Open Thread – Tues 15 March 2022


Caesar Crossing the Rubicon, Adolphe Yvon, 1875

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Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 17, 2022 7:35 am

Sancho Panzer:
March 16, 2022 at 9:11 pm

Ed.
On fire.
Not.

Very cruel.

I read the first two sentences and in the moments between reading them and reading the third my heart soared then crashed to the Earth.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 17, 2022 7:49 am

Did someone overnight assign responsibility for a ‘heart attack’ on a handful of anonymous blog commenters, and one such commenter in particular?

Seriously.

calli
calli
March 17, 2022 7:49 am

Kittehs…please don’t call for apologies on my behalf, though your sentiments are appreciated.

Strong feelings strongly expressed.
Doesn’t mean I’m particularly impressed.

And on that couplet, I’m off for the day – being an early Easter Bunny.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
March 17, 2022 7:54 am

Gift horse waiting.
Call me a psychic but clear winner of the coming federal election would be the party that sets out a clear plan to reduce fuel prices.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 17, 2022 7:55 am

And if your army can no longer win wars, then it certainly isn’t going to win an insurrection of 100 million heavily armed furious righties.

See Kurt Schlichter (Lt Col. US Army ret) on that topic. He reckons the whole US army would be flat out controlling a few districts in LA let alone the whole city and suburbs and the rest of the country..

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 17, 2022 7:59 am

As much as I appreciate any opportunity to lay the boot into Labor tarts (and Mr. Wong particularly, who looks like the toughest social worker going around), it may be a long bow to draw suggesting that bullying – or what in this day and age is classified as bullying – is directly responsible for a massive ticker failure, and which in turn generated a significant drop in body temperature.

There’s plenty of provable, undisputed ratbaggery that can and should be laid at the feet of Wong and Nobody’s Girl. I’m not sure this should be on that list.

JMH
JMH
March 17, 2022 8:07 am

Did someone overnight assign responsibility for a ‘heart attack’ on a handful of anonymous blog commenters, and one such commenter in particular?

Seriously.

I blame the upticks!

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
March 17, 2022 8:09 am

True Knuckles but it’s about time the pecking chooks of the left were exposed for the nasty little puffed up feather dusters they are.
The have used misogyny/gender as cover from scrutiny for the schoolyard games they happily play against other women.

sfw
sfw
March 17, 2022 8:11 am

I remember Melbourne having a St Patricks Day march/parade, it ran down Bourke St. It was discontinued in the mid 60’s. Any other Australian Cities have similar marches?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 17, 2022 8:11 am

What is the ‘k.d.’ bit of ‘k.d. Wong’?

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 17, 2022 8:14 am

What is the ‘k.d.’ bit of ‘k.d. Wong’?

Play on k.d.Lang who also bats for the other side.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 17, 2022 8:16 am

Aaaaand the NT shitshow keeps shitshowing. The NT News:

THE Gunner government has gone to ground in astonishing fashion, opening a supermarket 1000km from Darwin while avoiding questions about whether it played any role in charging Constable Zach Rolfe with murder.

Chief Minister Michael Gunner and six of his cabinet colleagues have flown to Tennant Creek.

That’s despite the police union, Constable Rolfe’s father, the police officer’s legal team and the Opposition all raising questions about perceived political interference in the decision to charge Constable Rolfe.

As is turns out, this cornucopia of shiftless incompetence is going there to open a supermarket:

On Wednesday, Mr Gunner spent the day in Tennant Creek, where he opened the local IGA that was previously gutted by fire. That’s despite the supermarket having actually opened to the public two weeks ago.

By ‘gutted by fire’, they mean ‘set on fire and burned to the ground by a 12 year old indig girl with no consequences as a direct result of Gunner’s own policies’.

The Police Minister is also under the covers, literally:

Police Minister Nicole Manison, who under Westminster conventions bears ultimate responsibility for her portfolio, only provided a three line statement on the trial after the NT News contacted her office, five days after the verdict. She is currently isolating with Covid-19 in Darwin.

Covid. That old chestnut. Gunner used that one several months ago when some questioning started to get a bit hot. A week off, then a reset. At least the opposition – such as it is – is swinging leather:

Ms Finocchiaro [CLP opposition leader] also criticised Ms Manison for not releasing a statement on the trial result after five days.

“Sitting at home with Covid is no excuse to not making comment on one of the most significant murder trials in the Territory’s history, particularly when it involves one of her own police officers,” she said.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 17, 2022 8:17 am

From last night where somebody was caving because of pressure from family and friends. Get new friends and tell family if they can’t live and let live you’ll get another of those as they are all too stupid to be around. With the evidence mounting that the jabs are ineffective and unsafe who would you *now* get jabbed.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 17, 2022 8:19 am

Ed Casesays:
March 16, 2022 at 10:03 pm
Just how does Kristena keep falling up?

Simplest and most obvious explanation?
She’s a Spook.

Dick Ed always reverts to his childish obsession with “spooks” to explain everything from Kung Flu to a drought.

duncanm
duncanm
March 17, 2022 8:19 am

cohenitesays:
March 16, 2022 at 9:24 pm
Its not just Israel who will have to clean up biden’s mess in giving iran the bomb, but other arab nations:

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/18332/arabs-warning-biden

The big gorilla hiding in the corner of that article was the Trump adminstration. Obama started a mess, Biden is worse…. but it seems relationships were ok in that blank period we can’t mention.

Glad to see the Arabs are seriously worried about Iran – maybe they’ll help Israel do something about it?

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 17, 2022 8:22 am

Dickless Ed

On this Site he’s masquerading as RockRibbedConservative ex Army Rex Franger.
It’s a fucking different story on some of the other sites he infests.

Perhaps you could favour us with some links to prove this?

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 17, 2022 8:24 am

Ed Casesays:
March 16, 2022 at 10:20 pm
Including the ex – wife who was demanding that BRS sell his medals, so she could receive her share?

Fair enough, he’ll hafta sell them anyway to pay the lawyers.
From

For an avid user of Google, you are remarkably ill-informed. His boss, Kerry Stokes, is covering the legal costs.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 17, 2022 8:25 am

The have used misogyny/gender as cover from scrutiny for the schoolyard games they happily play against other women.

My wordy lordy yes. Chromosomal.

Strong womxns who won’t be lectured to by men, striding the Earth like colossi. When it all goes bad it’s ‘bullying’. Someone should do something, obviously.

If it saves just one microaggression.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
March 17, 2022 8:27 am

Two items to cross off my bingo card from this morning’s Costello Network Radio News Bulletin (Melbourne) this morning. I may have missed others as I came in late:

🙂 Peoples arrested over the murder, last year, of an aspiring rapper.
🙂 Restauranteur complaining about the labour shortage with an emphasis on bringing foreigners in rather than allowing the unjabbed to go back to work.

Here’s a thought. If we ‘right-sized’ the bureaucracy, many workers would be released to participate in private industry.

duncanm
duncanm
March 17, 2022 8:28 am

C.L.says:
March 16, 2022 at 9:45 pm
Pauline on fire – she’s taking to Penny Wong with a baseball bat on Sky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjsB7CaKUl0

Wong won’t even be going to her funeral.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 17, 2022 8:30 am

Salvatore

Coz as anybody who’s been in the army knows, procedures around the control of ammo are pretty loose & several hundred rounds ending up in your civvy car is something that could happen to anyone.

Standard warning:

“It is an offence, both military and civil, to remove ammunition or the produce of ammunition …”

Proclaimed on every relevant occasion.

shatterzzz
March 17, 2022 8:35 am

– My wife did not take a restraining order on me, it was done by the police as a form of harassment against me after a nosey neighbour told police “they heard shouting from our apartment”.

From a piece quoting OZ Cossack on the other cat site …
anyone know how plod can take out a restraining order when neithe rof the parties involved has asked for one?
Burwood plod station must be a much sort after posting when it comes to quiet plodding! ..
out here in Fairfield plod, actually, attending a non violent crime is quite an achievement ..
The (illegal) power pole is still up & running in Guildford .. LOL!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 17, 2022 8:36 am

If the murder of twelve innocent people can help save one human life, it will have been worth it.

– Dr. Alfred Necessiter

Indolent
Indolent
March 17, 2022 8:39 am
Boambee John
Boambee John
March 17, 2022 8:40 am

Bourne1879says:
March 17, 2022 at 1:09 am
Two problems with this. The nomination and approval process is very long. BRS completed that tour. Plus there is the fact he went back for another tour after he had received the VC.

“We’ll award Roberts Smith the VC, that brings him back to Australia and he stops being a problem.”

Surely you’re not suggesting that Dickless Ed (shudder) makes things up? Are you a spook?

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 17, 2022 8:44 am

“It is an offence, both military and civil, to remove ammunition or the produce of ammunition …”

I have no ammunition or range produce in my possession…

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 17, 2022 8:47 am

Can you sneak ammo out by shooting it through the side of a tent?

Gab
Gab
March 17, 2022 8:48 am

LOL. Love this priest and his accent too! Plain-talking and common sense of the Irish.

“I want this vulgar, drink-sodden, bullsh!t that is commonly called St. Patrick’s Day to stop so that the celebration of a major Catholic figure in the Irish Catholic experience is not ruined.”

Abolish St Patrick’s ”Day”. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tccfyiu0Uiw

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 17, 2022 8:56 am

It is an offence, both military and civil, to remove ammunition or the produce of ammunition

Takes me back. Used to be able to recite that one verbatim.

I always wondered what would happen if someone a) pinched a couple of pieces of expended Mag 58 belt link, b) someone ratted them out, and c) what would ensue. I used to picture the scene from Life of Brian where 50 Roman soldiers charged in to search a room, resulting in ‘Found this spoon, Sir’.

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 17, 2022 8:57 am

Can you sneak ammo out by shooting it through the side of a tent?

The rules of my private range are simple
1) Always bring more than one gun
2) Visitors must bring a new gun every time – this is known as a ‘range ticket’
3) .338 and up counts as 2 tickets
4) .50cal and up counts as 4 tickets
5) ammuntion may not leave the range, save at muzzle velocity

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 17, 2022 8:58 am

I want this vulgar, drink-sodden, bullsh!t that is commonly called St. Patrick’s Day to stop

Yet another sacred tradition cancelled then?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 17, 2022 9:03 am

When I were a kid St Patrick’s Day was the day in Lent when you had a dispensation from our sacrifice.

Like many parents mine decided we would give up something that happened also not to be good for us: lollies.

So, when St Pat’s Day came around we ate chocolates and lollies with the feverishness and determination of squirrels loading up for hibernation.

Struth
March 17, 2022 9:07 am

Good Moaning.
Delta A.
Calli accused me of gloating over people’s jab deaths.
If that doesn’t warrant a get […], what does?

So double get […].
A little too much of the “I’ll say as I please, but then scream but I’m a woman” when you get told exactly what your comment deserves.

If anyone here can provide any proof that I have forced anyone into anything, then please bring it forward.
Other than that, reading through the lines to the obvious meaning, …..is I am making some people look at their actions, or lack thereof, and they don’t like it.

Seeing you went and got double jabbed like the cretins you are, completely gone now mentally, don’t fucking lecture me about trying to get people not to take boosters.
Going by past performance, I’d say I’ve got a responsibility as your fellow human, to keep on going.
God knows what the fuck you dickheads will do to yourselves next.
Anything for a quiet life now, hey?
Well at least until the clot does it’s job.
All the bing bongs and 18 speed crap people throw back at me is more a reflection on them.
So again, when I get an apology from many people now proved to be completely wrong, those calling me a nanna killer etc, for playing gigs in pubs, then maybe I’ll show some respect, Delta, but repect is earned, and stating that I’m gloating over vax deaths, deserves a big get fucked in response.

Let he who hath not typed the word fuck on these pages, throw the first virtue faint.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 17, 2022 9:07 am

Knuckle Draggersays:
March 17, 2022 at 8:56 am
It is an offence, both military and civil, to remove ammunition or the produce of ammunition

Takes me back. Used to be able to recite that one verbatim.

I still can, and the MAG 58 didn’t even exist during my time in the ARes.

Bluey
Bluey
March 17, 2022 9:07 am

dover0beachsays:
March 17, 2022 at 9:02 am
Good thread on the current claim that Russians bombed a theatre in Mariupol that was allegedly ‘sheltering’ civilians:

Russians With Attitude
@RWApodcast
·
4h
Quote Tweet

Elena Evdokimova
@elenaevdokimov7
· Mar 13
Reportedly, Mariupol locals ask to spread this information.
There is no reason for Russia to bomb/shell a Drama theatre.

If this happens- this is a horrible provocation.
Hope this saves lives. twitter.com/elenaevdokimov…

Guess that rumor of it being the HQ of Azov must have had something behind it.

bons
bons
March 17, 2022 9:13 am

When Training Command in the late 90’s contracted out all base administration at Kapooka, it was discovered, surprise surprise, that considerable quantities of ball and blank ammunition fell into the car boots of the ‘boys from down the pub’ hired by the contractor.
More concerning, the blank ammo packs put together by the contractor for minor tactics training contained in some cases live ball ammo. Neither the boys from the pub, nor some recruits, could tell the difference.
But a lot of money was saved!

Struth
March 17, 2022 9:20 am

They speak of Warnie’s death overseas and know exactly what happened.
The level of corruption and institutional ruin in our country is something many here cannot grasp.

An autopsy is an autopsy is an autopsy.

They could have dragged a metre long blood clot out of Warnie, and the autopsy, if there even was one, would show natural causes.
Most likely the blood clot that kills you will never be found.
But you WANT to believe he died of natural causes and can’t quite fathom, as many of you are boomers, just how corrupt and lost to globalism Australia is.

At least the comments on this story below, show people not so desperate to believe a narrative to delude themselves.
There are many in Australia and overseas who won’t delude themselves.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 17, 2022 9:26 am

When I were a kid St Patrick’s Day was the day in Lent when you had a dispensation from our sacrifice.

That was my experience too.
For us, St Pat’s was an extended family thing. I don’t remember it as an excuse for a massive pissup – although adult relatives who had chosen to abstain for Lent would certainly take advantage for a top up.

Green beer and stupid leprechaun hats is a more recent innovation. Probably by the Traditional Irish Pub industry.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
March 17, 2022 9:27 am

Did someone overnight assign responsibility for a ‘heart attack’ on a handful of anonymous blog commenters, and one such commenter in particular?

Seriously.

Yes. Seriously. The 56 upticks on one denigratory comment about me after growing numbers of upticks on a series of abusive and denigratory comments from noted people here is not ‘a handful’.

On seeing that final 56, I felt as though I had been punched hard in the stomach.

Plus all that went before, egged on over years by one female in particular. You were contributary, KD, and I had thought better of you and several other men of skill and intellect. You were the first to hop in last night too with another piece of snide and now your ‘it’s just a blog’ comment above. Internet bullying is real, and has killed people less resilient than I have learned to be. Especially, vulnerable are young women, who simply suicide as so much of their lives are lived online. And I guess I was susceptible, an increasingly vulnerable old person, vulnerable to anguish though not to self-harm. I was admitted to hospital from Emergency, by the way. I was not imagining it nor were the hospital treating it lightly. A severe helicobacter pylori gastritis can mimic CHD presentation in females, especially with shoulder tip pain. I suspect an older infection flared or renewed due to stress from the attacks being made on me on Catallaxy. I always took this place seriously, not as ‘just a blog’. Nor do I disagree with rightful and corrective discourse made to me by others who do so with courtesy.

There are still many good people here whom I respect, and miss. Kimberley Kitchen’s death though, and Leak’s cartoon above, should give some here pause to consider their own behaviour on a blog claiming a higher moral ground than that of the left, and I came in here specifically to make that point, not to engage in further commentary nor to generate it. Let it be.

On the Australian, the huge number of comments on the topic of Kimberley’s bullying and death from CHD have many women writing about being bullied by other women. It is an epidemic, and may have its origins in a certain form of feminist rejection of more traditional women, albeit one that draws upon a substratum of schoolgirl clique behaviour. I would like to investigate that further, how it has played out against me on a libertarian and conservative site, just as it played out against me in academia when I veered over years increasingly to the right in a very left-wing faculty that included a well-known school of journalism, whose tenets I contravened in my scholarship and teaching. On one notable occasion I was loudly abused and screamed at down a corridor by a shrieking harpy for it.

A contributing factor to my angst here was bullying as a disadvantaged child at school, when I was a year younger and smaller than other girls in the A strand class, who were mostly also advantaged by a comfortable home that provisioned them properly for school. I read the library out and left home and school at fourteen, as soon as I could, in 1956. Pogria has recently written here of her immigrant school experiences in the far more helpful and aware 1960’s. Rather ironic I think. It’s fine for my female detractors to speak here of their own experiences.

A case of it’s OK when they do it? People here can hit on me for my life as it is at present and where I live and my happy marriage? Make up memes and stories, and deliberately misinterpet what I say? You go girls, and your flock of upticking men. Who wouldn’t be annoyed at that?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 17, 2022 9:29 am

Yuendumu trial: Top End weighs reforms to ‘unfair’ justice system

Amos Aikman
Northern Correspondent
@amosaikman
7:35PM March 16, 2022

A lawyer who represented Palm Island residents after the death in custody of Mulrunji Doomadgee says Indigenous Australians in the Top End have “no real access to justice” due to issues such as poor police investigations and unfair jury selection.

The comments come as The Australian can reveal the Northern Territory government is contemplating reforming parole, bail and jury selection laws to address elements deemed “unfair, discriminatory or detrimental to Aboriginal people”.

Kumanjayi Walker’s relatives and other Yuendumu community members protested outside court, after Zachary Rolfe was acquitted of murder, that they had been denied a fair trial by a “really dishonest” system looking only through non-Aboriginal eyes.

“We felt we were left out. Are we not part of Australia?” Warren Japanangka Williams said. “We want Yapa (Warlpiri) people on juries that can hear or tell other jury members how we see it; it’s always Kardiya (non-Aboriginal) people seeing it through their eyes.”

They complained Constable Rolfe was allowed to remain on bail for more than two years, where similar Aboriginal defendants are held on remand.

Stewart Levitt, a lawyer and activist who secured a historic $30m payout for Palm Island residents, said there was “no real access to justice for Indigenous people through the criminal justice system in Northern Australia”.

“The whole principle of juries is that a person gets tried by their peers,” he said. “Could it be said that a non-Indigenous person is a peer of an Indigenous person from Katherine, Central Australia or anywhere else in terms of their lives and values?

“The system is so vulnerable to manipulation … there’s no real oversight.”

He pointed to weaknesses in police investigations – two Palm Island investigations were found to be flawed – and queried whether anyone who doubted the ability of an Indigenous person to deliver a fair verdict in a case involving a non-Indigenous victim felt the same way when circumstances were reversed.

Attorney-General Selena Uibo, an Aboriginal woman, said her government was “reviewing and reforming legislative provisions within the justice system that are unfair, discriminatory or detrimental to Aboriginal people” but declined to go into specifics.

“The scope of the review includes examining laws which restrict the geographic areas from which jurors can be drawn,” she said.

Territorians are disqualified from serving on juries if they cannot read, write and speak English, have spent time in jail in the past seven years or do not reside in the Greater Darwin or Alice Springs areas.

Constable Rolfe’s trial was moved from Alice Springs – which has a higher proportion of Indigenous residents – to Darwin after his lawyers argued some “extraordinary pre-trial publicity” could be “highly prejudicial” to the case.

None of the jurors empanelled was visibly Aboriginal, but Constable Rolfe’s father suggested one was related to an Indigenous community police officer.

Helen
Helen
March 17, 2022 9:32 am

The deep thoughts of VP Harris.

Needs to be written up as one f those little inspiration books, a quote for each day to get yuo on your way, lols

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 17, 2022 9:32 am

Knuckle Draggersays:
March 17, 2022 at 8:56 am
It is an offence, both military and civil, to remove ammunition or the produce of ammunition

Certain officer did nothing for his popularity, when he used that clause to crack down on the practice of wearing a grenade pin in the camouflage band of your bush hat…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 17, 2022 9:37 am

Adabanyakjhon
59 minutes ago
“Noticeably Aboriginal” jurors? Didn’t a similar observation about Aboriginal identity and appearance land Andrew Bolt in hot water?

shatterzzz
March 17, 2022 9:39 am

Ukrainian refugee child’s first day at school in Balbriggan (near Dublin)…..
https://ibb.co/jhq2WMV

rosie
rosie
March 17, 2022 9:43 am

There is plenty of literature on how sudden stress can trigger heart attacks.

And reading the various articles about the mean girls it does look like they (and other members of their faction) went out of their way to make life intolerable for their colleague.
I’m all for the rough and tumble of politics, but your own team?
That’s where I’d expect a little support.

like it or not

shatterzzz
March 17, 2022 9:43 am

The comments come as The Australian can reveal the Northern Territory government is contemplating reforming parole, bail and jury selection laws to address elements deemed “unfair, discriminatory or detrimental to Aboriginal people”.

I’m guessing promoting something as simple as .. don’t break the law and you won’t be in trouble .. wasn’t considered worthwhile ..

rosie
rosie
March 17, 2022 9:45 am

Best thing Aboriginal people could do is get out of the territory altogether.

areff
areff
March 17, 2022 9:47 am

NKP: Further to the Costello Network’s Melbourne outlet, have just heard Neil Mitchell trying to milk the last drop scare out of COVID and obligatory masks.

Arky
March 17, 2022 9:48 am

Russia seems to have created the worst drilled infantry in the entire world.
Raw chick recruits out of Kapooka’s broken chick platoon waiting for their ouchies to heal could probably put on a better show than these dead shits.
I wonder what happened next?
https://funker530.com/video/russian-troop-transport-vehicle-takes-direct-hit-from-rocket/
Anyway. Good work Ukrainian romper stompers.

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 17, 2022 9:49 am

It is an offence, both military and civil, to remove ammunition or the produce of ammunition

The phrase when I was still serving, ten years or so ago, was to be lined up at the end of a shoot, and have a gunny type stand in front of you. You then had to say: “I have no range produce in my possession, corporal” or whatever rank they were.

The first time I had to do it I thought this is monumentally insane so I tried “as he said corporal”. He just looked at me sadly and said “say the right words sir”. There was no escape.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 17, 2022 9:51 am

They complained Constable Rolfe was allowed to remain on bail for more than two years, where similar Aboriginal defendants are held on remand.

Similar defendants, as in ‘killed someone in the course of exercising an official duty’?

I get the impression that changes to the NT jury system are going to bring a refreshing cultural aspect to the administration of justice.

Frank
Frank
March 17, 2022 9:54 am

The comments come as The Australian can reveal the Northern Territory government is contemplating reforming parole, bail and jury selection laws to address elements deemed “unfair, discriminatory or detrimental to Aboriginal people”.

If this comes to pass then it will open up a nice business opportunity for the indigenous folk. Crime for hire.

rosie
rosie
March 17, 2022 9:55 am

I read about that 17 March day off ML, was never given in my family, not that it would have helped, as there were never stashes of lollies and chocolates either.

Bluey
Bluey
March 17, 2022 9:58 am

Putin: I want ordinary citizens of Western states to hear me too. They are now trying to convince you that all your difficulties are the result of some hostile actions of Russia. That from your wallet you need to pay for the fight against the mythical Russian threat. It’s all a lie! And the truth is that the problems faced by millions of people in the West are the result of years of actions by the ruling elites in the West. Their mistakes, myopia and ambitions. These elites are not thinking about how to improve the lives of their citizens, they are obsessed with their selfish interests and super profits.

It’s hard to argue with that statement about our “elites”.

Indolent
Indolent
March 17, 2022 9:59 am

Five Random Topics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6XvLVAuhgo

Mar 17, 2022
Gonzalo Lira
96.2K subscriber

Excellent presentation. But there’s one major variant missing. The constant talk about nuclear war. Wasn’t nuclear war part of Obama’s 16 year plan? These people have NO scruples or limits.

rosie
rosie
March 17, 2022 10:00 am

I follow a Brother Martin Navarro on twitter, not sure why, he seems sensible.
This morning I noticed a tweet from him about Church Militant which piqued my interest.
Went down a rabbit hole of accusations and counter accusations between various members of the trad Catholic space.
Makes catallaxy stoushes look like teddy bear picnics.

rosie
rosie
March 17, 2022 10:03 am

I have to say, while being no fan of scomo I hope the mean girl saga is very, very bad for Labor, preferably driving people to minor parties.

rosie
rosie
March 17, 2022 10:07 am

Certainly getting a good run on twitter.
‘Read the room’ as twitter morons love to say.

Frank
Frank
March 17, 2022 10:07 am

I hope the mean girl saga is very, very bad for Labor

I hope it is very bad for the mean girls, in particular Labor’s very own Irma Grese, Penny Wong.

Gab
Gab
March 17, 2022 10:08 am

I’m hearing rumours – rumours mind – that oil tankers are being blocked at ports from unloading/discharging their cargo around Australian ports. Doesn’t seem rational. Has anyone heard anything?

rosie
rosie
March 17, 2022 10:08 am
rosie
rosie
March 17, 2022 10:10 am

Me too Frank, her latest interview is on high rotation on twitter.
Not a good look.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 17, 2022 10:13 am

Pattern of Kimberley Kitching hostilities sunk to ‘grotesque, foul’ gibes

‘Extraordinarily disrespectful’: Albanese fires back at ‘mean girls’ branding

Sharri Markson
Investigations Editor
@SharriMarkson
5:13AM March 17, 2022
782 Comments

“If you had children, you might understand,” Penny Wong shot at Kimberley Kitching during a heated meeting attended by senior Labor politicians in 2019.

The group was debating a Greens Senate motion that supported school students who engaged in “civil disobedience” at climate emergency protests.

During the meeting, Kitching argued the motion was an exercise in virtue signalling and that some parents would prefer their children to be in class during school hours.

Wong’s response to Kitching stung.

“Well, if you had children, you might understand why there is a climate emergency,” Wong reportedly said.

Those close to Kitching say it was particularly hurtful because the painful truth was that Kitching had desperately wanted children, she loved children, but had been unable to have any.

“The children thing was particularly grotesque, it was just foul,” one of Kitching’s closest confidants said. “It was brutal.”

Word of the exchange leaked to the ABC but the subsequent media report did not name Wong as the person who uttered the incendiary remark. Wong was only identified in journalist Samantha Maiden’s 2020 book, Party Animals.

The gibe was part of a pattern of hostile behaviour by senior Labor figures towards Kitching that has emerged in the wake of her death from a sudden heart attack on March 10.

The Australian on Wednesday revealed Kitching had been ostracised by her senior Labor colleagues who dumped her from Labor’s tactics committee meetings, froze her out and blocked her from asking regular questions during Question Time.

Labor’s senior leadership team refused to listen to Kitching’s explanation that she had not forewarned Linda Reynolds about the Brittany Higgins rope allegation. Instead, she was wrongly accused of leaking and the Liberal minister’s claim was accepted as gospel.

Labor leader Anthony Albanese also demoted Kitching from her beloved portfolio of assistant spokeswoman for government accountability in January 2021 and she was then removed from the Senate Standing Committee on Finance and Public Administration in October 2021.

Albanese ruled out an investigation into how Kitching was treated in the months before she passed away, claiming it was disrespectful to do so after she had died.

This is despite the fact Kitching had complained about her treatment to deputy Labor leader Richard Marles, specifically in relation to the decision to dump her from the tactics committee meetings.

rosie
rosie
March 17, 2022 10:13 am

Saw odd headlines that the Warne family aren’t happy with Andrews proposal to call the great Southern the S K Warne and want it to be the ‘Shane Warne Stand’

apparently Shane Warne detested Andrews

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 17, 2022 10:14 am

I have to say, while being no fan of scomo I hope the mean girl saga is very, very bad for Labor, preferably driving people to minor parties.

I’m no fan of scomo, either but the alternative is a Labor Government, in coalition with the Greens……

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 17, 2022 10:17 am

That Wong chap usually strikes me as someone who has simply lingered long past his time.

Like Gollum.

In The Lord of the Rings it is described as not being like the ring added life and years, it just took what you had and stretched it out ever thinner.

He had a period where he floated about the top of the septic tank during the KRudd/Gillard years, but he will not be re-emerging into the light. He will just go on and on in the darkness posing stupid riddles to fish.

cohenite
March 17, 2022 10:20 am

The hypocrisy of albo and his pack of mean girls, wong, gallagher and nobody’s girl, keneally, is demonstrated when one remembers their pile on with their abc, when Christian Porter had a claim of sexual assault made against him by a former school mate who had a history of suicide attempts and mental illness. That poor young lady withdrew her claim and then did commit suicide. Against the wishes of her family who wanted the matter to go no further – it couldn’t go anywhere legally because the claim had been withdrawn and she was dead – the abc and albo’s alp hounded Porter from office. Yet now he wants to respect the memory of Kitching by having no discussion about the proven persecution of Kitching by the mean girls because Kitching took a tough stance against China.

In addition, in March 2021 Jenny Macklin released a list of complaints made by alp female staffers against sitting alp federal members, detailing allegations of physical assaults, threats, bullying and rape:

https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/female-labor-staffers-warn-male-mps-they-will-no-longer-keep-their-secrets/news-story/6baf4f0b1d766c24718ff11fee1765c6

This received hardly any media attention and certainly no response from albo. Just who are the sitting members? Does albo know? Is he one of them? The double standard is sickening. The alp concentrates on the Brittany Higgins allegation, which is likely to be not proceeded with because of their actions and media coverage, and Grace Tame because they made complaints against the LNP. More recently we have seen Alan Tudge move on after a consensual affair with a staffer where the staffer apparently wanted the affair to continue and Tudge did not. The abc picked it up and a scorned woman scored a big political scalp. Again from the conservative side.

Expect much more of this double standard if albo and his motley crew get up at the next election.

The issue is being discussed at the Spectator.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 17, 2022 10:21 am

Best thing Aboriginal people could do is get out of the territory altogether.

You are you didn’t leave out the “non”? Although an influx of NT bogans into the rest of Australia, sorry the sovereign states, wouldn’t be all that welcome.

areff
areff
March 17, 2022 10:22 am

Thanks for that ABC link about foxes and cats, Rosie — another opportunity to observe how the ABC’s expert roundsmen are expert only in wearing blinkers when attempting to ‘cover’ stories. Young Nick, who came to ABC journalism after 10 years as a professional ecologist, writes:

The combination of feral cats and foxes is inflicting a staggering annual death toll on Australia’s native wildlife.

Their ability to take down different prey, and their capacity to flourish in different habitats, means they are putting immense pressure on the survival of a number of native animals across a large portion of the country.

And where their diets and range overlap, they’re delivering a one-two punch to some of our most vulnerable species….

It’s the cult of wilderness, which actually doesn’t exist in Australia’s much-altered landscape, at work in his tiny green brain.

Yes, foxes and cats kill small animals, some of them native, but the most recent survey of feral cats’ stomach contents I’ve seen found that centipedes and baby rabbits were two of the top three diet stables. Get rid of cats and Bunnydom rejoices. Get rid of foxes and the pussycats they also eat will sing hosannas.

Blaming cats for species decline is also a neat way of avoiding the real truth: that inadequate cool burning of the bush spawns a tangled ground storey that doesn’t suit them.

About 20 years ago, when they were stringing tall pylons with electricity wire in NE Victoria, there was some concern that the land cleared beneath the wires would be a death zone for native small animals.

Surprise!

It turned out to be the exact opposite. Tiny bushland creatures loved the cleared area and thrived on the border between the slashed tracts and the tangled undergrowth. Surveys found resurgent species all over.

None of the above is to say that cats and foxes aren’t a problem, just that you’ll only ever get a narrow sliver of the full story from reporters with green keyboards.

Frank
Frank
March 17, 2022 10:22 am

He will just go on and on in the darkness posing stupid riddles to fish.

Quietly reliving his salad days of smoking Jay Wetherill for a senate spot.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
March 17, 2022 10:24 am

Good mornink all.
A lovely day, Sun is shinink, birds are singink and the grass is growink.
(I’m practicing my Russian in case they invade)

But I am done with Catallaxy now. I am retreating to watch the cricket, rugby and afl.

rosie
rosie
March 17, 2022 10:27 am

Thank you for that insight Areff, was the article more accurate about feral cats in the more arid north?

Roger
Roger
March 17, 2022 10:28 am

Albanese ruled out an investigation into how Kitching was treated in the months before she passed away, claiming it was disrespectful to do so after she had died.

Even Albo is afraid of the mean girls.

areff
areff
March 17, 2022 10:31 am

Rosie, I don’t have time to find it now, but the report on cats dining sumptuously on centipedes WAS based on the NT.

Struth
March 17, 2022 10:36 am

It’s like chickens being told when to cluck.
Here is a Liberal party that just destroyed Australia, kicked the constitution to the curb, handed it over to Schwab, Soros and Gates, and imprisoned 26 million people in the country, and yet there are people here that will vote Liberal “because at least they are not Labor or the Greens”

Oh and some women were bitchy to each other…..WORLD FIRST.

Now words can kill!

Sticks and stones only break bones.

What insane times we live in.
Emasculated, emotional times.

Kitchens died of the jab is not proven and to be denied until it has.
How dare anyone suggest that!!!
We took the thing too, so it can’t be that!
She died because people called her names while she has been a politician for years.
TOTALLY ACCEPTED.

bons
bons
March 17, 2022 10:41 am

The LDP’s regional tour program is a piece of political brilliance in the bleak contemporary pol landscape.
Showing up in small towns with lots of accompanying PR, glad handing, kissing bubs and calling into the pub overwhelmes any benefits gained by their opponents from sterile TV adds, or occasional appearances outside Wollie’s.
Campbell is a master campaigner – he exudes empathy and straight talk.
What a shame they can’t work together with UAP. Together they could have a real impact in the Bush who are crying out for ‘real people’ candidates.
I saw a comment this morning that “victory will go to the Party that campaigns at the local service station”. Brilliant. In one move overwhelming the meaningless bleating of Canberra tarts, Greens telling people that they have no right to their lifestyle, and anything spruiked by the ABC and Twitter.
Labor/Green have learned nothing from Rudd/Gillard. If you hurt people financially and tell them that their concerns are irrelevant, you lose.

Struth
March 17, 2022 10:42 am

How handy have women been in communist takeovers of the past?
They’ve been used again and again.
Socialism puts emotion before fact.

Look how they used them in Russia and China during their revolutions.
Now we see the jab deaths that can’t be ignored turned into a female victim competition and all about how women are treated.
For somebody with a little bit of knowledge regards world history, how close are we away from a business man being blamed for an obvious female jab death, they twist to “because she could never crack the glass ceiling”?

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 17, 2022 10:45 am

Even Albo is afraid of the mean girls

Albo is a impotent as The Great Man waiting in the corridor waiting for da bruvvas to tell him what was going to happen.

All the signs the Liars are getting ahead of themselves.

Roger
Roger
March 17, 2022 10:46 am

Makes no sense.

Everything a politician says or does needs to be run through the political advantage/disadvantage calculator in order to be understood.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
March 17, 2022 10:49 am

A woman who respects her man does not carry on like you in public.
You disrespect him.

Struth, I deeply respect my husband.
He does not want me here and I am no longer a commenter here.
He has no respect for this site and for its treatment of me.
He has not taken issue with what I say here, just how it is received.
There is nothing wrong with my mental health, although given that I upticked your comment defending yourself for your hurt feelings regarding a comment that Calli had made about you, some might think I have a screw loose somewhere. But shucks, I have always liked you. I’m odd like that. 🙂

Bazinga
Bazinga
March 17, 2022 10:50 am

*trigger alert* Technically, Wong doesn’t have a (biological) child either.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 17, 2022 10:50 am

Has struth been providing media training to Luke Beveridge?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
March 17, 2022 10:51 am

What insane times we live in.

+ ∞

Roger
Roger
March 17, 2022 10:52 am

All the signs the Liars are getting ahead of themselves.

And sub-editors at The Australian. Briefly seen early this morning:

‘Albanese to reshuffle front bench after election win.’

Since adjusted to ‘Labor front bench set for reshuffle …if Labor win the election

Zipster
March 17, 2022 10:53 am

Just how does Kristena keep falling up?

on her back?

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 17, 2022 10:53 am

Clearly children can be acquired. Get with the program.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
March 17, 2022 10:54 am

Sorry I mispelled Kitching upthread. I am tired today.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 17, 2022 10:55 am

Good thread on the current claim that Russians bombed a theatre in Mariupol that was allegedly ‘sheltering’ civilians:

Problem with that is the Russians appear to claim it was an Azov HQ.
I really don’t know either way, but that was a notable report.
What was clear is the Mariupol people had written “CHILDREN” in Russian in the car parks in big white letters either end of the building. Very visible in the sat pics.
Unfortunately the fog of war is insanely foggy right now so I have no idea which side is correct.
Someone dropped a large warhead on it though, and a lot of people appear to’ve died as a result.

Delta A
Delta A
March 17, 2022 10:58 am

Tanya Plibersek has remained uncharacteristically silent on the matter.

Roger
Roger
March 17, 2022 11:01 am

Tanya Plibersek has remained uncharacteristically silent on the matter.

Busy defending the rights of an imaginary hijabi on a Sydney train apparently.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 17, 2022 11:03 am

Yes. Seriously. The 56 upticks on one denigratory comment about me

Lizzie – I like what you write most times. And will miss your incisive comments about history and culture. Do what works for you. Keep in mind though that the uptick thing is fairly meaningless, as I will demonstrate shortly.

bons
bons
March 17, 2022 11:03 am

Funny comment from the Speccie that the great benefit of the invasion to the Russian people is that they no longer have to confront Ikea meatballs.
I’m surprised that Vlad has not simply cranked up all the closed McDonalds ‘under new management’. The prols would love him for it.

Cassie of Sydney
March 17, 2022 11:04 am

“Rogersays:
March 17, 2022 at 11:01 am
Tanya Plibersek has remained uncharacteristically silent on the matter.

Busy defending the rights of an imaginary hijabi on a Sydney train apparently.”

I thought that was Keneally.

P
P
March 17, 2022 11:07 am

Plibersek: ‘Not appropriate’ to politicise Kitching’s death

Shadow Minister for Women Tanya Plibersek says it’s not appropriate to be making Senator Kimberley Kitching’s death into a political issue.

The Australian on Thursday reported Senator Penny Wong told Ms Kitching she wouldn’t understand the climate emergency because she did not have children.

“I don’t know any of the details of that,” Ms Plibersek told Sky News Australia.

“You can’t just keep putting suggestions to me about who said what to whom.

“This is not the time to be focused on trying to make this into a political issue.”

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 17, 2022 11:08 am

It remains unclear if or when Constable Zach Rolfe will be allowed to return to work following his acquittal last Friday, with the officer being issued a direction to take indefinite leave, after being accused of 25 serious breaches of discipline by the top brass which could result in his sacking, according to a letter seen by the NT Independent.

The NT Independent revealed on Sunday that the NT Police executive had notified the union just hours after he was cleared of murder by a Supreme Court jury on Friday that it intended to issue new disciplinary notices on him, which would officially continue his suspension from service.

However, the letter from Deputy Commissioner Murray Smalpage, in absentia of Professional Services Command head Bruce Porter, who went on sudden leave, directed Constable Rolfe to take leave rather than be suspended, which means he will lose annual leave entitlements instead of being paid a normal wage on suspension.

The letter sent to Constable Rolfe by Mr Smalpage, carried Friday’s date, and also banned him from entering a Northern Territory Police, Fire or Emergency Service facility, except in an emergency.

The letter shows new disciplinary notices were not issued, but stated that Constable Rolfe had been issued with a notice of 14 serious breaches of discipline on May 13, 2021, which were served through the NT Police Association.

It’s understood that during his NT Police career, which began in 2016, Constable Rolfe had never been issued a disciplinary notice.

However, after the murder charge, sources said Detective Senior Sergeant Andrew Barram – who was a key witness in the prosecution’s case against Zach Rolfe – went through all of his arrests and body-worn camera footage to re-examine his conduct.

Mr Smalpage said in the letter that Constable Rolfe was given a notice on August 6 last year alleging 11 serious breaches of discipline, after which, on August 10, and September 27, he was issued with a Notice of Charge for breach of discipline.

More – no paywall – at the NT Independent

Roger
Roger
March 17, 2022 11:08 am

I thought that was Keneally.

Plibbers on Q&A, it seems (I don’t watch it).

Maybe KKK has jumped on board. Convenient distraction atm.

Anyway, I hope they catch the ratbag responsible.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 17, 2022 11:10 am

I’ll stop at 12. I think there’s a quicker way for someone more internet savvy than I, but I’m just demonstrating that upticks aren’t necessarily what they seem to be.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
March 17, 2022 11:10 am

Sorry I mispelled Kitching upthread

Hey Struth.
That’s how the lady’s surname is correctly spelled.

(PS Dover – my apologies for trying to link to Kangaroo Court earlier.)

Bazinga
Bazinga
March 17, 2022 11:13 am

Sorry, I seem unable to succumb to mass delusion programs. I’ll admit its to my financial detriment but what can you do?

lotocoti
lotocoti
March 17, 2022 11:13 am

What was clear is the Mariupol people had written “CHILDREN” in Russian in the car parks in big white letters either end of the building.

Perhaps the Russians should write SCHOOL SUPPLIES on their trucks.

Cassie of Sydney
March 17, 2022 11:15 am

“Rogersays:
March 17, 2022 at 11:08 am
I thought that was Keneally.

Plibbers on Q&A, it seems (I don’t watch it).

Maybe KKK has jumped on board. Convenient distraction atm.”

Anyway, I hope they catch the ratbag responsible.”

I remember the night of the Lindt Cafe terrorist siege…and KKeneally came onto Sky and clearly thought that the hijabi train incident was worth a mention because, as you know, we’re all waaaaacist, and in her pea sized progressive brain, a fabricated case of Islamophobia on a train was deemed more disgusting than the people being held hostage and terrorised in the cafe, two of whom later died.

It’s called progressive priorities.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
March 17, 2022 11:15 am

ps Struth. I actually have been physically punched hard in the stomach … by a man I once loved but never married. Long ago now, and he also banged my head against a wall, hard. I ended up in hospital. Taken there by another kindly man who found me slumped on the floor in the corridor alone. A kindly soul whom I ended up living with for twelve months before I went to university.
I don’t tar men with any particular brush.

My life has not always been a matter of plain sailing.

But being emotionally punched in the gut here hurt more.

rosie
rosie
March 17, 2022 11:18 am

Thank you BoN.
56 upticks on this forum is quite extraordinary and I am not at all surprised at the notion someone might be deliberately manipulating tallies when they know someone takes them to heart.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 17, 2022 11:19 am

From Steve Kirsch:
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/the-cdc-knew-in-january-2021-that?s=r

Takeaway line: “My blue pill friends basically say they can’t deal with the implications of the truth, so they’d rather not hear about it or look at it. They live in fear, so I have some compassion about it, but it’s wearing thin.”

lotocoti
lotocoti
March 17, 2022 11:22 am

Pretty sure it wouldn’t be a war crime if the Valiant Lady ate a couple of Sunburn ASMs.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 17, 2022 11:22 am

Kitching died because of mean girls. Gimme a break. She was a politician. An APFPDS round would bounce off them.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
March 17, 2022 11:22 am

Actually, lived with that kindly man at the end of my Day Matric course, and for some of my first year at university. Haven’t thought about that occasion, nor him, for some years now. I left him for a young folk-singer type I met at university, before meeting there my first husband, whom I married during our university years.

For those interested, this month’s Quadrant has a long piece of somewhat stream-of-consciousness writing about how things were back in the days of this obviously old male writer. About a rural life and its peopling, old desolate churches and schoolhouses, and farms long faded away. Very reminiscent for me of my earlier life in the small scale rural farming backblocks of Mt. Druitt in the mid-fifties.

A generation like me, soon to be gone.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 17, 2022 11:23 am

APFDS round. Sorry

rosie
rosie
March 17, 2022 11:24 am

Lizzie
Do you have travel plans?
I hope you do, and come here to share them.
Everyone here loves a good travelogue.

Struth
March 17, 2022 11:27 am

Struth, I deeply respect my husband.
He does not want me here and I am no longer a commenter here.
He has no respect for this site and for its treatment of me.
He has not taken issue with what I say here, just how it is received.
There is nothing wrong with my mental health, although given that I upticked your comment defending yourself for your hurt feelings regarding a comment that Calli had made about you, some might think I have a screw loose somewhere. But shucks, I have always liked you. I’m odd like that.

?

I’ve always liked you as well lizzie, in better times it was fine.

How ever these are no longer better times, and hard things need to be said.
And sometimes women need to be told.

Weak men create hard times.
And we in the west, have let women go nuts, completely insane.
Many weak men have been right there with them.
But a man’s resposibility is not for other men, but for women and children.
And western men have walked away from small daily confrontations, thereby allowing this insanity to unravell the greatest civilisation in the history of mankind.
They considered themselves gods and forgot who their god was.
They put themselves equal to him.
They put themselves above him.

And the sane, left behind become outcasts.

I don’t know if you’re a Christian woman Lizzie, (not just declaring such like notaclue, but in deeds done), and you may not believe there is a god, but the inate sense and freedom Christianity brings cannot be denied.
And it will keep you sane, to just follow it’s teachings whether you believe there is a god or not.
Nobody knows for sure if there is.

Lizzie, time has past, and all your ramblings about this vax and that vax at the start have all been proven nothing but the ramblings of the fearful.
The prize they seek is your mind.
Above all else.
Destroyed.
Once you submit to the jab, they have taken more from you than bodily autonomy.
They own you, every time anyone flashes a green tick.
That effects the mind greatly, and we see it on this blog constantly.
People cannot bring themselves to reconcile what has happened and what they actually submitted to.

I , like you, would love to go back to the sane days of the old cat where we all agreed on much that is now agressively attacked, by the ones we have lost.
It’s not going to happen, but a man must live with himself, and so no matter what, the insanity will be challenged.

I am at piece with myself lizzie, and they don’t have my mind.
I own me.
I have not changed a single thing regarding political theology or what I stand for.
You can do the same.
I’ll probably die before many of the jabbed.
That means nothing.
It’s how I lived, not the length of time.

Lizzie, stop being scared, realise what has happened and don’t let the side theatre of socialism throw you, like all this mean girl bullshit.
In the scheme of things it’s just an example of the sick society we now live in.
Rise above it.
I know you have a better grasp of politics than to fall for this shit.
The fact is, before 2020, most on this blog would have seen it for what it is.

And we haven’t lost yet!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 17, 2022 11:31 am

Perhaps the Russians should write SCHOOL SUPPLIES on their trucks.

They do already, more or less. I’ve seen two or three such videos.
Not much adherence to laws of war by both sides.
It’s shitty.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 17, 2022 11:33 am

Eyrie – yep, you suspect Kitching was capable of giving as good as she got. You don’t spend years in Victoriastani Liars politics otherwise. Hopefully this will be the end of kd wrong though. I’m not holding my breath on that one, (s)he is the proverbial cockroach capable of surviving a nuclear war.

Struth
March 17, 2022 11:36 am

You got to laaaarf …at piece with myself………

I am going faster than I can type.
Many more mistakes above as well I realise.

Stiff shit.

Zipster
March 17, 2022 11:37 am

IMPETUS OF MOP-UP IN MARIUPOL INCREASED DRAMATICALLY
DPR units are advancing rapidly deep into the city, cutting through the enemy. The defences of the AFU and nationalist units are disorganised and overall leadership is lost. AFU units are forced to retreat, reducing their line of defence. There are reports of heavy losses on the part of the AFU. There is a lot of abandoned military equipment, weapons and ammunition. The advancing DPR units are also suffering losses.
Russian Black Sea Fleet ships are supporting the operation to take Mariupol with fire.

Local residents help the DPR forces by pointing out locations and firing positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

Against this backdrop, panic videos from members of nationalist units in Mariupol started pouring into the media space calling on everyone to shout that Mariupol is Ukraine and that the DPR and Russian Federation must urgently stop an attack on Mariupol.
In all likelihood, the fighting for Mariupol will last no more than two days. After that, a large-scale operation is expected to encircle the Ukrainian eastern front in Donbass. An additional contingent of the Russian Defence Ministry is being sent from Russia for this purpose. There are reports of a massive movement of military equipment in central Russia.

Gab
Gab
March 17, 2022 11:41 am

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
March 17, 2022 at 11:10 am
I’ll stop at 12. I think there’s a quicker way for someone more internet savvy than I, but I’m just demonstrating that upticks aren’t necessarily what they seem to be.

Just tried and I can only give one tick to any comment. And if I want my tick removed, I can’t.
Can’t do more than 1 and not sure how others can do it and had no idea that that was a thing that could be done. *sigh*

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 17, 2022 11:42 am

Albanese ruled out an investigation into how Kitching was treated in the months before she passed away, claiming it was disrespectful to do so after she had died.

Makes no sense. It’s like saying you won’t investigate someone’s suspicious death out of respect for the departed.

Makes perfect sense (if you aren’t a properly functioning human).

An investigation would be highly disrespectful to the ALP ‘Morrison the Misogynist – just ask Grace’ strategy. And Ms Kitchen wouldn’t have wanted that

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 17, 2022 11:45 am

I am always suspicious when there is seemingly an outbreak of humanity in politics.

Struth
March 17, 2022 11:50 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 17, 2022 11:55 am

Zipster – That’s very funny. Southfront has been getting increasingly excitable. As a result I’m finding them less useful (I read their site most days, including a couple hours ago). The other sites ranging from centrist to UKR-fanboi have Mariupol still held pretty firmly by the Ukrainians. Another Russian maj gen lost his life in Mariupol last night. That’s not to say the Russians won’t take the place – they need it for the most basic saleable victory as I’ve said a few times now (it being essential to the Crimea to Russia corridor). However the Russians are very reluctant to commit to urban warfare, understandably given how stretched they are, so it may take them a while to crack the defenses.

Struth
March 17, 2022 11:58 am

While you were doing what you are told and hating Penny Wong and the mean girls,
1 hour ago.

Ukraine just silently announced it’s the first country to implement the WEF’s ‘Great Reset’ by setting up a Social Credit Application combining Universal Basic Income (UBI), a Digital Identity & a Vaccine Passport all within their Diia app.

What?
No!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 17, 2022 11:59 am

Sigh.

I mean this in the nicest way possible.

You were contributary, KD, and I had thought better of you and several other men of skill and intellect. You were the first to hop in last night too with another piece of snide and now your ‘it’s just a blog’ comment above

It. Is. Just. A. Blog.

An A grade blog nonetheless, and Australia’s leading mode-of-transport/protest song/watch appreciation forum, but a blog. It is not (or shouldn’t be) and extension of your very being.

People who are ‘bullied to death’ by the internet invariably have a number of dogs that weren’t barking beforehand. To blame people you’ve never met and who you are not invested in for medical events is just silly.

Further, I am struggling to reconcile the additional mayonnaise of ‘strong womxn resilient and leathery’ suddenly becoming ‘internet criticism or pisstaking is especially bad for we women because especially fragile’.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 17, 2022 12:00 pm

*an extension of*

bons
bons
March 17, 2022 12:01 pm

The NT Govt’s inept behaviour is so blatant it is hard to imagine that they believe that their blundering antics will succeed. The dumb is memorable.
Whoever the Government hired to advise on hole deepening has been outstanding, for Rolfe.
It is like watching a B Grade Netflix conspiracy movie.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 17, 2022 12:01 pm

‘I just want to tell you good luck, and we’re all counting on you.’

Dot
Dot
March 17, 2022 12:04 pm

Ukraine just silently announced it’s the first country to implement the WEF’s ‘Great Reset’ by setting up a Social Credit Application combining Universal Basic Income (UBI), a Digital Identity & a Vaccine Passport all within their Diia app.

Citation needed!

Winston Smith
March 17, 2022 12:07 pm

Cohenite:

BRS is exactly the sort of guy I want defending the country; the rest are faggots, lickspittles and nanny-boys. This is why they are targeting BRS: he is a son-of-a bitch who takes no prisoners.

That bears repeating, Cohenite.
So I shall:

BRS is exactly the sort of guy I want defending the country; the rest are faggots, lickspittles and nanny-boys. This is why they are targeting BRS: he is a son-of-a bitch who takes no prisoners.

Take me to the brig – I want to see the REAL marines!

Remember when the recruiting officers wanted only alcoholic, sex maniacs, with discipline issues for the army?

Me and the recruiting Sergeant were jumping up and down, screaming “KILL! KILL! KILL! and he clapped me on the shoulder and said “You’re our boy!”

The past is another country, they do things differently there.
🙂

rosie
rosie
March 17, 2022 12:10 pm

How does one ‘silently announce’ anyhow?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 17, 2022 12:12 pm

Impact is unfathomable’: Doctors join call to raise age of criminal responsibility
By Dana Daniel and Cameron Gooley
March 17, 2022 — 5.00am

The Royal Australasian College of Physicians says the age of criminal responsibility must be raised to 14 years to end the jailing of mostly Indigenous primary-aged children, warning incarceration is harming their mental health.

The college is part of a Close the Gap campaign, which will release a report on Thursday calling for urgent investment in community-led Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander health services.

Professor Ngiare Brown, a Yuin nation woman and National Mental Health Commissioner, said about 600 children under the age of 14 were jailed every year despite “substantial evidence showing the detrimental and long-term effects” on physical and mental health.

“The fact that Indigenous children account for sixty-five per cent of youth incarcerations is a harrowing statistic,” Professor Brown, who chairs the RACP’s Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Health Committee, said. “The human impact of this is unfathomable.”

RACP President Professor John Wilson called on governments to follow the recommendations of the 2021 Close the Gap report to take a preventative and rehabilitative approach.

“We are calling for all Australian states and territories to address the incarceration of Indigenous children and raise the age of criminal responsibility to 14 years in line with the best health evidence,” Professor Wilson said.

Dr Mick Creati, a paediatrician at Melbourne’s Royal Children’s Hospital, said vulnerable children with histories of trauma were being jailed for impulsive behaviour, often linked to undiagnosed intellectual disabilities.

Cheryl Axleby, a Narungga woman and co-chair of Change the Record, said governments “will continue to fail to Close The Gap so long as they lock our children away behind bars and take away their futures”.

Under the new National Agreement on Closing the Gap announced last year, governments across Australia have committed to reducing the incarceration rate of Indigenous 10 to 17-year-olds by 30 per cent in the next decade.

The federal government does not support raising the age of responsibility from 10 to 14 and the opposition is taking a cautious approach to the issue close to an election, fearing a law-and-order scare campaign.

Only the ACT has announced plans to raise the age to 14, moving alone after other states and territories failed to agree on a national approach, despite a meeting of attorneys-general in November issuing a statement suggesting states would work towards raising the age to 12.

NSW Attorney-General Mark Speakman on Wednesday told a budget estimates hearing no decision had been made on whether the state would raise the age.

A Queensland parliamentary committee on Tuesday rejected a Greens bill that would raise the age of criminal responsibility to 14.

Phil Thompson, Liberal National MP for the key federal seat of Herbert in far-north Queensland, on Monday told Sky’s Chris Kenny there was a “crime crisis” in Townsville where locals were “living in fear” amid burglaries and car thefts.

“We’ve heard just recently that federal Labor have come out in support of raising the age of criminal responsibility,” Mr Thompson said.

“We need to have strong laws that protect people. The state government and every government needs to meet the community expectation … get these young criminals off the street, punish the bad behaviour.”

The opposition has not promised to support raising the age to 14, but shadow attorney-general Mark Dreyfus said it was “a sad fact that a significant number of children held in detention are Indigenous” and a Labor federal government would spend $79 million on justice reinvestment.

“Criminal law is primarily a matter for the states, although Labor believes the Commonwealth can and should take a leadership role to achieve a national, uniform age of criminal responsibility,” Mr Dreyfus said.

A spokeswoman for Indigenous Australians Minister Ken Wyatt said all levels of government could “contribute to Closing the Gap by working together to recognise and address the factors behind the health gap” and the federal government had committed more than $1.1 billion to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander health.

Winston Smith
March 17, 2022 12:12 pm

srr:

He also laid into bishops who kept the faithful away from the sacraments during the pandemic, who let pro-abortion politicians commit sacrilege by receiving Holy Communion, and who have failed to adequately teach the faithful right from wrong.

+++++

bons
bons
March 17, 2022 12:13 pm

Fun article on Lotus Eaters engaging in A Grade gratuitous sneering at Bercow and his awful missus.
Seems some of his treasonous behaviour can be attributed to Mrs (who to be honest is a looker) who is a deeply committed Labour functionary and candidate.
Lotus couldn’t resist the delightful knife twist of mentioning that she had been a ‘house guest’ on Big Brother and was the first to be ejected.
Arrr, the pleasure of putting the boot into someone who is down.
The problem being that the, in their words, “mutant rat man” doesn’t accept that he is down.

Struth
March 17, 2022 12:16 pm

It’s been a long while since I gave KD an uptick, but I did above.

Struth
March 17, 2022 12:20 pm

We in the west aren’t allowed to deviate from the party line (The WEF)
We are not trusted to see things and work things out for ourselves. We may read misinformation.
A more communist word could never be spoken.
Misinformation.
We are not the free west .
Neither is Russia.
Russia only appears bad to those that still think we live in the free west.
Which any sane person knows we are not.

We have a war between globalist tyrannical commos and the communists of Russia.

What you have to work out is which one is more dangerous to you.

John H.
John H.
March 17, 2022 12:21 pm

dover0beachsays:
March 17, 2022 at 10:38 am
Albanese ruled out an investigation into how Kitching was treated in the months before she passed away, claiming it was disrespectful to do so after she had died.

Makes no sense. It’s like saying you won’t investigate someone’s suspicious death out of respect for the departed.

He is avoiding almost certain bad PR. The internal machinations of political parties are far more dishonest, accusatory, and vicious than that which occurs on any blog.

It’s moot because nothing can be proved. Even if she was highly stressed that doesn’t make it the cause of death. Gazillions of people are highly stressed and don’t drop dead on the spot.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 17, 2022 12:21 pm

Not much adherence to laws of war by both sides.
It’s shitty.

It is ALWAYS shitty. That Russian General is only a possible, BoN.
The thing this shows is :
The Generals are out there with their troops.
The Russians are serious and are prepared to take casualties and have the WILL to use their armed forces.
You can have the best equipped and numerous armed forces but if you are prepared to take casualties you won’t have the will to use them.

dopey
dopey
March 17, 2022 12:21 pm

Areff at his very best….’reporters with green keyboards.’

lotocoti
lotocoti
March 17, 2022 12:23 pm

it may take them a while to crack the defenses.

Why risk a bloody nose just to make the map look neat?
Once they’re cut off, leave them to either wither on the vine
or try their hand at breaking out.

duncanm
duncanm
March 17, 2022 12:27 pm

Zipstersays:
March 17, 2022 at 12:22 pm
Yuval Noah Harari (WEF Advisor) Says “Freedom Is A Myth”

I can’t work out if he’s evil or just viewing reality the way Aldous Huxley did.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 17, 2022 12:28 pm

Penny Wong to attend Labor fundraiser in Northern Territory on day of Kimberley Kitching’s funeral

EXCLUSIVE
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Penny Wong is planning to attend a Labor fundraiser in the Northern Territory instead of Labor MP Kimberley Kitching’s funeral.

The Labor Senator had told media she was uncertain whether she would be able to attend Kitching’s funeral, to be held on Monday in Melbourne, as she currently had an “engagement in the Northern Territory with some First Nations communities”.

The Australian can reveal Wong is headlining a Labor fundraiser, held in the marginal seat of Lingiari, on the same day.

The fundraiser is titled “An evening with Senator Penny Wong” and tickets range from $80 to $120 a head for the event at an Alice Springs cocktail bar,
“Penny Wong In Conversation”, to be held next Tuesday, will raise money for the re-election campaign of Solomon MP Luke Gosling. Tickets are being sold for up to $150.

The seat, which has a margin of 5.5 per cent, is potentially considered in play with the retirement of Labor MP Warren Snowden

On Tuesday, Wong appears on invitation for a second Labor fundraiser, this time $150 a ticket.

The event description is: “A fundraiser for the Solomon re-election campaign”.

Wong will be in conversation with the former Chief Minister Clare Martin to “discuss current international affairs and Australia’s place on the world stage”.

Wong was questioned by Ten Eyewitness News during a doorstop on Wednesday about whether she was planning to attend Kitching’s funeral, which is on Monday afternoon in Melbourne.

“Oh look, I will look at whether I can. I currently have an engagement in the Northern Territory with some First Nations communities,” she said.

“An evening with Senator Penny Wong” I’d rather have my scrotum sandblasted.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
March 17, 2022 12:28 pm

The NT Govt’s inept behaviour is so blatant it is hard to imagine that they believe that their blundering antics will succeed. The dumb is memorable.

I think it’s becoming clear that the NT Govt in its haste to get a scalp didn’t do due diligence on who they were going after. They thought it was some poor little constable with limited means to defend himself who they could crucify through the process, when in fact he had resources through his family to mount an exceptional defence and in turn show the NT Govt up for the idiots that they are.

rosie
rosie
March 17, 2022 12:28 pm

True John H
It’s just one of a range of possibilities.
Unless you are all seeing, all knowing.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 17, 2022 12:29 pm

The curious thing about sheltering scenario is the presence of well-used humanitarian corridors not being voluntarily used by those in the theatre.

Dover – The problem with those scenarios is (a) the parents of the children would certainly not put them in a building above an Azov Bn HQ, unless made to, and I haven’t seen signs of that. Putting one’s kids on top of a giant target isn’t normally something parents would do, and it would be very hard to hide the Azov orcs from the parents. Then (b) the humanitarian corridors all ended in Russian controlled territory. So I agree with you that Russophile locals would take the opportunity to get out of Dodge, but the Ukrainian aligned people certainly wouldn’t. Which seems to be most of them.

Kamil Galeev (who is partisan UKR) has a long thread today covering the time period from 2014 to 2022. He argues that the Russian approach in the east of Ukraine, and the poor control of the Donesk area potentates in particular caused a lot of the people in Eastern Ukraine to become quite hostile to Russia. He has a point. The Russians do not appear to’ve spent their time well in those years to win hearts and minds. The cost is being levied now as many Russian speakers in Eastern Ukraine seem to be siding with Kiev over Moscow.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 17, 2022 12:34 pm

Why risk a bloody nose just to make the map look neat?

The bosses back home demand a quicker resolution.

Always happens, particularly in this age of instantaneous, long-range communication.

The phenomenon is not called the ‘Thousand Mile Screwdriver’ for nothing…

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 17, 2022 12:35 pm

“Oh look, I will look at whether I can. I currently have an engagement in the Northern Territory with some First Nations communities,” she said.

At least Benny won’t have to worry about Arnold Walker attacking her with scissors.

Helen
Helen
March 17, 2022 12:36 pm

CXRIQwerty newsletter just landed in my in box

Could you get any woker?

Gerbil warmening, mastygras, (or nastygras) dont spray your mask with sanitiser to extend its life – WTF? , Australia’s greatest challenge – a pic of cows grazing on pasture with stubble in the foreground .

Defund it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 17, 2022 12:38 pm

“An evening with Senator Penny Wong” I’d rather have my scrotum sandblasted.
That’s extra.

John H.
John H.
March 17, 2022 12:38 pm

dover0beachsays:
March 17, 2022 at 12:27 pm
I get that John H but he could have just said, No.

Dover Beach I didn’t see the interview. At this proto election stage I am avoiding watching interviews with politicians. I must say though that I think you are so world weary as to not expect a politician to provide a concise response. (:

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 17, 2022 12:42 pm

Bruce, what did you use, VPN?

Dover – It’s a deep dark secret. 😀

I suspect if there are upticks to a positive comment then they are real, but multiple upticks of a negative comment I would be suspicious of.

(Email me anytime, I’m happy to tell a blog owner who I am grateful to.)

Gab
Gab
March 17, 2022 12:46 pm

dover0beachsays:
March 17, 2022 at 12:15 pm
Bruce, what did you use, VPN?

LOL I feel better that I’m not the only one who doesn’t know!

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 17, 2022 12:47 pm

However, after the murder charge, sources said Detective Senior Sergeant Andrew Barram – who was a key witness in the prosecution’s case against Zach Rolfe – went through all of his arrests and body-worn camera footage to re-examine his conduct.

You mean all the Bodycams that were ‘turned off’ and the vision that was ‘lost’ just before it was needed?

Roger
Roger
March 17, 2022 12:50 pm

The Royal Australasian College of Physicians says the age of criminal responsibility must be raised to 14 years to end the jailing of mostly Indigenous primary-aged children, warning incarceration is harming their mental health.

No doubt.

I understand their mental health isn’t that good before they’re incarcerated either, but we’re not allowed to talk about removing them from their dysfunctional family settings.

Better to kill them slowly with “kindness” then offend the conscience of the chattering classes.

Indolent
Indolent
March 17, 2022 12:56 pm

From Steve Kirsch:
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/the-cdc-knew-in-january-2021-that?s=r

Takeaway line: “My blue pill friends basically say they can’t deal with the implications of the truth, so they’d rather not hear about it or look at it. They live in fear, so I have some compassion about it, but it’s wearing thin.”

People keep asking for proof. Here it is in black and white. And don’t forget, it’s estimated that only about 10% of cases are reported to VAERS. Just this one side effect caused a 1000% increase in cases, and this was known in January or February of last year. As previously suggested, we are being governed by criminals.

Roger
Roger
March 17, 2022 12:57 pm

So Penny Wong thinks a party fund raiser takes precedence over a female collegue’s funeral.

Isn’t that…disrespectful?

After all, the fund raiser can be rebooked.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 17, 2022 12:57 pm

and I had thought better of you and several other men of skill and intellect.

KD, I think someone is coming onto you.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 17, 2022 12:58 pm

I understand their mental health isn’t that good before they’re incarcerated either, but we’re not allowed to talk about removing them from their dysfunctional family settings.

That’s the inconvenient truth of the issue, isn’t it?

Oh come on
Oh come on
March 17, 2022 1:02 pm

How the media astroturfs a modern-day Churchill

Ukrainian president Volodomyr Zelenskyy has remade himself again as a wartime president in khaki

Let’s not forget that this man is a wholly unimpressive figure and the extent to which he is genuinely in control of his country is highly questionable. The only reason he has any stature whatsoever is due to the fact that the Western media uncritically parrots his – at best unverifiable, at worst patently absurd – claims about Ukrainian military and paramilitary successes against the Russian military, whilst endlessly amplifying his silly posturing as a heroic resistance leader.

With that said, he’s a pawn (as is Ukraine) – it’s hard to be hold too much against him. If anything, I’m concerned for his safety. He’s being used by the Western alliance, he’s being the hero they need right now. However, as the military situation continues to slide towards a Ukrainian rout, the role he’s playing is increasingly untenable. Is it so far-fetched that his Western backers decide it would be best for the hero to die a hero’s death in order to lay the foundations for a future insurgency? It’s not as though engineering such a thing would be beneath the US intelligence community.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 17, 2022 1:04 pm

Cool! The James Webb space telescope has now aligned all 18 of its mirrors.

Space telescope’s image of star gets photobombed by galaxies (16 Mar)

The image released Wednesday from the James Webb Space Telescope is a test shot—not an official science observation—to see how its 18 hexagonal mirrors worked together for a single coordinated image taken 1 million miles (1.6 million kilometers) away from Earth. Officials said it worked better than expected.

The very first images a few weeks ago had 18 separate images of that star, now they’re all lined up. The finest thing is the field of view is so precise and so narrow that it has the alignment star in the centre, but no other Milky Way stars in the view. Hence all the galaxies in the background.

cohenite
March 17, 2022 1:05 pm

“The fact that Indigenous children account for sixty-five per cent of youth incarcerations is a harrowing statistic,” Professor Brown, who chairs the RACP’s Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Health Committee, said. “The human impact of this is unfathomable.

The human impact is certainly unfathomable, especially amongst the victims of these young ferals. Kumanjayi Walker is typical: a terrible upbringing, mental issues because his mum was a drunk, and a history of violent crime which contributed to the departure of the nurses at the medical centre where Walker was shot and possibly contributed to his own death because no one was at the medical centre.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 17, 2022 1:10 pm

Ukrainian president Volodomyr Zelenskyy has remade himself again as a wartime president in khaki

A long way from playing a piano with his penis on television.
Not since Reagan’s chimp movie have I seen anything like it.

Roger
Roger
March 17, 2022 1:10 pm

That’s the inconvenient truth of the issue, isn’t it?

If the liberal elite ever loses its control of the narrative, their abandonment of indigenous children to sexual abuse and neglect in levels of squalor rarely seen in the third world will be seen as one of the darkest stains on their legacy, such as it is.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
March 17, 2022 1:10 pm

I see the orthodontist’s failure will not investigate the case of actual workplace bullying by three Labor women, aka suspected ‘Komrade Killers’ and of course Richard Marles, Labor’s Lawman did absolutely nothing when he knew about it – how very gentlemanly and what heroes. Labor always venal, vicious and mendacious and that’s just the women.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
March 17, 2022 1:10 pm

the inate sense and freedom Christianity brings cannot be denied.

Struth, in my recent memoir published in Jan/Feb in Quadrant Magazine, I reflected experientially on the sources of today’s contemporary culture and its marital pairings gone astray. Then I told how I met my darling second husband and how we both knew, willed into being, a love that could endure. In that article I commented that we chose for our Registry Office legal binding together in marriage the fine words of the old Church of England marriage ceremony to ‘plight our truth’ until death, and that I said ‘obey’. My husband is and always has been head of our household. We both hold fast to a Christian heritage. He was even a chorister. I just went to Sunday School to get me out of the way.

Currently I am endeavouring to save a small church in Engalande. A Christian church has stood on this site, sacred since the Bronze Age, since at least the 9th century. It is mentioned in the Norman Conquest Domesday Book. The current church although rebuilt in a constant repairing over centuries has retained many C14th and C15th features. It also contains the graves of my direct ancestors, from the late 16th century onwards, who lived in the adjacent manor house around Shakespeare’s day. That was until the family associations with the church and manor were lost in the early C19th, with some family members including my own lineal ancestors falling on hard times in the C19th. One daughter ended up with an illegitimate child in a workhouse and generation later a son was transported to Tasmania for theft (thus producing a familial diaspora in Australia and New Zealand with whom I am in contact re saving the familial church). The daughter in the workhouse named her child after the ancestor whose grave is embedded in the floor before the nave of this church. The memory prevailed, although the money and social position did not. Even my father knew of the memory of it, of our name and its meaning.

Our name is long and very foreign-sounding. It was originally French and referred to an eponymous Gallo-Roman villa that has now given our name to a northern French town. As a child at school in an earlier Australia I longed to be simply called Smith to help me fit in. I remember my first day at school in Australia when I was four. They wrote our names on a strip of paper stuck onto the top of your desk and an early task was to copy it out. My full name covered over half the desk. So daunting in 1946 amongst the Jones, Smiths, O’Haras, Morgans and Masons.

I think the loss of so many old churches in the UK, symbols of the culture that generated what is known as England, is a scandal and a crying shame. Same goes for the old churches here, recalled so poignantly by a writer called Julian Woods, in the latest Quadrant, as a dying part of old rural Australia. Time that was and should not be forgoten, at least in its form, left decaying to a final dust.

Bruce, my husband also tried to assuage my feelings by saying the upticks could be manipulated. He should know, with his PhD in computer science. I thought he was just trying to comfort me and I was too raw for comfort. While upticks were truly brutal, the comments themselves also hurt. Seems he was, as ever, right. The upticks may not be real. I will tell him so. If they can be so manipulated then they should be fixed, or abandonned as meaningless. I favor the latter.

Rosie, I am going to do battle for the church in the UK in May. I may drop a line about that for auld lang syne. Or perhaps not. I am not convinced that the Old Catallaxy ways of sharing things, especially travels, still have traction. Bruce of WA, one of the old Cat’s travellers, I was sorry to hear you may have some health strife and wish you well with it all.

Helen Davidson (nmrn)
Helen Davidson (nmrn)
March 17, 2022 1:12 pm

The Australian can reveal Wong is headlining a Labor fundraiser, held in the marginal seat of Lingiari, on the same day.

The fundraiser is titled “An evening with Senator Penny Wong” and tickets range from $80 to $120 a head for the event at an Alice Springs cocktail bar,
“Penny Wong In Conversation”, to be held next Tuesday, will raise money for the re-election campaign of Solomon MP Luke Gosling.

Why is an event in Alice Springs, in the Lingiari electorate, raising money for the candidate in the Solomon electorate, 1500 kms away?

I wonder what Marion Scrymjour, the Lingiari candidate, thinks about that?

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 17, 2022 1:18 pm

The Royal Australasian College of Physicians says the age of criminal responsibility must be raised to 14 years to end the jailing of mostly Indigenous primary-aged children, warning incarceration is harming their mental health

But we can balance it by lowering the age of sexual consent, vaccination and ‘gender reassignment’ no?

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
March 17, 2022 1:20 pm

I wonder what Marion Scrymjour, the Lingiari candidate, thinks about that?

She won’t care, she’ll just do as the Labor Boys Club tells her and SHCH

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 17, 2022 1:20 pm

What signs would you be expecting to see here?

C’mon Dover. Parents are not stupid. If an Azov battalion HQ was in the basement they’d know of it. And no way would they put their kids on top of it. Such things aren’t possible to hide in a place the size of Mariupol, which is about the size of my town.

It’s not the case that there are only corridors with Russian destinations

Sure. I just gave you the citation, from a neutral source. Of course the Russians don’t mind having people flee to Russian controlled areas. They’re convenient hostages. The kerfuffle about the American astronaut on the ISS is a fun story. First the Russians said they would abandon him. But after Elon said he could help they changed tune. Now they have offered him a ride back to Earth. Which, curiously, will land in Russia. Hostages are always useful, as the Iranians just demonstrated today.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 17, 2022 1:21 pm

Dover

Makes no sense. It’s like saying you won’t investigate someone’s suspicious death out of respect for the departed.

More a case of not investigating out of AnAl’s respect for his own shaky position?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 17, 2022 1:22 pm

Doverlord,

A cracking updated meme, if I may say.

And funny because it’s true.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 17, 2022 1:26 pm

I doubt somehow that there will be many Azov prisoners. The Russians will bottle them up then do what happened to the Tamil Tigers. The Sri Lankan Army didn’t take prisoners there.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
March 17, 2022 1:27 pm

So there are two questions you must ask when someone dies at a relatively young age.
1. Did they have something on the Clintons?
2. What jabs had they had?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 17, 2022 1:29 pm

Reading John Curtin’s biography – Curtin often asked his driver, Ray Tracey, to pull over, and give someone a lift – mothers with small children and the shopping, or older people waiting at bus stops.

Hard to imagine many Prime Ministers since then doing anything similar, isn’t it?

Oh come on
Oh come on
March 17, 2022 1:34 pm

Wait – people actually care about ‘upticks’?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 17, 2022 1:35 pm

As for the bombing of the Mariupol Drama Theatre it is the problem of war and agreements made during them. As soon as you have an agreement that someplace marked with a red cross or somesuch insignia is off limits there will be a temptation to use that for tactical benefit. Whereupon the other side will always suspect their opponent is doing exactly that. I’ve given photo examples of such things going on already, and given the hatred on both sides the degree of trust is rapidly approaching zero.

A fictional example of this is Footfall by Niven and Pournelle. An agreement was made that buildings marked with a red cross would not be attacked, which the aliens respected. So as you might expect the humans then built their Orion battleship under a big red cross. They got away with it in the story and won.

That sort of thing is how the gloves come off. The gloves are perilously close to coming off in Ukraine due to the actions of both sides.

Bluey
Bluey
March 17, 2022 1:37 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
March 17, 2022 at 1:29 pm
Reading John Curtin’s biography – Curtin often asked his driver, Ray Tracey, to pull over, and give someone a lift – mothers with small children and the shopping, or older people waiting at bus stops.

Hard to imagine many Prime Ministers since then doing anything similar, isn’t it?

I find it hard to picture pretty much any modern politician doing that.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 17, 2022 1:38 pm

Jussie Smollett, CONVICTED of a felony hate crime hoax, released from jail.

Amazing. Just amazing. What was it, three days? Lefties are special people.

bons
bons
March 17, 2022 1:42 pm

Helen’s argument that no real progress can be made for the indig kids until the communities are reformed or shut down is true but it will take a horrible event before any pollie develops the courage to try.
As a deputy head, my wife agreed to foster a kid from a Daly River outstation for a term as a precursor to him going into the school boarding house. There were a lot of these kids brought down (Gillard I think).
He was a nice kid, typically shy, uncertain, homesick and quite scared.
The poor little bugger had no chance. Zero social skills, very limited academic background, no city life skills as you would expect. Despite Daly River’s footy fanaticism this kid didn’t even play because he was from the bush.
Everyone was relieved when he didn’t return from his first trip home. He had to be escorted of course. Picked up in a ute at Daly strip and never heard of again.
The whole idea was insane.

JC
JC
March 17, 2022 1:43 pm

Russia offering Austrian-style neutrality as an option. Only to find Zelensky quickly rejecting that. Why admit the first and reject the second? To what end? Pretty obvious the US vetoed the second.

Oh maybe because Russia is bogged down, Putin is killing off his generals ( 4 now) because they are in fact losing badly. Russia not only has to move into the cities but they also need to hold them. Russia is totally fucked. They will not win the war and their economy is quickly going to disintegrate.

I’m still at the loss why you’re throwing rocks at the Ukraine president and remaining silent about the aggressor.

Struth
March 17, 2022 1:43 pm

Amazing. Just amazing. What was it, three days? Lefties are special people.

Just long enough for Martyr status.

miltonf
miltonf
March 17, 2022 1:44 pm

Pretty obvious the US vetoed the second.
Jussie Smollett, CONVICTED of a felony hate crime hoax, released from jail. Jan. 6 perps, not convicted, pretrial detention. Still in jail.

who needs enemies with a country like this for a friend?

Bruce in WA
March 17, 2022 1:45 pm

Bruce of WA, one of the old Cat’s travellers, I was sorry to hear you may have some health strife and wish you well with it all.

Thanks, Lizzie. See the cardiologist today. She’ll be apples!

JC
JC
March 17, 2022 1:45 pm

Zelensky rejected the offer because he believes Ukraine will up winning the war. Perhaps the modern NATO weapons are hurting the Russians very badly.

Oh come on
Oh come on
March 17, 2022 1:51 pm

JC, tune out Bloomberg News’s Ukraine war coverage. It’s leading you badly astray.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 17, 2022 1:54 pm

Thanks, Lizzie. See the cardiologist today. She’ll be apples!

All the best, Bruce.

miltonf
miltonf
March 17, 2022 1:54 pm

The whole Ukraine propaganda tsunami has a very yuckie Hollywood/Dubya-Washington War Machine aura about it.

JC
JC
March 17, 2022 1:55 pm

If the Russians don’t know how to effectively manage tanks + grunts in a protective unit and it appears they really have no idea, then they are rooted. I read recently, that the Americans have this pretty much sorted out in terms of how to manage troops and heavy armor in combination. Tanks are very vulnerable to NATO’s missiles.

JC
JC
March 17, 2022 1:58 pm

JC, tune out Bloomberg News’s Ukraine war coverage. It’s leading you badly astray.

I’ve not read a single page, nor watched anything on Bloomberg about this war. Russia can win the war but it will have to destroy the cities and everything in its wake. They could, but they won’t.

OCO, why are the peace terms coming from the Russian side? Do you know? Is this how a winning side acts?

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