Open Thread – Tues 5 July 2022


Surrender of Lord Cornwallis, John Trumbull, 1820

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bespoke
bespoke
July 5, 2022 10:39 am

Don’t be needy!

Bette Middler is still a nasty crank and booster of metoo movement.

Not red pillid. Only fear of sliding down the totem pole.

shatterzzz
July 5, 2022 10:40 am

I know we all think our kids are wonderful but mine are extraordinary.
Out of 4 “houso” kids only my middle daughter was a “minor’ worry .. unlike her siblings, 2 sisters & brother, she was as “hard as nails” and reacted like a “hammer” when crossed .. at 14 she was a tom-boy, gang leader and a walking terror of both the school and surrounding streets .. the local ethnic “wannabes” even crossed the road when she appeared ..
Strangely enuf, she luvved school, especially HS, never a day off unless absolutely necessary and had the outgoing personality that wun over everyone except those that crossed her ( a definite “white” supremist .. LOL!}
She was also a talented gymnast .. won a NSW State Schools Age title for trampoline at 13 .. but like lotza kids street-life, at the time, appealed more than the rigours of training .. fortunately. as time wore on nothing untoward crept in .. as far as I know she didn’t do drugs (not that I ever knew!) but I had to pick her up from the plod shop for underage drinking a coupla times ..

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 5, 2022 10:44 am

He whizzes around consulting his list, does it in logical lane order, knows where everything is, and is out of there in fifteen minutes.

Hehe, a man of my own heart. A fine SF book is Alas Babylon by Pat Frank. It’s worth reading if only for the bit about the main (male) character’s approach to shopping…

Eyrie
Eyrie
July 5, 2022 10:47 am

I read “Alas Babylon” a while back. Worthwhile.

sfw
sfw
July 5, 2022 10:47 am

Women in supermarkets, are they trained to do this? Stop on seeing what is wanted and then place the trolley on the other side of the aisle, then move between the trolley and the shelf and start examining every item in the section that holds their desired object, thus blocking the aisle completely. There’s also the meeting of friends, they approach each other head on and then stop side by side, trolleys in front, and start the conversation which seems to block out any spatial awareness of what they are doing. When I or someone else asks politely “Excuse me I need to get through”, I get a dirty look and huffiness and they slowly make room for one to pass.

Eyrie
Eyrie
July 5, 2022 10:49 am

Anyone got a link to Australia’s population pyramid? I can’t figure out how we can only have 150,000 deaths a year unless there are lots of young people.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 5, 2022 10:49 am

“How about you start there,” she said. “And have a vagina.”

Don’t forget the uterus and ovaries and tubes. And our ‘on’ button.
We wouldn’t get very far in our reproductive role if we didn’t have these.

Just because you can’t see them doesn’t mean you can ignore them.

We come as a package. Double entendre intended.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 5, 2022 10:51 am

Oops, looking at the comments the Kindle edition of Alas Babylon appears to have been done by a psychotic OCR program on LSD. My copy is the paperback, grotty because much reread.

shatterzzz
July 5, 2022 10:51 am

oh, and I also ‘shop’, that is I amble around thinking of what we might need and look for new and interesting products, and always pop in a few things that I never intended buying when I went in.

I’m like that on EBAY .. a stamp collector for yonks I can’t pass up what I consider a bargain even tho stamps are next to worthless as an investment these days .. on my estimates the collection is/should be worth an, easy, $20 000 but in reality I would be lucky to break even on what I’ve spent over the years (or the grandees cos I’m not selling it) .. fortunately, I am good at it and so I’m only out of pocket a coupla thousand rather than the actual the face-value of the, mostly, mint stamps ..
but everytime I say, “NO more” another bargain pops up .. LOL!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 5, 2022 10:54 am

What a great idea – get rid of a flag for everyone, replace it with one for 0.8% of people

Tuesday, 05 July 2022
Victoria’s public service tells us Aboriginal people make up 0.8% of Victoria’s population.

johanna
johanna
July 5, 2022 10:54 am

He whizzes around consulting his list, does it in logical lane order, knows where everything is, and is out of there in fifteen minutes.

I do that too. My pet hate about supermarkets is when they move things around, which they deliberately do to foil efficient shoppers and make them wander around scanning the shelves.

I ignore specials, unless they relate to something I am buying anyway – then I might stock up. 15 minutes is a long shop for me – I generally am out of there in 10, checkout queue permitting.

Loathe shopping, except in plant nurseries. I can linger there for a looong time … 🙂

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 5, 2022 10:55 am

Calli, forget the quality of her argument.
Focus on the quantity of women now arguing against a woke society.

I think there is much for this. Bette (and others) represent and may well prompt others to undermine the monolithic solidity of woke.

For any individual they will not kick down the full structure of woke thinking at once – it starts with rejecting one piece. Then another, and as the woke mob turns on them it becomes easier to reject another.

That seems the be the usual pattern with people who shift from left to right. It starts with something, and that rejecting it makes it easier – since they are no longer being rewarded for orthodoxy.

And there is something else which facilitates this.

The left, as a community, demands total conformity to a very precise set of ideas. Not 80%. Not 90%. But 100%.

The right, as a community, is less dogmatic. They don’t demand others think just like them. You will find there people who believe that the government should promote morals (usually the same morals they have) and others think they should but out of morality altogether. Some people think international trade should be free and unrestricted for the benefits that accrue, and others who think regulation should be deliberately tilted to benefit the nation. Some people cleave to traditional morals and others who think morality should be whatever does not affect another person. Some are religious, some are atheists. Some are gay, some are straight. Some are omnivores, some are vegetarian, some want large families while some want a small one, etc.

What links the community of the right together is respect. Disagree sure, but respect other people having opinions. Soon enough, with ideas no longer being impediments, you get to see the person themselves. The Left cannot get to that point.

So, a refugee from the Left can find a new home on the right where they can discuss opinions. They don’t have to be the same. They just have to respect others.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 5, 2022 11:01 am

feelthebernsays:

July 5, 2022 at 10:30 am

Panzer the buffer was increased from 2.5 to 3% in Oct for the banks.
Non banks it was mantained at 2.5%

Thanks ‘bern.
I was working from memory (always dangerous).
But that makes the point more emphatically.
With a buffer of 2.5% to 3%, anyone claiming stress after a 1% rise has either lost their job since applying, lied on their application or is lying to the reporter.

Barry
Barry
July 5, 2022 11:02 am

Sancho Panzer says:
July 5, 2022 at 10:08 am

Old School Conservativesays:

July 5, 2022 at 9:56 am

Focus on the quantity of women now arguing against a woke society.

Quite so.
I mentioned the other day about an acquaintance who is pretty much rustadon left on most issues.
But vehemently opposed to the trannie movement.
Not having any of it.

None of it.
I think there is a yuuuge untapped well of opposition which just needs a couple of triggers to speak up.

Young and newly married women loooove the homos. They’re so sensitive and so very safe to be around.

As soon as the kiddies come along: the homos get booted, ghosted, erased. Women instinctively know the threat they pose to their sons. They’d never admit it though. That would be mean.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 5, 2022 11:03 am

feelthebernsays:
July 5, 2022 at 10:34 am
I saw a video on Twitter the shooter made. Looks like a complete nihilist. His pics also give off a definite Manson vibe.

He liked the soundtrack from Kick Ass.

In Illinois there’s a class of gun owner that effectively has to re-apply for their gun licence each year.
That’s why Illinois background checks are the highest or second highest in the nation but their gun sales are so low comparatively.

The Left/DemoCraps will concentrate on the Highland Park Shooter ignoring

Chicago’s Extreme Gun Control Hasn’t Stopped 60 being Shot And 15 Dead This Weekend

Press Room July 4, 2022

In Democratic Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s progressive, gun-control-laden city of Chicago, at least 60 people were shot and 15 killed from Thursday evening into Monday as the city celebrates the 4th of July.

Over 60 people have been shot, 15 fatally, since Thursday evening, Chicago police report.

According to a report by WGN9 in Chicago, no one is in police custody for the homicides.

In 2021, The Chicago Tribune reported that more than 100 people were shot and 17 were killed during the July 4th weekend.

The fatalities include 29-year-old Keishone Roberts, who was shot Friday evening. He was transported to a hospital, where he later died.

That same evening a 26-year-old was shot and killed “in the 6500-block of South Wolcott Avenue.” He was pronounced dead at the hospital.

The violence continued Saturday when a 30-year-old man was shot in the head and killed “in the 9000 block of South Escanaba Avenue.”

Another fatal shooting occurred at 3 a.m. Sunday; a 35-year-old man was shot while riding inside a vehicle “in the 3800 block of South Kedzie Avenue.” The man was shot in the neck by someone outside the car and died at the scene.

One person was shot and killed, and two others were shot and wounded early Sunday morning. The victim was a 24-year-old man who was shot numerous times and pronounced dead at the scene.

Breitbart News reported that at least 11 people were shot and two stabbed on Monday in Chicago.

Sunday night a group of residents surrounded Chicago Police during a gathering, vandalizing the police vehicles and shooting fireworks at officers.

Reporters noted, “Crowd of people in the Loop attack Chicago police after some civilian cars do donuts in an intersection. Crowd shoots fireworks and physical hit CPD vehicles.”

Data compiled by the Sun-Times shows 320 people were killed in Chicago January 1, 2022, through July 3, 2022.

Note: and 15 killed from Thursday evening into Monday presumably excludes Highland Park Shooting

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 5, 2022 11:03 am

Knuckle Draggersays:

July 5, 2022 at 10:21 am

When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxon began to hate.

Bloody Germans, at it again.

I have no time,
for poems that rhyme.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 5, 2022 11:06 am

Any other Amex holders get the Pride 2023 email this morning ?

calli
calli
July 5, 2022 11:11 am

The Beloved got it. Deleted without reading.

The tribe has spoken.

Frank
Frank
July 5, 2022 11:13 am

I wonder if the death camp wardresses had that look that as they gazed upon the horror of the dead and dying?

Wong has always had it.

Cassie of Sydney
July 5, 2022 11:14 am

“I think there is a yuuuge untapped well of opposition which just needs a couple of triggers to speak up.”

I agree and the triggering is happening however the demographic of the triggered is mainly found amongst older women. The big problem is young women. So many young women are now fully indoctrinated into the woke progressive nonsense that screams “women can have penises”, “men can have babies” and “individuals with a cervix”. They believe the shit that there are 72 genders, they think the cheat and pervert Lia Thomas should be able to swim against biological women and so on. What will change the thinking of these young indoctrinated women? Probably not until there is a wave of sexual assaults from allowing males in change rooms and when a female is injured or worse, killed, from playing/competing against a biological male. As it stands, there have already been sexual assaults against women from males in change rooms and hospitals (a woman was raped in an English hospital, supposedly in a “female only” ward….the NHS tried to cover up for the rapist) and women in prisons in the UK and particularly the US have been subjected to sexual assault/rape from male sex offenders who, once they get to prison, claim to be women and then are transferred to women only jails. Wonder why? Nobody cares about female prisoners, probably our most vulnerable women, they’re at the coal face of this perverse ideology.

miltonf
miltonf
July 5, 2022 11:15 am

Dumped Amex in 2019. I was getting hang wringing, misandrist letters about domestic violence.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 5, 2022 11:16 am

When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxon began to hate.

Bloody Germans, at it again.

The original poem has it ‘the English’, not just Saxons. Kipling wrote the poem after his son was killed in WW1. Kipling was uncompromisingly hostile to the Germans (perhaps moreso after his loss). He was hardly going to invoke a German name like ‘Saxon’ to describe his own people – the British were actually fighting units from Saxony in France.

Frank
Frank
July 5, 2022 11:16 am

Elbow’s new moniker: Anthony Overseasy

Desperately trying to vicariously cobble together some gravitas (by proxy or rather, by proximity) because he knows how he is viewed back home.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 5, 2022 11:17 am

Journalist Frank Chung has another detailed article up on news.com. au about a Vax injury case. 35 year old male DJ. Says Dr’s told him was Moderna related but too scared of regulators to report it as a Vax injury. Over 200 comments in just 2 hours.

4th such Vax injury article I have seen by Chung. However “odd” that such articles never appear in CM, HS or Tele.

Meanwhile current Covid article in the Oz get hundreds of mainly “no more” Vax comments.

At what point do the newspaper editors read the room and start having experts who are not solely pushing the Vax narrative. Just what is it or how much was it to make the editors follow the Government line with pretty much zero questioning.

Not noticed her before and don’t remember if it was HS or the Oz but Dr Nancy Baxter of Melbourne Uni wins the prize for biggest mandate fan from the many quoted in past few days. Somebody suggested she is a fan of medicine by coercion which seems right based on what she said.

Health Ministers, CHO’s and most experts now in unison about not bringing back mask mandates. Yet we still have mandates affecting plenty relating to Vax and employment. Need to keep pushing back as the majority of experts seem keen to push the next one.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 5, 2022 11:21 am

In my experience, doctors are reluctant to address the vax/booster issue when heart issues are raised.
In my opinion, they are hoping for the issue to go away.
That includes, my GP (but at least he’s engaged), emergency room staff and the three specialists I’ve seen since March.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 5, 2022 11:26 am

Very weird that every digital footprint about this schizophrenic suspect is being rapidly and systematically scrubbed from the internet

Was there the usual eruption of outrage against the NRA and White Supremacists when they found out the shooter was white, only later to have to start to reel their transports or fury back in as it comes out that the guy was socialist or a Democrat (BIRM) or had an internet page where he talks about killing Republican and Christians and Trump and whatever?

Or have they finally learned to be more circumspect?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 5, 2022 11:28 am

Is Amex still going?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 5, 2022 11:31 am

shatterzzzsays:
July 5, 2022 at 10:40 am
I know we all think our kids are wonderful but mine are extraordinary.
Out of 4 “houso” kids only my middle daughter was a “minor’ worry .. unlike her siblings, 2 sisters & brother, she was as “hard as nails” and reacted like a “hammer” when crossed .. at 14 she was a tom-boy, gang leader and a walking terror of both the school and surrounding streets .. the local ethnic “wannabes” even crossed the road when she appeared ..
Strangely enuf, she luvved school, especially HS, never a day off unless absolutely necessary and had the outgoing personality that wun over everyone except those that crossed her ( a definite “white” supremist .. LOL!}
She was also a talented gymnast .. won a NSW State Schools Age title for trampoline at 13 .. but like lotza kids street-life, at the time, appealed more than the rigours of training .. fortunately. as time wore on nothing untoward crept in .. as far as I know she didn’t do drugs (not that I ever knew!) but I had to pick her up from the plod shop for underage drinking a coupla times ..

No doubt she she saw how you lived your life and it rubbed off. I think its the everyday things that influence kids, being there for them just to be there and being active with them. Consistency and responsibility seem to be lacking in the last couple of generations. My grandson, nearly 2 has some jobs already. Feeding the dogs and loading the washing machine. Throws a tantrum if he can’t do it. They have a pocket handkerchief garden but grow lots of vege. How many kids even know how vege are grown.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 5, 2022 11:31 am

Up the Workers! said…
O/T, but just saw an interesting stat.

On 22 Feb, 2021, the first Covid vaccinations in Australia commenced.

On that date, the TOTAL number of Covid deaths in Australia was exactly 909.

Since that date, some 9,130 more deaths have occurred, bringing the total Australian Covid deaths up to today’s total of 10,039.

So that is 909 deaths BEFORE vaccines became available, and a further 9,130 deaths SINCE vaccines became available.

miltonf
miltonf
July 5, 2022 11:31 am

10-20 years ago certain professional organisations offered a fee free Amex card as part of your membership.

Mater
July 5, 2022 11:33 am

In my experience, doctors are reluctant to address the vax/booster issue when heart issues are raised.

Yep.
A while back I went into GP to get pain medication for another issue. Being new to this particular practice, he gave me the Spanish Inquisition about every detail of my medical history and took copious notes on the computer. At the end, I told him I was having chest pains and sporadic heart flutters.

Instantaneously he stated categorically, “it’s got nothing to do with the vaccine!”. Not one note was taken for the additional point, not even that I was having chest pains. He didn’t listen to my chest, or do a BP test. Completely kiboshed the second part of the consultation. It’s as though it never happened.

The medical fraternity are a disgrace on this issue.

Vicki
Vicki
July 5, 2022 11:39 am

Bourne 1879- when you think about it – pollies, technocrats, media have too much invested, in every sense of the word, to comfortably pull back from the vaccine belief system.

In the US, at least, & I think maybe in the UK & a few other places, the whole edifice is being threatened by legal action. This is, many believe, the only way the vaccine conveyor belt can be stopped. But they will fight tooth & nail, of course. To stop leading medical practitioners testifying against them, they are commencing deregistration of licence to practice. This had already commenced against cardiologist Dr Peter McCullough & the pulmonary specialist Dr Pierre Kory.

Perhaps the most important current case is being pursued by Pfizer/ventaxia senior RCT administrator whistleblower for wrongful dismissal after she disclosed breaches of regulations in the Pfizer trials.

I thought that the insurance companies might sue the Pharma companies for losses incurred because of fraudulent data – but doesn’t seem to have eventuated yet.

But then most of us have always known that it was the challenge of the century to stop these scoundrels.

rosie
rosie
July 5, 2022 11:39 am

Australia simply isn’t influential enough for Overseasy to be swanning around this much.

Albanese’s overseas travel comes under scrutiny from Opposition, with Tehan saying the number of trips are ‘concerning’

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 5, 2022 11:41 am

‘Hell on earth’: Ukrainian soldiers describe eastern front

BAKHMUT, Ukraine (AP) — Torched forests and cities burned to the ground. Colleagues with severed limbs. Bombardments so relentless the only option is to lie in a trench, wait and pray.

Ukrainian soldiers returning from the front lines in eastern Ukraine’s Donbas region — where Russia is waging a fierce offensive — describe life during what has turned into a grueling war of attrition as apocalyptic.

In interviews with The Associated Press, some complained of chaotic organization, desertions and mental health problems caused by relentless shelling. Others spoke of high morale, their colleagues’ heroism, and a commitment to keep fighting, even as the better-equipped Russians control more of the combat zone.

Lt. Volodymyr Nazarenko, 30, second-in-command of the Ukrainian National Guard’s Svoboda Battalion, was with troops who retreated from Sievierodonetsk under orders from military leaders. During a month-long battle, Russian tanks obliterated any potential defensive positions and turned a city with a prewar population of 101,000 into “a burnt-down desert,” he said.

“They shelled us every day. I do not want to lie about it. But these were barrages of ammunition at every building,” Nazarenko said. “The city was methodically leveled out.”

“On the TV, they are showing beautiful pictures of the front lines, the solidarity, the army, but the reality is very different” he said, adding he does not think the delivery of more Western weapons would change the course of the war.

A senior presidential aide reported last month that 100 to 200 Ukrainian troops were dying every day, but the country has not provided the total number killed in action. Oleksiy claimed his unit lost 150 men during its first three days of fighting, many from a loss of blood.

Due to the relentless bombardments, wounded soldiers were only evacuated at night, and sometimes they had to wait up to two days, he said.

“The commanders don’t care if you are psychologically broken. If you have a working heart, if you have arms and legs, you have to go back in,” he added.

rosie
rosie
July 5, 2022 11:43 am

“The average Perth home buyer can borrow $51,000 less to buy a home than two months ago, and that will worsen with the Reserve Bank tipped to lift rates another 25 to 50 basis points on Tuesday.”
the caps are getting lower

cohenite
July 5, 2022 11:43 am

Good Windschuttle article about the lie of the Welcome to Country bullshit:

The Breaking Up: Australia’s history since 1788
2h ·
Sacred Traditions Invented Yesterday
4th July 2022
Keith Windschuttle
[Excerpts only – refer link for more information
]
In 2012 I wrote an article criticising the undeservedly flattering obituaries published on the death of the English Marxist historian Eric Hobsbawm. However, I omitted to mention the best piece of writing Hobsbawm ever produced. The Invention of Tradition, a book he co-edited in 1983, has gone through eleven reprints and is still in print forty years later. Hobsbawm, his co-editor Terence Ranger and four other historians presented essays that demonstrated many social and cultural traditions popularly assumed to be hundreds or even thousands of years old were actually invented in the modern era for shrewd political purposes. In a world transformed by the industrial revolution in Europe and by imperialism abroad, ruling elites invented rituals, ceremonies and cultural traditions to help mould the behaviour of their subjects to new environments.
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Then, as now, he argued, it was essential to understand and demystify these tactics so that socialists and liberal progressives could overcome such ritualistic appeals to irrationalism and superstition, and let the light of reason shine through.
Yet in modern Australia, the political Left has taken the opposite turn. Wherever Labor governments have gained power in recent decades they have made it compulsory for every government instrumentality, and many independent organisations they fund, to begin every public meeting with a cere­monial acknowledgement of something very ancient and certainly not progressive: the welcome to country of Aboriginal traditional landowners.
This ritual is now so ubiquitous it is virtually inescapable, from the opening of writers’ festivals, to art exhibitions, academic conferences, school assemblies and functions at the ABC, indeed anywhere those in the public sector gather. Since 2006, the standing orders of the New South Wales Parliament require each sitting day to open with the incantation:
We acknowledge the traditional owners, the Gadigal people of the Eora nation. We also acknowledge the traditional owners of the lands we represent and thank them for their custodianship of country.
The ritual is now performed far more frequently than singing the national anthem or raising of the Australian flag. It was surreptitiously introduced by academic and government bureaucracies without any public debate, let alone public support, and its authors have never been named or their purposes justified. Nonetheless, since the passing of the Native Title Act in 1993, it has been foisted on a mystified public as though it had the sanction of deep indigenous tradition.
Wikipedia, where the entry is mostly written by commentators who brook no opposition, claims the welcome to country is “thousands of years” old. The site nonetheless has only been able to trace any evidence for the ceremony back to 1973. This was its appearance at an Aquarius Festival at the hippie centre of Nimbin, northern New South Wales. That sounds right – the dope-addicted, tertiary-educated, white bohemians of Nimbin would find it no trouble to invent an Aboriginal ceremony to complement their psychedelic fantasies, and to claim it as an inheritance of millennia.
I never knew of the ritual until 1996 when it appeared at a conference of the Centre for Cross-Cultural Studies of the Australian National University. The conference was held at James Cook University, Cairns, and its organisers roped in two women elders from the local community to receive the acknowledgement of country at the opening session. The women looked embarrassed at being the centre of so much attention, and declined to participate in any ritual, or even to speak to those assembled. So the white academics from the ANU Centre had to do it all by themselves. Some of the other local Aboriginal participants later told me the ceremony was new to them too, and was not part of any culture they’d ever heard about.
As the Northern Territory MP, the traditional Walpiri woman Bess Price, later told a reporter from the Australian, these cere­monies were not meaningful to traditional people. “We don’t do that in communities,” she said. “It’s just a recent thing. It’s just people who are trying to grapple at something they believe should be traditional.”
Moreover, rather than being a symbol of reconciliation, many of its utterances are, on any objective assessment, disrespectful. Most of those who make them never take the trouble to discover the actual name of the local clan but simply acknowledge nameless “elders” or “the traditional owners”. I have heard this so many times by so many people that it is probably unfair to single out Maurice Newman, chairman of the ABC during the five years I was on its board. Over this time, at only one of the many public functions where he performed this ritual (at Broome) did he ever mention the name of the local clan. Indeed, at one ABC staff function in Brisbane he acknowledged the traditional owners “whoever they are”. To any genuine Aboriginal elder, the real message of such treatment is that the speaker’s sentiments are not sincere.
In other cases, the ritual can be even more insulting when the speaker gets the name of the local group wrong. From 2001 to 2007, when he presided over graduation ceremonies, the Chancellor of the University of Sydney, Justice Kim Santow, routinely acknowledged the Eora people as the traditional owners of the land on which the university stood. However, the real name of the original local clan was not Eora but Cadigal. Moreover, had Santow consulted the writings of Australia’s most scholarly linguist on this topic, Arthur Capell (a former anthropologist at his own university), he would have found that “Eora” was not even the name of a clan or social unit but the local word for “people” (Oceania, 41, 1970, 20–27). Hence, throughout his tenure, Justice Santow had been welcoming graduands and their parents to the land of the People people.
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In February 2008, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd opened the forty-second Australian Parliament by hosting a welcoming ceremony by the traditional Aboriginal owners, the Ngunnawal people. I have been to plenty of functions in Canberra that staged welcome-to-country ceremonies and/or acknowledgements of traditional owners. In all cases where names were given, the Ngunnawal people were credited as the true landowners. In his 1974 book The Aboriginal Tribes of Australia, the anthropologist Norman Tindale provided a map that showed the southern boundary of this group contained the land on which Parliament House now stands. At the time, Tindale’s book was the most authoritative on tribal boundaries.
However, in 2001 Ann Jackson-Nakano wrote The Kamberri: A History of Aboriginal Families in the ACT and Surrounds.
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She discovered that modern usage of the name Ngunnawal did not come from Aboriginal tradition but from a park in the town of Bowning, near Yass, named by white people as Ngunnawal Park. A sign bearing that name was erected at the park in the 1960s, dedicated to Aboriginal people of the Yass district who the townspeople thought had died out in 1848. Some locals who identified as Aboriginal subsequently saw the sign and adopted it as their username.
Jackson-Nakano argues the traditional owners of the land where Parliament House stands, and indeed most of the ACT, are the Kamberri people, after whom the first white landowner, Joshua John Moore, named his land grant in 1824.
If she is right — and her book is the most thorough analysis of the subject — then the Australian Parliament was acknowledging the wrong people, or at the very least using the wrong name for whoever actually qualifies as the descendants of the local Aboriginal people. This is hardly a show of respect for Aboriginal people, as its originators claimed. For those with Kamberri genes, it’s an insult by omission.
Today, in 2022, the Parliament has rectified the situation but has only got things partly right. It now includes both Kamberri and Ngunnawal names in its ceremony, despite the latter’s dubious claim to authenticity.
If Australian leftists want to continue inventing Aboriginal traditions, they obviously need to lift the quality of their research. In fact, we would all be better off if they gave away the whole tawdry game. Most of the white dignitaries who speak these rites are merely going through the motions and, as Bess Price says, genuine Aborigines don’t recognise them as part of their own traditions. No one can seriously claim they contribute to inter-racial respect or reconciliation.
The truth is, the welcome to country is a demeaning ritual, embraced by urban Aboriginal activists and their white supporters for the same reasons Hobsbawm attributes to the authoritarians and social engineers of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries: to mould the behaviour of their subjects to the preferred political position through “liturgical sophistication and zeal and a conscious manipulation of symbols”.

Vicki
Vicki
July 5, 2022 11:48 am

Re refusal of GPS to discuss vax “events” – this is a no brainer. They have all been warned by the AMA & the fate of Dr Mark Hobart was a well publicised example to those who dated publicly defy the new rules of state dictated medical prognoses & treatment – for that is what it is.

It is pretty much only the retired GPS or the ones about to retire who will risk all for the truth and their professional integrity.

Even so, we have a retired doctor friend (& he was a good doctor) who refuses to believe that the vaccines would have been released if they were not certain of their safety! Go figure.

rosie
rosie
July 5, 2022 11:50 am

I remember back when interest rates were always above 10% we moved twice because houses were pretty cheap. Iirc when they hit 17/18 percent we were down to a mortgage of $15,000.
Peanuts.

Vicki
Vicki
July 5, 2022 11:55 am

Yep Rosie – remember those days well. Yet somehow we managed to pay off our mortgage & even manage business overdrafts of 22%!!!!

rosie
rosie
July 5, 2022 11:56 am

I overhead a working from home family member’s aboriginal prayer intro to a very brief zoom meeting yesterday.
Another child told me the earbuds tended to fall out for that part of the meeting, which is mandatory.
Embarrassing useless waste of time.
But considering what the meetings usually appear to discuss no worse than the rest I’ve ever heard snippets of.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 5, 2022 11:56 am

miltonfsays:

July 5, 2022 at 11:31 am

10-20 years ago certain professional organisations offered a fee free Amex card as part of your membership.

I once took up a similar offer from Visa.
“Lifetime fee-free membership”.
A few years later a fee pops up.
I raised the “free for life” thing.
Guess what.
That wasn’t my life.
It was for the life of the offer.
FMD.
I managed to badger them into waiving the fees for a couple of years, but then they dug in.
I couldn’t find the original offer letter otherwise I would have gone harder.

Vicki
Vicki
July 5, 2022 12:00 pm

Oh yeah – & I can remember how. When we were first married it was actually Vegemite or honey at the supermarket – we finished one before buying the other! Pizza Hut was a special night out!!!!

And life was good.

Goanna
Goanna
July 5, 2022 12:05 pm

Struth.

More lefties have taken jabs than right wingers, so nothing is new in the world

The collective was an easy target for mass formation psychosis.

rosie
rosie
July 5, 2022 12:05 pm

Of course back then there were no smashed avocado on sourdough and flat whites to tempt us.
Remember thinking wonderful it was to leave home and choose my own food.
No more cooked celery or boiled cabbage and cauliflower.
Yeah!
Ended up ham and cheese sandwiches most workdays and way too much spaghetti bolognese for dinners.
Had a strong aversion to being in debt, more important than enjoying exotic cuisine.

shatterzzz
July 5, 2022 12:13 pm

No doubt she she saw how you lived your life and it rubbed off.
After the break-up and I had the kids to look after in this drug addled, lawless HC estate I decided that “being there” before & after school was a sight more important than leaving them latch-key kids sitting in the gutter like a lot around here .. I couldn’t do much about the environment we existed in but I could ensure they were fed, clothed and always had someone available if necessary ..
It seems to have worked .. 4 kids, the 3 eldest all millionaires, own their own homes and two owned & ran businesses .. the middle daughter (mentioned earlier) saw the BAT FLU writing on the wall early and realised her outdoor photography (weddings, family, babies ect) wouldn’t survive and so closed up and became a stay-at-home mum (SiL has a well paying job) .. the eldest girl has survived BAT FLU and her enterprise (take-away/restaurant) is thriving .. again! .. my son is an IT executive, whilst the youngest is now restaurant manager for her elder sister …
The only “houso” left is Dad tho not from lack of offers to live with family but cos Its been my life for so long now I’m comfortable with it .. LOL!

Vicki
Vicki
July 5, 2022 12:13 pm

I will admit that the less regulatory environment five decades ago allowed us to gain equity in our home far far earlier than is now possible.

Husband and I borrowed to purchase a block of land & then had our own house design drawn up. It was designed to be built in three split level stages. So, having built the garage/family room/bathroom cum laundry & temporary kitchen – we moved in without final Council approval. We built stages 2&3 as the cash became available. By the time the house was completed, we owned it outright.

We then borrowed against it to start a business. The rest is history. But you can’t do that today in this over regulated society.

Mater
July 5, 2022 12:15 pm

The big problem is young women. So many young women are now fully indoctrinated into the woke progressive nonsense that screams “women can have penises”, “men can have babies” and “individuals with a cervix”.

Ironically, it’ll be these very same young people, who are much more likely to be in heavy debt, are the one that will most feel the effects of the economic storm clouds that are building, as a result of stupid government policies.

When I point this out to people, the response is:
“It’s ok, the government will step in before it gets too bad. They can’t let that many people go to the wall!”

This will not end well.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 5, 2022 12:16 pm

The young white male far right shooter narrative may have just hit a snag, and yes, it’s already the tut tut description being used by young white female reporters in Australia. Racism is journalism now.
Take a look at this freak. He’s looks mostly white and young but coloured in like an Antifa looney.

https://www.9news.com.au/world/chicago-fourth-of-july-shooting-at-least-six-dead/acad8061-87eb-4c80-ab2b-dee9133fdecf

We shall see I suppose.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 5, 2022 12:18 pm

Anyone able to show what Judith is saying in the OZ?

Powering ahead on renewables, and damn the high costs

As Europe turns towards coal-fired power it’s all systems go here for even more investment in renewable energy. Get ready for more blackouts and even higher electricity prices.

Judith Sloan

Vicki
Vicki
July 5, 2022 12:18 pm

BTW we lived in that house for over 20 years before trying a brief stint of inner city terrace living (too “in your face” for me) & then to the house where we live today on Middle Harbour locale.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 5, 2022 12:19 pm

feelthebernsays:
July 5, 2022 at 8:40 am
Australia’s defence concerns should be 100% regional.
And I mean our neck of the woods only.

Since before Federation, the Australian defence debate has swung between the Imperialists (now internationalists) and the Nationalists.

Labor used to be on the Nationalists, not so much now. The prospect of a post-politics job with the UN is too attractive.

areff
areff
July 5, 2022 12:23 pm

Twitter thread on Highland Park shooter being a Trump supporter … or not.

Interesting pics.

Of course, it would be perfectly normal for a MAGA sort to shoot up a parade on July 4. Not.

https://twitter.com/_maxgranger/status/1544093061935816704

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 5, 2022 12:24 pm

Farmer Gezsays:
July 5, 2022 at 12:16 pm
The young white male far right shooter narrative may have just hit a snag, and yes, it’s already the tut tut description being used by young white female reporters in Australia. Racism is journalism now.
Take a look at this freak. He’s looks mostly white and young but coloured in like an Antifa looney.

https://www.9news.com.au/world/chicago-fourth-of-july-shooting-at-least-six-dead/acad8061-87eb-4c80-ab2b-dee9133fdecf

We shall see I suppose.

And Not Mention the 15 Killed in Chicago that same weekend before the Highland 6

shatterzzz
July 5, 2022 12:25 pm

“Lifetime fee-free membership”.
I still have my original lease (30 years ago) from the NSW Housing Commission which, basically, sez .. the property is yours as long as you pay the rent or until you choose to relinguish it .. no if’s or but’s conditions other than arrears/looking after the place involved ….
I’m guessing very few tenants would be able to produce this piece of paper nowadays or even Housing to have a copy .. long before computer records became the norm … LOL!

Kneel
Kneel
July 5, 2022 12:31 pm

“Glad I never (or ever will get jabbed) got jabbed.”

Not sure that’ll “save” you John – those of us deemed “essential” didn’t get the opportunity to sit at home sucking on the GovCo teet, it was either get jabbed or lose the job and no benefits for you, fella-me-lad.
So if we all keel over, say goodbye to most medical, logistics, electricity, gas, water, fuel etc etc workers. That might be more than a little inconvenient, eh?

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 5, 2022 12:32 pm

Diogenes

When I was an OR we used to refer to “giving birth to an officer”, I will leave it to reader to work out what we were actually doing :-).

A fart was often greeted with the response “Keep calling Sir, we’ll find you”.

shatterzzz
July 5, 2022 12:33 pm

Chicago authorities have gone into a tizz over how a “whitey” got hold of a gun ..
“Cultural appropriation!” squealed Mayor Lori Lightfoot, “Everyone knows only blacks are allowed to possess and use guns whenever they feel like it in Chicago” ……….!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 5, 2022 12:33 pm

Listeners desert Virginia Trioli’s ABC radio show

Sophie Elsworth
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ABC Melbourne’s morning show host Virginia Trioli has suffered the largest ratings fall of any radio program in the Victorian capital, losing almost a quarter of her audience during the recent election campaign and its aftermath.

Trioli, who also shares hosting duties on ABC’s Thursday night chat show Q+A, saw her listenership share drop 1.9 percentage points this survey period — which ran from April 17 through to June 25 — leaving her in fifth position in her timeslot with an audience share of 7.5 per cent, down from 9.4.

It is the second big slump in Trioli’s ratings this year — in the first ratings survey of the year, the Melburnian’s audience share slipped by 4.4 percentage points.

Trioli’s main rival, 3AW’s Neil Mitchell, grew his audience by 1.5 percentage points from 17.5 to 19 to remain in top spot in the timeslot.

3AW’s breakfast show, hosted by Ross Stevenson and Russel Howcroft, also registered a ratings jump, up by 0.3 percentage points from 19.1 to 19.4; Gold104.3’s Christian O’Connell remains in second spot.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 5, 2022 12:35 pm

Quo Vadis, America?

We have become a country ruled in many public and most major private institutions by people who hate its founding ideals, who hate its traditional liberties and moral norms, who hate the race of the majority of people in this country and who wish to stir up racial hatred among us, who hate orthodox forms of the religion of a majority of its people, and who are busy destroying the pillars of national life and cleansing the memories of the next generation so they will forget what America ever was. One party promotes this, and the other party is too cowardly or otherwise disengaged to defend their own country’s traditions. The business class is all in on celebrating decadence. The military-industrial complex and the foreign policy elites want to spread it throughout the West. The light unto the nations has turned itself into the neon filaments of the trans strippers’ neon.

What is it going to take to make America great again? It’s not going to be politics alone.

In 2020, I wrote about this phenomenon — that is, of the future of the nation depending on strong families, and how we are busy sabotaging that. Excerpt:

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 5, 2022 12:35 pm

m0ntysays:
July 5, 2022 at 9:41 am
So the Cat is today railing against *checks notes* Grace Tame and fixed terms. Right.

What is the latest from the House Un-American Activities Committee m0nty-fa?

calli
calli
July 5, 2022 12:35 pm

When I point this out to people, the response is:
“It’s ok, the government will step in before it gets too bad. They can’t let that many people go to the wall!”

Mater, that was my point early this morning. The tipping point has come and gone – what influence actual conservatives have is waning. Even those who claim to represent us are going soft left, because that’s where the votes are.

It wasn’t an admission of defeat (I’m riding this sucker to the bottom) but reality.

Your comment about the doctor is very disturbing. I hope you have changed docs.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 5, 2022 12:35 pm

Of course, it would be perfectly normal for a MAGA sort to shoot up a parade on July 4. Not.

Doesn’t fit but we don’t know the mind of this pathetic creature yet.
He’ll be called evil and whatever epithet they rubber stamp on the culprit to avoid deeper questions. Two days of name calling won’t stop the next shooter.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 5, 2022 12:35 pm

rosiesays:

July 5, 2022 at 11:43 am

“The average Perth home buyer can borrow $51,000 less to buy a home than two months ago, and that will worsen with the Reserve Bank tipped to lift rates another 25 to 50 basis points on Tuesday

I note the headline talks about lower borrowing limits being a “hip pocket hit”.
Buried in the article is reference to higher interest rates pushing house prices down.
So, in summary:-
“You can borrow less, but will need less. Interest rates might be higher, but lower borrowings will mean repayments won’tbe affected much”.
Also needed a declaration on the article about the publisher (Domain) having a vested interest in property turnover.

Kneel
Kneel
July 5, 2022 12:39 pm

“I have no time,
for poems that rhyme.”

Then be of good cheer,
They’re rarely here.

Mater
July 5, 2022 12:39 pm

Your comment about the doctor is very disturbing. I hope you have changed docs.

Done.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 5, 2022 12:39 pm

NSW Chief Health Officer Kerry Chant has urged people to “disregard anything we said about two doses” providing protection against COVID-19.

Chant says the next virus wave is here and has implored people to get vaccinated with all doses available to them.

She stresses existing vaccines provide excellent protection against severe illness and death, but not infection from omicron itself.

“My message to everyone is disregard anything we said about two doses; it’s three doses or more.

“As ATAGI continues to watch the evidence, they might broaden the criterion (for a fourth dose). It’s important that you keep engaged with those messages and know if you’re eligible for further vaccines.”

calli
calli
July 5, 2022 12:41 pm

Can we simply disregard Kerry Chant and cut out the Middle Man?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 5, 2022 12:42 pm

Que? – NSW hopes COVID-19 antivirals to be made more widely available

On antiviral medication, Brad Hazzard says they are currently limited in their usage for a number of reasons including supply.

He hopes the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation will advise the Albanese government to make antivirals more accessible to a broader age group.

Chief Health Officer Kerry Chant, speaking alongside Hazzard, expects the latest surge in COVID-19 cases to lead to a similar number of people in hospitals to January.

“We predict that hospitalised patients levels will be similar to in January. There’s lots of other viruses such as flu and RSV. So that’s also a difference from what was occurring in January where we hadn’t seen those that uptick in flu and RSV at that time.”

calli
calli
July 5, 2022 12:42 pm

Amazing that they’re looking at “evidence” now. But only the right kind of evidence…the sort that suits the narrative.

Baby steps.

Also…why is it always fuggly old bats who insist on mask mandates? I can’t imagine why.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 5, 2022 12:45 pm

You’re crazy if you’re not fully vaccinated: Hazzard

More than 1200 people who weren’t up-to-date with their COVID-19 vaccinations have died in NSW so far this year.

NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard said BA.4 and BA.5 variants were increasingly able to evade vaccinations, but it was still important to remain up-to-date to prevent severe illness and death.

“These rather pesky little variants are quite intelligent, and they’re working their way around the current vaccines to an extent,” he said.

“But what we do know is that we’re fully vaccinated, we’re far less likely to get as ill and far less likely to die.

“If you had two, for example, or one, and you haven’t had your full three, to put it bluntly, you’re crazy.”

So far this year, he said 1232 people not up-to-date with their vaccines had died from complications related to the virus.

Hazzard said busyness was not an excuse to not be fully vaccinated and urged people to continue to wash their hands and wear masks in situations where social distancing wasn’t possible.

Old bloke
Old bloke
July 5, 2022 12:49 pm

dover0beach says:
July 5, 2022 at 8:31 am

It’s getting pretty spice in Holland. Is this getting any coverage on our MSM?

About the same as the Canadian truckers, i.e., bugger all.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 5, 2022 12:51 pm

Can Brad health Hazzard please present himself to my place of residence so I can shove his head up his own arse. This bloke is too stupid to be the village idiot, more Sydney sized idiot.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 5, 2022 12:51 pm

Russia is about to go into full industrial mobilisation, either planning to continue once the whole of donbass falls or preparing for nato involvement

Vlad Bae’s minions haven’t been paying Russian companies for the work they’ve been doing in fixing the Russian Army’s broken vehicles (those that they can recover, of course), refurbishing others for combat and making and transporting weapons and other logistical support.

Since some have threatened the Russian Government with no more work until they start seeing paycheques, the Duma passed laws dictating that Russian companies must carry out all works given to them and honour their contracts regardless of whether they get paid or not.

Enforced pseudo-nationalisation to persist with a ‘Speshul’ Military Operation that the most ardent supporting voices within are convinced will fail in its present guise, despite all the internet Vatniks’ and moskals’ (like Dover’s Russians With Attitude) predictions to the contrary.

Especially also, that aside from the frustrations of the heroic liberators themselves,* the average Russian is starting to sound less confident about the whole thing than their fluffers on Twitter.

But Vlad Bae remains a master strategist. I’m sure he can still pull a ‘Goodwill Gesture’ or two out of his ushanka before his own folks decide to De-Nazify him

(* Old mate sounds like he’s in the south. Where that offensive that the vatniks all resolutely tell us hasn’t and isn’t happening is now getting perilously close to Kherson. I mean, Melitopol and Chornobaivka airports randomly started exploding in the last 48-72hr, and I’m pretty sure the liberators didn’t suddenly get sloppy with their ammo and fuel storage and handling procedures…)

#It’sAllAFeint!

Old bloke
Old bloke
July 5, 2022 12:52 pm

Surrender of Lord Cornwallis, John Trumbull, 1820

Didn’t Cornwallis attempt to surrender to the French rather than Washington?

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 5, 2022 12:53 pm

Old Ozzie beat me to it with the post about Hazzard and Chant. Note no comments allowed at Tele or CM where also posted

Yet another push before the decision tomorrow.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 5, 2022 12:54 pm

Judith Sloan on the money:

The idea of each participating state and the ACT being able to specify their energy sources within a capacity mechanism could potentially sound the death knell for the NEM. After all, an electron is an electron however sourced and there are interconnectors between participants. In other words, this idea makes no sense at all. The only conclusion to draw is that the NEM is a complete mess and there is a strong likelihood that its performance may decline even further. The idea that we require even more renewables investment – a sevenfold increase, in fact – has to be assessed against the highly subsidised investment that has already occurred.

As the ESB notes, “since 2012, more than 90 per cent of investment in electricity generation in the eastern states has been in wind and solar. And, in per capita terms, Australia has the highest rate of renewable grid-scale generation in the world. It’s about 10 times the world average.”

Without dispatchable power, we are heading in the direction of possible blackouts and load-shedding and even higher electricity prices. The Europeans have woken up this fact; we are just late on the scene. By the time it is fully recognised that we have taken the wrong turn, it will be a long, painful and expensive process to rectify the problems.

Oz

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 5, 2022 12:57 pm

If the law, corporates, and education pushes back young women will follow

This is true, but… we are where we are because young women ‘pushed back’ and the law, corporates and education followed.

I know I’m not the first to say this, but it bears repeating – remember when we thought the crazy Millennials would graduate from their gender studies courses and the realities of life would slap the stupid ideologies out of them? Boy were we wrong. They graduated and made the stupid ideologies realities of life.

calli
calli
July 5, 2022 12:57 pm

These rather pesky little variants are quite intelligent

A virus more intelligent than the Health Minister.

Odd words to use if the thing is so deadly.

He’s a liar or stupid or both.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 5, 2022 1:08 pm
Lysander
Lysander
July 5, 2022 1:11 pm

Completely OT but had a good chat with Doc friend and he was saying he’s increasingly finding WA health system employing overseas doctors (some with “impressive resumes”) who don’t know how to do the most basic of procedures.

Compounding the systemic failure across WA Health, a new generation of Aussie doctors are asking to work 8 hour days, four day weeks, not weekends, not nights etc… and once their shift is done, they bolt for the door and don’t worry about basic things like handovers…

Was interesting and scary at the same time!!!

The problem is that when government does a review of Health, it always recommends more government.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 5, 2022 1:11 pm

Brisbane, Cairns experience coldest day in 20 years

Cairns and Brisbane experienced their coldest July days in more than two decades on Monday, the Bureau of Meteorology says.

It said maximum temperatures on Monday were between 8C and 13C below average, while eastern and northeastern areas receive record daily July rainfall.

John Sheldrick
July 5, 2022 1:13 pm

This will not end well.

They do not known what a full blown Recession is but they soon will do and learn the hard way.

Zipster
Zipster
July 5, 2022 1:13 pm

Without dispatchable power, we are heading in the direction of possible blackouts and load-shedding and even higher electricity prices. The Europeans have woken up this fact; we are just late on the scene

who could have predicted that unreliable power is… unreliable

we are governed by corrupt morons

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 5, 2022 1:15 pm

Twitter thread on Highland Park shooter being a Trump supporter … or not.

Interesting pics.

The Twit claiming he’s obviously MAGA because he was photographed wearing a Pepe t-shirt and also at what appears to be a Trump rally is either not very observant or is dissembling. The tee with Pepe on it is mocking the Proud Boys, and at the Trump rally he’s dressed as Waldo (or Wally for us in Oz) from the Where’s Waldo book series.

What does this mean regarding his ideological perspective? I’m not sure, but if he’s MAGA, he sure has a weird way of showing it based on these photos. Frankly, he looks like a nutter first and foremost.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 5, 2022 1:19 pm

And for all the based Russians’ apparent attraction to folks for their traditional values, they seem to have been pretty uncaring towards those in the Donbass they allegedly invaded 8 years ago to ‘save…’

https://wartranslated.com/russian-blogger-who-reported-on-the-35th-army-says-mobilised-d-lpr-militias-died-senselessly/

Judge Dredd
Judge Dredd
July 5, 2022 1:21 pm

More data on declining birth rates, this time analysis of Swedens birth rates.
It might not be the vax, but we know it was the vax.
Further – even the mainstream admit the vax accumulates in reproductive organs.
Let’s pray it’s not permanent, but certainly the elites regularly discuss reducing the population, and lo and behold here it is.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/swedish-birth-rate-data-what-does

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 5, 2022 1:21 pm

Sydney floods and where is our Prime Minister?

He’s been gallivanting around the world while our country drowns. Where’s the media outcry?

Its not fair, our PMs should staying the country, gee a few years ago Australia was burning and our then PM was on holidays, oh the audacity of our PM’s.

Stay in the country and we’ll be all right, dontcha just know it. They can fix climate change just by being here.

Elbow has been doing “Entente Cordiale”

John Sheldrick
July 5, 2022 1:23 pm

OldOzziesays:
July 5, 2022 at 12:45 pm
You’re crazy if you’re not fully vaccinated: Hazzard

More than 1200 people who weren’t up-to-date with their COVID-19 vaccinations have died in NSW so far this year.

Very happy to be crazy and alive. Hazzard by name and hazard by nature. What this bloke knows about health, you could write a book (wash your hands, etc.). What he doesn’t know about health, you could fill a ‘far king’ 10 storey Library.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 5, 2022 1:27 pm

Coldest July temps in 56 years in parts of Qld

Queensland has shivered through one of its coldest days in years, with more in store today.

Large parts of the state endured an extremely cold Monday by local standards, with maximum temperatures at some locations the lowest in 56 years for July, and the lowest in almost 17 years for any month.

What’s truly remarkable about Queensland’s current cold spell is how widespread the chill is.

A sample of Monday’s chilly maximums included:

. Toowoomba 7.6°C (coldest in 11 years)

. Dalby 9.7°C (coldest in 15 years)

. Bundaberg 12°C (coldest in 17 years and coldest July max in 56 years)

. Yeppoon 12.5°C (coldest in 15 years and coldest July day in 28 years of records)

. Gympie 13°C (coldest in 15 years)

. Brisbane 14.2°C (coldest July max in 22 years)

. Lady Elliot Island 14.8°C (coldest in 15 years, and noteworthy as it’s the southernmost tiny coral island of the Great Barrier Reef)

. Townsville 15.1°C (coldest in 15 years)

Cairns 21.4°C (coldest July max in 23 years)

shatterzzz
July 5, 2022 1:29 pm

Completely OT but had a good chat with Doc friend and he was saying he’s increasingly finding WA health system employing overseas doctors (some with “impressive resumes”) who don’t know how to do the most basic of procedures.

I was under the impression that O/S doctors qualifications weren’t recpgnized in Oz until they passed the relevant Oz quackticians level exam or whatever standard(s) we have ..

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 5, 2022 1:30 pm

Why would you get a booster for a strain that has already surpassed what the booster was developed for?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 5, 2022 1:30 pm

another ian
July 5, 2022 at 1:14 pm · Reply
And so it goes

“Facing Defeat in Lysychansk Ukraine Military Retreats, Russia Takes Full Control of Eastern Ukraine Region of Luhansk
July 4, 2022 | Sundance | 123 Comments”

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/07/04/facing-defeat-in-lysychansk-ukraine-military-retreats-russia-takes-full-control-of-eastern-ukraine-region-of-luhansk/#more-234808

John Sheldrick
July 5, 2022 1:31 pm

OldOzziesays:
July 5, 2022 at 12:39 pm
NSW Chief Health Officer Kerry Chant has urged people to “disregard anything we said about two doses” providing protection against COVID-19.

Chant says the next virus wave is here and has implored people to get vaccinated with all doses available to them.

She stresses existing vaccines provide excellent protection against severe illness and death, but not infection from omicron itself.

“My message to everyone is disregard anything we said about two doses; it’s three doses or more.

“As ATAGI continues to watch the evidence, they might broaden the criterion (for a fourth dose). It’s important that you keep engaged with those messages and know if you’re eligible for further vaccines.”

Get Farked you stupid stupid Old Bat. You are talking out of your arse as usual.

Lysander
Lysander
July 5, 2022 1:37 pm

I was under the impression that O/S doctors qualifications weren’t recpgnized in Oz until they passed the relevant Oz quackticians level exam or whatever standard(s) we have ..

Yes that’s true Shatterz. But seems they’re somehow still getting through.

Eyrie
Eyrie
July 5, 2022 1:38 pm

Stunning amount of wind power being delivered right now in Queensland. Like SFA.
Not a lot of solar either.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 5, 2022 1:40 pm

Eyriesays:
July 5, 2022 at 1:38 pm
Stunning amount of wind power being delivered right now in Queensland. Like SFA.
Not a lot of solar either.

Warning signs as Qld power climbs back towards cap

Wild swings in Queensland’s wholesale power prices have revived the risk of caps being imposed that could trigger the same crisis in the National Electricity Market that caused an unprecedented nine-day suspension of the market last month.

Market analysts warned that sustained periods of prices at nearly $10,000 a megawatt-hour and above through Monday afternoon and another spike early on Tuesday meant the running seven-day total of wholesale prices in the state was again nearing a threshold that would automatically trigger a $300/MWh cap.

Based on forecast prices, the threshold could be breached on Tuesday evening, triggering the cap, market analysts said, after a feared breach on Monday evening was averted.

Josh Stabler, managing director of adviser Energy Edge, said the 20 per cent headroom from the threshold that existed at the start of Tuesday had already been about one-quarter consumed after the price spike early on Monday. That followed what appeared to be a trip at one unit of the Wivenhoe pumped hydro storage plant in Queensland.

“Conditions are very tight with cold weather, low solar output and limited additional availability,” he said.

“Queensland is more likely to be in CPT [Cumulative Price Threshold] this evening than not.”

Prices marching up

It was the imposition of that cap last month that led to the Australian Energy Market Operator eventually seizing control of the dispatch of electricity from power plants after plant owners withdrew some capacity from the market.

AEMO said at the time it had become too difficult to manage the market and ensure the lights stayed on, with so much capacity withdrawn from the market, on top of the chunk of capacity that is out of action because of coal power unit outages.

“The cumulative prices have been steadily marching up since the market restarted,” said Dylan McConnell at the University of Melbourne’s Climate & Energy College.

Specialist information service wattclarity.com.au blamed cold weather and cloud coverage over almost all the state’s east coast for the bout of extreme prices on Monday. It noted that Queensland’s output from large solar farms had the lowest midday reading on Monday for some months.

Meanwhile, the apparent temperature was below 13 degrees in Brisbane, Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast even at midday on Monday, while Toowoomba had apparent temperatures in the low single digits for most of the past 12 hours.

That resulted in demand on the grid in Queensland of 7303 megawatts at midday, 57 per cent higher than last Monday.

The rules around the price threshold, which is $1.398 million for a running total of prices over five-minute trading intervals over seven days, are designed to protect consumers from extreme prices. But because of very high gas and coal prices, the price cap that is then triggered makes it difficult for some plants to run economically.

AEMO said sufficient supply was available to meet forecast dem

Kneel
Kneel
July 5, 2022 1:40 pm

“It’s important that you keep engaged with those messages and know if you’re eligible for further vaccines.”

The things you see when you don’t have a gun…

John Sheldrick
July 5, 2022 1:41 pm

OldOzziesays:
July 5, 2022 at 12:42 pm
Que? – NSW hopes COVID-19 antivirals to be made more widely available

On antiviral medication, Brad Hazzard says they are currently limited in their usage for a number of reasons including supply.

Que? Indeed. Wasn’t it ‘Hazard by name and hazard by nature’ along with ‘Cherry Kant’ who were against the use of anti-virals in the first place. As well as the previous dickhead Federal Health Minister and other State Ministers, CHOs and various other ‘egg spurts’. And the corrupt TGA.

So what has changed? Suddenly realised that those anti-virals actually work very well when used during the early stages of infection.

Gross incompetence, gross incompetence with blood on their hands. Hang ’em High.

Kneel
Kneel
July 5, 2022 1:46 pm

“It noted that Queensland’s output from large solar farms had the lowest midday reading on Monday for some months.”

Hey, we need renew-a-bubbles, right? So get those politicians on stationary bikes and start peddling you fuckers – someone has to keep the lights on!

Kneel
Kneel
July 5, 2022 1:49 pm

“Hang ’em High.”

Too good for ’em.
Turn them upside down, then split them down the middle with a blunt axe starting at the crotch.
Make anyone think twice, seeing that.

Roger
Roger
July 5, 2022 1:52 pm

Why would you get a booster for a strain that has already surpassed what the booster was developed for?

You’ll have to wait for the Royal Commission for the answer.

rosie
rosie
July 5, 2022 1:54 pm

“So that is 909 deaths BEFORE vaccines became available, and a further 9,130 deaths SINCE vaccines became available.”

Short term memory loss?

Do people remember that in 2020 with covid cases in Australia a rarity, there were devastating but isolated outbreaks in aged care, some in NSW, most in Victoria thanks to Dan’s brilliant hotel quarantine fiasco but post vaccine availability state governments, while still turning lockdowns off and on eventually succumbed to ‘let it rip’?

rosie
rosie
July 5, 2022 1:56 pm

“Market analysts warned that sustained periods of prices at nearly $10,000 a megawatt-hour and above through Monday afternoon”

Why is this never referred to by politicians and the msm as outrageous price gouging of captive consumers?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 5, 2022 2:01 pm

“It’s important that you keep engaged with those messages and know if you’re eligible for further vaccines.”

The things you see when you don’t have a gun…

With the way our purported betters have been carrying on of late, I thought it might have been closer to Some days, you just can’t get rid of a bomb…”

#I’mBAAAATMAAARN

bespoke
bespoke
July 5, 2022 2:03 pm

The big problem is young women. So many young women are now fully indoctrinated into the woke progressive nonsense that screams “women can have penises”, “men can have babies” and “individuals with a cervix”.

Haven’t met one, young or old. Seems to be a inner city thing.

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 5, 2022 2:05 pm

I’m part of the incredibly rare 1%* of people that aren’t vaxxed. I first experienced symptoms and tested positive for Covid 7 days ago. I recovered fully from Covid 2 days ago. It really wasn’t a big deal at all. On day 2, the symptoms peaked and persisted in intensity for a couple of days before tailing off rapidly. At their worst, Covid symptoms were quite unpleasant; I felt very fatigued, had kind of a weird fever and runny nose, no appetite. As the fatigue and fever subsided, a quite nasty sore throat set in and that hung around for a couple of days before vanishing. In all, I’ve been a lot sicker.

My (vaxxed) wife had a similar illness profile to me, although she recovered slightly sooner and didn’t have the sore throat, but her cough was worse. Two of my kids – aged 11 and 7, both unvaxxed – got it as well. Their major symptom was fatigue and they had fully recovered within 3 days. They spent the remaining 4 days of isolation jumping out of their skin with excess energy while their parents recovered more slowly. If my kids are representative of other kids their age, then kids absolutely smash Covid. My 18 month old didn’t get it at all.

Knowing what I know now, there’s no way in hell I would subject myself or a member of my family to an experimental vaxx designed for Omicron. Furthermore, I’d say the vast majority of people don’t need to be vaxxed against what they will most likely experience as a relatively mild illness.

*according to the WA government

Roger
Roger
July 5, 2022 2:05 pm

Without dispatchable power, we are heading in the direction of possible blackouts and load-shedding…

Judith really needs to update her language…it’s called “demand management” now.

calli
calli
July 5, 2022 2:09 pm

Why would you get a booster for a strain that has already surpassed what the booster was developed for?

As I said, Bern – dumb or lying but most likely both.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 5, 2022 2:10 pm

UK NEWS
Britons ‘would spend siestas in pub’, says Peter Andre
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Britons could not be trusted to have a continental-style siesta because they would all go to the pub and get drunk. At least, that’s what Downing Street told the pop star Peter Andre when he suggested that the secret to improving productivity was an afternoon nap.

In an interview with Times Radio, the singer said he had raised the idea of introducing siestas with a friend in No 10. “I said, ‘They do it in Europe, they do it in so many countries around the world, but Australia, America and England don’t like this, why?’

“And their answer to me was, ‘Well could you imagine we’ve given everyone a siesta in the UK, they’ve worked hard, it’s hot, they are going to go home and sleep? No, they are not. They are not going to go and have lunch and have an hour’s sleep and wake up and have an espresso and come back to work.’

“He said that when they go the pub they can have quite a few drinks and they are not going to come back to work in the afternoon. And I thought that I kind of get that. That was their reasoning, is that the Brits will go to the pub, but I’d still push for it.”

It is not clear who the Australian-born Andre, 49, had been speaking to in Downing Street, but The Times reported last year that Boris Johnson was a fan of the afternoon power nap.
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A Downing Street insider who knows the prime minister well said at the time: “It would not be entirely uncommon… for him to shut the door and have a kip for half an hour or so — a power executive business nap to get him ready for the rest of the day.”

The prime minister is in good company. His idol, Winston Churchill, was known to enjoy the restorative effect of 40 winks. Leonardo da Vinci, Bill Clinton, John F Kennedy and Salvador Dalí were all also said to be powernappers.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 5, 2022 2:11 pm

If she is right — and her book is the most thorough analysis of the subject — then the Australian Parliament was acknowledging the wrong people, or at the very least using the wrong name for whoever actually qualifies as the descendants of the local Aboriginal people.

If you have a votive act – be it saying a Hail Mary before fishing (thanks, Fredo), or wiping the coin tray of a poker machine before you start playing, or abstaining from sex the night before a chainsaw juggling tournament, and yet you catch no more fish, win no more money then anyone else, or lose as many fingers as your competitors, or if you have a special acknowledgement and nothing is changed afterward, then it is an entirely empty act.

Vicki
Vicki
July 5, 2022 2:12 pm

Oh come on – pretty much same experience for my unvaccinated husband & I didn’t get it at all. It seems to astonish vaxxed friends who have been quite ill with it.

I am trying to convince them to protect themselves with new nasal spray from Vicks in Germany & to use Betadine- as I really think that MAY be the reason I evaded it. Although they have taken the Koolaide, some are coming around. I try to be kind.

jupes
jupes
July 5, 2022 2:18 pm

NSW Chief Health Officer Kerry Chant has urged people to “disregard anything we said about two doses” providing protection against COVID-19.

She wants people to keep getting jabbed. Idiot. The cloth-eared bint is just trying to hang on to power. But she is not alone. Around the country, politicians and chief health officers of states and territories have been displaying ocean-going levels of idiocy and duplicitous behaviour.

On Sunday, the WA CHO finally realised that the vaccine MAY NOT stop infection. No really.

Qld’s Palasczuk:

“We are not doing a mask mandate, but there are discussions happening about urging people in certain situations to wear masks,” she said.

Urging? What does that mean exactly?

ACT Health Minister Rachel Stephen-Smith:

“There is a view that mandatory mask requirements might not be as effective as they have been in the past, partly because those people who are willing to wear masks are already doing so,” she said. “Some of those settings where we’re seeing transmission you wouldn’t be required to wear a mask anyway, so all of those things need to be balanced as we move through this winter period.”

Huh? If anyone can make sense of that, then you deserve a gold elephant stamp.

Victorian CHO Brent Sutton tries his hardest to continue the scare:

“The Department of Health anticipates the prevalence of BA.4/BA.5 in Victoria is likely to result in an increase in cases – including reinfections – and hospital admissions and deaths,” Prof Sutton said on Monday. “This is because the strain has a greater ability than BA.2 to evade immunity provided by vaccination and earlier COVID-19 infection.”

So no point getting vaccinated then Brent? Good. Bit of different message than we’re being told north of the border though.

The morons no longer coordinate their stupid messages and are obviously just flailing around as their power decreases and their idiocy is exposed.

bespoke
bespoke
July 5, 2022 2:21 pm

People have going on about declining birth rates in the west for a long time.

Roger
Roger
July 5, 2022 2:22 pm

Does Ukraine have any chance? What should Ukraine do? – John Mearsheimer on Ukraine, USA and Russia

I think Mearsheimer -whom I have a lot of time for – is simplifying things a bit here.

Zelensky, who was seen as pro-Russian, was elected with a large majority to bring about a modus vivendi with “the Russia gorilla”. When he tried to carry this out, he was stymied by forces on the Ukrainian right, who were opposed to him even talking to Putin about a compormise in the Donbas.

Cassie of Sydney
July 5, 2022 2:24 pm

“From The Oz…

“NSW chief health officer calls on the public to take their third vaccine dose if they haven’t already and to wear masks when they can’t socially distance themselves.”

This is code for “lockdowns”.

Lysander
Lysander
July 5, 2022 2:32 pm

RBA = Up .5%

Old bloke
Old bloke
July 5, 2022 2:32 pm

cohenite says:
July 5, 2022 at 11:43 am

This ritual is now so ubiquitous it is virtually inescapable, from the opening of writers’ festivals, to art exhibitions, academic conferences, school assemblies and functions at the ABC, indeed anywhere those in the public sector gather.

For reasons beyond my understanding, YouTube have been pushing lots of the old Bush Tucker Man series into my suggested viewing list. I’ve watched a few of them and they are delightfully free of the present aboriginal idolatry even though the series was produced by the ABC.

There’s no acknowledgements to elders past and present, no acknowledgements to country or any of these new forms of worship, even at the end credits. The aboriginal people feature largely in the series, but they are shown as informative, intelligent, friendly people, not as museum artefacts.

These new rituals have deprived these people of their basic humanity.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 5, 2022 2:33 pm

RBA lifts rates 0.5pc to 1.35pc, energy leads ASX higher

The RBA statement says:

At its meeting today, the Board decided to increase the cash rate target by 50 basis points to 1.35 per cent. It also increased the interest rate on Exchange Settlement balances by 50 basis points to 1.25 per cent.

One source of ongoing uncertainty about the economic outlook is the behaviour of household spending. The recent spending data have been positive, although household budgets are under pressure from higher prices and higher interest rates. Housing prices have also declined in some markets over recent months after the large increases of recent years. The household saving rate remains higher than it was before the pandemic and many households have built up large financial buffers and are benefiting from stronger income growth. The Board will be paying close attention to these various influences on household spending as it assesses the appropriate setting of monetary policy.

The Board will also be paying close attention to the global outlook, which remains clouded by the war in Ukraine and its effect on the prices for energy and agricultural commodities. Real household incomes are under pressure in many economies and financial conditions are tightening, as central banks increase interest rates. There are also ongoing uncertainties related to COVID, especially in China.

Today’s increase in interest rates is a further step in the withdrawal of the extraordinary monetary support that was put in place to help insure the Australian economy against the worst possible effects of the pandemic. The resilience of the economy and the higher inflation mean that this extraordinary support is no longer needed. The Board expects to take further steps in the process of normalising monetary conditions in Australia over the months ahead. The size and timing of future interest rate increases will be guided by the incoming data and the Board’s assessment of the outlook for inflation and the labour market. The Board is committed to doing what is necessary to ensure that inflation in Australia returns to target over time.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
July 5, 2022 2:33 pm

Oh come on says:
July 5, 2022 at 2:05 pm

I’m part of the incredibly rare 1%* of people that aren’t vaxxed. I first experienced symptoms and tested positive for Covid 7 days ago. I recovered fully from Covid 2 days ago. It really wasn’t a big deal at all. On day 2, the symptoms peaked and persisted in intensity for a couple of days before tailing off rapidly. At their worst, Covid symptoms were quite unpleasant; I felt very fatigued, had kind of a weird fever and runny nose, no appetite. As the fatigue and fever subsided, a quite nasty sore throat set in and that hung around for a couple of days before vanishing. In all, I’ve been a lot sicker.

The WA gov is full of shit!! I know too many people in Perth that are unvaxxed for the gov numbers to be true. If QLD has 18% unvaxxed I find it very hard to believe West Aussies are so much stupider than them. I am unvaxxed and had covid, not much fun but better than the jab side effects that are slowly being reported.

Roger
Roger
July 5, 2022 2:33 pm

“NSW chief health officer calls on the public to take their third vaccine dose if they haven’t already and to wear masks when they can’t socially distance themselves.”

This is code for “lockdowns”.

I read it as she’s been told there won’t be lockdowns.

Zipster
Zipster
July 5, 2022 2:38 pm

The Reserve Bank has raised interest rates for the third month in a row with another massive hike set to add hundreds of dollars to monthly mortgage repayments for the average borrower.

After its July meeting this afternoon the RBA announced another 50 basis point increase, in line with market expectations, bringing the official cash rate target to 1.35 per cent.

Roger
Roger
July 5, 2022 2:40 pm

These new rituals have deprived these people of their basic humanity.

And another thing…the prog-left don’t see indigenous folk as having moral agency.

This illustrated in the way crimes committed by indigenous people are reported on.

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 5, 2022 2:40 pm

I could be wrong but I suspect there is now a critical mass of public apathy regarding Covid that means any attempt to impose another mask mandate will result in widespread public non-compliance. You still get the Covid crazies who would happily spend the rest of their lives locked down and scared out of their minds – they would comply with another mask mandate and are probably wearing masks everywhere anyway – but the movable middle has largely realised Covid isn’t such a big deal.

The Kerry Chants of the world need to keep talking. Their alarmist rhetoric is sounding crazier and crazier to more and more people.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 5, 2022 2:41 pm

And One Wonder’s “Why” Nothing ever gets done in Australia?

Whitehaven faces new legal challenge to Narrabri expansion

An environmental group has challenged the final approval given to Whitehaven Coal to expand its Narrabri underground coal mine.

The NSW independent planning commission earlier this year gave the green light to the expansion of the mine, which will extend its lifespan by 13 years to 2044.

The decision infuriated environmental groups, who had mounted an aggressive campaign to stop the expansion on the grounds it would exacerbate climate change.

In what is likely to be a last ditch legal challenge to the expansion, Bushfire Survivors for Climate Action (BSCA) – a community activist group – has sought a judicial review of the IPC’s ruling. The challenge will centre on whether the IPC gave sufficient credence to the impact of the expansion on the climate.

“The IPC had before it indisputable scientific evidence on the impact emissions from this mine extension would have on our climate.

This mine produces not just thermal coal, but significant amounts of fugitive methane as well,” said Elaine Johnson, director of legal strategy at Environmental Defenders Office – the legal group representing the BSCA.

Whitehaven said it will proceed with business as usual while it defends the legal challenge.

“Whitehaven intends to vigorously defend the proceedings,” the company said in a statement.

The legal challenge comes as areas including the Nepean-Hawkesbury and the Colo Rivers endure the third major floods in 18 months.

Rains have lashed the region, forcing thousands of residents across Sydney spent Monday night under evacuation orders after three days of heavy rain triggered floods which are likely to see low-lying areas inundated for days.

Environmental advocates have blamed the crisis on climate change and have urged Australia to do more to reduce the use of fossil fuels.

Opponents, however, said Australia must take a measured approach to reducing fossil fuels and the recent energy crunch that saw warnings of blackouts across major cities is evidence that the country must ensure energy security.

“High quality thermal coal has an important role to play in providing energy security during the decarbonisation transition,” Whitehaven said in its statement.

Whitehaven’s Coal’s chief executive officer Paul Flynn last month said Australia’s energy crisis is the consequence of efforts to accelerate the demise of coal from the national electricity market, and increased generation from wind and solar will not eliminate concerns about reliability.

The crisis has been fuelled by about 25 per cent of Australia’s coal generation being offline due to faults and maintenance – which Mr Flynn said is the consequence of efforts to accelerate the decline of the country’s traditional electricity source.

Some climate advocates have said Australia must accelerate the development of renewable energy generation though others are worried it will not solve the problem of reliability.

Mr Flynn said there is a “disconnect” between aspiration and the practicalities, and Australia’s largest sources of renewable energy are not yet reliable enough.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
July 5, 2022 2:45 pm

Rogersays:
July 5, 2022 at 2:05 pm
Without dispatchable power, we are heading in the direction of possible blackouts and load-shedding…

Judith really needs to update her language…it’s called “demand management” now.

Using taxpayers’ money to pay businesses to reduce production.
It’s the sustainable economy of the future.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
July 5, 2022 2:46 pm

Oh come onsays:
July 5, 2022 at 2:40 pm
I could be wrong but I suspect there is now a critical mass of public apathy regarding Covid

Mask mandates are still in force on public transport in Melbourne. I’d estimate the compliance rate at about 50%.

bespoke
bespoke
July 5, 2022 2:54 pm

Went mitre 10 the other day. At 8% masked compared to bunnings only having the odd one.

jupes
jupes
July 5, 2022 3:00 pm

… but the movable middle has largely realised Covid isn’t such a big deal.

That’s because most people have actually had it and the rest know plenty of people who have. Well over half my family has, including my 86 yr old mum. Not much worse than a cold for any of us.

Why are the politicians and health bureaucracy still freaking out over a cold?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 5, 2022 3:00 pm

Using taxpayers’ money to pay businesses to reduce production.
It’s the sustainable economy of the future.

It all went to hell when governments stopped referring to utilities as essential services and they became business investments.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 5, 2022 3:05 pm

OldOzzie says:
July 5, 2022 at 11:31 am

Up the Workers! said…

On 22 Feb, 2021, the first Covid vaccinations in Australia commenced.
[…]
So that is 909 deaths BEFORE vaccines became available, and a further 9,130 deaths SINCE vaccines became available.

I haven’t looked at Covid numbers for months – but I did and was amazed to see that Australia has now had over 8,254, 785 official cases. (The true number is 8,254,788: my son, dil, and I failed to report our cases to the Authorities.)

As a proportion of population we are now similar to the UK – but in 6 months rather than 2.5 years – and shade third world joints like the US, Russia and India.

We stand out in the world as late, but enthusiastic adopters.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 5, 2022 3:06 pm

Got Skah on.
This Murray Watt fellow comes across as chief crayon sorter.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 5, 2022 3:07 pm

Albo defending his OS junket by declaring he hasn’t had a day off in a very long time and which event he attended would critics suggest he should not have.
I know the answer to both assertions.
Who gives a fuck how many days you work you whining little prick and all the events you attended.

m0nty
m0nty
July 5, 2022 3:08 pm

Respect to Rex for doing yeoman’s work pushing back against the Putin poodles.

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 5, 2022 3:10 pm

Nambas, of course the WA govt is full of shit. Their own numbers on their ‘vaccine dashboard’ don’t add up to a vaxx rate that’s anything close to what they’re claiming (95%+ of 12 and older population double vaxxed, 83% triple, well over half 5-11yos vaxxed). And every now and again their spokespeople let out snippets of information in support of the day’s Covid talking points that don’t gel with the claimed vaxx rate. I remember a few months back when they were trying to get more oldies boosted, they claimed the vaxx rate of people in one of the older age groups was ‘only’ in the mid 80s. Why would this be? And how could it be, given the overall rate being claimed?

Pretty much everyone I’ve spoken to about it knows at least one person (other than myself!) who isn’t vaxxed. I know at least 5 people who aren’t vaxxed, and several more who have told me their spouse or some other close relation is unvaxxed. I don’t have some huge circle of friends and acquaintances.

I would bet the farm that the 12-17yo cohort is much less highly vaxxed than is claimed. How many people reluctantly got vaxxed because if they didn’t they would lose their jobs? Many, many people. Now, how many of that vaxx-coerced group would make their kids get vaxxed even though it isn’t compulsory? Very few, I’d wager.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 5, 2022 3:11 pm

dover0beach says:
July 5, 2022 at 3:07 pm
Yes, the alleged shooter has definite MAGA vibe.

All Swedish non black rappers.
Super weird.

areff
areff
July 5, 2022 3:15 pm

who don’t know how to do the most basic of procedures.

Not to bitch and moan, but I have a wound on my back that has refused to heal in the six weeks since a cyst was removed. Stitches are out, but the void where the cyst lived (about the size of a squash ball) keeps filling up with blood, swelling and leaking more blood.

Yesterday, the swelling was drained by a young Chinese doctor (Parkville Asylum Medical School). No complaints: swelling down, pain gone.

But when he was poking about he remarked: “Dear me, half a suture has been left in the wound.”

Am now wondering where the first Chinese doctor, who did the surgery, got his degree (if indeed he has one at all), as everything about the procedure has gone wrong and continues to go wrong.

PS: If any Cat homemakers can suggest a detergent that banishes blood stains, much appreciated. Just about everything I own (car), wear (all my decent shirts) or sleep in (some very nice new Christmas present sheets) looks like Duncan’s bedchamber after Macbeth paid a visit.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 5, 2022 3:21 pm

Best laugh of the day was Virginia Trioli interviewing some man/boy from a Canberra strategic think tank who thought the nuclear subs were potentially a cause of nuclear proliferation because someone could “hack” into the reactor and steal the uranium for other uses when the subs came to port.
Comedy gold. Virginia playing the straight bat to the looney bird.
It took ninety years to reach this peak of credible journalism.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 5, 2022 3:22 pm

jupes

Why are the politicians and health bureaucracy still freaking out over a cold?

Because to admit to having been wrong over the past two years would destroy , not so much their public image, but their own absolute self-belief in their own complete infallibility. The harm to their egos would be immeasurable. But not so bad that they would resign and become hermits, as the rest of us wish them to do.

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 5, 2022 3:22 pm

Upshot – the claimed WA vaxx rates are bullshit, and you only require a pinch of common sense to figure this out.

If I had to guess the actual vaxx rate of the WA population aged 16+, I reckon it’d be 80-85%. Higher than other states because fuckface fascist McGowan was especially punitive and tyrannical with the vaxx mandates, but well down from what he claims.

The actual vaxx rate of children, I wouldn’t want to guess. I suspect it’s far lower than the official rates. Lots of people who got vaxxed reluctantly or even willingly are a hard ‘no’ when it comes to their kids.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 5, 2022 3:24 pm

Went mitre 10 the other day. At 8% masked compared to bunnings only having the odd one.

I am contemplating adding a mask when I go to Bunnings, plus my sunglasses, in order to avoid their facial recognition software. Maybe I will write ‘no face fotos’ across it to show it’s a protest and to differentiate myself from Covid worried wells.

Bunnings is more convenient for me than Mitre 10.
I need some Araldite for Glass to repair an irreplaceable fallen glass light, one of a trio.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
July 5, 2022 3:26 pm

From City-journal.com

The Assault on Children’s Psyches

Patricia (a pseudonym) is the mother of a teenage girl who in recent years has come to identify as transgender. She lives in California, considers herself progressive, votes Democrat, and leads a group for parents of children with rapid onset gender dysphoria (ROGD)—that is, youth who suddenly experience distress with their bodies and believe that undergoing medical “transition” will make them whole again. When I spoke to her recently, she recounted how her daughter’s at-first-lesbian and then trans identity emerged in response to feelings of shame about being white.
I have since spoken to more than a dozen ROGD parents and parent-group leaders who tell a similar story. Their schools compulsively tell their children how awful it is to be white, how white people enjoy unearned “privilege,” how they benefit from “systems” put in place by and for white people for the sole purpose of oppressing “people of color.” Plagued by guilt, the children—almost all of them girls—rush to the sanctuary of “LGBTQ+” identity. Once there, they are catapulted into hero status. According to Patricia, some teachers at her daughter’s school are more forgiving toward “queer” and “trans” kids who hand in their homework late.
The students, especially the girls, absorb this messaging. They are acutely sensitive to how identity affects their social status and academic fortunes. They want the warmth that comes with queer/trans identity, but above all they don’t want to be thought of as vicious oppressors. Lacking maturity and self-confidence, they fail to put “anti-racist” indoctrination in its proper context. They do not appreciate its ahistorical, anti-intellectual, and anti-humanist foundations, nor are they aware of the incentives leading teachers and administrators to foist it on them. Being white is not something these teenagers can escape, but they can mitigate its social costs by declaring themselves part of an oppressed group.
The wages of whiteness for teenagers are, however, only half of the story. Decades of gay rights activism have taught us that being gay or lesbian is not something one chooses. The mainstream narrative of transgenderism—promoted aggressively in the context of civil rights policymaking—holds that even being transgender is something people have little control over. Gender identity, experts have argued in Title IX lawsuits, is innate, immutable, and “primarily dictated by messages from the brain.” Thus, membership in the “LGBTQ+ community” would seem to be nonvoluntary. One is either “born that way” or not.

Indolent
Indolent
July 5, 2022 3:29 pm

“We are seeing, right now, the highest death rates we have seen in the history of this business – not just at OneAmerica,” the company’s CEO Scott Davison said during an online news conference… “The data is consistent across every player in that business.”

Klaus Swabb on international youth day

twitter.com/backtolife_2023/status/1544030107043598337?s=20&t=8NTJ3bsyUQrovIMD-japcQ”>Wittgenstein
@backtolife_2023
Klaus Schwab: Nobody will be safe if not everybody is vaccinated

There’s a link there to the full session, if you have the stomach for it.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 5, 2022 3:31 pm

New Catallaxy 22h

Great thread ?
Will Schryver@imetatronink
?Observations on the Ukraine War
2022-06-28

To the contrary, there are no observations in that thread, just a bunch of asserted conclusions with no supporting argument.
Curious remarks such as this:

Javelins, NLAWs, and Stingers have been exposed as effectively useless against their intended targets.

…leave one to wonder where he got all the evidence of failed attacks by said munitions. We’ve seen videos of NLAWs working just fine in Ukraine, so where are all the videos of the failures and how did this guy see them when no others have.

It also contains hilarious bloopers such as this

I am convinced NATO will not survive the results of this war in Ukraine. Sure, they’ll “keep up appearances” for the time being, but there can be no doubt that most now understand that siding with a rapidly declining empire is fraught with great risk and minimal gain.

NATO gained 3 new members in the last 3 years and lost none. The opposite of decline.

But he supports Vlad-bae, so this thread gets a free pass from Dover.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 5, 2022 3:32 pm

Now youse will all know that weirdo in Dover Heights Bunnings is me but yous will be none the wiser re what I look like. More to the point, nor will Bunnings. Not that I am a shoplifter, their stated reason for invading customers’ privacy au chinois.

Wonder what they would do if some people decided to keep on their motorcycle helmets.

And a certain Muslim attire must present them with some problems too.

Didn’t some judge in a case against a Muslim woman decide that if no see face, no make charge?
If than can stick, such a lot can be left in the realm of ‘it never happened’.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 5, 2022 3:34 pm

NSW Chief Health Officer Kerry Chant has urged people to “disregard anything we said about two doses” providing protection against COVID-19.

Franx
Franx
July 5, 2022 3:34 pm

Oh, so now in NSW, the populace is asked to consider if they are ‘eligible’ for a further jab. It may be a good thing to require ‘eligibility’. A most proper basis for eligibility would be symptoms of marked levels of induced fear, perhaps coupled with symptoms of marked levels of stupidity.

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 5, 2022 3:34 pm

Respect to Rex for doing yeoman’s work pushing back against the Putin poodles.

Oh, look. M0nts is carrying water for the neocon project in Ukraine and he doesn’t even realise it. Not surprising, I suppose, as most of the left is doing the same thing.

calli
calli
July 5, 2022 3:37 pm

Areff, do not wash any of it in hot or even warm water. Cold water is your friend.

Soak in cold water overnight if the blood is dry. Use a soap stick like Exit. You might want to soak whites in Nappisan or similar to remove the rest of the stain.

Car upholstery – use Spot Wizz. It removes organic stains from upholstery and carpets. (It even removed months old orange juice stains from my lounge – grrrrr).

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 5, 2022 3:37 pm

PS: If any Cat homemakers can suggest a detergent that banishes blood stains, much appreciated. Just about everything I own (car), wear (all my decent shirts) or sleep in (some very nice new Christmas present sheets) looks like Duncan’s bedchamber after Macbeth paid a visit.

Have you an ALDI to hand?

Get their Trimat Advanced detergent.

https://www.aldi.com.au/en/groceries/laundry-household/laundry/skin-care-detail/ps/p/trimat-advanced-laundry-liquid-2l-regular/

While my examples may not involve blood, I know it cuts through locomotive-grade road grime, grease and oil splashes on Hi-vis gear.

Blood is child’s play by comparison.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 5, 2022 3:40 pm

Re: Oh Come On

we are where we are because young women ‘pushed back’ and the law, corporates and education followed.

Updating 2016. Politics can be downstream from vulvas if you let it.

remember when we thought the crazy Millennials would graduate from their gender studies courses and the realities of life would slap the stupid ideologies out of them? Boy were we wrong. They graduated and made the stupid ideologies realities of life.

A possible Liberty Quote?

bespoke
bespoke
July 5, 2022 3:41 pm

Don’t have to be a neocon to see one side is slightly less bad then the other.

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 5, 2022 3:42 pm

the alleged shooter has definite MAGA vibe.

Wow. Okay, I’m prepared to call it – he could be MAGA, he could be antifa – he is definitely a nutjob. It’ll be interesting to find out what meds he’s on.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 5, 2022 3:42 pm

the neocon project in Ukraine

What neocon project?

Does this mean that we will see Cats vociferously cheering for China when they start getting kinetic on us and all their neighbours, on the same basis that China supports ‘traditional values?’ And the West is decadent and whatever China’s target is deserves to be punished because the West is decadent and we don’t like the folks currently in charge?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 5, 2022 3:44 pm

because someone could “hack” into the reactor and steal the uranium

Hack?

I wonder what he imagines a person hacking a computer is doing? Prying it open and pilfering bits?

calli
calli
July 5, 2022 3:44 pm

looks like Duncan’s bedchamber after Macbeth paid a visit.

Out, damned spot! Out, I say!

😀

Indolent
Indolent
July 5, 2022 3:45 pm

Nolte: On This July 4th, Trump Is America’s Most Popular Politician

He is also its rightful President, something more and more people are starting to realise.

John Sheldrick
July 5, 2022 3:46 pm

Farmer Gezsays:
July 5, 2022 at 3:00 pm
Using taxpayers’ money to pay businesses to reduce production.
It’s the sustainable economy of the future.

It all went to hell when governments stopped referring to utilities as essential services and they became business investments.

About the same as when ‘Public Works’ became ‘Infrastructure’.

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 5, 2022 3:47 pm

Don’t have to be a neocon to see one side is slightly less bad then the other.

Agree. However, if you’re framing anyone who is more sympathetic to the Russian perspective as a “Putin poodle”, you are shilling for the neocons.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 5, 2022 3:49 pm

Nuclear anything is like kryptonite to the ALPBC. Worse than climate change.

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 5, 2022 3:49 pm

What neocon project?

You’re not familiar with the work of Victoria Nuland? There are others, of course, but she’s a good place to start.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 5, 2022 3:50 pm

Does this mean that we will see Cats vociferously cheering for China when they start getting kinetic on us and all their neighbours, on the same basis that China supports ‘traditional values?’

Remembering that Vlad Bae and Winnie Xi Pooh alike, like to use ‘traditional values’ and national pride as a social glue and figleaf to keep their populations acquiescent in the face of their more oppressive carrying on…

JC
JC
July 5, 2022 3:50 pm

Does this mean that we will see Cats vociferously cheering for China when they start getting kinetic on us and all their neighbours, on the same basis that China supports ‘traditional values?’ And the West is decadent and whatever China’s target is deserves to be punished because the West is decadent and we don’t like the folks currently in charge?

Yes Rex. 🙂

After seeing that, for a moment China sounds like a good idea.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 5, 2022 3:53 pm

You’re not familiar with the work of Victoria Nuland? There are others, of course, but she’s a good place to start.

A Democrat political operator?

Heavens above, people. The way some of you froth about Victoria Nuland, I get the impression she’s some kind of magical succubus capable of depriving otherwise reasomable Slavs of their wits with one wiggle of her eyebrows.

Would you have been as excited if she had been Chinese?

Next thing you know, there’ll be accusations she equipped Azov with Red Shoes…

John Sheldrick
July 5, 2022 3:56 pm

The legal challenge comes as areas including the Nepean-Hawkesbury and the Colo Rivers endure the third major floods in 18 months.

Rains have lashed the region, forcing thousands of residents across Sydney spent Monday night under evacuation orders after three days of heavy rain triggered floods which are likely to see low-lying areas inundated for days.

I bet that those low-lying areas are what is known as a river ‘Flood Plain’ and has been flooded on and off since the end of the last Ice Age. Not many humans around at the end of the last Ice Age to have much of an impact on the Climate if at all. And what caused that Ice Age? Mother Nature needs to own up here.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 5, 2022 3:57 pm

OCO,
Yeah nah.
I’m opposed to bullplop arguments being used to cheerlead for *any* side. Personally I don’t want Vlad-bae to win simply on the basis that his country of Russia crossed the line and became the aggressor when they invaded Ukraine. All prior provocation is duly noted, but is hardly more than replacing a pro-Russian stooge with a neocon stooge while Russia was simultaneously resupplying a revolutionary militia in Donbas and astrotrufing them as an independence movement.
If nations are so important, shouldn’t the nation that attacked first lose this one? How did you end up hating the *group* neocons more than you like the *principle* of sovereign borders?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 5, 2022 3:58 pm

m0ntysays:
July 5, 2022 at 3:08 pm
Respect to Rex for doing yeoman’s work pushing back against the Putin poodles.

Its all different flavors of bullshit over there, picking a side is aids/cancer stuff.

One side has Vlad the dick
The other side has Vlad the asshole.

In the middle are the poor bastards being killed on both sides.
And poking it with sticks are various Western and Chinese (What could be better for China than a look at the latest gear in a conventional fight) turdlets, happy to prolong the war by selling gadgets for the Ukrainians/Russians to die with.

Ukies are slightly less odious because Vlad P started it.
Either way we are better off keeping well away from the turd sandwich over there.

Vicki
Vicki
July 5, 2022 4:00 pm

Not many humans around at the end of the last Ice Age to have much of an impact on the Climate if at all. And what caused that Ice Age? Mother Nature needs to own up here.

Very good – especially the last sentence! John – Ian Plimer would love this comment.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 5, 2022 4:00 pm

Agree. However, if you’re framing anyone who is more sympathetic to the Russian perspective as a “Putin poodle”, you are shilling for the neocons.

Neocons aren’t reducing cities to moonscapes, looting everything they can carry away (including the captured civilian populations of cities like Mariupol) and pressganging their allegedly ‘liberated’ populations from 2014 to be their cannon fodder.

So, I think I’ll shill for the dratted neocons in this instance, thanks. Those ‘based’ and ‘traditional values’ -supporting anti-Nazis from the East seem to be behaving a little too much like the lebensraum-seekers of old to me…

johanna
johanna
July 5, 2022 4:01 pm

NSW Chief Health Officer Kerry Chant has urged people to “disregard anything we said about two doses” providing protection against COVID-19.

“Honest, Charlie Brown, this time I won’t take the football away.”

The Healthocracy is grimly fighting to the death to avoid losing its place in the sun, not to mention the driving seat. Alas for them, the caravan moves on.

Speaking of doublethink, I can’t help wondering how the absurd explanations for why our electricity bills keep rising, and the answer is to double down, can continue. In this coolish part of the world the big winter bills are rolling in, even as interest rates rise and inflation ditto. On one hand Our Betters are promoting electricity for everything from cars to stoves, on the other the prices are rising like … won’t say, I still have the vestiges of being a lady. 🙂

This apparently unanimous view that we must undergo an ‘energy transformation’ is not coinciding with reality. Cherman Green policians have shown their true colours by firing up coal plants, because they know that if their fantasies came true, they’d be thrown out of office with their heads on pikes.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 5, 2022 4:01 pm

Oh come onsays:
July 5, 2022 at 3:34 pm
Respect to Rex for doing yeoman’s work pushing back against the Putin poodles.

Oh, look. M0nts is carrying water for the neocon project in Ukraine and he doesn’t even realise it. Not surprising, I suppose, as most of the left is doing the same thing.

The only original thought that m0nty-fa has ever had was realising that he was too stupid even for Economics 1. Everything else is copied from fascist left sources.

areff
areff
July 5, 2022 4:02 pm

Calli and Rex, advice much appreciated.

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 5, 2022 4:03 pm

Does this mean that we will see Cats vociferously cheering for China when they start getting kinetic on us and all their neighbours

Binary thinking.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 5, 2022 4:04 pm

Vitrioli needs to be careful she doesn’t do an Alberscreechi at the ALPBC. Her star is definitely on the wane.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 5, 2022 4:04 pm

All prior provocation is duly noted, but is hardly more than replacing a pro-Russian stooge with a neocon stooge while Russia was simultaneously resupplying a revolutionary militia in Donbas and astrotrufing them as an independence movement.

Operations normal in the world for decades. It only became an issue after Donald was weaseled out of power.

If nations are so important, shouldn’t the nation that attacked first lose this one? How did you end up hating the *group* neocons more than you like the *principle* of sovereign borders?

Ukraine is being punished by the Right because of the bastardry of the US Democrat Party from 2016-2020.

If they had set themselves up in Lithuania, Estonia, Kazakhstan or Belarus, they would be copping the rhetorical stick right now…

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 5, 2022 4:05 pm

Oh come onsays:
July 5, 2022 at 3:42 pm
the alleged shooter has definite MAGA vibe.

Wow. Okay, I’m prepared to call it – he could be MAGA, he could be antifa – he is definitely a nutjob. It’ll be interesting to find out what meds he’s on.

Not only will you never hear about his meds (if any), neither will you hear about any recreational pharmaceuticals which he might or might not have imbibed.

Peter Hitchins has a real bee in his bonnet about a potential link between use of Mary Jane and many very public murders.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 5, 2022 4:05 pm

This was one of the comments at the DM article about the shooter in Chicago.

Damn the U.S is truly messed up. What the heck is going on with this country? And I don’t wanna hear, oh it’s liberals or oh it’s conservatives This guy was a Trump supporter

I would love to know how he has worked that last bit out.

The Mayor of Chicago has already jumped in – although Highland Park is not her city. With the ongoing carnage in her own city she still could not resist dipping her oar in to comment on gun violence.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 5, 2022 4:06 pm

Pigtails, granny glasses and a gingham dress?
That just screams MAGA!

Vicki
Vicki
July 5, 2022 4:07 pm

After seeing that, for a moment China sounds like a good idea.

Speaking of the threat of China – I hope most people saw the 60 Minutes segment on the Chinese threat in the Pacific. Normally, I rarely give the show a look – but noticed the promos looked interesting. And indeed it was – for once, good investigative journalism with probing questions to major players amongst our neighbours.

One of the best reasons for watching was the interview with military/strategic interests analyst Alain Dupont, who wrote an outstanding article last week (The Weekend Australian?) on the intentions of China in our neck of the woods.

Some commentators finally getting serious about this topic – although, of course, I feel a terrible inevitability about the trajectory of China.

John Sheldrick
July 5, 2022 4:07 pm

Zipstersays:
July 5, 2022 at 2:38 pm
The Reserve Bank has raised interest rates for the third month in a row with another massive hike set to add hundreds of dollars to monthly mortgage repayments for the average borrower.

After its July meeting this afternoon the RBA announced another 50 basis point increase, in line with market expectations, bringing the official cash rate target to 1.35 per cent.

A cash rate of 1.35 per cent pa is still low compared to the inflation rate (CPI) which will likely be around 7% pa or so by the end of July 2022. The cash rate is going a lot lot higher. The RBA has left its run a tad late and is very much in ‘catch up’ mode. All IMHO.

m0nty
m0nty
July 5, 2022 4:07 pm

However, if you’re framing anyone who is more sympathetic to the Russian perspective as a “Putin poodle”, you are shilling for the neocons.

If you find yourself to be sympathetic to the Russian perspective, perhaps read some of Putin’s speeches back again where he waxes lyrical about the reconstruction of the Russian empires of history, and give yourself an uppercut.

There are few subjects where Godwin’s Law is less relevant than the current war in Ukraine.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 5, 2022 4:07 pm

Wild swings in Queensland’s wholesale power prices have revived the risk of caps being imposed that could trigger the same crisis in the National Electricity Market that caused an unprecedented nine-day suspension of the market last month.

Market analysts warned that sustained periods of prices at nearly $10,000 a megawatt-hour and above through Monday afternoon and another spike early on Tuesday meant the running seven-day total of wholesale prices in the state was again nearing a threshold that would automatically trigger a $300/MWh cap.

It’s worth pointing out that most of Queensland’s generation on Monday/Tuesday was from coal.

Also worth pointing out that two thirds of the coal generation is done by Government Owned Corporations: CS Energy and Stanwell.

Also, also worth pointing out that CS Energy and Stanwell get their coal from dedicated mines (ie no exposure to export markets) at prices that last year enabled them to send out at $50/MWh – and make huge profits.

Also, also, also worth pointing out that the gas fired generators were not buying their gas on the spot market at $40/GJ Putin Pricing.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 5, 2022 4:09 pm

Binary thinking.

Nope.

Not when most folks didn’t give a shit about Ukraine before they found out about Fusion GPS and Hillary.

And angry folks started looking East for something to vouch for as an alternative.

Since the Dems found a quick and easy propaganda target in Russia, most Right leaning folk found more reasons to be sympathetic to it than cast a suspicious eye over its idential behaviours to the Left at home.

Which is how we get folks who can shred and eviscerate an obviously BS media talking point from a western MSM outlet with ease, but dress the same talking point up in an Ushanka, get it to Cossack-dance and make it speak in a mock Russian accent, they’ll fall head over heels for it…

Zipster
Zipster
July 5, 2022 4:10 pm

halifax
p.j.watson

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 5, 2022 4:11 pm

Rex and Berka – I honestly can’t be arsed. We’ve been down this road many times already. I know your positions, I expect you know mine, we aren’t going to persuade each other.

Zipster
Zipster
July 5, 2022 4:13 pm

There are few subjects where Godwin’s Law is less relevant than the current war in Ukraine.

because supporting neo-nazies is so the current thing

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 5, 2022 4:13 pm

If you find yourself to be sympathetic to the Russian perspective, perhaps read some of Putin’s speeches back again where he waxes lyrical about the reconstruction of the Russian empires of history,

I’d like to read them. Provide a link, please.

m0nty
m0nty
July 5, 2022 4:14 pm

Zippy, you are the person least qualified to speak on that matter on this site, given your long history of pro-Nazi rhetoric.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 5, 2022 4:14 pm

The Fat Man can also keep his praise. I’m not Supporting The Current Thing like he does.

Watching folks cheer on Russia for the very same things they’ll rage at America over, and then try to semantically whatabout their way out of it was enough for me.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 5, 2022 4:15 pm

Vicki

Some commentators finally getting serious about this topic – although, of course, I feel a terrible inevitability about the trajectory of China.

Chainerr is about the only subject on which Clive Hamilton is rational and correct.

Mater
July 5, 2022 4:15 pm

(The true number is 8,254,788: my son, dil, and I failed to report our cases to the Authorities.)

Make that 8,254,801…from my close family and friends.

m0nty
m0nty
July 5, 2022 4:15 pm

OCO:

I honestly can’t be arsed

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