Meanwhile, in Airstrip One. If declining an invitation to a voluntary interview is cause for arrest, then then the interview…
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Donald J Trump announces Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as The United States Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS).
This week Elizabeth Lund was booted – she was VP of Quality. And dusky Mr Ted Colbert was let go…
I had no idea that Rita Panahi is quite famous in the US due to her “Lefties Losing It” segments…
More chick bashing Trends In Wokeness & Girlbossery In Science -but I’m pleased to see ‘physiognomy’ back in the charts,…
Yes Dot. It’s bad form to wish death on people.
Pandemic handling overall. But, I guess, in particular, the loss of freedom to choose what can be injected into you and your kids, under a threat of becoming a second class citizen. The prospect of life-long booster shots, pervasive QR-codes and contact tracing and so on.
Do you think it will return to pre-pandemic normal? Or not, but you think the new “normal” won’t be that bad?
For example now, I don’t want my kids to be injected with something that can have negative side-effects on their health (potentially for life) against the disease that presents close to zero risk for them? They are saying that the vaccine will become “available” (read “required”) for the kids from 5 years old in January 2022.
Do you think my worries are unwarranted?
Fat Tony
BJ – you would have worked in places where stupid ideas caught hold and flourished.
When everyone agrees with everyone else, it’s amazing what can be done.
Indeed I have, but the single thing that focuses the mind is the prospect of complete loss of career opportunity (or in this case, life opportunity). Suddenly caution comes to the fore.
No, John, I do not. This is a parent’s call, not ever a politician’s or bureaucrat’s.
I dunno. That guy is an absolute maniac. 91.3% double vaccinated, why can’t we open up? Okay, so 95%….and these deranged lunatics want emergency powers?
COVID has possibly been around in Europe since March 2019. Hazzard wants emergency powers until the end of October 2023.
A pandemic that lasts 3 years and 8 months? With huge vaccination targets that have been achieved?
What we really wanted was Dom Perotett to have a backbone.
He doesn’t.
It isn’t even that this is nonsensical or tyrannical. It’s both!
Absolutely not, John. I think your concerns are well founded and most warranted. Choosing to vax or not is a very personal decision and the government should stay the fuck out of it. You should decide for your kids and no one else.
Beyond this though I’m conflicted. Should businesses, private schools etc have a right to turn people away if they’re unvaxxed? Libertarianism is hard at times.
“Did God really say…”
Straightforward problem solving #101 … LOL!
https://ibb.co/JBBKkmX
Calli
Maybe all the flying bullshit from both sides has got the better of me. It always will because I prefer light to heat.
Chin up! Don’t let the bastards grind you down.
Depends if they breach a contract.
Anyway, what is happening now is they are being coerced to demand people take thus far experimental vaccines.
No one wanted this before this year. They’re being forced into it.
Head prefect is shitting himself because he has had the jab.
Ignore the nasty arsehole.
Ted, another Queensland thought leader. Where’s Lindsay Fox… ummm I mean.. Struth?
Bruce of N
Apparently there are millions of charging points all over the Middle Eastern deserts, and the US Army can easily wait 8 hours or so for their vehicles to be topped up. Not.
Each vehicle will come with a trailer with an on-board diesel generator and fuel tank.
they use radar, they don’t break at shadows. mines has only ever gone off wrongly at a bend where it looked like an oncoming car was coming directly for us. when it decides it needs to act, which is pretty rare, it beats me to breaking by a fraction of a second.
Good article from Spccy, but they also have Julie Bindel, so about two years before they are full blown communists.
https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/11/a-cheap-bottle-of-perrottet/
I don’t think they want everyone dead Calli, I think it’s control and compliance they want.
It probably started years ago when there was a push for everyone to move their medical records onto some government controlled database. Most people said no thanks, so the government moved them all anyway. They did provide a privacy provision though which said that the government wouldn’t provide access to the database to any third party unless the government thought otherwise (without reference to you of course).
This is the platform for the vaxxine thingamajig, and I suppose they can start loading other controls onto the same platform, for your own good mind you, like checking your shopping items and keeping an eye out on your carbon ration limits.
Control is what they want, some collateral damage along the way is not a problem.
Then there is the problem with the unvaxxed and uncompliant, they will be dealt with as they will never be good slaves.
John of Mel
Do you think my worries are unwarranted?
No.
Thanks for answering JC.
I don’t mind businesses deciding this at all. I’m pretty sure most of them would want to increase their customer base by allowing anyone.
But that is not what’s happening. The government doesn’t give them that choice either.
My oldest works at a small corner shop. The other day she had a visit from three (!) authorised officers, who were quite rude and demanding, even though she is not an owner of the joint. It was an intimidating experience for her. Thankfully she is bright and is good with people – she handled it well.
No. I share them.
Sketchers shops will not serve the unvaxxed.
Yeah, Roger, that’s the amazing thing. The same excuses over and over two thousand years later. The old Corban dissimulation. I’ve often linked 2 Thess 2:11. I was also meditating today on Gen 3:5, whilst on treadly, how the hubris is currently hitting eleventy. Like Nero and Caligula deciding they were gods and requiring everyone to worship them as such. The elite class are going that way again.
Er…it always was.
They even made two classic TV comedy series about it back in the ’80s.
Granted, Douglas may not be old enough to have seen them.
Vaccine persistence.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02183-8/fulltext
Look at figure 2.
Far out!
Thankfully, Bruce, Christ has won the victory over Satan.
Not just by his passive obedience of suffering and death to the point of death on the cross, but also by his preceding active obedience in keeping the Law and doing so on our behalf.
The fruit of both forms of obedience is now credited to believers on account of faith.
No peace without it. Especially in today’s world.
John – when someone says “adjusted estimated vaccine effectiveness” little alarm bells go off in my mind. The data doesn’t appear to be consistent with the empirical Israeli study.
How amazingly amazing.
Yep. I love it when my suspicions are confirmed. I’ve been actually LOLing for the last 10 minutes or so since I saw the Declaration of Interests bit in their paper. At least they were honest about it.
Bare with me – I’m working on resurrecting an old imgur account.
Do you see flowers?
Yes. Pretty! I have this problem with my climate Flickr page. Every few years I feel a need to upload another graph but I chose a hard to recall user name and password 11 years ago. I think I can still get it but.
The results of the prior linked study are similiar to other studies. I’ll settle with that.
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Nature reports the study as showing the vaccine’s efficacy declined to 90% after 30 days, 85% after 60 days and 78% after 90 days. AstraZeneca’s efficacy began at 69% a fortnight after the second dose, falling to 61% after 90 days, the journal reports.
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Protection against symptomatic disease caused by the Delta variant peaked in the first weeks after the second dose, then fell to 47.3% and 69.7% beyond 20 weeks for AstraZeneca and Pfizer respectively. The study suggested efficacy declined more steeply for those aged over 65.
AKA as Team Sean Hannity.
It is just a terrible shame that their control mechanisms are so damnably byzantine and unreliable (listening to the experiences of 2 colleagues trying to help their elderly parents register and correctly access their my.gov accounts so as to ‘prove’ their vaxxxxxination status- And still struggling after 3 days!), that non-compliance with the letter, let alone the spirit of the laws driving said control mechanisms (e.g. carrying a printed sheet) is the only way to comply.
Doestoevsky and Kafka must be sitting up there in Eternity, furiously scribbling down ideas while necking cold coffee and chain-smoking cigarettes that would choke a camel, declaring “I’d never thought of it being done that way!”
ok so we have a trigger and a sellout
Not the Israeli empirical study (n?=?16,553). Dog balls are less obvious.
Not sure where those question marks came from, no visible characters were in that string at those locations – which I Ctl-C/Ctl-Ped directly from the Nature paper.
The science is settled .
@ Zipster-
I’d like to know what Xi’s ‘Red Line’ is. Presumably it isn’t the Politburo’s own direct path to the Comrades’ Commissary (Inner Party Members Only)…*
* You know, where the good brandy and cigars are kept.
Re ch 7 and their news reporting on the Vic protests.
Heard one report from them over the weekend saying protest crowd numbered about 200.
Their evening bulletin tonight stressed the potential for danger as shown by the gallows. Their reporter, Nick McCallum, was filmed surrounded by chanting antagonists. He had deliberately gone into the crowd knowing how it would inflame their reaction.
Good use was made of “Experts say ….” and “One expert says …….”
Who was this famed, mysterious and unnamed expert expert ? Why, none other than journalist Greg Barton.
It’s tempting to see them as brainless but I’m sure most who work in the media know what they must do to keep working. Examples are made of those who step out of line, even if in private. Recall 3AW breakfast bozo some years ago at the footy overheard calling Bacher Houli a terrorist. It was a private conversation but the uproar was tremendous and he had to go through a public humiliation worthy of the Red Guards.
Media types everywhere got that message and here we are.
Yep, JC has turned into a lefty. I’m sad for you JC. Can I suggest you watch Jim Acosta and Jake Tapper? May suit you in your current delirium.
Winston Smithsays:
November 16, 2021 at 8:29 pm
Bare with me – I’m working on resurrecting an old imgur account.
Do you see flowers?
Brightly coloured franger panis?
What does this sentence mean?
Jesus went among us to call for a Jubilee Year.
Although Jubilee was the Law Of Moses, lenders had been obliging Debtrors to roll over their Debts, with the result that Palestine was ridden by debt.
His example was to show that we can’t have good things until men forgive debts on Earth.
Now that NSW has put off another Chant/Hazzard brain fart, does anyone know if the Enabling Act passed in the People’s Republic of Sicktoria?
What need would there be to pay taxes?
Bezos envisages living on a “satellite” and sending ‘minions’ down to ‘the nature park’ to select whatever he wants from that pristine, human free, estate.
Bezos long ago bought into Gerry O’Neill’s vision of space habitats to make solar power satellites to beam electricity down to Earth. At the time launch costs were such that it was better to go to the Moon to mine the materials and fling them into the required orbit around Earth using electromagnetic catapults.
There’s even a song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTc2SeHSdRc
“And the Earth is clean as a Springtime dream no factory smokes appear, for they’ve left the land to the gardener’s hand and they all are circling here”.
These folk aren’t evil.
Out of the FNQ jungle…
Pfizer, US, huge study (n=~3.4 million), Lancet, peer reviewed:
Effectiveness of mRNA BNT162b2 COVID-19 vaccine up to 6 months in a large integrated health system in the USA: a retrospective cohort study
Super-simplified summary :
Technical Note: Obviously these researchers are owned body and soul by Big Pharma and their shitty findings are way less believable than those of Trusted Bloggers drawing on secret data bases.
… and into the pub.
Bruce & BJ:
Thanks – I fixes it!
What, Grigory?
Are we now turning to theology?
I will say only this- If you truly Believe (and this is not just more of your gypsum-fuelled wrongology to try and grief Christians this time), and this is your learned or received understanding, then your vision is too small and your aim too low.
Face masks give 100% protection from ping pong balls. And sparrows.
Here’s an idea: why not just exclude those who are symptomatic from entry/ attendance?
I started thinking of Neill Blomkamp’s Elysium, but without the heavy-handed lashings of pro-Universal Healthcare and pro-Immigrant themes.
And more along the lines of Jodie Foster’s legs and the lethal bad dude portrayed by Sharlto Copley…
Pretty good data from that abstract. Which suggests less decline than in the Israel study, but also says zero effectiveness by six months. Interestingly it says AstraZeneca declined faster than Pfizer. I haven’t looked at the data in the full paper since it is in tabular form and there’s a lot of it.
ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 is AZ, BNT162b2 is Pfizer, mRNA-1273 is Moderna.
The interesting charts are right at the end of the full paper: Fig 2 and Fig S1. They suggest that vaccinated people have negative protection after 8 months, ie worse than unvaccinated people. We’ve increasingly been seeing this lately. I got in a lot of trouble from JC a month or so ago for saying exactly this.
Why are you walking around with your eyes skyward and your mouth agape?
Eyrie:
No, but they are living in a bubble that only allows what they want to hear and see through.
They are ignorant of their own idiocy and hubris.
Why are you doing that JC?
I’ve had a shit couple of days being trolled by arseholes here. Why would you join their ranks?
You are so much better than this.
He’s actually not.
These folk aren’t evil.
No, but they are living in a bubble that only allows what they want to hear and see through.
They are ignorant of their own idiocy and hubris.
Winston, I was referring to Gerry O’Neill and the L5 society folk who came up with the concept. There was no elitism there. They were trying to figure out a better life for everyone without degrading he Earth.
Thanks Winston.
That was what I wanted to get at with my Elysium reference. The world Up There was blissfully ignorant of just how good they had it, and how brutal they were (by proxy, demonstrated by Jodie Foster’s and Sharlto Copley’s characters) to everyone beneath them. Both figuratively and literally.
I found Blomkamp too preachy and one-dimensional for the story that could have been told. But that is his pattern, as District 9 and Chappie also demonstrated.
But damn, can the man portray a rough and squalid existence at the bottom rungs of a Third-World society…
You know that Pfizer funded that study so you can bet we are seeing the best findings.
If eff. against infection is dropping you can bet eff. against severity declines as well. That is what a similar study in Sweden showed.
I didn’t quite say that, Faustus, but I did giggle a lot.
@ Eyrie-
Utopianism and all its fascinating technological offshoots are great.
Right up to the point where human nature and all its innate bastardry gets in the way.
Bruce,
I was being a tad sarcastic
This fellow is on the front foot.
Try and try and try and try again.
Maybe it’s like those worms in Tequila. Can’t swim
Baba:
European or African sparrows?
Frozen or thawed?
Shot out of a cannon or just flying?
🙂
Sorry Winston I didn’t see your comment earlier. It wasn’t worth watching anyone because the judge was clearly against Dr Hobart from the start. The judge didn’t think doctor-patient confidentiality mattered and handed down a decision of application refused.
Not utopianism, Rex. You had to be there in the early 1970’s to understand the bleak, polluted future facing us in light of the Club of Rome report etc. O’Neill’s folks were trying to figure a way out of this.
Now find a copy of O’Neills “The High Frontier”, read it, and get back to us.
That’s what used to happen with Measles and Chicken Pox, thou I don’t remember it being set in stone.
Nowadays, Government strives for perfection and is criticised for not achieving it.
So we have calls for a Rollout, then calls for Mass vaccination, now calls for total vaccination, and one new Case means whatever went before failed, so let’s double down on what didn’t work.
It’s called 5G Warfare.
I don’t know who “he” is, but that is absolutely correct. In terms of dealing with a virus, they actually have a negative impact – they don’t stop the virus but can cause other, serious ailments, including bacterial pneumonia.
Oh look, it’s QLD’s ace aviator and all round entrepreneur, Hallward Hughes…. Just trolling.
Just fuck off JC. You add nothing to the debates here.
Straight from the Government
The British government has spilled the beans about that fact that once you get double jabbed, you will never again be able to acquire full natural immunity.
In its Week 42 “COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report,” the U.K. Health Security Agency admitted on page 23 that “N antibody levels appear to be lower in people who acquire infection following two doses of vaccination.” It goes on to explain that this antibody drop is basically permanent.
What’s this mean?
We know the vaccines do not stop infection or transmission of the virus (in fact, the report shows elsewhere that vaccinated adults are now being infected at much HIGHER rates than the unvaccinated).
What the British are saying is they are now finding the vaccine interferes with your body’s innate ability after infection to produce antibodies against not just the spike protein but other pieces of the virus. Specifically, vaccinated people don’t seem to be producing antibodies to the nucleocapsid protein, the shell of the virus, which are a crucial part of the response in unvaccinated people.
In the long term, people who take the vaccine will be far more vulnerable to any mutations in the spike protein that might come along, even if they have already been infected and recovered once, or more than once.
The unvaccinated, meanwhile, will procure lasting, if not permanent, immunity to all strains of the alleged virus after being infected with it naturally even just once.
Read it for yourself.. Page 24.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1027511/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-42.pdf
You’ve lost me. property confiscation by governments is fake new but all fines led to property ownership and confiscation?????
Bezos said that Earth will be kept as a nature park.
The billionaires have attained a position of power and influence that is now not of this world. What I mean to say is that the laws/codes/ethics that control the behaviour and demeanour of the average person is not for them in the same way as it was not for the robber barons of old. But now there’s a vision of a larger future. All around the world, huge subsidies are now moving massive sums from taxpayers to big business and making these oligarchs even more thirsting after greater power and control.
For the average-bloke-in-the-street and voter, the extent of the manipulation and straight-out corruption of the political process seen in the 2020 presidential election would have been shocking to see – think in the lead up all those huge Trump crowds and then the loss. Everyone who turned out for Trump would have been as gobsmacked as the rest of the world watching on to see that mental deficient Let’s Go Brandon with his links to various foreign interests, including state actors, now in the WH because of election fraud.
To follow the train wreck that is Joe Biden is to see a career politician and his family enrich themselves because of a lifetime of Joe holding public office. So it’s always been about the money, and lots of it, and it’s political lobbying that makes it so.
In the case of vaccination programs, by bringing in countless amounts of government derived moula more bees are drawn to the honey . Bill Gates is on record saying that his move into vaccines has been more lucrative than any other investment he’s ever made – all of which must begin with business to government relationships, and of course, certain philanthropic foundations. Add to that the real dislike of the masses – those Trump Deplorables – and any one else who is not a full-on “progressive” and SJW, and there’s no room left for any moral compass.
For Big Pharma, take a product that is hyped as being about “life and death” and is needed by everyone yesterday, add in public health officials who, because of their positions, have connections to supranational organisations that have their own agendas and which push for changes to be made to public health policy for their benefit, also add in a bunch of politicians all after election/re-election, and we are some way there to explaining how we got to here. Rich countries with spendthrift governments, weak oppositions, unengaged or slanted media and disinterested electorates, and there’s nothing that bad actors can’t achieve.
In the case of Covid, you have long term relationships between communist dictatorships and those whose pursuits would not have been legally attained within representative democracies. Enter Fauci, Daszak and et al. As Fauci opined (I can’t remember where I read it) about his disappointment that too few people turned up every year for the ‘flu jab. So something else had to be found to get people vaccinated. With Covid the true rivers of gold are full on.
Yes, these are evil and disgusting people, and yet we’re just scratching the surface of what they’ve done – more will come out about them in time, their links and the destruction they have wrought on the entire world. And though they may not have set out deliberately – front of mind – to kill people – and potentially many thousands of people – we should all remind ourselves that they knew their partners were the CCP and they knew, like us, that that regime has deliberately killed millions and millions of Chinese. It is hard to think that these things are deliberate, but given where we are, I can’t see how they’re not. If you haven’t watched Dr David Martin, take a look. And do a search of how Pfizer dealt with Argentina and Brazil.
Wow.. only a week ago you were grovelling to me. Was it the rebuff that upset you, dickface?
Keep adding real science sites like market ticker, you clown. You add less than zero and your virgin pal even less.
Gab,
This is exactly what Karl Denninger has been saying at http://www.market-ticker.org for months.
Not only are the “vaccines” ineffective after a short time they screw your natural immunity to variants of the virus and possibly ANYTHING ELSE, including cancer. The next few years will be “interesting”.
Seen enough.
Feel down in the dumps after realising the Doc had his instructions and that was it.
I am not giving in. If I am classed as unclean so be it.
I am not experimenting with my immune system.
Apparently the much mentioned Nuremberg get out clause won’t save you.
1. It’s not experimental having been passed as safe.
2. It’s a public health order for the greater good.
Marx lives.
1/ what odds
2/ bet parameters
3/ date of bet first business day in 1924
How much and we escrow.
The cancer bet Hallward.
Yeah, eventually, if you don’t pay Fines the Government will go after your property.
It happens more often for non payment of Rates.
What does this sentence mean?
Jesus went among us to call for a Jubilee Year.
Where do you get that from? Have you got a Scriptural reference?
Although Jubilee was the Law Of Moses, lenders had been obliging Debtrors to roll over their Debts, with the result that Palestine was ridden by debt.
How did that happen? Thee Jubilee was fixed by the calendar, not by reference to when a debt was incurred, so “rolling over” a debt wouldn’t work. Either the rollover didn’t happen till after the Jubilee, by which time the debt would need to have been released, or it would happen before, in which case when the Jubilee arrived the rolled over debt would have to be released anyway.
His example was to show that we can’t have good things until men forgive debts on Earth.
There’s so much wrongology here it’s difficult to know where to begin.
Friend of ours just a couple of months ago bought a brand new Mercedes AMG GL63 with all the fruit — $270k worth.
Driving along West Coast Drive (50 km/h limit) one afternoon, it suddenly shat itself and decided there was a collision coming. Hit the anchors, shut everything down, sent a message via satellite to M-B, almost pushed C into the oncoming lane.
M-B WA refused any assistance whatsoever. C had to get her own tow truck while consoling an almost hysterical daughter. M-B answer eventually was a shrug and reset the computer — basically, “yeah, shit happens”.
Karl Denniger sounds like a hardcore scientist .
Market Ticker is an incredible science site.
variants of the virus and possibly ANYTHING ELSE, including cancer.
I went through the link very quickly. I couldn’t find the claim that vaccines screw your natural immunity let alone reduce immunity to cancer. Cancer isn’t mentioned in the link. Can someone point me to the claim in the link?
John H
Hallward Hughes is making the claim because he read it at Karl Denniger’s blog.
Bruce in WA already had a couple of heart in mouth moments from technology I can do without, in hire cars.
Especially when the car starts breaking without warning as you start an overtaking manoeuvre on somewhere like the Peak Downs Hwy, after sensing the car in front. Nothing like washing off 20km/h when you are just about to pull into the oncoming traffic lane to get the heart started. Reckon as the cars age the electronics will do more funky stuff, with unintended consequences.
The Jubilee Yearwas the 7th year after the Debt was undertaken.
If Foreclosure had happened during that time, the land was returned to the Debtor.
Of course, during the time of Jesus, Jubilee hadn’t been practised for centuries.
That’s gobbledegook.
John,
Gab @ 9.26pm has info.
How would private schools know anyone is vaccinated if the government wasn’t maintaining a vast compulsory database of everyone’s private medical records, compelling doctors and nurses to enter your records into it, then making it available to anyone who asks against the will of the people who own the data?
Some libertarian world you’ve got.
JC X causes Cancer is the biomedical equivalent of Godwin’s Law.
BTW because research is industry funded is not sufficient reason to reject it. Most large studies are conducted by Big Pharma so by that logic we may as well be treated by an aromatherapist.
” but they also have Julie Bindel, so about two years before they are full blown communists.”
I would not describe Julie Bindel as a communist……she was the child of communists and she’s probably “old fashioned Labour”…..that is the Labour party that no longer exists….having been taken over by middle class inner city twats.
Regardless, I’ve always liked her…particularly her humour. Last year the mob came after her and she was cancelled (not that being cancelled would bother her) for suggesting on Twatter a name for the new Sussex sprog…..
Georgina Floydina
How I laughed. But we can’t be funny anymore….we mustn’t be funny anymore.
I remember Denninger from during and just after the financial crisis. Everyone of his predictions were wrong .
I thought he was dead, Hallward brought him back to life.
“Last year the mob came after her”
Apologies, it was earlier this year.
Said the bloke who claimed gypsum is toxic in water, Japanese subs sank the HMAS Sydney despite the corroborated testimony of hundreds, that Queensland jacks use paddles for traffic control work because Nazis and that 24/7 CCTV exists in every room in Parliament House.
“Timothy Neilsonsays:
November 16, 2021 at 9:38 pm”
Well said.
Eyrie:
I misunderstood you then, Eyrie.
I’ve long been a fan of Gerry O’Neils Habitat ideas. Building a habitat for ten thousand people would be a marvelous project.
There’s a shape that lends itself perfectly to assembling a small habitat to work from. The frame really only consists of the angled joints, the arms connecting the joints can be whatever length needed, and the infill holes could be made from titanium with framework inside to attach equipment modules, and four of the pentagons could have cast into them the airlock doors for tubes going out as the spokes of a wheel.
The tubes to build a rim would be made here and would be the outer skin of a rocket or booster.
Build the rim and then extend that rim past the pressurised sections.
The decision to spin the ‘wheel’ to provide some gravity for the wukkas would be up to the design engineers.
I like this design because ATM I’m reading a book about the Russian Space Program and the difficulties they had with zero G wastage of muscle and bones in their astronauts.
Have Aromatherapists ever killed anyone?
Have a squiz at the death toll from Vioxx, Pig Pharma were fined Billion$ over that.
Beyond this though I’m conflicted. Should businesses, private schools etc have a right to turn people away if they’re unvaxxed?
Antidiscrimination legislation in NSW (and iirc the AHRC) acknowledge that no-one may be discriminated against for having/had/may have an infectious disease. I think that covers all of the above.
The aviator won’t offer odds and take a bet, JohnH. He won’t be back until tomorrow now.
Yep, it’s bizarro Greens garbage. It’s exactly how the Greens go around criticizing businesses and the Right. Oh, they make money from oil so anything they say cannot be believed about anything. This has become so fucked up.
Booooooo! Grow a spine Perrottet!
I don’t. We don’t. But you prefer big government so you wouldn’t like libertarian philosophy.
Gab:
That’s disheartening as it now seems the Emergency Laws are now the only ones that count.
Dismal Days are upon us.
My sister experienced abdominal pain the morning after receiving second dose of Pfizer several weeks ago now.
Rang her GP and asked if it could have been from the vaccine. He said yes.
She battled on with the pain because her 49yr old daughter had been having tests for nausea and anemia. Further tests on my niece indicated blood loss which did not respond to iron supplements. Endoscopy, MRI, CT then PET scan revealed cancer. After keyhole surgery by a colorectal surgeon and a gynaecologist and nine days in hospital she came home last Thursday. Diagnose yesterday was stage 4 cancer, treatment chemo and radiotherapy.
My sister is still in pain with the pancreatitis, and the GP told her it would probably ease as the amount of vaccine in her body decreased over time. She battles on because of her daughter who is schizophrenic and totally relies on her.
At 76 she is five years younger than I, and a coeliac since birth. She objected to having the vaccine but was pressured by her husband and daughter for her own safety to take it. She didn’t tell me until after she had had her first vax. After talking to her yesterday I think it may kill her.
Disgusting left wing media, praising the muzzie bastard who tried to blow up the hospital and succeeded in blowing himself up. Lot’s of smilie pics and comments from assorted dipshits about the fucktard being a lovely guy.
It seems that Novavax does.
Looks like waiting for this is actually a good decision.
Too bad about how that is making me ostracised.
Eyrie $ Bruce O’Newk:
I’d lend you my copy but it’s slowly disintegrating from being over read.
And understanding that the Club of Rome was just another pack of robber-barons looking to exert control over those dirty masses (which, I grant, took a while for most of said masses to figure out), the L5 Society were a bunch of imaginative thinkers who took the Ehrlichian scenario presented to them and did their best to try and solve it.
A bunch of nominally ‘good’ people came up with some good ideas in response to a dystopian bastard’s proposition.
It does not clash with my claim that these ideas are great until human nature gets involved and ruins it for everyone…
BBS,
a while back I planted broad beans and mentioned it on the forum.
I skited about a bunch of plants constituting like 20 meals.
Somebody challenged and I recommended they eat shit and die
so yesterdays nose-bag was nice but there’s some beans left over and tarragon.
Today was pork sausage, potato, onions, red pepper and cherry tomato … baked
the salsa Verde was tarragon, parsley, toasted corianer seed and cumin seed, honey, salt, olive oil and lemon juice, and about a quarter cup of broad beans … blitzed
last of today’s salsa will be frozen and then probably dumped in a soup at some point
anyway, there are still some beans left to make another salsa tomorrow to have with left-over snausage bake
The bean trees are still giving too… might plant another patch so it doesn’t stop.
Yep, I said that before. It is not libertarian.
No one was asking this nonsense before 2020.
Conservative Inc (Pence, Morrison) and globalists (Clinton, Boob Carr) are squarely to blame.
Yes. Quite recently, in fact.
https://www.wcax.com/2021/11/04/cdc-updates-health-warning-aromatherapy-spray-after-2nd-death-more-cases-rare-disease/
I think it is, Dot.
Here’s the problem. If you supported the baker’s right to refuse to bake a cake for a couple of gays (everyone did at the old blog). How can you then 180 for a private (not government) school or business refusing service?
Also, who among us here has ever protested about un-immunized kids not being allowed in school?
I wouldn’t apply this to any government enterprise nor agency, but private concerns should have a right to serve whomever they want.
I don’t disagree but we should treat them like polling paid for by political parties. They are likely to tailor them in order to produce the right results and present them in the best possible light.
And another one –
Belgium’s most-vaccinated province also has highest number of Covid cases
And they didn’t even use gypsum…
Isn’t nearly every medication either on prescription or over the counter an example of reserach funded by pharma?
Has Adam Bandt taken over the open forum, has he.?
Too bad about how that is making me ostracised.
Dot, but think about what a nice bunch of people who are with you in that boat.
gaytimes
Daily Mail
EXCLUSIVE: Prosecution’s star witness in Kyle Rittenhouse case is a career criminal with a history of domestic abuse, prowling, trespass and burglary – but had charges DROPPED just six days before trial began and jury never learned of his past
isn’t it interesting that this didn’t come out before the jury was sequestered.
Cohenite:
…and that deception gave him the opportunity for the Left to put up headlines like “Not Muslim – Christian Bomber”.
How does the baker learn I’m unvaxxed? Is he refusing to sell me any cake or just an unvaxxed celebratory cake?
Stix
Apologies. I thought your comment was responding to mine, but you weren’t. Ignore what I said. I also agree with Dot.
Every cloud has a silver lining.
MT, I don’t know what to say…except I had corn on toast for tea.
(btw, I collect photos of recipes – I’ve just taken one of your comment – maybe I’ll try to recreate one of your lists).
He can ask for your certificate like I was been asked recently at car showroom. This weekend in fact.
Also been asked at restaurants.
Got the usual invite for New Year’s at the Wog Club ( I can say that being of European descent). The Clb is only allowing jabbed or those with an exemption (I guess there’ll be limits). All my friends going have been jabbed and one of them is bringing his mother – alos jabbed – and is grateful that the great unjabbed lot won’t be allowed in. I’m still formulating my reply but I’m thanking of saying something like ”as I’m not jabbed, I prefer to stay away from the jabbed, especially the elderly, in case they catch the virus from me”.. Of course this will go completely over their little Marxist-loving heads.
Why does he have a right to know?
P,
very sorry to hear about your sister and your niece. I hope all of their treatments go well and kindest regards to you and them.
BBS
At the moment, no one is policing the QR Code sign in.
Once this happens and it’s linked to Vaccine History, you won’t be able to buy food without being up to date.
BTW JC, they can only ask you that now because the state obliges them too.
Sure,
Being ostracised is not pleasant, but it is my choice.
I’ll never sign in with QR code if I can help it. 5% do is my estimate.
Yes, P, thoughts with you.
Thank you so much.
P, such dreadful news, I’m so sorry. Life can be such a bitch. I will think of you daily, wishing you well.
Thanks Jorge.
Also thank you hzhousewife, y0u are always a good read on Catallaxy.
No. I won’t have this constant criticism of the MSM.
They are special frontline heroes, risking all to give us accurate information that is never, hardly ever a gigantic fuckup (the Tele):
Terry Flowers, understandably, got a shit tin of hate on his FB accounts, not to mention elsewhere. Se7en apologised and made him an offer but he told them to jam both up their arse.
It’ll be a lawyers’ picnic, but in this case it will be worth it.
Ed Case says:
November 16, 2021 at 10:32 pm
Once this happens and it’s linked to Vaccine History, you won’t be able to buy food without being up to date.
Is this when people will starve to death or take the fight to the government?
Was there any point at all to Joe’s zoom with Xi ? Bueller ?
it may be their right
it may be mandated
but it is not good business
Macro-Boi, still thinks this is deflationary
Have seen jobs on Seek saying unjabbed welcome to apply. Only seen one of those on LinkedIn.
In a month’s time I lose a good girl. She’s been fine to work for the past 2 years.
She is vehement she won’t be vaccinated, so in a month’s time she becomes a Dalit & has to quit the job.
It’s not as if we can spare a few, we’re already desperately understaffed.
The freight company who brings my supplies is short of Seventy staff. They’ve quite a bit of asset value sitting idle, engines cold.
One of my whale customers is a large HVAC firm. They’re multi-national (though I dunno about interstate) with a lot of hospital work.
So many of their blokes have refused to be vaccinated* that they’re having trouble keeping up with the hospital work.
(* only fully vaccinated workmen allowed on the hospital jobs, apparently)
if you want, I’ll break it down to instructions
the right ingredients and measures and timing
and just enough cavalier attitude to bring it to the table
the sausage bake is awesome.
missus has this down to a fine art now.
gotta find a pork sausage tied with string and made by Italians. Best with chili, not fennel
gotta find a real butcher
potatoes, the starchy russet colored ones or even better, sebago if you can get ’em
and the salsa (always my job)
the real secret is a herb garden
fresh sage, mint, oregano, bay, parsley, tomato, chili
mind you, this growing season is all screwed up.
self seeded tomatoes have only just popped … like a 2 months late and the parsley ran to seed already
global warmening my arse
cant manage to grow tarragon but we have an awesome grocer (wogs of course) and when tarragon is in season their bunches are exceedingly generous and the stuff lasts for ages if you wrap it in a bag or glad wrap
hmmm … chicken pie
and just for the record, when I talk about food I’m also talking about economics, politics and climate
not talking about icy poles
these dumb-fucks haven’t worked it out yet.
until the chef knows how to weld and how to gas their own freezer … they’re fucked
and that’s why your parma has now doubled in price
retards
best value fridgy will be un-vaxed
better to join the illicit economony
sure mate, I’ll fix yr freezer for a year of schnitzel
but I was never here … right?
Man, 2000s conservatism has not aged well.
I hear the latest terrorist bomber in London, locked in a taxi, was a Christian.
Well, that seems to be the spin with it being reported he was a recent convert to Christianity.
So. Did Christianity “radicalise” him?
He didn’t car bomb any hospitals when he was in his previous peaceful religion.
Ergo, Christianity is the problem.
Indisputable.
Yet, according to their director, ASIO now spend half their counter-terrorism budget on garage Nazis.
The Jubilee Yearwas the 7th year after the Debt was undertaken.
Poor old Ed. See Leviticus Chapter 25. The sabbath year (each seventh) had nothing to do with forgiveness of debts, and the Jubilee year, every 50th, had nothing to do with when the debt was incurred, but was a fixed 50th year.
Sad to see someone beclown himself so badly.
That’s gobbledegook.
Poor old Ed. Sad to see someone unable to understand simple logic.
novavax news
india to export novavax to Indonesia
Pharma . like who needs pharma.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/11/15/alzheimers-vaccine-step-closer-new-treatment-reverses-memory/
I wonder if it gives you cancer though. Where’s Hallward Hughes when you need him.
John Spooner.
No idea what this Warren Brown cartoon is about.
No idea what this Peter Broelman cartoon is about either.
David Rowe — something about ScoMo and Sleepy Joe.
Morten Morland.
Michael Ramirez.
A.F. Branco.
Bob Gorrell.
Tom Stiglich.
Matt Margolis.
Gary Varvel.
Chip Bok.
Lisa Benson.
could it be about the search for William Tyrell?
Sorry Tom butter thumb.
Much needed reality check.
Cheers.
Is there a reference to The Watcher On The Cast Iron Balcony?
I don’t know if the automatic emergency braking is the same thing that many trucks have now but if it is it makes overtaking almost impossible and difficult on even dual lane roads. What happens is that the manufacturer sets it at say 250 metres for trucks to start the braking, you’ll be running along and catching the vehicle in front on a highway probably in cruise control, the if you’re not observant the truck will slowly slow down to match the speed of the slower vehicle in front. You then have the option of moving into the right hand lane a quarter of a kilometre before you catch the vehicle in front, in which case vehicles faster than you will say ‘What the f#%k is he doing and they move into the left hand lane and try and overtake you on the inside as it will take your truck a fairly long time to get back up to speed and get past the vehicle in front that’s slower than you. This can be avoided in trucks that have the ability to switch off the auto braking but I bet the gov would like to not have that feature available to you and as such nearly all traffic will be reduced to the speed of the slowest vehicle, especially on single lane roads.
Is the spell checker for these comments on my computer or Dovers Site? Just curious.
Timothy said:
If that was so, then who would lend money in the 49th year or the 48th, and so on?
Sad to see someone beclown himself so badly.
Huh
Simple logic tells you that the Jubilee was calculated from the date the debt was incurred.
A fixed date woulda killed business.
Jesus called for a Jubilee Year across the board because debts were being rolled over by agreement and the entire country was swimming in Debt with a few at the top living like Potentates.
Why do you think he threw the moneychangers and dove sellers out of the Temple?
They only ask because they have a gun to their heads!
They’re also scared of frivolous WHS lawsuits. A few of these get resolved and it might get a little better.
Tell us when you were asked about this before 2021, and by whom and why.
Dilbert 1
I wouldn’t apply this to any government enterprise nor agency, but private concerns should have a right to serve whomever they want.
I know of private organisations where government has entirely farmed out its responsibilities to them.
Much needed reality check my arse!
Private companies are “choosing to exercise their right to refuse unvaccinated” under duress from the state.
Like people who have been forced into a vaccine to feed their family.
If this whole edifice of propaganda and hysteria didn’t exist how long do you think the private companies would get away with asking for personal medical info?
The cake baking for gays argument v COVID vaccines passport is bullshit and should be buried. It’s a red herring.
No wonder they changed ‘global warming’ to ‘climate change’, I’ve got the heater on this morning. I’ve been in my house for 23 years and this is the latest I’ve required the heating, I normally turn it off after daylight saving starts. It’s also the latest I’ve had a blanket on the bed under the doona, that usually comes off around Melbourne Cup Day. The start of mountain bike season at Thredbo has been delayed two weeks because the upper slopes are still covered in snow.
“Tintarella di Lunasays:
November 17, 2021 at 4:59 am
No idea what this Warren Brown cartoon is about.
could it be about the search for William Tyrell?”
That’s my impression too Tinta.
I’m confused by the right wing extremists (fascists according to Twitter) using pictures of the Dear Leader in a trendy 1940’s German uniform.
The awfulness of the Great Reformer portrayed as a fascist dictator by fascists seems to be the crux of reporting by the ABC and MSM.
These fascists must be very mixed up people.
Antidiscrimination legislation in NSW (and iirc the AHRC) acknowledge that no-one may be discriminated against for having/had/may have an infectious disease. I think that covers all of the above.
Which reads very well but in reality is, absolutely BLOODY, useless when your stood at an entrance being told to F**** OFF for being UNCLEAN! .. LOL!
Not quite, part of s49 (IIRC) allows for an exemption on public ‘elf grounds.
“Tintarella di Lunasays:
November 17, 2021 at 4:59 am
No idea what this Warren Brown cartoon is about.
could it be about the search for William Tyrell?”
That’s my impression too Tinta.
My guess is that it’s a .. chasing the tail .. take on the case .. and I’m also hazarding that Broelman effort is a Danistan specific location in-joke ..
Dilbert 2
At least one private company eagerly refused service to the unvaxxed months ago in one country town.
Unless the duress is financial penalties I don’t see what pressure government can bring to bear.
Not quite, part of s49 (IIRC) allows for an exemption on public ‘elf grounds.
I was referring to having knowledge of the act not the actual wording .. LOL!
There are people around who like things like automatic braking, side lane warning beeps and reversing cameras. All these things remove the driver’s capacity for situational awareness.
These are people who cannot operate a motor vehicle on their own, who allow the car to do the driving for them, and who are therefore dangerous and shouldn’t be on the road in the first place.
Broelman is referencing the SA inquiry into banning a seaport for Kangaroo Island.
The SA attorney general is accused of a direct conflict of interest in banning the port as a road leading to the proposed development would have gone past her private property.
So, two and a half years since the May 2019 election and five or six months before the next federal election, Scumbag Morrison and the Liberals have an epiphany and they suddenly remember those cultural issues important to right of centre and conservative voters and they suddenly remember some of those elections promises that they’ve sat on their big far arses and done nothing about since 2019, such as the Religious Freedom Bill.
From the Oz (I can’t access the whole piece)…
“Morrison returns to religious freedom fight
A reworked religious freedoms bill will shield Australians who express reasonable and genuinely held faith-based views that might offend others”
All I can say is…..it’s too late Scumbag Morrison….too late.
Private companies are “choosing to exercise their right to refuse unvaccinated” under duress from the state.
The local BIG W has come up with a unique way of policing the “tick”on entry .. they have severa, slightly retarded, employees (usually shelf stackers) and have taken to putting on, rotating, entry duties thru-out the day .. apparently, the instructions being tick OK, no tick not OK .. no one, apparently, argues/blusters ..
Not overly dignified (for staff) but I doubt BIG W cares ……….!
Attack lobsters.
China Seizes Live Australian Rock Lobsters After Declaring ‘Security Threat’ (16 Nov)
Good to know that at least there’s one thing Australian that Xi fears.
There are people around who like things like automatic braking, side lane warning beeps and reversing cameras. All these things remove the driver’s capacity for situational awareness.
It my job I am fortunate to drive rhe companies luxury cars which get changed over quite often. Due to a current shortage of micro chips manufacturers are removing features. Heading up the Hume Hwy after lockdown I finally had cruise control engaged for the first time in yonks . I was coming up behind a truck and noticed I was gaining on him without slowing. I switch off cc and look over the steering wheel controls. Ah no radar. Bastards took it out of this model and I hadn’t read ze bulletins. It’s surprising how quick you adapt to new tech and when it ain’t there you have to smarten up…quickly.
Alex Berenson
More people died in the key clinical trial for Pfizer’s Covid vaccine than the company publicly reported
Cheating from the very beginning but, then, of course we always knew that.
It was challenging enough back in the 40’s trying to cover conceal FDR being in a wheelchair due to Polio – they even went to the extent of building a train station under the Waldorf Astoria so he could disembark a train and be spirited to his room without being seen.
FDR could also speak to the public on radio.
But there is no hiding the train-crash senility of Biden.
Add to that the fact they must keep Kamala away from cameras and mikes and…people in general. Had they been wiser they would have dressed her up as a witch and let her meet the people on Halloween – the cackling would have looked like she was playing the character.
And Raggedy Anne Psaki? She must have thought the job was going to be so easy after seeing Kayleigh McEnany handle it so deftly. I saw her yesterday being asked how Biden felt about having described Rittenhouse as a White Supremacist. She said she was not going to comment on an ongoing trial.
There is, I think, a consoling axiom taught to young women who might be a bit dowdy or such – they are told that the pretty girls lack character or gumption or smarts etc. We are talking pubescent kids here. But Psaki has been ill-favoured across the board. And the world sees it every day on a schedule.
In fact, I think Trump’s administration made it look easy. I am sure many people who voted for Biden assumed that there was a certain baseline competence that takes care of itself so even a person who posts mean tweets can deliver a level of effective leadership.
Anyway, the tweets weren’t mean. It was just that when Trump was kicked, he kicked back. Usually a better kick than he was given. And his self-appointed tormentors were whining that the person they were picking on fought back.
How mean!
Xi is just doing his Christmas shopping. He knows the supply chain is stuffed.
TaliDans new attack dog, Andy Meddick, accused Avi Yemini in parliament last night of being a “known neo-nazi reporter”
Jewish neo-Nazis, that’s new.
Are we seeing some new form of Covid-19 Vaccine induced Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome? – Official Government data suggests the Fully Vaccinated are on the precipice of disaster as their Immune Systems are being decimated
The Only Choice Left: Slavery or Freedom
Again, this is something we have been warned about and it’s now on the cusp.
I’ve been living in my house for the last 44 years and this is the latest I have had the heating on. Climate change maybe but not warming.
It is also instructive that no matter the climate problem the solution is always the same, the lower classes must give up their privileges. The elites get to keep theirs just because.
Are you joking?
From the Premier of Victoria’s Website:
20 June 2021
Seven Victorian businesses have been shut down for blatant violations of the Chief Health Officer’s directions, as part of a crackdown on COVIDSafe compliance.
https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/keeping-businesses-check-so-victoria-can-stay-open
Health report as of 25/9/2021 in the champion countries of the anti-covid vaccination
This is translated from French so it might read a little strangely.
That ‘great Negro’ speech he made in the last few days was a belter. From Blair at the Tele:
The great negro. At the time. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the leader of the free world.