3,158 thoughts on “Open Thread – Mon 22 Nov 2021”

  1. JCsays:
    November 25, 2021 at 8:55 pm
    Dot:

    I maybe old, but I think it’s diabolical older men leering over young girls. It’d actually beyond disgusting. Men, real men shouldn’t do that. Just play with those around your own age group and leave the young to the young.

    Many western men 60+ are quite the catch for young fillipina women.


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  2. Lordie

    It’s Thanksgiving and I was wondering why the premarket wasn’t showing anything on the tape. You’re right Dot, I am getting old. There was never a time in the past that I’d forget.


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  3. The Byzantines got their poo pushed in by Frankish knights every time they fought a set piece battle.
    They were the tank of their day, with the same limitations.


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  4. I keep thinking, how would things be different if Labor were in power and I can’t see any difference.

    The theft would be more rapacious and more overt. Otherwise probably not much in it, just settle for the least malignant based on personalities.


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  5. Leonardo Di Caprio and Kristy Hinze show that those rules are conditioned onto us and we let the rich and famous “get away with it”. There is some weird socially optimising fuzzy logic at work.

    Also, muddled aged women are most likely to be incensed by an age gap.

    Funnily enough, Roger Moore kept on getting called “sexy” until he had basically expired. I don’t think it was the gays who said so. My gay friends never want to watch Zardoz.


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  6. JCsays:
    November 25, 2021 at 9:01 pm
    Razey

    It doesn’t make the men appear in a better light.

    In general maybe, but to the individual punter, I don’t think they’d care. Noone is forcing the young ladies to marry the old farts. And its not always that way around, it appears not that unheard of in Japan for ladies to be 20+ years older than their fella’s. Look at the Frenchie Macaroni, his missus was basically a pedo.


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  7. I keep thinking, how would things be different if Labor were in power and I can’t see any difference.

    Probably no real difference, just worse. The Lieborals still deserve your 4th preferences.


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  8. Well, it’s all happening today, little bloke just tested positive, hasn’t been 100% for the last couple of days but thought it was just usual kid sniffles.

    Missus has also got it by my estimation.

    Me, I feel fine thus far! Will get tested tomorrow.

    Just as I was about to bugger off to the farm for 10 days solid of workshop fit out…..


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  9. CNN whitened the murderer’s complexion to try and avoid making him look black. FMD.

    They put a filter on Joe Rogan to make him look like the Emperor from Star Wars.


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  10. I’ll repeat again – war off the table – we are entering a golden age and I think it applies across the west.

    The golden age will end as soon as the power goes off.


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  11. rickw says:
    November 25, 2021 at 9:10 pm
    Well, it’s all happening today, little bloke just tested positive, hasn’t been 100% for the last couple of days but thought it was just usual kid sniffles.
    Missus has also got it by my estimation.
    Me, I feel fine thus far! Will get tested tomorrow.
    Just as I was about to bugger off to the farm for 10 days solid of workshop fit out…..

    Look at it this way, if you end up getting it then when you recover you will no longer need the jab. Your work situation resolved.


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  12. Lunch today, Wallis Lake oysters followed by a barramundi fillet.
    I was planning on having a steak, but the barramundi was the special & I’m always a sucker for the special.


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  13. Remember Sir Les Patterson, Cultural Attache to the Whitlam Government?
    That’s what a Labor Government is like.Remember Whitlam flyingb to Athens on hols while Darwin lay in Ruins?
    Remember Hawkie’s 8 year drinkathon while the Country fell to bits?
    Keating’s Recession we had to have?
    Rudd refusing to apologise to the parents of kids killed by his Home Insulation fiasco?
    Gillard’s No Carbon Tax under her Government?

    There’s only ever going to be 2 Parties in Australia, The Stupid Party and The Evil Party.
    How fucking stupid would you have to be to vote for The Evil Party?


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  14. No wonder citizens lose faith in the political class. I just had a look at Perrottet’s update of his road map out of this sh1t (via Rosie). On the 15/12 or at 95% of the applicable group we’re supposed to open up. But now he’s altered that commitment to include:

    Masks will only be required on public transport and planes, at airports and for indoors front-of-house staff who are not fully vaccinated (previously all indoors front-of-house hospitality staff regardless of vaccination status). Masks will be strongly encouraged in settings where you cannot social distance.

    QR check ins will only be required at high risk venues including hospitals, aged care and disability facilities, gyms and places of worship, funerals and memorial services, personal services (e.g. hairdressers and beauty salons), limited hospitality settings (including pubs, small bars, registered clubs and nightclubs), and for indoor music festivals with more than 1000 people.

    Proof of vaccination will no longer be required by Public Health Order for most activities (businesses can still require proof at their own discretion)

    Further down the blurb it’s all about getting out and enjoying yourself!

    What arseh*les.


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  15. Rones:
    Did you receive a testosterone shot today?

    Should the jab be one or two days before one’s appointment at the Buffalo Ranch?

    Inexperience but curious minds want to know.


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  16. This is what I’ve been taking on a daily basis:

    Quercetin 500mg
    Zinc + 25mg Zinc
    Vitamin D3 1000iu
    Vitamin C 500mg

    Basically Zalenko prophylaxis treatment as close as I could make it with what I could buy.

    I have hydroxychloroqine but it’s from India. I think it’s ok though.

    No Ivermectin available that isn’t for animal use.

    Tips and suggestions?

    What’s the name of the Indian Dr in SA that was also mentioning antihistamine?!


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  17. I see my lone battered has squibbed it.
    Hasn’t got what it takes to back up it’s mouth.

    Situation normal.


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  18. Zatara says:
    November 25, 2021 at 3:57 pm

    I’m sure they would have received a wonderful reception in Vietnam.

    Oddly, they might.

    Reports are the French emissaries arrived at Dien Bien Phu airport, strangely they chose to disembark by parachute.

    Further reports claim their arrival wasn’t cordially received.


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  19. Driller

    Staff shortages. It’s Thursday night and the bar is swinging. You must be swept off your feet busy. That’s why you’re here for most the evening . You loser.9


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  20. rickwsays:
    November 25, 2021 at 9:10 pm
    Well, it’s all happening today, little bloke just tested positive, hasn’t been 100% for the last couple of days but thought it was just usual kid sniffles.

    Missus has also got it by my estimation.

    Me, I feel fine thus far! Will get tested tomorrow.

    Just as I was about to bugger off to the farm for 10 days solid of workshop fit out…..

    Better crack open that horse paste 😉

    I bought a few tubes about a year ago.


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  21. I see my lone battered has squibbed it.
    Hasn’t got what it takes to back up it’s mouth.

    Wifey’s dressed him in his flannel nightshirt and bedsocks, given him his hot milk and tucked him into bed for the night?


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  22. Staff shortages.

    Yep.

    It’s Thursday night and the bar is swinging.

    It’s Thursday night & there’s been three inches of rain & still falling, nobody can get near the pub even if they ventured out.

    You must be swept off your feet busy.

    This is something that happens naturally to good publicans.

    That’s why you’re here for most the evening .

    Where else would I be?
    You know nothing about pubs. Stay in your lane.

    You loser.9

    Lol. I’m not the one whose mouth wrote a cheque that their screenshot bank cannot cash.


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  23. Further down the blurb it’s all about getting out and enjoying yourself!

    Avoid Pubs, Clubs, Airports and Hospitals.
    The only really important places to go are The Dentist, The Butcher and The Bottlo and they all do home delivery, apart from The Dentist.
    Not generally a fan of New South Wales, but i’m warming to this ParrotHead bloke.


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  24. Hey, at least it not aboriginal and military Tourette’s , along with 35 year year old quotes and rhetorical questions.

    It’s thanksgiving, so let’s be thankful for even small mercies.


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  25. It’s Thursday night & there’s been three inches of rain & still falling, nobody can get near the pub even if they ventured out.

    But you’re here every evening getting beaten up. Every night is Thursday night at the truck stop it seems.


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  26. at least it not aboriginal and military Tourette’s

    There’s only one person on here who suffers from Tourette’s Syndrome.
    Only one person types daily calling other commenters the ‘f’, ‘m’, ‘i’, ‘c’, words with repetitious monotony.

    Now that you’re out of lockdown, you should seek professional help.
    It’s an illness – we want you to recover & not be afflicted any longer by this embarrassing shortcoming you so wantonly exhibit.


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  27. They put a filter on Joe Rogan to make him look like the Emperor from Star Wars.

    Do what must be done, Lord Malice.

    Execute Order 420. Put two tonnes of DMT in the Los Angeles & Austin resivoirs!


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  28. But you’re here every evening getting beaten up.

    Not by you.
    You can’t even back up one of your claims. (Yes, you are that dumb)

    Every night is Thursday night at the truck stop it seems.

    Please explain……


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  29. Salvation Army Wants White Donors to Offer “Sincere Apology” for Their Racism

    This would be the same Salvation Army that put charity donations to work providing thousands of meals in Brisbane for G-20 protestors.


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  30. Driller, go dust the bar.

    How to ‘dust’ anything when it’s rained about 5″ tonight & still falling?

    (You’re not very good at this, are you?)


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  31. The golden age will end as soon as the power goes off.

    I’ve been reading a lot about oil and oil reserves this week.
    Proven reserves will last until 2070. That’s misleading, though, because “proven reserves” is a technical term indicating fields with an entire discovery and drilling superstructure in place. There are probably massive – massive – reserves above and beyond the “proven”.

    F-ing Saudis. How lucky are those bums?


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  32. rickw,

    looks pretty good, I’m on a similar regime. i have zinc 50mg and vitamin d3 5000iu and NAC 600mg once a day.

    quercetin 800mg (or 250g quercetin micel) and vitamin c 500mg twice a day, bumping vit c to 1g twice a day on next order.

    I’d really bump up your c and d3 intake.

    also i-mask has been updated to use Black Cumin Seed Oil if ivermectin isn’t available, I’ve ordered some softgel caps from iherb.


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  33. CL

    I know I’ll may get some schtick here for saying this, but I really think the oil era is going to end perhaps in 30 to 50 years.

    We’re going to get to a point where electricity will cost a couple of cents per kilowatt as a result of nuclear power and this likely means electric cars at least for commuting.


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  34. Thirteen hour day and 53 tonnes of wheat in the bin.

    Six lamb loin chops and baked spuds for dinner, all washed down with a fine vintage Carlton Draught.

    Lying WA ex MP Barry Urban (ALP) in the clink for three years for lying to Parliament, faking uni records and wearing fake medals.

    I am off to the sack at sundown like Grandad used to do. Methinks I may be getting too old for this “work” thing.

    ‘Nite Cats.


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  35. Can’t afford to repair a leaky roof.

    Me too poor to fix de roof.
    That circumstance will change after you lose the bet.

    Don’t try to welch.


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  36. My thoughts and prayers are with you Rick.
    I will continue to pray for your family. Please keep us posted.

    Thanks P, I’ve been praying about the work situation, maybe I should have been more explicit about how I preferred it be resolved!, I think catching it gives you a 6 month stay on vacation! 🙂


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  37. rickw,

    take 5000iu of d3 and at least double your vitamin c, it aids absorption of quercetin which is really hard to absorb. the micel version apparently 10x more absorbant.

    if you thought you may have contracted bat aids, personally I’d be tripling doses of pretty much everything.

    imask also recommends gargling with betadine, and saline baths of the nose, as the virus apparently lives in throat and nose.

    you’ll still have natural immunity and an exemption so no need to let it do a number on you!


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  38. F-ing Saudis. How lucky are those bums?

    not as lucky as those Oz bastards who are swimming in it and the reason that NGO’s are financed by everyone to shut Australia down.


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  39. From https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/crossbench-to-run-a-ruler-over-labor-s-pandemic-bill-proposal-20211125-p59c3t.html (yeah, I know, but it has the following that I was looking for):

    Where do the crossbenchers stand?

    Fiona Patten REASON PARTY

    Will support the bill after successfully pushing for amendments.

    Andy Meddick ANIMAL JUSTICE PARTY

    Will support the bill after successfully pushing for amendments.

    Samantha Ratnam GREENS

    Will support the bill after successfully pushing for amendments.

    Clifford Hayes SUSTAINABLE AUSTRALIA PARTY

    Is willing to negotiate for changes. “I want to see that the provisions are disallowable by either house of Parliament, that’s the main one.”

    Rod Barton TRANSPORT MATTERS PARTY

    Also open to changes, and is working with the crossbench and the government on a deal. “All of us understand that the government does need some of these powers, but they just can’t have unfettered powers,” he told ABC radio.

    Catherine Cumming INDEPENDENT

    Is open to negotiations, and wants everyone in the upper house to be consulted, but wants no vaccine or mask mandates. “I will not be supporting any legislation that mandates this community for masks or vaccinations.”

    Jeff Bourman SHOOTERS FISHERS AND FARMERS PARTY

    Said he was not interested in negotiations, and the government would need to redraft the whole bill to secure his support.

    Stuart Grimley DERRYN HINCH’S JUSTICE PARTY

    Said he has voiced his concerns to the Attorney-General, nine months after he should have been given the opportunity. “The pandemic bill as it stands is a gift-wrapped state of emergency. It’s akin to putting lipstick on a pig.”

    Tania Maxwell JUSTICE PARTY

    “We have put our concerns to the government and that hasn’t changed.”

    David Limbrick LIBERAL DEMOCRATS

    Have ruled themselves out of negotiations.

    Tim Quilty LIBERAL DEMOCRATS

    Have ruled themselves out of negotiations.

    Adem Somyurek INDEPENDENT

    Has said he will not support the bill.



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  40. Lying WA ex MP Barry Urban (ALP) in the clink for three years for lying to Parliament, faking uni records and wearing fake medals.

    Best place for the lying prick.

    Thirteen hour day and 53 tonnes of wheat in the bin.

    H2 is selling for $450 a tonne….


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  41. C.L. says:
    November 25, 2021 at 9:16 pm
    Good Lord. Is Paul Murray being paid a retainer by Scott Morrison’s office?

    He admitted on air once that they socialise, in other words – friends.


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  42. Rod Barton TRANSPORT MATTERS PARTY

    < < < “…All of us understand that the government does need some of these powers, …,” he told ABC radio. > > >

    FMD.


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  43. Peak oil is a myth. Consider gas methane hydrates and abiotics. Oil is never going to run out. As a matter of interest the biggest deposit of liquid hydrocarbons in the solar system is on Titan.


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  44. Peak oil is a myth. Consider gas methane hydrates and abiotics. Oil is never going to run out

    Oils was firstly supposed to run out in 1897, then by 1914….


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  45. Gents (JC, Salvatore at present and at other times certain others), as a long term lurker and rare poster, I come to this blog for some serious commentary on matters economic political and or general interest, and moreso lately about medical and authoritarian and governmental overreach and some amusement. The generally high quality of various posts, links to very informative material has been most appreciated and informative.
    The personal invective and crude insults are very unbecoming, detract from the general standard and derail any discussion.
    They are cheap, lazy and juvenile.
    Please give it a rest. Disagree by all means, but do so as adults. Please.


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  46. Dom updates the plan

    Bastards. They’re having the time of their lives micromanaging our lives. Just wait until winter when they’ll regretfully ratchet it all up again, for our own good, of course.


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  47. Please give it a rest. Disagree by all means, but do so as adults. Please.

    Totally agree.
    JC is free to stop cheap shot baseless unprovoked insults – at any time.
    Nobody is forcing him to take cheap shots.


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  48. Remarkable

    How do you feel about the aboriginal and military Tourette’s , the bignoting , the blowharding, narcissistic pubbling, outbacking and croc dundeeing? Do you get a little tired of it.?


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  49. We’re going to get to a point where electricity will cost a couple of cents per kilowatt

    lol
    when the technology develops, and there’s broad market penetration and much competition
    that’s when prices will drop


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  50. cohenite says:
    November 25, 2021 at 10:22 pm
    Peak oil is a myth. Consider gas methane hydrates and abiotics. Oil is never going to run out. As a matter of interest the biggest deposit of liquid hydrocarbons in the solar system is on Titan.

    Obviously from all the dinosaurs that once roamed freely on the surface….


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  51. Peak oil is a myth. Consider gas methane hydrates and abiotics. Oil is never going to run out. As a matter of interest the biggest deposit of liquid hydrocarbons in the solar system is on Titan.

    Peak oil in terms of the extraction technology used at the time the comment is made has some validity. It’s not the oil is in short supply. It’s the way its extracted or the field is exhausted and it becomes uneconomic to take out oil.

    Pennsylvania was where it was at in the US when oil began to become important. Extraction ended there because it ran dry with the technology at the time. The oil patch moved elsewhere. Ironically fracking has brought it back to Penn.

    Oils was firstly supposed to run out in 1897, then by 1914….

    No it wasn’t, you big fucking clown. There were no exact years for when it would dry up because there would never have been predictions of a dry beginning in exact year x or y. Go and count sheep and SFTU, you useless clown.


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  52. What the hell, Pedro?
    I thought you were retired.
    -CL.

    I am, CL, but Covid and locked borders has caused an acute labour shortage in the WA wheatbelt.
    Last year I was press ganged into working the wheat harvest dragging a chaser bin around as the Boss’s alternative was pretty much letting the crop rot in the paddock.

    I didn’t break any machinery, burn too much fuel or call in sick, so I was begged to repeat the exercise this year as once again the WA border shutdown has caused another labour shortage.

    I am being well paid, and fed and watered daily, picked up and dropped back off at Casa Pedro.

    The header is being driven by a 17 y.o boy (who is very competent), me, the old bloke on the chaser bin and the grain truck driven by a 22 y.o slip of a girl who has to sit on a cushion to see over the dash.

    Country Australia is a nice place to live.


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  53. We have a friend who owns a hobby farm in Pennsylvania. We were once walking around the property as it had some very nice vistas like a couple of water falls and creeks.

    There was a puddle of water in an area and it looked like there was oil on top of the puddle. He told me that was oil naturally flowing out of the ground.


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  54. Anyway, “Sliante” to all on the Cat.

    Those of you, with the good sense to own Westfarmers shares, are no doubt aware that, by this time next week, the $2 a share return on capital will have gone into your bank accounts….


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  55. Obviously from all the dinosaurs that once roamed freely on the surface….

    Dinosaurs had a sophisticated Space Elevator and catapult system that they used to launch their waste, corpses and political dissidents into deep space.

    Bruce Pascoe and Star Trek* told me so.

    * Yes indeed, Cats. Star Trek Voyager had an episode involving a race of Earth-descended Space Dinosaurs. Whose Establishment were as intolerant of any deviation from their established articles of faith as our woke elites are today…


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  56. The personal invective and crude insults are very unbecoming, detract from the general standard and derail any discussion.
    They are cheap, lazy and juvenile.
    Please give it a rest. Disagree by all means, but do so as adults. Please.

    No it wasn’t, you big fucking clown. There were no exact years for when it would dry up because there would never have been predictions of a dry beginning in exact year x or y. Go and count sheep and SFTU, you useless clown.

    Quite so?


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  57. Rones, the last time you bigoted about about dividends was BHP. After your bignoting the stock dumped about 25%. Before that,. you were caught lying.

    Don’t let the current boast cause Westfarmers to also collapse 25%. You’re like a cooler. You ought to sell yourself as a cooler to a Vegas casino.


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  58. Quite so?

    “Quite” so and “indeed” with a sprinkling of “your compliments” thrown in. Who said oil would dry up exactly in those years. No one would make a serious prediction like that and if they did they would be laughed at. Who made such startlingly stupid predictions? Go!


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  59. Totally agree.
    JC is free to stop cheap shot baseless unprovoked insults – at any time.
    Nobody is forcing him to take cheap shots.

    Totally agree – he’s obviously past it all, and living in a fantasy world of how he, Michael Milkin, Ivan Boesky and Dennis Levine were the “Princes of Wall Street.”


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  60. TE (via The Mocker on Gunner)
    I realise now that one is either pro-vaccination mandates or an anti-vaxxer, and that there is nothing in between. My epiphany would not have happened but for Gunner’s magisterial display…

    Interesting little column. The Mocker has previously derided anyone who hasn’t had/wouldn’t have the jab – so-called anti-vaxxer crowd.

    Now he’s been subjected to the same pejoratives used to embarrass and bully the un-jabbed. But what he’s just realised is that when it becomes necessary for political advantage anyone can be blacklisted (and removed) by the “servants of the people.”


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  61. Totally agree – he’s obviously past it all, and living in a fantasy world of how he, Michael Milkin, Ivan Boesky and Dennis Levine were the “Princes of Wall Street.”

    Rones, the person living in a fantasy is you, you complete clown. You were caught lying about how much BHP dividend you received as it would have meant you owned 600,000 BHP shares, which at their recent peak would have meant $43 million. You were lying and laughably caught out. There’s still the longstanding bet you don’t anything like that, but of course you would never go near that.

    You’ve self identified as old money. Look, it’s customary on the left these days to identify however you like. You can identify as a man, woman, a gay antelope , a cuckold or even old money, such as you. We’re not judgemental. But you are cringeworthy ridiculous.


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  62. I think “Old Money Tourettes” is getting a pretty fair run.
    “BHP Dividend Tourettes” running a close second.


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  63. “Old Money” blah blah blah
    “BHP divident” blah blah blah

    It’s like listening to a vegan, only with extra verbal diarrhoea.


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  64. Encourage the eggplant. Great effort, Driller.

    Learn to use the scroll wheel.
    It’s not difficult.
    Everybody else has to use twenty times per day when you spew your “BHP dividend/Old Money tourettes”


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  65. The Sunshine Coast protests this weekend.

    Yesterday I advised that a nurses’s protest was to take place at 10 a.m. this Saturday at La Balsa Park, Kawana.

    This evening I was informed the day is SUNDAY, not Saturday as I had believed. I’m a bit confused, and not being on faceache will have to seek confirmatory info tomorrow.

    My apologies if I have lead anyone astray.


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  66. In Central Queensland this Saturday 27th, 12:00 noon:

    Rainbow Fountain, Central Park
    Cnr Murray and George Streets
    Rockhampton

    Millions March against Mandatory Vaccination and Passports
    #Reclaim the Line


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  67. Only communists believe in limited resources, including peak oil.

    Say what? Surely there is @ finite amount of oil. Unless the comsumption falls below the rate of production by geological processes, we will at some unknown future time see the price rise and availability begin t9 decline. Peak oil will come. Self evident fact.


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  68. MatrixTransform says:
    November 25, 2021 at 11:05 pm

    the missus is telling me that the Bat Eared Mong was on the telly today pimping a new tunnel from Boxhill to Cheltenham.

    Been on the cards for a couple of years. Yet to hear anyone outside the government say it’s wanted or needed. Perhaps dear leader was worried his legacy would not be both enough or he owed the union big time. The only material effect I’ve seen so far is a heap of protest signs in Heatherton/Kingston Road towards Moorabbin Airport.

    If it ever gets that far as it will be like the Outer Circle line at 1/10th the speed.


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  69. Learn to use the scroll wheel.
    It’s not difficult.
    Everybody else has to use twenty times per day when you spew your “BHP dividend/Old Money tourettes”

    Practice what you preach you hypocritical piece of shit. You scroll whenever I’m mocking the Rones, because it’s not going to stop until the low IQ, unintelligent swine is gone for good.


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  70. You were caught lying about how much BHP dividend you received as it would have meant you owned 600,000 BHP shares, which at their recent peak would have meant $43 million. You were lying and laughably caught out. There’s still the longstanding bet you don’t anything like that, but of course you would never go near that.

    Poor demented old sausage, and he wonders why no-one takes him seriously, when he talks about starting his career with a Frog bank, no wait, it was the trading arm of Elders……..


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  71. Quercetin 500mg
    Zinc + 25mg Zinc
    Vitamin D3 1000iu
    Vitamin C 500mg

    Good start but the Zinc and D dose are pretty low – D in particular might need up to 10,000 per day – the ‘reference ranges’ are to avoid fractures in old ladies, and are too low for immune support – get your Dr to do levels, if you can stand the COVID lectures

    No Ivermectin available that isn’t for animal use.

    Nothing wrong with Veterinary Iver if your craven GP wont prescribe it. I have trial run ‘Eraquel ‘ horse pellets – dont be put off by the ‘horse drug’ smear campaign – if we stopped using drugs in humans which were also used in animals there would be nothing left, including pain killers, anaesthetics, antibotics, anti inflammatories etc etc etc


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  72. Say what? Surely there is @ finite amount of oil. Unless the comsumption falls below the rate of production by geological processes, we will at some unknown future time see the price rise and availability begin t9 decline. Peak oil will come. Self evident fact.

    We could run out of oil. Who is to say we can’t. We almost ran out of whale oil, but we always find substitutes.


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  73. you hypocritical piece of shit

    Tourettes.

    it’s not going to stop until the low IQ, unintelligent swine is gone for good.

    Get help.
    You are on unhealthily obsessed sicko.

    You’re halfway to being off your rocker.


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  74. You scroll whenever I’m mocking the Rones, because it’s not going to stop until the low IQ, unintelligent swine is gone for good.

    Foghorn Leghorn, the New York tough guy has spoken. Dream on, Joe. Really tough behind your computer screen and as nice as pie to any Cats you meet face to face…there’s a word for that…


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  75. Those of you, with the good sense to own Westfarmers shares, are no doubt aware that, by this time next week, the $2 a share return on capital will have gone into your bank accounts….

    Pity the ‘greeter’ who used to awkwardly ask about my day as I entered the store has now metastasized into a ‘Covid Nazi’ who hisses at me if I stand too close


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  76. Poor demented old sausage, and he wonders why no-one takes him seriously, when he talks about starting his career with a Frog bank, no wait, it was the trading arm of Elders……..

    The Rones rose to zero in the military and then began counting sheep. He then pretends he was the inspiration for 50’s movies on big farming (in a desert).
    He’s obsesses where I worked. An eggplant has more brains.


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  77. Say what? Surely there is @ finite amount of oil.

    still got the whalers out there.

    so when is peak oil???

    and now “climate change” will have to swing over to freezing cold.

    Arctic Ice expands.

    Ships frozen in.


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  78. Foghorn Leghorn, the New York tough guy has spoken. Dream on, Joe. Really tough behind your computer screen and as nice as pie to any Cats you meet face to face…there’s a word for that…

    Lol.. Rones, it’s never going to stop until you’re gone. I told you years ago that you weren’t suited to these sites and that hasn’t changed. In fact you’ve gotten worse.

    Yes, I’m nice to people I Iike. Nothing wrong with that. You have no friends which is why you’re here all the time and why you’re called Ronery. You’re a despicable bignoting zero. Have you stopped calling all the hot war guys nosing around about what they did in the military? Most of them can’t fucking stand you. They think you’re a complete wanker.


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  79. Earth has more energy, water and space for people to live in than the communists will allow.

    20 Billion people would not stretch Earth’s capacity and no-one would have to eat bugs nor maggots.


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  80. flyingduk

    How do they test for COVID?
    Is it still the inappropriate & inaccurate PCR test?
    What are testing for – the spike protein?
    If yes, how do they tell a COVID spike protein from a “vaxxine” spike protein?

    thanks,
    tony


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  81. Yet to hear anyone outside the government say it’s wanted or needed

    travelled from Tarneit to Chelsea today.

    GPS said take the M1 and go Eatlink … arrival 19:50

    So anyway, I went off at Forster Rd and the GPS worked out that going Westall Rd onto Springvale would be best
    Arrival … yep, 19:50

    Well screw you Alexa I said and got off Westall onto Dingly Bypass so I could catch the newly opened Mordialloc freeway which, effectively drops me at my doorstep

    Arrival … says the GPS … 19:50

    got home at 19:50

    cant wait for the new tunnel


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  82. Rick I had a mate years ago that could do work like that, wouldn’t work for anyone else and hopeless working for himself. Piss got hold of him. What a waste.


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  83. This is what Joe regards as reasonable debate on this blog……just remind me, what unit were you? Chucked out of High school cadets, for smoking in uniform?

    No, what I regard as reasonable debate, you piece of shit, is something you can never offer here because you’re stupid and despicable in every way possible. If you’re not touretting about the military or picking on aboriginals you’re posting stupid quotes. Face facts, your stupid and you have no redeeming qualities. Everything about you sucks. Also, I can’t imagine that if you carried on bignoting yourself in the military as you do here, other guys wouldn’t have given you a serious hiding. No one acts the way you have, you fraud, in front of other men and gets away with that bullshit longterm. I bet you copped beatings. I bet you did.


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  84. I’ll make a prediction of Earth’s Population Limit, 40 Billion!

    communist Fkheads have so focused on shoving people into mega-cities that they can control that they have entirely missed the swathes of empty land in most countries.


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  85. you piece of shit

    you’re stupid and despicable in every way possible

    Face facts, your stupid

    Everything about you sucks.

    you fraud

    Unhealthy obsession confirmed.
    You really are at the tipping point of insanity.
    Step back & take a look at yourself.


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  86. Not really Driller. He needs to go and so do you. You’re both are blog wreckers. Seriously, both of you would be much better off at Smith’s. It’s the sort place that suits both of you. Think about it. There’s a couple more too that ought to follow.


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  87. The Sci Fi books, Foundation suggested about 40 billion but across the galaxy.

    Azimov may have been suggesting a tad more than 40 billion across the galaxy.

    As I remember it was Terminus that had a population of 40 billion.


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  88. As I remember it was Terminus that had a population of 40 billion.

    Was that the planet that sounded like a planet sized NYC.? They did something like that in an earlier Star Wars and it looked just fantastic 🙂


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  89. He needs to go and so do you.

    What you need is of little concern nor of any consequence to me.
    Deal with that.

    If you can’t deal with that. Delete your account.


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  90. Was that the planet that sounded like a planet sized NYC.? They did something like that in an earlier Star Wars and it looked just fantastic

    I think NYC is stuffed.

    Cannot see there won’t be a division in USA between Red and Blue States.

    LOL… Pelosi bought into Florida.


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  91. Scroll driller, scroll

    You’re learning Krugman.
    I’ve a very good teacher.
    There’s quite a few lessons I could give you.

    You’d be a good student. I’ve taught some incredibly stupid people to perform tasks far more complex than how to use a scroll wheel.

    So given enough tuition you should be able to master the task.


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  92. Driller, you’re just sad.

    Yes, broke, no money, no friends, no staff, no hope.
    I’ve got tourettes, my family war cry sucks, my military history makes people laugh, etc.
    You list my sadnesses several times each day.

    Anything else I should be sad about?
    Enquiring minds want to know.


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  93. I know! I’ll cheer myself up by….. moving to Melbourne, driving around in a pansymobile critiquing people’s guttering, I’ll wear clothing inspired by queer-eye-for-the-straight-guy, frequent coffee shops, go to restaurants.

    My life will be wonderful, & I’ll be ever so happy.
    Such a lifestyle would make one a very gay fellow.


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  94. I’ll wear clothing inspired by queer-eye-for-the-straight-guy,

    White, ironed Dolche and Gabbana jeans, polished leather tasseled loafers, and a topee will do that for you every time.


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  95. White, ironed Dolche and Gabbana jeans, polished leather tasseled loafers, and a topee will do that for you every time.

    I don’t know what that word-salad even means, or even what language it is in.

    First thing I’ll have to do upon reaching Melbournibad will be book myself in for some language lessons.
    Y’know, get rid of the broad drawl, speak faster, flatten the dipthongs, drop the Australian idioms.

    I’ll start the immersion now, by listening to recordings of Adam Bandt & Brett Sutton on endless loop.


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  96. Yea Driller , we should all be blue singlet wearing tough guys running a leased pub in the middle of Malariaville . You clown.

    Why not? It’s manly.

    Btw, you got a reference for the “leased” part?
    Just concerned for you, wouldn’t want you to be caught lying (again). If you lose another bet to me I’ll be house hunting in Toorak instead of Dandenong.


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  97. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
    November 26, 2021 at 12:37 am

    I’ll wear clothing inspired by queer-eye-for-the-straight-guy,

    White, ironed Dolche and Gabbana jeans, polished leather tasseled loafers, and a topee will do that for you every time.

    Oh look, the laughable wanker, the clown, who told us in all seriousness he’s wears RM Williams neck to toes and an Akubra hat… in London then makes up delusional nonsense about me while forming a posse with Driller.

    Recall when you told us how you were that stupid uniform overseas, you ridiculous cringeworthy cuckold? We do.


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  98. wears RM Williams neck to toes and an Akubra hat… in London

    Er.. you realise RM has a retail shop in London.
    People actually buy that stuff & wear it.

    Much of RM’s stuff is of English origin (no surprise) & quite some Aussie apparel is merely a minor modification on the English original.

    I’ve seen people wearing nothing but an orange bath towel in London, on the street.


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  99. Rones is a cuckold.

    You seem obsessed with this talk of rooting the neighbour’s wife.

    Anything you need to share?


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  100. How much is the bet on this?

    Don’t hold breath anyone, this is yet another one that Krugman will squib on.


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  101. Er.. you realise RM has a retail shop in London.
    People actually buy that stuff & wear it.

    Head to toe and an akubra hat to go with the uniform. Just imagine the idiot.

    Much of RM’s stuff is of English origin (no surprise) & quite some Aussie apparel is merely a minor modification on the English original.

    Wow , who knew.

    I’ve seen people wearing nothing but an orange bath towel in London, on the street.

    Which does or doesn’t make them wankers, along with Akubra hatted , RM Williams wearing wankers walking around London. And how would you know , Driller? You claimed to hate visiting big cities and don’t spend time in them. How would you know as you live in Malariaville.

    Also you ran that blog of yours from ~2005 to 2013. You said you went to some shithole in Asia. You’ve never been to the UK or Europe the past two decades.


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  102. You’ve never been to the UK or Europe the past two decades.

    How much is the bet on this one?

    (I could make serious money here, if he doesn’t welch)


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  103. You seem obsessed with this talk of rooting the neighbour’s wife.

    Anything you need to share?

    The Rones certainly shared 🙂

    How much is the bet on this?

    That you don’t own the property? I don’t think you were lying on your own blog Driller. You claimed to own the leasehold – not the freehold. Do you own the Freehold? I know your name and place of business so I could check and come back to you here. Do you mind if I post the details I find here? 🙂


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  104. I know your name and place of business

    Oh my Gaaard… it’s a doxxing thrett.
    I’m so panicky, sweaty palms, goose bumps, tightening in the chest.
    Don’t know how I’ll cope.

    Oh yeah… whisky will do it…. * chug *…. after that…. okay, now where were we?
    Oh yeah, you were about to lose a bet with me.

    Not sure your cheque would be a good idea, you’ll require direct deposit details, right?


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  105. And it’s blog, not blogs

    No, I’ve always run 4 blogs.
    They’re now locked. You cannot see fresh posts.

    Deal with it.


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  106. No, I’ve always run 4 blogs.
    They’re now locked. You cannot see fresh posts.

    Deal with it.

    Driller, you ran Public house from 2005 to 2018. It’s not locked and has a total of ~23 comments. If you’re running 4 blogs then why are you always here and at the other Cat? You bullshit artist. You sociopathic liar.


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  107. If you’re running 4 blogs then why are you always here and at the other Cat?

    My dog is likewise mystified by the working of internal combustion engines.

    Something things, it would seem, are beyond your ken.
    Deal with that.


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  108. I know your name and place of business

    Oh my Gaaard… it’s a doxxing thrett.
    I’m so panicky, sweaty palms, goose bumps, tightening in the chest.
    Don’t know how I’ll cope.

    You don’t have to worry. I’d never dox you like you pal is trying to do and what Arky did you me. Your secret is safe with me. I’ve known for years and I just said I know because of what the Ronery just did and also because I don’t believe you own the freehold. If you do, prove it because you said once you don’t. Also a fence repairer, you never make enough money to own the freehold even with a deposit. Driller , stop lying.


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  109. Leave a message in the “contact us” window on business webpage.
    It’ll pop straight through to me.
    We’re open for another couple of hours.


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  110. Also a fence repairer, you never make enough money to own the freehold even with a deposit

    Explain why not?
    Go into as much detail as you feel you need to.

    (This is your way of squibbing out of the bet)

    Btw how much is the bet that I’ve not been to Europe or UK for ages?
    (I can see me clearing my mortgage in one night at this rate)


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  111. Yeah, coz Andrew Bolt told you.

    Why would you say that as I don’t know Bolt.

    I really don’t care who you are as you’re driller to me and always will be.


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  112. Why would you say that as I don’t know Bolt.

    If he didn’t tell you, who did?
    Shorto? Tony Burke? Penny Wong? Richard Colbeck? Michael Jeffrey?


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  113. Explain why not?
    Go into as much detail as you feel you need to.

    Because you wouldn’t have earned enough money . Thats why
    Also, you claimed to own the leasehold.

    (This is your way of squibbing out of the bet)

    Nope as I never offered the bet so I can’t squib. Just like I offered you the bet on the Starbucks stuff you lied about.

    Btw how much is the bet that I’ve not been to Europe or UK for ages?
    (I can see me clearing my mortgage in one night at this rate)

    As in the past 17 years? From 2005 to 2018 in particular ? I pretty sure you haven’t, otherwise, being a blowhard you would have mentioned it like you me mentioned you went to Asia on your blog.


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  114. Because you wouldn’t have earned enough money.

    Why not?
    Besides, how much can a deposit possibly be, for a pissant little pub like mine?
    (pretty stupid answer, even for you)

    Also, you claimed to own the leasehold.

    Never.

    I never offered the bet

    You never will either, Mr. “big bet” man.
    You haven’t the balls.


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  115. Btw how much is the bet that I’ve not been to Europe or UK for ages?

    I pretty sure you haven’t

    That… is the sound of you walking it back.

    Your falsehoods are rather too easy to pick apart.
    Your name sure ain’t gonna pop up at one of the secret chiefs of ASIS.

    (Then again, consider the klutz reputation of ASIS, you may actually be one of the chiefs)


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  116. C.L.says:
    November 25, 2021 at 9:16 pm
    Good Lord. Is Paul Murray being paid a retainer by Scott Morrison’s office?

    Quislings are very good at exploiting confirmation.


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  117. Stop blathering & put up some money!

    Driller, this was posted by you in January 2010 on your unread blog. Unless you can show us the title then you’re lying about owning the freehold. You’re such a wanker. You refer to yourself as Mine Wanker. After the Rones, you’re the second most dishonest bignoting blowhard here.

    Marching Orders Part #6
    Law firm Ding, Dong & Dell had acted for Mine Host for many years. They were privy to all his affairs.

    Mine Host becomes embroiled in a dust-up with his landlord. The landlord, an arm of a merchant bank, is named (say) McBank.

    Mine Host was being shafted by the landlord. In hindsight this was landlord’s original intention.



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  118. Navy Sailors Forced to Take Out Loans Due to Biden Pay Delays — As Democrats Pass Trillion Dollar Bills for Amnesty and Green New Deal

    Not paying your military is a good way to get an insurrection going, but I note that it’s Navy, probably the least dangerous branch to government. Bet the army and marines got paid.


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  119. Mine Host becomes embroiled in a dust-up with his landlord. The landlord, an arm of a merchant bank, is named (say) McBank.

    Very curious but what has this got to do with putting Dan Andrews in prison for covering up his wife’s DUI?


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  120. Australian theocracy:

    Idiot Boy Bishop Morrison is appointed by a Sanhedrin of dangerous unelected idiots and puppets (some elected) whom impose random and arbitrary rules on the behest of fanatical prophets of East German authoritarianism, Kneel bin-Mitchell and Rei al-Hadley.

    The Science (TM) changes whenever these two change their underwear.


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  121. Not paying your military is a good way to get an insurrection going, but I note that it’s Navy, probably the least dangerous branch to government. Bet the army and marines got paid.

    The Army can have an Abrams MBT and salary cakewalk, but we’ve got the MIRVs.

    That’s right, two words, nuclear fuckin’ weapons!


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  122. Dot , I have no idea, ask Mine Blowhard ( The Driller). Last evening Mine Bloward was denying he had a leasehold. Unless that’s changed, since 2010, then he needs to show proof to all of us. It’s not important but he made it so because Mine Blowahard was suggesting I was lying about it but of course, I wasn’t. There’s absolutely no reason to ever lie about The Rones and The Driller as their stories are a gold mine of bullshit. Rones gets caught lying about his net worth in order to aggrandize himself while the Driller lies about his ownership. It’s sad as they’re both very damaged imbeciles.


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  123. Good Lord. Is Paul Murray being paid a retainer by Scott Morrison’s office?

    Going on David Rowe’s cartoon there’s fear that Peter Dutton could replace Scotty.
    That would be a positive change, so it’s unlikely to happen.


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  124. I was asked to do a favour for an old guy.
    Turns out he doesn’t have a mobile phone or email.
    I’m still going to do it, but I’m pissed at the guy who originally asked me.
    He must have known dealing with hard copy everything & snail mail are two things I hate the most.


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  125. Going on David Rowe’s cartoon there’s fear that Peter Dutton could replace Scotty.
    That would be a positive change, so it’s unlikely to happen.

    Positive change as in possibly reducing the chances to zero of the libs attaining power again at the next election with unpopular Dutton as the next PM?


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  126. I wanted to post on this but haven’t much of late until yesterday.

    The excerpt below is hilarious for a host of reasons.

    It comes from here.

    Comments will be curated based on the philosophy that the article above encapsulates. My philosophy. Not libertarianism.

    It appears to suggest he has absolutely no idea what “libertarianism” means. But it means exactly what he’s implying – in that the owner of the piece has the right to determine what gets added as comments and what gets removed. It’s actually basic libertarian understanding.

    Moreover, he appears to always be very critical of libertarians and he was and is often droning on about “stupid libertarians” this or “stupid libertarians” that, particularly at the old Catallaxy – ironically a libertarian blog. He’s allows himself the right to post comments at the old place criticizing libertarianism, but will remove any comments critical of his own stupid shit. Ooookkkkaaayy that works as a philosophy I guess, but I wouldn’t be advertising it and I’d be trying to cover for the glaring gap.


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  127. If approved, SPIKEVAX (commonly known by the name of its manufacturer, Moderna) could become the first vaccine in Australia available to children under 12.

    “In making its decision to grant Moderna a provisional determination, the TGA considered evidence of a plan to submit comprehensive clinical data in relation to use in children,” the TGA said in a statement.

    So Moderna have a plan to observe the effects of it’s vaccine on your children, and grandchildren, after it’s been mandated?

    …and the TGA thinks this is a selling point!

    It sounds remarkably like the recording methodology of a lab experiment.


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  128. They gotta keep the fear going on, and on, and on, and ….

    Scientists have raised an urgent alarm about a new covid variant which was first spotted in Botswana which “spreads very quick’’ and has a “very unusual constellation of mutations’’.

    The World Health Organisation working group on virus evolution has called an emergency meeting and Britain is looking at whether to impose a travel ban on arrivals from Africa and South Africa to try and slow the spread of the variant.

    The WHO is meeting on Friday to decide whether to classify the new variant, B.1.1.529 as the next letter in the Greek alphabet, “Nu’’.

    South Africa‘s Health Minister Joe Phaahla warned the variant was a major threat in his country, having sparked an ’exponential’ increase in covid cases in just days. “Initially it looked like the spike in cases were cluster outbreaks, but the indication is now there is a new variant’’ he said.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/coronavirus-australia-live-news-who-calls-crisis-meeting-over-new-s-african-variant/live-coverage/d13616f33c442ad8ce27dd371cadcbd8


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  129. Austrian doctors suggest a new low.

    Vice President of the Lower Austrian Medical Association Gerrit Loibl has suggested that the government should levy a monthly fine of up to €100 to anyone unvaccinated.

    Loibl has suggested that those who have not been vaccinated should pay between €90 and €100 (£78-£84/$90-$113) per month to the government, claiming that the amount is based on the current tax on tobacco products.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/11/25/unvax-tax-expert-proposes-monthly-fines-for-the-unvaccinated/


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  130. Zat, is the legislation coming before De Blasio or will it wait for the new guy? The new dude doesn’t appear to be a leftwing loon like De Blasio and even De Blasio doesn’t support it.

    ————-
    Please note everyone. Sure,
    Italian heritage has to carry the heavy burden of Nancy Peleso attempting to ruin America. It’s hard to live down.

    Do not be under any misapprehension though that De Blasio is of Italian descent. The depraved loon, is I believe, of Dutch descent and the De Blasio name comes from his mother’s second marriage.

    Ruining the country and also ruining the greatest city in that country is just too much and needed clarifying 🙂


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  131. If I were to shout “Kill all traitors”
    Would that upset anyone here?
    I mean we don’t have any traitors in Australia do we?
    And if we do, should they not be put up against a wall and shot?
    Surely that’s not a threeat to anyone.
    What if I said Kill Klaus……….would the Australian police come knocking at my door when he is in Germany, a German and I’m not saying anything Mullahs and many others call for daily toward Christians and others?


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  132. JC

    Apparently de Blasio is against it, but the article mentions a “veto-proof” majority. If that’s true it doesn’t matter. The bill is ‘”expected to be approved on Dec 9″.

    I strongly suspect it will be fought in court on constitutional grounds almost immediately.


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  133. My apologies. I can’t blame the Dutch. This time it’s Germany and Ireland with the other half you know who.

    Bill de Blasio was born Warren Wilhelm Jr. on May 8, 1961. While he did not grow up in New York City, his parents drove from their home in Norwalk, Connecticut, to Manhattan’s Doctors Hospital for his birth.[1][2] He is the third son of Maria Angela (née de Blasio; 1917–2007) and Warren Wilhelm (1917–1979).[3] He changed his name to Warren de Blasio-Wilhelm in 1983 and to Bill de Blasio in 2001 to honor his maternal family and to reflect his alienation from his father.[1][4][5] De Blasio has two older brothers, Steven and Donald.[2] His mother was of Italian heritage, and his father was of German, English, French, and Scots-Irish ancestry.[6][7][8] His paternal grandparents were Donald Wilhelm, of Ohio, and Nina (née Warren), of Iowa.[9][10] His maternal grandfather, Giovanni, was from Sant’Agata de’ Goti, Benevento, and his grandmother, Anna (née Briganti), was from Grassano, Matera.[11][12] His paternal uncle, Donald George Wilhelm Jr., worked for the Central Intelligence Agency in Iran and ghostwrote the memoir of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the last shah of Iran.[13]

    Okay, I can half understand someone wanting to change their family name, but what kind of lunatic changes their first name?


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  134. “C.L.says:
    November 25, 2021 at 9:16 pm
    Good Lord. Is Paul Murray being paid a retainer by Scott Morrison’s office?

    Quislings are very good at exploiting confirmation”.

    I know it is awful that Morrison is such a cuck, but the thought of Albo, Wong, Bowen, Burke, Marles etc.

    It’s enough to make me take the Vax and booster.

    Make that ten boosters.


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  135. It’s newspeak.

    Yes. I wish they’d be honest, but it might scare people.

    From the TGA website:

    “the person who made the application under subsection 22C(1) of the Act has provided sufficient evidence of the plan to submit comprehensive clinical data on the safety and efficacy of the medicine before the end of the 6 years (starting on the day that provisional registration of the medicine would commence if the Secretary were to provisionally register the medicine).”

    It IS a lab experiment. A great big one. Most don’t even realise they are participating. Some are even offering up their children.


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  136. JC

    Apparently de Blasio is against it, but the article mentions a “veto-proof” majority. If that’s true it doesn’t matter. The bill is ‘”expected to be approved on Dec 9?.

    I strongly suspect it will be fought in court on constitutional grounds almost immediately.

    Zat, these loons are beyond disgusting.

    I can’t understand how blacks would support the demonrats any long when the entire demon effort is to make blacks redundant for election purposes by using the immigrant vote – legal or illegal. It’s just beyond me how they’re not 90% GOP.


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  137. We all know about the slippery slope argument, an argument that progressives always like to dismiss or mock….and yet time and time again this argument is proven right whether it’s about abortion, pornography, euthanasia, SSM and transgenderism. So we now live in a society where we have abortion at nine months, in the Netherlands and Belgian they’re euthanising children and teenagers and we are now saturated with the obscenity that is “transgenderism”…which at its core is a denial of biological reality. Note how since the legalisation of SSM in western countries the transgender movement has revved up and we are now witnessing the emergence of a very sinister movement, aimed at normalising adult attraction to children or as it is called in plain language…..pedophilia. When religions crash and religious leaders hide away, when societies trash their civilizational heritage, when social boundaries fall away, when social justice loses the plot and stops at legitimate battles, such as justice for homosexuals and moves onto “queer” theory, philosophy and acceptance, then we’re in big trouble.

    So, back in 2017, one of the reasons why I voted NO to SSM back was because, as far I was concerned at the time (and my views haven’t changed), it was being used as a Trojan horse for the normalisation of much more sinister progressive theories and practices…..and once again I’ve been proven right. When, as a society, will we say NO?

    Ayaan Hirsi Ali has written the following in the UK’s online magazine..”Unherd”….it’s very good…..

    “Paedophilia is not progressive
    Social justice campaigns have given up on morality

    Now that safe spaces and universal acceptance have become the norm, it is fashionable to tolerate all kinds of proclivities and inclinations in the name of diversity. But until recently, we respected the nebulous line that faintly dissects the parameters of what we consider to be good and evil. Not so today, where there is a growing campaign to destigmatise everything, even if doing so requires us to unpick the moral fabric of our society.

    How else are we to explain the two most disturbing causes trumpeted by modern progressives: of paedophilia and of polygamy? To some extent, they can’t be compared. Polygamy remains legal in a number of countries — from South Africa and Malaysia to Iran and Morocco. Paedophilia, on the other hand, has long been considered beyond the pale, and is effectively banned across the world. Most countries have an age of consent — and those that don’t, such as Sudan and Afghanistan, require a couple to be married before sex is legally allowed.

    And yet, in America of all places, activists are now campaigning for the destigmatisation of paedophilic desires. To remain horrified is bigoted; we need to feel empathy for the “suffering” that paedophiles face. What makes this movement even more disturbing is that its advocates are not confined to some progressive fringe: even those whose jobs it is to end child sexual abuse now support it.

    Only last week, Elizabeth Letourneau, Director of the Moore Center for the Prevention of Child Sexual Abuse at John Hopkins’s Bloomberg School of Public Health, tweeted: “Many adults with sexual attraction to children want help to control it, hate the feeling, don’t want to act on it. Helping them prevents #childsexualabuse. Stigmatizing the conversation puts kids at risk. #prevention.”

    She was responding to the debate sparked at Old Dominion University earlier this month, after word spread around campus that one of its professors, Allyn Walker, had released a book over the summer titled A Long, Dark Shadow: Minor-Attracted People and Their Pursuit of Dignity. The book, according to its blurb, “offers a crucial account of the lived experiences of this hidden population”. In reality, all it offers is a disconcerting defence of paedophilia.

    Walker, whose preferred pronouns are they/them, is concerned for the well-being of ‘minor-attracted people’ or MAPs, the new preferred term for individuals attracted to children. When asked about the use of MAPs in a recent interview, Walker responded: “I think it is important to use terminology for groups that members of that group want others to use for them. It is less stigmatising than other words like paedophile.” In other words: let’s not hurt the paedophiles’ feelings.

    Throughout the interview, Walker deploys terms taken straight from the social justice playbook — as if paedophilia were just another sexual preference in need of its own Pride. Activists talk of “lowering stigma”; of a minority that is “at-risk” and “universally maligned”. As far back as 2017, in a PhD thesis titled Understanding Resilience Strategies among Minor-Attracted Individuals, Walker notes how “child pornography as a harm reduction technique has previously been theorised to be a potential strategy for MAPs to maintain abstinence from sexual contact with children”.

    Although A Long, Dark Shadow was published in June, Old Dominion did not place Walker on leave until November 16th, after students began to protest. A petition was launched, making clear that paedophilia “should not be considered a sexual preference” and Walker should be fired. It has received more than 14,000 signatures.

    Yet despite such overwhelming condemnation from the student body, the university’s statement regarding the situation was short, vague, and inadequately critical of Walker’s views. For Walker, however, the university’s action reflected the “gravity of the threats to me and other people on campus”. Walker’s critics’ disapproval was part of a “coordinated effort” against the LGBTQ community and academic freedom.

    I am a firm defender of academic freedom. And I believe the problem of paedophilia needs to be studied. But that does not mean that we can ignore the danger destigmatising paedophilia poses to children. We should not be normalising the idea that it is tolerable to fantasise about sex with children. A university and a university press should not be pushing this kind of harmful material.

    And yet this dangerous tendency to tolerate every and any proclivity, no matter how wicked, has become widespread: along with paedophilia, polygamy — a practice which should have ended centuries ago — is making a comeback as an acceptable form of relationship. Last year, Utah enacted Senate Bill 102, which lowers the penalty for polygamy from a felony to an offence on par with a traffic summons, as long as the new spouse consents to the marriage. Even pop culture is embracing the trend. Just this week, millennial influencer Lauryn Bosstick posted her thoughts on polygamy to her 1 million Instagram followers: “i am in to freedom of choice. i don’t waste my energy worried about what people’s relationship choices are – everyone’s different. if not hurting anyone & it works for you, go for it.”

    But polygamy is harmful — to women, in particular, but also to society in general. Earlier this year, I interviewed Dr Dan Seligson on my podcast about its harms and dangers. He explained that polygamy actually breeds poverty in societies. It turns the human female into a commodity, destroys trust in society, and produces unhappiness in families. Growing up in Somalia, I have seen this all first-hand: my father had four wives. Not one of them was happy; not one of them thought their union was empowering.

    And yet proponents of polygamy in the US today model their movement on the successful (and legitimate) campaign for same-sex marriage, pretending it is a similar form of liberation. Two practising polygamists summed up this tactic in a peculiarly supportive recent New Yorker profile: “I wish people would be as accepting with us as we try to be of everyone else.”

    Here is where the slippery slope becomes a terrifying cliff face. Ingeniously, ‘minor-attracted people’ and polygamists are seeking the protection of the progressive umbrella. They want recognition as ‘maligned’ minorities who have been marginalised and overlooked by society. They want the freedom to love whomever they want, regardless of a person’s age or number of other partners. And it is working. The social justice movement is heeding their calls.

    At the core of what we are seeing today is an assault on Western civilisation. In the West, we have a general moral framework. We share a broad understanding of right and wrong. But our norms and values are under attack. We have abdicated our responsibility to make moral judgements — and evil has started to seep in.

    There will be some who claim that I am overreacting; that those arguing in favour of destigmatising paedophilia and polygamy are small groups who live in the dark corners of Twitter and will never have any real staying power. But the first steps have been taken. The path ahead is clear. As activists like Allyn Walker insinuate themselves into the social justice fold, the ranks of their warped campaigns will swell.

    I have been a vocal advocate for women, children, homosexuals, apostates, and religious minorities for the past two decades. I believe in giving the voiceless a voice. I have also been a free-speech fundamentalist. But there must be a red line. No matter the context, there will never be anything progressive about paedophilia or polygamy.”

    As always, Ayaan nails it. The progressive left loathe Ayaan because she’s a truth teller and the left doesn’t like truth.


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  138. struth says:
    November 26, 2021 at 7:45 am
    People still talking about domestic political parties!

    No, we’re about to talk about you that CSPAN will soon carry a special called Road To The White House featuring you.


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  139. If I were to shout “Kill all traitors”
    Would that upset anyone here?

    Not me. Although I would ask that a definition of ‘traitor’ be provided* as a baseline to determine who lives and who dies.

    A reasonable question would also be – who sits in judgment on the traitor? Because if these things haven’t been worked out, it’s just yelling from the open back window of a Kia Sportage driving past a football ground.

    *’Engaging in political or economic warfare’ is not a definition. It’s from the Australia One manifesto though, which for some reason has been yanked from the net.


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  140. Morrison now nagging for people to take boosters.

    I’m starting to feel like Edward G Robinson in “Soylent Green”*.

    * Interest fact: Made in 1973. Set in 2022 and a dystopian nightmare caused by “The Greenhouse Effect”.

    They just missed the bit about compulsory needles.


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  141. I know it is awful that Morrison is such a cuck, but the thought of Albo, Wong, Bowen, Burke, Marles etc.

    It’s enough to make me take the Vax and booster.

    Make that ten boosters.

    Like I said yesterday, if the outcome is the same why would anyone vote for either major party?

    You never know, Labor may only insist on nine boosters.


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  142. Crosstie please. The result is not the same.

    Compare states – NSW and Victoria as an example. Please , let’s not get to how bad the libs are as we’re talking relativities.


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  143. Joe Rogan amplifying the FIFA registers deaths story that has been doing the rounds.
    The numbers are pretty high.
    108 players & coaches in the last six months.
    The data looks pretty compelling.
    I wonder how many other pro sports have similar numbers.


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  144. I was amused by this one yesterday:

    Renewables set to drive down power bills (Sky News Oz, 25 Nov)

    Australian Energy Market Commission modelling shows bills will rise by about $20 between 2022 to 2023 – before dropping by $92.

    That must be some really fun modelling since everything I’ve seen and read says that the correlation between rising electricity prices and increasing renewables per capita is nearly perfect everywhere on Earth.

    Which brings me to this today:

    German Power Prices Soar As Arctic Blast To Bring “Significant Snow” (25 Nov)

    German day-ahead power prices jumped to the second-highest level ever, 273.89 euros per megawatt-hour. Day-ahead power prices are also higher in France and Netherlands.

    Ouch. All those wind turbines you built don’t seem to be helping much, German peoples. Remember it was your pollies who did this, as you freeze in the dark this winter.


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