Open Thread – Mon 20 Dec 2021


The Annunciation, Henry Ossawa Tanner, 1898

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Arky
December 24, 2021 8:58 am

Anyone here ever read Waugh’s Sword Of Honour trilogy?

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Steve or Mark?

will
will
December 24, 2021 8:59 am

Knuckle Draggersays:
December 24, 2021 at 7:38 am
‘Kim Potter…. first degree manslaughter’

Good indeed.

totally disagree, this is an appalling travesty; she was dealing with a crim wanted for firearm offences, who was uncooperative, who dived back in his car where he may have a firearm handy. He was a clear threat to her life, and she took action. I don’t care what weapon she used, she did not have the strength to restrain the crim, and he was a mortal threat.

There are enough cases of traffic stops where the prep get back in the car only to produce a firearm and shoot the copper dead.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 24, 2021 9:00 am

Dirty Pierre throws WA into chaos.

calli
calli
December 24, 2021 9:01 am

Rather like Tolkien’s Ungoliant.

Yet some have said that she ended long ago, when in her uttermost famine she devoured herself at last.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 24, 2021 9:01 am

Read the summary on Wiki, he could have been writing about the COVID-19 War, both were/are farcical.

miltonf
miltonf
December 24, 2021 9:01 am

Putting 3AW on in the morning is a sure way to spoil your day. These people are stupid and nasty.

132andBush
132andBush
December 24, 2021 9:03 am

szczuk – last line of the eye chart

Modem password.

Arky
December 24, 2021 9:04 am

Trying to replace my .303 and Savage mag .22.
Prices are insane and there is bugger all stock.
Thinking a Howa .223 or 6.5
Anyone?

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 24, 2021 9:07 am

Jumping on the bandwagon to mindlessly troll my comments makes you look like a bit of a crawler.

Arky
December 24, 2021 9:07 am

The only SMLE I could find was listed at $1500.
Bloody.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 24, 2021 9:11 am

Coffee Club is the Boomer aged persons home when you just can’t face reality.

Arky
December 24, 2021 9:12 am

mindlessly troll my comments

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Yes, well the juries out whether your comments are genuine or a calibrated Schtick to derail threads.
I generally chose to pretend it’s the former, while most here come down on the latter.

Arky
December 24, 2021 9:12 am

Jury’s

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 24, 2021 9:13 am

Who else is serving mutton for Christmas?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 24, 2021 9:14 am

will,

If she’d shot the crook and meant to shoot the crook, then fair enough for the reasons you mentioned.

But she didn’t. She meant to Taser the crook, but actually shot him. Great result, sure, and a saving of someone else’s tax cash – but it was a training failure first and foremost, complicated by the person on the other end of the bangstick being clearly unsuited to working under pressure.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 24, 2021 9:15 am

Steven Crowder recommends Czech.
Another Cat here recommended CZ 455 for a .22 long.
My plans to buy me one for christmas have been scuttled, “landgate” – used to be office of land titles, but hey why not give our institutions .com made-up word titles, it’ll make the proles more forgiving when they don’t work- has been tardy updating transfers, plus the local copper is the bloke who served me prosecution notice for ticking off a fed, so I don’t think that that will proceed with any expedience.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 24, 2021 9:16 am

Yes, well the juries out whether your comments are genuine or a calibrated Schtick to derail threads.

Groogs is either a genius or an idiot.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 24, 2021 9:17 am

Dirty Pierre throws WA into chaos.
No no no, HBB.
Marx “Sneakers” McClown twirls two million people around his finger.

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 24, 2021 9:19 am

Old and busted: Natural immunity.
The new hotness: Proximity acquired immunity.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 24, 2021 9:19 am

But we hate the French.

Frank
Frank
December 24, 2021 9:20 am

Explain how the the hell “-szczuk” gets pronounced -“shay” then, Ed.

Same way the shop Target gets pronounced Tarshay. By the same sort of people too.

Arky
December 24, 2021 9:21 am

When I bought my SMLE there was a bin full of the things in the corner of the gun shop.
I just asked the bloke to pick me a good one, paid like $120 and that was that.
You can’t even find the things now.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 24, 2021 9:21 am

Also:

If there were multiple jacks in scene (which there were) then usually one will have a Taser out and the others will upholster the big dogs, so that there are options available and the cops are guided by the actions of the crook.

In this case, there were three cops within three metres of the crook, all with direct vision. If he’d even reached for something the cops couldn’t see they would have ventilated him, to the applause of all assembled.

But the crook was in the process of driving off when he was shot with both hands on the wheel. Tasering to prevent escape, sure. Killing him on video, probably not.

A training failure, and a further failure on the part of the cop who should have realised she was deficient in this area and put her hand up for additional training, or got out of that line of work.

She did neither, and consequently ran a Hail Mary every time she left the office. No sympathy. From me, anyway.

Arky
December 24, 2021 9:22 am

Wish I’d bought ten of them.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 24, 2021 9:25 am

Yes, well the juries out whether your comments are genuine or a calibrated Schtick to derail threads.

What Jury is that?

I generally chose to pretend it’s the former,

Why would you want to pretend that?

Arky
December 24, 2021 9:26 am

Why would you want to pretend that?

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Good manners.

Frank
Frank
December 24, 2021 9:27 am

Ed has another contact high from the formaldehyde again.

will
will
December 24, 2021 9:27 am

But she didn’t. She meant to Taser the crook, but actually shot him. Great result, sure, and a saving of someone else’s tax cash – but it was a training failure first and foremost, complicated by the person on the other end of the bangstick being clearly unsuited to working under pressure.

Not everyone holds up under pressure, you are being too demanding of someone who probably does a good job for 26 years.

areff
areff
December 24, 2021 9:31 am

Putting 3AW on in the morning is a sure way to spoil your day. These people are stupid and nasty.

Gawd, they’re keeping it up, indeed turning it up to eleven. Just now:

‘We have the COVID numbers to hand: Vic 2000 and NSW 5000 with one death

Nevertheless, today’s celebrity epidemiologist guest is now dictating how to enjoy Christmas with kin: Stay masked, keep your distance, don’t hug grandma.

We are so rooted.

mc
mc
December 24, 2021 9:31 am

The only SMLE I could find was listed at $1500.

Haven’t looked at prices in about 12 months. Just looked, and they are insane.

Cheapest 303 I could see is : https://usedguns.com.au/gun/394766/

If you were paying those prices you could get something interesting like : https://www.ozgunsales.com/listing/101917/matching_swiss_k11.html

or if you wanted cheap and cheerful, Carcanos seem to be still affordable : https://www.ozgunsales.com/listing/101714/carcano_6_5x52_model_38_carbine.html

Annoying thing is, an M1 will set you back about $800. Just can’t get a license for it.

Just been informed that my milling machine has turned up today so my Christmas is sorted

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 24, 2021 9:32 am

McGowan has commissioned a scheme to install minesite dongers into regional hospital carparks, to be used as separate batflu isolation units. Talking to a mate who does books for the electrical installation contract- and the whole scheme has gone tits up. Can’t get staff to inspect and repair units, can’t get steel or glass panel replacement, can’t re-gas or find seals to service the air cons, can’t get road pilots to transport, fuel cost has risen by 20% over thousands of kilometers, can’t even get gangs to re-paint lines on the bitumen where they’re meant to be landed.
She’s heard that serious numbers of small contactor workers have resigned, to go sweep floors on 1/4 the money for BHP, where they’ve got protection from jab mandates in an industry that might still exist in twelvw months time.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 24, 2021 9:34 am

Good manners.

I don’t recall you ever responding to a comment of mine before.
Anyway, you threw your good manners onto the dunghill about half an hour ago.
Any particular reason for that?

mc
mc
December 24, 2021 9:36 am

A CZ 527 carbine in 223 would be a fun. Even second hand they always won’t top dollar.

putting word out at a local gun club might get you a good deal.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 24, 2021 9:37 am

After seeing bicycle cops in Perth with sidearms, all cops carry too much Batman crap on their belts these days. No wonder Ms Officer ended up with a gun in hand- ask your average chick to hurry up find their favourite lipbalm in their favourite handbag, they’ll take two minutes and still only be able to hand you a Telstra bill from two years ago.

mc
mc
December 24, 2021 9:37 am

want

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 24, 2021 9:37 am

‘Not everyone holds up under pressure, you are being too demanding’

I don’t care how long she’s been in that job, but I will say that an experienced STREET cop of 26 years knows very well where her Taser and shooter are.

If she can’t hold up under that pressure, she shouldn’t be in that job. It’s not Milo cricket. Not everyone has to have a turn.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
December 24, 2021 9:40 am

Trying to replace my .303 and Savage mag .22.
Prices are insane and there is bugger all stock.
Thinking a Howa .223 or 6.5
Anyone?

For .22 or .22 mag i like the marlin (used to own a Marlin .22 mag) or Ruger in .22 has quite a nice range

For .223 the Tika T3 is brilliant (with a price tag to prove it) but if you are on a budget the Ruger American is a good choice.

For 6.5 i have the Ruger American Predator in 6.5 creedmore, absolutely awesome rifle, i can’t say enough good things about 6.5.

Rabz
December 24, 2021 9:40 am

The reimposing of the face nappies of scientism by Parrothead et al, would have to be the least surprising act of bloody minded idiocy witnessed in my life.

As predicted, the morons just can’t help themselves.

Electoral oblivion awaits, you lunatics.

Woolfe
Woolfe
December 24, 2021 9:42 am

We had some cops come onto our plan a couple of weeks ago to take off someone who may or may not have been drunk (one way to get of quickly).

They were so fat and had so much shit on their bodies they could barely get down the aisle.

Roger
Roger
December 24, 2021 9:46 am

Problem solved.

And Daniel Andrews clearly never attended Mannix College.

And Heinrich Palaszczuk was born in Germany, not Greece.

Merry Christmas, Ed.

rickw
rickw
December 24, 2021 9:47 am

They were so fat and had so much shit on their bodies they could barely get down the aisle.

The police support for harsh coronavirus measures is governed by their co-morbidities. A good 50% of the fat fucks would readily die from COVID-19.

Woolfe
Woolfe
December 24, 2021 9:47 am

Dont think so Rabz, in the the Hermit Kingdom aka chinese province formerly known as WA more then half the “people” in the shops had face nappies on well before 6pm deadline.

rickw
rickw
December 24, 2021 9:51 am

Thinking a Howa .223 or 6.5
Anyone?

My Dad brought a Howa .223 as a truck gun to replace a Remington 788 in .222 that he had completely worn out.

The 788 was deadly accurate in its day as they were known to be (high receiver rigidity due to rear locking design). He reckons the Howa is on par, absolutely no complaints about it.

Mater
December 24, 2021 9:51 am

Arky,
If you were a lefty (left handed, as opposed to a fucking retard), I could get you a great deal on a Tikka T3 .223 in Stainless Steel, which has had hardly any use, and comes complete with a 3-12 illuminated scope.

Given that you don’t use that side of your brain, you’re shit out of luck.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 24, 2021 9:53 am

And Daniel Andrews clearly never attended Mannix College.

No one who was there during the years Andrews supposedly was could remember him.

And Heinrich Palaszczuk was born in Germany, not Greece.

Parliamentary Register.
According to Henry, he was born in 1945 in Greece of Polish parents.
Take it up with Henry, Roger.
By the way, you were casting doubt on Annastacia’s claimed Ukrainian heritage.
Care to explain what that was all.about?

calli
calli
December 24, 2021 9:54 am

That distant sound you all hear in the background…as if it has travelled many, many miles from the top of the Range….

GuuuuuunWaaaaaaaaankers!

rickw
rickw
December 24, 2021 9:54 am

Just been informed that my milling machine has turned up today so my Christmas is sorted

No snow for Christmas, just swarf! 🙂

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
December 24, 2021 9:57 am

I’m surprised this wasn’t the headline in this morning’s paper, considering the return to mask mandates.

DEL TA VU

Rabz
December 24, 2021 9:58 am

Indeed woolfe, when I went to the supermarket yesterday morning pretty much everyone there was clad in a FNOS. Not to mention all the imbeciles wearing them while walking around outside.

At the risk of winding up Arks, my faith in humanity is almost completely destroyed. Of all the idiotic times we could have existed in human history, we get lumbered with this one. The truly bizarre thing is I never saw it coming. OK – all the incessant hysteria about gerbil worming was infuriating enough, but this current situation really is a confluence of multiple irredeemable idiocies that will render our previous relatively free and peaceful lives a distant fading memory.

And no, Morristeen, I don’t want a digital passport with my bat soup, thanks very much.

miltonf
miltonf
December 24, 2021 10:00 am

Just hearing Mitchell in the morning briefly was like being grabbed by a clammy hand- would make life seem very small and mean.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
December 24, 2021 10:00 am

GuuuuuunWaaaaaaaaankers!

Yes, but somehow people are strangely drawn to it.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
December 24, 2021 10:00 am

Every 3 months for boosters from Jan 31 is going to be a seriously hard sell.

Arky
December 24, 2021 10:00 am

GuuuuuunWaaaaaaaaankers

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I find that highly offensive as both a gun owner and a wanker.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 24, 2021 10:01 am

Parliamentary Register.
According to Henry, he was born in 1945 in Greece of Polish parents.

According to the Parliamentary Register, Henry was born 12 January 1947.

A Man of Mystery.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 24, 2021 10:01 am

willsays:
December 24, 2021 at 9:27 am
But she didn’t. She meant to Taser the crook, but actually shot him. Great result, sure, and a saving of someone else’s tax cash – but it was a training failure first and foremost, complicated by the person on the other end of the bangstick being clearly unsuited to working under pressure.

Not everyone holds up under pressure, you are being too demanding of someone who probably does a good job for 26 year

Doing the job for 26 years and still gets it wrong.

mc
mc
December 24, 2021 10:03 am

No snow for Christmas, just swarf!

It will have to be plastic swarf. Waiting now on collets and cutters now. I still have some end mills left over from my final year paper at uni 100 years ago, but only a drill chuck to put them in!

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 24, 2021 10:03 am

Take 2 in correct thread.

Ta Rugbyskier. From a little more research am certain now it is an Australian & US regulatory thing. I have travelled to internal Asian destinations through Changi and on at least 1 occasion had more than 100mL of liquids in my backpack as late as 2011 that didn’t raise an eyebrow.

The staff at Changi apparently gave no reason. A lot of European grog that would have cost a fortune in Oz apparently went down the sink. 🙁

Rabz
December 24, 2021 10:03 am

McClown: “The frenchman has been to many venues were there was a lot of dancing and a lot of fun”*.

These are the idiots lording it over us right now.

*Yes, he really did say that.

Frank
Frank
December 24, 2021 10:04 am

Because why not, tooled up Turkish battle donkey.

Roger
Roger
December 24, 2021 10:04 am

Ed, re Andrews, I provided a picture of him at Mannix.

I’d suggest that’s stronger evidence than people’s memories.

As to Palaszczuk, the register details I have access to mention date of birth but not place of birth.

Interesting. What evidence do you have that it was Greece? Funny place for an eastern European DP family to end up; most ended up in Germany.

miltonf
miltonf
December 24, 2021 10:05 am

Military lawyers really are the worst. It’s easy to forget that the military is just another part of the pubic ‘service’.

rosie
rosie
December 24, 2021 10:10 am

I thought nannanna claimed Polish heritage not Ukrainian.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 24, 2021 10:11 am

Rabz – so right

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 24, 2021 10:12 am

Rabz – I wouldn’t mind if we weren’t all going to get it eventually. It’s real finger in the dyke stuff combined with some media spin in the hope of electoral advantage.

rosie
rosie
December 24, 2021 10:13 am

Didn’t Andrews meet his wife at Mannix?
And why is him living there controversial?
It’s a boarding facility for, mostly, rural Catholic university students attending Monash.

If he didn’t live there where was he, commuting from Wang?

Roger
Roger
December 24, 2021 10:14 am

Didn’t Andrews meet his wife at Mannix?
And why is him living there controversial?

It’s only controversial here, rosie, because Ed maintains he “clearly” was never there because, apparently, nobody remember him.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 24, 2021 10:15 am

Every 3 months for boosters from Jan 31 is going to be a seriously hard sell.

Very seriously.
The politics of keeping 80% of the population up to date with a vaccine against a disease that’s relevant to a minority of the oldest 20% is never going to be possible.

The lived experience of trying to perpetuate mandates and passports will become toxic to the political class. They know this.

caveman
caveman
December 24, 2021 10:16 am

I would be firstly getting the presents from family and friends, before telling them to fuk off if they aren’t covid compliant.
That’s the correct way.

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 24, 2021 10:17 am

my faith in humanity is almost completely destroyed.

Went to the purveyor of small cigars, bright and early.
Me: Do I need this bit of Kabuki theatre?
Regular chick: Nah. I’m over this shit.

Roger
Roger
December 24, 2021 10:21 am

Every 3 months for boosters from Jan 31 is going to be a seriously hard sell.

The WHO’s Dr. Ted Ross is saying the West’s booster programs will only prolong the virus as new variants will continue to emerge from the largely unvaccinated 3rd world.

rosie
rosie
December 24, 2021 10:23 am

How would Mr Queensland Ed know who remembered seeing Andrews at Mannix during his five years long attempt to get a degree at Monash?
2014 potted Andrews biography

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 24, 2021 10:27 am

While on the subject of Mannix, how’s Sam Newman’s Christmas cruise? It was like a scene from I’m a Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here. The only one that emerged with any dignity was his wife.

Roger
Roger
December 24, 2021 10:28 am

How would Mr Queensland Ed know who remembered seeing Andrews at Mannix during his five years long attempt to get a degree at Monash?

It was an assertion based on hearsay someone presented here.

I provided a group photo from Mannix to prove otherwise.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 24, 2021 10:29 am

According to the Parliamentary Register, Henry was born 12 January 1947.

Unlikely.
Annastacia is born 1966, where did Heinrich find the time and resources as an 18 year old to get married, father a daughter and study to become a Schoolteacher?

miltonf
miltonf
December 24, 2021 10:29 am

Nixon said if Clinton became president this country will have truly gone to hell. Look at the thieving old incontinent grifter there now- the hack who lied about graduating in the top half of his class in law school, who lied that his house burned down with his wife in it, and lied that he had served as an envoy to Israel during the Six Day War when he was still a law school student plagiarizing papers.link

miltonf
miltonf
December 24, 2021 10:30 am

You would expect Mannix College to be full of DLP types. No so.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 24, 2021 10:33 am
MatrixTransform
December 24, 2021 10:33 am

But it isn’t to their health. It’s a threat to their world view.

they’re more scared of the idea of dying.
which still makes it existential

can’t be having any of the existential angst now can we?
what to do, what to do?

Oh I know … it’s you. You made me angsty when you didnt put the Farce Covering on

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 24, 2021 10:35 am

I provided a group photo from Mannix to prove otherwise.

The graduation photo.
Sure, Andrews graduated from Monash, the photos prove that, but.
No one who was there residing at Mannix could recall him
Yet people who knew Stairman at High School recall an overbearing Sociopath.
Let’s just say it’s passing strange, though my bringing it up has Rosie in a lather of obfuscation and misdirection.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 24, 2021 10:36 am

GuuuuuunWaaaaaaaaankers!

Anyone here shot a hole in someone else’s tent?

No?

Carry on.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 24, 2021 10:38 am

Ed is going to die on another hill of mutton. Have you finished the Brittany tapes Groogs? Coming up to trial. Chop chop.

Pogria
Pogria
December 24, 2021 10:38 am

Because why not, tooled up Turkish battle donkey.

Hi Frank, I know I am being pedantic, it is a Mule. So you are half right. 😉

Rabz
December 24, 2021 10:41 am

Anyone here been kept awake at night by the sound of B52s bombing Kampuchea?

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 24, 2021 10:45 am

Anyone here shot a hole in someone else’s tent?

Neither literally nor euphemism-wise.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Probably.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 24, 2021 10:46 am

At least NamBob had the decency to stay departed. I’m having trouble staying up to date with Miata developments without a daily reminder.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 24, 2021 10:46 am

Ed Casesays:
December 24, 2021 at 7:35 am
The Silent Generation was born between 1911 and 1940.
They’re responsible for the problems today because they put their own security above everything else.

By enlisting to fight various forms of fascism?

Fvck off fvckwit.

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 24, 2021 10:53 am

I’m having trouble staying up to date with Miata developments without a daily reminder.

Something to soothe a seething brow.

will
will
December 24, 2021 10:53 am

Doing the job for 26 years and still gets it wrong.

you are being totally unrealistic; most cops would never have cause to even draw their gun in their career. it was a situation rarely encountered for most cops, and difficult to anticipate and train for

Tom
Tom
December 24, 2021 10:55 am

Parrothead.

So right on so many levels.

Thanks, Rabz.

Dot
Dot
December 24, 2021 11:01 am

Anyone here been kept awake at night by the sound of B52s bombing Kampuchea?

I fear the North Vietnamese T-72s more in my corner of the Kampuchean jungles. I’m just trying to languish out here in peace.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 24, 2021 11:01 am

Roger

Merry Christmas, Ed.

Be polite. That’s “Merry Christmas, Mr Ed.”

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 24, 2021 11:03 am

it was a situation rarely encountered for most cops, and difficult to anticipate and train for

But they do anticipate for it and they do train for it. Not daily, but all the time. For the reasons that occurred in this incident, and so that what happened does not happen.

Sure. Most cops do not plug someone at all in their careers, and those who do almost never do it more than once. But you do not hand out free passes for what is without any doubt a basic training failure compounded by certain unsuitability for working under pressure.

They are paid to not do what Potter did. She does not get a pat on the head and a walk away from me for being flustered, or that it was a comparatively rare occurrence.

It can seem like a high bar. It is not a high bar if you’ve been in that line of work for over a quarter century. You either meet that bar or you don’t.

caveman
caveman
December 24, 2021 11:03 am

Australia goes one better than the Chinese on anal swabs.

Dates slashed on wait times for booster shots.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 24, 2021 11:11 am

In Bit Cruel to Quote Him Verbatim news:

Chief Health Officer Professor Paul Kelly explains Boosters:

“…boosters at this stage can help about the transmission of the virus so the infection of people and with mostly mild or asymptomatic disease, but they can then transmit it to other people.

“We know that unfortunately, two doses does not change that ability to become infected a great deal.

“That again wanes over time and there is a time-based process to that.

“But that protection against infection is diminished again in Omicron.

“Again, with the booster, it goes back towards the same levels as Delta.

There’s a message in there for all of us (who gibberish speak).

In safe hands.

Vicki
Vicki
December 24, 2021 11:11 am

OK, like Rabz, I need to vent my spleen.

Came back to Sydney yesterday for Xmas with the family. This morning went to coffee spot on the beach where we always meet friends in the morning. Everyone (at first) pleased to see us. We were careful to get takeaways & join those on the beach walkway. Lovely. Lots of catch-up chats.

I made the mistake of walking over to the cafe’s OUTDOOR tables to greet some lady friends. Almost immediately the “queen” of the pack brought up vaccinations. “You’re vaccinated aren’t you Vicki?” She knew full well I wouldn’t be.

“Oh,” she responded, “ you’re one of the superspreaders, then, who are spreading this Omicron”.

This was my moment….& I let her have it …..but with a smile of contempt on my mush! Do you ever read ANYTHING? …..even the government medical officers are telling all the vaccinated they can be infected & transmit…..there are less than 3% of us left unvvaccinated……do you really think that we are responsible for the 5,000 cases yesterday……& it was the vaccinated who flew the damn thing into the country try in the first place!…….

But in the midst of all this, the poor bloke having a quiet coffee next to us jumped to his feet & fled. That is the moment when you do, despite it all, feel like a leper.

Laugh could ultimately be on this idiot of a woman. My husband helped her husband restore a magnificent old Bentley, but her husband can’t manage the old gears & my fella is relied upon to drive him when he wants to go for a run in it…….ha!

BTW walked away from the “queen” laughing……

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 24, 2021 11:16 am
Roger
Roger
December 24, 2021 11:18 am

The graduation photo.
Sure, Andrews graduated from Monash, the photos prove that, but.
No one who was there residing at Mannix could recall him

It wasn’t a garduation photo it was a photo of Mannix residents for that particular year.

Not only is Andrews “clearly” present but he is listed as an officeholder of some sort, probably student elected.

Anyway, have you found any evidence of Henry Palaszczuk’s Greek borth yet?

And what were the family doing in Greece, anyway, embarking on a post-war Grand Tour?

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 24, 2021 11:19 am

Ed Casesays:
December 24, 2021 at 10:29 am
According to the Parliamentary Register, Henry was born 12 January 1947.

Unlikely.
Annastacia is born 1966, where did Heinrich find the time and resources as an 18 year old to get married, father a daughter and study to become a Schoolteacher?

So, are you saying that Heinrich lied on the Parliamentary Register?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 24, 2021 11:21 am

Anyone here been kept awake at night by the sound of B52s bombing Kampuchea?

I was bombed by a currawong a moment ago, if that helps. Fortunately only bits of mincemeat in my hair, not a bioweapon.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 24, 2021 11:25 am

“the wait times between jabs to be slashed”
AAAAAAAAAAAHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahajajajaja!

Frank
Frank
December 24, 2021 11:26 am

You’re vaccinated aren’t you Vicki?

The best response I came up with is “all that stuff is good”. If they press you on the non committal nature of the response then move onto preferring to keep you medical status between you and your doctor. That way you get to politely decline to engage and make them look like a prying bastard if the need to press the issue.

/dear Frank column

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 24, 2021 11:28 am

where did Heinrich find the time and resources as an 18 year old to get married, father a daughter and study to become a Schoolteacher?

Time to get married – 45 minutes.
Time to father a daughter – if you’re Lord Flashheart, 20 seconds.
Time to study to be a schoolteacher – if he’s super keen, eight hours a day on weekdays for three years with four weeks’ holidays – 1920 hours.

Remaining time in three years – 20,447 hours, 14 minutes and fifteen seconds.

Plenty of time.

Frank
Frank
December 24, 2021 11:29 am

And what were the family doing in Greece, anyway, embarking on a post-war Grand Tour?

There was a time when people emigrating from Europe post war with fishy backstories were considered likely to be Nazis.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 24, 2021 11:29 am

Not sure if it’s been mentioned, but …
GET FUCKED BARNABY.

calli
calli
December 24, 2021 11:33 am

Almost immediately the “queen” of the pack brought up vaccinations.

*shudder*

No wonder her husband wants to get away. In a Bentley is a little extreme, but needs must.

Aaron
Aaron
December 24, 2021 11:34 am

This is now becoming embarrassing.
Three months between shots next year.

I wonder why Hunt just happened to have another 100 million shots for a 90 percent vaxxed population?
Hunt goes full Israel.

pete of perth
pete of perth
December 24, 2021 11:34 am

After months of telling the missus that boosters will be down to quartely which usually got me in the naughty corner… perhaps a “I told you”…would see me in the dog house

calli
calli
December 24, 2021 11:36 am

Pete, say nothing. Stay alive.

She knows.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 24, 2021 11:37 am

Vicki, sounds liberating. I’ve got a good Socratic reasoning tree to torture vaxxers on, it makes them do all the hard work.
1. “But you can’t catch it, can you?”
2.”But it’s a immunizing vaccine, isn’t it?”
3. “But a vaccinated prole can’t pass it on, can they?”
If forced onto the back foot:
1. “Oh, so it just reduces severity. So would the jab give me even less chance of realizing I’ve even got the batflu?”
2. “Oh, so it’s just a preventative. So can I instead use sunshine, fitness or ivermectin?”
3. “Oh, so you’re not protected from whatever even more deadly variant which will inevitably come next. Why are you out and about then, shouldn’t you voluntarily be in Howard Hughes lockdown like all the other really smart people?”

local oaf
December 24, 2021 11:38 am

December 24, 2021 at 7:35 am

The Silent Generation was born between 1911 and 1940.
They’re responsible for the problems today because they put their own security above everything else.

Sure.

My old man, both his adult brothers and Mum’s brother all volunteered in WW2. Half of them lived, half died.

Within 3 months of dad’s joining up, both of his brothers were already dead in other theatres of the war.
By the time he and his mates had finished their training (aircrew) 30% of them were already dead. That was before they even arrived at the fighting!
Mum and aunties were working in munitions factories.

I wouldn’t trade my generation’s security for theirs.

Roger
Roger
December 24, 2021 11:38 am

There was a time when people emigrating from Europe post war with fishy backstories were considered likely to be Nazis.

A lot of otherwise ordinary folk caught up in stuff, it’s true, and they were quite adept at using misdirection when presenting to migration authorities who didn’t have the resources to check their stories anyway and were only looking for the “big fish”.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 24, 2021 11:39 am

You’re vaccinated aren’t you Vicki?

Howzabout :”Mind your own business you nosy bitch.”

Frank
Frank
December 24, 2021 11:40 am

From the local Hobart fish wrap today.

For those feeling anxious about the increasing cases, the Premier offered a different perspective.

The key metric to consider is how ill is this making people. At the moment what we’re seeing is the cases are mild,” Mr Gutwein said.

“We have people who aren’t even utilising the Covid at home service because their symptoms are that mild.”

Seems like a walk back from the usual hair on fire hysterics.

calli
calli
December 24, 2021 11:42 am

A couple of hours ago had a panic phone call from youngest. Positive case in the office, just phoned through. All other contacts -ve.

So, car packed and in the driveway, they do a rapid test. All back -ve. Should we still come up? A plaintive little voice from the back seat – but we’re not sick! Can we still go, pleeeeeeease?

Out of the mouths of babes….

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 24, 2021 11:43 am

If you really need to shut someone up, put $50 on the table and say, “What is the name of W.A.’s Chief Health Officer?”

Aaron
Aaron
December 24, 2021 11:43 am

Hmm. About that fourth shot.

Still not cleared in Israel. Oh dear.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 24, 2021 11:44 am

Howzabout :”Mind your own business you nosy bitch.”

I too was brought up to be polite and respectful, but after I realised my conditioning was being used against me, I gave it up.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 24, 2021 11:44 am

where did Heinrich find the time and resources as an 18 year old to get married, father a daughter and study to become a Schoolteacher?

Layer upon layer of mystery.
Like an onion.

Frank
Frank
December 24, 2021 11:45 am

If you really need to shut someone up, put $50 on the table and say, “What is the name of W.A.’s Chief Health Officer?”

Check out our local health officer. Fucking hamster.

calli
calli
December 24, 2021 11:48 am

On the vaxx asking question, I would just ignore it as you would an unattractive, pestering child and chat to the others assembled.

Before anyone jumps to conclusions about the youngest…she, along with the rest of the family, is worried about her very elderly grandparents here. She doesn’t want to be the one to give them a possible (however unlikely) death sentence.

What they don’t seem to register is that it’s up here too. We are not some sort of cocooned weirdos. Mum and Dad are up at the shops galavanting most days.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 24, 2021 11:48 am

No wonder her husband wants to get away. In a Bentley is a little extreme, but needs must.

Hopefully not while on fire.

Franx
Franx
December 24, 2021 11:51 am

I know it’s Christmas but the state premiers and the pm are despicable beyond being gossip fodder. Unless it’s wounding, all discussion about the insanely evil persons is to their ears a form of adulation.

vr
vr
December 24, 2021 11:54 am

Booster wait times cut from 6 to 5 to 4 months. Is there scientific evidence that backs the last two changes? Or are the the vaccines less efficacious than what has been claimed? Or is the change in times done to calm nerves of the frazzled populace?

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 24, 2021 11:55 am

Hard to think of a situation where the Bentley isn’t the right car for the job.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 24, 2021 11:57 am

This is now becoming embarrassing.
Three months between shots next year.

Funny how what gets said on the Cat keeps coming true.
Conspiracy theories are rapidly becoming government policies.
Maybe we should all shut up and stop giving their lurking staffers ideas.

Roger
Roger
December 24, 2021 11:58 am

Apoligies for the length, but the following is what first piqueed my interest in Palaszczuk’s backstory. It was originally published in the Toowoomba Chronicle. The author is George Helon:

‘As a genealogist, etymologist and nomenclaturist (retired) I am occasionally asked by persons of Polish and eastern European descent to assist them with their family history research when the going gets tough.

When locating ancestors overseas appears an impossible task, and access to vital records seems an elusive dream, researchers often forget to utilise the simplest facts right in front them to elicit new avenues of enquiry – names!

It is interesting just how much information you can glean from an individual’s Christian name, surname, and the names of the places they originate from.

In the case of our esteemed Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk, it is written in her Wikipedia biography that she is “the daughter of veteran state Labor MP Henry Palaszczuk, who was born in Germany to Polish parents.”

According to the Palaszczuk family immigration records publicly available at the National Archives of Australia, Annastacia’s grandfather Hipolit was born in Wolka/Wulce and her grandmother Ludviga/Ludwiga born in Racje/Rajca/Rajzca, Poland.

Now the surname PALASZCZUK is a blended patronymic derived from the word PALASZ (say, pow-w-ash), which in the Polish language means ‘broadsword’ – basically a nickname for a combative or fierce individual, a soldier – and the suffix CZUK (say, chook).

The suffix CZUK is particular to surnames found and originating in western Ukraine, an area that was once occupied by Poland.

CZUK (sometimes spelt CUK) when written singularly, means a ‘mouth’ or ‘snout’ in Ukrainian.

When used as a surname suffix, CZUK, sometimes transcribed CHUK, designates one as being the son of.

PALASZCZUK, basically, one who is the son of a soldier, or one who points out errors in others – someone who is censorious or pedantic?

As for the correct rendering of the name, the ‘L’ in the surname PALASZCZUK originally had a diacritical mark through it; this being best described as a forward slash ‘/’ through the ‘L’.
Annastacia is more rendiscent and common of an eastern Slavic (Ukrainian) Christian name than Polish.

The Polish rendering of Anastasia is Anastazja – not Annastacia; just as the correct form of Ludovica is Ludwika – not the eastern Slavic Ludviga or Ludwiga!

Wolka (usually spelt with a diacritical mark, or an apostrophe, over the o) is indicative of a hamlet, or a new settlement and is in most cases conjunctive with another appellation to form a place name, e.g. Wolka Lubieszowska.

Wulce on the other hand, more correctly spelt WOLCZE (the ‘L’ having a diacritical forward slash ‘/’ through it) is now known as Volche, or Volchýe and located in the Ukraine about Turka (49°13? N x 22°53? E).

Now given that the surname PALASZCZUK is most certainly eastern Slavic, or Ukrainian in its origin, it is more than likely the family originates from that area about Palashevka/Palashivka in the Ternopil Oblast in western Ukraine (48°58? N x 25°34? E) .

Palashevka is only 195.57 kilometres due east of Volche.

PALASZCZUK is a surname commensurate to that of an ethnic Ukrainian and for all intents and purposes the family originates from the Ukraine; it is not of Polish origin!

So why does our Premier insist on the pronunciation PAL-LA-SHAY?

Well, PAL-LA-SHAY does have a distinctively nice sound when elucidated, a bit like the French palais – a palace, especially a French government or municipal building.

Or could the pronunciation be more a case of family lore, or even an attempt by the Palaszczuk family to hide their true ethnic roots by passing themselves off as Poles.

Passing-off one’s self as being of Polish ancestry was typical of an earlier era of immigration in the twentieth century when linguistic hostility prevailed against eastern Slavic (Ukrainian) families who tried to mask the stigma of their true ethnic identity and origins in order to cross international borders, emigrate, and assimilate into unwary foreign populations unacquainted with their history.

Of course, not saying that our Premier’s family was involved in anything untoward or mischievious.

Eastern Europe was in turmoil, a bloodbath during the first decades of the twentieth century and the animosity between Poles and Ukrainians was particularly vehement as a result of a series of bloody conflicts and ethnic cleansing perpetrated mainly against Poles by Ukrainians over lands won by Poland during the 1919-1921 Polish-Soviet War.

The Polish-Soviet War saw the birth of the Second Republic of Poland (Polish, Rzeczpospolita Polska).

Poland had not existed as an independent sovereign state since the Third Partition of her lands by Prussia, the Austrian, and the Russian Empires in 1795.

To reduce the probability of further military and political aggression and incursion into her newly acquired lands, the Polish State settled ethnic Poles (mainly those with a military background) along her eastern borderland corridor (the Kresy); this resulted in a well-entrenched animosity between Poles and Ukrainians which continues to this day.

And contrary to some claims and rumours, the name PALASZCZUK does not appear in any of the registers of the Polish nobility and our Queensland Premier is not a Princess.’

Indeed, she isn’t!

cohenite
December 24, 2021 12:04 pm

Sporting records: real women compared to boy sporting records:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10160001385211096&set=a.10154002045296096

Anchor What
Anchor What
December 24, 2021 12:04 pm

Shocking!
Albanese accuses the coalition of playing politics with da virus.

Roger
Roger
December 24, 2021 12:05 pm

Oh, and a bit of background about Helon:

‘With William F. Hoffman I co-authored First Names of the Polish Commonwealth: Origins & Meanings. Polish Genealogical Society of America: Chicago, USA; 1998.

I am also the Australian representative of the Polish Nobility Association Foundation (PNAF) based in the United States of America.’

Helon is a QLD businessman who owns a medical supplies company which has won international awards for innovation.

I think I’ll leave the matter to rest there for now unless someone comes up with definitive evidence that contradicts Helon’s claims.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 24, 2021 12:06 pm

Layer upon layer of mystery.
Like an onion.

Thank goodness we’ve got Ed.

HD
HD
December 24, 2021 12:07 pm

vr says:
December 24, 2021 at 11:54 am

“Booster wait times cut from 6 to 5 to 4 months. Is there scientific evidence that backs the last two changes?”

I suppose there is the observed evidence(?) Not enough deaths to report on the evening news as would suit the narrative.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 24, 2021 12:10 pm

Shocking!
Albanese accuses the coalition of playing politics with da virus.

A day is a long time in politics.

EvilElvis
EvilElvis
December 24, 2021 12:11 pm

She’s heard that serious numbers of small contactor workers have resigned, to go sweep floors on 1/4 the money for BHP, where they’ve got protection from jab mandates in an industry that might still exist in twelvw months time.

Not on a WA BHP site, the mandate is in.

Slim Cognito
Slim Cognito
December 24, 2021 12:15 pm

From the local Hobart fish wrap today.

I wouldn’t even use it to wrap my fish. Might make it taste bitter.

Ellen of Tasmania
Ellen of Tasmania
December 24, 2021 12:15 pm

Do you ever despair of your own thoughtlessness? I decided on blue, green and red cello with a lovely matching tartan ribbon to do all the Christmas wrapping. When I looked at the size of the cello sheets and the size of some of the pressies, I realised there was a distinct lack of forethought involved.

Confession: I stuck a couple of oversized gifts into feed bags and tied them up with that lovely ribbon. I’d wrapped 25 odd gifts and those big bundles just taunted me the whole time. You live and learn, but I think I’ll be dead long before I do.

There’ll be about 25 for lunch tomorrow and only one lone vaxxed amongst us. Not a problem to him or us.

Have a wonderful Christmas, Cats. God bless us, everyone.

EvilElvis
EvilElvis
December 24, 2021 12:16 pm

Calli, the defense of boomers is admiral yet misguided.

Who is the largest voting block in the country? Who is all this protection racket aimed at?

This could all end tomorrow if a large group of boomers mobilised and hooked into their elected representatives. But they won’t, they just love that warm government embrace that ushers them on to 100. Such a pity, they’ll also be the longest living generation so this shit won’t end peacefully or soon.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 24, 2021 12:17 pm

Good pickup on the sporting records, cohenite.

Captain Obvious to most, but laid out like that – spot on.

Barry
Barry
December 24, 2021 12:19 pm

H B Bear says:
December 24, 2021 at 11:55 am

Hard to think of a situation where the Bentley isn’t the right car for the job.

Especially when taking a big load to the tip!

Anchor What
Anchor What
December 24, 2021 12:20 pm

Headlines:
1. Dr Kerry Chant had been lobbying the NSW government to bring back mandatory masks during the Omicron outbreak before restrictions were reintroduced, according to the Deputy Premier.
(no surprises there)
2. Aussies have had their Christmas plans thrown into disarray after Covid-19 forced Jetstar and Virgin to cancel dozens of flights.
(no, Covid-19 didn’t “force” them, the Health Advice and politicians did)

Anchor What
Anchor What
December 24, 2021 12:21 pm

Calli, the defense of boomers is admiral yet misguided.
I’d say it’s a Commodore at most.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 24, 2021 12:21 pm

Ayres stands like a rock…

NSW government defends backflip on indoor mask restrictions (24 Dec)

NSW Deputy Liberal leader Stuart Ayres has defended his government’s backflip on indoor mask mandates given the evolving COVID situation calls for a “constant evaluation” of restrictions.

It comes as New South Wales officials reinstated restrictions a day before Christmas in a bid to slow the spread of Omicron.

Can we be allowed a “constant evaluation” of pollies? I think some should be immediately quarantined from infecting us with their brain illnesses.

Anchor What
Anchor What
December 24, 2021 12:23 pm

The idiots haven’t learned a thing about Ominicron except that it is, like the common cold and the annual flu, very contagious.

Pogria
Pogria
December 24, 2021 12:23 pm

Booster wait times cut from 6 to 5 to 4 months. Is there scientific evidence that backs the last two changes? Or are the the vaccines less efficacious than what has been claimed? Or is the change in times done to calm nerves of the frazzled populace?

vr,
all of the above.
They are simple pulling pieces of paper out of a hat. Or throwing darts at a chart on wall. Take your pick.

Anchor What
Anchor What
December 24, 2021 12:24 pm

Dr. Bahkdi warned ages ago that mRNA vaccines were dangerous and became more dangerous with more boosters.

Roger
Roger
December 24, 2021 12:24 pm

And now for something completely different:

All The Beatles’ songs ranked by the NME.

Brief rationales supplied.

I think they’ve got it about right, although number 1 will cause arguments among fans around the Christmas dinner table. It’s certainly always been one of my favourites.

Roger
Roger
December 24, 2021 12:30 pm

“Booster wait times cut from 6 to 5 to 4 months. Is there scientific evidence that backs the last two changes?”

And from 31 January it will be down to three months.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 24, 2021 12:34 pm

I think they’ve got it about right, although number 1 will cause arguments among fans

Day in the Life at only #2, heresy!
Lot of stuff I would demote, like Hey Jude, which gives me the irrits.

Winston Smith
December 24, 2021 12:37 pm

Mater:
Do you have a link to the Solzhenitsyn 3 volume?
I’ll wish you a merry Christmas if you can link it.
If you can’t, I’ll send around a herd of zombie reindeer to entertain you at the New Years party, maaate.

mc
mc
December 24, 2021 12:37 pm

Booster wait times cut from 6 to 5 to 4 months. Is there scientific evidence that backs the last two changes?

Give the rapid decline in efficacy, I wonder if any infection introduced to the body at regular intervals would not have the same effect as the vax, kick starting the immune system to be on the front foot.

shatterzzz
December 24, 2021 12:38 pm

It’s no wonder dum parrot-head is testing the water with his mask back-on gig for an after NY ramp up of restrictions .. the sheeple are luvvin’ the latest BAT FLU scare campaign! ..
Rode past the local Fairfield BAT FLU drive-in this morning and upwards of 100 vehicles in the queue (lotza masked drivers .. lol!) . . over the last 6 months any numbers over 5 classed the joint as BUSY …… LOL!

Roger
Roger
December 24, 2021 12:41 pm

Lot of stuff I would demote, like Hey Jude, which gives me the irrits.

The ending coda? Yeah.

But the verse melody perfectly suits the subject matter.

JC
JC
December 24, 2021 12:41 pm

dover0beach says:
December 24, 2021 at 12:22 pm

Two doses of Pfizer and Moderna useless after a month re omicron. If this is true re doses, the booster is only going to give you another month at 50% VE before cratering as well. This booster daisy chain will not end well.

I’m getting very close to pulling the trigger on shorting the pharmas. But I think there’s still going to be a panic in the short term. I suspect Omni is a potentially dying gasp by covid as the virus is desperately attempting to mutate trying find a way to meet new hosts as the old versions are succeeding. It sounds from the symptoms – sniffles, cough, upper respiratory inflammation, headaches and slightly elevated fever that it’s … a fucking cold!. I’m due for a booster, but sure as hell it will be the last.

I suspect Omni is the immunity as we will all get it. Sure, there will be bodies floating around but a frail 85 year old could be blown over by the draft from a fan. Timing is important, but if I’m right there’s a few dollars to be made in shorting Pfizer etc.

JC
JC
December 24, 2021 12:47 pm

Get a load of the beauty of this chart for shorting. Max out Pfizer on this chart. It’s gorgeous. If the vax is maxed out, this stock is heading back into the 20s.

I suspect the “viral blizzard” is a made up term coming from the Pharmas. I love pharma but it’s a transitory love. Love them one day and hate them the next.

JC
JC
December 24, 2021 12:48 pm
Lysander
Lysander
December 24, 2021 12:50 pm

Bloody dumb decision coming into Perth city for work today… there’s about three of us on an entire floor… could be random rambling on the Cat today…(at least till 2pm-ish)…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 24, 2021 12:51 pm

“Booster wait times cut from 6 to 5 to 4 months. Is there scientific evidence that backs the last two changes?”

The science is as follows:-
Compress all the boosters into Feb-March.
Choke off the state distribution points.
Publish daily updates on the numbers of “vunnerable people” who can’t get their booster because ScoMo, all the way to election day.

Lysander
Lysander
December 24, 2021 12:52 pm

Basically just hanging around to see when McClown’s presser is and whether I’ll be attending midnight mass or not (in a church, with masks, at 35 degrees)…

Mater
December 24, 2021 12:52 pm

Mater:
Do you have a link to the Solzhenitsyn 3 volume?

https://archive.org/details/TheGulagArchipelago

You can play direct or download MP3s from the RH sidebar.

Play around, you’ll work out how. It’s all there.

Woolfe
Woolfe
December 24, 2021 12:55 pm

finger in the dyke

Sorry, its not that type of blog.

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 24, 2021 12:58 pm

not saying that our Premier’s family was involved in anything untoward or mischievious.

Surely no one is suggesting Anna the Munificent’s enthusiasm for Othering and Incarcerating
has anything to do with Grandad possibly pursuing exciting career opportunities
available to motivated Ukrainians, in Poland after 1941.

jupes
jupes
December 24, 2021 12:59 pm

Staying in a Hobart hotel with the Melbourne Stars at the minute. You know what that means? I am in the same building as the great man himself.

Joe Burns.

JC
JC
December 24, 2021 1:01 pm

The science is as follows:-

It’s, it’s the viral blizzard.

Tell me that wasn’t thought up within the innards of a pr firm as an attempt at persuasive propaganda.

rosie
rosie
December 24, 2021 1:04 pm

Waiting for the announcement that covid is officially endemic and at risk categories can get free flucovid boosters in may, everyone can pay.
If the new qld cho is true to his word then this should be the 2022 reality.
Maybe nannanna is ahead of the pack with this cho pick.

JC
JC
December 24, 2021 1:06 pm

A lot of people here blame the governments about the mess we’re in with regard to the vax. I’m not so sure though. Governments generally are wasteful, indolent and dumb by and large. They will gravitate towards making decisions which appear to be the safe bet.

I suspect that most of the vax info is being fed to the public health apparatus by big pharma or big pharma aligned groups. This is where the bad stuff is coming from.

shatterzzz
December 24, 2021 1:08 pm

All The Beatles’ songs ranked by the NME.

Find it difficult to believe .. PLEASE, PLEASE ME! is way down in the 50s ………

Winston Smith
December 24, 2021 1:08 pm

Feelthebern:

Even though I heard of chicken pox parties growing up, I didn’t know of any that actually happened.
You can make the case for young people having omicron parties this summer.
It is the perfect time.

I remember when I was 4, a particular party where one of the sisters brought Geman Measles home. We all slept in the one big bed – for one night only because the girls complained about the boys having ‘boy germs’.
With 36 kids in the NCCH, there was no need for parties – if one got it, we all did.
It would have been an epidemiologists nightmare trying to track the contacts.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 24, 2021 1:10 pm

I am in the same building as the great man himself.

Joe Burns.

omg omg omg omg like I know right?

Totes devo it’s not me. I can’t even deal. Like, literally.

Winston Smith
December 24, 2021 1:10 pm

rosie:

You know the dress requirements.
White capris.
Open toed tandals,
painted toe nails,
something bright and frothy on top,
stylish hair with a lick of deep purple

…and for the girls…?

Not Uh oh
Not Uh oh
December 24, 2021 1:11 pm

OK, so with the arrival of the Christmas break testing numbers should be well down, which means positive cases will be down, which means ‘hey presto’ the mask mandate is working. Simples.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
December 24, 2021 1:15 pm

Apparently Perth is full of diseased Frenchmen or something, so I have cancelled plans to head there for the annual family fistfight and pissup tomorrow.

There will be a convoy heading to Kalgoorlie instead, all driven by junior designated drivers there and back, with a severe warning that any speeding tickets will be paid out of their own pockets.

It will be cooler in Kal than Perth (42C predicted there) and nobody in the Goldfields give a fat rat’s ring about face nappies or social distancing.

Anyway, best wishes to all Cats for Christmas, be back in the New Year if the young hoons don’t kill me on the road trip or a drunken rellie cuts loose with a shotgun.

shatterzzz
December 24, 2021 1:17 pm

Do you have a link to the Solzhenitsyn 3 volume?
All this about the Gulag Archipalego 3 volume edition .. reminiscent of a Salvo op-shop last week (my 1st post Dec 15 foray) .. picked up a one volume H/C edition of Gibbon’s Decline & Fall by D M Low .. 924 pages NO pix, 1974 printing for $2.00 in mint condition ..

local oaf
December 24, 2021 1:17 pm

Calli, the defense of boomers is admiral yet misguided.

It’s just ensign of the times 🙂

will
will
December 24, 2021 1:24 pm

Surely no one is suggesting Anna the Munificent’s enthusiasm for Othering and Incarcerating has anything to do with Grandad possibly pursuing exciting career opportunities
available to motivated Ukrainians, in Poland after 1941.

No. but I note that once those career opportunities were no longer available, it was wise for the participants to move as far away as possible,

Bons
December 24, 2021 1:25 pm

Tru nuff JC, but the pollies have an absolute obligation to have critical advice tested and verified. This they have not only failed to do, they just couldn’t be bothered (or have acted corruptly in support of relies or cronies in the pocket of pharma).
Just look at the moronic collection scammers, commies, fail upwarders, globalists, cronies and plain idiots purporting to be CHO’s.
Under no circumstances would you you wouldn’t let them advise you on anything, and certainly not life critical issues.
The pollies don’t care. Panic is a great election strategy – ask Mrs Anastasia Bucket

JC
JC
December 24, 2021 1:29 pm

Yea, bons. I agree with your point. Governments are there to make the hard decisions. I wasn’t really arguing against that. We live in an administrative state now.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 24, 2021 1:30 pm

You can see how Anal thinks he is on the cusp of getting something he’s been scheming for since he started his bludge uni course.

JC
JC
December 24, 2021 1:32 pm

Another example of what I mean.

Fat Tony says:
December 23, 2021 at 5:51 pm
calli says:
December 23, 2021 at 5:35 pm
I’m not even allowed to step inside my doctor’s surgery.

Flyingduk made a comment about how debased his profession has become.

What has happened to him? He seems to have gone MIA.

Arky censored one of the Duk’s comments to which the Duk replied something along the lines of ” Good bye Arky” I don’t think he’s been back since.

Duk, if you’re reading this, don’t assume most folks here are like Thought Leader. Come back and just ignore his stupid threads. He’s just a fucking idiot with similar ‘attributes” to that other loser, Faulty. These are, overconfidence built on quicksand, stupid attempts at manipulating opinion and anger when people disagree.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 24, 2021 1:34 pm

Amazing!
I woke up this morning and found out I’m now unvaccinated and overdue for the next heart stopper.
A Christmas miracle.

rosie
rosie
December 24, 2021 1:37 pm

Will no-one think of Big Patho?

Zatara
Zatara
December 24, 2021 1:40 pm

JC

While not disagreeing with your point regarding the pharma companies, I think that ignores the designed political impacts of this invented ‘crisis’.

This situation was shaped specifically for governments to train their populaces to obedience.

Razey
Razey
December 24, 2021 1:45 pm

Bonssays:
December 24, 2021 at 1:25 pm
Tru nuff JC, but the pollies have an absolute obligation to have critical advice tested and verified. This they have not only failed to do, they just couldn’t be bothered (or have acted corruptly in support of relies or cronies in the pocket of pharma).
Just look at the moronic collection scammers, commies, fail upwarders, globalists, cronies and plain idiots purporting to be CHO’s.
Under no circumstances would you you wouldn’t let them advise you on anything, and certainly not life critical issues.
The pollies don’t care. Panic is a great election strategy – ask Mrs Anastasia Bucket

I think there are limits on how long people can stay ‘panicked’ before they have to give it up or face a major mental health crisis.

EvilElvis
EvilElvis
December 24, 2021 1:47 pm

Duk, if you’re reading this, don’t assume most folks here are like Thought Leader. Come back and just ignore his stupid threads. He’s just a fucking idiot with similar ‘attributes” to that other loser, Faulty. These are, overconfidence built on quicksand, stupid attempts at manipulating opinion and anger when people disagree.

The retarded libertarian Kerry Spacker has spoken, children.

Razey
Razey
December 24, 2021 1:49 pm

Farmer Gezsays:
December 24, 2021 at 1:34 pm
Amazing!
I woke up this morning and found out I’m now unvaccinated and overdue for the next heart stopper.
A Christmas miracle.

One of us! Imagine risking major heart problems 3 or 4 times a year.

The great thing is every 3 to 4 months, everyone has the chance to be redeemed and join the forces of Light and Purity!

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 24, 2021 1:49 pm

The corona blues.

I woke up this morning [da da dee da]
and found out [da da dee da]
I’m now unvaccinated [da da dee da]
and overdue for [da da dee da]
the next heart stopper. [da da dee da]
A Christmas miracle. [da da dee da]

jupes
jupes
December 24, 2021 1:51 pm

I agree with JC that the health bureaucracy and big pharma are running things at the minute. Parrothead caving to Chant and Hazzard is proof of that.

If you really need to shut someone up, put $50 on the table and say, “What is the name of W.A.’s Chief Health Officer?”

The exception is McClown. The health bureaucracy don’t need to run him. He is ahead of them. No doubt, if and when he ever gives up the reins of power in the West, he will be offered a nice directorship somewhere in the health sector.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 24, 2021 1:54 pm

On the bright side,
I woke up this morning.

Lysander
Lysander
December 24, 2021 1:54 pm

WA Dear Leader presser at 1130am…

John H.
John H.
December 24, 2021 1:59 pm

Opioid Prescribing Declines, but Cuts Are Not Uniform – Crisis Kills More Than 100,000 Americans Annually

There is wide agreement that the overprescribing of opioid medication for pain was a key driver in creation of the U.S. opioid crisis, which has led to widespread addiction and now kills more than 100,000 Americans annually.

I’ve read Dopesick Nation and certainly Big Pharma has to share some of the blame. Big Pharma doesn’t write scripts, all it can do is persuade doctors to write scripts. Doctors are responsible for the welfare of their patients, not Big Pharma. How many doctors have been subject to penalty for over prescribing?

Zatara
Zatara
December 24, 2021 2:02 pm

Officer Potter was guilty of Involuntary Manslaughter. 1st Degree Manslaughter requires intent to kill in US law.

Why she was made a police officer and how police officers are trained is another issue.

cohenite
December 24, 2021 2:03 pm

The IEA mourning the continued dominance of coal:

Coal-fired power generation is set to reach an all-time
high in 2021
The declines in global coal-fired power generation in 2019 and 2020
led to expectations that it might have peaked in 2018. But 2021
dashed those hopes. With electricity demand outpacing low-carbon
supply, and with steeply rising natural gas prices, global coal power
generation is on course to increase by 9% in 2021 to 10 350
terawatt-hours (TWh) – a new all-time high. However, coal’s share
of the global power mix in 2021 is expected to be 36% – 5
percentage points below its 2007 peak. In the United States and the
European Union, coal power generation is forecast to increase by
almost 20% in 2021 but will not reach 2019 levels. By contrast,
estimated growth of 12% in India and 9% in China will push coal
power generation to record levels in both countries. Taking into
account the rebound in global industrial output, overall coal demand
worldwide is expected to grow by 6% in 2021, bringing it close to
the record levels it reached in 2013 and 2014.
China continues to dominate global coal trends
China’s influence on coal markets is difficult to overstate. China’s
power generation, including district heating, accounts for one-third
of global coal consumption. China’s overall coal use is more than
half of the global total. Coal demand in China is underpinned by fast
growing electricity demand and the resilience of heavy industry.

Arky
December 24, 2021 2:03 pm

Uh oh.
U-turn started.
In two months time it’ll be convinced it always thought this way.
Dishonest.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 24, 2021 2:10 pm

the U.S. opioid crisis, which has led to widespread addiction and now kills more than 100,000 Americans annually.

Whereas the overreaction to the so-called opioid crisis has lead to millions of people suffering silently in agony because GPs are shit-scared to prescribe meaningful pain relief.

Wowsers are persecuting the ill because of wowserism and virtue signalling. Yet I betcha all the same people are full-on marijuana legalization for pain relief. I have contempt for all of them, and I don’t have chronic pain.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 24, 2021 2:14 pm

Here’s the link:
https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/researchpapers/Documents/the-political-representation-of-ethnic-and-racia/PoliticalRepFINALandINDEX.pdf
Scroll to p. 86 of 95,; Electorates of Ethnic Members of Queensland Parliament:
Palaszczuk, H. Born in Greece to Polish parents.
Game, Set and Match to me, I’d say.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 24, 2021 2:19 pm

Game, Set and Match to me, I’d say.

Ed.

Once again, your opponents are playing 4D chess. You, on the other hand, are struggling to open the Snakes and Ladders box.

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