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And so we return to the beginning… (…of the working week.)
Must Be Jelly.
Old Lefty April 28, 2024 11:20 pmInteresting choice of headline from the BBC: ‘Biden roasts Trump at correspondents dinner.’ Obama was…
Interesting choice of headline from the BBC: ‘Biden roasts Trump at correspondents dinner.’ https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68915195 I assume the roasting was metaphorical.
Sancho Panzer says:
January 13, 2022 at 9:22 pm
You seem upset Tony.
What is it about Rosie’s travels which has upset you so?
Fuck off SP/PH/LL – you’re just a smartarse. And poor reading comprehension skills as well – I thought I made it pretty clear above.
Speed it up, and it’s Metallica.
Death Penalty · Witchfinder General
OK, the world has now officially gone completely bonkers. A woman in Canada has been diagnosed as suffering from Climate Change.
At the 42 minute mark here.
I don’t think you did Tones.
It was just a sudden off tap rant.
Was it in your head but you didn’t type it out maybe?
I genuinely don’t know what had toppled your gyros.
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure says:
January 13, 2022 at 9:27 pm
Staff rang it up on the register, a few hundred bucks.
I opened the wallet & started peeling off from the roll….
…”Ooooh, we’re card only, our owner went cashless two years ago with covid.”
Last time I looked, our bank notes had “Legal tender throughout Australia” printed on them.
So how can a vendor/shoppie refuse “legal tender” ??
Ladies please. It’s not that sort of blog.
Sancho Panzer says:
January 13, 2022 at 9:34 pm
Go fuck yourself dickhead – no further correspondence will be entered into.
(I have always had a special hatred for smart-arses, who just like playing with words)
OK JC.
Changing the subject, I miss IT’s commentary around here.
You know else who I really miss?
Ellie.
Anyone know what became of her?
JC says:
January 13, 2022 at 9:35 pm
Ladies please. It’s not that sort of blog.
JC – I respect your opinion – what’s your verdict on the “Legal tender” issue above?
Can I talk about atheism?
So how can a vendor/shoppie refuse “legal tender” ??
This has been on my radar, one or two hospitality venues around here have opened up card only.
I’da thunk that card-only registers within a larger venue might be ok… but yep, it’s legal tender. It’s worth making a minor stink over. Perth Mint is now card-only for buyers, and that’s petty rotten.
Some of my best friends were Catholics?
bespoke says:
January 13, 2022 at 9:39 pm
Can I talk about atheism?
Of course you can, bespoke. Just don’t write my name anywhere….
…”Ooooh, we’re card only, our owner went cashless two years ago with covid.”
Me: “We can’t go any further with this then, I carry only cash”
Finding this more and more. I went back to cash to avoid CC transaction fees that are now being applied to EFTPOS by some merchants. Also getting more incredulous looks when handing over a pineapple for a transaction, don’t know why it is still legal tender. for now…
A relative who travelled in November reckons QR station except the airport in Brisbane wont accept cash either, unless you use a ticket machine.
OK Fat Tony
With all due respect – what is there to talk about?
bespoke says:
January 13, 2022 at 9:44 pm
OK Fat Tony
AARRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!
How long until the rozzers use EFTPOS info to ping a shopper as a batflu contact? Saves all thye hassles with a QR code signing in…
Cash is legal tender.
It does not mean it is can be enforced as the sole and exclusive mode of settling a debt.
Try suing the business for not taking cash.
It would last five minutes.
I’d argue the magistrate has no standing.
Uh-oh.
(Reaches under the counter frantically searching for the alert button).
re NASA research on fusion: what needs to be remembered is that NASA is now largely a sheltered workshop like the CSIRO for those aerospace people who can’t get a job at SpaceX. The current iteration ISN’T the organisation that put men on the moon. Some parts like JPL still do a great job with planetary probes though.
Sancho came across this in the early 2000’s when I had to rent a property in Queensland, Real Estate had some thing going with the Ambassador Card they foisted on us when they discontinued Direct Credit for rent payments. Problem with the card was there was a monthly admin fee and transaction charges every time you paid the rent. Naturally I asked what the alternatives were, Cheque was it and unless approved Bank Cheque only. Further question on what “free” way to pay the rent was available was met with none, sorry not our fault we don’t take cash. Seeing’s the admin charge on the Ambassador card was exactly the cost of a bank cheque I sent a monthly bank cheque which they hated, I know they were very pushy with the card.
I did some digging with Office Fair trading and Tenants Union at the time and found out it was all perfectly legal. That was nearly 20yo.
Former prime minister and passionate republican Paul Keating has savaged the latest proposal to elect an Australian head of state, saying the country would be better off remaining a constitutional monarchy than experimenting with a “US-style” presidency.
Mr Keating, who championed the republican cause as prime minister, said the Australian Republic Movement’s (ARM) model of voters electing a head of state from a pool of 11 nominees would threaten the system of parliamentary democracy that has served Australia well since federation.
“Australia is in no requirement of a US-style presidency with its grandiosity and propensity to throw up individuals of the Donald Trump variety,” Mr Keating told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age. “Australia is safer and better with the diffuse and representative power structure it currently enjoys.”
Mr Keating said under the ARM’s proposal released on Wednesday, power would be “purloined to an individual, who alone would possess the popular mandate and with it, the primary political authority the mandate would bestow”.
He said a republic built upon the election of a president by a popular vote across the states would represent “a massive shift in the current model of power” and would “change forever the model of representative governance that Australia currently enjoys”.
“With the power of a popular mandate, a new president would render subordinate all other officers of state, including the current office of prime minister and that of the cabinet,” he said.
Mr Keating said he remained in favour an Australian head of state being appointed by a two-thirds majority of both houses of Parliament – the model rejected by voters at the 1999 referendum.
You are right RockDoctor.
Like it or not, businesses don’t have to take cash.
As I say, have a crack at litigating that.
The first three arguments will be:-
.1 OH&S. Security and safety for staff by removing the risk of armed robberies.
.2 Asset protection. Prevention of pilfering of cash by staff.
.3 Record keeping. Non-cash transactions enable easier and more accurate record keeping.
.4 Case dismissed.
A ball of lies.
We didn’t elect you directly and you were just as bombastic and had done nothing but be a career politician.
He has never heard of Ireland.
The PM is immensely powerful.
At least he has had a go at this stupid model, albeit for the wrong reasons.
Oh dear.
SS Bandana Republic holed below the waterline before leaving port.
Trump or Keating as a Prime Minister?
Significant downside to a business accepting only card: Payment by card slows down any transaction.
Too much time being lost in the transaction can have a significant & deleterious effect on turnover.
Battleground Melbourne Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzfJGC1_yPo
Should put the kiss of death on the republic for the next fifteen years or so. Memo Paul Keating – the voters have already rejected your choice of a model.
Why couldn’t the Chief Justice of the High Court carry out the formal duties of GG?
And just piss off all the trivial garden party and patron of charities bullshit.
Obviously need a mechanism if there was a Constitutional crisis involving a dispute between the Executive and the High Court.
But anything is better than having a President elected on the back of a Karl and Kochie campaign.
Why is that a concern for the customer?
If the business thinks the costs of merchant fees and a short delay in receipt is outweighed by the benefits, isn’t it their call?
Only if they’re fourth in line.
Unlikely a business would think anything of the sort – hence all the places who are “card only” are slow traffic sites.
I think you mean cashflow, not turnover.
Turnover (revenue) remains the same whether you receive it now in cesh, in 2-3 days as a card transaction or 30-60-90 days as a credit transaction.
Bruce of Newcastle,
Just bought a couple of Bob Shawsmbooks on your recommendation.
I shall report back at some stage soon.
Have some heavy reading to plough through.
Spent most of the day putting up a mates shed, stinking hot and no wind, got through about 16L of water.
Drove back past the airport. You wouldn’t reckon that some stinking white Jet Fuel tanks could make your eyes misty.
Is Queensssland NBN super-slow?
Why is cash so much faster than tap and go?
Where I use it, cash is slower.
The attendant rings up the sale, the amount appears on the payment device, I tap, it beeps.
Under $100 no PIN.
Game over.
Usually cash transactions involve some codger scratching around in their wallet and the attendant dicking around with change (coz they don’t have much of it any more).
OK – legal tender vs eftpos
Has anyone ruled definitively whether a business can refuse legal tender.
The signs I’ve seen indicate contactless payment preferred (not obligatory)
“Australia is safer and better with the diffuse and representative power structure it currently enjoys.”
I think everyone’s had a gut full of fucking “safety”, we’ve just had two years of safety driving stupidity with more to come.
Dot,
Your photo.
I suggest you stick a roll of socks down the front of your Speedos.
Just saying.
Anyway, Sal, no point you projecting your views on how a business should conduct itself.
If their model is grossly inefficient, the market will take care of that.
But it is their right to run their business the way they see fit, no?
A rare breed, someone who actually enjoys their job?
And booted for not getting a medical procedure they didn’t need. Where is the justice?
She’s already the Administrator.
There are so many ways to do it. What the ARM come up with is usually very crummy and is from the bowels of the social democrat, upper middle class ALP dregs.
Barry:
There may be other reasons for this phenomenon.
PreCovid examination and measure:
PostCovid examination and measure:
From the RBA website:-
Case closed.
You’re welcome.
Sancho Panzer says:
January 13, 2022 at 10:35 pm
Definitive answer – thank you
A box with 2 or 3 live rounds left over from the earlier plinking in amongst the dummies sounds so different?
She’s cooked.
Why the fuck would they do that when 95% of the population is injected with 5G tracking particles?
A local Aboriginal land council has won a nine year battle for a land claim over a prestigious tennis club on Sydney’s north shore.
An Indigenous cultural experience could be created at Talus Reserve in Naremburn after the Sydney Metropolitan Land Council was granted control of 1.5ha of the site.
The successful claim will have implications for the Northern Suburbs Tennis Association which has which has occupied the site for 40 years, has a base of 3800 players and boasts high-profile office bearers and patrons such as Gladys Berejiklian, Evonne Goolagong and former Willoughby Mayor Gail Giles-Gidney.
The land claim was lodged back in 2013 and since then has been stuck in limbo as the NSW Crown Lands weighed up where it should be approved.
Ok, so we’ve lost free-range cash to electronically trackable microchips.
We’ve also lost free movement to State border, LGA and regional closures.
We’ve also lost confidential medical practice to the QR-coded diktats of CHO’s and collegial threats of deregistration.
I still think it’s worth kicking against the pricks.
Your thinking is in error.
I mean turnover. (It is the same thing as cashflow in this circumstance)
And another one
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10396215/Medical-emergency-crowd-Tottenham-v-Chelsea-game-causes-lengthy-delay.html
Every match day there’s a cardiac arrest, either on the pitch or in the stands.
Dear Western Australians
Never provide proof of vaccination to access public venues, even if you possess such proof. Do you want to live in a segregated, Vere Are Your Papers society? This is where it starts, and it only starts if you obey.
This is the hill to die on.
If enough people ignore McGowan’s dictatorial decree, he will have to choose between not enforcing it (see: the ‘mandatory’ QR code registers that are routinely ignored) and enforcing it (see: how to go from largest governing majority in WA history to defeat in one term or less).
By all means protest about it.
My point was it is not illegal to refuse cash.
There are complications to that for commercial transactions entered into where mode of settlement is not specified (not that this happens much anyway).
But for simple retail transactions, the shopkeeper is not acting outside the law in refusing cash.
Signs saying “Contactless payment preferred” do not mean that they have no right to refuse and are trying to weasel word around it.
It means what it says, and they are saying they will still accept cash as a courtesy, but not as a matter of right.
The tennis club should bulldoze all infrastructure before handing the land over in the original condition.
Sal.
Do you acknowledge that a retail business is able to legally refuse cash payment for goods and services?
Whether or not they lose custom is another matter, but ultimately a matter for them.
Incidentally, did you say the goods were second hand?
You’re not buying motel toasters and electric kettles from Vinnies are you?
Drop the sophistry.
A statement that card transactions take more time than cash is a factual observation, not a projection of any view, especially one on a particular business’ internal policies.
You are estopped from further sophisty.
Case closed.
You’re welcome.
Is that Law or their opinion?
My guess is that a legal tender can’t exist unless there is Law from its inception that states that it must be accepted as tender. Why the fuck would anyone accept what is nothing more than a piece of paper?
Tailgunner’s moll.
Whoops. I liked, I pressed flag comment.
Sorry rick.
sigh, [more sophistry] Please point to where I have ever acknowledged otherwise.
(Thank you in advance)
To what goods do you refer?
rickw.
Paper notes and coins are legal tender.
They can be used to settle retail transactions where both parties agree on that as a mode of settlement.
The RBA statement was pretty definitive. Are you suggesting that they have deliberately misrepresented the underlying legislation?
We’re in for a bumpy couple of months. The state’s going to open, OMG’s going to enter, cases are going to explode, much ado will be made about little…however, there’s only so long before you realise that the boiling lava pit you think you fell into is actually a tepid wading pool.
Completely normal, that’s a deboonked conspiracy theory!
I remember Michael Owen and Thierry Henri used to have multiple heart attacks in the big Liverpool v Arsenal games. That 2001 FA Cup Final, Owen pulled through and had two more heart attacks than the Gunners could muster.
Final score: 2 – 0.
I was asking.
Were the goods second hand?
A new republic?
Sure – after the Purge.
If yer asking me, please, to which goods are you referring?
I do not sell any second hand goods. (nor does any other pub I know)
Learned Stupidity
I’m quite looking forward to Jan 31 / Feb 5.
I can at last say, “The state gov and all its acolytes have now made me an untermensch, time to drop any pretence of a “fair fight”.
You were attempting to buy goods at a store.
You offered cash as payment.
They refused to accept cash.
No transaction ensued.
Correct?
rickw.
A common misunderstanding.
Some (not all) states in the USA have made it illegal to refuse cash as payment.
This often gets reported in shorthand online as “it is illegal to refuse cash” without adding the qualifier “in Texas” or “in Georgia”.
(I only use those states as an illustration. I don’t know which ones have those cash laws).
Don’t get too excited about us here, mate.
The existing rules and signins are only lackadaisically enforced, if at all. And masks are only really still being worn (outside of any time people are concerned they may get snitched by some would-be Block Warden, and then only barely complied with) by the elderly, who may have a legitimate excuse for being extra careful, and the stupid who don’t.
WAPOL regularly just do actual policing things.
Sneakers won’t rescind. He can’t rescind. Even where practically nobody is obeying. Even his own enforcers.
It’s just not his way. And then he has no legacy, given his utter unremarkability outside of his classical ALP-maaaaaaaaaate and leftwit pressure-group pandering. He’s like the Bat-Eared Mong in this regard (right down to the copycat banning of all commercial logging in WA, letting his bugman mates in the Health system run amuck and tearing up infrastructure projects started by his predecessors that upset inner-urban NIMBYs). Just without the same propensity to open fire on his own citizens…
If the last 2 years have taught us anything it’s that lovely anonymous cash must be kept alive at any cost or we are completely fucked.
Oic, haha… that was most definitely new stuff.
It was some sort of kitchenware shop, just domestic-grade, aimed at householders.
It was presented well, very enticing, however most of the stuff wouldn’t stand up to much use (i.e. it was domestic grade) & there wasn’t much of a range, despite the look of the place.
Part of some corporate chain apparently. The prick who owns it must be loaded, from what I picked up talking to the staff (if I understood them correctly through the ruddy dog-muzzle we all gotta wear in shops)
And Atlas continues to shrug
In all seriousness, during just about every match there probably would be at least one medical emergency in the stands. I wonder why they’re now pausing games for them and why the media’s reporting on them.
Rex, I live in Wembley.
LOL
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The ones I have used were Roche branded, made in South Korea.
More mongian magical thinking.
Anyone wanting to launch a legal case to enshrine some obscure right to pay cash will have to contend with Slomo.
The same Slomo who’d wants to eliminate $100 & $50 bills, and who wants to limit cash payments to amounts below $5,000
Can I pay via a cheque drawn on my Perth Mint Trading Account?
Trading account not savings account, I must emphasise.
It’s backed by gold bullion so is rock solid.
Although, it is Perth, so …
Top Ender,
Apologies. Thanks for that. Must read it again.
What a misanthrope. Did he care at all about the unemployment that caused?
People have to earn a living to pay, through taxes for his job and military pension – and the court system he can work in later on.
What’s WA going to do? Use steel only or brick? What about the embedded emissions? Wood is renewable anyway. Bloody idiot.
More mongian magical thinking.
Calli:
The last time I went to church, I came out with a wife.
Haven’t been game to go back, they might give me another one.
tishboom…
I took Mrs OSC to the Royal North Shore hospital today and had our first really negative experience in several years of going there.
Entered the front door and was met by the usual group of officious clerical staff demanding proof of QR codes, medical masks, and vaccination certificates.
OK so far.
Then it’s “Where is your Carers Certificate sir? We are in a Code Red situation. No CC? No entry for you!”
Instant flare up from me was imminent but SWMBO’s appointment came first so after a tense 15 minute period of negotiations, telephone calls into the dim dark recesses of the hospital, and dealing with people whose revelled in their ability to dehumanise patients we got in.
Only to find out that the department we were headed to had even more stringent, additional, and separate Carers Card conditions.
Jumped that hurdle too.
Waited for 45 mins after the appointment time to be seen when her phone rang.
It was the registrar, acting for the professor we had come to see, doing a Telehealth call. He was 10 meters away in his office!
Didn’t even know we had been logged in by the receptionist.
The word clusterfuck immediately sprang to mind.
Given the very small number of people I saw in the hospital today, I can only imagine that the powers that be are striving mightily for the Yes Minister ideal of an efficient hospital with no patients.
If limiting the unvaxxed is wise, what about limiting fat people?
Using Australia as the benchmark for tyranny. Nice.
I wouldnae hold it against you. 🙂
But I remain increasingly convinced that the increasing majority of Sandgropers (and particularly those outside of the swankier elements of Perth and their coastal enclaves and dachas further south) are up past Pussy’s Bow with the rules and regs and voluntarily crippling themselves so as to placate Mark’s wrath.
Being locked down every Public Holiday and School Holidays up to Show Day in 2021 was enough to push folks over the edge.
The panic-buying of late is an indicator that the more strongly emotive elements of the Narrative are deeply embedded in the popular psyche, but I think people are not playing aby of Mark’s games beyond the bare minimum to avoid unwanted attention when he is wetting his pants about an ‘outbreak’ like Dirty Pierre and laat week’s Australind Affair. Otherwise, my observations of Perth Metro, the Wheatbelt and Kalgoorlie tell me that not much is complied with at all.
Twostix:
The Australian health advisory panel is comprised of 80% old chooks who probably have 14 cats each.
(I might have made up that last bit about the cats.)
Treating sick people seems to be at the bottom of the agenda.
Yes, I find the accelerationist argument to be increasingly compelling when it comes to the increasingly nutty path we’re on. It’s going to happen anyway, so bring it on hard and fast. Let’s see what’s on the other side and rebuild. Best to live on your feet and die on your knees, I reckon.
The trans shit is a good example. Let women’s sport get taken over by blokes in dresses. Faster, please! You wanted it, lefty ladies – now you’ve got it. Enjoy.
From the Oz:-
What the …
But we’ve opened up … and snap-back … and pilot-light WHOOSH … and $50 travel vouchers.
What is wrong with these people?
I know a bloke who worked how to play his wedding videos backwards – he says it’s a great thrill watching himself, walking out of the church a free man…
Regarding the North Shore Tennis Club and the land claim.
I see they have Ghastly Gladys as a patron.
Fuck ‘em.
What is it with Queenssslanders and cesh?
It seems they are finally starting to acknowledge the risks.
Booster Bust: Medical Establishment Changes Its Mind
Rex, I imagine there will be some not-insignificant handwringing when Covid finally arrives in force. The front page of The West will melt down for a week. But it will be the king hit that never lands. McGowan can’t keep us on Defcon 1 for long if the most severe symptoms of the dreaded coof are lingering bathos and anti-climax.
Rumour.
The Mint banned cash sales after it was found that several million dollars worth of gold had been purchased by “strawman” buyers over a period of a month in January/February 2021.
A big percentage of the buyers were chunks and none bought any quantity of bullion over the $10,000 reportable transaction mark.
Cash buyers did not have to produce ID at the Mint, nor were any records kept who came and went through the gold sales room.
All that has changed. Authorised card sales only, no entry to the very well guarded Mint precinct without a QR code verified by a guard at the gate. Of course we all know that QR codes are sacred and can never be accessed by Plod under any circumstances, don’t we.
The Perth Mint has some of the highest levels of security in the country, but they wouldn’t have facial recognition cameras all over the place would they?
Sancho.
Trading accounts at the Perth Mint are unchanged.
They know who you are.
.1 OH&S. Security and safety for staff by removing the risk of armed robberies.
.2 Asset protection. Prevention of pilfering of cash by staff.
.3 Record keeping. Non-cash transactions enable easier and more accurate record keeping.
.4 Case dismissed
Panzer, you sonofabitch.
. protocol.
Joe Rogan talking wheat on his podcast with Adam Curry.
Refers to a michelin star chef who only uses wheat from Italy.
So my name is still good in Perf, Pedro?
Can I pay you by cheque?
It’s drawn on my Rothwell’s Rocket Racer account.
All good?
Any talk of WA death gluten?
.5 Covid-safe measure: Couf-cooties may be on the cash.
This is the fake excuse used by;
.1 Most shops in Brisbane airport, and
.2 The “Victorian” (his staff’s descriptor of him) who owns the kitchenware shop where I (along with plenty of others it seems) didn’t get to buy anything.
Chap on Skynews who was trying to line up RATs from NSW & QLD last year but the CMO’s told him to get fucked.
The perfect system.
All the time in the world for the ward staff and medicos to maintain their compliance paperwork and mandatory training, complete their daily, weekly, monthly and quarterly OSH Committee/Morbidity & Mortality/Safety & Compliance/Education/Ward Round Meetings, and maybe even get a sneaky little TikTok dance in, too.
No Code Blues, Bed Status Reds or Blacks and associated discharge plans to suffer through. And no pesky patients carking it on you, forcing you to complete paperwork and ruining your day.
And trust me when I say that medicos take patients getting sick (let alone sicker) or dying while in their care as a very personal affront…
There’s a couple of names from the bad old days. Add Shirley Finn to that list..
There is zero doubt Kazakhstan is US/CIA caused.
Deep state demands war.
That “Aboriginal “interpreter”” & WA Premier McClownan is some sad shit.
Abso-zogging-lutely.
Not that it will stop him trying.
WA Apes Togevva Stronk, after all… 🙂
My 2c worth on the cash vs EFT. I am cool with EFT so long as the transaction attracts no fees not built into the retail price.
If you chose not to accept cash your choice, then you should be compelled to supply a method of payment without fees.
Wut?
???
No comprehende problemo.
McClown has a beautiful smooth brain.
Smoothest of the apes.
Out here in our little bush town there McShitstains threats and bullying will be interesting to watch as it plays out. We have a large majority of indigenous folk who are not good at following whiteys rules. When they can’t buy a carton of bush chook/wife beater coz they don’t have vax certificates, we will have some interesting moments ahead. Being the resourceful folk they are anyone who has the vax cert will become very popular.
Not long ago McShitstain was threatening to ban the unclean from roadhouses and servos, takeaways etc. This latest round of edicts has those places as ok for the unclean. This science thing has got an old fella like me confused.
Around here gold is still a very useful means of exchange. Our indigenous brothers routinely trade it for the essentials of traditional life, bush chook, fried chicken,coca cola and winfield.
Australia’s low levels of third dose vaccine coverage are contributing to high rates of omicron transmission, leading epidemiologists say.
Professor Tony Blakely, an epidemiologist and public health specialist at the University of Melbourne, told The Australian Financial Review he was “a little bit alarmed
If you ever find yourself needing this chaps services, just don’t.
I have the dubious distinction of being knocked back for a business loan by Laurie “Last Resort” Connell of WA’s Rothwells Bank infamy
The shame still lingers.
Ah, RockDoctor, but if your $200 transaction was the only cash transaction for the day, would you be happy to pay for someone to drive to the bank to deposit it?
That is a transaction cost too.
Panzer, put the “.” in the right place or piss off to the furniture store.
Faaaark!
You what?!?
I can’t even …
Knocked back by Last Resort Laurie?
Another place that refuses cash is… the Shire Council.
Can’t wait until I get a chance to drop a line (that’ll be recorded in the minutes) where I remark they either believe their office staff are dishonest, or that they’re too stupid to add up cash receipts at the end of the day.
(the latter is almost certainly true)
I see there’s been a bit of triggering tonight, intentional or otherwise.
Funny stuff.
You don’t want to be there.
Bird’s just reappeared under the name ‘Socialist Energy,’ and he’s calling Struth a collaborator.
Friday morning is gonna be a fun day with the Karcher for someone…
#BirdStrike
#Oof
The back yard of the Denver City Hotel in Coolgardie was, for many years, a trading post for the local indig old girls to sell the gold they had “specked” from around the area. They were pretty good at it, especially after rain, and often had up to an ounce for sale.
Some tourist types would turn up occasionally and try dud the old gals by offering a carton of ciggies or a few casks of plonk in exchange for a nugget or two,
Quite a few red faces when the seller would come back with “C.mon bloke, spot price today is $XXX. you fellas think I’m stupid”?
Eyrie:
I think there was an original Star Trek version along similar lines.
While we’re swapping yarns of loan knockbacks:
Got knocked back by the WA Lands Dept (or whatever it was called at the time), for no specific amount, however I’d written to them offering to allow them to finance me into a block of land they (at the time) weren’t sure what to do with.
Nice letter, politely telling me they weren’t remotely interested in me. Signed personally by the Minister for Lands of the day.
Beautiful stiff paper, with coloured pastoral scene across the header, typed ever so carefully by one of the girls in their typing pool.
Haven’t checked on it in a few years, hope it hasn’t been a casualty of a flood or something. It is/was a fair dinkum keepsake.
.1 For so long as the leading “.” stimulates lively debate, I will continue with it.
.2 That’s pretty much it.
Yes.
And Igli isn’t.
And what kind of monstrousity did they cook up with Erdogan? Head loppers and all – was that really necessary? What a clown show. The Russkies shut that shit down quick smart. The Russia desk over at Langley still thinks it’s 1994, evidently. The American empire is kaput, boys.
Sancho Panzersays:
January 14, 2022 at 12:04 am
No probs, then the business builds that into the retail price. I don’t get difficult, I just say no problems and inform them no cash no sale, their choice and depart.
I do however see a time where this will become problematic given the trajectory of financial transactions in my lifetime.
I do hope they then sold the blow-in tourists some spray-painted melted down fishing sinkers for the gold spot.
The RBA statement was pretty definitive. Are you suggesting that they have deliberately misrepresented the underlying legislation?
Yes. This is Australia. Why wouldn’t they do this because they wanted to encourage the use of EFTPOS for example? We have a culture in bureaucracy where black letter law means nothing and “reasonable” interpretation for “the common good” is everything. (Aside from the fact that most legislation is written incredibly badly.)
Every single fiat currency that I am aware of has commenced with “must accept” law. Otherwise accepting it poses a considerable financial risk, without must accept legislation, the fiat currency never gets off the ground.
Whilst Australian currencies former redeemability for gold may have been the solution to acceptance, it may not have been the only original legislative lever. Australia’s fiat currency may have been no different to others, must accept, and that the underlying legislation was probably never extinguished.
The RBA statement possibly simply represents the most recent layers of legislation and “the vibe”, rather than representing an accurate summary of ALL laws relating to Australian currency.
Yes, Doc.
Weight of numbers will do it.
Cash has crashed as a payment mode.
Our housekeeping used to be 100% cash, now is fully EFTPOS (backed up by $40 – $50 in cesh for emergencies in case of Telstra/Bank meltdown).
Easier to track to be honest.
.1 is very embarrassment.
•1 is new hot.
Important difference.
That “Aboriginal “interpreter”” & WA Premier McClownan is some sad shit.
The interpreter did a pretty good job of concealing her “who is this fucking idiot?” look.
That was an absolute pisser. She probably got paid a couple of grand for that, position allocated by the local Aboriginal Inc capo. You have to hand it to them – they milk that white guilt good. It’s a bit different in the city where the rent-an-Elder gets put out to tender when some pseudo-spiritual validation is needed. You need a smoking ceremony, brudda? That’ll be $2k. What, Shirley does it for $400? Okay $400 it is.
If only the Lord Protector of the Natives had a pidgin liaison officer alongside, then maybe his name would not be so hated for restricting Aborigines’ rights to travel, socialize and work.
Oh hang on
I will not be lectured on dot point formatting by this man.
I will not!
Panzer: To be clear on the cost of time delay with card payment;
It’s no problem when things are quiet, say 10 transactions per hour, it makes no difference.
For a busy night in the bar, if the eftpos system is “broken down” & we accept cash only, the register receipts will be (rough numbers) 30% more than if eftpos was used.
It is that simple.
Fats
Legal Tender.
If I recall correctly there are legal limits to how much cash can be used to satisfy a one side of a transaction. I’m reasonably sure that legal tender refers to the legal right for a person to satisfy a transaction using the Australian Dollar for one side of a transaction. It doesn’t mean cash.
Driller:
Umm Driller, how does one physically maintain a roll in a wallet. Blowharding both here and in stores now. How typical.
Yea, I think I still have the same couple of hundred dollar notes that I had in my wallet for the past 6 months unless wifey has stolen it. Haven’t even looked for ages. I used to love using cash, but cant be bothered anymore as I can’t be bothered going to a telling machine and taking it out.
One thing I’d never do though, which my kid was about to do when she left oz to go back to the US. I’d never leave the country or fly interstate without a bunch of cash. I’ve had the nasty experience of an Australian bank knocking back a card transaction because I hadn’t notified the scumbags I was overseas.
In a bushfire situation, a neighbour reminded us to take all our cash before leaving.I think he must have kept a stash somewhere. As for us, we had no money.
Harry and Carl discuss the anti-paedo statue action taken at the BBC headquarters, how men aren’t interested in old women, and the secret origins of wokeness.
https://gettr.com/streaming/po2zcr2075
…any thoughts from the Cat massive on how to commission a russian to hack the Services WA app?
Belgian health minister.
Johannes Leak.
Peter Broelman.
Christian Adams.
Peter Brookes.
Michael Ramirez.
A.F. Branco.
Gary Varvel.
Bob Gorrell.
Matt Margolis.
Steve Kelley.
Tom Stiglich.
Michael Ramirez #2.
Bob Gorrell.
Matt Margolis #2.
Patrick Cross.
Henry Payne.
Chip Bok.
Tom Stiglich.
Ben Garrison.
More likely he was giving you a HeadsUp that the Police and Firies will ransack the place looking for cash.
Queen cuts Andrew adrift: Duke of York is stripped of ALL his military titles and royal patronages, will no longer use HRH in official capacity and is told he will have to face sex assault lawsuit as a ‘private citizen’
What’s wrong with Alan Moir’s cartoons, Tom?
They’re a class above Leak and Broelman.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/alan-moir-20150921-gjrcxr.html
What kind of moron ever took all those titles seriously anyway? I can give him some credit for behaving well in the Falklands war, but that’s got no connection with all the royal tosh.
Am in Corsica.
After much confusing information on the internet my passport was all I was required to show on boarding the ferry and the French were only interested in letting their dog check for drugs.
Unfortunately the last advertised bus left not as advertised at 12.45 but 12.15, and a German tourist on a day trip from Porto-Vecchio and I found ourselves stranded.
We managed to get a taxi eventually ‘no carte bleu!’
First port of call in Porto Vecchio was a pharmacy for my ‘health pass’ which I got without a problem.
Bonifacio is sort of hidden in the midst of limestone cliffs and is very beautiful. The citadel is high above the marina, and if it wasn’t for the horrendous bus schedule I’d day trip back.
Next time.
was hoping to catch a train to Bastia but looks like I’m 69 years too late.
Yes, Mrs Mater has entered the ‘angry’ stage that I experienced about 18 months ago (for which she was quite critical at the time).
As for me, I’m long past that. I’m currently warming my hands from the heat produced as Australia burns, making sure they are supple and ready for action. Many generations have had their lives tipped on their heads, and had their futures fundamentally and permanently altered from what they originally envisaged. We joining a long and distinguished list.
When you go to war, you can only really do your job if you resign yourself to the fact that you’re already dead. You won’t be disappointed, either way. Once you accept that your future will no longer be as you thought, less than two years ago, you can embrace the challenge and excitement of the unknown.
Being mired in the past is going to inhibit your nimbleness in facing the future…and you are going to need that nimbleness to survive. Gird your loins, it’s not going back to what it was. It’s going to be what we now make it.
I’m fine with titles in formal settings but in person it’s the first name only.
Unless it’s a joke.
It’s a woman’s right to have at least three postgraduate degrees before she dates with an intent to get married and have children in wedlock.
Milord, do you think people talking strine, wearing 17th century academic and religious gowns and referring to their sworn enemies as learned friends whilst having a monopoly on one branch of government (being appointed by the elected rubes) is some sort of piss take?
Now is the time to change parties and declare for populism, nationalism and libertarianism.
Trump might be too old…but if the D’rats pick Shillary, he needs to run.
VP?
de Santis
Rand Paul
Tulsi
?
“The Hill’s is pivoting rightward.
Biden is going to get smashed.
Boosters Busted!
“ There is a tectonic shift underway in the medico-scientific establishment: they are starting to walk back boosters.”
Lead article at American Thinker
Dr. Bhakdi explained all this a year ago. What else did we know already?
Masks are a lot more trouble than they are worth.
AZ is saver than mRNA.
Ivermectin and HCQ plus vitamins and maybe one or two other things work.
All the media and Labor fuss about RAT kit availability is just blather.
Case numbers are now almost irrelevant.
QR code tracking Big Brotherdom should now be scrapped.
He!
No doxing please Dot.
Feeltheburn 12.03 : Re the third Pfizer shot. I have seen a positive corvid test recorded and confirmed 21 days after the third Pfizer booster. What sort of moron other than Australian Premiers will mandate that children have a useless vaccine every three weeks. I am also hearing that a post menopausal woman is menstruating again. They cant bury the results of their experimental vaccine it for ever.
Bet Fitzsimmons is chuffed to see himself immortalised by Leak. Probably itching to buy the original.
“Queen cuts Andrew adrift: Duke of York is stripped of ALL his military titles and royal patronages, will no longer use HRH in official capacity and is told he will have to face sex assault lawsuit as a ‘private citizen’”
Firstly, I don’t like Andrew and his ex-missus. Both are vulgar, tawdry, money loving grifters. The two have spent their lives sucking up to unsavoury, rich and wealthy lowlifes who are much cleverer than either of them and and who can smell a mile away the couple’s nauseating weakness for lotsa dosh to fund their extravagant lifestyles such as Swiss Chalets and so on. And this is what Epstein did very, very well with both of the royal grifters. The civil list and the Queen’s largesse was never enough for the grifting Andrew and his ex-missus. His ex-missus has a history of being caught out embroiled in unsavoury financial deals…one was even filmed in a sting. The two of them are loathsome mediocrities and Andrew in particular is someone whose sense of entitlement makes Louis XIV look positively plebeian.
Having said the above, here are my issues with this whole tawdry saga….
1. Firstly, whatever happened to the presumption of innocence? You know…that old fashioned notion that someone is “innocent until proven guilty”? FUCK, I am fed up with living in a society now where men are pre-judged as GUILTY. We’ve seen what happened to Cardinal Pell…lynched before our eyes, we’ve seen what happened to Christian Porter, conveniently lynched based on the lunatic ravings of a mad mental loon (and I make no apologies for my description of the diseased woman) and picked up and spruiked by an unholy cabal of monstrous progressive South Australian women out to score political points against the coalition. Both men destroyed, both men lynched as “guilty, guilty, guilty”. Both men INNOCENT. So why do we deem Andrew “guilty”? Based on the questionable testimony of a woman who’s even more of a grifter than Andrew and Sarah. So why then has Andrew been stripped of his titles? This just buys into the narrative that he’s done something wrong…..like Scumbag Morrison kicking Porter. I didn’t approve of that and I don’t approve of this. Prince Andrew, like him or not, is INNONCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
2. I’m extremely uncomfortable with this singling out, this targeting of Andrew in the Epstein saga.
Andrew is clearly the low hanging fruit. There are much bigger players…..hello Bill Gates, hello Bill Clinton and others….who have somehow been airbrushed from any association with Epstein. Why? Oh I know why…..because the bigwigs are being protected by progressive MSM scum, by progressive politicians, by a progressive swamp……much easier to target catholic priests or mediocre British royals. You see this even in newspapers like The Oz, where they conveniently publish twenty year old pictures of Prince Andrew or Donald Trump with Epstein….but ignore pictures of Clinton with Epstein. The hypocrisy is staggering.
3. As I mentioned above, I don’t trust Virginia Guiffre. She was NO innocent at the time, if Andrew did have carnal dealings with her (and that’s a big and questionable IF), who the fuck cares, she was 17 years old, is most countries she was legally of age. It is highly unlikely that she was some innocent daffodil deflowered by Andrew. And why isn’t she talking about other men she had dealings with whilst being pimped by Epstein and Maxwell? Because Andrew is low hanging fruit…she’s eyes on the dosh, she likes the attention.
4. We can all dislike Andrew…..but isn’t he also entitled to the presumption of innocence?
5. Oh and btw, anyone heard anything of Katherine Keating lately?
Apologies about the early morning rant.
The Australian so called republican movement seems to push forward the most obnoxious twats imaginable. Toff lawyers, germalists and dons who are actually worst than the saxe-coburg tampons.
Cassie of Sydney says:
January 14, 2022 at 7:03 am
And a good rant it was too.
I fully agree with your comments.
I wonder what the Mad Hatter premiers have for us today?
It’s six o’clock, time for tea!
Someone wake us up.
Cassie….
Well put.
Not a rant at all Cassie- good points raised. I was prepared to put up with the Windsors’ antics until they jumped on board with the international left.
Incidentally while I’m still getting ready for work, all this uproar about cash payments must be an Ozzy thing.
In Europe there is not a hint of it, why, sometimes even substantial amounts like the price of a cheaper house are demanded in cash, all in front of a solicitor with contract and all of course.
All is immaterial of course because you have to prove where you got it from when it comes to that kind of amount.
Businesses? Never heard of refusing service if paid by cash, they actually prefer it.
Mater wrote
Well said, indeed. I hope it won’t come to the worst. It doesn’t NEED to, but it is looking increasingly likely that it will, and Australia will become another object lesson in the history books. The only questions are how deep we will slide into the mire, and how long it will take us.
That time may will come if/when a significant number of Australians decide that the costs of chaos and violence are less than the costs of the status quo.
I deal with businesses frequently that prefer cash.
Agree Cassie +++, especially points 2 and 3. Where are the investigative journos naming names? Also where are the girls that got away – meaning those who refused to go back for more – surely there were some? Much more to be told, why are the scandal sheets empty?
I think the important thing to note is that the path to breaking the death grip of the current pollimuppett-pubic disservice-meja establishment is not getting rid of the Windsors (obnoxious as they are). That is a blind alley. I suspect doing so would actually enhance their power.
Don’t be fucking stupid.
Leaving aside the ridiculous aspersion on VOLUNTEERS who are helping out WITHOUT PAY – which might give some idea regarding their attitude to personal gain from fires – working to PRESERVE property, rather than destroy it (or steal it)….. the work load at major fires is immense, and no-one is ever alone with time on their hands in evacuated or burnt property.
We work as crews. The members are identified and WHO was doing WHAT and WHERE, is documented.
You are a demented loon with no better motive than to drag down those who are better men than yourself.
Anyone who thinks that changing the names and symbols of Government are a road to improvement should take a look at Ametica, RIGHT BLOODY NOW!
You want the kind of system that elevated Joe Biden?
I use my phone to pay for just about everything commercial but I’m vigilant about security.
Next to impossible for local second hand and bespoke made goods from people without the same setup.
Plus I think there is legitimate concern about the use of logical and extreme examples being used against ideological targets that was not originally proclaimed.
Omicron doesn’t like me.
My nephew had Covid and I spent lots of time with his family over the time he waited on a result.
My BiL and his family had Covid and I spent most of the day a week ago eating and drinking in close proximity at their house.
I’ll have to hang a chop around my neck.
US Supreme Court grants stay against Biden OSHA vaccine mandates.
Very important decision.
bespoke says:
January 14, 2022 at 7:45 am
???
Once again in simpler language if you please.
Sorry bespoke., I’m sure it sounded just fine and dandy to you.
You want the kind of system that elevated Joe Biden?
No!
He! true.