,196 new Covid-19 cases in the previous 24 hours. Until this month there had never been more than 33,000 in a single day

My work colleague in Munich was speaking of this earlier in the week. Heading back into their winter infection rates are skyrocketing. Our CHOs will be watching this with the jailers keys at the ready. Deaths are going up as well. But I do wonder as they have kept the net death rate down over the past 2 years is there a build up of dry timber in the forest? Have we now got ourselves onto a cycle we cannot get off? Another jab anyone?

shatterzzz
November 13, 2021 6:58 am

Bringing your 2022 calendar up to date .. LOL!
https://ibb.co/HNTnMGX

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 13, 2021 7:10 am

Our CHOs will be watching this with the jailers keys at the ready.

Yep.

Aussie Health Chief Says People Who Don’t Get Vaccinated Will Be “Miserable” And “Lonely” For Life (11 Nov)

The Queensland president of the Australian Medical Association said during a television appearance that people still refusing to get the vaccine will be “miserable” and “lonely” for the rest of their lives.

The AMA is bad enough at the best of times, but now they seem to’ve turned into a bunch of actual concentration camp guards. What a despicable man.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
November 13, 2021 7:11 am

Bringing your 2022 calendar up to date .. LOL!
https://ibb.co/HNTnMGX

Does it include ‘Wear your partners frock to work day?’
I don’t want to be the odd one out.

Gab
Gab
November 13, 2021 7:18 am

Aussie Health Chief Says People Who Don’t Get Vaccinated Will Be “Miserable” And “Lonely” For Life (11

He/she/it is probably right because the likes of them will ensure it. All the more reason to resist the jab when they go to such great lengths to enforce a ”vaxine” for a virus with a 99% recovery rate.

The only way this cycle will end is if the majority start refusing ”boosters”.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 7:22 am

I can compromise with Novavax – if it ever gets bloody approval.

Mater
November 13, 2021 7:24 am

The only way this cycle will end is if the majority start refusing ”boosters”.

+1
That is the new defensive line.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 7:25 am

I don’t think the majority of people will go along with boosters.

Although, the current Deputy Premier of NSW said we must get boosters to stay free.

His prior leader also said we would never lockdown.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 7:27 am

I do not accept “nOvAvAx Is TrEaSoN” either.

Guess what. Einstein presented his papers and left Germany.

He lived.

Mater
November 13, 2021 7:30 am

Although, the current Deputy Premier of NSW said we must get boosters to stay free.

I’d be nice if they could at least maintain the facade that this was about health. Maintaining the blissful ignorance of the sheep is important. Surely this would have been more appropriate:

Although, the current Deputy Premier of NSW said we must get boosters to stay free safe.

rosie
rosie
November 13, 2021 7:33 am

That’s interesting Rorschach.
Last time (I think it was me) it was suggested that everyone would eventually get exposed to covid the notion got shouted down.
And I wouldn’t be surprised after covid has run free in India since it first arrived that they had lower case numbers, now.
And to think just a few months ago Australian citizens and permanent residents in India were demanding medivax flights to Australia as Indian hospitals were overwhelmed with covid cases.

rosie
rosie
November 13, 2021 7:36 am

Oh and the article makes it clear they’ve either had covid or been vaccinated, with no attempt to differentiate between the two.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 7:37 am

I’d be nice if they could at least maintain the facade that this was about health. Maintaining the blissful ignorance of the sheep is important. Surely this would have been more appropriate:

I have concerns about ethics and safety, sure. Even the liberty stuff is second order

The biggest issue for me is the constant lying or failure to admit mistakes were ever made (or that they really didn’t know what to do).

That pisses me off the most. Gladys refused to admit the Ruby Princess was a mistake.

Also keep in mind that for a three week period in around mid 2020, Australia had no community transmission post lockdown #1.

We could have locked the borders, gone back to normal (except for the borders*), waited for Novavax and then opened up the borders three months later.

It would have minimised coercion, minimised risk and made the economy less worse off. There would have been costs but it would have been the least worst option.

*Actually, we could have had 4 – 6 weeks of offshore quarantine if people really needed to come back or get legitimate asylum – like we could have done for the Ruby Princess.

rosie
rosie
November 13, 2021 7:41 am

That article about the cdc and pregnancy failure.
With so many millions of young women now vaccinated and either pregnant or having had babies why aren’t we hearing more?
And why are newborns dying of pulmonary haemorrhages confined to to one anonymous hospital in the UK and the only source for that story remains one anonymous midwife?
After that being circulated globally you’d think more stories would emerge.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 7:42 am

Last time (I think it was me) it was suggested that everyone would eventually get exposed to covid the notion got shouted down.

That’s what Dr Norm and Scotty implied in late March 2020.

Two weeks to flatten the curve was to protect the vulnerable and stop the hospitals being overrun. We were going to get herd immunity before that anti science fascist Trumpkins would let Saint Fauci release a vaccine. Things were going to get better in 2021.

WolfmanOz (just existing in Melb. now)
WolfmanOz (just existing in Melb. now)
November 13, 2021 7:44 am

A shameless plug for my YouTube channel ! ! !

Well as a distraction from the interminable Melbourne lockdowns and climate change insanity I’ve set up and worked on my own YouTube channel – WW Movie Clips – although it’s not for making money, probably more to do with self-satisfaction and ego more than anything else.

I have been uploading movie clips and compilations that I have created and edited from my vast digital library as I’ve always had a rather eclectic taste in films, albeit with a tendency to hark back towards the old rather than the new as I have very little interest or care for the current crop of garbage that is being churned out today.

I’m also a huge fan of Laurel & Hardy. This timeless comedy duo have provided unbridled joy to countless millions and will do so forever and a day. Therefore, I have 2 dedicated playlists including all their comedy shorts.

Currently the channel has nearly 350 movie clips and 62 Laurel & Hardy shorts. There’s no reason why this won’t continue to grow into thousands of clips over time etc etc.

I will be endeavouring to upload 6-9 clips and/or compilations per week to keep the channel fresh and appealing.

If you’re interested, take a look . . .

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5HgRxCsMBmMATeht46vmig

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 7:49 am

The Queensland president of the Australian Medical Association said during a television appearance that people still refusing to get the vaccine will be “miserable” and “lonely” for the rest of their lives.

These lunatics want to enforce a vaccine mandate for decades?

It’s almost at the point where you have to attack doctors directly because their professional bodies have been promoting medical fascism for yonks.

Rabz
November 13, 2021 7:50 am

people still refusing to get the vaccine will be “miserable” and “lonely” for the rest of their lives

It’ll make a change from “angry” and “disgusted”, so there’s that, at least.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 7:53 am

It will be interesting what Dom Puppetett does on or after Dec. 15.

“King Ray Hadley orders Vizier Puppetett to lock up anti-vaccine vigilantes who threaten our liberty and security…”

Old Ray Hadley went to town
For to buy a microphone
(Raucous British laughter intensifies)

Pogria
Pogria
November 13, 2021 7:54 am

Wolf.
that looks fantastic! Another excuse for me to not do any work! LOL. I haven’t seen any Laurel and Hardy for so long. I can introduce my son to them.

I also prefer the older movies. Thanks for the obvious work it takes to put that up there for us all.

rosie
rosie
November 13, 2021 7:54 am
Mater
November 13, 2021 7:58 am

Last time (I think it was me) it was suggested that everyone would eventually get exposed to covid the notion got shouted down.

I find that difficult to believe.
The reality that everyone will (must) catch Covid has been standard fare on the Cat since at at least 28 March 2020.
Very few have challenged the conclusion (although Numbers did call it “insane” at the time).

Rabz
November 13, 2021 7:59 am

It will be interesting what Dom Puppetett does on or after Dec. 15

As noted before, those vile fascist imbeciles can never remove restrictions on the unjabbenated, because the whole potemkinesque bat flu hysteria industrial complex will vanish up its fundament overnight if they do.

After 21 months of this incomprehensible insanity, can you see them willingly allowing that to happen, Pol?

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 13, 2021 8:00 am

The biggest issue for me is the constant lying or failure to admit mistakes were ever made (or that they really didn’t know what to do).

You’re spot on Dot. If I thought the vaccine (and all the associated “information”) was safe, true and correct I would get it. I don’t and I’m not.

calli
calli
November 13, 2021 8:02 am

Last time (I think it was me) it was suggested that everyone would eventually get exposed to covid the notion got shouted down.

They were all kind to me when I opined “we’re all going to get it, one way or another” a few weeks ago. And if we travel – definitely.

That’s why the “treatment” line should be pursued vigorously. Perhaps it is and we don’t see it, being eclipsed by the vaxx obsession.

Meanwhile, I have a little granddaughter to keep me company this morning! She has asked me to teach her how to sew. Bliss.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 8:04 am

After 21 months of this incomprehensible insanity, can you see them willingly allowing that to happen, Pol?

No. It will either blow up in their faces or become even worse.

If it blows up the establishment, ruling party tetropoly, then perhaps this insanity was worth it after all, but I cant reconcile that with the poor sods who died from the mandates (adverse reactions) or mismanagement (locking people up in confined spaces [oldies]).

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 13, 2021 8:04 am

people still refusing to get the vaccine will be “miserable” and “lonely” for the rest of their lives

If that is all, sign me up.

sfw
sfw
November 13, 2021 8:04 am

“people still refusing to get the vaccine will be “miserable” and “lonely” for the rest of their lives”

What happened to ‘First do no harm’?

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 8:06 am

Old Ray Hadley went to town
For to buy a microphone

Trust me, this is a certified hood classic.

“Dom will sing a different tune
when he is declared an outlaw”

calli
calli
November 13, 2021 8:06 am

Snap! Mater.

I was distracted. 😀

Loved reading RickW’s RACV adventures on the dead thread. What an excellent callout for the budding engineer, rather than a dreary tyre change or fuel top up. He will be relishing his problem solving skills and maybe checking his kit for a few unusual spares.

rosie
rosie
November 13, 2021 8:08 am

I recall differently.
It wasn’t that long ago, people were citing figures that x percentage of people in this country and that country when the high levels of people in India with antibodies was mentioned.

rosie
rosie
November 13, 2021 8:09 am

Well you are the nice one calli.

Mater
November 13, 2021 8:10 am

What happened to ‘First do no harm’?

The veneer of ‘compassion’ wore off as we rumbled towards the critical mass of 70% vaccinated.

Poison and evil is always coated in a light dusting of compassion. Like an icing sugar dusting, it helps the masses swallow it, after which it’s too late.

Mater
November 13, 2021 8:11 am

I recall differently.

Mater
#3380938, posted on March 28, 2020 at 3:09 pm

Ok. So Bob thought my ‘Key Point Defence’ option this morning (06:40) was insane.
Let me explain it in a little more detail
Action:
Protect all vulnerable individuals from exposure using best possible means (more or less what we are currently doing through isolation). Others (the young and healthy) get back to work in order to provide essential services and get the economy moving as best as possible.
Why:
The risk of overwhelming the ICU beds seems to emanate from the vulnerable (elderly and compromised). If they are properly protected through isolation, their requirement for ICU beds should be minimal.
Those young and healthy individuals who fall ill and require an ICU bed (a much smaller percentage of a smaller exposed population base) should be able to be catered for. As you can see, the virus itself allows us to ‘flatten the curve’ naturally because of its lessened impact on younger people.
Meanwhile, the ‘workers’ get the virus, get through the virus and build up an immunity, all whilst keeping the country ticking. Once we get through this period (hopefully not too long) and all the ICU beds are free again, start lifting the restrictions on the more vulnerable (staged, if required). Hopefully the virus is under control by this stage, but if not, the potential numbers requiring the ICU beds is much smaller and we can better regulate it through release rates.
The benefit here is that we have now have a healthy, immune workforce which can freely cater to the needs of those falling sick, we also keep the country limping along and it counters the problem of the reinfection spike that is likely to occur once a totally locked down country, emerges.
I don’t see anything cruel or insane about this plan. It’s just using the one characteristic of the virus that we are reasonably sure of, against it. We flatten the curve by smart, controlled exposure, in the order we want. Basically, we fight the battle at a time and place of our choosing to make best use of what resources we have (there is another military analogy, Bob).
Discuss? Am I cruel or insane? I must know.

rosie
rosie
November 13, 2021 8:12 am

And I have a particular commentor in mind (not here atm) but I have no intention of looking back to check and I don’t keep dossiers so will leave it at that.

rosie
rosie
November 13, 2021 8:13 am

Why did I get up early and hang washing outside?

Aaron
Aaron
November 13, 2021 8:16 am

“The Queensland president of the Australian Medical Association said during a television appearance that people still refusing to get the vaccine will be “miserable” and “lonely” for the rest of their lives”.

That will make the medically exempt cheer up.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 13, 2021 8:17 am

They were all kind to me when I opined “we’re all going to get it, one way or another” a few weeks ago. And if we travel – definitely.

If they can’t cure it (like the AIDS virus) or contain it (like smallpox) this was the inevitable result. We aren’t watching AIDS ads anymore because, at least in the West, it is relatively easy to avoid being exposed to the virus and relatively straightforward to treat those people who are.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 8:17 am

Awesome. I have some fellow patriots who are too uncool to be asked on a date to go and see Hamilton and have to watch Turn: Washington’s Spies at home, chilling on Netflix.

Mater
November 13, 2021 8:17 am

And I have a particular commentor in mind (not here atm) but I have no intention of looking back to check and I don’t keep dossiers so will leave it at that.

Comments from ‘a particular commentor’ hardly constitutes being ‘shouted down’ on the Cat.

Last time (I think it was me) it was suggested that everyone would eventually get exposed to covid the notion got shouted down.

As for ‘I don’t keep dossiers’, it’s unfortunate you don’t, or you could check what ACTUALLY happened.

calli
calli
November 13, 2021 8:18 am

Rosie, it has become reflexive. I understand why you challenge the group think on certain issues, or just present a different story without comment.

We have an abundance of “information” some as dodgy as. From both sides of the vaxx argument, unfortunately.

And just to add to the weirdness – I’m watching some children’s cartoon on Netflix (Vivo) where some officious child-Karens are asking another child for a “vaccination certificate” and chasing her because she doesn’t have one.

calli
calli
November 13, 2021 8:19 am

Yikes. “Watching a

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 8:22 am

I think the Kangaroo Court lunatic has had his broken watch moment today, championing old school lefty Bernard Collaery.

We don’t need “super secret evidence” unless it involves national security or the protection of children.

Outside that, only fascist or communist regimes need “super secret evidence”.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 13, 2021 8:24 am

A lawyer who has railed against COVID-19 restrictions and sought to challenge them in the courts has been suspended from legal practice.

In NSW. In Viktoristan all the lawyers were bought off years ago.

Rabz
November 13, 2021 8:26 am

some officious child-Karens are asking another child for a “vaccination certificate” and chasing her because she doesn’t have one

Collectivist totalitarians and child abuse. Again. For a change. Like never before.

bespoke
bespoke
November 13, 2021 8:26 am

What’s wrong with using “some”?

Rabz
November 13, 2021 8:28 am

“super secret evidence”

As opposed to “super secret squirrel evidence”, mountains of which is buried in a backyard somewhere in WA.

calli
calli
November 13, 2021 8:28 am

I used it three times in the one comment. Poor editing.

Standards must be maintained. Even if they are low.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 13, 2021 8:29 am

Did anyone notice that the Italian Government revised btheir Covid-19 death toll down from 131,000 to 3,000?
And if we subtract the False Positives from the 3,000 we’re left with, oh, in round figures, around zero?

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 13, 2021 8:29 am

I expect that Bernard Collaery issue has got a long way to go. It is just a smouldering coal that has fallen on the carpet at the moment.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 13, 2021 8:31 am

Low standards are the only ones worth having.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 13, 2021 8:34 am

I think the Kangaroo Court lunatic has had his broken watch moment today, championing old school lefty Bernard Collaery.

I don’t.
The spin here is that Australia shouldn’t be spying on East Timor.
Why?
They’re an unfriendly Regime that Australia has spent billions propping up.
This Collaery is a shit stirrer, that may be just okay in domestic politics, but not at the risk of national security.

bespoke
bespoke
November 13, 2021 8:35 am

Low standards are the only ones worth having.

And this has been my gift to the Cat-erers.

No need to thank me.

Zipster
Zipster
November 13, 2021 8:38 am

He/she/it is probably right because the likes of them will ensure it. All the more reason to resist the jab when they go to such great lengths to enforce a ”vaxine” for a virus with a 99% recovery rate.

try 99.95 for the under 60s

Rabz
November 13, 2021 8:38 am

Did anyone notice that the Italian Government revised their Covid-19 death toll down from 131,000 to 3,000?

Funnily enough, no, Ed. However, I see various collectivist factlet checkers are out there busily screeching that it ain’t true.

Can’t imagine any Italian stopping their interminable arm waving or grandiosely diving in pretend penalty boxes (while listening to an opera) to readjust any imaginary figures in the first place.

WolfmanOz (just existing in Melb. now)
WolfmanOz (just existing in Melb. now)
November 13, 2021 8:38 am

Wolf.
that looks fantastic! Another excuse for me to not do any work! LOL. I haven’t seen any Laurel and Hardy for so long. I can introduce my son to them.

I also prefer the older movies. Thanks for the obvious work it takes to put that up there for us all.

Thank-you Pogria – much appreciated.

It’s been a lot of fun!

The easy part has been editing the clips, the real work is organising the clips, reviewing and understanding the analytics for the channel plus designing the watermarks, banners, trailer etc.

I’ve learnt lots and as I said it’s not for making money (I’m comfortably retired) but as a fun distraction from the insanity of the world today (COVID, climate change etc).

Crossie
Crossie
November 13, 2021 8:39 am

The only way this cycle will end is if the majority start refusing ”boosters”.

I know of several vaccinated people who did it to be able to continue to work. They now say that they will not get the booster, enough is enough.

If it was only to continue to work I would refuse but the government have a hostage, my mother is in a nursing home and if I want to see her I must pay the ransom.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 13, 2021 8:42 am

I think the Kangaroo Court lunatic has had his broken watch moment today, championing old school lefty Bernard Collaery.

I don’t

That seals it them.

mem
mem
November 13, 2021 8:43 am

I watched the IBAC hearing yesterday. Nothing I didn’t know already but learned that this apparently is the Vic Labor standard approach to dirty deeds (from the mouth of the polly on the stand) “First deny and then lie”. I thought it would make a great slogan for all government vehicles.

Twostix
Twostix
November 13, 2021 8:44 am

Covid Karen #1 again sneaks in and tries to fabricate another round of history.

Calli she’s not challenging “group think” she’s just a Covid Karen Hi Alanist posing as a Concerned Citizen. Nearly two years she’s been playing the same character: protect the covid outrage of the day by hen pecking opposition and drowning the place under 5000 slippery monty-inspired comment binges about it quoting snopes and factcheck.org, then lie about it two months later when the wrongology bill arrives.

Crossie
Crossie
November 13, 2021 8:46 am

Although, the current Deputy Premier of NSW said we must get boosters to stay free.

We would be stupid not to understand them correctly. The current lockdown has nothing to do with health and everything to do with power, and that grinning jackass Keane clearly admits it.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 13, 2021 8:48 am

… she’s just a Covid Karen Hi Alanist posing as a Concerned Citizen. Nearly two years she’s been playing the same character:

Why would anyone bother to go to all that trouble?
Is she a fanatic or could there be another explanation?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 13, 2021 8:49 am

I see that last night on the old thread a bantam cock cried out upon a Catallaxy rock.

Just the usual fixation, character assassination dressed up as a feeble satire.

Someone should teach her manners.

I don’t regard myself as a Catallaxian any more so I’ll say my Merry Christmas now. Eleven years of commenting here in good faith now is down the drain and I will not change my mind about that, for so clearly is the bantam who has chased me for most of that time well within the pale here. Too many windsocks upticking for my liking as well. For those who may appreciate what I contribute, I continue to comment as Elizabeth on Quadrant and as Kathleen (my nana’s name) on The Australian: mostly yesterday on the Oz story ‘Cancel Culture clips Richard Dawkins wings’, an interview with Dawkins at the age of eighty.

She will now come in with her usual schtick about oh she’s back, but I am not.
Just having my sub’s worth about her crowing and handing her back to you to enjoy.

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 8:51 am

Going into orbit on a space shuttle, a Soyuz and now a SpaceX flight is about as cool as it gets.

No it’s not. As cool as it gets is owning “a couple of refineries down south” like Carl Icahn. That’s as cool as it gets. Nothing else comes close.

calli
calli
November 13, 2021 8:51 am

I have watched events unfold too. My perspective will be different, as each individual is different.

Ruthless, daily evisceration is not argument.

But then, all sweetness and light and it wouldn’t be The Cat either.

Indolent
Indolent
November 13, 2021 8:52 am

https://rumble.com/vp3h2w-whistleblowers-speak-on-covid-19-vaccine-injuries-long.html

Gab, despite knowing about this in general terms, this video is unbelievably confronting. It is the here and now and people are literally being forced to take this risk. On top of this, we will be losing the best best and most conscientious health workers who, apart from their own personal risk in taking the jab, refuse in all conscience to participate in this travesty. Our health system is completely broken. The job of hospital administrators now seems to be to hide the truth and threaten staff into silence.

And the media turns a blind eye. This should be distributed far and wide. People MUST be made aware of what is happening. Telling them is one thing but showing them direct personal experience is quite another.

Indolent
Indolent
November 13, 2021 8:55 am

Guess what. Einstein presented his papers and left Germany.

Where would he have gone today?

bespoke
bespoke
November 13, 2021 8:55 am

We would be stupid not to understand them correctly. The current lockdown has nothing to do with health and everything to do with power

Other options:

#Clumsy and ignorant of historical precedents.
#A mix of both.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 13, 2021 8:57 am

For those interested in such esoteric matters, I have put some thoughts on First AIF service numbers in the comments on Muddy’s latest (this morning) thread.

Twostix
Twostix
November 13, 2021 8:59 am

The grandest highlight of all remains hysterical notafan calling me “hysterical” when I stated the obvious late last year re the then still slightly conspiracy theory ‘passports’: unvaccinated people would soon be ‘locked down’ and banned from life.

Oops.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 13, 2021 9:01 am

Last time (I think it was me) it was suggested that everyone would eventually get exposed to covid the notion got shouted down.

Being exposed and becoming symptomatic are two different things.
A “case” of a disease used to be showing up symptomatic for treatment. This definition has been changed to “testing positive” with a dodgy test.

Twostix
Twostix
November 13, 2021 9:02 am

Meanwhile:

Austria is days away from introducing a lockdown for millions of people who are not fully vaccinated against COVID-19,

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 13, 2021 9:05 am

Do flouncees have standing?

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 9:07 am

Where would he have gone today?

Mexico

Einstein and Alcubierre.

EPIC!

Crossie
Crossie
November 13, 2021 9:07 am

I have noticed something interesting about the arbitrary covid rules and restrictions, the educated and those I thought of reasonable intellect swallow it all up and offer no resistance. It is young people and even school kids who are talking about the illogic of it all. It seems that our education system has not managed to completely eradicate in our young the ability to reason.

rickw
rickw
November 13, 2021 9:07 am

people still refusing to get the vaccine will be “miserable” and “lonely” for the rest of their lives

That’s ok and desirable?

Fucking arseholes.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 13, 2021 9:07 am

#Clumsy and ignorant of historical precedents.

The British tried to enforce a Smallpox Vax Mandate in the 1860s.
Refusers had their homes and contents seized and sold.
It was brought undone by neighbours attending the resulting Auctions, buying the seized property back and returning it to the rightful owners
Governments will be aware of this misstep and spent 150+ years closing the loopholes.

Twostix
Twostix
November 13, 2021 9:07 am

Is she a fanatic or could there be another explanation?

Why does anyone do it? Why did Monty sacrifice a year of weekends with his family to instead prosecute the case that Donald Trump was a secret Russian spy?

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
November 13, 2021 9:07 am

May I ask, are all the people who have tested positive to Covid expected to also be vaccinated, despite their level of symptoms?

JMH
JMH
November 13, 2021 9:08 am

BINGO.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 9:09 am

Austria is days away from introducing a lockdown for millions of people who are not fully vaccinated against COVID-19,

You’ve gotta leave the west if you don’t have kids yet.

Perhaps, you should leave to help your kids anyway?

Gab
Gab
November 13, 2021 9:10 am

Pregnant women are advised not to eat raw shellfish, soft cheeses, not to smoke or drink during pregnancy and yet they’re told it’s ”100% safe” to have an experimental vaccine that has no long term safety data. Madness.

Real Deal
Real Deal
November 13, 2021 9:11 am

Hi Lizzie,

I don’t post here very often but lurk and enjoy many witty posters. I have even appreciated your main foe’s posts here when she shares anecdotes about music and her career in the public service. I learned not to post much on forums many years ago when I got into too many stoushes with people. So, can I urge you not to leave? The scroll function is your greatest assett when people are mean spirited. In my few dealings with you on the Cat you have been kind, courteous and thoughtful. Please reconsider!

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 13, 2021 9:13 am

If you want some (non JC) realestate pron realestate.com and “Lovett Bay” might be worth a look.

https://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-nsw-lovett+bay-137351322

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
November 13, 2021 9:13 am

Dear Lizzie, I echo Real Deal’s comment. All the best, Hz

calli
calli
November 13, 2021 9:14 am

May I ask, are all the people who have tested positive to Covid expected to also be vaccinated, despite their level of symptoms?

Yes.

I have noticed, during Walter Mitty-ing over international travel, that some countries will allow entry without Vaxx certificate if you have recovered from Covid, but there’s a catch being a time limit.

Apparently, “da Science” says that natural protection via antibodies wanes after an arbitrary number of days. So there.

All nonsense, of course, as other evidence shows that natural immunity is by far the best immunity, even for mutations.

custard
custard
November 13, 2021 9:14 am

Stephen Bannon has been indicted by a grand jury for failing to provide documents to the January 6th committee.

He did so to protect Trumps executive privilege.

Gab
Gab
November 13, 2021 9:14 am

Austria is days away from introducing a lockdown for millions of people who are not fully vaccinated against COVID-19,

Talk about blackmail. And what does ”fully vaccinated” mean? Two jabs, three, four?

Andrews will do the same here especially using his permanent pandemic bill powers. And he’ll blame it on the unvaxxed, forgetting that the unvaxxed have restricted movement already and completely ignoring the viral load of the vaxxed and that they can still get infected and can still pass it on.

This has gone beyond insanity. It is diabolical.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 13, 2021 9:14 am

I’m thinking of a bad western movie where the hero has taken 27 bullets to the torso and is still alive.
He gasps and says: “promise me you will feed the chooks Mabel”, she replies: “your chooks are safe with me Clem”.
This drags on for another 5 minutes until he goes quiet. Only to be woken by the sound of another bullet hitting his torso.
[This is the stage in the movie where you come to understand how a Baldwin accident might happen.]
I presume it is narcissism that makes some actors so reluctant to follow the script and just leave the frickin’ stage.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 13, 2021 9:16 am

Apropos of Einstein:

Where would he have gone today?

Poland.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 13, 2021 9:17 am

The Covid success of TaliDan.
Victoria – 26% Aust population
Deaths – 65%
All cases – 55%
Active -83%

Any medical professional who supports this fool and his puppets should be struck off.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 9:17 am

Stephen Bannon has been indicted by a grand jury for failing to provide documents to the January 6th committee.

Did he actually have an official position?

This seems like a witch hunt, BUT, this will get very interesting.

Twostix
Twostix
November 13, 2021 9:19 am

During the “two weeks to flatten the curve” lockdown that wasn’t, it was predicted by many that not only was it not going to be two weeks, but that lock downs would become regional, then suburb by suburb, then used as a compliance tool against people and areas who refuse to get on board the revolution with enough enthusiasm.

Those were the days.

Indolent
Indolent
November 13, 2021 9:20 am
custard
custard
November 13, 2021 9:20 am

The committee had also requested documents from Kaley McEnany and Mark Meadows which they too, declined to provide.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 13, 2021 9:21 am

A double-encore triple-flounce.

And I was here to see it. Man, good times.

custard
custard
November 13, 2021 9:24 am

The leaking of James O’Keefe’s phone to the NYT by the FBI and now Bannons indictment is all the proof that you need to understand the politicisation of the DOJ.

Twostix
Twostix
November 13, 2021 9:25 am

Does anyone argue the last 18 months weren’t a revolution anymore?

Even the revolutionaries happily talk about their successful revolution out in the open now.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
November 13, 2021 9:25 am

So, using time limits, the medico- political complex can control the population forever via jab availability.
The only way out for individuals as far as I can see is reducing any tax-paying activities. Restrict purchases as far as possible to gst free items. Live on $18,000 a year income. Entertain yourself – hobbies etc. Reduce travel to day trips.
Won’t work for young folks for much longer however, even if the only possible employment is enforced government groupthink work in the public service, hopefully they will rebel.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 13, 2021 9:26 am

Listening to the ALPBC Perth report. “ … take a book and an umbrella.” At least this is accurate.

calli
calli
November 13, 2021 9:27 am

The only way out for individuals as far as I can see is reducing any tax-paying activities. Restrict purchases as far as possible to gst free items. Live on $18,000 a year income. Entertain yourself – hobbies etc. Reduce travel to day trips.

The Great Reset

Reduced consumption
Reduced travel
Reduced standard of living

bespoke
bespoke
November 13, 2021 9:28 am

The only way out for individuals as far as I can see is reducing any tax-paying activities. Restrict purchases as far as possible to gst free items. Live on $18,000 a year income. Entertain yourself – hobbies etc. Reduce travel to day trips.

Been doing this for years.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 9:28 am

So, using time limits, the medico- political complex can control the population forever via jab availability.
The only way out for individuals as far as I can see is reducing any tax-paying activities. Restrict purchases as far as possible to gst free items. Live on $18,000 a year income. Entertain yourself – hobbies etc. Reduce travel to day trips.

Lay flat
Agorism
Barter
Create your own community
Move away from the cities
Work for yourself
Cut your expenses
Absolutely minimise your tax liabilities
Home school
Possibly leave Australia…

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 13, 2021 9:28 am

*surf report

Rabz
November 13, 2021 9:28 am

As usual, Leak Jnr has the fat bumptious boofhead pegged.

Worst PM ever.

Rabz
November 13, 2021 9:29 am

The Great Reset

Reduced consumption
Reduced travel
Reduced standard of living

Culminating in you owning nothing, being happy and loving big brother long time (or else).

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 13, 2021 9:30 am

Worst PM ever.

“I’m Kevin from Queensland and I’m here to help.”

Cassie of Sydney
November 13, 2021 9:30 am

“Real Dealsays:
November 13, 2021 at 9:11 am”

Thank you. I’ve been in email contact with Lizzie and whilst I doubt she’ll be back, I will do my best to encourage her. Sometimes we all need a break from here. Anyway, you’re 100% right, the scroll button is useful. I suspect it was the “upticking” which got to her…..we can all be sensitive to such things.

Just for the record, I’m not the only one here who is lucky enough to know Lizzie (and Hairy) personally. They are both wonderful, intelligent, intellectual and very warm hearted people.

Lizzie is already missed and for those few mean spirited people out there who disagree with me on that, I recommend you just scroll me or, as Ma Sheelah once said….tough titties.

Jorge
Jorge
November 13, 2021 9:33 am

Anti-vax priest stands down over ‘very strong views’
A Heathcote priest has been removed from his parish because of his “very strong views” about Covid vaccines.

Tyranny. Mass Hysteria. Witchcraft all come to mind.

I find it staggering that friends and family cannot see what is happening all around us.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
November 13, 2021 9:36 am

Worst PM ever.

That’s some stiff competition;

Shitlam
Fraser
Gillzilla
The Tarin Kowt Scout
Malturd

Rabz
November 13, 2021 9:37 am

I find it staggering that friends and family cannot see what is happening all around us.

What’s even worse is that too many of them are fully on board with it. These are supposedly intelligent people. There’s more to life than gorging yourself stupid on the ALPBC, the Silly Moaning Haemorrhoid and the Garudain.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
November 13, 2021 9:37 am

I only intend using the Great Reset strategies until the Great Overthrow. Ever the optimist!

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 13, 2021 9:37 am

Indolent says:
November 13, 2021 at 9:21 am
83% of Covid-19 Deaths and 67% of Hospitalisations were among the Fully Vaccinated during the past month in England

And to make matters worse – 6.6% of the hospitalisations (at least one night) were aged under eighteen.
This group includes all those ages who haven’t been approved to receive the vaccine.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 13, 2021 9:39 am

Aha! So those numbers at the end of some posts are not the author’s dick size!

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
November 13, 2021 9:41 am

Dot says:
November 13, 2021 at 9:28 am

Add to your list

Learn to sail
Buy a boat that can sleep 4 (minimum)

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 9:42 am

I think the tyranny has broken people.

Some sense from a year ago:

https://aicd.companydirectors.com.au/membership/company-director-magazine/2020-back-editions/october/how-have-directors-whs-obligations-changed

Winter says organisations need to assess and respond to the level of presenting risk. “Requiring people to wear masks in a state where there’s currently no exposure to the hazard, because there are no active cases of COVID-19, would be like saying, ‘We’re going to turn on the water for our fire sprinklers now because there’s a bushfire on the east coast of Australia’,” he says.

calli
calli
November 13, 2021 9:44 am

I suspect it was the “upticking” which got to her…..we can all be sensitive to such things.

Of course. The Smurf thumbs are a mixed blessing, and anyone with a functioning synapse knows it. Some of us just don’t care, others will care very much indeed. As for overt trolling, I’ve had incessant attention over trivia, often amounting to stalking.

Cassie, you fight. I ignore. But whatever you do, don’t take it to heart. Nothing…nothing an internet stranger imagines about you or accuses you of can possibly be the sum of you. How could it be?

There’s a lot of stupidity out there.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 9:45 am

Cringeworthy and childish.

An offer of free beer to push COVID vaccinations in NSW | 7NEWS

(Comments are turned off.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwM-sWC9qMc

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 13, 2021 9:46 am

Wolfman, look at on the pc later. My favorites were Busyer Keaton and Harry Langdon. There was once a series from the BBC on yesteryear movies, brilliant, presented by Michael Bentine, when I was a kid. Don’t remember the name.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 13, 2021 9:48 am

Greens to lead crackdown with ‘tycoon tax’

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Greens leader Adam Bandt will push Labor to help raise $391bn in tax raids on billionaires and large firms over a decade, heaping pressure on Anthony Albanese to ­release details of his crackdown on multinational companies.

Mr Bandt will release the Greens tax avoidance framework and new modelling by the Parliamentary Budget Office on Saturday, moving ahead of Mr Albanese and opposition Treasury spokesman Jim Chalmers, who are close to finalising Labor’s crackdown on multinational companies.

Speaking at the Greens national conference, Mr Bandt will back a global minimum corporate tax rate of 25 per cent for multinationals and call for a stop to the “artificial shifting of debt to Australia to increase tax deductions”.

Under the Greens plan, multinational companies would need to stop tax deductions for royalties paid to other arms of the same company and publicly provide ­details of beneficial owners to “see who really owns what”.

The left-wing party also wants basic information published on tax paid by companies earning more than $50m and for the Australian Taxation Office to reveal details of tax dispute settlements with multinational firms.

Mr Bandt said if the Greens held the balance of power after next year’s election, he would ­demand “big corporations and billionaires pay for their fair share of tax”.

“In balance of power, we will push to close the loopholes that allow money shifting offshore, by forcing companies to pay based on their global debt-to-equity ratio. We will push to increase transparency, by forcing companies to publish what they pay, and ban ­secret settlements with the ATO,” Mr Bandt will say in his speech.

“And we will improve monitoring and enforcement, by establishing a public register of beneficial owners. We’re being robbed and we need to get this cash back. We must close the loopholes and stop the cash train departing our country.”

PBO analysis of the Greens five-point tax crackdown suggests about $4.5bn could be clawed back under the new rules. When added to the Greens existing tax measures targeting “billionaires, tycoons and super-profits”, more than $391bn in revenue would be raised over the decade.

Mr Bandt – who targets several major companies in his speech including ExxonMobil Australia and Apple – will say the Greens support a minimum 25 per cent global tax rate for multinational companies, exceeding the 15 per cent endorsed by the G20 last month.

“Right now, one in three big corporations don’t pay any tax. The Greens believe that big corporations making big profits should pay tax. In balance of power, the Greens will push to make big corporations and billionaires pay their fair share of tax,” he will say.

“There will be a billionaires’ tax on billionaires’ obscene wealth, which grew faster during the pandemic than the wealth of billionaires in any other country. We will push for a ‘tycoons tax’ on the super-profits made by big corporations.”

The Greens will announce ­additional measures targeting “fossil fuel handouts” and oil and gas companies before the election.

Dr Chalmers, who is working on Labor’s package targeting multinational tax evasion and tax havens, last month said he wanted to “make sure multinationals pay their fair share of tax where they make their money”. He said while some countries would like to set a higher international rate than the 15 per cent minimum for multinationals, he supported any move that backed a fairer global tax ­system.

“We’ll have more to say between now and the next election, whether it’s about tax havens or multinational tax evasion. When it comes to tax havens, we do want to see more transparency. We’ve had policies in this area in the past. We are working on updating our policies,” Dr Chalmers said.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 13, 2021 9:49 am

So, using time limits, the medico- political complex can control the population forever via jab availability.

I was going to put a recommendation here that people start sticking up pharmacies because they are the softest of soft targets, half-inching all their high-end tranks and hillbilly heroin and making gazillions selling it to the nearest housos, who will pay for it by jacking ATMs at pokie venues in the middle of the night.

I was also going to say that insurance for that industry would skyrocket, as would the premiums for courier companies when they get ambushed and rolled en route to said pharmacies. Blokes with boiler suits, balaclavas and sawnoffs making off with hundreds of thousands of oxy at a time. It would become unsustainable for corporate insurers.

I was going to mention that then the housos, full of prescription meds would attempt to raid doctors’ surgeries and the abovementioned venues (servos as well), but being off their tits and not very good at it in any event they’d get pinched. They would then claim ‘but mental health’ as a defence in court (like Andrew O’Keeffe and Michael Slater), thus further clogging part of the medical system and almost all the judicial system for years.

Thus, the medico-political system is partly controlled by uncontrolled activity. Not everything would go their way.

Of course, if I were to actually say these things I would have added a NADT at the end.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 9:49 am

PBO analysis of the Greens five-point tax crackdown suggests about $4.5bn could be clawed back under the new rules. When added to the Greens existing tax measures targeting “billionaires, tycoons and super-profits”, more than $391bn in revenue would be raised over the decade.

Are they talking about Pfizer?

WolfmanOz (just existing in Melb. now)
WolfmanOz (just existing in Melb. now)
November 13, 2021 9:50 am

Hey GreyRanga – thanks for that.

Yes I remember the series – The Golden Silents – probably was the start of my love for the classic silent comedians.

I have a number of Chaplin and Keaton clips on my channel as well.

Rabz
November 13, 2021 9:51 am

the Greens’ tax avoidance framework

Coming soon to a government near you.

mem
mem
November 13, 2021 9:53 am

A great post to send to the virtue signaling early vaxers that have no problems with the mandate and think nurses should lose their jobs.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/cardiologist-said-wont-cry-funeral-selfish-unvaccinated-people-suddenly-dies-sleep-2-weeks-3rd-covid-jab/

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 13, 2021 9:54 am

But whatever you do, don’t take it to heart. Nothing…nothing an internet stranger imagines about you or accuses you of can possibly be the sum of you. How could it be?

Bang on.

Roger
Roger
November 13, 2021 9:55 am

The ABC are bringing out their intellectual heavy hitters to back up Paul Keating on China.

First up, Stan Grant.

Today, Laura Tingle.

Tomorrow, B1 & B2?

Delta A
Delta A
November 13, 2021 9:55 am

Meanwhile, I have a little granddaughter to keep me company this morning! She has asked me to teach her how to sew.

Another treasured memory in the making. Enjoy every minute of it, calli.

We have Grandson staying with us, and he’s intent on teaching the oldies every detail about his latest obsession. At breakfast: “Granny, what was the side of Mount St Helens that blew up on May 18, 1980… on a Sunday? But I’m not sure of the time. 8.34 am, I think.”

I failed that one, along with those about the EVI of volcanoes. Never realised I was so ignorant.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 13, 2021 9:55 am

Lizzie will be back.

I’m not being derogatory. She will be back. The exact same discussions were held the last time, and the time before.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 9:56 am

Cardiologist Who Said He ‘Won’t Cry at Funeral’ For “Selfish” Unvaccinated People Suddenly Dies in His Sleep 2 Weeks After 3rd Covid Jab

Sure, dead people can’t cry.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 13, 2021 9:56 am

Re the Bannon indictment Trump has been given an injunction by the appeals court.

Appeals court temporarily delays release of Trump’s Jan. 6 records (12 Nov)

Three lefty judges staying the previous lefty judge. It ought go to Scotus since it is unworkable for sitting Presidents to unilaterally withdraw executive privilege of previous Presidents, which is what Biden effectively did. However it pans out it is still the Democrats using the instruments of state to persecute the Republicans. I don’t see that stopping any time soon.

JMH
JMH
November 13, 2021 9:58 am

I’m not being derogatory. She will be back. The exact same discussions were held the last time, and the time before.

And on and on and on it goes.
When it will cease, nobody knows.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 13, 2021 9:58 am

Gasp! and take care of my ol hound dog.

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 9:59 am

Bear

Let’s keep the land, burn everything and start again. Block is great though .

Twostix
Twostix
November 13, 2021 10:00 am

Why did the Reds
fight? They wanted to beat the Whites and, on the foundation of this victory, to build a new, communist state.

Why did the Whites
fight? They wanted to beat the Reds. And then? And then – nothing, because it was obvious to everyone that the ancien régime was completely dismantled, and
there was no going back to the way things were before.

For the Reds, victory a
path forward; for the Whites, it was an end of the road, with nothing ahead.

A lot of people are much much happier now than in 2019: work from home, a much more flexible and relaxed society. If you want to win demanding we go back to how things were in 2019 will not work.

Rabz
November 13, 2021 10:00 am

Cardiologist Who Said He ‘Won’t Cry at Funeral’ For “Selfish” Unvaccinated People Suddenly Dies in His Sleep 2 Weeks After 3rd Covid Jab

Enjoy hell, knobhead!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 13, 2021 10:01 am

I don’t understand it.

The percentage of Thermomix ownership in this country has gone through the roof – and yet we still have covid.

We, as a people, are doing something wrong. There must be a talisman that will save us.

Twostix
Twostix
November 13, 2021 10:02 am

The four day work week is going to be the next carrot offered to people to cement in their support for the post revolution society.

Coopt it and cuck them.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 13, 2021 10:02 am
Eyrie
Eyrie
November 13, 2021 10:03 am

And Karma is a bitch.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 13, 2021 10:03 am

A lot of people are much much happier now than in 2019

100% accurate.

This is a massive win for the shut-ins, and people who otherwise cannot or will not operate in a normal society.

bespoke
bespoke
November 13, 2021 10:03 am

I was going to put a recommendation here that people start sticking up pharmacies because they are the softest of soft targets, half-inching all their high-end tranks and hillbilly heroin and making gazillions selling it to the nearest housos, who will pay for it by jacking ATMs at pokie venues in the middle of the night.

Profit margins for most pharmacies is very small and being mandated to serve housos is seen as a loss. A well trained second year pharmacy assistant has more understanding what meds work for the individual then most researchers.

Ellen of Tasmania
Ellen of Tasmania
November 13, 2021 10:03 am

EPISODE 241: SINS OF SCIENCE

Big Bird Gets Covid Shot; Aaron Rodgers Throws Covid Touchdown; Homeschooling 101; Disruption of our DNA & Other Sins of Science

Guests: Dana & Chelsea Broussard, Sam Sorbo

https://thehighwire.com/watch/

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 13, 2021 10:04 am

KD, I prefer my covid barbecued. Seared, pink in the centre and served with mustard sauce.

custard
custard
November 13, 2021 10:05 am

January 6 committee now demanding Meadows appear today, otherwise will charge him with contempt.

They are desperate.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 10:06 am

Let’s keep the land, burn everything and start again. Block is great though .

LOL

JC wants a brutalist 100 ft polycarbonate egg, oddly appointed with tasteful regency style furniture.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 10:07 am

Profit margins for most pharmacies is very small and being mandated to serve housos is seen as a loss. A well trained second year pharmacy assistant has more understanding what meds work for the individual then most researchers.

My friend left because she was sick of being threatened by addicts.

I knew another woman who was in witness protection.

True story!

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 13, 2021 10:10 am

PBO analysis of the Greens five-point tax crackdown suggests about $4.5bn could be clawed back under the new rules.

You can tell it is nearly election time. Time to start preaching to the choir. Lieborals and Liars next.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 13, 2021 10:10 am

My friend left because she was sick of being threatened by addicts.

‘Gis me fucking meff kunn!’

Indolent
Indolent
November 13, 2021 10:11 am

A lot of people are much much happier now than in 2019: work from home, a much more flexible and relaxed society. If you want to win demanding we go back to how things were in 2019 will not work.

All I want to demand is to be allowed to make my own decisions and not to be treated like a second class citizen. Oh, having to check in with Big Brother every other second can get to be a bit of a drag, too.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 13, 2021 10:12 am

If all you do after travelling to work is sit in front of a computer, work from home makes all the sense in the world.
Keeping the kids at home and doing Zoom lessons may have awakened some parents to the garbage their kids are being taught at school so it isn’t all bad.
My Danish friend, who does risk management for small and medium sized Euro banks reckons when they went to work from home their productivity noticeably increased. He also thinks the world is headed for high inflation and ultimately a huge market crash. I was talking to him via Skype yesterday evening.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 13, 2021 10:12 am

What does having a comment “flagged” mean?

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 13, 2021 10:16 am

My friend left because she was sick of being threatened by addicts.

Our, now retired, pharmacy friend got held up by three blokes, one with shotgun.
The cops caught one because he showed up at Emergency having gobbled a variety of stolen pills. Unfortunately the other two were not caught and the one they caught didn’t squeal. Somewhat surprising. I guess the current Qld cops aren’t like the old days under Joh.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 13, 2021 10:17 am

The killing heat of climate change has struck again – 11 degrees at the moment.
I had to go back to red wine last night.
We’re watching Bloodlines on Netflix.
The plot is like the Andrew’s government, every move they make turns to shit but they plough on regardless.
The screenwriters must have been Macbeth fans.

johanna
johanna
November 13, 2021 10:18 am

So-called ‘universities’ are a parody of what they were even a couple of generations ago:

Durham University in Durham, England, is reportedly offering its students online lessons on how to stay safe while working as a prostitute. The university also noted that there has been an “emerging trend” of its graduates going on to join the sex industry.

The course is being created by the Durham Students’ Union amid rising rates of Durham graduates taking up work as prostitutes or producing explicit content online, according to a report by GB News.

The lessons are reportedly designed to provide support and advice to staff and students who are getting involved in the sex industry.

The working girls I knew when I lived next to Kings Cross would be bemused by this. Despite the media myth that most prostitutes are really just doing it to pay for their education or saving up to buy a house or to establish a charity for abandoned animals, the reality is not so pleasant.

They were mostly broke, no family support, unskilled, and often dependent on alcohol or other drugs.

Apart from that, fancy paying thousands to send your daughter to university so that she can learn how to be a better sex worker. Begone, Latin and Greek and Rhetoric and Mathematics! This is the ideal new world we live in! 🙁

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 13, 2021 10:18 am

That comment about the CDC and the pregnancy article Rosie is a good point. There should be more out there. I have this problem now which most of us do, how do you find things out when the media and high tech bury stories. Govt. suppress data or present in a manner which distots findings. Getting raw data should always be foremost, but even that can be manipulated by changing criteria and not saying or just failing to report in the same timeframe as required. There is always some malevolent little turd willing to muck around when they see it is not how they thought it was going to turn out, already having made grand pronouncements as to the future. Also the so called whistleblowers if the stuation is true are hounded out. Whistleblowing is no easy task. Those in charge always cover their own arse first. Get the evidence first, make sure lots of people have access to the same evidence so you are not exposed, before it is made public. I really don’t know what to say as people have just latched onto anything they can to help themselves through the day. The only hope is as it appears, Glodule Worming is a real thing again.

Woolfe
Woolfe
November 13, 2021 10:19 am

Thanks Wolfman have subscribed to your Youtube and recommended your channel on Twitter!

I did not have a clue what was going on in Inception!

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
November 13, 2021 10:22 am

At breakfast: “Granny, what was the side of Mount St Helens that blew up on May 18, 1980… on a Sunday? But I’m not sure of the time. 8.34 am, I think.”

The north side. Saw it from the air on a flight from Vancouver to Los Angeles.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 10:23 am

Good article, Johanna.

Kids should check this out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Governors_University

Very good for IT. You can graduate as quickly as you can do the work.

Delta A
Delta A
November 13, 2021 10:25 am

Well done, rugbyskier.

That must have been quite a sight.

WolfmanOz (just existing in Melb. now)
WolfmanOz (just existing in Melb. now)
November 13, 2021 10:26 am

Thanks Woolf !

Inception is one of the few great movies of the 21st century IMHO.

The combination of action, complex multi-layered plotting and outright bewilderment makes for enjoyable repeated viewings.

I hope you enjoy my channel !

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 10:30 am

https://www.reddit.com/r/WGU/comments/gqr9y6/program_cost/

xan3z
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That all depends on you. If you extreme accelerate you can do it in 6 months it’ll cost $3.5k. A year will cost $7k. It depends solely on you and your knowledge of the subject, your studying habits, and your discipline to keep at it.

This is how unis should work. You should also be able to test your way to accrediation, as bad as exams are for pedagogy.

If you can walk in and pass a capstone unit exam, you’re gravy.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 10:31 am

YES! YES! YES!

From 1901-1993 the centrepiece of every party’s election campaign was a bold platform. Since 1993 they have mostly – cowardly – campaigned on a small target strategy. The Liberal Democrats understand the need for a big shift in politics. We bring you the 10 policies to create that shift and win back your freedom.

1. Freedom from covid alarmism
2. Recall elections
3. Debt and deficit
4. Low, flat taxes
5. Voluntary superannuation
6. Small business
7. Cheap energy
8. Decentralised education
9. Free speech
10. Freedom from surveillance

YES! YES! YES!

I’ll have what Dot is having!!!

cohenite
November 13, 2021 10:36 am

Worth repeating:

Matersays:
November 13, 2021 at 6:04 am
Ed Case says:
November 12, 2021 at 10:22 pm
Curtin was the Daniel Andrews of his day.

Like a broken clock, Ed eventually gets one right.

Mater says:
January 12, 2020 at 6:00 pm
On Curtin; do you think that he might be the only Australian Prime Minister to direct that Soviet Flags be flown on all Commonwealth buildings on Feb 23, for three years running (43-45), to celebrate “Red Army Day” – the anniversary of the founding of the Red Army?
Kinda thoughtful that he asked both State Governments and private businesses “to adopt a similar course”, don’t ya think?
FMD

Yes, it really happened.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/48785882

The left are all commies.

bespoke
bespoke
November 13, 2021 10:38 am

We haven’t got a shortage of IT grads we have glut of IT grads that think having a Cert puts them above running cables, cleaning servers or not knowing how to plug them in.

cohenite
November 13, 2021 10:40 am

They were mostly broke, no family support, unskilled, and often dependent on alcohol or other drugs.

Back in the day I did some LA work for local street-walkers (the brothel girls were not touched by the wallopers). And while it’s true most were on drugs, some liked it, some were lesbians who hated men and some were just lizard brains, cold as a dead fish. There were no Julie Roberts among them.

calli
calli
November 13, 2021 10:42 am

I think I understand Inception. Some of the visual effects are marvellous.

But I’ve probably got it all wrong. Maybe.

Which means the writers got it right.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 13, 2021 10:47 am

Great pic Dover. Never get sick of port scenes.

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