Open Thread – Weekend 14 May 2022


Overgrown pond at the edge of the forest (Siverskaya), Ivan Shishkin, 1883

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thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 15, 2022 10:06 am

Ed.
Someone mentioned the chap.
Another person posted a link as background for those who didnt know/had forgotten and about 2 comments mentioned it since then.

“pushed’ means something different in your world does it?

Roger
Roger
May 15, 2022 10:06 am

Bottom line:
The Towkester was a shithouse candidate who didn’t have a hope of holding heavily AngloSaxon Cook in the 2007 RuddSlide.

A perfect illustration of the contempt for the views of their membership and voters that has brought the Liberal Party undone.

132andBush
132andBush
May 15, 2022 10:06 am

And for very fine measure a “Poofteenth”

A “Fartfull”.

Why does Windows keep underlining these words?

Zipster
Zipster
May 15, 2022 10:07 am
Roger
Roger
May 15, 2022 10:10 am

First ray of sunshine in a week breaking through the clouds.

Looks likely La Nina will be back for an encore performance next summer.

132andBush
132andBush
May 15, 2022 10:10 am

Special Ed,
How’s the research into the slave trade to the Arab world going?
And who stopped it?
And where it’s still practiced in the world?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 15, 2022 10:11 am

And for very fine measure a “Poofteenth”
Or “Two fifths of bugger all”

“A gnat’s foreskin?”

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 15, 2022 10:16 am

Wow, the revolutionary 60’s left were a bunch of serial perverts in france.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/may/14/camille-kouchner-familia-grande-olivier-duhamel-abuse-interview

RTWT, France is the closest you will get to thinking ‘there might be something about red shoes/tunnels and missing kids after all’..

In it, Kouchner accuses her stepfather of sexually abusing her twin brother when they were teenagers.

That stepfather is Olivier Duhamel, an intellectual heavyweight well known in France as president of the National Foundation of Political Science (FNSP), the board that oversees the governance of Sciences Po, the prestigious university attended by much of France’s political class. Also a leading political commentator on radio and television, Duhamel sat at the summit of French cultural and intellectual life – until, that is, his stepdaughter’s revelation…

A year earlier, in 2020, Vanessa Springora’s Consent (translated into English by Natasha Lehrer), had shone another ugly light on the mores of the 70s and 80s in French intellectual quarters. Her testimony revealed how, aged 13, she was first groomed and then abused for two years by the 50-year-old writer Gabriel Matzneff who was renowned for his sexual taste for adolescents. He even published an essay entitled “Under 16 Years Old” in 1974, in which he wrote “To sleep with a child, it’s a holy experience, a baptismal event, a sacred adventure”. At the time, nobody batted an eyelid (under French law children of any age could arguably “consent” to sex with an adult, including blood relatives).

The family was at the heart of the left-leaning French cultural elite. Her mother was Évelyne Pisier, a renowned feminist and political scientist who had had a four-year affair with Fidel Castro in the 60s. Her father is Bernard Kouchner, one of the founders of Médecins Sans Frontières, and a key player in different governments on the left and right: he was health minister under François Mitterrand and then Jacques Chirac, and foreign affairs minister under Nicolas Sarkozy. Her aunt, Marie-France Pisier, was talent-spotted aged 16 by the New Wave film director François Truffaut and enjoyed a long screen acting career.

I knew their little games. Some of the parents and children at Sanary kissed one another on the mouth. My stepfather would ‘warm up’ his friends’ wives. The friends came on to the nannies. Young men were offered to older women. I remember, under the table, my stepfather stroking a woman’s leg. I remember my mother’s explanation when I relayed it to her: ‘There is no harm. I know about it. Fucking is our freedom.’

But was it allowed with my brother, too?

Zipster
Zipster
May 15, 2022 10:16 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 15, 2022 10:19 am

Metric is bland, uninteresting, but ok for measurements.

Back to cubits and talents then.
I liked “bath” as a measure for wine.
Or a tun. A tun of wine is a nice thing to have.

dopey
dopey
May 15, 2022 10:19 am

Andrew Symonds. Made a lively 70 one Ashes test at the MCG. That was his natural game. The crowd loved it. He’d been under pressure before then. He was proud of that innings with good reason.

custard
custard
May 15, 2022 10:26 am

Hunters 125,000 emails are now all beautifully catalogued and available in all sorts of formats and there is even a search tool.

https://www.bidenlaptopemails.com/

P
P
May 15, 2022 10:28 am

Apartheid in LGAs of concern,
namely: Bayside, Blacktown, Burwood, Campbelltown, Canterbury-Bankstown, Cumberland, Fairfield, Georges River, Liverpool, Parramatta, Strathfield and some suburbs in Penrith
should have been overridden by emergency ruling/legislation by the Federal Government, IMO.
Next Saturday I reckon those who were so mistreated will not forget the “not my responsibility” PM of the day.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 15, 2022 10:32 am

Next Saturday I reckon those who were so mistreated will not forget the “not my responsibility” PM of the day.

Labor Councils oppressed their own people [news at 11], so it’s Scotty Morrison’s fault?
Gimme a fucking break.

Digger
Digger
May 15, 2022 10:41 am

their pressures in Atmospheres (770kPa = 7.7Bar)!

Which equals 7.599 atmospheres….

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 15, 2022 10:46 am

Disappointing to see no Bentleys in the Bathurst 12 hour. I had my man turn it off.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 15, 2022 10:58 am

Mosman’s trophy-home owners are set to welcome Qantas boss Alan Joyce and his husband Shane Lloyd to the well-heeled neighbourhood after the couple bought a federation mansion on Mosman Bay for $19 million.

So how do they decide which one is called the husband?

Maybe the Wong chap could advise…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 15, 2022 10:59 am

H B Bearsays:

May 15, 2022 at 10:46 am

Disappointing to see no Bentleys in the Bathurst 12 hour. I had my man turn it off.

Rightfully so.
Any Wolsleys?

Roger
Roger
May 15, 2022 11:00 am

Wow, the revolutionary 60’s left were a bunch of serial perverts in france.

It started well before the ’60s.

Sartre and “feminist icon” de Beauvoir used to prey on underage schoolgirls.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 15, 2022 11:02 am

So how do they decide which one is called the husband?

Er, let’s take this offline.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 15, 2022 11:07 am

Oh, OK, Sancho, I get it…the husband is the “dominant” one?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 15, 2022 11:09 am

To be clear, TE, I am only speculating.
No first hand knowledge.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 15, 2022 11:10 am

Sartre and “feminist icon” de Beauvoir used to prey on underage schoolgirls.

Jeffrey Epstein.
Wrong time.
Wrong place.

johanna
johanna
May 15, 2022 11:11 am

Tyre pressures are still measured in pounds per square inch.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 15, 2022 11:13 am

India just banned Wheat Exports [according to ZeroHedge].

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
May 15, 2022 11:14 am

But of course, as everyone keeps telling us, the real story of the 2022 election isn’t about the blokes in suits, it’s about a wave of women in teal who have no qualms about saying what they stand for.

Yes indeed. At long last, affluent upper middle class “progressive” urban-dwelling white women are breaking their many decades of total silence.
And being funded by a male billionaire to do it.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 15, 2022 11:19 am

Hmmmmm….

That does appear to be a significant ‘blip’ in deaths.

Im more inclined to put it down to self harm/drugs/despondency brought about by the restrictions and closures rather than the jab, at least without better info.

Seems to be around twice more than the average dying in those age groups.
https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/are-the-covid-vaccines-killing-people-over-time-the-data-suggests-yes/

Something is killing off large numbers of 25- to 54-year-olds in the United States, and the powers that be in government and the media are pretending it is not happening. There is no visible effort to study the alarming statistics gathered by actuaries for the life insurance industry, which keeps track of deaths because they directly impact their bottom line through claims from the insured. [emphasis in original]

Seems immune system problems are on the rise, significantly.

Roger
Roger
May 15, 2022 11:21 am

Oh, OK, Sancho, I get it…the husband is the “dominant” one?

It’s like this, TE…you know how in baseball there’s a pitcher and a catcher?

Not something you want to dwell on for too long though.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 15, 2022 11:22 am

Hmmm, but the ladies do it too. There’s always one who’s the frilly female, and the other one wears the trousers and suits. The Wong chap again.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
May 15, 2022 11:24 am

Or “Two fifths of bugger all”

Surely that’s just a metric approximation to the original imperial definition which would have been three eighths of bugger all.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
May 15, 2022 11:26 am

H B Bear says:
May 15, 2022 at 10:46 am

Disappointing to see no Bentleys in the Bathurst 12 hour. I had my man turn it off.

Have your man contact my butler, Brough Superior have a new range out that you would find most salubrious.

https://broughsuperioraustralia.com.au/

Anchor What
Anchor What
May 15, 2022 11:27 am

No Wolseleys, no Humber Super Snipes!
No point watching then.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 15, 2022 11:28 am

Im more inclined to put it down to self harm/drugs/despondency brought about by the restrictions and closures rather than the jab, at least without better info.
Lol.
You’ve got no info, but you’re drawing a conclusion anyway?
fuckwit

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
May 15, 2022 11:28 am

Colonel Crispin Berka says:
May 15, 2022 at 11:24 am

Or “Two fifths of bugger all”

Surely that’s just a metric approximation to the original imperial definition which would have been three eighths of bugger all.

Call me old school but i prefer “nine sixty-fourths”

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
May 15, 2022 11:28 am

Struth.
You see horseface in NZ has caught the couf?
Describes it as a normal experience in NZ now.

Why doesn’t she try horse dewormer?

Roger
Roger
May 15, 2022 11:28 am

Hmmm, but the ladies do it too.

Moving on…

Putin’s redeemable qualities. Anyone?

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 15, 2022 11:31 am

It’s:
five fifths of fuck all
Always was, always will be, let’s talk about something other than Flamers,
Lezzos, tank turrets, and shopping.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 15, 2022 11:35 am

Here’s another one:
If that massive increase in deaths isn’t caused by
Covid/19 Vaccines,
i’ll suck a dead dog’s dick til it barks.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 15, 2022 11:38 am

You’ve got no info, but you’re drawing a conclusion anyway?

Ed-Mong has trouble speaking human.
As a poorly programmed Turing machine it fails to pick out what is obviously a “I dont know” plus speculation as a “conclusion”.
Ed-Mong also fails to comprehend the link led to information supporting the claim of excess deaths and a so far unexplained increase in immune disease numbers.

In short Ed-Mong-fails.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 15, 2022 11:41 am

Michael Smith News – the chosen method of transport of those putting out Zalli Steggal’s electioneering material..

Do as we say, not as we do.
Sunday, 15 May 2022

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With 541 hp, the 4.0-liter twin-turbo V8 engine with twin-scroll turbocharger proves to be particularly powerful. The maximum torque of 6,800 rpm is reached between 1,960 and 4,500 rpm. Acceleration from 0 to 60 mph takes just 3.9 seconds.

Dot
Dot
May 15, 2022 11:43 am

Horse, heal thyself!

Neigh!

Zipster
Zipster
May 15, 2022 11:50 am

Putin’s redeemable qualities. Anyone?

250b fortune + the worlds largest nuclear missile fleet.

amber heard was unavailable for comment at the time of publication of this blog comment entry

lotocoti
lotocoti
May 15, 2022 11:51 am

No Wolseleys, no Humber Super Snipes!

What about the Blagger’s motor of choice, the MkII Jag?

Roger
Roger
May 15, 2022 11:55 am

250b fortune + the worlds largest nuclear missile fleet.

Being a thief and a danger to world peace aren’t exactly redeemable qualities in a person.

(Actually, it was a rhetorical question, but, hey…I’ll roll with it.)

Frank
Frank
May 15, 2022 11:58 am

As I’ve noted before, aid is not about aid, it’s about projecting soft power in our region.

Is that a polite way of saying bribery, or tribute?

Zipster
Zipster
May 15, 2022 12:00 pm

kim.com thread sounds the alarm bell. indeed what is the end game here..

? This may be the most important threat that I ever make. Big picture stuff.

I’ll try to help you understand why the future is not what we’re hoping for. A major global collapse is coming. It may be worse than we can imagine.

Our leaders know.
But what are they planning?

CrazyOldRanga
CrazyOldRanga
May 15, 2022 12:01 pm

“Ladies do it too”

Strapadicktome.

Your welcome.

Roger
Roger
May 15, 2022 12:06 pm

Is that a polite way of saying bribery, or tribute?

See the ensuing discussion, Frank.

Our leaders know. But what are they planning?

Hopefully, something involving a glass of scotch, a library and a loaded revolver.

It’s about all they could manage to carry off succesfully.

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 15, 2022 12:09 pm

Hopefully, something involving a glass of scotch, a library and a loaded revolver.

It’s about all they could manage to carry off succesfully.

They’d likely be incompetent enough to miss.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 15, 2022 12:10 pm

The Shit Towns of Oz weekly is out, with Mt Gambier leading the list for this:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-10/court-hears-driver-had-sex-with-passenger-during-police-pursuit/101052270

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 15, 2022 12:11 pm

Albo and Greens will take us back to Whitlam chaos years Terry McCrann

8:48PM May 13, 2022
62 Comments

If as now seems all but certain we emerge with an Albanese-led Labor-Green government, it will be a return not to a 1980s Hawke-Keating future but to the Whitlam chaos years of the 1970s.

Let me hasten to make two very salient points.

I am most definitely not suggesting that Anthony Albanese will or indeed ever could be Gough Whitlam Version 2.0.

To borrow from a certain late US senator, I – very distantly, as a young journalist – “knew” Gough Whitlam; Mr Wannabe-PM, and now it seems PM-in-Waiting, you’re no Gough Whitlam.

Whitlam had as PM an imperial grandeur that no prime minister since has equalled or even approached. And that was to a very significant extent exactly the problem. He sat above it all, as the chaos reigned and raged around the cabinet table, as each and every minister embarked like satraps on frolics of their own.

From the extraordinary 1974 budget that lifted spending by what can only be described as a breathtaking 40 per cent in a single year – true, “only” 20 per cent in real terms thanks to the raging inflation – to the Khemlani loans ­affair, and innumerable other imbroglios along the way.

It’s the chaos that a PM-Albo threatens, indeed promises to replicate; in large part I would venture to suggest in anticipation, precisely because he is no Gough, more what used to be called a milksop.

The satraps from Chris to Kristina will run as wild; while Jim, I also “knew” Paul, and Treasurer-in-Waiting, you’re no Paul Keating.

The second point is more chillingly substantive.

In all the discussion about hung parliaments and minority governments, with the focus on the fake independents in the lower house, the Greens in the Senate have been all but forgotten.

If Labor wins government, whether as a minority or in its own right, it will be in coalition with the Greens, even if only de facto.

Despite the fake claims – this is less a Seinfeldian election about nothing and much more one populated by fakes and fakery – about replicating Hawke-Keating, an Albo-led government would in policy and practice be all but indistinguishable from a Green one.

At a more basic level, while the nine or so Greens in the Senate after the election might not be able to guarantee a Labor-Green maj­ority, a Labor government would not be able to get anything through the Senate without at least their support – apart from everyday bipartisan legislation.

And be afraid, be really afraid, if we get a Labor minority government, that would have to be, would leap to be, in coalition with fake independents in the lower house and with all-too-true Dark Greens in the upper.

So, we will have a Labor-Green government. It will embrace the chaos of the Whitlam years. It will be led by someone who in the past five weeks has shown he is quite simply not up to the job.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 15, 2022 12:13 pm

And here’s me, online and IRL, arguing with people that deny RUS successfully crossed Severdonetsk River in the last week and is preparing to breakout.

I agree that you should be very excited, Dover.

8 years and 80-odd days into their ‘Special Operation,’ and this is the first Russian feint that might actually succeed. 🙂

It’s a terrible shame though, that at the same time the Ukrainian counter-offensive that isn’t real has pushed Vlad Bae’s minions and their Donbassian proxy troops out of Kharkov and over the Russian border (and they wouldn’t let their loyal and heroic Ethnic Russian allies in!) threatening the top of the entire Izyum salient (and thus that entire front), Russian forces are digging in on the Kherson oblast instead of squaring up for a push to Odessa and pro-RU milbloggers on Telegram have finally caught onto the fact that the multiple attempts at crossing the Severskyi Donets this week was a bit of a mess, and are now publicly doubting their own Narrative and commanders…

There’s a Hole in your Cauldron
Dear Vlad Bae, dear Vlad Bae

There’s a hole in your Cauldron,
Dear Vlad Bae, a hole…

JC
JC
May 15, 2022 12:20 pm

Yes indeed. At long last, affluent upper middle class “progressive” urban-dwelling white women are breaking their many decades of total silence.
And being funded by a male billionaire to do it.

Tim, I wouldn’t be surprised if dickhead Cannon-Brookes (who has never turned a profit at Atlassian) is funding part of the sorority’s campaign.

PeterM
PeterM
May 15, 2022 12:20 pm

Dear Mr Morrison,

Missing us yet?

Yours Truly

Your abandoned conservative base.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 15, 2022 12:21 pm

On metric vs imperial.
Years ago I had an old carpenter do some work for me.
No 32nds and 64ths.
He would measure something as “five foot four and 3/8 … proud” or “seven foot nine and 3/4 … fine”.
Proud = a tad over.
Fine = a bit under.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 15, 2022 12:25 pm

(Should also mention the promised Russian cauldron effort that will finally overwhelm Severodonetsk and justify the entire war to date, is coming almost exclusively from the south, very veeeeeery slowly up from Popasna. Not from the vaunted river crossing in which a total victory was somehow obtained by the RU forces, despite the Motor Rifle Brigade detailed to the task being more or less totally wiped outand multiple precisous pontoon bridges splattered…)

Frank
Frank
May 15, 2022 12:27 pm

Hopefully, something involving a glass of scotch, a library and a loaded revolver.

True story, my father knew someone that did exactly that. The guy involved shredded all of his correspondence before he did it and being curious dad bought the confetti home in a suitcase. For the next few weeks he pieced it together with my mother like some jigsaw problem to try to find out the cause of the suicide. Turns out it was drinking, gambling and carousing with floozies that bought about a financial collapse the wife taking off with the kids. Sordid story. As dad said “it was a bugger to clean up”.

It’s probably more considerate to do it in the bathroom or the conservatory than the library.

JC
JC
May 15, 2022 12:27 pm

I wonder, out of the Holmes a’Court sorority, which one has the best the best rack?
Does anyone have a guess? I reckon Zoeeeee would be up there.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 15, 2022 12:28 pm

The Towkester was a shithouse candidate who didn’t have a hope of holding heavily AngloSaxon Cook in the 2007 RuddSlide.

What do you have against Lebanese? Waaaayyyssssisssssmmm?

JC
JC
May 15, 2022 12:32 pm

Sanchez

I think Dotster said it well. Imperial is more human and great for day to day measurement, which is all that 90% of the population require.

I’m heading off the Bunnings now to buy a couple of furlongs or rope and 1/2 a chain of string.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 15, 2022 12:33 pm

I see we had a late night tutorial in NASA moonshot maths last night.

JC
JC
May 15, 2022 12:35 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
May 15, 2022 at 12:33 pm

I see we had a late night tutorial in NASA moonshot maths last night.

Yes, he’s quite the little astronaut. He’s been up to the space station 1/2 dozen times. A national treasure.

Bluey
Bluey
May 15, 2022 12:36 pm

Zipstersays:
May 15, 2022 at 11:50 am
Putin’s redeemable qualities. Anyone?

250b fortune + the worlds largest nuclear missile fleet.

amber heard was unavailable for comment at the time of publication of this blog comment entry

I’ve wondered where exactly that fortune is. If it was in the west you know it would’ve been seized. If it’s in Russia, well, that just ties his future to Russia doesn’t it? Unlike our political creatures running off to some UN position or similar.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 15, 2022 12:37 pm

Ed Casesays:
May 15, 2022 at 11:31 am
It’s:
five fifths of fuck all
Always was, always will be, let’s talk about something other than Flamers,
Lezzos, tank turrets, and shopping.

Dickloess

You left out spooks.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 15, 2022 12:39 pm

True story, my father knew someone that did exactly that

Supposed to have been a true story, from the London clubs.

“I say, you fellows. Pemberthy’s gone, and shot himself in the club library. Made the Devil of a mess, he has. Chaps should think of others, before they do something like that. Not good for the younger members.”

Roger
Roger
May 15, 2022 12:39 pm

It’s probably more considerate to do it in the bathroom or the conservatory than the library.

Better yet, walk off into the bush somewhere, as Adam Lindsay Gordon did.

Be that as it may…

Areff, re Joe Dolce’s latest piece at Q Online: Madame Blavatsky (nee von Hahn) was ethnically Russo-German and a subject of the Russian empire, not Ukrainian, as Joe has it. (I’m not making a political point here, just pointing out a factual inaccuracy.)

JC
JC
May 15, 2022 12:41 pm

Interesting piece. Nuclear comes in at least 6 different varieties… Vanilla, chocolate and radioactive caramel.

Office of Nuclear Energy
Swipe Right for Nuclear: An Introduction to 6 Advanced Nuclear Technologies

The Hiden swamp creatures seem to be fully on board with nuke and that’s a good thing. Possibly the only one.

JC
JC
May 15, 2022 12:42 pm

At 12.35, I was referring to Hallward Hughes of course.

Zipster
Zipster
May 15, 2022 12:43 pm

Should also mention the promised Russian cauldron effort that will finally overwhelm Severodonetsk and justify the entire war to date, is coming almost exclusively from the south

listening to the war analysts, one day it’s the russians have stalled they will need to call a general mobilisation, a few days later it’s, oh they now control such and such a town. rinse and repeat. it’s a meat grinder that will take months to play out with much back and forward.

day one I said, the ukies should rush the to the negotiating table and abandon the donbass. would have save 10s of thousands of lives.

132andBush
132andBush
May 15, 2022 12:46 pm

I wonder, out of the Holmes a’Court sorority, which one has the best the best rack?

Bolt ons or real or both?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 15, 2022 12:47 pm

JC, I might have been exaggerating about NASA moonshot maths.
We were talking about PLC coding.
Aside from things like welding robots in a Tesla factory, most of it is about as complex as programming the microwave to cook your baked beans.

JC
JC
May 15, 2022 12:53 pm

Trader blog.

I don’t think it will happen, but as he says bear markets are very, very cruel. Generally, stock valuations shouldn’t be impacted much by politics until they are and this is a time they most certainly are by the most inept, dogmatically leftwing administration since the first two years of Clinton, which was when the Hildabeast was unofficially in charge.

Hiden closed down oil leases in Alaska and the Gulf last week. I’ve been thinking that these hooligans are quietly cheering for a potential recession as they are appalled by economic growth. They actually love high oil prices and the higher the price goes the better because it means it will encourage switching to electric or actually driving less.

Don’t any longer assume the left encourages economic growth as I believe they see it as a cancer on Gaia.

The truth is, markets are trying to discovery a price that can be called a “bottom” based upon valuations. Presently the market s trading 14.5x earnings on a median basis. This is not including the potential 40% decline in earnings. If we factor that in, the market would need to trade about 35% lower in order to be considered “cheap” on a historical basis. This of course is predicated on recession and high unemployment, none of those things are present today. If the economy doesn’t slow to a degree that would reduce earnings by 40% (I am using CSCO’s earnings drawdown in 2002, 2008 as my base case) then markets are 25% cheap right now.

So which is it? I have my assumptions, but like you, I haven’t the slightest fucking idea.

JC
JC
May 15, 2022 12:54 pm

LOl

Bolt ons or real or both?

Both kinds if they look good as plastic can also be fantastic.

Vicki
Vicki
May 15, 2022 12:55 pm

day one I said, the ukies should rush the to the negotiating table and abandon the donbass. would have save 10s of thousands of lives.

No question about it, Zipster. Yet no one in the West – particularly here – seems to have recognised the futility of the belief in a victory to Zelensky in expelling the Russian forces without massive losses – if it was at at all possible.

It is as if no one noticed that there had been an ongoing civil war in eastern Ukraine for the last 8 years. And this is in spite of the loss of Australian lives when the Malaysian airline was shot down in the midst of it all.

JC
JC
May 15, 2022 12:57 pm

Bush, the sorority are basically empty headed imbeciles so there’s nothing else to discuss other than say racks, legs and looks.

Am I being too hostile? Am I being too sexist? I sincerely hope not.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 15, 2022 1:01 pm

I wonder, out of the Holmes a’Court sorority, which one has the best the best rack?

A very good question.
I’ve done the research, Zoe Daniels wins hands down, though she’s a 2 bagger.
Honourable mention to Kate Chaney, Julie Bishop style low hangers there, possible breast binding going on?
https://www.katechaney.com.au

132andBush
132andBush
May 15, 2022 1:03 pm

Am I being too hostile? Am I being too sexist? I sincerely hope not.

Not at all.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 15, 2022 1:04 pm

It is as if no one noticed that there had been an ongoing civil war in eastern Ukraine for the last 8 years. And this is in spite of the loss of Australian lives when the Malaysian airline was shot down in the midst of it all.

So, ceding to Russia all territories Vlad Bae’s troops took immediately after invading was going to somehow sate him and stop him doing it all again in a few years?

Anybody asked Georgia, Dagestan, Chechnya or Armenia how that went?

Vicki
Vicki
May 15, 2022 1:05 pm

Mosman’s trophy-home owners are set to welcome Qantas boss Alan Joyce and his husband Shane Lloyd to the well-heeled neighbourhood after the couple bought a federation mansion on Mosman Bay for $19 million.

Joyce had better avoid taking morning coffee in one of the cafes on the Balmoral esplanade. There are too many ex QANTAS pilots there who hate his guts.

rosie
rosie
May 15, 2022 1:06 pm

Family members seeing Father Stu this afternoon.
Hoping they enjoy.
I’ll see it back in Victoria.
As Roger mentioned, first sign of the sun since I arrived in QLD.

Roger
Roger
May 15, 2022 1:07 pm

day one I said, the ukies should rush the to the negotiating table and abandon the donbass. would have save 10s of thousands of lives.

That would have been the pragmatic solution, but a number of factors prevented it, not least:

Zelensky doesn’t have the authority to cede Ukrainian territory without a referendum.

Putin was not engaged in a “minor incursion” but a major invasion with the goal of taking Kiev and territory in the south, which left the Ukrainians with no option but to defend their homeland. Now they’re not inclined ot make any concessions

As I’ve written before, there’s no shortage of blame to go around for this war; Putin certainly bears much of it, but also France & Germany for not pushing Ukraine to adhere to their agreements in Minsk II and the Americans for their usual inept meddling carried out under the cover of “spreading democracy”.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Cassie of Sydney says: May 14, 2022 at 10:01 am

I don’t know whether others saw Chris Kenny’s interview with Princess Allegra yesterday?

Yep. “Let them eat cake” sums up her comments.

He had to waylay her, she spoke ninety to the dozen & callously waved away the financial pain of the little people with glib one-liners.
No depth, no policy depth whatsoever.

Overbearing pushiness dialled up to Eleventy Eleven.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 15, 2022 1:07 pm

Ed Casesays:
May 15, 2022 at 11:35 am
Here’s another one:
If that massive increase in deaths isn’t caused by
Covid/19 Vaccines,
i’ll suck a dead dog’s dick til it barks.

We’ll require video, or it didn’t happen.

JC
JC
May 15, 2022 1:13 pm

Just so folks are aware, oil closed at $110 a barrel on Friday in the US. The higher it goes, the more the Hiden administration is cheering it on. They’re choking the shit out of oil supplies. Just the most evil sacks of shit in US political history.

And

Trump won.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 15, 2022 1:15 pm

Talk of Spanish food last night prompted me to have chilli egg for breakfast.
Whoa!
Does chilli egg repeat or what!

John H.
John H.
May 15, 2022 1:17 pm

Zipstersays:
May 15, 2022 at 12:43 pm

day one I said, the ukies should rush the to the negotiating table and abandon the donbass. would have save 10s of thousands of lives.

Alternatively “My bad, I’ll recall all the troops now.” The argument put forward here, that Ukraine should raise the white flag, were the same arguments against Britain continuing to fight after the fall of France. Calling it quits would have emboldened Putin and forced Ukrainians to accept a government doing Russia’s bidding.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 15, 2022 1:17 pm

Joyce had better avoid taking morning coffee in one of the cafes on the Balmoral esplanade. There are too many ex QANTAS pilots there who hate his guts.

Much as I can’t stand Joyce, Qantas did need a shake-up, including the drivers.

rosie
rosie
May 15, 2022 1:18 pm

Scambled or fried?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 15, 2022 1:18 pm

Top Ender says:
May 15, 2022 at 12:10 pm
The Shit Towns of Oz weekly is out, with Mt Gambier leading the list for this:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-10/court-hears-driver-had-sex-with-passenger-during-police-pursuit/101052270

Very neat and tidy place The Mount.
There’s a big timber industry that attracts some keen bogan lifestylers.
The police would be second in line with ‘impounding’ the vehicle.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Much as I can’t stand Joyce, Qantas did need a shake-up, including the drivers.

Correct.

rosie
rosie
May 15, 2022 1:21 pm

I looked the recipe up.
Apparently the eggs are baked.
I might have to make some.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 15, 2022 1:21 pm

Calling it quits would have emboldened Putin and forced Ukrainians to accept a government doing Russia’s bidding.
Uke Army will be surrendering in droves by the end of the month, why not call a ceasefire now and save a few thousand Conscript lives?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 15, 2022 1:23 pm

THIS Kate Chaney?

Acknowledgment of Country

Kate Chaney acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land the Whadjuk people. She wishes to acknowledge their continuing culture and the contribution they make to the life of this city and region. Sovereignty was never ceded.

miltonf
miltonf
May 15, 2022 1:23 pm

So JC should I hang onto my Exxon Mobil shares or cut loose?

miltonf
miltonf
May 15, 2022 1:27 pm

Me too Rosie

miltonf
miltonf
May 15, 2022 1:29 pm

The silvertails seem to have become lefties, I guess it’s from the ‘bogans shouldn’t have nice things’ mindset.

Bluey
Bluey
May 15, 2022 1:34 pm

rosiesays:
May 15, 2022 at 1:26 pm
Crap economic policies or not I hope he takes a lot of votes from the majors, especially Labor.

In an unprecedented move, Clive Palmer has negotiated has a deal with Australia’s three commercial FTA broadcasters to secure the right to broadcast a 1-hour commercial promoting his political party in the lead up to election day.

I very much like that he appears to be having everyday aussies stand in the seats he’s contesting. Unlike the teal “independents”, or the Liberal/Labor parachuting a party loyalist in.

Bluey
Bluey
May 15, 2022 1:34 pm

arrrgghghhh. quote fail.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 15, 2022 1:35 pm

Uke Army will be surrendering in droves by the end of the month, why not call a ceasefire now and save a few thousand Conscript lives?

The world’s top military strategist, Field Marshal Sir Dickless Ballsup, VD and scratch, has reviewed the chicken entrails to bring you this valuable insight.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 15, 2022 1:35 pm

Uke Army will be surrendering in droves by the end of the month, why not call a ceasefire now and save a few thousand Conscript lives?

Grigory feints as well as the Russian Army does…

miltonf
miltonf
May 15, 2022 1:35 pm

Before it went full on PC, Qantas under the leprechaun was actually a pretty good airline. Will probably try out Rex next time I fly

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 15, 2022 1:36 pm

Scotty announces $50 grand drawdown from Super for first Home Buyers.
Let’s see if Albanese is game to match that?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

The silvertails seem to have become lefties, I guess it’s from the ‘bogans shouldn’t have nice things’ mindset.

The same people who bunged on a proper tantrum when .. hi-viz swamped the Qantas Frequent Flyer’s Lounge.

Turned out it was supposed to be a social barrier & flying frequently wasn’t meant to be the criterion for entry.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 15, 2022 1:38 pm

Correct.
Chilli egg is baked in a ramekin.
Might have to adjust the chilli.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 15, 2022 1:40 pm

Crap economic policies or not I hope he takes a lot of votes from the majors, especially Labor.

It couldn’t hurt.

While it may well be all but impossible to wrest the reins of the ALP from the hard-left, greens and their union allies no matter how hard they get dashed on the rocks of reality, a decent internal pendulum swing away from Photios-brand Liberal members might make them a workable political faction once again.

And the Photios-ites can all go form a party with the Teals. Simon can pay for all their champagne and nibblies.

#Hopium

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 15, 2022 1:41 pm

Calling it quits would have emboldened Putin and forced Ukrainians to accept a government doing Russia’s bidding.
How many dead Ukie Conscripts up against Russian Artillery would it
take before a ceasefire and negotiations becomes a good idea?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 15, 2022 1:41 pm

#Hopium

Tag added because Rex is a hopelessly cockeyed optimist when it comes to the venal stupidity of politics…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 15, 2022 1:42 pm

miltonfsays:

May 15, 2022 at 1:35 pm

Before it went full on PC, Qantas under the leprechaun was actually a pretty good airline. 

For international travel, there is only one problem with Qantas.
The price.
It is actually a boomer-driven thing.
They insist on Q because they have bought into the idea that furrin’ airlines crash 50% of the time, the food is salmonella swill and nobody speaks English.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
May 15, 2022 1:42 pm

Scotty announces $50 grand drawdown from Super for first Home Buyers.

Would like to see the numbers on how many first home buyers have $50k in Super.

Tom
Tom
May 15, 2022 1:44 pm

Am I being too hostile? Am I being too sexist? I sincerely hope not.

Not at all. Holmes a’Court shoukl have called his sugarbabes the Rich Bimbos party. They all look like Hollywood b-listers, too: high-maintenance , flat-chested, empty-headed cash-eaters.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 15, 2022 1:45 pm

Reading on Martyanov’s Blog that surrendering Uke Conscripts are often
Russian speaking Ukes who fled Lugansk for Western Ukraine years ago to avoid the continuous Uke shelling, got conscripted anyway and sent to the front lines.
The Galicians sure don’t give a fuck how many of these guys die.

John H.
John H.
May 15, 2022 1:46 pm

Ed Casesays:
May 15, 2022 at 1:41 pm
Calling it quits would have emboldened Putin and forced Ukrainians to accept a government doing Russia’s bidding.
How many dead Ukie Conscripts up against Russian Artillery would it
take before a ceasefire and negotiations becomes a good idea?

Negotiations are always a good idea but the assumption that Putin was only interested in Donbass is incorrect. The wide front was not a feint it was done in the hope of a quick collapse. Putin wants the whole country. How many Russians must die before Putin decides he should withdraw to protect his people? Why is Zelenskyy responsible for the deaths when Putin started the war?

Winston Smith
May 15, 2022 1:46 pm

Rabz:

Winston, you philistine – there have been few more perfectly proportioned young women in human history.
Miss Ellie, in excelsis.
Not having it, I tells ya.

‘In proportion’ being the operative word Rabz. She’s very pretty – but 5 kilos more wouldn’t go astray.

JC
JC
May 15, 2022 1:46 pm

Ender I’ll reply later .

Milton hold on as oil looks like it’s heading higher.

duncanm
duncanm
May 15, 2022 1:47 pm

Kristina Keneally chewing gum and looking glum at a pre-poll in Fowler where local independent Dai Le is challenging the Labor machine.

that would be the Labor-candidate-to-be before nobody’s girl parachuted in from Scotland Island, yes?

Karma.

Vicki
Vicki
May 15, 2022 1:47 pm

“Much as I can’t stand Joyce, Qantas did need a shake-up”

While I know that it has been a while since anyone travelled OS, but pre-Covid QANTAS in-flight service has become crap compared to its competitors. And that goes for Business class, as well as the basic ticket.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 15, 2022 1:47 pm

Would like to see the numbers on how many first home buyers have $50k in Super.

Not all.
But say you took a grad job at 21 on $45k. That would be $4k super (ish).
A few promotions and payrises and you are on $100k after nine years ($9k super), you would probably have at least $40 – $50k in SGC.
With compound earnings, a 30 year old should have well over $50k.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 15, 2022 1:47 pm

How many dead Ukie Conscripts up against Russian Artillery would it
take before a ceasefire and negotiations becomes a good idea?

Let us know when the Russian Army gets there, Grigory.

There’s been no shortage of Russian artillery for some 8.5 years. And those CoNsCrIpTs haven’t displayed any loss of appetite yet. As the abacus shows…

(Handy hint, Gypsum snorter: Ukes got arty too. Plenty of it at the start. And even more now. That’s what made such a mess of the total victory the Russians had at the Severski-Donets river this week…)

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

For international travel, there is only one problem with Qantas.
The price.

They have to pay unionised Australians.
I feel for them.
Thai/Sia/JAL et al have nice fresh young hosties, who still have optimism in their psyche, & whose job depends on the customer service they gave on the last flight & their off duty conduct.

Qantas boilers are there forever, on astronomical pay & leave scalse.
Hence Qantas is:
Waddaya friggen well want?” From some Mereen Feruqi or Magda Szubanski look-alike.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
May 15, 2022 1:49 pm

Am road tripping from Melb to QLD up the Newell Hwy. so far from the Vic border to Forbes lots of rain, dams full, water sitting on sides of the road and in paddocks. Should be a bumper winter crop ahead. Go you Aussie Farmers!

areff
areff
May 15, 2022 1:51 pm

Teal voters, they’re a bright bunch. The Age reports:

Kooyong independent candidate Monique Ryan’s decision not to allocate preferences on her how-to-vote cards is leading to invalid votes, prompting fears the confusion could hurt her chances of snatching the seat from Treasurer Josh Frydenberg.

Ryan’s campaign, which has repeatedly stated that as few as 500 votes could decide the result, has been alarmed because some early voters have informed Ryan’s volunteers that they voted “1” for Ryan and did not allocate preferences to others.

A volunteer for Ryan’s campaign has suggested as many as “thousands” of ballots cast for Ryan could be invalid, potentially derailing her bid to unseat Frydenberg, who has spent the final weeks of the campaign in his electorate amid concerns the challenge from Ryan could be successful…..

Zipster
Zipster
May 15, 2022 1:51 pm

Alternatively “My bad, I’ll recall all the troops now.” The argument put forward here, that Ukraine should raise the white flag, were the same arguments against Britain continuing to fight after the fall of France. Calling it quits would have emboldened Putin and forced Ukrainians to accept a government doing Russia’s bidding.

that’s a nonsensical analogy. russia is not a nazi germany, ukraine is the nazi state that was preparing to attack its own ppl.

the ukrainians voted for peace they got an actor on a short leash that has led them into a war they can’t win. the death toll is well into the 10s of thousands and supposedly rising by 500 a day. at this rate the donbass army will be wiped out to the last man in about 3 months.

there is absolutely no reason why the ukes would reject a neutral or russian aligned government, it is the west led subversive colour revolutions that agitate for conflict.

the fall of the soviet union did not result in a free market western democracy, neither will the fall of the current regime, and it has a lot more to lose.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 15, 2022 1:51 pm

Would like to see the numbers on how many first home buyers have $50k in Super.
Well, there’s 3 Trillion in the pot, 12 million workers, so that works out an average of $250,000/ worker.
It wouldn’t matter if you only had $40 grand in the account, you could still draw it out for a deposit.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 15, 2022 1:53 pm

Currently checking out airlines for our trip to the USA. One factor is we have lotsa points with Virgin, but they don’t seem to be flying there any more.

Delta, United, and American Airlines all don’t bring back pleasant memories. Could go Quantarse I suppose.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 15, 2022 1:55 pm

but pre-Covid QANTAS in-flight service has become crap compared to its competitors. And that goes for Business class, as well as the basic ticket.

And the ticket price is 25% over the odds.
Loyalty means nothing to us. We just pick the most suitable airline for our destination.
In the last few years we have flown Swiss-Austrian, Cathay, Singapore, Air NZ and others.
Some better than others, but all pretty good.
I didn’t miss not being talked down to by an eye-rolling battleaxe or a mincing queen at all.
I always look at Q, but it is eye-watering expensive.
If you were looking at Business Class to Europe, most fares would be bunched around $5,500 – $6,000, with a few cheaper ones for multiple stops.
Q was always $8-$9k.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 15, 2022 1:56 pm

Winston, you philistine – there have been few more perfectly proportioned young women in human history.
Miss Ellie, in excelsis.

Bah, humbug.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 15, 2022 1:56 pm

Why is Zelenskyy responsible for the deaths when Putin started the war?
Are you saying that Zelensky should never quit because he didn’t start it?
That’s nuts.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 15, 2022 1:57 pm

TE.
How does Air New Zealand look?
I would take them over Q any day.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 15, 2022 1:58 pm

Teal voters, they’re a bright bunch

Too thick to read the instructions on the ballot paper – serves them right..

areff
areff
May 15, 2022 1:58 pm

Qantas, world champ at losing passengers’ bags, especially if you have to make the Oz-bound switch at LAX. And they’re really stingy with upgrades, even they lost your luggage on each of the previous five flights*

*personal experiecne

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 15, 2022 1:59 pm

areffsays:

May 15, 2022 at 1:51 pm

Teal voters, they’re a bright bunch.

I’m sure some helpful AEC staff-member will join the dots on the incomplete ballots.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 15, 2022 1:59 pm

Why is Zelenskyy responsible for the deaths when Putin started the war?

Because the vast majority of right-leaning folks barracking for a Russian victory right now are psychically punishing Ukraine for the sins of the US Democrats from 2016 to now. They only got interested in the Obama-era activity to further justify their Opposition To The Current Thing.

The Russiagate bullshit started with a Ukranian PR firm paid by Hillary to tip the political balance.

Democrat wonks and Big Persons had been cultivating contacts and influence there, and raking in the dosh from them since 2014. Hunter Biden is but one example.

And allegedly the entire EuroMaidan is exclusively the Americans’ fault, too.*

The average Ukrainian doesn’t get (and isn’t allowed) a say in any of this prognostication. And these folks take great offence at the fact that for the last 80 or so days (and 8 years before that), the average Ukrainian has been saying their piece on the matter. Quite loudly…

[* Though this was all apparently okay before 2021.]

sfw
sfw
May 15, 2022 2:00 pm

Bluey, the UAP has selected ordinary people for most of the seats and they are working hard, (I know a few), however a big problem showed up in the last week or so. For months they have been campaigning on ‘never trust the majors again’ and ‘sitting member last’. Their HTV cards came out late and the candidates were in the main not asked for what they thought would be good, some committee somewhere did the preference orders for all seats. Most candidates didn’t even know what their preferences were until the cards arrived. Many are very disappointed as in many seats the UAP have put the Libs well up on the tickets, often in front of One Nation and other ‘freedom’ candidates.

Clive was on TV and said that this may have happened in some electorates where few candidates were on the ballot but it also happened in seats with up to 10 candidates. More than a few unhappy UAP people out there. Many had their volunteers refuse to hand out the cards or do any more work. Many of those affected are now running a quite campaign and won’t be at any polling booths at all. Talk about an own goal from Clive.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Too thick to read the instructions on the ballot paper – serves them right..

The official who checks you off the electoral roll & hands you the ballot paper, verbally issues clear, concise instructions to mark all squares, numerically in order of your choice, leaving no square unfilled.

That has been the case at every booth I’ve voted at, ever.

How dumb are these people?

duncanm
duncanm
May 15, 2022 2:02 pm

Totem tests

Interesting factoid…

Centurion tank 169041 was less than half a km from the Totem explosion with engine running and test dummies inside.

It was shipped off to the Vietnam war for action, and is now in Robertson Barracks in the NT.

Centurion 169041

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 15, 2022 2:02 pm

A volunteer for Ryan’s campaign has suggested as many as “thousands” of ballots cast for Ryan could be invalid, potentially derailing her bid to unseat Frydenberg, who has spent the final weeks of the campaign in his electorate amid concerns the challenge from Ryan could be successful…..

So …
Just like Burnside’s “candidacy”, this wasn’t a serious attempt to dislodge Frydenburg, but a heading off at the pass of any real Independent candidate, plus a drain on funds to defend other Liberal seats and challenge in Labor seats.
No surprise really.
Why would Ryan wanna swap a Million Bucks a year as a Pediatric Neurologist for a meaningless gig on the Crossbenches?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 15, 2022 2:04 pm

areffsays:

May 15, 2022 at 1:58 pm

Qantas, world champ at losing passengers’ bags

A number of flights took off from Melbourne leaving baggage behind a couple of weeks ago.
They blamed short-staffing, but I also suspect some union skullduggery as well.
The next week ads appeared on Facebook promoting Qantas insurance, featuring an animation of a baggage carousel.
Fuck, did it cop a pasting.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Qantas, world champ at losing passengers’ bags, especially if you have to make the Oz-bound switch at LAX. And they’re really stingy with upgrades, even they lost your luggage on each of the previous five flights*

My luggage has been to many more places than I have.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 15, 2022 2:06 pm

areff.
What odds these teal voters would describe themselves as “sophisticated and nuanced” in their voting patterns.
Because that is the phrase they heard in the vegan cafe that morning.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 15, 2022 2:08 pm

If there is anything I need really badly at the other end I have duplicates.
One in the hold and one in the carry on bag.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 15, 2022 2:09 pm

The official who checks you off the electoral roll & hands you the ballot paper, verbally issues clear, concise instructions to mark all squares, numerically in order of your choice, leaving no square unfilled.
Bullshit.
Voted yesterday, all they say is number 6 above the line or 12 below the line, that’s only because I asked them what the system is this year.
In fact, it’s a minimum of 12 below the line, but the AEC drones are too lazy to tell you that.
Why, I hear you ask?
Because the AEC is an arm of the Labor Party and Labor voters are the most disciplined of all voters, they follow the HTV in 249 of 250 cases.
Everybody else is therefore a non Labor voter, so if they unwittingly vote Informally it’s a Win for Labor.

custard
custard
May 15, 2022 2:11 pm

The owners of the website https://www.bidenlaptopemails.com/ are claiming that they are getting 15 search requests a second.

They also state that the word Ukraine generates 44 results/pages of emails. Lol

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 15, 2022 2:13 pm

Alexander Downer in the Speccie..

Alexander Downer
New Aussie rules: Conservative values have fallen out of fashion

To which my response would be “how can you tell, as the one party which was supposed to be conservative isnt’.

Its actually a semi-sensible article by Downer

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 15, 2022 2:13 pm

there is absolutely no reason why the ukes would reject a neutral or russian aligned government,

If only the Russians hadn’t spent the last 8 years using the Donbass and its citizens (regardless of who and what they view themselves as- Ukrainian or Russian) as a fig leaf for trying to take all of Eastern Ukraine by force.

You need a very big and sweet political carrot for your neighbours to accept your stated benignity, Zipster, if your stick is going to be years of Motorised and Tank Brigades attacking out of the territory you took from them by a mixture of political guile, exploiting legitimate popular grievances and brute forcing anyone there who didn’t fall in line with your actual plan. And there’s been no carrot for anyone.

No matter what RT, Pravda and Sergei Lavrov say…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 15, 2022 2:16 pm

there is absolutely no reason why the ukes would reject a neutral or russian aligned government,

…Except for February 24, 2022.

Vicki
Vicki
May 15, 2022 2:17 pm

https://joannenova.com.au/2022/05/would-350-million-from-big-pharma-be-enough-to-buy-fauci-and-nih-approval-who-knows-its-a-sec

Multiply this around the western world. This is big, big bikkies. Enough to influence significant people and entities to abandon any sense of conscience, and yet claim public health protection.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 15, 2022 2:18 pm

More than a few unhappy UAP people out there. Many had their volunteers refuse to hand out the cards or do any more work. Many of those affected are now running a quite campaign and won’t be at any polling booths at all. Talk about an own goal from Clive.

Many, eh?

Plenty of motivated youngsters handing out UAP HTVs at St. Stephen’s Church in Cav Rd yesterday arve.
I’m calling bullshit on you, sfw.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 15, 2022 2:21 pm

I’m sure some helpful AEC staff-member will join the dots on the incomplete ballots.
Nailed it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 15, 2022 2:22 pm

thefrollickingmolesays:

May 15, 2022 at 2:13 pm

Alexander Downer in the Speccie..

Alexander Downer
New Aussie rules: Conservative values have fallen out of fashion

Partially because of white-anting by arsewipes like him, trying to suck up to the Crimtons by setting up one of Trump’s campaign staff.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 15, 2022 2:23 pm

Ed Casesays:

May 15, 2022 at 2:21 pm

I’m sure some helpful AEC staff-member will join the dots on the incomplete ballots.
Nailed it.

Please don’t damage my cred by affirming my posts Googlery.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 15, 2022 2:23 pm

How does Air New Zealand look?

They aren’t flying to NY at present. We could of course fly to LAX – I think they go there – and then go internal across to NY.

My travel sec is onto it – she does most of the research. I supply a list of battlefields and museums and so on, of course, in a kindly fashion. (This is actually a research trip on WWII bombers in reality….)

calli
calli
May 15, 2022 2:24 pm

Visited Darwin Military Museum this morning – great place with many interactive displays. They also have a 13 minute feature on the bombing which was excellent. Good to see taxes spent wisely. Outside there’s a stack of old equipment and one particularly poignant one – an old rusted vehicle under a monstrous banyan tree with trunks coming up out of it. A tool of war returning to nature.

I bought two of Top Ender’s books from the little shop (my brush with celebrity!). Dad will get them for his 91st birthday.

We also did the tunnels but the Beloved had an asthma attack and had to get out. I soldiered on, natch. They were a familiar shape reminiscent of Baselgette’s London sewers – then I discovered why. The formwork used to construct them was stuff from the MWS&DB Sydney, all egg shaped.

Then on to the Aviation museum – and the B52 towering over all the other little planes like a chook with her clutch of fledglings. Bought a book there, too – on the Black Cats. My uncle featured in it, so will give it to the New Broom, his namesake.

Mindil markets this afternoon. Promise not to buy scented candles or other hippie crud.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
May 15, 2022 2:25 pm

Baggagewise I haven’t had too many problems with the Red Roo.

1 lost bag that I knew was left behind in BNE when I arrived at Blackwater. Even the next day with the DH8 in the air they still couldn’t tell me where thee bag was, till the flight landed and said errant bag unloaded.

Other time Transiting MEL-PER-SIN, B747 had a problem with aircon which would have had us missing the SIN connection. An A330 and crew was found setting us on our way but said bags were buried deep in the baggage bins in the B747. We were prewarned we would have baggage till it could be found and sent, 2am the next morning reception in Singapore rang saying our bags had been dropped in the foyer.

Had a couple of damaged bags that wasn’t a problem, was duly compensated. I agree with the above though on the Red Roo, Joyce despite being rumours I have heard he is one you are on eggshells around he has done a good job of turning the airline around. I particularly liked the shut down, I was in Singapore when I found out about it but was flying Jetstar fortunately.

rosie
rosie
May 15, 2022 2:26 pm

I was pretty happy with Qantas business class Singapore to Melbourne (only Qantas leg I flew) back in March, though I thought the pork chop is the main at dinner was a little dry.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
May 15, 2022 2:27 pm

On the House of Reps green form all boxes must be marked with a number 1 to however many candidates are listed. In our local electorate Chisholm we have 6 candidates so it needs to be 1 to 6. However if you only number 1 to 5 the remaining box is left blank the ARC advised it is inferred to be 6 and included for the count.
If the form is marked 1 only it is declared invalid and not included at all.
Bit of tough love there teals.

calli
calli
May 15, 2022 2:27 pm

New Aussie rules: Conservative values have fallen out of fashion

Lie. Conservative politicians have all but disappeared.

Still plenty of people with conservative values.

But they don’t matter.

Zipster
Zipster
May 15, 2022 2:28 pm

If only the Russians hadn’t spent the last 8 years using the Donbass and its citizens (regardless of who and what they view themselves as- Ukrainian or Russian) as a fig leaf for trying to take all of Eastern Ukraine by force.

You need a very big and sweet political carrot for your neighbours to accept your stated benignity, Zipster, if your stick is going to be years of Motorised and Tank Brigades attacking out of the territory you took from them by a mixture of political guile, exploiting legitimate popular grievances and brute forcing anyone there who didn’t fall in line with your actual plan. And there’s been no carrot for anyone.

No matter what RT, Pravda and Sergei Lavrov say…

it’s quite baffling how some can hold their nose and support neo-nazis, its up to the russian people to fix their own problems with its regime. the only way the west can make it happen is war and to invade, same with china

perhaps that’s the end game

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 15, 2022 2:29 pm

My publishers and I thank you Calli!

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 15, 2022 2:30 pm

This is actually a research trip on WWII bombers in reality….

Confederate Air Force visits pending, TE? 🙂

‘Fifi’ the B-29 would be an incredible sight in the flesh…

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 15, 2022 2:30 pm

Joyce had better avoid taking morning coffee in one of the cafes on the Balmoral esplanade. There are too many ex QANTAS pilots there who hate his guts.

Don’t want the shih tzu getting a kick up the date.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 15, 2022 2:35 pm

it’s quite baffling how some can hold their nose and support neo-nazis, its up to the russian people to fix their own problems with its regime.

You need to do better than breathe Russian cope at me, Zip.

And didn’t you mean Ukrainian people?

Given that FaScIsT, ImPeRiAlIsT and NaZi are all standard slurs used since 1941 against anyone and anything any Russian establishment du jour doesn’t like?

Wasn’t the whole idea at the start of Feb was to De-NaZiFy Ukraine, i.e. get rid of everyone Vlad Bae doesn’t like and reinstall people he does?

Zipster
Zipster
May 15, 2022 2:35 pm

Former US president Donald Trump’s prediction about George Washington and the “efforts of the haters to expunge him from history” has come “perfectly true,” Sky News host James Morrow says.

“First, cast your mind back to 2017, the early days of the Trump administration, when the then-president got into a fight with reporters over the Maoist attempts of the left to erase American history,” Mr Morrow said.

“At the time so-called expert historians said that Trump was just being his normal hyperbolic self and that there was absolutely positively no way revolutionary general and first president of the United States George Washington, or any other of the founding fathers for that matter, might be next on the cancel train.

“Not only is George Washington next, but there is now even a push on to rename even Washington DC’s George Washington University.

“The latest call for this has just been published in, wait for it, The Washington Post.”

“What are often derided as petty culture war fights are actually so important and worth being had because it’s not just important to look at whatever the demand being made around the current thing is in isolation – but to understand where it is heading next.”

rosie
rosie
May 15, 2022 2:36 pm

Kosta from Gardening Australia also gets a gig on some ABC kids program.
How amaze.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 15, 2022 2:36 pm

the only way the west can make it happen is war and to invade, same with china

Sergei Lavrov wants his script back…

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 15, 2022 2:37 pm

No Mabo issues for Kate Chaney in Curtin. Unless the are trying to get something away on the ASX.

Winston Smith
May 15, 2022 2:38 pm

Important rebuttal from Abbott – the infant formulae manufacturer.
So why has the government not allowed their production centers to open?
This looks like deliberate sabotage of the food chain to me.

Zipster
Zipster
May 15, 2022 2:38 pm

Wasn’t the whole idea at the start of Feb was to De-NaZiFy Ukraine, i.e. get rid of everyone Vlad Bae doesn’t like and reinstall people he does?

and why is that our problem? where was the internation over-reaction when he invaded crimea, these areas consider themselves more ethnic russian than uke.

there is something foul an odious about the obsession with ukraine by the left and other supporters because national sovereignty or some such rubbish

calli
calli
May 15, 2022 2:39 pm

Ahahaha! The Beloved gave me a look when I yodelled “Top Ender” at the top of my voice when I saw the row of books.

Anyway, I bought the Sheehan and War at Home. Dad will love them. The third was on the loss of A24-49. It had some photos with my uncle in it so I couldn’t resist.

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 15, 2022 2:40 pm

Thanks JC. Regarding Downer, his association with and his channelling our money to Clinton means I wouldn’t piss on him if he was on fire.

Winston Smith
May 15, 2022 2:51 pm

Feelthebern:

Abbott Labs are on the front foot saying the two babies that died had nothing to do with their formula.
How long before someone inside the FDA spills the beans on the whole thing.

Looks like being a disaster for the Democrats.
People will forgive or accept a lot of shit, but don’t tamper with their kids.
These are the areas that are arousing the primal instincts of many US voters:
.1 Infant formulae,
.2 Child indoctrination,
.3 Abortion,
.4 ‘Safe Schools’.

The facts, however, are critical: A comprehensive investigation by Abbott, FDA and CDC found no evidence that our formulas caused infant illnesses. Specifically… [2/11]
So why has the government not allowed their production centers to open?
This looks like deliberate sabotage of the food chain to me.

CDC concluded its investigation with no findings of a link between our formulas and infant illnesses.

Diogenes
Diogenes
May 15, 2022 2:54 pm

I’m sure some helpful AEC staff-member will join the dots on the incomplete ballots.
Nailed it.

Ffs this old canard. Why don’t all of you who cast aspersions like this get off your collective arses and apply to work at an election and you can see what happens.

Bullshit.
Voted yesterday, all they say is number 6 above the line or 12 below the line, that’s only because I asked them what the system is this year.
In fact, it’s a minimum of 12 below the line, but the AEC drones are too lazy to tell you that.

Sheesh they allow you to vote ?
You are confusing the instructions for the Reps with the Senate instructions.

Also the lazy drones, as you put it, are reading the script they have been given. I bet you butted in being a smart arse before they had a chance to deliver the spiel. Because of morons like you who can’t tell the difference between the HoR and Senate, the instructions are simplified and tell you what you need to do for a valid vote. At the last election I worked people could not tell the difference between green and white and put their ballots in the wrong boxes.

Oh come on
Oh come on
May 15, 2022 2:54 pm

Pelosi Opens Liquor Store In Congress

Lol one of the interns must have forgetten to fax through Nancy’s weekly booze order. Imagine the scene: she rolls into the office one morning and, as always, heads straight to the liquor cabinet to mix her breakfast martini…and it’s totally freaking Mother Hubbard! Can you imagine the substances she had to consume to get her through the time it took for her people to procure the day’s supplies? Nail polish remover, whiteboard cleaner, paint stripper…her lipstick must have been extra smeared at that afternoon’s presser.

Oh come on
Oh come on
May 15, 2022 2:58 pm

There is little point discussing the Russian invasion of Ukraine. It’s become one of Scott Adams’s ‘one screen, two movies’ issues.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 15, 2022 2:59 pm

and why is that our problem?

Destroying Ukraine as a people and a nation won’t bring Donald Trump back.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

*slap forehead* – most common imperial measure in use, understood & used by all ages, is;
pounds per square inch.
Just juiced up at a servo. (Eighth servo in the recent past.)
Checking the tyres & realised the servo’s gauge is in lbs/sq in, with no hectapascal option.
As has been every servo.

This switch to full metric may take longer than first anticipated.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 15, 2022 3:01 pm

Daily Mail.

Anthony Albanese in ANOTHER blunder after saying Australia’s lowest earners will get $1 extra a WEEK instead of per hour under his plan to boost wages

Anthony Albanese made serious blunder on TV about minimum wage pay rise
He claimed wage increase would lead to $1 extra a week – instead of every hour
Insiders host David Speers was forced to correct Mr Albanese following blunder

Albo’s cracking under the pressure..

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 15, 2022 3:01 pm

I bought two of Top Ender’s books from the little shop

Woo-hoo!
Airfare upgrade!

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

House of Reps procedural issue, & Ed Casement responds with the Senate rules.
As dumb as a Teals voter.

Oh come on
Oh come on
May 15, 2022 3:04 pm

Anyway, in order to ensure that never happens again, Nancy decided to open her own liquor store in Congress so the litres of scotch, gin and brandy she imbibes every day are never more than minutes from her desk.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 15, 2022 3:04 pm

Perhaps Zipster, some things in geopolitics vastly transcend the domestic travails of one side or the other.

Sleepy Joe’s administration and the [Il-]Liberal Left establishment won’t collapse over this in the way a lot of people wish.

But all of Europe is watching and changing its mind about its own equilibrium. Especially those who stand to again become the new frontier states of a belligerent power with openly and repeatedly stated imperial ambitions.

What stopped it before now was the projection of strength from the US. Now we don’t have it, and any and all decent people beneath the feckless and foppish folks on both sides who led us here (just like the 1910s and 1930s) now have to make the best of a very bad situation.

Look further out than The Current Thing.

Oh come on
Oh come on
May 15, 2022 3:06 pm

It’s a terrible shame though, that at the same time the Ukrainian counter-offensive that isn’t real has pushed Vlad Bae’s minions and their Donbassian proxy troops out of Kharkov and over the Russian border (and they wouldn’t let their loyal and heroic Ethnic Russian allies in!) threatening the top of the entire Izyum salient (and thus that entire front), Russian forces are digging in on the Kherson oblast instead of squaring up for a push to Odessa and pro-RU milbloggers on Telegram have finally caught onto the fact that the multiple attempts at crossing the Severskyi Donets this week was a bit of a mess, and are now publicly doubting their own Narrative and commanders

Ukrainian sources confirm this as correct.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
May 15, 2022 3:06 pm

The below Youtube clip popped up on my feed today.

MP Craig Kelly clashes with Ally over COVID-19 claims | Today Show Australia 3 FEB 21
Liberal MP Craig Kelly has clashed with Today Show host Ally Langdon over the spread of misinformation of COVID-19.

Was interesting as Kelly stood his ground and was quoting Prof Robert Clancy (see several articles by him at Quadrant Online). Langdon pretty much said everything Kelly was saying was misinformation and this included Hydrochloxychorline (spelling) which as subsequently been approved for Covid use in Qld.

Langdon is the perfect example of how MSM have tried to shut down anything that questions the Government line.

Winston Smith
May 15, 2022 3:07 pm

Tom:

Just another bunch of rich fruit loops scared of the weather using the federal election to get oxygen. Australia is becoming the world capital of the doomsday cult.

I’m waiting for the Giant Alien Starships to appear above the planet and announce:
“O.K. Earthens. The experiment is over. You have failed. Please vacate our property, the planet Earth. Anyone still here in one hour will be disintegrated. Idiots.”
tap tap.
“Is this thing still on?”

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 15, 2022 3:07 pm

LOL.

That’s ok. I look forward to the proclamations next month that Severodonetsk was never really the target anyway (it was Budapest!), and Popasnaya was actually a feint…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 15, 2022 3:08 pm

(it was Budapest!)

(I wanted to say Melbourne, but that would be silly. Why would the Russians want such a grey place as that? They’ve plenty of grey places at home already…)

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 15, 2022 3:12 pm

So why has the government not allowed their production centers to open?
This looks like deliberate sabotage of the food chain to me.

It might be closer to the iCook Foods debacle, except that the Administration’s chosen ‘winner’/crony can’t keep up…

Winston Smith
May 15, 2022 3:15 pm

Calli:
A little song for the New Liberals.
A much better one.

Oh come on
Oh come on
May 15, 2022 3:15 pm

I’m just going to post a few comments.

Oh come on
Oh come on
May 15, 2022 3:16 pm

We’re nearing the turn of the page.

Tom
Tom
May 15, 2022 3:17 pm

In the mornings, I listen to the racing station because it’s the only place I can find without smartarse knowall leftards spouting arrogant bullshit about politics.

Likewise in the past few days, the SBS cooking channel (171 on Foxtel) has been a culinary escape from politics, but the retards have destroyed that sanctuary just now by having smartarse knowall academic parasite Bruce Pascoe as a guest.

On a frigging cooking show. Click. FMD.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 15, 2022 3:17 pm

I’m not sure Ally Langdon is there for her independent point of view.

Oh come on
Oh come on
May 15, 2022 3:17 pm

People are holding off commenting, lest their hot takes are lost forever on the previous page.

Oh come on
Oh come on
May 15, 2022 3:19 pm

Imagine the missed upticks.

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