Open Thread – Weekend 30 July 2022


A Wet Road by Moonlight Wharfedale, John Atkinson Grimshaw, late 1800s

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JC
JC
July 31, 2022 4:55 pm

Hahahahaha

A lot of people are wondering about the definition of recession. A recession is defined as two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth if a Republican is president. The definition is far more complicated and unknowable if a Democrat is president.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 31, 2022 4:57 pm

The internet tells me that the US and Chinese navies are squaring off in the South China Sea, around Taiwan.

I shall be a bit peeved if the world as we know it is brought to an end by that hideous crone, Pelosi.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 31, 2022 5:00 pm

On the previous page, scroll down a bit on the Twatter link “Say the line”. There is a photo of Linda Burney with three local aborigines at the Arnhem Land festival.

The difference in tonal shade between Burney and the three locals is stark. If I were one of them, I would not regard her as any kind of an indigenous “Voice” in Parliament either.

cohenite
July 31, 2022 5:04 pm

Thereโ€™s a special on Netflix about Shania Twain. Sure, sheโ€™s Canadian but boy sheโ€™s a looker

You’re hopeless head prefect. Shania’s ok but she looks like a chubby version of Rachel Ward. Get your eyes tested. Again.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 31, 2022 5:06 pm

Now on a different machine, laptop instead of desktop. Sidebar is still showing my comment of 4:35pm as the latest one, clicking on it gets Dover’s at 4:38pm. So it isn’t history or cookies.

rickw
rickw
July 31, 2022 5:06 pm

Referendum first, details later: Albaneseโ€™s vow

I wonder how this model works out for Albo in day to day life?

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 31, 2022 5:06 pm

Seems NOAA has been up to shenanigans with weather station placement affecting data in the US. Difference is in the US it is being called out:

https://www.heartland.org/_template-assets/documents/publications/2022_Surface_Station_Report.pdf

cohenite
July 31, 2022 5:06 pm

I shall be a bit peeved if the world as we know it is brought to an end by that hideous crone, Pelosi.

Somehow its appropriate. But it won’t end with pelosi. It ended when Trump was cheated.

JC
JC
July 31, 2022 5:09 pm

Ward has a dimple on her chin. Youโ€™re kidding Cronkite.

Any crazy book titles? You should do them like Tomโ€™s toons.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 31, 2022 5:09 pm

If I were one of them, I would not regard her as any kind of an indigenous โ€œVoiceโ€ in Parliament either.

Linda Burney’s mother was Scots, her father Aboriginal. 798,000 people in Australia today claim Aboriginal status – About 793,000 of them are of mixed race.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 31, 2022 5:16 pm

Vickisays:
July 31, 2022 at 4:44 pm

I guess only an antibody test would be more reliable โ€“ though I gather that even this test is not conclusive.

Vicki.

suspicion as to what was slight tetchy throat when back of house 5 had Covid 4 weeks ago

As Unvaxxed, but again healthiest in the family – aim to ask GP for Serology Test for Covid antibodies when I get 2nd Seniors Flu Vaccine in another week as well as bloods with Vit D

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 31, 2022 5:17 pm

PS Dover,

as always, instantaneous post above and update on sidebar which links back to above posted comment

rickw
rickw
July 31, 2022 5:19 pm

I really donโ€™t see the point of Pelosiโ€™s visit.

Trying to create even more uncertainty regarding chip supply, pushing Nvidia stocks even higher, smoke screening her husbandโ€™s already significant Nvidia insider trading windfall.

The CCP reckon theyโ€™ll shoot down her jet, not sure if they have the tech to pick up and shoot down a broomstick.

Rabz
July 31, 2022 5:28 pm

Mater says:
July 31, 2022 at 10:23 am

LOL – that’s one hell of a demolition job, Squire.

Not like he deserved it or anything.

#lamestreammeejabullshit

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
July 31, 2022 5:29 pm

Boambee John says:
July 31, 2022 at 4:47 pm

Your welcome. Who’s Monty?

rickw
rickw
July 31, 2022 5:30 pm

.1 What is a typical testing period for a new vaccine, to the nearest whole year?

.2 How long was the testing period for the mRNA โ€œvaccinesโ€?

All the supposedly smart people at my former employer completely failed to answer these basic questions. They all brought the bullshit that you could accelerate the normal testing regime without cutting corners.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
July 31, 2022 5:30 pm

dover0beach says:
July 31, 2022 at 5:06 pm

I really donโ€™t see the point of Pelosiโ€™s visit.

I do, let’s sort out the chinks while we have a small chance of winning, soon it will be too late.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
July 31, 2022 5:36 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
July 31, 2022 at 5:09 pm

If I were one of them, I would not regard her as any kind of an indigenous โ€œVoiceโ€ in Parliament either.

Linda Burneyโ€™s mother was Scots, her father Aboriginal. 798,000 people in Australia today claim Aboriginal status โ€“ About 793,000 of them are of mixed race.

I’m aboriginal of mixed race. Father born in Australia from Australian born parents. Mother Pom born of Pom parents, but I’m an Abo and that’s that.

Rabz
July 31, 2022 5:36 pm

St Ruth – you are about as relevant to this blogue as the Bird, minus the latter’s occasional (accidental) lapses into coherence.

Give it a rest, Squire.

The Furniture Store beckons. ๐Ÿ™‚

Vicki
Vicki
July 31, 2022 5:37 pm

If you have natural immunity but have not received a COVID19 vaccine, then there is a good chance recovery from a re-infection could provide you with potent antibodies that neutralize SARS-1, SARS-2 (and all variants), MERS and maybe even common cold coronaviruses.

If I understand it, VanDen Bossche postulates that if you have natural immunity it is unlikely that you will have re-infection with any variant of Covid, since it is most likely that your immune system will recognise at least some part of the spike protein. However, as with most matters to do with this wretched virus, this opinion is contested.

calli
calli
July 31, 2022 5:37 pm

I have to say how grateful I am that we have DocDuk and Gilas commenting here.

Itโ€™s like Dorothy seeing what goes on behind the curtain – Iโ€™ll never have the same attitude to doctors again.

If you have a good one, hang on to them. They seem to be as rare as henโ€™s teeth.

Roger
Roger
July 31, 2022 5:39 pm

I shall be a bit peeved if the world as we know it is brought to an end by that hideous crone, Pelosi.

At least Franz Ferdinand was, by most accounts, a decent chap.

calli
calli
July 31, 2022 5:40 pm

Chuckleโ€ฆnow Iโ€™ll have Bespoke calling me a suck-up.

Tra-la-la. ๐Ÿ˜€

Rabz
July 31, 2022 5:43 pm

calli – all the medicos in my family and ultimately the only ones I ever trusted are long dead.

That being my ol’ man and his two brothers. My ol’ man in particular is spinning in his grave at the obscenities visited on his beloved populace over the last two and a half years. He didn’t risk his life in WW2 for that.

P.S. I now avoid medicos like the plague.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 31, 2022 5:44 pm

Buy a JBL Flix 6 speaker ($200 on Amazon through New Cat) and throw in back. Play through your phone. Perfect.

I make very little effort to stay on the tech curve, as my fat back TV attests, but I make an exception for playing Spotify through your phone and a Bluetooth speaker.

Rabz
July 31, 2022 5:46 pm

At least Franz Ferdinand was, by most accounts, a decent chap, capable of spinning two songs into one.

Turn it up, Cats! ๐Ÿ™‚

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
July 31, 2022 5:47 pm

Speaking of medical testing, a few years ago my GP gave me some Prexige at the time a new anti inflammatory. wow it was so good that lower back pain I was having was gone after the second pill.
after a week or so I noticed my blood pressure rising a lot so I went off the Prexige and a week later my BP was good, so back to Celebrex and some pain.
6 months later there was panic as fully tested and approved Prexige was removed from use as it was a killer. I was contacted and told to return my Prexige to the chemist or destroy it.

So much for fully tested and approved medicine, and you want me to try an untested and only emergency approved drug? My message is short and sweet, get fucked.

rickw
rickw
July 31, 2022 5:48 pm

I do, letโ€™s sort out the chinks while we have a small chance of winning, soon it will be too late.

No need to. The chinks are on the brink of a massive internal collapse. Any conflict only gives the CCP breathing space by diverting the attention of your average chink away from the real source of their woes. The CCP.

John
John
July 31, 2022 5:49 pm

I’m saddened to see the demise of catallaxy-files. I found their informational wiki innovative and useful. I regularly read postings on this blog, hyphen and thecurrencylad.

However, as the Federal election proved, it’s the sign of our times. Hardly anybody voted for the freedom parties, even though there was lots of choice. Most people want even bigger government, gaining perverse satisfaction from their power to shackle the freedoms of others, ignorant in so doing, that they are enslaving their own. Hence their overwhelming votes for LNP socialists or Marxist Labor/Greens.

Some people here rejoice that many of the woke Liberals lost. LNP performance so far indicates they’ve been more than replaced by a new wave.

So, I suppose I should be grateful that there are still a few blogs supporting liberty, that are worth reading. But it seems that we are a dying breed.

calli
calli
July 31, 2022 5:50 pm

Rabz, the two standouts I have come across was the magnificent young neurosurgeon who saved my daughterโ€™s life, and more recently the ophthalmologist who saved my Dadโ€™s eye.

Both were the result of a misdiagnosis and negligence. By other doctors, natch.

rickw
rickw
July 31, 2022 5:51 pm

I was contacted and told to return my Prexige to the chemist or destroy it.

Force feeding it to the GP and the Pharmaceutical Rep wasnโ€™t an approved disposal option?

Rabz
July 31, 2022 5:52 pm

I make an exception for playing Spotify through your phone and a Bluetooth speaker

err, this sounds like some sort of justification for listening to lo fi music, Bear.

Bluddee hell, it was enough of an effort to set the Oppo up recently so I could finally try and mine the CD collection.

Meanwhile, Lizzie and Hairy are unable to plug their phone into their new Beemer in order to listen to some muzak.

The trials and tribulations we face. It’s enough to make you want to move to California.

calli
calli
July 31, 2022 5:52 pm

Theyโ€™re still going, John.

Technical glitch. AdamD has them up and running.

John
John
July 31, 2022 5:54 pm

Calli – nope. Got a namecheap screen.

Eyrie
Eyrie
July 31, 2022 5:56 pm

Seems to have fallen over again in the last hour or so.

Rabz
July 31, 2022 5:57 pm

calli, my ophthalmologist (who thankfully I only had to see twice a couple of years ago) is now also dead.

He was in my year at school.

A very jovial fellow, he was also a qualified MD.

Oh – and he was of Rooshan heritage.

He’ll remain much missed, especially by his wife and kiddies. Taken way too early from this planet.

rickw
rickw
July 31, 2022 5:57 pm

Klaus gives Jacinda an elephant stamp:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GuFhj0XT2s

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
July 31, 2022 5:58 pm

rickw says:
July 31, 2022 at 5:48 pm

I do, letโ€™s sort out the chinks while we have a small chance of winning, soon it will be too late.

No need to. The chinks are on the brink of a massive internal collapse. Any conflict only gives the CCP breathing space by diverting the attention of your average chink away from the real source of their woes. The CCP.

I can’t argue with that. I agree that the CCP is in trouble financially but they may recover and if they do we are done.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 31, 2022 5:58 pm

Socialism works really really well until you run out of money.

Argentinaโ€™s Government Collapsing, People Refuse To Work Amid Major Subsidy Cuts (31 Jul)

Cuts to subsidies in the energy sector based on household income already began in June.

Other subsidies, including the countryโ€™s notorious welfare program, are also on the chopping block, triggering thousands of angry residents to take to the streets.

State-sponsored aid for civilians has soared in the past 20 years, leaving 22 million Argentinians dependent on some form of government assistance.

In the first quarter of 2022, the national employment rate was 43 percent, according to government figures.

Harry Lorenzo, chief finance officer of Income Based Research, told The Epoch Times the spending habits of Argentinaโ€™s government are at the root of the escalating problem.

โ€œThe Argentine government has been grappling with a collapsing economy for some time now. The main reason for this is the governmentโ€™s unsustainable spending, which has been funded in part by generous welfare programs,โ€ Lorenzo explained.

Maybe Argy voters should stop voting for lefties. It’s a thought. After all every single lefty government since Eva was sultry has promised the moon and the stars then left you in the excrement.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 31, 2022 6:01 pm

Question.
Why did you mess around with the thing as it was working before you went under the hood?

Half the time youโ€™ll get some over the air update which kills off the one feature you use. Looking at you Instagram. Fuck Zuck.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 31, 2022 6:01 pm

I was born in London but claim I’m an Australian Aboriginal.

As you do.

Cassie of Sydney
July 31, 2022 6:02 pm

“However, as the Federal election proved, itโ€™s the sign of our times. Hardly anybody voted for the freedom parties, even though there was lots of choice. Most people want even bigger government, gaining perverse satisfaction from their power to shackle the freedoms of others, ignorant in so doing, that they are enslaving their own. Hence their overwhelming votes for LNP socialists or Marxist Labor/Greens.

Some people here rejoice that many of the woke Liberals lost. LNP performance so far indicates theyโ€™ve been more than replaced by a new wave.”

To begin with, I think there were too many freedom parties and it was distracting. I voted LDP here in Wentworth, I don’t regret the vote. As for the United Australia Party, I really think Fatty Clive, if he was serious about politics rather than being serious about playing the clown, should take a leaf out of Svengali Simon’s play book and, rather than run candidates in every seat, instead focus on between five and ten critical seats. But Clive isn’t serious about anything….he just prefers to be a nuisance.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
July 31, 2022 6:03 pm

rickw says:
July 31, 2022 at 5:51 pm

I was contacted and told to return my Prexige to the chemist or destroy it.

Force feeding it to the GP and the Pharmaceutical Rep wasnโ€™t an approved disposal option?

But but it was fully tested and approved, why blame the GP or salesman? I don’t blame my GP for spike protein poison I blame the Government.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 31, 2022 6:04 pm

err, this sounds like some sort of justification for listening to lo fi music, Bear.

Imma lo fi kinda bruin.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 31, 2022 6:06 pm

Iโ€™m saddened to see the demise of catallaxy-files.

John – Looks fine as far as I can see.

http://catallaxy-files.com/

Latest comment by JohnJJJ is at 5:57pm, so the blog’s working.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 31, 2022 6:06 pm

Hi-fi nerds are possibly even more annoying than wine snobs or middle aged guys talking about bicycles.

calli
calli
July 31, 2022 6:09 pm

Try this John.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 31, 2022 6:09 pm

Hobart is poised to tear down the statue of a former premier, while flagging a broader purge, after a report found the city had too many monuments to โ€œCaucasian malesโ€.

The city council has been considering the removal of the large Franklin Square sculpture of William Crowther, a naturalist, surgeon and premier who, in 1869, was accused of severing and stealing the skull from an Aboriginal corpse.

A new council report, to be voted on this week, recommends spending $20,000 to remove the statute to storage, pending finding it another home, and $50,000 on โ€œinterpretive elements onsiteโ€.

The report complains there are too many white men memorialised across the city and recommends a new policy be adopted to guide further statue โ€œadditions and removalsโ€.

Aboriginal groups welcomed the moves, but some historians expressed concern the council was โ€œopening the floodgatesโ€ to revision or erasure of colonial history.

Oz. They can park it at my place. I walked past it every day for years on the way to school.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 31, 2022 6:12 pm

It not like Iโ€™m looking to buy a new stereo.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dSINO6MKtco

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 31, 2022 6:12 pm

who, in 1869, was accused of severing and stealing the skull from an Aboriginal corpse.

Accused – nothing ever proven…

Rabz
July 31, 2022 6:12 pm

The most useful activities that young women can engage in (apart from serving drinks in a public house) is slinking around while engaged in a bit o’ singing and dancing.

If that makes me an ‘orrible ol’ sexist, Cats, then so be it. ๐Ÿ™‚

#modernlifeisrubbish

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 31, 2022 6:14 pm

after a report found the city had too many monuments to โ€œCaucasian malesโ€.

What about a statue of Jacquie Lambie?

Zipster
July 31, 2022 6:15 pm
calli
calli
July 31, 2022 6:16 pm

after a report found the city had too many monuments to โ€œCaucasian malesโ€.

Perhaps because Caucasian males did things that were noteworthy.

rickw
rickw
July 31, 2022 6:16 pm

But but it was fully tested and approved, why blame the GP or salesman? I donโ€™t blame my GP for spike protein poison I blame the Government.

The lack of GP sense of responsibility and ownership for the consequences of the drugs they deal out is how we got into this mess. The GPโ€™s are the governments useful idiots. They should have been a circuit breaker and they werenโ€™t.

Medicine is the only profession in the world where you can recommend a product, and yet can completely deny any culpability when it fucks up.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
July 31, 2022 6:16 pm

Men being real men.
Women being real women.

I can live with that.
Now, where’s my tea?

Zipster
July 31, 2022 6:18 pm

I do, letโ€™s sort out the chinks while we have a small chance of winning, soon it will be too late.

the longer we leave it, the more global destruction will result, best to get it over and done with

Roger
Roger
July 31, 2022 6:20 pm

Socialism works really really well until you run out of money.

It’s a cause of great anxiety to Jim Chalmers that most of his cabinet colleagues are unaware of this curb on their aspirations for the country.

rickw
rickw
July 31, 2022 6:20 pm

What about a statue of Jacquie Lambie?

Best I can do is a bas relief in stainless steel with a trough at the bottom.

cohenite
July 31, 2022 6:20 pm

Anyone got the video of Katherine Deves being attacked by trannies in the pub?

Vicki
Vicki
July 31, 2022 6:21 pm

So, I suppose I should be grateful that there are still a few blogs supporting liberty, that are worth reading. But it seems that we are a dying breed.

Not so. Even before the Covid/vaccine attack on our liberty, conservative blogs (though mostly overseas) abounded with rational and entertaining views of the growing Leftie insanity around us.

The events of the last two years, and as the economic and global political apocalypse grows more threatening, I suspect our numbers will grow exponentially.

calli
calli
July 31, 2022 6:25 pm

LOL!

Apparently Biden has a case of Rebound Positivity!

The language changes daily. Hard to keep up.

Vicki
Vicki
July 31, 2022 6:26 pm

the longer we leave it, the more global destruction will result, best to get it over and done with

Since analysts reckon that the limitations of the ageing population will pressure the Chinese CCP to make a move to assert control over the Pacific in the next 5-7 years, I reckon we donโ€™t have long to wait.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 31, 2022 6:28 pm

Jackie Jacqui is a north Tasmanian.

The north and south of the state hate each other with a vengeance.

vr
vr
July 31, 2022 6:28 pm

Hi-fi nerds are possibly even more annoying than wine snobs or middle aged guys talking about bicycles.

Don’t forget to include middle-aged men talking about comics in this list.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 31, 2022 6:29 pm

Big_Nambassays:
July 31, 2022 at 5:29 pm
Boambee John says:
July 31, 2022 at 4:47 pm

Your welcome. Whoโ€™s Monty?

The village idiot.

rosie
rosie
July 31, 2022 6:30 pm

โ€œno doubtโ€ = โ€œin my opinionโ€
True for every single comment made here.
Isn’t pneumonia a complications of flu?

Rabz
July 31, 2022 6:31 pm

Itโ€™s a cause of great anxiety to Dim Chalmers that most of his cabinet colleagues are unaware of this curb on their aspirations for the country

For my sins, I actually listened to him this morning on Dross Greenfilth’s business hour at Sky.

As an economist (i.e. one of the ones who’s only wrong about everything 93.1% of the time*) it was very depressing listening.

He did not make any sense. At all. Entirely unsurprising of course, but when did any of us last hear a collectivist pollie who was remotely capable of making sense?

It’s enough to make me want to take up BJ’s offer of being the next Ozzie treasurer. I’m qualified and ready, Cats. Not that it would take a lot of effort. The golden rules would be as follows:

Shut them down
Sack them all

Anyone of any use in this country would find it all quite painless.

*As opposed to the ones who are wrong about everything, all the time ๐Ÿ˜•

Roger
Roger
July 31, 2022 6:33 pm

Donโ€™t forget to include middle-aged men talking about comics in this list.

Trains v. Trucks.

John
John
July 31, 2022 6:34 pm

I think there were too many freedom parties

I suppose if it’s not diarrhea then it’s constipation. The number of parties would be irrelevant, using the power of preferential voting, if a significant number of voters really wanted freedom. The aim of running candidates in every seat was to maximise their Senate votes. The abject failure is that most Australians are scared to be free.

Maybe Argy voters should stop voting for lefties

Likewise Australian sheeple are confident that wreckage caused by big government can be solved by even bigger government.

By the way, in my day we didn’t have a human rights commision, anti-discrimination commission or a truth commissar. People solved their own problems and it worked superbly. View “They’re a Wierd Mob” on Netflix to see how this worked.

Lawyers make their money by provoking arguments amongst people. Without fanning racial hatreds, the extravagently paid lawyers working for the Racial Discrimination Commission would be out of a job.

I think Albanese well understands Australians and the voting system, otherwise he wouldn’t have been elected as Prime Minister. He seems to be very confident his shadow Aboriginal Parliament will pass the Constitution vote without any details. I wouldn’t be surprised.

Rabz
July 31, 2022 6:35 pm

Katherine Deves being attacked by trannies in the pub

If she’d turned up at the Civic, her problems would have been “long over”, so to speak.

rickw
rickw
July 31, 2022 6:36 pm

the longer we leave it, the more global destruction will result, best to get it over and done with

The CCP is facing a demographic cliff, of their own making.

Trying to have a competitive communist country ends up with lying flat. You might be able to entice people into a bought of productivity, but in the end it fails because youโ€™re ultimately bullshitting them.

I think the potential problem will resolve itself, internally, within China. Thatโ€™s not to say that we shouldnโ€™t carry a big stick. (As opposed to Australiaโ€™s floppy rainbow stick.)

miltonf
miltonf
July 31, 2022 6:36 pm

Perhaps because Caucasian males did things that were noteworthy.

in the marxist world view, skill are achievement or irrelevant- someone with a BA or BA LLB is held in higher regard than an electrician or engineer or farmer

Roger
Roger
July 31, 2022 6:36 pm

Itโ€™s enough to make me want to take up BJโ€™s offer of being the next Ozzie treasurer. Iโ€™m qualified and ready, Cats.

Just promise me one thing:

You won’t tone down the language once in office.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 31, 2022 6:36 pm

Resistance, by Halik Kochanski, Page 792

A Dutch officer was serving alongside the Canadian troops who liberated the town of Apeldoorn in 1944.

“And then a little girl with long golden hair tugged her father’s hand and cried “Look, Papa, a Dutch Lion!” She had spotted the emblem of the Netherlands Army. The father peered at me more closely , then threw up his hands and shouted “A Dutch officer!” The crowd surged around us. I was dragged from the driver’s seat and borne along shoulder high. Everyone wanted to touch me – to satisfy themselves I was real. As the first Dutch officer to enter Apeldoorn on liberation day, I shall never forget the scene of unalloyed joy, or the delight on the face of that little, fair-headed girl.”

Presumably it didn’t matter that the officer wasn’t LGBTGI?

Cassie of Sydney
July 31, 2022 6:37 pm

The “Voice”.

Read my lips…no, nyet, non, nein, nah, nope.

I hope that’s clear.

Cassie of Sydney
July 31, 2022 6:40 pm

“I think Albanese well understands Australians and the voting system, otherwise he wouldnโ€™t have been elected as Prime Minister. He seems to be very confident his shadow Aboriginal Parliament will pass the Constitution vote without any details. I wouldnโ€™t be surprised.”

I think you give Albanese and Labor way too much credit.

rickw
rickw
July 31, 2022 6:40 pm

Likewise Australian sheeple are confident that wreckage caused by big government can be solved by even bigger government.

+1000, the story of Australia.

m0nty
m0nty
July 31, 2022 6:42 pm

m0nty, if scepticism of a few products that havenโ€™t even received full approval anywhere in the world (only โ€œemergencyโ€ authorisation) makes one โ€œant-vaxxโ€, why donโ€™t you lead the way by insisting that you and your family get injected with recalled vaccines like Gardasil HPV, or Hib?
I mean if you have to accept everything thatโ€™s marketed as a โ€œvaccineโ€ in order not to be โ€œanti-vaxxโ€, surely youโ€™d want you and your family pumped full of every โ€œvaccineโ€ thatโ€™s ever been released, wouldnโ€™t you?

What an utterly stupid talking point. You really do have shit for brains, Tim N.

John
John
July 31, 2022 6:44 pm

I think you give Albanese and Labor way too much credit

I most certainly hope so, but not very confident. Time will tell.

Rabz
July 31, 2022 6:44 pm

You wonโ€™t tone down the language once in office.

Public office being a calling, Rog.

So, no. That regrettable tendency to state the bleeding obvious will never be toned down.

BTW, I nearly lost my job last week for telling a barrasite what I thought of him and it only took a mere four words.

rickw
rickw
July 31, 2022 6:44 pm

Australiaโ€™s institutions are corrupt to the core. Shrine CEO caught lying again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t3tEg7iUTU

Roger
Roger
July 31, 2022 6:44 pm

Likewise Australian sheeple are confident that wreckage caused by big government can be solved by even bigger government.

+1000, the story of Australia.

I fear/hope they’re about to find out that doesn’t work, courtesy the electrickery debacle.

miltonf
miltonf
July 31, 2022 6:46 pm

The LNP lost the election because they betrayed their supporters and the people of Australia. Pretty simple really. People elected LNP governments in 2014, 2016 and 2019 only to be treated with complete contempt. I voted for Abbot in 2014 and got Trumble and the Paris betrayal- enough’s enough. Still beyond me how anyone could vote for Anal though. Unless I’m mistaken, more people voted for Scummo but Commo preferences got the campus marxist in.

Why all the hand wringing about suspected demise of dash cat?

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 31, 2022 6:47 pm

Donโ€™t upset the trannies.

Frank
Frank
July 31, 2022 6:49 pm

Hi-fi nerds are possibly even more annoying than wine snobs or middle aged guys talking about bicycles.

Rather than Spotify the streaming site Tidal has higher resolution audio files. If you couple these with something like Audirvana (software solution) which upsamples the files and then send them to a good DAC via USB you can get better than CD quality, noticeably so. Of course you would need a stereo system of high enough fidelity to be able to hear the differenceโ€ฆ

rickw
rickw
July 31, 2022 6:50 pm

He seems to be very confident his shadow Aboriginal Parliament will pass the Constitution vote without any details.

I think heโ€™s wrong, everyone except inner city leftards are sick of being beaten with the aboriginal bat. On top of that, Australianโ€™s are about to enter a period of real economic hardship, they will turn down a vanity/stupidity project as a protest.

Cassie of Sydney
July 31, 2022 6:50 pm

Thank God for Senator Jacinta Price, some of her words on Chris Smith tonight…..

“The mainstream media are part of the gaslighting. They have got a lot to answer for. They are not connected to these people out in remote communities, they’re not interested in them. They’re pushing this gaslighting agenda which is like a dictatorship that suggests they’re using emotional blackmail to push Australians toward a “yes” vote. We have to be very very careful about this, emotional blackmail is not how we should be thinking when we proceed to any referendum vote”

The same template was used in the SSM debate, if you were against SSM you were smeared as a homophobe, a bigot and so on, with this “Voice’ nonsense we’ll be smeared as racist, racist, racist.

So be it. Names can’t hurt me. I don’t care anymore.

JC
JC
July 31, 2022 6:52 pm

Half the time youโ€™ll get some over the air update which kills off the one feature you use. Looking at you Instagram. Fuck Zuck.

Bear, youโ€™re an influencer?

miltonf
miltonf
July 31, 2022 6:53 pm

It’s interesting re this ‘big government’ thing- weren’t all these ‘privatisations’ meant to make big government a thing of the past? We actually are less free that when the Commonwealth Bank, TAA, Qantas and Telecom were owned by the feds. I can’t say it kept me awake at night the phones where a Commonwealth responsibility. Nor could I get too excited about the privatisation Telstra- just lotsa fees for Boston Consulting.

Rabz
July 31, 2022 6:54 pm

“Inflation is going to peak at 7.75% at some point in the near or not so near future…”

Excruciating.

This is what passes for economic prognostication/analysis nowadays.

Virgin, meet a Gaia enthused Volcano.

John
John
July 31, 2022 6:57 pm

The LNP lost the election because they betrayed their supporters and the people of Australia

Thus, these so called betrayed supporters, using exquisite logic, decided to go full Marxist, instead of choosing freedom. Likewise, the many who stayed loyal to LNP, preferred to vote for a new wave of LNP wokeness, rather than the freedom parties.

This kind of thinking augers well for our future.

miltonf
miltonf
July 31, 2022 7:00 pm

Not sure how shadow portfolios are divvied up in the coalition but surely Dutton could promote JP. He damn well should.

Roger
Roger
July 31, 2022 7:01 pm

Itโ€™s interesting re this โ€˜big governmentโ€™ thing- werenโ€™t all these โ€˜privatisationsโ€™ meant to make big government a thing of the past?

It was big government selling the family silver so they could continue their profligate ways.

Rabz
July 31, 2022 7:02 pm

Anyway, it’s off to the basement, Cats. The red shoes have been donned and the marching into a tunnel has commenced. ๐Ÿ™‚

#pizzatime

miltonf
miltonf
July 31, 2022 7:03 pm

If you want to slag off at the electorate go ahead. In Victoria when elected 1 Nat, 1 Lib and 1 UAP and 3 slime.

John
John
July 31, 2022 7:03 pm

but surely Dutton could promote JP. He damn well should

Probably the expert on aboriginal culture, Professor Pascoe, convinced him she was a fake.

miltonf
miltonf
July 31, 2022 7:03 pm

I’m interested in solutions not belly aching.

miltonf
miltonf
July 31, 2022 7:06 pm

Someone here linked to a very interesting Quadrant article that pointed out that corporations, big business, can be just as evil and dangerous as big government.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 31, 2022 7:06 pm

Hobart is poised to tear down the statue of a former premier, while flagging a broader purge, after a report found the city had too many monuments to โ€œCaucasian malesโ€.

If we start purging statues, what about Al Grasby?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 31, 2022 7:07 pm

Probably the expert on aboriginal culture, Professor Pascoe, convinced him she was a fake.

Bruce Pascoe as part of the “Voice” to Parliament?

MatrixTransform
MatrixTransform
July 31, 2022 7:07 pm

I took absolutely no precautions, and went out of my way to get exposed to it, yet I took ages to catch the shit.

I will raise you a two year stint of serfdom and an utter disregard for mask wearing expecially.

Still nothing for me despite working every hot-spot in Melbourne.

Anybody who has worked in roof-space full of loose-fill insulation will be able to tell you why mask wearing to stop viral contagion is utter bull-dust.

A mask wouldn’t stop bull-dust either.

Roger
Roger
July 31, 2022 7:11 pm

but surely Dutton could promote JP. He damn well should

Federally, Jacinta is a National under Littleproud.

miltonf
miltonf
July 31, 2022 7:11 pm

Where else but Canbra would they has a statue of Grassby- says it all

miltonf
miltonf
July 31, 2022 7:12 pm

Fair enough Roger and Littleproud is part of the problem I believe.

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 31, 2022 7:13 pm

However, our flying duk reckons that just about everyone on the planet has been exposed to this virus by now. Lack of symptoms or even a negative test does not mean that your immune system has not just dealt with the virus. I guess only an antibody test would be more reliable โ€“ though I gather that even this test is not conclusive.

Nope, antibody tests, even if highly specific (which they may not be) can only look for antibodies. The problem with that is that antibodies are only one part of the immune system. If you defeat the virus easily (because your immune system is in good shape and has seen something similar before), you may not even need to produce antibodies, and even if you do, you dont produce them forever … if you did, you blood would be full of them.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 31, 2022 7:14 pm

Alway follow the money.

The ABCโ€™s Indigenous Affairs editor has said Aboriginal Australians deserve โ€œreparationsโ€ as part of the reconciliation process and that any Indigenous voice to parliament should be โ€œfeared and revered.โ€

Bridget Brennan was speaking as part of a panel discussion on the ABC current affairs program Insiders when she made the comments, which went unchallenged by host David Speers and fellow panellists, Q&A host Stan Grant and the Guardian Australiaโ€™s Lorena Allam.

โ€œThis has to be about justice, this has to be about reparations,โ€ Ms Brennan said.

โ€œIt has to be about giving some power to Aboriginal communities.

โ€œThe parliament will have ultimate supremacy, of course, but what sort of transfer of power does this mean for Indigenous people because that needs to happen,โ€ she said.

Ms Brennan also said that any voice โ€œdoes need to have teeth, it does need to be feared and revered,โ€ and suggested that something like indigenous Sami parliament which meets in Canada could be a model for Australia.

The comments suggested that despite Prime Minister Anthony Albaneseโ€™s comments that the voice is โ€œa simple proposition that is consistent with good manners,โ€ the jockeying over what powers an Indigenous advisory body might have has already begun.

An analysis of the 2021 report on the 272-page โ€œIndigenous Voice Co-design Processโ€ found that โ€œtraditional ownersโ€ were only mentioned 48 times while โ€œeldersโ€ were mentioned just 20 leading to fears that the process was being hijacked by professional activists.

Writing on Facebook Sunday, Senator Jacinta Price, herself a Warlpiri-Celtic woman, said that โ€œthe voice is being (led) by members of the Indigenous elite whoโ€™ve spent their lives on the backs of the most marginalised and changed nothing for them.โ€

โ€œThe voice to parliament is a gravy train attempting to ingrain itself into the constitution so despite its failures and lack of accountability can never be dismantled.โ€

Daily Tele

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 31, 2022 7:14 pm

Federally, Jacinta is a National under Littleproud.

I live in hope, I know, but a short “Apprenticeship” in Parliament, before being promoted to a Shadow Ministry?

Roger
Roger
July 31, 2022 7:15 pm

Hobart is poised to tear down the statue of a former premier, while flagging a broader purge, after a report found the city had too many monuments to โ€œCaucasian malesโ€.

What did Caucasian males ever do for us?

Roger
Roger
July 31, 2022 7:18 pm

I live in hope, I know, but a short โ€œApprenticeshipโ€ in Parliament, before being promoted to a Shadow Ministry?

I am confident she’ll prove herself worthy of such.

Indigenous Australians – shadowing Linda Burney – would be an obvious fit.

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 31, 2022 7:18 pm

But but it was fully tested and approved, why blame the GP or salesman? I donโ€™t blame my GP for spike protein poison I blame the Government.

Most GPs are just salesmen, thats the problem.

Eyrie
Eyrie
July 31, 2022 7:20 pm

Socialism works really really well until you run out of money.

Itโ€™s a cause of great anxiety to Jim Chalmers that most of his cabinet colleagues are unaware of this curb on their aspirations for the country.

Are you absolutely sure he understands that? I’m not.

Mater
July 31, 2022 7:24 pm

Hobart is poised to tear down the statue of a former premier, while flagging a broader purge, after a report found the city had too many monuments to โ€œCaucasian malesโ€.

So itโ€™s not about any wrong doing, itโ€™s really just about race based quotas.
Nice.

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 31, 2022 7:27 pm

after a report found the city had too many monuments to โ€œCaucasian malesโ€….
Perhaps because Caucasian males did things that were noteworthy.

Stefan Molyneux had an interesting take as to why the world was hell bent on demonising the very group (white men) who were demonstrably responsible for inventing/building/discovering just about everything that went into making Western Civilisation- well – civilised:

He said it was to justify taking their stuff – just as soldiers are not told that the opposing players are ‘ordinary decent chaps who just happen to be on the wrong side’ – no, they are told their enemies are evil, subhuman, nun rapists, baby killers etc to break down the natural reluctance of one man to kill another.

Similarly, if you want to steal the white mans stuff, its much easier to justify it if you paint him as undeserving, a bigot, a thief, etc etc etc.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 31, 2022 7:30 pm

โ€œThis has to be about justice, this has to be about reparations,โ€ Ms Brennan said.

This should be interesting. All the mixed race Indigenous, being paid reparations?

miltonf
miltonf
July 31, 2022 7:33 pm

All the mixed race Indigenous, being paid reparations?

Bringing this up is ++ungood as Andrew Bolt found out.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 31, 2022 7:37 pm

rickw

I think the potential problem will resolve itself, internally, within China. Thatโ€™s not to say that we shouldnโ€™t carry a big stick. (As opposed to Australiaโ€™s floppy rainbow stick.)

As JC has pointed out, Chainerr is dependent on oil coming through the Malacca Strait. While their new-found love affair with the Poot can reduce that dependence, it will not eliminate it.

Add in the demographic problem (exacerbated by traditional Chinese family culture – they will not be happy to see their only child or grand child killed in a lost war), and they will be gambling everything if they have (and even draw, rather than lose) a war in the decade. After that, the demographic cliff looms.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 31, 2022 7:44 pm

M0ntysays:
July 31, 2022 at 6:42 pm
m0nty, if scepticism of a few products that havenโ€™t even received full approval anywhere in the world (only โ€œemergencyโ€ authorisation) makes one โ€œant-vaxxโ€, why donโ€™t you lead the way by insisting that you and your family get injected with recalled vaccines like Gardasil HPV, or Hib?
I mean if you have to accept everything thatโ€™s marketed as a โ€œvaccineโ€ in order not to be โ€œanti-vaxxโ€, surely youโ€™d want you and your family pumped full of every โ€œvaccineโ€ thatโ€™s ever been released, wouldnโ€™t you?

What an utterly stupid talking point. You really do have shit for brains, Tim N.

Way to either completely miss the point, or deliberately ignore if, m0nty-fa. You spent months here screeching that everyone must take an inadequately tested “vaccine” to save your miserable existence. You remain too stupid to understand the issue (I note that you have ignored my two questions about vaccine testing processes earlier), which is that the vaccines were not put through the usual testing process. They have been released under emergency authorisation, while the manufacturers demanded, and got, complete indemnity from any damaging consequences.

MatrixTransform
MatrixTransform
July 31, 2022 7:45 pm

it was to justify taking their stuff

Yep

Not trying to be dismissive but, I’ve thought that was obvious for years.

miltonf
miltonf
July 31, 2022 7:46 pm

the manufacturers demanded, and got, complete indemnity from any damaging consequences

freely given by our miserable political class- absolutely shocking. What is Hunt trash up to these days I wonder?

miltonf
miltonf
July 31, 2022 7:48 pm

I can remember lez-fems going on about ‘white males’ at UNSW in the 80s. Hiya ejucashun has so much to answer for.

shatterzzz
July 31, 2022 7:49 pm

Caught a bit of Channel 7 “Games” coverage .. anyone know why Ian Thorpe has trouble dressing? .. wearing a suit 2 sizes too small plus buttoned giving him an upper chest look that Bill Shitten will be envious of & grungy sneakers .. plus why are these “7” men commentators all wearing open neck shirts that are specifically designed to go with ties not unbuttoned .. duuuh! .. soooo bloody ridiculous .. LOL!
Even the,normally, beautiful Cate Campbell suffering from the atrocious Channel 7 dress sense.. shame, shame, shame …….!
No idea what the “Games” are like .. after 10 minutes of “talking heads” explaining the, perceived, evils of social media on athletes, apparently, they are shocked and confused that folk are up to date on “games” gossip cos they can read it on their phones .. or somethink like that, anyway! ..
I gave up wondering what was on tonight …… LOL!

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 31, 2022 7:54 pm

Breaking News : The White House has announced that due to the risk of being shot down Nancy Pelosi will no longer visit Taiwan.

However Kamala Harris will make the trip instead.

Helen
Helen
July 31, 2022 7:54 pm

The other part (Chinese/UK/Irish/German/Afghan/ etc) should pay reparations to the black part – I hope they dont argue with each other too much.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 31, 2022 7:54 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
July 31, 2022 at 7:07 pm
Probably the expert on aboriginal culture, Professor Pascoe, convinced him she was a fake.

Bruce Pascoe as part of the โ€œVoiceโ€ to Parliament?

I’ve been thinking a bit about qualification to vote for (or be) “Voice” delegates. It has to be firm enough to eliminate the Pascoes of the world, but still allow delegates form all groups.

Suggestion: Voters and candidates must meet at least two of the following criteria.

.1 At least one grandparent or three great grandparents to be of full aboriginal blood (note that no Tasmanian aboriginal could meet this criterion).

.2 Fully initiated into their tribal/skin people group.

.3 Spend a period of two weeks each year, living the traditional lifestyle, with no modern devices or products to assist them (except for a mobile phone or radio, to call for assistance if needed. Spears, boomerangs, stone knives, bark huts, etc only.

Any thoughts/reactions?

Rabz
July 31, 2022 7:59 pm

the quacckines were not put through the usual testing process. They have been released under emergency authorisation, while the manufacturers demanded, and got, complete indemnity from any damaging consequences

Quacckinees:

“If that isn’t reason enough to have at least five or six* shots of the utterly useless toxins injected into you, then what is?

What are ya – some sort of anti vaxx weirdo?”

F*ck Off, you foul hitlerists …

*Or possibly seven or eight, mate, given we’ve got lots of excess stock to unload … ๐Ÿ™‚

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 31, 2022 8:00 pm

Bear, youโ€™re an influencer?

Nah but I get banned for comments to them.

Helen
Helen
July 31, 2022 8:00 pm

Fully initiated into their tribal/skin people group.

Hideously cruel.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 31, 2022 8:01 pm

The Voice. Treaties. Money.

It is plain to see. Can the PM just tell us what he has in mind financially, to the nearest billion. The how much annually.

Even if your family came here after WW2 you will pay to compensate others for something that at the nearest happened to their grandparents.

“The ABCโ€™s Indigenous Affairs editor has said Aboriginal Australians deserve โ€œreparationsโ€ as part of the reconciliation process and that any Indigenous voice to parliament should be โ€œfeared and revered.โ€

shatterzzz
July 31, 2022 8:02 pm

Dash Cat up & running again .. !

Admin says:
July 31, 2022 at 10:03 am
Apologies.
Some glitches in the system caused problems with connecting to this Catallaxy site, yesterday. Hopefully, all resolved and okay, now.

Barry
Barry
July 31, 2022 8:02 pm

rickw says:
July 31, 2022 at 6:44 pm

Australiaโ€™s institutions are corrupt to the core. Shrine CEO caught lying again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t3tEg7iUTU

If the Libs had a shred of testicular integrity they would drag the Shrine CEO fucker into a Senate Committee and expose his fabrication and hound him from office.

But they don’t and they won’t.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 31, 2022 8:02 pm

It has to be firm enough to eliminate the Pascoes of the world, but still allow delegates form all groups.

It has to be firm enough to rule out the Lidia Thorpes of the world….

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 31, 2022 8:05 pm

Itโ€™s interesting re this โ€˜big governmentโ€™ thing- werenโ€™t all these โ€˜privatisationsโ€™ meant to make big government a thing of the past?

GOEs arenโ€™t where the action is. APS and welfare. Half the time ownership doesnโ€™t even come into it – unless you start handing out Cartier watches.

miltonf
miltonf
July 31, 2022 8:08 pm

any Indigenous voice to parliament should be โ€œfeared and revered.โ€

sounds psychopathic to me or bpd

shatterzzz
July 31, 2022 8:09 pm

I was born in London but claim Iโ€™m an Australian Aboriginal.

I was born in County Durham but me Gran (mum’s side) was born in Golden Point, Victoria in 1859 so I’m, definitely, a starter in the reparations loot running ..

Mater
July 31, 2022 8:12 pm

Any thoughts/reactions?

I hesitate to humour this appalling brain fart (The Voice).

I will note that anyone with even a drop of blood in their veins, other than Aboriginal, is a direct beneficiary of โ€˜the invasionโ€™, and should not be eligible (except to pay reparations).

It is undeniable that half castes onwards would not exist in this country if settlement hadnโ€™t occurred. We are then left with only full bloods being eligible.

Once we legislate this, I think the problem will naturally go away, and we need not worry about further conditions.

Winston Smith
July 31, 2022 8:19 pm

Cassie:

โ€œVoice proposal a โ€˜step in the right directionโ€™

I’d like to have a voice in this travesty of Constitutional reform, too.
But seeing as neither of the parties have any intention of allowing me to express my voice, there’s not much to be done.
To clarify, if 70% of the Australian voting public want the death penalty for Treason to be brought in, but neither of the major parties want it, where’s our voice?
We only get to select from an a la carte menu, and for what it’s worth, that’s not my idea of Democracy.

shatterzzz
July 31, 2022 8:19 pm

It is undeniable that half castes onwards would not exist in this country if settlement hadnโ€™t occurred. We are then left with only full bloods being eligible.

excellent point! .. methinx all these “know-it-all experts” pushing the agenda haven’t twigged! .. LOL!

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 31, 2022 8:24 pm

Fully initiated into their tribal/skin people group.

Cruel but fair.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 31, 2022 8:26 pm

We are then left with only full bloods being eligible.

There are, at the moment, probably about ten thousand “full bloods” at the most, in this country….I would gladly see only them being eligible…

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 31, 2022 8:31 pm

Over at Quadrant, Peter Smith says he is “Buggered if I Know What โ€˜Prideโ€™ is All About”….

rosie
rosie
July 31, 2022 8:33 pm

There is no way recognition of aboriginality will ever be limited to full blood or 75 50 percent.
Just about all the current voices would be excluded
There is zero interest in even making it possible to identify Aboriginal DNA, not that not having any wouldn’t mean you didn’t have aboriginal heritage iirc
And I’m absolutely certain that while most aboriginal people can look back one two three generations and show evidence of discrimination and disadvantage but then again so can most people from most countries.
Just vote no.

Winston Smith
July 31, 2022 8:36 pm

Indolent:

This really does speak for itself. There have always been occasional sudden deaths of athletes but nothing like the last couple of years.

That’s a very incomplete graph – it doesn’t differentiate between deaths in the later years that were treated with the vaxxine.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 31, 2022 8:44 pm

Helensays:
July 31, 2022 at 8:00 pm
Fully initiated into their tribal/skin people group.

Hideously cruel.

Indeed. One aim is to reduce enthusiasm fir life “on country”, in the old style, and make modern civilisation seem more attractive than perpetual whining.

Dot
Dot
July 31, 2022 8:45 pm

1. Tasmania is our India. All we need is Pakistani ISI agents stirring things up between northies and southies.

2. I wouldnโ€™t mind if we had almost no statues of public figures. Cook, Artie Pip, Lachy Mac, Wentworth, Oxley, Sturt, Lalor, Parkes, Deakin, A I Clarke, Owen Dixon, Roden Cutler, Simpson, Dunlop, The Don, Wally Lewis, Phar Lap, Albert Jacka, Kingsford Smith, Florey, Farrer, Menzies, Clive Churchillโ€ฆthat is about all an objective NSWelshman can stand – or at least the objective standard a luminary ought to reach.

3. poor olโ€™ munter caught with his pants down again. The only โ€œtotally voluntaryโ€ (thanks Morrison, you blundering authoritarian idiot) vaccine I have ever turned down was AZ and Fizzer – I held out for the far less worse Novavax (which the Commonwealth CHO says now ALL vaccines are useless against BA 4 & 5). That is the point of view many cats also have on the subject.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 31, 2022 8:46 pm

The Gruenaid gets bitten on the arze…..

Guardian Australia deletes reference to โ€˜so-calledโ€™ stolen generations in Archie Roach obituary

Sophie Elsworth
Media Writer
An hour ago July 31, 2022
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The Guardian Australia on Sunday removed an offensive reference in its obituary of singer-songwriter Archie Roach, in which it was claimed the 66-year-old was a member of the โ€œso-calledโ€ Stolen Generations.

The piece was published following Roachโ€™s death on Saturday. The obituary stated that Roach โ€œwas one of the so-called Stolen Generations of Aboriginal children who were forcibly removed from their families by government agencies for almost 100 years, under protection era laws and policiesโ€.

The โ€œso-calledโ€ reference spurred outrage on social media but remained unchanged from Saturday night until it was updated in the early hours of Sunday.

A Guardian spokeswoman said on Sunday the article was a โ€œpre-written obituary and the copy was updated this morningโ€.

A clarification underneath the obituary was also added.

โ€œThis article was amended on 31 July to remove a poorly worded reference to the โ€˜so-called Stolen Generationsโ€™,โ€ the clarification reads.

โ€œThis was intended to introduce the term to a global audience and not in any way question the existence or experience of the Stolen Generations.โ€

Indigenous businessman and SBS board member Warren Mundine said using the phrase โ€œso-called Stolen Generationsโ€ was โ€œa big insultโ€, particularly to Roach, a man who โ€œwas loved by all Australiansโ€.

โ€œIโ€™m flabbergasted that they (the Guardian) would make comments like this within 24 hours of his death โ€“ itโ€™s quite bizarre. Why would you make those comments at any time?โ€ he said. โ€œThis is a man who suffered in his early life from that experience.โ€

Mundine spoke fondly of Roach and questioned why the offensive reference wasnโ€™t picked up by an editor at the Guardian before it was posted on its website.

cohenite
July 31, 2022 8:47 pm

PML has to have a token leftie on such as that POS reece; tonight he has a skank called linda scott who opined that if you oppose rub and tug’s voice you are a racist. I thought big Cory was going to start strangling her and fat-boy PML.

This typifies the right; play fair, give the grubs on the left equal say while the left are busy destroying and obliterating every contrary voice to their propaganda. Some of the right are getting it: Cory, Latham, our Pauline, Roberts, Antic etc but the mainstream are fucking hopeless, still afflicted with notions of fairness and that there are rules which allow that idiot, howard and his broad church to exist.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 31, 2022 8:47 pm

for life ….

Dot
Dot
July 31, 2022 8:49 pm

The RFDS guy gets a pass too, along with the poor Burke & Wills party.

Itโ€™s a high bar, but one that prevents statues of Robert Trimboleโ€™s little mates popping up.

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 31, 2022 8:54 pm

It is undeniable that half castes onwards would not exist in this country if settlement hadnโ€™t occurred. We are then left with only full bloods being eligible.

If you think about it, if British settlement had not happened, none of the current fullbloods would be here either … there would be other full bloods, but not the current ones – Australia’s history changed so radically since settlement that harry would not have met sally, who would not have met …..

Indolent
Indolent
July 31, 2022 8:55 pm

Thatโ€™s a very incomplete graph โ€“ it doesnโ€™t differentiate between deaths in the later years that were treated with the vaxxine.

Just in terms of logic, what other major change has there been in the last couple of years? But, quite apart from that, I suspect that elite athletes would be among the most vaccinated populations, both in terms of travel and mandates. Just look at the fuss over Novak Djokovic sticking to his guns.

Dot
Dot
July 31, 2022 9:00 pm

BTW, I nearly lost my job last week for telling a barrasite what I thought of him and it only took a mere four words.

Ooh, let me guess!

(Ricky Roma): You stupid $&@?ing c$&@!

Version 2: You lying $&@โ€œing imbecile.

The people have a right to know, squire.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 31, 2022 9:03 pm

From the Oz website, on the passing of Archie Roach. Year 10 children, being taught about the “Stolen Generation?”

Sherryl
22 hours ago
Such sad news. His story will live on. I am teaching a unit to a year 10 class this coming week on the Stolen Generation, and as always, I begin it with his song Took the Children away. This time I am also using some of the teaching material he prepared to go with the song and book he wrote.

Dot
Dot
July 31, 2022 9:03 pm

Monash – he makes the cut too, but no more public figures. No more entrants. No more public figures after 1966. Not even very lifelike wax figures of the hosts of Whatโ€™s Up Doc in the prime of their feminine allure.

Pyrmonter
Pyrmonter
July 31, 2022 9:24 pm

@ Dot

Bradman’s business practices don’t survive scrutiny (the modern term is ‘Phoenix’)

Macquarie was the founder of ‘Big Economic State’ Australia – EOG Shann was appropriately critical.

Pyrmonter
Pyrmonter
July 31, 2022 9:25 pm

Marginal Revolution link on Brennan (who belongs in Dot’s list, in replacement for a few others)

https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2022/07/geoff-brennan-we-hardly-knew-ye-rip.html

Winston Smith
July 31, 2022 9:28 pm

Top Ender:

He went to an auction and bid 10 pounds for a jeep, and got it. Wasnโ€™t going so he spent a few days trying to organise a trailer. When he turned up the depot bloke thought it a bit funny. Heโ€™d actually bid on a line of jeeps, and had actually bought 20 for 10 pounds.

What a time to be alive if you were a museum owner – Beaufighters, Spitfires, Hurricanes, Me 109s, FW 190a/d models, Churchills, T34, 88mm Flak, Nebelwerfer, Lancasters, Wellingtons, Ju88,87, 86.
I once had a picture of German armour in a stack (a Stack!) of about at least 100 AFVs on their way to the foundry for melting down. Tigers I & II, Panthers, Jagtigers, Jagdpanthers Mk IVs, enough to make a collector get moist over.
And now scrabbling for bits of bent superstructure to restore stuff that has been sitting in fields for 70 years.

Winston Smith
July 31, 2022 9:35 pm

Cassie:

More attention seeking. No one cares.

I care more for his dog who went to doggie heaven.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
July 31, 2022 9:40 pm

Bradmanโ€™s business practices donโ€™t survive scrutiny (the modern term is โ€˜Phoenixโ€™)

Bradman was an employee, not an owner or director. He had no responsibility for the collapse, and in fact was one of the creditors who lost money.
Yes, his conduct in immediately establishing his own business was inevitably going to be seen as opportunistic, but accusations of wrongdoing are unfounded. He was a convenient scapegoat.

m0nty
m0nty
July 31, 2022 9:47 pm

GhostWhoVotes @GhostWhoVotes
#Newspoll Federal 2 Party Preferred: ALP 56 (+3.9 since election) L/NP 44 (-3.9) #auspol

m0nty
m0nty
July 31, 2022 9:52 pm

GhostWhoVotes @GhostWhoVotes
#Newspoll Preferred PM: Albanese 59 (+17) Dutton 25 (-17 compared to Morrison) #auspol

LOL.

cohenite
July 31, 2022 9:55 pm

FMD, even The Expanse and The Boys get woke towards the end.

Wokeness seems to be an integral aspect of decadence in a mature society. The West won’t beat the chunks that woke progression will.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 31, 2022 9:56 pm

LOL.

Laugh while you can, monty. By the time the whole fiasco of a referendum into the “voice” has finished, Albo will be lucky to be elected council dog catcher at Bullamakanka.

cohenite
July 31, 2022 9:56 pm

Case in point, the fat little turd gloating about rub and tug. I thought it had long chunk virus.

miltonf
miltonf
July 31, 2022 10:00 pm

The fat turd has nothing worthwhile to contribute here and except the demonstrate the spite and malice the characterizes the fat turd’s lot

Wally Dalรญ
Wally Dalรญ
July 31, 2022 10:07 pm

Whitlam, Wave Hill, 1975
Hawke, Barunga, 1988
Keating, Redfern, 1992
Rudd, “Sorry”, 2007
All feted as historic, stunning and brave, all by Labor, and all (bar Whitlam) going on to win another election, sometimes more.
So who thinks Labor is just blowing smoke up our arses again?

(also available on twittster)

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
July 31, 2022 10:19 pm

The fat turd has nothing worthwhile to contribute here and except the demonstrate the spite and malice the characterizes the fat turdโ€™s lot

M0nty is an NPC, or as I prefer to put it, a zombie. He works to a script and is utterly incapable of thought. In fact by his own standards, he could be aborted; he certainly hasn’t attained full humanity.
I find him interesting in a slightly horrific way. He’s an example of what can go horribly wrong in human development.

132andBush
132andBush
July 31, 2022 10:20 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
July 31, 2022 at 6:14 pm

after a report found the city had too many monuments to โ€œCaucasian malesโ€.

What about a statue of Jacquie Lambie?

It’s still a Caucasian male.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 31, 2022 10:20 pm

Naughty minister!

NSW frontbencher Eleni Petinos has been sacked by Premier Dominic Perrottet after she was accused of bullying her staff.

The Australian revealed this week that Ms Petinos is facing allegations she called an adviser โ€œretardedโ€ and โ€œstupidโ€, and threatened she would โ€œkillโ€ them for making a small mistake, despite workplace safety being part of her portfolio responsibilities.

Late on Sunday night, Mr Perrottet said in a statement he had dumped Ms Petinos from cabinet after “further matters” had been brought to his attention.

“Today I spoke with the Minister for Small Business and Fair Trading Eleni Petinos after some further matters concerning her were brought to my attention,” Mr Perrottet said.

In light of these matters, Ms Petinosโ€™ service as a minister will cease with immediate effect, and I will write to the Governor in this regard tomorrow.

“Minister for Customer Service and Digital Government Victor Dominello will assume Ms Petinosโ€™ portfolio responsibilities.”

Ms Petinos strenuously denies the allegations.

jupes
jupes
July 31, 2022 10:27 pm

Naughty minister!

Hahaha. Typical Liberals. Sack first, investigate later. Hope they all fuck off and die.

Zipster
July 31, 2022 10:29 pm

Melbourne’s Shrine of Remembrance has scrapped plans to light up the site in rainbow colours after staff were threatened and abused.

The landmark was set to be illuminated in rainbow light on Sunday ahead of an exhibition celebrating LGBTQ personnel in the armed forces.

The exhibition and a Last Post service will still go ahead, however, Shrine of Remembrance chief executive Dean Lee said the lighting had been cancelled

.

jupes
jupes
July 31, 2022 10:39 pm

Melbourneโ€™s Shrine of Remembrance has scrapped plans to light up the site in rainbow colours after staff were threatened and abused.

Really showing the spirit of Anzac there, you pathetic pansies.

Winston Smith
July 31, 2022 10:42 pm

As requested:
JC:
October 19, 2021 at 8:59 pm
JC:
The bet โ€“ One clarification:
1. โ€œAnyone care to bet on the growth * in the Western World economy halving in the next 6 months and the inflation rate doubling?
Measured by G7 & inclusion of Australia, India and South Korea.
*Insert growth rate as a clarification, which is inferred if not explicitly stated.
2. The bet is for the usual โ€“ $1. (Thanksย Trading Places.)
I’ve left out the juvenile name calling because it’s so obviously ingrained into your personality as to be non negotiable.

Dot
Dot
July 31, 2022 11:14 pm

miltonf says:
July 31, 2022 at 6:53 pm
Itโ€™s interesting re this โ€˜big governmentโ€™ thing- werenโ€™t all these โ€˜privatisationsโ€™ meant to make big government a thing of the past? We actually are less free that when the Commonwealth Bank, TAA, Qantas and Telecom were owned by the feds. I canโ€™t say it kept me awake at night the phones where a Commonwealth responsibility. Nor could I get too excited about the privatisation Telstra- just lotsa fees for Boston Consulting.

Youโ€™re not wrong, but so what?

Kyoto Treaty
Public Health Acts
National Firearms Agreements
Various National security laws
Recent and absurd data retention and snooping laws
John Howardโ€™s middle class welfare*

Have nothing at all to do with privatisation.

*Maybe the public want their cake and to eat it too.

The NBN is the greatest argument against government ownership and Gillard buying Star Track express simply was done out of spite to fuck up and future, simple privatisation of AusPost.

The fact that Gillard did it is a good reverse indicator that it ought to be privatised.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
July 31, 2022 11:22 pm

The parliament will have ultimate supremacy, of course

Why the fuck would that be considered a selling point??

Winston Smith
July 31, 2022 11:23 pm

Perlexed of Brisbane:

How about a proper referendum on SSM instead of the plebiscite?

Seeing that they;re determined to have a Referendum why not put several of them on the one docket?
.1 The Aparthied Voice,
.2 SSM,
.3 Voucher School Tickets,
.4 Nuclear Power Generation,
.5 ???
Any more?

Travelin' man
Travelin’ man
July 31, 2022 11:34 pm

miltonf says:
July 31, 2022 at 6:46 pm

Why all the hand wringing about suspected demise of dash cat?

Beats me, hardly anyone from here goes there, maybe Jo and Delta.
Not that there is any reason to either.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
July 31, 2022 11:38 pm

Major pile ups during the women’s Tour de France. Now two horrific incidents in mens’ cycling at the C’weath games with concussions, broken bones, injured spectators, and the stadium closed.

What’s going on with that sport?

2dogs
August 1, 2022 12:23 am

Didn’t Shania Twain’s home town, which had in her heyday built a tourist attraction about her, subsequently destroy said tourist attraction to build a huge mine?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 1, 2022 12:26 am

1 August.

Happy birthday to all you horses.

Enjoy your remaining 8 – 38 months.

Winston Smith
August 1, 2022 12:29 am

Roger:

At least Franz Ferdinand was, by most accounts, a decent chap.

Appalling taste in hats, but.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 1, 2022 12:50 am

Enjoy your remaining 8 โ€“ 38 months

Like thands through the hourglath …

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 1, 2022 12:54 am

they are told their enemies are evil, subhuman, nun rapists, baby killers

That propaganda may have worked in WW1 but these behaviours would now be considered stunning and brave.

Tom
Tom
August 1, 2022 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
August 1, 2022 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
August 1, 2022 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
August 1, 2022 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
August 1, 2022 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
August 1, 2022 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
August 1, 2022 4:05 am
Top Ender
Top Ender
August 1, 2022 6:24 am

Morning chaps and chapesses.

Dot
Dot
August 1, 2022 6:36 am

Morning traitors.

Put it in H!

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 1, 2022 6:43 am

Next

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 1, 2022 6:43 am

ahem!

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