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bespoke
bespoke
October 9, 2022 9:06 am

New PayPal Policy Permits Company to Fine Users $2,500 for ‘Misinformation’

Actual title

PayPal Pulls Back, Says It Won’t Fine Customers $2,500 for ‘Misinformation’ after Backlash

Top five reasons I distrust the MSN is click baiting.

Indolent
Indolent
October 9, 2022 9:12 am

PayPal Pulls Back, Says It Won’t Fine Customers $2,500 for ‘Misinformation’ after Backlash

That’s the title now

This was the title was I posted it. I still have the link open.

New PayPal Policy Permits Company to Fine Users $2,500 for ‘Misinformation’

Let me just say, they would if they could.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 9, 2022 9:18 am

espokesays:
October 9, 2022 at 9:06 am
New PayPal Policy Permits Company to Fine Users $2,500 for ‘Misinformation’

Actual title

PayPal Pulls Back, Says It Won’t Fine Customers $2,500 for ‘Misinformation’ after Backlash

Top five reasons I distrust the MSN is click baiting.

Well this is troubling. Very troubling.

PayPal is updating its terms of service come November 3rd, 2022, and they have inserted a clause that should give each and every one of us pause. A lot of pause, actually.

Along with prohibiting using the service to do illegal things–something that should be expected–PayPal now prohibits using the service for anything that appears to them to violate this policy:

A new PayPal policy update appears to authorize the company to pull a significant sum of money from the accounts of users who spread “misinformation.”

Effective November 3, the new conditions will be added to the restricted activity section of the PayPal User agreement, the Daily Wire first reported. Changes include prohibitions on “the sending, posting, or publication of any messages, content, or materials” that “promote misinformation.” While the prior policy already forbade “hate,” “intolerance,” and discrimination, the new one now also explicitly applies to specific “protected groups” and “individuals or groups based on protected characteristics.” Identities under this umbrella include race, religion, gender or gender identity, and sexual orientation.

“The promotion of hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory” would also be deemed a violation of the policy and possible grounds for penalty,” according to the soon-to-be-launched acceptable use policy. The financial tech firm’s current rulebook doesn’t cite these activities.

Breaking the rule against misinformation and hate speech “may subject you to damages, including liquidated damages of $2,500.00 U.S. dollars per violation, which may be debited directly from your PayPal account,” the company warns. In a user agreement, account holders accept and attest that the penalty is “presently a reasonable minimum estimate of PayPal’s actual damages” due to the expense the firm incurs by accounting for the violations as well as damage to its reputation.

“Under existing law, PayPal has the ability as a private company to implement this type of viewpoint-discriminatory policy,” Aaron Terr, a senior program officer at the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, told the Daily Wire.

PayPal terms of service

In PayPal’s sole discretion.

PayPal punishments for posting memes? UPDATED: PayPal reverses course!

and

PayPal says its language on fining users for misinformation was ‘never intended’ to be inserted in its policy

as the Comments say

– How many lawyers did this have to go through before it was made public?

– Somehow I doubt this was inserted by accident. It had to go through multiple layers of management and numerous lawyers before being published. It’s that these people live in woke progressive echo chambers so they didn’t expect the pushback.

bespoke
bespoke
October 9, 2022 9:18 am

All good, Indolent.

bespoke
bespoke
October 9, 2022 9:22 am

PayPal updates it’s terms so many times a year most users stop reading.

Indolent
Indolent
October 9, 2022 9:24 am
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 9, 2022 9:25 am

What credibility Lizzie? It will be interesting to hear how she ended up nude , clothing certainly was not torn off her to commit the foul deed . And all this in the 22 minutes he clocked on and off.

Yes, it is all very suss.
The ole Hairy came to ask me, as a woman experienced in matters physical, in his rather concerned way after much pondering, about how it was possible for a man to get busy with a woman ‘doing it’ with his knee pressed hard on her thigh. The bruise on her thigh, gained she claimed from being raped, somewhat defeated him as he sat pondering the mechanics. They are not impossible, I tell him, but unlikely and probably not coterminous with the actual penetration, should it have ever happened.

If such a bruise actually existed from that night, he thinks after further pondering that it was far more likely gained by her drunken stumbling around the edge of her boss’s desk. So do I. I’ve done that myself. Here at home, I hasten to add. 🙂

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 9, 2022 9:28 am

I see the AWM is having its mission tweaked – and it is to be transformed into ‘The Australian Whinge Memorial’.

If they are going to incorporate the epistemologically challenged ‘Colonial Wars’ perhaps they could house the exhibits in a wing of the memorial of commensurate substance: they would then be spared the expense of bricks and mortar – just some amateur scrawling by academics who have not studied architecture, but studied the study of architecture – equivalents to the historians underwriting it.

And what is next? A memorial to all the women who suffered at the hands of Da Patriarchy? What about all the trannies forced to wear clothes appropriate to their physical sex, rather than the fleeting chimerical genders that shift and change like the “What’s hot and what’s not” column in a teenybopper magazine.

But here is the point. As set up and in practice (up till now) the AWM was an institution of reverence and national pride tinged with melancholy.

They are in the process of turning it into a testament to shame, a monument to guilt, and an accusing finger – middle finger at that – pointed at everyone not registered as a victim.

And the dead soldiers? Their sacrifice is now to be qualified by their having been bad, been the oppressors, the racists, the this the that and the other. Their heroism transformed into irony: dying for freedom when they themselves are enemies of freedom.

But Brendan has the classic Liberal mindset: If I give in this time then one day I can make a stand. If I let them have their way this time I can insist on my way later. He too will fight for freedom – but never today. Always later. Today is always about strategic retreat.

There is the final irony. A memorial to courage, honour, and sacrifice overseen by the timid, the servile, and the self-regarding.

Makka
Makka
October 9, 2022 9:32 am

No brainer. First OPEC floor price, now this.;

https://www.ft.com/content/50e8691a-7ce4-413f-b1ea-22d37885b28b

The world’s biggest reinsurer Munich Re has cut back its coverage of oil and gas projects, as activists step up pressure on the industry to do more to tackle climate change.

The German reinsurance group said on Thursday that from April next year, it would no longer invest in or insure the planning, financing, construction or operation of new oil and gasfields, new oil-fired power plants or developments in “midstream” oil infrastructure like storage and transport.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 9:39 am

A headline in The Oz infers that Biden’s family scandals are ok because other Presidents also had family scandals.

Harding was accused of Negro Ancestry, had a daughter with Nan Britton from a liaison in a K Street broom closet and his doctors never agreed on cause of death, though Mrs Harding was a suspect.

Carter, well his brother was an alcoholic and his mother was likely a lezzo, but that hardly qualifies in 2022.

LBJ, well, now you’re talking.
His mother had a nervous breakdown and refused to do housework, his pappy was bankrupt, his sister Josefa Johnson was a nymphomaniac [to put it tactfully] and was likely murdered on his direct orders, her boyfriend John Kinser, tried to blackmail Johnson and got shot thru the head, a Capital Murder in Texas in 1952, the killer got 5 years probation, his brother was Alcoholic and Gay [BIRM}, Johnson sired a secret son who died of AIDS in 1989 … to be continued

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 9, 2022 9:39 am

PayPal Reverses Course, Says Company Will Not Seize Money From People For Promoting ‘Misinformation’

PayPal on Oct. 8 said it was not implementing a new policy that would have enabled the company to seize money from users who allegedly promote “misinformation” or “hate.”

“An AUP notice recently went out in error that included incorrect information. PayPal is not fining people for misinformation and this language was never intended to be inserted in our policy,” a PayPal spokesperson told The Epoch Times in an email.

“Our teams are working to correct our policy pages. We’re sorry for the confusion this has caused,” the spokesperson added.

The company in September announced that it was amending its acceptable use policy, or AUP.

The policy, due to take effect in November, said that users may not use PayPal to for the “sending, posting, or publication of any messages, content, or materials that, in PayPal’s sole discretion, (a) are harmful, obscene, harassing, or objectionable, (b) depict or appear to depict nudity, sexual or other intimate activities,?(c) depict or promote illegal drug use, (d)?depict or promote?violence, criminal activity, cruelty,?or self-harm?(e) depict,?promote, or incite hatred or discrimination of protected groups or of individuals or groups based on protected characteristics (e.g. race, religion, gender or gender identity, sexual orientation, etc.) (f)?present a risk to user safety or wellbeing, (g) are fraudulent, promote misinformation, or are unlawful, (h) infringe the privacy, intellectual property rights, or other proprietary rights of any party, or (i)?are otherwise unfit for publication.”

For each violation, PayPal says users are subject to repercussions. Those include “liquated damages” of $2,500 per violation. The money will be taken directly from a person’s PayPal account.

Users were directed to PayPal’s user agreement, which states in part that PayPal can take a number of actions if users participate in restricted activities, such as holding their money in balance indefinitely. It also says that “you will be liable to PayPal for the amount of PayPal’s damages caused by your violation of the Acceptable Use Policy” at the amount of $2,500 per violation.

That money will cover internal administrative costs for PayPal to monitor and track violations and damage to PayPal’s brand, among other costs, according to the agreement.

Scores of people noticed the pending update in recent days and many announced on social media they would be closing their accounts.

“Seriously, close your PayPal account immediately if they don’t reverse this today,” Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert, said.

Read more here…

Yep – closing my PayPal account – do not believe PayPal’s explanation

Cassie of Sydney
October 9, 2022 9:40 am

“The ole Hairy came to ask me, as a woman experienced in matters physical, in his rather concerned way after much pondering, about how it was possible for a man to get busy with a woman ‘doing it’ with his knee pressed hard on her thigh. The bruise on her thigh, gained she claimed from being raped, somewhat defeated him as he sat pondering the mechanics. They are not impossible, I tell him, but unlikely and probably not coterminous with the actual penetration, should it have ever happened.

If such a bruise actually existed from that night, he thinks after further pondering that it was far more likely gained by her drunken stumbling around the edge of her boss’s desk. So do I. I’ve done that myself. Here at home, I hasten to add. ?”

Thanks Lizzie, my sister, mother and I had a similar conversation yesterday. And being three women, we also discussed some other stuff which I won’t elaborate on here because men here don’t like reading such intimate squeamish stuff however I’ll just say that given her intoxicated state, any after effects of “penetration” or “attempted penetration” would have been clearly felt when she woke up and became conscious, so I’m curious as to why she didn’t go to the police and very curious as to why she didn’t go to a doctor.

Lizzie good to see ya too!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 9, 2022 9:42 am

Hey Dick Head and a Suitable Case For Treatment. There will never be a Treaty as there was no one here to have a Treaty with. Not only that but there was no Australian Federal Guv’ment at the time. Are you THICK or some’fink. Yeas of course you are. An IQ of Net Zero to boot as well.

I hate to tell you this, J.R., but a treaty has been on the agenda since the days of the Black Power movement, and the Tent Embassy of the mid 1970’s – compensation payable at the rate of 7% of Australian GDP for the first ten years, 5% for the next ten years and 2.5% of GDP “in perpetuity”, plus providing permanently all social, political educational benefits provided to other Australians to the Aboriginal people, including welfare, pensions and health benfits, plus plus plus……Oh, and 3% of all revenue from mineral and natural resources to be paid to the new Aboriginal Nation..

shatterzzz
October 9, 2022 9:46 am

I use Paypal occasionally to avoid giving credit card details on purchases but I have not and will not have a cent of my money under their control.

I use PayPal to pay the gas & electricity bills when. on reading some fine print, I realised my provider, AGL, has a surcharge on direct credit card payments but not on PP payment .. even tho I’m use the same credit card via PP ..

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 9, 2022 9:47 am

I use Paypal occasionally to avoid giving credit card details on purchases but I have not and will not have a cent of my money under their control.

I keep a low value credit card with another bank specifically for online purchases.

It came in handy in the Cook Islands when both of our linked platinum credit cards were rejected by our bank. Only reinstated after further exasperated hours were spent waiting to talk again to them by phone after their first corrective measures failed. No proper reason was offered for these rejections. They were nicely apologetic though for insisting at first he was making a mistake putting in his PIN (he was not), because Hairy threatened to change banks over it until they put him onto a proper boffin to discuss their cybersecurity in technical terms – which they did in the end and it was solved to his satisfaction. The cards once more started to work. Huzzah!

Johnny Rotten
October 9, 2022 9:49 am

A Hindu, a Rabbi, and a Jehovah’s Witness are lost.

They wander across a farmstead and ask to spend the night.

“I only have room for two, so one of you will have to stay in the barn” says the Farm Owner. The Hindu immediately volunteers, insisting it’s no problem. However, a few minutes later, he knocks on the front door.

“I’m sorry, but there is a cow in the barn, and they are sacred to me”.

“No problem” says the Rabbi, and he goes to the barn. Again though, he returns and knocks. “There is also a pig in there, and that is against our teachings”.

“I will go then, friends” says the Jehovah’s Witness, and he proceeds to the barn. A few moments later, there is a knock at the door. It’s the cow and the pig.

More JR Jokes (and not from Benny Hill or Dave Allen) just to upset Stencho Pantyhose and JC the Pompous Windbag…………………..

rosie
rosie
October 9, 2022 9:51 am

Was published in our parish notice this week, and placed on the Archbishop’s facebook page.
Also got covered in the homily by the PP who said “Ideology is acceptable, but theology is not” while reminding us that the gospel has always been under threat.


“Let me be crystal clear.

Unborn children, the most vulnerable among us because they have no voice of their own, have only ourselves to make the plea for their just protection.

Let me be equally clear, faithful and fruitful marital covenants, which men and women freely enter into, also deserve our committed support and encouragement.

I hold these beliefs, and always have, and so do many others, because they speak to the good of our humanity.

To hold these beliefs does not mean I am excused from pursuing the good of people who hold differing beliefs, or who struggle to live by such beliefs. Everybody matters, and the good of everybody matters. Unborn children and expectant mothers both matter. My efforts to ensure this are the measure of my commitment to the common good of all.

What is this common good? It is the pursuit of the good of everyone, while also pursuing the good of each individually. It is where justice and mercy meet, so that all may live and flourish.

There has been little evidence of the common good being pursued by the leadership of the Essendon Football Club over the last couple of days. It has been a polarising and divisive time, that has abandoned any genuine respect for honouring diversity.

Helpful diversity draws people together. Harmful diversity pushes people apart.

The Premier was right in saying that the Essendon affair is much bigger than the forced resignation of the Club’s new CEO because of the beliefs he holds. And indeed, as he rightly noted, our language about other people matters.

However, the Premier’s own words about his beliefs and how they play out for the sake of others, have tended toward the harmful, because they have sought to uphold the good of one by undermining the good of another.

Referring to Andrew Thorburn’s church and the Bombers’ decision to sack its new CEO, the Premier used words like “intolerant”, “bigotry”, “absolutely appalling”, and “no sympathy”. Such language pitches some members of the community against others and contributes to an unhelpful spirit of division. It leaves ordinary people of faith questioning if they can publicly hold their committed beliefs, or even to be able to exercise leadership and service in the community.

The Premier stated, “Aren’t we all God’s children?” The answer is yes, absolutely and irreducibly, every person is a child of God. But for a leader of Government to distinguish between particular “children of God” stirs up a spirit of divisiveness between people instead of one of inclusion. In this election year there is an onus of responsibility for all political leaders to appeal to their better judgment.

We cannot claim to be inclusive if we stir up polarisation between sectors of the community, because in our Nation and, I hope, our State, every person, and every community, matters.

If the Essendon situation, and some broader reactions to it, is a litmus test of the place and value of people of faith in Victorian society, then we are in big trouble.”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 9, 2022 9:52 am

so I’m curious as to why she didn’t go to the police and very curious as to why she didn’t go to a doctor.

I’m still curious as to why she didn’t ask the (lady) security guard, who discovered her, for help.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 9, 2022 9:56 am

Sorry dover I inadvertently reported the Week in Pictures – don’t waste your time

min
min
October 9, 2022 9:56 am

Cassie of Sydney I have been discussing this with my friends the likelihood of being lubricated other than by alcohol .

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 9, 2022 9:58 am

Calli: If you are a fan of Charles Rennie Mackintosh, get yourself to the Kelvingrove art gallery and museum.

It’s brilliant and there’s always a Mackintosh feature display.

Cassie of Sydney
October 9, 2022 10:02 am

“Cassie of Sydney I have been discussing this with my friends the likelihood of being lubricated other than by alcohol .”

Yep.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 9, 2022 10:02 am

Surveillance State USA… Biden quietly unleashes spymasters in dramatic Executive Order…
October 7, 2022 ( ago)

Orwell would be proud. Deliberately buried in the Friday evening news cycle, Biden released an Executive Order with dramatic implications for how signals intelligence is collected on individuals throughout the world.

Specifically, Biden’s directive repeals restrictions on the use of signals intelligence collection (read: spying on you) implemented since the Obama Administration

So what was so problematic about the Presidential Policy Directive 28 that Biden Admin had to repeal?

We encourage you to read the entire directive, but the following passage strikes us as interesting in light of the fact that Biden just repealed it:

The collection of signals intelligence shall be authorized by statute or Executive Order, proclamation, or other Presidential directive, and undertaken in accordance with the Constitution and applicable statutes, Executive Orders, proclamations, and Presidential directives.

(b) Privacy and civil liberties shall be integral considerations in the planning of U.S. signals intelligence activities. The United States shall not collect signals intelligence for the purpose of suppressing or burdening criticism or dissent, or for disadvantaging persons based on their ethnicity, race, gender, sexual orientation, or religion. Signals intelligence shall be collected exclusively where there is a foreign intelligence or counterintelligence purpose to support national and departmental missions and not for any other purposes.

(c) The collection of foreign private commercial information or trade secrets is authorized only to protect the national security of the United States or its partners and allies. It is not an authorized foreign intelligence or counterintelligence purpose to collect such information to afford a competitive advantage[4] to U.S. companies and U.S. business sectors commercially.

(d) Signals intelligence activities shall be as tailored as feasible. In determining whether to collect signals intelligence, the United States shall consider the availability of other information, including from diplomatic and public sources. Such appropriate and feasible alternatives to signals intelligence should be prioritized.[Obama White House Archives]

What could the Biden Administration be gearing up for? Why would they want to relax restrictions on intelligence collecting? Are they planning escalation in Ukraine, escalation in their Domestic War on American Patriots, or both?

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 10:02 am

The ole Hairy came to ask me, as a woman experienced in matters physical, in his rather concerned way after much pondering, about how it was possible for a man to get busy with a woman ‘doing it’ with his knee pressed hard on her thigh.

Hairy sounds like a nice guy, I hope he’s keeping well.

It is a reasonable concern, but easily explained.
When The Creator made man and woman, he made them so congress [beast with 2 humps] was mechanically feasible.
This required the male to have a considerably shorter thighbone than the female.
You will note that Ms Higgins is quite a tall woman.

The thigh is the upper leg [inside, outside, underside, topside],
not just the quadriceps.
So, sudden pressure from a knee on the hamstring area would be excruciatingly painful enough to rouse a drunk person from semiconsciousness and would also indicate the knee person was attacking the back door.
Which would cause ongoing trauma and explain why the victim was reluctant to go straight to the Cops.
Not saying that happened, of course, but since everybody else is tossing in their 2 cents worth …

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 9, 2022 10:03 am

Rivian Recalls Nearly All Vehicles Due To ‘Loss Of Steering’ Threat

Electric vehicle maker Rivian Automotive is recalling nearly all of its vehicles delivered to customers for a structural defect that could cause drivers to lose steering control.

Bloomberg said Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe sent a letter to customers about the recall. He explained a fastener “may not have been sufficiently torqued” and, in “rare circumstances,” could loosen fully.

WSJ explained more about the “fastener connecting the upper control arm and steering knuckle may have been improperly installed … and could lead to a loss of steering control.”

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
October 9, 2022 10:03 am

What credibility Lizzie? It will be interesting to hear how she ended up nude , clothing certainly was not torn off her to commit the foul deed . And all this in the 22 minutes he clocked on and off.

Like you min, I am looking forward to Mr L’s description of what he remembers about the 22 minutes. It does seem to have escaped everybody that this time limit is firm/logged/recorded. Walking from front security up to the Senate offices and return would eat up some more of those minutes.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 10:07 am

I’m still curious as to why she didn’t ask the (lady) security guard, who discovered her, for help.
Because she was asleep.
Some in security wanted to call an ambulance, there were several conferences that morning over what to do, and in the end they did nothing.
This ground was covered 18 months ago, so why are you trolling the conversation?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 9, 2022 10:08 am

<a href="The Russkies have always been slow with sophisticated high-tech ideas so they’re busy playing catch-up as the Yanks try out all their new toys. Warfare will be re-shaped after this.

Space Armageddon: Why the Pentagon fears Russia and China’s star wars weaponry

Russia and China are both in a race to catch the US with their space warfare capabilities

The Russians believe that taking away what they perceive as the technological “crutch,” could paralyze U.S. forces psychologically and disrupt the “kill chain,” preventing our weapons from reaching their targets. Chinese strategists call these disruptive technologies an “Assassin’s Mace,” a concept that conveys an inferior military countering superior one by leveling a playing field with much less expensive options. Remember when insurgents in Afghanistan destroyed expensive U.S. military hardware with homemade IEDs? At approximately $1.7 billion a pop, American space birds present attractive sitting ducks. Even the former STRATCOM commander Gen. John Hyten called U.S. space birds “big, fat, juicy targets.”

Russia and China are developing and fielding a broad range of anti-satellite (ASAT) weapons. These include jammers, lasers, and orbital interceptors that cozy up to an adversary’s satellites to inspect or attack them. The advantage of less destructive options such as jamming and electronic warfare is that they can be used at the inception of a conflict to destabilize the opponent’s society and create chaos. Imagine not being able to get cash out of an ATM, fill up your car with gas or being stuck in traffic jam on the way to an emergency room.

The most destructive ASAT is a ground-based direct-ascent mobile missile, such as Russia’s PL-19 Nudol, which is capable of permanently destroying spacecraft in low-earth orbit. Russia tested Nudol in November 2021, against a live target, a Russian satellite COSMOS 1408, destroying it and creating 1,500 pieces of trackable orbital debris. Last year, China performed a dual test of a hypersonic weapon and a fractional orbital bombardment, the capability that the head of U.S. Strategic Command described as “never before seen in the world.” “>The Russkies have always been slow with sophisticated high-tech ideas so they’re busy playing catch-up as the Yanks try out all their new toys. Warfare will be re-shaped after this.

Space Armageddon: Why the Pentagon fears Russia and China’s star wars weaponry

Russia and China are both in a race to catch the US with their space warfare capabilities

The Russians believe that taking away what they perceive as the technological “crutch,” could paralyze U.S. forces psychologically and disrupt the “kill chain,” preventing our weapons from reaching their targets. Chinese strategists call these disruptive technologies an “Assassin’s Mace,” a concept that conveys an inferior military countering superior one by leveling a playing field with much less expensive options. Remember when insurgents in Afghanistan destroyed expensive U.S. military hardware with homemade IEDs? At approximately $1.7 billion a pop, American space birds present attractive sitting ducks. Even the former STRATCOM commander Gen. John Hyten called U.S. space birds “big, fat, juicy targets.”

Russia and China are developing and fielding a broad range of anti-satellite (ASAT) weapons. These include jammers, lasers, and orbital interceptors that cozy up to an adversary’s satellites to inspect or attack them. The advantage of less destructive options such as jamming and electronic warfare is that they can be used at the inception of a conflict to destabilize the opponent’s society and create chaos. Imagine not being able to get cash out of an ATM, fill up your car with gas or being stuck in traffic jam on the way to an emergency room.

The most destructive ASAT is a ground-based direct-ascent mobile missile, such as Russia’s PL-19 Nudol, which is capable of permanently destroying spacecraft in low-earth orbit. Russia tested Nudol in November 2021, against a live target, a Russian satellite COSMOS 1408, destroying it and creating 1,500 pieces of trackable orbital debris. Last year, China performed a dual test of a hypersonic weapon and a fractional orbital bombardment, the capability that the head of U.S. Strategic Command described as “never before seen in the world.”

Makka
Makka
October 9, 2022 10:09 am

What could the Biden Administration be gearing up for? Why would they want to relax restrictions on intelligence collecting? Are they planning escalation in Ukraine, escalation in their Domestic War on American Patriots, or both?

I feel very sure that the brand new armed 87,000 IRS agents will form a good part of the answer to this question. And, it will all be “legal”.

This is the evil of the left on full display.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 9, 2022 10:11 am

On the jamming of starlink, with over 2300 satellites in orbit it would be very difficult to jam. Musk is launching new satellites all the time to start a world wide mobile phone network in 2023.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 10:13 am

I’d be interested in an Inquiry into the entire affair.
Question 1. for Reynolds:
Why did you sack high flyer Bruce Lehrmann on March 22, 2019.
Question 2. Has anyone else ever been sacked for requesting entry after hours without their formal I.D.?
Question 3. Were any of the security guards sacked for letting them in without I.D.?
Question 4. If not, why not?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 9, 2022 10:14 am

Because she was asleep.

The security guard told “Four Corners” that Higgins was awake, and showing no signs of distress.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 9, 2022 10:14 am

The “nitrogen war” in Netherlands, an anticipation of times to come

Farmers in the Netherlands are revolting over the government’s plan to drastically reduce nitrogen emissions by 2030 and is pointing to agriculture and farmers as the worst offenders. But farmers have taken to the streets, blocking roads, and distribution centers, and there has been some serious incidents, including police opening fire on protestors,

It all looks as the “nitrogen war” in the Netherlands is an anticipation of the conflict between environment awareness organizations and agriculture, industry over production systems and its consequences.

“I really understand their anger,” Marcel Crok, a Dutch science writer and co-founder of the Climate Intelligence Foundation, said in an interview. “The farmers are also angry because they say, ‘we are the only sector who get all the blame.’ What about industry? What about the traffic? Maybe we should just ban all the cars in the Netherlands because they also emit nitrogen.”

“This plan as announced in practice means that, in certain areas, farmers have to reduce their nitrogen emissions by 70%,” he continued. “That means they simply have to quit.”

The proposal to sharply cut nitrogen emissions is tied to a 2019 Dutch court decision forcing the nation’s government to take more aggressive measures to curb nitrogen emissions. The Netherlands, though, has heavily regulated agriculture emissions since the 1990s and farmers have largely complied with such rules, Crok said.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 9, 2022 10:14 am

Peter O’Brien at Quadrant and in follow up emails to signers has asked that everyone who is opposed to this stealth take-over of the Australian War Memorial by ‘woke’ elements pass on his petition URL to as many people and blogs as possible to get the numbers of objections up to levels where notice might be taken.

Link is here.

duncanm
duncanm
October 9, 2022 10:14 am

Can we have a separate J Rotten joke thread?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 9, 2022 10:15 am

Perhaps members of the military, current and ex, would be particularly interested in signing in order to protect the sacred memory of their comrades at arms.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 9, 2022 10:16 am

Makka

I feel very sure that the brand new armed 87,000 IRS agents will form a good part of the answer to this question. And, it will all be “legal”.

This is the evil of the left on full display.

Just as everything the Nazis did was (at least technically) “legal”. The fascist left never changes its spots.

Makka
Makka
October 9, 2022 10:16 am

What could the Biden Administration be gearing up for? Why would they want to relax restrictions on intelligence collecting?

Also let’s not forget Five Eyes. The US spies on everyone. With the leftist fascists in both the WH and Canbra these days we can be absolutely certain that intel identifying anti-leftist sentiments here will be passed on for suitable attentions.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 10:18 am

Question 5. for Reynolds:
Why did you order the entire Ministerial Office [including the couch in question] to be steam cleaned on Monday 21 March 2019?
I’d like to hear the miserable bitch answer that one.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 9, 2022 10:19 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
October 9, 2022 at 10:14 am
Because she was asleep.

The security guard told “Four Corners” that Higgins was awake, and showing no signs of distress.

Zulu! Richard Cranium is in the process of constructing a “narrative” (all leftists need to have a “narrative”, so they don’t lose track of their lies). Please don’t interrupt him with reality.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 10:20 am

Can we have a separate J Rotten joke thread?
Send Rotten to the Duelling Thread.

Johnny Rotten
October 9, 2022 10:21 am

May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house.

– George Carlin

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 10:24 am

The security guard told “Four Corners” that Higgins was awake, and showing no signs of distress.

Uh huh?
So, Four Corners is shit when it’s reporting on Tudgie and Porter,
but beyond reproach when reporting on a genuine scandal in Defence?

Go play in the traffic and don’t come back until I call for you.

Johnny Rotten
October 9, 2022 10:24 am

t seems a farm boy accidentally overturned his wagon-load of hay.

The farmer who lived nearby heard the noise. “Hey, Will!” the farmer yelled. “Forget your troubles. Come in and have a bite with us. Then I’ll help you get the wagon up”. “That’s mighty nice of you” Will answered. “But I don’t think my dad would like me to”.

“Aw, come on”. the farmer insisted. “Well okay” the boy finally agreed, and added “But dad won’t like it”.

After a hearty dinner, Will thanked his host. “I feel a lot better now, but I know my dad is going to be real upset”. “Don’t be foolish!” the neighbour said with a smile. “By the way, where is your old man?”

Will replied “Under the wagon”.

Hey Stencho Pantyhose and JC the Pompous Windbag put that one in your back passage……………….

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 9, 2022 10:25 am

The world’s biggest reinsurer Munich Re has cut back its coverage of oil and gas projects, as activists step up pressure on the industry to do more to tackle climate change.

This is well organised activism that has been going on for years – with some success.

In the usual way, someone will stand up where there is a quid to be made.

In the energy market, Marsh McLennan is giving a big Fuck You to activists (and woke MM staff) and picking up business being dropped by general insurers.

Behind them, syndicates giving zero fucks about Gaia, or vewwy, vewwy angry protesters turning up at their dachas, palaces, private islands, and lightly fortified offices.

MatrixTransform
October 9, 2022 10:27 am

(all leftists need to have a “narrative”, so they don’t lose track of their lies)

wafting bong-smoke
our Ed will go off-trail any minute now
prolly looking for blue meanies

rosie
rosie
October 9, 2022 10:27 am

Yes, people’s who’s offices have been vomited in by random uninvited visitors should leave them as is, just in case down the track someone alleges something.
The accuser could have kept her far more pertinent dress and underwear as ‘evidence’ but chose not to.

Delta A
Delta A
October 9, 2022 10:30 am

Bar Beach Swimmersays:
October 8, 2022 at 9:38 pm

Sincere condolences, BBS. What a dreadful shock for you and your family.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 9, 2022 10:32 am

It does seem to have escaped everybody that this time limit is firm/logged/recorded.

I have always had a suspicion that they went there in the hope of picking up an out-of-hours drink as well as his keys or papers or whatever his excuse was. Was any alcohol consumed there during that time, or perhaps none was available? That would explain his quick departure as he realised she was hopelessly drunk and that this was placing him in a compromising situation that he was best out of and that she could handle better alone when she sobered up. Maybe she was taking some of her clothes off in drunken flamboyance? Or was already calling him a rapist if he’d tried to kiss her. Who can tell when two people with a history together are drunk and know they are in trouble?

Sensibly, he should have called security at that time and asked for assistance to get her into a cab home as she had ‘a stomach upset’. It is surprising that security did not ask where she was when he checked out.

Never forget that the ridiculous accusations against Pell were shown to be impossible due to timing, as well as by other factors.

It should be a case of case dismissed.

rosie
rosie
October 9, 2022 10:33 am

Yes I always notify the bank I’m travelling, much better than trying to ring in the middle of the night from a hotel lobby to get the hold on your card removed.
Happened to me a couple of times in the US, I think they blamed American Express for that in the end.
Oh and also important to remember in Spain only put in the first four digits of your pin number or the transaction will not go through.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 9, 2022 10:34 am

A Voice to Parliament would supercharge wasteful public spending on indigenous affairs, according to a leading Canadian scholar of Canada’s experience with special, race-based deliberative bodies set up to advise government.

Tom Flanagan, a senior fellow at the free-market Fraser Institute in Vancouver, one of Canada’s largest think thanks, warned Australia to expect a significant increase in spending following creation of a Voice to Parliament, which would resemble, he said, Canada’s Assembly of First Nations.

“I guarantee you, you’ll spend more if you set that up,” he told The Australian in an interview.

“People in Australia may dream of it being a quiet, well-informed deliberative body of people, but it will become a lobby group making demands,” he added, pointing to Canada’s experience.

The Assembly of First Nations, which is largely funded by Canadian government grants, emerged in 1982, to represent the largest of the three Indian groups (First Nations people, Métis and Inuit) recognised in the Canadian constitution.

Canadian governments consult with the body, which is not enshrined in the Canadian constitution, on all legislation and rules that affect the country’s indigenous population of 1.8 million people, or about 5 per cent of the total in 2021 (around double the share of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders in Australia’s population)

“Like all lobby groups it will become an insatiable source of demand for money, changes in legislation, and pursue all these things with a single-minded intensity,” he suggested, noting how indigenous spending in Canada had “exploded”.

Canadian government spending on indigenous affairs jumped from $C11.5 billion in 2016, the last year of the conservative Harper government (which Dr Flanagan advised), to about $C25 billion ($28.5 billion) in 2022 – an increase in 105 per cent in six years after adjusting for inflation – according to the Fraser Institute.

“We already spend more on indigenous affairs than on Canadian defence forces,” added Dr Flanagan, who is also an emeritus professor of political science at the University of Calgary.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who has said “there is no more important relationship to me and to Canada than the one with indigenous peoples”, has plans to increase federal indigenous spending from 6.1 per cent in 2020 to 7.7 per cent of all federal spending by 2027.

The Albanese government has promised a referendum on a Voice to Parliament, an idea that emerged in 2017 from the Uluru Statement, sometime next year, an idea polls suggest has the support of most voters, even if the specifics of the advisory body remain unknown.

The number of Canadians identifying as indigenous grew by 9.4 per cent between 2016 and 2021, according to Statistics Canada, around double the rate of the non-indigenous population.

“Through all these decades of steadily increasing spending, the gap in living standards between first nations people on reserves and other Canadians, have remained almost exactly the same,” Dr Flanagan said.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 9, 2022 10:41 am

Britnah passed out dead drunk after vomiting. Recall, about zero.

Lehrmann wasn’t that drunk and his testimony will be that of a conscious individual.

He’ll probably say that he helped her to the couch after she threw up and at that stage realised she’d passed out and he couldn’t physically get her to leave the office without causing a huge issue.

He’s far from a champion as he was responsible for taking her there and knew her state but still left her to face an embarrassing and career destroying morning.

Britnah had a good reason to get him in trouble but the rope tale was the worst choice. She could have simply claimed he took there without showing concern or care for her welfare. That would be good advice but those who advised her aren’t good.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 9, 2022 10:42 am

What is the best way to notify the bank of your international travel movements?
I’ve heard that you should do it and presumably there’s a way to do so online.
We did mention our upcoming travels to our branch manager in conversation about other matters, but that didn’t seem to have been recorded anywhere.
It’s sad that these days so few places take Amex, a card which we’ve had forever as a back up.
Old Luddite that I am, I always take a bundle of cash which I exchange as needed.
Hairy laughs at me, but he still uses it. Especially for tips in the US.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 9, 2022 10:43 am

There no damage on underside of bridge. This confirms that truck exploded above. Driver most likely did not know that he was driving a bomb.

Which could mean that the Ukes are now desperate or that the truck was carrying something dangerous (munitions?) that went off when they should not.

sfw
sfw
October 9, 2022 10:44 am

Dunno if this has been posted before, popped up in my youtube feed while I’m waiting for Bafurst to start. Mark McGowan and his aboriginal interpreter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLrz8Ft-GNI

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 9, 2022 10:45 am

Mr. Rotten, can we please have some sexist farmer’s daughter jokes?

Jorge
Jorge
October 9, 2022 10:49 am

indicates that Kiev has no problem undertaking terroristic operations

Kiev ? Americans, Specials or CIA.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 9, 2022 10:50 am

Why did you order the entire Ministerial Office [including the couch in question] to be steam cleaned on Monday 21 March 2019?
I’d like to hear the miserable bitch answer that one.

You’d think it might be some lame excuse to do with the Minister not wanting to share her office with congealing spew.

No doubt Drumgold KC will flog Reynolds unmercifully about not preserving a potential crime scene for two years.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 9, 2022 10:50 am

Okay, is one of you really Kim Dotcom in disguise?

Kim Dotcom @KimDotcom · 6h

The Art of War:
After shelling your own nuclear power plant, blow up your own gas pipeline and then to ensure victory blow up your own bridge to cut your own supply line.
— Sun Tzu

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 9, 2022 10:52 am

SpaceX just launched a couple of comsats for external customer.

https://www.spacex.com/launches/intelsatg33g34/

Stop the replay at 9:00 to 9:20 in the flight timeline.

Cool pic. Booster on barge in twilight, lit up by floodlight. Sun has gone down in the background but the booster contrail is lit up by the Sun and shows the “frozen lightning” effect noted by the folks at Peenemunde long ago and the Sun is lighting up the gases from the entry burn showing above a small cloud.
Spaceflight does have its legends and romance – the Russian R-7 booster which lives on today, first showed the four first stage booster separating from the core. It is called the “Korolev Cross” which is a nice way to remember the Chief Designer.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 9, 2022 10:53 am

ACME explosives rarely hit the right target. beep beep

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 9, 2022 10:54 am

On the jamming of starlink, with over 2300 satellites in orbit it would be very difficult to jam. Musk is launching new satellites all the time to start a world wide mobile phone network in 2023.

Yep, the article suggested the Ruskies were interfering with the local ground receiver units, not the satellite network itself.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 10:54 am

Lehrmann wasn’t that drunk and his testimony will be that of a conscious individual.

He’ll probably say that he helped her to the couch after she threw up and at that stage realised she’d passed out and he couldn’t physically get her to leave the office without causing a huge issue.

He won’t say that, since Ms Higgins woke and vomited hours after Lehrmann called a Uber and headed off.

Zipster
Zipster
October 9, 2022 10:56 am

NYC judge rules polyamorous unions entitled to same legal protections as 2-person relationships

Your cocker spaniel is in serious danger

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
October 9, 2022 10:56 am

Ironies don’t get better than this: Thanks to the renewable energy transition, Europe can’t afford to make renewable energy.

When will the message get through that renewable energy is not sustainable?

European photovoltaic plants and battery cell factors are temporarily closing or quitting altogether because of obscenely high electricity prices. When the plants were built they expected to pay €50/MWh, but now they are €300 – 400/MWh. And the situation may last another couple of years, so it’s hard to see how these manufacturers can avoid leaving permanently.

So much for all the solar jobs. Europeans are being reduced to being installers while the production of panels shifts to coal fired China because electricity is so much cheaper. Most of the wind turbine industry has already moved to China

https://joannenova.com.au/2022/10/netzero-destroys-netzero-europe-cant-manufacture-solar-panels-due-to-high-energy-prices/

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 9, 2022 10:59 am

Lizzie, Westpac – who we bank with – offer a service on their website once you are logged in, to notify of overseas travel. You just fill in the dates and specify the countries.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 11:00 am

Which could mean that the Ukes are now desperate or that the truck was carrying something dangerous (munitions?) that went off when they should not.
Yeah, that’s real likely. [Sarcasm]
Here’s a more likely scenario:
The driver’s family were being held hostage by the Ukes, so he agreed to drive a truck to Crimea for them.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 9, 2022 11:00 am

Like all lobby groups it will become an insatiable source of demand for money, changes in legislation, and pursue all these things with a single-minded intensity,” he suggested, noting how indigenous spending in Canada had “exploded”.

Did anybody seriously expect any other outcome?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 9, 2022 11:01 am

Lode at 9.28, and apropos of the AWM:

And what is next? A memorial to all the women who suffered at the hands of Da Patriarchy? What about all the trannies forced to wear clothes appropriate to their physical sex

This reminded me. About a year ago I was randomly scanning through FB looking for, as is my wont, things that interest me. On one of the pages I occasionally look at, there was an appeal from a serving ADF bloke attempting to drum up support for the issue of a campaign medal where none had previously been struck.

Timor? Nope. Iraq? Nope. Afghanistan? Nope. The others? Nooooope.

This monumental squeezer was actually attempting to have a medal issued for service in…… NSW during the floods. He then went on to describe being mildly uncomfortable for several nights, that it was raining, and also that his experience was deserving of recognition in the manner proposed.

The medal-less plonker got a few supportive comments very early on, which I identified as probably pre-arranged from this bloke’s equally useless comrades. And then, restoring my blood pressure and some of my faith in the current ADF, a pile-on occurred the likes of which I have never, ever seen.

It was Biblical in scale, content and stature. The language used put anything in the Duelling Thread to shame as rank amateurism. I didn’t join in. I didn’t have to. I just watched, as one would gaze from space at the dinosaur-killing asteroid smacking into what is now the Gulf of Mexico.

Such is the craving for undeserved recognition in this day and age. I can only surmise that Private Flood Medal has modified his approach, and that a proposal for a diorama with someone from a blanket counter and Kevin Rudd in it now sits atop a middle-management AWM bloke’s in tray.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 9, 2022 11:06 am

someone from a blanket counter

Goodness me.

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
October 9, 2022 11:06 am

Prohibited items could be –

Ceramic ware, cosmetics, dog collars, erasers, fly swatters, goods bearing an image of an Aus state or territory, incandescent lamps, novelty money boxes, pencils or paintbrushes, pornography and objectionable material, tobacco for smoking chewing or as snuff, toys and many more.

So if you’re planning a Jan 26 celebration with flags and little gifts, maybe have a smoke while you’re painting a nice scene, think again ya criminals.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 9, 2022 11:06 am

“Through all these decades of steadily increasing spending, the gap in living standards between first nations people on reserves and other Canadians, have remained almost exactly the same,” Dr Flanagan said.

Duh.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 11:07 am

The accuser could have kept her far more pertinent dress and underwear as ‘evidence’ but chose not to.
Why?
The underwear had been removed beforehand, so no foreign DNA, and Ms Higgins dressed herself from bags of donated clothes before she finally left Reynolds’s office after 10 am.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 9, 2022 11:08 am

Your cocker spaniel is in serious danger

You can take a shitfaced cocker spaniel to Parliament House, leave it there and let it spew all over a Minister’s office, and it won’t sign a book deal with Peter FitzSimons before having you charged with rape.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 9, 2022 11:09 am

From 10.03am
Walking from front security up to the Senate offices and return would eat up some more of those minutes.

Walk time might be doubled ‘cos he was adrian even though not para like the slapper.

m0nty
m0nty
October 9, 2022 11:09 am

I think it’s safe to conclude that yesterday’s truck bomb attack on Kerch Bridge was a failure and that a lot of the self-congratulation in Ukraine, and the West, premature. The rail bridge is operating again, as is the undamaged road carriage, while the damaged road carriage way should be repaired in the next 3 or more weeks. Consequently, the potential logistics problem this posed to military operations and civilian life in the South will be relatively minor. However, the manner of the attack, the use of a truck bomb that looks to have been planted in the truck without the knowledge of the driver and detonated remotely, indicates that Kiev has no problem undertaking terroristic operations, which provides grounds for Moscow to declare this now a CTO (counter-terrorism operation) with the rules of engagement that entails.

How can it be a terrorist operation when the Kersh bridge was closed to civilians last month? It was an entirely military target.

The truck was coming from Russia, so how did whoever planted the bomb not have the truck driver in on the plot? Also, how get past the explosives check on the Russia side?

It is a terrible failure on the part of the Russians, at many levels.

Razey
Razey
October 9, 2022 11:09 am

Today in Liberalism:

New York Post
@nypost
NYC judge rules polyamorous unions entitled to same legal protections as 2-person relationships

Once you deny that marriage is a relationship between the sexes, having lost sight of the ends of marriage, you will be unable to resist any claim that marriage can involve more than two people, or that it is a relationship between people, and so on. We see the same thing now occurring to gender.

This was always going to happen when the Sheep voted to allow filthy poofters to ‘marry’.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 9, 2022 11:09 am

Britnah has no idea of timelines Ed, vomits or anything else.
I’m speculating, as are you, we’ve heard nothing of detail from the man himself.
There remains an outside chance that he did take advantage and is a truly repulsive type.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 9, 2022 11:09 am

Please Dover.
Can we have a thread dedicated specifically to “Bruises, Lubrication and Penetration”.
Thanking you in advance.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 9, 2022 11:11 am

When he wants to Ivan doesn’t hang about.
Here it’d take three months just to agree on the wording of the tender documents.
Ask a Soviet engineer to design a pair of shoes and he’ll come up with something that looks like the boxes that the shoes came in; ask him to make something that will massacre Germans, and he turns into Thomas Fucking Edison.
Neal Stephenson.

Razey
Razey
October 9, 2022 11:14 am

Indolentsays:
October 9, 2022 at 8:46 am
Florida Surgeon General: Covid mRNA vaccine found to cause 84% increase in DEATH for men ages 18-39

Because climate change.

Makka
Makka
October 9, 2022 11:16 am

you will be unable to resist any claim that marriage can involve more than two people, or that it is a relationship between people, and so on.

Indeed. And then they will get around to thinking of the children.

rosie
rosie
October 9, 2022 11:16 am

Sure the alleged victim put on donated secondhand underwear (which charities dont accept) and fancy thinking that it would be usual to preserve underwear from an alleged sexual assault even if it were said donated secondhand underwear.
Incidentally
I seem to recall early last year, someone here loudly proclaiming it was a slam dunk prosecution because the entire episode was captured on CCTV.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 9, 2022 11:20 am

Not saying that happened, of course, but since everybody else is tossing in their 2 cents worth …

Ed Case, I don’t think there is any evidence that Ms Higgins suffered a brutal physically-damaging anal rape. She would definitely have seen a doctor and have gone to police sooner had this been the case. Immediate retribution would have been a powerful motive for her in this case. Also, such attacks are difficult for a drunken man to achieve and would certainly take time and require an ability to physically manoeuvre a victim into a suitable position.

That is not the sort of attack that any sane woman would write off to experience.

I do seriously doubt if the truth can ever really be known about this night’s events between two people voluntarily together on a night out, given that wonderful phrase manufactured by Buckingham Palace re the truths of the Duchess of Sussex – that ‘recollections vary’.

I also doubt very much that a non-consensual act of penetrative sexual intercourse took place in the case of Ms Higgins; given the time factor, any such act seems quite unlikely and her behaviour when she was sober and after that, holding no DNA evidence and scrubbing her phone calls, introduces considerable uncertainty into her ‘recollections’.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 9, 2022 11:25 am

I’d say Higgins is your typical ‘advisor’

I used to think advisor meant to advise.
Now I know it means collect an advisor’s pay while
a) doing google research for politicians
b) sending photos of the Minister to the voters
i.e. highly skilled jobs.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
October 9, 2022 11:31 am

I used to think so; not anymore. 34%voted LNP; 32% liars, 22% teals and filth. The majority of the electorate are fucking idiots.

I don’t know what you call voting every 3 years for who gets to control you, but it ain’t democracy.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 9, 2022 11:32 am

Ed Casesays:
October 9, 2022 at 10:20 am
Can we have a separate J Rotten joke thread?
Send Rotten to the Duelling Thread.

Why? He isn’t duelling.

shatterzzz
October 9, 2022 11:35 am

I used to think advisor meant to advise.

“Advisor” in the PS nowadays, generally, means “keeping it in the family” far too many are family or close friends of serving & past politicians .. it really is an “old boys & girls” offspring club with very few on under $85k a year .. no experience necessary just “who you know” connections …..

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 9, 2022 11:35 am

Richard Cranium

but beyond reproach when reporting on a genuine scandal in Defence?

I don’t think that Parliament House is formally part of the Defence Organisation.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 11:37 am

Britnah has no idea of timelines Ed, vomits or anything else.
Security did regular checks on her during that morning, while also having frantic conferences over whether or not to call an ambulance.
The times and details are in their Logbooks.
I’m speculating, as are you, we’ve heard nothing of detail from the man himself.
Huh?
There remains an outside chance that he did take advantage and is a truly repulsive type.
While he does appear repulsive from the newspaper photos, remember that they pick the worst photo to put in the paper.
He’s denied that any sexual intercourse took place, and at the moment he’s gotta be presumed Innocent.
Remember that he spent a long time sequestered in a Private Mental Hospital in Sydney unable to be questioned, so I’d have some sympathy for him regardless.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
October 9, 2022 11:38 am

This was always going to happen when the Sheep voted to allow filthy poofters to ‘marry’.

Just like Muslims using Aboriginal law as precedent to want to become judge, jury and executioner of Muslims being insufficiently submissive.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
October 9, 2022 11:41 am

He’s denied that any sexual intercourse took place

In the old days, t’was da women that denied intercourse while the bloke was down at the pub boasting to his mates.

How times have changed.

Razey
Razey
October 9, 2022 11:42 am

The Beer whisperersays:
October 9, 2022 at 11:31 am
I used to think so; not anymore. 34%voted LNP; 32% liars, 22% teals and filth. The majority of the electorate are fucking idiots.

I don’t know what you call voting every 3 years for who gets to control you, but it ain’t democracy.

The Sheep don’t demand truth and honesty from the overlords, so they wont get it. The Sheep aren’t interested in truth, only in the next dopamine hit.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
October 9, 2022 11:44 am

An uncritical puff piece for the ALP and the institutionalised childcare industry:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-09/childcare-subsidy-increase-welcome-bendigo-family-budget/101508374

From the ABC? Who would have thought?

We can’t have parents raising their own children! They could teach them Wrongthink.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 11:44 am

I used to think advisor meant to advise.
It’s an entry level job for people with Party connections.
It would be fair to guess that the Higgins family are Liberal LNP people.

If her family hasn’t supported her thru this, then it’s understandable how Ms Higgins has been conned by female Labor Party types and the uber creepy David Sharaz.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 9, 2022 11:45 am

Richard Cranium

He won’t say that, since Ms Higgins woke and vomited hours after Lehrmann called a Uber and headed off.

If you have actual proof of this assertion, the prosecution might wish to discuss with you other things you saw that night.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 9, 2022 11:49 am

Like all lobby groups it will become an insatiable source of demand for money, changes in legislation, and pursue all these things with a single-minded intensity,” he suggested, noting how indigenous spending in Canada had “exploded”.

Yet even though indigenes are a higher percentage of a larger population in Canada, the Canadian expenditure ($C25 billion) is lower than Australia’s “crumbs from the table” (h/t Richard Cranium) of $A33 billion.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 9, 2022 11:52 am

“Through all these decades of steadily increasing spending, the gap in living standards between first nations people on reserves and other Canadians, have remained almost exactly the same,” Dr Flanagan said.

Although the living standards of self-selected indigenous “leaders” and miscellaneous non-indigenous academics and activists have risen quite markedly.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 9, 2022 11:53 am

so quiet.
quiet so.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 9, 2022 11:54 am

Ed Casesays:
October 9, 2022 at 11:07 am
The accuser could have kept her far more pertinent dress and underwear as ‘evidence’ but chose not to.
Why?
The underwear had been removed beforehand, so no foreign DNA, and Ms Higgins dressed herself from bags of donated clothes before she finally left Reynolds’s office after 10 am.

Weak even by your pathetic standards. Mizz “Blue Dress” in Washington produced the dress, not her knickers.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 9, 2022 11:55 am

Rosie, thank you very much for taking the trouble to find a link to how banks help with travel, in this case with Combank. As I have a Commbank account I will find it helpful, so may othrs, and we can check other banks too for the same thing. As I said, I am in some ways an internet banking Luddite, so it all helps.

Razey
Razey
October 9, 2022 11:55 am

Was the PayPal furor a CIA honey pot?

Anyone who cancelled their account will be easily known and added to the ‘list’.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 9, 2022 11:56 am

How can it be a terrorist operation when the Kersh bridge was closed to civilians last month? It was an entirely military target.

The truck was coming from Russia, so how did whoever planted the bomb not have the truck driver in on the plot? Also, how get past the explosives check on the Russia side?

It is a terrible failure on the part of the Russians, at many levels.

m0nty-fa

Are you still here? I thought you would have been winging your way to Ukraine by now, to sign up for the great campaign against Wussian imperialism.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 9, 2022 11:58 am

I think we should defer to Groogs on the mechanics of having sex with unconscious women. No Googlin’ required. I knew this would happen eventually.

Vicki
Vicki
October 9, 2022 11:58 am

Watching the carnage at Bathurst. This morning checked out our own carnage from the huge rainfall in our valley in the last 24 hours. A new river across our lower flats and lakes across other parts. Had to go to bed last night with a couple of Angus trapped in a paddock – however they were fine this morning and husband and I walked them out. Otherwise we just have to wait for floods to subside & then attend to fence damage – which is a fair bit. Meanwhile we are watching Bathurst for most of the day & then the Japanese Grand Prix in the afternoon.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 9, 2022 12:00 pm

I see Ed is believing all da wymminses.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 9, 2022 12:01 pm

Lizzie

I also doubt very much that a non-consensual act of penetrative sexual intercourse took place in the case of Ms Higgins; given the time factor, any such act seems quite unlikely and her behaviour when she was sober and after that, holding no DNA evidence and scrubbing her phone calls, introduces considerable uncertainty into her ‘recollections’.

Add in the “Brewers Droop” factor to the time factor, and the case becomes less likely.

cohenite
October 9, 2022 12:03 pm

But they have a real aversion to that type of inequality that raises up one group over another by conferring on them special rights and privileges that the others will never be able to claim.

Let’s hope so because the elites no longer even bother to hide the double standard. In the US the justice system is kaput for this very reason. But here in Australia if the bat eared hunchback gets back in your theory may need tinkering. Even if there is no opposition with that political marmoset, Guy, deserving no consideration, if the conservative minors, PHON, LDP, do not increase their vote, then that latent quality you see in the punters may be just a dream.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 9, 2022 12:05 pm

even less likely.

rickw
rickw
October 9, 2022 12:08 pm

Are you still here? I thought you would have been winging your way to Ukraine by now, to sign up for the great campaign against Wussian imperialism.

Malmo 2.0

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 9, 2022 12:08 pm

You suspect Groogs is already on his 2nd tube sock for the day. Eeeeewwwwww.

Razey
Razey
October 9, 2022 12:10 pm

Account closed

You’ve closed your PayPal account.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 9, 2022 12:10 pm

Kiev ? Americans, Specials or CIA.

Too early to tell

Ukraine have Chechens fighting for them.

Chechen soldiers now fighting alongside Ukrainian forces (4 Oct)

I’ve seen reports that the truck driver may not have been aware he had a multitonne bomb in his truck. But on the other hand I suspect there’d be a lot of guys from the Caucasus republics with an animus towards the Russians, and a yearning for the 72 virgins, that the SZR could cultivate.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 12:12 pm

I think we should defer to Groogs on the mechanics of having sex with unconscious women. No Googlin’ required. I knew this would happen eventually.
Heheh, flashes of humour there, CareBear.
As the Wogs are wont to say, get’ er while she’s asleep.

More seriously, if this was a, er, Back Door attack and Ms Higgins hasn’t been completely upfront with the Prosecution about that, then I think this will fall over before Lehrmann has to take the stand.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 12:15 pm

Add in the “Brewers Droop” factor to the time factor, and the case becomes less likely.

You’re scrapin’ the bottom of the barrel now, SpongeBob.
Brewer’s Droop at 24?
In your case, perhaps, but you’re the exception that proves the rule.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 9, 2022 12:18 pm

If the Higgins case proves anything, it will be that Peter Fitzsimons is a predator. Prick of the highest order.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 9, 2022 12:18 pm

I thought you would have been winging your way to Ukraine by now, to sign up for the great campaign against Wussian imperialism.

Those Right Sector and Kraken good guys might have another use
for those soft, pudgy, nazi punching fists.
IYKWIM

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 9, 2022 12:22 pm

rosiesays:

October 9, 2022 at 10:27 am

Yes, people’s who’s offices have been vomited in by random uninvited visitors should leave them as is, just in case down the track someone alleges something.

Correct.
There was an entire box of half-digested Cadbury Roses choccys in a vodka/stomach acid emulsion all over the place.
On Monday morning they assumed they were juddealing with a couple of pissheads raiding the Minister’s wine fridge.
It wasn’t until the Tuesday after Bruce came out of the CoS’s office and started packing his stuff into an archive box that the rape story surfaced.
As an aside, that is another security issue. He just got fired from the Defence Minister’s office, and he can just pick up shit from his desk and walk out with it.
I worked in a similar secure environment for a while, and can remember two summary dismissals. They did not get to return to their desk and pack up alone. There was an actual security procedure governing it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 9, 2022 12:24 pm

If the Higgins case proves anything, it will be that Peter Fitzsimons is a predator. Prick of the highest order.

He emerges from the whole affair with no credit – a book entitled “How my Ropist was found “Not Guilty” probably won’t sell too many copies.

Jorge
Jorge
October 9, 2022 12:25 pm

Pipeline ….. bridge …… where next ?

Turnip
Turnip
October 9, 2022 12:27 pm

Given the pre publicity, the pressure on the jury to convict will be overwhelming.No matter how may holes are poked in her story the best BL can hope for is one or two holdouts. Then he has to hope the CP don’t have another go at him. Sad reality of life these days.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 9, 2022 12:27 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:

October 9, 2022 at 10:30 am

“GreyRangasays:
October 9, 2022 at 10:27 am
Lizzie whenever we go overseas we notify our bank where we are going, including transit stops

Live and learn.
We got our cards blocked a few years back.
Mrs P was travelling for work and used the card in three countries in a 24 hour period. I was on a long roadtrip to catch up with friends and used the card in two spots 700 kms apart on that same day.
The big bank compuda decided that was dodgy so blocked the cards.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 9, 2022 12:30 pm

Mrs Pirate Pete’s cross examination should provide a useful insight into the production of mass consumption current affairs television. I don’t expect it to be pretty. Frontline on steroids.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 9, 2022 12:31 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:

October 9, 2022 at 10:42 am

What is the best way to notify the bank of your international travel movements?

Try “admin” or “contact us” on their website.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 9, 2022 12:32 pm

Yes Zulu, I would not think there is a market for failed cases of political nobodies.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 9, 2022 12:33 pm

Given the pre publicity, the pressure on the jury to convict will be overwhelming

I’m not sure this is the dynamic. Even in the ACT.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 9, 2022 12:36 pm

Given the pre publicity, the pressure on the jury to convict will be overwhelming.

I’m with Cassie – this will go to the High Court.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 9, 2022 12:36 pm

A few weeks ago we received a standard newsletter from a financial institution that we use for a specific purpose.

The newsletter noted the bank’s membership of something called B Corp Certification*, which is ‘…internationally recognised and reinforces our brand promise to act as a force for good in the world and to always do what is good and right – regardless of whether that is the easiest option.”

Ok, another bulldust climate crap membership, I thought. However further down the newsletter was this statement:

[the bank will] avoid the provision of financial support to individuals or businesses whose activities are deemed detrimental or destructive to the environment, or harmful to members of society

I thought, what jobs or business sectors could be made unacceptable because of this decision?

The first response from the bank to my inquiry cited APRA’s prudential guidance (CPG 229), and referred to financial institutions having to “tailor their risk management systems” because of climate change. Also cited were the results of its Sustainability Survey that had been conducted from earlier in the year.

I checked out APRA’s prudential guidance (CPG 229) and noted in my next email to the bank that APRA Chair, Wayne Byers, specifically noted that APRA,

“does not prescribe any particular way of doing things. Nor does it force companies to making any particular investment, lending or underwriting decision – those are matters for the entities themselves to decide. But we do want to make sure that those decisions are well-informed, and don’t undermine the interests of bank depositors, insurance policyholders or superannuation members,” Mr Byres said.
https://www.apra.gov.au/news-and-publications/apra-finalises-prudential-guidance-on-managing-financial-risks-of-climate

Ialso pointed out that questions that could have assisted respondents to fully understand what the implications for members and borrowers would be if the bank avoided the provision of credit on the grounds of climate change, must not have been asked. Questions such as:

1) Would you be happy for the bank to refuse you or your family or friends a car/holiday/house loan because the carbon footprint of the purchase is deemed above that which is safe for the environment and/or society?

2) Industries and sectors of the Australian economy such smelting, engineering and construction, coal mining, oil and gas extraction, cement and brick-making, agriculture including food and fibre production, transport including roads and vehicles, railways and aviation, create high CO2 emissions according to the IPCC; would you be happy if the bank decided not to finance any businesses supplying to or producing in these areas, including providing credit to the employees of these businesses?

Another email response arrived, which is quoted from below.

It is not the Bank’s intention to turn away any member or potential member of our bank due to their regular employment arrangements.

While reading this statement on its own without the context of the article, the Bank can understand how you have interpreted that individuals, being consumers, may not be afforded the services that the Bank offers if we indeed deem their activities as detrimental or destructive to the environment, or harmful to members of society. This was not the writer’s intention and for this we apologise that it caused you concern…

Under the Bank’s policies we have many situations where due diligence is undertaken of members
and businesses where we cannot accommodate their needs for example: fraudsters, known money launderers, and businesses that do not fit within our risk accepted profile. We have a fiduciary duty to protect our members’ funds. These due diligence processes mitigate the Bank and its members from this risk.

Where Climate Risk is concerned, the Bank relies on information obtained during the credit
decision to determine the level of risk associated with its lending activities. Our credit policies do in fact limit exposure to sectors that are harmful to society, and that is the ethical position that the bank has taken.

As you have stated in your information to me on 24 August 2022, and as is guided by our regulator, APRA have no prescribed manner in the way that entities approach their mitigation of
Climate Risk
in the business rather that the Bank is to decide its own course…

My final email advised that we were pleased to be informed that the Bank confirms that its fiduciary responsibility stands at the apex of its role as an Australian financial institution, and not any adherence to any policy or program as outlined in or related to its membership under the B Corp Certification.

*(B Corp Certification) This is from the website: https://www.bcorporation.net/en-us/movement/global-network

THE PROBLEM
The current economic system, driven by business as one of its key actors, is failing to meet its potential and promise to create positive impact. In fact, it creates significant negative impacts for people, communities, and the planet. We’ve identified three key aspects that reinforce the problematic role of business: the design of legal systems; business behavior and operations; and corporate culture and the dominant narratives around business and success.

This leads to three types of negative impacts that we see across societies and cultures: structural social and economic inequality; environmental degradation and resource extraction; and the decline of individual well-being and loss of social cohesion.

THE SOLUTION
By working with other movements, coalitions, policymakers, activists, and organizations, and by catalyzing our stakeholders — Certified B Corporations, benefit corporations, and businesses adopting B Lab’s standards — we can achieve our vision. And our five global strategies will get us there:

Drive the adoption of our standards to manage the impact of business.

Certify and engage businesses to improve their impact.

Articulate and amplify stories of business as an equitable force for good.

Catalyze policy change to enable business as a force for good.

Develop a network of local, regional, and global communities for change.

(I have written this experience up because this morning on the Outsiders was a reference to a US state – I can’t remember with one – announcing that it was withdrawing its investment funds from Blackrock because of ESG).

Mater
October 9, 2022 12:39 pm

Are you still here? I thought you would have been winging your way to Ukraine by now, to sign up for the great campaign against Wussian imperialism.

Nah. He can’t.
Apparently Riccardo has had some further family problems.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 12:45 pm

On Monday morning they assumed they were juddealing with a couple of pissheads raiding the Minister’s wine fridge.

Why would anyone assume that?
High flyers like Mr Lehrmann don’t get their careers finished over trivia.

It wasn’t until the Tuesday after Bruce came out of the CoS’s office and started packing his stuff into an archive box that the rape story surfaced.

You don’t know that.
Iirc, Ms Higgins had discussed the matter by phone/text with a former partner already.

bons
bons
October 9, 2022 12:47 pm

Virgin departure lounge, busting to nod off but Bathurst is blaring.
Wow, it is truely something, that race.
Five minutes of following each other around followed by fifteen minutes of pace car to the accompaniment of inane poseur preschoolers in dress-up nomex competing to string together the most idiotic superlatives about ‘Fitzie’s’ crutch temperature, or something.
Massive!

m0nty
m0nty
October 9, 2022 12:48 pm

Speculation that the Kersh bridge explosion was from a bomb or bombs planted under the bridge, possibly nothing to do with the truck that happened to be driving over it at the time.

That would take pressure off the Russian bomb detection system, but place pressure on whatever forces are supposed to prevent frogmen from doing what frogmen do.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 9, 2022 12:48 pm

If the Higgins case proves anything, it will be that Peter Fitzsimons is a predator. Prick of the highest order.

If Higgins really wanted to clinch a book deal she pull the pin and say she fabricated the whole thing having been misled by predators who took advantage of her youth and naivety (young and naive has worked before). Please … do the world a real favour and get the predators as a job lot: the graceless urger, the Barge-arse maiden, the stretch-necked cane toad, the lobotomised bandana-wearer, as well as the spineless politicians and the mainstream media – if only

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 12:50 pm

Given the pre publicity, the pressure on the jury to convict will be overwhelming.

Have you been binge watching Perry Mason again?
Juries in Australia are completely anonymous and they can bring in an Acquittal verdict and that’s the stone end of it.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 9, 2022 12:54 pm

At risk of sounding like a misogynist: on days where I am sleep-deprived I have day-dreams that the man accused of rope in a Canberra minister’s office gets on the stand and when asked if he had sexual relations with the plaintiff answers: ‘No, because I am a gentleman, the Plaintiff was inebriated to the point where she lost consciousness and I could not take advantage of her in that condition, and besides in that drunken state I noted her to be quite plain and not in the least alluring.’ I know I know won’t happen but … just for the shrieks to Pluto it is a most entertaining reverie.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 12:54 pm

If Higgins really wanted to clinch a book deal she pull the pin and say she fabricated the whole thing having been misled by predators who took advantage of her youth and naivety (young and naive has worked before).
Here’s your problem:
Ms Higgins had never met Grace Tame, Sam Maiden, Lisa Wilkinson or Peter Fitzsimons before that meeting with Reynolds on March 22 2019.
Now, Reynolds was a Brigadier, she’d be as hard as nails, do you think she woulda hesitated to sack Higgins if she thought she was lying?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 9, 2022 12:54 pm

Given the pre publicity, the pressure on the jury to convict will be overwhelming.

Doing a little arithmetic I work out that the ACT public voted 72.84% for left, further left and far left parties or independents in the last Federal election. Juries also swing leftier because lefties have more time on their hands. He’s rooted. I could be wrong, very gladly.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 9, 2022 12:56 pm

Delta Asays:
October 9, 2022 at 10:30 am

Thanks, Delta, for your kind thoughts. Yes, it was shocking and very sad.

rickw
rickw
October 9, 2022 12:58 pm

Doing a little arithmetic I work out that the ACT public voted 72.84% for left

The most mentally ill place in Australia?

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 1:02 pm

Doing a little arithmetic I work out that the ACT public voted 72.84% for left, further left and far left parties or independents in the last Federal election.
I wouldn’t class the ALP or The Greens as Left Parties, but, yeah, their voters likely are, and if you count in Liberal voters, it’s up to 98%.

Juries also swing leftier because lefties have more time on their hands
Huh?
Lefties aren’t fans of Prisons, haven’t you noticed that?
.
He’s rooted.
He’s in a pretty good place if Jury makeup is any indication.
Rape defendants do worst with all male juries, the more women, the better the outcomes.

I could be wrong, …

LOL

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 9, 2022 1:04 pm

Doing a little arithmetic I work out that the ACT public voted 72.84% for left
The most mentally ill place in Australia?

No just pubic serpents rationally feathering their own nests.

rickw
rickw
October 9, 2022 1:04 pm

That would take pressure off the Russian bomb detection system, but place pressure on whatever forces are supposed to prevent frogmen from doing what frogmen do.

Please don’t stop, you’re starting to be genuinely funny!

https://digitalarchive.tpl.ca/objects/202224/harold-morrison-and-his-toy-soldiers-toronto-collector-mast

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 9, 2022 1:04 pm

Ed Casesays:
October 9, 2022 at 12:15 pm
Add in the “Brewers Droop” factor to the time factor, and the case becomes less likely.

You’re scrapin’ the bottom of the barrel now, SpongeBob.
Brewer’s Droop at 24?

You’re boasting. Try half a dozen shots of spirits, then get back to us.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 9, 2022 1:06 pm

The Sheep don’t demand truth and honesty from the overlords, so they wont get it. The Sheep aren’t interested in truth, only in the next dopamine hit.

That was a popular trope in lots of fiction.
Wasn’t that the backstory of RoboCop? Or possibly a PC computer game like Fallout or Crime Wave?

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 1:07 pm

Speculation that the Kersh bridge explosion was from a bomb or bombs planted under the bridge, possibly nothing to do with the truck that happened to be driving over it at the time.

No damage to or blast marks on the bridge pylons.
Putler has announced a Commission of Inquiry to look into the matter.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 9, 2022 1:08 pm

The most mentally ill place in Australia?

The Skywhale had ten tits.
Ms Piccinini is subversive.
Canberra is suckling on us.

Nothing says “look at how many amazing people Canberra has produced” like a hideous airborne turtle with 10 tits. (Blair, 2013)

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 9, 2022 1:11 pm

m0ntysays:
October 9, 2022 at 12:48 pm
Speculation that the Kersh bridge explosion was from a bomb or bombs planted under the bridge, possibly nothing to do with the truck that happened to be driving over it at the time.

That would take pressure off the Russian bomb detection system, but place pressure on whatever forces are supposed to prevent frogmen from doing what frogmen do.

Don’t bother reporting “speculation” m0nty-fa, wait till you have some actual facts.

Razey
Razey
October 9, 2022 1:12 pm

Wasn’t that the backstory of RoboCop? Or possibly a PC computer game like Fallout or Crime Wave?

Certainly the backdrop story in the Hunchback’s Sicktoria.

Diogenes
Diogenes
October 9, 2022 1:13 pm

You’re scrapin’ the bottom of the barrel now, SpongeBob.

Alcohol… Giveth the desire, taketh away the ability

min
min
October 9, 2022 1:13 pm

Another story going around, may have been in paper, is that she muddled which leg Got bruised, first the right then the left.
Was she too drunk for an Italian mouthful ?

custard
custard
October 9, 2022 1:13 pm

Trump on stage in Minden Nevada

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 1:13 pm

You’re boasting. Try half a dozen shots of spirits, then get back to us.
Problem 1.:
Ms Higgins had 11 shots plus a glass of some clear liquid, according to CCTV at the Bar.
Mr Lehrmann had very little to drink, according to the same CCTV.

Half Bacardi & Soda is the way to go, let the barmaid know beforehand and while everybody else is blotto inside 3 hours, you’ve still gotcha wits about you.

Crossie
Crossie
October 9, 2022 1:14 pm

Re Mother Lode’s comments @ 9:28 am on the AWM “frontier wars”

There is the final irony. A memorial to courage, honour, and sacrifice overseen by the timid, the servile, and the self-regarding.

How would this be any different if we had recently lost a war and our enemies are dismantling all our monuments and memorials? The least Brendan Nelson could do is object and resign in a very public fashion. That he is going along with this means that he either has no sense or national pride or that he simply agrees.

It is now obvious that the Libs/Nats have been infiltrated by the left but not enough people are noticing.

Cassie of Sydney
October 9, 2022 1:14 pm

“So, sudden pressure from a knee on the hamstring area would be excruciatingly painful enough to rouse a drunk person from semiconsciousness and would also indicate the knee person was attacking the back door.

Which would cause ongoing trauma and explain why the victim was reluctant to go straight to the Cops.”

Oh and if it was through the “back door” as Ed Case Sutra so delicately suggests it might have been, she most likely would have required medical assistance the following day.

The “Ed Case Sutra” isn’t a patch on the Karma Sutra.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 9, 2022 1:15 pm

Richrd Cranium

Now, Reynolds was a Brigadier, she’d be as hard as nails, do you think she woulda hesitated to sack Higgins if she thought she was lying?

Suuuure. There would have been nothing that would have enthused her more than being labeled as another “Liberal with a woman problem”.

Ease back on the gluten.

Cassie of Sydney
October 9, 2022 1:16 pm

“If the Higgins case proves anything, it will be that Peter Fitzsimons is a predator. “

The wife is too.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 9, 2022 1:16 pm

Ed Casesays:
October 9, 2022 at 1:02 pm

That’s very funny Ed. I count seven logical inconsistencies plus one squirrel in your comment. 😀

Roger
Roger
October 9, 2022 1:17 pm

That he is going along with this means that he either has no sense or national pride or that he simply agrees.

I think in Nelson’s case there’s a third possibility, Crossie, and I canvassed it yesterday:

By staying on he believes he can mitigate the damage.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 9, 2022 1:18 pm

War is hell but mUny’s play by play provides the LOLs.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 9, 2022 1:19 pm

Half Bacardi & Soda is the way to go, let the barmaid know beforehand and while everybody else is blotto inside 3 hours, you’ve still gotcha wits about you.

The voice of experience? ROFLMAO.

Cassie of Sydney
October 9, 2022 1:20 pm

“It is now obvious that the Libs/Nats have been infiltrated by the left but not enough people are noticing.”

Most people I spoke to at CPAC have noticed. Apparently, that lowlife Senator Bummingham from SA has Dutton’s ear. That would explain why Dutton, earlier this week on Sky, happily and merrily smeared people like myself who attended CPAC as “extreme right”. So, ordinary middle class Australians, hardworking men and women, once the backbone of the Liberal Party, the very people Robert Menzies alluded to in his “Forgotten People” speech in 1942, are now considered “extreme right” by the Liberals. That’s the state of the Liberal Party in 2022.

Fucking disgraceful.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 1:23 pm

Another story going around, may have been in paper, is that she muddled which leg Got bruised, first the right then the left.
That was in the papers because Ms Higgins was asked about the discrepancy during Cross examination.
She’d photographed the bruise, indicating that it was on the back of her thigh.
In her Deposition, she mixed up right and left!

Try having a squiz at the back of your thigh without using a mirror.
I’d be interested to hear which way she was laying on the couch [face down?], which leg was closest to the back of the couch and which thigh was bruised.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 9, 2022 1:25 pm

President Biden: ‘I Didn’t Know There Were That Many Socialist Republicans’

He’s a stopped clock.

McConnell Eats His Own In Alaska (8 Oct)

Sen. Mitch McConnell has no excuse. The ads his political group is producing to attack Alaska Republican Senate candidate Kelly Tshibaka are beyond the pale. … And it is shocking Alaskans, indeed. McConnell’s determination to destroy another Republican’s reputation is driving Alaskans away from the Republican Party

He’s actually running attack ads against his own party. The RINOs hate Tshibaka because she’s hot and Trumpy, and Murkowski is one of theirs. McConnell should check his front door daily for tumbrils.

Indolent
Indolent
October 9, 2022 1:26 pm

Things that make you go hmmmm

One

Two

Two, in particular, is rather telling.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 9, 2022 1:27 pm

Richard Cranium

Try having a squiz at the back of your thigh without using a mirror.
I’d be interested to hear which way she was laying on the couch [face down?], which leg was closest to the back of the couch and which thigh was bruised.

Purely in the interests of research, eh Dick ‘Ed? Take your prurient obsession elsewhere.

Cassie of Sydney
October 9, 2022 1:28 pm

“johannasays:
October 9, 2022 at 1:24 pm”

One minute she says she too busy watching Bathurst, the next minute she’s trolling through a thread to attack Lizzie with. She just can’t help herself. Sad.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 1:29 pm

Apparently, that lowlife Senator Bummingham from SA has Dutton’s ear.
I wouldn’t be taking your word on that [or anything else], but if he is, he’s on the right track.
If the Post Turtles who lost their seats on May 21 were only half as shrewd as Birmo, we wouldn’t be lumbered with an idiot Government lurching from crisis to crisis, and 31 months of insanity still to go.

Roger
Roger
October 9, 2022 1:31 pm

I’m not sure this is the dynamic. Even in the ACT.

I tend to agree with Bear. It’s the task of the trial judge in her directions to the jury to ensure that they do not err in carrying out their role. Given the publicity the case has received and the probability of a review on appeal in the case of a guilty verdict (given the nature of the case), she will be particularly conscious of her duty in this regard.

Makka
Makka
October 9, 2022 1:33 pm

Ed makes a great case; Just amalgamate the LNP with the ALP for a decisive and assured win!

Crossie
Crossie
October 9, 2022 1:34 pm

The world’s biggest reinsurer Munich Re has cut back its coverage of oil and gas projects, as activists step up pressure on the industry to do more to tackle climate change.

The German reinsurance group said on Thursday that from April next year, it would no longer invest in or insure the planning, financing, construction or operation of new oil and gasfields, new oil-fired power plants or developments in “midstream” oil infrastructure like storage and transport.

And that’s why I don’t care what happens to Germany this winter. They have to get it good and hard if they can’t learn any other way.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 9, 2022 1:36 pm

Another story going around, may have been in paper, is that she muddled which leg Got bruised, first the right then the left.

Classic vid.
The brain comments fit too.

Zipster
Zipster
October 9, 2022 1:41 pm
Zipster
Zipster
October 9, 2022 1:44 pm

Disintegrating the CCP, is it possible? More Chinese are breaking out of fears and the world changes
China Insights

Since the Tiananmen Square incident on June 4th, 1989, a memorial service has been held in Washington, D.C. annually on June 4th, with the theme of vindicating the June 4 Incident. However, since 2005, the memorial theme has changed to calling upon members of the Chinese Communist Party, or CCP, to quit the party.

As we entered the year 2022, the global movement to quit the CCP and its affiliated organizations has become widespread in China and among overseas Chinese communities. Organizers of the campaign claim that 400 million Chinese have withdrawn from the CCP and its related organizations by late August 2022.

MatrixTransform
October 9, 2022 1:46 pm

That would take pressure off the Russian bomb detection system, but place pressure on whatever forces are supposed to prevent frogmen from doing what frogmen do.

first-class again mUnty

replace wild speculation with well … wild speculation

good point though … frogmen(and women) cannot drive trucks

Crossie
Crossie
October 9, 2022 1:47 pm

I’m watching a recording of this morning’s The Outsiders. Sky should sack the technical staff on that program as they twice missed their cues and had no clips ready to play when announced by presenters. I think somebody here mentioned previously that Sky technicians were sabotaging their conservative programs.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 1:47 pm

He’s actually running attack ads against his own party. The RINOs hate Tshibaka because she’s hot and Trumpy, and Murkowski is one of theirs.

Here’s the reality:
The top 4 placegetters in the Republican Primary automatically get their names on the ballot, as well as candidates from other parties.
If Tshibata splits the Republican vote, a Democrat will win.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 9, 2022 1:47 pm

That’s the way with Ed. ‘Probably’ ‘maybe’ etc.
I personally don’t give a flying fuck about Higgins, I am more concerned about a man who is being dragged through the mud and as a result, unemployable.

Razey
Razey
October 9, 2022 1:49 pm

Blessed are the unvaxxed because they will inherit the Earth.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 1:50 pm

Purely in the interests of research, eh Dick ‘Ed? Take your prurient obsession elsewhere.
Sure.
We can take it to the Duelling Thread.
If you’ve got the guts?

duncanm
duncanm
October 9, 2022 1:52 pm

Ed Casesays:
October 9, 2022 at 10:07 am
I’m still curious as to why she didn’t ask the (lady) security guard, who discovered her, for help.
Because she was asleep.

uh huh.

“The sound of the door or the breeze of the door opening has then made the female open her eyes, look at me. And then she’s rolled over onto her side.

“So, therefore, my [take] on it was she’s conscious. She’s breathing. She’s doesn’t look like she’s in distress. She’s just sleeping off her night. And with that, I shut the door, and I exited the room.”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 9, 2022 1:52 pm

If Tshibata splits the Republican vote, a Democrat will win.

You mean, Ed, “if the RINOs splits the Republican vote, a Democrat will win”.
Palin has commented on this extensively and correctly.
The enemy of the RINOs isn’t the Dems.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 1:55 pm

Britneh should be awarded the Lizzie prize for barefaced lies.
What’s she lying about, johanna?
Did you get the lowdown from Bruce during a sesh on the Vodka at that exclusive Eastern Suburbs Mental Hospital?

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 9, 2022 1:58 pm

Ed, put up or fuck off.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 1:59 pm

Bruce:
Murkowski is the sitting Senator.
Tshibata can’t win, but she can stop Murkowski, meaning a Pro Abortion Democrat will win and Biden will hold on to the Senate.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 9, 2022 1:59 pm

Top o the page

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 9, 2022 1:59 pm

Duelling Thread, blackball.

duncanm
duncanm
October 9, 2022 2:01 pm

Indolentsays:
October 9, 2022 at 1:26 pm
Things that make you go hmmmm

One

Two

Two, in particular, is rather telling.

#2 just shows ignorance of methods of mass production.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 9, 2022 2:02 pm

No sir, you have been thoroughly discredited so no further action is required.

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