Open Thread – Weekend 20 Aug 2022
1,317 responses to “Open Thread – Weekend 20 Aug 2022”
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Bedridden for about 15 years and easily 250kg. Lived with a deep fryer, bar sized freezer and fridge next to her bed. How the hell someone like that keeps going for so long in that condition is beyond me.
She was just another ‘fat cow’ being farmed by the Big Food and Big Pharma for as long as they could. Given she was most likely housebound, someone was enabling it by going out for her food, meds etc, and I bet she was on a ‘pension’ of some sort transferring $ from the ever shrinking pool of productive citizens. Its a complex scheme, but you make the farmed citizen sick and dependent, then you take $ off the taxpayer and run it through her to the real beneficiaries, the food and drug companies, ‘health care’ workers and of course, theres ‘10% for the govt big guy’ throughout.
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They need someone with the ideas of Abbott and the arrogance of Turdballs?
Increased paid parental leave and green work for the dole? Abbott was only ever PM because R-G-R were monumentally bad. If the Lieborals didn’t throw him out the electorate (with plenty of help from the media) would have done so. It might have taken a couple of electoral cycles given the size of his majority.
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feelthebernsays:
August 21, 2022 at 4:51 am
…https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiko_Roll
A Chiko Roll’s filling is primarily cabbage and barley, as well as carrot, green beans, beef, beef tallow, wheat cereal, celery and onion.[2] The filling is partially pulped and enclosed in a thick egg and flour pastry tube,
Must be fake news. No mention of bacon. The comics assured me that Captain Goodvibes came into existence when a half eaten Chiko Roll floated through some radioactive outflow from a nuclear power station and the radiation acted upon a piece of bacon.
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An inquest has finally come to the conclusion that Zion XXX died as a result of “Vaccine-induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia.” And that his finance was actually the first person in the UK to receive COVID-19 compensation due to a death associated with the vaccine.
This is old news re the Astra Zeneca vaxx. From it’s earliest introduction a one in a million (later shown to be more than that, probably five in a million) chance of death was a known factor. Panic times ruled re the vaxxes. It’s what led to the Qld Health Minister put the axe into the AZ vaxx for under 40’s. Just from memory, a woman in NSW and a man (known to a friend of mine) in Tasmania, both in their 40’s, died from thrombotic thrombocytopenia, and others did too, or were severely injured by it, losing parts of their intestine etc due to clots. That’s all on the record for Australia’s experience with AZ. Deaths from vaxxes come with the territory, the worst ones, like Yellow Fever, have a death rate of one in a million. This is always judged against the lives saved. With Covid, it should have been judged only against any life-saving factor amongst older people. But it wasn’t, so the chance of the vaxx killing you vs the virus doing so evened out somewhat for younger people. And then there are injuries, poorly recorded, but which seem to be worse for Pfizer than for AZ.
Which is why we took AZ and later a booster of Novavax.
Don’t regret having them at our ages of 70 and 80. We’ve had a mild Covid, and followed it all up with successful travel in Britain. No way on earth we can tell if the vaxxes helped, or the vitamins, but they had no harmful effect that we know of. Life’s a risk and a gamble. Live life to the full knowing that.
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If the Lieborals didn’t throw him out the electorate (with plenty of help from the media) would have done so. It might have taken a couple of electoral cycles given the size of his majority.
Maybe, but perhaps an impending clobbering at the ballot box would have reignited his fighting instincts.
Don’t forget Mick Trumble would have achieved oblivion in one electoral cycle if the Nats hadn’t clawed back a seat from Labor.
And ScoMo won the next time largely because the MSM were howling that his accession was a swing back to the right. [Spoiler alert! It wasn’t. Which in turn led to him being punted when the electorate realised what a vacuous waste of space he was.] -
Humans can exist SOLELY on fat and protein and need no carbs at all. You are designed to run on meat, you have the digestive system of a dog not a goat – plants are what your food eats, not you.
I recently got a Home Economics class as an extra. It was on the diet of the Inuit. Reindeer offal provided them with the required vitamins and minerals, and what we consider the “prime” cuts (eg fillet) is fed to the dogs.
Chiko rolls are the invention of Satan. You do not want to be in the same postcode as me if I am hungry enough to eat one.
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For what it’s worth me saying once more, throughout this ‘pandemic’ we had no hesitation in mixing socially with unvaxxed people, welcoming them with hugs and kisses into our home and seeing any measures we took as our own business just as any measures taken or not taken by others as entirely their own business too. If we had been seriously concerned we were always free to stay home as isolates, a choice we did not make.
Stopping the rest of the world from going about its business seemed like a very bad idea; which it was.
In June 2020 I published an article in Quadrant about our travels in early March and the uncertainty about the nature of the virus in those first few weeks. By April when I was writing this article I noted even then that there it now appeared to me that there was serious over-reaction going on re Covid. -
Was that the one where that strategic and tactical genius Conrad von Hotzendorf, tried to do what von Moltke said was impossible and turn the troops around and send them in the opposite direction ?
The very same Conrad – seems he was too busy lusting after one Virginia von Reininghaus to devote himself to the business of running the Austro – Hungarian Army. The fact that the lady was married to someone else, and had six children seems not to have mattered.
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Re the Diamond Princess cruise ship stranded in Japan. Here is an account from March 2020 detailing how things were run. What wasn’t considered back then was the extent to which the air circulation within the closed ship was contributory to rates of infection. More attention was paid to contact hygiene as a factor. But yes, Diogenes, the majority of people didn’t catch Covid. Instructive.
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Chiko rolls are the invention of Satan. You do not want to be in the same postcode as me if I am hungry enough to eat one.
Chiko rolls are fine. Not my preferred add-on at the fish and chippery. As a youth I would occasionally buy a frozen 4 pack with one for Saturday lunch. The key, as Sancho notes, is to cut them into 1 inch disks and pan fry. Which simulates the end bit which was always the best.
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Cassie, I understand your objections to direct election but I can’t see any other way to improve the system. The ideal would be a system that no matter who is in power they can’t wreck things too much, if at all. That requires I guess, laws and a constitution that if followed bad things would be almost impossible to be done by elected officials and senior gov figures. That’s not going to happen. The entire public service, all branches have been stacked over the years with politicised people who cannot be thrown out, they’ve entrenched leftism and snouts at the trough. At least elections for the senior positions would allow some change and let all of us have a say in things. Continuing with the current system hoping you can eventually stack it with your people is not a solution.
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Was that the one where that strategic and tactical genius Conrad von Hotzendorf, tried to do what von Moltke said was impossible and turn the troops around and send them in the opposite direction ?
Yah. That’s what I remember. The AGS wanted the whole army on one front then decided about a week later they all had to be on the other front.
Logistics, logistics, logistics someone said once.
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Was that the one where that strategic and tactical genius Conrad von Hotzendorf, tried to do what von Moltke said was impossible and turn the troops around and send them in the opposite direction ?
The brilliant strategic thinking that led to the Austro Hungarian Army suffering the highest rate of casualties in World War One – 90% of all men mobilized were killed, wounded or captured.
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We buy the South Melbourne market dimmies frozen in the supermarket.
The size of a small fist and … mmmmmm.Brother and his family also get them from the SMM. I have heard countless tales of how good they are, seen them etc etc at his house.
Naturally, given this state of affairs, and as the visiting uncle I am publicly against them and refuse to eat them – solely for the purposes of getting a rise out of the SiL, and the nieces in particular.
The last time I was there, and deliberately having a sandwich while the rest of them were tucking into the SMM dimmies I moved on from the old ‘full of stray cats’ chestnut to telling dark tales of how the dimmie shop owners really work for the Triads, and of bodies going through woodchippers with the remnants scraped up and disposed of in the dimmie mix.
The SiL went pale. The girls loved it, nom nomming their way through a dimmie pile the size of your head.
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Anyone who thinks the direct election of judges, police commissioners and dog catchers will solve anything hasn’t been paying attention. You think you’ll end up with Florida, find out it’s actually California and whatever COAG is now will see in introduced as uniform legislation in the interests of efficiency.
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Chiko rolls are the invention of Satan. You do not want to be in the same postcode as me if I am hungry enough to eat one.
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Narrative change alert.
NY Times runs column on the dangers of TikTok.
This will be the first time some sheeple have heard of these dangers.Keep in mind a few years ago calling TikTok even concerning was Trumpian level racism.
This keeps happening, huh?
Lefties state an uninformed opinion (or, at best informed by a reflexive desire for reason to call their opponents are liars) and are intoxicated on the heady elixir of their own obvious brilliance.
But, finally, events scour away the flimsy sophistry and platitudes they had spun around the truth until there is only truth – hard and unyielding as stone – remaining.
Then, Behold! Suddenly they have brilliantly (again) discovered the truth that is the opposite of what they previously held.
But they do not concede their enemies were right all along. No. They are rubes. Instead they will pride themselves on the subtlety of the circuitous route to truth that those benighted rubes could never have trod.
The people who are right in the first place are stupid. The people who were wrong are brilliant.
Just more sophistry.
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You have to add some specific, yet nondescript detail in the tale to make it believable though.
‘You remember the old bloke at the ice cream caravan on The Strand the last time I was here? He had those double rocky road cones you loved?
‘He’s not there now, is he? You know why? His name was Ernie Chow, and let’s just say ice cream wasn’t all he sold. Ernie owed some money to some people, and Ernie didn’t pay his debts on time, and Ernie didn’t show enough respect……’
At this point, Quenthland pub singer-style, one must adopt a steely-eyed gaze aimed at somewhere in the middle distance. Then, after a suitable pause:
‘How are the dimmies, girls?’
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…what von Moltke said was impossible and turn the troops around and send them in the opposite direction ?
I seem to recall that, after the war, a researcher found a file in the archives of the Kriegsministerium that detailed, down to the last railway movement, just how the German armies could switch fronts to the East if required. I’m not sure if it’s ever been determined that von Moltke knew of these plans.
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The last time I was there, and deliberately having a sandwich while the rest of them were tucking into the SMM dimmies I moved on from the old ‘full of stray cats’ chestnut to telling dark tales of how the dimmie shop owners really work for the Triads, and of bodies going through woodchippers with the remnants scraped up and disposed of in the dimmie mix.
Whatevs.
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From it’s earliest introduction a one in a million (later shown to be more than that, probably five in a million) chance of death was a known factor.
Which means it wouldn’t have got approved in a sane world. If a vax is producing one in a million adverse reactions it’s on the cusp of being rejected, let alone effectively mandated.
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The ideal would be a system that no matter who is in power they can’t wreck things too much, if at all. That requires I guess, laws and a constitution that if followed bad things would be almost impossible to be done by elected officials and senior gov figures.
There is a quote, can’t recall the author, alomg the line:
“The solution is not to seek to put nothing but good people in politics, it is to have a system under which the incentive is for bad people to do the right thing.”
Random public executions might provide the incentive? Or, at least, keep the worst out?
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H B Bearsays:
August 21, 2022 at 11:43 am
Anyone who thinks the direct election of judges, police commissioners and dog catchers will solve anything hasn’t been paying attention. You think you’ll end up with Florida, find out it’s actually California and whatever COAG is now will see in introduced as uniform legislation in the interests of efficiency.The UK introduced elected police commissioners in some jurisdictions a while ago.
The result was not encouraging, with elected “Labour” commissioners doing what might have been expected in the face of “Asian” wape gangs – covering it all up.
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Daniel Andrews’ gigantic rail fiasco is about to get some competition for the stupidest and most expensive boondoggle in the country.
‘Ambitious’: World’s largest hydrogen plant to be built in South Australia (21 Aug)
South Australian Premier Peter Malinauskas has spruiked his government’s $593 million green hydrogen plant to be built in Whyalla but says the plan does not come without risk.
The world’s largest hydrogen plant is set to be built in South Australia.
The government-funded project has attracted interest from 60 organisations around Australia and globally.
Mr Malinauskas said the plant is scheduled to be operational by the end of 2025.
He said it will alleviate pressure on the state’s energy system but “is not going to solve every problem”.
“It is an ambitious policy – it’s not without a degree of risk in a policy sense but also in a technical sense,” he told Sky News Australia.
This is not without risk in the same way as dropping a live hydrogen bomb onto his state is not without risk. It’d be fun to watch the disaster except Canberra will eventually bail them out with our taxes. Betcha.
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All-in Podcast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nId3Jy5bjrYFrom the 25min mark there’s 20mins of them discussing a billionaire objecting to medium density housing being being built in his community.
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A major motion pertaining to the Fourth Amendment will soon be filed concerning the illegal Break-In of my home, Mar-a-Lago, right before the ever important Mid-Term Elections. My rights, together with the rights of all Americans, have been violated at a level rarely seen before in our Country. Remember, they even spied on my campaign. The greatest Witch Hunt in USA history has been going on for six years, with no consequences to the scammers. It should not be allowed to continue!
Donald J Trump.
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If a vax is producing one in a million adverse reactions it’s on the cusp of being rejected, let alone effectively mandated.
And the one in a million is only what’s officially recognised.
Given that Queensland doctors aren’t allowed to put “covid vaxx” on a death certificate, even if they’re sure it directly caused the death, without contacting the government for “advice”, shall we say that it would not be a total shock to find that those figures are understated? -
Archbishop Viganò Was Right About Donald Trump
These comments by Viganò are exactly correct, in my opinion. In our world today, there are many people who still have enough sense to listen to their gut, to try and follow the Natural Law, even if they do not have the words to describe it. You don’t have to be a Catholic to understand that grooming kids is wrong, or that killing infants in the womb is evil. Normal non-serpentine people understand these things without having to have it explained to them.
But it is true that there is a contingency of borderline possessed or sociopathic individuals who will stop at nothing and be stopped by no metaphysical moral principles on their quest to damn the human race.
For whatever reason, Trump—warts, bad haircut, failed marriages and all—manifested as something like an instrument of Providence to lead the flawed yet sane people of the free world against the sulphuric nutjobs who want to turn the world’s most influential nation into a carbon copy of the CCP.
The recent raid of Trump’s home just confirms what Viganò said in that letter from June 2020 about the “children of darkness” stopping at nothing to bring down any semblance of goodness and truth.
In his October 2020 letter to the former president, Viganò added emphatically that it was Trump (or whatever Trump represents) who stood between a deep state takeover and a free and sane America.
He wrote: “It is you, dear President, who are ‘the one who opposes’ the deep state, the final assault of the children of darkness.”
Again, whatever you think about Trump, it is clear that the deep state views him as almost an existential threat, and they will stop at nothing to take him down. This must give us pause.
Much like in Scripture when it is the demons who attest to the divinity of Christ, it is almost like the demonic globalists can’t help but attest by their hatred for Trump that he is the leading figure of an America that Viganò labeled: “The defending wall against which the war declared by the advocates of globalism has been unleashed.”
What the fallout from the raid at Mar-a-Lago will be remains to be seen, but one thing we can be sure about is that Viganò was right about Trump.
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H B Bear says:
August 21, 2022 at 11:43 am
Anyone who thinks the direct election of judges, police commissioners and dog catchers will solve anything hasn’t been paying attention. You think you’ll end up with Florida, find out it’s actually California and whatever COAG is now will see in introduced as uniform legislation in the interests of efficiency.Sortition.
Recall elections.
Confederalism.
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Compare to London’s Circle Line, which is very well used
Well it would be except it’s summer.
Transport strike: Commuters brace for trouble as London Underground and bus staff walkout (19 Aug)
The unions are doing this every couple weeks lately. Weirdly enough roads don’t tend to go on strike.
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It was on the diet of the Inuit. Reindeer offal provided them with the required vitamins and minerals, and what we consider the “prime” cuts (eg fillet) is fed to the dogs.
In the nineties it was fashionable with some people I knew to be into the modern primitive movement, tribal tatts and so on. They were always banging on about the superiority of native cultures and one of the reasons given was how they used every bit of the animal rather than the godless honkey that was prone to disrespecting the beasts by wasting so much of them. Sinews and arses presumably.
Guess they never heard of hot dogs.
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H B Bear says:
August 21, 2022 at 10:46 amAbbott did a good job as Leader of the Opposition. He had a lot to work with. The Liars on illegal immigration was arguably the greatest single, pure policy political decision I have ever seen made.
Closing down the parasitic car manufacturing bullshit was as good as shutting down illegal immigration.
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Closing down the parasitic car manufacturing bullshit was as good as shutting down illegal immigration.
Job half done:
Then entirety of the ADR’s and associated bureaucracy should have been shut down and fired. The vehicle import restriction boon-doogle ended. The import duties scheme on “luxury cars” ended.
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I’m currently in one of the locations that is supposedly going to be ended by Climate Change and sea level rises.
Everyone drives petrol cars and motorcycles, even though it’s perfectly suited to ev’s being small and dead flat.
All power is generated by burning vast quantities of diesel.
Virtually everything they need is brought in by ship or aircraft, only local produce is chickens (small and very tasty).
Ever square inch of indoors is air conditioned.
There is no such thing as recycling.
All the rubbish goes to one island where it is effectively dealt with by a 24/7 tip fire.
There are vast amounts of sea side construction going on.It’s kind of like they don’t believe the hype, but have their hand out for $.
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Watched the merrick garland defence of the FBI raid on Trump again as interpreted by the body language. There’s no doubt he was told to do stuff and someone else did the deciding:
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A foul smell alerted a Moreton Bay region landlord to call the police and ask them to check inside her property, afraid she would find something dead inside.
“Lisa Williams” would later discover her tenants had destroyed and abandoned her house, leaving it covered it in faeces.
Ms Williams, who has chosen not to use her real name, owns a home in Burpengary which she privately rented to a couple with three young children last December.
She became worried when they started to miss rent payments and failed to show up to several inspection appointments.
After an “atrocious” smell started seeping from the house last week she decided to call the police, expecting the worst.
When she walked inside, Ms Williams found the house trashed, floors splattered in faeces, mounds of rubbish, paraphernalia, and “god knows what else”.
“The smell was absolutely atrocious,” Ms Williams said.
“There were holes in doors everywhere, decking boards had been split, paint was spilt all over the timber floors inside, skirting boards were ripped off.
“I also found s***loads of letters saying they owed SPUR debt and Energex bills.
“There were bongs in there, it was full on.”
Ms Williams says she’s at least $10,000 out of pocket after the ordeal, but was mostly shocked at the lack of respect for her property.
“My initial thought was, there’s so many people complaining about people not being able to get rental and yet this is how mine was treated,” she said.
“And there’s been so many headlines of people not being able to afford a rental, I just couldn’t believe it.
“The reason why I went private was because I’m a single mum and I needed as much money as possible to get more things done on the house while covering the mortgage.
“Now the missed rent is $5,500 but I’m at a $10,000 loss at least, maybe even $20,000, there’s just so many things that need doing.”
She’s now “working her butt off” to get the house back in order and will soon rent the home to the people helping her clean it up.
“I’ve really seen the worst and then the best in people,” Ms Williams said.
“This lovely lady Mirrandah Morris has a cleaning business and she’s staying here and helping me clean the place for free, I’ve recommended her to everyone.
“I’ve also made an arrangement with a man called Damien, he’s going to put his daughter and her family in here and paint the place for me and I’m just giving them a reduced rent for a bit, like $400 a week.
“It’s still fairly stinky, it’s feral really but I’m working my butt cheeks off so they can move in a soon as possible.”
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Odd JCs hatred of local automobile manufacturing. Unlike the renewbull parasites, they did turn out a useful product. They were certainly happy to drive our camrys in the ME.
Nothing odd about that Milton as you obviously didn’t understand the context nor the intent. To refresh your memory – Bear suggested Abbott shutting down illegal immigration was a good thing. I agreed and added that closing down that parasitic sector was also a good thing too.. I hope you realize that because I supported that closing down doesn’t mean I support the parasitical behavior of the renew ball industry.
And no, the sector produced absolute shitty cars for the cost. Keep in mind the enormous subsidies and the tariff wall punishment meted against imported cars. All up, a domestic manufactured shit heap would have ended up costing us $150K per vehicle when those costs are factored. Fuck no.
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seem to recall that, after the war, a researcher found a file in the archives of the Kriegsministerium that detailed, down to the last railway movement, just how the German armies could switch fronts to the East if required. I’m not sure if it’s ever been determined that von Moltke knew of these plans.
Barbara Tuchman’s “The Guns Of August” has a very good account of that episode – No, von Moltke didn’t know of the plans.
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Manufacturer I worked for had quite smart management. Whenever the warehouse store was about 75% full the supervisors would start to niggle the union rep. Minor things, like the showers running out of hot water, not giving a few overtime, the tea being weak or dunny paper being the wrong sort. Silly things, but sure enough within the month no overtime to be worked and then a strike happened. 2 weeks was the longest. That’s about the longest most unions hold out until the members arc up. No more overtime for months or the night shift cut out saw quarter of the employees go somewhere else. They used to do the rounds and be back a year or two later. Problem of too much stock on hand solved. This happened 4 times in the 10 years I was there.
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It stands to reason that preserving Trump’s presidential records was never the aim of trying to recover them from him. The way he is being treated makes you think that the Archives and FBI would like nothing better than to get rid of all records and thus expunge that he was ever a president.
Getting all of the records serves two purposes, find out what Trump knew or was up to and then destroy or lose the records. Oops, we have no idea what happened to them.
I hope Trump has his stash of the good stuff somewhere else.
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He’s 78!
Gary Busey is facing four charges, including two counts of criminal sexual contact in the fourth degree, by the police department of Cherry Hill, N.J. The actor was visiting the town during the weekend of Aug. 12 to Aug. 14 to attend the Monster-Mania Convention at the Doubletree Hotel.
During the time of the convention, Cherry Hill police responded to a report of a sex offense at the Doubletree Hotel. After investigating the incident, detectives charged the 78-year-old actor on four offenses: two counts of criminal sexual contact in the fourth degree, one count of attempting criminal sexual contact in the fourth degree and one disorderly conduct count of harassment. The Cherry Hill Police Department has declined to provide further details regarding the incident at this time.
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Assoc Prof Simon Michaux (Uni Qld) The quantity of metal required to make just one generation of renewable tech units to replace fossil fuels, is much larger than first thought. Current mining production of these metals is not even close to meeting demand. Current reported mineral reserves are also not enough in size. Most concerning is copper as one of the flagged shortfalls. Exploration for more at required volumes will be difficult, with this seminar addressing these issues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBVmnKuBocc
Amazing stats: albo and the turtle need to be horse-whipped.
Have a look at it head prefect and report back with your usual concise and witty observations.
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I’m a glass half full guy, Rickw. Closing it down saved us 50K per useless job.
It’s better than nothing! I just resent not being able to buy a $20k USD end of season run out truck in the US, and being legally able to import it.
There are way more high end sports cars in OZ than were ever officially imported. Create an unreasonable burden on people and criminal cartels will start exploiting the situation. Something the Mongs in OZ gov consistently fail to comprehend.
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This is the woman convicted of murdering her husband, who was never seen again after disappearing from their yacht, anchored in the Derwent. 13 years – about 7 years too short for killing someone.
SUE Neill-Fraser has applied for parole.
As of Saturday, the 68-year-old has completed her minimum jail term of 13 years for the 2009 murder of her partner Bob Chappell.
If her bid at an upcoming Parole Board of Tasmania hearing is successful, Neill-Fraser could be a free woman within months.
The turn of events has been welcomed by her supporters, who had believed she wouldn’t leave the Mary Hutchinson Women’s Prison without a full exoneration.
They are also welcoming news the grandmother of four has decided to abandon her plans to go on a hunger strike on her 13th anniversary behind bars.
Andrew Wilkie, the Independent member for Clark, told a rally at Parliament Lawns on Saturday it was a “wonderful turn of events”.
“I think we can all get much comfort that she was persuaded by her family and loved ones to take parole, to not go on a hunger strike, and get out of Risdon and join us.”
He told attendees he shared their dismay at last week’s decision by the High Court not to hear Neill-Fraser’s appeal.
“What we can get some comfort from though is Sue’s very recent decision to take the option of parole. This is a big deal,” he said.
Mr Wilkie also said he would take the matter to Canberra, and “take the fight up to the new government” for the establishment of a Federal Criminal Case Review Commission.
He also said he’d keep pushing at a state level for the conviction to be quashed, and for the establishment of an independent commission of inquiry.
Former Premier and Attorney-General Lara Giddings said a witness in the case – Meaghan Vass – had “tried to tell the truth on more than one occasion” that she was on board the couple’s yacht the night Mr Chappell died.
But she said it would take an inquiry and possible additional forensic testing and expert evidence – as in the Lindy Chamberlain case – “to get the truth”.
“Let’s hope the Parole Board sees fit to let Sue out and she will at least be able to start to rebuild her life, while we help to clear her name,” she said.
“We have to, because if we do not stop and learn from the case, it is only a matter of when the next innocent person is found guilty of crime they did not commit.”
Rosie Crumpton-Crook, president of the Sue Neill-Fraser Support Group, said even if her parole bid was successful, her supporters would “never stop rallying and fighting” to clear her name.
“Whether she’s in prison or out of prison, we will not stop until there is an independent commission of inquiry.”
If Neill-Fraser is not successful in her parole bid, she could potentially serve up to a maximum of 23 years in prison.
It is not clear whether a date for her parole hearing has yet been set.
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Just keep this very important point in mind, Milton.
Abbott did NOT close down the car sector. All he said was that the government was no longer going to subsidise the makers. Virtually next day they all said they were hightailing it outta here when the taxpayer funded rort stopped.
You could always beg to return to produce cars without subsidies.
You could even start up a car manufacturing business on your own.
Go ahead.
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