Open Thread – Weekend 2 July 2022


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H B Bear
H B Bear
July 2, 2022 11:38 am

Pyne cheese

Antibiotics are your friend. See your GP if symptoms persist.

Cassie of Sydney
July 2, 2022 11:39 am

Am having problems commenting. Is anyone else experiencing the same?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 2, 2022 11:39 am

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
July 2, 2022 at 10:57 am
GreyRanga says: July 2, 2022 at 9:36 am

Salvatore you could hire Ken Worth for $250 for the nights work. Only problem him being a dead shit wouldn’t qualify as a live act.

I don’t even know what this means.

His acclaimed talents as a travelling troubadour.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 2, 2022 11:41 am

Just ticked over 20 degrees. Freezing, but will brave some outdoor pursuits anyway.

Wow Townsville’s warmer than Darwin… We hit 20 about an half an hour ago and yes it is cool but the jumpers are off for the time being.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 2, 2022 11:42 am

you do the deluded no favours blocking me Dover

He said, while clearly not being ‘blocked’.

It’s just Sancho talking to himself.
Looks like he’s going to inflict the Struth character [catchphrase: I reckon Knuckle Dragger is a good bloke] on an undeserving readership [again].

Eyrie
Eyrie
July 2, 2022 11:43 am

MT, they are still carrying on about wind and solar. Just build the nukes, then everything else is surplus to requirements.

Tom
Tom
July 2, 2022 11:44 am

Central Markets is your friend. Possibly the best markets in Oz and one of a handful of things worth saving if SA was on fire.

Correct, Humphrey.

IMO, Adelaide Central Market is the best in Australia.

Disclosure: As a youth, I used to have a casual job there, spruiking fruit and veg to the passing human parade.

dopey
dopey
July 2, 2022 11:46 am

Sydney Morning Herald: Paul Daley. Historic wrongs haunt the present in Walkley winner’s profound new novel.
He knew he wanted Jesustown to be “about these competing narratives in Australian history, between the trope that Australia was built on 1788 Federation, 1915 Gallipoli, verses this rich antiquity of Indigenous history going back 60,000 years.”
Forget the Walkley, Nobel Prize stuff.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 2, 2022 11:49 am

Grey Ranga, saw it a few days ago in Daily Mail and even Newscorpse ran something. Breitbart had a fair bit more info though so could be something to your assertion.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 2, 2022 11:49 am

Paul Kelly in today’s Oz … His view on the Capitol ‘invasion’ enquiry seems to come down rather heavily on the left-liberal view of that process, but in general he is accurate in identifying a moral crisis

Mr Kelly has been orbiting reality, like a moth does a flame, for so long now. He gets a little closer from time to time like in this article, then gets singed by gauche trumpishness whereupon he flees back into the safe wet darkness. He and Ramirez are similar.

One reason why I don’t read the Oz anymore. It’s infuriating.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 2, 2022 11:51 am

She is not writing a book ­“because there are too many books in the world, and so many of them are horrible”.

Germaine Greer will discuss her experience in aged care as a guest at the Canberra Writers Festival on August 13.

Attendees of the Canberra Writers Festival may expect an ear-boxing from the good professor?

P
P
July 2, 2022 11:55 am

Census: atheism on the rise
The Catholic Weekly

Tom
Tom
July 2, 2022 11:59 am

One reason why I don’t read the Oz anymore. It’s infuriating.

The silly old fossil [Paul Kelly] has been a Liars spruiker at the Paywallian since the Whitlam years.

I still have a sub so I can access Leak junior’s cartoons. As I do here, I scroll past the rubbish (Kelly, etc) and, unlike Bruce of Newk, my blood pressure is normal.

Struth
July 2, 2022 12:00 pm

He said, while clearly not being ‘blocked’.

Depending on what I say.
Can’t have the denialists upset.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 2, 2022 12:01 pm

Census: atheism on the rise

This datum will warm Cassie’s heart though.

Jewish population of Australia close to 100,000 for first time (Arutz Sheva, 30 Jun)

Good. Our Jewish brothers and sisters overachieve like crazy: we need more of them.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 2, 2022 12:01 pm

this rich antiquity of Indigenous history going back 60,000 years.”

Why not make 80,000 years? So rich we invented a stick you threw to kill food. Now we throw sticks to maim people we don’t like when we’re pissed. Don’t forget the history of beating the missus and raping kids. Did I mention we invented a stick……….

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 2, 2022 12:02 pm

You’d need to have rocks in your head to let the Census know you identified as Christian.
Strange as it may seem, it appears that many Christians don’t have rocks in their head.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 2, 2022 12:04 pm

Rockdoctorsays:
July 2, 2022 at 11:49 am
Grey Ranga, saw it a few days ago in Daily Mail and even Newscorpse ran something. Breitbart had a fair bit more info though so could be something to your assertion.

If a conservative even looked sideways it would be on 24/7.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 2, 2022 12:06 pm

Imagine being dumped in some decrepit old peoples home to see out your days in peace and quiet and somebody wheels in Germain Greer.

I don’t know; at least you’d get some decent conversation out of her.

My dad was in one of those places and ended up taking his meals in his room.

He said going to the dining room was too depressing.

I see lots of commentary upthread on Germs in aged care. Interesting concept, isn’t it?

I think I would be like that in aged care. Don’t even think about it, says Hairy, hugging me as he comes to bed last night telling me about reading this piece. You will never be old.

Well, he’s been telling me that ever since I met him. lol.

My dad, the old curmudgeon, was in aged care, placed there in his mid-eighties by Big Sis when his caravan was falling apart and he’d had to sell off a lot of his cows. He too refused to eat in the dining room because of all the other ‘guests’ whom he declared ga-ga. At 84 he still had a ten-year breeding plan for some cattle he had adjisted somewhere, was running a local radio program about old cars, was drooling dreaming about buying a vintage Bentley (no chance) and had a new woman friend and admirer who stayed beside him at the last and attended his funeral that same year when his heart gave out. His only friend in the world. The rest of us were family.

Struth
July 2, 2022 12:06 pm

It’s catallaxy PGR…..Parental Guidance recommended.

Certainly not for mature audiences.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 2, 2022 12:08 pm

Did I mention we invented a stick……….

For shame! You didn’t mention we discovered you can make pharting noises, blowing down a hollow log?

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 2, 2022 12:09 pm

The silly old fossil [Paul Kelly] has been a Liars spruiker at the Paywallian since the Whitlam years.

If Rupe hadn’t bought Myspace he could probably afford to make him redundant.

Mater
July 2, 2022 12:09 pm

So why did you vote for them this time?

Lame come back.
I’ll allow you another go. A disability allowance for those suffering inter-generational guilt.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 2, 2022 12:09 pm
132andBush
132andBush
July 2, 2022 12:15 pm

Ed Case says:
July 2, 2022 at 11:38 am
Having experienced that, he advised me to never borrow beyond your means to repay in the event of high interest rates.
huh?

Consequently, I’m now genetically programmed not to loan money, or vote for Labor.

So why did you vote for them this time?

Wow!
Another zinger!

Go Ed, you’ve got him on the ropes.

Struth
July 2, 2022 12:17 pm

What is it with the word tick, as in tick tick tick……..is it the new jooooooooo?
Do you have words that are verboten?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 2, 2022 12:18 pm

I am in my flannie nightie and fluffy dressing gown while Hairy is just surfacing (naked as usual) from the flannie sheets in which we delight together at the enfolding warmth. It is winter in Sydney in what commenters to Greer call the ‘winter’ of her age. Feels OK to me.

I am now braving going out to our front gate to pick up our soggy saturated plastic-wrapped hard copy of the Oz. Not quite to the Post Office, but at least I am making an effort at being a decrepit old lady out and about in public view in her nightwear. One has to keep up standards as one ages. 🙂

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 2, 2022 12:20 pm

What is it with the word tick

Obviously the word gets out on stage eventually.
But initially it’s just a … nervous tick.

Struth
July 2, 2022 12:21 pm

You’d need to have rocks in your head to let the Census know you identified as Christian.
Strange as it may seem, it appears that many Christians don’t have rocks in their head.

Why would you have rocks in your head to declare yourself as Christian?

Struth
July 2, 2022 12:22 pm

tick tick tick……try one last time.

P
P
July 2, 2022 12:23 pm

Germaine Greer in conversation with Rick Morton
Saturday 13 August 2022

Almost 90% of the direct care workforce in residential aged care are women, as are 70% of people who live in residential aged care. Germaine Greer speaks frankly about why aged care remains one of the most pressing feminist issues today.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 2, 2022 12:23 pm

I’m guessing you’re not a Christian, right?

Struth
July 2, 2022 12:24 pm

It seems if you have a mental breakdown, you can believe surviving for twlelve months after a death jab sees you in the clear.
What sort of mental degeneration would have to occur for that to be the case?

TICK, TICK, TICK……….

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 2, 2022 12:24 pm

Dogmeat lives!

America’s nuclear waste chief: Two MIT degrees, ‘genderfluid,’ role-plays dogs (30 Jun, via Instapundit)

Dot will get the reference…

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 2, 2022 12:24 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
July 2, 2022 at 12:08 pm
Did I mention we invented a stick……….

For shame! You didn’t mention we discovered you can make pharting noises, blowing down a hollow log?

I can do that without using a hollow log.

Struth
July 2, 2022 12:25 pm

I’m guessing you’re not a Christian, right?

I am.
Not a Christian like Notafan.
An actual Christian.

So answer my question Ed job…….what is wrong with declaring your Christianity?

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 2, 2022 12:26 pm

Psays:
July 2, 2022 at 12:23 pm
Germaine Greer in conversation with Rick Morton
Saturday 13 August 2022

Almost 90% of the direct care workforce in residential aged care are women, as are 70% of people who live in residential aged care. Germaine Greer speaks frankly about why aged care remains one of the most pressing feminist issues today.

It doesn’t seem to occur to Germs PhD that it could be their “male privilege” that leads to such low numbers of men in residential aged care?

calli
calli
July 2, 2022 12:27 pm

Am having problems commenting. Is anyone else experiencing the same?

No. Apart from an occasional “error” message – maybe two in a month.

I take it as a SIGN. I delete the comment. Why tempt fate? 🙂

Struth
July 2, 2022 12:27 pm

A flanny nightie and flanny sheets…you’ll electrocute yourself …..

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 2, 2022 12:28 pm

Dover, Vicki has asked for my email. Can you please get it to her? Muchos thanks.

Vicki, we have changed the BBQ date from Sat 9th to Sun 10th to suit Jupes requirements better.
I hope this makes it easier for you too, following the Show you have to attend on the 8th.
Email me and I will get you the details.

bespoke
bespoke
July 2, 2022 12:29 pm

Hi Charlie

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 2, 2022 12:29 pm

A flanny nightie and flanny sheets…you’ll electrocute yourself …..

Yay, Struth. We can still make sparks fly!!

Struth
July 2, 2022 12:30 pm

You bring the potato salad, Vicki.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 2, 2022 12:31 pm

Re commenting problems, check that you name in the box hasn’t adopted another letter from somewhere. This can send your comment back to the aether or put you in moderation pronto.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
July 2, 2022 12:31 pm

The indigenous community have a number of technology breakthroughs during their 100,000 year reign over Australia. Behold..
The paperweight, well Before paper was invented
The hand launched missile.
The pillow. Comes in ultra firm only.
All the above are to the uneducated the same but different sizes.
The pillow detectors (aka toes)
The precursor to the Dustbuster, the dust maker
The stick
Smoke.
I could go on…

I do find it strange that living in Australia for that period of time, they did not invent the Akubra.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 2, 2022 12:32 pm

Or lost one, like my ‘you’ for ‘your’ above.

Struth
July 2, 2022 12:33 pm

Even Monkeys can peel a banana.

calli
calli
July 2, 2022 12:35 pm

On aged care…I am now at the pointy end as far as my parents are concerned.

Taking Mum shopping, convincing her to use a stick (not on me), making sure everything is okay at home, bills paid, medications ready. The Beloved and I have got it all running like a well oiled machine. For now.

Trouble is I can’t boss my parents around. The kids were a doddle.

Zipster
Zipster
July 2, 2022 12:36 pm
Cassie of Sydney
July 2, 2022 12:38 pm

This is the message I get…

Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

John Sheldrick
July 2, 2022 12:39 pm

callisays:
July 2, 2022 at 12:27 pm
Am having problems commenting. Is anyone else experiencing the same?

No. Apart from an occasional “error” message – maybe two in a month.

I take it as a SIGN. I delete the comment. Why tempt fate? ?

It seems to happen every now and then. It happened to me this morning. Maybe a gremlin like Head Case on the line somewhere.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 2, 2022 12:40 pm

Fair Shake – They did invent the best way to tame the fire-breathing dragons of the plant world, known as eucalypts. Which is about the only thing we don’t give them credit for, nor practice.

Speaking of homicidal plants I liked these ones:

Carnivorous plant discovered that attacks prey underground (1 Jul)

For the first time a carnivorous plant that traps and eats its prey underground has been discovered by scientists. The plant sprouts contraptions that trap prey underground, including worms, beetles and larvae, CNN reported. The pitcher plant was discovered on the Indonesian island of Borneo in the province of North Kalimantan.

I propose we call them ‘mole triffids’.

Cassie of Sydney
July 2, 2022 12:40 pm

Does anyone recall if Nilligan’s book was pulled during the Pell trials?

I don’t.

calli
calli
July 2, 2022 12:40 pm

Here’s a piece of wisdom from the cache of Liberty quotes:

In order to discover the character of people we have only to observe what they love.

— Augustine

Insightful for a man who wanted the full treasure trove of spiritual gifts…but not just yet. 🙂

calli
calli
July 2, 2022 12:42 pm

That’s the one, Cassie.

If you do a lengthy comment, save it before you press the button. That way we don’t lose your pearls of wisdom when the thing crashes. It may be that there are a heap of chatterboxes trying to comment at once, and the server can’t cope.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 2, 2022 12:48 pm

Regarding Spud’s PhD thesis, I have a theory of my own.
He claimed that it was DVA funded.
I’ll bet a condition of funding is that the Magnum Opus be made publicly available. This is ostensibly to assist others in the 101st Tentslayers alumni with their PTSD, some of whom will only develop PTSD from reading Spud’s tortured prose.
I suspect it has gone on the backburner for fear of the scrutiny it may draw once published.

P
P
July 2, 2022 12:49 pm

Does anyone recall if Nilligan’s book was pulled during the Pell trials?

In Victoria but not the other states, after he was charged.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 2, 2022 12:52 pm

Thanks, Dover. All is well. Vicki’s email was stuck in my Spam folder, as numerous others have been.

I have emailed her back now. I hope she gets it given the problems emails have suddenly developed.

Let me know here if not, Vicki.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 2, 2022 1:01 pm

Struthsays:

July 2, 2022 at 11:29 am

Pathetic….you do the deluded no favours blocking me Dover.

Err, if you can post something you probably aren’t blocked.
But, you know, if you read Daily Exposé and Gonzalo Peso all day I guess it is easy to see a yuuuge censorship conspiracy in a simple screen refresh delay, or the occasional comment disappearing into the ether (or aether as some call it).
Have you paid your bill?

Winston Smith
July 2, 2022 1:04 pm

sfw:
“I know that JC and some others here think that I’m an economic and fiscal idiot, because I question the creation of money by the Reserve banks and to whom they distribute it.”

Only people who are in on the scam state someone who questions the scam is an idiot.

*
I suspect that saying is applicable here as well.
Another one that may have some application:

If an expert cannot explain something to the man of average intelligence, suspect bullshit.

**
* and ** from the Book of Winston – Selected Quotes.

JC
JC
July 2, 2022 1:05 pm

feelthebern says:
July 2, 2022 at 8:47 am

I’m really looking forward to the DNC presidential circus for 2024.
I love the idea of Hillary having a crack.
And if Newsom runs, it will be a west coast/east coast DNC fight all over again like 2008.
Even though BHO also had the Chicago machine, he was sucking down the Silicon Valley money while poor old Hillary had to settle for Wall Street.

As I think you’ve said, Bern, it’s going to be Newsom. Funny old world, Don Jr’s leg-over is Newsom’s ex

John Sheldrick
July 2, 2022 1:09 pm

Today, the fantasy of Nazi UFOs has grown into an entire mythology in books, on TV and online. This book features an appealing cast of con-men and spies, complete madmen, real-life Nazis and completely made-up ones, operating right across the globe from South America to wartime Europe and Japan.

Iron Sky made for a good Fantasy film with Nazi flying saucers on the Moon though –

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1034314/

Julia Dietze was very ‘hot’ too.

Winston Smith
July 2, 2022 1:10 pm

Bruce O’Newk:

Words to live by! I’ve been amused by pollsters in the US who lately are trying to boost De Santis over Trump by finding the former is “neck and neck” with the latter in the primary polls.
Then another poll comes along the same week with Trump having four times the number that De Santis has. I tend to believe the latter ones when they get reported, given the way the MSM are these days.

The media will always boost the Republican they think the Left can win against. Been doing it for years.

JC
JC
July 2, 2022 1:14 pm

Turtlehead, fuck off, you waste of space.

Winston Smith
July 2, 2022 1:15 pm

Feelthebern:

The police are not your friend.

I would like to see the annual list of the most and least respected professions these days.
The top performers would be ****** and the used car salesmen would be in the top ten.

John Sheldrick
July 2, 2022 1:17 pm

With all of these ‘Ruinaballs’, “It’s only a Rort if you are not in on it.”

This Terry McCrann Newspaper article is from September 2014 and is still very true today. Just follow the money. RET spells ‘Rort’.

https://stopthesethings.com/2014/09/11/terry-mccrann-the-mandatory-ret-its-only-a-rort-when-youre-not-in-on-it/

Stop these things.

bespoke
bespoke
July 2, 2022 1:18 pm
John Sheldrick
July 2, 2022 1:21 pm

Few realise that Hitler and his gang of monstrous thugs were the first serious wind power advocates. The Nazis destroyed tens of millions of lives and are synonymous with industrialised mass murder, but their role as champions of industrial wind power is less well-known. As Rupert Darwall put it: German obsession with renewable energy originates […]

https://stopthesethings.com/category/australia/

Stop these things.

Old bloke
Old bloke
July 2, 2022 1:21 pm

Bruce of Newcastle says:
July 2, 2022 at 7:27 am

Dot – The Shetlands and Hebrides were Norwegian for several centuries, before the Scottish kingdom managed to get control. Norway and Sweden were also a single entity for a long time until the bust up of the Union of Kalmar.

Bruce, the Norwegians at one time controlled the Irish Sea and ruled over the Hebrides, Isle of Man, Anglesey and the south-east Irish harbour towns (Cork, Waterford and Wexford). Their Norse rulers were the ancient Kings of Dublin.

The break-up of Norway and Sweden occurred much earlier than the dissolution of the Union of Kalmar. The Scylfing Dynasty ruled both Sweden and Norway from Uppsala in Sweden but they were defeated by the Geats (Goths) and were driven out to Norway during the reign of Ottar Vendelcrow.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 2, 2022 1:22 pm

Psays:

July 2, 2022 at 12:49 pm

Does anyone recall if Nilligan’s book was pulled during the Pell trials?

In Victoria but not the other states, after he was charged.

Nope.
It was still on sale during that whole period.
The publisher might have ceased distribution, but it was not cleared from the shelves in bookstores, along with Morris-Marr’s tome and others.
Collins booksellers suddenly discovered the principle of “post sub-judice” when Winschuttle’s book was published.
I enquired about it post HC appeal and was told it was “withheld for legal reasons” and wasn’t available.
When I pointed out that all appeals were done and dusted and other books on the same subject were available (Nilligan et al) I got a shrug and a blank stare.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 2, 2022 1:23 pm

JCsays:

July 2, 2022 at 1:14 pm

Turtlehead, fuck off, you waste of space.

Who is Turtlehead?
Are you talkin’ to me?

Jorge
Jorge
July 2, 2022 1:24 pm

……… after having decried the value of marriage (still decrying it btw) for most of her life.

Is she ? I don’t know but I remember reading of her marriage to some bloke in the UK more or less spur of the moment and lightly undertaken as a good frolic.

They went separate ways soon after but he fell on hard times later in life and she provided shelter at her place in Cambridge.

Not what you’d expect to see if you think she’s a hardened ideologue.

Winston Smith
July 2, 2022 1:25 pm

Bruce O’Newk:

If I were her I’d stay far far away from this mess. (Michelle running for President)

No. A fake like her/him with a personality shallower than the oil film on a wet garage floor would fit in so well.

will
will
July 2, 2022 1:28 pm

sfwsays: July 2, 2022 at 8:30 am
Well here’s another example, the US Fed is paying $250 mill a day in interest payments to banks that have reserves at the Fed, these reserves are essentially money that was created by the Fed and given to banks, who then put them back in the Fed. Seems dodgy and corrupt to me, but what would I know?

Goes back a long way before governments (especially the US one) decided they could print unlimited amounts of money without consequence or conscience.

As banks lend out most of their deposits, the central banks required them to hand over a minimum amount of liquid assets to be held by the central bank to cover any bank runs or larger then normal withdrawals, to prevent any bank closures due to running out of cash.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 2, 2022 1:29 pm

Haha.

Elon Musk@elonmusk
Feeling … perhaps … a little bored?
11:39 AM · Jul 2, 2022

Dunno what he’s been up to but here’s the background:

Elon Musk is still ‘missing’- fears soar as SpaceX CEO not seen for 10 days on Twitter (1 Jul)

He’s fun!

Diogenes
Diogenes
July 2, 2022 1:30 pm

The Nazis destroyed tens of millions of lives and are synonymous with industrialised mass murder, but their role as champions of industrial wind power is less well-known.

That’s because they had no oil – and due to their mismanagement of both the mines and the Reichsbahn a massive shortage of coal.

John Sheldrick
July 2, 2022 1:30 pm

Zipstersays:
July 2, 2022 at 12:36 pm
Joe’s Impression of Kamala Harris | Joe Rogan Experience

That is a great Impression of Kamala Harris there. Very funny.

will
will
July 2, 2022 1:31 pm

I would like to see the annual list of the most and least respected professions these days.
The top performers would be ****** and the used car salesmen would be in the top ten.

I have never know why. I EXPECT to be lied and cheated by used car salesmen. Others not so much.

Zipster
Zipster
July 2, 2022 1:32 pm
Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 2, 2022 1:35 pm

re: “The Future of Money | Huw Van Steenis”
IMO the key points are at 0:34 and 6:15 https://youtu.be/zWMFULbV0ZM?t=415

You can’t have a run on the banks when there is no other bank you can take your CBDC into. Of course central-bank-guy thinks that’s a feature, not the bug it so clearly is.

He doesn’t want the central banks to go retail and hold accounts for each person… yet that is an outcome similar to letting the private sector use a CBDC as a ‘platform for innovation’. You can dress up the CBDC in whatever social/industry demographic niche retail mobile app you want, but a transaction within a private company would translate to an adjustment in a wholesale market transaction eventually. It’s just the company/bank transacting CBDC on your behalf. Isn’t the danger in the system outcome rather than who makes it happen? The focus on wholesale is just an attempt to avoid blame for what happens at retail.

Tomer Ravid, crypto entrepreneur and CEO at BloxTax, says:

“Blockchain technology is very, very safe, and works based on consensus. Everything is transparent, some would argue too transparent. If I know your wallet, I can see every transaction and amount you have. By design, CBDCs will be permission-based blockchains, which means the central bank has even more control of what is happening,” he says.

My guess is that the outcomes are still:
* the central bank is still Too Big To Fail, and
* the purchasing power of retail savings are still affected by inflation of the digital money wholesale supply by the central bank, and
* the purchasing power of savings can be zeroed by the retail bank declining any transactions for any reason, which is not possible with trading in cash.
* the central bank may require reporting of retail transactions to substantiate wholesale transactions (perhaps by attaching them to blocks on a wholesale blockchain system) meaning it is total spending surveillance, not just major transaction surveillance.
* the central bank may even have the ability to block the transaction if Ravid’s statement is true of the particular CBDC in use.

Questions, comments, stinging criticisms?

Franx
Franx
July 2, 2022 1:36 pm

OK, Lizzie, as long as there is no confusion and is understood that the monks of the desert were not iconoclasts nor were involved in the sacking Alexandria. Quite the reverse.

JC
JC
July 2, 2022 1:38 pm

Will

Western central banks have not printed “unlimited” amounts of money. That’s just wrong. They explained what their actions were and that’s the reason we haven’t experienced hyperinflation. If markets believed they were going to print forever we’d be looking at an inflation rate of 10% a week.

I don’t have time, but I’ll explain my argument later.

SWF.
Just a quick point. Other than capital, all other money held by banks is either loaned to them or held as deposits.
The interest on bank reserves is a statuary requirement for the Fed and the member banks. If they’re receiving the interest payments, they are also paying out.

Stop reading Zero Hedge. It rot’s your brain.

Zipster
Zipster
July 2, 2022 1:39 pm

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04:40 Hong Kong’s Situation Explained
06:31 World’s Largest Navy Drill Underway in Hawaii
08:14 Top Taiwan Diplomat Requests Support in Case of War
11:41 Report Exposes Alleged Beijing #Propaganda Tactics
13:08 Bill Aims to Protect U.S. Agriculture, Farms
14:11 Shanghai Disney Reopens After 3-Month Closure

Eyrie
Eyrie
July 2, 2022 1:41 pm

BoN, I’ll bet Elon is at Boca Chica getting Starship/Superheavy ready to fly on the orbital launch.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 2, 2022 1:42 pm

Should I get out of bed & go to the post office to pick up a package?
First world problems.

I ordered some gloves and a challis tie from the US a couple of weeks ago. They sent them by FedEx and I got them 8 days later.

First world solution.

I ordered from the same people about 2 years ago and it took over a month because Oz Post was included in the process. You know, a few days to get it to Mascot, where Oz Post got their clutches on it. Then the package was shunted to Victoria where it flitted from one place to another like a teenage socialite in the high season before it reluctantly presented itself at my door.

Tom
Tom
July 2, 2022 1:53 pm

The Seven Network is breaking new ground this winter, hiring two young mums to host its Saturday horse racing coverage on the main channel while Bruce McAveney and Jason Richardson are on holiday.

Lizzie Jelfs is an accomplished English horsewoman who has worked as a foreman for some of Australia’s biggest stables and freelances as a horse picker for trainers and owners at the big horse sales.

Her TV partner, Emma Freedman, has forgotten more about horse racing than most people know. As the daughter of champion trainer Lee Freedman, who coached Makybe Diva to three Melbourne Cups and won dozens of other Group 1s, Emma grew up as a tyke around the equestrian talent in a thoroughbred stable, absorbing not only the knowledge of the three Freedman brothers (FBI, as they were known – Freedman Brothers Incorporated), but also their sense of humour.

Emma, who has just popped out two toddlers, calls Lizzie “Darl” and is always on the hunt for joke.
Look out for them as stars of the Melbourne spring carnival and the next autumn carnival in Sydney.

PS: The Rosehill meeting has just been abandoned because of the deluge bucketing Sydney.

bespoke
bespoke
July 2, 2022 1:54 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
July 2, 2022 at 1:23 pm
JCsays:

July 2, 2022 at 1:14 pm

Turtlehead, fuck off, you waste of space.

Who is Turtlehead?
Are you talkin’ to me?

Yes

bespoke
bespoke
July 2, 2022 1:58 pm

There’s talk of Elon making mobiles

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 2, 2022 2:06 pm

PS: The Rosehill meeting has just been abandoned because of the deluge bucketing Sydney.

Just like the gypsy woman* said.

*gypsy woman being the BoM.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 2, 2022 2:08 pm

ML

Of late I have noticed AP aren’t updating their parcel tracker much as they used to. Pretty well much is received at then nothing till the morning it is to be delivered where the subsequent stops like are included. Mind you times are marked improvement but why have a tracker if it isn’t being honestly used.

John Sheldrick
July 2, 2022 2:13 pm

Nothing from polls can be believed at all now, at least not without serious digging into the raw data. Everything is slanted for political advantage.

The ‘Fruit Loops’ who run these Polls invariably come back with the wrong results. I have a feeling that people give an answer and then maybe change their minds on Polling Day. There are a lot of ‘undecideds’ out there.

I remember being targeted by a camera crew and a fellow with a big ‘mic’ in his paws many years ago while strolling through Sydney Pitt Street Plaza. The fellow with the big ‘mic’ barreled me up and said that I had the opportunity to ask a ‘Pollie’ a question on camera. I said. “No thank you”. He appeared to be nonplussed as to why I didn’t want to take up this opportunity. I then said, “Well, there is no point.” He then said, “What do you mean?” I then said, “They never answer the ‘far king’ question – that’s why” and then proceeded to walk off on my merry way while his jaw hit the ground ‘thud’.

Priceless.

MatrixTransform
July 2, 2022 2:14 pm

Am having problems commenting. Is anyone else experiencing the same?

sometimes I’m laughing so hard at my own jokes that I can’t even press ‘post comment’

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 2, 2022 2:17 pm

ML at 1:42.
I ordered a small appliance battery on 7th June from Sydney to be delivered via Australia Post.
It is rattling around Melbourne mail centres and they expect to deliver it by 7th July.
One month.
FMD.
Cobb and Co was quicker.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
July 2, 2022 2:17 pm

Rumour in todays West Aussie print is Elon is runnin’ around WA.

John Sheldrick
July 2, 2022 2:17 pm

feelthebernsays:
July 2, 2022 at 2:06 pm
PS: The Rosehill meeting has just been abandoned because of the deluge bucketing Sydney.

Just like the gypsy woman* said.

*gypsy woman being the BoM.

BOM = Bunch Of Muppets. A million dollars a day wee’d up the wall. Complete waste of Taxpayer money.

Zipster
Zipster
July 2, 2022 2:18 pm

US Hypersonic Missile Fails in Test in Fresh Setback for Program
Pentagon says problem took place following missile ignition
China, Russia and North Korea pressing ahead with hypersonics

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 2, 2022 2:20 pm

Re problems commenting – internal server error message- let me know if you get this while using VPN.

Never get it, VPNing from Oz server today. Rarely I get a DNS failure for the New Cat but the automatic re-search usually works.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 2, 2022 2:21 pm

Rockdoctorsays:

July 2, 2022 at 2:08 pm

ML

Of late I have noticed AP aren’t updating their parcel tracker much as they used to.

Yes.
I don’t get much delivered but I did notice that. They used to show full history of movements, but now I only see last movement and expected delivery.
I suspect the full history became too embarrassing.

John Sheldrick
July 2, 2022 2:22 pm

Who is Turtlehead?
Are you talkin’ to me?

Yes

I always assumed that ‘Turtle Head’ was Chris Bowen.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 2, 2022 2:23 pm

Rumour in todays West Aussie print is Elon is runnin’ around WA.

He’s in Italy.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk

I’m assuming Pope Francis isn’t in Perth…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 2, 2022 2:23 pm

bespokesays:

July 2, 2022 at 1:58 pm

There’s talk of Elon making mobiles

PLUS

Perth Tradersays:

July 2, 2022 at 2:17 pm

Rumour in todays West Aussie print is Elon is runnin’ around WA.

Looking for battery raw materials?

will
will
July 2, 2022 2:25 pm

Western central banks have not printed “unlimited” amounts of money

my bad, it must have been limited by arithmetic, rather then geometric, progression

Real Deal
Real Deal
July 2, 2022 2:26 pm

Some discussion up thread and old thread about computer technology. My introduction to the computer age was in 1975 as an 11y/o when my mother purchased a green LED Sharp Elsimate 8 digit calculator. One of the first uses of said calculator in 5th class was to punch out 8 numbers, turn the calculator upside down and spell out “big boobs” in numbers.

Not understanding in late 1975 that using a calculator for sexual amusement and giggles meant that we were early creators of rudimentary computer pornography.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 2, 2022 2:26 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:

July 2, 2022 at 2:23 pm

Rumour in todays West Aussie print is Elon is runnin’ around WA.

He’s in Italy.

The link is two hours old and says “Honored to meet Pontifex yesterday.”
He doesn’t need Spacex to be in Rome yesterday and Perth today.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
July 2, 2022 2:27 pm

News Flash..’ ya cant even trust the local papers’…..

John Sheldrick
July 2, 2022 2:30 pm

Biden Reality

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/humor/biden-reality/

Ha, ha, ha. Funny as……………..

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 2, 2022 2:31 pm

Wow!
Another zinger!

Groogs is Peanut Head’s Zingers-r-Us No 1 customer.

MatrixTransform
July 2, 2022 2:35 pm

Just build the nukes, then everything else is surplus to requirements.

ah yes indeed … that’s the real opposition

the others are redundant after micro-nukes are installed

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
July 2, 2022 2:35 pm

Herd on the Terrace: Could Elon Musk be making a flying visit to WA to bulk up on battery metals for Tesla?
The West Australian
Fri, 1 July 2022 1:57PM

Is Elon a Catholic….is the Pope Catholic?

Hugh
Hugh
July 2, 2022 2:36 pm

GreyRanga:
July 2, 2022 at 11:45 am

Why hasn’t this been on the news? Obviously not a conservative.

The first comment below the story:

The 14 yr old has passed away after being high fived to death by his friends

Indeed, when I was fourteen years old, drunk or sober, I’d have been up that like a rat up a rhododendron.

will
will
July 2, 2022 2:36 pm

I ordered a small appliance battery on 7th June from Sydney to be delivered via Australia Post.
It is rattling around Melbourne mail centres and they expect to deliver it by 7th July.

Leave AssiePost alone. They’re busy working on their “sustainability” and “inclusion” not forgetting their “Corporate Responsibility Plan” underpinned by the “UN Sustainable Development Goals”.

JC
JC
July 2, 2022 2:37 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
July 2, 2022 at 1:23 pm

JCsays:

July 2, 2022 at 1:14 pm

Turtlehead, fuck off, you waste of space.

Who is Turtlehead?
Are you talkin’ to me?

Ha, why assume it’s you? It refers to the Mr. Scenariolist, Winston. He once linked a pic of himself for some stupid reason and I swear, he reminded me of a Caribbean turtle. Hence Turtlehead.

The idiot has a heart condition and I’ve literally begged/ pleaded with him to not speak to me as I don’t want to engage and if I do I run the risk of stressing him out. I’d then be accused of causing his demise.
He either posts hit pieces about me early morning or his wife does like she used to whenever I was mean to him.

Hugh
Hugh
July 2, 2022 2:41 pm

Does anyone know what Cossack got thrown in the slammer for? I am guessing it was for more than just making a nuisance of himself.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 2, 2022 2:41 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
July 2, 2022 2:42 pm

If I were her I’d stay far far away from this mess. (Michelle running for President)
No. A fake like her/him with a personality shallower than the oil film on a wet garage floor would fit in so well.

A pair of grifters like the Magic Negro and the Wookie wouldn’t be able to resist the lure of another gouge at the trough.

JC
JC
July 2, 2022 2:44 pm
Ed Case
Ed Case
July 2, 2022 2:45 pm

Does anyone know what Cossack got thrown in the slammer for? I am guessing it was for more than just making a nuisance of himself.

His handlers trying to give him a bitta street cred?

JC
JC
July 2, 2022 2:46 pm

Jeez, that would be a real economic lockdown

JPMORGAN SEES ‘STRATOSPHERIC’ $380 OIL ON WORST-CASE RUSSIAN CUT: BBG

JC
JC
July 2, 2022 2:47 pm

That would be like over 500 bucks to fill the tank.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 2, 2022 2:49 pm

I’m guessing you’re not a Christian, right?

I am.
Not a Christian like Notafan.
An actual Christian.

So answer my question Ed job…….what is wrong with declaring your Christianity?

Where did I say there was anything wrong, Sancho?
You going the Gaslight again?

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 2, 2022 2:49 pm

I’m assuming Pope Francis isn’t in Perth…

He might be seeking absolution from Sneakers. Or blessing the codpiece.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 2, 2022 2:51 pm

That would be like over 500 bucks to fill the tank.

There’ll be armed guards at the bowsers before that happens.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 2, 2022 2:53 pm

From the Daily Mail. Oops seems somebody f’d up as his newly built boat can’t get out

“Plans to dismantle an iconic Netherlands bridge for billionaire Jeff Bezos’ super yacht (2nd biggest in world, US500m) are halted following public outcry from local residents.”

Struth
July 2, 2022 2:54 pm

Where did I say there was anything wrong, Sancho?
You going the Gaslight again?

That’s low.
Ok, you want to really insult people…….
Don’t wait until people have forgotten the point you were making and then come back to it.
You declared it would be ill conceived to declare your Christianity with the Australian government come sensus time, and I asked you why.

Felcher.

Woolfe
Woolfe
July 2, 2022 2:54 pm
incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
July 2, 2022 2:55 pm

Just build the nukes…

Can they be portable enough to strap one to Dan?

Hugh
Hugh
July 2, 2022 2:56 pm

Thanks Woolfe.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 2, 2022 2:57 pm

Saw Roger Stone on Patrick Beth David podcast with a former CIA guy.

Stone said he thought Michelle Obama would be best chance for Dems in 2024. Was a bit dismissive of De Santis and obviously preferred Trump.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 2, 2022 2:58 pm

Albo is getting slaughtered on Twatter. Read the comments, ignore the lovebot upticks.
Any advisor not also thinking that they’re on an unstoppable honeymoon should take the hint, haul him back, cancel the passport and tell him to do nothing but three sausage sizzles every weekend from now until the 2025 poll.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 2, 2022 2:59 pm

Felcher.

Classic Sancho.

John Sheldrick
July 2, 2022 3:02 pm

sensus time

‘sensus time’ makes no sensus to me. Maybe you mean Census time?

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 2, 2022 3:04 pm

Cossack named a sex offender

Is that right?
I see Avi Yemini has had Domestic Violence issues as well?

Where does the [non legit] Right find these guys?

John Sheldrick
July 2, 2022 3:11 pm

JCsays:
July 2, 2022 at 2:46 pm
Jeez, that would be a real economic lockdown

JPMORGAN SEES ‘STRATOSPHERIC’ $380 OIL ON WORST-CASE RUSSIAN CUT: BBG

Martin Armstrong’s Socrates has predicted the Oil price to be over $US 200 a barrel during 2023. Not long to go now. Glad that I no longer need to own a motor vehicle. My NSW Gold Opal Card is great value at a maximum of $A 2.50 a day when I use it.

rickw
rickw
July 2, 2022 3:11 pm

I always assumed that ‘Turtle Head’ was Chris Bowen.

I knew a painter who could have been Chris Bowen’s twin, his nickname was The Turtle.

rosie
rosie
July 2, 2022 3:13 pm

Got the impression Greer tried aged care for the novelty of the experience.
Not because she lacked financial resources for anything else.

Megan
Megan
July 2, 2022 3:15 pm

Cossack named a sex offender

Is that right?

Semantic ambiguity. Cossack is not the sex offender – he publicly named someone else as such. Which is so naughty these days it’s jail worthy.

Megan
Megan
July 2, 2022 3:16 pm

Which is so naughty these days it’s jail worthy

Also known as pulling a Derryn Hinch.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 2, 2022 3:17 pm

Obama had a built a narrative around himself. Created the mythology that he started out serving the community (no one had ever heard community organiser before, and didn’t realise it was actually a political gig).

Almost as humble a beginning as the log cabin.

I don’t know if they can start fresh with the dour scowling dinotherium. They tried to soften and soften her image when Barack spent 8 years marvelling at himself in mirrors in the White House, but I don’t think any of it really took hold.

During the Obama years I think conservatives were dispirited. There was not much from the Bush years to be too ebullient about and the left seemed to rule everything.

Trump has given the right a confidence and energy it did not possess when Obama came on the scene, and the MSM has become part of what we see. It used to be that the MSM was like your eye – it showed you the world but you did not see it showing you. Now we know the eye is distorting the world and to make allowances for what it shows us.

I don’t think Barack would get the free ride he had in 2007 any more. And the bilious behemoth is no Barack.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Cossack is not the sex offender – he publicly named someone else as such. Which is so naughty these days it’s jail worthy.

By that yardstick Lisa Wilkinson is in real trouble.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 2, 2022 3:19 pm

I thought Cossack’s gig was harassing female Liberal politicians and their staff?
Is he turning into the Derryn Hinch of Youtube?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 2, 2022 3:19 pm

Soften and soften sweeten.

shatterzzz
July 2, 2022 3:21 pm

Albo is getting slaughtered on Twatter. Read the comments, ignore the lovebot upticks.

Macaroon’s got the “hots” for the “druggie’s moll” so he’s cozying up to AnAl to put in a good word for him .. LOL!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 2, 2022 3:23 pm

Ha, why assume it’s you? It refers to the Mr. Scenariolist, Winston. He once linked a pic of himself for some stupid reason and I swear, he reminded me of a Caribbean turtle. Hence Turtlehead.

Oh, OK.
It’s just that I have a long scaly neck and, some say, an angular head.
I do worry that people call me turtle behind my back.
But I have never posted a photo of myself.

shatterzzz
July 2, 2022 3:23 pm

Any advisor not also thinking that they’re on an unstoppable honeymoon should take the hint
If I were AnAl I’d be planning lotza O/S travel for when the fuel tax reverts to normal .. LOL!

Rabz
July 2, 2022 3:25 pm

Hey, Dover – check your email, Squire.

P.S. The weather here in Sydneystan is bloody awful. 3:25pm and it’s as dark as 5:30pm.

Thanks, Gerbil Worming!

Megan
Megan
July 2, 2022 3:25 pm

The water gods are exceedingly displeased at Villa Megan. We have been taught a lesson by the washing machine coin trap/ drain filter which refuses to give up the ill gotten gains left in pockets by the, ahem, XY chromosome holder in residence. And one additional XY visitor who regularly uses the parental laundry in preference to the public versions he is compelled to pay for.
Half a dozen sodden towels later I have been forced into calling the ‘technician’ at $154.00 for 20 minutes and who cannot come until Wednesday afternoon.
I hate resistentialism. Especially when it creates unpleasant mopping up operations and costs me money.

Rabz
July 2, 2022 3:27 pm

Albo is getting slaughtered on Twatter.

Excellent.

Megan
Megan
July 2, 2022 3:28 pm

By that yardstick Lisa Wilkinson is in real trouble.

You would think. But hey, opposite sides of the political spectrum, so no.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 2, 2022 3:28 pm

Macaroon’s got the “hots” for the “druggie’s moll” so he’s cozying up to AnAl to put in a good word for him .. LOL!
Huh?
Macron is a Flamer.
Haven’t you noticed?

shatterzzz
July 2, 2022 3:33 pm

PS: The Rosehill meeting has just been abandoned because of the deluge bucketing Sydney.

Passed some “fitba” fields out Penrith way, around 1-ish, and several kids teams were playing soccer in the rain .. lotza mums & dads wiv umbrellas watching ..

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 2, 2022 3:34 pm

There’s talk of Elon making mobiles

☑ African-American billionaire
☐ With a chip on his shoulder.
☑ Developed a neural implant.
☑ Runs a global satellite network.
☑ Offers cheap phones to the planet.

Kingsmen was a blueprint and a warning.
Please, nobody annoy Elon.

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 2, 2022 3:39 pm

I would like to see the annual list of the most and least respected professions these days.

1) Epidemiologists
2) Chief Health Officers
3) Doctors in general
4) Politicians
5) Police Officers
6) Mainstream media of any stripe
7) Statisticians
8) ‘Klimate scientists’
9) Economists
10) RBA Governors

calli
calli
July 2, 2022 3:39 pm

Got the impression Greer tried aged care for the novelty of the experience.

That wouldn’t surprise me rosie. I can see her playing merry hell in a nursing home to see the reaction. It may well have been a sobering experience too – I hope it was. It may also have prompted her decision to up stakes and live with her brother, because surely she observed the importance of family in the aged and ageing setting.

She’s no fool and one of our more interesting exports.

Winston Smith
July 2, 2022 3:41 pm

Matrix Transform:

ah yes indeed … that’s the real opposition
the others are redundant after micronukes are installed

And that’s the guts of it. Post micronukes, Trillions of dollars are idled awaiting decommissioning and whatever recycling can be done on the bleached bones of the greatest scam the world has ever seen.
Which is why we will not see micronukes in the next twenty years.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
July 2, 2022 3:43 pm

Cossack named a sex offender.

To clear up a potential double entendre:
He allegedly breached court orders by revealing name of an alleged offender

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 2, 2022 3:44 pm

Rabz, what is the radio show tonight?
Are we doing “Maudlin Dirges for Absinthe Friends”.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
July 2, 2022 3:47 pm

Snap Megan. I’m slow this arvo.

Winston Smith
July 2, 2022 3:48 pm

Humphrey B Bear:

He might be seeking absolution from Sneakers. Or blessing the codpiece.

Where are we up to on the construction of said codpiece? Last I heard it was rotating laser beams in the bejeweled buckle holding up the 10kg sapphire centrepiece.

Vagabond
Vagabond
July 2, 2022 3:57 pm

I would like to see the annual list of the most and least respected professions these days.

Human rights lawyers.

Absolute scum, they rank well below child molesters and drug dealers.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 2, 2022 4:02 pm

Ed Casesays:
July 2, 2022 at 3:28 pm
Macaroon’s got the “hots” for the “druggie’s moll” so he’s cozying up to AnAl to put in a good word for him .. LOL!
Huh?
Macron is a Flamer.
Haven’t you noticed?

We haven’t had your level of personal experience with him.

Tom
Tom
July 2, 2022 4:05 pm

Rabz, what is the radio show tonight?

It’s my brother’s birthday, so I bought him a bottle of plonk (Wynn’s Coonawarra Shiraz — IMO, the world’s best red under $50), which I delivered over breakfast at his place.

He showed me a video of the night Elton John got his mentor Leon Russell inducted into the rock hall of fame.

I’ve always thought Russell’s Masquerade is one of the most beautiful pieces of modern music I have heard.

Russell died relatively young in 2016 from too much hard living. R.I.P.

Winston Smith
July 2, 2022 4:05 pm

Bourne1879:

Stone said he thought Michelle Obama would be best chance for Dems in 2024. Was a bit dismissive of De Santis and obviously preferred Trump.

If Michelle looks like getting the nomination from the Democrats, Hillary will scratch her eyes out, before Michelle shoots herself in the head – 12 times.

areff
areff
July 2, 2022 4:09 pm

Megan, a Euro brand washing machine by any chance?

Their drain holes are perfect for the $2 coin, as I discovered when the mechanic had to come.

Two weeks later, another coin stuck in the drain. I’d watched the mechanic so thought I’d do it myself. Put it all back together and found a few odds and ends from the guts left over. The four-month old, $800 machine (purchased from the crooks at Big Mama’s in Hopper’s) was sitting on the nature strip by sundown.

Bought a $50 20-year-old top-loader on eBay and it never missed a trick until Mum died and I inherited her front loader, which is half as good as the old one it replaced.

Old bloke
Old bloke
July 2, 2022 4:10 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
July 2, 2022 at 3:23 pm

Oh, OK.
It’s just that I have a long scaly neck and, some say, an angular head.

Reptile status confirmed.

Indolent
Indolent
July 2, 2022 4:12 pm

A Bill Still documentary from 1996.

The Money Masters – The Rise Of The Bankers

Hammer Head
1 year ago (edited)
0:00:00 0. Prologue
0:01:08 1. Overview
0:11:03 2. The Money Changers
0:12:19 3. Roman Empire
0:13:53 4. The Goldsmiths
0:18:34 5. Talley Sticks
0:23:28 6. The Bank of England
0:27:48 7. The Rise of the Rothschilds
0:33:21 8. The American Revolution
0:39:54 9. The Bank of North America
0:42:25 10. The Constitutional Convention
0:45:16 11. First Bank of the U.S.
0:49:39 12. Napoleon’s Rise to Power
0:52:21 13. Death of the First Bank
0:54:27 14. Waterloo
1:00:35 15. Second Bank of the U.S.
1:01:54 16. Andrew Jackson
1:11:48 17. Abraham Lincoln
1:28:08 18. The Return of the Gold Standard
1:38:50 19. Free Silver
1:43:02 20. J.P. Morgan and the Crash of 1907
1:47:58 21. Jekyll Island
1:59:42 22. Federal Reserve Act of 1913
2:11:19 23. World War I
2:18:39 24. Great Depression
2:32:37 25. World War II
2:45:37 26. I.M.F. (International Monetary Fund)
2:57:29 27. Conclusions
3:06:01 28. Solutions
3:12:53 29. Epilogue
3:27:44 30. Credits

John Sheldrick
July 2, 2022 4:12 pm

I would like to see the annual list of the most and least respected professions these days.

1) Epidemiologists
2) Chief Health Officers
3) Doctors in general
4) Politicians
5) Police Officers
6) Mainstream media of any stripe
7) Statisticians
8) ‘Klimate scientists’
9) Economists
10) RBA Governors

I would like to add ‘Left Wing Nut Jobs’ to the List, however, being a ‘Left Wing Nut Job’ is not a profession.

Megan
Megan
July 2, 2022 4:14 pm

Megan, a Euro brand washing machine by any chance

Swedish. Built by muppet chefs I’m guessing.

calli
calli
July 2, 2022 4:16 pm

Good stuff, Tom. The only rendition of that song I knew was Karen Carpenter from Now and Then.

Fascinating to hear how such different artists interpret a fine piece of music and great lyrics.

Megan
Megan
July 2, 2022 4:17 pm

To be fair, this is a 15 year old machine that has been pretty much trouble free apart from this quirk of holding on to the one and two dollar coins in the manner of Scrooge McDuck.

Just looked at price of replacement. Aieee!

calli
calli
July 2, 2022 4:19 pm

Børk, Børk, Børk! 🙂

rosie
rosie
July 2, 2022 4:19 pm

Watching My Fair Lady.
The first time I’ve watched most of it.
Used to dislike musicals but my two year old granddaughter loves ‘Wouldn’t it be luverly’, I was telling my sons how gorgeous she was singing it and the younger decided he had to watch the movie.

Old bloke
Old bloke
July 2, 2022 4:20 pm

Old School Conservative says:
July 2, 2022 at 3:43 pm

Cossack named a sex offender.

To clear up a potential double entendre:
He allegedly breached court orders by revealing name of an alleged offender

I’ve heard that the “alleged” offender has already been tried and found guilty, so he’s not an “alleged” offender. For some reason, this person isn’t to be named, hence Boikov copped 10 months in the slammer for naming him.

Boikov annoyed too many “important” people, that’s probably why he’s locked up. Similar situation in Melbourne with that Smit girl, looks like she’s in trouble there too with the Law.

Our Lords and Masters must not be questioned and mocked, punishment faces those who do not comply.

Winston Smith
July 2, 2022 4:20 pm
Winston Smith
July 2, 2022 4:25 pm

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/07/former-obama-adviser-biden-sense-things-kind-control-video/?ff_source=Email&ff_medium=the-gateway-pundit&ff_campaign=dailypm&ff_content=2022-07-01

During CNN’s “The Lead with Jake Tapper” on Thursday, host Jake Tapper spoke with CNN senior political commentator and former senior Obama advisor David Axelrod, who echoed President Biden’s critics, admitting that things in the country are “out of control” and that Biden is “not in command.”
The discussion between the two centered on how Biden is handling many of the political setbacks that have befallen his party and other forces threatening the country under his watch, including 40-year-high inflation, especially amid criticism from his own party…

Winston Smith
July 2, 2022 4:28 pm

Massive Migrant Caravan of Thousands of Military-Aged Males March to US Border After Supreme Court Overturns Trump’s ‘Remain in Mexico’ Policy.
Personally I doubt the Democrats have any intention of handing over control even if they lose every seat in the Mid Terms.

Winston Smith
July 2, 2022 4:32 pm

The parents deserve – and are liable for – the death penalty.

Vegan Mother Found Guilty of First-Degree Murder After Toddler Starved to Death on Raw Food Diet

Woolfe
Woolfe
July 2, 2022 4:33 pm

Re Van Gogh
William M Briggs
@FamedCelebrity
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Jul 1
Leave them.

Eventually their bones will bookend the painting, creating an astonishing effect.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 2, 2022 4:36 pm

Where are we up to on the construction of said codpiece? Last I heard it was rotating laser beams in the bejeweled buckle holding up the 10kg sapphire centrepiece

Actually looking for cost savings after iron ore fell below $150 a tonne.

Diogenes
Diogenes
July 2, 2022 4:40 pm

For some reason, this person isn’t to be named, hence Boikov copped 10 months in the slammer for naming him.

This happens if the victim is underage and can be identified if the offender is named, so the victim was probably an underage rellie. And that is where I will stop speculating as I have no knowledge of who the Cossack named, nor the offender, not the victim, nor the offence.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 2, 2022 4:47 pm

Rockdoctorsays:
July 2, 2022 at 10:15 am
I hate MRI’s especially the head. Very claustrophobic experience. I had one after injuring my neck trauma to C4 & 5 vertebrae and another to investigate hearing loss. I never want to go through that again.

MRI’s of the Head every 3 months over the last 2 years of Covid – started to get used to the thrashing cement mixer and given weight over right eye will not close eyelid when lying on back, had found black silk eye mask solved the 30 Mins of bright light and I started to sleep for the 30 mins, other than after 1st run when they injected dye in cannula.

However, MRI beginning of this year Covid panic, had to wear face mask and eye mask for 1st time – and for the 1st I felt claustrophobic and panicked when I lay down – they allowed me to hang mask off ear and it went OK

Was surprised when Full Body PET Scan 3 weeks ago, after machine dye injection had to wait 50 minds for dye to circulate – PET Scan a breeze compared to MRI

Winston Smith
July 2, 2022 4:47 pm

Cruel and Unusual Punishment: DOJ Instructs VA to Suspend All Benefits of January 6th Prisoner Held in DC Gulag – This is What Happens When “Vindictive Leftists get in Charge”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/cruel-unusual-punishment-doj-instructs-va-suspend-benefits-january-6th-prisoner-held-dc-gulag-happens-vindictive-leftists-get-charge/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=the-gateway-pundit&utm_campaign=dailypm&utm_content=2022-07-01

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
July 2, 2022 4:48 pm

Personally I doubt the Democrats have any intention of handing over control even if they lose every seat in the Mid Terms.

If they can steal one election, they can steal every election.

calli
calli
July 2, 2022 4:53 pm

Thanks Diogenes.

This is where these crusading types lose me. They start off fine, and often I agree with them wholeheartedly… then go off at odd tangents once the matter in hand has lost traction or public interest. It appears to be ego and self promotion.

The perpetrator in these types of crimes is not named to protect the victim.

How difficult is this principle to understand?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 2, 2022 4:55 pm

Love George Benson’s version of This Masquerade. Leon with Joe Cocker is magnificent. Such a prolific writer.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 2, 2022 4:56 pm

The below article is dated 29 June and from British Medical Journal. Author is Australian who previously worked for ABC. 96% of TGA income from fees ! Had not heard or read this before which is another example of how the press has failed in past 2 years.

From FDA to MHRA: are drug regulators for hire?

Patients and doctors expect drug regulators to provide an unbiased, rigorous assessment of investigational medicines before they hit the market. But do they have sufficient independence from the companies they are meant to regulate? Maryanne Demasi investigates

Over the past decades, regulatory agencies have seen large proportions of their budgets funded by the industry they are sworn to regulate.

In 1992, the US Congress passed the Prescription Drug User Fee Act (PDUFA), allowing industry to fund the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) directly through “user fees” intended to support the cost of swiftly reviewing drug applications. With the act, the FDA moved from a fully taxpayer funded entity to one supplemented by industry money. Net PDUFA fees collected have increased 30 fold—from around $29m in 1993 to $884m in 2016.1

In Europe, industry fees funded 20% of the new EU-wide regulator, the European Medicines Agency (EMA), in 1995. By 2010 that had risen to 75%; today it is 89%.2

In 2005 in the UK, the House of Commons’ health committee evaluated the influence of the drug industry on health policy, including the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA).3 The committee was concerned that industry funding could lead the agency to “lose sight of the need to protect and promote public health above all else as it seeks to win fee income from the companies.” But nearly two decades on, little has changed, and industry funding of drug regulators has become the international norm.

The BMJ asked six leading regulators, in Australia, Canada, Europe, Japan, the UK, and US, a series of questions about their funding, transparency in their decision making (and of data), and the rate at which new drugs are approved. We found that industry money permeates the globe’s leading regulators, raising questions about their independence, especially in the wake of a string of drug and device scandals.

Industry fees
Industry money saturates the globe’s leading regulators. The BMJ found that the majority of regulators’ budget—particularly the portion focused on drugs—is derived from industry fees.

Of the six regulators, Australia had the highest proportion of budget from industry fees (96%) and in 2020-2021 approved more than nine of every 10 drug company applications. Australia’s Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) firmly denies that its almost exclusive reliance on pharmaceutical industry funding is a conflict of interest (COI). In response to a query, the agency said, “All fees and charges are prescribed in our legislation. To provide transparency, the TGA fees and charges are published on the TGA website.”

But for decades academics have raised questions about the influence funding has on regulatory decisions, especially in the wake of a string of drug and device scandals—including opioids, Alzheimer’s drugs, influenza antivirals, pelvic mesh, joint prostheses, breast and contraceptive implants, cardiac stents, and pacemakers.4567 An analysis of three decades of PDUFA in the US has shown how a reliance on industry fees is contributing to a decline in evidentiary standards, ultimately harming patients.8 In Australia, experts have called for a complete overhaul of the TGA’s structure and function, arguing that the agency has become too close to industry.

Sociologist Donald Light of Rowan University in New Jersey, US, who has spent decades studying drug regulation, says, “Like the FDA, the TGA was founded to be an independent institute. However, being largely funded by fees from the companies whose products it is charged to evaluate is a fundamental conflict of interest and a prime example of institutional corruption.”

Light says the problem with drug regulators is widespread. Even the FDA—the most well funded regulator—reports 65% of its funding for the evaluation of drugs comes from industry user fees and over the years user fees have expanded to generic drugs, biosimilars, and medical devices.

“It’s the opposite of having a trustworthy organisation independently and rigorously assessing medicines. They’re not rigorous, they’re not independent, they are selective, and they withhold data. Doctors and patients must appreciate how deeply and extensively drug regulators can’t be trusted so long as they are captured by industry funding.”

External advisers
Concern over COIs is not just directed at those who work for the regulators but extends to the advisory panels intended to provide regulators with independent expert advice. A BMJ investigation last year found several expert advisers for covid-19 vaccine advisory committees in the UK and US had financial ties with vaccine manufacturers—ties the regulators judged as acceptable. A large study that investigated the impact of COIs among FDA advisory committee members over 15 years found that those with financial interests solely in the sponsoring firm were more likely to vote in favour of the sponsor’s product, and that people who served on advisory boards solely for the sponsor were significantly more likely to vote in favour of the sponsor’s product. Research exploring the matter from a cross-national comparative perspective is lacking, however.

In Australia, the membership of the TGA’s Advisory Committee on Vaccines is published on the agency’s website. The forms for recording past and current financial and non-financial interests are not, however, made public. A Freedom of Information (FOI) Act request for their financial disclosures in August 2020 had names and details of the disclosures redacted. After seeking additional details, the TGA indicated that this was “personal information” and therefore usually exempt under the FOI act. Subsequently, panel members were approached directly by email and asked whether they would be willing to publish their declarations, but there was no response. Instead, they referred the enquiry back to the TGA which was willing to reveal that 5 of 10 committee members disclosed COIs—but did not say which members or provide any specifics, adding that “these interests usually do not give rise to a conflict.” The agency’s policy allows for excluding members from certain meetings because of a COI, but details of the COI and reasons for the exclusion are not published.

Joel Lexchin, a drug policy researcher at York University in Toronto, says, “People should know about any financial COIs that those giving advice have so that they can evaluate whether those COIs have influenced the advice they are hearing. People need to be able to trust what they hear from public health officials and a lack of transparency erodes trust.”

Of the six major regulators approached by The BMJ, only Canada’s drug regulators did not routinely seek advice from an independent committee and its evaluation team was the only one completely free of financial COIs. European, Japanese, and UK regulators publish a list of members with their full declarations online for public access, while the FDA judges COIs on a meeting-by-meeting basis and can grant waivers allowing participation of members.

Transparency, conflicts of interest, and data
Over the past decade, there have been improvements in the transparency and accessibility of trial data. Today the EMA and Health Canada (HC) both post to their website substantial amounts of clinical data received by the drug sponsor. In addition, Japan’s Pharmaceuticals and Medical Devices Agency (PMDA) posts non-clinical data summaries.

Most regulatory agencies do not, however, undertake their own assessment of individual patient data, but rather rely on summaries prepared by the drug sponsor. The TGA, for example, says it conducts its covid-19 vaccine assessments based on “the information provided by the vaccine’s sponsor.” According to a FOI request from last May, the TGA said it had not seen the source data from the covid-19 vaccine trials. Rather, the agency evaluated the manufacturer’s “aggregate or pooled data.” The TGA does not have the individual participant level datasets pertaining to the covid-19 vaccine trials,17 which are held by the vaccine manufacturer.

“The TGA should not be relying on the analysis of that data produced by the drug companies. Rather the TGA should be reanalysing the source data,” says Lexchin. “Further, the TGA should be holding public hearings before new drugs are approved so that it can hear from members of the public and outside scientists.”

The TGA is hardly alone. Among global regulators, only two—the FDA and PMDA—routinely obtain patient level datasets. And neither proactively publish these data. Recently, a group of more than 80 professors and researchers called the Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency sued the FDA for access to all the data which the agency used to grant licensure for Pfizer’s covid-19 vaccine.19 The FDA argued that the burden on the agency was too great and requested that it be allowed to release appropriately redacted documents at the rate of 500 pages a month, a speed that would take approximately 75 years to complete. In a win for transparency advocates, this was overturned by a US Federal Court Judge, ruling that the FDA would need to turn over all the appropriately redacted data within eight months. Pfizer sought to intervene to ensure “information that is exempt from disclosure under the FOI act is not disclosed inappropriately,” but its request was denied.

Speedy approvals
Following the AIDS crisis of the 1980s and 1990s, PDUFA “user fees” were introduced in the US to fund additional staff to help speed the approval of new treatments. Since then, there has been concern over the way it moulded the regulatory review process—for example, by creating “PDUFA dates,” deadlines for the FDA to review applications, and a host of “expedited pathways” for speeding drugs to market. The practice is now a global norm.

Today, all major regulators offer expedited pathways that are used in a significant proportion of new drug approvals. In 2020, 68% of drug approvals in the US were through expedited pathways, 50% in Europe, and 36% in the UK.

Accelerated approval processes have resulted in new drugs that were more likely to be withdrawn for safety reasons, more likely to carry a subsequent black box warning, and more likely to have one or more dosage forms voluntarily discontinued by the manufacturer.

“One reason why drugs approved by the FDA so close to the deadline may have had more safety problems is that the FDA reviewers were afraid of going over the deadline for making a decision and thereby jeopardising the revenue that the FDA gets from drug companies,” says Lexchin.

Aaron Kesselheim, professor of medicine at Brigham and Women’s Hospital and Harvard Medical School, adds that accelerated approvals generally have a lower burden of proof for efficacy.

“The accelerated approval pathway explicitly changes the underlying efficacy ‘standard’ in that it allows approval based on changes to a surrogate measure that is not well validated, and is only reasonably likely to predict clinical benefit,” says Kesselheim who resigned from an FDA advisory committee last year in protest over the agency’s approval of a controversial Alzheimer’s drug. Following the committee’s vote against approval, the FDA shifted the goal posts, approving aducanumab through an accelerated approval based on the disputed surrogate measure of lowered visible ?-amyloid protein levels.23

Courtney Davis, a medical and political sociologist at the Kings College London, says that a general taxation or a drug company levy would be better options to fund regulators. “PDUFA is the worst kind of arrangement since it allows industry to shape FDA policies and priorities in a very direct way. Each time PDUFA was reauthorised, industry had a seat at the table to renegotiate the terms of its funding and determine which performance metrics and goals the agency should be evaluated by. Hence the FDA’s focus on making quicker and quicker approval decisions—even for drugs not judged to be therapeutically important for patients.”

The regulator-industry revolving door
Critics argue that regulatory capture is not only being baked in by the way in which agencies are funded, but also staffed. A “revolving door” has seen many agency officials end up working or consulting for the same companies they regulated.

At the FDA, generally regarded as the world’s premier regulator, nine out of 10 of its past commissioners between 2006 and 2019 went on to secure roles linked with pharmaceutical companies, and its 11th and most recent, Stephen Hahn, is working for Flagship Pioneering, a company that acts as an incubator for new biopharmaceutical companies.

In February, the US Senate narrowly confirmed Robert Califf, a cardiologist, to lead the FDA, a position he previously held under the Obama administration. Califf’s rehiring led some senators to argue that his ties to the pharmaceutical industry made him unfit for the role. Financial disclosure forms show Califf was paid $2.7m by Verily Life Sciences and in 2021 held a position on the boards of two pharmaceutical companies, AmyriAD and Centessa Pharmaceuticals.

After resigning from a senior position in the FDA’s vaccine division, Philip Krause secured a role in the biotech sector. One study found more than a quarter of the FDA employees who approved cancer and haematology drugs between 2001 and 2010 left the agency and now work or consult for pharmaceutical companies.25

Beyond the FDA, Ian Hudson, chief executive of the UK’s MHRA between 2013 and 2019, now serves on the board of biotech company Sensyne Health and is a senior adviser for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Before joining the MHRA, Hudson held various senior roles at pharmaceutical giant SmithKline Beecham.

Reform
Critics argue that both small and large structural changes are necessary to help restore regulators’ ability to carry out independent decision making, free of industry influence.

Lexchin outlines several reforms for advisory committees, including that all financial COIs, including the dollar amount of payment, be disclosed along with an explanation about why these people cannot be replaced with someone without COIs. Lexchin’s suggestions align with longstanding recommendations from the US Institute of Medicine.

Kesselheim says one crucial step is for the FDA to re-examine its approach to expedited approvals. “There needs to be more clarity about the endpoints and what the scientific basis is for choosing an endpoint.” Kesselheim says greater assurances are needed that the endpoints selected truly are “reasonably likely” to predict clinical benefit, as the FDA’s accelerated approval standard requires. For expedited drugs, “you also need to make sure that a confirmatory trial is underway at the time of approval, so that it can be completed in a timely fashion. And if it isn’t completed or the trial is negative, then you need to think about how you might pull back on the product,” he says.

Light says it is no longer possible for doctors and patients to receive unbiased, rigorous evaluations from drug regulators. He suggests setting up non-profit organisations like Germany’s Institute for Quality and Efficiency in Health Care, which was established to carry out evaluations of approved drugs that are independent of industry, rigorous, unbiased, and transparent. “The question is why weren’t drug regulators doing this trustworthy, transparent, rigorous, unbiased job in the first place?” says Light.

While historical drug disasters like sulfanilamide and thalidomide raised the stature of regulatory agencies, Light argues regulators now need their own watchdog and is calling for a drug and vaccine safety board, independent of the drug regulator, with the authority, staffing, and funds to investigate incidents of patient harm. “Countries have independent safety boards for airlines and their passengers. Why not for drugs and patients too?” says Light.

Woolfe
Woolfe
July 2, 2022 4:57 pm

Calli,
Does this mean they should’t be on a sex offenders register in case their name is tracked back to the victim?

Tom
Tom
July 2, 2022 5:01 pm

If they can steal one election, they can steal every election.

The Dems have all the pieces in place to run the US into the ground as a lawless Third World shithole: news media in their pocket, a corrupt judiciary, a cratering economy that benefits only the rich and most of America’s politicians on the take — even those in the GOP.

A second civil war seems inevitable.

calli
calli
July 2, 2022 5:02 pm

I don’t know, Woolfe. It might be better if the victim (or their family) was consulted on the matter. They could have right of veto.

These cases are always fraught.

Vicki
July 2, 2022 5:04 pm

Just had an interesting article on Lithuania & the escalation of the Ukraine conflict. Unfortunately, it is a subscription newsletter & it came to me through a text message inclusion – so I can’t post a link.

But this is the opening par:

“In a move of staggering stupidity and hubris, Lithuanians banned the transit of Russian goods via the Suwalki corridor to Kaliningrad this week. Kaliningrad, which is wedged between Poland on the west and Lithuania on the east, is home to almost a half-million Russians and the headquarters for the Russian Navy’s Baltic Sea free.

After World War 2 an agreement was made that Lithuania would allow unimpeded transport lines for Russia along this corridor. ………If I was a Lithuanian, I’d be packing my bags …….”

Would love to post the rest of this piece & will see what I can do. But it certainly adds to the dangerous escalation of this conflict.

Zipster
Zipster
July 2, 2022 5:06 pm

Of the six regulators, Australia had the highest proportion of budget from industry fees (96%) and in 2020-2021 approved more than nine of every 10 drug company applications. Australia’s Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) firmly denies that its almost exclusive reliance on pharmaceutical industry funding is a conflict of interest (COI). In response to a query, the agency said, “All fees and charges are prescribed in our legislation. To provide transparency, the TGA fees and charges are published on the TGA website.”

corruption in plain sight, the very best

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