Open Thread – Tues 12 April 2022
2,156 responses to “Open Thread – Tues 12 April 2022”
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Jeez we’re oldsters too.
37.9 years
The median age in Australia is 37.9 years.Who’s totally fucked.
The median age in Italy is 47.3 years.
48.4 years
The median age in Japan is 48.4 years.45.7 years
The median age in Germany is 45.7 years.I dunno how you can run a decent economy with the median age the mid to late 40s.
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The median age in Africa is like just under 20. India is around 28, which is also on the younger side. Sub-Saharan Africa, I think i read once, was about 17!</em
No doubt youth helps but counterbalanced by other factors in poorer countries.
Population density in big western cities such as NY showed up early in the epidemic.
India has all these factors and worse. The predicted unmitigated disaster for India never actually happened.
I’d put the biggest factor as too many fat people in western countries that have congested systems throughout their bodies.
Most of us have returned from travels to other less fed countries and are shocked to note the blubber walking our streets. -
Gez
Population density in big western cities such as NY showed up early in the epidemic.
The one rule about covid you can follow is that there are no freaking rules. When you think you’ve figured out how it works that something comes along to disabuse of that.
NYC is densely populated but so is Tokyo for instance to invalidate the view the closer proximity is an indicator. I’d say it’s an important element not it doesn’t solve this equation. The Netherlands is one of the most densely populated nations on earth. They weren’t big covid consumers 🙂
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He’s claiming that the vaccines are derived from Cobra Venom, among other things.
Here’s the site.
https://naturalnews.com
It’s Disinfo, meaning Mike Adams/Natural News is funded by Spooks.I have asked before is covid a purge, irrespective of what is claimed in these videos, my experience with long covid suggest gov is actively suppressing early treatments for covid and treatments for long covid.
The targeting of comorbidities and the aged make this pandemic feel like eugenics in action.
I have watched the first 2 parts at 1.5x won’t comment on it till I see part 3
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Thank you oh come on, Pedro and Mole for your thoughts on the issue of workplaces for people with intellectual disability – Australian Disability Enterprises (ADEs).
My son’s intellectual disability is so severe he is simply unable to work so I don’t have a personal stake in this but there are 20,500 workers and their families and supporters who do and they are absolutely unrepresented.
A small group of family-carers set up a small organisation to push back against this relentless assault on ADES. Since 2012, when we embarked on this interminable journey, we’ve steadfastly avoided bringing publicity to the ongoing and vexing matters in relation to the employment of people with intellectual disability. We are very sensitive to the fears and anxieties of the intellectually disabled employees who work in ADEs who fear losing not only their jobs, but their purpose in life, their friendships and their social connections., their jobs mean the world to them.
For over a decade now these matters have been the subject of never-ending lawfare instigated by ideologues and the we-know-best brigade determined to drive out of existence all ADEs thereby diminishing the already slim options and opportunities for employment for people with intellectual disabilities who makeup the majority of employees in ADEs, over 20,000 of them. And this antagonism to the sector has been funded almost entirely by the Australian taxpayer.
This is a small but very determined group of taxpayer-funded advocates and ideologues. For a decade this group has brought progress and innovation to a standstill in the disability employment sector and they have done this through relentless delays, obfuscation and lawfare and all funded by the Australian taxpayer for the most part.
People with intellectual disability don’t have a lot of options for employment; so the very notion that these 3rd party actors are campaigning to take away the option of working in an ADE simply because they don’t like the option is astoundingly arrogant and smacks of the worst kind of snobbery.
Not since the days of the divine right of kings have there been people presumptuous enough to think THEY should decide whether and where people can work. And it should be noted that it seems only the workplaces of people with intellectual disability have come under this sustained and relentless attack, against the express wishes, will and preferences of those who are the actual stakeholders, the workers in ADEs.
Why has this attack been so long-lived and relentless? Would it be because the intellectually disabled workers do not have funded advocacy which articulates their will and preference, nor do they have funded legal assistance and for these reasons are easy pickings? Has their lack of capacity to self-advocate and articulate their position because of the intellectual disability emboldened these ideologues and taxpayer-funded actors to unilaterally and arbitrarily bring actions which endanger the very prospect of employment at all?
As far as I am concerned this is the ultimate exploitation, exploiting the disability by taking advantage of a group of people who are powerless, unable to self-advocate due to the very nature of the disability and unable to fend off the attacks on their choices of where they want to work.
The ideologues animate the fiction that: All people with disabilities can work in open employment with the right supports —- sounds good doesn’t it? But then again as has been said by the great Thomas Sowell “Much of the social history of the Western world over the past three decades has involved replacing what worked with what sounded good.”
That a perfect summation. Because of course the cost, the price and the consequences are borne by those who have personal knowledge of, a personal stake in the issues but are excluded from any participation in matters that are about them yet proceed without them.
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Shock, horror. A tiny spot of blood on the band-aid circle covering my Novavax done yesterday.
Dr. John Campbell would not be impressed at the lack of aspiration technique.
The Asian full-time nurse injector of super-efficient mien who works at the clinic we frequent would have been personally insulted had we asked for that and questionned her technique. So we took pot luck, fingers crossed. Luckily no problems so far, not even a sore arm.How about yours? I enquire of He Who Never Notices These Things.
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Is this video even real? similar videos where shown during the very first lockdown with people singing
I think it is real. The different to the first lockdown is that the population were on side, calling out encouragement via the Chinese phrase of ‘good oil’. Just like the Italians singing opera on their balconies. The Shanghai situation is really ugly – a drone compelling obedience, robots in the streets doing similarly, and the population being roughed up if they tried to come out for food. Techniques similar to Vic Pol under Dan were being put into action, all in Hazmat gear to sustain the Covid narrative.
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Nightmare time.
“Joe Biden Presidential campaign surrogate, and climate change hardliner Lizzo posed in a tiny thong, showing off her buttocks while boarding another private jet on Sunday.”
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2022/04/11/climate-crusader-lizzo-poses-while-boarding-another-private-jet/ -
Announcing that it is some unknown Bacteriological Weapon would cause mass panic, not a good idea when there’s 25 million people going nuts.
Conspiracy or a stuff-up? I’d go for a stuff-up first.
If you wanted to constrain a population without panic you wouldn’t starve them.
You would be organising food supplies delivered and quelling fears.
I believe they are only just now getting around to some food deliveries.
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Wonder if I need a bluetooth equipped toothbrush for $200.
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Michael, the Hockeystick, Mann goes full flog about tv in his hotel gym being fixed on Fox:
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H B Bear says:
April 13, 2022 at 6:55 pmI dunno how you can run a decent economy with the median age the mid to late 40s.
Ergo the Population Ponzi or you just let it slide like Japan.
A friend who went motor bike riding in Japan explained it very well. Their infrastructure is first rate but most of it is 30 to 40 years old. The older population is essentially consuming the nation’s assets without modernizing nor replacing them as an ever smaller pool of tax money is being diverted to social services. This is what happens in an oldster society.
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Because of course the cost, the price and the consequences are borne by those who have personal knowledge of, a personal stake in the issues but are excluded from any participation in matters that are about them yet proceed without them.
Labor Governments wrecking what works, it’s all they do.
The bottom line is this:
Older parents of an Intellectually Disabled son are just grateful that he has somewhere to go during the week days, his wages are immaterial.
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What is often not recognised is the very bad reporting figures for death and disability rates in third world countries.
Lizzie, have you not been keeping track of the evidence from the VAERS system in the USA & also here with AEFI, which indicates serious deficiencies in official reporting of vaccine injuries? Contrary to popular belief (and what you would expect!) reporting of such events by GPs, very pressured ICUs, hospitals in general is very sparse. The reports themselves require a great deal of onerous, bureaucratic paperwork which few of the above can find the time to do. And this is not even acknowledging the pressure on GPs, nursing staff, etc not to report, given the resolve of the government to pursue vaccination targets. Furthermore, even specialists, like cardiologists, while talking freely socially about the explosion of unexplained health emergencies, will not publicly address the “elephant in the room”.
The truth will “out” in the long term. Meanwhile there are still a lot of people in denial.
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“She hasn’t been expelled. She’s going to be a physician, maybe at a hospital near you because she has the right political views.”
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In response, our governments locked us in and limited outdoor exercise. And closed gyms, even though “Health” had some inkling of the benefits of both exercise and slimness (and VitD).
you only make vitD outdoors in the sun. everything gov has recommended is the inverse of what should have happened.
I linked to it before, the government’s own recommendations say specifically not to use vitD, vitC, glutathione, zinc for covid.
every single drug is covered it’s all here
china continues to have a zero covid policy. what do they know about covid?
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Furthermore, even specialists, like cardiologists, while talking freely socially about the explosion of unexplained health emergencies, will not publicly address the “elephant in the room”.
Poor bugger who had a stroke at work is completely stuffed. Had just been pfizered. Everyone encouraging him to put in a claim for vaccine injury.
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So how do the FDA know that any hospitalised covid patients who had been treated with hydroxychloroquinine got kidney damage from the hydroxychloroquinine, not from covid, if they don’t compare incidences of kidney damage in those people with incidences of the same thing in hospitalised covid patients who hadn’t been treated with hydroxychloroquinine?
And the real irony is that the official treatment, Remdesivir, is known to cause kidney damage. But has that stopped them using it? How can anyone believe that our welfare is of any concern at all in the scheme of things.
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Bruce of Newcastle says:
April 13, 2022 at 5:36 pmHe’s claiming that the vaccines are derived from Cobra Venom
Ed – I have no idea what they’re using but the adjuvant component in vaccines is a bit of a dark art I gather. You want a substance which hypes the immune system to react with the antigen to produce sufficient antibodies. Raw cobra venom itself seems unlikely since it is neurotoxic, but something like mosquito saliva might be pretty good.
Bruce, I’ve watched a couple of Dr. Ardis interviews, one with Stew Peters and two parts of a three part interview with Mike Adams (can’t find the third part) and from what I can gather from his research, two different venoms are used. There was a lot of information thrown around and I didn’t catch it all, and I have another handicap in these matters, i.e., “I’m not a biologist.”
The vaxxs inject the mRNA for your cells to produce the spike proteins from the krait venom, and the intravenous remdesivir medication carries the cobra venom. Different venoms behave differently, the spike protein from the krait venom for example cause blood coagulation, hence the blood clotting issues from the mRNA vaxxs. The cobra venom found in remdesivir has the opposite effect, it is a blood thinning agent, hence the liver and kidney failures once they stick a pipe down your throat and attach the remdesivir drip.
That’s my understanding of what Dr. Ardis was trying to impart, I may not have captured that completely.
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Cute gal in the vid has Russians hopping mad. Can I just make one suggestion next time the Ukes film a neck lopping vid. Can you make sure the gal either has full lipstick gloss to cover the herpes on her lips or just get another gal to do the vid.
Fellas, it’s important!
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I linked to it before, the government’s own recommendations say specifically not to use vitD, vitC, glutathione, zinc for covid.
Government makes a lot of Health Recommendations.
I prefer to consider it as an intelligence test from Mother Nature.Would you avoid direct sunlight because Skin Cancer?
Plenty did, the cemetery is full of them.
Would you eat Margarine because Butter is full of Saturated Fat?
Yeah, it’s the cemetery again.
Would you vaccinate your kids because Big Nursie says “Do it!”?
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Too hot in the kitchen?
Albo cuts presser short, infuriating far-left journalists (which is to say most of them).
Seems he didn’t want to talk about anything other than the reheated GP super clinics policy, which was a distinct failure the last time around.
At this rate he’s on track to become the Kamala Harris of Australian politics.
Except he can’t play either the race or the gender cards.
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From the Age.
Greens call for gender surgery to go on Medicare
David Crowe
By David Crowe
April 13, 2022 — 2.42pmMedicare would be expanded to include gender affirming surgery in a call from Greens leader Adam Bandt for practical changes to help transgender Australians amid an election row over a Liberal candidate who called trans children “surgically mutilated”.
The Greens stance would add a series of operations to Medicare to act on a petition backed by almost 150,000 people who say the costs can reach $30,000 or more for trans people seeking help from medical specialists.
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Democrat Timing
Salty’s comments on the natural coincidence of Pedo Joe talking about gun control and 80% lowers and the start of active shooter season.
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H B Bearsays:
April 13, 2022 at 6:55 pm
I dunno how you can run a decent economy with the median age the mid to late 40s.Ergo the Population Ponzi or you just let it slide like Japan.
The problem with the population ponzi is that some elements of the ponzi are more interested in welfare than work.
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Bruce of Newcastle says:
April 13, 2022 at 5:36 pmI have no idea what they’re using but the adjuvant component in vaccines is a bit of a dark art I gather. You want a substance which hypes the immune system to react with the antigen to produce sufficient antibodies.
I was hopeful that if I was ever required to have a vaccination that I would probably choose Novavax. Thanks to Vicki who put up info here on the adjuvant in Novavax I now know that if forced by ciccumstances to be vaccinated that I would take any other than Novavax because of the adjuvant used as I am allergic to quinine which has similar properties.
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B John
Most people at this site despise Asian immigration. Look, that’s okay as we all have our likes and dislikes. However, if these same people think it would be better to get young folks in from Europe, let me persuade you that would also be an absolute fucking nightmare.
Most of the young people I’ve had experience with coming in from the old continent would most likely vote Green.
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The problem with the population ponzi is that some elements of the ponzi are more interested in welfare than work.
You don’t understand Ponzi Schemes, SpongeBob.
A Ponzi is a fraud, full stop.
Unless the fraudster is stopped, he’ll flee with the loot to somewhere that doesn’t extradite.
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Tinta at 6:38.
I can’t figure out what these activists want.
Unless they want to create and industry of perpetual dependence which provides employment for Elf Perfessionals.
There are a few businesses in our town which a dedicated to providing employment to relatively mildly disabled people. The model is to integrate a few disabled people with an “able” supervisor, and seems to work pretty well. -
I wonder if she had Omicron or a hanging around earlier Delta/Alpha etc.
Certainly young and healthy nurses in the UK under Alfa (the early pandemic stage) at high viral loads were keeling over dead, well before vaxxes. So were other healthy people, especially if over 50.Just stop it Lizzie.
Please, you have a certain responsibility to stop dribbling shit .
They were dancing in tik tok videos and standing outside in their full PPE costumes cheering the BLM marches along.Healthy Nurses dying….FMD.
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I don’t quite get the Albanese name thing. As far as I have understood, the father was working on a passenger ship, which docked in Sydney. Dad scored a legover with the mother and 9 months later out pops the left-wing little fuckhead.
I understood it was either a one night legover or a very short-term legover and then he was gone. Why did the mother name him after the ship working dad if there was never going to be any future connection?
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Zip , if the virus was a deliberate attempt to infect the world by the Chinese , wouldn’t they logically try to manufacture a bio-weapon that kills the young rather than the old?
If this is what you’re driving at.
I just look at the facts:
first infections occurred during the wuhan military games in october 2019. An excellent way to spread the virus internationally.
the CIA through various ngos had involvement in the gain of function research at wuhan.
none of the characters involved, fauci, dasic etc have been charged with anything implying they were working with the CIA.
Hong Kong demonstrations where starting to spread across the border into mainland china. An existential threat to the CCP.
Trump had also ripped the friendly mask off the CCP and its tactics, imposed sanctions and was forcing the CCP to correct the trade deficit with which it financed its international operations.
Demonrats were able to use post in ballots as the core of their election theft, only possible due to lockdowns and the virus.
Hong Kong was instantly shut down and the protests disappeared never to return.
Trump was expelled with the help of the big tech billionaires, which would not have been possible without the lockdowns.
A bioweapons primary role is to strike fear into the population, not to kill everything in sight, otherwise it comes back to haunt you.
Despite the entire west moving to let covid rip, china continues to have a zero covid policy.
china did not copy the mRNA vaccines, Russia did. very strange.
Gov have not told us the truth about anything covid related and mysteriously all did a 180degree strategy turn around with the arrival of omicron which is almost certainly lab created.
The virus is designed to maim not instantly kill, it can kill the aged and the comorbidity inflicted. the world average for long covid are in the order of 30-40% of the population. the virus causes long term damage. it is nasty. It reads like an eugenics program. Why was the CIA involved in wuhan gain of function?
seems to me there are multiple overlapping agendas at work
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Most people at this site despise Asian immigration.
Permit me a very general observation::
East Asians make excellent immigrants.
They tend to be smart, hard working & family oriented people.
But you have to watch the numbers to encourage them to integrate rather than form enclaves.
I think that’s common sense.
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Ed Casesays:
April 13, 2022 at 7:43 pm
The problem with the population ponzi is that some elements of the ponzi are more interested in welfare than work.You don’t understand Ponzi Schemes, SpongeBob.
A Ponzi is a fraud, full stop.Dickless
It says much for your level of stupidity that you seem to have decided that I am in favour of the scheme.
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My reference was to a different group, much seen among so-called “refugees”.
No issue. I’m just highlighting the huge fear I have about Euroweenies. Can you imagine the fucking nightmare scenario of thousands of Greta Thumbnails handed citizenship. Actually, that’s not a nightmare, that’s hell. Hell on earth.
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Anthony Albanese is calling for civil discourse. LOL. Then saying that he needs security. LOL.
I’m curious Mr Albanese, just what politicians and commentators have been physically attacked in this country, oh I remember, here’s a list…..
Andrew Bolt – assaulted in broad daylight the perpetrators still not found or charged.
Tony Abbott – headbutted in broad daylight in Hobart.
Christine Forster – physically assaulted when attending a celebration to honour her brother.
Fraser Anning – assaulted with an egg in Melbourne.
Scott Morrison – assaulted with an egg.
Craig Kelly – – assaulted with an egg.Hmm, what do these politicians/commentators all have in common? Well here’s a clue Mr Albanese, they’re all from the right side of politics. That’s what the left does, it demonises political opponents and those who disagree with them. And I can guarantee you that every time a right of centre politician is assaulted, activists and other scum on your side of politics celebrate on social media sewers…and heck, they even celebrate on your favourite media, the tax payer funded ABC. Say again Mr Albanese, who needs security? I’m yet to hear of any left-wing politicians in this country being physically assaulted. Let me know when that happens and I’ll take your shallow concerns about needing security seriously.
Finally Mr Albanese, the plain truth is that on my side of politics we don’t headbutt, we don’t throw eggs, we don’t aggressively shout and scream at PMs and we don’t punch Sky commentators on their way to a book launch.
We didn’t star the fire Mr Albanese, your side did……you disgusting hypocrite.
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I understood it was either a one night legover or a very short-term legover and then he was gone. Why did the mother name him after the ship working dad if there was never going to be any future connection?
Simplest explanation?
The Albanese story is bullshit and his dad is someone not named Albanese.
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Bruce, I’ve watched a couple of Dr. Ardis interviews, one with Stew Peters and two parts of a three part interview with Mike Adams (can’t find the third part) and from what I can gather from his research, two different venoms are used.
have to wait till part 3, is the virus carrying mRNA to create venom proteins? is it not just the S1 which is toxic?
One thing I picked up from the 1st 2 part is the damage to muscles, after my mild convid infection I remember constantly tearing muscles. Never put the two together. Tachycardia was another strange post infection symptom that alerted me something wrong was going on.
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Does this mean the unclean can leave from the 18th??
If you are an Australian citizen or permanent resident seeking to leave Australia prior to 18 April 2022, your vaccination status impacts your eligibility to leave. From 18 April 2022, travel restrictions for Australian citizens and permanent residents are being eased, but you may still be asked about your vaccination status.
The Australian Government recommends passengers departing Australia be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 and travel with proof of vaccination status documentation. Unvaccinated Australian citizens and permanent residents are strongly discouraged from international travel due to the health risks.
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I’m yet to hear of any left-wing politicians in this country being physically assaulted. Let me know when that happens and I’ll take your shallow concerns about needing security seriously.
Jim Cairns, 1973.
He was savagely beaten by a non family member in his Melbourne home.
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I understood it was either a one night legover or a very short-term legover and then he was gone. Why did the mother name him after the ship working dad if there was never going to be any future connection?
His mum looks pretty rough but it turns out she was the sort to frequent bars down by the docks. It just gets better and better.
At this rate he’s on track to become the Kamala Harris of Australian politics.
Except he can’t play either the race or the gender cards.
He could try the fat adjacent card in lieu of his recent Jenny Craig efforts.
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have to wait till part 3, is the virus carrying mRNA to create venom proteins? is it not just the S1 which is toxic?
the other thing I picked up is venom damage to mitochondria.
it’s popping up in recent research that celular energy deficit is a probable cause of many downstream long covid symptoms. niacin is now recommended for long covid to boost the NAD production and help cellular repair.
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I understood it was either a one night legover or a very short-term legover and then he was gone. Why did the mother name him after the ship working dad if there was never going to be any future connection?
Is it possible it was your old man and he gave the girl the made up name “Albanese”?
Perhaps he had used “Matriciana” a bit too much.
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Forty-nine years ago…..my examples above are all in the last five years.
Point taken, cassie, that’s how far back you have to go before a left wing politician was assaulted – mind you, Whitlam did call his audience a mob of “lazy bludgers, who’ve never had it so good” and that’s when the barrage opened.
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“What I was told was that (my mother) travelled overseas, met my father, married him overseas, returned to Australia and that he died in a car accident,” Mr Albanese told 7.30.”
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Lol
That’s what they all say. I’m already married.
We sat down just after dinner one night and she — it was very traumatic for her, I think, to tell me that in fact that wasn’t the case, that my father might still be alive, that she’d met him overseas, fallen pregnant with me, had told him and he had said, basically, that he was betrothed to someone from the town in Italy where he was from.
I thought it was a legover in oz – not overseas.
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