The federal Liars are copycatting the US Dems by wiping student debt, so it’s really about stopping the kiddies voting…
Open Thread – Weekend 13 Nov 2021
- The Radio Show May 2024 – The Fifties
- Open Thread – Weekend 4 May 2024
- Bumtree #5
- The beach which banned vanilla ice cream
- Bumtree #4
Geez ..! .. I’m starting to feel guilty for raising 4 kids as a single Dad in “houso” .. 4…
Has mUntard yet paid off his HECS debt (Economics 1 and J’ism)? Will he support this if he has?
@Maximus_4EVR Thank you for shedding some light on RFK Jr, @catturd2. There seems to be a lot of ignorance regarding…
It’s Sunday! https://ace.mu.nu/archives/4%2021%2024%20br0t.jpg
Carpe Jugulumsays:
November 13, 2021 at 4:19 pm
I bought clippers and combs on-line from the Shaver Shop
A friend of mine bought one that looks like a ball with a handpiece, does a perfect #3 crewcut
The combs give options on length. At present, I am working with 10mm back and sides, 25mm over the top, but having some issues with the transition.
callisays:
November 13, 2021 at 4:21 pm
You woosses with clippers! Dressmakers’ shears. Big ones.
They give an avant garde look second to none!
You van only be avant garde for a while, before you become garde. I skipped that stage! (Smiley face)
Doggy Dancing … This one’s for the Lad Cats 😉 and Border Terrier lovers … they really are a delightful breed … 🙂
Mickan & Rut – Freestyle Routine!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPGRz13dKAk
Jun 21, 2010
Mika Neiglick
Rut och jag övar inför U-DM i freestyle, vår första tävling någonsin! Det gick jättebra – vi vann!
In this video Rut and I practice before the U-DM in freestyle, our first contest ever! It went great – we won! 😀
Dover Beach:
Bloody ‘ell, DB.
Can’t you keep your kids in line?
I try not to offend anyone. I hope I offend everyone.
You must tackle onerous occupational licensing. Of course people should follow work, they are better off, more rounded human beings for it.
Although, what if they can’t work without $$$ thousands of bucks worth of nonsense qualifications?
The idea of being paid $10 an hour with free gym, pool, pay TV, wifi, public PC terminals, meals, accommodation…
Really, a lot of kids at uni should be doing uni during FIFO downtime and working in the mines during uptime etc.
They can come out as engineers in four years time with four years of work experience, 80k of savings, no costs (maybe a sensible HELP debt – or 40k in the bank and no debt) and a very useful degree.
What I am describing however as a cadetship would likely be called “Modern Day Slavery”.
All they’d need from high school and their job at KFC is some clothes, a mobile phone, some USB drives and a car they use a few times a year at home visiting mum and dad.
I probably just made several mining execs. laugh, vomit and poop.
What I am proposing is far more empowering form young women then endless rape fantasy mythologising.
21, electromechanical engineer, no debt, car, mobile, 40k in the bank, four years of work experience. That is a very employable person. Add in IT & “additive manufacturing” and they have a job for life in the 21st century.
It would be great for all of our young adults. They’d be set up for success, but it is viewed as slavery.
So, it isn’t just occupational licensing. Its a matter of labour market rules too.
Dot…
The LDP is not the first Party that DL has been involved in, just the first one in which he has been high enough up the totem pole to ensure that the policy was to his liking.
…and it was not his adherence to LDP policy that I was criticising , but his lack of adherence to basic Libertarian principle.
The pity is that he could have been a force for good in this country, but he tended to treat those who didn’t quite agree with him as idiots or enemies, instead of allies against the forces of darkness.
I was willing to hear him out, but he alienated a number of pro-liberty Conservatives, like me, in that manner.
I listened to him give an extended interview on gun-control. He had an excellent opportunity to explain the philosophical foundations of liberty, the benefits to society and the massive array of evidence that gun-control Does. Not. Work. He failed to offer a convincing argument for any of these things.
What a waste of an opportunity.
Here’s the question. Are you willing to offer convincing arguments as one reasonable person to another, or are you going to keep trying to burn the heretic at the stake?
That, and what follows, is pretty sound… at least for a lot of kids.
Point…
But for post-modernists, lying is not wrong.
For post-mosernists,wrong is not wrong, unless they dislike it.
That’s why Sarah Hanson Young railroaded him. The thugs on the left can’t have us winning arguments.”
David L was someone I liked and was someone I thought added value to the senate (I voted for him in 2013 and 2016)…..made the serious mistake of repeating on the Sky programme Outsiders what he said in parliament. I clearly remember watching Outsiders that Sunday morning and I knew, from the moment when David L repeated what he said about Hanson-Dung, that serious legal trouble would ensue and it did.
So many good little Germans on Twitter.
They fully support the removal of your legal rights and detention by the dictate of a bureaucrat.
Freedom to them is obeying the master.
Like a dog tied up that long they won’t stray outside the chain length even when untied. Pitiful pets.
If the end of the Population Ponzi makes Dr Tom and every other one unemployed it won’t be a bad result.
TFM:
What Council/area was that?
“…also the caldera sitting below Yellowstone which some think is overdue for eruption.”
Bloody hell – if that bastard goes off big time, the entire North American continent would be an uninhabitable wasteland. Not that anyone would care – the rest of the world wouldn’t fare much better. Have you looked at a map and seen how big it is? It’s the entire Yellowstone National Park – give or take a bit!
The Corporate Press are Still Awful
[Corporate Media Attack The Judge]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hILprNBA7I
Nov 13, 2021
The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters
The Yellowstone caldera. One of those strange ironies. The most beautiful and free state in the Union also sits atop a lightly slumbering dragon.
I love Wyoming. I’d go back in a heartbeat.
Channel 10 News at 5 reported ‘more than 10,000’ at the Rally.
so together it represents the House of Israel and the House of Judah together, both under the Southern Cross.
A million greenie heads just popped reading that…
Troll factor: Over 1000
What Council/area was that?
Denham WA
That was their acne, mole.
No one cares.
???
…and everyone else who turned up to the party meetings as I did from 2003 – 2007.
Get out of here with this rot.
Name libertarian members of Parliament in Australia.
I can name about five (exactly) and one bloke who was a (deputy?) mayor. They were all in the LDP and party meetings weren’t full of people crying about how they were not sticking the libertarian principles.
I dispute that because I did some research for him debunking those stupid Chapman papers on gun control. I saw what he wrote armed with that knowledge and I heard him use that on interviews on TV. I did good research but I was impressed what he did with it. If you are trying to bullshit someone, don’t piss on their face and tell them it is raining.
Guess what. Sometimes people blow TV interviews. It happens. Usually DL was pretty good. He was confident, which some spineless losers claim was dreadful “arrogance”.
Anyway, good luck talking about Locke or Mill when talking to idiots like Ray Hadley. See how far you get this week. Try calling in whilst he’s not demanding a new COVIDian reich.
Your arguments are completely lacking in evidence and are just unfounded opinion. Great, why don’t we ask Adam Bandt what he thinks of Dave as well?
The Return of BLM
[Racial Socialists Threaten Riots Again]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di4VCUTRx5E
Nov 13, 2021
The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters
LOL.
They are good people and despite any differences I have with them we can only cheer them on for having working brains, hearts and dedication to liberal & conservative values their colleagues have forgotten to chase a window of marginal votes held hostage by fear porn.
Nice volley there, Dot. I’m proud of you.
What China is Doing to Kill Us All
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yV3Uj8qbCU
Nov 13, 2021
serpentza
I was at a careers day with some students and in the tea room overheard reps from a few group employers. They agreed that if you asked tradies willing to take on an apprentice, the perfect apprentice is 15yo(so their head isn’t filled with crap), has worked at Macca’s for a year(Macca’s not any other chain! as it teaches discipline) and has an open car licence.
Yes, many more than.
This from the Oz…..
“Gallows brought to protest, Dan forced to leave
Liberal defector Craig Kelly has fired up a large protest crowd in Melbourne, as Daniel Andrews is forced to cancel press conference amid ‘hostile’ action. “
Note the hyper beat up.
The MSM = SCUM.
“They are good people and despite any differences I have with them we can only cheer them on for having working brains, hearts and dedication to liberal & conservative values their colleagues have forgotten to chase a window of marginal votes held hostage by fear porn.”
Perfectly said and 100% agree Dot.
China in Focus – NTD
00:02 Is China gearing up for war?
15:33 Top official: U.S. is resident power in Asia
16:46 U.S. adm. reaffirms commitment to Japan
17:48 China may soon launch 3rd aircraft carrier: study
18:55 China’s communist leader hailed as ‘helmsman’
20:03 Mass taxi-driver strikes in China
21:37 Tiananmen sq. artist seeks HK security law exemption
So just over half the number of 1st preferences that can get you elected to the WA Upper House?
…and it was not his adherence to LDP policy that I was criticising , but his lack of adherence to basic Libertarian principle.
We’ve probably stoushed for too long today.
If you think you can do a better job, nominate and run for office, I mean that sincerely and with utmost goodwill.
There is a very good argument for a more libertarian party than the LDP, or an independent libertarian who is very hardcore.
If Ayn Rand was in Congress for even one term, she would have had a massive platform. Funnily enough, she despised the US LP from the beginning.
So no government at all Winston?
Flying Pigs:
The aluminium mines in the creek beds, FP.
You can see them from space, they are that rich.
Not a lot of opportunity to get rich through reasoning there. Best left to spinifex aficionados.
Testing …
Kneelsays:
November 13, 2021 at 4:58 pm
“…also the caldera sitting below Yellowstone which some think is overdue for eruption.”
Bloody hell – if that bastard goes off big time, the entire North American continent would be an uninhabitable wasteland. Not that anyone would care – the rest of the world wouldn’t fare much better. Have you looked at a map and seen how big it is? It’s the entire Yellowstone National Park – give or take a bit!
I read two novels in a series on that possibility a few years ago, can’t remember the titles. I think at least one more was out or planned. Scary stuff.
“mh says:
November 12, 2021 at 10:43 pm
Sieg Heil!
‘Austria province to place millions of unvaccinated people in Covid lockdown
Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg says: ‘I don’t see why two-thirds should lose their freedom because one-third is dithering’”
“mh says:
November 12, 2021 at 11:38 pm
Craig Kelly MP
@CraigKellyMP
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25m
And Alex makes 6.
We now have 2 Federal MP’s & 4 Senators opposing?Mandates.
Myself & George Christensen – Senator Gerard Renick, Senator Pauline Hanson, Senator Malcolm Roberts & now Senator Alex Antic.
History is watching.
Who will be the 7th ?”
Is this thing on, I asks ya?
Yo! 🙂
Diogenes
the perfect apprentice is 15yo(so their head isn’t filled with crap), has worked at Macca’s for a year(Macca’s not any other chain! as it teaches discipline) and has an open car licence.
Did you gently remind them of the age minimum for a driving licence?
Nice piece in the Washington Examiner.
What the hell – let’s have a song!
Dot, I don’t doubt your sincerity….
But a man has to know his limitations, and I’m a tactless bastard at times. Nor can I remain calm in the presence of that much bullshit. I can, and do, hand out flyers for a pro-Liberty party outside polling booths, and pay my membership. About as much as a semi-recluse farmer can do while keeping his sanity.
Perhaps its a weakness that the forces of darkness are philosophically happy to sublimate their personal desires for THE Party, while we end up splintered into as many parties as there are ideas on this side of politics. I’m not sure what the answer is, but I’m damned sure that it doesn’t lie in feuding amongst ourselves.
Very well done that man! Pity the pathetically piss poor Victorian LNP senators have pea sized hearts and even smaller brains.
Me too, if the USA was, in fact – the USA. As we know, the USA of old no longer exists.
PeterW
I agree, we should have less senators like David Lyonhelm and more like Jacqui Lambie and that other (Queensland) grifter – the former fish&chip shop owner.
Vaccine Disinformation Is Deadly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH4b520Sl_I
Nov 13, 2021
Tony Heller
It is very clear that disinformation about vaccines is killing people.
VB, 4X or Swan?
“Very well done that man! Pity the pathetically piss poor Victorian LNP senators have pea sized hearts and even smaller brains.”
Don’t forget the utterly useless scumbag NSW LNP senators……..Andrew Bragg, Holly Hughes and the all talk and no action man…..Jim Molan.
Yes it does. Don’t be a drama queen, JMH. You’re such a drama queen.
“Rabz – Perfesser of Deceased Parrotology”
Love it Rabzy!
H B Bearsays:
November 13, 2021 at 5:24 pm
The total votes cast was about 35….
Not a lot of opportunity to get rich through reasoning there.
The future Principality of upper Hutt is disappointed in your negativity.
The dolphin/whale harvesting operations alone would be extraordinary in the publicity they would generate.
Wekk, I wouldn’t be relying on Canavan!
Catholic — News Report — Priest Sexting Sting Exposes Network
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwED7zmruHg
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Church Militant
That’s indisputable.
Two of those Three possess the ability to “cut-through” with the media & would have done not only a far better job of leading the opposition in Victoria, but would have Dan Xiaoping from some of his more over-the-top authoritarianism, or at least held him to account for the consequences of his decisions.
Errata: Wekk = well – as if you didn’t know!
Seriously.
The “gallows” was a couple of sticks (or maybe a bit of bent reo) with three very inexpertly tied garden string “nooses”. Just as well they didn’t display a “ditch the dan” sign.
He must be an hysterical coward.
10 consecutive explosions in 1 week! A sign of fierce infighting before the CCP’s Party Congress?
Fuck off driller, you laughable clown. What you’ve said is exactly what a know nothing imbecile would say. Go repair some fences you boundary rider you.
Impaired Immune Response in Obesity (leptin) + Herd Immunity: USA May Have a Problem
Scientists find lean subjects made protective antibodies after infection while obese subjects did not make protective antibodies—they made maladaptive autoantibodies instead. Researchers speculate that leptin plays a role in skewing the immune response toward autoimmunity after infection.
Next time guys, bring a couple of stringers and a few treads. Do a carpentry demmo in front of Vic Parliament .
Then invite Dan down to try them out.
For those expecting a sudden shift in inflation, I suggest you take a look at this chart, which is the US 10 year long bond.
To some extent it also matches inflation expectations. The yield began to rise from about 1960 on and reached a top ( in yield) in early 1980’s. It then took 40 years to reach the lows we’ve seen. This stuff takes a small ocean of time to work its way into the system.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/IRLTLT01USM156N
Catholic — News Report — Hope on the Horizon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWJ8Smo1mDg
Premiered 12 hours ago
Church Militant
Unfortunately. It is one of the great lands on this planet. That epic ’93 trip remains fond in my mind.
36 states, 13,000 miles. 13 Weeks. The (ex FBI) ’78 Ford Fairmount being sold for half of what we paid for it (in LA) in Hollyweird at the end of the trip.
Venice Beach
Vegas
The Canyon
Monument Valley
Arizona
Texas (including an overnight stop in a location known as Ozona)
Austin
Dallas
Houston
The deep South
Florida
Key West
Noo Awlins (for the Jazz Fest)
The Smoky mountains
Washington DC
Noo Joisey
Noo Yoik
Londoni (for 11 days)
Noo Yoik
Canada (for seven days)
Niagara Falls
The upper mid west
The mound from “Close Encounters”
The Bear Tooth Highway (four seasons in one day)
Washington state
Oregon
California (Redwoods and the Pacific Hwy)
Hollyweird (Banana Bungalow)
Then back to Oz and an erstwhile goilfriend. 🙂
Umm
Lambie has a fetish for Branch COVIDian authoritarianism.
Dot..
Getting further back up the list…
You are trying to tell me what I heard and how I reacted. You’ve done that more than once, and it’s not decent debating. In fact if there is any argument that completely lacks evidence, it’s that kind of claim from you. Seriously, man!
No… You can’t claim that DL didn’t switch Parties and then claim that “nobody is interested” when it’s shown otherwise. (Yes, he was involved in TSP back in the day, and one of the majors before that) I’m fine with a man changing his opinions, but his actions do say something about his character, and we are entitled to look at that.
Me personally? I consider myself “Conservative”, maybe because I’ve run into a few too many “Libertarians” who want to deny us any ability to work together, even when it is beneficial. Maybe because I want to preserve what works, rather than throwing out the baby with the bathwater. If you want to convince me otherwise, I’m open, but there it is.
The same goes for gesture-politics. Putting up Bills that no-one votes for but yourself doesn’t – to my mind – achieve much. If you believe in rule “by the people”, then you accept a responsibility to persuade people to agree with you.
Yeah, I know I’m going on a bit, but it’s necessary if we are going to debate like adults who are open to improving our understanding. Can you understand that I want to see pro-liberty parties doing well? Neither of us can do that if we simply take the attitude that critics are simply arseholes and we got it all perfectly right the first time?
LOL. Only place on Earth that aluminium can be mined as a metal not an oxide…
(I spent a few months working at Warrego once, wild place. No 0.02 site limits back then.)
The only place Lambie the Bush Pig has “cut-through” is in northern Tasmania….yet the whole of Australia is lumbered with her. Oh and remember that the reason why the country is lumbered with Lambie the Bush Pig is thanks to that fat bastard….Clive Palmer, who behaved despicably from 2013 through to 2016.
Some of those are just left wingers disguised as libertarians. The famous example would be Bill Maher, a total leftwing arsehole who self describes as a libertarian until a real libertarian whacked the douche-bag over the head and called the bullshit.
I wouldn’t vote for them, either.
Any reason why I should?
“Umm
Lambie has a fetish for Branch COVIDian authoritarianism.”
Correct….and whilst I know and understand that not everybody likes Pauline…she at least has stood up for free speech, she and Malcolm Roberts were the only two senators to vote against the outrageous senate censure of Bettina Arndt. Lambie the Bush Pig voted for it. Lambie is actually a disgrace.
It’s broken. Throw it out.
We need a bill of rights and to destroy the four main political parties.
Dicey was wrong. Parliament would destroy our rights and the common law didn’t protect us.
Because we don’t rely on MSM accuracy, it would be good to know the crowd estimate at the Melbourne march today.
Kneelsays:
November 13, 2021 at 4:58 pm
Yellowstone is under an active mantle plume, a hot spot. Western Victoria was until recently under a similar hotspot. However the eruptions when they have happened at Yellowstone have been huge. It is estimated when it goes the economic fallout will be substantial hence the USGS ongoing detailed attention.
Different to Mt St Helens and the other volcanics in NE US which are in a subduction zone where friction from tectonic plates are the drivers of geological activity and much more violent volcanism.
Yes. Makes it difficult to contemplate UAP as an alternative at the next federal election.
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The Lambie hails from a state (if it could be dignified with such a term) where 50% of the populace is illiterate.
And the other half enthusiastically vote for her.
An imbecile voting in the Australian senate in taxmania has a vote that is worth over eight times my senate vote in NSW.
So much for one vote, one value – and no I don’t give a rodent’s about the reasoning that established such idiocy in the first place.
States’ rights are wonderful, until they aren’t. Just ask Hawkie – oh wait – you can’t, because he’s dead.
Possible…
When we are talking about the “open borders” crowd… it starts to smell like a Trojan Horse.
…what have the ruling Liberals done in NSW and the Commonwealth since late 2019?!
To be fair I should take some of that criticism back about Lambie and the Queenslander. I bet they wouldn’t be as brazen as the mincing poodle (Pyne) who spent $90 billion of Australian taxpayer money to save his seat. I’m walking it back ever so slightly.
Saw one of those at Costco on Thursday and thought it a good present for my domed offspring but the prices was over $230 so had to pass on it — looked terrific though especially the rugged fellow on the carton.
Listen up. You might not scroll back. I said on this forum today it was preferable to close the borders last year than give up our civil liberties.
Don’t be a mendacious prick like this and then whine and moan about how you felt years ago.
Just stop. No more whining.
“Yellowstone is under an active mantle plume, a hot spot.”
My understanding is that if Yellowstone erupts, then it would have serious consequences for life on the planet and would be worse, far worse, than the Toba eruption over 70,000 years ago.
And he now has a show on Sky, yukking it up, along with that bloviating chips ‘n’ gravy imbecile, Morgan.
The MudTel subscription is toast. (finally) 🙁
good to know the crowd estimate
Social media was reporting the crowd stretched from Spring to Elizabeth streets, with quite a few so far away they couldn’t hear the speakers. You’d have to figure 20,000.
Next weekend double it.
Delta Asays:
November 13, 2021 at 6:14 pm
Clive Palmer, who behaved despicably from 2013 through to 2016.
Yes. Makes it difficult to contemplate UAP as an alternative at the next federal election.
Is Clive, in political terms, better or worse than the Machinations of the likes of Photios?
The political system that “works” when the voters are broken, is a myth. How the hell do you expect to convince the voters to support the kind of BOR that you want?
The horse has a broken leg and you are talking about putting new wheels on the cart.
“Is Clive, in political terms, better or worse than the Machinations of the likes of Photios?”
Err….no.
Senator Rennick has joined Craig Kelly to object vax apartheid. If you need more reason to vote for him (wiki):
In SA, Senator Alex Antic has also joined the bloc, making six who will withhold support from the Libs if they pursue Vax mandate.
We need to be informed to know how to vote as effectively as possible.
Oh dear….
Talking about “mendacity”, what do you call your pretence that I was was talking about you?
Are you really so ego-driven that you think that you are the only “Libertarian” that I’ve ever talked to? Or are you trying to play the victim because you don’t have a decent response?
Okay champ, show us the way. What do you propose? If it is nothing, or vote for the Liberals, you can FOAD.
Dickhead, you tried to make out I was representative of the LDP before. Maybe you should check what you wrote beforehand before you ramp up the trolling for the LNP?
There are very few candidates that I find worth voting for.
No… I’m not voting UAP, or Liberal, or National, or most of the weirder Independents or Microparties.
Nothing to base this on but Rukshan’s visuals – I would have thought more than that.
Last week’s march was estimated at over 20,000.
I acknowledge your point BJ.
It was a serious question, although I had already formulated the answer.
Go Cloive!
JCsays:
November 13, 2021 at 5:54 pm
Erudite & intelligent, as usual.
Class act. Intelligent.
20,000 less than gruntled Melbournians?
Dunderhead Dan will laugh it off as a tiny percentage – and he would be correct.
Nothing less than the long overdue administration of HOP Time will suffice.
We know this – and it is ugly having to acknowledge that we have no other option.
Oh – and if you’re feeling squeamish, do you really want to spend the rest of your time on this planet existing like this? Do you want your kiddies to be condemned to this? Existing under the most preposterous dicktator in human history?
The Victorians I’ve known in my life (and yes, I used to love going to Melbourne) were sound, civilised and funny characters.
What the hell happened?
Hopefully, nothing.
The alternative is the Labor Party.
They will do something
Such as: Blow up perfectly functioning Power Houses
Shut down the Beef Live Export Industry Overnight
Shut down the Sheep Live Export Industry overnight
In the Whitlam days:
Shut down the Clothing, Textiles, Footwear, Pottery industries overnight
In the Hawke Era:
Sack all the pilots, close down the airline Industry and the Tourist Industry overnight
In the Rudd Era:
Shut down the Home Insulation Industry Overnight.
There’s plenty more.
Sick of having a job?
Solution: Vote Labor!
It starts by actually listening to people, instead of defaulting to treating them like idiots or enemies.
Produce a convincing argument and persuade them that your proposal aligns with their values and is to their benefit.
That is not “nothing” and not “voting for the Liberals”… you seem to be doing what you are falsely accusing me of doing – putting words in my mouth.
I did NOT accuse you of being part of the Open Borders mob. The Libertarians (?) that I had in mind when I made that statement, were American…. and if you’d paid attention, I was responding to a comment by JC about a person who is not – to my knowledge) connected with you?
Does that make you happy, or are you really cranky that I’m not the idiot you’d like me to be?
Good to see Foghorn Leghorn, the New York Tough Guy, back on the net. I wonder what erudite pearls he has for us, on this thread?
The Australian grows more like the mindless Age with every passing day. This crap, for example:
An Aboriginal approach could help Australian children emerge from the global pandemic, according to an Indigenous child psychiatrist who has become a world authority on childhood trauma.
The story is accompanied by a snap of the ‘indigenous’ shrink. No discernible touch of the tar brush whatsoever
Cassie of Sydneysays:
November 13, 2021 at 6:06 pm
I’ll disagree.
(Cut-through is not the same as “broad electoral appeal”)
She has cut-through. Her message usually gets out.
I’ll tender as evidence: We all know who she is.
Except for OTT political junkies among us, very few could name the bottom couple of senators in most states.
We’d have even less idea what their core beliefs are.
When Our Jackie says something – no matter how stupid – she manages to get that message nationwide loud & clear, and has everybody talking about it.
Now & again she’s correct (on a stopped clock basis perhaps)
A few minor party senators, with few inhibitions, are needed now & then, as they’ll say the things the things that need saying, but the major party suckholes won’t say.
Last week, my crowd-calculating skills were shown here to be sadly lacking. So I won’t put a number on it. But I can assure you that this protest was bigger, by a fair bit. The biggest so far. I’d say, take your favourite number from last week and add maybe 20-30%.
Rabz, I think seething Victorians may be becoming a little more unquieter. If the Dictator’s ‘Pandemic’ crap is passed next week, stand back and expect something.
PeterW, so you are voting liars party?
I reckon the Kyle Rittenhouse case is a pivot point for the US. The left have been whittling away for 5 years beginning when Trump won, lying and subverting the institutions and brazenly attacking the non-left. This has to be the line in the sand, the straw that breaks the camel’s back, regardless of which way it goes. It Kyle is acquitted that shows the non-left they can still defend themselves against the blm, antifa, riot scum. If he loses that shows the system is broken and they can go for broke because no fairness is left.
“When Our Jackie says something – no matter how stupid – she manages to get that message nationwide loud & clear, and has everybody talking about it.”
Umm…she’s most definitely not “our” and most people look askance at her. She’s an embarrassment. She’s done nothing of any consequence in parliament (unlike Hanson, like her or loathe her).
From on-the-spot video footage, I would have reckoned at least 60,000. Possibly more. We can’t trust the Police nor MSM to tell the truth, so we just have to guesstimate!
“A few minor party senators, with few inhibitions, are needed now & then, as they’ll say the things the things that need saying, but the major party suckholes won’t say.”
Lambie the Bush Pig has never said anything that needed saying.
@Rabz:
“The Victorians I’ve known in my life (and yes, I used to love going to Melbourne) were sound, civilised and funny characters.
What the hell happened?”
They were “assimilated”; became the “Borg”.
Anyone got a more likely explanation?
I asked you how to get our civil liberties back vis a vis a bill of rights, then you rambled on about how I blamed the voters (I didn’t) and we should listen to people…
What a load of piffle.
If we’re doing it wrong, please tell us how to do it right.
Put up or shut up!
Resoundingly so, to all of that.
Those qualities (negative though they be) in no way prevent her from having “cut-through”.
Hoo boy.
Been black as a dog’s arse on one side of the sky for a couple of hours, with the sea breeze pushing the storm back. Now the wind’s changed and it’s starting to move over the town.
Blowing up nicely. All windows open. Dropped ten degrees in fifteen minutes, with a LOT of snap and crackle going on.
Fucking finally.
Not for me. For one, I have the highest regard for Craig Kelly who seems to be lifting a mountain by himself. But beyond that, whatever Palmer’s personal attributes he’s our only hope of bringing about a major shakeup of the status quo, which is what is needed most. A good old fashioned clean out.
Seems like it, doesn’t it?
She said of those of “our boys” who went to fight with Isis: “The sooner they’re knocked off, the better off we’ll all be”
Try as I might, I’m unable to find an angle on that with which to disagree.
Melbourne in the early 2000s was a figurative chocolate box. So much so that I would happily spend 10 hours driving in a day to get down there.
Now, not so much. 🙁
Three cheers for underground power!
Oh. Apologies.
Up Twinkles for underground power!
Crowd size calculation from aerial shot:
Roads 25 metres wide. Crowd extended at least 100 metres down each of three ways from parliament intersection.
25 x 300 = 7500 m2.
At a density of 3 per m3 = 22,500 persons.
At a density of 4 per m2 = 30,000 persons.
At a density of 5 per m2 = 37,500 persons.
At 6 per m2 = 45,000
Yes.
I haven’t seen a comprehensive overhead video, and I tend to guess conservatively regardless. The MCG standard is what I try to use. Still, the hypothetical MCG is filling up. You could easily be right with your estimate. Last week I left when the crowd grew too big to be safe in, and it was a short trip out. Today, same thing, but much harder to get out. Much. And Bourke Street was rammed solid as far as I could see.
There is still hope.
Driller, I’ve noticed The Rones using the word, “Erudite” several times. He’s nothing if not repetitive. You got the word from him, obviously.
Up Twinkies for some good ol’ Soul! 🙂
Well that includes a lot of options, but I can safely say that I will not be voting Liberal, Labor, National or – if Dot is any example – LDP.
Didn’t need to. They were describing a unicorn and they knew it. The bitch was that without a driver’s licence an apprentice is not worth much, can’t be sent to Bunnings while the tradie continues the job
Here ya go, Cassie.
Yellowstone exploding.
I suspect the real thing will be slightly…bigger.
Develop a “Reasonable use of force in defence of self, family and property” policy. Leave the definition of “reasonable” open.
I think we’ve all had enough of fucking reasonable. Every single document that should have protected Australian Freedom and Liberty didn’t because of fucking “reasonable”.
A slight breeze of 70kph.
Hasn’t even hit yet. You can smell the heat seeping out of wet concrete and brickwork.
This retort is so lame it would stand-in for counting sheep.
It would seem that Low-energy Jeb still controls the account.
Perhaps it’s time for your nap.
The population of Melbourne, according to the ABS in 2016: 4,485,211
Today’s demo attracted just over 1% of Melbournians, or even less, given that population stat is five years’ old.
The BEM is laughing at youse, laughing – incessantly.
Not quite.
A few years ago, she said she likes dick.
Cue predictable uproar.
Try to find a Liberal or National, let alone a Labor woman who will say that.
Anyway, here’s six minutes of Norm McDonald:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0d6oH5Lumc
Oh yes, you were totally sincere before. You haven’t suggested anything constructive. Bugger off you waste of space.
You’re really not good at this, are you Dickhead. How’s uncle Ned? 🙂
The usual political arithmetic is to multiply by ten the number of critics who actually make a statement to get an estimate of the disgruntled.
According to the political genius from FNQ she cuts through. She’s a cut “througher”. 🙂
Lol. I don’t need to be good at this to kick your low-energy arse.
Nap time for you. Go………!
Dot… It is comments like that which make me doubt your integrity.
…..and this.
I have said very clearly and explicitly that you CANNOT get our Civil Liberties back without convincing the majority of voters that it is required.
Firstly because it needs to be passed by referendum, because anything passed by Parliament can be amended by Parliament.
Secondly, because unless Politicians who ignore a BOR are punished for it at the ballot box, they have no reason to follow it.
It’s been bucketing down here for the last half hour. No sign of it letting up anytime soon.
Biggest problem is convincing 60kg of Bull Arab cross that he is not a lap dog!
Greg Hunt interview according to him novavax haven’t filed in Australia yet.
Poor Dottie….. 😀
That’s what you ought to be doing.. with zero clientele. Zero.
I don’t get it, Drills. Admittedly it was a while ago and you were complaining about lack of staff. But all you do is hang around here looking to stoush troll. Hospitality is nowhere near filling up the jobs surplus, but you appear to have lots of time. What gives?
???
Oh woe are we, we have to contest elections that we may lose!
Please leave this pettifogging nonsense elsewhere.
Doubt my integrity all you like, you are here spreading FUD like a crop sprayer.
rickwsays:
November 13, 2021 at 6:56 pm
+200
Hear hear!
Driller
It’s early Saturday night and you’re here trying to stoush with me. Explain to the interested readership what the hell is going on with you?
Am I the only person in the country who hasn’t seen a storm cloud?
There’s not a hint of rain on the horizon, & hasn’t been for weeks.
JC I notice you are still an arsehole on this site.
Wanna come hunting bananas with me?
Which means the pub ought to be teeming with people and yet here you are telling us you haven’t seen a rain cloud.
Ted, I know, it’s huge failing on my part.
Runner, you omitted the “Welcome to Country” on your posted comment.
It goes something like:
“Always was, always will be”
That’s very very hurtful Drills.
But what’s going on at the pub. Tell us.
Explain the methodology used in making that determination.
Wtf has that has to do with the price of fish in Japan?
Are you feeling well? Is the 3rd/4th jab affecting you?
Driller
I swear, I don’t get any satisfaction from hearing about other people’s slides. There’s no fun in that. What’s going on?
Good body language analysis of Rittenhouse. The prosecution guy is a dog, bending and breaking every rule; and while the Judge and defence lawyers can see through his scum tactics I’m not sure a jury can. Especially interesting is the scumbag’s attempt to get propensity evidence in, which is like Australia’s similar fact evidence:
https://bombardsbodylanguage.com/2021/11/12/body-language-kyle-rittenhouse-trial/?fbclid=IwAR2xnY1Hzzkbg13dGcJSkKLFapQFIegIVw4f11yFLfuYpeERhHcz8wwFMbw
Saturday evening should be a busy night. You’re short of staff ostensibly and yet you’re here, telling me I’m a “rudite” or some crap . 🙂 What happened?
If you’re short of staff, you would be helping, no?
Back to Life.
Back to reality 🙂
Drills
X my heart and promise not to make any hay out of this. What’s going on with the pub. Tell us.
Why should it be?
Where should I step in to “help”?
What difference is one person going to make anyway?
After which, who is going to perform my usual tasks?
As Mater witnessed – crammed in like sardines – or words to that effect.
Next week could be a doozy if that repugnant ‘Pandemic Bill” is passed this week!
Drills
Let me say this. One time, I complained about blood thinning drugs that I take and your response was very compassionate. I really appreciated that. If you’re having problems with the pub, I offer the same feelings back. Honestly, I hope you’ve been going well.
“And which was never conceded” (as I heard this week in a stupid work meeting) signalling even more guilt trip bullshit.
The “welcome to country” is compelled speech.
Just f*ck off, you sanctimonious white middle class middle aged hypocrites.
Back to stoushing and being an arsehole. Where’s the Rones? ( But who is Rones or Ronery? I don’t know.)
“The prosecution guy is a dog, bending and breaking every rule”
No…an insult to our canine friends who are loyal and decent. The prosecution guy is no doubt a Demonrat
JC – enough. Sal’s not worth your venom.
Here’s a Goose Springsteen song for your edification … 🙂
“We live way out in the Hills”
Where in NJ is that, Squire?
I think the jury is going to try to fuck over the kid.
You could mount an almost theological argument as to whether a nomadic, hunter gatherer culture ever understood the concept of “sovereignty” in the first place.
Night shift has clocked on early I see.
Oh God.
Some trollop jumped in front of Rukshan at today’s march with a sign saying exactly that.
Just as well I was on my own and nobody heard what I uttered!
They would have understood tribal territories and rough boundaries, you complete imbecile. Not all of the tribes were nomadic. STFU and get back under your racist rock.
srr:
The fishing fleets are just another example of the Chinese habit of taking everything that’s not nailed down, then screaming racist when people object.
I’m surprised some of these nations having their fish stocks plundered haven’t taken direct action.
A lot of the vessels shown in the clip would go under quite quickly from even a 50mm HE shell.
Anyone want to start a Pirates-R-Us Franchise?
NADT – 🙂
We knocked the rear wall out of the cash office, & expanded the room threefold, as part of a longstanding plan to redevelop my private suite of offices.
We stalled at that this afternoon, while I tick over in my mind for a few days where I want more shelves, some chicane-walls, and where I want to reposition the safe.
I know how much architechtural type stuff interests you.
Perhaps you could help, how many sofas should I put into my private office? Should they all be able to see the TV, or is being within easy reach of the phone more important?
On the bright side, they’re only 24% points from being a catalyst for major social change according to the generally accepted politicial scientific rubric on such things. That’s not too many disaffected Labor, Liberal & non-committed voters to win over, especially if lockdowns & vaccine & mask mandates continue sporadically and indefinitely, as has been flagged. The mainstream political parties can’t even manage that percentage in memberships, let aone get them out on to the streets. The emperor has no clothes.
Channel 7 said one thousand when anyone could see it was far more than that. They are completely arrogant now as if saying “So what are you going to do about it?”
All we can do is not watch them.
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You should never have sofas in an office. Two of these would be fine. And the TV should only be seen from the office desk and chair.
Yeah grate, Rog. Tell it to us in (just over) 12 months’ time. 🙁
Anschluss yet again.
Quite correct. They lived in villages of up to a thousand people, grew crops, and domesticated animals.
Rabzsays:
November 13, 2021 at 7:30 pm
Rabz: His “venom” is over-rated.
Let him keep knocking his head against a wall. It’s hardly goin to worry me. 😉
Actually, they did live in village type arrangements right up north near on and around the Gulf, you pathetic clown.
Rones, stop pretending you have an IQ higher than 72 as it’s offensive to the the rest of us here. You left high school in 8th grade.
I regret voting for Jim Molan as he has not kept faith with his voters. I know he has been ill but did he need to sell out?
And even nomadic people have rough boundaries that don’t impinge on other tribes and groups.
This is actually great news.
Someone posted it before.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10193793/Liberal-senator-Alex-Antic-revolts-vaccine-mandates.html
Scott Morrison reeling after SECOND Liberal senator threatens to pull support for Government legislation in protest over state vaccine mandates
Last week Queensland senator Gerard Rennick said he’d abstain from voting
SA senator Alex Antic, also against jab mandates, intends to follow Rennick
Pauline Hanson’s One Nation has vowed to vote against all Government bills
The rebellion leaves Scott Morrison effectively unable to pass any laws
Unfortunately the election will be in May (most likely) and cannot be held any later.
Why not?
I’m not all that keen at sleeping on the floor.
Quite correct. They lived in villages of up to a thousand people, grew crops, and domesticated animals.
And had a space program.
Sal – enuff.
It’s a Saturday night. We need to be enjoying ourselves (for a change) – JC loves Goose Springsteen tunes even (slightly) more than he loves neo-brutalism.
The more of those tunes that get played, the less he’s prone to regrettable outbursts, thus saving his energy to admire many hideous white brutalist ovoid boxes inexcusably (and inexplicably) transplanted into environments that were least suited to them. 🙂
Looks far too casual, drills. You’re all business in the office.
Have armchairs like those I chose and you can even pretend you’re like me.
The future of Victoria is in the hands of Victorians.
That being said, to cite an historical analogy, the White Russian cause post-1917 may have been doomed, but at least they were willing to fight for it.
I’d rather cast my lot with that type than submit meekly to tyranny.
Huge crowd at today’s melbournistan protest:
https://www.facebook.com/TOTTNews/videos/895214464460928
Someone posted a fantastic comment about the phenomenon above. The whites V the reds.
Twostix, if I’m not incorrect?
To cut along story short, we can never go back to the illusory “freedoms” we “enjoyed” in 2019.
How is anybody going to know?
I’m hardly going to let anybody into my private office.
Salesmen, staff, & the like who want to see me, they’re received in my room in the main administration office.
Funny, but not so funny story. There’s a series that just started on Apple+ TV based on a real story about how a psychiatrist was financially abusing one of his patients to the extent of taking over his finances and entire life. Wifey was friendly with someone who either was related or knew the victim. She heard about this decades ago.
This starts to sound pertinent.
Not that I’m feeling particularly hairy-chested, but yeah.
I was there with am ex senior cop who put the number at at least 50,000.
He’s seen his share of crowds and said it would have filled at least half the MCG.
Could have been more, could have been a few less…but it’s not a bad guess.
Tucker on the inflation issue in the US.
When this poop hits the aircon, it’s going to be very unpleasant.
What historical record we have suggests that they fought like Kilkenny Cats.
“You cross our boundary, we kill you.
We cross your boundary, we kill you.”
ABC full on German Covid crisis.
“The pandemic of the unvaccinated”
It’s very hard to find any evidence of this apart from MSM crap and anecdotal citing of doctors in certain hospitals claiming 90% of patients in ICU are unvaccinated.
Pushing mandates that aren’t law in Germany no doubt.
They’re lying, we know they’re lying, they don’t care.
ABC thought the crowd was around 50K, so that is likely to be an underestimate. As DrBG wrote, multiply that by 10 at least to get the typical number of disaffected. However, in the current circumstance, I reckon you can double that again.