Open Thread – Weekend 12 March 2022


The Jägerzeile in Vienna, Rudolf von Alt, 1844

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JD
JD
March 12, 2022 12:01 am

Ist 🙂
Democracy.. JAzz style.. Amazing Grace
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN09R2ryJ7o

Rabz
March 12, 2022 12:18 am
Rabz
March 12, 2022 12:34 am

Uggee Pap! 🙂

Winston Smith
March 12, 2022 1:03 am

Wait!
What?
I was stuck on the Old Fredde…

Winston Smith
March 12, 2022 1:20 am

OK.
You want it that way?
Winston music.

Winston Smith
March 12, 2022 1:26 am

OK.
You want it that way?
Winston music.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 12, 2022 2:02 am

Big day yesterday, and another coming up today.

Greatly enjoyed the tub-thumpery going on towards the end of the OOT.

Could have done with a bit more pettifoggery, but you can’t have everything.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
March 12, 2022 2:06 am

Top ten.

– – – – –
Also, ABC declares that the answer to failures of Big Government is Even Bigger Government.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-10/northern-nsw-tells-prime-minister-they-needed-rescuing-help/100896628
They even found 3 people and a Premier who agree with them on this.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
March 12, 2022 3:58 am
Tom
Tom
March 12, 2022 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
March 12, 2022 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
March 12, 2022 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
March 12, 2022 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
March 12, 2022 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
March 12, 2022 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
March 12, 2022 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
March 12, 2022 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
March 12, 2022 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
March 12, 2022 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
March 12, 2022 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
March 12, 2022 4:12 am
Siltstone
Siltstone
March 12, 2022 5:54 am

Thanks Tom

rosie
rosie
March 12, 2022 5:56 am

Dictionary? Yeah for spellcheck.

rosie
rosie
March 12, 2022 6:00 am

At least McDonald’s is continuing to pay it’s 62,000 Russian employees.
Russia considering removing trademark protection

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 12, 2022 6:23 am

Tucker is going to be a dog with a bone on these US labs in Ukraine.
Especially the US built one in Odessa in 2010.

I can’t believe how this story has evolved.
When Bluey posted a few links talking about it a couple of weeks ago, I was yawn, whatever.
Then it turns into something more with the US government saying no we have no labs Ukraine in response to Tuckers questions.
Within days Nuland admits to it when questioned by Rubio.
Then the US says yes we have a range of labs for reasons xyz but these were old labs we were funding the upkeep.
Now we find out the US built a bio lab in Odessa in 2010.
How long before this entire operation & network is exposed.

Anchor What
Anchor What
March 12, 2022 6:32 am

The left has won and elections mean nothing any more. The half terms in the USA will be either gamed (again) or deferred, since there’s no way the left can win fairly.
Once all the checks and balances are gone or diluted (such as the media and rule of law) there’s no hope remaining.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
March 12, 2022 6:39 am

The entire system will collapse under it’s own weight eventually…
Like all communist regimes, the food will run out, the economy will be destroyed and everyone will starve.
The only difference is that this time, it will be done on a global scale, which means there will be nowhere to run to.

We have hard times ahead, the recent war has exposed the flaws of the globalist policies and will have flow on effects for years to come.

Miltonf
Miltonf
March 12, 2022 6:45 am

I think the finish for me with the US was the SCOTUS refusal to even hear complaints about blatant cheating.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 12, 2022 7:14 am

The White House’s game-playing denials of bio labs in Ukraine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn_HZ3Ta-5w

Glenn Greenwald doing what journos are meant to do.
Asking questions.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 12, 2022 7:14 am

From the old thread, before the Lenworth King turns up and starts his angry and disingenuous bullshit afresh-
?———————

Struth says:
March 12, 2022 at 12:53 am

At least I don’t shit in my hands and clap, then try to hide my mendacious deflections and glass jaw behind a wall of personal slanders.

Remember Struth, the DeAtH CaMp at Toowoomba was all your own idea.
Ditto the idea that Dan Andrews was BuIlDiNg one in Victoria on Day One of the covid crisis. Or was it that he AnNoUnCeD one? I don’t know, because you can’t keep your own story straight.

Be a man and own it, rather than a little bitch constantly trying to pretend you always meant something else.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 12, 2022 7:17 am

I’m surprised the People Pundit & Barnes haven’t discussed the Arizona emergency voting legislation.

Keith Forwheels
Keith Forwheels
March 12, 2022 7:27 am

took me about 6 months to piece the puzzle together that it finally clicked that it was almost certainly long covid.

Zipster, thank you, I’ve been following Gez Medinger and came across Bruce on his You-Tube, as you say, I’ve been trying to piece it together, but I’m about 100 miles behind where you are and wouldn’t have ever caught up as I lack your understanding of the bio-chemistry.

Will be interesting to see how I go in finding any Drs happy to consider the information. Have been going for about 2 months now without much luck, I’m getting to be mates with the lady at S&N who keeps taking more bloods… I will keep you posted.

Between you and Flying Duk & others this blog at its best has the ability to change peoples lives, it is an amazing resource. Thank you again Zipster, and also Dover for keeping this community together. Herding Cats is not easy, Dover does am amazing job in keeping the balance just right.

Beertruk
March 12, 2022 7:41 am

Top 50ish.

Tom
Tom
March 12, 2022 7:49 am

Still bucketing down in north Florida where play in the $US20 million Players Championship has been suspended. The tournament may be heading for a rare Monday finish.

srr
srr
March 12, 2022 7:54 am

rosie says:
March 12, 2022 at 3:36 am
missed this John Mearsheimer interview regarding the Ukraine published in the New Yorker, linked for anyone else in same boat

🙂

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 12, 2022 8:02 am

Russell on the Ukraine labs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCr7zkPAm1Y

Russell: Ukranions ?
Lol, he’s good.

srr
srr
March 12, 2022 8:06 am

feelthebern says:
March 12, 2022 at 6:23 am
Tucker is going to be a dog with a bone on these US labs in Ukraine.
Especially the US built one in Odessa in 2010.

I can’t believe how this story has evolved.
When Bluey posted a few links talking about it a couple of weeks ago, I was yawn, whatever.
Then it turns into something more with the US government saying no we have no labs Ukraine in response to Tuckers questions.
Within days Nuland admits to it when questioned by Rubio.
Then the US says yes we have a range of labs for reasons xyz but these were old labs we were funding the upkeep.
Now we find out the US built a bio lab in Odessa in 2010.
*How long before this entire operation & network is exposed.*

*It was, some time ago.*
Goes back to when Obama was new in politics & scored himself the major job of trotting over there to get things rolling.

I posted some details on it a while back; maybe The Conservative Tree House, maybe something more obscure, can’t recall off the top of my, ‘the pain killers haven’t kicked in yet’, head.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 12, 2022 8:09 am

No you didn’t SRR.
Bluey did.

Cassie of Sydney
March 12, 2022 8:19 am

Vikki Campion has written a piece for the Daily Terror today called “It’s time for governments to stop talking and take action The floods that have caused such devastation are yet again another sign that authorities are so caught up appeasing interest groups that nothing ever gets done”

You don’t say Vikki. Perhaps you could ask your partner to reflect on his own appeasing, particularly he and his party’s appeasement late last year when they capitulated to the ultimate interest group…..the climate cult of net zero emissions. Your husband and his party should have walked. Net zero emissions, no dams, no burning off, are all pseudo religious tenets that emanate from the same climate cult. What sayeth Vikki?

Miltonf
Miltonf
March 12, 2022 8:22 am

Vicky’s job is to provide red meat for the punters.

Miltonf
Miltonf
March 12, 2022 8:23 am

Try and make them think it’s still the party of Doug Anthony

Rabz
March 12, 2022 8:34 am

Today’s Leak – the drooling cretin behind Albansleazey – Butler?

Given they’re likely to be “leading” this country’s next feral government, can anyone name a single feral parliamentary ALP imbecile apart from those noxious slags KKK, Wendy Pong and Blabbersack?

No googlerying, thanks.

calli
calli
March 12, 2022 8:38 am

Lol, he’s good.

And clever. That’s a first class brain behind the scruffy exterior.

The most endearing thing (apart from his comical eviscerations) is his sign-off, “that’s just what I think, what do you think?”.

Rare as hen’s teeth.

duncanm
duncanm
March 12, 2022 8:38 am

There are still very plausible reasons why these labs exist without the purpose of developing bioweapons.
(slide 12 mentions the labs in the FSU)

https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/2018-11/documents/decon_presentation_021.pdf

http://americanstudies.am/us-funded-biolaboratories-in-armenia-what-worries-moscow-and-beijing/

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2022 8:38 am

Aha… I’m Dot, knowing me, knowing you, dear struth

The bet is still on. Either myself dying (any cause) or 5% population reduction (any cause) of Australia by February, 2026.

In either case, or both, the loser pays 10 k AUD worth of middling quality of pre 1943 Ram’s head Australian shillings.

Are you man enough to take this bet?

Razey
Razey
March 12, 2022 8:40 am

Plasmamortarsays:
March 12, 2022 at 6:39 am
The entire system will collapse under it’s own weight eventually…
Like all communist regimes, the food will run out, the economy will be destroyed and everyone will starve.
The only difference is that this time, it will be done on a global scale, which means there will be nowhere to run to.

Yuri Bezmenov said that if the US fucks it up, there will be nowhere left to defect to.

srr
srr
March 12, 2022 8:40 am

feelthebern says:
March 12, 2022 at 8:09 am
No you didn’t SRR.
Bluey did.

Why are you being an arse?

I don’t know what Bluey posted when (even when I’m not in & out of hospitals & doctors I don’t ‘live’ here), but you mentioned Bluey’s post –

“[…]When Bluey posted a few links talking about it a couple of weeks ago, I was yawn, whatever.
Then it turns into something more […]

Now we find out the US built a bio lab in Odessa in 2010.
How long before this entire operation & network is exposed.”

– & I replied that it’s been exposed to before 2010, when Obama was was fresh to politics and was given the job of moving things along over there.

I don’t know if Bluey’s links included Pre-2010 but you said that’s what we’ve “now” found out, written in a way that implied that it wasn’t in the links of Bluey’s that you yawned over or those that stopped at 2010.

If you have Bluey’s links that include the early Obama involvement, please, repost them because as I mentioned, I can’t recall where found them, but it wasn’t here because I posted them here.

Bugger it, why am I asking you, you’re obviously bitching in bad faith.

Bluey, if you’re about, would you please repost those links that I’ve missed?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 12, 2022 8:41 am

Typical.

Biden admin offering $1 mil for groups to delegitimize Israel (11 Mar)

He and his bunch seem to say something and do the exact opposite time and time again. Watch the hands, always watch the hands.

duncanm
duncanm
March 12, 2022 8:41 am

Rabzsays:
March 12, 2022 at 8:34 am
Today’s Leak – the drooling cretin behind Albansleazey – Butler?

David Feeney, shadow defence.

Cassie of Sydney
March 12, 2022 8:41 am

Yesterday Megyn Kelly uploaded an excellent interview with one of my favourite writers/commentators, Rod Dreher. I would urge everyone to watch it.

The Truth About Russia and Ukraine: Narratives, Moralizing, and Humanitarian Crises, with Rod Dreher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGxY-dualWU&t=2789s

Kelly’s discussion with Dreher is the first half and last for approx 46 minutes. I didn’t watch the second half with another commentator.

Dreher is an Orthodox Christian but he’s no Putin apologist and he condemns the invasion however he rightly says that we’re being lied to by a biased MSM and we’re being led into catastrophic war by western elites. And it won’t be the children of the elites who are sent to war. And this cancelling of Russians is simply another facet of cancel culture. It’s hysteria and xenophobia on steroids. Dreher, like all of us, wants cool heads to prevail…the problem is that there aren’t any cool heads among western leaders…just look at the motley collection of western leaders…the Sniffer, who doesn’t know whether he’s Arthur or Martha, Scumbag Morrison, the billy bunter of politics, Blob Johnson, who’s revelling in this war because it’s taken the heat away from the fact that whilst forcing other Britons to lock down, he and his hypocritical green wife were partying at Number 10, and Mini Macron, pretending to be another little Napoleon and who tried to lecture Putin about war.

Dreher also says why nobody in the west are asking the hard questions about why Putin has invaded….US interference, Ukrainian corruption and so on….now whether you agree with what Putin’s does (and I don’t)….these questions must be asked.

Well worth a listen.

duncanm
duncanm
March 12, 2022 8:42 am

maybe?

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2022 8:43 am

Vikki Campion has written a piece for the Daily Terror today called “It’s time for governments to stop talking and take action The floods that have caused such devastation are yet again another sign that authorities are so caught up appeasing interest groups that nothing ever gets done”

NSW could build three dams with high capacity, hydroelectric power and flood mitigation almost immediately…at reasonable cost levels.

Devil Grip Gorge
Murray Gorge
Needles Gap

They won’t because since after Liberal Barry O Farrell was elected in…2011, they have done nothing.

They are cowards with no vision, nor will they get out of the way for private enterprise.

The Liberals and Nationals need to be put on the B Ark like the ALP and Greens.

A Bradfield lite scheme for the NSW Northern Rivers and SE Queensland is too much, net zero by 2050 however is being pumped by fat head Morrison PM, but damn the costs with that.

Cassie of Sydney
March 12, 2022 8:46 am

The NSW government, beholden to green extremists and containing some green extremists such as Slime Kean, won’t even raise the height of Warragamba’s walls.

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 12, 2022 8:46 am

Also, ABC declares that the answer to failures of Big Government is Even Bigger Government.

Its a feature, not a bug.

rosie
rosie
March 12, 2022 8:47 am

I was reading on twitter Lismore council diverted federal funding for flood mitigation to roads.

Razey
Razey
March 12, 2022 8:47 am

Victor Davis Hanson has also stated a number of times that the democracy the US has (had?) is historically unusual. Most of our human history is littered with despots and tyrannical overlords.
Seems we are heading back to the those days very fast.

Rabz
March 12, 2022 8:48 am

Vicky’s job is to provide red meat for the punters.

She’s not very good at it, then. This year net zero idiocy is yet another example of how our beloved politicians have completely lost their collective marbles. The concept is so ridiculous it defies description.

Steyn got it right when he described western political leaders as sounding even more insane than the street corner idiots clad in sandwich boards screeching about the end of the world.

I could tolerate such irredeemable idiocy if they weren’t doing anyone any harm. But, unfortunately for us, that isn’t the case. Their staggering stupidity will drag us all down with them, unless we put a stop to it – which is about as unlikely as a Russian cat getting upset about being banned from a Cat Show.

Lengthy public floggings, hangings and then the glorious implementation of HOP Time. For their own good, of course.

Rabz
March 12, 2022 8:50 am

Feeney, shadow defence

Thanks, Dunc. Never heard of him.

rosie
rosie
March 12, 2022 8:51 am

And the whining about being rescued by neighbours instead of ses/army.
What do people want, a permanent army barracks at Lismore or how many permanent SES should there be ?
I thought SES were volunteers.

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 12, 2022 8:52 am

The left has won and elections mean nothing any more. The half terms in the USA will be either gamed (again) or deferred, since there’s no way the left can win fairly.
Once all the checks and balances are gone or diluted (such as the media and rule of law) there’s no hope remaining.

Yep, I came to that conclusion when Biden ‘won’.

Look at our situation here – in SA our incumbent ‘Liberal’ Government is about to be put to the sword, at least partly due to their heavy handedness with COVID, and its the same at the Federal level – there is no conservative/liberatarian option amongst the major parties. You get Labor Lite or Labor.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2022 8:52 am

Liberty & Democracy Party again?

The Liberal Party is a giant hoax.

They are not liberal in any way and they are no longer conservative.

The thing is, the party liked being the Liberal Democrats, the punters like the Liberty & Democracy name.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 12, 2022 8:54 am

Vicky’s job is to provide red meat for the punters.

Tofu labeled as Red Meat.

calli
calli
March 12, 2022 8:54 am

Steyn got it right when he described western political leaders as sounding even more insane than the street corner idiots clad in sandwich boards screeching about the end of the world.

I wondered where they had all disappeared to. They got seats in parliament.

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 12, 2022 8:55 am

And the whining about being rescued by neighbours instead of ses/army.
What do people want, a permanent army barracks at Lismore or how many permanent SES should there be ?

What to people always want? They want the government to rescue them from their poor life choices. In this case, they want floods outlawed, or failing that, they want the mud washed out and the damage fixed, courtesy of the taxpayer, as often as necessary.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 12, 2022 8:55 am

Feeney, shadow defence
Thanks, Dunc. Never heard of him.

Isn’t he the Victorian bozo who forgot an investment property when filling out his Parliamentary Register? As you do. Trougher.

duncanm
duncanm
March 12, 2022 8:55 am

Lismore’s problem — it doesn’t have enough (predicted) water supply past 2024.. but always floods.

At least these locals are thinking with their heads. Our ABC couldn’t find any of them to talk to.
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/lismore-transformed-into-warzone-as-political-bickering-gridlocked-bureaucracy-leaves-floodravaged-town-repeating-history/news-story/7bed16b645e2d2992608692d2b946450

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2022 8:56 am

How long until Sergei, Dmitri and little Oleg are banned from our TV screens?

As long as they don’t ban my Russian Roulette club.

Cassie of Sydney
March 12, 2022 8:56 am

“The Liberal Party is a giant hoax.”

Yep.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2022 8:58 am

If only there was a way to mitigate flood waters and collect that water for later use during dry periods.

I’m stumped!

duncanm
duncanm
March 12, 2022 8:59 am

And the whining about being rescued by neighbours instead of ses/army.

its depressing — but I have hope this is just the usual ABC ‘random sample’ and not a reflection on the wider community. Compare with the response in Mullimbimby.

Have a look at the sky news article I linked above — a much more level-headed discussion about what needs doing.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 12, 2022 9:00 am

Ed Casesays:
March 11, 2022 at 10:09 pm
“first nations peoples”.

An utterly absurd concept, shamelessly ripped off from peoples far more noble and useful that exist in North America.

Best known for torturing prisoners to death and endless warfare.
If you reckon that’s noble, feel free to head off over there.

Dickless

This reminded me, you “forgot” to answer my earlier question. Here it is again, to remind you:

Dick Ed

so they workaround it by criticising domestic violence in Aboriginal Communities without considering the background.

Perhaps you could enlighten us on the “background” that justifies DV rates many times higher in indigenous communities than in non-indigenous communities?

rosie
rosie
March 12, 2022 9:01 am

It’s a pickle dot.
I agree duk, living on a notorious flood plan seems like a choice people could take personal responsibility for.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 12, 2022 9:02 am

Feeney, shadow defence

Thanks, Dunc. Never heard of him.

Powerbroker in the Gillard Government.
His wife is running for a Senate position in Victoria, the Senator under the pump died Thursday night.

rosie
rosie
March 12, 2022 9:03 am

Someone told me that Toowoomba did extensive mitigation works after their last major event.
Is that the reason they didn’t have a problem this time, or was it just not as bad?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 12, 2022 9:04 am

The Global Times, the CCP’s English language mouthpiece tells it:

The Russian Defense Ministry released on Thursday documents it acquired from the personnel of a bio lab in Ukraine. The documents expose the US and its NATO allies’ research on biological weapons in Ukraine, including research on spreading the highly infectious bird flu virus through migratory birds and on pathogens such as bacteria and viruses that can be transmitted from bats to humans. Russia said the documents show that a large number of serum samples belonging to the Slavs have been transferred and that the experiments in Ukraine are similar to what Japan’s Unit 731 did in WWII. The documents were uploaded online by Russia for free download.

And asks the BIG QUESTION nobody else will:

What exactly is the connection between the Fort Detrick lab and the COVID-19 pandemic?

Useful idiots everywhere: “nom, nom, nom…

Razey
Razey
March 12, 2022 9:04 am

Indolentsays:
March 12, 2022 at 9:01 am
Confidential Pfizer Docs. reveal the Covid-19 Vaccine accumulates in the Ovaries; & now Official UK Data shows cases of Ovarian Cancer are at an all time high

The long term consequences of the gene therapies are just getting warmed up.

calli
calli
March 12, 2022 9:04 am

Years ago, I visited Paducah, Kentucky. It’s on the confluence of the Ohio and Mississippi rivers. A sensible location for the riverboat trade, but always subject to appalling floods.

They built flood barriers along the town side of the river which are closed once the water reaches a pre-set level. Normally, the land on the river side of the barriers is used as parkland/open space. The barriers themselves are decorated with some great murals, many depicting the devastation of previous floods just to remind townsfolk and visitors of why they are there.

I can’t see why the same can’t be done for Lismore.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 12, 2022 9:04 am

Cassie of Sydneysays:
March 12, 2022 at 8:46 am
The NSW government, beholden to green extremists and containing some green extremists such as Slime Kean, won’t even raise the height of Warragamba’s walls.

Yet, not many years ago, the green as grass ACT Labor government “increased the height” of the Cotter Dam by building a completely new dam a few hundred metres downstream. This increased the capacity of the Cotter impoundment by around 20 times.

Indolent
Indolent
March 12, 2022 9:05 am

EU parliament votes to sanction Hungary and Poland in midst of Ukraine war — despite both countries welcoming 1.6 million refugees in a fortnight

In January 2021, the EU introduced the Rule of Law Conditionality Mechanism which provided a tool whereby the Commission could refuse to release EU funds to national governments who they considered to be in breach of the common rule of law.

In essence, it means that if conservative countries dissent against the liberal European mainstream on how to govern — for example, Hungary’s passing of legislation which prohibited LGBT+ propaganda to be taught in schools or rejects mass immigration — the offending country could be refused access to European funds they are entitled to.

Humanitarians to the core.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 12, 2022 9:05 am

Via Instapundit this morning.
I can’t figure if this is satire or if we are making excellent progress up the side of Mt Peak Stupid:
https://www.dezeen.com/2022/03/03/vulva-spaceship-design-aims-to-counter-prevalence-of-phalluses/

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 12, 2022 9:06 am

Perhaps you could enlighten us on the “background” that justifies DV rates many times higher in indigenous communities than in non-indigenous communities?

Not banned yet, SpongeBob?
While you’re still here, what do you consider an acceptable rate of DV in aboriginal communities?

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 12, 2022 9:08 am

rosiesays:
March 12, 2022 at 8:51 am
And the whining about being rescued by neighbours instead of ses/army.
What do people want, a permanent army barracks at Lismore or how many permanent SES should there be ?
I thought SES were volunteers.

I suspect that there might be an Army Reserve Depot in Lismore, but those are local volunteers, as are the SES volunteers. The whole push is for larger government in the form of regular soldiers brought in from elsewhere and “professional” SES, who sit around for a few years waiting for the next flood.

rosie
rosie
March 12, 2022 9:09 am

Good old ‘environmental flows’.

calli
calli
March 12, 2022 9:10 am

Sorry. That’s the Tennessee River, not Mississippi.

Cairo, Illinois is Ohio/Mississippi. A bit further downstream.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 12, 2022 9:10 am

Dot

The thing is, the party liked being the Liberal Democrats, the punters like the Liberty & Democracy name.

If they have to change, then go with the punters’ choice. LDP needs the votes.

Razey
Razey
March 12, 2022 9:13 am

VDH: We need to stand up and speak out and not retreat into the monastery of the mind, give up and ‘check out’, or it will get worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAgk0Lmyjxw

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 12, 2022 9:13 am

LDP, the Party of GloboHomo
That’s really all you need to know.

Makka
Makka
March 12, 2022 9:14 am

I can’t see why the same can’t be done for Lismore.

It’s far easier (and more important) to direct expenditure to maaaates in road re-surfacing and such so that the kickbacks can flow. Unless OPM can be redistributed easily among the trough dwelling parasites, it all becomes too hard. Intentionally. OPM must stay within tried and tested channels of corruption.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 12, 2022 9:16 am

I can’t see why the same can’t be done for Lismore.
Take a look on Google Earth. Might be easier to dig a canal which puts the river to the west of town and airport.
You can use the excavated soil to build a large levy on the eastern bank.
Alternatively, there is plenty of non flooding high ground around. Move the town. I can see why early settlers would want to be by the river but enough is enough.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 12, 2022 9:17 am

War crime allegations must be tested in the right forum Noel Pearson

11:00PM March 11, 2022

The trial of Victoria Cross medallist Ben Roberts-Smith for war crimes should result in a judgment for defamation in his favour in ­respect of the claims made by ­respondent media that he committed murder during his war service in Afghanistan.

Melbourne barrister Matt Collins got it right in a Sydney Morning Herald commentary last June that the Roberts-Smith saga was a war crimes trial masquerading as defamation proceedings.

This case has been troubling from the beginning. That an Australian soldier who has served the country in overseas combat, not least one decorated with the highest possible recognition that could be conferred on behalf of the ­nation, has been subjected to a public destruction in the way he is, is profoundly disturbing.

It is true Roberts-Smith initiated this defamation action, but it has turned out to be an unfair war crimes trial.

My argument is simple. The evidence adduced in the defamation proceedings so far confirms what the public already knows or assumed: Ben Roberts-Smith committed acts of killing in war. There is no dispute Roberts-Smith committed killings in Afghanistan. Indeed, it is for killing that he earned his Victoria Cross. But killing in wartime service is lawful and is not murder.

The respondent media claimed Roberts-Smith committed killings in Afghanistan amounting to war crimes. They have presented witnesses, including former special forces soldiers who served with Roberts-Smith, who support the allegations against him. But this testimony only confirms the truth of killing. It does not and cannot confirm the truth of murder.

In January 2019, Roberts-Smith brought proceedings for defamation against Fairfax Media, a subsidiary of Nine Entertainment, for a series of reports that made serious claims against Roberts-Smith, including the grave claim of having committed war crimes in Afghanistan. The claims also related to alleged domestic ­violence in Australia.

There is no doubt the reports were defamatory of his reputation. The question in defamation proceedings is whether the reports were legally justified. The media respondents are basing their ­defence against Roberts-Smith’s case on the ground of truth.

But this is an impossible defence. And it exposes the absurdity of legal proceedings seeking to ­establish the truth of criminal wrongdoing in a civil court. For starters, how could the truth of murder – a crime which requires guilt to be established beyond reasonable doubt – be proven in a civil court, which adjudges truth in defamation proceedings on the balance of probabilities? Essentially, Roberts-Smith is at risk of being found guilty of murder on the balance of probabilities.

Whatever truth emerges from the evidence being presented to Justice Anthony Besanko in the Federal Court, plainly, it cannot be the truth of murder.

Therefore the evidence presented to the court seeking to ­establish Roberts-Smith’s war crimes is redundant.

It can never amount to truth because Roberts-Smith was an Australian soldier serving in lawful combat. Witnesses, including his fellow soldiers, the investigating media and we the interested public may find these killings unnecessary, questionable and morally repugnant, but we cannot say they were unlawful. Roberts-Smith and all serving soldiers must be able to rely upon the lawfulness of their killing when serving in combat. If there are grounds showing that soldiers have gone beyond lawful conduct and committed war crimes, then there are laws and procedures that govern such circumstances and soldiers can and should be prosecuted under them.

In my view, the core issue facing this case is a question of law, not fact. The question of law is: can a publisher that accuses a soldier of murder or war crimes during ­lawful war service rely on a ­defence of truth in response to a defamation action?

My point is that if Roberts-Smith is alleged to have committed war crimes, then he should be prosecuted and his innocence or guilt determined by appropriate war crime proceedings. In the absence of war crime charges and convictions, Roberts-Smith and any soldier who serves the country should be able to rely on the presumption that their killing in combat was lawful. This means their reputations and honour should not be impugned by public reportage that purport to present truths that have never been established according to the proper procedures of military justice. When they are impugned, then they should be entitled to redress in the civil courts for defamation.

I have read the heavily redacted report of the Brereton Inquiry. The report produced by Major General Paul Brereton in October 2020 for the Inspector-General of the ­Australian Defence Force sets out disturbing findings indicative of misconduct by special forces soldiers serving in Afghanistan, and potential war crimes.

The case of Roberts-Smith was likely canvassed in the Brereton report but, because of the appropriate redactions, this cannot be confirmed. Brereton made a number of recommendations, the principal being that 23 cases of alleged unlawful killings by 19 Australian soldiers should be investigated. The recommendation was that these investigations be undertaken by the Australian Federal Police. Any war crimes prosecutions ultimately require initiation by the Commonwealth Attorney-General.

The campaign in Afghanistan turned out to be a disaster, with the US and its allies, including Australia, cutting and running from what in the end was an ignominious defeat. It would be a strange result indeed if Roberts-Smith is found to have committed war crimes in civil proceedings, as the final wash-up of that long and ill-fated campaign.

Which currently serving or ­future serviceman or woman would serve our country in combat knowing that any killing in which they are involved will not only be subject to the proper laws of war and military justice, but also trial by media?

The investigating media are in a tricky position. They must not be restrained in their investigation of any aspect of the conduct of war. But they must be careful in how they present their investigations to the public insofar as the reputations of individual combatants are concerned. The presumption that soldiers undertaking killing in war are engaged in lawful conduct is one that should only be set aside when the law governing war crimes is properly invoked and the accused found guilty. This is the least that servicemen and women should be assured of by the nation that sends them to war.

It is not necessary to feel ­sympathy for Roberts-Smith or to ­believe he is a soldier or man of good character in order to accept my ­argument here. My concern is with the principle that persons who have served in our armed ­forces be dealt with fairly in relation to their service on the country’s behalf.

The court should rule that the media respondents cannot avail themselves of truth as a defence to their accusations that he committed war crimes in Afghanistan. Whether Roberts-Smith or any other special forces personnel are prosecuted for their conduct in Afghanistan is a matter for the process recommended by the Brereton Inquiry.

calli
calli
March 12, 2022 9:17 am

If you’re interested in what they did in Paducah here is a link to the work. You can see the danger clearly, and what they did to avert it.

calli
calli
March 12, 2022 9:22 am

Might be easier to dig a canal which puts the river to the west of town and airport.

Yes Eyrie. I know the area. It’s very hard to change natural systems, particularly the course of a river. It can be done, but there are…flow on effects (excuse the pun).

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 12, 2022 9:23 am

Ed Casesays:
March 12, 2022 at 9:06 am

Not banned yet, SpongeBob?
While you’re still here, what do you consider an acceptable rate of DV in aboriginal communities?

Dick

Since I never mentioned the possibility of an “acceptable rate of DV in aboriginal communities”, it seems that you are attempting to deflect away from my question about something that you actually said, about ‘the “background” that justifies DV rates many times higher in indigenous communities than in non-indigenous communities’.

If you are unable to explain your stupid comment, perhaps quietly slink away, instead of regularly giving me the opportunity to remind readers of your stupid comment about an unexplained “background” that justifies high DV rates in indigenous communities.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 12, 2022 9:24 am

War crime allegations must be tested in the right forum Noel Pearson
11:00PM March 11, 2022

What follows is an emotional argument that makes no sense at all.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 12, 2022 9:25 am

that justifies high DV rates in indigenous communities.

What do you consider a “low rate” to be, SpongeBob?

Frank
Frank
March 12, 2022 9:27 am

Vulva shaped spaceship. The boys at 4chan are being bit obvious, there is no way it will get taken seriously this time.

calli
calli
March 12, 2022 9:28 am

Also, the diversion you suggest is the Creek, not the Wilsons River. Lismore is on another confluence. Great once for the cedargetters and their barges, not much chop for a flood free town.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 12, 2022 9:29 am

Ed Casesays:
March 12, 2022 at 9:25 am
that justifies high DV rates in indigenous communities.

What do you consider a “low rate” to be, SpongeBob?

Keep avoiding the question, Dickless. It just gives me the opportunity to again remind readers that you think that some unexplained “background” excuses the high rate of DV in indigenous communities.

srr
srr
March 12, 2022 9:30 am

Indolent says:
March 12, 2022 at 9:02 am

Horowitz: VAERS myocarditis already 47% of 2021 in just first 2 months of 2022

What’s extra sad isn’t only those now pushing the, “nothing to see here, heart attacks are the most commonest killers of peoples“, narrative, but that we’ve accepted the numbers of countless crippling & deadly human conditions as ‘normal’, that weren’t at all normal not that long ago.

Many human conditions that have also taken to plaguing animals and not because they eat fast food & sit at computers.

Still, that topic is clearly a bridge to far while global MSM is suddenly telling us the countless ways our hearts can kill us (including, “making our beds” and “breathing”), and people blithely accept that as normal.

Cassie of Sydney
March 12, 2022 9:36 am

“EU parliament votes to sanction Hungary and Poland in midst of Ukraine war — despite both countries welcoming 1.6 million refugees in a fortnight”

I think it’s time that Poland and Hungary left the EU. My loathing of both the EU and NATO increases daily. This action completely exposes their priorities, nothing to do with trade or defence but rather to force perverted ideologies on Poland and Hungary……such as abortion on demand, LGBTQ+, Islamic immigration etc. The EU wants to destroy the populist Polish and Hungarian governments. I believe eastern European countries, after the collapse of communism, should have formed their own trading and defence bloc, maybe something akin to the medieval Hanseatic League. They should not have joined NATO and the EU. The rush to join NATO has contributed to the situation we have today….war in Ukraine. This has aggravated Russia and has left them exposed to corrupt, ruinous and perverted EU policies.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 12, 2022 9:38 am

Cassie at 8:19 and miltonf immediately after.
Mr and Mrs Beetrooter are a double act.
She writes Pauline Hanson-lite stuff in the Tele to placate the base, and he does all the necessary Canberra poodle-faking to keep his ample arse in C*2 and fund the lifestyle.

Cassie of Sydney
March 12, 2022 9:40 am

“Mr and Mrs Beetrooter are a double act.
She writes Pauline Hanson-lite stuff in the Tele to placate the base, and he does all the necessary Canberra poodle-faking to keep his ample arse in C*2 and fund the lifestyle.”

Yep…which is why I have zero respect for both of them.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 12, 2022 9:41 am

Tomsays:

March 12, 2022 at 7:49 am

Still bucketing down in north Florida …

Hmmm.
More cloud seeding perhaps?

Miltonf
Miltonf
March 12, 2022 9:42 am

Very good analysis Sancho. They are total phonies

Miltonf
Miltonf
March 12, 2022 9:43 am

Pauline Hanson lite ha ha

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 12, 2022 9:45 am

Help! I need a new browser. At the moment I use Brave running DDG. DDG is now editing for unauthorised speech according to them. Also I search on very detailed requirements in western sydney to be given results from anywhere. I have Epic, but it is no good for searching. Edge is too slow. I ditched Firefox when the went woke and I loathe google. Any recommendations appreciated.

Crossie
Crossie
March 12, 2022 9:47 am

Dreher, like all of us, wants cool heads to prevail…

Cassie, Dreher is one of those who found fault with everything Trump did. Tsk, tsk, he’s not happy with the “adults” in power.

Rabz
March 12, 2022 9:49 am

Mrs Beetrooter

Will never recover from that mighty beat down administered by our very own calli.

Bourbonesque tin eared tone deafness turned up to eleventy.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 12, 2022 9:50 am

Mr and Mrs Beetrooter are a double act.
She writes Pauline Hanson-lite stuff in the Tele to placate the base, and he does all the necessary Canberra poodle-faking to keep his ample arse in C*2 and fund the lifestyle.

Harsh but more or less fair. I take it you are not their media advisor?

wil
wil
March 12, 2022 9:51 am

The Hunter river was diverted at Maitland after the 1954 floods. They also constructed contour drains in farm land for miles around. Contour drains in red clay in the middle of the vineyards were flattened freal quick the seepage rotted the grape vines.

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
March 12, 2022 9:51 am
areff
areff
March 12, 2022 9:52 am

Let us strive for amity and good fellowship today, lest NewCat gain a reputation for florid insults, acrimony and monomaniacal obsessions.

Crossie
Crossie
March 12, 2022 9:52 am

Cassie, there is already a loose grouping called the Visegrad 4. It is the four countries most detested by the WEF and EU crowd – Poland, Czechia, Slovakia and Hungary.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 12, 2022 9:52 am

The consolation being the Nationals will join the Lieborals being punted like a Tom Brady pass.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 12, 2022 9:54 am

Let us strive for amity and good fellowship today, lest NewCat gain a reputation for florid insults, acrimony and monomaniacal obsessions.

Oops. Too late.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 12, 2022 9:58 am

Lismore – 91 floods in 150 years according to that article. I have run out of sympathy.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 12, 2022 10:00 am

Let us strive for amity and good fellowship today, lest NewCat gain a reputation for florid insults, acrimony and monomaniacal obsessions.

A Thread limited to conversations between Sancho and his cast of wacky characters will do the trick.

Cassie of Sydney
March 12, 2022 10:02 am

“Dreher, like all of us, wants cool heads to prevail…

Cassie, Dreher is one of those who found fault with everything Trump did. Tsk, tsk, he’s not happy with the “adults” in power.”

No, it is not true to say that Dreher found fault with everything Trump did, I’ve heard him interviewed where he says he liked some of Trump’s policies but he wasn’t enamoured of Trump the person. Many others have said the same thing. That wasn’t and isn’t uncommon. I can understand that because Trump was and remains a polarising figure, which is probably why I believe DeSantis should be the next GOP nominee…but that’s my opinion. Even if Dreher is anti-Trump, so what, that shouldn’t discount listening to his opinions and perspectives. I like listening to a range of opinions, from people on the right to people on the left such as Jimmy Dore, Glen Greenwald, George Szamuely and Aaron Mate and they are lefties.

Struth
March 12, 2022 10:02 am

Aha… I’m Dot, knowing me, knowing you, dear struth

The bet is still on. Either myself dying (any cause) or 5% population reduction (any cause) of Australia by February, 2026.

In either case, or both, the loser pays 10 k AUD worth of middling quality of pre 1943 Ram’s head Australian shillings.

Are you man enough to take this bet?

Good Moaning.
Taking bets with morons is a manly thing in your view.
See, you’re already starting to lose the plot.

Let’s point out some basics.
Let me know how you’d pay up once you’re dead, and two, who said anything about there being less people in Australia.
I believe there’s going to be a lot less white people in Australia….we are the enemy, often stated after all, but the WEF NWO will have the place over run with what they, (as racist socialists) believe are far more easily controlled people. In fact they are still flying them in as we speak.
Yet an Australian like myself cannot leave the country or go to a pub in Qld, (it’ll be brought back in other states) can’t go to WA etc, while the jabbed tell me it’s all going back to normal such is the level of delusion.
That mental sickness and delusion is so great, the jabbed can’t understand why some of us may be gravitating toward a low tolerance for dick heads.

Stick a stupid bet like that up your arse dot.
It’s not depopulation of everyone.
Do you really think the Chinese are getting the death jabs, or why third world Africa largely escaped all this bullshit.
Remember, when you talk to me, I’m unjabbed, and still have all my faculties and emotion hasn’t destroyed me.

Oh, and I see Comrade choo choo still isn’t doing anything, the unionised layabout it is.
And you couldn’t even thank me for getting your mates to uptick you.
I mean it was getting fucking embarrassing…………………
Comrade.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 12, 2022 10:04 am

So that’s a “No, I am not man enough” then?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
March 12, 2022 10:05 am

91 floods in 150

I wonder how Wangaratta rates? Built on the junction of 3 rivers.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 12, 2022 10:05 am

What follows is an emotional argument that makes no sense at all.

Made a great deal of sense, Grogs – perhaps you just aren’t the sharpest knife in the drawer

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 12, 2022 10:06 am

Harsh but more or less fair. I take it you are not their media advisor?

I’ve worked in an abattoir.
I’ve mucked out stables.
I’ve got up at 4:00 a.m. to milk cows.
But I have my limits.

Zipster
Zipster
March 12, 2022 10:07 am

Dreher also says why nobody in the west are asking the hard questions about why Putin has invaded….US interference, Ukrainian corruption and so on….now whether you agree with what Putin’s does (and I don’t)….these questions must be asked.

how can they be asked when the epicenter of corruption cheated his way into the white house, with the greatest “voter fraud” organisation in US history.

romney, pelosi, biden and kerry as criminally corrupt quartet

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2022 10:10 am

Ed Casesays:
March 12, 2022 at 9:13 am
LDP, the Party of GloboHomo
That’s really all you need to know.

Hahahahahaha!

Check out the LDP Memes for Free Market Dreams on Facebook or Telegram.

You low energy fraud, Head Case.

cohenite
March 12, 2022 10:12 am

Cassie of Sydneysays:
March 12, 2022 at 9:36 am
“EU parliament votes to sanction Hungary and Poland in midst of Ukraine war — despite both countries welcoming 1.6 million refugees in a fortnight”

And the eurotrash did so because the conservative Hungary and Poland parliaments rejected the gender education crap.

Pauline’s latest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdrnJjQP7aU

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2022 10:13 am

Let me know how you’d pay up once you’re dead, and two, who said anything about there being less people in Australia.

1. You would have a claim against my estate.

2. You.

I have paid up my losses here when bets were made under Sinclair’s stewardship. I’m good for it.

Stick a stupid bet like that up your arse dot.
It’s not depopulation of everyone.

My name is struth, I am unmanly, I am a deadbeat, I am a damp squib, I am full of shit and I am an absolute disgrace.

Cassie of Sydney
March 12, 2022 10:14 am

You can be extremely intelligent but utterly uninformed.

Peter Hitchens.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 12, 2022 10:16 am

Dotsays:
March 12, 2022 at 10:10 am
Ed Casesays:
March 12, 2022 at 9:13 am
LDP, the Party of GloboHomo
That’s really all you need to know.

Hahahahahaha!

Check out the LDP Memes for Free Market Dreams on Facebook or Telegram.

You low energy fraud, Head Case.

Dickless is just shilling for his maaaate “Scotty”, as he does from time to time. I doubt that he actually has sincere beliefs in anything (except his own brilliance, a view not shared by others).

Cassie of Sydney
March 12, 2022 10:18 am

“And the eurotrash did so because the conservative Hungary and Poland parliaments rejected the gender education crap.”

Yep…which is why Poland and Hungary should say a big FUCK YOU EU.

Miltonf
Miltonf
March 12, 2022 10:21 am

Brussels is much more dangerous than Moscow

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 12, 2022 10:22 am

Cassie

If the UK had a reasonable PM, I would suggest that the Visegrad Four should exit the EU, and cut a trade deal with the UK (no point in having one with the US under Hiden Biden).

But BloJo is almost as useless as our mob.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 12, 2022 10:24 am

Dickless

Still unable to explain this mysterious “background” that excuses high rates of DV in indigenous communities? You raised the subject, you must have some explanation!

Beertruk
March 12, 2022 10:24 am

rosie:
March 12, 2022 at 9:03 am
Someone told me that Toowoomba did extensive mitigation works after their last major event.
Is that the reason they didn’t have a problem this time, or was it just not as bad?

Yes, there was a crapload of money spent on mitigation work around the area after the 2011 floods. I don’t think we got the same amount of rain as the 2011, but there was a bit of flooding down town this time.

Miltonf
Miltonf
March 12, 2022 10:24 am

Blowjob’s mission is BINO- Brexit in name only

Miltonf
Miltonf
March 12, 2022 10:25 am

Just another establishment snake

Struth
March 12, 2022 10:25 am

Emotion is ruining our civilisation.
Many of the jabbed, in an effort to live with themselves and live with the information regarding dying from the jabs, coming out now with mountains of evidence, the government CHO in Qld admitting it, tends me to come to the conclusion they want you to know.

Socialism must control you.
It can’t physically control everyone so it must own your mind.
Do they now want you to know without a doubt?

I mean it was nice when your true friends trying to stop you taking jabs could be dismissed as conspiracy theorists, but you can’t do that anymore, and the insanity is increasing.
Could this just be what they want?
Of course…….and they’re cocky enough to stick their finger up at you and ask WTF are you going to do about it peasant?

Remember they hate you.
They are superior to you, and you fuckers used to make them grovel to you every few years at elections.
How degrading for superior beings and an unnecessary theatre, all this democray business.

Has your local rep gone missing.
Mine have.
Their office doors are locked and they don’t respond to anyone’s emails.

And Calli and a few others think it’s going back to normal?

Not without continued fighting.

I’ve got one serious question for you to contemplate.
If you start to think believe that you and your offspring are going to die soon, will you really give a fuck about the plight of your country?
They want you to know what they’ve done to you.
Besides the gloating.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2022 10:26 am

I ain’t gloating until you give me 20k of sweet silver.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2022 10:28 am

Re Rolfe.

We need to go someway to bring back the Roman laws against calumny.

A really, really bad prosecution should be punished with sackings from the top down.

Every person who decided to indict Rolfe should be punted from the bar down to the welfare office.

calli
calli
March 12, 2022 10:28 am

And Calli and a few others think it’s going back to normal?

I didn’t say that.

Struth
March 12, 2022 10:29 am

My name is struth, I am unmanly, I am a deadbeat, I am a damp squib, I am full of shit and I am an absolute disgrace.

The jabbed have a tendancy to get emotional.
Welcome to your new existence, dot.

srr
srr
March 12, 2022 10:29 am

“mh says:
March 12, 2022 at 8:42 am

Indian media better than ours.
It’s for military use – confirmed!

Does Ukraine Have Bio-Weapons? Arnab Confronts The CEO Of America’s Council On Strategic Risks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKoDa8_1QYg

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 12, 2022 10:29 am

I need a new browser. At the moment I use Brave running DDG. DDG is now editing for unauthorised speech according to them.

Ranga – DDG search isn’t Brave browser, they’re separate. As Shy Ted says Brave also has a search site they’re working on.

https://search.brave.com/

I’ve just bookmarked it and will see how it goes. Surber this morning also mention DDG’s stupidity and says he uses the Brave one and also Dogpile. Which I just checked now…unfortunately they have a captcha on it, so I won’t be using them.

I cannot believe how crazy the DDG guys are to do this. Tony Heller has already been censored by them. We all swapped from Goolag to DDG because they didn’t censor, and now their brains have exploded. Sheesh.

Cancelled By DuckDuckGoogle (Tony Heller, 11 Mar)

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2022 10:31 am

Re Russian *chemical* weapons.

Do you really care if you die from cellular asphyxiation or massive shock from intense heat and pressure waves?

Also:

Yes bois, have you seen Putin talking to the WEF head honchos in English at a Davos forum from a while back?

You might be right overall but change the narrative.

Struth
March 12, 2022 10:32 am

My arguments were rock solid regards not taking up your bet.
Dot calls me names for not doing so.
He used to argue points.
That was a quick conversion.

One jab.

“Oh but this jab’s different”….sure it is dot, sure it is.

Cassie of Sydney
March 12, 2022 10:32 am

Colin Brazier and Peter Hichens have a superb conversation on GB News.

Peter Hitchens on Russia’s dark future & the West’s war hysteria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=735Wfs6Ezq8

I love Peter Hitchens, just like I loved his late brother.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 12, 2022 10:32 am

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10599751/Psaki-suggests-Putin-using-chemical-weapons-not-red-line-US.html
It used to that the political lies were at least somewhat believable. Not they just don’t care.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2022 10:34 am

I have some mild side effects from Novavax (which I think, on good evidence and a lot of consideration, is actually safe and effective). No I am not happy my choice was the bread line or being medically molested.

You have become a completely unlikeable turd struth. People don’t want to be lectured to constantly. This isn’t a Volkswagen plant c 1937.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2022 10:34 am

My arguments were rock solid regards not taking up your bet

Weak. As. Cat’s. Piss.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 12, 2022 10:37 am

I have some mild side effects from Novavax

https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/novavax-as-a-booster-australia?s=r

Good luck.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
March 12, 2022 10:37 am

Missing in action.

Anybody seen or heard from Chief Defence Force Angus Campbell recently ?

Seems to have gone under the radar. Odd considering troops being deployed for floods work and recent big announcement about increasing ADF manpower.

lotocoti
lotocoti
March 12, 2022 10:37 am

Pretty sure 91% wouldn’t be if there was true gender equality.
#ToolUpLadies.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 12, 2022 10:38 am

Re the sanction of Poland and Hungary by the prog-socialist EU it was nice to see this one this morning.

Minister Who Spearheaded Hungary’s Pro-Family Policies Elected President (11 Mar)

Novak, who served as State Secretary for Family and Youth Affairs and then as the country’s first Family Minister from October 2020 to December of 2021, oversaw Prime Minister Viktor Orban’s extensive pro-family policies that have been credited with increasing the Hungarian birthrate.

“As long as we have our hands and free will, we cannot be subdued. This is the very basis of our sovereignty. And family is the cradle of sovereignty,” Novak said.

Hungary’s government is nearly unique in pursuing serious encouragement of having a family rather than importing masses of horny male country shoppers. Costello’s baby bonus worked, yet no one else until now has tried it. Good on her.

Struth
March 12, 2022 10:39 am

You have become a completely unlikeable turd struth. People don’t want to be lectured to constantly. This isn’t a Volkswagen plant c 1937.

How can you say this dot, I thought I was amongst friends?
…sniff….

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
March 12, 2022 10:39 am

Eyrie says:
March 12, 2022 at 9:58 am
Lismore – 91 floods in 150 years according to that article. I have run out of sympathy.

A teenaged OSC was delegated to climb up the racks of tyres in a Lismore tyre retailer many moons ago. I found chalk marks at the top of the wall with dates of previous floods.
“Why stay here – won’t it happen again?” was my innocent question.
“Cheap land” was the laconic answer.

So like my gout today, much of Lismore’s woes are self inflicted pain.

duncanm
duncanm
March 12, 2022 10:39 am

lotocotisays:
March 12, 2022 at 10:37 am
Pretty sure 91% wouldn’t be if there was true gender equality.

that is the dumbest tweet I’ve seen in a long time.

The UN is well past its due date.

MatrixTransform
March 12, 2022 10:41 am

GreyRanga,
you can change the search engine you browser uses in settings

I have been using Dissenter with Bing engine for info, when I want retail type stuff, I just navigate to google and search from there

srr
srr
March 12, 2022 10:41 am

Gambling addicts are in many ways worse that alcohol, heroin & crack addicts in that they don’t carry the physical ‘tells’ of the other addicts and even put a lot into presenting as clean & successful in order to scam their way into raising more stakes from the unsuspecting.

Why anyone thinks it smart to take advice from gamblers online is beyond me.

They will literally rob their parents & sell their children to raise the money for another bet, on anything.

calli
calli
March 12, 2022 10:42 am

In fact I have said the exact opposite on several occasions.

The psychological effects from lockdowns and exclusion are going to be far reaching and hard to overcome. Developmental issues in young children and teenagers will be evident for years. Schoolwork, particularly for the poor little buggers at the mercy of the state systems, has been badly affected.

No doubt daddy government will create a whole new bureaucracy to fix the damage they have caused.

Struth
March 12, 2022 10:43 am

I have some mild side effects from Novavax (which I think, on good evidence and a lot of consideration, is actually safe and effective). No I am not happy my choice was the bread line or being medically molested.

Another measure of insanity we note is the jabbed’s ability to think if they survived the first week, they’re safe.
Total insanity.

Couldn’t get another job, dot?
One that doesn’t require the jab?
Well Sancho Frank may have something to say about that………..but of course he won’t.
I wonder why.

Cassie of Sydney
March 12, 2022 10:43 am

There are some people here who seem to have a very black and white view of the world….such as….

Jabs = bad
Unjabbed = good
Russia and Putin = evil
Russia and Putin = good
Donald Trump = a perfect man

Nothing is black and white. Where’s the nuance? Where’s the desire and ability to discuss rationally?

One of the reasons why I liked Donald Trump, is that unlike that phony Obama, he didn’t pretend to be a perfect man.

calli
calli
March 12, 2022 10:48 am

That was the gist of Brand’s twenty minute chit chat up thread, Cassie.

Even he had to preface what he said with “war bad, Ukraine suffering, Putin shouldn’t have invaded”, like some sort of protective mantra.

This is where we’re at with popular culture right now in order to get the Reeee-ers off your back.

will
will
March 12, 2022 10:48 am

Trump was and remains a polarising figure, which is probably why I believe DeSantis should be the next GOP nominee

and you think DeSantis would not be turned into a “polarising” figure by the media?

get a grip

MatrixTransform
March 12, 2022 10:49 am

This isn’t a Volkswagen plant c 1937.

It is especially is not a Ford, Toyota, or Holden plant in 1984

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
March 12, 2022 10:49 am

Dot says:
March 12, 2022 at 10:28 am
Every person who decided to indict Rolfe should be punted from the bar down to the welfare office.

The media seems to be on the prosecution side, despite the not guilty verdict.
Most coverage I have seen emphasises the emotion and anger from the victim’s indigenous community, screaming for “justice” which is shorthand for “revenge”.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 12, 2022 10:49 am

I have some mild side effects from Novavax (which I think, on good evidence and a lot of consideration, is actually safe and effective).

Are you a Doctor?
Then why are you offering Medical Advice?

will
will
March 12, 2022 10:51 am

unlike that phony Obama, he didn’t pretend to be a perfect man.

the idiot half Kenyan did not need to pretend to be anything, the media made him an icon, so you never saw him chain smoking (as an example), it was a totally flawless presentation of the One.

Cassie of Sydney
March 12, 2022 10:51 am

“and you think DeSantis would not be turned into a “polarising” figure by the media?

get a grip”

My grip is pretty good, thank you very much. I’ve watched how DeSantis deals with the media. And no, the demonisation of DeSantis doesn’t wash the way it did with Trump. I know the MSM try…but it doesn’t work.

Cassie of Sydney
March 12, 2022 10:53 am

“Even he had to preface what he said with “war bad, Ukraine suffering, Putin shouldn’t have invaded”, like some sort of protective mantra.”

Yep…it becomes quite tedious after a while.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 12, 2022 10:54 am

The media seems to be on the prosecution side, despite the not guilty verdict.

Seems to be, but isn’t.

Most coverage I have seen emphasises the emotion and anger from the victim’s indigenous community,

It’s being stage managed to portray aboriginal people in a poor light.
Selected mouthpieces, told what to say and what’s not in the script, by their Minders.

shatterzzz
March 12, 2022 10:56 am

Jussie Smollett .. the verdict .. rude but fair! .. LOL!

https://ibb.co/4j6GmP8

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
March 12, 2022 10:57 am

Another measure of insanity we note is the jabbed’s ability to think if they survived the first week, they’re safe.
Total insanity.

“Jabbed’s” how very twee

People got it for a lot of reasons, it may have been they saw themselves in an at risk group, required it to work or needed to because they are FIFO or work offshore.

Your utter unhinged obsession with this is completely unhealthy, adults make choices, weather you agree or disagree is superfluous to how that choice was made.

Let me reiterate so it is crystal clear, ADULTS MAKE CHOICES, give it a rest FFS, some people had and/or have no intention of getting jabbed. That is their fucking choice, if someone believes that getting jabbed or getting a booster is efficacious, that is a choice they make as an adult. If it works or not is a different question.

Knock off the unhinged horseshit.

I’m going fishing, have a nice day troops.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
March 12, 2022 10:57 am

Dot says: March 12, 2022 at 8:52 am

the party liked being the Liberal Democrats, the punters like the Liberty & Democracy name.

Hmm, interesting. I guess it gets the stench of `murcan Democrats out of the name.
Perhaps a case of “you can’t improve if you remain attached to who you are”.
Plus the punters didn’t have a mountain of pamphlets, news history, and billboards to scrap.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 12, 2022 10:57 am

Thanks Matrix, trying it now.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 12, 2022 10:59 am

An all woman cast of clowns, plus a few ancient men.
Where are all the men aged 16 to 50 in the remote aboriginal communities?
In hiding, don’t have an opinion on anything, or does their opinion [and existence] not suit the MainScreamMedia’s Narrative of

Aboriginal Men Bad

??

Struth
March 12, 2022 10:59 am

There are some people here who seem to have a very black and white view of the world….such as….
Nothing is black and white. Where’s the nuance? Where’s the desire and ability to discuss rationally?

Mother…..it’s not my son’s fault, look he hangs around with the wrong people, they lead him astray.
It’s not just black and white…….he’s a good boy underneath.

Father
He’s my son and he knows better. He knew what he was doing and I’m going to kick his arse.

Some things are black and white.
There is the right thing, and there is the wrong thing.
And we argue strongly to work out which is which.

Cassie of Sydney
March 12, 2022 11:00 am

“Carpe Jugulumsays:
March 12, 2022 at 10:57 am”

Hear, hear.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
March 12, 2022 11:01 am

will says:
March 12, 2022 at 10:51 am
the media made him an icon….. it was a totally flawless presentation of the One.

I admit to being sucked into believing his superiority and worth as a future President during the run-up to the Presidential elections.
Then he gave what I thought to be a most insipid Presidential inaugural address.
Warning sign no.1
Told my work colleagues and friends my opinion, only to be met with utter dismay and condemnation for thinking negatively about The One.
Warning sign no.2 and settled the anti-Obama deal for me.

shatterzzz
March 12, 2022 11:03 am

Most coverage I have seen emphasises the emotion and anger from the victim’s indigenous community, screaming for “justice” which is shorthand for “revenge”.

If any of the 251s had accepted the verdict I’d have been shocked! .. shocked, I tellz ya! ..
the entire media coverage was based on the, hoped for, outrage a “not guilty” verdict would cause .. no disappointment here .. LOL!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 12, 2022 11:07 am

Where’s the nuance? Where’s the desire and ability to discuss rationally?

Exactly. For example on the biolabs thing I (a) am not terribly surprised for a lot of reasons (b) I suspect Anthony Fauci has is tacky little fingerprints all over it. Which hasn’t been discussed by anyone as far as I can recall.

Barack Obama just might have some input too, given his propensity for knocking off Presidents he didn’t like. Then of course there’s Biden, Pelosi, Clinton and Romney, all with…interests…in Ukraine.

Bill From the Bush
Bill From the Bush
March 12, 2022 11:09 am

Grey Ranga,
As others have said, the search engine and the browser are not necessarily intertwined.

I use Dissenter as a browser and Startpage as a search engine. Startpage by default applies a family filter which can distort results, however it is easy enough to create a bookmark link which has that
de-activated.

Dissenter is Brave with the payment system and a couple of other things stripped out and no doubt a few other things put in. Both Brave and Dissenter run on the open source Chromium engine.

Roger
Roger
March 12, 2022 11:12 am

Lismore – 91 floods in 150 years according to that article.

ScoMo’s fault, apparently.

Struth
March 12, 2022 11:17 am

Sorry Carp, but when you know it comes with a passport, you are actively participating in setting up a segregated society.
I’m sick of this horseshit…we’re all adults, so we make our own choices, bullshit.

As I have always said, you stick whatever you like in you, up you, over you, …roll around in it.
Couldn’t give a flying fuck.
Your business.
The minute you participate and submit to a passport, it’s no longer just your business. You are actively participating in something very evil.
And helping evil become empowered to destroy other people.
That’s just a fact.
A very uncomfortable fact, nonetheless, a fact.
And no wonder you don’t want a mirror held up to you.

And you will be told.
And it is black and white.

And as the government admit what they’ve done to you, the outcome will be that not only has that evil been unleashed on others, ….thank you……but it seems doing a deal with the devil isn’t going to work out good for you guys either.
Who woulda thunk it?

And I was pointing out that moral argument while still getting mocked for even suggesting there would be a passport.

So instead of sitting around being a smart arse Frank, and telling me what I should be doing, after you took the jab knowing it comes with a passport, the truth is, you should be getting off your fat arse and trying to fix what you’ve done to your fellow man.
You talk of me not being liked.
As if people like you are?!
I don’t mind people saying they hated the idea, or were forced to get the jab, life and death, family emergencies…that should have worked out to about no more than ten percent of Australians.
The thing I won’t tolerate is a smug “we’ve done nothing wrong, we all have choices, so deal with it” bullshit.
And there’s plenty of that on this blog.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 12, 2022 11:17 am

will says:
March 12, 2022 at 10:51 am
the media made him an icon….. it was a totally flawless presentation of the One.

In 2005 and again in 2006, Senator Barack H Obama (D, Ill) voted against Republican-sponsored measures to wind back the securitised mortgage industry. The measures failed to pass.

In 2008, the securitised mortgage industry collapsed, taking the rest of the world’s economy with it. Presidential nominee Barack H Obama excoriated GWB’s administration for not having done anything to head off the GFC.

I don’t blame Obama for the hypocritical grandstanding – that’s politics, and that was his job.
But the media’s job was to point out the hypocrisy – instead they frenetically covered it up. It wasn’t as though they needed to do any investigative journalism. It was all on the public record. They just deliberately suppressed any mention of it. Pravda and Izvestia couldn’t have been more thorough.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 12, 2022 11:21 am

Some of Mr Walker’s supporters were in court for the trial and to hear the verdicts being delivered.

Outside court, one supporter said: “We are feeling so empty that our beloved young fella has been taken away from us. I know nothing can bring him back.”

Another supporter wiped away tears while addressing the media.

“We are deeply saddened by the result and cannot put our grief into words,” she said.

“Many of us have travelled far to be here, to represent our family, our community, and most importantly, Kumanjayi, who could no longer represent himself.

“We were robbed of the opportunity to say goodbye to him.

“We, as a family and community, remember him as a young man who loved animals, who loved his family, who loved his partner, his friends, his homelands, who loved music.

“He was a traditional, young Aboriginal man who loved hunting and being out on country.

“He was a joyful, young man who was generous, a young man who was taken far too soon and a young man who will be deeply, deeply missed.”

“Loved his partner” F.M.S.

rickw
rickw
March 12, 2022 11:21 am

The psychological effects from lockdowns and exclusion are going to be far reaching and hard to overcome. Developmental issues in young children and teenagers will be evident for years. Schoolwork, particularly for the poor little buggers at the mercy of the state systems, has been badly affected.

A lot depends a lot on how much parents were able to give shade to their kids from the machinations of The State.

Children of wealthier parents probably fared better, children of less wealthy parents probably fared worse. Of course no one actually thinks of children beyond screaming “think of the children!”.

Delta A
Delta A
March 12, 2022 11:21 am

I’m going fishing, have a nice day troops.

Don’t forget the bait!

srr
srr
March 12, 2022 11:22 am

One of the good things lockdowns have raised in the US is a greater interest in Home Schooling.

The Alphabet/CSE push for schools to have more rights over children than parents has also helped parents discover that schools don’t ‘socialise’ children but rather, turn them into confused, depressed people who can only bond with the State Mob because their ability to trust & socialise with family & friends has been broken.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2022 11:23 am

I’m going fishing, have a nice day troops.

So am I. Catallaxy Bar and Inlet.

rickw
rickw
March 12, 2022 11:23 am

“We are feeling so empty that our beloved young fella has been taken away from us. I know nothing can bring him back.”

Slightly at odds with “ he’s not right in the head, we wish he’d fuck off and leave us alone!”

Roger
Roger
March 12, 2022 11:23 am

I don’t blame Obama for the hypocritical grandstanding…

I do.

We need leaders who have integrity and humility.

I’m sick of lies and incompetence.

People who work hard and pay their taxes deserve better.

John H.
John H.
March 12, 2022 11:25 am

Rogersays:
March 12, 2022 at 11:23 am
I don’t blame Obama for the hypocritical grandstanding…

I do.

We need leaders who have integrity and humility.

I’m sick of lies and incompetence.

People who work hard and pay their taxes deserve better.

You living in the wrong century, perhaps the wrong millennium, probably a member of the wrong species.

rickw
rickw
March 12, 2022 11:26 am

What sort of coverage has the biolabs story attracted here in Australia? ?

What?

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2022 11:27 am

Ed Casesays:
March 12, 2022 at 10:49 am
I have some mild side effects from Novavax (which I think, on good evidence and a lot of consideration, is actually safe and effective).

Are you a Doctor?
Then why are you offering Medical Advice?

Indeed I am.

Friends know me as Dr Professor Frank Gilroy MD SC MBA PhD GCMG.

I am an expert in NSW fisheries laws, Scott Morrison, Queensland traffic law, Ben Batterham, NSW Public Health dictates, Newcastle, ersatz beer, etc.

But not owning Bichon Frises dogs, nor indoor well ownership.

That’s your purview.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2022 11:28 am

One of the good things lockdowns have raised in the US is a greater interest in Home Schooling.

Yes, yes it is.

John H.
John H.
March 12, 2022 11:28 am

shatterzzzsays:
March 12, 2022 at 11:03 am
Most coverage I have seen emphasises the emotion and anger from the victim’s indigenous community, screaming for “justice” which is shorthand for “revenge”.

If any of the 251s had accepted the verdict I’d have been shocked! .. shocked, I tellz ya! ..
the entire media coverage was based on the, hoped for, outrage a “not guilty” verdict would cause .. no disappointment here .. LOL!

To be fair, and I admit surprise at this, on The Drum last night your beliefs were largely validated with one important exception. A youngish man, of indigenous heritage, trained in the law, gave what I perceived to be a very balanced and realistic analysis of the trial and verdict. A small glimmer of hope.

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