3,064 thoughts on “Open Thread – Weekend 19 Mar 2022”

  1. Sancho Panzersays:
    March 22, 2022 at 9:29 pm
    Baba.
    I hope you are not suggesting Ansett would have been a Phoenix if it wasn’t for the liquidators lead in it’s saddle bags.
    It was a fuck up on roller skates for years.

    They were carrying about 3,000 more employees than Qantas had for its domestic operations. Assuming even only an average of $20,000 total costs per employee in those days’ dollars, that’s $60 million a year extra costs. In only a decade they’d be carrying $600 million more of debt.

    A friend of mine worked at Arthur Robs and did some transaction for Ansett where she and others did so well that as a reward Ansett gave them lifetime membership of the Golden Wing lounge. Too bad it imploded two or three years later.


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  2. Ed Casesays:
    March 22, 2022 at 10:00 pm
    No, only their tanks. I was there at the time.

    There was no Russian Government between 1917 and 1991.

    Gorbachev might have disagreed. In a Freudian slip of the tongue during an interview, he once referred to the “Russian, that is to say, Soviet” people.


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  3. Dotsays:
    March 22, 2022 at 10:02 pm
    Australia needs to defederalise and create two nations.

    Just two?

    You posted a long list of proposed constitutional and administrative changes for Australia yesterday. Its problem is that it is a very long list. In the spirit of Lloyd George’s comment about Woodrow Wilson’s Fourteen points, is it possible to select the ten most important? The same number as the Good Lord.


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  4. The BAe146’s weren’t the half of it, they were constant shoppers and regularly duchessed at international air show trade events, so they ended up with a ridiculously mixed fleet. That said, the receivers were still generating good income out of the vast array of spare parts and training slots on a comprehensive collection of flight simulators a decade after Ansett ceased flying. If nothing else, the employees were eventually made almost whole on their entitlements, so there’s that.


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  5. No one, especially Sancho, wants to recall how much white knights Korda and Mentha paid themselves at the expense of Ansett creditors and shareholders.


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  6. DoverLord,

    I missed the comment containing Dot’s proposed reforms.

    Any chance of it (with his permission) being made a guest post?

    Could start a very useful discussion.


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  7. I sincerely hope this bloke in Katherine gets to walk (the NT News):

    A KATHERINE man allegedly told police a bullet fired into the chest of another man was a ‘warning shot’ for the reported intruder.

    Kim Jamie Keith Kellett, 38, has been charged with murder and manslaughter after the shooting death of a 26-year-old Indigenous man at his home, near the Cutta Cutta Caves 30km southeast of Katherine.

    The NT News has been told that Kellett allegedly told police he was attempting to scare off a man who had startled his wife in the early hours of last Thursday morning.

    It is understood Kellett, his wife Danielle and two children, aged two and seven, were at their home at the ranger station on the Cutta Cutta Caves Nature Park when a man was found in their home.

    And:

    It will be alleged a call to police overheard the couple warning emergency services to rush over to their home as they would shoot the 26-year-old man.

    Entirely fair enough.

    Eighteen minutes after the initial triple-0 call, police arrived at the rural property. Police will allege a deceased man was found lying on his back in the driveway, 33m away from the Kellett’s home.

    It is understood the man was found naked with the exception of a pair of dark coloured boxers stuffed with grass and a single bullet wound at the top of his chest.

    Kellett allegedly told police he only intended to fire a warning shot.

    He reportedly told officers that after he chased the man out of his home the 26-year-old shaped up to him as if to fight, but then turned and ran away.

    It will be alleged Kellett told police he went back inside when he heard further noises outside and grabbed his gun and went to the corner of the house and fired a single shot.

    On the face of it, this looks ordinary. Having said that, if you weren’t there at the time it’s only speculation. Plenty of defences left for this bloke, and it’s a long way from being over.


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  8. We walked over to a seafood restaurant tonight. Google said it was open till ten but at 8.45 they shook a sorry head. Deciding that it would be similar everywhere on Hobart’s darkening waterfront, we opted for the empty Chinese with the open sign. Delightful people but sadly their Tassie scallops were soggy, unstructured and tasteless.

    Still, they were more digestable than Timothy Neilson’s clown show above which was, by way of contrast, all of the above as well as being entirely predictable. Plus ca change for Tiny Tim.

    Unlike Tim, who is consistently choleric in his output, I think this restaurant were just having a bad night keeping up quality in tough times. Only family run places, like the Chinese shop and the adjacent Indian, were open after nine. Those paying regular staff wages couldn’t afford to keep open. Tourists are not back here in force yet. Patrons in most places here seem to be locals and Taswegians go to bed early.


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  9. Indolent @ 10:18 second serve is short with the pace off.
    KD @ 10:19 crunches the backhand return down the line.
    Game, set, match.
    This is where this ridiculous innernet rabbit hole shit leads.
    Disney might warrant a bit of scrutiny, but now I am looking very hard at some of the scrutineers throwing confected mud.


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  10. A political survey mentioned on Paul Murray tonight offers hope (if that’s the right word) that the Libs rather than Labor will be our governors still post May.

    47 Lab to 46 Lib 2PP Essential Guardian Poll. 41 Lib Primary in NSW, national Lib Primary around 37 . Lots of surprises in this polling that are not getting any airplay.


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  11. McGowan, his Police Minister and WAPol at it again. “Community safety” is the latest bleat.

    More restrictions of legal firearms for WA residents. They will never give up until everyone is disarmed.

    Never ending horseshit from a pack of clowns who have never worn a swaety shirt or got dirt under their beautifully manicured fingernails.

    Behold this crap, especially the table laid out with fearsome weapons for the presstitutes to photograph.


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  12. JACK_MAXEY
    @JACK_MAXEY
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    Jan 31
    Anybody want to know purpose of Hunter’s first trip to Kazakhstan in June 2014 on behalf of ChiComs and using Burisma as cover? This is the trip Grassley referenced last week where Hunter did not take the Secret Service. Read carefully. the whole time they were working for Chinese Communists. That gas was going to get piped across Afghanistan as well . . . TRAITORS – FACT. PM Massimov, last head of state security is now under arrest for treason. . . .

    https://gettr.com/post/prlxez4ad3
    Posted on 9:01 PM · Jan 31st, 2022


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  13. JACK_MAXEY
    @JACK_MAXEY
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    1h
    #marcorubio needs to drop out of the race. Because when I finish with #Hunter and averting #War. I am coming for “dientes de conejo” like a laser. I keep my promises.


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  14. Neilson at 10:05 and Perfidious at 10:17.
    Absolutely right.
    Featherbedding from top to bottom.
    Overstaffed, overpaid and disaffected staff, with a dog’s breakfast fleet picked by execs at airshows after their fifth G&T.
    Every few years or so an Ansett reunion will pop up on the news, telling us what a top company it was.
    If you were on the payroll, maybe.
    If you were “self loading cargo” (a passenger), not so much.
    I had a Golden Whinger card once.
    It got me into an associate airline lounge in San Francisco in the late ’90’s. Forget which airline. All red velvet and faux gold columns. Hadn’t been touched since 1970.
    Very Austin Powers.


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  15. Mother Lodesays:

    March 22, 2022 at 10:24 pm

    DoverLord,

    I missed the comment containing Dot’s proposed reforms.

    Any chance of it (with his permission) being made a guest post?

    Could start a very useful discussion.

    Ditto.
    I read it quickly then went off to do something and it got lost.
    As someone indicated earlier it might need some culling and prioritisation but a great conversation starter.
    Prima facie, some of it seemed a bit out there, but maybe that is because we have been conditioned to restrict our thinking within very tight bounds on these matters.


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  16. Sancho, I just took the numbers from a report so can’t say. To do with preferences. Dunno.

    I am no cephologist. Just a messenger.


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  17. BRS isn’t a very nice bloke.

    Hard core (legal) killer and standover man, intolerant of lesser beings and drunken bints.

    Just the sort of bloke you would like to have in uniform when the shit hits the fan.

    Being an unpleasant human doesn’t make him a murderer as alleged.


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  18. I’ve broken up the GETTR post, block of text, for ease of reading because it’s important to remember that while he’s talking of America, the crimes are international and Australia& New Zealand have backed the coverup of the Biden Laptop because they know it’s real

    JACK_MAXEY
    @JACK_MAXEY
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    Mar 21
    People, there are over 100K texts we are curating and 128K emails.

    Before almost all were hidden in archives and difficult to access without a pertinent search term.

    We have also found thousands of pictures he “thought” he deleted.

    Some stuff, I’m uncomfortable even explaining.

    When I say it is over – I mean it.

    Please pray and keep your Constitution close.

    Going to make sure public can crowd source the emails w/ redacted @.com’s, bank account numbers etc. and texts less telephone numbers.

    Trying our best to be responsible and not bring further harm to the victims.

    Keep all of us in your prayers.

    #benotafraid #dutyhonorcountry #courageiscontagious

    Please be patient, we are on the wall.
    Big love America, all of us have devoted our lives to keeping you safe.


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  19. Old news, but…..
    A senior doctor at RNSH today said during a consult “I’m not wearing a mask. I haven’t worn a mask for months. The virus just goes straight through those blue paper masks.”
    Good man!
    A pity that the hospital, the government, and health officials don’t understand the truth of his words.


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  20. dover0beachsays:

    March 22, 2022 at 11:23 pm

    Where is dot’s manifesto of constitutional reform?

    It was posted as a comment in open forum, I think late yesterday.
    It looked a bit ‘stream of consciousness’ and might need a bit of tidy up for a post.
    That is up to him though.


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  21. Hi guys, Vlad here.
    In early May 2016 I got confirmation of of what I already knew, that the DNC was corrupt and placing its jackbooted foot on the scales in favour of Hillary and the neocons. That was a hack well spent.
    This, after stuffing ourselves on Hillary’s kitchenette server for a couple of years, when she was Sec. of State.
    Sure, we did then spend a couple of grand influencing the election. Boy, was that money well spent!
    Yous can waterboard me but I will never admit to knowing ‘ol Joe had a boy and that chip off the old block was only a siphon for the big guy and his cronies.
    You can only imagine my surprise when it was suggested that Trump was my pawn.
    Yet here we are, my empire is engorged baby.
    Sanction me harder daddy.


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  22. 47 Lab to 46 Lib 2PP Essential Guardian Poll.
    Lizzie.
    A 2PP must add to 100.

    This is true.
    However Essential produce what they call ‘2PP Plus’ which supposedly breaks out the undecided vote from the notional 2PP preference allocation.

    Having said that, the Guardian isn’t reporting 47 to 46:

    On the two-party preferred “plus” measure Labor is on 48% (down from 49%), the Coalition: 44% (steady), with 7% of respondents undecided.

    Still pointing at a contest rather than a flogging.

    Also a reminder to preference Greens last.


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  23. Dot said:

    Enshrined statute of civil and criminal limitations of 5 & 30 years save for equitable tolling and exclusions for murder, treason, terrorism and piracy.

    There it is, the Mickey Mouse protection clause. Eat your heart out, Sonny Bono.
    One phone call from Disney and Dot will raise the limit to 150 years. 😀


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  24. Just the sort of bloke you would like to have in uniform when the shit hits the fan.

    I’ve heard Special Air Service Regiment selection described as “an instrument for crushing the weak..”


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  25. Was it this site, or somewhere else that linked to Aussie Cossack’s latest?

    Heh! That flog from A Current Affair was actually stepping backward when the Cossack was returning verbal fire.
    (The way he was carrying on Cossack would have been thoroughly justified in decking him)

    Cossack comes in hard, but isn’t real polished at debate, there were lotsa ways to defang that wanker (in my opinion) from ACA.


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  26. Still pointing at a contest rather than a flogging

    Forget the polls. Me and Groogs have called it. It will be a bloodbath. Put down some black plastic.


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  27. Hard core (legal) killer and standover man, intolerant of lesser beings and drunken bints.

    Just the sort of bloke you would like to have in uniform when the shit hits the fan.

    Interesting conundrum, Pedro. We teach young men in uniform all types of antisocial skills, with the tacit agreement that they won’t use them except when officially approved.

    Some mouthy civilian starts a brawl in a pub, gets his ears torn off, and the knicker wetting starts in earnest……


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  28. Dr F’s Guardian link.

    Voters are underwhelmed by the Morrison government’s response to recent catastrophic flooding in New South Wales and Queensland, and a majority fear disasters will be worse in the absence of significant action to address climate risks, according to the latest Guardian Essential poll.

    The survey of 1,091 voters finds only 26% of respondents characterised the Coalition’s recent flood disaster response as good, while 40% thought poor and 34% said neither good nor poor.

    The new data points to community disappointment but the public backlash after the flood disaster is less visceral than after the catastrophic summer bushfires of 2019-20. Back then, in January 2020, 57% of Guardian Essential respondents disapproved of Morrison’s response while 32% approved.

    Incredible, you live in a flood prone shithole and you blame the government for it.


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  29. WA stud claims record $62,000 Dorper ram purchase
    Staff reporterCountryman
    Tue, 22 March 2022 9:45AM

    The most expensive Dorper ram ever sold in Australia will be used as the genetic foundation of a new stud at Toodyay after three enterprising brothers claimed the coveted $62,000 purchase.

    Luke, James and Patrick Hardwick bought the record-breaking ram, named Trump WD 191472, at the Burrawang ram stud auction in Victoria on Monday.

    The sale breaks the previous Australian record of $50,000 paid for a Dorper at auction in 2020 and smashes last year’s ram sale record of $27,000 set at the Burrawang Dorper and White Dorper stud sale.

    The Hardwick brothers, who are fifth-generation sheep and beef producers, sold their interest in the family meat processing business at Kyneton, Victoria, late last year

    Pedro!!!!!!


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  30. Unfortunately the $62,000 sheep got through a previously undetected hole in the fence and was last seen heading towards a neighbours property.


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  31. Forget the polls. Me and Groogs have called it. It will be a bloodbath. Put down some black plastic.

    So, thickly spread shit sandwiches – as opposed to shit sandwiches with the crusts trimmed off?

    Just as long as no Greens are involved.


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  32. Incredible, you live in a flood prone shithole and you blame the government for it.

    Yes, but apparently with a bit less blame than when the government burnt the joint down in 2019/20.
    Continuous improvement.


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  33. Unfortunately the $62,000 sheep got through a previously undetected hole in the fence and was last seen heading towards a neighbours property.

    Don’t laugh! There was a fairly monumental feud, in the Eastern Wheatbelt, that began when someone cut a hole in the fence, and drove his neighbors stud rams, into his flock of scraggy ewes……


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  34. The most expensive Dorper ram ever sold in Australia will be used as the genetic foundation of a new stud at Toodyay after three enterprising brothers claimed the coveted $62,000 purchase.

    My Dorper gals are available as potential brides for this strapping fellow.

    I will even supply the makeup and wedding gowns in return for the progeny.


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  35. Dorpers are renowned escape artists.

    When these black headed evil eyed villains moved in to the back paddock I spent a fortune in replacing fences that had held Merino sheep for generations. Went through them like the fence didn’t exist.

    Then they knocked down their shade shelter and now live in a five star structure worthy of Saddam Hussein.

    Would have been cheaper to buy a ride on lawn mower.


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  36. I have been thinking some more about Timothy Neilson’s unhinged rant against me yesterday arvo. This is the man who took his hatreds, with Johanna, unasked, onto Dash Cat as well. There is something decidedly sicko about his spews. He can’t let go of them, as Dover has asked people to do and as my IRL friend Rabz also suggested he do a while back.
    I wouldn’t like to come across this man IRL at functions where I attend as Elizabeth Beare. I might fear for my safety as an 80 year old alone in a corridor. Perhaps this is just night fears speaking and I don’t ask for the comment to be deleted. (Best it is left there for forensic evidence?) It is probably just internet hubris as may be my concerned response here to it, but it has me genuinely worried, annoying when I have a big day ahead, and I hope it stops, with its upticks, real or fabricated.

    I would prefer to comment on the 2PP. Paul Murray put the 8% difference down to the not yet committed responders who couldn’t be allocated in the 2PP, leaving a large leeway for a swing still to come. As I’ve said, I have limited understanding of how polls actually work so thanks for the comments about it above.


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  37. Paul Murray put the 8% difference down to the not yet committed responders

    Quite rightly, there are minor parties, therefor the two majors never get to 100 % in the polls.
    After the election with preferences distributed, then yes.

    Ps. Elizabeth, let it go please.
    You are only exacerbating the situation.
    Bullies thrive on stomping down even harder when you show signs of fear and weakness as you do here.


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  38. The unfortunate reality however is different. Regardless of the propaganda war, both sides of the conflict are suffering very real loss of life, limb, and eyesight at the moment. Both Russian and Ukrainian units alike are suffering mass casualties on a daily basis, and the information war on Reddit, Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok honestly has little to no impact on the situation on the ground.

    -Funker530
    ..
    https://funker530.com/video/ukrainian-artillery-unit-wiped-out-after-being-spotted-by-russian-drone/


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  39. Behold this crap, especially the table laid out with fearsome weapons for the presstitutes to photograph.

    Both McGowan and Papalia (Police Minister) are retired naval officers. Papalia was a Clearance Diving officer who spent time in the SAS back when CD’s formed part of the SAS maritime terrorist response capability. (They still perform that role but now with 2nd Commando Regiment at Holsworthy)


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  40. Thanks, Gabor. You are right. Most of it I wish to let slide. Tryly disturbing stuff should be called out. I have never lacked courage.


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