Rex Angersays:
July 5, 2022 at 4:09 pm

It’s not that. You aren’t even close.

Ukraine is being punished by the Right because of the bastardry of the US Democrat Party from 2016-2020.

no. ukraine is being punished by Russia

Opa.

https://eprimefeed.com/latest-news/full-text-of-vladimir-putins-speech-at-spief-june-17-2022-transcript/114448/

ukraine is being punished by Russia

Lolwut?

Did Ukraine lie about Vladimir Putin being a Russian agent, then weasel him out of a Presidential Election in favour of a dementia case?

Shaterzzz, been meaning to say congratulations, Dad, to you.

Bringing up four kids in public housing and keeping them stable is no mean feat, even back when yours were young. You were a good listener, which with teens is half the battle. The other half is their friends. Now it is extremely difficult to parent in public housing, because so few others in this sort of housing are good parents and it shows in the kids. Back in my day in the 1950’s there was at least a common culture of deprivation, of sending up hoity-toity types, of looking out for your kids and community condemnation of those way out of line, as when a mother left very young kids alone or when a deadbeat dad roughed mum or the kids up. Albo’s single mum too would have had support to draw on even in the 60’s in the inner-city public housing flats she was allocated. In his inner-city Labor Party Branch President days my own Hairy was a visitor to Albo’s home there. He says it was a simple flat, but well cared for; a far cry from what you see in these areas today.

With immigration and changing patterns of work the situation has markedly altered. There is a greater tendency to rely on government largesse, less unskilled work, more drugs, more expressed mental illness, more self-neglect, a lot of learned helplessness and less neighbourliness. The housing thus quickly deteriorates, especially in the older high rises, and ‘sinks of deprivation’ emerge.

Zipster:

The administrative state is out of control and must be very heavily pruned.

Purged, Zipster.
The term is ‘Purged’.
As in ‘I love the smell of a good purging in the morning. It smells like victory.’

It’s not that. You aren’t even close.

Really?

So why then, Oh Clever Clog, are so many folks here backing the Russians?

You all know what propaganda sounds like, so Russa invoking the word ‘Nazi’ every 15 seconds in regard to everyone and everything it doesn’t like, should have never registered with any of you in the same way it doesn’t when Antifa and the ABC use it.

And yet, here we are. Ukraine purged Azov (by its own members’ statements) of every species of extremist when it nationalised the unit in 2015, and everyone here swallowed the Russian casus belli whole.

And then never batted an eyelid when you got such corkers as these ardent supporters turning up amongst the Russian forces…

About 8 hours ago I posted about the article by Frank Chung on news.com au regarding Vax injury case.

Can no longer see it. Can anybody else see it now or has somebody woken up to fact not a good idea to have such an article day before decision on 4th booster.

Just had a quick chat with a friend of my son who is in Army. Surprisingly knowledgable about Vax etc. Says Army already pushing jab no 4 which had not heard before and bit of a surprise as decision only being made tomorrow.

‘terminally replaced’ vs ‘retired with extreme prejudice’

I’m pinching that. An excellent summation of the current impasse.

Rosie:
I used a portion of one of your posts this morning and got a repeated ‘internal error’ message.
Otherwise back to normal.
I’ll repost your post and see what happens.

And Margaret Thatcher is alleged have needed only around 4 hours of sleep at night time. Not sure if she had 40 winks in the afternoon though.

I don’t think she did. Her excellent mind became demented in her later years.

Sleep deprivation is said in some studies to be related to an increase in dementia of the aged. Hence I try for seven or eight hours straight every night; otherwise, an arvo nap catch up.

I am annoyed that on every day this week I have things I have to do early on, meaning a 6.30am rise, so I have to get to bed earlier (which is difficult). Hairy, a night owl, just sleeps on, and on, and on.
Even more awful, tomorrow I can’t have a cup of tea till after my Cardiac Scan in the morning.

Zippy, you are the person least qualified to speak on that matter on this site, given your long history of pro-Nazi rhetoric.

you can’t quote a single pro-nazi post I have made, because none exist

yet more piss poor trolling

H B Bear says:
July 5, 2022 at 4:21 pm

Peter Hitchins has a real bee in his bonnet about a potential link between use of Mary Jane and many very public murders.

Marijuana is extremely dangerous to schizophrenics. Not that you’ll that from the hippies.

Well, it’s a bit more complicated – sorry, Bear.

The dope that was available in the 1970s/80s was very much weaker than what is around today, on average. You were offered ‘leaf’ (3 joints to get any result, if you were lucky) or ‘leaf and heads’ (only joints with heads, thinly sprinkled, did anything) and ‘heads’ of variable quality.

There were the little grey/green compressed Thai heads sold on skewers as Budda sticks, highly prized for good reason.

There was a bit of opiated hash around – great value if you wanted to spend an afternoon or evening appreciating art and music. Black South African hash with white flecks.

An afternoon smoke of same put paid to my legal career. I attended a lecture after imbibing and realised for good that it wasn’t working. It confirmed many previous indicators. My mind doesn’t work like that. Waste of time.

The weed around today is many times stronger and cheaper than what we smoked. In those days, I would have unconditionally supported legalising marijuana.

Not sure about the stuff around these days.

Could someone please explain why we, Australians, need to take sides on a war far away with no strategic importance for us?

Johanna – We’re nearly defenseless. So we have to do as much as possible to incur favours from the people who can defend us, which is mainly the US.

Consequently the Australian government of whichever party spends a vast amount of effort to keep the US interested (they have the attentions span of a gnat). At the moment Biden is using Ukraine as a distraction squirrel, therefore we have to be seen to support his policies regarding Ukraine. If we did not, when the time comes to draw upon the favour-bank, the State Dept would tell the President that we betrayed them in such and such a circumstance, therefore the US should not help Australia with the blood of Americans.

So much of our international policy has been about this, like when Howard supported W in Iraq. Which he did elegantly to incur the favour without serious commitment in lives and money. Indeed the only two guys who died did so due to forklift accidents. Iraq, Afghanistan, East Timor, Solomon Islands, Ukraine – all the same aim, pretty much.

The problem with the favour-bank idea is that the US and the EU are untrustworthy and unreliable sugar daddies. But since we have nothing else that’s about all we can attempt.

Of course we could build a serious defense, but the Left has opposed that for forever and the Right are captured by the wets who think climate change is more dangerous than China. So it’s back to the favour-bank.

Rex, your transcript doesn’t match the quotes attributed to Putin in that shonky NY Post article that can’t manage to get even basic facts like where the speech occurred correct. It’s a pretty standard hatchet job that starts with a lie:

Russian President Vladimir Putin has compared himself to Peter the Great

No, he didn’t. It also ends with a lie in the form of weasel words:

Putin blamed Vladimir Lenin, the founder of the Soviet Union, for creating Ukraine on what Putin said was historically Russian territory.

This isn’t even controversial, and presenting it as if Putin is being dishonest is dishonest. Most of Ukraine was indeed historically Russian territory, and the Soviets quite deliberately established and built up the SSR of Ukraine in an effort to ensure the USSR would not be overly dominated by the Russian SFSR. They were concerned that Russian nationalism would be a threat to their power. It turns out they were right to be concerned, given that Russian nationalism played a major role in the eventual demise of the USSR.

If you are looking for the transcript of Putin’s speech referred to in your article, this is what you’re looking for. I don’t see anything there that deviates much from what Putin has been saying for years.

Big_Nambas says:
July 5, 2022 at 2:33 pm

The WA gov is full of shit!! I know too many people in Perth that are unvaxxed for the gov numbers to be true. If QLD has 18% unvaxxed I find it very hard to believe West Aussies are so much stupider than them. I am unvaxxed and had covid, not much fun but better than the jab side effects that are slowly being reported.

Same with me Big Nambas, in my circle of acquaintances I’d say that 2 out of every 10 are unvaxxed. In my family in WA, my wife, a daughter and youngest son are unvaxxed, another daughter is vaxxed, but she’s a school teacher so she had little choice. I’ve got other family interstate and overseas who unfortunately took the jab.

I think that WA would be like Queensland, around 18 to 20 percent said “no thanks, bugger off.”

favor bank

An oldie but still a goodie, Bruce.
As first operationally described in Tom Wolfe’s ‘Bonfire of the Vanities’.
Describes our arcane and archaic system of defense admirably.
The tummy-roll manoeuvre.
Also known as the scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours mode of partnership.
Often highly unequal and subject to turbulence.

So why then, Oh Clever Clog, are so many folks here backing the Russians?

I can’t speak for others. I understand why the Russians are doing what they’re doing. Fundamentally, I don’t consider it our business and we should never have made it our business. That’s my position.

Townsville 15.1°C (coldest in 15 years)

Oi which one of you southerners left the door open.

We scraped to 16 today, yesterday if you don’t include before the trough came through where it was 18 deg we managed 15.

I remember 2007, 11-14deg but that lasted 1 day. Sorry for all the power coming this way but my reverse cycle has been running flat out set to 26deg, mates in Mackay same.

Nice 2″ of rain though.

m0nty-fa

Zippy, you are the person least qualified to speak on that matter on this site, given your long history of pro-Nazi rhetoric.

You reject any thought that they might have had – what was that phrase? Cassie, please help, m0nty-fa’s phrase excusing various groups around the world for hateful rhetoric and acts of violence has slipped my mind, can you remember it?

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
July 5, 2022 at 4:56 pm
According to The Mirror, the decision was made after an Intelligence Corps soldier complained about the nickname Green Slime, in reference to the Corps’ beret colour.
The soldier was reportedly left “humiliated” after he was asked if there was “anything from green slime?” at a briefing

He needs a stint under the tutelage of Battery Sgt Williams

OCO

It turns out they were right to be concerned, given that Russian nationalism played a major role in the eventual demise of the USSR.

In the Perestroika era, Gorbachev once made an unfortunate slip of the tongue when he remarked about the “Russian, that is to say, the Soviet people (blah, blah, blah)”. There was no real doubt about what he thought, but even he had to bow to Soviet political correctness.

Mother Load:

What links the community of the right together is respect. Disagree sure, but respect other people having opinions. Soon enough, with ideas no longer being impediments, you get to see the person themselves. The Left cannot get to that point.
So, a refugee from the Left can find a new home on the right where they can discuss opinions. They don’t have to be the same. They just have to respect others.

Many valid points.
I shall, of course, steal them and refuse attribution so people think I’m a clever clogs.

Fundamentally, I don’t consider it our business and we should never have made it our business. That’s my position.

Unfortunately we live in Mongistan, so a far off war with dubious combatants is made a policy centrepiece of the Mongistan Uniparty.

The picture of Murphy holding the sign at the rally shows her laughing, she thought the sign was a hoot.

Murphy should be sacked.

Totally agree. She also used it to attract Twitter followers.

Would she have put up a pic slagging off at any other religion, one in particular?

No. She would have known better. She just didn’t care if she offended Christians.

Sack her as an example. She’s no innocent who didn’t know. She thought it was smart.

Bourne 1879:

Health Ministers, CHO’s and most experts now in unison about not bringing back mask mandates.

Interestingly enough, I was in Longreach Hospital today getting a CT scan and everyone was wearing masks. Whenever I spoke to someone on staff, I asked them to remove their mask as I was finding it very difficult to follow instructions given verbally.
No one refused.
🙂

Motherlode, 5.18
Interesting take on ‘Putin and his mob.’Anything on Zelensky and his mob?

I don’t think what Murphy did was a matter of free speech either.

She was striking at the very heart of Christian belief. The Virgin Birth of the Saviour.
That’s pretty serious bad behaviour. Unthinkable in another age.
The sort of thing that got Wendy Bacon debarred from legal practice as not of good character.
Except worse?

and china is busy setting up a checkmate in the pacific as we speak. we’re screwed

Could the CCP do a worse job of running Australia than the current Mongs?

The CCP putting them up against the wall and shooting them for ratting out Australia to the CCP would gain the CCP quite a bit of favour with the locals.

Most Quislings don’t survive, one way or another.

In my role as a journalist I always strive to remain impartial and respectful to either side of rational debate

That one word “rational” provides all the wiggle room required.

. All mispellings can be umproved by the addition of spot points at the sart.
. Luck this.
.whore this.

.RanDOm cPtilIZationS r Gud Too.

Stop it!!

More than 1200 people who weren’t up-to-date with their COVID-19 vaccinations have died in NSW so far this year.

its surprisingly hard to find for the public… but there’s been 2959 deaths in 2022 in nsw due to covid.

So that would mean about 1700 people who were ‘up to date’ have died.

Now.. 65% of people are up to date at three shots at the moment.

That doesn’t appear to be much of a benefit, does it ?

Should Albo skip the Pacific forum next week to focus on domestic issues?

Yes 72% 235 votes
No 28% 93 votes

Daily Mail for your chance to vote, and see Albo get all testy being quizzed about o/s – and he’s off to Fiji next week.

rickw, re a refinery, is the small one in Barnawartha still there? It did good business recycling oil from all around till the price dropped too far a few years ago. I heard it was mothballed, if so it may be worth getting it going again.

The agony of the West
Thierry Meyssan, VoltaireNet.org

areffsays:
July 5, 2022 at 3:15 pm
Mem says at this stage you have a weeping wound. I am a carer for elderly with deep ulcers. There is a new product/dressing available through chemists developed by the lady who treated burns patients in Bali bombings which has never failed when I have used it. (Allevyn Adhesive foam dressing for burns and deep wounds). It heals a deep wound from inside out, whilst absorbing seepage. Get a pack of two and a size that will cover and overlap wound. You will need someone else to apply if on your back. Ask chemist if you have no one to assist. You leave it on for several days then change when it gets wet. Remarkably it prevents scaring even for a large wound.

OCO:

remember when we thought the crazy Millennials would graduate from their gender studies courses and the realities of life would slap the stupid ideologies out of them? Boy were we wrong. They graduated and made the stupid ideologies realities of life.

Does anyone remember the cisnormative letter we got on the Doolords site a few years ago?
Oh, how we laughed!
…and here we are.

duncanm says: July 5, 2022 at 6:29 pm

its surprisingly hard to find for the public… but there’s been 2959 deaths in 2022 in nsw due to covid.
So that would mean about 1700 people who were ‘up to date’ have died.
Now.. 65% of people are up to date at three shots at the moment.
That doesn’t appear to be much of a benefit, does it ?

Dear statisticats, what’s the right way to compute the benefit here?
I’m figuring the effect of “being up to date on boosters” is that the number of people who died from covid was reduced by 11%. ((1700÷2959) ?0.65)÷0.65 = -0.11

I just checked “NSW Respiratory Surveillance Report – week ending 25 June 2022” and the figures for that week are worse than the longer term average. :

There were 104 COVID-19 deaths reported this week. Of these, all were eligible for a third dose of a COVID-19 vaccine but only 72 (69%) had received a third dose.

The % of deaths that were boosted was more than the % boosted in general pop.

May be better to look at CFR in boosted vs non-boosted, and there have been some publications about that somewhere, just can’t recall where, but they were from a while back so won’t include effects of newer (BA.5) strain and further waning of original jab efficacy (or increased benefit of booster).

COL CB,
You might want to look at your link again. Cases in Qld are 1.3m.

However that is way under real number. In Feb the CHO Qld said he thought 1/3 Qld had had it by then and most did not know it. That would be well over 1.3m. More recently an expert from the Burnett Institute said she thought only 40% of cases had been reported for the country. When she said it official stats were 8 million so that wouid mean more like 20 million.

Either way you can very safely say more than half population has had it. Naturally that would mean the death, ICU and hospitalisation rates are much much lower than they like to keep telling us. Also remember those cases of death and hospital numbers are with Covid and not purely Covid. Points the media never seem to be able to pick up on.

“Cumulative 705k individual people infected and 1281 deaths from it, that’s a 0.18% death rate”

Fugitive Methane.
AaaaaHHhaaaahahahaha!

I wish I myself produced more of this.

Sadly, the sulphites and valve events give me away… 🙁

Bourne1879 says: July 5, 2022 at 7:21 pm

You might want to look at your link again. Cases in Qld are 1.3m.

Yes, I saw that the first time. What’s your quibble? You do know the difference between cases and people, right?

Agreed on the under-reporting, if it were anything like what Austria found it will be 5x, but producing an estimated IFR requires estimating rather than just counting cases, more assumptions and uncertainty in that.

Lizzie

Did you see the link to UK Friends of Friendless Churches in the sidebar (among the tweets)?

Russia-Ukraine Crisis: President Vladimir Putin declares victory in Luhansk | Latest English News

@Calli:

” These rather pesky little variants are quite intelligent

A virus more intelligent than the Health Minister.

Odd words to use if the thing is so deadly. ”

Anyone who claims that a “virus” is “intelligent” is a terminal ratbag. Your basic virus is functionally a bio-chemical weapon. It does NOT retire to the library to contemplate its next evil move. Whence the “Spanish flu” that slaughtered hundreds of millions , starting as WW1 was winding down? Did it appear out of nowhere, slaughter millions already weakened and wander of in a huff and re-engineer itself into an endless stream of lethal dub-variants? NO.

Interesting pat of the timeline is that it appeared in Europe late in WW1, just after the arrival of hundreds of thousands of Chinese labourers, imported from Southern China, to do the civil engineering “dog-work” for the Allies big push against the Germans.

That this caper STARTED with a laboratory genetic engineering exercise in “gain of function” has been known from early days. It is a BIO-WEAPON, pure and simple. Therefore, the people who “made it” know EXACTLY how it works and EXACTLY how to “tweak” it.

In the “REAL” world, virii “burn themselves out”; in one of two ways: Being SO lethal that they the unfortunate hosts do not live long enough to transmit the bug to a new victim, or become LESS lethal with each replication cycle, thus allowing the unfortunate hosts to recover and pass on the bug but in a slightly less potent strain.

As for the outright criminality of the ruthless suppression of proven “treatments” (not cures), Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine, this CLEARLY indicates that a “crisis” WAS the desired result, and a crisis with a high body-count so much more desirable.

Time to dust off the tumbrels.

Three gears – tax, spend and blame.

Four, you forgot snivel for when a reversal of direction is required.

I don’t know what to make of the Chinese & Russians showing off their hypersonic capabilities.
But the US isn’t showing off theirs.
Wonder what the story is there.

But the US isn’t showing off theirs.

US Hypersonic Missile Fails in Test in Fresh Setback for Program

Zipster, I think the only response to that is uh-oh spaghetti-oh.

How can the US be lagging the Chinese & Russians on this technology.
The US spend fuck tons more than the Chinese & the Russians are spending a fraction of what the both of them are.

I was channel surfing this evening & came across Seven on one of the fox movie channels.
That is still one of my favourite films.
The sequence from when Spacey walks into the cop shop until the end is one of the best in movie history.

Not really my area but in a nutshell.

Glide ones are shot from a rocket and then detach in the upper atmosphere at high speeds, they rely on control surfaces to steer themselves but thereafter are unpowered.

Scramjets are propelled by themselves and retain the ability to travel at high speed for longer presumably.

Sandbox video that gives a pretty good rundown.