2,998 thoughts on “Open Thread – Mon 13 Dec 2021”

  1. H B Bearsays:
    December 17, 2021 at 3:16 pm
    The laws of Queensland override the laws of science stuff.

    We already know Lord Waffleworth is not bound by the Laws of Physics.

    IIRC, it was the laws of mathematics in his case.


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  2. But when the transfer payments are spent?

    Weimar currency.

    An interesting experiment has just commenced. Barbados ditched QE2 as head of state as was widely reported. What hasn’t been widely reported is they’ve also gone full woke progressive socialist.

    Barbados primed for huge shake-up of tax system after breaking from Royal Family (14 Dec)

    A Barbados official has suggested that the universal basic income could materialise as a “citizen’s dividend”. Avinash Persaud, the Prime Minister of Barbados’s Special Envoy on Investment and Financial Services, took to Facebook to hint at these plans which will build on the country’s pre-existing social infrastructure. Barbados’s current reverse tax credit is the country’s “first foray” into a universal basic income, according to Mr Persaud.

    The reverse tax credit kicks in to add funds to a person’s salary if it does not reach a certain threshold.

    He detailed: “Despite all the pressure from international agencies to ‘target’ we hold the line on universality. That’s why we restored free tertiary education for all.

    Yay! Sit down money for everyone. And free education in wokery! Barbados soon will be like a utopia only better.


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  3. H B Bearsays:
    December 17, 2021 at 3:13 pm
    So Chairman Dan is a social media size queen? Anyone surprised?

    Not at all. He’s someone who’s always struck me as Vox Day’s gamma in the sociosexual hierarchy. Seeing Adem Somuyrek’s posts about him only reinforced it. The clown is all about how he’s a great alpha dog leader type, without any of the qualities an alpha actually brings. Would not surprise me if his wife is actually very unhappy.
    Alphas do play the game, but generally they don’t need to blackmail or threaten people into following them. Everything I’ve read about Danny’s history is he’s a vile little game player who badly needs to get punched in the face, but it never happened.
    Sadly its a case study on letting someone who should never be near any sort of power landing in that position. It’s all about making his image into what he fantasizes, but he will never be that. The only way for him to realise it is for his world to be utterly shattered, but that’s never happened.
    So all of victoria cops it. Damn it.


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  4. Lysander says:
    December 17, 2021 at 11:42 am

    McGowan Cabinet reshuffle today… Health Minister getting the boot…

    Amber-Jade Sanderson, who has served as Environment Minister since March, was announced as Mr Cook’s replacement.

    Before the March election, Ms Sanderson received praise from the Premier for her role in delivering Western Australia’s Voluntary Assisted Dying laws.

    ABC News


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  5. I’m taking the horror! stories about Notre Dame with a shovel of salt.
    The cathedral barely survived the French revolution and as noted the side altars are dark and dull with 19th century stuff.
    I made a commitment now to regular visits when it is reopened to the public in 2024. 🙂
    I have photos of the exterior renovations I took when I was there in February 2020.
    I’d forgotten about the fire and had wandered down there hoping to attend mass.


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  6. Has anyone noticed how many ‘stories’ at Their ABC are couched in terms of: here is a piece of what should be good news for the vast majority. But, not everyone agrees . Or, but ‘experts’ say there may be unforseen consequences. Or, indigenous groups/environmentalists/LGBT alphabet groups etc claim that there has not been enough consultation.

    It seems that the post-modernist version of balanced reporting is to dredge up everyone who disagrees with anything, especially if they are members of the Progressive Privilege hierarchy, and air their complaints uncritically, at length and in detail.

    I was about to comment on a report where, despite “overwhelming” opposition, something greenies didn’t like got through. However, it seems there is one remaining person there who knows the meaning of “overwhelming” and the report was changed before I posted.

    Poor sod.


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  7. Their ABCess with Benny Law and his fag hag.
    “My favourite meme for the year was the ship stuck in the Suez with the little excavator digging on the bow… the ship labelled “ structural racism” and the little digger as “ my employers anti discrimination policies”

    Radio off…


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  8. Winston Smithsays: December 17, 2021 at 3:29 pm

    Well, that was fun.
    Went shopping with one of my T shirts on, emblem displayed on left breast.
    Refused service in 3 pubs.
    Allowed into IGA.
    Allowed into Chemist.
    Allowed into Butchers.

    Good work Winston.
    Keep it up. Every day.


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  9. Omicron is on the loose, most likely out of any control so in 2022 we’ll have everyone who is going to get the coof, get it. People may start to wonder just what the last nearly two years has been about.

    And them people may start to demand a reckoning of the authorities.


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  10. Or, indigenous groups/environmentalists/LGBT alphabet groups etc claim that there has not been enough consultation.

    Heard that refrain this morning as the ABC reported that “traditional owners” & environmentalists objected to the granting of fossil fuel exploration leases in QLD’s channel country which might lead to the use of fracking.

    Not enough “consultation” – translates as “we didn’t get a right to veto the proposal.”

    Funny how any notion of the common good disappears from view whenever certain minorities are claiming special privileges over the rest of us.


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  11. As Crime Continues to Surge, California Residents Resort to Leaving Their Cars Parked With the Trunk Open

    Winston – I was expecting that to be a link to the Bee.
    Lately satire is reality that hasn’t quite arrived yet.


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  12. Miss Anthropist says:
    December 17, 2021 at 1:32 am

    JC,
    World of difference between being depressed and depression.
    That sort of macho posturing has probably led to any number of people necking themselves.
    I’ve had to deal with people with depression. Why people would think I would make a peer support counsel or I don’t know but it is an illness mor real than the omnicron.
    Sometimes dealing with them makes me want to neck them myself. But then that would make me a bad person. There is no justice.

    Miss, I just saw the comment and didn’t have time to comment earlier. I’ve been busy and caught up with “GDPing”.

    20% of Americans are on some form of mind altering drug. I’d assume that same number or very similar applies here too. There just aren’t that many people suffering depression and anxiety to such an extreme.
    Also, the “science” behind psychiatry is quackery.

    I really don’t have much sympathy for people that take their own lives because they’re down and therefore I don’t care. These days, it maybe considered a callous attitude, but again I just don’t give a shit. In fact those that snuff themselves are a nice example to others as I also believe in hard consequences.


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  13. Seems like the vaccines are doing a pretty good job of keeping older people out of hospital in the UK

    “This anti-bear spray is doing a good job.”
    “Yep. Haven’t seen one all day.”


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  14. I saw a electioneering poster for this “independent” in Tim Wilson’s seat today. I wondered if it was a person with the same name coming out of the same loon asylum. It wasn’t as it’s actually her.. the one and only Zoe Daniel.

    Former ABC journalist Zoe Daniel to run as an independent against Liberal MP Tim Wilson in Victoria

    Lord Almighty.


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  15. Seems as though Roger Cook has been moved out of Health to protect him. The OMG variant is coming to WA, and soon – don’t see how it can be kept out for long if it is as infectious as it currently seems. Guess who now isn’t going to cop the blame?


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  16. Well looky what we have here.

    The Commonwealth is paying “home care providers” to lean on their staff to get vaccinated and to dob on the ones who aren’t.

    The purpose of the Home Care Packages Program COVID-19 Vaccination Support Grant (Grant) is to provide additional support to Home Care Package (HCP) providers to increase COVID-19 vaccinations in the home care workforce and provide accurate reports on the vaccination status of the workforce to the Australian Government.

    To be eligible to apply you must:

    – be a corporation;

    – be an approved HCP provider under Part 7A Division 2 Aged Care Quality and Safety Commission Act 2018;

    – have at least one care recipient in your care as at 5 November 2021;

    – commit to reporting staff vaccination status weekly through the My Aged Care portal.

    If a provider is not already reporting weekly on the vaccination status of all staff at all outlets, providers will have one month from receiving the grant to start reporting weekly.

    commit to reporting staff vaccination status weekly through the My Aged Care portal.

    Estimated Grant Value (AUD):

    From $5,000.00 to $48,000.00



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  17. Too.
    Stupid.
    To
    Survive.

    Faulty Chinese aluminium adds to Navy boat delays, costing extra $44 million

    The Royal Australian Navy expects its new Evolved Cape Class patrol boats could now be delayed by up to nine months, while an extra $44 million will need to be spent keeping its old fleet in the water, after poor-quality aluminium was imported from China.

    Lets put that through the old-timeynator….

    The Royal Navy expects its new dreadnought Battleships could now be delayed by up to nine months, while an extra 4 million Pounds will need to be spent keeping its old fleet in the water, after poor-quality Steel was imported from Imperial Germany.


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  18. Wow, just wow.

    Yep; but it’s not the blacks who are doing this (although they rank with the orientals for the title as the worst racist group on this rock), it’s the white lefties.


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  19. Ruled by mongoloids.

    Indigenous leaders, conservationists* to repatriate Safety Beach whale shark carcass on country

    The decision was made to euthanise the animal yesterday morning on Safety Beach, north of Coffs Harbour, because of its ailing condition and after multiple, failed attempts to release it back into the ocean.

    Garby knowledge holder*, Tony Dootson, said he was disappointed to hear the initial plan had been to repatriate the animal’s heart on country** and then bury most of the carcass at the local rubbish tip.

    “Just to throw our animal, as beautiful it is, straight to the tip. That’s not an option,” he said.

    “We have other options, and that should have been looked at prior to thinking, even once about throwing it in the tip.”

    He said burying the carcass back on country is an important cultural practice.***

    “Garby Elders are the land of the sea people,” Mr Dooston said.

    * B- Ark residents
    ** I know how to scam some money out of these silly buggers…
    *** With chips and gravy?
    **** Leaving deposits “on country” after eating something is not “burying the carcass”


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  20. Wow, Dr Doofy is with anna pileofit’s kiss of death is lurching from one stuff up to the next. Mate in Cairns visiting has cut his stay short. Back down the coast tomorrow. Says he aint risking it. Accom apparently understanding as well as those he was seeing.

    Queensland beautiful one day, bankrupt the next…


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  21. LOl.

    Never again let it be said North Korea is a hermit state.

    WA closes last door to rest of the world

    As PM says there’s no going back to lockdowns, Western Australia closes its border to Tasmania, formally cutting the state off to quarantine-free travel from everywhere in the world.



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  22. Are these cartoons takes on old silent movies you are so fond of? If so, how do the silent characters communicate?

    its a little known fact that everyone was deaf in ye oldde days.
    So it mattered a lot less than you think.


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  23. Our saving grace with QLD’s generic evil doctor villian looking, second pick CHO, is that he isn’t a politician. And he’s a mouth, and he’s spent his whole life running his mouth to fawning Australian luvvie “interviewers” and “conferences” to wonderous applause no matter how dumb and contradictory he is.

    And it already shows.

    All the current CHO’s have years of being politicians. He’s spent his time “training” to be a super hero in his own mind. He’s got a lot going against him, not least of which he’s a man. And looks like a manlet.


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  24. Former ABC journalist Zoe Daniel to run as an independent against Liberal MP Tim Wilson in Victoria

    She’s out of the insane asylum? She came down with one of the worst cases of TDS I’ve ever seen while she was the DC correspondent. Trump broke her.


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  25. incoherent ramblersays:
    December 17, 2021 at 2:10 pm
    Because Science!(tm)

    The laws of Queensland override the laws of science stuff.

    Because Stuff. There fixed.


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  26. Before the March election, Ms Sanderson received praise from the Premier for her role in delivering Western Australia’s Voluntary Assisted Dying laws.

    followed closely by the mandatory assisted dying laws.


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  27. For instance, I was reading a reach-around level “interview” with CHO Lex Luther where he was saying how awesome he is for setting up a vast “infectious disease” unit at the gold coast hospital. About what a massive risk it was and, people were starting to give him shit for it, but then “Yes!” (fist pump) “Covid proved me right”.

    And what were his Big Brained ideas for it?

    From 2019:

    On a regular day at Gold Coast University Hospital, Dr Gerrard and his colleagues in infectious diseases respond to returned travellers from the tropics with unexplained fevers or other infections, and monitor the infection risk of patients post-surgery.

    He said Gold Coast University Hospital was among the first in Australia to be built using evidence-based design of predominantly single-bed rooms, which has shown to reduce infection rates and allow for a sophisticated response to infectious threats should they occur.

    “Infection control has become increasingly important in our modern hospitals. These days, we have a big focus on hand hygiene with alcohol-based rub and hand-washing basins readily accessible within a few metres of wherever you are in the hospital,” Dr Gerrard said.

    Big Brained CHO boasted that the Gold Coast Hospital puts infectious patients in single rooms, and encourages the washing of hands.

    No joke.


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  28. So a FULLY VAXXED ONLY music festival in Newcastle is closed down due to the risks from a virus that everyone is vaxxed against?!?!

    So the point of getting jabbed is …. ?!?

    Make it make sense please!!It’s all about da ”science”.


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  29. Big Brained CHO boasted that the Gold Coast Hospital puts infectious patients in single rooms, and encourages the washing of hands.

    No joke.

    One of the media’s go to epidemiologists – Professor Marie Louise McLaws- is an expert in hand washing too

    No joke there either.

    I don’t want to be unkind, but she presents herself as an expert on the virus when she’s basically a nurse educator who’s scored a big gig in the halls of academe. Note the tilty head & Erkos. I wonder what she’s contemplating?


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  30. Gabsays:
    December 17, 2021 at 5:29 pm
    So a FULLY VAXXED ONLY music festival in Newcastle is closed down due to the risks from a virus that everyone is vaxxed against?!?!

    Why aren’t the jabbers getting fired up?


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  31. Armadillo says:
    December 17, 2021 at 4:26 pm

    Thanks, Arma. That was well worth an hour.

    Perhaps Dover could put up Holbein’s “The Ambassadors” as a thread header – a comment of the transience of life.


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  32. A lot of interesting stuff comes up when you google ole Dr Gerrard Luther.

    For instance this was obviously now his job interview for position of understudy CHO in QLD.

    Just look at this little scumbag:

    A major Queensland hospital will barely cope with the influx of COVID-19 cases when the state reopens after administrators were left shocked by the community’s “reluctance to receive a vaccine”.

    John Gerrard, the Gold Coast University Hospital’s infectious diseases director, has sounded the alarm for his facility as the city sits at 54.7 per cent fully vaccinated (69.7 per cent first dose) on Tuesday.

    We now know the first wave of COVID infections will be coming to us sometime in the next few weeks or possibly next few months,” he said.

    Every area – from the emergency department to intensive care unit, obstetric units, operating theatres – is preparing for what is about to happen.

    That was back in October. December Fact Check: 100% WRONG.

    And here’s the money shot:

    “What we are talking about is a pandemic for the unvaccinated,” he said.

    Oh Gerrard. Oh you sycophantic bald little manlet, could you signal any harder they you’re Their Guy?

    And his pre-emptive answer to the ever-feared “what is your greatest weakness” question:

    “We’ve been planning for pandemics through my career, which spans 30 years,” he said.

    “And for years, we’ve talked about how we would minimise the impact on the hospitals as a vaccine was developed.

    “Perhaps we just didn’t think enough about reluctance to receive a vaccine.

    “We just assumed that in the event of a major deadly pandemic like the one we’re in, people would just get the vaccine.

    “Maybe in retrospect, that was a mistake in our planning.”

    “Me and my public health colleagues sat around for thirty years and fantasised about how in a pandemic the public would do exactly as we told them, how they would be so in awe of us they would prostrate themselves before us in the streets so as we may step on their bodies instead of the filthy infected ground, and how they would inject themselves and their children in the eyeballs with whatever random concoctions that we delivered to them without question. How did we get it so wrong? Well, it’s the public’s fault to start with…”


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  33. So the point of getting jabbed is …. ?!?

    Consume product?

    I made the observation a little while back that Pfizer was behaving like the British East India Company of old, but without the semblance of a sovereign government to reign its worse excesses in.

    I think Pfizer has gone beyond full East India Company now, dictating on a global basis to whom and how and when their products will be purchased, distributed and consumed.

    Much as I dislike the motivations and desires of the Western bugman class, setting them on an anti-trust pogrom against Pfizer does now seem attractive…


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  34. In an age of hyperbole this sadly isn’t. It’s fun but.

    And so, as 2021 goose-steps toward its fanatical finish, it is time for my traditional year-end wrap-up. It’s “The Year of the Ox” in the Chinese zodiac, but I’m christening it “The Year of the New Normal Fascist.”

    And what a phenomenally fascist year it has been!

    I’m not talking amateur fascism. I am talking professional Class-A fascism. Government and corporate sanctified fascism. Bug-eyed, spittle-flecked, hate-drunk fascism. I’m talking mobs of New Normal fascists shrieking hatred and threats at “the Unvaccinated” as they are dragged off “Vaccinated Only” trains, painting Nazi-era messages on their windows of their stores, leaders of government fomenting mass hatred, TV commentators literally quoting sadistic Nazi SS doctors, leftists going full-fascist on Facebook, concentration camps, Goebbelsian propaganda, censorship of dissent … the whole nine yards.

    Here in Europe, things are particularly fascist. One by one, New Normal countries are rolling out social-segregation systems, ordering “lockdowns” of “the Unvaccinated,” and otherwise persecuting those who refuse to conform to official New Normal ideology. Austria has made “vaccinations” mandatory. Germany is about to follow suit. “Covid passes” have been approved in the UK. Greece is fining “Unvaccinated” pensioners by reducing the amount of their state-pension payments. Swedes are “chipping” themselves. And so on.

    In New Normal Germany, “the Unvaccinated” are under de facto house arrest. We are banned from society. We are banned from traveling. We are banned from protesting. Our writings are censored. We’re demonized and dehumanized by the New Normal government, the state and corporate media, and the New Normal masses on a daily basis. New Normal goon squads roam the streets, brutalizing pensioners, raiding barber shops, checking “papers,” measuring social distances, literally, as in with measuring sticks. The Gestapo even arrested Santa Claus for not wearing a mask at a Christmas market. In the schools, fascist New Normal teachers ritually humiliate “Unvaccinated” children, forcing them to stand in front of the class and justify their “Unvaccinated” status, while the “Vaccinated” children and their parents are applauded, like some New Normal version of the Hitler Youth. When New Normal Germany’s new Chancellor, Olaf Scholz, announced that, “for my government there are no more red lines as far as doing what needs to be done,” apparently he wasn’t joking. It’s only a matter of time until he orders New Normal Propaganda Minister Karl Lauterbach to make his big Sportpalast speech, where he will ask the New Normals if they want “total war” … and I think you know the rest of this story.

    Jah, jah, we know the rest of the story. But since history in schools has been turned into wokeness I suspect most of the European population don’t. Certainly not Aussies younger than fifty.

    The Year Of The New Normal Fascist (16 Dec)

    He’s backed all his tangential language with a couple dozen links, so it ain’t just demagoguery. Mr Hopkins looks like an interesting guy, although I only know what he has on his about page.


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  35. So a FULLY VAXXED ONLY music festival in Newcastle is closed down due to the risks from a virus that everyone is vaxxed against?!?!

    So the point of getting jabbed is …. ?!?

    To keep pressure off the public hospital system.

    That’s the new narrative they’ve segued to since the true efficacy of the vaccines has been discovered and Delta came along.

    Oh…and you’re not allowed to ask what they’ve been doing about hospital and ICU capacity over the last 20 months of a “global pandemic” such that the hospitals need to be protected from sick people..


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  36. The UKHSA data actually makes a strong case for vaccination in the 60+ age group – and most certainly for the 70+ cohort.

    As Eugippius tells us, the apparent death rate for the 70+ unvaxxed is about 3x that of the vaxxed. For the 60+ unvaxxed it’s about 4x.

    Although Eugippius doesn’t appear to have done the calculation, the raw death numbers also reflect this benefit: the unvaxxed make up only ~5% of the 70+ cohort – yet make up 14% of total deaths in that group.

    I don’t think eugyppius has disagreed with that over his numerous posts for the elderly. Norman Fenton, though, has argued that the all-cause death rate don’t show much difference at all between vaxxed and unvaxxed. That would seem to indicate that the risk profile of the vaxx is more or less the same as that for contracting and dying of COVID.


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  37. You know, I have a feeling we’re getting played with the whole “WE’RE ALREADY OVERLOADED” state hospital thing. 1980’s Telecom two weeks and seven men to dig a trench and connect a phone line to a house style ‘overloaded’ maybe.


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  38. Rogersays:
    December 17, 2021 at 5:45 pm
    So a FULLY VAXXED ONLY music festival in Newcastle is closed down due to the risks from a virus that everyone is vaxxed against?!?!

    So the point of getting jabbed is …. ?!?

    To keep pressure off the public hospital system.

    It’s all just BS. It must be something nefarious going on.

    Surely in a smart society, once everyone’s had a chance to have a clot shot, it should just all be opened.

    My educated opinion is: This is fucked in the head.


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  39. My educated opinion is: This is fucked in the head.

    Hey, hey, settle down with the technical jibber-jabber egghead.
    Not all of us aced primary school on the first go you know…


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  40. Oh…and you’re not allowed to ask what they’ve been doing about hospital and ICU capacity over the last 20 months of a “global pandemic” such that the hospitals need to be protected from sick people..

    They could take all the unvaccinated nurses that they’ve run out of the system, set up a special hospital just for them to staff and send all of the covid patients there.

    I mean, with the complete embargo on any possible non-mRNA treatments, it’s not like there’s a vast and complex treatment regime.


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  41. You know, I have a feeling we’re getting played with the whole “WE’RE ALREADY OVERLOADED” state hospital thing.

    Oh no, ‘Stix.

    Rest assured that this is Ops Normal for the vast majority of the Public Health system.

    Take it from somebody who spent 9 years in it, between SA and WA Health- If you haven’t just lurched (Or witnessed the lurch- Hooray for Public Transparency and universal KPI emails! 😀 ) into yet another logistical or operational crisis today, chances are you’re one of the overpaid Executive-level bugman ‘Administrators’ responsible for the whole debacle…


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  42. Reminds me of that Yes Minister episode about the hospital with no patients in it.

    Yep. The opening year or so of Fiona Stanley Hospital was the best it has ever been. Even with the early-days staff haemorrhages…


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  43. Help! We’re overwhelmed by people with the sniffles!

    It may be that the Almighty is having the last laugh on these liars.

    The more the virus attenuates and does what it should, the more they run around with their hair on fire while trying to justify the unconscionable cruelty of the last two years – the more feeble and stupid and wicked they look.


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  44. Things that make you go….hmmmmmm:

    Dr Gerrard, who last year received a Humanitarian Overseas Service Medal for establishing Australia’s first treatment centre in an Ebola hot zone and in January went to Japan to help with the early Coronavirus outbreak onboard the Diamond Princess cruise ship, said they’ve learned a lot since.

    went to Japan to help with the early Coronavirus outbreak onboard the Diamond Princess cruise ship

    QLD’s new Lex Luther CHO was “helping” on our Diamond Princess when it was still in Asia?


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  45. To keep pressure off the public hospital system.

    Wowee!

    This is called a cover or a rerun.

    Lipstick on a pig.

    The band could be “cool” doctors, on Tik Tok, called “Johnny and the Injectors” or “The Readmissions”…


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  46. You know, I have a feeling we’re getting played with the whole “WE’RE ALREADY OVERLOADED” state hospital thing.

    Oh no, ‘Stix.

    Rest assured that this is Ops Normal for the vast majority of the Public Health system.

    I have it on excellent authority that nurses in a large regional teaching hospital are today being tested because one of them is a close contact of a positive case in Brisbane and – contrary to QLD Health regulations – they are being sent immediately back to the wards because there is nobody to replace them if they went home and isolated for 14 days as those regs presently require.


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  47. Reminds me of that Yes Minister episode about the hospital with no patients in it.

    Unfunnily enough, the big public hospital on the Sunny Coast spent so much money
    on the machines-that-go-bing for a cardiac surgery unit, there wasn’t enough left
    to actually staff the unit.


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  48. Muh.. I’ll leave it too , thanks.

    All north of the river, Cronker’s. You get a nose bleed that far up. Have you ever been to Melbourne. I ask because lots of northerners haven’t made the pilgrimage.


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  49. Have you ever been to Melbourne. I ask because lots of northerners haven’t made the pilgrimage.

    Once. I was judging at a female body-building contest. I only had time to eat a few pastries; it was all pecs, deltoids, quads and glutes.


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  50. Louisiana judge to take unpaid leave after being caught using N-word — but refuses calls to resign.

    My nanny used to go apeshit if I used the words ‘damn’ or ‘blast’. If I’d said ‘bugger’ she’d have gone into orbit. It’s strange how ppl change their linguistic taboos over time. It’s as if the outrage is pretty much constant, only the outraged and the words change


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  51. Musk is great . He’s such good value.

    He reckons we should be worried about population implosion rather than an explosion. He’s actually right. Developed and moderately developed countries are looking like they will be populated by old geezers.

    But a life of ease and bounty should not, in his mind, stop us having children. Because to worry about a crowded Earth is ultimately, he insists, to miss the point. Humankind must, for its own security if nothing else, settle and populate not just this planet, but many other planets too, starting with Mars.

    “Mars has a great need for people, seeing as population is currently zero,” he tweeted this summer. “Let us bring life to Mars!”

    And

    That’s not how Elon sees it. “There are not enough people,” he said last Monday. “I can’t emphasise this enough, there are not enough people.

    “So many people, including smart people, think that there are too many people in the world and think that the population is growing out of control. It’s completely the opposite,” he said. “Please look at the numbers – if people don’t have more children, civilisation is going to crumble, mark my words.”



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  52. Regarding deaths from/with COVID I can attest to the death hitherto of at least one 45-year friendship, a 25-year friendship as far as I know, more to be certified I am sure.


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  53. callisays:
    December 17, 2021 at 7:50 pm
    That’s tragic, Tinta. Those sorts of friendships are like a marriage. They just can’t be replaced.

    In this universe, everything must come to an end.


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  54. In this universe, everything must come to an end.

    God holds the key of all unknown,
    And I am glad;
    If other hands should hold the key,
    Or if He trusted it to me,
    I might be sad.



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  55. That’s tragic, Tinta. Those sorts of friendships are like a marriage. They just can’t be replaced.

    Indeed and speaking of marriage the 45-year friendship is that of my Madge, so that is very sad but there are reasons, seasons and lifetimes — so I guess I’ll have to go with seasons.


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  56. lotocotisays:
    December 17, 2021 at 6:02 pm
    Relax everyone.
    The cure for the ChiComPox has been staring us in the face, from day one.

    lol. World Socialist Website.


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  57. I think we should bear in mind the parable of the Prodigal Son here. I’ve had friendships scorched and associations forsaken… but if anyone would return to me, admit that they were less than 100% right, realize that the scales have fallen from their eyes, ask forgiveness, they will be welcomed back to the fold. Without hesitation, without condition.


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  58. I think we should bear in mind the parable of the Prodigal Son here.

    You mean that while your friend was pulling into the driveway you would drop everything and run out to them with a beer in one hand and extended, ready to shake with the other?


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  59. Anyone shunned from the Christmas table by kin gripped by fear of the unvaxxed?

    Ironic that at the heart of Christmas is the incarnation of Christ, in which he who is holy and clean came to dwell and sup with the unholy and unclean in order to redeem them.

    I’d aver that we are presently unworthy of his grace, but then God is much more merciful and patient than I am. Thankfully.


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  60. I think I’ve got that kind of cold temper that the vaxx fascists can’t tolerate- i stand my ground, i back up my info, i will not be distracted or misdirected, and I (actually I quite enjoy this, even tho wifey loses her marbles) love to return to tender topics with a irreverent gag that reminds the uptight opponent that i don’t hold grudges, and my silence is not contrition.
    The plus side of a good temper, i genuinely have never burned anyone off. My door is always open, particularly if it means someone might return to me with a stronger case once their own red rage subsides.


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  61. kids birthday party in the park last weekend

    one of the aunties unvaxed.
    got crook on monday and tests positive
    got better by wednesday

    everybody else
    a decent mix of vaxed and unvaxed
    negative

    media and govt say we’re all gonna die

    real life … not so much


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  62. Good to know, Wally. That first made you sound like the older brother (who was well within his rights).

    I hate losing friendships over rubbish…and it has happened to me many times.


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  63. I think we should bear in mind the parable of the Prodigal Son here. I’ve had friendships scorched and associations forsaken… but if anyone would return to me, admit that they were less than 100% right, realize that the scales have fallen from their eyes, ask forgiveness, they will be welcomed back to the fold. Without hesitation, without condition.

    I am a second class citizen to some people; they are dead to me.

    The chances of them ever admitting they are wrong are very slim. Even a calamity like reduced female fertility would have to be so tragically bad for mandated, experimental vaccines to get the blame. They would have to lose so much for any sense to be brutally pile driven into their thick skulls.

    I’d rather be mutually outcast to them than the worst fears of the “vaccine hesitant” coming true. It would be so brutal we would move from left wing medical fascism to a vindictive populist regime. The day of the rope if you will.

    Not that any of us have a choice on the matter, but I would rather be hated than for the to lose it all. I have let go of them so to speak and don’t need to punish them to conform to my ego.

    Too many people in Australia are dependent on government and government employment.

    This is exactly what Mitt Romney was talking about.

    This is precisely why everyone appears to be going along with this stumbling cluster fuck of moronic failure.


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  64. Areff
    Am sort of shunned in that have shunned myself – was told by brother about some outsiders (coming to the large family gathering at his place – he wanted the event at his place) who wanted to know if anyone was unvaxxed. I said not on. Not their business. But but … people were just being responsible and simply would not come if unvaxxed came. So – why tell me? So I asked if he and his wife were concerned about unvaxxed – ah, er, not particularly. So I though the correct answer would have been, not at all. Brother. Seems the non family persons are most worthwhile, though. So there it is. I said goodnight. An unvaxxed DiL will be going and has said she will test on the day to reassure persons, all to keep the peace. There’s more madness to the story, but it’s all too much. So it will be Christmas alone, and have also been cancelled by my choir (not my local church), no midnight Mass music; no Christmas morning sung Mass, nothing of the sort. Don’t know what they are doing. Could not earlier bring myself to sing in a grotesque masked choir; and I called the music director a busybody after there were moves afoot for the choir to work on parishioners to get jabbed, while we were zooming. I think it will be a splendid Christmas, though. I don’t know why, but it will be. Because Christmas is simply wonderful. The Incarnation revealed.


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  65. Anyone shunned from the Christmas table by kin gripped by fear of the unvaxxed?

    Hehe, just had a call from internet CEO brother who invited me to Christmas dinner. He is masking and decontaminating everything. I explained that I was a leper.

    Was fun conversation. He rode the idea of leperness and decided to invite me anyway (our elderly dad is coming). In his business he’d have no alternative to doing the rituals anyway, but was pretty open to the science. I’ll catch the train down and enjoy the day, if our Macquarie St masters allow it.


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  66. I think I’ve got that kind of cold temper that the vaxx fascists can’t tolerate- i stand my ground, i back up my info, i will not be distracted or misdirected,

    I am actually like that in real life.

    My sister told me Trump was a fascist for locking up BLM and other Soros backed terrorists. Her husband was very rude to me when I rather politely suggested that BLM and Antifa were actually violent terrorists who support totalitarianism.

    I should have cut them off there and then. They were incapable of adult discussion.


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  67. Aref:

    Extended family canvassing if the unvaxxed should be permitted at the gathering. That alone is enough to make me want to skip it.

    Couldn’t blame you for that.
    By the way, did you know the protagonist in Stephen Kings “The Stand” initials were RF? Randal Flagg?


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  68. Anyone know the quantity of “vaccines” purchased by the Australian people and their total cost?
    And the total cost of the PCR test kits purchased by us?

    This appears to be a process of looting Australia before rooting Australia.


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  69. Last machines moved into the new workshop!

    Cool! My brother renovated his house a few years ago, and they moved to a flat up the road during the carnage. The flat had a nice courtyard. So he rang his landlord and asked if he could install a mast and a dish in it. (He needs serious bandwidth for his business.) No, says landlord, nothing permanent.

    Okay. So brother puts up a 20 m tall pole, with dish, all temporarily attached to balconies and whatnot using cable ties. A bit of careful juggling and he’s in the zone and all his servers are happy.

    It was fun to turn up that Christmas Day to see a giant telecom mast in his courtyard held together by cable ties. But landlords are boss.


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  70. Anyone know the quantity of “vaccines” purchased by the Australian people and their total cost?
    And the total cost of the PCR test kits purchased by us?

    We’re not paying for it.

    Our grandkids are.


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  71. Much as I dislike the motivations and desires of the Western bugman class, setting them on an anti-trust pogrom against Pfizer does now seem attractive…

    Pfizer shouldn’t even exist after what it did in Nigeria, completely immoral and incompetent. The skulls of their executives should still be adorning Lagos International Airport.


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  72. Had a chat to crane truck driver to check he made it back ok.

    Asked how his son and DIL were going as they had been both crook from Pfizer last time he took up a load.

    DIL (28) has just had an MRI done on her heart as they try and work out what the hell Pfizer has done to her heart.

    FMD.


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  73. Randall Flagg, as mentioned above, aka the Walkin’ Dude, aka John the Conqueror was about the most menacing book villain ever.

    The Stand was about the end of King’s best work, which was completed with the aid of cocaine by the bucket.

    The stuff he wrote when sober was and is terrible.


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  74. Daniel was endorsed by Voices of Goldstein as an independent candidate to run in the 2022 federal election in the seat of Goldstein. Her candidacy was endorsed by former member for Indi, Cathy McGowan, former leader of the Liberal party, John Hewson and minister in the Fraser government, Ian Macphee.
    The old deadshit is still around.


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  75. Roger says:
    December 17, 2021 at 8:41 pm
    Anyone know the quantity of “vaccines” purchased by the Australian people and their total cost?
    And the total cost of the PCR test kits purchased by us?

    We’re not paying for it.
    Our grandkids are.

    I sincerely doubt that Pfizer would be waiting for our grandkids to pay.
    Our grandkids will definitely pay, but the billions would be handed over now.

    I’m curious as to actually how much of our tax dollars are being looted by the Australian CCP government.


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  76. Heir to the empire is in Mongyang.

    He’s slated to go to Brisvegas on 30 December to spend a week with the ex-Mrs KD, aka The Skank. So, PCR test 72 hours before and after arrival there.

    If he draws the short straw and has to isolate for that week in the same house as his mother, only one of them will walk out.


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  77. after poor-quality aluminium was imported from China.

    What the fuck is wrong with defence procurement?! Surprised at poor quality materials out of China AND caught out by it?! These people are either fucking retarded or traitors.


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  78. ‘slow cooker’

    Ahaha. Sweet.

    Dunno. Haven’t actually talked to the silly bitch in two years or more. I expect a detailed analysis from the heir on his return.

    Which I will of course share, because as far as I can gather he’s – get this – an out of work plumber.


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  79. 100 from a moon unit, and almost-tons from the uberbogan and the sooking cheat.

    Exactly! I love feral bogans.

    To win in desperate contests you need nutters who are very good at what you need them to do. Like Warner, Smith, Labuschagne, Sherman and Grant. Sherman would’ve loved sandpaper.


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  80. Young people drowning in debt are getting vaxxed to keep their jobs [and their houses and their toys].
    And their Missus.
    Think of it as Getting Vaxxed for The Bank.
    Which Bank?
    Any Bank, they’re all crooks.


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  81. rickwsays:
    December 17, 2021 at 9:00 pm
    after poor-quality aluminium was imported from China.

    What the fuck is wrong with defence procurement?! Surprised at poor quality materials out of China AND caught out by it?! These people are either fucking retarded or traitors.

    Bottom dollar 3rd world project engineers who don’t have a clue about materials & quality control. Just went for the cheapest shit they could get.


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  82. Rickw:

    DIL (28) has just had an MRI done on her heart as they try and work out what the hell Pfizer has done to her heart.

    Pericarditis and myocarditis at 62 was bad enough in terms of lifestyle/working, but 28?! That’s bloody rotten luck.
    Problem is that there’s going to be a massive shortage of transplantable hearts unless they change the criteria for donors.


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  83. Winston Smithsays:
    December 17, 2021 at 9:24 pm
    Rickw:

    DIL (28) has just had an MRI done on her heart as they try and work out what the hell Pfizer has done to her heart.

    Pericarditis and myocarditis at 62 was bad enough in terms of lifestyle/working, but 28?! That’s bloody rotten luck.

    Luck has nothing to do with it. This is a coordinated attack on our health and liberty, and the sheep just lap it up.

    Clown World.


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  84. Winston, you may not be anywhere near the minority some may have believed you to be.

    I reckon we’ve fewer than half the number of people we usually have for a Friday night.
    Turned away a helluva lot of people today and more so far this evening, coz not fully vaccinated.


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  85. Portland city officials have awarded a nearly $12 million clean energy contract to a nonprofit run by a woman convicted of defrauding energy companies.

    According to an investigation by the Oregonian, Linda Woodley, 71, has served time in prison over the past 25 years for defrauding energy companies, and racked up millions of dollars in liens for unpaid federal and state taxes – including a six-figure penalty filed just earlier this year.

    She has also faced accusations of failing to disclose financial records, and has been investigated by the IRS.

    But Portland city officials awarded her nonprofit organization, Diversifying Energy, a contract worth nearly $12 million earlier this month to purchase, deliver and install portable eat pumps and cooling units inside 15,000 homes and apartments of low-income individuals.


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  86. an out of work plumber.

    Can’t operate handsaw, pot of glue and a shovel?! Takes some doing!

    I thought The Heir’s Slow Cooker comment was bloody hilarious, stuck in my memory.


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  87. I’ll never forget seeing McPhee and Menadue ( a Whitlam pubic serpent) standing side by side. Proof that the uniparty existed as early as 1982.

    Just like Pelosi being against banning US Congress Critters from insider trading.

    It’s a big club and you’re not in it.


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  88. Winston Smithsays:
    December 17, 2021 at 9:43 pm
    Razey:

    Bottom dollar 3rd world project engineers who don’t have a clue about materials & quality control. Just went for the cheapest shit they could get.

    And not one will lose their job or pension over it.

    We live in a no blame culture.

    But what actually happens is that as soon as a project goes pair shaped people start quitting. The smart ones who can see what’s coming quit the earliest.

    By the time the project really starts bleeding lots of cash, pretty much everyone who worked in the project has been replaced. The lower level engineers who know they cant be blamed for any fuck ups will tend hang around. That way it’s not their responsibility the project has gone to shit. ‘It was the previous idiots Mr Manager Sir!’


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  89. From the “woeful” thread.

    https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1411/rr

    The “false positive paradox” and risks of testing asymptomatics

    Similarly, Baden et al., 2020, found a 0.6% background positive PCR test result in the 30,420 clinical trial participants for the Moderna vaccine, after initial testing. Study participants for this trial were selected based on being at higher risk for exposure to the virus and the testing was conducted from late July to late October 2020.

    Common sense would suggest that a test with 99% specificity would return only about 1 in a 100 false positive results. But this is not how it works. The false positive rate is far higher when disease prevalence is as low as the studies just cited have found. In other words: the Positive Predictive Value of screening testing is very low when background prevalence is low (Bokhorst et al. 2012; Skittrall et al. 2020; Dinnes et al. 2021).

    Here’s why: If we test 1,000 people randomly in a population where 1% have the illness at issue, and our test is 99% specific to that illness, we will have one true positive and one false positive for each 100 tests. So testing 1,000 people results in 10 true positives and 10 false positives.

    Using the BMJ test accuracy calculator (Watson 2020; see link for the calculator in the references; it’s educational to play with the calculator to see how different inputs affect false results)., we calculated various scenarios using real-world background prevalence data and test accuracy data.

    First, we conservatively assumed 1% pre-test probability of active infection, which is, based on the data reviewed above, which is a higher level of active infection than was found in the large vaccine clinical trials.
    We also assumed 58% sensitivity and 99% specificity, which are the findings of a recent Cochrane meta-analysis combining 64 published studies of antigen test accuracy, when used to test asymptomatics (Dinnes, J. et al. 2021).

    The result in this scenario is 50% false positives (1 true positive and 1 false positive)?—?even with a 99% specificity test. There would theoretically be zero false negatives, so the risk of missing actual infections is not at issue.

    50% is the same as random chance. In other words, this 99% specificity test can do no better than a coin flip when declaring a positive result. So screening in this scenario is not warranted because data that is no better than a coin flip is not data?—?it’s random chance.

    However, the situation is much worse than this because neither PCR nor antigen tests are close to a 99% specificity level in practice, for various reasons (Braunstein et al. 2021). Lee 2020 performed a lab analysis of the CDC PCR test accuracy, which was widely used in the first months of the pandemic, and found it had a 70% specificity (i.e. 30% false positives) and 80% sensitivity (20% false negatives). This is because of faulty designs built in to the test from the beginning, as various news accounts from the Washington Post, NPR and ProPublica have since revealed.

    This level of inaccuracy matches the CDC’s own internal report that found 33% false results when its PCR test was released in late February 2020, as reported on by National Public Radio (Temple-Raston 2020).
    Intuitively, and in an emergency situation, we may think that a 70-80% accuracy rate is far from perfect but may still be “good enough.” But this is where common sense and intuition gets us – and the public – into trouble. If we input these figures in the BMJ calculator, we obtain a catastrophic 30 out of 31 false positives.

    In other words, at a 1% pre-test probably (background prevalence), just one out of 31 positive test results is a true positive. And, again, we have zero false negatives, so the tests are not missing true positives in this scenario.

    This problem relates to more than just misidentifying positive COVID-19 cases; it also is relevant to data on hospitalizations and death rates. After testing became widely available, it became standard practice to test all patients admitted to hospitals in the U.S., regardless of symptoms. While this may have been a necessarily cautious step in order to minimize outbreaks in hospitals, it significantly inflated hospitalizations and deaths attributed to COVID-19. A positive test result was the primary basis for defining COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths since no symptoms were required to designate a COVID-19 hospitalization or death as such.

    In other words, since the CDC and WHO case definitions took the unprecedented step of defining a “confirmed case” as simply a positive lab test result, and then most jurisdictions also defined a COVID-19 hospitalization and a COVID-19 death in the same manner, if the large majority of positive test results are false positives, it is necessary to re-examine the pandemic surveillance data chain from the beginning.



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  90. Musk

    This dude has had a wild ride in life. He has six kids.

    The next five after losing one :

    Justine gives birth to twins AND then triplets

    “I buried my feelings, coping with Nevada’s death by making my first visit to an IVF clinic less than 2 months later. Elon and I planned to get pregnant again as swiftly as possible,” Justine wrote in her essay.

    “Within the next 5 years, I gave birth to twins, then triplets



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  91. Franxsays: December 17, 2021 at 10:11 pm

    Just think, Salvatore, they may have lied about not being vaxxed.
    Meaning that maybe your operations need reviewing.

    Huh? Please expand that a little?

    Who may have lied about their vaxx status?
    What operation of mine may require reviewing?


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  92. Salvatore:

    I reckon we’ve fewer than half the number of people we usually have for a Friday night.

    I didn’t want to force the issue because the old girl who runs the pub is a nice lady, but I had to do it because the stand – as small as it is – has to be made.
    I said to her that I’d be back when the lunacy is over and that there were no hard feelings.


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  93. Winston: You can’t force the issue. It is law.
    The direction is made under the Qld Health Act 2005, and thus is Qld law.

    Everyone we turn around, we’re telling to phone the ALP state or federal member nearest them & tell ’em next time you’re in a polling booth, Labor will not be getting your vote, & sound like you mean it.

    This seems to be being taken on board.
    It may have some impact.


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  94. Salvatore
    Q1.
    A 1.Some of those you turned away may in principle have been saying myob. Principles are what they are.
    Q2.
    A2. As my mother would say, biznest is biznest. So why turn away biznest. That too is a principle.


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  95. Europe Faces Dire Winter as Nuclear Outages Deepen Energy Crunch

    Bloomberg) — Europe could face a grim winter as nuclear outages in France put the continent’s energy market near a breaking point, raising the risk of rolling blackouts in the coldest months of the year.
    Electricite de France SA is halting reactors accounting for 10% of the nation’s nuclear capacity, worsening Europe’s energy shortages and leaving the continent at the mercy of the weather at the height of winter in January and February. Even before the outages, a shortage of natural gas had already forced Europe to rely on burning coal to keep the lights on.
    Supply concerns plaguing Europe have sent gas and electricity prices breaking fresh records several times this year, a headache for policy makers already contending with rising inflation. Geopolitical tensions between Russia and Ukraine could also further crimp supplies. Jeremy Weir, chief executive officer of commodities trader Trafigura Group, last month warned that Europe could experience rolling blackouts in case of a cold winter.
    “Europe will have a lot of problems if it gets cold,” said Emeric de Vigan, CEO of energy analysis firm COR-e. “Now it would only take 2-3 degrees Celsius below the seasonal normal to get into trouble.”
    The French nuclear fleet is a crucial round-the-clock source of power not just nationally but at peak times in markets such as Germany, Italy and Britain. Plant availability was already low as the pandemic delayed works on some reactors, and now EDF is halting two units and extending stoppages at two others after discovering a fault at a plant during regular maintenance.
    Without these units, about a third of France’s nuclear fleet will be halted at the start of January, forcing the nation — which typically exports electricity — to import more supplies at peak times from neighboring markets. The crunch will mean Europe — already faced with shortages of natural gas — has to burn more coal, and even oil in places like Germany and Sweden, another obstacle for policy makers trying to curb carbon emissions.
    Europe’s energy crunch could still get worse. An escalation of the tensions between Kyiv and Moscow could lead to further disruptions, with the potential for Russian gas shipments to be curbed or halted altogether in the case of an invasion. Conflict could also further delay the start of the controversial Nord Stream 2 pipeline linking Russia to Germany, which has already suffered repeated delays. Tom Marzec-Manser, an analyst for European gas and LNG at ICIS, said Europe faces tough choices ahead.
    The price of power for delivery in January in France soared 60% to a record 630 euros ($715) a megawatt-hour on the European Energy Exchange. In neighboring Germany, the equivalent contract surged 25% to an all-time high of 381 euros a megawatt-hour.
    France may need to stop exports to Britain and Italy, according to Jean-Paul Harreman, an analyst at energy consultant Enappsys Ltd. If that happens, it will push up prices in the core markets across the continent.
    The French grid operator had already said vigilance would be needed at the beginning of the year in the event of a cold snap. To cope with supply shortages, RTE increased contracts that allow it to briefly cut power of some large manufacturers. After that, it can reduce the voltage on the grid, and then utilize rotating regional power cuts of less than two hours as a last resort.
    “I can see grid managers paying industrial companies to not run if it gets really cold in a short period, they have done so in the past and they can do it again,” COR-e’s de Vigan said.
    Before this latest blow, markets were already under severe strain. Gas prices that are more than six times higher than usual have pushed up the cost of generating electricity, and Europe’s wide network of renewable energy sources hasn’t been able to fill the gap due to low wind speeds. High energy prices risk further industrial shutdowns, halts to cross-border power flows and even full on blackouts.


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  96. dover0beachsays:
    December 17, 2021 at 10:40 pm

    Robert W Malone, MD
    @RWMaloneMD
    ·
    Dec 16
    The PRINCIPLE trial led by the University of Oxford has put the ivermectin arm of the study is on “hold” due to “temporary supply issues.”
    Yeh, right…

    You can’t make this shit up.

    Rosie does, all the time …


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  97. Franxsays: December 17, 2021 at 10:44 pm

    Q1.
    A 1.Some of those you turned away may in principle have been saying myob. Principles are what they are.

    Except for the part where it actually is my business, you’re spot on.

    Q2.
    A2. As my mother would say, biznest is biznest. So why turn away biznest. That too is a principle.

    Because it is the law.
    You want that I should break the law? How do you think that will work out for me?


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  98. You want that I should break the law? How do you think that will work out for me?

    Yep.

    Loicensing sarjun’s can be real coves, the powers that Police Supernintendos have in QLD (and NSW) are bloody absurd.


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  99. Anthony Albanese’s climate policy stirs up Labor luminary Barry Jones
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    Geoff Chambers
    Chief Political Correspondent
    @Chambersgc
    An hour ago December 17, 2021
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    Labor luminary Barry Jones – a former ALP national president and Climate 200 patron – sent a scathing email to senior opposition figures including Chris Bowen, Richard Marles and Mark Butler slamming Anthony Albanese’s climate policy and accusing the party of being “politically dumb”.

    In the leaked email obtained by The Weekend Australian, the Hawke-era minister warned Labor frontbenchers and ALP veterans Gareth Evans, Ralph Willis, John Faulkner, Brian Howe and Bob Carr that “time is running out” to overhaul the Powering Australia plan.

    Dr Jones, architect of Kim Beazley’s Knowledge Nation agenda and a federal Lalor MP for more than two decades, said the policy “might help Labor hang on to the Hunter seat but there are 150 others in play”.

    “It is bizarre that federal Labor chooses to be less courageous on climate change than the NSW Coalition government. Of course we should reach out to the 37,000 coalminers in Australia, many of whom are unionised. But they have children and grandchildren whose lives will be badly affected (if) global warming becomes irreversible,” Dr Jones wrote.

    “Have we nothing to say to millions of young people, many of whom will vote for the first time in 2022, and who regard climate change as the central issue? The document can and must be improved, even though time is running out.”

    The former science minister and long-time ALP national president said Mr Albanese’s plan, which promises a 43 per cent emissions cut by 2030, had omitted references to the Great Barrier Reef, sea level rises, eroding glaciers and ice caps, acidification of oceans, catastrophic weather events and species extinction.

    Dr Jones on Friday told The Weekend Australian Labor’s plan was “not a climate change document” and confirmed he had joined former Liberal Party leader John Hewson as patrons of the Climate 200 group run by Simon Holmes a Court. Climate 200 is backing independent candidates running under the “voices of” banner targeting inner-city Liberal MPs across the country.

    “Our role is to act as old wise heads – John is wise and I am old. Simon and the board can throw ideas at us and ask, ‘does this make sense?’,” he said.

    Mr Bowen, the opposition climate change spokesman, said Dr Jones’ assertions about the Powering Australia plan were “wrong”.

    “Climate change and energy policy affects all Australians – it’s neither an inner-city wine bar hobby or regional burden issue as Morrison divisively claims. Every Australian can benefit from cheaper electricity and seizing the jobs opportunities of a changing global economy,” Mr Bowen told The Weekend Australian.

    “Every Australian feels the impact of a changing climate – from the western Sydney households with soaring electricity bills from increasing heatwaves, bushfire-ravaged communities, or agricultural families dealing with prolonged droughts and falling farm productivity.”

    In the email sent to Labor MPs last week, Dr Jones described the plan as an energy policy, which he had read with “increasing concern and dismay”.

    “Changes are proposed – but without an answer to the question, ‘What are we doing them for?’. Science provides a narrative which explains urgency, the nature of the threats and the rationale for action,” he wrote.

    “It is hard to imagine that if Labor was proposing action on Covid-19 it would fail to make any reference to medical science – references to “virus”, “infection”, “vaccine” and so on. But with climate change Labor is acting as if the problem is novel but needs no explanation.”

    “Voters are interested in the science. The ALP, it would appear, is not. Worst of all, and politically dumb, is the failure to appeal directly to, or connect with, Australians, millions of them, with direct observation and lived experience of climate change – farmers, gardeners, bushwalkers, anglers, bird watchers, fire fighters, aviators, bee keepers, vignerons.”

    Mr Bowen said while he respected Dr Jones’ “service to the Labor movement over many years”, the climate policy had a scientific basis. “The document itself also goes to the scientific imperatives of action on climate change including reference to the recent IPCC report, as well as the existing and accelerating impact of unchecked climate change on health through events like heatwaves, increasing bushfires and other extreme weather events.

    “Labor makes no apologies for developing a climate policy focused on not just the science but the economic imperatives of action for Australian families and industry. Barry is within his rights to argue for a different policy … but his characterisation of Powering Australia is factually incorrect – proven by the text of the document itself as well as the substance of the policy.”

    John Hewson? Lost the unloseable election to Paul Keating?


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  100. Remembering the great Gary Gilmour this Christmas.

    Which Gary Gilmour? The one executed by firing squad in Utah – the first capital punishment in the US for ten years? (Personally, I think shooting was too good for him)


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  101. In other words: the Positive Predictive Value of screening testing is very low when background prevalence is low (Bokhorst et al. 2012; Skittrall et al. 2020; Dinnes et al. 2021).

    I fucking love that.


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  102. Salvatore:

    Winston: You can’t force the issue. It is law.

    Correct.
    Except I forced the issue by turning up and ordering a beer.
    I could have walked past the pubs and not made an issue of it, but I chose not to.
    This is what I meant by making the stand.


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  103. Anthony Albansleazey’s climate policy stirs up Labore luminescense Barry “fat bearded socially inept weirdo” Jones …

    “Stop telling those dumb uncouth smelly tradesman and servants what you know is best for them”.

    “They’ll find out soon enough when the electorate is stupid enough to vote us into power (again) 🙂

    “Now fetch me my colostomee bag, Filipina!”


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  104. Which Gary Gilmour? The one executed by firing squad in Utah – the first capital punishment in the US for ten years?

    The authorities in Utah were copping it in the neck from the anti death penalty crowd. At the same time, they had to issue a statement, that no, they didn’t need any volunteers for the firing squad, and no, it didn’t matter if you offered to bring your own ammunition.


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  105. I took some friends and children to Tiamo restaurant in Hampden Rd for dinner. I stipulated, in writing, a roast turkey, carved at the table. With roast potatoes. What I got was pressed roll of turkey meat and fried potatoes. It was garbage food. I’m never going there again.

    Stay away from Tiamo. They cheat you.


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  106. These people are either fucking retarded or traitors.
    They’re public servants.

    Liberty quote from Kate Bingham, who mistressminded the vaccine roll-out in the UK, about Civil Servants:

    A devastating lack of skills and experience in science, industry and manufacturing… treats business with hostility and suspicion… paranoid about the media… a culture of groupthink and risk aversion that stifles initiative and encourages foot-dragging.



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  107. Salvatore, yes the law. So be a good person and adhere to the letter of that law. Because the letter of the law counts and one never ever goes against any aspect of the letter of the law, ever. Say it is so, say it is so with everything and in every detail of your operations.
    Alternatively, to answer your question, one may want that you should break the law. How might that work out for you? You never know.
    PS there is a foodie place in the Melbourne cbd smack dab in the middle of everything, hospitals, doctors places, tower residences, the lot, that took no notice of not allowing eating in the place, sitting, etc during the lockdown. The place was a joy and no one reported it. The doctors from the hospitals frequented it. The place simply existed then and now. Strange, yes. But there you go.


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  108. The ABC continues to cheerfully lie in its contradictory reporting regarding the OMG variant:

    What do we know about the severity of Omicron?

    Earlier this week, Professor Kelly said Omicron “still appears to be relatively mild in most circumstances, but we need to have further information on that over the coming week and we will share that when that comes.”

    We do know vaccine booster shots are key in protection against Omicron.

    “Unfortunately, with this new variant, Omicron, the two-dose vaccine schedule is not as effective as it was against previous strains of the virus, such as Delta,” Professor Kelly said.

    [bolded text as it appeared in original article]

    Oh, we do know that, do we? And how do we know that, given what we just said we don’t know? We really are a bunch of fuckwits, aren’t we?


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  109. Tch, stupid formatting. Bolded text ain’t bolded. So it appeared like this:

    Earlier this week, Professor Kelly said Omicron “still appears to be relatively mild in most circumstances, but we need to have further information on that over the coming week and we will share that when that comes.”

    We do know vaccine booster shots are key in protection against Omicron.

    “Unfortunately, with this new variant, Omicron, the two-dose vaccine schedule is not as effective as it was against previous strains of the virus, such as Delta,” Professor Kelly said.


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  110. Stay away from Tiamo. They cheat you.

    I don’t know if the Swan Valley is in your orbit, but the Memsahib and I had lunch at the Wild Swan, at Mandoon Estate, to celebrate her birthday the other day. Pretty damnfine.


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  111. My sources are spicy. Too spicy for republication.

    Pedophilia apologist and CIA shill Fat Ian “Vaush” Kochinski has now admitted to being an FBI informant:

    “I’m an informant, why do you think I did antifa work?… I was ratting out names.”



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  112. The authorities in Utah were copping it in the neck from the anti death penalty crowd. At the same time, they had to issue a statement, that no, they didn’t need any volunteers for the firing squad, and no, it didn’t matter if you offered to bring your own ammunition.

    Travelling in country Utah (where there were Bison in the fields) some years ago we checked into a restaurant with a sign on the door saying: many people in here carry handguns, take your chance.. This was not far away from a gorge where Butch Cassidey hang out, and the last chartered territories in the US – southern Utah, not the Mormon North.


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  113. I don’t know if the Swan Valley is in your orbit, but the Memsahib and I had lunch at the Wild Swan, at Mandoon Estate, to celebrate her birthday the other day. Pretty damnfine.

    I’ll bear it in mind, ZK2A, but it’s a long way from Crawley.


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  114. Stay away from Tiamo. They cheat you.

    I have to say that the children enjoyed it, mainly because of the chips and dips. I enjoyed the children enjoying it. They got lemon lime and bitters and enjoyed that too. The adults had bolly.


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  115. They are all lying about omicron OCO, including Sky News and The Australian.

    It’s the default to panic mode that grates. And the use of the first person plural voice. Don’t lump me in with your propagandising and fearmongering, pinhead journos. There is no ‘we’. You don’t speak for me.


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  116. Travelling in country Utah (where there were Bison in the fields) some years ago we checked into a restaurant with a sign on the door saying: many people in here carry handguns, take your chance

    I’m remembering a heated argument just after the Port Arthur massacre,that, if Australians had been allowed to carry handguns, Martin Bryant would have copped a couple in the back at close range..


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  117. Bison in the fields

    In the Badlands, late April ’93, about 100 of them. At dusk, blocking the road, the last two straggling bulls looking more than ready to charge the Fairmount.

    Bemused, we was. Photos were taken, to prove this event actually took place.


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  118. That would have been a heated argument ZK2A. But in those days, and these days, nobody here walks around with a gun in their pocket, so Port Arthur could not have been averted that way. It’s a cultural thing. We are not the US, which I say with great respect to the US.


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  119. What the fuck is wrong with defence procurement?! Surprised at poor quality materials out of China AND caught out by it?! These people are either fucking retarded or traitors.

    or balls deep in a honey pot


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  120. Martin Bryant would have copped a couple in the back at close range..

    The cops had him in their gun sights at the Fox and Hounds Inn just up from Port Arthur later that afternoon. They should have popped him right there. It would have relieved a lot of anguish, and saved us from having a movie made about him.


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  121. Winston Smithsays: December 17, 2021 at 11:17 pm

    Except I forced the issue by turning up and ordering a beer.
    I could have walked past the pubs and not made an issue of it, but I chose not to.
    This is what I meant by making the stand.

    Good job Winston.
    Keep it up. Every day.

    Be mindful of the penalties; $1,400 for you & $14,000 for the pub.
    One dickhead cop is all it will take, say the CQ entrapment officer … I mean, Highway Patrol in mufti & cleanskin car, popping in to see how many hick, yokel, one-horse pubs they can pinch on a quick tour.

    (Never forget the dog act they pulled last year on Yuleba, Mitchell, Injune, Roma et al.)


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  122. Franxsays: December 17, 2021 at 11:31 pm

    Salvatore, yes the law. … one never ever goes against any aspect of the letter of the law, ever. Say it is so, say it is so with everything and in every detail of your operations.

    It is so, in every detail of my operation.

    Alternatively, to answer your question, one may want that you should break the law. How might that work out for you? You never know.

    Actually I do know.
    I’ll be in the frame for a $14,000 fine.

    If you want me to break the law to make you feel good about your “sov cit” predilection, start the ball rolling by transferring $20,000 in cleared funds to my bank account (the extra to cover the incidentals)

    Easy for you when you’re demanding I put my balls under the guillotine.


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  123. Move to NSW: The Freedom State.

    Lol.
    Winter
    Sydney lockout
    Winter
    higher bank account fees
    Winter
    Daylight saving
    Winter
    Bed tax
    Winter
    Roadworthy required
    Winter
    Population density
    Winter


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  124. NSW Like Florida, Alberta and Wyoming – one of the last Free States on the planet.

    I’ll take Wyoming thanks.


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  125. Don’t get your point Salvatore. Yes, we have winter, and taxes..

    There’s no winter here Lazlo.
    I haven’t worn shoes & socks in years. I do not own a coat.
    The entire hotel does not have even one blanket (I know, coz a few years ago a guest asked for one)
    We run aircon every day, & every night, of the year.

    There’s no way I’m moving back to NSW, if I’m going somewhere cold, I’m going somewhere proper cold, with hibernation (eg, Wyoming, to a decent sized ranch – or Wyoming’s idea of a decent size)


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  126. True, there is no winter here. I am seriously starting to think about a very cold Xmas end 22. We have done Banff and the Rockies (minus 20c, good cold and luxury fun) but maybe Iceland, and the Aurora? Iceland is serious fun.


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  127. That’s the part I most disliked about being camped out in the open in the Northern Territory.
    So bluddee cold, and it only got worse once you were up on a horse (provided you stayed up there).

    Spent a year in Alberta, waaay north of Banff, other end of the province. It’s a different type of cold there.
    The maximum-minimum thermometer showed for the three months of “official” winter, a high of -25.
    I had a serious re-think about whether I really wanted to live there.


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  128. Turned away a lot of people today & tonight.
    A mixture of;
    People who had no idea there is a vaccine mandate.
    Those who confused one dose with being fully vaccinated & were totally unaware there is such a thing as a “second dose”.
    Fully vaccinated but had no proof, no idea how to prove it, & never imagined they’d need to prove it to go into the pub.
    Those trying it on – they were the easiest of all to turn around.

    And one TV/film star celebrity big shot high falutin’ important person, who it seems is not vaccinated, & was the only wheedler of the day, they culminated in “Do you realise who I am?”

    The police were very well behaved, which surprised me. They musta been told to not burr us up.


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  129. An old Swedish colleague of mine once said: there is no such thing as being cold, only not enough clothes.

    Clearly he didn’t have to live & work outdoors.


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  130. From Mark’s Cat.

    kaysee says:
    December 18, 2021 at 4:48 pm

    Mark Levin crushes cancel culture,

    American Marxism No. 1 of all books

    In an amazing victory over “cancel culture” and without a lick of advertising, big media reviews, or even a C-SPAN book chat, conservative talker Mark R. Levin’s American Marxism is heading to be the top-selling book for all of 2021.

    According to publishing industry sources, Levin’s call to action sold more than 1.2 million copies in several formats, including 1 million in hardback. Amazon is headlining it as the nation’s bestseller of all books this year.

    News we never hear about number eleventy zillion.


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