Open Thread – Mon 10 Jan 2022


The Black Brook, John Singer Sargent, 1908

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 10, 2022 12:25 pm

In other news Mr Andrews announced that Melbourne is to be renamed New Pyongyang under the pandemic emergency law .

Muddy
Muddy
January 10, 2022 12:26 pm

Roger says:
Stories are indeed important.
It’s also important that if they’re presented as non-fiction that they are true.

Therein lies the ‘rub’ (whatever the ‘rub’ is?): Our opponents believe that the truth or facts are whatever works. They are tools rather than outcomes. ‘We’ are competing using a different set of rules, and losing. In small increments – compromises, concessions – we are losing. Does this mean ‘we’ need to reject our moral anchors? No. However, continuing to unsuccessfully compete using the same patterns, arriving at the same outcomes, seems … self-destructive.

How can we make storytelling work better for us?

Pogria
Pogria
January 10, 2022 12:27 pm

Scuttle beats flounce.

bespoke
bespoke
January 10, 2022 12:27 pm

Gabsays:
January 10, 2022 at 12:10 pm
No one misses me

I don’t but that’s just me.

Roger
Roger
January 10, 2022 12:28 pm

Too often lost on some political junkies who think reason and evidence is what persuades people. That only works for a minority of people. For the rest, story telling is much more powerful.

People who value stories over reason and evidence shouldn’t have the vote.

bespoke
bespoke
January 10, 2022 12:29 pm

C.L.says:
January 10, 2022 at 12:24 pm
xxxooxxx

?

Suck up!

Lysander
Lysander
January 10, 2022 12:30 pm

A young child has died with Covid-19 in NSW

Note the use of the word “with” rather than “from”

Baba
Baba
January 10, 2022 12:30 pm

Why is it that the maximum wind gusts of Australian cyclones always seem to be just 5 or 10km/h over the category threshold? It’s uncanny.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
January 10, 2022 12:31 pm

Regarding the United States.
Those migrating from the blue states to the red ones may well bring their blue State mindset and political leanings with them.
Sort of like a real pandemic spreading.
Random capitalisation. It’s for Winners.

Roger
Roger
January 10, 2022 12:34 pm

Regarding the United States.
Those migrating from the blue states to the red ones may well bring their blue State mindset and political leanings with them.

Otoh, new GOP registrations in Florida are up, Democrats down, whole counties turning red.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 10, 2022 12:34 pm

Bob Saget was one of the funniest, dirtiest comedians around.
But he never did specials or hours because it would take away from his squeaky clean public image that he made his living off.

Muddy
Muddy
January 10, 2022 12:35 pm

Perhaps this depends on your definition of ‘stories’ Roger?

Yes, there is fiction and non-fiction, but I mean in a generic sense. (I tried to define the same, but it read as so clunky, I deleted it).

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 10, 2022 12:36 pm

The narrative from the Cathedral changes so quickly.
VIC 34k new cases.
NSW 20k new cases.

Dot
Dot
January 10, 2022 12:36 pm

Yeah bern.

Saget in Entourage and on Joe Rogan was dammed hilarious and/or interesting.

Zipster
January 10, 2022 12:40 pm

Otoh, new GOP registrations in Florida are up, Democrats down, whole counties turning red.

Zukie’s going to have ta pony up more than the lazy half bil he threw at the last erection.

areff
areff
January 10, 2022 12:40 pm

Sancho, yes, aware of the steps to make garlic prawns, but I only wanted two skewers’ worth to go with a nicely marbled T-bone that will go on the barbie tomorrow night. Hardly worth the effort of DIY.

Les Miserable
January 10, 2022 12:40 pm

Re missing comments. Should have waited. Faith restored. Back to base camp.

bespoke
bespoke
January 10, 2022 12:41 pm

Otoh, new GOP registrations in Florida are up, Democrats down, whole counties turning red

Texas has been turning blue for a long time and has a very woke university.

Jorge
Jorge
January 10, 2022 12:42 pm

Is there any ship cruises leaving this wide brown land?”
I thought I could get out by leaving from NZ. Except you can’t get to NZ.

I think the first time anyone heard of the novelist, Richard Flanagan, was when the mad bugger tried to paddle from Tasmania to NZ in a kayak.

He ran into a storm and had to be rescued.

But, hey, check the forecast.

JC
JC
January 10, 2022 12:44 pm

This whole thing is becoming a farce now. I came into contact with three people who are now testing positive so I went to the testing center and they gave me the choice of the PCR or two self tests. I opted for the two selfies. The fucking wait was 4 hours and there was nasty fat lezzo abusing everyone if they were an inch off their step marker. Naturally we had words. A four hour wait is appalling.
Question: why are 90% of all so-called heath professionals ( ie not doctors) so fucking overweight and unattractive? No kidding, they’re almost all fat to the point of being obese.

Roger
Roger
January 10, 2022 12:44 pm

Perhaps this depends on your definition of ‘stories’ Roger?

The use of stories can be an effective rhetorical device, Muddy, I get that.

That’s the problem.

When stories or narratives take precedence over evidence based rational argument & debate, the electorate can easily be conned and democracy subverted.

At the risk of having Godwin’s Law invoked, that’s what Hitler did with/to Germany.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 10, 2022 12:45 pm

Naturally we had words.

Naturally, lol, you magnificent bastard.

Roger
Roger
January 10, 2022 12:47 pm

Texas has been turning blue for a long time and has a very woke university.

Yeah, Austin has always stood out in that regard.

C.L.
C.L.
January 10, 2022 12:47 pm

…there was nasty fat lezzo abusing everyone if they were an inch off their step marker. Naturally we had words.

LOL.

Razey
Razey
January 10, 2022 12:47 pm

JCsays:
January 10, 2022 at 12:44 pm
This whole thing is becoming a farce now. I came into contact with three people who are now testing positive so I went to the testing center and they gave me the choice of the PCR or two self tests. I opted for the two selfies. The fucking wait was 4 hours and there was nasty fat lezzo abusing everyone if they were an inch off their step marker. Naturally we had words. A four hour wait is appalling.
Question: why are 90% of all so-called heath professionals ( ie not doctors) so fucking overweight and unattractive? No kidding, they’re almost all fat to the point of being obese.

As the vax’d are spreading it all over the place, why are they still enforcing jab mandates at all?
Surely a test is the only way now, even then, that is pointless also.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 10, 2022 12:48 pm

Fun fact, if the Chargers & the Raiders tie (and tie after over time) they both progress to the playoffs.

Dot
Dot
January 10, 2022 12:48 pm

Question: why are 90% of all so-called heath professionals ( ie not doctors) so fucking overweight and unattractive? No kidding, they’re almost all fat to the point of being obese.

Maggie De Block could not be reached for comment.

Razey
Razey
January 10, 2022 12:49 pm
Speedbox
January 10, 2022 12:50 pm

Damonsays:
January 10, 2022 at 12:20 pm
I thought I could get out by leaving from NZ. Except you can’t get to NZ.

I had this idea to go to the Cook Islands. Take the family for a week or two for sloth-like idleness. Upon investigation, I found that travel to the Cooks is only permitted via NZ and we needed to firstly wait in NZ for a minimum of 10 days before we could onward travel.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 10, 2022 12:51 pm

Great!
So now I have to have a non existent RAT test to visit Mum in aged care in Vic.
Once again, policy on the run.
The aged care facilities will be scrambling to make protocols to fit the new Stasi directive from Wingnut headquarters.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2022 12:51 pm

Question: why are 90% of all so-called heath professionals ( ie not doctors) so fucking overweight and unattractive? 

My favourite line whenever confronted with one of those types who opens up with, “As a health professional …”
Interrupt with, “So, you’re a nurse, then?”
They fucking hate it because they have been fed this line that it is a “Professional Elf Team and each member of the ‘Care Team’ is of equal importance”.
No.
No they aren’t.
If someone is tweezering tiny pieces of tumour from my frontal lobe and working around nerves and critical brain parts, they are way more important than the person handing over the sponges or mopping up the blood.
Sorry.
But true.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 10, 2022 12:52 pm

must return a negative RAT result before entering

How long does a RAT take?
Are hospitals supposed to provide the RAT or the person wishing to enter the hospital?

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 10, 2022 12:52 pm

Glenn Greenwald has been live tweeting the Joker proceedings.
He’s calling Australia an absolute joke.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2022 12:54 pm

So now I have to have a non existent RAT test to visit Mum in aged care in Vic.

December. RATS are useless, too inaccurate and we will not be relying upon them.
January. Get a RAT test and send in the results.
I recommend getting a hold of some negative test sticks and hanging on to them.

bespoke
bespoke
January 10, 2022 12:54 pm

Fun fact, if the Chargers & the Raiders tie (and tie after over time) they both progress to the playoffs.

You missed an opportunity to tell us you have a relative that has autism or something else unrelated.

calli
calli
January 10, 2022 12:54 pm

Ahahaha! You only want me for garden advice.

*sniff*

In other news, I have let the moths out of the bank account and bought a new bed. Holy cow, but they’re expensive! The last one was 20 years old top of the line Sealy but is on its last gasp. You know you’ve found a good one when you do a test drive in the shop and nearly drift off. Bliss.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 10, 2022 12:55 pm

Damonsays:
January 10, 2022 at 12:20 pm

It is ok. I was asking for an enemy.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2022 12:55 pm

How long does a RAT take?

Fifteen minutes.

rickw
rickw
January 10, 2022 12:56 pm

The judge asks “what more could this man have done?”

That’s a pretty typical comment for anyone attempting to deal with the Australian Idiocracy.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2022 12:57 pm

You missed an opportunity to tell us you have a relative that has autism or something else unrelated.

Does ‘bern do that?
I don’t think he does.

calli
calli
January 10, 2022 12:57 pm

Naturally we had words.

Who won, you old softie.

rickw
rickw
January 10, 2022 12:57 pm

He’s calling Australia an absolute joke.

Accurate.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 10, 2022 12:58 pm

So roll up to emergency with an arterial bleed, take my RAT outside and wait fifteen minutes to find out if I am to bleed out on the pavement or I am allowed to join the queue.

Did Dan of the dead think this up all by himself?

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 10, 2022 12:58 pm

Where is Ron Swanson when we need him.

Cassie of Sydney
January 10, 2022 12:59 pm

“He’s calling Australia an absolute joke.”

He’s not wrong…with a joke of a PM.

Cassie of Sydney
January 10, 2022 1:01 pm

Went to rehab at hospital this morning.

Had mandatory Covid test…negative.

Roger
Roger
January 10, 2022 1:01 pm

He’s calling Australia an absolute joke.

Most countries have arcane border rules and are not above pulling the most arcane ones out should a political non-desirable front up.

In that sense Australia is only a relative joke, and not a very major one at that.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 10, 2022 1:03 pm

How long does a RAT take?

Depends how long the aqueduct is.

Cassie of Sydney
January 10, 2022 1:04 pm

Excellent piece by Heather MacDonald in City Journal on the “insurrection” that never ends….

https://www.city-journal.org/insurrections-and-double-standards

John H.
John H.
January 10, 2022 1:04 pm

Gabsays:
January 10, 2022 at 12:08 pm
John H, I follow you comments a lot. I was wondering, how much copper is required on a daily basis when taking zinc?

Hey Gab.

The ratio appears to be about 8:1 but of course opinions vary. Ideally we should have tests done because there are so many ways we can end up with nutrient imbalances. My concern is so many people gobbling down zinc supplements because people don’t balance the nutrient intake. The problem is when people start taking zinc supplements on a daily basis because a zinc supplement is often 50 mg which is the upper safe limit. If you are not taking a zinc supplement no problem. The problem with taking supplements for trace nutrients is imbalances can occur. Our bodies adjust levels with normal food intake but supplements can overwhelm those adjustments. Zinc and copper deficiencies are rare, I don’t see the need for most people to take those supplements on a daily basis. I am currently taking an occasional 50mg. zinc supplement, perhaps once or twice a week but have taken any for 2 months(just received my iHerb order which included Zinc).

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2022 1:05 pm

The judge asks “what more could this man have done?”

Encouraging, but I wouldn’t read too much into it.
Djoker could still lose, but the judge might be lining Border Farce up for a kicking over their administrative incompetence.

calli
calli
January 10, 2022 1:05 pm

Old and busted: vaxx passes

New Hotness: RATs

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 10, 2022 1:06 pm

The problem with NSW (Sydney) COVID numbers, is that they are not high enough.
Obviously, only a portion of the cases are captured.
But Sydney has 5 mill punters depending on where you call the end of the sprawl.
20k 30k a day isn’t high enough.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2022 1:08 pm

Zinc and copper deficiencies are rare, I don’t see the need for most people to take those supplements on a daily basis. I am currently taking an occasional 50mg. zinc supplement, perhaps once or twice a week

How much is that if I am taking it as Zincalume roofing?

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 10, 2022 1:08 pm

Greenwald is calling the over reaction, the process & the tech failures of the hearing ridiculous.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 10, 2022 1:09 pm

Top ‘o the page to yer !
To be sure, to be sure.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 10, 2022 1:09 pm

Thanks for the live link Razy.
This is one way traffic it appears.
Scumo, get your resignation letter written.

Lysander
Lysander
January 10, 2022 1:10 pm

Is the Djokovich decision due today?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2022 1:10 pm

20k 30k a day isn’t high enough

That is reported cases.
I reckon you could safely triple that to account for the asymptomatic, the mildly ill, and the cooden givafuks.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
January 10, 2022 1:11 pm

My kids you sick whackos.

twostix, you have obviously missed the 1996 Hillary Clinton ruling – It Takes a Village to Raise a Child

Just shows you long they have been after our kids.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2022 1:12 pm

ScoMo better be praying for a Djoker win.
If he loses and appeals, do they keep him locked up in detention for another week?
What happens when all the other exemption stories surface?

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 10, 2022 1:13 pm

What happens when all the other exemption stories surface?

That’s my erection you can see from Victoria.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 10, 2022 1:14 pm

What a great strategy to get the exemptions into the public domain!

Roger
Roger
January 10, 2022 1:14 pm

Excellent piece by Heather MacDonald in City Journal on the “insurrection” that never ends…

The clash of competing narratives.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 10, 2022 1:15 pm

I can see it now.
Hospital Admin HAG: “I sorry. No more admissions today. We have run out of RATs.”

bespoke
bespoke
January 10, 2022 1:15 pm

I don’t think he does.

Neither do I.

Pogria
Pogria
January 10, 2022 1:16 pm

How much is that if I am taking it as Zincalume roofing?

Depends which end it goes in.

Roger
Roger
January 10, 2022 1:16 pm

If he loses and appeals, do they keep him locked up in detention for another week?

I believe that threat is on the table. Stupidity doubles down.

Lysander
Lysander
January 10, 2022 1:18 pm

What’s all this about Albo planning to unionize the ADF? (Or is Brendan O’Connor going off script again?)

Speedbox
January 10, 2022 1:19 pm

Lysandersays:
January 10, 2022 at 12:30 pm
A young child has died with Covid-19 in NSW
Note the use of the word “with” rather than “from”

That 3 y/o child had a dreadful genetic disease (Niemann-Pick) and the only outcome was death (almost certainly before his 5th birthday). Very sad for the parents and other family.

Apparently (allegedly?) covid was introduced to his home by a visiting health worker who had arrived to conduct other routine assistance for the child.

Baba
Baba
January 10, 2022 1:19 pm

JC

I went to the testing center and they gave me the choice of the PCR or two self tests. I opted for the two selfies. The fucking wait was 4 hours

If you didn’t have Omigod! before, you do now.

Gab
Gab
January 10, 2022 1:20 pm

HI John H

Thank you.

I take Zn ~ 3 or 4 times per week and then may drop down to 0 for a couple of weeks.

Had a can of John West smoked oysters (from Morocco) last week. Think Cu intake should be good.

Baba
Baba
January 10, 2022 1:20 pm

https://tinyurl.com/3srx36zp

And win the case against the Djoker.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 10, 2022 1:22 pm

That 3 y/o child had a dreadful genetic disease (Niemann-Pick) and the only outcome was death (almost certainly before his 5th birthday).

The parents were saints dealing with that illness for 3 years.
Gillian Triggs would have dumped the kid because of the inconvenience.

Roger
Roger
January 10, 2022 1:22 pm

What happens when all the other exemption stories surface?

Why…he’ll have to announce an inquiry into why “the rules” weren’t followed.

A Departmental head falling on his sword should suffice to keep the press and people mollified.

Then on to the next disaster.

Gab
Gab
January 10, 2022 1:22 pm

callisays:
January 10, 2022 at 12:54 pm
Ahahaha! You only want me for garden advice.

Nay, not so!

Speaking of which, I have a small patch under the letterbox that gets sun from around 11 am to about 6 pm (normal time not DST). Faces west so what can you recommend for this area? Either ground cover or a small shrub? What are you suggestions?

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 10, 2022 1:30 pm

Muddy

Re a narrative, look at CEW Bean. He told a pretty horrible story in a way that inspired admiration for the First AIF.

There are many Australian stories that can be told in that manner (volunteer fire fighting, surf rescue, former convicts making a success in a new, very alien, country, opening a wide brown land for agriculture and animal husbandry, small industries achieving success against the odds, lots more). These narratives were once familiar to every Australian child, now replaced with angst over “climate change”, the little reef that can’t, the glories of a culture unchanged for tens of thousands of years, eeevvvvil whities, and too much more.

Each of these narratives has an element (sometimes only a small one in the leftist ones) of truth, but ours are being buried. Simple example. there was a multi-episode TV drama on the First AIF (ANZACS) made in the 1980s. I expected it to be re-run in the centenary years, but never saw mention of it. The stories are there, and are interesting. The problem is suppression by the Cathedral of anything contrary to the “progressive” narrative. I’m not sure how to overcome that.

Delta A
Delta A
January 10, 2022 1:30 pm

Speedboxsays:
January 10, 2022 at 1:19 pm

Thanks for that rational explanation of the poor little child’s death, Speedbox. This is how The Australian is reporting it:

Covid kills young child on NSW’s deadliest day.

Speedbox
January 10, 2022 1:31 pm

Yes, Bern. I have not been in their circumstances, nor have I ever personally known anyone who has, but the sheer determination, not to mention love, to make the child’s life as comfortable and ‘normal’ as possible is simply awesome.

The child had no viable future and a very early death was 100% inevitable. But those few years were just enough time to see the parent’s love and admiration for the child’s fight grow exponentially. Then life is snuffed out.

If there is a God and Heaven, I hope they all go there.

Cassie of Sydney
January 10, 2022 1:33 pm

“If there is a God and Heaven, I hope they all go there.”

I believe there is.

Pogria
Pogria
January 10, 2022 1:33 pm

Another sad loss.

Dobie Gillis has died.

rickw
rickw
January 10, 2022 1:34 pm

So if a negative test is good enough for hospitals, why is a neg test acceptable for work?

Please stop trying to inject logic into The Idiocracy! Don’t question The Stupid!

Bons
Bons
January 10, 2022 1:35 pm

20k 30k a day isn’t high enough.
Because smart folks with a sniffle decline to hand their lives over to the Government.
Lets see now, go to bed, drink lots of toddies, or stand in queues for hours, have plod banging on your door to check on you, followed by more standing in queues for more tests.
Decisions.

Cassie of Sydney
January 10, 2022 1:35 pm

“Covid kills young child on NSW’s deadliest day.”

Indeed DA…I read the headline at the Oz website and thought…hmm…we’re not being told the full story and all the MSM do is sensationalise the death to add to their Covid porn narrative. Quite frankly it’s disgusting.

Thanks to Speedbox for filling us in. Sad

Vicki
Vicki
January 10, 2022 1:37 pm

This is Djokovic’s submission:

https://www.scribd.com/document/551955841/Novak-Djokovic-s-submissions-to-Federal-Court#from_embed

Believe he has been ordered to be released in order to attend a video conference with Court.

srr
srr
January 10, 2022 1:37 pm

Tim Gill
@Timinator88
·
Jan 2
?Remember when Donald Trump got locked out of his Twitter account until he deleted this video?

We know what to do…

Make it known.
https://gettr.com/post/pleifvcb44

Razey
Razey
January 10, 2022 1:37 pm

Wife is refusing Maximum Leaders booster.

She will lose her job.

Lysander
Lysander
January 10, 2022 1:37 pm

Thanks for letting me know Speedbox… seems like a terrible disease (I see, average life expectancy is only 18 months)… such a shame.

Although, also shameful the meeja don’t report this.

Pogria
Pogria
January 10, 2022 1:40 pm

Dear God, I hadn’t seen the comment on the child that had died. Sweet one, as Cassie said, there is a Heaven, all your best friends will be there. Maybe not straight away, but time passes differently in Heaven.
The foul MSM news really have to be laid waste and salted so they never rise again.

bespoke
bespoke
January 10, 2022 1:41 pm

Although, also shameful the meeja don’t report this.

Id be shocked if they did.

Lysander
Lysander
January 10, 2022 1:43 pm

Some guy was on the “news” last night saying most people that go to hospital now (for other things) “will catch covid there.” I guess that’s good for the numbers…

Vicki
Vicki
January 10, 2022 1:44 pm

The Australian government’s submission in the matter of Djokovic’s appeal:

https://www.scribd.com/document/551955960/Australian-Government-s-submission-to-Federal-Court-re-Djokovic#from_embed

Roger
Roger
January 10, 2022 1:45 pm

The problem is suppression by the Cathedral of anything contrary to the “progressive” narrative. I’m not sure how to overcome that.

The progressive narrative will eventually collapse under the weight of its own absurdities.

What we can do in the meantime is expose those absurdities through rational analysis and limit the damage it does, especially to young people who are immersed in it through public education. Not all of them buy into it, by any means.

rickw
rickw
January 10, 2022 1:47 pm

Wife is refusing Maximum Leaders booster.

She will lose her job.

Australia is a disgusting shithole.

Speedbox
January 10, 2022 1:50 pm

Bons says:
January 10, 2022 at 1:35 pm

On a lighter note, my eldest boy rang yesterday and announced that he thought he had the coof. Apparently, 1-2 people at his work have tested positive and are isolating and by the description of his symptoms, he is virtually certain to have it as well.

He asked if I had any RAT tests or, did I know of any PCR test site that wasn’t chocka block as he couldn’t face the idea of waiting for hours. (No to both enquiries). Effectively told him what you said.

He is a fit, late 20’s male who has no history of underlying disease/incapacity. Told him he will feel better in a couple of days but to keep away from his girlfriend. If condition deteriorates significantly, call an ambulance.

John H.
John H.
January 10, 2022 1:55 pm

Rogersays:
January 10, 2022 at 1:45 pm
The problem is suppression by the Cathedral of anything contrary to the “progressive” narrative. I’m not sure how to overcome that.

The progressive narrative will eventually collapse under the weight of its own absurdities.

What we can do in the meantime is expose those absurdities through rational analysis and limit the damage it does, especially to young people who are immersed in it through public education. Not all of them buy into it, by any means.

I think it is already collapsing. I previously mentioned here how many comedians are speaking out against cancel culture and political correctness. South Park has some wonderful fun with that.

There is also the matter of the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Their absurdities make for good clickbait so we perceive an over presentation of how prevalent their madness is. I hear more about woke from Sky News than anywhere else.

I hope I’m right so that I can enjoy schadenfreude as all those corporations doing the woke thing are punished.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 10, 2022 2:09 pm

Australia is a disgusting shithole.
Has been for a long time. Gun laws, private aviation laws, draconian enforcement of speed limits, etc, etc, etc.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 10, 2022 2:09 pm

Whoa.
In response to a question about Dan of the dead’s new hospital entry rules.
The hospital response was “… we allow all to enter. That has never changed, nor will it.”

Cassie of Sydney
January 10, 2022 2:09 pm

“The progressive narrative will eventually collapse under the weight of its own absurdities.

What we can do in the meantime is expose those absurdities through rational analysis and limit the damage it does, especially to young people who are immersed in it through public education. Not all of them buy into it, by any means.”

This is also what James Lindsay says. I watched a very good Youtube discussion yesterday between Benjamin Boyce and James Lindsay. Lindsay has been red-pilled, black-pilled and is now white-pilled. Lindsay voted for Trump in November 2020….he admires Ron De Santis…he’s clearly a Covid sceptic….yet, as he says, he’s no right-winger, he’s no conservative.

Lindsay is cautiously optimistic that we can fight and overcome these progressive absurdities. Why? Because the progressive left and the nonsense they spruik is always constructed on flimsy crap and the ideologues on the progressive left have to spend a lot of time managing this crap. It’s easy to demolish this crap…it’s no different to a house of cards…..yet we need people to speak up to demolish the flimsy crap. A classic example of this is critical race theory and the transgender bullshit….both all built on lies and all very easy to pick apart and destroy but we have to be willing to step us and destroy it.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
January 10, 2022 2:10 pm

Scotty ‘Kneejerk’ Morrison.

I can hear that in Trump’s voice.

srr
srr
January 10, 2022 2:10 pm

jaswright
@jaswright
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Jan 7
This was another removed video from #tiktok. #catherineaustinfitts is #amazing. Listen to what she predicts is coming to us in the #near #future.
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John of Mel
John of Mel
January 10, 2022 2:12 pm

I don’t see how this Covid madness in Australia might be abated .
Wife was talking to her friend yesterday who is of Eastern European descent. She was adamant about the “vaccines” and how irresponsible “anti-vaxxers” are and how they should be treated differently, and how we would have “corpses on the streets” if not for the “vaccine”. Hopeless.
Another example – deal site ozbargain. Presumably, it represents a wide cross-section of Australian society, mostly non-political. I went there today, because my daughter asked to help find a good deal on tickets to GC. The comments under the deal are quite revealing. You will easily find my quickly down-voted attempts at counter-narrative. There is also another guy, but he got in early and his posts are not even visible due to down-votes (unless you register).

Disclaimer: I have nothing to do with this web-site, just found it depressing to read what “normies” still think.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 10, 2022 2:12 pm

Kneejerk

No balls Morrison

mem
mem
January 10, 2022 2:15 pm

As reported on ABC not so live coverage of the Djokovic hearing quoting Government’s lawyer Mr Tran:
“But Mr Tran did briefly touch on the concept of risk to the public, noting that the relevant statute was amended a few years ago.

“One doesn’t even have to be a risk, one might present a risk,” he said.”

What is this. A terrorist trial?

srr
srr
January 10, 2022 2:16 pm

This Jab Horror Story features a Sydney Suburb –

TommyRobinson1
@TommyRobinson1
·
Jan 7
This is becoming a common occurrence.
https://gettr.com/post/pmtk5p0618
Posted on 12:03 PM · Jan 7th, 2022

WolfmanOz
January 10, 2022 2:17 pm

I pissed myself laughing at this article by Rob Barclay in The Spectator.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2022/01/morrison-this-is-how-the-liberals-win-the-next-election/

For too long we have endured the creeping takeover of our country, and the trashing of our society by the hostile Neo-Marxists – many ensconced in cosy taxpayer-funded sinecures. Their demands have become ever more outrageous and extreme as they ride rough-shod over the 85 per cent of middle Australians.

But Scott Morrison can still be a winner if he finally decides to take a stand. Here’s what the Prime Minister should tell the bruised and battered quiet Australians whose votes he needs to remain in power:

‘My fellow Australians,

As we are all painfully aware, there has been an increasing disconnect between all governments, federal and state, and the electorate. If I win the next election, I promise to make my government more responsive and to tackle the ever-rising costs of all governments, and the ever-decreasing value that they offer to the people.

I want to apologise to you all. Our recent rushed climate change targets were just not realistic, so they will be modified. We already do far more than any other country to curb our globally minuscule emissions.

I intend to make Australian manufacturing viable again by cutting subsidies to all wind and solar projects, and using the funds saved to establish far cheaper and more reliable high-tech coal and nuclear generators. Export companies will be actively assisted to find new global markets.

I will establish a new Anti-Regulation Agency with mandatory monthly progress oversights to eliminate all the unnecessary green and red tape impediments, and put pressure on the states to reduce the exorbitant costs associated with starting and running any project or business.

I will fast-track the buyback of all critical national assets sold to overseas interests, including the Port of Darwin, significant businesses, and prime agricultural land.

I will undertake to cut the overall funds allocation to all federal departments and agencies by 20 per cent – thereby preventing the usual default use of part-timers and consultants. I will ask the states to do the same, on pain of a reduced GST, which itself will be revamped to reflect each state’s actual contribution.

I will ask all the myriads of government agencies, including the ABC, to show cause why they should not be streamlined or disbanded.

New dams will be quickly approved – there have been no new dams built since 1970, although the population has doubled.

I will implement Bradbury’s 1924 dream, and tunnel NSW/QLD coastal water into the interior to fund a vast new national food bowl – run by Australian companies

I will take defence procurement out the hands of the bureaucracy, to ensure that sensible and timely decisions are made by recognised expert groups.

I will ban the future use of lockdowns, curfews, masks, social distancing, and mandatory vaccinations. As in any epidemic, the seriously ill will be hospitalised, without having to affect the lives and welfare of others.

I promise hefty federal fines and jail terms for those who disrupt the lawful workings of any company, business, farmer, individual, or association.

I will introduce federal oversight to eliminate the brain-washing of our school children, and make illegal the ‘cancelling’ of individuals for merely expressing contrary opinions. Existing libel laws will be strengthened.

I will cut back the current overly-generous dole, and set a three-month time limit on entitlements, unless medically exempt. No one should be able to batten permanently on the government teat from the cradle to the grave. This measure should release a vast new workforce to help our beleaguered farmers, restaurateurs, and small business owners – obviating the need for the current contentious and highly disruptive mass immigration.

I will disband the Appeals Tribunal which routinely fails to approve the deportation of repeat hardened criminals. A new body will be established that reflects both reality and voter concerns.

I will disband the Fair Work Commission. Australia doesn’t need such a huge bureaucratic opaque body to set a basic wage and simple working conditions.

All future migrants will have to pass a basic oral and written English test (including all relatives). I’d be surprised if anybody would object to being proficient in the language of their new country.

Only biological women will be able to engage in women’s sports, or use any traditional women’s facilities.

We are one people. No group, including Aboriginal Australians, will be accorded any special status. A long-overdue forensic audit of all the myriad Aboriginal agencies will release funds to establish trade-focused boarding schools at strategic sites; this will help to fill the ongoing critical trades void.

I will make it illegal to tear down or deface any statues or monuments from the past. Graffiti and gluing yourself to roads, pavements, and other such disruptive acts will also be banned.

I look with astonishment at those who are hostile to our country, and our western lifestyle. My government will facilitate their migration to countries that don’t have all those ‘white supremacy’ trappings like clothes, phones, cars, electricity, coal, gas, oil, supermarkets, red and white meat, or government handouts.

To those who claim that they are ‘invaders’ – it follows that all their assets have been illegally acquired. We will assist them to sell up, gifting all the proceeds to Aborigine charities. We will help them to re-locate back to the land of their forebears.

To those who hate their white skins. I am unable to help with research into permanent skin pigmentation, but I can help them migrate to a country more to their liking.

We are still part of the British Commonwealth. We honour the Queen and our forebears who have created the freedoms, the benefits, the superior lifestyle, and the rule of law that we all continue to enjoy.

My government will focus on the Australian peoples’ traditional values and concerns – home, family, church, free enterprise, and a fair go for all.

Naturally, the Greens, the Neo- Marxists, the Labour party, and the unionists will all start screaming at many of these proposals. Let them.

It is my job to govern for the majority.

I make this solemn pledge that I will do everything I can to restore ownership of the country back to those middle Australians who have created all the wealth, and paid most of the taxes.’

– ScoMo.

Zero chance of Scumo doing any of this . . . although the irony is that the thrust of the article is right.

Razey
Razey
January 10, 2022 2:18 pm

Eyriesays:
January 10, 2022 at 2:09 pm
Australia is a disgusting shithole.
Has been for a long time. Gun laws, private aviation laws, draconian enforcement of speed limits, etc, etc, etc.

Yep. I see no reason to stay in Australia at all. Losing her job might encourage her to say FU Australia and get motivated to leave. I have been ready to leave the day I came back 17 years ago.

Diogenes
Diogenes
January 10, 2022 2:21 pm

That 3 y/o child had a dreadful genetic disease (Niemann-Pick) and the only outcome was death (almost certainly before his 5th birthday). Very sad for the parents and other family.

Doesn’t stop parents fighting like hell to keep them comfortable and alive. Our no 2 son was only expected to live until he was 5, we lost him when he was 11 and at the time was the oldest survivor with his condition. We nearly lost him to chicken pox when he was 8.

Lysander
Lysander
January 10, 2022 2:24 pm

Lindsay is cautiously optimistic that we can fight and overcome these progressive absurdities.

The Left will eat itself.

I am comforted in this fact by Keith Windschuttle’s book on Pell where he demonstrated that many Left academics (and their ABC) promoted “intergenerational love” (aka “peddos”) and how it has come back to bite them. And whether it be “free love,” free drugs, climate change or whatever… the Left will come undone. For example, the “Free love” movement (whilst disgustingly resulting in many abortions) has resulted in date rape culture and men and women now getting upset about “getting hit on.” Cogent Cats know the rest…

srr
srr
January 10, 2022 2:26 pm

“mem says:
January 10, 2022 at 2:15 pm

As reported on ABC not so live coverage of the Djokovic hearing quoting Government’s lawyer Mr Tran:
“But Mr Tran did briefly touch on the concept of risk to the public, noting that the relevant statute was amended a few years ago.

“One doesn’t even have to be a risk, one might present a risk,” he said.”

What is this. A terrorist trial?
***
Yes, the World Leaders’ local dogs bodies are becoming terrified of the Tumbrils, Lamp Posts & Piano Wire that ‘Cats’ of “Australia’s Leading Libertarian & Centre Right Blog”, have been talking about for years and lately getting others thinking seriously about.

So very much loose talk by so many very nice, ‘anonymous’ people, that just so happened to ‘justify’ Governments treating their citizens like terrorists, locking them up and taking away all their human rights.

John of Mel
John of Mel
January 10, 2022 2:26 pm

Wife is refusing Maximum Leaders booster.

She will lose her job.

We are close to the same point. Her booster was due in December.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 10, 2022 2:28 pm

Australia is a disgusting shithole.

and overflowing.

Dot
Dot
January 10, 2022 2:30 pm

The Left will eat itself.

Communism ran out of puff…100 million victims later!

Razey
Razey
January 10, 2022 2:31 pm

John of Melsays:
January 10, 2022 at 2:26 pm
Wife is refusing Maximum Leaders booster.

She will lose her job.

We are close to the same point. Her booster was due in December.

My kids friends mother already lost hers.

The government are evil cunts.

Lysander
Lysander
January 10, 2022 2:36 pm

Whatever happened to Numbers?

Did he get deported?

calli
calli
January 10, 2022 2:40 pm

Gab, if it’s in full sun west facing, and no frost, I’d go for a groundcover succulent like Lampranthus. Flower colour – lots of choice from red through yellow and purple. Tough as, and will tolerate the odd foot or postie bike wheel.

If you want a little shrub that with compliment and require next to no water as well, Crassula ovata “Gollum” is a nice choice – older forms look almost like bonsai-ed trees. Again, if a bit breaks off, just plant it in another spot and you have a second plant.

Succulents are all the rage these days, but you wouldn’t put anything too valuable on the verge – they are highly pinchable. People are really going for xeriscapes and they look great, but must have good drainage.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 10, 2022 2:44 pm

Whatever happened to Numbers?

Did he get deported?

Finally read what’s been written about the Vietnam war, with access to the North Vietnamese archives, realized how completely he had fallen for the Party line, and flounced.

Lysander
Lysander
January 10, 2022 2:45 pm

Finally read what’s been written about the Vietnam war, with access to the North Vietnamese archives, realized how completely he had fallen for the Party line, and flounced.

😛

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 10, 2022 2:46 pm

Communism ran out of puff…100 million victims later!
The mind virus is still around and infecting victims.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 10, 2022 2:48 pm

According to 7 news One in three Victorians getting tested for COVID is returning a positive result

I am gobsmacked.

Gab
Gab
January 10, 2022 2:48 pm

Awesome, Calli. Thank you

John H.
John H.
January 10, 2022 2:49 pm
C.L.
C.L.
January 10, 2022 2:50 pm

Incredible footage:

Foothill Division Officers displayed heroism and quick action by saving the life of a pilot who made an emergency landing on the railroad tracks at San Fernando Rd. and Osborne St., just before an oncoming train collided with the aircraft.

https://twitter.com/LAPDHQ/status/1480363436311670784

Razey
Razey
January 10, 2022 2:50 pm

‘You can’t keep making endless antibodies!’ Dr Clive Dix urges end to mass vaccinations

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1547278/Covid-news-cases-Clive-Dix-endemic-pandemic-booster-latest-updates-vn

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2022 2:52 pm

Razeysays:

January 10, 2022 at 1:37 pm

Wife is refusing Maximum Leaders booster.

She will lose her job.

I thought you were resigned to getting the shot to travel to Japan?

Winston Smith
January 10, 2022 2:52 pm

132andBush:

Major retailers including Coles and Woolworths are reporting staff shortages of up to 35 per cent at their distribution centres due to state-imposed Covid-19 isolation requirements forcing the nation into a deepening supply chain crisis for essential goods including food and pharmaceuticals.
We are being governed by idiots and time servers.

“Vaccination is our way out of this”

It will be amusing on one level, to see what our Glorious Leaders do when the supply chain finally goes tits up and people get really pissed off.
Will they call out the Armed Forces to restock the shelves with pictures of food?

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 10, 2022 2:55 pm

One in three Victorians getting tested for COVID is returning a positive result

Been running that way in NSW for days. It’s everywhere. Time to declare defeat and bring the troops home, then count the cost.

Winston Smith
January 10, 2022 2:55 pm

Tom:

Ted Cruz, ripped to shreds this week by Tucker Carlson, is as slippery and untrustworthy as Lindsay Graham, a Never Trumper who cheered when the Dems stole the 2020 election as it removed the GOP’s need to differentiate itself from the DNC and restored the lucrative Washington corruption gravy train.

This has been an amazing demonstration of how just one slip up can utterly derail a progression to the Presidency. It reminds me of the “Yeehaaa!” moment some idiot made a few years ago and the media tore him to shreds.

rickw
rickw
January 10, 2022 2:56 pm

Will they call out the Armed Forces to restock the shelves with pictures of food?

The focus of the armed forces might be on stopping them from being dragged onto the streets and lamp posted.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2022 2:58 pm

One of the key holes in the Commonwealth case against Djokovic is the alleged contraction of the virus in December, which supposedly gives six months leeway before vaccination is required.
The Commonwealth is saying that only applies to Australian citizens, not visitors.
It is going to be popcorn time when Djoker’s lawyers ask to see the science on that one.

Razey
Razey
January 10, 2022 2:59 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
January 10, 2022 at 2:52 pm
Razeysays:

January 10, 2022 at 1:37 pm

Wife is refusing Maximum Leaders booster.

She will lose her job.

I thought you were resigned to getting the shot to travel to Japan?

At the moment you dont need a shot to leave Australia. Im worried they will close this loophole shortly.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 10, 2022 2:59 pm

Will they call out the Armed Forces to restock the shelves with pictures of food?

We’ve seen how Ostrayans behave when there is a shortage of shitting paper.
The edible shortages. Major riots.
e.g. McDonalds closes indefinitely due to plastic shortages.

C.L.
C.L.
January 10, 2022 3:01 pm

I don’t understand what Ted Cruz is trying to prove even being in politics.
The man is seriously brilliant and should be on a superior, if not THE superior, court.

Speedbox
January 10, 2022 3:03 pm

Winston Smith says:
January 10, 2022 at 2:52 pm
132andBush:

It will be amusing on one level, to see what our Glorious Leaders do when the supply chain finally goes tits up and people get really pissed off. Will they call out the Armed Forces to restock the shelves with pictures of food?

Maybe not pictures of food but I won’t be surprised if the Army were drafted in to drive the heavy delivery trucks from the distribution centres to the supermarkets. The (food) supply chain cannot be allowed to fail and if the normal truckies are off sick then a controllable alternative must be found – even if only as a stopgap.

C.L.
C.L.
January 10, 2022 3:05 pm

Consider this: it never occurred to any of the ‘experts’ that requiring endless testing and isolating for a cold that everyone has anyway would mean there’d be nobody left to work.

Didn’t occur to them. Not one.

This country can’t even build a levee that works. The one in Maryborough failed first time.

But nuclear submarine.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 10, 2022 3:06 pm

Maybe not pictures of food but I won’t be surprised if the Army were drafted in to drive the heavy delivery trucks from the distribution centres to the supermarkets

I’d be surprised if there were anywhere near enough Army heavy vehicle drivers to make a difference.

John of Mel
John of Mel
January 10, 2022 3:07 pm

One of the key holes in the Commonwealth case against Djokovic is the alleged contraction of the virus in December, which supposedly gives six months leeway before vaccination is required.
The Commonwealth is saying that only applies to Australian citizens, not visitors.

Well, the Commonwealth needs to talk to the states about this, especially Victoria. I was told to get “vaccinated” as soon as I feel better, when I had Wu-Flu in December.

rickw
rickw
January 10, 2022 3:07 pm

“One doesn’t even have to be a risk, one might present a risk,” he said.”

After two years of this shit the majority of Australians meet both these criteria.

Please deport us!

Lysander
Lysander
January 10, 2022 3:10 pm

Yes, Australia has to build the army trucks to deliver the food first.

Should only take a few years.

Dot
Dot
January 10, 2022 3:10 pm

This has been an amazing demonstration of how just one slip up can utterly derail a progression to the Presidency. It reminds me of the “Yeehaaa!” moment some idiot made a few years ago and the media tore him to shreds.

I think Cruz was wrong, but the right can have its own political correctness too.

Lysander
Lysander
January 10, 2022 3:10 pm

…but then, I guess the food can’t be made because of coof and can’t be transported through coof regions.

rickw
rickw
January 10, 2022 3:11 pm

I was told to get “vaccinated” as soon as I feel better, when I had Wu-Flu in December.

Having COVID-19 was removed as an exemption for not being vaccinated when the updated pandemic rules were issued on December 23. Previously there had a 6 month exemption.

Victoriastan (making every other ‘stan look good).

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 10, 2022 3:14 pm

Viktoristan – You are a very ugly state.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
January 10, 2022 3:15 pm

Lysander,
Are you sure that was the correct use of cogent?
Asking for a pedantic friend.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 10, 2022 3:17 pm

Struth. Get in here and explain supply chain failure to us.

Lysander
Lysander
January 10, 2022 3:17 pm

For West Aussie Cats… The Worst Australian Newspaper gave Mark McClown an A- on his 2021 report card. McClown and 7West (who own everything in WA) arse so far up each other its not funny. Here’s my report card:

– No workers allowed in to pick fruit resulting in millions of tonnes of dead fruit;
– Ambulance ramping up from 2,000hrs per month (under Barnett for which McClown demanded he be sacked) to 6,000hrs;
-Police response times from 2 minutes to 15 minutes;
-No assistance for farmers in transporting grain
– Memorial on logging
-State Net Debt (despite iron ore being ~$140per tonne and more GST than ever to peak at $38,000,000,000 (again, McClown demanded Barnett be sacked for debt being $32Bn);
-1000’s of businesses out of work
– 2,000 nurses resigning for not wanting jab
– Elective surgeries cancelled all the time;
– Regular Code reds at hospitals;
– Reform of the upper house so the whole State is one big electorate (meaning Perth’s 2 million will likely elect 36 of the 37 representatives);
– Homelessness at all time highs;

There’s much more, but I’d say that’s an F

Lysander
Lysander
January 10, 2022 3:19 pm

Lysander,
Are you sure that was the correct use of cogent?
Asking for a pedantic friend.

As in… Cats can’t be cogent? Or, as in, improper use of adjective?

Winston Smith
January 10, 2022 3:21 pm

Katzenjammer:

Trump should endorse the Democrat’s contender for president in 2024.
That should confuse the ratbags.

First LOL! of the day!
Followed by a thoughtful pause…
Then an impolite snicker.

Frank
Frank
January 10, 2022 3:21 pm

Gabsays:
January 10, 2022 at 12:10 pm
No one misses me

Who?

Only kidding, I would miss you.

John of Mel
John of Mel
January 10, 2022 3:22 pm

Yes, Australia has to build the army trucks to deliver the food first.

How about army trains? Especially the fast ones.

Lysander
Lysander
January 10, 2022 3:23 pm

How about army trains? Especially the fast ones.

Hmmm army trains Vs army trucks… I feel like we’ve been here… 😛

Ellen of Tasmania
Ellen of Tasmania
January 10, 2022 3:25 pm

Gabsays:
January 10, 2022 at 12:10 pm
No one misses me

I certainly miss you, Gab. You are definitely a cat-asset.

John of Mel
John of Mel
January 10, 2022 3:26 pm

There’s much more, but I’d say that’s an F

Lysander, it sounds more like and F U.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
January 10, 2022 3:28 pm

calli says:
January 10, 2022 at 12:54 pm

You know you’ve found a good one when you do a test drive in the shop and nearly drift off. Bliss.

I reckon they deliberately keep the oxygen levels low to help make the sale, Calli! Aftt picking a new mattress recently, it didn’t feel as comfortable as it did in the store, but I got used to it.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 10, 2022 3:31 pm

No one misses me

Hello Miss Gab.

John of Mel
John of Mel
January 10, 2022 3:31 pm

Having COVID-19 was removed as an exemption for not being vaccinated when the updated pandemic rules were issued on December 23. Previously there had a 6 month exemption.

Victoriastan (making every other ‘stan look good).

That’s one idea for VIC number plates. How about this one:
Victoria – even “the science” is better here.

Lysander
Lysander
January 10, 2022 3:33 pm

So..I’ve heard a rumour from a Yankee friend that there’s a push on in the US to make January 6 a Federal Public Holiday. Details are sketchy but something like “Freedom Day” to celebrate the overthrown insurrection instituted by Trump….

I don’t think he’s making it up (because I don’t think you could make this shit up!)

calli
calli
January 10, 2022 3:34 pm

Nelson, I reckon the shop floor ones are soft because they get such a workout from people lying on them. Limbered up.

John of Mel
John of Mel
January 10, 2022 3:34 pm

Hmmm army trains Vs army trucks… I feel like we’ve been here…

Yeah, but not with the fast ones.
🙂

Gab
Gab
January 10, 2022 3:35 pm

LOL

You guys are lovely, but really I just meant I have no expectations at all on being missed or not being missed.

calli
calli
January 10, 2022 3:36 pm

How’s things on the job front, Gab? Are the dills still going to try to make you jab or have they relented?

Runnybum
Runnybum
January 10, 2022 3:38 pm

Hey choo choo man, get your are into gear & start moving food, you can get biggles to help with his A340 too ?

Gab
Gab
January 10, 2022 3:41 pm

Calli, still the same story. I have until 22 Jan. In the meantime, have been looking for other jobs, so prayers are very much appreciated.

Thanks for asking, Calli.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 10, 2022 3:41 pm

I don’t understand what Ted Cruz is trying to prove even being in politics.
The man is seriously brilliant and should be on a superior, if not THE superior, court.

Brilliant yet thick as two planks.

Sometimes they slip and let a light shine on what’s inside their inner self. In Cruz’s case he’s not as intelligent as he thinks he is. No one who had read widely would’ve said that about 1/6 UNLESS they also pointed out the presence of Ray Epps and John Sullivan. Cruz seems not to know about them. Seriously John Sullivan had been widely IDed the by 1/7.

bespoke
bespoke
January 10, 2022 3:41 pm

Chang to Woodstock cans Bundy it’ll make ya a better man.

Lysander
Lysander
January 10, 2022 3:44 pm

Hey choo choo man, get your are into gear & start moving food, you can get biggles to help with his A340 too ?

Is that first class or cattle class? Asking for a bear… 😛

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 10, 2022 3:44 pm

The Worst Australian Newspaper gave Mark McClown an A- on his 2021 report card.

What did Adolf get? B+?

Indolent
Indolent
January 10, 2022 3:45 pm
incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 10, 2022 3:46 pm

Trying to get your bearings Lysander?

bespoke
bespoke
January 10, 2022 3:48 pm

Where is Stimps Rasputin?

Lysander
Lysander
January 10, 2022 3:49 pm

Haha actually IR, it’s my first day back at work and I’m determined to achieve nothing today.

And in my random readings today, I have discovered that Afghanistan is the world’s bigger producer of meth amphetamine (supported by the Taliban!)… you learn something new every day!

Lysander
Lysander
January 10, 2022 3:53 pm

Haha actually IR, it’s my first day back at work and I’m determined to achieve nothing today.

Just think, while I am at work, some lucky bastard is somewhere having a heart attack…

Winston Smith
January 10, 2022 3:53 pm

Vicki:

Does this help?
It contains link to the video.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 10, 2022 3:53 pm

I have discovered that Afghanistan is the world’s bigger producer of meth amphetamine

Why do you think the US is funding so many private contractors in the country?
CIA has to pay for it somehow.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
January 10, 2022 3:54 pm

Baba, link below of Cyclon/Hurricane/Typhoon classification:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_cyclone_scales

Australia is the only one that uses Sustained winds for 10 min in conjunction with max wind gust. The others keep it simple with 10 min sustained and the US only bases it on 1 min average of sustained wind speeds.

In Yasi I was living in Townsville, 150km south of the eye and the airport mechanical aerometer recorded in excess of 160km/h gusts at the height of the storm and sustained wins above 120km/h for about 10 hours meaning we were borderline Cat2/3. The noise was amazing as we lost power on dusk. There was a definite difference in the background winds and the gusts which would sometimes hit violently. You hear every creak and groan in the structure on a night crossing.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
January 10, 2022 3:54 pm

Damn, Cyclone not cyclon

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 10, 2022 3:55 pm

Ted Cruz will have to do a Game of Thrones shame walk around Mar-a-Lago to be considered for anything.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 10, 2022 3:56 pm

Chargers v Raiders now into overtime.
The fix might just be in.

twostix
twostix
January 10, 2022 3:59 pm

I should post in the right forum I guess….

——

Unvaccinated Covid Control Group checking in.

I don’t like posting this because it makes it sound like this is all much more serious that it is, just by posting it. But there’s little info and much lies about all this for unvaccinated people and there’s a little bit of concern when it arrives, so to counter-balance the media hysteria I’ll post.

“Covid” has gone through two sides of my family last week. Whatever is going around, it is very contagious and flew right through my whole family in a week thanks to all the christmas / new year mingling.

Eleven of us are unvaccinated, seven adults and four children. Four are vaccinated – all adults.

It’s a weird cold / light flu. Some get a headache for a day, some were in bed for a few days with aches, sore throat and mild fever, upset stomachs in a couple. Fatigue for a few days after. I personally had a mild fever for a day and that was it, no bed needed. There was never a moment of concern during the illness for anyone, all chests were always clear, breathing was completely unaffected.

We’re all still alive, even the person who takes immune suppressing drugs. I think in total four ended up in bed for a few days, nothing serious, the fatigue demanded sleep for them. A bit of a weird one, but regular panadol easily cut through the ‘worst’ of the sore throat and aches and pains.

The two very youngest got absolutely no symptoms at all. One vaccinated person – a girlfriend outside the family ended up in bed for a few days.

A common thing to hear from vaxxies and unvaccinated who got a light touch of it is “It felt like the day before you get come down with a cold” – just general malaise then a good sleep and you wake up good. You may feel the malaise come back a few days later then go again. But generally feel fine.

So there’s that. Eleven unvaccinated people, now with covid immunity. Not sure about the vaxxies and whatever the hell happens to them and immunity but hopefully that’s the same. And not a hospital bed taken up by anyone.

3/10 on the flu scale.

Lysander
Lysander
January 10, 2022 3:59 pm

Bern, sorry but unlike most here, I am not the fountain of all knowledge 😛

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 10, 2022 4:01 pm

Oh behave, Lysander.

Lysander
Lysander
January 10, 2022 4:01 pm

(“fountain” of all knowledge being a sad attempt at irony)

Frank
Frank
January 10, 2022 4:05 pm

twostix says:
January 10, 2022 at 3:59 pm

It will be interesting to see what happens once the rest of country is in the same situation and the time for mandated booster booster shots rolls around.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2022 4:05 pm

At the moment you dont need a shot to leave Australia. Im worried they will close this loophole shortly.

Sounds like you better get move on.
It would be a shame if Mrs Razey got the flick prematurely from her job for no jab, then you find you have to get the jab anyway to leave Australia/ enter Japan / travel on an airline.

Lysander
Lysander
January 10, 2022 4:06 pm

Anyone heard of this Lying Flat movement that’s appearing in China and other parts of the world?

In relation to a shitload of people that have quit their jobs/lost their jobs in the wake of Covid and now commit to making just enough money to barely live by… but, just enough and aren’t interested in home ownership and material things…

Sounds like a bit of a, well, reset?

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 10, 2022 4:08 pm

This is why governments are so desperate to not have a prior infection as a jab exemption.
If proof of infection gets you out of it, a large proportion of the population would actively seek it out.
As someone who is sub 50 & in pretty ok health, I’d be going to the pub every night until I got it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2022 4:10 pm

bespokesays:

January 10, 2022 at 3:48 pm

Where is Stimps Rasputin?

He was a strong defender of Gunner when he was going through his Grudge Nazi phase and they both left about the same time.
Hmmmm.
I don’t recall any flouncing though.

Frank
Frank
January 10, 2022 4:13 pm

This is why governments are so desperate to not have a prior infection as a jab exemption.

Only one word for that, evil. Most likely insisted upon to make life easier for the numpties that administer things, don’t want any complicating factors to spoil the austere elegance of the plan.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2022 4:15 pm

Gabsays:
January 10, 2022 at 12:10 pm
No one misses me

Is this a flounce announcement?
Or a flounce bounceback?

calli
calli
January 10, 2022 4:18 pm

Thanks, Stix. Your experience is exactly the same as my family’s. Two adults vaxxed and boosted rough around the gills with severe headaches and joint pain. One twelve y o vaxxed with runny nose. Unvaxxed 10 y o high temps and severe vomiting two nights running.

Panadol and rest. A three day wonder.

Score 4/10

This is what we’ve brutalised and impoverished our country for.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 10, 2022 4:26 pm

Raiders win with zero time left.
With games like that, there’s little wonder that in 2021, 75 of the top 100 viewed shows on US TV were NFL games.

Old bloke
Old bloke
January 10, 2022 4:26 pm

Angus Black says:
January 10, 2022 at 9:43 am

Got a bit odd, the open thread, this morning.

I can only assume you’ve all got the same rubbish weather I’m experiencing, this morning.

Nah, the problem is VIL (vaxxine induced lunacy).

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 10, 2022 4:26 pm

Ted Cruz will have to do a Game of Thrones shame walk around Mar-a-Lago to be considered for anything.

Won’t work. About 85% of registered Republican voters back Trump and 97.3% of them are now going to give the same treatment to Cruz that Pence is getting.

Watching the Ted Cruz clip on Tucker Carlson last night, I thought of the song Roll Over Beethoven.

Cruz had said at a Senate hearing the day before that January 6 was a “violent terrorist attack on the Capitol where we saw the men and women of law enforcement … risk their lives to defend the men and women who serve in this Capitol.”

Apparently, a year later, the senator still is unaware of Ashli Babbitt. Or maybe he just does not care.

Certainly he is unaware of how out of touch he is with his party’s voters.

“Pence’s favorability rating, which was 78% at the time of the insurrection, slumped immediately to 40% after he certified the election results. By the end of 2021, the rating had declined even further to 28%.

Turds smell better.

Only 28% of Republicans trust government (76% trust Trump) (Don Surber, 7 Jan)

Memo to righties: if you insult your base they will quietly and firmly walk away from you.

Speedbox
January 10, 2022 4:28 pm

But why enforce the jab(s) to get out of Australia? Not really much point as every country worth visiting has vaccination requirements for inbound non-citizens. Most require PCR negative confirmation prior to boarding and many require PCR/RAT within a couple of days of arrival. If the Australian Government prohibited departure by the filthy unvacc’d it would be a completely redundant gesture.

Alternatively, those who are unvacc’d (if allowed in) are mandated to isolate for 10 days and be trackable.

By the way, the USA recognises prior covid infection (within 90 days).

rickw
rickw
January 10, 2022 4:28 pm

Dead Children

Tragic and Disgusting all at once….

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2022 4:29 pm

Nah, the problem is VIL (vaxxine induced lunacy).

Hmmm.
I think a fair chunk of that lunacy was apparent prior to vaccines.

John of Mel
John of Mel
January 10, 2022 4:30 pm

Speedbox, again, you’re making the same mistake many here make – trying to apply logic and reason to AUS government dictates.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2022 4:31 pm

Speedboxsays:

January 10, 2022 at 4:28 pm

But why enforce the jab(s) to get out of Australia?

Dunno.
Razey thinks it might be a thing.
I agree with you.
Destination countries and/or airlines are more likely to be a stumbling block.

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