Open Thread – Tues 7 June 2022


The Women of Algiers in their Apartment, Eugene Delacroix, 1834

1,915 responses to “Open Thread – Tues 7 June 2022”

  1. Vicki Avatar
    Vicki

    bern –
    Sorry that my previous post was so clumsily put together.

    You are best to go to the FLCCC website where the post vax protocol is set out more usefully!

    Take care.

  2. Struth Avatar

    Thanks Vicki, I posted that this morning as well.
    Strange how Ivermectin is mentioned as well.
    The old horse medicine according to the left who were against using it.
    The left.
    The ones who pushed this crime all along.
    The ones who are to blame.
    The global socialist left.
    And those that submitted to them.

  3. Vicki Avatar
    Vicki

    Thanks Vicki, but I’m on top of it.
    The reality is, I’ve got a whole supplement regime already.

    Fantastic.

    Hopefully it will defeat that bloody Spike!!!

  4. Rockdoctor Avatar
    Rockdoctor

    Bern, they gave you a stress test on treadmill. How my anterior artery blockage was found… Had family with other heart issues, wolf-parkinson is one. Keep digging, some problems aren’t obvious and some cardio’s need polite badgering to dig deeper. I had to with me as I have family history, my cardio a good dude South African but thought I was too young. Yeah na, if it hadn’t been found I would be pushing up daisys now.

    Good luck.

  5. Struth Avatar

    Thanks for being honest, Feel the Burn.
    You may just have saved someone contemplating getting a booster.

  6. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    All perfectly normal, nothing to see here! Just found out:

    Vaxed mate was at the Doctors yesterday for a check / investigation. Started having a heart attack while hooked up to the ECG. Got him to emergency, spent night in hospital, back home now, minor damage to heart.

    Was caused be an “interaction” between two medications he’s been taking for 6 years…..

  7. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    feelthebernsays:
    June 9, 2022 at 3:03 pm

    /puts on medic hat… reminds Bern I am not a doctor…

    Bern this sounds a lot to me like a classic panic attack.
    Have seen a few over the years, symptoms describe a lot like you are but ecgs come out normal.
    Even why they are on the machine and still experiencing symptoms and sensations.
    Which is sort of the giveaway, if the ECG is good, TROP T test is fine and other bloods/vitals are all normal its sort of the default diagnosis.

    This is not a slight on you, its just what some peoples bodies do when they are feeling stressed or “out of control” over a period of time.
    Mention it to your GP as something worth trying to at least rule out.

  8. Keith Forwheels Avatar
    Keith Forwheels

    I’m reluctant to share my story but here goes.

    Get Zipster’s email from Dover and talk to him, or you’re welcome to also talk to me. What you are describing is similar to what I’ve been through, although what led up to it is different. But there are likely things you can do to give yourself better odds until you can access treatment. Whatever you do, do not ignore what your body is telling you. Do not do that, and do not assume it can’t get worse faster than you think.

  9. Megan Avatar
    Megan

    Sorry to read that, FTB. Oldest son has endured similar, with equally similar responses from the medical profession. Has subsequently refused to be boosted.

    Hope things improve for you, soonest.

  10. johanna Avatar
    johanna

    JC says:
    June 9, 2022 at 12:16 pm

    The unfortunate problem with mask mandates is the tracking data doesn’t show any discernible drops in transmission on introduction or lifting.
    The advice from medical authorities is little better than, “trust me I’m a doctor”

    You can’t reach that conclusion Gez unless you had say two exact identical countries with exact copies of every single thing to the atom.

    Demanding that people meet impossible standards of proof is a sign of a weak argument.

    There is plenty of evidence that the cheap, mass produced muzzles that most people wore (and some are still wearing) have holes that are way too big to stop tiny viruses. OTOH, wearing them for long periods is a great way to accumulate bacteria and restrict healthy breathing. This is particularly concerning when germ factory kids are involved. You don’t think their grubby little fingers get on and inside the masks?

    The mask thing was theatre, and there is no evidence that places that enforced masks had lower rates of serious COVID than those that didn’t, other things being roughly equal.

  11. Vicki Avatar
    Vicki

    Struth says:
    June 9, 2022 at 3:43 pm
    Thanks Vicki, I posted that this morning as well.
    Strange how Ivermectin is mentioned as well.

    Yep. Criminally, it has been unavailable in this country in tablet form for human use. Husband and I have applied a calculated measure of the Ivermectin “pour-on” that we use for externally drenching our cows. With cattle, it is only active for 30 days. Husband got a very, very mild bout of Covid a month or two ago & I didn’t contract it at all. Who knows?

    BTW we have been taking the recommended supplements & an anti-histamine (plus daily blender mix of fruit & veges together with probiotic) since Covid first appeared here.

  12. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    H B Bear says:
    June 9, 2022 at 2:41 pm
    Good lord!
    Just over one million dollars retail for a new Case self propelled boom sprayer.
    Think of the depreciation. The government is practically giving you free money.

    Free money?
    You mean my profit is reduced so I pay less tax and hopefully that aides the averaging schedule.
    The big “free” kick to business on accelerated depreciation is good, don’t get me wrong, but Ag gear is a a big depreciable item because they depreciate in a big way through wear and tear or being superseded.

  13. JC Avatar
    JC

    Struth says:
    June 9, 2022 at 3:28 pm

    Feel the Burn…..you were warned, you dumb bastard.
    You will, as all will, pay dearly for submitting to this.
    You are already starting to.
    Others will be getting different cancers, or suddenly dying with clots etc.

    This is what you get from generational Queersland inbreeding and a education that went all the way to 8th grade. Queersland intellectual elite.

  14. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    Is someone upthread disrespectin’ publicans?
    Struth how dare u!
    That’s legit grounds for… ** Jihad **

  15. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    Knuckle Dragger says: June 9, 2022 at 2:48 pm

    Dot. You want ‘white people’ food.
    Mixed grills [& the rest]

    That’s pretty much it in this post-covid era of Albanese hardship.

    A far cry from what I was serving pre-covid.

  16. JC Avatar
    JC

    Lol, Driller’s trying to set up a pile one with Rubber Duck.

    10:4 Drills.

  17. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Mole, dude, I don’t have panic attacks.
    I give them.
    But seriously, never had anything like that before in my life & things are pretty good on the stress/anxiety from ie not much.

    Anyway, it’s not a pity party.
    Eat healthy, exercise, get on with life while pursuing a course of treatment.
    Postive attitude & all that.
    It doesn’t occupy much of my mind or time usually.

  18. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    How much Soros paying you Struth?

  19. Top Ender Avatar
    Top Ender

    They were just trying to go to Biloela!

    A group of 45 asylum seekers has been flown back to Sri Lanka after they unsuccessfully attempted to reach Australia by boat.

    Residents of Christmas Island reportedly said that the group of would-be asylum seekers were brought ashore early Thursday morning by officials they said appeared to be attached to Operation Sovereign Borders.

    According to reports in The Australian, the individuals were taken to a waiting Skytraders Airbus charter flight and sent to Sri Lanka.

    The Department of Home Affairs and Home Affairs Minister Clare O’Neil have been approached for further details including information about whether the group in question managed to reach Australian waters.

    The opposition said that the incident showed that people smugglers would seek to restart their trade with the arrival of a Labor government.

    Daily Tele

  20. JC Avatar
    JC

    How much Soros paying you Struth?

    He’s drawing the dole. George pays him 15 bucks an hour under the table. Keep it quiet.

  21. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    I have spent much of the rest of the day by the fire reading (finally) Ian Plimer’s “Green Murder”.

    If you haven’t already, I strongly recommend The Climate Caper: Facts and Fallacies of Global Warming, by Garth Paltridge.

    Dr Paltridge is a highly credentialed atmospheric physicist – specialising in the thermodynamic principles of energy transfer in the atmosphere – who was Chief Research Officer at CSIRO.

    He was an insider, appalled by the flogs who grabbed control of the climate agenda and distorted physical science into The Science.

    His 2009 book lays out the scientific uncertainty in lay terms and unemotionally dissects the corruption of official science that has led to the hole we are now in.

    Brilliant man. Great book.

  22. Vicki Avatar
    Vicki

    If you haven’t already, I strongly recommend The Climate Caper: Facts and Fallacies of Global Warming, by Garth Paltridge.

    Thanks Dr.Faustus.
    God knows how long it’s going to take me to get through “Green Murder”, though – I’ve just finished the Introduction & that was most of the afternoon!

  23. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    God what a slithering AnAl turd of a creature.

    Straight from the Yank Demonrats.
    They dont have an original idea in their flea skulls

    When even the gruinaid calls you out for bullshit then its pretty ordinary.

    Did the Morrison government try to suppress voting in the Northern Territory?
    Anthony Albanese claims low voter turnout due to Coalition tactics ‘straight out of the right-wing Republican playbook’. Is this true?

    What was the claim?
    Asked about low voter turnout in new Labor MP Marion Scrymgour’s seat, Albanese said:

    It’s not rocket science to know what happened here. They ripped resources out of the electoral commission. There was a deliberate policy of the former government to restrict people voting in the territory. They tried to abolish the seat and we fought very hard to get two seats in the territory. They restricted the numbers of people who were working for the Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) to get people on the roll.

    It was an outrage what occurred and then there was a lack of resources to enable people to vote. We have one vote, one value in this country. It’s an important principle of our democracy and the fact that 66% of people voted, it means that one in three people in the electorate of Lingiari didn’t get to vote. That was a part of the former government’s design. It wasn’t by accident and they should be held to account for it.”
    Albanese promised to review enrolment in conjunction with the Australian Electoral Commission.
    *
    …..
    “They tried to abolish the seat” is not true. An NT seat was to be automatically abolished under legislation because NT fell below entitlement. The previous government fairly quickly agreed with Labor’s push to reinstate it. Had the government done nothing it would have gone. https://t.co/xIzuBLP2P5
    — Kevin Bonham (@kevinbonham) June 8, 2022

    ….
    Did they restrict voting?
    In October 2021, the Coalition introduced a bill to require the electoral commission to ask voters for identification.
    Although it contained some safeguards, such as allowing another enrolled voter with ID to attest to their identity or the voter to cast a declaration vote, the bill was criticised for its likely negative effect on turnout and Indigenous participation.
    **
    ….
    Verdict
    While some criticism of the Coalition’s attempted voter ID bill is justified***, Albanese’s comments fly in the face of rising Indigenous enrolment rates and bipartisan support to restore the NT’s two lower house seats.

    While its true voter turnout is falling in Lingiari, this may be linked to higher enrolment. The independent AEC will review Indigenous participation in the election.
    ….
    *Not suspicious at all.
    ** Indigenous as children, needing their mouths guided towards the desiccated dugs of an ALP vote.
    *** We got nuthin’…

  24. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Farmer Gez I expect the days of using something parked in a paddock for the last 30 years finished some time ago. Depreciation is a bit of a mirage for guys using machinery hard.

  25. Dot Avatar

    You can’t supplement without elk meat. A bald, fractal gnome from Boston told me after a hippie chick I was chasing gave me cookies laced with Jimson Weed.

  26. Zyconoclast Avatar
    Zyconoclast

    Meanwhile in Insanity Central

    European Union upholds proposed 2035 ban on new petrol and diesel cars

    Representatives from the European Union have rejected pressure from the auto industry and voted to uphold a proposed ban on new internal-combustion engine (ICE) cars from 2035.

    An amendment had been presented to the European Parliament which would have required manufacturers to have reduced new-car emissions by 90 per cent by 2035, according to Automotive News Europe, rather than the full 100 per cent originally proposed by the European Commission in 2021.

    However, the 100 per cent target was upheld. While the ban has yet to be written into law, many European carmakers have already indicated their intentions to drop ICE vehicles by 2030 or sooner.

  27. Top Ender Avatar
    Top Ender

    Meanwhile in loonie Melbourne:

    Students and parents have slammed inflexible uniform policies that ban pupils from wearing coats on school grounds while classroom windows are kept open as a Covid safety measure.

    1) The teachers are all Covid-Karens
    2) The kids have never heard of thermal undies

    Herald-Sun

  28. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    The same newspaper that castigates people for being wary around others is happy to encourage hysteria among a certain class of woman.

    Isn’t it frightening that a lone woman seeing a policeman now feels afraid, not reassured?
    Zoe Williams

    ….
    If a women’s citizen army spontaneously masses (like the Irish Citizen Army of 1913, to “learn the police some manners”), the Met needs to hear it, even if it’s shouting, especially when it’s shouting. How can you show that you’re listening if you won’t acknowledge people’s anger?

    Zoe Williams is a Guardian columnist

    She should join Monty on their Malmo LGBT pride march.

  29. JC Avatar
    JC

    However, the 100 per cent target was upheld. While the ban has yet to be written into law, many European carmakers have already indicated their intentions to drop ICE vehicles by 2030 or sooner.

    In 2035, Musk begins to manufacture petrol engines vehicles thereby making him the world’s first trillionaire. That would be so funny.

  30. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    Was told a two year wait for a new Scania.

  31. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    You will, as all will, pay dearly for submitting to this

    Hi Riccardo.

    Just pointing out that Dr. Richard Malone, star of the professionally-edited and produced clip earlier (and many others, notably disseminated en masse by srsrsrrs) has the same qualification as Dr. Norman Swan.

    Their credibility is therefore equal. Unless, of course, you subscribe to the theory of only believing approved doctors.

  32. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    Meanwhile in Insanity Central

    Dear Vlad, Please nuke Brussels. They deserve it for lead free solder alone.

  33. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    This is what you get from generational Queersland inbreeding and a education that went all the way to 8th grade. Queersland intellectual elite.

    If I’m not mistaken, struth hails from South Australia.

  34. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    When even the gruinaid calls you out for bullshit then its pretty ordinary.

    Yes, I’m noticing that the media caravan has moved on with amazing rapidity.

    Normally reliable Labor fellators are sternly spanking Team Albo, mainly in areas where his invisible, content-free policies are rapidly unravelling.

    Obviously a new government has a traditional window in which to hang shite on the old one. But, as BoN pointed out this morning, the ALP backpedaling started in the first week.

    Be of good cheer.

  35. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Lingiari

    After seeing the corresponding report at Sky News this morning I went off and checked the results.

    Results of the 2022 Australian federal election in territories (wiki)

    Lingiari primary vote:
    Labor ?8.24%
    Country Liberal ?2.22%

    UAP and PHON stood this time and got nearly 10% between them, ie up from 0%. In other words mk 1 neanderthal voters were pretty pissed off with both major parties. Not surprisingly Labor, who’ve held the seat forever, got hit worse once there were some third-party candidates on the ballot. Methinks Albo doth protest too much.

    The vote in Solomon will make Dot’s heart glad. 😀

  36. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Bummer – Dover’s blog rendered a minus sign as a ?.
    Should be:

    Lingiari primary vote:
    Labor -8.24%
    Country Liberal -2.22%

  37. Speedbox Avatar
    Speedbox

    JC says:
    June 9, 2022 at 1:33 pm
    …..in certain circumstances masks may have worked.

    And I think that’s it. Sometimes they probably had some effectiveness and at other times, were as effective as an ashtray on a motorbike. It would depend on the prevailing conditions, the type of mask, the ‘newness’ of the mask and for cloth masks, whether it had been washed (which stretched the weave on cloth masks).

    I recall reading some time ago that cloth masks, which had surged in popularity, usually had a weave equivalent of ~10 microns and if the mask was repeatedly washed, the weave stretched. Given that the covid bug is ~.1-.2 microns, the cloth mask was virtually useless in almost any situation.

    Surgical masks have a weave rating of around 1-2 microns and are, apparently, supposed to be worn for no more than about 4 hours before being discarded and a new one used. How many people actually did this do you suppose? I know people who used the same mask for days/weeks before they finally threw it in the bin.

    The N95 mask has a rating of about .3 microns which more or less matches the size of the covid bug allowing that it rides on an exhaled water droplet. But again, the N95 had a life of just a few hours before it is due to be discarded or the filter replaced.

    Allowing for the differences in masks, we also have to consider the ventilation and a raft of other conditions – it seems impossible to say that masks do/do not work as there are too many variables. I imagine it could be proved either way subject to the mask type, its condition and the circumstances. But having said that, I have little trouble believing that some people may end up suffering some ailment because they didn’t replace their mask often enough and were re-breathing (God knows what) for hours on end, day after day and in some cases, week after week.

  38. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    Was told a two year wait for a new Scania.

    Russian guy goes to buy a car in USSR.

    Salesman thanks him for the money and says “now come back in ten years.” The purchaser says “morning or afternoon” to which the salesman says “Its ten years! What difference does morning or afternoon make!?”

    The Russian buyer says “I’ve got the plumber coming in the morning”

    h/t Reagan.

  39. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    Struth says:
    June 9, 2022 at 3:28 pm

    Feel the Burn…..you were warned, you dumb bastard.
    You will, as all will, pay dearly for submitting to this.
    You are already starting to.
    Others will be getting different cancers, or suddenly dying with clots etc.

    Wow.

    And not in a good way.

  40. Wally Dalí Avatar
    Wally Dalí

    Look you turkeys, you can argue the efficacy of masks from the ridiculuosly obvious nose-scratching to the most miniscule tolerance of micrometre particles, but the reason for the Lizard People “mandating” them is simple.
    It’s not about safety,
    it’s about control.

  41. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    If I’m not mistaken, struth hails from South Australia.

    Adelaide.

    Melbourne’s most westerly suburb.

  42. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    On masks.
    During the compulsory mask episode in Queensland the Faustus family wore home-made versions, crafted out of black open weave linen.

    Comfortable, not sweaty, easy to breathe through, no lethal CO2 buildup, thread spacing close enough to keep small flies out.

    Worked a treat.

  43. dover0beach Avatar

    Patrick Deneen
    @PatrickDeneen
    A magazine called “Reason” going to bat for child access to drag queen shows.
    Libertarians have always been fundamental allies with norm-despising and anti-tradition progressives.

    Sadly, yes.

  44. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    Libertarians have always been fundamental allies with norm-despising and anti-tradition progressives.

    Not my brother.

  45. calli Avatar
    calli

    Worked a treat.

    Heh. I made my mandatory muzzles out of Jap gauze and ancient t-shirts. Similar effect.

  46. Winston Smith Avatar

    ZK2A:
    This Belinda Robinson?:

    Aug 26, 2021Belinda Robinson is a 29-year-old Criminal Lawyer from Western Australia. She was born in a very supportive family. Even though, she hasn’t really talked about her parents, she is very close with them. She said that her family was right behind her decision to go on the reality show, The Bachelor. She added: My family has been incredibly supportive.

  47. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    Good old fashioned British comedy on ABC tonight.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cRbX92T_H9Y

  48. dover0beach Avatar

    Today in Liberalism:

    Auron MacIntyre
    @AuronMacintyre
    ·
    4h
    What does global democracy mean in this sentence
    Quote Tweet

    Jason Stanley
    @jasonintrator
    · 13h
    I haven’t been focused as much as I should have been on supporting trans rights in the last 12 months. I now realize that this is where the fight for global democracy is. There is no avoiding it.

  49. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    You can’t supplement without elk meat. A bald, fractal gnome from Boston told me after a hippie chick I was chasing gave me cookies laced with Jimson Weed.

    I see your hippie chick and raise you another hippie chick, one that was saved from life as a stripper to spend time in a nuclear shelter with an underground chemist and his psychopathic partner in crime. She also had a brief sideline in but chugging DMT which makes most people look like total pikers.

    No elk meat required.

  50. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    I cant remember who it was here who said it, but to paraphrase “Everyone is working flat out but no-one seems to have any money”.

    Ive used the line a few times and it really has cut through for everyone.

    Eg: Mentioned it to the RM who is trying to engage an engineer to come to site and cant get anyone…
    Mentioned it to a couple of the operators and they are the same, everything is spinning faster but nothing is happening.

  51. Struth Avatar

    And stop the pretense you’re some sort of hard man, Stuth. You’ve been running scared for two years, you sad fuckhead. Now piss off and stop trying to get my attention all the time, you’re worthle

    Trying to stop you dumb bastards killing yourelves is not running scared you embicile.

    It’s called trying to punch some fucking sense into some of the most submissive, trusting, dribbling cretins of obedience god put breath into….Australians.
    Especially ethnically challenged ones.

    Now submissive wog bitch , JC (of the bend over for-a- da- government and take it-a- like a whore , dago breed) …….don’t you talk to people who have stood up to all of this, and tried to talk you into not taking the poison, unless you put sir on the front of your statement.

    And as an aside.
    I know exactly when the names started being called and who started it.
    Your brain may be mush now, but I never started with the names, you did. All here know I never got involved in your pathetic late night stouches…until………you decided to add you two cents worth regarding a subject which had nothing to do with you, and get mouthy.
    And make terrible, racist, bigotty bigot remarks about people who live in Sunshine.

    So go your hardest, shitfabrains.

  52. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    I haven’t been focused as much as I should have been on supporting trans rights in the last 12 months.

    Yes, a common problem.
    If I was to be completely honest, I’d probably have to say the same about myself.

  53. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    What does global democracy mean in this sentence

    Means we have to have a Voice for trannies as well as first nations peoples.
    Might need some more Voices after that too.
    Lots of Voices.

  54. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    How many pollies can’t pronounce “nuclear?” SHEESH!

    It’s not NUCULA FFS!!!

  55. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    Might need some more Voices after that too.
    Lots of Voices.

    I have few spare but they don’t get along.

  56. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    It’s not NUCULA FFS!!!

    Dealing with small children.

    They can’t pronounce it.
    They don’t know what it is.
    But they’re certain they don’t want it.

  57. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    It’s called trying to punch some fucking sense into

    Emphasis on the ‘trying’.

    You’d have to get your dainty little girly fist around your guts first, tubby.

  58. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    Russian guy goes to buy a car in USSR.
    Love those old Cold War jokes, Lysander.

  59. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    What does global democracy mean in this sentence

    I can’t define it but I think I know what it looks like.

    Thankfully, it’s never going to come to fruition thank’s to American decline.

  60. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    a 29-year-old Criminal Lawyer from Western Australia

    Don’cha love how they put it there in the job description, right out in the open?

  61. Struth Avatar

    Wow.

    And not in a good way.

    The truth may offend you.
    Looks like Dover’s denialists wanting to sweep FTB’s problems into the background and make my attitude toward it the problem.
    You lot taking the fucking thing in the first place was the problem.
    I’ve never had to change my stance once.
    And FTB has been quite abusive toward me for maintaining and speaking the truth.
    Lucky I don’t laugh directly at his face.
    It would be deserved.

    All prepared to participate in apartheid ……apartheid against those standing up to it, that means me and thousands of other fellow Australians you gave not one shit about, and now you’re going to pay the ultimate price.
    And you know it.
    And yet the bloke who was screaming “don’t take it” is the arsehole.

    Just make sure you get no more boosters you absolute cretins.

  62. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    you absolute cretins

    The Dark ‘N’ Stormy’s had a lunchtime workout, I see. Along with three mixed grills.

  63. Winston Smith Avatar

    Dot:

    Must be one of those deplorable libertarian conservative alt right deplorable Pepe loving 4chan freaks, pro gun and anti abortion, right?

    I’m still waiting for an explanation of how he managed to board a flight with all that kit on his person.

  64. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Leftie guy arrested trying to enter Kavanaugh’s house. The guy was armed and admitted he wanted to kill Kavanaugh. Schumer encouraged protests against Kavanaugh, as did other demorat scum. I bet there will not be a Jan 6 type investigation into the real incitement to violence against the SC and other legal institutions.

  65. Dot Avatar

    Libertarians have always been fundamental allies with norm-despising and anti-tradition progressives

    Who writes these jokes?!

  66. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Schumer, Pelosi, old poo poo pants (both of them)- they are truly evil and openly so.

    It’s hard to fathom how a country could elect and empower such trashy vermin.

  67. Winston Smith Avatar

    Megan:

    New research shows wearing face-masks increases inhaled CO2 to dangerous levels

    I understand the US Nuclear subs run at about 1% CO2 without crew problems.
    10 years ago, + new study.
    Read the whole article.

  68. Leon L. Avatar
    Leon L.

    Bern

    You had a treadmill test that sounds like a stress ECG.
    Have you had an echocardiogram?
    A stress echo includes this. You lie down at the start and finish of the exercise test for an echocardiogram.
    Reassuring if a stress echo was normal.
    If you haven’t, get your GP to order at least a resting echocardiogram.

  69. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    About thirty West Australians in the pub tonight.
    They’re thrilled to “be on this side of the country for a change” (meaning, they’re glad to be allowed to travel again & see more of the country)

    Some nice folks among ’em. They seem to be all from Perth.

  70. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Anyway, it’s not a pity party.
    Eat healthy, exercise, get on with life while pursuing a course of treatment.
    Postive attitude & all that.
    It doesn’t occupy much of my mind or time usually.

    My view exactly re my own heart concerns, Bern. I am always busy and optimistic.
    I religously take my blood pressure tablets and try to exercise regularly.
    Like you I had one race to Emergency with possible CHD, they admitted me overnight.
    Couldn’t find any blood or ECG markers so let me out the next day, no treatment needed.
    Said it was a weird gastritis. It went away after a few days. We took our flight as booked.
    Discharging doc, a very nice woman, said best to see a cardiologist anyway; she would if it was her.
    Which I am finally doing after the drum beating heart during our o/s trip.

    Best of luck with your situation. I’m tending to think mine was nothing much.

  71. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Vicki, you are always helpful and a mine of information.

    Good thing about the Cat – all aspects of a problem can be canvassed.

  72. Diogenes Avatar
    Diogenes

    Russian guy goes to buy a car in USSR.
    Love those old Cold War jokes, Lysander

    My favourite, which has been repeated many times “While they pretend to pay me, I’ll pretend to work”.

  73. Speedbox Avatar
    Speedbox

    Zyconoclast says:
    June 9, 2022 at 4:35 pm
    Representatives from the European Union have rejected pressure from the auto industry and voted to uphold a proposed ban on new internal-combustion engine (ICE) cars from 2035. While the ban has yet to be written into law, many European carmakers have already indicated their intentions to drop ICE vehicles by 2030 or sooner.

    Yep. Back in early 2019 I wrote my first post about the demise of ICE passenger vehicles and the inevitable rise of electric cars. I followed that up with another post in mid 2021 that detailed further steps being taken to outlaw ICE vehicles and the vast sums the manufacturers were spending on ‘zero emission’ passenger vehicles. Since then, hydrogen powered cars (and boats, planes, trucks) have also taken huge developmental steps.

    Back in 2021 I wrote that: Labor Party policy is that EVs will constitute 50% of all new vehicle sales by 2030. Whilst this is only a policy at present, it indicates ALP policy direction. Labor policy is to eliminate the 5% import tariff on electric vehicles and Fringe Benefits Tax on electric cars from 1 July 2022.

    Beyond that, Labor is also going to spend $500 million of our tax dollars on a network of thousands of EV charging stations plus $80 million on a hydrogen refuelling network.

    Based on the manufacturing phase-out of ICE vehicles planned by car manufacturers overseas and the proposed or existing reinforcing legislation in every country that matters, it will be very difficult, if not impossible, to buy a new ICE car in Australia by 2035.

  74. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Eyriesays:
    June 9, 2022 at 5:37 pm
    Russian guy goes to buy a car in USSR.
    Love those old Cold War jokes, Lysander.

    Here’s another one.

    Why do the KGB always go around in groups of three?

    One to read, one to write, and one to keep an eye on those two intellectuals.

  75. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    a 29-year-old Criminal Lawyer from Western Australia

    The description “criminal lawyer” is tautological.

  76. Damienski Avatar
    Damienski

    Just got a letter from NSW Rural Fire Service informing me that unless I can prove to them that I have been jabbed that I am no longer an operational member of the Rural Fire Service.
    No clot shot for me, so they can go and roger themselves.

    The Fascist gnome McClown did the same thing in Sandgroperstan last December. I haven’t been back since. I wrote to the Emergency Services Commissioner and told him that he’s just lost a 20-year veteran. He eventually wrote back and faffed on with predictable sludge about duty to protect the community and fellow-firefighters.
    Apparently it was OK for me to spend a week fighting a fire in December, but too dangerous for me to even attend the fire station in January.
    Today I received an email that the directive has been quietly reversed as of next week. Next Thursday it will be too dangerous for me to go the fire station. On Friday, it won’t be.
    I won’t be going back.

  77. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    miltonfsays:
    June 9, 2022 at 5:50 pm
    Schumer, Pelosi, old poo poo pants (both of them)- they are truly evil and openly so.

    It’s hard to fathom how a country could elect and empower such trashy vermin.

    Me too. It’s got my brother sounding very melancholy so im glad my son is going over to help.

  78. dover0beach Avatar

    Who writes these jokes?!

    Reason magazine, Dot. Reason magazine.

  79. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    My neighbour in her 70’s with whom I exchange books has just texted me she has been diagnosed with multiple myeloma. She’s already had to have a pacemaker inserted for CHD. I haven’t discussed what stage with her yet. I suspect stage 3 – i.e. late stage – as earlier stages often have few presenting symptoms and she did have some things she was worried about before we went away for five weeks.

    Cancer, CHD, Dementia, Arthritis and a heap of other nasties that creep up on you as you age. Don’t have ’em yet, but I know they are around and trying to get Hairy and me. So far I’ve done quite well with the positive attitude approach. Sending Hairy off to get his Shingles jab next week, and flu jab for us both.

    Preventative approaches seem to go hand in glove with positivity. Long may they do so.
    Plus Tinta, who has some excellent Saints, has my back. 🙂

  80. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Based on the manufacturing phase-out of ICE vehicles planned by car manufacturers overseas and the proposed or existing reinforcing legislation in every country that matters, it will be very difficult, if not impossible, to buy a new ICE car in Australia by 2035.

    Given declining living standards courtesy the hamstringing of our export industries, we’ll be the Cuba of the developed world.

  81. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    That first came from Fauci, Rick. He was lying and the others followed. It was exactly at that time when we should have lost faith in these large government agencies.

    JC, I bring you back to the Victorian 2019 Pandemic Plan, they didn’t believed masks worked then. Also, if you look at virus size and mask pore size, the whole argument is that scaffolding can stop a dropped marble.

  82. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Remember too that this human garbage in Congress and the White House has been around since the 70s – it’s interesting that they’ve waited until the last few years to inflict maximum damage on the US? Trump must have scared them in a big way.

  83. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    The truth may offend you.

    Moot point. Your shrieking is not to be confused with truth.

    Bern is in an unpleasant situation, but you can’t wait to dance on his grave – it won’t hurt him enough. As far as you are concerned it is all about you, and how clever you are.

    Look, I don’t usually read your posts – time consuming and pointless. Full of bluster, and spittle, absurdities, and delirium. You seem to have this conceit lodged in your brain that you are the great prophet – the leader to wipe away the enemy that only you have the vision to see. But only you have the vision, and if you want to be saved there is only one way. Your way.

    A messianic complex – if Jesus was a jerk. Actually, for lack of any humanity, you are surely more like Mohammad.

    You had a site, a veritable furniture store, where you could rave to your heart’s content and in all your dottiness. And what did you divine from the fact that people weren’t interested enough to go there? That you should insert yourself somewhere with a real community and try to make it about you. Pathological.

    But now I must be blunt. Blunt as to the reason I have not read your posts or been struck dumb by your commentary: You are just not that bright. Not thatl subtle. Not that knowledgeable. Not at all capable of measured thought. Unable to insert in your mental plodding the possibility that you might be wrong, that you might have limits. Only stupid people are blind like that. And you hate. You are so angry with everyone who does not fall at your feet begging to be saved. You have no compassion. No empathy. And no understanding of people.

    You have the idiots ego.

    Simply, the person you are does not measure up in any way to the hype on the packet, and the hype thinks it is the product.

    So after the appalling kicking of bern for the unforgivable sin of not doing things exactly as you say, you really ought to fornicate off. You won’t. You can’t. You’re broken. I know I have invited a further pillaging of Dover’s pixels. But you ought.

    This will really do your head in, or would if you could read it. You will doubtless respond with renewed accusations of cowardice, corruption, desperation, delusion, and duplicity, but here it goes: Type your heart out. I really do not care. I do not take it to heart. I think you are a joke.

  84. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    I thought virus was spread via vapour droplets we expel by breathing so virus size isn’t really relevant.

  85. Perth Trader Avatar
    Perth Trader

    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
    June 9, 2022 at 5:54 pm
    About thirty West Australians in the pub tonight…..The best people in Aust. come from West. Aust….just sayin’….
    <<<<< duks for cover…lol…

  86. Bluey Avatar
    Bluey

    Damienskisays:
    June 9, 2022 at 6:13 pm
    Just got a letter from NSW Rural Fire Service informing me that unless I can prove to them that I have been jabbed that I am no longer an operational member of the Rural Fire Service.
    No clot shot for me, so they can go and roger themselves.

    The Fascist gnome McClown did the same thing in Sandgroperstan last December. I haven’t been back since. I wrote to the Emergency Services Commissioner and told him that he’s just lost a 20-year veteran. He eventually wrote back and faffed on with predictable sludge about duty to protect the community and fellow-firefighters.
    Apparently it was OK for me to spend a week fighting a fire in December, but too dangerous for me to even attend the fire station in January.
    Today I received an email that the directive has been quietly reversed as of next week. Next Thursday it will be too dangerous for me to go the fire station. On Friday, it won’t be.
    I won’t be going back.

    I’ve heard similar stories about the CFA in Vic, although the merger the dictator forced on them did just as much, if not more, damage.

  87. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Russian guy goes to buy a car in USSR.
    Love those old Cold War jokes, Lysander

    Why are you sleeping on the floor, you work in a bed factory!

    Every time I stole parts to make a bed and assembled it, it turned out to be an AK-47!

  88. dover0beach Avatar

    Diane Montagna
    @dianemontagna
    Half of the traditional Catholics on the 2022 Chartres pilgrimage were under 20 via @SmitsJeanne

    Dot, get going and don’t come back until your married. No excuses.

  89. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    Ah, I see sancho the Catallaxy Files’ witches-hat, is providing the usual public service again all day.

    thank-you for your service sancho

  90. Delta A Avatar
    Delta A

    Today I received an email that the directive has been quietly reversed as of next week. Next Thursday it will be too dangerous for me to go the fire station. On Friday, it won’t be.
    I won’t be going back.

    It’s tragic – wicked- that quiet heroes like you, Damienski, have been forced out of a service so vital to our community. It hardly seems worth fighting for anymore.

    Best wishes for your future, and thanks for your past service.

  91. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Heh. I made my mandatory muzzles out of Jap gauze and ancient t-shirts. Similar effect.

    Hopefully the arm pits of the T shirts were rejected for mask making!

  92. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    I haven’t been focused as much as I should have been on supporting koala rights in the last 12 months. I now realize that this is where the fight for global mongocracy is. There is no avoiding it.

    Because nothing says “democracy” more than letting the mentally ill .poofteenth% of the population decide whats sexual normality.

  93. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Your shrieking is not to be confused with truth.

    100%.

    The rest of Lode’s post – also 100%. All of it.

  94. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    I understand the US Nuclear subs run at about 1% CO2 without crew problems.

    Winston – Humans are flexible critters. I was reading just now about destroyer HMAS Stuart, which had to return to Alexandria after blowing a steam pipe on 29/9/1940. On the way she encountered the Italian submarine Gondar, whereupon a serious night-long hunt occurred. By sun-up the sub’s air purifiers were cactus and she was running 3 atmospheres of pressure due to water leaks. Yikes! Finally at 9:20am they surfaced, only to be bombed by a Sunderland and shelled by Stuart. Amazingly all except two of the Italians were then rescued, so we have their report of the fight.

  95. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    Damienski says: June 9, 2022 at 6:13 pm

    Thursday it will be too dangerous for me to go the fire station. On Friday, it won’t be.
    I won’t be going back.

    Fair call.

  96. Dot Avatar

    Phasing out ICE is stupid.

    Here’s why.

    The sheer scale required for charging stations is phenomenal.

    To quickly recharge a car battery, you need massive amounts of EMF to drawn on. They will need huge capacitors etc. The ratings on the electrical network of a charging site would be higher than what is in many factories. The batteries and capacitors onsite will have limited lifespan.

    If we had nuke, we’d have a cheap supply of virtually uninterruptible power.

    Cheap electricity can be used to make direct alternatives to diesel such as diethyl ether (actual “ether”), directly from atmospheric CO2 and water. Storage tanks do not degrade like chemical batteries.

  97. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    it will be very difficult, if not impossible, to buy a new ICE car in Australia by 2035.

    Time for a trade in on the Q5 and purchase of a new ICE car now. Before the Germans go completely overboard on electric cars, because we do like German engineering, but ICE for me for as long as possible. Don’t want another Audi. We’ve had too many problems with them, to do with the computing
    set ups. Hairy is more tolerant of electric, would take a hybrid, but I am concerned about fire.

  98. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Dickless uptick for Mother Lode

  99. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    About thirty West Australians in the pub tonight…..The best people in Aust. come from West. Aust….just sayin’….

    Live footage!

  100. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    Perth Trader says: June 9, 2022 at 6:22 pm

    About thirty West Australians in the pub tonight

    …..The best people in Aust. come from West. Aust….just sayin’….

    I’ll go along with that.
    This bunch pay their bills, promptly.
    They’re a stand out among my larger clients, coz prompt payers.

    For contrast I deal with two Victorian outfits, neither pay promptly, one in particular are very slow payers, taking up to Six months to pay.

    Furthermore, the West Australian escorts are much nicer & far more capable than the cranky boilers the Victorians send along.

  101. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Will anal put a charging station at Tibooburra?

  102. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    I’m working on my Great Depression prep! Just ate the last gerkin so I have a jar to put all my pallet nails in, after I’ve straightened them!

  103. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    meeting today with a particular building manager,
    mentioned that their gas contract is ending this month.

    the new retail price is likely to be FOUR times what they are paying now
    from $0.14/MJ to at least $0.48

    wholesale price has been capped … not the retail !

    Their gas bill will go from $250k per year to a $million

  104. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    It’s got my brother sounding very melancholy so im glad my son is going over to help.

    Family. Important in so many ways.

  105. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    …..The best people in Aust. come from West. Aust….just sayin’….

    West Australians have always known that!

  106. Winston Smith Avatar

    I bought a stack of meat a month ago and have been slowly working my way through it.
    2 Brisket thingies. My God! I made it in a slow cooker for 24 hours, and the fat was about 1″ thick. Put it in the fridge to help remove it and next day recooked the 2 kilos. Left it overnight again, and still about 1/2 inch of fat released.
    Tried it and I need to drink a mug of detergent to get the taste out.
    …and people built a nation on this food?
    I’ll just chop the other two kilos up and render it down for the cooking fat, I think. And give the meat to next doors dogs.

  107. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    Speedbox, hydrogen makes batteries look good by a factor of nearly 3 x. Lunacy.
    Batteries are bad enough. Some one asked if it was just Teslas that caught fire. No, GM had to do two TWO recalls and battery replacements on the Chevy Volt. While waiting for the replacement, don’t park near anything you care about.

  108. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    I haven’t been focused as much as I should have been on supporting koala rights in the last 12 months.

    I support brushtail possum rights.
    With bread just now.
    And a carrot for afters in a sec.

    I think brushtails would do less harm in Parliament than most Federal pollies.
    Vote #1 marsupials!

  109. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    rickw

    I get about thee un broken nails per pallet.

  110. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Why Big-Tech is Anti-Democracy | Victor Davis Hanson

    John Anderson

    Author, historian and political commentator Victor Davis Hanson analyses events in the United States as the election drama continues to unfold. Biden looks likely to gain the Presidency, but the ultimate winners and losers of this election are still being decided.

  111. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    The best people in Aust. come from West. Aust….just sayin’….

    As soon as they are of age and they don’t go back! Hah!

  112. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Time for a trade in on the Q5 and purchase of a new ICE car now. Before the Germans go completely overboard on electric cars, because we do like German engineering, but ICE for me for as long as possible. Don’t want another Audi. We’ve had too many problems with them, to do with the computing
    set ups. Hairy is more tolerant of electric, would take a hybrid, but I am concerned about fire.

    get a porsche SUV, had very few problems with them

  113. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Tried it and I need to drink a mug of detergent to get the taste out.
    …and people built a nation on this food?

    Mmm…brisket.

    Needs to be properly rubbed with spices before cooking and served up with a heavyish BBQ sauce though.

  114. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    In Chinese cuisine there’s also a spicy brisket hot pot which is tdf.

  115. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    EXCLUSIVE: State Department Prepares To Announce Worldwide Racial Equity Chief, Leaked Email Shows

    Universal mediocrity! you will be nothing and a nobody and you will be blissfully unaware.

  116. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    Brisket is meant to be in a well cooked stew.

  117. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    Meat without fat is sacrilege .

  118. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    The Coalition government owns this energy crisis as much as Labor. Labor will soon own it and won’t be able to deflect it to the Morrison government however they’ll milk it for as long as possible and, quite honestly, why shouldn’t they. However, I find it disingenuous of the Liberals and Nationals to lecture Labor about energy when, despite being in power for almost nine years, the Coalition….

    1. did fuck all to temper and curb the war on coal.
    2. did fuck all to temper and curb the war on gas.
    3. did fuck all to deal with climate change indoctrination in schools, they never ran any decent arguments to temper and curb climate change hysteria.
    4. did fuck all to squash Turdbull’s absurd Snowy 2.0.
    5. did fuck all to argue the case for nuclear energy. In fact the Liberals and Nationals when in government ran, like the scaredy-cats they are, from any argument for nuclear power and yet now, less than three weeks since they lost an election, they have the chutzpah to talk about nuclear however, well they’ve left that too late, haven’t they? They should have and could have gone to the May election asking for a mandate for nuclear power.

    In other words, the Liberals and Nationals should shut the fuck up about energy for some months and let Labor slowly dig its energy grave.

    Pardon the language.

  119. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    I thought virus was spread via vapour droplets we expel by breathing so virus size isn’t really relevant.

    Rosie – If you breathe out of a cold morning you’ll see the vapour vanishes after about a foot.
    That’s because the water droplets are evaporating, leaving whatever’s in them to float free.
    See the link I posted this morning about masks for what that then produces.

  120. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Tried it and I need to drink a mug of detergent to get the taste out.
    …and people built a nation on this food?

    you are supposed to cut the fat cap off

  121. Delta A Avatar
    Delta A

    I’m in shock.

    Just popped over to Adam Cat – which, btw, I visit from time to time, lurking and posting – to discover that eggy thinks I am Grigory M. Don’t know whether to be furious at the accusation, or chuffed that anyone believes I could pull off such a splendid sock deception.

    Another layer of intrigue to mask my identity.

  122. Wally Dalí Avatar
    Wally Dalí

    I’m working on my Great Depression prep!
    No dice with the patent office after all, Rick?

  123. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Cassie your post proves that the problem is the political class aka the unipardy. We are governed by nincompoops and dilettantes. The ‘political class’ includes those twerps in the senior pubic ‘service’.

  124. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    rickw

    I get about thee un broken nails per pallet.

    About right, I’ve got a Ute load of clean pallet timber and 20 nails!

  125. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Brisket is meant to be in a well cooked stew.

    Let’s not place limitations on the power of the brisket.

    In a stew or hot pot, plated up sliced & sauced with home made coleslaw and potato salad, pulled on a hamburger or in a taco, it’s a very economical & versatile cut.

  126. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    I’m working on my Great Depression prep!

    and WW3 prep? still working on mine

  127. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    It’s also time to end bludge and bullshit courses at Unis.

  128. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    No dice with the patent office after all, Rick?

    It went well but they’ve been slack, could be much closer to filing than we are, need to get to market ASAP!

  129. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    No time for Uluru Statement ‘argy-bargy’
    Jack GramenzAAP
    Thu, 9 June 2022 11:02AM

    Australia’s special envoy for reconciliation believes the corporate sector will play an important role in the implementation of the Uluru Statement from the Heart.

    West Australian senator Patrick Dodson says corporations and organisations can play an important role in reaching reconciliation by supporting the Uluru Statement and educating their staff, clients and communities about it.

    Senator Dodson told the Reconciliation Action Plan Conference in Sydney on Thursday that there were already positive signs from the sector.

    He said Rio Tinto board members and executives had committed the company to hearing Indigenous voices and perspectives, and News Corp’s executive chairman Michael Miller had also endorsed Labor’s agenda to implement a Voice to Parliament.

    “I’m heartened by what I sense is the positive mood out there about the possibilities ahead,” Senator Dodson said.

    He wants to reach a consensus in the coming months on the wording for a referendum to be held during this term of parliament, but says it has to happen fast.

    “We do not have the time for too much argy-bargy about this because we have to get on with a comprehensive education campaign,” Senator Dodson said.

    He recognises there will be a diversity of views across the parliament, just as there is outside it, and those need to be respected.

    “But I do want to make sure that everyone at least understands properly what it is that we want to achieve,” Senator Dodson said.

    “It will redefine us as a nation.”

    He said the country “is yearning for change”, evidenced by the rousing applause Prime Minister Anthony Albanese received when promising to implement the Uluru Statement and its components during his campaign launch and victory speech.

    “So many people now want to put to rest the arguments and disputations that have characterised the national conversations of the past decades about how the country deals with its First Nations peoples,” Senator Dodson said.

    “A weariness has been weighing us down for too long.”

    Just bring on the fvcking referendum, the sooner the better.

  130. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Survival types apparently turn the fat into pemmican, which is very nutritious, tastes revolting and can keep you alive forever (or perhaps it only seems like forever).

  131. Delta A Avatar
    Delta A

    eggy thinks I am Grigory M

    Thinking it through, I’m amazed at how diabolically devious I (supposedly) am. Apparently, I mocked myself, argued with myself and tried to dox myself.

    How brilliant is that?

  132. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    Sorry Delta, Drbg and I are also Grig socks according to egg rossie too.

  133. Delta A Avatar
    Delta A

    Hands up if I tricked you.

  134. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Australia’s special envoy for reconciliation believes the corporate sector will play an important role in the implementation of the Uluru Statement from the Heart.”

    It’s the same formula that was used to spruik SSM. They’ll do it again for the “Uluru Statement” and for the republic.

  135. Delta A Avatar
    Delta A

    Sorry Delta, Drbg and I are also Grig socks according to egg rossie too.

    Then I am in excellent company.

  136. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Meat without fat is sacrilege .

    You’re not far from the kingdom, bespoke.

    In the old covenant, God instructed the Israelites to present the choicest, fattiest parts of the sacrificial animal to him as burnt offerings.

  137. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    BoN
    Google tells me the distance the water vapour we expel breathing, talking, eating can travel 1 to 1.5 metres which strangely enough is the recommended social distance.

  138. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    The B17 could sure take a flogging:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYSNbwXGvjA

  139. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    … to discover that eggy thinks I am Grigory M

    egg has a long, very long, history of barking up the wrong tree.
    It’s sorta egg’s hallmark really.

  140. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    “Australia’s special envoy for reconciliation believes the corporate sector will play an important role in the implementation of the Uluru Statement from the Heart.”

    Fascism minus the nationalism.

    And they’re so historically & politically ignorant they’re oblivious to it.

  141. Dot Avatar

    Google tells me the distance the water vapour we expel breathing, talking, eating can travel 1 to 1.5 metres which strangely enough is the recommended social distance.

    Social distancing is made up bullshit (thanks CDC) with NO scientific merit whatsoever.

  142. Barking Toad Avatar
    Barking Toad

    “my post this morning” on masks BoN.

    Roughly what time? I missed it. (make scrolling easier)

  143. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “Australia’s special envoy for reconciliation

    Self appointed special envoy for reconciliation..

  144. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    NYT
    Monkeypox Can Be Airborne, Too
    An abrupt change in C.D.C. guidance underscores a little-known phenomenon: On occasion, monkeypox can be transmitted through aerosols, similar to the coronavirus.

  145. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Rosie – Who do I believe: my lying eyes or Google? Also the steam tables, relative vs absolute humidity, rate kinetics, SI units and 40 years of doing this stuff.

    Sorry to be irritable, but if you look at the link, which I will repeat below for convenience, you will see what masks do. I had said almost exactly this several times on this and the previous Cat based on first principles of chemistry. Masks are a helpful catcher to store then release infectious virus particles into your throat and lungs. The same goes in the opposite direction. That’s not necessarily true of bacteria because they are big enough to be retained by the mask porosity in their own right.

    New Study: Mask Mandates Associated With Increased Covid Death Rate (5 Jun)

  146. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    NYT
    Monkeypox Can Be Airborne, Too
    An abrupt change in C.D.C. guidance underscores a little-known phenomenon: On occasion, monkeypox can be transmitted through aerosols, similar to the coronavirus.

    Haha. CDC backflipped a day later. They must’ve forgotten to tell the Slimes though.

  147. Old School Conservative Avatar
    Old School Conservative

    Pardon the language.

    Cassie is not Stephanie.
    Both are gems though.

  148. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    Egg has forgotten there is life outside the internet,sad.

  149. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    Internet discussions:
    https://foxes-in-love.tumblr.com/post/675427442739036160
    Cute cartoon series, BTW

  150. Dot Avatar

    Michael Tracey6h
    Today the Supreme Court invoked “national security” to consummate the immunization of federal agents from liability for violating the Constitution. Many people are likely unaware that if a federal agent illegally barges into your house, you have essentially no recourse

    Oh my god.

  151. Dot Avatar

    Gray Connolly6h
    This is plainly wrong. Nuclear is zero emissions/reliable/scalable & would remove any requirement to subsidise renewables. Nuclear as an industry also supports key national security objectives with submarines & likely replacements for the LHDs. Nuclear is not merely climate https://twitter.com/murpharoo/status/1534689925483769856

    Katharine Murphy@murpharoo
    5. All the research I’ve seen says nuclear is not economically viable in the absence of CO2 pricing or massive government subsidies. So when Libs/Nats say they support nuclear, they need to be asked: do you support a CO2 price? Can you quantify the $ value of taxpayer subsidies?

    Let’s have a totally free market in energy with no prohibition of nuclear and find out.

  152. Dot Avatar

    Trudeau’s Justice Minister David Lametti has just announced that people don’t have an “absolute right to own private property” in Canada.

    Unfortunately, I think he is just telling it how it is, despite being just awful as a principle, which he probably abides by.

  153. Timothy Neilson Avatar
    Timothy Neilson

    Zipstersays:
    June 9, 2022 at 7:31 pm
    NYT
    Monkeypox Can Be Airborne, Too
    An abrupt change in C.D.C. guidance underscores a little-known phenomenon: On occasion, monkeypox can be transmitted through aerosols, similar to the coronavirus.

    What occasion? It’s supposed to be transmitted by sexual practices.
    Perhaps if someone plays the pink oboe they can then breathe out the virus?

  154. Dot Avatar

    Please wear a mask at your monkeypox swinger’s party.

  155. Megan Avatar
    Megan

    Based on the manufacturing phase-out of ICE vehicles planned by car manufacturers overseas and the proposed or existing reinforcing legislation in every country that matters, it will be very difficult, if not impossible, to buy a new ICE car in Australia by 2035.

    I am almost certain that at various critical points along the journey towards this brilliant utopia, reality will inconveniently insert its ugly self and derail the EV train spectacularly. There is an exceedingly high probability that it will happen more than once.

    I am excited to see the idiots who are flying this spectacularly cockeyed, pie in the sky, electric paradise kite own the entire debacle – lock, stock and empty oil barrel. They will be ruling over the chaos that inevitably results when you interfere too deeply in complex, nested systems.

    Good luck, numpties. You’re going to need it.

  156. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Cassie is not Stephanie.
    Both are gems though.”

    Thank you OSC, much appreciated.

  157. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Haha. CDC backflipped a day later. They must’ve forgotten to tell the Slimes though.

    “C.D.C. removed the mask recommendation from the monkeypox travel health notice because it caused confusion,” the agency said in a statement on Tuesday.

    The turnabout hints at a little-discussed aspect of the current monkeypox outbreak: The virus can be airborne, at least over short distances. While airborne transmission is only a small factor in the overall spread, experts said in interviews, there are no firm estimates regarding how much it contributes.

    Since May 13, when the first case in the outbreak was reported, more than a thousand people in 31 countries have been diagnosed with the virus, and at least another thousand cases are being investigated.

    “It’s very ambiguous what the true or dominant route of transmission is, and some of that can be addressed in animal models,” Nancy Sullivan, a researcher at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said at the conference. “Probably that needs to take a front seat for some of the laboratory research.”

    But in briefings with the press and with the general public, health officials have not explicitly addressed the possibility of airborne transmission or the use of masks for protection.

    And in interviews, they emphasized the role of large respiratory droplets that are expelled from infected patients and drift onto objects or people. Monkeypox infection requires “really close sustained contact,” said Andrea McCollum, the C.D.C.’s leading expert on the virus.

    “This is not a virus that was transmitted over several meters,” she said. “That’s why we have to be really careful how to frame this.”

    The C.D.C.’s swift about-face on masks for travelers concerned about monkeypox was reminiscent of its early denials that the coronavirus was airborne. In September 2020, the agency published guidance on airborne transmission of the virus and then abruptly withdrew it just days later.

    It was not until May 2021 that the agency acknowledged that the coronavirus could “remain suspended in the air for minutes to hours.”

  158. Pedro the Loafer Avatar
    Pedro the Loafer

    Hohohoho.
    Pat Dodson wandering the countryside spruiking Uluru bullshit on the taxpayer’s credit card reckons the corporates are all on board because a few luvvies clapped Albo’s speech.

    The more hard headed executives of Australia’s majors are past masters at making smoke and mirrors statements about all these “woke” programs, but if any of the bulldust threatens their bottom line they will cut your throat quicker than look at you.

    Dodson is fantasist and a fool, living in a fool’s paradise (on a very nice salary, thank you very much).

  159. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Eva Vlaardingerbroek discusses the rise in sudden adult death syndrome with Mark Steyn

    so many mysteries!

  160. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Dodson is fantasist and a fool, living in a fool’s paradise (on a very nice salary, thank you very much).

    You’ve probably heard the story, but, way back when, the Dodson brothers tried to intervene in a land rights dispute. The local elders told them they weren’t part of their tribe, and threatened them with tribal punishment if they didn’t mind their own business.

  161. Dot Avatar

    Monkeypox infection requires “really close sustained contact,” said Andrea McCollum, the C.D.C.’s leading expert on the virus.

    Like a penis in your mouth, I guess?

  162. custard Avatar
    custard

    Armadillo introduced this guy to this thread. I find his insights interesting.

    Make of it what you will.

    https://x22report.com/the-how-will-be-hard-to-understand-for-most-focus-on-the-why-the-when-is-now-ep-2794/

  163. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Katharine Murphy@murpharoo
    5. All the research I’ve seen says nuclear is not economically viable in the absence of CO2 pricing or massive government subsidies.

    What, like the massive government subsidies that wind and solar get through carbon pricing RECs?

    The way the electricity wholesale price is going driven by renewables I think nuclear power would rake in dosh like there’s no tomorrow. Easily justifiable even with our stupid overregulation. But Katherine probably believes high electricity prices are due to some mythical reason which hid during the time coal and hydro were our only sources only to now suddenly manifested itself amazingly. I wonder what it could be?

  164. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    An abrupt change in C.D.C. guidance underscores a little-known phenomenon: On occasion, monkeypox can be transmitted through aerosols, similar to the coronavirus.

    at the rate it is spreading it is fairly obvious there is an aerosol component

  165. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Dr Ben Miles
    The first clinical trials of a modified pox virus that’s aimed at killing cancerous cells and stimulating the immune system to respond to cancer better have started in 10 sites in Australia and the United States

    #Vaxinia #oncolytic #virus

    Podcast episode with Dr Joe Healey who is trying to use viruses to deliver other forms of medicine here: https://www.spin-up.science/episodes/

    0:00 Introduction
    1:45 The History of Viruses and Cancer
    3:24 How do Viruses Kill Cancer?
    5:47 How Vaxinia Works
    8:16 The Vaxinia Clinical Pathway
    8:22 How Far Away Are We From Curing Cancer?
    8:53 Podcast Episode and Conclusion

  166. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Google’s New Robot: Your Personal Butler!
    The paper “Do As I Can, Not As I Say: Grounding Language in Robotic Affordances” is available here:
    https://say-can.github.io/
    https://arxiv.org/abs/2204.01691

  167. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    Un-bloody-believable! .. boy goes missing then found is the good news! .. but Dad ain’t smiling!
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk

  168. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    The virus can be airborne, at least over short distances. While airborne transmission is only a small factor in the overall spread, experts said in interviews, there are no firm estimates regarding how much it contributes.

    Preserving the veil of ‘Darling, I really don’t know, I must have caught it from a toilet seat…

  169. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    The more hard headed executives of Australia’s majors are past masters at making smoke and mirrors statements about all these “woke” programs, but if any of the bulldust threatens their bottom line they will cut your throat quicker than look at you.

    Twiggy definitely not included in that group then. Indigenous folk that stick around for three years get a free house for working at Fortescue.

  170. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Bruce of N

    By sun-up the sub’s air purifiers were cactus and she was running 3 atmospheres of pressure due to water leaks. Yikes!

    Lucky they didn’t resort to using the pure oxygen in their escape breathing apparatus (if they had such). They would all have died. Oxygen becomes poisonous above two atmospheres of pressure.

  171. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Daily Mail. WTF?

    Woman who claims she got a sexually transmitted disease from an ex-boyfriend after sex in the back of his Hyundai Genesis is awarded $5.2 million settlement from his CAR INSURANCE company

    The woman and the insured were in a romantic relationship going back to 2017
    A three-judge panel found that the judgment entered against GEICO through earlier arbitration proceedings was valid
    GEICO sought to undo the action, claiming errors were made in Jackson County Circuit Court
    The insurance giant also argued the settlement agreement was not done in line with Missouri law
    The company filed motions seeking a new hearing of the evidence and for the award to be tossed out
    The company appealed after those requests were denied

  172. Rob MW Avatar
    Rob MW

    Make of this what you like. My take is that LNP fucked up thinking that nobody would notice firstly. Downside will be that all rates will go up coupled with a further (covid & now Ukraine) shortage of transport/freight operators putting further pressure on the already severely disrupted supply chain issues. (Below)

    WHAT IS THIS TAX ON TRUCKERS?

    When the former Federal Government cut the fuel excise from 44.2c/L to 22.1c/L, it reduced costs for consumers but also shrunk its own revenue stream. Instead of accepting a smaller taxpayer-funded income, the Morrison Government instead forced Australia’s trucking industry to make up the difference.

    Previously, truckers received a tax credit of 17.8c/L but this was cut to 4.3c/L from March 30, meaning truckers are now forced to pay an extra 13.5c/L.

    It’s an enormous cost, amounting to a loss of funds no business can absorb – especially under the circumstances, in which no warning was given whatsoever.

  173. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Mother Lode at 6:21.
    Empties two magazines and does not waste a round.

  174. Megan Avatar
    Megan

    My take is that LNP fucked up thinking that nobody would notice firstly

    Morrison government incompetent nincompoops. News at ten.

  175. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    the Morrison Government instead forced Australia’s trucking industry to make up the difference.

    These dickheads really did not want to win the election.

  176. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    Downloaded a 6 part HBO series .. THE PLOT AGAINST AMERICA .. and because it’s not listed on IMDB for some reason thought it was, probably, a documentary .. turns out it is a very well done alternate history story ..
    America between 1939 & 1942 where Charles Lindbergh defeats FDR for the Presidency and signs a non aggression pact with Nazi Germany and NO Pearl Harbour takes place ..
    Follows a Jewish family in New Jersey as America begins to adopt the same attitude to Jews as the Nazis ..
    very well done and worth a watch ..
    This is the wikipedia link of the plot-line .. from the novel by Philip Roth
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Plot_Against_America_%28miniseries%29

  177. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    at the rate it is spreading it is fairly obvious there is an aerosol component

    From what I seen every single case in Australia is from patrons of certain establishments or who’ve arrived back from interesting tourist destinations. The number of airborne infections looks empirically to be roughly nil point nil. The number of deaths has been nil point nil also, at least in Australia.

    A thousand people in thirty one countries is not exactly fast. It does however fit quite well with that particular demographic and lifestyle.

    Which CDC, being inveterately lefty, doesn’t really want to talk about much.

    There’s a limit how much voom you can get out of a hyped threat. They’re putting in amazing effort to make this one run and it just ain’t vooming.

  178. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    The number of airborne infections looks empirically to be roughly nil point nil.

    the same can’t be said about europe

  179. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    the Morrison Government instead forced Australia’s trucking industry to make up the difference.
    I came across this story before the election on a O/S news site but because I saw no mention anywhere in Oz online media I thought it was just an election stir tactic .. the main thrust was the possibility of lotza the smaller trucking operations either going to the wall or being seriously impacted due to the increased fuel bill …..

  180. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Cowardly Cineworld Caves In To Muslim Mob Over Film About Muhammad’s Daughter. Politicians Silent
    The New Culture Forum

    NCF Director Peter Whittle condemns Cineworld’s decision to stop showing the film “Lady of Heaven” after hundreds of Muslim protestors picketed its cinemas. The lack of condemnation from politicians and artists reveals just how scared our elites have become of causing offence — and how easy it is to censor and eliminate free speech.

    Calling for a boycott of Cineworld, he says that our cultural values are being eroded with absolutely no resistance from our leaders. It is more important than ever that we make our voices heard. No one has the right not to be offended. There is no blasphemy law in Britain. Our values are sacred and will not be subverted.

  181. Indolent Avatar
    Indolent

    At the time, when masks potentially did work against the other two variants, you were here bullshitting on about how useless they were. They appear to be useless with the Omni, but not with Alpha and Delta. In any event, even if masks weren’t effective, risk management suggested at the time, and with information current then that they were worth using inside.

    Masks never worked and this was known from the start. Fauci himself said so, until he said they were essential. Now he admit that their purpose was purely to maintain authority.

    The effect of masks has now been conclusively shown to the negative, something that doesn’t surprise me in the least. My objection from the start, however, was mandating them (or any other health procedure). It is one thing to recommend something, right or wrong, and quite another to threaten and force people into compliance. That is unforgiveable. And in my opinion that is the just the tip of the damage iceberg.

  182. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    MatrixTransformsays:

    June 9, 2022 at 6:30 pm

    Ah, I see sancho the Catallaxy Files’ witches-hat, is providing the usual public service again all day

    Again, some facts.
    Checked back to midday.
    All you see from me is two posts when I popped in a bit after 3:00.
    Meanwhile St Ruth (your sponsor-child from up North) sprayed 1632 words of gibberish spread over 16 separate posts.
    Go get your ducts in a row.

  183. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Lizzie at 6:38

    Time for a trade in on the Q5 and purchase of a new ICE car now. Before the Germans go completely overboard on electric cars, 

    Don’t stress about it.
    All this talk of abandoning ICE cars by 2025 – 2026 is virtue signalling and also designed to stampede people into higher margin EVs.
    It won’t happen in that time frame.

  184. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    the same can’t be said about europe

    Thirty or so cases per country?
    It’s a wonder there aren’t lots more because of the lifestyle. And the movement to and from Africa is much more in Europe than here.
    Nope, I’m not buying it as air-transmissable. Contact makes sense, airborne doesn’t.

    On the other hand these alarmists so want another pandemic, especially in time for the mid terms. And the money made from Covid has been beyond stratospheric.

  185. Winston Smith Avatar

    So how did he get the gun and other stuff through security at the airport?
    Or did the FBI give them to him after he’d landed?
    This story stinks like a dead wombat lying by the road for a week.

  186. Pedro the Loafer Avatar
    Pedro the Loafer

    Twiggy spends more on his morning tea than he does on “free” houses for indig wukkas.

    Also, a little pandering to the elders never hurt the bottom line.

  187. Thefrollickingmole Avatar
    Thefrollickingmole

    Aerosol component…

    That’s not how it’s spelt.

    “ an aerosol like a Bachi bazi boy at a Taliban turbans only bathhouse”

  188. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    Meanwhile St Ruth (your sponsor-child from up North)

    are you the same tosser that cried foul about verbaling yesterday?

    your problem sancho … is your own mouth

    be careful with it

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