Open Thread – Weekend 20 Nov 2021


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1,130 responses to “Open Thread – Weekend 20 Nov 2021”

  1. Dot Avatar

    Gotta zip.

    Salty’s stream today on Rittenhouse and the five year long tantrum about Hillary forever not being President, has truly been epic.

    Guess I am a salty convert.

  2. Behind Enemy Lines Avatar
    Behind Enemy Lines

    Yes, another big crowd today. A family day out for many. Pretty much a cheerful crew having a good-natured time of what remains a very serious matter.

    For the first time, however, I have seen some actual extremists: three groups of very obvious antifa-style problem children, one pair armed, along with a number of dodgy looking lefties carrying heavy bags full of who-knows-what. I don’t know what sort of trouble they’re looking for, but they’re clearly looking for it all right.

    Anyway, I’m increasingly starting to think the next election’s going to be a blood bath for the major parties. If there was ever a moment for independents to stand, it’s now.

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  3. Winston Smith Avatar

    rosie:

    And I don’t see how Morrison comes out of the Meddick thing badly.
    A PM cannot hold back condemning what appear to be credible claims of politically motivated violence, just in case.

    He could have waited until he knew the facts, but was too busy polishing his woke halo.
    Where is the criticism of the excesses of the police state he could have stopped at any time but didn’t because he is a gutless fool, more interested in fellating his backers?
    This travesty of a PM makes me so damned angry.
    I never hated Malcolm Fraser this much.

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  4. Mater Avatar
    Mater

    Here with Megan, Rickw and others!
    Unbelievable stuff!

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  5. Nelson_Kidd-Players Avatar

    Seems quiet at Spring Street. Where are you guys? 😉

    Flagstaff?

    My picture.

  6. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    shatterzzzsays:
    November 20, 2021 at 11:53 am
    Once a houso, always a houso. Apparently.

    Always done very well out of real estate, its in the family. Heard one a long time ago. If you have not much money, buy in the cheapest suburb, don’t move , the price will always come to you. The scum (h.t. Cassie) always move on. I recently passed on a Mid Century Modern in a crap neighbourhood 50% cheaper than similar two suburbs away. I have enough on my plate for the next few years but it is annoying me no end.

  7. calli Avatar
    calli

    Behind Enemy Lines – take photos of these guys. They may be needed.

  8. dover0beach Avatar

    Massive crowd. Will have pics and vids later.

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  9. Behind Enemy Lines Avatar
    Behind Enemy Lines

    Matersays:
    November 20, 2021 at 1:11 pm
    Here with Megan, Rickw and others!
    Unbelievable stuff!

    Is there a no-dox way of recognising you?

    callisays:
    November 20, 2021 at 1:13 pm
    Behind Enemy Lines – take photos of these guys. They may be needed.

    Am in stealth mode, without the mobile phone or the rest of my usual baggage.

  10. Bar Beach Swimmer Avatar
    Bar Beach Swimmer

    Is there any live stream?

  11. Nelson_Kidd-Players Avatar

    More people in the Bourke Street Mall. Not the agreement of printed signs. Almost all hand made.

    Picture.

  12. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    of late from Labor luminaries Husic & Shorten

    Got all excited reading about the late Husic and Shorten, then reread. Poo.

  13. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Godspeed (May God cause you to succeed) & stay safe everyone down there in Melbourne.

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  14. Bar Beach Swimmer Avatar
    Bar Beach Swimmer

    Thanks, P & Carpe.

  15. Delta A Avatar
    Delta A

    Huge, happy and peaceful crowd at Melbourne protest.

    Rukshan covering it on Facebook.

  16. Top Ender Avatar
    Top Ender

    The idiotic mask rule lifted for the NT, except in Katherine.

  17. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Kneel

    They will focus instead on how everyone was “racist”.

    It’d all they have. White shoots whites attacking him. Clearly waaayysist!

  18. Delta A Avatar
    Delta A

    Estimates that the crowd is larger than last week.

    Sadly, a dozen or so crackpots with their SRA* rubbish have infiltrated the genuine protesters. I wager that the msm will focus on their signs, rather than the thousands of clever signs supporting the protest.

    *Satanic Ritual Abuse.

  19. Fair Shake Avatar
    Fair Shake

    Heading in to Spring St. I assume the people end up there at some point.

    Listening to 3AW (Melbourne talk back radio) news described protest as ‘so called Freedom Rally’ then proceeded to give oxygen to anti racist and ant fascist protestors with no biased introduction. Whereas they could have used ‘discredited’ or ‘violent thug group’ …

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  20. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    rosie says:
    November 20, 2021 at 1:27 pm
    not exactly a huge crowd at the anti anti Dan rally

    Anti fascist rally.
    They are fighting the fascists using fascist symbolism to depict Dan.
    Special people doing special things.

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  21. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    The idiotic mask rule lifted for the NT, except in Katherine.

    Reports coming in that bank robbers are striking in protest.

  22. Mater Avatar
    Mater

    Great placard:

    “Sorry!…I voted Labor.”

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  23. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Salty Cracker forecast after Rittenhouse verdict: cloudy with a chance of rain and lots of get fucked commies.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIxIxcxsqBo

  24. Nelson_Kidd-Players Avatar

    Reached Flagstaff Gardens. Lots here but may be hard to see in the news pictures. Lots of noise, though.

  25. Mater Avatar
    Mater

    Reached Flagstaff Gardens. Lots here but may be hard to see in the news pictures. Lots of noise, though.

    Incredible numbers.

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  26. srr Avatar
    srr

    ENJOY!

    Failed Lynching

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E21E-YXws90

    Nov 20, 2021
    Tony Heller
    The left is very upset that their second attempt to lynch Kyle Rittenhouse based on his race has again failed.

  27. Nelson_Kidd-Players Avatar

    Media is here. Ruskin just passed me…

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  28. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    From the Malcolm Gruinaid..

    I’m told the anti-fascist counter-rally is moving down Swanston Street now from Carlton.

    So the anti-fascists are the ones pro segregation, punishment of the noncopliant and the Victorian enabling act..?

    What maroons.

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  29. HD Avatar
    HD

    Looks like YouTube…the like…and our most benevolent Telstra have been playing funny buggers this morning. Live streams “switching” in and out of private status as well as dropping out in the case of the former.

    More pathetic bullshit from TPTB. All the urgent Sydney trainline trackwork that had to be done at short notice. Now I at least and apparently from the various live feed comments, am supposed to believe that because the physical/ spatial distribution of people using internet/ wireless services may be a little different on days like today versus others, and the network can’t keep up? When the masses of people are in locations where the highest functioning telecommunication system/ traffic nodes are? Useless C*nts!

  30. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Melbourne media legend, Rukshan!

    https://imgur.com/gallery/IFzAPlP

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  31. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    How to run the Earth from solar power, from my former colleague:

    Big system idea:
    Batteries are still a problem for major solar power storage.
    I hear there is talk of a solar farm at Tennant ck to supply power to Indonesia.
    Think bigger:
    How about a BIG power grid, several power lines running from North To South poles with big solar arrays at each pole, so feeding power from the summer to the winter end. Pick off power for each country as needed. Also need latitudinal connections to feed power from day side to night side across continents from arrays anywhere convenient on continents. The coverage should then be 24 hours everywhere, and even local weather systems should not matter much.

    I’m sure there will be a few minor engineering problems to iron out. Eat your heart out Cannon -Brookes.

  32. Mater Avatar
    Mater

    David Limbrick down here. Just walked past.

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  33. Winston Smith Avatar

    Bespoke:

    However far left telegram channels also indicate a bunch of lefties are going to join the freedom protest to start violence to lend support to Dan’s bill

    Often wonder about the thinking behind this, rosie. It proves nothing.

    Take your cameras, make piccies of the shit stirrers. Identify them and dox the pricks. Use their weapons against them.

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  34. srr Avatar
    srr

    Bill Whittle explains the importance of the Kyle Rittenhouse Verdict –

    Not Guilty on All Counts

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0Nl1rE6Y8c

    Nov 20, 2021
    Bill Whittle
    Sometimes it’s the newest Americans who have the freshest take on what it means to live here.

  35. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    Awfulk people.
    The worst.
    Believe me.
    ….
    Stephanie Convery Stephanie Convery
    The rally out front of parliament is moving now, heading down Bourke Street, to chants of “Kill the bill”, “Sack Dan Andrews” and “Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi Oi Oi”.

    This anti-bill rally is huge. People are packed in from Parliament to past Swanston Street now. I’ve seen a lot of protests but I’ve never seen this many people at a rightwing rally in Melbourne.

    To give you a bit of a flavour of this protest, here are some of the slogans I can see from my current vantage point:

    Dan Andrews is the #1 enemy of the state
    You divide, We Unite
    Permaculture: local solutions to global problems
    Mandates are keeping families apart
    Silence is compliance
    No jab, no job, no way
    Dan is an Illuminati puppet
    No vax passports
    It is not OK to grant unchecked power to government

    The crowd is composed of a cross-section of ages – lots of families – though it is mostly caucasian as far as I can see. A few masks on, not many.

    The rally at Trades Hall is on the move now, heading towards the city.


    The front of the anti-bill rally is all the way up at Flagstaff Gardens now, which, for anyone who isn’t particularly familiar with Melbourne’s layout, means they’ve crossed almost the entire CBD. When I left Russell Street not long ago, people were still streaming down from Parliament.

    There are thousands of people here.

    There is a lot of nationalism on display. Not just the Australian flags, which are everywhere, but I’ve also seen flags and scarves from Poland, France and Greece.

    I’ve also seen a rainbow flag and an Aboriginal flag. Politically, it all feels completely topsy turvy.

    peeches have started at Flagstaff Gardens. Right wing pundit Morgan C Jonas leads chants of “kill the bill” before claiming this is the biggest protest in Australian history (it isn’t, anti-war protests, climate protests and union marches in Melbourne over the last two decades have drawn equal or bigger crowds).

    He’s also claiming credit on behalf of the movement for the pandemic legislation bill being delayed in Victorian state parliament this week and expressed admiration for Adem Somyurek, who he says “will not sell out”.

    “Are we willing to go to the absolute end?” Jonas says, and the crowd cheers.

    “Is it fair to say that we will go to any length necessary to rid our parliament of those traitorous politicians?” More cheers.

    “There is no doubt in my mind that we are winning.”

    The dissonance is hurting some of the #stand with dan people. “Everyone is NAZI!!!” is impossible to sustain.

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  36. Bons Avatar

    Yep, G’luck 123.
    Are you onto the peas yet?
    My brother in SA had his hurt severely by frost but the benign season has given him a crop. All they have to do is get it off.
    Idiot profession.

  37. incoherent rambler Avatar
    incoherent rambler

    Who coined “Cognac Dissidents”?

  38. Mater Avatar
    Mater

    Avi just walked past. This is attracting all the right people!

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  39. Winston Smith Avatar

    Feelthebern:
    I know I’m a dinosaur, but how does the Strategic Arms Limitation Talks benefit the Democrats?

  40. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Just shook Avi’s hand! Another Melbourne Media legend!

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  41. Nelson_Kidd-Players Avatar

    You must be in the hotspot, Mater. I’ve retreated to William Street!

  42. northshore redneck Avatar
    northshore redneck

    fantastic diverse crowd in Sydney, everyone was friendly and enjoying the comrade.

    Aussie cossack a big hit with the crowd as was Craig Kelly.

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  43. Mater Avatar
    Mater

    You must be in the hotspot, Mater. I’ve retreated to William Street!

    Just into the grassed area on Cnr Williams and Latrobe St.

  44. Nelson_Kidd-Players Avatar

    I’ve probably passed you, LOL!

  45. Nelson_Kidd-Players Avatar

    Perhaps i need a t-shirt with the Çat banner picture across the chest. Available via Dover’s affiliate link?

  46. calli Avatar
    calli

    My Google map tells me Flagstaff is “busy as it gets”. 😉

  47. P Avatar
    P

    rickwsays:
    November 20, 2021 at 2:16 pm

    Melbourne media legend, Rukshan!

    I watched the excellent live coverage by Rukshan. Camera showed several angles of the lady in the hat with the denim coloured (or blue/grey) brim, navy band and white top. She had a beautiful face. Probably the only face I shall remember.

  48. Twostix Avatar
    Twostix

    Brisbane protest checking in.

    Solid

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  49. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    The Omega variant will not effect Dan voters.

    Ripper pop culture reference Inco! We need a Charlton Heston.

  50. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    Bons says:
    November 20, 2021 at 2:26 pm
    Yep, G’luck 123.
    Are you onto the peas yet?
    My brother in SA had his hurt severely by frost but the benign season has given him a crop. All they have to do is get it off.
    Idiot profession.

    The cool weather continues in the Wimmera.
    Canola to come down this week but the barley has so many green heads coming up from small tillers it’s a wait or windrow game.
    Wheat is a Christmas job at this stage and the lentils are green and just starting to show turn.
    We’ll roll up some pasture sown to oats in resistant ryegrass paddocks. Cheap and cheerful.
    Backed into a power pole in the ute this morning, don’t ask.

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  51. Vicki Avatar
    Vicki

    I watched the excellent live coverage by Rukshan

    Damn it! I can’t get it on any links I have seen! Any suggestions?

  52. Vicki Avatar
    Vicki

    Backed into a power pole in the ute this morning, don’t ask.

    Our ute now going (Toyota gas/petrol) after having start & idle problems for yonks. Husband pulled head off finally & had new valves, and head serviced in Sydney. Goes like a top. At last – was driving everyone crazy who drove it. No one could diagnose the problem – including Toyota.

  53. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    Backed into a power pole in the ute this morning, don’t ask.

    If you are still able to type about it and the lights are still on, no harm no foul! 😀

  54. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    I know I’m a dinosaur, but how does the Strategic Arms Limitation Talks benefit the Democrats?

    Winston, the SALT thing is so totally hypocritical that even Bernie is sounding off about it. And his guys are basically running Joe. But the SALT thing is Pelosi not Joe.

    Bernie Sanders Rips Nancy Pelosi Over Dem ‘Hypocrisy’ On Proposed Tax Break For The Rich (19 Nov)

    Breathtaking, especially since this is from PuffHo.

  55. Nelson_Kidd-Players Avatar

    Pole got in my way the other day. Not was he cranky!

  56. Megan Avatar
    Megan

    Excellent turnout in Melbourne. Had a couple of great escorts in Mater and rickw. Thanks for getting us off the couch and out to be counted.

    Despite the headline on the Hun website we failed to identify a single counter protester.

    Overhead cop on crossing duty say to colleague that it was bigger than last week. Well done, Melbourne marchers, you were brilliant!

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  57. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    Despite the headline on the Hun website we failed to identify a single counter protester.

    The Malcolm Gruinaid mentioned there were only about 300 counter protesters…

    So you can halve that for a closer figure (the pic they had of the group was taken very close in, a sure indicator of bugger all there)

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  58. Nelson_Kidd-Players Avatar

    Well done all. Good to hear you made it, even if we didn’t meet. My Çat-in-person-o-meter is stalled at a very low count!

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  59. Indolent Avatar
    Indolent

    Martin Geddes

    The Saviours of Humanity

    This is about transhumanism. It’s not the first time of heard about it and it is truly terrifying. Possibly more so than anything else we’ve faced.

  60. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    The geriatric Buttrose slag is certainly doing a good job trashing what credibility she may have once had.

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  61. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    Winston, the SALT thing is so totally hypocritical that even Bernie is sounding off about it. And his guys are basically running Joe. But the SALT thing is Pelosi not Joe

    A House (snerk) divided against itself cannot stand.

    Let alone a Senate…

  62. Twostix Avatar
    Twostix

    Brisbane massive

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  63. Diogenes Avatar
    Diogenes

    Brisbane massive

    Couldn’t see it, but we can hear it over at Southbank.

  64. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Backed into a power pole in the ute this morning, don’t ask.

    Salubrious nest box tree decided to shed a foot thick branch after midnight, which managed to miss everything except my letter box. Kerrrash! Very dead letterbox was a metre behind heronmobile, which escaped unscathed to the amazement of everyone. So out I go. Part of the branch has landed on electricity feeder and torn it out of front of house. Or more accurately torn off the front of the house…without actually severing electricity supply (go figure). None of the clip thingies worked.

    So out I go to with torch to look at the carnage, and neighbour arrives with chainsaw. He’s a fine neighbour! A steelwukka. We remove half a tree from the driveway and I back the car out…straight into the power pole just across the road. Some days it pays not to get up in the morning. But the well accoutered penthouse has a young resident right now and the parents are bringing all sorts of unfortunate creature to feed it. Tree-from-hell-with-nestbox got a 3000 dollar seeing to but still lives, just.

  65. Diogenes Avatar
    Diogenes

    Apologies accidentally reported your comment instead of upthumbing Twostix. Dover please ignore

  66. Winston Smith Avatar

    Grey Ranga:

    I sincerely hope Kyle goes after every single one of his false accusers, not just the networks but personally and destroys their lives as they tried to destroy his.

    What would be amusing is if he succeeded in suing the pants off all his defamers, and he became a Billionaire who bought one of the big newsies like CNN, sacked everyone and replaced them with his own choice of editors and journos.
    Or just bulldozed the bloody lot.

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  67. Kneel Avatar
    Kneel

    “It’d all they have. White shoots whites attacking him. Clearly waaayysist!”

    Most amusing to me was “There’s only one black person on the jury – racism. We want equity!”
    Because Kenosha is 90% white, so out of a jury of 12 randomly selected people, 4 times out of 5 you’d expect just one black person (and the other time 2).

  68. Mater Avatar
    Mater

    The Antifa thugs are hanging around the State library picking off line protesters going home.

  69. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

    The Antifa thugs are hanging around the State library picking off line protesters going home.

    Huh?… “picking them off”… please elaborate.

    Is this like past protests, where anybody caught on their own afterward was given a good kicking by Antifa?

  70. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Backed into a power pole in the ute this morning, don’t ask.

    Isn’t this the mark of a real Ute?

  71. Timothy Neilson Avatar
    Timothy Neilson

    The crowd is composed of a cross-section of ages – lots of families – though it is mostly caucasian as far as I can see.

    The population is mainly caucasian.
    And how does she know that they aren’t indigenous, like the plaintiffs in Eatock v Bolt?

    I noticed more south east asians last week than this week, but more subcontinentals this week. Probably just the vagaries of where I happened to be.

  72. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    The Antifa thugs are hanging around the State library picking off line protesters going home.

    Where’s Kyle when you need him?

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  73. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    The Antifa thugs are hanging around the State library picking off line protesters going home.

    And why didn’t we leave via the state library?!?

  74. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    cohenitesays:
    November 20, 2021 at 3:25 pm
    Hollywood scumbags react to Rittenhouse verdict:

    “Actors generally are stupid people.” Anthony Hopkins.

  75. Aaron Avatar
    Aaron

    “Apparently there’s a new variant of this covid stuff that’s a “ new symptomless variant”.

    Maybe not so new, considering how many people have compulsory tested because they were in the same state as a Covid victim.

    Thousands probably got the shock of their life when told they were positive.

  76. Gab Avatar
    Gab

    Melbourne today. Small mob of ferals pretending to protest anti-racism and pro-vaxx and anti-Right abuse Rukshan – a man of colour – at Trades Hall. This mob is endorsed by Samantha Ratnam and Fiona Patten. https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=watch_permalink&v=222822409982566

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  77. Tintarella di Luna Avatar
    Tintarella di Luna

    Have just returned from the Sydney Protest Rally – absolutely awesome I am so glad I went — the crows was remarkable in its size, determination, DIVERSITY, politeness and friendliness and co-operation. I was there with unvaxxed friends and their 35 year old son who is in a wheelchair, the kindness shown us by the crowd was exemplary in patients and kindness.

    I was hoping to CATch up with some Cats but it was not to be but I know they were there, salutations – what an experience of a lifetime.

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  78. Runnybum Avatar
    Runnybum

    Are biggles & JC leading the charge there in Melbournistan?
    Two of the most radical people ever.

  79. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Kyle Rittenhouse Not Guilty Verdict Breaks Hollywood: ‘I Weep for This Country’

    Never heard of any of the “Hollywood celebrities!”

  80. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    rickw says:
    November 20, 2021 at 3:31 pm
    Backed into a power pole in the ute this morning, don’t ask.

    Isn’t this the mark of a real Ute?

    Nah. Just a stupid bugger who rolled back down the dam bank and turned the wheel just enough to catch the pole. Tub ute for maximum damage. A tray ute would hardly have shown a mark or a quick belt with a rubber mallet to fix.
    That’s what insurance is for, though it’s not my first effort at reverse engineering.

  81. Diogenes Avatar
    Diogenes

    On the train home. You could hear the roar at Roma Street. Listening to some of the conversation around me people are swapping protest stories. For many (@ 1/3) this was their first, for about half, this was their first since protesting Johs anti demonstration laws or anti apartheid when Hawke was still PM, the last anybody spoke about were at the anti Iraq War rallies.

    I wonder if the Qld govt will realise the depth of feeling out there.

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  82. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

    Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
    November 20, 2021 at 3:52 pm

    Kyle Rittenhouse Not Guilty Verdict Breaks Hollywood: ‘I Weep for This Country’

    Never heard of any of the “Hollywood celebrities!”

    Of the ones mentioned, I know who Bette Midler & Stephen King are (though strictly speaking, King ain’t a “Hollywood” sleb)
    Alyssa Milano I’ve heard of, but couldn’t say what she’s known for.
    Viola Davis is in a few Tom Selleck movies, & used to be super-bangable, that may have changed as she’s obviously an unhappy dumbass & won’t be getting any younger smoother or slimmer as years go by.

  83. Megan Avatar
    Megan

    My Çat-in-person-o-meter is stalled at a very low count!

    Sorry we missed you. Cat identifier for large crowds is definitely required.

  84. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    Alyssa Milano I’ve heard of, but couldn’t say what she’s known for.

    Was in some TV series about 20 years ago about young witches in present day San Francisco.

  85. Megan Avatar
    Megan

    The Antifa thugs are hanging around the State library picking off line protesters going home.

    Predictably gutless. The crowd would have rolled straight over the top of them, smiling all the while.

  86. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    Alyssa Milano.
    Nowadays a complete loon.

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