Open Thread – Mon 22 Nov 2021


Delacroix, Barque of Dante, 1822

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Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 25, 2021 9:13 am

Aboriginal tribal leaders speak about the forced vaccinations.

Gab, that is the same tweet Indolent posted earlier. It’s horseshit. See above. Cole is not a tribal leader, and has been denounced as such by both the indig organisations and those actually in the communities.

I love love love your commitment, but furthering the cause of this self-interested pocket-liner using vax mandates as a cloak for his own purposes does nobody any favours.

I forgot to mention earlier that Mr Cole’s daughter, the well-paid NT public servant is his most ardent admirer.

Indolent
Indolent
November 25, 2021 9:14 am

Some people should hang their heads in shame.

How about you?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 25, 2021 9:14 am

Snap Muz.

Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 9:16 am

rosiesays:
November 25, 2021 at 9:13 am
I’m absolutely in favour of those not wishing to be vaccinated not doing so, Razey, all medications involve risks of side effects.

Just don’t pretend to hold the high moral ground when you knowingly repeat lies.

‘Government’ routinely lies and gets away with it. They set the example, so fuck them all. They have sown the seeds. Anarchy and chaos are inevitable.

rosie
rosie
November 25, 2021 9:20 am

How about you indolent?
Constant spamming the cat from sites rational people find cringeworthy.

Gab
Gab
November 25, 2021 9:20 am

Increase in Defence personnel in Katherine
The number of Australian Defence Force personnel in Katherine more than tripled as a response to the worsening Covid situation.
An increase in emergency services numbers has been deployed to the region, with Australian Defence Force personnel being boosted by 85 increasing from 40 to 125 personnel overnight.

Defence manpower has been used across a series of police and health Covid initiatives.

Up to 40 defence personnel are supporting quarantine compliance monitoring at the Centre for National Resilience in Howard Springs and Bladin Village.

Move along, nothing to see here.

Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 9:21 am

Yeah. I’m as mad as a cut snake at the moment. I want labor, Liberal, Greens chucked into the dustbin of history.

Gab
Gab
November 25, 2021 9:21 am

It’s horseshit.

Is it? Why? Because the main stream media isn’t reporting it? Because some bloke says it ain’t so? Oh, okay.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 25, 2021 9:22 am
Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 9:28 am

Gabsays:
November 25, 2021 at 9:21 am
It’s horseshit.

Is it? Why? Because the main stream media isn’t reporting it? Because some bloke says it ain’t so? Oh, okay.

Even if it is a lie, its no worse the utter BS fearmongering the MSM throw us every day.

Any kind of shit storm means less control of the narrative the scumbags have.

miltonf
miltonf
November 25, 2021 9:28 am

I think the lieboral leadership has been fully on board with the globalist project since Fraser.

Arky
November 25, 2021 9:29 am

At current consumption levels, the equivalent of almost three planets would be required to sustain a world of 9.6 billion by 2050.

..
This is the same calculation demographers made in the 1920s and 1930s for the “carrying capacity” of Europe. It was this “science” that gave the justification for the murder of tens of millions.
People are not livestock.
The planet is not a farm belonging solely to the wealthy.
We do not belong to you.
Humans, unlike sheep, are able to influence their own destiny and change their circumstances to improve efficiencies, create new resources from things that were previously not.
People are not livestock.
Calculations of carrying capacity do not apply to humans.

Gab
Gab
November 25, 2021 9:30 am

Australia is preparing to debut its version of the Chinese regime’s high-tech system for monitoring and controlling its citizens. The launch, to take place in the northern city of Darwin, will include systems to monitor people’s activity via their cell phones.

The new system is based on monitoring programs in Shenzhen, China, where the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) is testing its Social Credit System. Officials on the Darwin council traveled to Shenzhen, according to NT News, to “have a chance to see exactly how their Smart Technology works prior to being fully rolled out.”

In Darwin, they’ve already constructed “poles, fitted with speakers, cameras and Wi-Fi,” according to NT News, to monitor people, their movements around the city, the websites they visit, and what apps they use. The monitoring will be done mainly by artificial intelligence, but will alert authorities based on set triggers.

Just as in China, the surveillance system is being branded as a “smart city” program, and while Australian officials claim its operations are benign, they’ve announced it functions to monitor cell phone activity and “virtual fences” that will trigger alerts if people cross them.

“We’ll be getting sent an alarm saying, ‘There’s a person in this area that you’ve put a virtual fence around.’ … Boom, an alert goes out to whatever authority, whether it’s us or police to say ‘look at camera five,’” said Josh Sattler, the Darwin council’s general manager for innovation, growth, and development services, according to NT News.

The nature of the “virtual fences” and what type of activity will sound an alarm still isn’t being made clear.

I’m sure this is all just innocent and nothing bad will come of it.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 25, 2021 9:30 am

I sense a disturbance in the force.
Fordham: Wear a mask, don’t wear a mask, should be a matter of individual choice.
An hour later:
The Dapto Dogs Caller: I’m double pricked yet vulnerable, everyone should be masked.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 25, 2021 9:32 am

Everyone takes a break from here sometimes. It doesn’t mean they’re dead.

They are dead to me.

Dot
Dot
November 25, 2021 9:35 am

People are not livestock.
Calculations of carrying capacity do not apply to humans.

Yes, they also need to read The Ultimate Resource I & II. Commodities have never been more abundant.

How much of the crust have we actually efficiently mined?

Far, far less than 0.5%.

We will never run out of resources.

Shortages are a choice!

Dot
Dot
November 25, 2021 9:37 am

What these vax’d dummies fail to comprehend is that it simply doesn’t work.

If it worked, then Gibraltar wouldn’t be going into lockdowns again, 100% vax rate.

LOL

THIS NEEDS TO PLASTERED EVERYWHERE

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 25, 2021 9:39 am

Wait till you hear him on Aboriginal history and his love affair with Pascoe.

I have seen that thing where the guy claims that Aristotle stole his ideas from Africans. This despite the facts:

> Aristotles writings are found across the classical world, but the supposed source materials are nowhere to be found – Alexandria’s was merely one library, arguably the most extensive, but not the only one.

> There was only a small period of overlap between Aristotle’s lifetime and the Library, yet Aristotle was a famous practicing philosopher for longer.

> The questions Aristotle addressed can be traced back before the Library was built, and the questions were posed by people who had died long before Alexander was even born, to the Ionic Greeks in Asia Minor. The political and social events which supply the background for the lines of enquiry are there, going back even to Hesiod, in whose Theogony poetry and philosophy were visible but yet so separate out. There is no evidence for any such tradition or explicable origin in Africa.

> The tradition which, as stated above began in Asia Minor, flourished in Mainland Greece and surrounding islands, but was not found between there and Africa. If anything I would expect the tradition was influenced by the Persians further east.

And although not explicitly stated in the text that triggered the above ramblings, I get the feeling it is arguing that this antecedent philosophy came from sub-Saharan Africa. So in the case of the fellow involved, it would be claiming an achievement of his ancestors as opposed to and at the expense of (an inevitable interpolation in the current climate) White people.

There seems to be a lot of this re-writing ancient history going on.

I saw something on the ‘suggestions’ list that appears to the right of what you are viewing which raised my eyebrows. It seems to be a video asserting that Chinese civilisation has Black roots.

Figurative roots, and synecdochally Black, and geographically the civilisation, I mean. Literally of course you could claim it is true.

miltonf
miltonf
November 25, 2021 9:40 am

So am I correct understanding that the Vicco lieborals are now working with the ALP to give permanent dictatorial powers to the premier?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 25, 2021 9:42 am

can I please have the link to the Lame Pics?
Ideally the one that has a list of them all

EvilElvis
EvilElvis
November 25, 2021 9:42 am

Someone splash some water on Rosie’s tyres, the circle work is cranking up!

HD
HD
November 25, 2021 9:43 am

And the jabs were to set people free once again. What a memorable one this schoolies will be for these guests.

Really is getting up on time for “lockdown” of the third and fourth tier intellects that have led the country into this public health, social and economic disaster.

Mater
November 25, 2021 9:43 am

I notice that the ever preachy Christie Swan wasn’t on her regular morning radio show. She LOVES bad mouthing protestors on her show.

Guess what? She’s in isolation, she’s got Covid.

Guess what also? She’s righteously (and vocally) doubled vaxxed.

Apparently she’s been feeling “tired and flat” lately. She must have been listening to her own jokes. They do that to me, too.

Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 9:46 am

miltonfsays:
November 25, 2021 at 9:40 am
So am I correct understanding that the Vicco lieborals are now working with the ALP to give permanent dictatorial powers to the premier?

I’ve said this before. The Liberals are on the take. They will never see power again. The WEF have Victoria fully under control and will be implementing their ‘own nothing and be happy agenda’ here first.

will
will
November 25, 2021 9:47 am

Arbery case result in the U.S

is a travesty of justice, when home owners cannot challenge a black thug who is casing the neighborhood for houses to loot

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 25, 2021 9:52 am

There seems to be a lot of this re-writing ancient history going on.

ML – How can you not know that Amerindians cured cancer well before that imperialist Italian arrived?

Heap Big Medicine Man (21 Nov)

A Lakehead University professor and her research team in partnership with traditional knowledge holders and Waasegiizhig Nanaandawe’iyewigamig Health Access Centre (WNHAC) are receiving $1.2 million in CIHR funding to explore the efficacy of using traditional healing to prevent cancer.
***
This project will implement traditional healing activities to address the impacts of colonialism in WNHAC’s service area. It will evaluate the impacts of the intervention through a pre- and post-design that will explore and measure risks and protective factors.

Using an Indigenous mixed methods research approach, this study will privilege Indigenous ways of knowing and doing and tangible outcomes for Indigenous communities through the implementation of medicine camps and traditional health practitioner visits.

Surely in Bruce Pascoe’s sequel we will hear about the aboriginal space program.

Crossie
Crossie
November 25, 2021 9:54 am

Gab says:
November 25, 2021 at 9:03 am
Black Lives Matter don’t care about Aboriginal peoples clearly.

They never did.

Arky
November 25, 2021 9:54 am

It never occurs to these environmentalists that their endless droning worries about the number of humans on the planet is just a reframing of the old demand for liebensraum.

miltonf
miltonf
November 25, 2021 9:57 am

I didn’t even know who the hell chrissie swan was. Just another vacuous meja scold it turns out.

Cassie of Sydney
November 25, 2021 9:57 am

“You sound just like Danny Andrews. Fascistic scum.”

Actually, Rosie doesn’t sound like “Danny Andrews” and she, like everyone else here, isn’t “fascistic scum“.

Oh and whilst we’re on the topic of “fascistic scum”…I’ve never seen Rosie write the words…

“pure bloods”

Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 10:00 am

Cassie of Sydneysays:
November 25, 2021 at 9:57 am
“You sound just like Danny Andrews. Fascistic scum.”

Actually, Rosie doesn’t sound like “Danny Andrews” and she, like everyone else here, isn’t “fascistic scum“.

Oh and whilst we’re on the topic of “fascistic scum”…I’ve never seen Rosie write the words…

“pure bloods”

Sounds like your vax is causing early onset CJD. LOL

Arky
November 25, 2021 10:02 am

We have all the “scientific”, moral and ideological underpinnings in place for a nasty little genocide.
We have the theme no one can argue: “Save the planet”.
We have degraded respect for human life sufficiently.
We have all the little commissars trained.
Do we have an obedient enough population yet?
Maybe.
The only thing left is the dudes with the odd facial hair to spark things off.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 25, 2021 10:02 am

Good god this climate change is wet.
I’ve had 50mm in 24 hours bringing my November rainfall to 118mm.
150% of average for the year, so far.
Not a problem as our crops aren’t ready for harvest though the barley will be feed grade due to staining.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 25, 2021 10:02 am

Guess what? She’s in isolation, she’s got Covid.
Guess what also? She’s righteously (and vocally) doubled vaxxed.

Welcome to endemic disease. Nearly time to forget about it.

Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 10:03 am

Science Journals: Pfizer Covid Vaccine May Cause CJD

LOL.

https://principia-scientific.com/science-journals-pfizer-covid-vaccine-may-cause-cjd/

Zipster
November 25, 2021 10:03 am

A new vaccine designed to specifically create T-cells against Covid produces a better immune response than the alternatives already in use, according to trial data.

The CoVac-1 jab has been developed and made by academics at the University of Tubingen, in Germany.

The cells form part of the immune response to protect people against infections and often work in tandem with antibodies. However, while antibody levels often decline over time and need boosting, T-cells have the ability to stay in the bloodstream for several years.

Evidence is emerging that T-cell levels from vaccines may be key in conferring long-term protection against Covid, but studying the level of them in a person’s system is difficult.

“The induction of SARS-CoV-2 T-cell immunity is a central goal for vaccine development and of particular importance for patients with congenital or acquired B-cell deficiencies,” the researchers wrote in a paper published in Nature. “The latter comprise cancer patients with disease or treatment-related immunoglobulin deficiency.”

we have something that creates t-cells its called an immune system

Cassie of Sydney
November 25, 2021 10:04 am

“Sounds like your vax is causing early onset CJD. LOL”

I don’t think so.

local oaf
November 25, 2021 10:04 am

There was a “shock! horror! teacher won’t turn on classroom AC because climate change” story run yesterday.

What the… classrooms have airconditioning???

In my day, we were allowed to take our ties off if the temp reached 100F

Delta A
Delta A
November 25, 2021 10:05 am

“Defence is aware of social media posts claiming the Australian Defence Force (ADF) is forcibly vaccinating or detaining members of the Australian community. These claims are false,” a Defence spokesperson said.

I admit, I was one who was taken in by the hype.

I retract my criticisms made yesterday.

twostix
twostix
November 25, 2021 10:06 am

Constant spamming the cat from sites rational people find cringeworthy.

Like snopes and factcheck.org?

You’re not a rational person, you just wear faux-rationality like a skin suit, underneath a hysterical covid karen.

We’re in this whole mess because of people like you.

Cassie of Sydney
November 25, 2021 10:08 am

“I admit, I was one who was taken in by the hype.

I retract my criticisms made yesterday.”

You’re an adult DA.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 25, 2021 10:09 am

Using an Indigenous mixed methods research approach, this study will privilege Indigenous ways of knowing and doing and tangible outcomes

So why does it need non-Indigenous resources like money?

That is not sarcasm.

That is going to be the title of my grant application. You can get heap big wampum from shiny-arse paleface.

Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 10:09 am

Furthermore, the spike protein, created by the translation of the vaccine
RNA, binds angiotensin converting enzyme 2 (ACE2), a zinc containing enzyme. This interaction has the potential to increase intracellular zinc. Zinc ions have been shown to cause the transformation of TDP-43 to its pathologic prion configuration. The folding of TDP-43 and FUS into their pathologic prion confirmations is known to cause ALS, front temporal lobar degeneration, Alzheimer’s disease and other neurological degenerative diseases. The
enclosed finding as well as additional potential risks leads the author to believe that regulatory approval of the RNA based vaccines for SARS-CoV-2 was premature and that the vaccine may cause much more harm than benefit.

https://scivisionpub.com/pdfs/covid19-rna-based-vaccines-and-the-risk-of-prion-disease-1503.pdf

calli
calli
November 25, 2021 10:09 am

Just scrolling back…

Is anyone else sick of the seemingly endless torrent of lies coming at them from all directions?

I know I am.

LB
LB
November 25, 2021 10:11 am

Incoherent Rambler
can I please have the link to the Lame Pics?
Ideally the one that has a list of them all


You’re welcome

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 25, 2021 10:14 am

A hot mess which has nothing to do with a LARPer or other related parties.
Only nasty h8rs would view their interest in Girl Guides with suspicion.

Figures
Figures
November 25, 2021 10:14 am

If Cummins wants to walk the talk then he needs to ensure he doesn’t buy any property within 100km of the ocean.

If he does (obviously he has) then it should be compulsorily acquired by the government with $1 compensation.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 25, 2021 10:15 am

Just scrolling back…

There’s yours mistake.

Cassie of Sydney
November 25, 2021 10:15 am

“callisays:
November 25, 2021 at 10:09 am
Just scrolling back…

Is anyone else sick of the seemingly endless torrent of lies coming at them from all directions?

I know I am.”

Yep.

miltonf
miltonf
November 25, 2021 10:16 am

Me too. One thing’s for sure- Australia1 is bad news.

twostix
twostix
November 25, 2021 10:19 am

The army are helping round people up and taking them to the camp as per Gunner’s comments. People in entire towns the NT are banned from leaving their homes for any reason including food.

That’s the story.

They do this every time. They push the envelope to X, which is terrible and new and should be smashed, then suddenly out of the depths of the swamp someone releases a grainy video saying “they’re doing Z!” then everyone jumps ahead of X goes straight to losing their heads over Z. Then the establishment march out smugly and say “Oh you silly fools, we’re only doing X, not Z look at these hysterical people”.

X is then cemented in as mundane and normal, without a fight.

calli
calli
November 25, 2021 10:20 am

It’s relentless, Bear. All for clicks and eyeballs. The grifting from all sides has just overwhelmed me.

Leon’s link at 7:53 provided a window on the thing, albeit incomplete. I understand the utter bemusement and helplessness that some are feeling right now. And it’s deliberate, of that I have no doubt.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 25, 2021 10:21 am

Antone waiting for ‘ooman rites to gallop over the horizon and slay the mandates…

yeah, nah.
Whole sharticle.

Rising Covid vaccination rates reduce need for mandates, new human rights commissioner says
Lorraine Finlay says Australia should prepare for a ‘future emergency’ by ensuring human rights are ‘at the core’ of its response

Not a great sign when her first priority is to excuse the shit oppressing people.

Rising vaccination rates reduce the need for jab mandates, and “broad-based, blanket” public health orders that raise “human rights issues”, the incoming human rights commissioner has said.

Lorraine Finlay made the comments to Guardian Australia in an interview defending governments’ ability to require vaccinations in the interests of public health but arguing Australia should prepare for a “future emergency” by ensuring human rights are “at the core” of its response.

Finlay was appointed to the Australian Human Rights Commission in September, with her selection criticised for the lack of a competitive process. Critics have also pointed to her Liberal party links, and her outspoken views on an Indigenous voice to parliament, affirmative consent laws, and section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act.

The commencement of her five-year term on Monday comes as the government fights a growing rebellion in its own ranks, five Coalition senators siding with One Nation to seek to override state health orders that require or incentivise vaccines with extra freedoms for the vaccinated.

Finlay told Guardian Australia that “vaccine mandates do engage human rights issues” but Australians must also think about their “responsibilities and the way your choices affect the rights and choices of others”, including public health.
..
Finlay said vaccinations were “an important public health measure” and she would like to see “as many people as possible choosing to be vaccinated”.

“Where governments do introduce vaccine mandates, and they are able to limit rights to protect public health … it’s really important they are justified, non-discriminatory and proportionate.”

Finlay said health orders must be “tailored to risk rather than broad-based, blanket approaches”.

“As vaccination rates go up the need for mandates changes because the proportionality calculations change.”

Finlay said vaccine mandates were “not entirely new”, citing the “no jab, no play” provisions requiring vaccination for childcare and for flu jabs to visit residents of aged care.

Finlay – who has argued the pandemic response has caused a “significant restriction of individual freedoms” in an essay for the Institute of Public Affairs’ Centre for the Australian Way of Life – said these measures were designed “quickly” to respond to a public health emergency.

“I understand that that has to be the priority but now that we’re starting along the road of post-pandemic recovery it’s really important to reflect on the measures we’ve introduced and learn the lessons we need to learn and to set up a framework for any future emergency … that put rights at the core.

“Even in an emergency, human rights matter.”
Finlay cited border closures separating families and “people who lost businesses due to the economic impact” as examples of the “direct and tangible” impact of the pandemic on rights.

She said the federal government’s international border closure and the India travel ban had “human rights impacts and engage our international responsibilities”.

Finlay did not back away from her personal views expressed before taking the human rights commissioner role.

In a 2018 submission to the Ruddock religious freedom review Finlay argued there was an “unjustifiable imbalance” in Australian law against religious freedom in favour of other anti-discrimination laws, but that this was not best remedied by a Religious Freedom Act.

Finlay told Guardian Australia her personal view on that and her proposal for a right to conscientiously object to “knowingly and materially contributing” to a same-sex marriage ceremony had not changed.

“My personal views remain the same but my role has changed,” she said, promising to take into account “a broad range of perspectives”.

“The role of the human rights commissioner isn’t a personal soapbox for my views … it’s about trying to bring people together, take into account different perspectives, [and] weigh up a variety of different interests.”

Asked about her advocacy against section 18C, which bans speech that offends, insults or humiliates people based on race, and is overseen by the AHRC, Finlay said it was “entirely appropriate to have a human rights commissioner that thinks freedom of speech is fundamentally important”.

Finlay said she wouldn’t be handling 18C complaints and having “different experience and perspectives is something that adds value to the work the commission does”.

Asked to identify the biggest threats to freedom of speech, Finlay nominated the impact of big technology and social media companies regulating online speech and academic freedom on university campuses.

Finlay has cited tackling human trafficking and modern slavery as priorities for her, including input into the three-year review of the Modern Slavery Act.

On Wednesday, Finlay defended her public commentary opposing affirmative consent laws and appearing in an IPA ad attacking the Indigenous voice to parliament proposal.

In it, she described a voice as “patronising” and “a form of political segregation” because it implied that Indigenous Australians were “only allowed to play a certain prescribed role in the Australian democracy”.

Finlay, a former Liberal candidate in Western Australia and president of its women’s council, told Radio National her past political involvement “doesn’t qualify me for the role but it also isn’t a disqualification for the role”.

Finlay said the AHRC is an “independent apolitical statutory agency”. As a commissioner she is “not a politician, it’s not a political role” and she would uphold the commission’s independence, she said.

Asked about the lack of competitive appointment, Finlay said it was a “matter for government” and she was “honoured” to be appointed.

rosie
rosie
November 25, 2021 10:21 am

More lies and idiocy from the Queensland gaslighting liar whom I was absolutely certain would pop out from under his bridge to have a go at me, the author of all that is wrong in the world today.
Yes I post Snopes several times a day, or something.
And since when is ‘factchecking’ nonsense like giraffes killed by covid vaccines a crime against humanity?
In the meantime you are perfectly happy with the egregious nonsense that indolent shares, repeatedly.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 25, 2021 10:23 am

There was a “shock! horror! teacher won’t turn on classroom AC because climate change” story run yesterday.

In all fairness and not knowing the particulars in this instance, depends on whether the classrooms were designed to rely on aircon.

One of the schools I attended as a kid was a great big three storey redbrick thing. The classrooms has big windows along the long walls except the ones at the end where they were on three sides. The rooms could be stuffy on hot still days, but generally they were not bad.

But as the school grew they got demountables. Baking in the sun, hammered by heat on 5 out of 6 surfaces, minimal insulation, and with low ceilings, I was glad I did not have classes in them.

As I recall the only time I was overcome by heat-induced lethargy at school was when I came back into the cooler classroom after playing touch footy for 45 minutes in 35 degree heat during lunch.

Crossie
Crossie
November 25, 2021 10:24 am

Guess what also? She’s righteously (and vocally) doubled vaxxed.

Apparently she’s been feeling “tired and flat” lately. She must have been listening to her own jokes. They do that to me, too.

So the story goes that if you are vaccinated you will not be as affected even if infected. How do we know that if nobody is allowed to even question it let alone study it?

Figures
Figures
November 25, 2021 10:24 am

Can someone please explain to me why in all the thousands of years of virtue signalling wrecking every chance at civilisation, nobody on the Right has ever once thought of simply calling the Left’s bluff?

All it takes is for ScoMo to just get the 20 most dangerous “refugees” he can find and tell a prominent Lefty that he has to shelter them in his home rent free and we would never once hear a peep from anybody about refugee advocacy again.

Nobody would have any sympathy for the prominent Lefty – after all, he asked for precisely this very thing – and even if they did, they would be too scared to show any solidarity with him because they wouldn’t be too keen to house 20 dangerous “refugees” either.

Of course, the prominent Lefty might argue his case in the courts, but with ScoMo promising that judges aren’t immune to the same “be careful what you wish for” treatment he isn’t going to win.

I think DeSantis has cottoned onto this. Trump won’t. He’s a good guy but he thinks that most other people are good too – despite all evidence to the contrary.

twostix
twostix
November 25, 2021 10:33 am

Notafan, shoosh. You have no credibility ,you’ve been the site’s m0nty before since m0nty left.

Bushkid
Bushkid
November 25, 2021 10:41 am

Indolent says:
November 25, 2021 at 7:43 am
This was under the Joe Garra link.

Forced vaccinations – third confirmatio

n

Worth watching, and particularly disturbing is the remark about “foreign” police and military being involved. It may be a case of there being racial diversity in the forces, but still in the current situation worth keeping in mind.

Diogenes
Diogenes
November 25, 2021 10:44 am

In all fairness and not knowing the particulars in this instance, depends on whether the classrooms were designed to rely on aircon.

The Qld govt has a program to install AC in all schools. The outside temp was said to be 35c. I have been hawking my resume around local schools anything built since 2000 definitely needs AC, fans and open windows just do not cut.

As I said in my post, idk if a true believer or wanted to teach a lesson about consequences, either way works as a salutory lesson.

struth
struth
November 25, 2021 10:47 am

Notafan has decided to go in balls and all, as a propaganda machine for the global socialist government.
Complete Karen.
Yes the government of the NT, along with help from the army , are forcing aboriginal people to take the jab.
We are all being forced to take a jab.
However, That freak of a CM, Gunner ADMITTED that the army are relocating aboriginal people to Howard Springs.
The ARMY.
His words,k not mine.
They can’t even go to the shops for food, and are being forceably detained in their communities by the AUSTRALIAN ARMY.

According to the ever Karen-ing”twist the truth” notafan, if they aren’t holding them down and jabbing them, it’s all ok.
Really.
And so it scoffs.
This delusional denialism and excuse making from hysterical women will be the death of this nation.
I hope people can see the difference between her and somebody like KD, who as an ex cop, still refuses to see the forest for the trees for different reasons.
He’s been trained to think the civilian population are all loons except for the pragmatic, common sense police officer.
Trained in common sense is wot they are.
Vicpol shows us this daily.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 25, 2021 10:49 am

Figures – The wet right obsesses about moving to the Overton centre. But that no longer exists. The Left has no such obsession – they just use force and coercion to get what they want, and if the electorate won’t support them they just steal elections.

The problem is one side upholds the rule of law and the other side doesn’t – “whatever it takes” a gutless lefty said once.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 25, 2021 10:51 am

It seems to be a video asserting that Chinese civilisation has Black roots.

We all came out of Africa. Those black bloke’s ancestors threw my ancestors out of Africa around eighty thousand years ago, probably for holding rowdy parties.

Gab
Gab
November 25, 2021 10:53 am

“When God is out of the equation and hell is banned from the public imagination, catastrophic climate change fills the gap as the current fear, and many are reluctant to concede that we are powerless in the face of the millennial patterns of climate change,” he asserts.

“But many neo-pagans do finish up fearing something which is not too demanding on them personally,” he suggests. “An atomic war has been replaced by the hypothesis of damaging climate change. It doesn’t seem to matter that even if we did know cause and effect accurately in the climate world, we in Australia could do nothing to change any end result.”

“I am not sure how many community leaders, including the politicians, know the basics of the history and science of climate change, understand the uncertainty of the diagnoses and the uselessness of the proposed remedies,” the cardinal states.

“The average world temperature has been increasing in fits, starts, and stops since the Little Ice Age and over the last two hundred years,” he observes. “No computer model so far has predicted accurately future temperature changes or patterns.”

“Billions of dollars are expended on the climate change academic-industrial complex, one of the most expensive follies in history,” he continues. “Somehow it is symbolic that children are not being led up the garden path by the Pied Piper; rather, gullible or cynical adults are being led by a sixteen- year-old girl.”

“What cost increases for electricity, how many power blackouts will be needed before this madness is curbed?” he asks. “The pagan Greeks were onto something when they claimed that those whom the gods wanted to destroy they first made mad.”

https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2021/11/23/cardinal-george-pell-denounces-madness-of-climate-change-fanaticism/

struth
struth
November 25, 2021 10:53 am

You can’t get much more of a Nazi attitude than Frau Notafan dismissing all information posted if it hasn’t come from ze official government zourzes!
Heil!

cohenite
November 25, 2021 10:55 am

P J Watson on the Waukesha bastard, the even worse msm and leftie bastards including the whitehouse bastards and how this destroys their blm bullshit (short 5 minutes):

https://choiceclips.whatfinger.com/2021/11/24/the-truth-about-the-christmas-parade-killer-pj-watson/

Roger
Roger
November 25, 2021 10:56 am

Is anyone else sick of the seemingly endless torrent of lies coming at them from all directions?

I know I am.

As the well known anti-postmodernist philosopher Stephen King (yes, that one) said, the trust of the innocent is the liar’s most useful tool.

We’ve seen a lot of such exploitation of the innocent over the last 18 months, the worst examples from government health officials and politicians who are meant to serve the common good.

Franx
Franx
November 25, 2021 10:58 am

Transferring, or removing, people who are positive and their close contacts to a quarantine centre ( one that is a health spa of sorts, having springs, it seems) can only be promising.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 25, 2021 11:01 am

local oaf

In my day, we were allowed to take our ties off if the temp reached 100F

Bunch of wimps!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 25, 2021 11:02 am

We all came out of Africa. Those black bloke’s ancestors threw my ancestors out of Africa around eighty thousand years ago, probably for holding rowdy parties.

Compensation time!

Crossie
Crossie
November 25, 2021 11:02 am

Newly-released video from the Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol display appears to show U.S. Capitol police kicking 34-year-old Rosanne Boyland to death.

More proof that whatever authorities tell you must be questioned and proof demanded.

Bushkid
Bushkid
November 25, 2021 11:02 am

Indolent says:
November 25, 2021 at 10:21 am
A Phone Call to the Northern Territory Administrator AFTER they started FORCE VAXING people in the town of Katherine this morning.

Worth re-posting!

miltonf
miltonf
November 25, 2021 11:04 am

Newly-released video from the Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol display appears to show U.S. Capitol police kicking 34-year-old Rosanne Boyland to death.

It just keeps getting worse and worse. Of course they are the dirty old woman’s personal goon squad.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 25, 2021 11:06 am

P J Watson on the Waukesha bastard, the even worse msm and leftie bastards including the whitehouse bastards and how this destroys their blm bullshit (short 5 minutes):

But if he didn’t drive the car across state lines, is there really a case?

Indolent
Indolent
November 25, 2021 11:06 am

Transferring, or removing, people who are positive and their close contacts to a quarantine centre ( one that is a health spa of sorts, having springs, it seems) can only be promising.

There is another word for it though, kidnapping.

calli
calli
November 25, 2021 11:07 am

Newly-released video from the Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol display appears to show U.S. Capitol police kicking 34-year-old Rosanne Boyland to death.

I didn’t get to see that. They wanted me to be a paid subscriber first.

struth
struth
November 25, 2021 11:07 am

Meanwhile ze government zourzes are telling you the jabs are fine.

The jabs are killing and injuring at least hundreds and hundreds of thousands world wide.
Nurses have quit in their thousands around Australia because they have seen what the jab is doing.
Our hospitals are filling up with the jab.
But if she doesn’t hear it from Greg Hunt, it’s not happening.
It’s very hard to get people who have injected themselves with poisons that are tick tick ticking away inside, to see things clearly.
That’s the last thing they’ll want to do.
That’s obvious.
Sort of like saying of LL’s untimely death, that he’s just having a break from the blog.
This blog was his whole life, on here all the time.
Gone at most, twenty four hours.

“People sometimes take a break from the blog”
People sometimes do.
Frank doesn’t.
I don’t wish him dead, but I would hate his death to be for nothing if not to drive home the dangerous poisons they are injecting and the fact we are at war with those notafan gets her wrong information from.
Like Italy’s bullshit at the start, and much more all now shown and proven to be the biggest load of bollocks the world has ever seen.
In a war the first thing to go is the truth.
Especially if the enemy’s site has .gov at the end of it’s address.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 25, 2021 11:07 am

Waukesha

Cohenite – The guy is looking worse and worse. Reporting is about to mysteriously cease I think.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
November 25, 2021 11:08 am

just a reframing of the old demand for liebensraum

This made me laugh. Instead of ‘living space’ you wrote ‘loving space’ Arky.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 25, 2021 11:09 am

Me:

It’s horseshit.

Gab:

Is it? Why? Because the main stream media isn’t reporting it? Because some bloke says it ain’t so? Oh, okay.

So it’s true because some bloke says it is? A bloke with a demonstrated record of hiding his own agendas, which are aimed at sourcing free Federal cash while distancing himself from it?

Whose clear intent is to detract from this extremely righteous cause to pursue the advancement of his own bank balance?

David Cole has no connection with Katherine, no connection with the tribes in Katherine, and the tribes he does have connections with have disowned him.

I don’t care that the NT government says forced vaccination and people being driven to camps at gunpoint isn’t happening. I do care that the actual indig on the ground and in Binjarri say it isn’t happening, the clinics say it isn’t happening, the townspeople say it isn’t happening and the aid agencies say it isn’t happening.

There’s a lot of shit situations in this country at present. This hyped-up nonsense is not one of them.

As I said. Love your work in general Gab. But – remember the patent you lined to the other week you said was about injectable mini robots and their functions in the human body powered by 5G, and which was nothing of the sort?

It takes away from the genuine message. Shit like ‘it doesn’t matter if it’s a lie’ from other commenters does not help, and it does not advance anti-mandated vax credibility an inch.

struth
struth
November 25, 2021 11:09 am

Transferring, or removing, people who are positive and their close contacts to a quarantine centre ( one that is a health spa of sorts, having springs, it seems) can only be promising.

More Nazis

Franx
Franx
November 25, 2021 11:16 am

It could be that the quarantine place noted for its springs also has dedicated shower rooms.

Dot
Dot
November 25, 2021 11:16 am

Newly-released video from the Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol display appears to show U.S. Capitol police kicking 34-year-old Rosanne Boyland to death.

The fake news media had previously claimed that Boyland was trampled to death by pro-Trump rioters and then claimed she died of a drug overdose, but the footage released by the FBI appears to indicate otherwise:

Simply awful. Remember FDR shot at the Bonus Army.

Bar Beach Swimmer
November 25, 2021 11:18 am

According to Alan Tudge this morning on Sky, the decision to introduce the religious anti-discrimination bill so late in the political cycle has to do with a piece of legislation before the Victorian Parliament (I’m not sure what that legislation is). So, in this instance, the Federal Govt agrees that federal legislation can override state law, but still has no power to protect citizens from the states’ vaccine mandates, vaccine passports and the loss of employment for refusing to take an experimental product (not to mention that religious anti-discrimination legislation was promised, when? /sarc).

Duplicitous arseh*les.

calli
calli
November 25, 2021 11:18 am

Okay. All you guys commenting must have seen that video from Jan 6. How did you manage it?

Cassie of Sydney
November 25, 2021 11:20 am

“Knuckle Draggersays:
November 25, 2021 at 11:09 am”

Thank you.

Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 11:20 am

struthsays:
November 25, 2021 at 11:09 am
Transferring, or removing, people who are positive and their close contacts to a quarantine centre ( one that is a health spa of sorts, having springs, it seems) can only be promising.

More Nazis

Time to invest in Zyklon B producers.

Due to it’s unfortunate reputation has been re-badged Cyanosil, and is still being produced.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 25, 2021 11:26 am

Wonder if any of those retiring Vic ALP members could be encouraged to leave parliament now? A by-election could be interesting…

calli
calli
November 25, 2021 11:26 am

Newly-released video from the Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol display appears to show U.S. Capitol police kicking 34-year-old Rosanne Boyland to death.

Okay.

This is huge news.

Why is it hidden behind a paywall?

JC
JC
November 25, 2021 11:26 am

There is a kernel of truth to the theoretical limits of human carrying capacity.

There’s no way the current population could exist as hunter gatherers. Ironically, hunter gatherers are actually very wealthy in a theoretical sense because of the enormous amount of land needed to feed people.

Human population is just a function of technology. That’s all.

Bar Beach Swimmer
November 25, 2021 11:27 am

Nelson, for the next few months there’s still a gravy train to ride.

Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 11:30 am

I propose a post birth, no age limit, mandatory abortion for all leftards, politicians and clot shot pushers.

local oaf
November 25, 2021 11:34 am

local oaf

In my day, we were allowed to take our ties off if the temp reached 100F

Bunch of wimps!

Wimps!?!

We had it so tough, that when I started primary school there were no classrooms for us. We had lessons sitting on the floor in a corridor. With older kids kicking us as they went past!*

* Well, laughing at us actually

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 25, 2021 11:35 am

Time to invest in Zyklon B producers.

All turkeys should invest in axe producers.

I’ve been reading about the Japanese POW system in WW2. It doesn’t inspire me with confidence in the human race, nor our wannabe totalitarian pollies.

calli
calli
November 25, 2021 11:36 am

I’ll be more blunt, then.

Has anyone who has commented on the Jan 6 footage seen it?

Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 25, 2021 11:36 am

True, that, BBS, but if they want to spend more time with the family (I think I heard that like trotted out by one of them on the radio news) surely they want to start sooner rather than later? 😉

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 25, 2021 11:38 am

Has the one man Struth-and-Reconciliation Committee got an RDO today?

Or is he down to just his (one, self-employed) job all of a sudden?

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 25, 2021 11:40 am

Anyone wishing to avail themselves of Germany’s euthanasia clinics have to be properly prick’d.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 25, 2021 11:41 am

It’s horseshit.

I am inclined to think KD is right about this, and I also agree that spreading “disinformation”, aka lies, is a very bad idea. Yes, the lefties do it, and we’ve caught them out, which is why we don’t trust them on anything. If we want to convince anyone, telling lies just gives them another reason not to believe us.

Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 11:42 am

Stated some time ago:

‘The forest was shrinking but the trees kept voting for the axe, for the axe was clever and convinced the trees that because its handle was made of wood, he was one of them.’

will
will
November 25, 2021 11:43 am

Why is it hidden behind a paywall?

try:

Bypass any paywall,

https://12ft.io/

Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 11:44 am

DrBeauGansays:
November 25, 2021 at 11:41 am
It’s horseshit.

I am inclined to think KD is right about this, and I also agree that spreading “disinformation”, aka lies, is a very bad idea. Yes, the lefties do it, and we’ve caught them out, which is why we don’t trust them on anything. If we want to convince anyone, telling lies just gives them another reason not to believe us.

Nahh mate! If you tell a lie often enough the dummies will eventually believe it.
Fascism 101.

Zipster
November 25, 2021 11:47 am

This made me laugh. Instead of ‘living space’ you wrote ‘loving space’ Arky.

gay

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 25, 2021 11:52 am

Nahh mate! If you tell a lie often enough the dummies will eventually believe it.
Fascism 101.

But I don’t want to be a fascist. I don’t like them, I don’t like their staring eyes and they smell bad.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 25, 2021 11:53 am

I think Razey is closer to reality. It is the difference between hearing something and listening. You hear a lot of stuff in modern life.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
November 25, 2021 11:56 am

I see the vaxxies are having a go at the purebloods. And trying to delegitimise the use of purebloods and pure bloods.
It was only a question of time.
UnAustralian behaviour at its most blatant.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 25, 2021 11:59 am

Robots cause Nazis.

Robots in Europe vote for the radical right (24 Nov)

Exposure to automation led to an increase in support for radical-right parties in Western European countries between the late 1990s and 2016, according to a newly published study by Bocconi professors Massimo Anelli, Italo Colantone and Piero Stanig. They find that individuals that, due to their characteristics and to those of the labor market in which they are inserted, are more exposed to the automation shock are significantly more likely to vote for a radical right party.

In other news eating cheese causes death by bed sheet entanglement. (Linky from last week. 😀 )

Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 12:03 pm

Miss Anthropistsays:
November 25, 2021 at 11:56 am
I see the vaxxies are having a go at the purebloods. And trying to delegitimise the use of purebloods and pure bloods.
It was only a question of time.
UnAustralian behaviour at its most blatant.

Which is more effective? Calling our selves purebloods, or the unclean?

Either way, vaxtards dont seem to like us very much. As if we are responsible for their poor health choices.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 25, 2021 12:08 pm

I think there must be a robotics conference on as the science news has lots of robot stuff.

Robots can be companions, caregivers, collaborators—and social influencers (24 Nov)

Nudge, nudge. You have 20 seconds to comply…

Zipster
November 25, 2021 12:11 pm

Nahh mate! If you tell a lie often enough the dummies will eventually believe it.
Fascism 101.

we’re not fascists

Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 12:14 pm

Zipstersays:
November 25, 2021 at 12:11 pm
Nahh mate! If you tell a lie often enough the dummies will eventually believe it.
Fascism 101.

we’re not fascists

The average voter doesn’t want truth. If you want to change things, you just need to formulate the right lie and feed it to em.

Dot
Dot
November 25, 2021 12:15 pm
Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 12:18 pm

Dotsays:
November 25, 2021 at 12:15 pm
It’s okay guys, it’s been fact checked.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check-no-evidence-that-pfizers-covi-idUSL1N2MZ382

LOL.

And we have the long term safety data to confirm it. How dumb can people be.

Zipster
November 25, 2021 12:21 pm
John of Mel
John of Mel
November 25, 2021 12:22 pm

regardless of who is doing what at Howard Springs most folk will/do want to believe it is forced incarceration ..

I don’t think there is any doubt that this is happening. The discussion is whether ADF is forcibly injecting indigenous population with Covid “vaccines”. Isn’t it?

Zipster
November 25, 2021 12:23 pm

The average voter doesn’t want truth. If you want to change things, you just need to formulate the right lie and feed it to em.

maybe you’re on the wrong blog?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 25, 2021 12:23 pm

The average voter doesn’t want truth. If you want to change things, you just need to formulate the right lie and feed it to em.

People are sheeple. Is that right? Just need to be led correctly and in the approved method, right?

Straight out of the A1 manifesto. A direct lift. You wonder why you’re not taken seriously. Blast our way to fREedom!1! Lies are good! Red shoes people!11!! Don’t you SEE?

There’s been enough lying by the people supposedly leading us. Not speaking for others, but I for one don’t need bigger and more fantastic (and immediately disproven) patent untruths being marketed as correct by fringe fantasist yappers.

calli
calli
November 25, 2021 12:25 pm

will says:
November 25, 2021 at 11:43 am

I tried that before I started asking questions. But thanks Will.

I’ve found it very useful for other articles, but it doesn’t work with this particular one.

Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 12:27 pm

Zipstersays:
November 25, 2021 at 12:23 pm
The average voter doesn’t want truth. If you want to change things, you just need to formulate the right lie and feed it to em.

maybe you’re on the wrong blog?

No. Plenty here seem to have drunk the Jim Jones flavour-aid. I see a willing audience to lies and fearmongering.

twostix
twostix
November 25, 2021 12:27 pm

Figures – The wet right obsesses about moving to the Overton centre. But that no longer exists. The Left has no such obsession – they just use force and coercion to get what they want, and if the electorate won’t support them they just steal elections.

This is a good take.

People need to get an understanding that there is no longer such a thing as “The Left”.

There was, maybe, but they have won. How? They won the godless materialist professional middle class by appealing to their midwit arrogance. They won the guilt ridden capitalist class by appealing to their greed, vanity and contempt for the everyman, the won the facebook, news.com.au feed addicted proles by appealing to their base desire to be entertained and see daily spectacles of people punished by the mob.

What you now have is not the left, it’s the establishment.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 25, 2021 12:28 pm

Either way, vaxtards dont seem to like us very much

Perhaps because there are now very many more ‘vaxtards’ who wrere forced to comply by government bastardry and psychological blackmail than there ever were bugmen who wanted to play the game and show their allegiance.

And the more vocal ‘pure bloods,’ in their eagerness to display the self-same tribal allegiancesto each other, are now as equally shrill and obnoxious.

This is not and never will be a call to wind your neck-cranks in a notch or two. You are free to live within the limits of yourselves and the law of the land.

Just try not to stick your noses up so high in the air that you trip yourselves up. Face-planting onto your nose hurts…

Cassie of Sydney
November 25, 2021 12:31 pm

“Knuckle Draggersays:
November 25, 2021 at 12:23 pm”

Well said.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 25, 2021 12:31 pm

It’s a miracle

BoM finally catches up.

La Nina has been declared. Why should we care? (24 Nov)

The Australian Bureau of Meteorology has just declared a La Niña in the tropical Pacific.

They’re quick.

dopey
dopey
November 25, 2021 12:32 pm

ABC: ‘ Govt narrowly avoids defeat over integrity commission.’ I think that means they won the vote.

rickw
rickw
November 25, 2021 12:32 pm

Work Update

Still surviving. All hinges on whether or Dan’s enabling act gets up and whether or not it has a mandate in it.

Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 12:33 pm

Rex Angersays:
November 25, 2021 at 12:28 pm
You are free to live within the limits of yourselves and the law of the land.

As far as I’m concerned the ‘laws’ no longer apply once it was confirmed we have no human rights.

shatterzzz
November 25, 2021 12:34 pm

can I please have the link to the Lame Pics?
Ideally the one that has a list of them all

This should fill the bill .. LOL!
https://freedomaustralia.freeforums.net/board/127/lame-pics

Cassie of Sydney
November 25, 2021 12:34 pm

“Zipstersays:
November 25, 2021 at 12:23 pm
The average voter doesn’t want truth. If you want to change things, you just need to formulate the right lie and feed it to em.

maybe you’re on the wrong blog?”

I think so….here’s a smidgen of his contributions…incitement to violence and anyone who takes issue with that is a “fascist” and “pure bloods”.

Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 12:35 pm

rickwsays:
November 25, 2021 at 12:32 pm
Work Update

Still surviving. All hinges on whether or Dan’s enabling act gets up and whether or not it has a mandate in it.

Dunno about you, but I’m completely unmotivated and thinking about quitting and chilling out for a few years anyway.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 25, 2021 12:36 pm

I know nothing about these camps.
How can I be blamed.
Andrews uber alles!

Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 12:37 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
November 25, 2021 at 12:34 pm
“Zipstersays:
November 25, 2021 at 12:23 pm
The average voter doesn’t want truth. If you want to change things, you just need to formulate the right lie and feed it to em.

maybe you’re on the wrong blog?”

I think so….here’s a smidgen of his contributions…incitement to violence and anyone who takes issue with that is a “fascist” and “pure bloods”.

Sounds like the ramblings of a typical bedwetter leftard Danny supporter. LOL
Go get your booster shot! 😉

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 25, 2021 12:38 pm

As far as I’m concerned the ‘laws’ no longer apply once it was confirmed we have no human rights.

And yet you still comply with them.

Even down to something as banal as following the rules amd conventions of civility on this blog…

Cassie of Sydney
November 25, 2021 12:38 pm

“Sounds like the ramblings of a typical bedwetter leftard Danny supporter. LOL
Go get your booster shot! ?”

I think it’s time you vacated yourself from here.

Cassie of Sydney
November 25, 2021 12:39 pm

“conventions of civility on this blog”

Except he’s not. He’s walking on ice and the ice is cracking.

shatterzzz
November 25, 2021 12:39 pm

“Defence is aware of social media posts claiming the Australian Defence Force (ADF) is forcibly vaccinating or detaining members of the Australian community. These claims are false,” a Defence spokesperson said.

Well, they would say that, wouldn’t they? .. not very likely they’d come out and say, “Yes, we is”, LOL! ..

johanna
johanna
November 25, 2021 12:40 pm

It’s worth remembering that it was never the elites or the working class in the west that valued, nurtured, installed and practiced hard work, tolerance, nationalism, productivity, family values, the desire for prosperity, literacy, education, aspiration, respect for the individual and the spirit for democracy….this was the genius of the middle class

Cassie, I must take issue with this statement, big time.

In Britain in the first half of the C20th, every town and city had a ‘Workers Education Centre’ or equivalent, where people lacking formal education could go in the evenings and learn about everything from basic literacy to archaeology, law, botany or French. At no charge. People flocked to these places, not just to learn, but also to meet like-minded folks who wanted to learn and to break the class barriers.

There were similar places in Australia, although not on the same scale.

Older Cats may remember meeting taxi drivers who were authorities on ancient Egypt, labourers who knew everything about the French Revolution, and delivery drivers who had the last word on the Industrial Revolution.

Autodidacts.

It is untrue, and unfair, to label ‘the working class’ with such a broad brush.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 25, 2021 12:41 pm

In other news eating cheese causes death by bed sheet entanglement. (Linky from last week. ? )

You don’t know that. It might be the other way around. 🙂

Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 12:41 pm

I can hear the echo in here…;)

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 25, 2021 12:42 pm

Instead of ‘living space’ you wrote ‘loving space’ Arky.

Are we back creating more euphemisms for lady parts again?

“Hey baby, how about lying back while I invade your liebensraum”?

“Her liebensraum was like Holland, moist, dank and full of dykes”…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 25, 2021 12:42 pm

@ Cassie-

He hasn’t called me a ‘N*****’ yet, nor screamed at me about my misbehaving nano-wrigglers. 🙂

I agree that my bar for standards of civility is set pretty low, but it is reliable… 😉

twostix
twostix
November 25, 2021 12:43 pm

People are sheeple. Is that right? Just need to be led correctly and in the approved method, right?

That’s what half the bible says, is it wrong?

People, society, whatever is always looking for a vision and preconfigured set of truths and ideas to be given to them to adopt and live by.

The impossible part is formulating a good set, getting enough people to go out and make the case for them, and overcoming the status quo and replacing it with the new ones.

Every successful establishment since the dawn of time has used propaganda, narratives, setups, and re-framing to advance their cause.

Every.single.one.

Cassie of Sydney
November 25, 2021 12:43 pm

“It is untrue, and unfair, to label ‘the working class’ with such a broad brush.”

You’re right.

shatterzzz
November 25, 2021 12:46 pm

Antone waiting for ‘ooman rites to gallop over the horizon and slay the mandates…

Didn’t read the piece but VERY impressed with the BLUE … LOL!

twostix
twostix
November 25, 2021 12:47 pm

The problem the “right” has, is it’s propaganda is usually shit.

But people are learning and building.

And I’ll say that the anti-establishment that is currently being built, is being built completely outside of places like this. “Conservatives” whatever they are anymore, are basically absent from the entire thing.

Roger
Roger
November 25, 2021 12:47 pm

The French Foreign Minister is presently swanning around SE Asia bad mouthing Australia and talking up French strategic plans for the Indo-Pacific region.

Just how you develop a credible stategy for the region while excluding a continental nation whose shores extend from the Indian to the Pacific oceans he hasn’t yet explained.

I don’t think the French have really gotten over being beaten here by the British by a mere five days and all the subterfuge involved.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 25, 2021 12:48 pm

Her liebensraum was like Holland, moist, dank and full of dykes”…

I once completely destroyed all productivity in my office for an entire 10 minutes with a joke like that.

All my team were meeting each other at Fiona Stanley Hospital for the first time. And 2 of these Scientists were of Dutch descent. While figuring this bit out, one asks the other “Haven’t you heard about [The old Dutch folk tale] of the boy who stuck his finger in the dyke?”

I said “Yeah! She punched him out!”

Stunned Silence. Then the nature of the dad joke sank in. It was a proud moment. 🙂

Right up there with sticking a pair of googly eyes onto a mannequin normally used to demo CPAP masks, sticking it up on a high shelf within the eyeline of anyone coming through the office door, and scaring every outside contractor who wandered in.

The role of the Cavalry is to add Colour, Dash and Daring to an otherwise vulgar brawl…

rickw
rickw
November 25, 2021 12:49 pm

Dunno about you, but I’m completely unmotivated and thinking about quitting and chilling out for a few years anyway.

Two years of COVID crap plus this crap, I’m just about done.

Sell up in Melbourne.
Buys stocks with proceeds per JC’s advice.
Work as farm labourer in my sisters farm.
Plant vines and olives.

Dolce Vita!

Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 12:49 pm
shatterzzz
November 25, 2021 12:50 pm

So the story goes that if you are vaccinated you will not be as affected even if infected. How do we know that if nobody is allowed to even question it let alone study it?

Bat Flu rules for beginners #101 .. Never, ever let double vaxxing get in the way of a PAID sickie .. LOL!

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 25, 2021 12:51 pm

I can hear the echo in here…;)

Of course you can.

That is what happens when you drop a fart in an enclosed dunny…

calli
calli
November 25, 2021 12:52 pm

I know someone who is about to walk away from their $300k job. Covid mandate induced nervous breakdown. Not everyone in HR is a heartless mongrel.

Thank you Government for helping so much. You’re real champs.

shatterzzz
November 25, 2021 12:53 pm

All it takes is for ScoMo to just get the 20 most dangerous “refugees” he can find and tell a prominent Lefty that he has to shelter them in his home rent free and we would never once hear a peep from anybody about refugee advocacy again.

I’m thinking a surname starting with …… R

rickw
rickw
November 25, 2021 12:54 pm

detaining members of the Australian community

How would one characterise being dragged off the Howard Springs?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 25, 2021 12:55 pm

Bat Flu rules for beginners #101 .. Never, ever let double vaxxing get in the way of a PAID sickie .. LOL!

See, Razey?

The rule of law is alive and well, and for certain elements of the working population the paid sickie is a fundamental human right.

So, the only time you can legitimately huff and puff and squeal like a poked toad about “No ‘uman Rights!!!1!” is when they take your paid sickies away.

And you know as well as I do that this will never happen. That’s barricade time right there…

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
November 25, 2021 12:55 pm

But I don’t want to be a fascist. I don’t like them, I don’t like their staring eyes and they smell bad.

…they also have big hands, smell like cabbage.

A. Powers

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 25, 2021 12:55 pm

Im undecided on the ADF use rumours.

On one hand they say this.

https://news.defence.gov.au/national/operation-covid-19-assist

The ADF is supporting law enforcement agencies with mandatory quarantine arrangements.

The ADF will not be authorised as law enforcement officers as this remains the responsibility of the states and territories.

That second highlighted bit MAY be deliberately misleading, as a “authorized person “under the act can be pretty well anyone nominated.

twostix
twostix
November 25, 2021 12:57 pm

Telling blatant lies is something you only get to do once you are the establishment with hegemonic control over government, the media, corporate power, etc.

I’d say it’s terrible tactics to try and copy that as the non-establishment.

The left didn’t do that on their way up, they spent most of their time framing up narratives, re-framing losses to look like wins, and setting up the old establishment right to be constantly snookered so no matter which way it moved there was a narrative or story waiting to be used to condemn them in the mind of the people. Which eventually led to complete paralysis and the old establishment being afraid to even have an opinion on something as mundane as the weather.

How did the new establishment’s values get adopted so rapidly? After the above campaign, it allowed people to have opinions again , as long as they were the right ones.

rickw
rickw
November 25, 2021 12:59 pm

Thank you Government for helping so much. You’re real champs.

I walk into the coffee shop and the owner immediately asks if I got fired, no, I survived for the moment!

This immediately starts a conversation in the que. “I got fired, he got fired, I’m about to get fired, this is terrible, it’s disgusting”. At 90% vaccination rate what are the chances of walking into a coffee shop and no one in the que is vaccinated?!

Muz
Muz
November 25, 2021 1:02 pm

Similar to Cassie, why is this sort of thing appearing now: struth today 11.09am; Razey 11.20 am and 11.44am.
What purpose has this rhetoric, gentlemen? Since yesterday there are links to indigenous health workers pleading for exactly this sort of thing to stop; Luke Ellis @lukea88 is in the camp now, with covid … he also notes that hundreds of people (incomers) have cycled through the place for months now, but not a peep from anyone before yesterday.
I would like to have explained to me why some commenters here are swerving away from what Luke Ellis has to say.
One point he made yesterday is that overcrowded homes are a big concern in the Katherine region, up to 30 people in one house: impossible to isolate.. On his twitter feed there are pics of fresh food deliveries to people in quarantine. He describes the June Mills vid as “unhinged”. That phone call that’s been retweeted a thousand times is staged. Totally.
Take care with the info. “Kopassus” is getting a run today. You should look into this yourself.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 25, 2021 1:03 pm

The role of the Cavalry is to add Colour, Dash and Daring to an otherwise vulgar brawl…

Who was the American Civil War General who said that all his cavalry was fit for was hanging up invalids, and torturing them, for their gold?

rickw
rickw
November 25, 2021 1:03 pm

Germany bans euthanasia for the unvaccinated

Every German oldie just worked out how to not get rubbed out!

Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 1:06 pm

rickwsays:
November 25, 2021 at 1:03 pm
Germany bans euthanasia for the unvaccinated

Every German oldie just worked out how to not get rubbed out!

Hehe, the neo-Nazi rulers probably think this will boost the vax rate. 😉

P
P
November 25, 2021 1:06 pm

Assisted death only for vaccinated:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLcIGThBabQ

John of Mel
John of Mel
November 25, 2021 1:06 pm

At current consumption levels, the equivalent of almost three planets would be required to sustain a world of 9.6 billion by 2050.

I think the calculate it based on the US consumption, but applied to the whole world (equity and stuff).

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 25, 2021 1:08 pm

Who was the American Civil War General who said that all his cavalry was fit for was hanging up invalids, and torturing them, for their gold?

Clearly not a very good one. Otherwise he’d have decent Cavalry attached to his forces… 😉

132andBush
132andBush
November 25, 2021 1:08 pm

The average voter doesn’t want truth. If you want to change things, you just need to formulate the right lie and feed it to em.

Fuck off you idiot.

Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 1:10 pm

Miracle in Japan

Ivermectin allowed as a treatment on August 13

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1GF0H9V_1g

Yes, the Western Governments have failed us.

twostix
twostix
November 25, 2021 1:10 pm

I walk into the coffee shop and the owner immediately asks if I got fired, no, I survived for the moment!

Good for you rickw.

Roger
Roger
November 25, 2021 1:11 pm

Im undecided on the ADF use rumours.

I’m disinclined to believe the rumours butI’m opposed to the use of the ADF in the covid response in any form.

The “emergency” simply doesn’t meet the legislative threshold that limits the call out powers that the Executive has in regard to deploying ADF personnel domestically.

The civilian sphere should not be militarised except under the gravest of circumstances.

The federal government’s continued willingness to do so in response to state requests flies in the face of Morrison’s talk of “freedom”.

rosie
rosie
November 25, 2021 1:13 pm
Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 1:14 pm

rosiesays:
November 25, 2021 at 1:13 pm
Three Victorian Labor mps announce they are quitting

I wrote (very politely) to one of these three a couple of days ago and now they are quitting politics. I really do have the power.

I wrote to Danny the Hunchback a few home truths. He’s still in. Maybe you could work your magic?

rickw
rickw
November 25, 2021 1:15 pm

Right up there with sticking a pair of googly eyes onto a mannequin normally used to demo CPAP masks, sticking it up on a high shelf within the eyeline of anyone coming through the office door, and scaring every outside contractor who wandered in.

For some reason we had some poppers at work, my briefcase was identical to my counterparts, so I wired it up in mine to go off on opening, then switched it out for his. My counterpart opened it during an exciting engineering discussion with our boss. Boss almost ruptured spleen and spent 10 minutes gasping for air it was so funny.

We also convinced one of the blokes that he’d run over a dog in the pool car, complete with call from distressed old lady. He decided that he needed to declare this to his boss, but his boss wasn’t there, nor was his bosses boss, we intercepted him just before he burst into a senior managers office to declare his murder of an old lady’s dog.

Workplaces used to be so much fun!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 25, 2021 1:15 pm

One point he made yesterday is that overcrowded homes are a big concern in the Katherine region, up to 30 people in one house: impossible to isolate

Muz – that’s not overcrowding. That’s how the fullblood indig prefer to live in communities. Not going to change, unfortunately. You go into any fullblood NT community and you’ll see quite a few houses we paid for, perfectly serviceable, sitting empty because the people allocated thouse houses prefer to live with cousin-brother or Aunty.

twostix
twostix
November 25, 2021 1:17 pm

Like a dog to vomit, Morrison let the Navy handle operation sovereign borders, which was a success despite his inate retardness and he got all the credit, so he rolled out the army to handle covid for him too.

Including the army being in charge of organising the vaccine rollout and media propaganda “messaging” campaign.

Scodam Hussein and his generals running this place like a militarised authoritarian shithole, and oh look, we’re turning into one.

132andBush
132andBush
November 25, 2021 1:17 pm

Apologies for being a bit verbose.

Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 1:20 pm

132andBushsays:
November 25, 2021 at 1:17 pm
Apologies for being a bit verbose.

Hehe, I welcome it. Get fired up people! The WEF are doing their best to enslave us all!

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 25, 2021 1:20 pm

johanna

There were similar places in Australia, although not on the same scale.

Indeed. In many country towns, there are still quite substantial buildings with old names like Mechanics’ Institute above the front door. Mostly, sadly, now converted to other uses.

twostix
twostix
November 25, 2021 1:26 pm

NT implements the final vision, vaccine passports as a government license to leave your house:

Northern Territory

A new system of “lock-outs” will be brought in once the territory reaches at least 80 per cent of the population fully vaccinated.

If a lock-out is declared, unvaccinated people will only permitted to leave their home for five reasons.

Those who are vaccinated will be allowed to continue their lives as normal but must wear a mask.

Leaving your home will be a privilege that the government can take away at any time. This is the permanent future if it’s not stopped.

Roger
Roger
November 25, 2021 1:26 pm

Who was the American Civil War General who said that all his cavalry was fit for was hanging up invalids, and torturing them, for their gold?

Sounds apocryphal although the quality of Union cavalry early in the war certainly left much to be desired.

Civil war cavalry were mainly used for screening infantry positions, reconnaisance and rounding up infantry stragglers. The advent of rifled muskets and field artillery rendered the offensive use of cavalry a very expensive proposition in terms of human life.

calli
calli
November 25, 2021 1:26 pm

Mechanics’ Institute above the front door.

Or Memorial Hall, School of Arts and the like. Some out in the most unlikely places, many built post WWI instead of, or as an addition to, the sad columns of lists in the town centre.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 25, 2021 1:27 pm

I’m completely unmotivated and thinking about quitting and chilling out for a few years anyway

And:

Hehe, I welcome it. Get fired up people! The WEF are doing their best to enslave us all!

Hi Gunner.

*rattles spray can*

Zatara
Zatara
November 25, 2021 1:27 pm

At current consumption levels, the equivalent of almost three planets would be required to sustain a world of 9.6 billion by 2050.

I suppose that depends on whether they declare CO2 a ‘pollutant’ on those planets as well.

If so they’ll need more planets to piss into the wind on.

twostix
twostix
November 25, 2021 1:30 pm

news.com.au comments pleasantly surprising on this lunatic run down of your new life in Scomestown Australia where the government only begins using the Health Acts to punish healthy people after 90% of people comply with it.

Bar Beach Swimmer
November 25, 2021 1:30 pm

rickwsays:
November 25, 2021 at 12:32 pm
Work Update

Still surviving. All hinges on whether or Dan’s enabling act gets up and whether or not it has a mandate in it.

That’s great news, rick. Interesting that your employer doesn’t want to/cannot “pull the trigger” until the legislation gets up. What does that say about the legality of sacking all those employees (at least in Victoria) who would not submit?

Winston Smith
November 25, 2021 1:35 pm

Still having trouble keeping up with the flood…
Frank:

Whatsherface foresaw a future where unvaxed men are in high demand by the women folk, she expected them to be having a lot of fun when everything subsides and thoughts turn to procreation. Either that or locked up in a lab somewhere being milked like great cum cows.

I haven’t read further than this point, but here’s my contribution to the intellectual debate that may be looming…

Delta A
Delta A
November 25, 2021 1:37 pm

Still surviving.

A very stressful time for you and your family, rickw.

Take care.

Winston Smith
November 25, 2021 1:39 pm

Salvatore:

Anyone who does not want Task Force Argos dropping around to their house/workplace for a chat plus a forensic examination of their hard drives, should wipe all contact information they have for frollickingmole + delete all email exchanges with him.

The laws just passed that allow the police et al to alter, delete, add information to a persons hard drive are a paedophiles dream legislation.
“No your Honour, I’ve never seen those filthy pictures before. And the times they were placed on my computer have been altered.”

132andBush
132andBush
November 25, 2021 1:41 pm

Nothing destroys a lie like the truth. It may take some time and it may get battered around in the process but the truth will stand and the lie will fall.
Ill use Maters’ post this morning as an example. How can any vax spruiker argue against that?

Fighting lies with lies is idiotic.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 25, 2021 1:42 pm


Yeah nah Sneakers, as you continue to up the threats, people are coerced.
The man is a sociopath.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 25, 2021 1:43 pm

Interesting snippet at the very bottom of a long article in The Oz about the missing elderly campers and arrest of a suspect:
“Mr Hill – who did not tell his wife he was with Ms Clay – was last heard from the next day via HF radio, stating he was at Wonnangatta Valley in the Victorian Alps.”

The press have been quiet about this. Not salacious enough?

132andBush
132andBush
November 25, 2021 1:44 pm

many built post WWI instead of, or as an addition to, the sad columns of lists in the town centre.

And the Avenues of Honour.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 25, 2021 1:45 pm

Civil war cavalry were mainly used for screening infantry positions, reconnaisance and rounding up infantry stragglers. The advent of rifled muskets and field artillery rendered the offensive use of cavalry a very expensive proposition in terms of human life.

I think some of the last lance-carrying cavalry actions against each other occurred in various skirmishes around 1917-18 in Syria and the old Palestine.

Ottoman and Indian cavalry formations at the time were equipped with lances, while the Australian and NZ Light Horse (mostly originally mounted infantry) and the Brotish Army’s Yeomanry Regiments all carried swords.

I do not include the Polish cavalry vs. German Panzer Is and IIs in 1939, as the Panzertruppen most certainly were not carrying lances…

Roger
Roger
November 25, 2021 1:45 pm

The NT reportedly has just 20 ICU beds (according to Gunner himself).

That’s an increase of just 2 beds since covid first appeared and the “flatten the curve” mantra began.

And that’s with probably the most disadvanated and health compromised general population in Australia.

You would have thought contingency plans would have been made to “surge” ICU capacity if required but the current government panic suggests not. If that is the case this is potentially a political stuff up that is going to dwarf that of the Andrews government in terms of human lives.

Winston Smith
November 25, 2021 1:46 pm

Megan:

It is distressing in the extreme. Why choose indigenous communities for this overreach? This might just be that idiot Gunner’s bridge too far.

Overreach – “Winstons First Law of Tyranny”.
They always do it, Megan. They cannot help themselves – like the scorpion and the frog.

Razey
Razey
November 25, 2021 1:48 pm

twostixsays:
November 25, 2021 at 1:26 pm
NT implements the final vision, vaccine passports as a government license to leave your house:

Northern Territory

A new system of “lock-outs” will be brought in once the territory reaches at least 80 per cent of the population fully vaccinated.

If a lock-out is declared, unvaccinated people will only permitted to leave their home for five reasons.

Those who are vaccinated will be allowed to continue their lives as normal but must wear a mask.

Leaving your home will be a privilege that the government can take away at any time. This is the permanent future if it’s not stopped.

I bet ya Danny the Hunchback will pull this shit in Vic.

Joke will be on them as the vax doesnt stop the spread.

bespoke
bespoke
November 25, 2021 1:49 pm

Delta Asays:
November 25, 2021 at 10:05 am
I admit, I was one who was taken in by the hype.

24 hours at least to start taking any interest and another week before taking things seriously has been my rule for some time. Always good when cranks like Razey save time by advertising they are not interested in the truth.

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