Open Thread – Tues 13 Sept 2022


The Duke of Marlborough and Prince Eugene Entering the French Entrenchments, Louis Laguerre, early 1700s

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Top Ender
Top Ender
September 14, 2022 10:37 pm

Hmmm. Mrs TE scored right when she booked us into Amish country for some days – they all hate Biden.

However, now she has landed us in Boston. Lots of three storey houses, with us in one, in an AirBnB operated by two mad gay boys. The entire house is decorated in pot plants, mirrors, amateur paintings, and various themes. We are in a nautical room which has an oar in one corner; four mirrors, and 18 plants.

We went for a walk around the neighbourhood last night, and counted four BLM signs. Not exactly a poverty-stricken neighbourhood but lots of rubbish in yards and business lots. We must be in Democrat country.

DaFisk
DaFisk
September 14, 2022 10:40 pm

which is why I prefer Putin to the new American establishment.

I’ve theorised before that much of the motivation for supporting Putin’s invasion of Ukraine among the fringe right, is a belief that Putin is literally the only thing standing between us and compulsory Drag Queen Story Hour for everyone. A huge chunk of the animus towards Ukraine and the cheering of Putin’s initial gains is based on this underlying sentiment. So Putin’s invasion of Ukraine must be a success so as to cause the collapse to the liberal world order, from which Putin and Xi will step up to the plate and and cancel the woke agenda.

It’s certainly a worldview. Not many people share it outside Twitter and the op-ed staff of the New York Post – in fact virtually none of the combatants fighting on both sides in Ukraine would put it in their top 10 – but it does help explain why some people have thrown in their lot with an absolute dud in Putin.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 14, 2022 10:48 pm

Real Deal, if you’re going down a Python road, do a count of how many of their sketches would land them in trouble if they were made today.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 14, 2022 10:49 pm

Greens apologise for claiming candidate would be first Indigenous MP if elected
Anton NilssonNCA NewsWire
Wed, 14 September 2022 4:17PM
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The Greens have apologised after mistakenly claiming one of their NSW upper house candidates would be the first Indigenous MP in the state.

The error was made in a fundraising email sent on Tuesday asking for support for a candidate for the 2023 state election, Wiradjuri and Badu Island woman Lynda-June Coe.

In an apology sent later on Tuesday, state election campaign co-ordinator Andrew Blake said the party “unreservedly” apologised to federal Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney, who spent 13 years as the state MP for Canterbury.

The apology was also directed at Auburn MP Lynda Voltz, whose Aboriginal grandfather grew up on the St Clair Aboriginal Mission in Singleton.

“Recently, we sent you an email from our State election candidate, Lynda-June Coe,” Mr Blake wrote.

“The original email incorrectly stated that, if elected, Lynda-June would be ‘the first First Nations woman in the NSW Parliament’.

“In fact, Linda Burney was elected as the Member for Canterbury to the Lower House in 2003, and L

“Greens NSW unreservedly apologises to Ms Burney and Ms Voltz and acknowledges the work they have done for the people of NSW during their time in the NSW parliament.”

The Greens did not respond to requests for comment.

Ms Coe said in the fundraising email she comes from “a proud line of matriarchs and warriors who have resisted the continuing colonisation and erasure of our people, country and culture.”

“They strengthened my connection to these lands and instilled in me the importance of remembering, respecting and learning from my ancestors,” she continued.

Ms Coe will campaign along sitting upper house MP Cate Faehrmann and two other new candidates, Amanda Cohn and Jim Casey.

…resisting the continuing colonization and erasure of our people by being elected to the colonial Parliament, and being paid by the colonial taxpayer…….

cohenite
September 14, 2022 10:56 pm

KD – The old Cat was a haven for SF readers, of which Sinc was the foremost. Sadly we seem to’ve lost the great tradition.

Well I did mention Jack Vance and the Demon Princes the other day and got castigated by head prefect for my trouble.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 14, 2022 11:01 pm

do a count of how many of their sketches would land them in trouble if they were made today

This part of the Pirhana Brothers would have ended up on the cutting room floor:

Interviewer: Did it worry you that he, for example, stitched people’s legs together?

Gloria: Well it’s better than bottling it up isn’t it. He was a gentleman, Dinsdale, and what’s more he knew how to treat a female impersonator.

Arky
September 14, 2022 11:02 pm

DaFisk says:
September 14, 2022 at 10:40 pm

..
The last 2.5 years has understandably discombobulated and angered people to such an extent that it seems reasonable to them that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
This is not how the world really works, of course.
Also there seems to be a weird contrarian thing going on, that if the Democrats were going on and on about Russian collusion and election interference wrt Trump, and that was all bullshit, then if Trump is a good guy, by a distributive process, logically Putin must be a good guy too.
Either that, or they are married to smoking hot Russian orthodox blondies.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 14, 2022 11:04 pm

Latham says the republic movement will fail, as any campaign against it will be based on the memories of the Queen.

Also:

Would you vote for Australia to become a republic?

Yes 15%
No 79%
Depends on the type of republic 4%
Unsure 2%

Vote here – Daily Mail

rickw
rickw
September 14, 2022 11:05 pm

Almost zero fire control, I counted at least one friendly fire hit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuPiv2MT3N8

Arky
September 14, 2022 11:06 pm

If it’s the latter, I forgive them.
After all, that’s a hell of a lot better reason to do something stupid than, say, getting toxic shit injected in you for the sake of a stupid job.

Arky
September 14, 2022 11:12 pm

If Charles had the intelligence to step aside for William, then the Monarchy would have been saved. We would have a fantastic coronation, the tabloids would have rocked it and life would go on.
As it is now, it’s only a matter of time and hello Republic.
Selfish, idiotic prick.

politichix
politichix
September 14, 2022 11:28 pm

It would have been feckless for Charles to step aside. What reason would he do so?

DaFisk
DaFisk
September 14, 2022 11:30 pm

Also there seems to be a weird contrarian thing going on, that if the Democrats were going on and on about Russian collusion and election interference wrt Trump, and that was all bullshit, then if Trump is a good guy, by a distributive process, logically Putin must be a good guy too.

Obviously the Russian collusion theory was a bunch of hooey which fails to line up with the fact that Trump tried to block Nordstream and pulled out of the Iran deal, whereas Biden the genius greenlighted both.

calli
calli
September 14, 2022 11:31 pm

What Amish community are you in, TE? Lancaster? Shipshewana?

Stayed at a town called Leola Village, not far from…tee hee…Intercourse. Fabulous place.

JC
JC
September 14, 2022 11:33 pm

Watched an interesting movie on F Scott Fitzgerald when he was in the military and about to go to war in WW1. He appears to be a very interesting character. Eisenhower was his garrison commander.

He died at the age of 46

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._Scott_Fitzgerald

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
September 14, 2022 11:39 pm

Speaking of SF-
Chugging through “The Diamond Age”, Neal Stephenson. Contains a lil too much you go girl!, but recommended for cyberpunk invention and Rand rightness

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 14, 2022 11:39 pm

We were in Lancaster, Calli. Stayed at a sort of Amish guesthouse called Bird-in-the-Hand.

We went to Intercourse yesterday. Lots of cackling en route of course. Got a nice photo of two Amish young ladies with their babies sitting under a big town sign. They thought it amusing too. Apparently was named after “the meeting of two roads” or something like that.

calli
calli
September 14, 2022 11:40 pm

Well, I have seen the horrible Diocletian’s palace and the tomb where they turfed out his wretched corpse and laid the martyred Saint Dominius to rest in its place.

So ends the tyrant.

calli
calli
September 14, 2022 11:42 pm

Been there, TE. Do they still whirl around on the scooters?

There was some good outlet shopping up the road. I went there for the quilts, natch.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 14, 2022 11:45 pm

Saw a few scooters. Lots of horses and buggies. It is enormous pumpkin season, or something like that. I drove Mrs TE to a few quilting places of course. Luckily I had my Civil War books to retire to a rocking chair on their verandahs.

calli
calli
September 14, 2022 11:47 pm

And you have to see Paradise, and also eat a gigantic Amish pretzel.

JC
JC
September 14, 2022 11:48 pm

Ender

Hard to believe they’re so close to NYC and yet so far in the way they live. Their closely aligned sect- I can’t recall their name sell quilts. Wifey still has one.

Jorge
Jorge
September 14, 2022 11:48 pm

Charles’ moment of road rage in N Ireland is understandable. It must be awful living like a puppet on the public string.
His face shows it. Grim.
Anne is much more serene. She seems to zone out.

JC
JC
September 14, 2022 11:52 pm

It is enormous pumpkin season, or something like that.

No, it is that. We’re heading there (US) for Thanksgiving and just can’t wait. Try their pumpkin pie with a sprinkling of nutmeg on top served with either cream or ice cream. It can’t be beat.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 14, 2022 11:55 pm

Mennonites, JC.

JC
JC
September 14, 2022 11:58 pm

Oh yea. Ender.

calli
calli
September 14, 2022 11:58 pm

Mennonites?

calli
calli
September 15, 2022 12:02 am

From a different sect altogether. Possibly reads Sun Tzu.

Dot
Dot
September 15, 2022 12:08 am

Diocletian thought he was doing the right thing. Galerius was bloodthirsty, Diocletian was merely earnest. He didn’t understand economics but he had the decency to “voluntarily” retire like an old republican consul.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 15, 2022 12:18 am

Peter Santenello:

In the heartland of America is a special place the beats to a different drum. Holmes County, Ohio is arguably home to the biggest Amish and Mennonite community in the world, and how they live is fascinating. Join me and a local (Josh) as we dive into the culture of this mysterious and special place.

Inside Largest Amish/Mennonite Community – First Impressions ??

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 15, 2022 12:19 am
rickw
rickw
September 15, 2022 12:44 am

As it is now, it’s only a matter of time and hello Republic.
Selfish, idiotic prick.

No way. A Republic stinks more than ever!

It’s “the elites” vision of a Republic and pretty much everyone I speak to has had a gut full of these hypocritical dip-shits.

The “COVID response” did a vast amount of damage to the elite.

rickw
rickw
September 15, 2022 12:46 am

Dinner tonight, I thought this was a nice streetscape:

https://imgur.com/gallery/8q6Y9PF

calli
calli
September 15, 2022 12:48 am

Ha! TE got there first.

It’s only Wiki but it’s a fair outline. Fortunately, I don’t have to judge Diocletian. Let’s just say I don’t think much of him.

rickw
rickw
September 15, 2022 12:49 am

Diocletian was merely earnest. He didn’t understand economics but he had the decency to “voluntarily” retire like an old republican consul.

Diocletian was an engineer, his methodical and consistent approach meant that no complete Bible has ever been found that predates his rule. He very nearly succeeded in wiping out the early Church.

calli
calli
September 15, 2022 1:05 am

Thanks for your kind words, Anchor What. Personally, I would love to see Gab commenting regularly here again. She is always concise and full of information and interest. The same for Philippa.

And I see Helen is about to retire. She has earned it.

rickw
rickw
September 15, 2022 1:18 am

The pillow guy gets FBI’d, third world level intimidation of political opponents:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlhuyX4uU2A

calli
calli
September 15, 2022 2:05 am

Bruce mentioned Orion’s Belt up thread.

Who knew it was so very beautiful?

Interesting contrast between Hubble and Webb images.

Tom
Tom
September 15, 2022 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
September 15, 2022 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
September 15, 2022 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
September 15, 2022 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
September 15, 2022 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
September 15, 2022 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
September 15, 2022 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
September 15, 2022 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
September 15, 2022 4:15 am
Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
September 15, 2022 5:10 am

He very nearly succeeded in wiping out the early Church.

. a bloodthirsty Satan –

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 15, 2022 5:17 am

Thanks, Tom.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
September 15, 2022 5:17 am

Vis a vis Qantas – a very close relative has the unenviable task of working in the complaints department at Qantas – I was told on the weekend that every single thing we hear and see in the media is true only worse.

calli
calli
September 15, 2022 5:20 am

The Beloved was on the phone this morning to Qantas. It was like calling the asylum. He had to have a couple of goes before the person on the other end spoke rudimentary English.

They’re a disgrace.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 15, 2022 5:42 am

Totally agree post COVID Tinta. Colleague been chasing missing points for a fully flex fare 9 months, Indian/Asian call centres for a gold FF. Finally got another non answer the other day & gave up.

My experiences not much better. I avoid the call centre now. I have always been a bigger user of the Q’link DHC8’s than the parent though and they haven’t changed much.

As for the woke bs someone mentioned last night. Always sorta been there, especially with the international arm but more passive. I used to just ignore it. I agree with whoever posted it that since 2019 it has increasingly been in your face. That is irritating me but VA are no better, first welcome to “didyabringyourgrogalong” country I heard was on VA and that would go back well before all this crap was widespread…

Interesting that Jetstar hasn’t picked it up though….

Johnny Rotten
September 15, 2022 5:59 am

Blog/BRITAIN
Posted Sep 14, 2022 by Martin Armstrong
Spread the love

From Martin Armstrong –
From Martin Armstrong

Monarchy is the oldest form of government in the United Kingdom. Right up to the very last few days, Queen Elizabeth embodied the dignity of the British people and fulfilled her role as the impartial guardian of the people. In reality, the British monarchy represents the Head of State. The British “Monarchy in the UK is known as a constitutional monarchy; they yielded the ability to make and pass legislation to the elected Parliament. Once upon a time, Parliament was to represent the people. But ever since the rise of Marxism during the 19th century, Parliament no longer represents the people. It has devolved into not much more than a food fight in a high school cafeteria. Members hurl insults at one another, and the respect for civility has oddly flipped from Parliament back to the Monarchy.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/britain/queen-elizabeth-the-last-of-a-true-constitutional-monarchy/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

However, will the Monarchy survive under Charlie Boy?

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 15, 2022 6:27 am

Almost zero fire control, I counted at least one friendly fire hit:

Pro-tip Rickw: friendly fire – isn’t

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 15, 2022 6:35 am

More non-stop coverage of ‘Er Maj being horizontally ferried around England like the Grand Final cup in the weeks prior to the event itself.

Still better than watching Elbow, or more CGI slapped together and purporting to be footage straight from Ukraine.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 15, 2022 6:54 am

The NT Indy:

The coronial inquest into the death of Kumanjayi Walker has heard text messages between Constable Zach Rolfe and other NT Police officers, in which the officers described the Aboriginal people they were policing in Central Australia as “coons”, “grubby fucks” and “neanderthals”, and that the police enjoyed using force to “towel them up”.

Horrible. Possibly the first time in history that people have shared derogatory text messages about the people they come into contact with by virtue of their employment.

I get the Coronial process where underlying and uncontested background matters before a reportable death may have the capacity to influence recommendations made, but this is a pure virtue signal from counsel assisting.

If those are the worst texts they found, they’re not looking hard enough.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 15, 2022 6:59 am

In the face of the enemy, beg for food and wag tail. Shih Tzu.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 15, 2022 7:00 am

The Andrews Government. Always compassionate (the Hun):

Kylie Hennessy, 50, is awaiting major brain surgery to remove the tumour. Doctors had hoped it would be completed last week. She was forced to make a 1600km round trip to Adelaide last week for an urgent “functional MRI” scan after being told she faced a months-long wait for the scan in Melbourne.

Asked about the matter at a press conference on Wednesday morning, Education Minister Natalie Hutchins said sometimes equipment was not available and that, from personal experience, people sometimes had to “roll with the punches”.

If it saves just one life. In the same piece:

Bernice Snell, mother of Opals basketballer Belinda, died after waiting more than six hours to see a doctor at the Latrobe Regional Hospital. Following medical advice she had attended the emergency department after experiencing pain following a change in her medication.

Asked about the death, (Health Minister) Ms Thomas said: “I need to make this point, people in our health system do not always have good outcomes.”

If it saves just one life.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 15, 2022 7:01 am

How can you not get an MRI scan anywhere in Melbourne?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 15, 2022 7:03 am

Traitors.

Look at what you’ve done to your country. Get a clot and die, the lot of you.

Don’t you dare sneer at me.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 15, 2022 7:04 am

Council Assisting should read some of my texts on what I think of every arm of the Judiciary and what I would do with them. Rolfe’s texts read like a hymn book in comparison.

Dot
Dot
September 15, 2022 7:07 am

Paul Joseph Watson on “deboonking conspiracy theories” in …. Coronation Street!

https://youtu.be/joaed2Yn87o

Anchor What
Anchor What
September 15, 2022 7:07 am

Chris Kenny demonstrated poor knowledge of (or ardent agitprop about) the constitutional monarchy of the UK this week, saying it allocated huge power simply on the basis of heredity. Looks more like huge responsibilities with not much power, to me. It is a system which works better than most republics, and it depends on raising a family who are prepared to take on a job that, for all its trappings, is onerous.
His thrust was, as usual, to try and discredit anyone who objects to The Voice on the basis of discrimination in favour of one race.
Perhaps in future he should refrain from getting entangled in demonstrably political bodies. He knobbled himself by participating in a group which leaves him with no choice but to take the stance he has.
I guess it served as well to bolster his republican views. Chris is mostly good to watch or read, but sometimes he is simply on the wrong tram.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 15, 2022 7:09 am

Still a pity dictator dan didn’t die falling down the stairs. Better still, alive and in pain for the rest of his miserable life. Readers will think I’m uncharitable but to a evil POS like him nothing is too bad.

Dot
Dot
September 15, 2022 7:10 am

In the face of the enemy, beg for food and wag tail. Shih Tzu.

I knew that was coming.

“When he makes bed and goes to work, eat anything laying around of value, especially the new sheets. Expand your chad empire of evil when masters influence wanes, contract to virgin good boy when he comes home with more treats.”

Dot
Dot
September 15, 2022 7:12 am

saying it allocated huge power

I think George VI actually used his full royal power briefly, only twice.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 15, 2022 7:12 am

The United States is, of course, a constitutional republic.

The ardent republicans in this wide brown land would be well served to gaze upon the current state of the US before getting too screamy about adopting a variant of that system.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 15, 2022 7:13 am

Don’t sneer, dear or is that a deer sneer?

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 15, 2022 7:15 am

Vis a vis Qantas – a very close relative has the unenviable task of working in the complaints department at Qantas –

Jeez, what did they do wrong in a previous life?

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 15, 2022 7:20 am

Most people would be condemned if full discovery was allowed on their text messages.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 15, 2022 7:23 am

How much video is available of 3rd nations hurling abuse at police at Yuendumu to show disposition to attack officers.

johanna
johanna
September 15, 2022 7:27 am

I wonder if this site is on TheirABC’s hit list?

But Amazon also offers another way to make money: an affiliate program that lets websites point potential shoppers to Amazon-listed products and earn referral fees if those shoppers buy anything.

Websites listing current bestsellers, for instance, might provide Amazon-affiliate-tagged links to those books in the company’s bookstore.

The ABC found several websites based in the United States and Australia that share hateful material targeting immigrants and trans people, as well as climate change and election disinformation, also promoting links to the Amazon bookstore that appeared to use the company’s affiliate program tag.

The ABC is choosing not to name the sites to avoid amplifying their content.

The books promoted by the websites covered a variety of topics, including a so-called “exposé” of climate science, a discussion of political nihilism and an adventure book about manhood.

Claire Atkin, co-founder of the advertising watchdog Check My Ads Institute, said for a company of Amazon’s size, “it’s not just about the ads”.

“When these websites tap into Amazon … they’re getting legitimacy by being an Amazon affiliate,” she said.

Check My Ads Institute.

The websites examined by the ABC all shared links to Amazon that included an individualised affiliate tag, although it is unclear if the website owners still held active accounts. Likewise, there is no definitive way to know how much these sites may have earned.

Amazon declined to comment on the status of the websites identified by the ABC, or whether it would investigate.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 15, 2022 7:28 am

The ardent republicans in this wide brown land would be well served to gaze upon the current state of the US before getting too screamy about adopting a variant of that system.

Ah yes, they are in the ‘if you can keep it’ phase of their republic

custard
custard
September 15, 2022 7:30 am

There is nothing QAnon about executive orders 13818 and 13848

If you don’t understand them (old school conservative) just say so.

Cassie of Sydney
September 15, 2022 7:31 am

“Latham says the republic movement will fail, as any campaign against it will be based on the memories of the Queen.”

Reading that piece in the Daily Mail about the monarch v the republic, Latham accurately described that buffoon Peter FitzSimons as someone “you wouldn’t even feed”.

shatterzzz
September 15, 2022 7:34 am

Horrible. Possibly the first time in history that people have shared derogatory text messages about the people they come into contact with by virtue of their employment.

How do this enquiry get access to these texts? .. why would anyone give permission to access them? .. and of course, the obvious .. why is telling the truth so bloody awfie! .. did they expect “we luvs these wonderful noble people and their exceptionally good manners” messages to be cluttering the in-boxes .?
.. ‘course not! .. cos if they did they wouldn’t be publicizing them .. LOL!

Dot
Dot
September 15, 2022 7:35 am

Constantine could have been worse for Christianity than Diocletian.

He had to be put in line by the Bishops. He could have changed the eschatology that would have damaged the religion forever.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 15, 2022 7:40 am

Latham accurately described that buffoon Peter FitzSimons as someone “you wouldn’t even feed”

You’d run out of cheese, for a start.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 15, 2022 7:42 am

Almost certainly Johanna.

custard
custard
September 15, 2022 7:46 am

Watched the movie My Son Hunter yesterday, excellent!

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 15, 2022 7:46 am

Apparently racism lies at the heart of any criticism of that Lord of the Rings prequel.
Oopsie.
The show runners subsequent self abasement session with the Irish Times is paywalled.

bespoke
bespoke
September 15, 2022 7:49 am

Arkysays:
September 14, 2022 at 11:06 pm
If it’s the latter, I forgive them.
After all, that’s a hell of a lot better reason to do something stupid than, say, getting toxic shit injected in you for the sake of a stupid job.

I’m still un vaxed. This is dew to my boss knowing not to ask. For many doing the same work it was a requirement. No superannuation no shares or assets to fall back on.
I would have if it was a requirement to for access to my grandkid.

Mater
September 15, 2022 7:50 am

How can you not get an MRI scan anywhere in Melbourne?

Impose a vaccine mandate on the operators, and threaten to bring in overseas staff.

bespoke
bespoke
September 15, 2022 7:51 am

Instapundit would be on the list.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 15, 2022 7:57 am

That Stiglich tooncomment image should be Sleepy Joe falling on the graph columns like he did on the aeroplane stairs. Maybe that’s what Stiglich was aiming for but it didn’t seem that way to me.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 15, 2022 7:58 am

Just saw this:

Ms Coe said in the fundraising email she comes from “a proud line of matriarchs and warriors who have resisted the continuing colonisation and erasure of our people, country and culture.”

She is claiming that Aboriginal society was matriarchal? It was not organised enough to really be any kind of ‘-archal’. In any event, to whatever extent it was it is pretty clear the guys were running the show.

Generally when there is a matriarchy (especially in nature) it means the males leave the group to find mates – the females remain (and define) the group (or pride, or herd, or pod). Most human societies in historical times have been headed by males, and thus daughters are the ones sent out to join other families.

Judism is matrilineal. I am not sure if the tradition is for young males to marry into other families (leaving the females at home where the bloodline is nurtured).

Perhaps Ms Coe is referring to some new Pascoean myth of a major matriarchal resistance to patriarchal whitey.

It would be a shame for historical Aboriginal women who for whatever reason stood up against injustices brought to them and theirs by sadly inevitable malign elements from white society, to have their deeds and motivations denied and embellished versions pressed into the service of a mere political movement.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 15, 2022 7:58 am

MAHA – Make America Hate Again

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Who’s Extreme?

Like me, you probably have been flabbergasted by Joe Biden’s attempt to paint Republicans as violent extremists. Biden’s attacks reflect an alternate reality that seems to come from some other universe.

This 55 sec video (via InstaPundit) does an excellent job of exposing the insanity of Biden’s worldview:

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Jill Biden Thinks It’s Un-American To Oppose Porn in School Libraries

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 15, 2022 8:04 am

Knuckle Dragger says: September 15, 2022 at 7:01 am

How can you not get an MRI scan anywhere in Melbourne?

Not just any old static MRI, it was quoted as “functional MRI” which basically means a small low-res movie of fluids and electrical activity in the brain area. fMRI captures change over time, unlike normal MRI.

Yeah, which simply changes the question to “How can you not get an fMRI scan anywhere in Melbourne?”

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 15, 2022 8:09 am

Pacific Islands remain divided on deep-sea mining as trial begins to extract precious metals from ocean floor

• Mining companies want to dig into the ocean floor to collect metals that can be used in the production of smartphones and computers

• They say there is a need for deep-sea minerals to support the world’s transition to a low-carbon economy

• Some Pacific countries and environmental advocates strongly oppose mining, fearing it will destroy ecosystems

Seabed mining has been in the works for a long time. It’s been slow coming because of the obvious potential to cause huge environmental damage.

Although a (curiously neutral) ABC product, this story is full of warning signals. Not the least being a mining entrepreneur wrapping himself in the flag of urgent decarbonisation in a ‘get the fuck out of the way’ declaration.

This is the start of a bad thing happening.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 15, 2022 8:10 am

Matrilineal family knowledge systems make sense in low information societies, cos it’s easier to remember who came out of which mother, rather than who knocked up which mother ten months ago. Also inheritance by nepotism, for similar reasons.
However a female descent chart does not preclude rule by a male gerontocracy- and yes by rule you can pencil in abuse, assault, forced marriage, abortifacients and infanticide.

shatterzzz
September 15, 2022 8:12 am

Ms Coe said in the fundraising email she comes from “a proud line of matriarchs and warriors who have resisted the continuing colonisation and erasure of our people, country and culture.”

Unbelievable! .. how with media (especially “our” ABC) connivance you get from a motley collection of wandering nomad neanderthals ekeing out an existence following their prey across the land to a ..
“a proud line of matriarchs and warriors who have resisted the continuing colonisation and erasure of our people, country and culture.”
And no one in our hallowed education institutes squealz … “BULLSHIT” in capitals .. FFS!

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 15, 2022 8:14 am

rickw’s link to imgur lured me into clicking on a few more images from that Friedman-forsaken cesspool. Such as this one [content warning, seems a bit Bolsh-y] https://imgur.com/gallery/MebFeMd
The only way those dozen people can get rich without thousands of customers also benefiting from your work is if you work for literal organized crime. The work of the bottom tier and frontline staff does not only benefit the head honcho, and to suggest otherwise is a hateful socialist fantasy.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 15, 2022 8:17 am

Dr Faustus says: September 15, 2022 at 8:09 am

This is the start of a bad thing happening.

We had to destroy the island village to save the island village?

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 15, 2022 8:18 am

m0ntysays:
September 14, 2022 at 10:27 pm
PARIS, Sept 14 (Reuters) – Vladimir Putin’s chief senvoy on Ukraine told the Russian leader as the war began that he had struck a provisional deal with Kyiv that would satisfy Russia’s demand that Ukraine stay out of NATO, but Putin rejected it and pressed ahead with his military campaign, according to three people close to the Russian leadership.

“according to three people close to the Russian leadership”. Oh, lookee, the Wussian disinformation leakers use the same formulation as the FBI disinformation leakers. What a coincidence.

And m0nty-fa falls for both lots, hook, line and sinker.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 15, 2022 8:18 am

China accuses IAEA of issuing a ‘lopsided’ report on AUKUS nuclear submarines plan

China’s Foreign Affairs Ministry has launched a furious attack on the UN nuclear watchdog over AUKUS, accusing the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) of issuing a “lopsided” report about Australia’s plan to build nuclear submarines while ignoring widespread concerns about its ramifications for non-proliferation.

“This report lopsidedly cited the account given by the US, the UK and Australia to explain away what they have done, but made no mention of the international community’s major concerns over the risk of nuclear proliferation that may arise from the AUKUS nuclear submarine cooperation,”

Whether the AUKUS nuclear submarine project is the way for Australia to go is above my pay grade.
But China appears to be suggesting it’s effective.

shatterzzz
September 15, 2022 8:21 am

The only way those dozen people can get rich without thousands of customers also benefiting from your work is if you work for literal organized crime.

Given that the 2 examples in the text both refer to State gummint employment who does she suppose these “2 dozen rich folk” are? …….. weird!

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 15, 2022 8:22 am

Wiradjuri and Badu Island woman Lynda-June Coe.

Coe? Where have I heard that name before? Related tom Paul Coe?

shatterzzz
September 15, 2022 8:27 am

• Some Pacific countries and environmental advocates strongly oppose mining, fearing it will destroy ecosystems

Shirley, all these islands will be underwater by the time the mining getz underway so why do they care? .. Oooops! .. No royalties if there isn’t anyone there to claim ’em .. duuuuuuh!

132andBush
132andBush
September 15, 2022 8:31 am

GreyRanga says:
September 15, 2022 at 7:09 am

Dover, please ban GreyRanga.

Such fawning and overt idolatry of a politician shouldn’t be tolerated here.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 15, 2022 8:32 am

“a proud line of matriarchs and warriors who have resisted the continuing colonisation and erasure of our people, country and culture.”

Yet chooses to be known as Lynda-June Coe.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 15, 2022 8:33 am

We had to destroy the island village to save the island village?

Shirley, all these islands will be underwater by the time the mining getz underway so why do they care?

Seafloor dredging, factory fishing – pretty much the same thing?

A cynic might say that Mr Barron is opening the market for Pacific Island environmental indulgences.

Win-win-win.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 15, 2022 8:39 am

Accountability for war crimes begins at top of the chain Glenn Kolomeitz
12:00AM September 15, 2022
26 Comments

“Fundamentally, laws are pointless if they’re not enforced, and the law which is not enforced soon becomes a dead letter.” This statement was made by Major-General Justice Paul Brereton during his public-speaking roadshow following the release of his report into alleged war crimes by Australian special forces.

While the sentiment of that statement is noble, it did not translate into action in terms of the enforcement of the law as it relates to the responsibility of Australian commanders for the alleged war crimes of subordinates in Afghanistan.

Indeed, Brereton’s findings and recommendations regarding the liability of the chain of command above patrol commander have been described as providing a “virtually blanket exemption” to the most senior levels of the Defence hierarchy from that responsibility.

Unfortunately, the grounds on which such blanket exemptions were made do not hold up to legal and academic scrutiny. The alleviation of the higher chain of command from responsibility in the Brereton inquiry evidences a manifestly flawed interpretation of command responsibility and Australia’s command and control structures in Afghanistan.

Brereton and other generals, including the Special Operations Commander Australia, assign moral command responsibility to commanders over the period subject of the inquiry, but they expressly exclude or are conveniently silent on the legal command responsibility of the senior Defence hierarchy. But command responsibility is a legal concept with its own criminal offence provisions in international and Australian law.

“Morality” is not an element of command responsibility under international law and that term does not appear in Australia’s Criminal Code under command responsibility.

What does appear in both is the legal concept of a breach of duty by commanders in not exercising proper control over forces under their effective command and control.

Whether or not these higher commanders did breach that duty is a matter of evidence. It is for investigators, prosecutors and, potentially, the courts to make that determination.

But the Brereton report’s blanket exemption from responsibility did not subsequently translate to a referral for investigation by another general – the Chief of the Defence Force.

In the absence of a criminal investigation, we will never know whether the senior commanders in whom the Australian public places their trust are criminally responsible.

It is far from good enough to say they are morally responsible while ignoring the potential criminality of their conduct. As stated by major-general, now senator, Jim Molan, “a commanding general has an awesome responsibility … we stand for the rule of law or we stand for nothing, and generals must be accountable”. So where is the accountability and the stance in favour of the rule of law in the blanket exemption from responsibility provided to our higher commanders?

The criminal concept of command responsibility for war crimes exists for some very good reasons. Affording a mode of liability to those in command is a means of enforcing compliance with international humanitarian law – the law of war. The dereliction of the duty of commanders to prevent and punish war crimes serves to diminish the deterrent value of these laws.

The broad intent of the International Criminal Court is to combat impunity for war crimes and to ensure those most responsible for such crimes are brought to justice.

So, if Australia will not fill the “impunity gap” and concurrently inject the deterrent effect into its response to the allegations arising from operations in Afghanistan, why do we have these laws?

Command responsibility, like the analogous rotting fish, starts from the head, not from the lowest possible level of command where the Brereton report appears to cast its net of culpability. To not apply that “top-down” approach is to breach the intent of the International Criminal Court to combat impunity and deter the commission of war crimes by subordinates.

Certain questions beg asking. Will the law of command responsibility for war crimes, if not enforced properly or at all by Australia, become a dead letter? And will such dead letter of Australian command responsibility law be likely to ground the admissibility of cases against Australia’s higher commanders before the International Criminal Court? In the opinion of the author, the answer is resoundingly in the affirmative.

duncanm
duncanm
September 15, 2022 8:41 am

Claire Atkin, co-founder of the advertising watchdog Check My Ads Institute, said for a company of Amazon’s size, “it’s not just about the ads”.

.. need I ask why the ABC is promoting an organisation that is clearly far-left / activist / anti-democratic?
Here’s a quick list of their activities: https://checkmyads.org/branded/

Its all “election fraud disinformation”, “russia russia russia”, “Steve Bannon is the devil incarnate”

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 15, 2022 8:44 am

132, have to agree. I spend way too much time here. Bye the way I have a signed photo and T shirt too.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 15, 2022 8:47 am

Unbelievable! .. how with media (especially “our” ABC) connivance you get from a motley collection of wandering nomad neanderthals ekeing out an existence following their prey across the land to a .

For shame, don’t you know Aborigines lived in high rise apartment towers, and invented broad acre agriculture?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 15, 2022 8:50 am

Do your worst Dover, but please don’t call me munty. I implore you. If nothing else, I was young and naive.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 15, 2022 8:52 am

On the one hand, nicking him for going armed with eggs in public is a joke.
On the other, the pre-emptive lifting denied him the opportunity to receive
an attitude adjustment from The Mobb.

bespoke
bespoke
September 15, 2022 8:53 am

Ban all G&T drinkers.

132andBush
132andBush
September 15, 2022 8:57 am

lol

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2022 8:57 am

Knuckle Draggersays:

September 14, 2022 at 10:21 pm

Further detail on Mr. Dorante-Day, from the abovementioned piece:
….
This is really world-class grifting.

I would beg to differ.
Mr. Dorante-Day has pitched it too high and therefore has stretched his credibility to breaking point.
He clearly isn’t well versed in the art of grift from decades of practice.
Start slowly.
A slip on a lettuce leaf in Coles.
Then shake-down a blog owner with claims of online bullying.
Followed by the $30k roof painting for pensioners scam.
Then – and only then – are you ready for the big one. The claim of Royal lineage.

Dot
Dot
September 15, 2022 9:03 am

Ban all G&T drinkers.

I reported that ad, did I do good?

duncanm
duncanm
September 15, 2022 9:04 am

lotocotisays:
September 15, 2022 at 8:52 am
On the other, the pre-emptive lifting denied him the opportunity to receive
an attitude adjustment from The Mobb.

Exactly..

I support full and unfettered free speech – but realise it may come with consequences.

Franx
Franx
September 15, 2022 9:05 am

Doubt that eschatology is open to change or that it was open to change either by Constantine or Diocletian.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2022 9:07 am

Franxsays:

September 15, 2022 at 9:05 am

Doubt that eschatology is open to change or that it was open to change either by Constantine or Diocletian.

Sure.

Anchor What
Anchor What
September 15, 2022 9:08 am

Laura Jayes had a touch of the Kamalas in describing the two queues filing past the Queen’s coffin.

johanna
johanna
September 15, 2022 9:08 am

need I ask why the ABC is promoting an organisation that is clearly far-left / activist / anti-democratic?

They are not just promoting this organisation, duncanm. They are actively participating in its campaign. It is a clear breach of the Charter, but any regard for that document disappeared long ago.

struth
struth
September 15, 2022 9:11 am

Calli defends notafan and her ilk as just holding different view on things.
Hitler had a different view of things too.
Unfortunately there is right and wrong. Good and evil.
Noting the sneerers avoiding maters thread like the plague. ….

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2022 9:12 am

Sneeeeer!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2022 9:13 am

And scoff!!

bespoke
bespoke
September 15, 2022 9:13 am

Hi Charlie…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 15, 2022 9:13 am

Unbelievable! .. how with media (especially “our” ABC) connivance you get from a motley collection of wandering nomad neanderthals ekeing out an existence following their prey across the land to a .

Just as you may wonder how long Australia will go on tolerating all this malarkey, Albanese is back in the media waffling on about “sharing this continent with the worlds oldest continuing culture.” The world’s oldest continuing culture is that of the San Bushmen of Southern Africa – some 120,000 years -twice the length of time of the Australian Aborigine.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2022 9:13 am

Bing-Bong!
Everyone is Hitler!
Bing-Bong!

Indolent
Indolent
September 15, 2022 9:14 am

The last 2.5 years has understandably discombobulated and angered people to such an extent that it seems reasonable to them that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

It is also the first reverse and, hopefully, dose of reality for the globalist overlords who have managed to infiltrate and corrupt every single institution, right down to kindergarten, who view us as chattel to be manipulated or disposed of and plan a future I have no wish to be part of. Unfortunately not conspiracy theory but right out in plain sight and rubbing our noses in it.

CrazyOldRanga
CrazyOldRanga
September 15, 2022 9:14 am

Interesting rego in Melbourne this morning. V PANZR.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2022 9:16 am

CrazyOldRangasays:

September 15, 2022 at 9:14 am

Interesting rego in Melbourne this morning. V PANZR.

That’s my brother, Vladimir.

Franx
Franx
September 15, 2022 9:17 am

Sancho check with Dot about eschatology.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 15, 2022 9:18 am

Horrible. Possibly the first time in history that people have shared derogatory text messages about the people they come into contact with by virtue of their employment.

I would be very surprised if lawyers and judges did not have in-jokes or cathartic images for people they must deal with. And given the overweening self-regard that permeates the law profession, you can bet they have slurs for tradies, single-mums, honest people on lower incomes etc – everyone that makes them work or who is an affront to their soft manicured hands.

And yes, I have just presented a distasteful parody of lawyers there too, even though it would not be the rule among them.

But they like rules.

Indolent
Indolent
September 15, 2022 9:19 am
struth
struth
September 15, 2022 9:19 am

There seems to be less commenting here these days

Where’s choo choo?
How many boosters are you getting?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2022 9:20 am

Franxsays:

September 15, 2022 at 9:17 am

Sancho check with Dot about eschatology.

Sure.

Indolent
Indolent
September 15, 2022 9:21 am
Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
September 15, 2022 9:22 am

In the UK House of Commons, a conservative member, Sir Christopher Chope, MP, proposes a Bill to require the Secretary of State to establish an independent review of disablement caused by COVID-19 vaccinations, and the adequacy of the compensation offered to persons so disabled, and for connected purposes as described recently on the website of the UK MP.

https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/moves-in-uk-parliament-for-covid-19-vaccine-injury-law-inaugural-session-d7237ee5

What’s quite interesting about COVID-19 and a nascent, growing vaccine injury movement in the United States and select countries such as the U.K. and some countries in Europe is the prominent role conservatives are playing in the effort. Typically, it’s been the left to liberals that have championed the cause for consumer rights and consumer protection, particularly against industry such as Big Pharma. Just think of Ralph Nader as the archetypical traditional example of an advocate that would stand up for individuals. Ideologically, the liberal to extreme left have been far more opposed to large corporate power running amok in U.S history than Republicans.

https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/helping-covid-19-vaccine-injured-patientsliberals-conservatives-can-join-in-on-the-effort-195c7310

Indolent
Indolent
September 15, 2022 9:24 am
Indolent
Indolent
September 15, 2022 9:26 am
Diogenes
Diogenes
September 15, 2022 9:26 am

Whether or not these higher commanders did breach that duty is a matter of evidence. It is for investigators, prosecutors and, potentially, the courts to make that determination.

Wasn’t there a Japanese general executed over that principle, despite neither ordering the war crimes committed by troops under his command, nor being able to effectively exercise his command(ie no communications with those troops)?

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 15, 2022 9:31 am

Waiter! There’s a Nazi in my word salad.

Franx
Franx
September 15, 2022 9:31 am

Perhaps try to engage with the topic, any topic, Sancho. Being snide, sneering, smarmy and inclined to picking at at scabs is not healthy, even if it not deadly.

m0nty
m0nty
September 15, 2022 9:35 am

Accountability for war crimes begins at top of the chain

Ah, the Ben Roberts-Smith case must be going poorly.

bespoke
bespoke
September 15, 2022 9:37 am

I would be very surprised if lawyers and judges did not have in-jokes or cathartic images for people they must deal 

Dark humur is nessersary for those that deal with shit things on a daily basis to prevent themselves being consumed by it.

Roger
Roger
September 15, 2022 9:38 am

How can you not get an MRI scan anywhere in Melbourne?

I don’t know the details, but the past history of the Andrews government sugests one should never underestimate their ability to fuck things up. Pardon the French this early in the day.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 15, 2022 9:39 am

Campaigning against rising gang shootings is the sort of despicable populist tactic
worth noting by the BBC.

Jorge
Jorge
September 15, 2022 9:41 am

The Australian carrying a reminder to NSW cops that protest is a right in democracies.

It’s needed now because anti monarchists are gearing up for action around the time of the public holiday.

Until now there was no need to remind us of our rights. No threat could be seen.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 15, 2022 9:41 am

Diogenessays:
September 15, 2022 at 9:26 am
Whether or not these higher commanders did breach that duty is a matter of evidence. It is for investigators, prosecutors and, potentially, the courts to make that determination.

Wasn’t there a Japanese general executed over that principle, despite neither ordering the war crimes committed by troops under his command, nor being able to effectively exercise his command(ie no communications with those troops)?

Yamashita, for atrocities committed by Japanese forces under his command in the Philippines in 1944-45. Tried and executed by the Americans.

Had that trial not occurred, however, the British would have tried and executed him for the “Sook Ching”, the massacres of Chinese after the fall of Singapore in February 1942. Figures for the dead there range up to 70,000, and there is no doubt that tens of thousands were killed.

Real Deal
Real Deal
September 15, 2022 9:49 am

Real Deal, if you’re going down a Python road, do a count of how many of their sketches would land them in trouble if they were made today.

T.E. the Stan/Loretta character in Life of Brian for a start. I think John Cleese has talked about that somewhere.

There would have to be many that would get cancelled today. One I remember was the “Pepperpots” who were based on Mary Whitehouse in the UK. They had screechy voices and complained about everything.

One sketch showed them storming a performance of Shakespeare’s Othello as he is with Desdemona. They whack him over the head with handbags shrieking “Don’t worry dear, we won’t let the d*rkie touch you”. I doubt the Beeb would show that now. I have the whole series on DVD. Haven’t watched it for years.

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 15, 2022 9:50 am

The Australian carrying a reminder to NSW cops that protest is a right in democracies.

It’s funny in the UK that is only now the usual bleeding hearts have discovered that the public nuisance laws are anti free speech. The very same laws used to stop “transphobic” comments are now being used against the “not my king” protesters

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 15, 2022 9:50 am

‘He Was Standing Up For America’: Think Tank Leader Says The Right Still Needs Trump

. Former President Donald Trump’s disposition is at least as important as his actual policies, according to Tom Klingenstein, Claremont Institute chairman.

. Trump’s hostility to the media and to political correctness, along with his unabashed pro-America attitude, have been key to the transformation of the conservative movement and are exactly what the present moment requires, he told the Daily Caller News Foundation.

. “Trump had a particular constellation of assets that fit the moment when we’re in a war. And that’s what prudence is … it’s not about assessing him in a vacuum, it’s about assessing him in the context of the current circumstances,” Klingenstein said.

“What you hear frequently is ‘Gee, I like Trump’s policies but I don’t like the rest of him,’ and my thought is that it’s the rest of him that really inspired the movement,” Klingenstein told the DCNF. “Yes, I agree with many or most of his policies, but what I think was so unusual was his courage. Can you imagine what it would take to stand up to the kind of abuse he was subject to?”

Klingenstein credited Trump with exposing — not creating — the divide in our country, as well as what he characterized as corruption in the media and in intelligence agencies. This perspective has been echoed by others affiliated with the National Conservatism movement: that Trump helped expose challenges facing America and that clear-eyed conservatives need to shift their focus to meet the present moment.

“He showed us that we’re in a war. And he smoked out rats: the media, we now know, is corrupt. We knew it was biased, but now we know it’s absolutely corrupt. We now know that the intelligence agencies — which we thought were biased — we now know that they’re corrupt,” he said.

“This is a period of self-loathing: we teach our children to hate America. So having someone like Trump who’s unreservedly, unabashedly pro-American, is very very important,” he said. “Political correctness is a prohibition on defending America. If you say things like ‘American exceptionalism,’ thats taboo, so when he was standing up against political correctness he was standing up for America.”

“Trump has an absence of white guilt. He never apologizes,” he said. “White guilt is killing us because it’s driving affirmative action and outcome equality, where all groups have to be equal based on their proportion of the population. He’s the antidote to that. Most Republicans have white guilt … that makes it difficult even for those on the right to really defend America, and we on the right are still very, very fearful of being called a racist. Trump is not. “

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2022 9:51 am

Franxsays:

September 15, 2022 at 9:31 am

Perhaps try to engage with the topic, any topic, Sancho. Being snide, sneering, smarmy and inclined to picking at at scabs is not healthy, even if it not deadly.

Sure.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 15, 2022 9:51 am

He had to have a couple of goes before the person on the other end spoke rudimentary English.

A couple of companies have recently advertised “Our call centres are in Australia.”
Not Quaintarse of course.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 15, 2022 9:53 am

That’s my brother, Vladimir.

Does he speak thspanish too?

Zipster
Zipster
September 15, 2022 9:54 am

“according to three people close to the Russian leadership”

and I hear from reliable sources very close to those involved that there is a cheap bridge for sale over a major harbour

Zipster
Zipster
September 15, 2022 9:56 am

A couple of companies have recently advertised “Our call centres are in Australia.”

there’s certainly enough sub continentals here now for that

bespoke
bespoke
September 15, 2022 9:56 am

Franx thinks he’s being a clever Sun Tzu but the tactic is hilariously obvious.

P
P
September 15, 2022 9:58 am

Memorial of Our Lady of Sorrows – 15/09/22

Pergolesi – Stabat Mater

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 15, 2022 10:06 am

Fortunately for James Hird, community attitudes to injections of armfuls of unknown substances have softened considerably.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2022 10:08 am

bespokesays:

September 15, 2022 at 9:56 am

Franx thinks he’s being a clever Sun Tzu but the tactic is hilariously obvious.

SURE!!!

Lysander
Lysander
September 15, 2022 10:09 am

Real Deal, if you’re going down a Python road, do a count of how many of their sketches would land them in trouble if they were made today.

Lots of comedians I think?

I remember Billy Connolly in Australia talking about being at bondi when the shark alarm went off: “I thought it was the fucking Japanese! I don’t trust them at all. They’d have us all singing ‘Kawasaki’ by the end of the day.” 😛

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 15, 2022 10:11 am

Diogenes.

That wouldbe Yamashita you are thinking of.
Carried the can for massacres carried out by navy marines in Phillipines.
Real reason for hanging was probably because he humiliated the Allies with the Singapore campaign.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 15, 2022 10:13 am

I think Bernie and Elton put it best.
‘Don’t let the Sun Tzu go down on me’

Franx
Franx
September 15, 2022 10:13 am

Surely Cervantes ought not be so dishonoured as to be associated with having created a snide character to act as a hero’s foil. For, although not ‘the man’, the foil was himself a hero and a man of integrity. That was the creation, surely.

rickw
rickw
September 15, 2022 10:16 am

Interesting rego in Melbourne this morning. V PANZR.

There should be a whole set of them: PANZR I, II, III, IV, V !!

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 10:20 am

struth says:
September 15, 2022 at 9:19 am
There seems to be less commenting here these days

Where’s choo choo?
How many boosters are you getting?

Dover, would you classify this as low rent trolling?

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 15, 2022 10:21 am

Paul Joseph Watson on “deboonking conspiracy theories” in …. Coronation Street!

Insightful. Watson does a good job.
Of course government control of propaganda in soaps would never happen in Australia.
We simply throw over a billion dolls p.a. to a broadcaster to do the leftists work.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 15, 2022 10:22 am

Germany Weighs Nationalizing Uniper as Energy Crisis Worsens

Nationalising the gas company will magically create more gas? These people are not serious people.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 15, 2022 10:24 am

The ardent republicans in this wide brown land would be well served to gaze upon the current state of the US

Heh. Spot on.
My brood af ardent lefty grandchildren stop short when I say “Yeah, bring on a republic and we can elect a Trump to head of state”.

mc
mc
September 15, 2022 10:27 am

These people are not serious people.

Oh they are serious. Serious about controlling all the levers.

Roger
Roger
September 15, 2022 10:28 am

Of course government control of propaganda in soaps would never happen in Australia.
We simply throw over a billion dolls p.a. to a broadcaster to do the leftists work.

Happily the ABC’s viewership has only ever been a fraction of Home & Away.

Roger
Roger
September 15, 2022 10:32 am

Germany Weighs Nationalizing Uniper as Energy Crisis Worsens

I was speculating the other day that the European energy crisis would see the spectre of the nationalisation of firms arise from the dim past.

Meanwhile, Thomas Friedman has apparently come out strongly for drilling & fracking in the NYT.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 15, 2022 10:34 am

custard says:
September 15, 2022 at 7:30 am
There is nothing QAnon about executive orders 13818 and 13848

If you don’t understand them (old school conservative) just say so.

OK, I’ll ask the question.
What do EOs 13818 and 13848 mean, what is their goal, and are they still valid/operational?
Following on your mention of them, I searched for them on line and have a basic understanding.
But – hasn’t the nominated 45 days been passed and therefor 13848 is now redundant?
A plain English summary for me would be helpful.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 15, 2022 10:35 am

Happily the ABC’s viewership has only ever been a fraction of Home & Away.

Well, there’s more factual accuracy and intellectual rigour in Home and Away.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 15, 2022 10:35 am

Ladies and gents, aboriginal royalty! Charles and Camilla love-child claimant doubles down:

As they mourn, Mr Dorante-Day, whose wife Elvianna and children are Indigenous Australians, said his family would be partaking in sacred Aboriginal cultural practices.

Daily Mail – scroll down

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2022 10:40 am

Franxsays:

September 15, 2022 at 10:13 am

Surely Cervantes ought not be so dishonoured as to be associated with having created a snide character to act as a hero’s foil. For, although not ‘the man’, the foil was himself a hero and a man of integrity. That was the creation, surely.

Sure.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 15, 2022 10:44 am

As they mourn, Mr Dorante-Day, whose wife Elvianna and children are Indigenous Australians

If they are his biological children then why are his children indigenous? We would previously have said with intuitive arithmetic, that they are half-indigenous (and half-white). The two halves adding up to one.

Now they are just ‘indigenous’.

But then they must also be ‘white’.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 15, 2022 10:53 am

Wiradjuri and Badu Island woman

Why multiple locations and why no “Proud”?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 15, 2022 11:00 am

Why multiple locations

Hedging bets.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 15, 2022 11:03 am

Mr Panzer at 8.57:

Mr. Dorante-Day has pitched it too high and therefore has stretched his credibility to breaking point.

Oh no, not at all. He’s gone the other way – moon-shotting his way to untold fame and riches by using his ‘indigenous’ children to make a buck.

The Project must surely run a two-hour special on him.

m0nty
m0nty
September 15, 2022 11:04 am

https://patelpatriot.substack.com/p/devolution-addendum-series-part-5?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

Here you go OSC.

Ah yes, the Magnitsky Act. You can tell this is straight GRU propaganda, because the Magnitsky Act is the number one priority for Putin and his billionaire mates. He would stop the war in Ukraine tomorrow if it meant the West agreed to drop the Magnitsky Act.

areff
areff
September 15, 2022 11:06 am

My brood of ardent lefty grandchildren stop short when I say “Yeah, bring on a republic and we can elect a Trump to head of state”. – OSC

And there’s the rub. What they want is President Grace Tame or President Adam Goodes, with no real power but carte blanche to hector and scold.

Were a US-style presidency on the table, you bet!

Apart from a line-item veto, we could get, just possibly, an outsider, a native Trump, to shake things up.

Tom
Tom
September 15, 2022 11:11 am

Fortunately for James Hird, community attitudes to injections of armfuls of unknown substances have softened considerably.

Because of its utter incompetence for the past decade, the Essendon Football Club has poisoned the water in the coaching department for anyone who isn’t club champion James Hird.

If the Dons appoint Hird to the vacant senior coach position, the club acquires one of Aussie Rules’ best football brains to run its campaign for another premiership – Essendon being tied with Carlton as the AFL’s winningest club with 16 flags.

Hird’s appointment as senior coach would also unleash a hurricane of rage from media hacks like Caroline Wilson, the daughter of a former Richmond club president, who blamed Hird, then Essendon senior coach, for the 2012 “drugs” scandal, when Essendon hired an alleged sports “scientist”, Stephen Dank, to push questionable “supplements” among Essendon players.

Fortunately, Essendon’s new president, Dave Barham, a TV sports right entrepreneur, isn’t a leftard zombie like Wilson and knows than Essendon members couldn’t care less about the optics – they just want another flag, in fact, demand one.

Bring on the media shit fight –guaranteed to motivate Dons players like nothing else if Hird gets the job. Us and them on steroids – literally.

m0nty
m0nty
September 15, 2022 11:12 am

Geez Tom, is there any topic on which you don’t take the side of cheats and blaggards?

Tom
Tom
September 15, 2022 11:18 am

Monty, anything that upsets lefty fuckwits like you and Caroline Wilson is a surefire winner with AFL footy fans, who are sick of their game being hijacked by political activists.

m0nty
m0nty
September 15, 2022 11:23 am

It certainly does seem like there is a disconnect between Essendon fans and the rest of humanity, who understand that Hird returning would be exactly the wrong thing to do.

m0nty
m0nty
September 15, 2022 11:25 am

I mean, we are only trying to save you from yourselves. Destroying your club all over again to own the libs may sound like fun, but it’s not going to end well for anyone.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 15, 2022 11:27 am

Thank you Custard.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 15, 2022 11:28 am

cheats and blaggards?

Blackguards, you simpleton.

Tom
Tom
September 15, 2022 11:30 am

Murdoch Derangement Syndrome. Abbott Derangement Syndrome. Trump Derangement Syndrome. And now Hird Derangement Syndrome.

Bring it on!

rickw
rickw
September 15, 2022 11:32 am

Blackguards, you simpleton.

ROFL!

m0nty
m0nty
September 15, 2022 11:33 am

Shush KD, it’s in the dictionary.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 15, 2022 11:40 am

From your very own link, mUnter:

‘Blaggard’ doesn’t appear in my Oxford Dictionary of English

I learnt classical English, not the twisted dialect you seem to have picked up.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 15, 2022 11:42 am

If you use Urban Dictionary for anything other than comedy value, you place yourself squarely in the ‘dunderhead’ category.

132andBush
132andBush
September 15, 2022 11:43 am

Just checking out the latest mid term climate outlooks.

Sorry if already noted but it’s been estimated the undersea volcano which erupted near Tonga not long ago punched an amount of water vapour into the stratosphere equivalent to 10% of whats already in that layer of the atmosphere.
I’m guessing that will affect things for a year or two in the southern hemisphere.

Lysander
Lysander
September 15, 2022 11:47 am

I’m guessing that will affect things for a year or two in the southern hemisphere.

Yes 123Bush. There was a news item on recently showing the reason we are getting bright orange sunsets is due to that volcano – and is meant to last several years…

So, I demand VOLCANO ACTION NOW.

Lysander
Lysander
September 15, 2022 11:51 am

And I can confirm from some academic subscriptions I have to etymological dictionaries… blaggard does not exist.

Just like Trump did not “appoint judge Reinhart.”

Munty -> do you have permanent scars across your face from the constant rakes?

m0nty
m0nty
September 15, 2022 11:52 am

Oxford Dictionaries doesn’t actually define the word either, but provides a quotation in which the word appears.

Language is not defined in a book anyway. One of the fundamental lessons of post-modernism, that.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 15, 2022 11:53 am

Ah yes, the Magnitsky Act. You can tell this is straight GRU propaganda, because the Magnitsky Act is the number one priority for Putin and his billionaire mates. He would stop the war in Ukraine tomorrow if it meant the West agreed to drop the Magnitsky Act.

Our source in the Kremlin, m0nty-fa, knows, because he takes the minutes of all meetings involving the Poot. Nothing else is ever discussed except the Magnitsky Act.

PS, why GRU (military intelligence)? Why not the FSB, successor to the KGB?

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  1. Is that the line being pushed by the DNC/MSM talking points? Very inventive, but hardly credible.

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