Open Thread – Weekend 18 June 2022


Fishing Boats at Honfleur, Claude Monet, 1868

2,410 responses to “Open Thread – Weekend 18 June 2022”

  1. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    But Senator Thorpe, who is indigenous, said: “The Australian flag represents a colonial invasion, which massacred and murdered thousands of Aboriginal women, men and children”.

    Has mzzz thorpe grasped just how shit her ‘nation’ was if 213 men dodging getting shot at by Napoleon were enough to overthrow her ‘mob”?

  2. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    Lidia Thorpe says for First Nations people the Australian flag is ‘absurd’ and ‘an obscenity’

    Lidia should also know (but doesn’t, because she’s as thick as two short planks), that the presumed offensive part of the flag must be defeinition be limited to the Union Jack.

  3. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    or Elaine’s dancing – sweet fancy moses!

  4. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    anything by the yanks?

    It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia tickled my wrongness bone for humor.

    Only seen bits of episodes though.

    It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia
    Heres about a 3 minute condensed episode.

    start
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbavND3WqKE

    middle
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXsAVujGO-o

    end
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2KbJR8TBH4

  5. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Boambee Johnsays:
    June 21, 2022 at 4:48 pm
    Cassie

    Or censured? Maybe both, to be sure, to be sure?”

    Both BJ!

  6. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Mole

    Has mzzz thorpe grasped just how shit her ‘nation’ was if 213 men dodging getting shot at by Napoleon were enough to overthrow her ‘mob”?

    The First Fleet arrived here in January 1788. The French Revolution did not start until 1789, at which time Napoleon was still a relatively low level artillery officer.

  7. amortiser Avatar
    amortiser

    We need to get the message out that you were not fully protected, particularly against Omicron, until you have three doses,” he said.

    According to Mark Butler, the new health minister, we are fully protected against Omicron after having three doses. How is it then, that people who are triple vaxed are contracting omicron? The minister must know this but he still peddles the fully protected narrative.

    The problem here is the vaccines were aimed at the original Covid 19 strain but the virus has moved on from there. They are banking on a vaccine that is obsolete. The original strain and most of the other derivatives have been crowded out by Omicron. They hang their hats on the lower sickness and hospitalisation threshold but that makes no sense. If it can’t stop you contracting and spreading the virus how does it mitigate the illness?

    These clowns are having a lend of us but the fact that people are averse to getting boostered indicates that more and more are waking up.

  8. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    Dear Lord above, is that really how far we have fallen and failed as a people and a nation? That 800,000 of us would look up something that Lisa Wilkinson said?

    I suppose it is too much to hope that it was just 80 frightbats repeatedly opening it or sending links to each other in a frenzied belief that this will get the guy tossed in prison without poor Britnee having to run the gauntlet of evidence. Look what happened to poor Amber Heard!

  9. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Lidia Thorpe says for First Nations people the Australian flag is ‘absurd’ and ‘an obscenity’

    She presumes to speak for all indigenous people.

    Quite a few indigenous leaders came out today to criticse Bandt’s grandstanding.

  10. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Was the magistrate a liar?

    That’s the sort of question one might ask after you’ve opened your 2nd bottle at lunch at the Weld Club.

  11. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    So why does Thorpe use a viking name and accept a parliamentary salary?

  12. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Quite a few indigenous leaders came out today to criticse Bandt’s grandstanding

    That’s their job.

  13. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    There is something seriously wrong with an economy that enriches media parasites and attacks productive people like miners, farmers and manufacturers. The foul pair from Neutral Bay really are trash.

  14. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Duncan I can’t dance to save myself but still better than Elaine. Whoever came up with that is a genius. None of them had any shame.

  15. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    duncanm, good list but Seinfeld is not aging well, it’s still watchable but that’s about it.

    Have to disagree. The writing in Seinfeld is as good as anything from America. The characters were all superb eg Jackie Chiles.

  16. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    I never really watched Cheers but got the sense from Frasier of how much they needed to fill out and tweak his character. At the beginning of season one he still sported that unworldly academic mop and dressed in drab clothes – in contrast to his brother.

    Before long they had him sporting Armani tuxedos, telling of the unique cocktail of oils he used for his bath, and swooning at the sight of shoes hand made by an obscure Italian cordwainer in some small town in Italy.

  17. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    The brief Failyou-Napthine government in Vicco was disappointing but inoffensive imo. Maybe that’s a good as it gets. The current NSW Government is hard left.

  18. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    Quite a few indigenous leaders came out today to criticse Bandt’s grandstanding

    Important to make it clear that Bandt does not speak for Aborigines – he just sees them as a cudgel to clobber mainstream Australia with.

  19. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    Did I mention the shoemaker was Italian AND in Italy?

  20. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    The writing in Seinfeld is as good as anything from America. The characters were all superb eg Jackie Chiles.

    As was the acting.

    Which reminds me, Philip Baker Hall (library cop Lt. Joe Bookman) died last week.

  21. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    The problem here is the vaccines were aimed at the original Covid 19 strain but the virus has moved on from there.

    Odd, isn’t it?

    They said they sequenced the original Covid strain in two days to make the miraculous vaccines, but somehow have never managed to repeat that parlour trick for Delta, Omicron 1, Ba 1,2 3, 4, 5.. etc..

    (HT. commenter “John from OA” at https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/stunning-interview-with-michael-yeadon)

  22. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    Not much mention in the meeja about Callide QLD by-election:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/qld-callide-by-election-2022/results

    6.1% swing against Liebor…

  23. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    According to Mark Butler, the new health minister, we are fully protected against Omicron after having three doses.

    One month from the election and the Health Minister is already lying blatantly?
    At least we now know that nothing they say is believable.

  24. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    I follow a Seinfeld page on Instagram. Every post is followed by about 90 bits of script. It’s like an American Monty Python Flying Circus.

  25. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Has mzzz thorpe grasped just how shit her ‘nation’ was if 213 men dodging getting shot at by Napoleon were enough to overthrow her ‘mob”?

    “Muddy” summed up the situation well, on this blog, February 26th, 2018, at 3,43 P.M.

    “We can, and will do, nothing about the shame and humiliation you feel that your ancestors offered no real organized resistance, and indeed, in some circumstances enthusiastically enjoyed the improved life and benefits that the new civilization offered.”

  26. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Important to make it clear that Bandt does not speak for Aborigines – he just sees them as a cudgel to clobber mainstream Australia with.

    That’s exactly right- it’s all about marxist wrecking

  27. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    Bruce of Newcastlesays:
    June 21, 2022 at 5:45 pm
    According to Mark Butler, the new health minister, we are fully protected against Omicron after having three doses.

    One month from the election and the Health Minister is already lying blatantly?
    At least we now know that nothing they say is believable.

    lies, lies…

    https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/weekly-reports.aspx

    80 COVID-19 deaths reported this week … 49 (61%) had received a third dose.

    For the NSW population – 64% have had a third dose.

  28. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    So here is a possible scenario they go off for sex she passed out after undressing and he leaves.

    Lol x 1,000
    I’ve got another far more likely scenario, but why don’t we just wait for the Trial to start, if it ever does.
    If this guy’s got a good story to tell, perhaps he should switch lawyers because the ones he’s got aren’t keen for a Jury to hear it.

  29. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Rogersays:
    June 21, 2022 at 5:22 pm
    Lidia Thorpe says for First Nations people the Australian flag is ‘absurd’ and ‘an obscenity’

    She presumes to speak for all indigenous people.

    Quite a few indigenous leaders came out today to criticse Bandt’s grandstanding.

    Thorpe is one of about ten “indigenous members of Parliament (Senate and Reps). As such, she is currently a “Voice” to Parliament. Yet, other indigenous “voices” criticise her. How will adding another separate “Voice” gain any greater collective agreement?

  30. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Lisa wilkinson is also a prosecution witness in the trial

    Seriously?! Was she there on the night?

  31. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Groogs returns to his Mastermind special subject. No, not gypsum.

  32. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Important to make it clear that Bandt does not speak for Aborigines – he just sees them as a cudgel to clobber mainstream Australia with.

    There’s no mainstream Australia anymore and Bandt doesn’t claim to speak for aborigines.
    As i’ve commented previously, The Tasmanian Greens were a leftist outfit and worthy of support.
    Brown and his backers hijacked the Party back in the 1980s and the only thing it stands for now is it’s extreme Right backers at the big end of town.

    That’s exactly right- it’s all about marxist wrecking

    Wrong.
    You wouldn’t know what Marxism is.

  33. calli Avatar
    calli

    Lisa Wilkinson and calibre?

    Shooting her mouth off again.

  34. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Dickless

    Stop snorting the gypsum, it has destroyed whatever brain you once had.

  35. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Speaking of property rights, some outstanding scenes from Yellowstone which all about property rights and defending them:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dMxuqciYNk

  36. calli Avatar
    calli

    His treatment – sure. But, having spent some time in that environment, I can assure readers that creepy, opportunistic little shits like him are a dime a dozen.

    Appears to be a little shit rich environment. Male and female.

  37. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    The basis from a mainstream point of view of rightful Aboriginal ownership of Australia (that is, excluding their mythology as we also exclude the Genesis story of Adam and Eve being given dominion over the all lands and animals), is that they were here first. Or, if they were not first they are the last ones who extant who enjoyed sole possession of Australia.

    Apart from the fact that they were not a united people and squabbled endlessly over pieces of it. Within their tribes there is room for a hierarchy of possession.

    But even the distinction between being the first people and being latest people still present does not give the same status as the second means taking possession of an occupied land.

    If, just for the moment, the original people were not hunted down but merely out-competed then the claim to the land becomes that they were better able to benefit from it, exploit it, whatever word you want.

    And I have some sympathy with this. This will have happened repeatedly in human history. As a principle it would seem to make no sense that a small group of people struggling on a piece of geography should prevent a people who would flourish in the same place, just because they were there before (not necessarily first). The displacement will of course be painful for the few, but it can turn out to be beneficial within a generation or two if the displaced are allowed to join and benefit. The Romans were good at this.

    This is what we did too.

    Finally, however, the fact of the matter is that ultimately people hold possession of land according to the force they can bring to bear. This underwrites all. Even in the case above the newer people will have to force themselves on the older inhabitants. If I can’t defend my land against those who come after it I will lose it. I can pine after it, lament the loss, sigh plaintively to the Gods that it is really my land – that there is a connection that no sword can cut – but the guys with the guns will stay there.

  38. calli Avatar
    calli

    Spent the day at John Hunter – Dad will most likely go blind in one eye, poor old man. I have nothing but admiration for the medical staff there. They are first class.

  39. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    But Senator Thorpe, who is indigenous, said: “The Australian flag represents a colonial invasion, which massacred and murdered thousands of Aboriginal women, men and children”.

    so fucking what. has this fuckwit no knowledge of european wars and those of the rest of the world.

  40. Barking Toad Avatar
    Barking Toad

    Adam Bandt – traitor.

    So sad that Chris Kyle is not still with us.

  41. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    Groogs returns to his Mastermind special subject

    Formaldehyde and home well construction?
    Trying to snatch Montys wrongology crown?
    Oh. Oh I know: WW2 Naval history!!

  42. m0nty Avatar
    m0nty

    Excellent trolling by Bandt, much respect. He certainly triggered all you delicate snowflakes ??.

  43. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    The little terror will arrive soon. Time to hide the wifes paint and glitter.

  44. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Bigger swing against LNP, though it went to UAP and Katter and most of that returned to the LNP.
    No Greens candidate stood, Labor and Animal Justice Party didn’t do much good in Biloela.
    Perhaps Biloela is the reason the Media didn’t mention it?

  45. Timothy Neilson Avatar
    Timothy Neilson

    m0ntysays:
    June 21, 2022 at 6:07 pm
    Excellent trolling by Bandt, much respect. He certainly triggered all you delicate snowflakes ??.

    Stop projecting. No-one here has claimed to be distraught, or to feel “unsafe”, or to have any other symptoms of being “triggered”.
    You’re the one who squeals in sheer terror if someone expresses a view you don’t agree with, like you did during the vaxx mandates when others were opposing them.

  46. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    The problem here is the vaccines were aimed at the original Covid 19 strain but the virus has moved on from there.

    Well duh! What pea brained imbecile wrote this?

  47. Delta A Avatar
    Delta A

    Dad will most likely go blind in one eye, poor old man.

    Very sad for your dad and the family. But from what you have told us of him, I’m sure he will cope with his customary stoicism.

  48. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    Biloela.

    Legalise Cannabis – 7.4% first preferences.

    Says much.

  49. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    Monty appears on cue to defend his wrongology crown from retard-Ed.

    Anyone want to guess Montys reaction to a state premier ordering an Aboriginal flagpole removed from a structure??

  50. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Excellent trolling by Bandt, much respect. He certainly triggered all you delicate snowflakes ?

    Let me guess, munty cheering for policy decisions and consequences that he would yet again be incapable of surviving?

  51. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Excellent trolling by Bandt, much respect.

    Er…monty, indigenous leaders are concerned Bandt’s antics will put Elbow’s plans for constitutional recognition and a parliamentary voice, for which he needs popular support, at risk. And so they should be.

  52. Delta A Avatar
    Delta A

    The little terror will arrive soon. Time to hide the wifes paint and glitter.

    Yep. Know all about that.

    Granddaughter#1, (then aged 18 months) who we had named “Miss Perfect” because she was just sooo well behaved, found her mum’s makeup bag when the family were staying with their city granny. New carpets in her bedroom, new doona covers and fresh paintwork.

    Miss Perfect no more.

  53. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Someone in the press should ask Bandt what he thinks about the Green Party minister for the economy in Germany who has announced he’s restarting several coal-fired power stations.

  54. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    If only Bandt was trolling and not dog whistling to typical Greens voters – people like you who never manage to move beyond undergraduate stereotypes, doctor’s wives without a teal candidate to vote for and retired schoolteachers.

  55. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Roger at 6:23 – I’m not sure Albo needs Bandt’s help to fail.

  56. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Roger at 6:23 – I’m not sure Albo needs Bandt’s help to fail.

    He’s certainly not helping.

  57. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Someone in the press should ask Bandt what he thinks about the Green Party minister for the economy in Germany who has announced he’s restarting several coal-fired power stations.

    here’s what happened in Germany:
    they realised that their 50 year experiment with Nuclear Power turned out to be an expensive dud.
    Fortunately for them, their leaders didn’t blow up their coal fired power houses.

  58. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    m0ntysays:
    June 21, 2022 at 6:07 pm
    Excellent trolling by Bandt, much respect. He certainly triggered all you delicate snowflakes ??.

    m0nty-fa

    Do you support Bandt’s position?

    PS, it is you and the other effete members of the fascist left who are “triggered”. We more robust conservatives and libertarians just call out hypocritical bullsh1t as we see it. And it is hypocritical bulsh1t, until Bandit (and you) hand over all of your property and possessions to the local indigenous “peoples”, and beg their forgiveness for your trespasses. No hurry, now will do.

  59. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Fox News host Tucker Carlson reacts to the arrest of Stephen Colbert staffers after they breached the Capitol building

    Speaking of such things it turns out there were even more glowies at the 6 Jan protest than we thought.

    Police Report Proves Plainclothes Electronic Surveillance Unit Members Were Embedded Among Jan. 6 Protesters (21 Jun)

    Between these guys, Sullivan’s Antifa and Epps’ bunch it looks like several hundred of them were there. Just shows with all that attempted ginning up and incitement how decent and nice the real protesters were.

  60. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Mole

    Anyone want to guess Montys reaction to a state premier ordering an Aboriginal flagpole removed from a structure??

    Triggered?

  61. Top Ender Avatar
    Top Ender

    A happy story and a message – hammer the shop who says bad luck if your product fails.

    Harvey Norman have been impressive with a warranty claim, even if Sharp convection microwave ovens no longer are.

    The first one lasted over 10 years; the second around six, and the third two years and 10 months. It was well out of the one year warranty, but we advanced the argument that a warranty should match the $950 price – and Harvey agreed to fix it. Even though we’d moved interstate.

    Unfortunately the process then stopped due to lack of parts. For some six weeks this was the state of play, and then when Sharp finally supplied the parts, the appliance couldn’t be repaired. So we were offered a new convection microwave of our choice. When Mrs TE pointed out the one she selected was a lot cheaper than what she paid, she was given a $150 gift card.

    A sterling performance which brought a very frustrating experience to a happy conclusion.

  62. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    Delta

    It’s àll goog fun though. We respite over night most Tuesdays.
    Keeps the wifes spirit’s up.

  63. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    If only Bandt was trolling and not dog whistling to typical Greens voters –

    The typical Green voter is someone between 18 and 25.
    They’re likely to think
    “Good on him”
    Reduce the voting age to 16 and the Greens will become the Government.

  64. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Dickless

    here’s what happened in Germany:
    they realised that their 50 year experiment with Nuclear Power turned out to be an expensive dud.
    Fortunately for them, their leaders didn’t blow up their coal fired power houses.

    Still shilling for the Turdballs family investments in ruinables? I hope that Maocolm is providing suitable recognition for your efforts.

  65. 2dogs Avatar
    2dogs

    that flag is absurd. It’s an obscenity

    I suppose, given the Southern Cross’s position in the night sky, it can be viewed as being the Centaur’s penis, and so we have put a penis on our flag.

    Sad thing is, having done that, NZ copied us.

  66. Barking Toad Avatar
    Barking Toad

    Headline i n the Hun on-line:

    “The Bureau of Meteorology has declared the La Nina climate event officially over, countering US earlier forecasts that would see the cold, wet weather stick around for months.”

    Hahaha – can’t wait to see BoN chortling over this.

  67. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    H B Bearsays:

    June 21, 2022 at 6:25 pm

    If only Bandt was trolling and not dog whistling to typical Greens voters – people like you who never manage to move beyond undergraduate stereotypes, doctor’s wives without a teal candidate to vote for and retired schoolteachers

    Why just retired schoolteachers?
    Shouldn’t it be “schoolteachers past, present and emerging”.

  68. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    Dot, if you are about.

    Their ABCcess had Van Fatham flogging a new book/ interview where she has written a book of the laziest possible tropes about 4 chan/reddit and q anon.

    Imagine the depths of wrongology she delved doing that hit piece and multiply it by 10.

    And in the end what was ‘q” according to the fat piggy?

    Wussia!!!
    https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/bigideas/qanon-and-online-conspiracy-cults/13922750

    Conspiracy theories are not a new phenomenon.
    But the internet and, recently, the pandemic have turbocharged the dissemination of misinformation and disinformation.
    A disturbing number of people are now getting sucked into online conspiracy cults.
    One of the most prominent is QAnon, whose believers think a cabal of Satanic worshipping paedophiles operate a global child sex trafficking ring, and conspired against former U.S. President, Donald Trump.
    Van Badham spent a year undercover in the online conspiracy community researching her book,* QAnon And On She spoke to Paul Barclay.
    Recorded on May 14 at the Queenscliffe Literary Festival.
    Speaker:
    Van Badham – writer, theatre-maker, podcaster, and novelist.

    * Sat on her fat ass eating deep fried butter while being trolled on 4 chan.

  69. calli Avatar
    calli

    Dogs, I will never look at the flag in the same way again!

    It fits though with a country founded on convict labour. Giving the rude finger to the union jack. 🙂

  70. Top Ender Avatar
    Top Ender

    Interesting thought.

    So transgender blokes can’t play in women’s sport, ‘cos bigger muscle mass and bone density and so on.

    So how is it females can join the infantry, when their much less capable physique in battle would get them seriously maimed?

  71. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    STIMULUS!!!
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-21/nsw-budget-reveals-metro-tunnel-cost-blowout/101171264
    The project was estimated to cost between $11.5 billion and $12.5 billion.

    To date, the government has already spent almost $13 billion on the metro link that will connect Chatswood under the Sydney Harbour through to new stations in the CBD and south-west to Bankstown.

    Budget papers show the government expects the project to cost a further $5.1 billion over the coming four years.

    But we should totally trust health advice given by the same elite group of deep thinkers in charge.
    Because this time its different.

  72. Timothy Neilson Avatar
    Timothy Neilson

    To date, the government has already spent almost $13 billion on the metro link that will connect Chatswood under the Sydney Harbour through to new stations in the CBD and south-west to Bankstown.

    Budget papers show the government expects the project to cost a further $5.1 billion over the coming four years.

    In Victoria that would be regarded as a triumph of competent management of public funds.

  73. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    goog

    Geebus!

  74. Winston Smith Avatar

    Grey Ranga:

    Production engineer I worked with was high caste Indian. The contempt he showed for a low caste office worker was surprising to even the racist members of staff, and this was in the late 70’s.

    One of the reasons I don’t like Indians. And along with the accent that I find very difficult to grasp, and the refusal to make an effort to be understood, is the speed at which the race card can be played.

  75. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Dad will most likely go blind in one eye, poor old man.”

    I’m sorry to hear this calli. Stay strong.

  76. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Excellent trolling by Bandt, much respect. He certainly triggered all you delicate snowflakes ??.

    Surely, given his prior ill-health, montifa must have some sort of imminent illness.

  77. Winston Smith Avatar

    Dover Beach:

    Turkey is now considering leaving NATO.

    This would have enormous ramifications on many levels.

    Good – they can take their citizens out of the EU along with the pay packets.
    Don’t let the door etc…

  78. Bluey Avatar
    Bluey

    Top Endersays:
    June 21, 2022 at 6:45 pm
    Interesting thought.

    So transgender blokes can’t play in women’s sport, ‘cos bigger muscle mass and bone density and so on.

    So how is it females can join the infantry, when their much less capable physique in battle would get them seriously maimed?

    Shut up with your common sense. Not allowed.

    Have you seen the video of a chick trying to load the main gun on a tank? *facepalm*

  79. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Mate came over brought surprise pizza. I say surprise because its still a surprise how bad pineapple on pizza is.

  80. Delta A Avatar
    Delta A

    Keeps the wifes spirit’s up.

    And yours, I’ll wager. 🙂

  81. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    “The Bureau of Meteorology has declared the La Nina climate event officially over, countering US earlier forecasts that would see the cold, wet weather stick around for months.”

    Hahaha – can’t wait to see BoN chortling over this.

    Toad – I haven’t been keeping track of the indicators, but the last couple weeks there’ve been big loops of the jet stream up from the south. That’s what has brought the cold and the snow on the ski areas. It also has tended to push the usual high pressure systems north of where they’ve been lately, which probably has affected the SOI number. (And also caused the energy emergency because lack of wind.) This last couple weeks of decent weather has been very welcome though.

  82. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Meanwhile….

    Veterans’ Affairs lost $430m after former minister forced to make cuts
    Cloe Read
    By Cloe Read
    June 21, 2022 — 5.20pm

    A Coalition member was made to cut more than $430 million from the Department of Veterans’ Affairs to offset money allocated in the budget, as the department struggled under a 50,000-strong compensation claims backlog.

    Former veterans’ affairs minister Andrew Gee, who held the portfolio from July 2021 to May, told the Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicide that there was a clear link between the claims backlog and suicide rates within the defence community.

    He said the department was struggling under limited staffing and the system was “crying out for reform”.

    A report into the department’s compensation claims process found as of December 2021, there were 51,000 claims on hand, with 17,000 of those being processed.

    It found the backlog was due to DVA being “unable to keep up with rapidly growing claim demand,” with total claims growing by 48 per cent between June 2019 and July 2021.

    Despite the significant backlog and limited staffing for claims processing, Gee said he was made to cut $430 million to offset additional expenditure, which he said was counterintuitive.

    “It’s like one step forward and two steps back,” the former minister told the inquiry.

    “That was a big issue because that’s got to come from somewhere, and the department doesn’t mandate this, this is government.

    “I was quite surprised at the magnitude of that, but I just resolved to cut the cuts and do what we could do to reverse them.”

    When counsel assisting Peter Gray QC asked Gee if he was provided additional funding on the basis it “had to be saved by cuts to other areas”, Gee responded that he had no choice.

    Gray suggested the $430 million was an “enormous amount” and “the equivalent to the annual cost of running the DVA”, to which Gee agreed.

    Gee said it was only after the report into claims processing that the staffing issue came to light.

    “I didn’t have any reason to think they didn’t have enough money. It wasn’t an issue that came up until [the claims report],” he said.

    Gee said targets to address the almost 60,000-strong claims process “almost became irrelevant”.

    “Because what’s the point in, you know, you look at it and you go ‘well, what good are the targets anyways’ because you’re not going to get within a bull’s roar of them,” he said.

    Gee also said when he became veterans’ affairs minister, he did not think he was given a specific briefing on defence and veteran suicide, but he was “very aware of those issues”.

  83. calli Avatar
    calli

    Thanks Cassie. It will have huge ramifications for his independence. But the hospital was great – it’s packed to the gunnels but they managed to find him a bed. And the staff were so kind to him, over and above normal professionalism. Surgery tomorrow and then we’ll know.

  84. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Have you seen the video of a chick trying to load the main gun on a tank?

    I’ve seen chicks who had to have their packs carried for them on the march….

  85. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    LOL – Rowan Dean laying into goose morristeen (again).

  86. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    SloMo is more yesterday than a Gold Logie.

  87. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Winston this bloke was ok, spoke better English than most of us. Some of the guys said things to his face I would have beaten them to a pulp, him smiled and had a comeback that made them so pathetic.

  88. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Rowan Dean laying into goose morristeen (again).

    Er…we’ve moved on.

  89. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Ben Stiller to Zelenskyy:
    You are my hero

  90. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Most of the Anglo-Indians I know are great people

  91. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    SA gliberal senator Alex Antic expressing disquiet about the “trusted” digital identity bill – well, hold the talky thingy, Alex, it was your frigging party that was proposing it in the first place.

    Oh, the hypocrisy.

  92. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    China conducts ground-based midcourse anti-ballistic missile test

    Funny, there were some computer graphics but not much else and then the comments went into overdrive, such as:

    What a munificent sight to behold! Congratulations and way way to go CHINA!!!

    PRC online lackeys and bots are not very subtle it seems.

  93. Rockdoctor Avatar
    Rockdoctor

    Saw the place where Andrew Symonds met his demise today. Covered with flowers and an Aussie flag flying.

    Eastbound heading towards the city at Alice River crossing. No way could be suicide, a few deep creeks in the area and the road down the Harveys Range escarpment would be more certain. Driver falling asleep at the wheel or inattention much more likely. He was well on the wrong side and heading towards an embankment when the brakes were jammed on, black tyre marks still there. Also on moonless/cloudy nights can be very dark out that way.

    Interestingly enough Government recently spent a mint on long winded roadworks that ended up with a few barriers and new signs but not much else. Seemed like a pointless exercise without including the badly needed widening of 3 old bridges there.

  94. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    Err … we’ve moved on.

    I haven’t. Too much goose morristeen bashing is barely enough.

    The fat useless embarrassing expedient jellyfish now holds the title of the worst Australian PM ever.

    Quite the achievement, although Albanselazey has presumably just asked rat face Bowen to hold his craft beer.

  95. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Turkey is now considering leaving NATO.

    This would have enormous ramifications on many levels.

    Despite the problems they present, you’d rather have them in the tent pissing out…

    That being said, call their bluff.

  96. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    Rowan Dean’s opening editorial has ended with the following…

    “And finally just a question on something else”

    “Seeing as the judge told the media not to comment on the Brittany Higgins case, will Lisa Wilkinson now be charged with contempt of court and will she be suspended from Channel Ten or is it one rule for leftist celebrities and another for the rest of us?”

    Nicely said Rowan.

  97. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    RINO trash quoted on Breitbart

    Former chief strategist for the Bush-Cheney 2004 presidential campaign Matthew Dowd said Wednesday on MSNBC’s “The ReidOut” that if Republicans won the majority in the U.S. House and Senate, it would be the end of democracy.

    So if enough GOPers are democratically elected to form a majority in Congress it’s the end of democracy. Are these kunts stupid or disingenuous or think the voters are stupid?

  98. Bluey Avatar
    Bluey

    miltonfsays:
    June 21, 2022 at 7:31 pm
    RINO trash quoted on Breitbart

    Former chief strategist for the Bush-Cheney 2004 presidential campaign Matthew Dowd said Wednesday on MSNBC’s “The ReidOut” that if Republicans won the majority in the U.S. House and Senate, it would be the end of democracy.

    So if enough GOPers are democratically elected to form a majority in Congress it’s the end of democracy. Are these kunts stupid or disingenuous or think the voters are stupid?

    All of the above?

  99. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Daily Mail

    Notorious paedophile who thinks sex with children is ‘natural’ will be released into the community TODAY

    Notorious paedophile will be released from a WA prison on Tuesday
    Bradley Pen Dragon, 62, has spent more than half his life behind bars
    He spent 13 years in a Thailand jail for ‘depraved’ abuse of teenage girls
    WA Supreme Court ruled he will be released on 62 strict conditions

  100. Winston Smith Avatar

    Calli:

    Appears to be a little shit rich environment. Male and female.

    And this is the class of people who are ‘advising’ our governments.
    No bloody wonder we have such stupidity emanating from Canberra.

  101. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Matthew Dowd exemplifies the garbage the constitutes the political class.

  102. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Top Ender

    So how is it females can join the infantry, when their much less capable physique in battle would get them seriously maimed?

    What’s this about “in battle”? Check out the data (if you can find it) about training injuries.

  103. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Ben Stiller to Zelenskyy:
    You are my hero

    The photo with Macron was fun. Looked like sweet nothings were being murmured.

    An awkward photo of Macron and Zelensky has become an instant internet meme (21 Jun)

  104. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    An awkward photo of Macron and Zelensky has become an instant internet meme

    “Listen, Froggie, you stick your tongue in my ear, and you’re history!”

  105. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    One of the worst realisations was if you propose parking outside your Airbnb you just might not be able to, due to the lack of spaces. And you might have to pay for it up to 9pm.

    Top Ender, this applies to any airbnb in any world city. You have to check firstly that they provide parking and take no notice of statements that ‘there is street parking available’, because there usually isn’t. You pay a premium for a place with its own proper parking, but it’s the only way in cities if you are touring by car. And some of the so-called parking spots are humdingers, horribly tight for parking an SUV, which is what we had in Britain. We mostly tried for out-of-town cottages with parking (and even there it could turn out to be some impossibly tight area behind the cowshed) where we could drive in to the city centre and use parking stations for day trips. That meant we tended to either cook in-cottage or use take-away purchased in town and heated later, or there’d be the drive home after a city restaurant meal with a fair bit of local wine tasting and a fight (oh no, we never fight!) over who was designated driver this time. Of course it falls to me.

    Lucky I am so accommodating. Today in our new conservatory room Hairy put up the black iron gold-embossed E11R plaque capped with a golden Royal Crown, sourced from a redundant Royal buiding. I bought it on impulse passing by an antique shop in Windsor. I’m putting it up mid-way along the wall he said, as he disagrees with me fitting wall pictures designer-style to ‘balance’ with the furniture. His way wins. Man with the drill.

  106. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Zelenskyy’s a Flamer, so is Macron.
    If you think there is something odd about that,
    Dr. SpongeBob is available for consultations.

  107. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    “Listen, Froggie, you stick your tongue in my ear, and you’re history!”

    Uh, Zulu, that’s not what he’s thinkin’.

  108. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    The trannies better get the boas waving. Everybody is falling in behind FINA.

  109. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Have you seen the video of a chick trying to load the main gun on a tank?

    I’d be more worried about the driving, touch parking in a tank is no laughing matter.

  110. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Here’s what Zelenskyy was thinkin’ Zulu.

  111. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Ed Casesays:
    June 21, 2022 at 7:49 pm
    Zelenskyy’s a Flamer, so is Macron.

    Personal experience? Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  112. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    What’s this about “in battle”? Check out the data (if you can find it) about training injuries.

    Plenty of lawsuits in Israel over this “I wasn’t told that I would most probably leave the IDF physically disabled”.

  113. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    No bloody wonder we have such stupidity emanating from Canberra.

    You have to wonder about pollies hiring twenty somethings fresh from university as advisors. People aren’t worth speaking to until they are thirty.

  114. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    You have to wonder about pollies hiring twenty somethings fresh from university as advisors. People aren’t worth speaking to until they are thirty.

    more giving cushie jobs to friends/colleagues offspring for what ever reasons

  115. Colonel Crispin Berka Avatar
    Colonel Crispin Berka

    scientism @mr_scientism · Jun 7

    The private/public distinction is dazzle camouflage.

  116. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    “Seeing as the judge told the media not to comment on the Brittany Higgins case, will Lisa Wilkinson now be charged with contempt of court and will she be suspended from Channel Ten or is it one rule for leftist celebrities and another for the rest of us?”

    I expect the judicial statement of “gritted teeth” answers that question.

    For did not Blackstone say:

    If a manne be of ye lefte, his spoken opinions, howsoever mean and slite, they shalle be of greater account than a justice sittinge in his courte…

  117. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    How an old Cranbrookian with a BA could have any idea about the concerns of a swinging voter in a marginal seat is beyond me.

  118. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    You have to wonder about pollies hiring twenty somethings fresh from university as advisors. People aren’t worth speaking to until they are thirty.

    In many cases they are just being warehoused till they can be dropped in as candidates – the so called professional politician.

  119. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    If a manne be of ye lefte, his spoken opinions, howsoever mean and slite, they shalle be of greater account than a justice sittinge in his courte…

    That’s a large Scotch, and a new keyboard you owe me…

  120. Bear Necessities Avatar
    Bear Necessities

    You have to wonder about pollies hiring twenty somethings fresh from university as advisors. People aren’t worth speaking to until they are thirty.

    In many cases they are just being warehoused till they can be dropped in as candidates – the so called professional politician.

    It’s too risky for political party’s to get people in their thirties, forties and fifties with their own thoughts and have had a broad life experience. They show up the machine men and women for the incompetents they are.

  121. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Here’s what Zelenskyy was thinkin’ Zulu.

    Did Macron ask “is that a 44 Magnum in your trousers, or are you just happy to see me?”
    Big Z is, after all, an accomplished keyboard player.

  122. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    H B Bearsays:

    June 21, 2022 at 7:52 pm

    The trannies better get the boas waving. Everybody is falling in behind FINA.

    Honestly, I think this is finally a bridge too far for a lot of people.
    We had lunch with an old friend today. His wife is a rustadon lefty on almost everything. If she doesn’t vote ALP, she would go Green or Teal.
    The subject of trannie swimmers came up.
    “Here we fucking go”, I thought. “A lecture on transphobia.”
    But no.
    Totally anti, and was also scathing about the general issue of cocks in frocks accessing womens toilets and changerooms.
    Gave trannie storytime a whack on the way through for good measure as well.
    Surprising.

  123. Timothy Neilson Avatar
    Timothy Neilson

    H B Bearsays:
    June 21, 2022 at 8:07 pm

    Also they’re like the door staff at a nightclub – useful for preventing anyone undesirable getting access. At a nightclub “undesirable” includes likely to start a punch on, sell drugs, assault a chick etc. In politics “undesirable” is someone who might tell the Minister something the minister doesn’t want to know and then reveal publicly that the minister knew. Any hint that a minister might have to deal with reality means that the conveyor of truth will never see anyone but a succession of staffers.

  124. 132andBush Avatar
    132andBush

    The typical Green voter is someone between 18 and 25.

    Which is monty’s mental age.

  125. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    Rape charges without physical evidence are hard to prove.
    Even less likely is the concept that Lisa Wilkinson is a journalist.

  126. DrBeauGan Avatar
    DrBeauGan

    The typical Green voter is someone between 18 and 25.

    Which is monty’s mental age.

    You reckon? You’re a generous soul.

  127. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    JC says: June 21, 2022 at 7:27 pm

    Fester, is this you on the left?

    No. It is not.
    It is noted that you’re online searching for photos of me.

  128. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    The typical Green voter is someone between 18 and 25.

    That’s not the situation anymore.

  129. Bluey Avatar
    Bluey

    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
    June 21, 2022 at 8:20 pm
    JC says: June 21, 2022 at 7:27 pm

    Fester, is this you on the left?

    No. It is not.
    It is noted that you’re online searching for photos of me.

    Who doesn’t like a bit of cyberstalking?

  130. John Sheldrick Avatar

    Lidia Thorpe says for First Nations people the Australian flag is ‘absurd’ and ‘an obscenity’

    There were never any First Nations people here. They all live in Canada.

  131. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    I know it’s remake but Wrath of Man is another Guy Ritchie cracker.
    Apart from the Madonna movie, he’s directed some rip-roaring flicks.
    I loved the King Arthur one even though the critics hated it.

  132. 132andBush Avatar
    132andBush

    The typical Green voter is someone between 18 and 25.

    In fact that’s the mental age of all greens voters.

  133. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    The Man from Uncle was pretty good, as was RocknRolla. Alicia Vikander is very cute in the former.

  134. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Alicia Vikander

    Her new vehicle on Fox set in Paris is a real punish.

  135. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    JC, that’s a horrible photograph which has no application to any Cat here. But thanks for showing us how awful that crew really are.

    Bruce of Newcastle is a gentleman of the old school, hardly anyone’s Uncle Fester, and much appreciated for that. He has a Phd in some sort of chemical metallury and seems to me to have a good grasp on a lot of issues to do with climate science. Chemistry is hard, JC. Not for wankers and pikers.

    I am biased of course, because Bruce loves birdies just as I do.
    The winter is hard on them Bruce, but I think they are glad I am home.
    I am glad to see them too. 🙂

  136. John Sheldrick Avatar

    The typical Green voter is someone between 18 and 25.

    In fact that’s the mental age of all greens voters.

    Actually, 18 to 25 is their range of IQs and that’s on the high side……………..lol

  137. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    132andBushsays:
    June 21, 2022 at 8:27 pm
    The typical Green voter is someone between 18 and 25.

    In fact that’s the mental age of all greens voters.

    However, the bell curve is skewed markedly to the left.

  138. Bourne1879 Avatar
    Bourne1879

    From Daily Mail below. I did see somebody mention earlier that Wilkinson was a witness but that was first I had heard of it. Does anybody know how long after the event it was before Higgins spoke to Wilkinson ? Clearly it would have been a fair time after Higgins talked about it with Defence Minister Reynolds and a senior female staffer.

    Defence counsel is going to have fun with Wilkinson as the conviction of the accused is clearly related to the highlight of her career. Him being acquitted will be bad for her reputation and take the gloss oiff the Logie. Her “evidence” is now biased in the extreme.

    I find it incredible she is allowed as a witness and has been allowed to comment on the case so publicly for so long. The Prosecution should have silenced her once it was apparent going to be a witness. That she will be a witness shows how far they are going to convict him. Isnt the evidence from security staff and Defence Minister enough to support her case ?

    Going to be a must watch case. However watch out for her trying to give evidence in camera and how ironic that would be.

    Lisa Wilkinson was warned her Logies speech could jeopardise a rape trial but went ahead with it anyway before her decision backfired spectacularly and the judge delayed the case.

    Brittany Higgins’ accused rapist Bruce Lehrmann was granted a temporary stay in the ACT Supreme Court on Tuesday after his lawyer said a jury trial would be ‘untenable’ following the reporting of The Project host’s winning speech.

    Ms Wilkinson met with the Director of Public Prosecutions Shane Drumgold on June 15 to discuss the evidence that she would give at the trial.

    At the end of the meeting, Ms Wilkinson was asked if she had any questions and mentioned she had been nominated for a Logie award, according to a note of the meeting taken by the DPP.

    Ms Wilkinson expressed that she did not think she would win because it was organised by a rival network but proceeded to read the speech she intended to give if victorious.

    Chief Justice Lucy McCallum told the court the journalist had previously sought advice on whether the speech was appropriate.

    However, the DPP stopped her and advised that he had no power to approve or provide advice on the speech.

    ‘We are not speech editors,’ Mr Drumgold told Ms Wikinson.

    Justice McCallum said Ms Wilkinson went ahead with her plans in spite of the warning.

    ‘Notwithstanding that clear and appropriate warning, upon receiving the award, Ms Wilkinson gave a speech in which she openly referred to and praised the complainant in the present trial,’ she said.

    Justice Mc Callum said recent media publicity had prejudged Lehrmann’s right to a fair trial.

    ‘The case has accordingly attracted a level of attention in the media … that while not unprecedented, is certainly extreme,’ she said.

    ‘Extensive media reporting of alleged criminal conduct is not mischievous in itself.

    ‘What is a potential mischief is media reporting of such issues in such a way … it impacts the criminal case.’

    Justice McCallum says while jurors can be given directions to mitigate prejudice, this case was different with Wilkinson being a key witness.

    No date has been set for the trial, but the judge said she wants the trial to be held this year, with an October listing probably providing enough time for publicity to dissipate.

    Earlier, Justice McCallum slammed Ms Wilkinson’s speech, saying the line between an allegation and the finding of guilt was ‘completely obliterated’ by her Logies speech.

    Ms Wilkinson won a Logie for her reporting on Ms Higgins’ claim that she was raped in Parliament House.

    On Monday, Mr Drumgold said the Logies speech was a ‘regurgitation’ of emotion, making the point that Ms Wilkinson had said similar things previously.

    Justice McCallum said, in summary, Ms Wilkinson’s speech amounted to saying: ‘Not only do I believe her, but she’s brave and extraordinary and she’s the most important thing that’s ever happened to me and I’m proud of bringing forward her allegation

    ‘We know that the accused has given a recorded interview in which he denies any sexual activity took place,’ she said.

    A previous stay application was dismissed by Justice McCallum in April, when she said she wasn’t persuaded directions given to the jury couldn’t alleviate concerns of prejudice against Lehrmann.

    Mr Drumgold argued the second application constituted ‘a re-agitation of that order’.

    The case was initially due to begin on June 6 but was delayed until June 27 after Lehrmann’s barrister pulled out days before the trial.

  139. dover0beach Avatar

    The trannies better get the boas waving. Everybody is falling in behind FINA.

    Thank you to the non-Western members.

  140. dover0beach Avatar

    Re the Wilkinson story, simply unbelievable. You’re a prosecution witness, the trial is imminent, and you make prejudicial statements against the accused at the Logies. What a farce.

  141. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    I don’t know much about court proceedings but could do the defence have Wilkinson stuck off as a witness because she has a vested interest in promoting the defendant’s guilt?

  142. John Sheldrick Avatar

    The trannies better get the boas waving. Everybody is falling in behind FINA.

    I remember in the 1960s when a tranny (trannie) was the short name for a transistor radio………….

  143. DrBeauGan Avatar
    DrBeauGan

    Thank you to the non-Western members.

    Things are pretty bad in the West when the middle east looks sane and rational compared with us.

  144. dover0beach Avatar

    Apologies about the new OT. Completely slipped my mind today. Will go up at midnight.

  145. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Bourne1879says:
    June 21, 2022 at 8:44 pm”

    Thanks for that. What a disgrace. It’s clear that Wilkinson thinks laws are for little people.

  146. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    ‘Controversial’ is such a beloved scare word on the left. It is meant to make people feel uncomfortable in their opinion, perhaps enough to make emotion cloud their thinking and fall in line.

    Surely, what it really means is that an opinion or idea threatens upheaval in the status quo. In the case of the trans athletes the prevailing opinion in society already was that blokes in sheilas’ swimming costumes did not belong in women’s events.

    The controversial opinion is to say that they do.

    Lefties, always projecting.

  147. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    I’d be more worried about the driving, touch parking in a tank is no laughing matter.

    As mate said about ladies getting a Boeing 747 rating (I know one), if she can fly the plane, give her the rating, it’s not like she’s going to have to reverse parallel park the thing.

  148. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    What is Lisa Wilkinson has done his reveal the quality of her judgement.

    The same kind of judgement that she got the springs to her freaking book.

    Seriously, what kind of a journalist doesn’t realise what’s at stake and what the court’s expectations are?

    How could anyone think they’re going to be getting a informative tome from the silly cow?

  149. John Sheldrick Avatar

    The typical Green voter is someone between 18 and 25.

    Which is monty’s mental age.

    Incorrect. It’s his range of IQ and that’s on the high side…………………………..

  150. John Sheldrick Avatar

    I don’t know much about court proceedings but could do the defence have Wilkinson stuck off as a witness because she has a vested interest in promoting the defendant’s guilt?

    She is now a hostile witness.

  151. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Wilkinson is prima facie guilty of Sub judice contempt having made a public comment on current proceedings. Being a witness for the prosecution aggravates any offence as does the fact the court has already made rulings about media and public commentary resulting in one previous application for a suspension of the hearing. She’s a fucking disgrace and she should at the least be heavily fined. Her testimony is irredeemably tarnished and if allowed to testify would be easy meat (sic) for the defence.

  152. Dot Avatar

    Lisa wilkinson is also a prosecution witness in the trial

    What the actual fuck!?

  153. lotocoti Avatar
    lotocoti

    Some people really need to be dropped into a volcano.

  154. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    JC, that’s a horrible photograph

    It sure is- depraved, degenerate and mocking.

  155. Dot Avatar

    “It could be put, you should put out of your mind everything you think you know about this case,” Drumgold told the court. “The reporting in this matter, factually, is almost without exception wrong … almost without exception, contrary to the evidence that will be put to this courtroom.”

    So Higgins had no lapse in memory and didn’t destroy evidence contrary to legal advice?

    This Drumgold fella either has the best prosecution ever or is seriously shit talking.

    How can the press get everything wrong if they’re being a stalking horse for Higgins’s allegations???

  156. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Eyrie how do female 747 pilots know where they’re going? Do they turn the map?

  157. Winston Smith Avatar

    Petition demanding Adam Bandt’s actions have brought outrage from across the Veteran community and families calling for his immediate apology, and actions to be taken by the Government and/or the Governor-General to ensure that this disrespect is held accountable.
    Here.

  158. Chris Avatar
    Chris

    132andBushsays:
    June 21, 2022 at 8:27 pm
    The typical Green voter is someone between 18 and 25.
    In fact that’s the mental age of all greens voters.

    I think you underestimate the challenge of self-lobotomy; they have perfectly good minds – or did when they were born.
    The struggle is rheeeeeal.

  159. John Sheldrick Avatar

    Daily Mail

    Notorious paedophile who thinks sex with children is ‘natural’ will be released into the community TODAY

    Notorious paedophile will be released from a WA prison on Tuesday
    Bradley Pen Dragon, 62, has spent more than half his life behind bars
    He spent 13 years in a Thailand jail for ‘depraved’ abuse of teenage girls
    WA Supreme Court ruled he will be released on 62 strict conditions

    Release him in the middle of the Great Sandy Desert with no water and no food. Keep the leg chains on as well. That should fix it.

  160. Dot Avatar

    Wilkinson is so lucky she is not a pleb in a state district/county court.

    The judge would have fucking annihilated her.

    I would have as well.

    Drumgold should start sharpening his pencils. He needs to start writing a new resume. Any defence Wilkinson would raise is dependent on Drumgold being incompetent or complicit.

  161. Chris Avatar
    Chris

    GreyRanga says:
    June 21, 2022 at 9:20 pm
    Eyrie how do female 747 pilots know where they’re going? Do they turn the map?

    I turn the map all the time. So do the St Hilda’s Cadets, I imagine. It’s part of getting a clear visualisation of the 2D – or if airborne or underground, 3D.

  162. Barking Toad Avatar
    Barking Toad

    Wilkinson is married to Hankie Head.

    Say no more.

  163. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    how do female 747 pilots know where they’re going? Do they turn the map?

    Some of them just point the fork in a different direction.

  164. Franx Avatar
    Franx

    About some people deserving to be dropped into volcanoes – I think the Catanians have it that a certain English queen entered hell via etna.

  165. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Mother Lodesays:

    June 21, 2022 at 9:06 pm

    What is Lisa Wilkinson has done his reveal the quality of her judgement.

    She’s just blown up her Seven-Nilligan moment.

  166. John Sheldrick Avatar

    Excellent trolling by Bandt, much respect. He certainly triggered all you delicate snowflakes ??.

    Adam Piss Ant has shown no respect for the Australian National Flag or any respect for the Australian Federal Gov’ment. Veterans to say the least are up in arms. If you have “much respect” for the turd then you are actually much worse than he is you “Monty Monkey Pox Virus”……………………

  167. Barking Toad Avatar
    Barking Toad

    From the Oz on-line headline……..

    “The Albanese government will provide 4200 GPS trackers to Sri Lanka’s fishing fleet to prevent vessels being used by people smugglers”

    Hahaha …..”what’s this boss”…. “I dunno, stick it on your bike and show yer missus”. (*)

    (* not actual Ceylon translation)

  168. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Seriously, what kind of a journalist doesn’t realise what’s at stake and what the court’s expectations are?

    A former Dolly editor and toast and marmalade brekkie TeeVee hostess.

  169. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Hard to see what evidence Mrs Pirate Pete could give that is relevant. But I would say the same about Groogs. Who should be in Sulawesi counting wholesale freezers during the dry season anyway.

  170. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    China’s food crisis is exacerbated by world environment, covid-19, floods and corrupt officials…

    China Insights

    As food prices have been rising over the past few months and Beijing has been feeling the pinch, part of the action taken by the Chinese government has been a massive arrest of corrupt officials, large and small, in the food system. The question is, will this work?

    China has been having a systemic shortage of food. On the one hand, large tracts of good land have been polluted by industry or used as industrial land; on the other hand, the Chinese Communist Party’s policy of suppressing food prices has made peasants unwilling to grow food, and a large influx of peasant workers into the cities has left much of the arable land barren. Food has been in short supply forever.

  171. hzhousewife Avatar
    hzhousewife

    Min your timeline comments concur with what I have also heard.

  172. John Sheldrick Avatar

    To date, the government has already spent almost $13 billion on the metro link that will connect Chatswood under the Sydney Harbour through to new stations in the CBD and south-west to Bankstown.

    Budget papers show the government expects the project to cost a further $5.1 billion over the coming four years.

    And what did the Snowy River Project cost over all those years? Was there ever an initial Project Cost? If there was. I bet that the people just got on with their lives and didn’t much bother about it. However, having said that, I bet that the Project was far better run than the Sydney Light Rail and now the Metro Rail. Gov’ment Project Management with Public Works (now called Infrastructure) is now a lost skill and art.

  173. John Sheldrick Avatar

    China has been having a systemic shortage of food. On the one hand, large tracts of good land have been polluted by industry or used as industrial land; on the other hand, the Chinese Communist Party’s policy of suppressing food prices has made peasants unwilling to grow food, and a large influx of peasant workers into the cities has left much of the arable land barren. Food has been in short supply forever.

    Reminds me of all those Soviet 5 Year Plans. Then the next 5 Year Plan, then the next 5 Year Plan, zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  174. Winston Smith Avatar

    Zipster:

    China has been having a systemic shortage of food. On the one hand, large tracts of good land have been polluted by industry or used as industrial land; on the other hand, the Chinese Communist Party’s policy of suppressing food prices has made peasants unwilling to grow food, and a large influx of peasant workers into the cities has left much of the arable land barren. Food has been in short supply forever.

    Marxism says people must starve if the system cannot provide food. IIRC The Soviet Union allowed peasants to grow private plots of vegetables, and the 3% of land devoted to them supplied 30% of the USSRs food production.
    OK, our government told us that so it’s probably a lie, but whatever.

  175. Bourne1879 Avatar
    Bourne1879

    Wilkinsons evidence, whatever it may be, IMHO is now compromised by the fact her reputation is so dependent on the outcome. I would think her evidence and how she responds to cross examination might actually be more harmful than helpful to the prosecution. Zero credibility.

    Would have liked to see judge call her to Canberra to explain herself.

    Just incredible.

  176. Thefrollickingmole Avatar
    Thefrollickingmole

    A modest proposal.
    Criminal and civil penalties should increase the more educated a person is.

    Bogan mongs might get a month in the slot/ $5000 fine but a highly credentialed gender studies/ lawyer should face a year and $100,000 for the same thing.

    Since we are apparently dismissing criminal contempt charges based on womens weekly mentions this shouldn’t seem excessive. Just fairer.

  177. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Would have liked to see judge call her to Canberra to explain herself.

    Now that would have been worth the price of admission. Particularly in view of instructions given by the DPP.

  178. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    but a highly credentialed gender studies/ lawyer should face a year and $100,000 for the same thing.

    preposterous, something like that would cripple Bunnings

  179. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    ACT Chief Justice Lucy McCallum said her judgement was made “through gritted teeth”, warning the line between allegation and a finding of guilt had been “obliterated”.

    “The recent publicity does in my view, change the landscape because of its immediacy, its intensity and its capacity to obliterate the important distinction between an allegation that remains untested at law and and one that has been accepted by a jury giving a true verdict according to the evidence,” she told the court.

    Ms Wilkinson is expected to be called as a witness when the trial commences.

    The court heard Ms Wilkinson was given a “clear and appropriate” warning during a pretrial conference on June 15 the defence could launch a stay application in the event of increased publicity.

    it’s a woman

  180. John Sheldrick Avatar

    So how is it females can join the infantry, when their much less capable physique in battle would get them seriously maimed?

    The Israeli Army doesn’t seem to have a problem with female soldiers. Maybe they have a better physique than you might think.

  181. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    Mother Lode says:
    June 21, 2022 at 9:06 pm
    What is Lisa Wilkinson has done his reveal the quality of her judgement.

    that was clear when she hooked up with the pirate.

    The defense can demolish Wilkinson in court over this.. so she’s become a lame duck, really.

  182. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    The accused might well have a case for a civil suit against Wilkinson considering she had defamed him very publicly (and she can’t feign ignorance) and, more to the point, the extension of time and added stress that accompanies it.

    If he is innocent the wheels of justice will have ground slowly and crushingly enough, but to have the process more protracted by the wilful showboating of a journo in her own element then that is something else.

  183. John Sheldrick Avatar

    Wilkinsons evidence, whatever it may be, IMHO is now compromised by the fact her reputation is so dependent on the outcome. I would think her evidence and how she responds to cross examination might actually be more harmful than helpful to the prosecution. Zero credibility.

    Would have liked to see judge call her to Canberra to explain herself.

    This is actually quite ridiculous. Was this Wilko tart there when the alleged incident happened? No, I didn’t think so. So, Wilko tart did an interview with the woman alleged to have been raped? Does Wilko tart work for the Police? No, as Wilko tart is a low rent Journo who should now be held in Contempt of Court. Wilko tart only has hearsay “evidence” which is not evidence in a Court of Law. Only in a Kangaroo Court. Case closed by the Wilko tart. Be off with you woman……………………

  184. Gabor Avatar
    Gabor

    John Sheldrick says:
    June 21, 2022 at 10:31 pm

    So how is it females can join the infantry, when their much less capable physique in battle would get them seriously maimed?

    The Israeli Army doesn’t seem to have a problem with female soldiers. Maybe they have a better physique than you might think.

    They changed the rules, now no more frontline service in certain cases, not quite the full bottle on this but you can look it up.

  185. Bourne1879 Avatar
    Bourne1879

    How many people do you get to speak to and how long after the incident is permisable for them to count as a witness. The first chance was when leaving building the next morning as by then must have realised something had happened. In view of the fact Defence Minister Reynolds was not very complimentary towards Higgins her evidence is going to be interesting.

    I note no legal experts yet to express an opinion on this but I guess might further prejudice the trial if they come out on either side of this.

    “Was this Wilko tart there when the alleged incident happened? No, I didn’t think so.”.

  186. Perfidious Albino Avatar
    Perfidious Albino

    You have to wonder if Wilkinson is deliberately trying to avoid being cross examined in the witness box and what she just did seemed like her least worst option?

  187. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    youse don’t get it

    your law doesn’t apply anymore

    expecially youse lawyers … dumbarses

  188. jupes Avatar
    jupes

    The Israeli Army doesn’t seem to have a problem with female soldiers. Maybe they have a better physique than you might think.

    It does actually. They were ordered to accept females in combat roles by the high court. Rather than then claiming that females are equal to men as our stupid military does, they confined their employment to border patrol battalions. These battalions still have an operational role, however major combat operations are not included. Only all male units fight in Gaza or Lebanon.

  189. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    They changed the rules, now no more frontline service in certain cases, not quite the full bottle on this but you can look it up.

    From what I’ve read, the Isreali Army hasn’t used female soldiers on the front line since before the Yom Kippur war of 1973. There was an incident on the Golan Heights, when the Syrians first attacked. Taken by surprise, there wasn’t time to evacuate female soldiers as the policy called for, and the Syrians gang-raped and murdered them all.

  190. JC Avatar

    Thanks for the lecture, Liz. In all the years you’ve been posting I’ve never once got involved or said anything about you. I suggest you do the same and mind your own fucking business. I don’t particularly care for bullshit artists and Fester is a bullshittter. You’d know a bullshitter, right? Recall telling us how you were a young, great looking 38 year old , trying to arouse the old blokes here with soft porn lingo. You were really pushing, what, 83? Fester doesn’t appear to lie about himself personally, but he bullshits big time about topical issues.

  191. Bruce in WA Avatar
    Bruce in WA

    From what I’ve read, the Isreali Army hasn’t used female soldiers on the front line since before the Yom Kippur war of 1973. There was an incident on the Golan Heights, when the Syrians first attacked. Taken by surprise, there wasn’t time to evacuate female soldiers as the policy called for, and the Syrians gang-raped and murdered them all.

    Yes, as I recall the Syrians were also quite creative with a sawn-off broomstick …

  192. NoFixedAddress Avatar
    NoFixedAddress

    Dover0Beach

    I actually post this with cap in hand.

    The foul Bird Flock that shit in your nest come over to the… yuk yuk furniture store and leave their anti Jew shit which is actually banned from the yuk yuk furniture store.

    I give to to you the following last 4 ip addresses banned from the yuk yuk furniture store and all posting under guest name… Socialist Energy… yuk yuk

    And if someone wants to have a go at me for doing this then bring it on you foul arz lickers…

    49.179.5.161

    49.195.21.25

    123.51.19.178 (must have escaped from the North Melbourne mansion basement)

    49.186.68.79

  193. JC Avatar

    Jupes,

    I don’t buy that entirely. In the modern world all kids starting out in life either commencing work life after uni or getting a trade are very likely poorer than their parents etc. Also, this sort of comparison would be appropriate for perhaps generations after ww1. It’s not very long.

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