Open Thread – Weekend 8 Oct 2022


The Battle of Lepanto, Paolo Veronese, 1572

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Vicki
Vicki
October 8, 2022 3:55 pm

Don’t know vaccination status, but as sister said, there was a real atmosphere of fear as people left the chapel. Really aggressive cancers. This is getting a bit scary.

If you have access to OS post vax developments, you will know that rapidly developing cancers et al are being seen in larger than normal rates in the western vexed countries. This is in addition to the unusual myocarditis and pericarditis etc also being noted. While you can debate the source of the greater than usual general mortality rates (could be delayed medical treatment due to lock downs), it is harder to accept the occurrence of some of the life threatening diseases in the 18-40 age groups.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 8, 2022 3:58 pm

All right. I’m finally interested in the Russia/Ukraine stuff (the Hun):

Ukrainians are reportedly planing an apocalyptic orgy in the event Vladimir Putin launches a nuclear strike on the country.

In a sign of ‘Ukrainian optimism’, the New York Post reports, locals have organised a mass sex party in the event the Russian leader’s ominous threats become a reality.

More than 15,000 people have signed up for “Orgy on Shchekavystsa: Official,” a mass romp set up on a Telegram group if Russia unleashes its nuclear arsenal, which is the world’s largest.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 8, 2022 3:58 pm

Big Serge Thoughts

Politics By Other Means – Putin and Clausewitz

With the sole possible exception of the great Sun Tzu and his “Art of War”, no military theorist has had such an enduring philosophical impact as the Prussian General Carl Philipp Gottfried von Clausewitz. A participant in the Napoleonic Wars, Clausewitz in his later years dedicated himself to the work that would become his iconic achievement – a dense tome titled simply “Vom Kriege” – On War. The book is a meditation on both military strategy and the socio-political phenomenon of war, which is heavily laced with philosophical rumination.

Among all his eminently quotable passages, however, one is perhaps the most famous: his claim that “War is a mere continuation of politics by other means.”

It is on this claim that I wish to fixate for the moment, but first, it may be worthwhile to read the entirety of Clausewitz’s passage on the subject:

“War is the mere continuation of politics by other means. We see, therefore, that War is not merely a political act, but also a real political instrument, a continuation of political commerce, a carrying out of the same by other means. All beyond this which is strictly peculiar to War relates merely to the peculiar nature of the means which it uses. That the tendencies and views of policy shall not be incompatible with these means, the Art of War in general and the Commander in each particular case may demand, and this claim is truly not a trifling one. But however powerfully this may react on political views in particular cases, still it must always be regarded as only a modification of them; for the political view is the object, War is the means, and the means must always include the object in our conception.”

On War, Volume 1, Chapter 1, Section 24

Once we cut through Clausewitz’s dense and verbose style, the claim here is relatively simple: war-making always exists in reference to some greater political goal, and it exists on the political spectrum. Politics lies at every point along the axis: war is begun in response to some political need, it is maintained and continued as an act of political will, and it ultimately hopes to achieve political aims. War cannot be separated from politics – indeed, it is the political aspect that makes it war. We may even go further and state that war in the absence of the political superstructure ceases to be war, and instead becomes raw, animalistic violence. It is the political dimension that makes war recognizably distinct from other forms of violence.

Let us contemplate Russia’s war-making in Ukraine in these terms.

– Putin the Bureaucrat
– Expeditionary War
– Creating Consensus
– A Brief History of Military Force Generation
– Time and Space

Tom
Tom
October 8, 2022 4:01 pm

Anamoe (J: J. McDonald; T: J. Cummings) wins the W.S. Cox prelude, the $1 million Might and Power Stakes (2000m WFA) at Caulfield.

Meanwhile, the chief steward at Randwick has asked jockeys to voluntarily steer their horses away from the rail as jockeys demand that the rest of the meeting be called off because the track is unsafe.

The chief steward is living in the same alternate universe as the Australian Greens.

Tom
Tom
October 8, 2022 4:05 pm

UPDATE: The rest of the Randwick meeting has just been abandoned.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 8, 2022 4:06 pm

Meanwhile, the Health Dept is still chasing your DNA thru a stool sample.

Groogs all too readily provides a stool sample.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 8, 2022 4:07 pm

UPDATE: The rest of the Randwick meeting has just been abandoned.

Why do people live in Sydney?

bespoke
bespoke
October 8, 2022 4:11 pm
Speedbox
October 8, 2022 4:11 pm

Indeed she is. In fact she is returning to Russia on 17th October to catch up with remaining family and many friends in Kislovodsk. She, and our youngest Ms Speedbox, will be away for about a month.

As to your question, and as I have mentioned previously, the Crimea is non-negotiable for Russians and the bridge was considered a huge ‘plus’ as many from southern Russia use (used) that bridge to holiday in the Crimea by car or train. If, and it remains to be seen, it is merely an accident, then most will expect the Govt to repair it without undue delay. On the other hand, if it is sabotage, that will not be viewed kindly.

You probably know there have been Ukrainian/NATO suggestions about blowing up the bridge for the past 2-3 months as it is obviously a strategic asset.

These attacks, including the Nordstream, concern me greatly. There are some serious hardliners in the Kremlin that want to massively escalate (declaration of war as distinct from limited military).

It is early morning in Russia (8am) so will have more reaction as the people wake up to the news.

Lee
Lee
October 8, 2022 4:13 pm

Groogs all too readily provides a stool sample.

Who is Groogs?

bespoke
bespoke
October 8, 2022 4:14 pm

Who is Groogs?

JC

Lee
Lee
October 8, 2022 4:15 pm

Thanks, bespoke.
I assumed it was Ed Case.

cohenite
October 8, 2022 4:15 pm

Speaking of escalation:

Clint Ehrlich
@ClintEhrlich
?BREAKING: An explosion has severely damaged the Crimean Bridge that connects the peninsula to the Russian mainland.

Portions of the bridge have collapsed into the water.

This bridge is one of the emblems of Putin’s government. These are shocking visuals for Russians.

One of the memes I posted was about the demorats pulling a big crisis before the mid-terms. How big. How about provoking a nuclear war.

The biden shits have just bought $300 million worth of anti-radiation medicine. They blew up Nordhouse, now they’ve blown up a major piece of Russia infrastructure. The Ukraine is where the biden crime family did business. The Ukraine is one of the world’s major mineral and agriculture power-houses so the motivation is focused: not to lose the mid-terms and to protect a corrupt dynasty’s interests. How’s that sound. Maybe I should be scripting a daily soap opera.

bespoke
bespoke
October 8, 2022 4:21 pm

You assumed right Lee.

duncanm
duncanm
October 8, 2022 4:21 pm

In eight years, we need to build roughly three times the renewable capacity we built in the last 20 years, plus grid to connect the renewables and flexible capacity and storage to make sure the system works in all weather conditions.

that’s all that needs to be said.

Greens and ALP plans sound like the Underpants gnomes. They know business!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 8, 2022 4:22 pm

BREAKING: An explosion has severely damaged the Crimean Bridge that connects the peninsula to the Russian mainland.

Strange damage patterns. The road bridge looks more like it came down due to failure of the pylons, since the guardrails aren’t scorched or bent. No visible blast damage on the decking, just a section collapsed. But if it was hit from below how could the train on the upper bridge catch fire? Odd. We’ll find out eventually I suppose.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 8, 2022 4:24 pm

Groogs is Grigory M, greatest commenter to ever grace these pages.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 8, 2022 4:26 pm

Ed Case is off the pace.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 8, 2022 4:27 pm

No act is too low or too evil for the old Biden cunt.

Roger
Roger
October 8, 2022 4:30 pm

The story in the NYT the other day about the US blaming Ukraine for an assassination shows that the Yanks don’t really have full control over their client state.

And Zelensky doesn’t have full control over elements in the Ukrainian hard right.

Never did; they threatened to kill him when he proposed they search for a modus vivendi on the Donbas with the Russians after his election.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 8, 2022 4:31 pm

America has got weapons that Russia can’t defend against.
Remember the Moskva, flagship of Putin’s Black Sea fleet.
Caught fire, sank, same as this bridge.
Forget about their Woke Generals, Admirals wearing dresses, Lezzos sinking ships, that’s all pork barreling corruption.
Russia hasn’t got a fucking hope in an all out War with the U.S., neither has China.

Tom
Tom
October 8, 2022 4:39 pm

Groogs is Grigory M, greatest commenter to ever grace these pages.

Hahaha. The Cat’s most persistent troll finally confesses his mission for the past 15 years under an array of false email addresses — the NSW public service’s most faithful Green wrecker, who oversaw the Kung Flu fiasco.

The one thing these public service parasites have in common is that they have never had real jobs in the real economy.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 8, 2022 4:40 pm

Ed Casesays:
October 8, 2022 at 4:24 pm
Groogs is Grigory M, greatest commenter to ever grace these pages.

And Richard Cranium (Dick ‘Ed) is Grigory’s sock puppet.

Razey
Razey
October 8, 2022 4:40 pm

Ed Casesays:
October 8, 2022 at 4:31 pm
America has got weapons that Russia can’t defend against.

A raving overlord with Alzheimer’s.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 8, 2022 4:41 pm

they threatened to kill him when he proposed they search for a modus vivendi on the Donbas with the Russians

That’s the trouble with all this – the leaders are captured by the people under them and just have to keep going. Crimea is an example – not negotiable for Russians but also not negotiable for Ukrainians.

The Russia-Ukraine War Can Just Keep Going Forever (Daniel Greenfield, 7 Oct)

Remember this is a nationalistic conflict between two groups going back centuries. It’s not about Putin or Zelensky, it’s not about what happened at any particular date. Those are just some of the latest triggering mechanisms. Russians and Ukrainians both deeply resent each other and view this as their home soil. Nothing is fixing that except the kind of defeatist apathy and cultural decline that set in across Western Europe. Unlike the British or the French, both sides are willing to go on fighting to the death over what they consider their national birthright.

The short version of that is that even if this ends in some truce or temporary agreement, it will pick up again.

Intractable. I don’t have an answer.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 8, 2022 4:41 pm

A toast.

To fallen socks.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 8, 2022 4:44 pm

… the NSW public service’s most faithful Green wrecker, who oversaw the Kung Flu fiasco.
Is this true?
Anyway, I still reckon Grigory M is as good bloke.

duncanm
duncanm
October 8, 2022 4:45 pm

Meanwhile, the Health Dept is still chasing your DNA thru a stool sample.

How long before law enforcement decides it’d be handy to be able to find people through the sewer network?

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 8, 2022 4:47 pm

The Russia-Ukraine War Can Just Keep Going Forever (Daniel Greenfield, 7 Oct)

That’s the only truth in the entire article.
Putler doesn’t give a fuck about dead Russians and neither does Zelenskyy.

m0nty
m0nty
October 8, 2022 4:52 pm

There is no way the Crimea bridge attack is an accident. The road was a precision strike targeting the support pylons. The train strike was designed to burn through the tracks. Can’t be coincidence.

JC
JC
October 8, 2022 4:58 pm

H B Bear says:
October 8, 2022 at 4:07 pm
UPDATE: The rest of the Randwick meeting has just been abandoned.
Why do people live in Sydney?

Because it’s the most naturally beautiful city in the world.

MatrixTransform
October 8, 2022 4:59 pm

carrying over from yesterday,

if anybody is still interested in fallacies such as ‘begging the question’

then sancho and JC offer some excellent examples further up the page.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 8, 2022 5:03 pm

Putin Is a Serial Decision-Making Procrastinator, and Russia Is Paying the Price
Price that will haunt Russia for centuries
Anti-Empire 4 Oct 22

I see him fundamentally as a phenomenal procrastinator in terms of decision making. And usually waiting until the very end when all the best options are gone and he is forced into a decision, and he is only able to pick between poor options and worse options. And he takes the risk, he takes the action, but the efficacy is much lower than if he had done it much sooner.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 8, 2022 5:03 pm

Because it’s the most naturally beautiful city in the world.

Looks great out the window as you fly out of Mascot and forget the aggravation and expense of getting there. Just buy a postcard.

Roger
Roger
October 8, 2022 5:04 pm

Because it’s the most naturally beautiful city in the world.

It is that…but that’s a good reason to visit, not necessarily to live there these days.

I remember the last time we were there, crossing the harbour to Manly on the ferry, as you do, and we were sat next to a visiting English family. The daughter – must have been in her mid-teens – was just beaming the whole trip.

JC
JC
October 8, 2022 5:06 pm

Himars Transform the Battle for Ukraine—and Modern Warfare
The mobile, high-precision U.S. rocket system is thwarting Russia’s invasion as it revolutionizes military strategy
A Himars fires somewhere on Ukraine’s southern front.

A Himars fires somewhere on Ukraine’s southern front.

MYKOLAIV REGION, Ukraine—A global revolution in warfare is dramatically tipping the scales of the conflict between Ukraine and Russia, putting in the hands of front-line troops the kind of lethality that until recently required aircraft, ships or lumbering tracked vehicles. It also has the capacity to change battlefields far from Eastern Europe.

The centerpiece of the new battle order is the M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, or Himars. Provided by the U.S. and operated by Ukrainian soldiers since June, they are augmenting lightweight and precise weaponry that includes drones, Javelin antitank rockets and Stinger antiaircraft missiles, enabled by GPS guidance and advanced microelectronics.

Able to pick off Russian military bases, ammunition depots and infrastructure far behind front lines, Ukraine’s 16 Himars helped its troops this summer halt a bloody Russian advance. Since last month, Ukrainians have seized back swaths of territory in their country’s east and ground down Russian troops in the south. Washington recently pledged to deliver another 18 Himars.

Within Kyiv’s arsenal, Himars offer a unique combination of range, precision and mobility that allows them to do the job traditionally handled by dozens of launchers firing thousands of shells.

By shrinking launchers and nearly guaranteeing hits on targets, Himars and the other equipment are upending century-old assumptions about how wars must be fought—and particularly about military supplies. Himars’s vastly improved accuracy also collapses the massive logistical trail that modern infantry has demanded.

“Himars is one part of a precision revolution that turns heavily equipped armies into something light and mobile,” said Robert Scales, a retired U.S. Army major general who was among the first to envision Himars in the 1970s.

WSJ

areff
areff
October 8, 2022 5:06 pm

Not all bad news: Kiwi council elections reject Labour all over.

Better get your UN job lined up and the contract inked, Jacinda

JC
JC
October 8, 2022 5:07 pm

Whoops , should be all in quotes.

bespoke
bespoke
October 8, 2022 5:08 pm

Must have changed since I lived there. It will always be grubby and chaotic to me.

Tom
Tom
October 8, 2022 5:10 pm

Because it’s the most naturally beautiful city in the world.

True. Sydney is spectacularly beautiful — like San Francisco.

It’s amazing how quickly things turn to shit when you hand control to radical lunatics.

Sydney just has a shit climate verging on subtropical like Brisbane with the same Green municipal government.

The demise of Sydney has already begun.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 8, 2022 5:10 pm

132andBush at 2:45.
Quite so.
St Ruth divides the world into “jabbed” and “unjabbed” and believes that the jabbed will face an imminent and gruesome death, or deserve to suffer the righteous vengeance of the unjabbed.
I think you can categorise people on this matter at a slightly more granular level than that:-
.1 The politicians and medical bureacrats who imposed mandates and onerous restrictions on us all;
.2 The citizen supporters of the above. Enthusiastic Karens who were keenly pro-vax and loudly tried to impose masks, lockdowns, vaxxes etc on others. Think Monique Ryan and Adam Bandt;
.3 Those who willingly got vaxxed for personal health reasons but respected the choices made by others, either way, and did not support mandates;
.4 Those who unwillingly got vaxxed for various family and employment reasons and who, of course, are strongly against any mandates;
.5 The unvaxxed who made a personal decision, but also respect the rights of others to make their own decision;
.6 The St Ruths.
I would hazard a guess that there are no type 1’s or type 2’s on the Cat.
Someone here said a while ago (Mater/Marter?) about the time we reached 70% vaxxed, that the resistors should enlist the support of the Types 3’s and 4’s to try to knock over boosters and mandates ASAP, because the momentum for resisting jabs 1-2 had been lost.
This was, and is, a sound strategy.
However, I don’t think St Ruth is particularly interested in this approach. He would rather revel in his Glorious Martyrdom.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 8, 2022 5:11 pm

UK: Births in England Collapsed and are NOT Coming Back Up

A new UKHSA Sep 1, 2022 Vaccine Effectiveness Report* is out. The report says that it “applies to England”.

And it has very bad news. Live births dropped in England by 14% as of May 2022, and the decline seems to be worsening and not recovering.

*

Roger
Roger
October 8, 2022 5:11 pm

If it was not an accident but sabotage pretending this was a UKR operation without US assistance or foreknowledge is a hard sell.

We don’t know much and probably won’t until the war is over.

But I wouldn’t underestimate them.

Roger
Roger
October 8, 2022 5:16 pm

Not all bad news: Kiwi council elections reject Labour all over.

As I posted earlier in the week – the Nationals and ACT NZ would be forming a government if an election were held today. Things are much harder economically over there compard to here. Labor here are on 32% of the primary vote but are too engaged implementing their agenda to notice what’s coming down the line.

bons
bons
October 8, 2022 5:16 pm

Just received a text saying that while tensioning the post stress cables on the slab of my new place something went wrong and a tradie is VSI or worse.
That guarantees no sleep for this next leg of my flight.
Awful.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 8, 2022 5:17 pm

Hungary: Highest Vaccinated Counties Have Worst Birth Rate Drops!

Igor’s Newsletter

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 8, 2022 5:19 pm

15 Ton of tension in one of those cables.

Tom
Tom
October 8, 2022 5:19 pm

Tuvalu (J: J. Fry; T: L. Smith, Warrnambool) wins the Group 1 $1 million Toorak Handicap (1600m) at Caulfield – along with the earlier Might and Power Stakes, a preview of this month’s W.S. Cox Plate. Go, Lindsay Smith!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 8, 2022 5:21 pm

Look struth take up a hobby, like fishing.

Gonna need a bigger boat.

bons
bons
October 8, 2022 5:24 pm

I didn’t know that Ed. 15 tons.
Modern civil is amazing.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 8, 2022 5:25 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:

October 8, 2022 at 4:26 pm

Ed Case is off the pace.

In terms of the Q Race, I am not just off the pace, I am in the pit garage up on the jacks.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 8, 2022 5:28 pm

H B Bearsays:

October 8, 2022 at 4:41 pm

A toast.

To fallen socks.

Steady on.
Let’s not get stuck in too early.
We don’t want to be untidy at the Privileged Class dinner tonight at The Club.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 8, 2022 5:31 pm

Some comment from the link at 5:19pm:

Nuno Dias
Jul 4

That is probably because of ‘shedding’ of spike. I believe Dr. Malone was talking quite a bit on the topic, regarding the vaxxed shedding spike to the unvaxxed. Spike is toxic, period!

Myriam
Writes Heartfelt Experiences

One of my daughters who took the shots and maybe boosters, she has not shared that with me, is having massive blood clots during her cycle.

Faith
Writes ASnhat 40KFt
Jul 6
·

Regular courses of Ivermectin may help bind with the spikes and neutralize them. But some people have mentioned that maybe Ivermectin is not very effective against Omicron . . . Do any of you out there have any information on that?

Faith
Writes ASnhat 40KFt
Jul 4
·

It is highly unlikely that the “vaxxed” are passing on the genetic material from the shots because the nanoparticles supposedly latch on to and enter cells relatively quickly from the bloodstream.

So, theoretically it is only the spikes themselves that are circulating and being shed via all bodily fluids, including sweat. I did hear one brief mention that maybe the spikes can replicate, and I certainly hope not! But the drug companies have done a lot of work on self-replicating “vaccines” that vaccinate other animals around them. We just don’t know enough yet

.
Self replicating Vaccines?
Auntie Sancho, your thoughts, please?

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 8, 2022 5:37 pm
JC
JC
October 8, 2022 5:40 pm

Mr Ed

Stfu about the vax, unless you have evidence it turns men into flamers and sheilas into rid muchers.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 8, 2022 5:41 pm

Yeah, been told that if the sheath is severed [concrete cutters/road saw], the rope will tear up thru the concrete with enough force to cut a car in half.
A more usual accident is that the guy on the far end doesn’t sing out STOP when he sees the rope exit the sheath at speed and some dope walking past when he shouldn’t gets speared thru the lower leg.
That’s a best case scenario.
Next best is someone getting caught in the rope as it unspools.

Rabz
October 8, 2022 5:42 pm

Much of this was laid bare over the last two and half years when these groups said nada, zilch, nothing about lockdowns and how the human rights of Australians were being daily violated and trashed, particularly the human rights of Victorians, who were being handcuffed, bashed, beaten, run over and bludgeoned by the paramilitary wing of the Victorian Labor government, aka the Victorian police.

Magnifique, Squirette. This is why I will never ever forget, much less forgive.

HOP Time™ be upon them.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 8, 2022 5:43 pm

Ed wanks in with a 15 tones pulled from its ass.

Bons, hope the chap isn’t too bad, stored energy can be a real bugger if you are in the wrong place when it lets go.

Tom
Tom
October 8, 2022 5:44 pm

What could be the game here?

More legal warfare is inevitable.

The workforce hates the new owner. So does the management.

Classical capital versus labour standoff — same as every ideological argument for the past 200 years about the free market versus Marxism.

Speedbox
October 8, 2022 5:44 pm

BoN – yes, I noticed that. A whole road section appears to have just ‘disappeared’ whilst the train on the elevated rail platform is fully ablaze but there is no obvious correlation between the train fire and the road bridge collapse. Time will tell although given what happened with Nordstream, we can be forgiven for being initially suspicious.

But, and I have raised this before, if the Russian people perceive an escalating threat to Mother Russia they will demand a response and what’s more, will willingly be part of that response. The Russian psyche and commitment to the protection of Russian territory doesn’t always seem well understood by many in the West, and certainly not by commentators on social media and the MSM. They comment from the safety of their homes or offices ten thousand kilometres away and have probably never set foot in Russia or tried to understand the psyche.

Only recently when Putin announced the call up, the MSM focussed on the young men heading for the border to avoid the draft – but not shown in the MSM was the response by those same young men when asked if they would return to protect Russia. To a person they said that if Russia was attacked, they would return to protect the Motherland.

And this debate about whether Putin will use nuclear weapons is bullshit. He won’t – unless or until there is an existential threat to Russia. That has been made clear numerous times and is uniform with every nuclear armed nation on the planet regarding their own borders. But, the MSM are the useful idiots of the West and parrot whatever they are told by their ‘sources’ and some seem almost hopeful that Russia will act pre-emptively. Its obscene.

Putin might be a lunatic to some but he is the central hub that holds back the more extreme hardline clans whilst not letting what he perceives as the soft Gorbachev styled moderates getting too large a toehold. If Putin goes, we better pray the hardliners don’t rise to the top. Russian politics and their associated supporting clans are brutal and I’m not at all convinced that a shift in relative power isn’t already underway. Putin is still in charge but there are some things happening (or happened) that are very ‘interesting’ in what passes for Russian politics and the relative influence of specific clans. This latest attack feeds directly to the hawks.

I understand the strategic drive to destroy the bridge but the attack on Nordstream and (probably) on the Kerch Straight Bridge has big implications because if this act prompts a broader mobilisation (declaration of war), a war mobilised Russia will not be stoppable by Ukraine, no matter how many weapons the West funnels in. The oft quoted ‘fight to the last Ukrainian’ – you better believe it.

/sorry, rant off.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 8, 2022 5:45 pm

JC
It looks like vaxxed ladies can forget about being RugMunched unless they go on a date with Dracula.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 8, 2022 5:47 pm

What could be the game here?

More legal warfare is inevitable.

The workforce hates the new owner. So does the management.

Classical capital versus labour standoff — same as every ideological argument for the past 200 years about the free market versus Marxism.

OK but Twitter was suing Musk to go through with the deal at the original price. He has agreed to do that. WTF can they still sue for?

Cassie of Sydney
October 8, 2022 5:50 pm

“Labor here are on 32% of the primary vote but are too engaged implementing their agenda to notice what’s coming down the line.”

Indeed and I’ll take my hat off to them for this, Labor doesn’t waste any time implementing its agenda., unlike the stupid fucking Liberals who wasted, how many years was it? Oh that’s right, almost nine years.

Rabz
October 8, 2022 5:51 pm

Ah … a court case about a little public servant drunken whore who got caught with her knickers orf.
Imagine that with all going on in the world right now, this is being followed and commented on.

St Ruth, I’m not one to wish misfortune on others, but I’d love to see you before a jury of pink and green haired heavily twattooed cellulite laden collectivist blandwhales deliberating whether or not you’d transgressed the “believe all wymminses” mantra by (allegedly) looking lustfully at a bimbette in a roadhouse parking lot*.

The ALPCT drunken bimbo farce matters because of the precedent it may yet set.

*Before aurally assailing the personages inside with many, many excruciating Slim Dusty covers. 😕

bons
bons
October 8, 2022 5:52 pm

Thanks Mole.
Very pleased that the engineer talked me out of the insane idea of acting as owner/project manager.
I know most of this crew so I am concerned, but can’t communicate until Sydney.

JC
JC
October 8, 2022 5:52 pm
bespoke
bespoke
October 8, 2022 5:54 pm

/sorry, rant off.

No need for sorry.

Makka
Makka
October 8, 2022 5:59 pm

Oh that’s right, almost nine years.

9 years of becoming an ever decreasing target and footprint until they disappeared up their own arseholes. Cowards and poseurs.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 8, 2022 6:03 pm

Sad Sook struth comes here almost every day saying the same thing. Grow up and fuck off. The furniture shop is the ideal forum for you. No doubt falling at your feet in wonderment of how a bread truck driver is the saviour of Australia. Do they throw rose petals to soften your step and perfume the air of the shit in your shorts.

Cassie of Sydney
October 8, 2022 6:04 pm

“/sorry, rant off.”

Love your rants Speedbox. Thank you.

I’ve just returned from having lunch at my sister’s place and my bil who’s half White Russian, and who’s never one to say much whilst my sister, mother and I rant and rave about all the world’s issues, including Ukraine/Russia and Putin/Zelensky, actually spoke up and said that anyone who thinks that once Putin is gonski, his replacement will be some nice, cuddly western type democrat is living in la la land.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 8, 2022 6:05 pm

The Liars do what it says on the packet. Delivering for the 32%.

Winston Smith
October 8, 2022 6:07 pm

rickw:

I brought an Adler B220, tube magazine, works a treat. Cheap as chips to as they trashed their brand with their 12g lever gun.

Do you have any suggestions for a shottie for Terminal Defence?
Being the worlds second worst shot, I had need for a backup when I annoyed a pig and my second round misfed.
How embarrassment!

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 8, 2022 6:08 pm

… said that anyone who thinks that once Putin is gonski, his replacement will be some nice, cuddly western type democrat …

Classic Western thinking. They don’t want to negotiate with you they want to destroy you.

Mater
October 8, 2022 6:09 pm

Someone here said a while ago (Mater/Marter?) about the time we reached 70% vaxxed, that the resistors should enlist the support of the Types 3’s and 4’s to try to knock over boosters and mandates ASAP, because the momentum for resisting jabs 1-2 had been lost.

I did, yes.

Mater’s Musings #43: Attention ‘Purebloods’

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 8, 2022 6:12 pm

The ALPCT drunken bimbo farce matters because of the precedent it may yet set.

This is correct.
For someone who has been banging on about lost fweedoms for years, that was a pretty obtuse comment, even by St Ruth standards.
Like the Pell case, R vs Lehrmann is a test of whether the centuries old principle of “reasonable doubt” in criminal trials is to be sacrificed on the altar of #metoo.
And the Pell case was only saved at the eleventh hour by the High Court.
This principle is far more important and relevant to ordinary Australians (particularly men) than whether Klaus has a tunnel full of red shoes.

Rabz
October 8, 2022 6:12 pm

You submitted
You enabled tyranny

FFS, will you give it a rest, you obnoxious monomaniac.

DaFisk
DaFisk
October 8, 2022 6:14 pm

Ooh lookee here! Vice PM of Ukraine dropping a not so subtle hint as to how the bridge explosion might have gone down…

https://twitter.com/FedorovMykhailo/status/1578620140018860032

Winston Smith
October 8, 2022 6:14 pm

Vicki:

No way that my breeding herd will be vaccinated with mRNA vax. I foresee that this opposition will be harder to maintain than the vax of yours truly, as the regulations relating to livestock are onerous. But I will do my best.

They can bring an enormous amount of pressure to bear, Vicki.
See if you can arrange a contract to supply the Parliament House Noshpit – I’m sure they’ll be only too happy to supply an exemption for your breeding herd…
🙂

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 8, 2022 6:15 pm

I really want to be sympathetic about this. But. The Hun:

A young woman who was struck by a rollercoaster as she tried to retrieve her phone has been dealt another cruel blow – this time by a lack of donations towards her recovery.

Shylah Rodden, 26, was hit by the Rebel Coaster at the Royal Melbourne Show on September 25. She suffered awful facial injuries in the crash, is still in a serious condition and may never live a normal life again.

With that in mind, her friends set up a GoFundMe page with the aim of raising $20,000 to help her with her lengthy recovery. But in a tragic twist, only nine people have pledged money towards the fundraiser – with a paltry total of $1500 raised by 6am on Saturday.

The woman – 26 years of age, mind you – drops her phone on the rollercoaster track while rollercoasting. Is told by the carnies that this happens all the time, and that they will get it for her when the next ride stops. Carnies say not to do it herself, and that they will do it in a minute.

Oh, no. No no no.

Climbs over a fence designed to stop people retrieving phones from rollercoaster tracks while the rollercoaster is rollercoastering. Picks up phone from track, just in time to be smacked by rollercoaster which drags her to the top of the ride by her face, before dropping her 30 feet to the deck.

The piece describes this as a tragedy. It’s nowhere near a tragedy. If Ms Rodden had her face ripped off by a falling piano while waiting for a hot dog – that might qualify for tragedyness, but not this.

The only thing accidental about the entire thing was the dropping of the phone in the first place. The rest of it’s a combination of stupidity and dunderheadedness, so it’s no wonder people aren’t forking out their hard-earned for something that was wholly Rodden’s fault..

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 8, 2022 6:16 pm

And the Pell case was only saved at the eleventh hour by the High Court.

Pretty convincingly. I wouldn’t start to lose sleep over this just yet – perhaps in Victoriastan. Why haven’t you left yet?

cohenite
October 8, 2022 6:17 pm

The demise of Sydney has already begun.

Wait til the lights go out: it’ll be like Night of the Living Dead.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 8, 2022 6:18 pm

I have raised this before, if the Russian people perceive an escalating threat to Mother Russia they will demand a response and what’s more, will willingly be part of that response.

I agree Speedy. That’s also the essence of what Daniel Greenfield is saying. Which is what is so tragic – both populations can hold grudges until the end of time, and are willing to fight invaders to the knife. And both regard the same bits of territory as sacrosanct to their national pride, so the invaders don’t see themselves as invaders. But the other side does, going in both directions. As I said, I don’t see an answer. The wars between France and England went on in fits and spurts for something like five hundred years before they gave it away.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 8, 2022 6:19 pm

Sydney is a top place.
Until you want to go somewhere.

Winston Smith
October 8, 2022 6:21 pm

HT:

Does that make me a simp? BTE, my surgery was finally undertaken during the last hospital shutdown announced by Merlino. What started as a simple surgical fix at the very beginning of the COVID hysteria, turned into an 6 hour emergency surgery with three specialists battling to keep me alive.

No, it doesn’t make you a simp.
I’d liken your circumstance to the tree that bent at the height of the storm. To continue resisting just to make a point, would be stupidity ^infinity.
Sounds like you were a bit crook – if you don’t mind me asking, what the hell was wrong?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 8, 2022 6:21 pm

I disagree with what you say, and you deserve to die you traitorous fuckhead.

– Ruth Voltaire.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 8, 2022 6:22 pm

The demise of Sydney has already begun

Sydney will remain Australia’s preeminent city for the foreseeable future. Melbourne will eventually be bigger because it is surrounded by relatively flat cow paddocks. I will be happy to live in neither.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 8, 2022 6:23 pm

H B Bearsays:

October 8, 2022 at 6:16 pm

And the Pell case was only saved at the eleventh hour by the High Court.

Pretty convincingly. I wouldn’t start to lose sleep over this just yet – perhaps in Victoriastan. Why haven’t you left yet?

Where to?
Sneakerstan?

Rabz
October 8, 2022 6:25 pm

anyone who thinks that once Putin is gonski, his replacement will be some nice, cuddly western type democrat

I’ve tried to study the Russian psyche* and have come to the conclusion that they are not “Westerners” in any imaginable sense. They may look like us, they may love writing, art and music like we used to, but they have a deep contempt for and distrust of westerners. Seventy years of illegitimate collectivist barbarity, not to mention the horrors of WW2, followed by the triumph of a monstrous gangster class has put paid to any of that.

We can only hope that putin doesn’t try to go all scorched earth on the West as he goes down like the Tsar and his family.

*Reading, watching, attempting to understand the language – the meloncholy, FFS …

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 8, 2022 6:25 pm

Sydney is a top place.

The Steyne Hotel in Manly. Brilliant.

Second place goes to The Pebblecreter’s Arms in Vaucluse.

custard
custard
October 8, 2022 6:26 pm

I didn’t know that areff, but it seems these people are everywhere. Konnech

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 8, 2022 6:27 pm

Where to?

Anywhere.

custard
custard
October 8, 2022 6:28 pm

Konnech and it’s operation in the USA is big news. The CEO has been arrested.

Rabz
October 8, 2022 6:29 pm

Tom says: Rocktober 8, 2022 at 5:10 pm

For those of you bashing Sydney, such as the personage above, I’m not having it.

I still love the place and know how to easily move around in it. Admittedly, a lifetime of local knowledge helps.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 8, 2022 6:35 pm

If the concept of “invasion” is acknowledged and accepted, then the concept of “native title” becomes obsolete, as the High Court decision was based on Australia being settled, not “invaded”

If the concept of “invasion” is acknowledged, doesn’t that raise the issue that few races mounted such a futile resistance, or were conquered so utterly, as the indigenous Australian? “”First Nations?” You failed utterly in the first duty of any Nation – to protect it’s subjects from invasion. “Treaty?” Sorry, conquered races don’t get to dictate terms – to the victor the spoils.

Speedbox
October 8, 2022 6:36 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
October 8, 2022 at 6:04 pm

Thanks. Sometimes we all need to tell a few home-truths.

And your BIL is correct. There are numerous factions (clans) within Russian politics and they generally orbit around money (the oligarchs), politics and defence/technology. The relationships or alliances can shift subject to their relative influence rising and falling. Putin is the hub….. and a manipulator, par excellence, as he sees fit.

But there appears to be some weird shit going on and, I’m concerned at an increase in relative influence of the hawks from this latest attack. Even if Putin was replaced through illness or worse, assassination, the subsequent power struggle could easily give rise to a new cold war, and who knows how that could end up. Hoping for a dove who is friendly to the west to replace Putin is just naïve.

DaFisk
DaFisk
October 8, 2022 6:37 pm
Roger
Roger
October 8, 2022 6:37 pm

The other thing to think about here, if as you say, the assassination of Dugina, the destruction/ damage to Nord Stream 1 and 2, and now Kerch Bridge, were escalatory attacks undertaken by UKR without US/ UK/ what have you

I don’t think I’ve said that directly; I’ve said I think it’s plausible. They’ve been blowing up infrastructure and military targets in Russia and the Crimea for months now.

We know their special forces had UK training and probably US CIA input. Do they still need that to operate? Perhaps not…we don’t know. The attack on Dugin missed it’s target, which suggests to me they didn’t have “eyes” on the subject.

Roger
Roger
October 8, 2022 6:38 pm

Speedy, Godspeed to your wife and daughter as they travel.

Cassie of Sydney
October 8, 2022 6:39 pm

“Seventy years of illegitimate collectivist barbarity, not to mention the horrors of WW2, followed by the triumph of a monstrous gangster class has put paid to any of that.”

Oh I think it goes back to a time well before the revolution, serfdom played a significant role in the development of the Russian psyche. Russians revere ruthless leaders like Ivan the Terrible, Peter the Great, Catherine the Great, Tsars Nicholas I and Alexander II, Lenin and Stalin. All of these leaders were tsars. Putin is following in their footsteps.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 8, 2022 6:44 pm

custardsays:

October 8, 2022 at 6:28 pm

Konnech and it’s operation in the USA is big news. The CEO has been arrested.

In Gitmo?

bespoke
bespoke
October 8, 2022 6:46 pm

Matersays:
October 8, 2022 at 6:09 pm

It was interesting reading the responses again.

Some observations.
It doesn’t look like opinions have soften.
At some point trying to hard to sound Churchillian it becomes comical.
And people who believe in the vax can still be allies against the cohesion.

P
P
October 8, 2022 6:52 pm

Rabz says:
October 8, 2022 at 6:29 pm

For those of you bashing Sydney, such as the personage above, I’m not having it.

I still love the place and know how to easily move around in it. Admittedly, a lifetime of local knowledge helps.

My City of Sydney

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
October 8, 2022 6:52 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
October 8, 2022 at 5:21 pm

Look struth take up a hobby, like fishing.

Gonna need a bigger boat.

Didn’t someone have a cheap one cylinder job, maybe he could buy that, and it comes with a whine.

custard
custard
October 8, 2022 6:52 pm

Ezra Cohen-Watnick

cohenite
October 8, 2022 6:56 pm

Sydney is a top place.

The Steyne Hotel in Manly. Brilliant.

Second place goes to The Pebblecreter’s Arms in Vaucluse.

I got pissed and woke up in the Bondi gutter once. Went for a swim in the Bondi surf. Bracing stuff.

Mater
October 8, 2022 7:01 pm

At some point trying to hard to sound Churchillian it becomes comical.

That was kinda the intent.

bespoke
bespoke
October 8, 2022 7:05 pm

OK chuckle!

Winston Smith
October 8, 2022 7:10 pm

Boambee John:

Our friends in China and Russia have got a stack of stuff coming on line. The Bidens sold the US mines to them.

Wasn’t that sale approved by Obama and Shrillary as Sec of State?

Pretty sure it was, John.
The other disturbing part is that one of the mines is an Australian one. (IIRC)

DaFisk
DaFisk
October 8, 2022 7:14 pm

If it wasn’t apparent before, the era of neo-liberalism is now officially over –

https://twitter.com/AmbassadorTai/status/1578436512739229701

cohenite
October 8, 2022 7:39 pm

Just a reminder about what that vomitous scab fitzsimons said about 9.11, 2 weeks after it happened:

Hello. We are sorry. We are desperately sorry that the world has now moved to the point where it is on the edge of an abyss from which there can be no return. We accept that such hate as drove the planes into the World Trade Centre towers can only have come from incredible suffering, and we are desperately sorry for that suffering, even if we are yet to come to grips with its specific cause.

The time has come where people like fitzsimons really need to be held to account. So here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft5DV9Eic4U

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 8, 2022 7:45 pm

custardsays:

October 8, 2022 at 6:52 pm

Ezra Cohen-Watnick

Exactly!

custard
custard
October 8, 2022 7:51 pm

WHAT HAPPENS IF BIDEN BECAME POTUS KNOWING HE [THROUGH HUNTER + 2] TOOK MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF BRIBES TO CHANGE [LOOK THE OTHER WAY] US POLICY TOWARDS CHINA [IN FAVOR OF CHINA]?
WOULD CHINA OWN AND CONTROL THE WHITE HOUSE?
Q

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 8, 2022 7:51 pm

Speedbox

The Russian psyche and commitment to the protection of Russian territory doesn’t always seem well understood by many in the West, and certainly not by commentators on social media and the MSM.

One of the Russian aircraft designers (Mikoyan???) was in a Gulag when Hitler’s armies invaded. Taken from the Gulag to Moscow, invited to “serve the Rodina”(not the Communist party), he agreed and got straight to work.

Rodina trumps all.

custard
custard
October 8, 2022 7:52 pm

Cue post 4821 dated 8th October

bespoke
bespoke
October 8, 2022 7:53 pm

I’m deaf!

m0nty
m0nty
October 8, 2022 7:54 pm

I have little patience for the argument that Putin’s replacement would be worse. Okay, so he’s pretty old and sick as it is, isn’t that already baked in? Thus Russia will only get worse with its next leader, which makes it all the more important to oppose its imperial agenda and not appease its warmonger faction with weak decisions.

If you are going to whine that the bloke after Putin would be worse, you need to give us your plan for changing the line of succession. Otherwise that point means nothing.

HT
HT
October 8, 2022 7:55 pm

Ed Case says:
October 8, 2022 at 4:31 pm
America has got weapons that Russia can’t defend against.
Remember the Moskva, flagship of Putin’s Black Sea fleet.
Caught fire, sank, same as this bridge.
Forget about their Woke Generals, Admirals wearing dresses, Lezzos sinking ships, that’s all pork barreling corruption.
Russia hasn’t got a fucking hope in an all out War with the U.S., neither has China.

Indeed, the USA would hand either country its arse in an all out, all in war. Americas problem though is it lacks the will to enter an all out, all in war anymore. It’s spirit had been hollowed out by its misadventures in the ME trying to win the peace. America needs to get its mojo back, and reset its mission parameters to “win the war”, and walk away whilst there is still smoke in the air. Forget the post-war nation rebuilding crap – kick the enemies arse and leave them to the smoking ruins they bought down on their on heads.

custard
custard
October 8, 2022 7:55 pm

2020 actually

Future proves past

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 8, 2022 7:56 pm

This whole Ukraine shit show is starting to look like a gigantic gangster battle (at the taxpayers expense).

Rabz
October 8, 2022 7:58 pm

I’M NOT HAVING IT, I TELLS YA!

bespoke
bespoke
October 8, 2022 7:59 pm

Tell us more about Starlink.
Are you using your own router?

Cassie of Sydney
October 8, 2022 8:01 pm

“I have little patience for the argument that Putin’s replacement would be worse. “

Yeah, and most of us have little patience for any of your adolescent “arguments”. You don’t even know the basics of history, moron.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 8, 2022 8:01 pm

cohenitesays:

October 8, 2022 at 7:39 pm

Just a reminder about what that vomitous scab fitzsimons said about 9.11, 2 weeks after it happened:

Let’s also not forget those two ex diplomats (Broinowskis?) who were victim blaming after the Bali bombing.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 8, 2022 8:04 pm

WHAT HAPPENS IF

Mass arrests, of course.

Or not.

custard
custard
October 8, 2022 8:06 pm

bespoke

StarLink is available in Australia

My taking the service on is just making sure I have connectivity in the event of a global shutdown.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 8, 2022 8:06 pm

m0ntysays:
October 8, 2022 at 7:54 pm
I have little patience for the argument that Putin’s replacement would be worse. Okay, so he’s pretty old and sick as it is, isn’t that already baked in? Thus Russia will only get worse with its next leader, which makes it all the more important to oppose its imperial agenda and not appease its warmonger faction with weak decisions.

If you are going to whine that the bloke after Putin would be worse, you need to give us your plan for changing the line of succession. Otherwise that point means nothing.

m0nty-fa

I have little patience with Chickenhawks who are gagging for war. Tell us your grand plan to change the “line of succession” without starting World War III, or shut up.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 8, 2022 8:07 pm
Vicki
Vicki
October 8, 2022 8:08 pm

Wow! That front moving across NSW has turned out more than we anticipated. Our rain gauge overflowed at 53ml & it is still raining. House is surrounded by water (ground was saturated before this rainfall)- although slow moving and shallow overflow from surrounding slopes. Most of cows moved themselves to higher ground except for 4 idiot Angus cows which are now surrounded by water, though still on dry ground. If the dam doesn’t burst (slipway still working well) they can get high ground on its outer banks. Thought of cutting fence wires but they are too stupid to move out anyway. The rain trough has unfortunately been deep and slow moving and is still depositing plenty of rain. Am concerned for others in our valley, but at the moment – especially as it is nightfall – we couldn’t get out easily to help them anyway.

Looked at BOM radar & it is moving inevitably to the coast – but no doubt the accumulated water will still rise during the night.

Land of droughts and floods……

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 8, 2022 8:09 pm

Just read Q2381 in its entirety.

I completely disagree with the content.

Honey is essential when making a quality bolognese. Q reckons it’s only an option, dependent on the type of meat you use.

Pfft. Barbarian.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 8, 2022 8:10 pm

Already seen talk about using mRNA tech for the annual flu shot.

After the COVID Vax ‘learnings’, thats off my to do list also.

bespoke
bespoke
October 8, 2022 8:10 pm

custard

Iv only started looking into star link. Some are saying using your own router has limitations.

What’s the the security like on the one provided?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 8, 2022 8:11 pm

in the event of a global shutdown

I have it on good authority Faulty predicted a shutdown of this very type for 10 September.

And then 14, 17, 21 and 26 September.

MatrixTransform
October 8, 2022 8:12 pm

Thus Russia will only get worse with its next leader, which makes it all the more important to oppose its imperial agenda and not appease its warmonger faction with weak decisions.

labouring a point but still, what an excellent example of ‘begging the question’ from mUnty.

he truly is the best at it by a long shot though daFisk is catching up quickly

don’t discount sancho and JC either. Lately theyve been getting it on big-time

and rosie is a dark horse … may have a few tricks up her sleeve yet

custard
custard
October 8, 2022 8:13 pm

The cue posts are a marker KD

Not the truth, the whole truth or anything. Just a marker, a confirmation…

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 8, 2022 8:15 pm

which makes it all the more important to oppose its imperial agenda

It’s about the money, mOnster.

Most Americans shouldn’t give two fucks about Ukraine. This will eventually be dubbed as “Biden’s Backers War” (funded by American taxpayers).

Zipster
Zipster
October 8, 2022 8:15 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 8, 2022 8:16 pm

REPORT THIS AD!

custard
custard
October 8, 2022 8:17 pm

bespoke StarLink forced me to create a secure wireless network.

It’s great.

It only works at my address.

CustardStarLink

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 8, 2022 8:19 pm

Blind Freddy could have seen what was coming here.

Look to the East.

Roger
Roger
October 8, 2022 8:20 pm

What have UKR SOF done with any frequency in Russia either infrastructure or military?

Well, the attacks in Bryansk, Kursk, Rostov and Belgorod oblasts that the Russian defence department attributes blames to them for, for starters.

bespoke
bespoke
October 8, 2022 8:22 pm

Starlink say you use a VPN but I want to run my own aswell as adguard and ddns.

Speedbox
October 8, 2022 8:23 pm

m0nty says:
October 8, 2022 at 7:54 pm
If you are going to whine that the bloke after Putin would be worse, you need to give us your plan for changing the line of succession.

I haven’t seen one comment that affirms that Putin’s replacement would be worse. Certainly I’ve never said so. I have said that the MSM and other commentators, that seem to be salivating over Putin’s demise, need to be careful what they wish for. The machinations of Russian politics are complex and many in the West seem to presume that Putin’s successor will be a moderate who will end the war and seek forgiveness. That is naïve. There are plenty of hawks in Russian politics and some of those have powerful support bases. I mentioned yesterday that when Putin steps down will be a worrying time for the West while we wait and see who rises to the top job.

As for the line of succession, assorted names appear from time to time but who knows whether these names are genuine contenders, or just a ploy to throw the West off the trail or, yet another manipulation for local consumption by the Grand Master of Manipulation, Vlad Putin. The MSM wouldn’t know and neither would the CIA.

As for appeasement – I haven’t seen anyone on the Cat make a suggestion that was even close to suggesting appeasement.

custard
custard
October 8, 2022 8:23 pm

Who is the east Armadillo?

custard
custard
October 8, 2022 8:23 pm

I had to turn the VPN off

Mater
October 8, 2022 8:25 pm

Iv only started looking into star link. Some are saying using your own router has limitations.
What’s the the security like on the one provided?

Bespoke,
You can use your own router. They provide one, but the wireless range is limited compared to other third party options. You need to keep the provided router and connect it to do reboots, get support, etc, but that’s rare. It’s just plug and play when needed, and revert to other router afterwards.

I’ve seen nothing out of the ordinary in regards to security.

A bloody great option which is fast, and a little less controlled by the government. Can have the occasional short outage during really foul weather, but usually only around 5 minutes, and far less frequent than NBN.

Highly recommended.

Zipster
Zipster
October 8, 2022 8:25 pm

Global Shut Down | THEY ARE ABOUT TO SWITCH GEARS
As A Man Thinketh conversations with David Dubyne from @Adapt 2030 on the extent of crop losses and manufacturing shutdowns.

Razey
Razey
October 8, 2022 8:25 pm

flyingduksays:
October 8, 2022 at 8:07 pm
Been thinking about investing in a 12g Browning A-bolt.

My house gun is an Akkar triple.

Watch a youtube vid on that. That thing fires those 3 rounds incredible fast. It might even beat a 7 shot semi auto in continuous rapid fire if you had to keep reloading.

MatrixTransform
October 8, 2022 8:25 pm

Let’s get it on
-Marvin Gaye

Indolent
Indolent
October 8, 2022 8:26 pm

US Life Expectancy Fell With COVID Vax Rollout, NY Times Blames a Lack of Vaccination and White People

The portion of the U.S. population fully vaccinated against COVID-19 rose from 0 percent at the outset of 2021 to 63 percent by the end of the year. Yet, the CDC recently estimated that average U.S. life expectancy fell by 0.9 years in 2021. This is in addition to a 1.8 year decline in 2020—and contrary to predictions that COVID vaccines could reverse this carnage.

So lock downs and the “vaccine” had a negative effect. Who knew.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 8, 2022 8:26 pm

The undermining of the illegally built bridge across the Kerch Strait was a special operation of the SBU, – Interfax-Ukraine, citing a source in the law enforcement agencies of Ukraine.

The video shows two trucks in the right lane, maybe 200 meters apart. Each truck appears to have a car alongside in the left lane, keeping pace. Escort cars? Trucks carrying something dangerous and/or valuable?

bespoke
bespoke
October 8, 2022 8:27 pm

I had to turn the VPN off

Why

Mater
October 8, 2022 8:30 pm

Starlink say you use a VPN but I want to run my own aswell as adguard and ddns.

I use Nord, and have never had an issue with it.

The only difference I’ve noticed from my old standard internet, is the confusion it causes for anything which geolocates. It puts me in Sydney by default. We get Sydney TV through streaming. I’d suggest theirs a ground station for it in Sydney.

Roger
Roger
October 8, 2022 8:32 pm

I suppose the only other feasible explanation is that those attacks, with their attendant civilian casualties, were the work of Russian intelligence services trying to foment anti-Ukrainian sentiment.

It’s a lovely war.

bespoke
bespoke
October 8, 2022 8:34 pm

I use wireguard home Mater.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 8, 2022 8:34 pm

m0nty-fa is almost a caricature of the “progressive” changes on the fascist left.

Thirty or less years ago, the fascist left rioted in the streets against globalisation. Now they are hot for it.

In the 1960s, 70s, 80s, 90s and oughties they rioted against war (specifically nuclear war in the earlier decades. Now they are hot for war.

Since there is no obvious evidence that the fat fascist fool is capable of thinking for himself, it seems reasonable to assume that he is following the lead of “chatter on lefty websites”.

This suggests that there has been a sea-change in lefty attitudes. What caused this? the simple answer is that, having attained power, the fascist left is now showing their real feelings, after camouflaging them for decades.

Time for a conservative (genuine, not bogus in the way m0nty-fa claims to be conservative) “Long March Through the Institutions”, with maybe a little HoP time on the way?

custard
custard
October 8, 2022 8:35 pm

bespoke

StarLink costs $974 + dollars

You get to keep the hardware

$134 dollars a month after that

My subscription is mainly taking a bet around communications.

Zipster
Zipster
October 8, 2022 8:39 pm

US Life Expectancy Fell With COVID Vax Rollout, NY Times Blames a Lack of Vaccination and White People

excess deaths, falling birth rates, lower life expectancy, inflation out of control, recession, rising rates, war.

2023 is going to be a shocker

bespoke
bespoke
October 8, 2022 8:39 pm

That’s a lot, custard. Did you check out sky muster?

custard
custard
October 8, 2022 8:39 pm

The rollout of StarLink is not a coincidence

custard
custard
October 8, 2022 8:40 pm

Space Force

Rabz
October 8, 2022 8:40 pm

with maybe a little HOP Time™ on the way

Lots and lots of it, BJ – too much will be barely enough. 🙂

Razey
Razey
October 8, 2022 8:41 pm

Zipstersays:
October 8, 2022 at 8:39 pm
US Life Expectancy Fell With COVID Vax Rollout, NY Times Blames a Lack of Vaccination and White People

excess deaths, falling birth rates, lower life expectancy, inflation out of control, recession, rising rates, war.

2023 is going to be a shocker

This is correct.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 8, 2022 8:42 pm

Watch a youtube vid on that. That thing fires those 3 rounds incredible fast. It might even beat a 7 shot semi auto in continuous rapid fire if you had to keep reloading.

With a bit of practice, you can ripple fire it from the waist 😉

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 8, 2022 8:44 pm

SPACE FORCE!!!

m0nty
m0nty
October 8, 2022 8:45 pm

As for appeasement – I haven’t seen anyone on the Cat make a suggestion that was even close to suggesting appeasement.

Armadillo speaks for a lot of Cats when he says in this very thread that Ukraine is not the West’s fight, implying that the US should let Vlad rip. Trumpist isolationism, if it is a coherent doctrine, would dictate that Putin should be allowed to dominate Europe because Trump thinks he’s a strongman to be admired.

As for “be careful what you wish for”… I wish for imperialism to be fought, not enabled. If whatever comes after Putin is worse, they must be fought too. Putin started this war, not the West. He is extreme enough now that he must be opposed.

Putin is not a necessary evil that we must endure. Russia doesn’t have to be an empire.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 8, 2022 8:48 pm

StarLink?
Space Force?

If this isn’t about Battlestar Galactica, I’m going to be disppointed.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 8, 2022 8:49 pm

Assuming Biden is actually “Commander in Chief” of America is farcical. The bloke can hardly string a sentence together. Everyone has seen the videos.

I suspect that Russia has exactly the same issue. It begs the question.

Some cabal of “unelected persons” are deciding your fate at the moment. You don’t even know their names.

rickw
rickw
October 8, 2022 8:49 pm

So lock downs and the “vaccine” had a negative effect. Who knew.

government@work

Honestly, what are we paying these arseholes for? Crumbling infrastructure, unreliable electricity, education that’s indoctrination, hospitals that don’t hospital and a gay defence force. Fucking awesome.

MatrixTransform
October 8, 2022 8:49 pm

Putin started this war, not the West. He is extreme enough now that he must be opposed

mUnty … you’re still the gold standard

custard
custard
October 8, 2022 8:49 pm

Montifa says Putin started the war.

This is false.

Rabz
October 8, 2022 8:49 pm
Razey
Razey
October 8, 2022 8:50 pm

flyingduksays:
October 8, 2022 at 8:42 pm
Watch a youtube vid on that. That thing fires those 3 rounds incredible fast. It might even beat a 7 shot semi auto in continuous rapid fire if you had to keep reloading.

With a bit of practice, you can ripple fire it from the waist

But, $800 for a 7 shot B220 vs $2,400 for the Akkar. B220 best ‘bang’ for buck probably.

Cassie of Sydney
October 8, 2022 8:50 pm

“As for “be careful what you wish for”… I wish for imperialism to be fought, not enabled. If whatever comes after Putin is worse, they must be fought too. Putin started this war, not the West. He is extreme enough now that he must be opposed”

LOL….this is ABC comedy level drivel. Stick to abortion, at least your drivel made some sense.

Rabz
October 8, 2022 8:51 pm

(audible in) SPACE FARCE!!! 😕

rickw
rickw
October 8, 2022 8:52 pm

Watch a youtube vid on that. That thing fires those 3 rounds incredible fast. It might even beat a 7 shot semi auto in continuous rapid fire if you had to keep reloading.

My shotgun tip of the day: straight pull shotgun, remove the front grip for inspection, wear a glove.

Just like the good old days!

Razey
Razey
October 8, 2022 8:53 pm

Rabzsays:
October 8, 2022 at 8:49 pm
Such a beautiful song.

This song is great for getting motivated to fight the woke fascists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K70nC0FbxiU

Cassie of Sydney
October 8, 2022 8:53 pm

“This suggests that there has been a sea-change in lefty attitudes. What caused this? the simple answer is that, having attained power, the fascist left is now showing their real feelings, after camouflaging them for decades.”

Yep.

areff
areff
October 8, 2022 8:54 pm

It begs the question.

I give up.

rickw
rickw
October 8, 2022 8:54 pm

But, $800 for a 7 shot B220 vs $2,400 for the Akkar. B220 best ‘bang’ for buck probably.

B220 is best bang for buck. Think B220 when you read previous comment!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 8, 2022 8:57 pm

Jail threats force regional transfer for wife killer Chris Dawson
exclusive
Matthew Condon
Senior Reporter
12:04PM October 8, 2022

Convicted wife killer Chris Dawson has been transferred from Sydney to a regional prison following threats against his life.

Dawson, 74, was found guilty in August of murdering wife Lynette Dawson in early 1982 and was ­incarcerated in Sydney’s Silver­water remand centre awaiting sentencing.

But last month, after numerous physical and verbal threats, he was shifted to the new hi-tech Macquarie Correctional Centre outside the township of Wellington, 360km northwest of Sydney.

Dawson will be sentenced by judge Ian Harrison on ­November 11.

His solicitor, Greg Walsh, on Friday confirmed the transfer.

“He was in Silverwater remand prison and normally prisoners are kept there until they’re sentenced but I think because of his profile, there were issues, and for some reason he’s been shifted,” Mr Walsh said.
READ MORE:Inmates out to kill me, says Dawson|Chris and Paul Dawson inseparable no more|How Chris Dawson groomed JC

“I’ve not been made privy to the reasons. You know, I can’t speculate about that … it might have been just simply there was a ­vacancy they could afford to him at this time. There’s probably a lesser number of prisoners at Macquarie. But … with his profile, they’d all be chanting … ‘you’re a f..king dog, you’re going to be killed’. That’s not unusual for a bloke with his profile.

“Prisoners have access to televisions, computers and news­papers. And they would have followed this case adroitly. So when he gets into custody, you’ll have a group of prisoners who simply want to threaten him. I’ve confirmed that from other sources.”

Mater
October 8, 2022 8:58 pm

That’s a lot, custard. Did you check out sky muster?

– Two satellites, more customers, more congestion, slower speeds, more latency.
– Expensive for dubious speeds and severe download/upload limits.
– Still under the control of NBN.

The beauty of Starlink is the download and uploads are unlimited, and bloody fast. Lots of satellites to share the load. Worth the few extra dollars per month, especially if you are a family. The equation may change for an individual, depending upon your needs.

Look VERY carefully at the restrictions and limitations around Sky Muster.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 8, 2022 9:00 pm

m0nty-fa

As for “be careful what you wish for”… I wish for imperialism to be fought, not enabled. If whatever comes after Putin is worse, they must be fought too. Putin started this war, not the West. He is extreme enough now that he must be opposed.

When are you heading off to Ukraine to volunteer for the anti-imperialist war? We might be able to crowd-fund a one way economy class ticket.

Or do you remain simply a front bar urger/Chickenhawk?

When you finish there, you will be ready to join the fight against Chinese inperialism.

Razey
Razey
October 8, 2022 9:00 pm

rickwsays:
October 8, 2022 at 8:54 pm
But, $800 for a 7 shot B220 vs $2,400 for the Akkar. B220 best ‘bang’ for buck probably.

B220 is best bang for buck. Think B220 when you read previous comment!

BTH I think the B230 could be better. Quick change over mags 😉

bespoke
bespoke
October 8, 2022 9:00 pm

Cheer Mater

Rabz
October 8, 2022 9:01 pm

If any Cat has the gall to claim that western political personages are no longer capable of delivering rousing and soaring oratory, then get some of this up ya – regret it, you will not. Unhear it – fuggeddabbouuddittt … 😕

When too much soaring oratory, is barely enough … 🙂

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