Open Thread – Tue 26 July 2022


The Burning of the Houses of Parliament, William Turner, 1835

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Zipster
Zipster
July 26, 2022 4:56 pm

Not serious people.

governing a western country is so humdrum even a young woman who still goes clubbing can do it. when faced with real issues they haven’t got an f*ing clue

Zipster
Zipster
July 26, 2022 4:57 pm

When you have pure-grade communists like Chomsky and Galloway saying its all got too much for them, we’re really in strife.

chomsky is an anarchist but we have been there already

Old bloke
Old bloke
July 26, 2022 4:57 pm

Arky says:
July 26, 2022 at 3:21 pm

The proximity argument you made is also refuted by the Falklands war.
Thatcher defended existing borders thousands of miles from the UK and proximate to Argentina, and in doing so defended the rule of international law.
If Argentina wanted the Falklands, they should have offered to buy them.

What actions do you advocate Arky?

Do you want a rerun of the Crimean War and the Siege of Sevastopol? We could even redo the Charge of the Light Brigade although Florence Nightingale won’t be around to apply the bandages.

m0nty
m0nty
July 26, 2022 5:03 pm

I have the rona. So far I am sleeping a lot. Worst is yet to come.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
July 26, 2022 5:08 pm

Hope you get better soon Monty.

JC
JC
July 26, 2022 5:08 pm

Fatboy. Get into the basement and don’t come out until you’re told. And get well. If Brett Sutton hears you’ve been above-ground, you’ll be in serious trouble. And stop eating FFS. Lose some weight with COVID. Get better.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 26, 2022 5:09 pm

Indolent says:
July 26, 2022 at 2:39 pm
My posts seem to be disappearing.

Do the contain links from trusted sources on the innernet?

rosie
rosie
July 26, 2022 5:14 pm

Get well soon Monty.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 26, 2022 5:15 pm

m0ntysays:
July 26, 2022 at 5:03 pm
I have the rona. So far I am sleeping a lot. Worst is yet to come.

See if your co-morbid ass is eligible for the anti-virals they dish out to the old and infirm.

(you are in sicktoria arent you?)
https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/covid-19-medicines
Your doc should be able to wrangle you a course vis telephone consult.
Not everyone is eligible for COVID-19 medications. They are only for people with COVID-19 who are at higher risk of becoming seriously ill. This includes people aged 70 years and over and those with other medical illnesses. Besides these groups, most people can manage COVID-19 safely at home without medication.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 26, 2022 5:16 pm

Domestic violence relief at top of first week’s priorities

Geoff Chambers
Chief Political Correspondent
@Chambersgc
10:30PM July 25, 2022
145 Comments

More than 11 million Australians – including casual workers – will have access to 10 days of paid family and domestic violence leave per year as Labor sharpens its industrial relations reforms ahead of its Jobs and Skills Summit with unions and employers in September.

The business-pays entitlement scheme will be accessed by workers from February 1 next year, with small business owners given a six-month reprieve to get their training and systems in place.

Under the landmark legislation, which will be put into parliament on Thursday, employers will be allowed to either accept a request for leave or ask for documentary evidence including domestic violence orders, police reports, doctors’ certificates and counsellor notes. Workers will be eligible to access a fresh 10 days leave if they move between jobs, with employers paying the entitlement directly.

With one woman killed every 10 days in Australia by a current or former partner, Industrial Relations Minister Tony Burke said the government doesn’t want a system where “some workers get paid leave and others don’t”.

“It has to apply to everyone. Casual workers are not spared from family and domestic violence. In fact, women who are experiencing family and domestic violence are more likely to be employed in casual work,” he said.

“We cannot leave them behind. That’s why this has to be a universal entitlement. The union movement has fought hard for this through the Fair Work Commission. And some businesses have ­already done the right thing and established this entitlement.”

Words fail me, they honestly do.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 26, 2022 5:17 pm

Mother Lodesays:

July 26, 2022 at 4:06 pm

Men pretending to be women and women pretending to be men has been the very mark of decadence and deviance since forever.

Remember Corporal Klinger in M*A*S*H?
In a 2022 remake he would be Colonel Klinger running the show, and the Corporal trying to get chucked out would be feigning devout Christianity.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 26, 2022 5:17 pm

Im willing to write a reference for you being a mong if that helps.

You are between 18 and 49 years old
You may be eligible for COVID-19 medicine if you have one of the following:
You have a weakened immune system

You have:

blood cancer
had an organ transplant and are taking medicine to lower your immune system
had a stem cell transplant within the last 2 years
an immunodeficiency (conditions that weaken the immune system)
a blood disorder such as thalassemia or sickle cell disease
had a rituximab infusion (medicine delivered into the vein) within the last 12 months
taken medications which lower your immune system such as chemotherapy or corticosteroids within the last 3 months.
You have other health conditions

you have Down syndrome*, cerebral palsy or congenital heart disease
you are living with disability with multiple other health conditions and/or frailty
If you have COVID-19, have had less than 5 days of symptoms and think you are eligible, immediately contact your GP or a GP Respiratory Clinic for further assessment. Let the clinic know you have COVID-19 and that you think you are eligible for COVID-19 medication.

* This may mean you call them up and say you are feeling depressed??

rosie
rosie
July 26, 2022 5:19 pm

“With one woman killed every 10 days in Australia by a current or former partner”
Aboriginal domestic homicides comes in handy when it suits, right Tony?

JC
JC
July 26, 2022 5:19 pm

Dover

The side bar updating to the latest comments appears to be broken. It’s been stuck on Thought Leader’s since his comment at 3.21 castigating you about something – possibly to do with Taiwan ? ( I haven’t kept pace).

rosie
rosie
July 26, 2022 5:20 pm

I think Monty is excluded by age from that list moley.

calli
calli
July 26, 2022 5:20 pm

You may be eligible for COVID-19 medicine if you have one of the following

I assume from this that treatment is not available for everyone? How was this allowed to occur? Is there a shortage?

Perhaps they can flog a few million useless vaxx doses for some of the precious elixir.

CharlieP
CharlieP
July 26, 2022 5:21 pm

Yes, JC, they did take my word for it possibly because before they told me what their policy was, I mentioned that I had had Covid six weeks ago.
I guess they are entitled to impose whatever conditions they wish, as I am at liberty to refuse to buy their services. But I did think all this nonsense was behind us.

calli
calli
July 26, 2022 5:21 pm

I don’t have the side-bar problem.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 26, 2022 5:23 pm

bespokesays:

July 26, 2022 at 4:30 pm

Not interested in ‘teams’.

Agreed.
I can’t get a ciggy paper between Putin and Zelensky as far as which one is the bigger dickhead.
Australia shouldn’t be within a bull’s roar of this on either side.
No troops.
No Bushmasters.
No boycotts.
No blue and yellow lights.
Naffink.

rosie
rosie
July 26, 2022 5:24 pm

Aren’t the anti virals very expensive?
Iirc a course of monoclonal antibodies in the US cost around USD $2000

JC
JC
July 26, 2022 5:24 pm

Rosie

I think fatboy gets in under these:

You have other health conditions

you have Down syndrome*, cerebral palsy or congenital heart disease
you are living with disability with multiple other health conditions and/or frailty

He has an enormous head size, possibly the biggest in the country, suggestive of heavy-duty Downs as well as the other conditions mentioned.

calli
calli
July 26, 2022 5:26 pm

Cost? You dare mention cost?

We are a country of endless resources to fling every which way. 😀

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 26, 2022 5:27 pm

CharliePsays:

July 26, 2022 at 4:48 pm

Brought back to reality with a thump this afternoon. Where else but Vicdanistan. 

Wut?
My gym, which is run by the Shire of Greater Riskaversion, doesn’t want anything but proof I have paid my subs.

JC
JC
July 26, 2022 5:27 pm

dover0beach says:
July 26, 2022 at 5:23 pm

Sidebar up to date here too.

Huh, because Fiefox is stuck on the Leadership’s 3.21 comment, which in itself is pretty horrendous. I forced quit and it’s still there. Safari is fucked too.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
July 26, 2022 5:27 pm

hope this works

Did you Vicks it?

calli
calli
July 26, 2022 5:29 pm

hope this works
Did you Vicks it?

Try Friar’s Balsam too. Inhale as required.

Arky
July 26, 2022 5:29 pm

If you admit that your main point is that Russia is entitled to do what it is doing based on that it can, which is what I think you are admitting, then lets not hear any more arguments about Russian spheres of influence or historical boundaries or the rest of that kind of justification.
And if we leave that out then all that is left is what is in our interest.
Which is what I stated this morning.
It is not in out interest to see Russia taking over neighbouring European nations.
No matter how funky and outrageous our own institutions right now

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
July 26, 2022 5:30 pm
JC
JC
July 26, 2022 5:32 pm

Dover

All three (chrome, Firefox and Safari) are stuck there. Dunno. If its not something you’re seeing then so be it.

Jorge
Jorge
July 26, 2022 5:32 pm

many of the young think that Christian bigots single out gays the way racists do blacks.

They don’t realise heteros come in for quite a bit of disapproving attention in a non discriminatory policy.

I imagine a ‘living in sin’ round would have Vlandys’ wholehearted support.

JC
JC
July 26, 2022 5:33 pm

Just to be clear.

The sidebar comment update is stuck, but not going into the form itself as that appears to be updating.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
July 26, 2022 5:34 pm

rosie says:
July 26, 2022 at 5:24 pm

Aren’t the anti virals very expensive?
Iirc a course of monoclonal antibodies in the US cost around USD $2000

Lagevrio that I used for covid had full cost 1023.00 but I paid $6.00.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
July 26, 2022 5:38 pm

I fully support the Manly players. I am sick and tired of having poofters and dykes lifestyle and kinky sex practices rammed down my throat. I don’t care who they fuck and suck as long as I don’t have to know about it or worse condone it.

Real Deal
Real Deal
July 26, 2022 5:38 pm

I have the rona. So far I am sleeping a lot. Worst is yet to come.

Hope you feel better soon, mOnty. Nurse JC will be around to take your temperature and bring cofee and mars bar slices.

Real Deal
Real Deal
July 26, 2022 5:39 pm

Coffee not cofee. I’m a tee drinker.

Gilas
Gilas
July 26, 2022 5:40 pm

A long-standing dispute with the brain-dead-fuckwitted U-beaut Oz medical bureaucrats has finally ended.
Being a proud pure-blood has unfortunately had its drawbacks, such as being unable to get any locum medical work, due to vaxx mandates, while my battle was raging.
This is despite the fact that dozens of staff-specialist locum positions go begging at all times.
Hence I’ve made the overly-delayed decision to throw in my medical registration before it expires, this will save me $thousands yearly, plus the worsening, increasingly intrusive, bureaucratically-driven hassles of ongoing registration hurdles and College CPD.

The gimme! gimme! public will be the ultimate loser of the worsening senior consultant manpower-shortage, but they voted for the cretinous free-stuff and overregulation policies of the last 50 years, so they can all go and engorge themselves sucking d..k.

The interesting thing is that asking AHPRA to de-register oneself prior to the anniversary date (30th September) is almost impossible. I still haven’t succeeded and it looks like it may take well over a week. This from a bureaucracy which de-registers health practitioners on a sniff of non-compliance with the protean Byzantine regulations.

Honest question: Have any other health professionals on the Cat had the same experience?

Dot
Dot
July 26, 2022 5:40 pm

Banning ICE vehicles is REALLY dumb.

(Well duh).

However, consider;

1. Nuke power, particularly liquid thorium etc.
2. The Fischer Tropsch and Haber Bosch processes.

We can make alkanes, ethers, aromatics, ammonia and hydrazine from the power of the atom and the abundance of the atmosphere.

Modern catalysts make these processes very efficient too. Add in catalytic cracking and GTL, reforming etc and we have carbon neutral liquid fuels.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 26, 2022 5:42 pm

mUnter.

A traditional cure. Chicken manure poultice, wrapped around the bonce while sitting in a warm bath of your own urine. Marinate for 24 hours.

Also, strictly no Communism for the next 40 years.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 26, 2022 5:49 pm

Real Dealsays:
July 26, 2022 at 5:38 pm
I have the rona. So far I am sleeping a lot. Worst is yet to come.

Hope you feel better soon, mOnty. Nurse JC will be around to take your temperature and bring cofee and mars bar slices.

Does m0nty-fa like his Mars Bars in the Scottish style? Deep fried?

Zipster
Zipster
July 26, 2022 5:51 pm

It is not in out interest to see Russia taking over neighbouring European nations.
No matter how funky and outrageous our own institutions right now

It’s not in our interests to start a nuclear war with Russia over a rotten corrupt state like Ukraine.

Mater
July 26, 2022 5:52 pm

Also, strictly no Communism for the next 40 years.

He’s only a 90% chance to make it the next 40 years.

m0nty
#3518263, posted on July 19, 2020 at 3:25 pm
That is not a serious assumption in the slightest. Take me for instance, I have 30-40 years left in me but if I get the virus I am roughly a 10% chance to die. There are plenty in my position.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 26, 2022 5:52 pm

Gilas

Honest question: Have any other health professionals on the Cat had the same experience?

Of them being incompetent mongs?
Yes 3

1: Nurse was hauled over the coals when a certifies complete loose unit speed freak and its meth mouthed mistress accused her of being the antichrist. At the same time they accused nearly everyone onsite of similar transgressions only to not even appear in court when a hearing was set.
Still over 12 months before she was ‘cleared” despite the complaint being a 5 page rambling free form version of Vogon poetry with a couple of accusations thrown in.

2: Complete Paramedic degree, am eligible for “grandfathering” of hours of practice after nearly 20 years of delivering pre hospital care.
Ooops- we wont process your application till after the grandfathering clause expires… oops you arent eligible now..
3: Put in new hours/ operating under direction etc paperwork… ooops we said we wanted 1700 hours of training/operating done and you have given us over 2200..
Then reject it anyway because they arent happy with my position description giving me enough “face time” with patients. This decision has arrived in the same month Ive had a rollover with crush injuries, a motocycle accident requiring RFDS transport and numerous smaller bits and pieces.

In the increasingly unlikely event Im finaly able to practice unencumbered by having to pass everything through the anus of Sauron ill be ready for age based deregistration anyway.

They are just awful.

Zipster
Zipster
July 26, 2022 5:52 pm

I have the rona. So far I am sleeping a lot. Worst is yet to come.

safe and effective!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 26, 2022 5:55 pm

I have two sidebars, a bottom bar and it is refreshing like a disco strobe.
No server errors either.
Although, as I say, I am logged in on my Nazi-pass(tm).

rickw
rickw
July 26, 2022 5:55 pm

No Bushmasters.

Maybe, just so we can find out how shit they are.

m0nty
m0nty
July 26, 2022 5:57 pm

I do not qualify for antivirals.

And yes, I am missing meals already.

rickw
rickw
July 26, 2022 5:57 pm

Take me for instance, I have 30-40 years left in me but if I get the virus I am roughly a 10% chance to die. There are plenty in my position.

The virus has done sweet FA for us so far, why would it start now?

Arky
July 26, 2022 5:58 pm

Russia is not engaging in a generic conquest of European nations.

..
Wrong.
It’s their THIRD such adventure in recent times.

rickw
rickw
July 26, 2022 5:59 pm

And yes, I am missing meals already.

As in eating them in your sleep and then waking and wondering why the fridge is empty?

Winston Smith
July 26, 2022 6:00 pm

sfw:

I have two apple trees, a Granny Smith and a Red Delicious, in a good year I must get close to a thousand or more apples, there’s no way to use even a small fraction, so they just rot away, this area is full of similar trees, nobody wants them in season.

This is why you need a little community organisation. Remember how just about every small to medium town had a Chinese gardener?
The supermarkets crushed that quick smart with legislation about ‘quality’ and ‘disease free certification’.
Now we get substandard fruit that travels to the nearest major city and back again after a ticket clipper sticks a sticker on it.
Get a gardening club together and grow stuff. Plan ahead – three months after the lights go out, there will be a glut of potatoes and tomatoes as everyone plants the same thing.
Get used to trading – five families can chip in and buy one of these rotary tillers for under $300. Offer to make garden beds for others for 10% of their first crop.
Learn how to bottle the excess apples and other fruit.
There are lots of ways to get ahead of the curve – if you aren’t a handyman, and couldn’t erect a greenhouse in a pink fit, buy a kit like this. The framework looks a bit fragile but you can chuck that away and use polypipe.
You need it fully enclosed, as stated above or you are just growing food for the birds.

m0nty
m0nty
July 26, 2022 6:02 pm

I am not allowed into the kitchen. I am isolating in one half of the house while the wife and kids take the other.

The wife has had a sore throat for days but keeps testing negative.

Gilas
Gilas
July 26, 2022 6:04 pm

thefrollickingmole says:
July 26, 2022 at 5:52 pm

Of them being incompetent mongs?
Yes 3

I hear your pain.
That’s what surprised me, AHPRA’s and the various Councils’ tendency to shoot first and then drag the poor professional through months or years of Kafka-ean hell, just to do a job that should take a few days, if performed by a sub-80-IQ human.
Yet they still can’t do the opposite and de-register someone who asks for it. And for this level of incompetence we all pay $hundreds annually.

Mater
July 26, 2022 6:05 pm

I am not allowed into the kitchen. I am isolating in one half of the house while the wife and kids take the other.

As we told you two years ago (and should seem obvious to you now), everyone needs to catch it for this stupid shit to end.

Just give it to them, and let’s move on with life.

rickw
rickw
July 26, 2022 6:05 pm

But I did think all this nonsense was behind us.

Many inhabitants of Vicdanistan relish the opportunity to do a bit of Nazi.

It’s like The Wave. Some irrelevant dumb fuck suddenly finds their power, they’re not going to let that slip away easily.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 26, 2022 6:06 pm

m0nty

I thought you had a cardiac complaint??

And for your other half, experience with whats circulating onsite here has day 3 as the magic one for a sore throat to turn into a positive.
Longest has been 5 days from general unwellness to positive.

One poor family coped nearly 2 full weeks of isolation as it pinged a different person every 3 days in the household.

Real Deal
Real Deal
July 26, 2022 6:10 pm

As in eating them in your sleep and then waking and wondering why the fridge is empty?

And what’s wrong with that?

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 26, 2022 6:11 pm

Nothing like $5ea avocados to encourage a little market entry. Anybody want to buy an ostrich?

bespoke
bespoke
July 26, 2022 6:11 pm
Zipster
Zipster
July 26, 2022 6:13 pm

I am not allowed into the kitchen. I am isolating in one half of the house while the wife and kids take the other.

I take it you don’t have ivermectin nor HCQ on hand.But don’t pay attention to us, keep trusting the government.

The wife has had a sore throat for days but keeps testing negative.

RAT tests are crap

CharlieP
CharlieP
July 26, 2022 6:13 pm

Wut?
My gym, which is run by the Shire of Greater Riskaversion, doesn’t want anything but proof I have paid my subs.
<em
Sancho, it’s a physiotherapy practice which runs various classes for those of us who have reached the stage of gradually falling to bits. The local standard gym has no issues with Covid as far as I know. It’s just further away and less convenient.
Just surprised that these antiquated Covid restrictions still persist in isolated pockets. No common sense applied.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 26, 2022 6:15 pm

If you admit that your main point is

Welcome to the Ben Shapiro high school debating challenge.
Seriously.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 26, 2022 6:16 pm

Chaos in Canberra as climate protesters storm Parliament House and SING ‘whose side are you on?’ on the foyer steps – before being dragged away by cops

Tomorrow Movement activists crammed onto marble steps of Parliament House
‘History will remember, which side are you on?’ they sang to Anthony Albanese
Continued protest on Parliament House lawn along with Greens and ‘teal’ MPs

All the little Greta Thunbergs, demanding “safe climate – good jobs for all.”

Start your own businesses…

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 26, 2022 6:17 pm

m0nty says:
July 26, 2022 at 5:03 pm
I have the rona. So far I am sleeping a lot. Worst is yet to come.

Climate change?

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
July 26, 2022 6:17 pm

m0nty says:
July 26, 2022 at 6:02 pm

I am not allowed into the kitchen. I am isolating in one half of the house while the wife and kids take the other.

The wife has had a sore throat for days but keeps testing negative.

But your God Dan said that you can’t get covid if your vaxxed. What happened?

m0nty
m0nty
July 26, 2022 6:17 pm

I thought you had a cardiac complaint??

I do, but that in itself is not enough to qualify.

And yes, I am fully expecting the wife to test positive soon. She went for a PCR test on the weekend, still nothing.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 26, 2022 6:18 pm

m0ntysays:

July 26, 2022 at 5:57 pm

I do not qualify for antivirals.

And yes, I am missing meals already.

Down to under ten a day?

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 26, 2022 6:18 pm

It’s why Gladys Berejiklian was given flowers in the thousands each day.
She’s like our Princess Di.
The People’s Premier.

Does anyone want to hear my theory that the white Renault was being driven by Prince Edward or should I just head over to 4Chan?

m0nty
m0nty
July 26, 2022 6:19 pm

Nay Zippy, nay I say, I may be feeling a little hoarse but I am not going to eat horse paste. You idiot.

Arky
July 26, 2022 6:19 pm

Georgia and Chechnya? They are European only in Eurovision sense.

..
Third such recent adventure.
They have form.
In Europe or not. It matters not.
They are an expansionist state and will exploit percieved weakness, hence waiting for Biden presidency

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 26, 2022 6:20 pm

TIK history fans might might like this.

Paulus should have broken out early? TIK’s response to Anton Joly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3HAuWbSCWI

Sometimes my eyes glaze over when it comes to Stalingrad.
In this one he goes over why Paulus stayed put.
What would have been better?
Suicidal break out attempt or what ended up happening to the Krauts.
As TIK says hindsight is 20/20.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 26, 2022 6:20 pm

CharlieP.
Right.
So they have classified themselves as a medical practice?
And they expect people to do moderate exertion with a mask on?
Fuckwits.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 26, 2022 6:24 pm

The reality is that most marketing people are low IQ simpletons who are mesmerised by bright colours and lack the charisma to actually sell stuff personally

There is usually some quality office fluff floating around. Always put your hand up if they are looking for people to go and meet the marketing guys.

Mater
July 26, 2022 6:24 pm

I do, but that in itself is not enough to qualify.

10% chance of death not good enough?

Could it be that your assessment of 10% was just made up horseshit, much like everything you say?

JC
JC
July 26, 2022 6:25 pm

Can I just make a few comments about the recent visitor.

I don’t go over to the other site, but someone pointed it out to me.

A few days ago, the Thought Leader was at the Lollipop blog critical of this site and saying how he found the Lollipop Cat a nice haven for thought leadership such as himself and would reside there now. He tried to yank a few chains from there, like mine I was told. Anyway, an amusing thing happened. The blog owner, Adam , go onto the site and informed HIS Leadership not to criticize other blogs or he’d receive a size 10 hobnail from there.
Hilarious.
Now here he is. LOL

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 26, 2022 6:25 pm

RAT tests are crap

Only for the nasally timid. You’ve really got to get that bud up there and do the twist.
‘Round and’ round and’ round and’

JC
JC
July 26, 2022 6:26 pm

Adam Lollipop:

You can visit whatever websites you want to – but please do not carry over battles from other blogs here and turn this one into a garbage pit. If you disagree with what someone is saying on another site, deal with it there. Or elsewhere. But not here.

hahahahhahaha

Winston Smith
July 26, 2022 6:31 pm

sfw:
I forgot to add – the best preservative bottle are the Moccona bottles with the seal intact. Many different sizes, but good and solid.
Get one of neighbours to get a bee hive. Good trading staple. There are many types available and this is one of the easiest to learn on.
Last thing and I’ll shut up – Water.
No one thinks about it because it’s always there. But sometimes it isn’t.
Get a rainwater tank. Many manufacturers in Australia – hint: 3 x 10,000 liters is more handy than 1 x 30,000 liters, in case one gets a leak, and you can transfer between tanks at the garage, house, etc. Link gives prices but not necessarily recommendations.

m0nty
m0nty
July 26, 2022 6:33 pm

10% chance of death not good enough?

Evidently not. They are trying to catch conditions other than heart disease, not sure why they exclude it but that’s their decision.

m0nty
m0nty
July 26, 2022 6:34 pm

My best guess is that too many people would qualify if they included heart disease, it’s an expensive treatment.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 26, 2022 6:34 pm

Today Des Hasler ensured that his pipeline of Polynesian players did not get turned off.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 26, 2022 6:34 pm
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 26, 2022 6:38 pm

Green voters.
Are you not amused.
This is exactly what you want, people unable to consume and despoil that old slut Gaia’s sacred naughty bits…

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/jul/26/energy-bills-will-plunge-millions-into-unmanageable-debt-warn-mps-ofgem
Millions of people will be plunged into “unmanageable” debt this winter unless the government comes up with more support for those struggling to pay their energy bills, MPs have warned.

In a report focusing on how to ease punishing energy costs now, while guarding against future crises, the business and energy select committee said:

The energy price cap should be replaced with a “social tariff”.
The energy regulator Ofgem has been “negligent”.
A national home insulation programme should be launched urgently.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 26, 2022 6:40 pm

One of my staff’s father had COVID last week.
He’s a Chinese citizen ie no medicare card.
He’s 60 years old with heart issues.
He popped into Royal North Shore & they offered him Paxlovid for $1200 for the course of treatment.
Which he took up.
Not sure what his day in hospital cost him.
I’ll ask.

Diogenes
Diogenes
July 26, 2022 6:42 pm

Suicidal break out attempt or what ended up happening to the Krauts.

My granduncle spoke warmly of Paulus even if he did become “einer verdammte Kommunist”. So from a guy who was there, and was evacuated in the last days evacuation flights were possible, having had lost his arm, that says something.

Given the Germans and Russians were still literally fighting for individual houses inside Stalingrad, if an “uncoordinated breakout” had been ordered it would have been like Napoleon’s retreat from Moscow.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 26, 2022 6:49 pm

During this Pride round a few commentators have gone over the top saying Ian Roberts was the hardest man to play the game.
He was a weapon, but I’d put David Gillespie, Les Davidson & Peter Kelly all ahead of Roberts.
And for all the hype, Gillmeister had a great hi lights reel but not much more.
PS, please don’t tell Gillmeister I said that about him.

Mater
July 26, 2022 6:50 pm

My best guess is that too many people would qualify if they included heart disease, it’s an expensive treatment.

My best guess is that it’s a nothing burger for someone of your age, but that goes against the bullshit you’ve been spruiking for two years, whilst cheering as peoples lives were being destroyed.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 26, 2022 6:50 pm

If pushed I’d say that Peter Kelly bloke was toughest I have seen.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 26, 2022 6:54 pm

It shouldn’t be lost in the jumper situation that Bob Fulton’s grandson will make his debut for Manly this week.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 26, 2022 6:56 pm

Spot of spacechooking for Cats, with an interest in matters military.

David Horner’s latest book – “The War Game – Australian War leadership from Gallipoli to Iraq” makes interesting reading – “How and why Australia went to war, and how it managed nine conflicts between the First World War and Iraq.”

“Wartime Prime Minister, John Curtin, visited RAAF bomber squadrons in Lincolnshire, before D-Day, and watched the aircraft take off for Europe. As the bombers neared the coast of France, he sent them a signal. “Good luck – Curtin.” It was the closest he ever got to an operational theatre.”
(Page 189.)

Winston Smith
July 26, 2022 6:58 pm

Knuckle Dragger:

‘Attention poofs. Stop jazz handing, and making your problem everyone else’s problem. Sort it out yourselves without becoming the centrepiece of conversation for once.’

No can do,KD.
These narcissists are unable to cope with a world where they and their problems are not the center of everything.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 26, 2022 7:04 pm

m0nty says:
July 26, 2022 at 5:03 pm
I have the rona. So far I am sleeping a lot. Worst is yet to come.

Hopefully not.
I felt a bit shit, slept for two days, waiting for the worst – and that was pretty much it.

Dot
Dot
July 26, 2022 7:06 pm

During this Pride round a few commentators have gone over the top saying Ian Roberts was the hardest man to play the game.

Genius.

Cassie of Sydney
July 26, 2022 7:07 pm

“m0nty says:
July 26, 2022 at 5:03 pm
I have the rona. “

I hope you get better Monty. My sister has it too. Chicken soup helps……chicken soup helps everything.

Winston Smith
July 26, 2022 7:08 pm

Flyingduk:

The government IS your local crime gang … and district, and regional, and state, and national….

Now you begin to understand why the legislation to confiscate backyard crops and livestock was brought in.
It’s not about FMD or any other disease – it’s about forcing you to be dependent on a government that cannot support you after the disaster it has caused.
It’s about control.

rosie
rosie
July 26, 2022 7:11 pm

Hot lemon drink!

bespoke
bespoke
July 26, 2022 7:12 pm

Yes that is me mole but with a blue singlet.

Tom
Tom
July 26, 2022 7:12 pm

Monty, even though I have no respect for you because you have willed yourself to be dumb to comply
with the leftism that endumbens you, at least you can acknowledge reality — i.e., Kung Flu is everywhere.

I live in hope that, in order to protect your family, you will eventually abandon the stupidity you have embraced.

Best regards.

Winston Smith
July 26, 2022 7:15 pm

Wodger:

Dom Perrottet bows to calls to permanently fly Pride flag on Sydney Harbour Bridge.

Where’s my drone with a little flamethrower attachment?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 26, 2022 7:16 pm

Elbow.

“He wasn’t the first gay man to play rugby league, I’ll give you the big tip.”

No thanks Luigi.

m0nty
m0nty
July 26, 2022 7:19 pm

Of course it’s everywhere, Tom. I got it from my Mum who got it from my sister’s father-in-law on a recent trip to Perth.

Apparently to takes 5-10 days for the worst of it to hit, so I’m not looking forward to that.

calli
calli
July 26, 2022 7:21 pm

Still alive! And Covid free. I am Legend. 😀

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 26, 2022 7:23 pm

Give it a break Monty.
You’re talking yourself into it.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 26, 2022 7:24 pm

My lady friend had COVID a month ago.
Was over it in 3-4 days.
She is still coughing her guts up a month later.
I’ve accused her of sneaking Winnie Blues on the sly.

Zipster
Zipster
July 26, 2022 7:24 pm

But your God Dan said that you can’t get covid if your vaxxed. What happened?

4 jabs good, 2 jabs bad

m0nty
m0nty
July 26, 2022 7:24 pm

The wife rolls her eyes when I always go to the worst case scenario, and I know I tend to do that, but I tell her that’s my job as a dad.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 26, 2022 7:25 pm

Same here Calli.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 26, 2022 7:26 pm

PS, do they still make Winnie Blues ?

rosie
rosie
July 26, 2022 7:27 pm

I’m sure you and I aren’t the only uncovid Calli.
To my knowledge at least six of the adults in my immediate family remain untouched.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 26, 2022 7:27 pm

I wish you well munty. On the downside when you get over the coof you’ll still be munty and there’s no getting over that.

Real Deal
Real Deal
July 26, 2022 7:28 pm

He was a weapon, but I’d put David Gillespie, Les Davidson & Peter Kelly all ahead of Roberts.

I think that is correct, Bern. Tough guy no risk (ask Gary Jack), but I think Cement Gillespie was the toughest.

calli
calli
July 26, 2022 7:29 pm

All my lot have succumbed, the wimps.*

My parents and the Beloved and I are made of sterner stuff.

* naturally, I will have to eat my hat when I finally get the stupid thing.

Dot
Dot
July 26, 2022 7:30 pm

Very interesting. From 2017.

https://theconversation.com/could-taking-vitamins-in-huge-doses-produce-a-health-miracle-after-all-76472

The take away for me is everyone is different and probably need tailored medical care. I have a friend who has low iron, she should aim for the “side effect” of “too high” iron absorption.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 26, 2022 7:30 pm

Afternoon naps may be a sign of poor health
By Eleanor Hayward
The Times
10:31AM July 26, 2022
1 Comment

People who take regular afternoon naps could be at risk of higher blood pressure and strokes, according to a study.

Researchers looked at data from 358,000 people in the UK who were asked how often they slept in the daytime. Those who did so on most days had a 12pc higher chance of having high blood pressure. They were 24pc more likely to have a stroke over the 11-year follow up period than people who never napped.

Those who said they napped occasionally were 7pc more likely to have high blood pressure and 12pc more likely to have a stroke than those who did not.

Fewer than 5pc of adults said they napped most days, and 60pc said they rarely or never napped.

Frequent nappers tended to be men, smokers, daily drinkers, insomniacs and snorers. They were also more likely to be overweight, and had lower education and income levels than those who did not nap. Most participants, who were aged from 40 to 69, did not change how often they napped throughout the study period.

Under-60s who napped most days had a 20pc higher risk of getting high blood pressure, while for over-60s the figure was 10pc.

caveman
caveman
July 26, 2022 7:33 pm

I would throw Noel Cleal in the mix .

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
July 26, 2022 7:33 pm

If the NRL wants to bring the community together for a cause which many men could get behind they could have the ‘Stolen Foreskin’ round. Many men had their foreskin taken from them without their permission when they were babies. The NRL could sell turtle neck sweaters in your favourite club’s colours in remembrance. Hot dogs could be sold with extra long buns which completely cover the sausage inside.
Surely this has been discussed at NRL headquarters?

Dot
Dot
July 26, 2022 7:35 pm

Then we could have a Russia v Israel exhibition match.

Dot
Dot
July 26, 2022 7:36 pm

Peter V’landys is also an economic adviser to Biden.

“The technical definition of a recession is not a recession, because I said so, there is a lot to unpack there, we look at many other indicators so you are wrong!”

Winston Smith
July 26, 2022 7:39 pm

TFM:

The sheer number of petty empowered bureaucrats sent out to “manage” people were never going to just go away once the war finished.

I can’t find my copy of Speers book, but he recounts the story after the Stalingrad disaster, Germany was desperately trying to find replacements for the Eastern Front units that had been bled white – he spoke to the industrialists about the amount of taxes they were paying.
“You know how much tax you need to pay, disband your bureaucracies and send the men to the front.”
Apparently tax revenues increased and the army gained over a half million more recruits.
As to rationing, there’s nothing more important than counting columns of numbers, even if the war has been over for ten years.

rickw
rickw
July 26, 2022 7:40 pm

And yes, I am fully expecting the wife to test positive soon. She went for a PCR test on the weekend, still nothing.

I’ll go the Duk bet here, if she hasn’t tested positive by now, she’s not going to.

That’s right, we destroyed the country for 2 years for something that’s so virulent and new that some people are already immune to it.

Still waiting to test positive….

shatterzzz
July 26, 2022 7:43 pm

A major point about the Manly fairies “diversity” that isn’t getting the attention it deserves …
What should be a real concern is the NRL, apparently, happy with a possible “top 8” club fielding an understrength team in it’s “premier” competition for no better reason than “look-at-moi” … FFS!

Barry
Barry
July 26, 2022 7:44 pm

Covid19 has around a 17% secondary attack rate.
So the odds are good that the rest of the family won’t even get an asymptomatic positive case.

Winston Smith
July 26, 2022 7:45 pm

Big Nambas:

https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/queen-mary-university-of-london-study-98-of-monkeypox-patients-infected-by-male-to-male-sex-b8d9a506

Good.
Hopefully they will shut up when they’re dead, but it isn’t guaranteed, is it?

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
July 26, 2022 7:45 pm

If pushed I’d say that Peter Kelly bloke was toughest I have seen.

Geoff Toovey says “hold my beer”.

Arky
July 26, 2022 7:46 pm

dover0beach says:
July 26, 2022 at 6:51 pm
Again, all of these recent adventures involve territories formerly part of the Russian Empire/Soviet Union.

..
And again, this matters not one iota unless you believe that the English would also be justified invading old bits of the Empire.
So, again, that leaves us with the only valid consideration in all this being: what is in our interest.

Zipster
Zipster
July 26, 2022 7:48 pm

Apparently to takes 5-10 days for the worst of it to hit, so I’m not looking forward to that.

the fatter you are the harder it hits….

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 26, 2022 7:50 pm

rosiesays:
July 26, 2022 at 7:27 pm
I’m sure you and I aren’t the only uncovid Calli.
To my knowledge at least six of the adults in my immediate family remain untouched.

Yep uncovid & unvaxxed- wife – vaxxed? – 5 others in house covid positive all vaxxed – son & family all quad dosed 3 times covid – elder daughter only her and husband – 3 kids no covid – all vaxxed

Cassie of Sydney
July 26, 2022 7:51 pm

“rosiesays:
July 26, 2022 at 7:27 pm
I’m sure you and I aren’t the only uncovid Calli.
To my knowledge at least six of the adults in my immediate family remain untouched.”

I’m still untouched by it.

rosie
rosie
July 26, 2022 7:53 pm

Adam Bandt hates democracy and Australia.

“We don’t want to be in a situation where parliament may pass a bill on a Monday to cut Australia’s pollution and then on Tuesday that good work gets undone when the government opens big new gas projects that would blow that target out of the water.”
If we’re going to pass targets and put them in the law, we want to make sure it’s Dutton-proof,” he said. So it’s not something that can be unwound at a future date

cohenite
July 26, 2022 7:59 pm

Interesting

Frank
Frank
July 26, 2022 8:00 pm

test

cohenite
July 26, 2022 8:02 pm

Franksays:
July 26, 2022 at 8:00 pm
test

I wish I’d said that.

shatterzzz
July 26, 2022 8:02 pm

Sometimes my eyes glaze over when it comes to Stalingrad.
In this one he goes over why Paulus stayed put.
What would have been better?
Suicidal break out attempt or what ended up happening to the Krauts.
As TIK says hindsight is 20/20.

Sven Hassel gave a pretty good account of a fictional break out from Stalingrad in .. SS GENERAL …
Read all of his”Panzer” series starting at 14 years old but have only just come across a potted bio ..

Hassel served in the Danish merchant navy till 1937, when he moved to Germany to join the army. He served with the second Panzer Division stationed at Eisenach and in 1939 was a tank driver during the invasion of Poland. A year later he attempted to escape because of being mentally exhausted. He was transferred to a Sonderabteilung, a penal unit manned by criminals and dissidents. He served with the 2nd Cavalry Regiment and later the 11th and 27th Panzer Regiments (6th Panzer Division) on all fronts except North Africa and was wounded several times. Eventually he reached the rank of lieutenant and received an Iron Cross 1st and 2nd class. He surrendered to Soviet troops in Berlin in 1945 and spent the following years in various POW camps. He began to write his first book Legion of the Damned while he was interned. He was released in 1949, and was planning to join the French Foreign Legion when he met Dorthe Jensen. They got married in 1951. He went to work in a car factory. In 1957 Sven Hassel suffered from an attack of a sickness caught during the war and was paralyzed for almost two years. After recovery, he began to write more books.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 26, 2022 8:02 pm

Biden’s dithering irks White House staff
By TEVI TROY
THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

President Biden has taken a lot of heat lately for his poor leadership skills. One recurring theme is that he lacks the decisiveness needed for the job.

Perhaps because early decisions on Afghanistan and Build Back Better worked out badly, the White House these days is wracked by “bottlenecks and indecision,” according to CNN’s Edward Isaac-Dovere. Mr. Biden is consistently unable to finalize decisions on issues, such as tariffs and student-loan debt, that have reportedly lingered for over a year. According to Politico, Mr. Biden’s inability to decide drives his staff “a little nuts.”

He peppers them with questions. When he doesn’t get an answer, he uses it as an excuse to put off a decision while staff goes back to get more information.

Biden’s inability to decide is reminiscent of Barack Obama, who was famous for long periods of indecision, particularly on what to do about Afghanistan in 2009. Former Vice President Dick Cheney accused Mr. Obama of “dithering” on this question. Mr. Biden shared this view of his former boss. “I thought he was deliberate to a fault,” the future president wrote in “Promise Me, Dad,” his 2017 memoir. “ ‘Just trust your instincts, Mr. President,’ I would say to him. On major decisions that had to be made fast, I had learned over the years, a president was never going to have more than about 70 percent of the information needed.”

The 70% figure might have come from Mr. Biden’s decades in Washington, but it more likely came from Colin Powell. Powell had a 40/70 doctrine for senior leader decision-making, which held that if you make a decision with only 40% of the information, you are making it prematurely, but if you still haven’t decided by the time you have 70% of the information, you are no longer in control of events.

Decision-making is an essential demand of the presidency, and some presidents — including some of Mr. Biden’s most prominent Democratic predecessors — were especially good at it. When reporter John Gunther asked Eleanor Roosevelt, “How does your husband think?” she replied: “My dear Mr. Gunther, the president never thinks. He decides.”

Harry S. Truman may hold the record for most tough calls in a presidential administration. Four months into his term, he faced the decision of whether to drop the atomic bomb on Japan, though he’d never even heard of the weapon while serving as vice president.

He also had to make a tough call to pursue Operation Vittles, which created the Berlin airlift and allowed West Berlin to remain a free city. Add to that hard choices on whether to recognize Israel in the face of opposition from his top advisers, to defend South Korea from a North Korean invasion, and to remove the popular Gen. Douglas MacArthur.

Lyndon B. Johnson admired Truman’s decision-making ability. Doris Kearns Goodwin quoted him: “You know the great thing about Truman is that once he makes up his mind about something — anything, including the A bomb — he never looks back and asks ‘Should I have done it? Oh! Should I have done it?’ No, he just knows he made up his mind as best he could and that’s that.”

Johnson, who faced his own share of difficult decisions over Vietnam, made this observation somewhat wistfully, recognizing that he lacked Truman’s ability to decide and move on. “I wish I had some of that quality, for there’s nothing worse than going back over a decision made, retracing the steps that led to it, and imagining what it’d be like if you took another turn,” Johnson said. “It can drive you crazy.”

Decisiveness is an essential quality for all leaders. But presidential decisions are different. They can be made only by the person at the top, and they can have enormous implications with historical importance. They are also lonely decisions. Aides can advise, but ultimately the decision is on the leader. Credit, blame or both will fall on the person in charge. As Mr. Biden is learning, it isn’t an easy challenge, but something effective leaders must do.

-o-o-O-o-o-

Tevi Troy is director of the Presidential Leadership Initiative at the Bipartisan Policy Center, a former senior White House aide and author, most recently, of “Fight House: Rivalries in the White House From Truman to Trump.”

Frank
Frank
July 26, 2022 8:15 pm

I wish I’d said that.

Needed to regenerate the cookie by making a comment. The site was not loading properly since the previous one expired.

JC
JC
July 26, 2022 8:19 pm

Cronkite

Where are the crazy book titles?

rickw
rickw
July 26, 2022 8:19 pm

Dissection of a WWII Jack Boot:

(Kinda topical for Australia)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5m_SD-WhHE

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 26, 2022 8:22 pm

Opera House last nite for Il Trovatore, only about half the patrons, mixed but a lot of older ones, wore masks, and it wasn’t just the old in the 50% that did so. I expected it would be more, because notices everywhere said Opera Australia ‘strongly advised’ the wearing of masks.

The Opera itself was just okayish. The arias were well sung and the anvil chorus was very rousing, but oh dear me, the sets were awful – all video things in panels – and the decision to unaccountably place the thing in the mid-twentieth century was quite stupid, for the plot is about a witch-burning and has a violent medieval sense of passion and destiny. They had to use gypsy (Romani) colour to set the goodie hero into a circus context with fantasy angels and pseud0-devils just to add flavour, while the aristo Count, the baddie in the Romeo and Juliet scenario, had his entourage looing straight out of Film Noir, all trench coats and homberg hats.

The worst part was that Leonora, the Juliet figure, had a figure not to die for. Two groups sitting in front of us had departed after the Interval. Apparently they could take no more. She was huge, and when she appeared after Interval in a white frothy wedding dress even my imaginative capacities baulked.

Dear me, I whisper to Hairy. I cannot suspend disbelief any longer. No passion could throb with sympathy in my heart for this poor lady and the smaller Asian tenor playing her Romeo, valiantly feigning interest as she enfolded him with her great bulk. It only improved when in the last few scenes some kind costume designer had put her in a black coat over the white froth, which draped and covered a lot of it.

It had a few good moments if you closed your eyes and just listened, but why oh why can’t they leave well alone and stage an Opera in its proper time and setting? If a change works, then it is ok, but this one was so confused and contrived. It added nothing to have scenes of mid-20th century wars as a background picture and to have a nursing unit in wartime replace the heroine’s retreat to a monastery. At the last, the heroine suicided, the hero was beheaded and the mother murdered the Count proclaiming revenge, all these deaths hurried along within the last two seconds before the curtain fell.
Retaining a little of their earlier religious leanings vs their passionate intensity might have helped cushion the shock that the fat lady had so quickly sung her way out. Personally, I was beyond caring.

cohenite
July 26, 2022 8:31 pm

Where are the crazy book titles?

Reality is overtaking what was previously thought to be abnormal. For example classic book titles rebranded to be consistent with gender neutrality:

People With Vaginas and People Without Vaginas in Love

Of Mice and People

Little Women, Men and Nonbinary Individuals

A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Human

The Person Who Would be Royal

Rich Biped, Poor Biped

The French Lieutenant’s Peep

The Person Who Mistook Their Partner for a Hat

The Individual with the Dragon Tattoo

The Siblings Karamazov

Biped Bovary

The Being in the High Castle

No Country for Old Lifeforms

The Ruler of the Flies

The Senior Citizen and the Sea

Death of a Salesperson

Homo Sapien of La Mancha

John of Mel
John of Mel
July 26, 2022 8:31 pm

A couple of weeks ago someone here, I think, mentioned changes coming to a way GPs with their own ABN will work in medical centers. I can’t find this information anywhere now. Does anyone know what changes are coming?

johanna
johanna
July 26, 2022 8:42 pm

Brendan O’Neill nails it:

A professional managerial class drawn largely from the knowledge economy, and which primarily conducts its business in the virtue industry, has less and less understanding of how things are made and distributed. This is why it can magic up righteous-sounding targets for carbon reduction and nitrogen reduction without giving a second thought to what impact such cuts would have on jobs, living standards and the small matter of making food. These elites have vacated the material world in preference for the disembodied virtual universe of likes and signals, and the consequences of this are becoming clearer by the day.

As I mentioned this morning, the realities of feeding the population were driven home to inhabitants of the island called the UK in WWII.

Similarly, Chermany is discovering that relying on another country for a substantial part of your energy needs is fraught with danger.

I am beginning to wonder if the purpose of war is to reinstate reality to delusional polities.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 26, 2022 8:42 pm

Winston Smithsays:
July 26, 2022 at 7:45 pm
Big Nambas:

https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/queen-mary-university-of-london-study-98-of-monkeypox-patients-infected-by-male-to-male-sex-b8d9a506

Good.
Hopefully they will shut up when they’re dead, but it isn’t guaranteed, is it?

Not much chance. The “Love that dare not speak its name” long ago became the love that won’t shut up.

Arky
July 26, 2022 8:43 pm

Already addressed.

..
Circular argument.
You addressed it by again referring to the bogus idea that Russia could invade it’s ex- territories, why not, an idea that you justify by claiming that makes it not in our interest.
You are literally going on circles at this point.
Georgia borders NATO.
You have stated nothing concrete contra my argument that it is not on the West’s interest to see Russia continue to invade nations on her borders.
Of which this is the latest of three in recent times.
Once could be forgivable. Twice might be coincidence. Three times is a pattern.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 26, 2022 8:45 pm

rosiesays:
July 26, 2022 at 7:53 pm
Adam Bandt hates democracy and Australia.

“We don’t want to be in a situation where parliament may pass a bill on a Monday to cut Australia’s pollution and then on Tuesday that good work gets undone when the government opens big new gas projects that would blow that target out of the water.”
If we’re going to pass targets and put them in the law, we want to make sure it’s Dutton-proof,” he said. So it’s not something that can be unwound at a future date

A Parliament may not bind its successors. Perhaps Bandit should ask AnAl to put it to a referendum, to entrench it constitutionally?

Bruce
Bruce
July 26, 2022 8:51 pm

Johanna; Re. Rationing.

Don’t get cocky, kid, as they say in the classics.

I have my parents AUSTRALIAN WW2 era ration books in the archive. It went on for years after the war.

Common feature?

Britain and Oz were in the clutches of hard-left governments at war’s end. Both countries got the sort of scumbaggery that one expects from doctrinaire sociopaths.

The degenerate loonies of the verdant filth are MUCH more ambitious, this time around.

Vagabond
Vagabond
July 26, 2022 9:03 pm

Gilas wrote:

The interesting thing is that asking AHPRA to de-register oneself prior to the anniversary date (30th September) is almost impossible. I still haven’t succeeded and it looks like it may take well over a week. This from a bureaucracy which de-registers health practitioners on a sniff of non-compliance with the protean Byzantine regulations.

Honest question: Have any other health professionals on the Cat had the same experience?

In my experience the fascists at AHPRA were quick to demote me to “non practicing” as soon as I asked for it. They sent me a huge list of “thou shalt nots” but no refund. While I’m happy to be free of their monkey on my back with meaningless regulations, onerous CPD and currency of practice requirements. I was briefly sorry not to be able to refer, teach or continue research projects I was involved in but that soon passed. They really have thrown the baby out with the bathwater in the way they instantly make you go from a rooster to a feather duster. Years of experience and potential future community benefit down the toilet.

They did offer “COVID emergency workforce ” registration but I wasn’t interested in doing menial work unrelated to my previous specialty.

Now, several years later, I don’t miss it at all and am having a great time doing other stuff.

It can be tough, but I hope you have other interests to keep you busy.

MatrixTransform
MatrixTransform
July 26, 2022 9:08 pm

when I always go to the worst case scenario, and I know I tend to do that, but I tell her that’s my job as a dad.

Bad news, mUntard…
seems that yr the wife

Have a butter menthol and go to bed

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 26, 2022 9:09 pm

I’ll go the Duk bet here, if she hasn’t tested positive by now, she’s not going to.

Just remember ‘ A positive test is NOT a disease’ … if you aint sick, you aint sick

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 26, 2022 9:11 pm

To my knowledge at least six of the adults in my immediate family remain untouched.

Trust me, EVERYONE on this planet has been touched by COVID multiple times – if you didnt get a clinical illness it means you immune system dealt with it without you even knowing. At some stage, a variant will cross your path which does cause clinical illness, but that doesn’t mean you weren’t already exposed in the past.

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 26, 2022 9:13 pm

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/07/25/poll-nearly-one-third-voters-believe-they-may-have-take-arms-against-united-states-government/

Im guessing THAT is why our various governments are always so keen to take away said arms….

MatrixTransform
MatrixTransform
July 26, 2022 9:16 pm

Still waiting to test positive…

Same here.

Business partner and his wife got it despite being mega-boosted. They only got outta covid-jail last Friday.

Personally, I believe I already had the thing in May 2019. Got sick within a hour after the flu vax and was pretty shit until November.

Who knows, eh?

P
P
July 26, 2022 9:22 pm

Trust me, EVERYONE on this planet has been touched by COVID multiple times – if you didnt get a clinical illness it means you immune system dealt with it without you even knowing. At some stage, a variant will cross your path which does cause clinical illness, but that doesn’t mean you weren’t already exposed in the past.

It may be possible that the BCG vaccine may have enhanced resistance to Covid-19 although not yet proven.

Bruce
Bruce
July 26, 2022 9:24 pm

@ Mother Lode:

Stalin, Mao, etc?

Always fun to remind folk that the nazi party’s original street-fighters, the “brownshirts”, turned out to be gayer than laughter.

There is a book that addresses the matter; “The Pink Swastika”.

The S.A. became such an embarrassment that there was an incident known as “The Night of the Long Knives”.

REAL Politik, as the Teutonic cousins say.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 26, 2022 9:25 pm

For some unknown reason I don’t appreciate Verdi, Lizzie. Puccini I love, having seen a few. Don’t like modern interpretations. Having said that I like Bell Shakespeare modern versions.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 26, 2022 9:26 pm

Harry S. Truman may hold the record for most tough calls in a presidential administration. Four months into his term, he faced the decision of whether to drop the atomic bomb on Japan, though he’d never even heard of the weapon while serving as vice president.

I don’t have a reference, but I did read one account that said Bess Truman was FURIOUS when the atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima – Harry hadn’t told her!!!!

Arky
July 26, 2022 9:38 pm

dover0beach says:
July 26, 2022 at 9:16 pm

..
Alright. I get the impression you are bored with it now.
Thanks for the discussion today.
I think we’re left with we will see what we will see in the months ahead, and it will get interesting if it extends into a Republican Senate and house and a lame duck Biden presidency.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 26, 2022 9:42 pm

The Pink Swastika”.

One of the authors of which was an Orthodox Jew….

rosie
rosie
July 26, 2022 9:47 pm

When calli I and others say we haven’t had covid, it ought to go without saying we haven’t been sick.
I’ve said before if I’ve had it I haven’t noticed.
I got pinged on the app in France for exposure on a long train trip but they took eight days to notify me and I certainly had no symptoms.
I did a test, as required, but it was negative.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
July 26, 2022 9:57 pm

Trust me, EVERYONE on this planet has been touched by COVID multiple times – if you didnt get a clinical illness it means you immune system dealt with it without you even knowing. At some stage, a variant will cross your path which does cause clinical illness, but that doesn’t mean you weren’t already exposed in the past.

Yep, the immune system doesn’t make sense until you realise that you only get symptomatic when an infection gets the upper hand. I’ve avoided Pfizer and its ilk to keep my immune system strong enough to ironically avoid covid.

Understand that old people get cancer because their immune system is no longer up to the challenge. Dermatitis is a small price to pay to fend off the really dangerous challengers.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 26, 2022 10:07 pm

Dot’s post upthread re vitamins is worth scrolling back to.

Frank
Frank
July 26, 2022 10:11 pm

again with the test

Winston Smith
July 26, 2022 10:13 pm

ZK2A:
From the Daily Mail.
Words fail me…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 26, 2022 10:13 pm

How Cambodian despot Hun Sen maps out control of Australia

Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen’s barely concealed foreign interference in Australia’s affairs is well known to security agencies.

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Stephen Rice
NSW Editor
@riceyontheroad
42 minutes ago July 26, 2022
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Cambodian despot Hun Sen has divided Australia into seven zones, each controlled from Phnom Penh by a high-ranking military officer or official in the regime, in which Cambodian-Australians are rewarded for allegiance to the dictator or singled out for punishment as traitors.

The network is used to conduct surveillance and provide reports to the regime on local opponents of Hun Sen, and has directly threatened violence against Cambodian-Australians, including former Victorian MP Hong Lim.

The existence of this barely concealed foreign interference in Australia’s affairs is well known to security agencies, but the local Cambodian community is now pushing the Albanese government to live up to its pre-election rhetoric and ban regime officials who use the threat of violence to enforce obedience by Australian citizens to Hun Sen.

Sydney lawyer Sawathey Ek has written to Foreign Minister Penny Wong and Home Affairs Minister Clare O’Neil asking the government to refuse visas to zone commanders and their enforcers, and to invoke Australia’s foreign interference laws.

Both ministers were vocal in their demands for the Morrison government to act against Hun Sen’s excesses but have been muted since taking office.

“Here is the result of years of neglect of your own community that allows Hun Sen’s party to build its influence in Sydney,” wrote Mr Ek, who lived through Pol Pot’s genocidal reign and arrived in Australia as a refugee in 1983.

“How much time do these people spend on promoting Australian values, as they pay homage to Hun Sen’s leadership on our soil?” he asked.

More than 57,000 people in Australia have Cambodian ancestry, according to the 2021 census, the majority in Victoria (23,498) and NSW (18,821).

The Australian zones – which take in every state and territory except Tasmania – are overseen by senior regime officials who report directly to Hun Sen’s eldest son and likely successor, Hun Manet, commander of the Cambodian military and a frequent visitor to Australia.

Photographs of Hun Manet sitting in the Speaker’s chair of the NSW parliament have been widely used as propaganda by the regime.

So, what the fvck do these security agencies actually DO to earn their money?

CharlieP
CharlieP
July 26, 2022 10:14 pm

And they expect people to do moderate exertion with a mask on?

Yes, they do. Another good reason to give them a miss, really. They have some skills I really need but principle must come before pain relief in the fight against Covidiots.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 26, 2022 10:17 pm

ZK2A:
From the Daily Mail.
Words fail me…

My compliments, Winston, and thank you.

Any Kittehs care to comment?

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 26, 2022 10:24 pm

Anthony Cumia reminisces about an old Marlboro ad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8d_1kCRYLE

Travelin' man
Travelin’ man
July 26, 2022 10:25 pm

JC says:
July 26, 2022 at 6:26 pm

Adam Lollipop:

You can visit whatever websites you want to – but please do not carry over battles from other blogs here and turn this one into a garbage pit. If you disagree with what someone is saying on another site, deal with it there. Or elsewhere. But not here.

hahahahhahaha

Haha indeed, Dover is coping with complaints about the hick-ups on the forum with good humour .
Lollipopman kicked complainants off.

Declaring someone a ‘dickhead’ is rather subjective I’d suggest lollipopman looks in the mirror.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 26, 2022 11:09 pm

bern:

They do still make Winnie Blues. Men, however, opt for Reds every day of the week.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 26, 2022 11:11 pm

Stolen Foreskin Round.

Brilliance, and one of the reasons I am fond of FlashCat.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 26, 2022 11:14 pm

I have as much interest in, and go to equal heights of disinterest in Russia v Ukraine as I do your average Fremantle vs Gold Coast game late on Sunday afternoons.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 26, 2022 11:16 pm

m0ntysays:

July 26, 2022 at 6:02 pm

I am not allowed into the kitchen. I am isolating in one half of the house while the wife and kids take the other.

.1 Lies. I don’t believe you would fit in half a house.
.2 How many years has Mrs m0nster said you need to stay over your side?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 26, 2022 11:17 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:

July 26, 2022 at 11:14 pm

I have as much interest in, and go to equal heights of disinterest in Russia v Ukraine as I do your average Fremantle vs Gold Coast AFLW game late on Sunday afternoons.

FIFY.

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 27, 2022 12:30 am

And again, this matters not one iota unless you believe that the English would also be justified invading old bits of the Empire.

You aren’t comparing apples with apples.

If there were chunks of the former British empire populated by a large majority of people that regard themselves as British (and the British also regard them as British) AND the fact they are no longer regarded as British by the rest of the world is a consequence of geopolitical forces outside of the control of the actual and the purported British, I think you could make a pretty good argument that, if Britain was able to bring those territories populated by people who regard themselves as British and are regarded as British by the British, then Britain ought to do so.

As it happens, Britain did precisely this, when the Argies invaded and attempted to annex the Falkland Islands. Nope, said the Poms, the Falklanders are Brits so that’s our territory and we’re going to take it back.

And they did because they could (just).

The collapse of the USSR weakened all of its constituent parts, and when the dust settled, a bunch of ethnically Russian ersatz exclaves were scattered throughout the former USSR.

Russia now is able to do what the British did in the Falklands. It’s not expansionist. I don’t see the Russkies eyeing the Baltic states or Finland. Occupying territory containing inhabitants that despise you is very costly.

Russia is correcting what it sees as the errors of the dissolution of the USSR that it was too weak to prevent at the time. Is it right or wrong to do so? I have an opinion, but ultimately….

THIS SHIT AIN’T OUR BUSINESS

Arky
July 27, 2022 12:53 am

Russia is correcting what it sees as the errors of the dissolution of the USSR that it was too weak to prevent at the time. Is it right or wrong to do so? I have an opinion, but ultimately….

THIS SHIT AIN’T OUR BUSINESS

..
Sure it is.
The USA took on that business when it financed the reconstruction of Europe after WW2, not to mention financing everything from D day to the Manhattan project to securing sea lanes globally ever since.
You might think you will like the world after the USA goes into that long goodnight, I guarantee you won’t though.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
July 27, 2022 12:58 am


m0nty
says:
July 26, 2022 at 6:19 pm

Nay Zippy, nay I say, I may be feeling a little hoarse but I am not going to eat horse paste. You idiot.

Better stay away from horse hydrator, too, Mønts. Who knows what it shall do to you.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 27, 2022 1:00 am

The Manly shirt saga has to be one of the biggest own goals in sport.

Just incredibly badly handled and the organisation deserves all the heat put on them.

Figures
Figures
July 27, 2022 1:36 am

Why are people wishing Monty well? Surely we are past the point of thinking leftists will ever reciprocate decency and respect.

He wanted all unvaxed to die and is an evil communist POS.

Monty, take 1000 boosters. If you don’t it means you hate science.

pete of perth
pete of perth
July 27, 2022 1:45 am

Monts. My missus tested +ve for the coof last friday(PCR). -ve Rats today. Me – no symptoms. No quarantining from each other. We Went for a nice walk around our suburb today despite the rules that the missus must quarantine till this Friday. She learnt her lesson … don’t get tested.

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 27, 2022 1:45 am

The USA took on that business when it financed the reconstruction of Europe after WW2, not to mention financing everything from D day to the Manhattan project to securing sea lanes globally ever since.

How’s that investment working out for the US today? Rich dividends being paid?

You might think you will like the world after the USA goes into that long goodnight, I guarantee you won’t though.

Don’t think what you think I think, as you’ve got me all wrong.

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 27, 2022 1:51 am

Incidentally, Arky, you didn’t explain why it’s our business. Just because the US muscled into that part of the world doesn’t mean it should have done so.

It’s not our business. And if it is due to the foolish actions of our leaders, we should be doing whatever we can to extricate ourselves from this business.

Doubling down on stupid is…well, I’ll let you finish that.

Winston Smith
July 27, 2022 3:22 am

Feelthebern:

Paulus should have broken out early? TIK’s response to Anton Joly

The entire race to the north of Stalingrad to cut the Volga so the oil at Astrakhan wasn’t able to get to the refineries at Moscow area apart from rail transport.
There’s one problem. The Volga froze over October/November so the ships couldn’t move the oil.
So why take the city?

Tom
Tom
July 27, 2022 4:06 am
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Tom
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Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
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Tom
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Tom
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Tom
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Tom
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Tom
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Tom
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Tom
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feelthebern
feelthebern
July 27, 2022 5:07 am

Tom, your avatar is now pink.
Is that for Pride round in the NRL?

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