Open Thread – Tues 12 April 2022
2,156 responses to “Open Thread – Tues 12 April 2022”
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Many of these jobs would be considered repetitive, boring and menial by a “normal” person, but the actual job is beside the point.
As OCO pointed out the side benefits are immense with socialising, pride in having a job, giving some meaning to life.
We have to burn the village to save the village.
Do you have any idea how small union dues are on $2.50 an hour?
But seriously the biggest mongs in this story are the idiots wanting to make sheltered workshop jobs full paying.
As you mention the massive value is in giving the disabled a normal as possible life, not to mention freeing up mum and dad from having the kid at home or wandering about to be exploited by some scumbag on the streets. -
Save us from well meaning dickheads bleating about “fairness and equality”.
my observation about democracy for what it’s worth is that a side that is persistent and determined enough will eventually get what it wants, even when that involves misleading the electorate about its intentions, bending/ breaking rules or subverting national interests or outright cheating.
US allies now face the reality that even if republicans get back in 2024, it might be another short lived honeymoon till the demonrats shift policy 180degrees again in 2028.
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Howsabout: “And if she hadn’t been chockfull of vaccines, she might never have caught it in the first place”. There’s certainly evidence that the vaccines damage the immune system.
The European medical agency has clearly come out and said repeated booster can damage the immune system. What’s so different between the 1st shoot and boosters that the initial shot doesn’t damage the immune system?
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Sky News Political Reporter Jonathan Lea said Mr Albanese left the press conference after facing “tough” questions.
“Having pledged to take all questions, Anthony Albanese pulled the ripcord after eight minutes today, facing tough questions about his claimed experience, how he could pay for his health policy, ditching a rise to the dole, and a potential Labor greens alliance,” Mr Lea wrote to Twitter.
And not just Sky commenting.
Early days, but I’m quite enjoying the Little Shit’s suffering under the media sunlamp.
The result of three years living under a rock and desperately trying not to be like Shorten.
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Holy Week 2022 Mass readings brought to my mind a hymn I haven’t heard for 60 years. Put it up on yt and realised I’d remembered all the words.
Nicely played on a Taylor guitar:
Beneath The Cross Of JesusGot me thinking about the words and found this interesting article.
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“US allies now face the reality that even if republicans get back in 2024, it might be another short lived honeymoon till the demonrats shift policy 180degrees again in 2028.”
Have you seen the polling numbers? OK, it’s still a few months before 2022 midterms, but historically it only gets worse for the incumbents from here. In 2014, Dems lost the house and senate with a slight lead in the “generic” poll (“Which would you rather see in charge in the house and senate?”) – they’re already “under water” in 2022 with 6 and a half months to go (historically, they could lose another few points yet!)
Then too, a couple of those recent gubernatorial races must be worrying too – Virginia etc. What should have been no contest they lost or nearly did. And the guy in NY that ran as a Repub with NO party support and only a $1,000 or so on campaigning won! New York city, for God’s sake – that’s so left leaning it makes California look alt-right.
But the Dems haven’t backed off on unpopular polices like not allowing parents a say in what their kids get taught- they’ve doubled down, pissing off Momma Bear. You don’t piss off mum’s if you want to win an election!
It wouldn’t surprise me they try a national lockdown, but that might backfire too.
And regardless of who is the Repub candidate in 2024, it’s pretty much certain it won’t be DJT in 2028, so at least two terms of Repub president doesn’t seem impossible – maybe three if it goes Trump, DeSantis, DeSantis. -
Sounds like Adam Band got a mild dose of it too.
‘Google it’: Greens leader Adam Bandt blows up at reporter
Greens Leader Adam Bandt has blown up during a nationally televised address after a reporter asked him this question. Greens leader Adam Bandt has told a journalist to “Google it, mate!” after he was asked about a claim made in his pre-election pitch to voters.
This line was pretty sweet.
“Elections should be about a contest of ideas. Politics should be about reaching for the stars and offering a better society.
Airhead.
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The result of three years living under a rock and desperately trying not to be like Shorten.
And the result of a life never having a real job and earning real money. A life within the parasitic Union and Govt bubbles kissing the arses or those above and below to climb the greasy pole. The result of a life where all that matters are polls and focus groups in order to be glommed on to where those extra votes are.
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The MSM are globalist owned.
If they are giving Albo a hard time that means they are happy with Sco Mo’s work. He’s under control and doing what he’s told.
Or never before in history has a Labor leader been given tough questions.
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“The MSM are globalist owned.”
Part of the issue perhaps – but the real problem is that they are now part of the elite. Or at least, that is how they see themselves – the “messaging” elite.
When it was newspapers and the reporters started at the lowest paid gofer jobs, then became reporters, then opinion writers, and finally editors, they at least had a nose for how real people lived.
Now they go to uni, get a job where they want to “make a difference” instead of telling us the facts, and never move outside their own bubble – totally disconnected from how an average blue-collar worker lives. -
The Globalist media started going easy on the Libs as soon as malcolm Turnbull, a GS globalist himself, became PM.
And he wouldn’t give up his seat to a non globalist.
Tony Abbott was useless but he wasn’t a total globalist.
He had to go.
The bloke couldn’t even look at his watch.
This is still left versus right politics, but it has nothing to do with political parties in Australia.
Just who are the globalists within parties, and the globalists are commos whatever fluffly language they use like stakeholder capitalism ( what rot)
It all makes such sense if you just let yourself be open to the truth.
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When it was newspapers and the reporters started at the lowest paid gofer jobs, then became reporters, then opinion writers, and finally editors, they at least had a nose for how real people lived.
Now they go to uni,……GET BRAINWASHED BY COMMUNISTS… get a job where they want to “make a difference” instead of telling us the facts, and never move outside their own bubble – totally disconnected from how an average blue-collar worker lives.
And their bosses own investment companies like Blackrock who own the major media corps, all six and the message is almost word for word aroungd the world. -
Gimme a break.
Asking the fuckhead what the Unemployment Rate is isn’t a tough question.
It should he in the front of his mind, but he didn’t have a clue.A tough question for a labor pollie is……how does it feel with all the pressure on you, and the classic..what can we do to help.
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If we want world peace we must get the Chinese people to rise up.
And we must get the UN/WEF Davos gangsters out of our governments.
If technology is such that it can keep 26 million people inside their homes screaming out their windows in mental breakdown and starvation, we better soon wake up to what is happening and what they think they can achieve. -
The Qld government revoked its ban on hydroxychloroquine on 12/03/22. If it is so dangerous in the treatment of Covid, why would they do such a stupid thing?
I suspect the new CHO holds the eminently sensible view that it is not dangerous.
In which case he is following the science rathan than a political agenda.
That’s not to say he’ll get it right every time, but he’s a definite improvement over the former incumbent.
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Boambee John says:
April 13, 2022 at 3:46 pmIf you look at someone like Trioli and take her at face value then she seems to be able to flit effortlessly between the historical background of some obscure conflict in one of the stans, then onto labour relations in the CCP, then atmospheric physics and how it relates to the climate and in particular the ocean around the barrier reef. All that before the first break. Day in and day out. If you added it all up they would give the Encyclopaedia a good run for the number of topics that they are able to bring their expert analysis to. That is before you get to the idea of how well they comport themselves onscreen as they swivel smoothly from camera one to camera two when the red light on top changes.
Wankers.
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“… all six and the message is almost word for word aroungd[sic] the world.”
Sure.
But they’re out for what they can get. If public opinion changes significantly, they’ll change too.
F’rinstance, if Musk gets a controlling interest in Twatter [sic] and he changes it so it becomes not politically biased, who knows what might happen when pollies and the talking heads know what people really think?
Or if Repubs get in in 22 with populists in charge, and reign in Alphabet (google + youtube) with anti-trust etc, that would significantly alter the political landscape worldwide.We haven’t lost yet.
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They’re going to allow vote by phone in Australia.
Postal votes.The last US election was stolen.
We haven’t lost yet, but looking at rigged elections to solve our problems aren’t going to do it.
Trump is the democratically elected POTUS.
He won.
They just demolished the electiona nd put fencing and troops around Capital hill.
That being the case, and with years now to fortify their positions, what makes you think elections are anything but theatre?
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Zipster says:
April 13, 2022 at 1:49 pmFollowing from yesterday’s Stew Peters interview with Dr. Bryan Ardis regarding the venom content in Covid-19, Dr. Ardis is interviewed by Mike Adams (part 1 of 3).
my first impression screamed conspiracy nutjobs. I am however openminded if they had some actual evidence….
There’s plenty of evidence Zippy, the same list of treatments which cure Covid-19 also cure venom poisoning.
Part 2 of 3 of the Mike Adams / Dr. Bryan Ardis interview is here.
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Zipster:
US allies now face the reality that even if republicans get back in 2024, it might be another short lived honeymoon till the demonrats shift policy 180degrees again in 2028.
Only if the next Government were to carry out the Chilean Solution with free one way helicopter flights.
The only way the US can heal itself is by partition.
In ten years time when the Communist Sector is starving and freezing in the dark, maybe the idiots will wake up to themselves and want to reinstate the US Constitution and Bill of Rights.
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Doc Faustus:
Early days, but I’m quite enjoying the Little Shit’s suffering under the media sunlamp.
The result of three years living under a rock and desperately trying not to be like Shorten.It’s also the result of not being held up to rigorous questioning by the media.
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I replied to the effect that the vaxxes are useless, he disagreed, he said that she might have died if she hadn’t been vaxxed. I didn’t know what to say.
I wonder if she had Omicron or a hanging around earlier Delta/Alpha etc.
Certainly young and healthy nurses in the UK under Alfa (the early pandemic stage) at high viral loads were keeling over dead, well before vaxxes. So were other healthy people, especially if over 50.Omicron has been mild for most people but not for all and the role of vaccines in attenuation is very difficult to assess. Individuals vary. Vaccines don’t always work. Viruses lose lethality.
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All we know is that Covid has been a killer somewhat as forecast in countries with low vaccination rates, poor nutrition, overcrowded dwellings, and very little in the way of medical services. The Cancun area around the Amazon was one of those, which led to our cruise there being cancelled. Mass graves needed.
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Boambee John:
A pelican could have made a good mark.
The Elephant Bird would have been better – I know they reckon it was flightless, but anything that can be fitted into a trebuchet isn’t necessarily flightless. -
Howsabout: “And if she hadn’t been chockfull of vaccines, she might never have caught it in the first place”. There’s certainly evidence that the vaccines damage the immune system.
I agree, Pfizer especially, case in point: my son. However, many things damage the immune system (plastics of the wrong sort, stress, over-medication, carbohydrate diets etc etc etc). The question then becomes how much and to what extent is this sort of damage highly prevalent; probably not much in the overall scheme of things.
‘Overall’ is what counts, viz, the vaccinated countries have done better than the unvaxxed ones re Covid, even though a case can be made that they do this due to living conditions rather than the vaxx.
There would be ways of juggling large samples to look at factor analysis of a range of variables on this. In the fulness of time, as Sir Humphrey is wont to observe. -
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Unless I missed something he’s claiming there’s snake poison in the water supply???
He’s claiming that the vaccines are derived from Cobra Venom, among other things.
Here’s the site.
https://naturalnews.com
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‘Overall’ is what counts, viz, the vaccinated countries have done better than the unvaxxed ones re Covid, even though a case can be made that they do this due to living conditions rather than the vaxx.
Lizzie, you need to relook at the statistics. Predominantly unvaccinated countries, as in most of the African nations, have actually fared better in the COVID stakes. And this is DESPITE poor living conditions compared to the industrialised societies. The almost fully vaccinated countries, such as Israel, have repeated resurgences of the virus and a disturbingly high death.
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On the Biden Birdie – I doubt you could go far wrong in ascribed the hit shot to a pigeon. They are ubiquitous and very much equal opportunity poopers on folk below.
Our local Currawongs do well in the regorgitation stakes, leaving clots of injested seeds all over the feeding ledge when they empty their crops to fill ’em up with my proferred mince. Happily, they favour what the Scottish castle architects used to call ‘the lang drop’ for rear-end excretions. Bottom end over the ledge and let it rip to the rocks below.
This morning, Bruce, we had the sweetest little ball of coloured feathers and a beak arrive in the Jacaranda and look hopeful: an adolescent Kookaburra. I sometimes feed these kingfisher birds bits of bread or mince dropped onto the rocks below, but they mostly don’t come up to our verandah. This little fellow or femme (I can’t tell with Kookaburras) seemed very hungry and happily came down to the railing for some food. The usual crew of minahs, lorikeets, butcher birds, currawongs, and the occasional magpie still call by especially when it is wet and miz.
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Lizzie, you need to relook at the statistics.
I do know some of the raw figures look like that, Vicki, which is why I particularly added a piece about natural immunity and letting the virus go free. However, it is also important to look at each country with regard to specific factors. Africa – a lot of Ivermectin used to control parasites, probably had some effect there, also hydroxychloroquine to control malaria, similarly. Peru – high death rates although Ivermectin widely tried, an area of high altitude where breathing issues can flare badly. Amazon – swampy and not well controlled for Malaria nor parasites – very high death rates. Similarly, Brazil, slum dwellers did very badly at first till immunity improved. Middle East – some major deaths during the early stages (and these things are time critical), similarly India, especially for Delta. What is often not recognised is the very bad reporting figures for death and disability rates in third world countries. Indonesia, like many others, has been only too happy to accept whatever vaccines they can get; this indicates something of a hidden problem, in my view. China – there is a hidden story there too, with their vaccines inefficient and poorly distributed. Israel – I suspect a bit of hysteria and iatrogenic over-treatment and over-vaxxing has caused problems here but that’s just a guess. Possibly some single-population sensitivity as well? Different countries may have situation-specific circumstances. As I said, assessments in country-by-country population terms are very difficult and only over time can the realities be properly judged.
I don’t claim to be any sort of up-to-date expert on the data that is available already, I just have a rational level of suspicion of rushing to judgement on poor data.
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Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
April 13, 2022 at 4:29 pm
All we know is that Covid has been a killer somewhat as forecast in countries with low vaccination rates, poor nutrition, overcrowded dwellings, and very little in the way of medical services. The Cancun area around the Amazon was one of those, which led to our cruise there being cancelled. Mass graves needed.Isn’t Cancun in Mexico?
Cruises are being cancelled because the first attempts resulted in widespread covid infections on the ship.
It’s not statistically true to say poorer crowded countries have done worse with covid. India stands as a testament to that fact.
The propagandists try to tell us there’s this huge unheard death toll in India. I’ve been there often and there’s one thing Indians are not, and that’s quiet. -
Zipster says:
April 13, 2022 at 4:40 pmThere’s plenty of evidence Zippy, the same list of treatments which cure Covid-19 also cure venom poisoning.
Part 2 of 3 of the Mike Adams / Dr. Bryan Ardis interview is here.
Unless I missed something he’s claiming there’s snake poison in the water supply???
Initial outbreaks appear that way, the major weapons though are the vaxxs, and then the remdesivir to finish you off.
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He’s claiming that the vaccines are derived from Cobra Venom
Ed – I have no idea what they’re using but the adjuvant component in vaccines is a bit of a dark art I gather. You want a substance which hypes the immune system to react with the antigen to produce sufficient antibodies. Raw cobra venom itself seems unlikely since it is neurotoxic, but something like mosquito saliva might be pretty good. At least for me, since I get nice puffy and itchy lumps, meaning the immune system doesn’t like the spit very much.
Nothing wrong with cobra venom especially since we already use botulism toxin very successfully. Humanized cobra venom factor (hCVF) gets a lot of hits in a search. CVF itself appears to be a potent immunogen, and immunogens are used as adjuvants, so it isn’t out of the question that it could be used in a vaccine. But CVF is only one component of venom and can be produced separately by recombinant DNA tech. I don’t know enough about this area to say it is true, but I can’t see why it couldn’t be used if it works and is safe.
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Here’s another view of the situation in Israel.
I think it is always a good idea to hear what those working at the coal-face have to say.
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Laws has been quiet, so I Goooglied Bob Rogers:
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I have no idea what they’re using but the adjuvant component in vaccines is a bit of a dark art I gather. You want a substance which hypes the immune system to react with the antigen to produce sufficient antibodies.
Yes, they try potent mixtures. Quite a witches’ brew, and nothing wrong with that if toxicities are kept in mind. One point to quell hysterias is to recognise that very small amounts of what may seem to be deleterious chemicals are used in adjuvants. As I commented earlier on a naturopath going off reservation about these, she probably gets more from very common substances she uses around the home or in hair shampoo etc. Which, of course, is why naturopaths insist on getting ‘natural’ things that sound nice and friendly and herbal, and we all know that herbs can never harm you. Don’t we?
Mosquitos are natural too, horrible vectors that they are, and so are good old Aussie Grevillia, which bring me out in lumps. Human life has been a constant evolutionary battle between our immune systems and chemical irritants and outright pathogens, the latter definitely out to kill us or suck us dry. It’s Red Queen stuff; read Matt Ridley on it. We are keeping one step ahead, and in the meantime, my philosophy is that life is worth living without worrying about it too much. Kept me going for my eighty years so far, and more, God willing.
Gin and tonic time!
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This morning, Bruce, we had the sweetest little ball of coloured feathers and a beak arrive
Lizzie – Hehe, adolescent kookas are the A-10 Warthog of the bird world. If you have one nearby and you toss a bit of meat to a magpie…kaboom! Airstrike. Magpie jumps around squawking as young kooka gulps the meat it stole. After a while they learn manners, which is good, otherwise they’d be in grave danger of being blinded: magpie beaks are sharp, and irate dispossessed magpies are combative.
Fairly short of currawongs at Cafe Bruce right now since they’re off feasting on figs and berries. Three today, one yesterday. And with the rain the kookas and magpies haven’t been coming by so much either since there’re plenty of half-drowned worms to be had due to all the rain (which is falling yet again right now).
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the ccp is now snookered. western governments by “sheer coincidence” have all decided at the same time to let omicron rip. Xi can now follow suit and drop zero covid and lose face or he can release a new variant and try to force the west into lockdown again. There is absolutely no way he can keep omicron out.
Do you really think that what is being done in Shanghai has ANYTHING to do with a virus? Tucker Carlson certainly doesn’t, neither does Naomi Wolf. I suppose starving you to death is one way of making sure you don’t catch it.
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Farmer Gez, yes, Cancun is in Mexico.
It’s me and geography – I am trying to recall the name of the place in the Amazon. Now I recall: it is Manaus. Very bad Covid there. Naturally they wouldn’t take a cruise ship in at that time.
The balance between natural immunity (letting it rip, no lockdown as in Sweden – first world though) and getting the population vaxxed is still being debated. India did quite a bit of shuffling populations around. And people did die, until natural immunity kicked in. The proportions are debatable: I’ve no argument about that. But also, I’ve lived in the third world and I know of its ability to fail to record, and also of its capacity to hide bad things when they happen, like deaths. I lived through both a cholera epidemic and a typoid epidemic in Sri Lanka in 1973. The outside world wouldn’t even have known it had happened, so closed were things at that time. -
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It’s not statistically true to say poorer crowded countries have done worse with covid. India stands as a testament to that fact.
The propagandists try to tell us there’s this huge unheard death toll in India. I’ve been there often and there’s one thing Indians are not, and that’s quiet.You can’t really discern much from India or Africa as the stats are non-existent to some extent. You can possibly say that India and Africa they may not have been as badly impacted due to their relatively youthful populations. The median age in Africa is like just under 20. India is around 28, which is also on the younger side. Sub-Saharan Africa, I think i read once, was about 17!
In the EU it’s just over 38 and roughly about the same in the US.
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Interesting piece on how Fuckerberg’s bucks helped steal the 20 election. This is just one part of the steal too.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/12/mark-zuckerbergs-donations-rigged-the-2020-electio/
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Do you really think that what is being done in Shanghai has ANYTHING to do with a virus?
I haven’t seen Tucker on this, wouldn’t care much what Naomi Wolfe thinks.
The footage from those tower blocks is appalling, as Cassie noted above. Totally dystopian, and that is the point. This is the CCP in over-reach. It what happens when power is not distributed but is top down. The message gets sent down the line and local apparatchiks try to excel each other in implmentation in order to get Party approval. Concern for people is the last thing on the list. That’s how major politically-induced famines have happened in the past. The Towers of Shanghai are just a contemporary example of the same sort of thinking. It’s pulling the sophisticated urban and westernised population there into control. Covid has provided a convenient opportunity and they are seizing it before that excuse evaporates and they have to find another one.
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Would any of our thinkers like to read and comment?
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Totally dystopian, and that is the point. This is the CCP in over-reach. It what happens when power is not distributed but is top down. The message gets sent down the line and local apparatchiks try to excel each other in implmentation in order to get Party approval. Concern for people is the last thing on the list.
Yep and it’s exactly the same playbook since the outbreak over there. Communists aren’t know for their political dynamism.
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In the EU it’s just over 38 and roughly about the same in the US.
Yes, population age pyramids also have a significant impact. The West is old. The Middle East and the Third World is young. China, btw, is old, shot itself in the foot with its one-child policy, listening to the population bombers such as Paul Ehrlich in the 70’s (NB how wise will be commenters about the similar injured feet of countries who listened to the climateers in our times?).
Also important is diet (as I mentioned). Poorer Americans are obese and have a terrible nutrition.
As do many First World countries. It’s harder to be a fatty in the Third World unless you’re rich.
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