Open Thread – Weekend 29 Oct 2022


Still Life with Dahlias, Zinnias, Hollyhocks and Plums, Eugène Delacroix, 1835


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Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
October 30, 2022 11:23 am

I just returned from my morning walk, 1 hour of freezing my tits off. 10 C with wind from the south at 25 knots, cold very cold.
Gerbil Warming is a scam.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
October 30, 2022 11:26 am

This being the ABC, there is not even a hint, let alone an acknowledgement, that it is ‘First Nations’ men who are the problem:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-30/first-nations-women-criticise-domestic-violence-policing-in-nt/101584086

No , the astronomical murder rate from domestic violence is all down to nasty racist police.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 30, 2022 11:26 am

There does not seem to be much indication of stepping up to the plate. He is certainly hiding those rock ribbed Conservative values under a bushel.
He’s a Liberal leading the Liberal Party.
Conservative values such as opposing Abortion and going it alone on Emissions Reduction are the road to Electoral oblivion.
Which is why Labor avoid both like The Plague.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 11:27 am

Great observation and I love the comment. The transition always happens as the Consumer makes the choice.

Some consumers are making the choice, you fucking moron. That’s why Musk is/was worth US$200 billion and Tesla has a market cap of US$720 billion. He predicted people would make the choice with the right car.

Stick to stealing jokes pretending what a funny guy you are, you spammer.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 30, 2022 11:27 am

1 hour of freezing my tits off.

But it is warmer at the weather station that is in line with the jet exhausts at Melbourne airport.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 11:29 am

Perth is certainly not turning it on. I’m complaining about the cold like my Old Man used to after coming down from Tom Price. Like electricity prices, next week looks better.

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 11:30 am

MatrixTransformsays:
October 30, 2022 at 11:19 am
sancho … do you have a pull-string like a doll?

you seem make the same stupid noises every day

say something about Japan … it will be soooo witty and clever

Mrs Stench Pantyhose and please show some respect……………………lol

JR

Razey
Razey
October 30, 2022 11:30 am

The transition always happens as the Consumer makes the choice.

The Bandito’s are going to look pretty Gay riding around on their electric Harley’s.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 11:33 am

Actually I never complain about the cold in Perth. I’ve spent too long with sweat rolling down my bum crack.

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 11:34 am

MatrixTransformsays:
October 30, 2022 at 11:17 am
Batteries are a joke

for jonnyRotten:

just found two lumps on my car battery
got them tested and one came back positive.
its terminal

LOL and very gooooooood. JC and Mrs Stencho Pantyhose will be pleased as it is not one of ‘my’ ‘jokes’……………………………

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2022 11:35 am

Building site lingo?

da fuk wud u no

Razey
Razey
October 30, 2022 11:36 am

I remember when it was cheaper to take the bus than fly to Perth. Yes, I took a bus from Sydney to Perth back in the day. Horrible.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 30, 2022 11:36 am

m0ntysays:
October 30, 2022 at 11:04 am
The KRudd and Albo Cabinets show similar depth- that is none.

Rudd’s cabinet had a lot of depth, the problem was Rudd wanted to run everything. I am sure in his quiet moments Kevin let out a low whistle at Morrison’s plan to obtain every single ministerial post by secret, bit of “why didn’t I think of that” running through his brain.

Albo’s cabinet is untested,we shall see what their capabilities are over the course of the next two terms. They won’t have to try hard to be better than the previous shower of idiots.

Ambiguous writing style there, m0nty-fa, but your comparison (unintended or not) between the KRudd and AnAl cabinets rings true.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 11:36 am

The Bandito’s are going to look pretty Gay riding around on their electric Harley’s.

But you can knock back a few Woodies while you wait for a charger at the clubhouse.

Makka
Makka
October 30, 2022 11:37 am

I don’t think the transition to EV’s will be fast or in many regions even practical given these 2 examples of EV Hell. Still many practical challenges to overcome, many not concerning the EV itself. But it won’t stop Govt’s forcing them down our throats , because we know none of this affects them directly. It’s always the punters who must suffer. For our own good of course;

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2022/10/13/wyoming-ev-road-trip-15-hours-from-cheyenne-to-casper/

https://climatechangedispatch.com/i-rented-an-electric-car-for-a-four-day-road-trip-and-it-was-a-nightmare/

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2022 11:37 am

The huge amounts of sulphur, chlorine and carbon dioxide that are pumped out by volcanoes.
Where does the sulphur and carbon come from?

Inco – Seawater and dead fish.

Here’s a good graphic of the Pacific plate sliding under New Zealand. On the RHS the colours show the depth of the earthquakes. As a result you can literally see the oceanic crust sheet sinking into the Mantle. Note where the blue and purple dots are – they’re right under the line of kiwi volcanoes from White Island in the north to Ruapehu in the south central part of North Island.

Thus the ocean floor is being dragged down to a depth of about 200-300 km where it melts and rises in the form of magma – which powers New Zealand’s volcanoes. There’s a lot of sulfate in seawater, and chloride. Both then volatilize and provide the SO2 and HCl in volcanic gases. The seawater is entrained in the ocean bottom ooze which is being subducted. And the CO2 comes from both the dead sea flora and fauna and the carbonate in the seawater, which is quite a lot also.

Volcanic arcs above subducting plate are all over the Earth. Pretty much all volcanoes are associated with them (except hot spot ones like Hawaii). The Smithsonian/USGS weekly reports are a great place to go to see what is happening volcano-wise.

rosie
rosie
October 30, 2022 11:39 am

I will transition when price and reliability are on par with ICE that includes at least a seven year warranty including batteries.
Of course government will get us to price parity by taxing ICE cars up.
Someone needs to get NSW to hang on to their coal fired power, we almost need a Euro style energy crisis.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 30, 2022 11:39 am

This being the ABC, there is not even a hint, let alone an acknowledgement, that it is ‘First Nations’ men who are the problem:
It is a story about the nature of the typical Police response.
No , the astronomical murder rate from domestic violence is all down to nasty racist police.
That’s you Strawman, it’s neither said nor implied in the ABC story.
What is implied, but not stated, is that by the time the NT cops feel like turning up, the Aboriginal Female victim is likely to be wounded and extremely angry.
The NT Cops take the easy way out and throw her into the back of the Paddy Wagon.
Problem solved.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 11:41 am

One other thing Bush.. The take up of cars was not immediate. The first horseless carriages were not even used for traveling much but as playthings for the rich. You’re smart dude (as you keep reminding us) so pick up a book on the history of the time.

I’m not checking, but the first car came on stream in the 1880s.

It wasn’t just the technology of the car itself that made the auto possible. It was also the work of Rockefeller lowering the cost of gasoline from 500 bucks a gallon (in the 1850s) in real terms to a cost that made it accessible to consumers. Then Ford ensured that the auto became available to the middle classes. Both of these geniuses reached their goal through the process of mass production. That is economic efficiency.

Funny how Rockefeller made cheap gasoline available. Kinda of what we’re talking about now regarding batteries. A smart guy like you Bush… this shouldn’t have flown over your head. 🙂

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 11:42 am

LOL and very gooooooood. JC and Mrs Stencho Pantyhose will be pleased as it is not one of ‘my’ ‘jokes’……………………………

Spammer.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 30, 2022 11:42 am

From the internet:

Q: What would an English football fan do if England won the World Cup?

A: Stop playing FIFA and go to bed.

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 11:43 am

JCsays:
October 30, 2022 at 11:27 am
Great observation and I love the comment. The transition always happens as the Consumer makes the choice.

Some consumers are making the choice, you fucking moron. That’s why Musk is/was worth US$200 billion and Tesla has a market cap of US$720 billion. He predicted people would make the choice with the right car.

Stick to stealing jokes pretending what a funny guy you are, you spammer.

My my. Give a Twat a compliment and it goes to the end of his prick. How can I be stealing jokes as there is no copyright on any of them. If you have ever worked in commerce then you should know that. What really gives me a larf’ is that you and Mrs Stencho Pantyhose must be reading my jokes to get so very annoyed. Happy Days. You two just keep on giving and giving. Own this site in your dreams you pompous windbag.

JR

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 11:44 am

EVs really feel like an interim step. I’m not sure where will end up but I suspect we will look at current EVs like this:
https://group.mercedes-benz.com/company/tradition/company-history/1885-1886.html

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 11:46 am

Knuckle Draggersays:
October 30, 2022 at 11:42 am
From the internet:

Q: What would an English football fan do if England won the World Cup?

A: Stop playing FIFA and go to bed.

They won it once but the next time will cause massive heart attacks…………………..

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
October 30, 2022 11:47 am

Just back from a trip to Europe. Had 15 days in Germany and Austria, 3 days at Windsor and 11 days in Ireland. The overwhelming feeling I got was the total sense of denial about the looming energy crisis, people are aware that there will not be enough energy for this winter but “that’s OK, they’ll ensure domestic users have priority”. The only complaining was about petrol and diesel prices.

I can confirm calli’s observations about the spicy cough. In Germany the only requirement to wear masks is on the trains and the proportion of people wearing masks in public is no more than 5-10%, even less in the UK and Ireland. I took some Ivermectin with me in case I came down with any symptoms, I wasn’t worried about catching it just concerned at derailing travel plans. I took a course of vitamins every day and had no problems at all.

Did a tour of Windsor Castle not long after it had reopened to visitors and the Queen’s tomb in St George’s Chapel had been completed. Long lines for the chapel when we came out, got there early to avoid the crowds.

Loved Ireland and was surprised to see how wealthy a country it is, for a country with a similar population and geographic size to NZ it has a far better road network and the homes are much better kept. Like everywhere the climate Armageddon propaganda is all pervasive, and the peat power stations have all been shut down without replacements.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 11:48 am

My my. Give a Twat a compliment and it goes to the end of his prick.

Rodney, I don’t need a compliment from you sweetheart.

How can I be stealing jokes as there is no copyright on any of them.

Attribute them.

If you have ever worked in commerce then you should know that.

It’s immoral.

What really gives me a larf’ is that you and Mrs Stencho Pantyhose must be reading my jokes to get so very annoyed. Happy Days. You two just keep on giving and giving. Own this site in your dreams you pompous windbag.

Trust me on this.. the last one a read was months ago.

Stop spamming.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
October 30, 2022 11:49 am

Rambler, it’s 2700 klm to that warm spot you speak of.

Bear, oh the joy of sweat running down my bum crack, much nicer than my piles screaming when I sit on a frozen log.

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 11:49 am

Nigel Farage on Britain

Here is some Spam for JC and Mrs Stencho Pantyhose…………………..JC must be a closet West Ham Fan as he likes Spam.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/britain/nigel-farage-on-britain/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 11:50 am

Rodney, stop flipping out.

rickw
rickw
October 30, 2022 11:51 am

The remnants of the old lighting plants can still be found on rural properties.
The block for the motor and the graphite cathodes from the batteries lay around.
Your own home power system, it’s the way of the future.

Yep, 32V, kerosene engine and a huge battery bank. Whenever it rained there was a mad rush to get every pot and pan out to collect water. Still plenty of old 32V appliances kicking around, irons, floor polishers and fans. The first welder they ever had on the farm also ran on it. The hay elevator my uncle built while learning to weld is still in service.

Looks like centrally generated and reliable mains electricity lasted one generation before our political wreckers destroyed it. That’s some achievement.

Razey
Razey
October 30, 2022 11:51 am

people wearing masks

Some small news in Sicktoria. I often go to Asian grocery, and in the last month the number of asians wearing masks appears to have dropped significantly. A month ago, probably 70-80%, now I’s estimate around 20-30% (this was in the shop).

mem
mem
October 30, 2022 11:55 am

EXCLUSIVE: Two Far-Right Websites Attributed to David DePape to Smear Conservatives Were FABRICATED – They Were Created Friday and Deleted Saturday

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/10/exclusive-two-far-right-websites-attributed-david-depape-fabricated-created-friday-deleted-today/

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 30, 2022 11:58 am

132andBushsays:
October 30, 2022 at 10:08 am
Ed Case says:
October 30, 2022 at 9:01 am
Sky’s analysis of the budget is that household power prices will rise 80% in the next 18 months.
The sky is falling in too.
Here’s a few tips:
Don’t turn the lights on when you don’t need to
Use a rechargeable torch at night.
Go to bed at 8 o’clock.
Eat steak, it only takes a few minutes to cook.
Turn the Idiot box off, put it on the footpath.
Gas hot water.

Also, don’t leave the lights on when no one’s at home.

That’s going to be a problem for Ed. The lights are on but nobody’s home!

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 11:59 am

Stop spamming.

You would not know what spamming is you closet Wet Spam supporter. When you stop abusing others on this Blog then I might just consider slowing down the number of jokes. Some people here seem to like the jokes. As for you and your vitriol there needs to be a downtick button. Dover, over to you.

JR

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2022 12:01 pm

EVs really feel like an interim step.

I’d like a Mr Fusion conversion kit for my Mazda.

Makka
Makka
October 30, 2022 12:01 pm

A decent summary of the recent CCP Politburo and Standing Committee pow pow.

Where to from here?

Taiwan, missiles and spying set to be China’s priorities under new Xi term

Some excerpts….

The nature of the battle for which Xi is preparing can be divined from the backgrounds of the country’s two dozen most senior leaders, selected at the twice-a-decade political meeting that just concluded. His choices reflect a focus on developing advanced military and technological capabilities so that Beijing can withstand any pressure from the United States and its allies, particularly when it comes to enforcing territorial claims over Taiwan, the self-governing island democracy of 23 million.

And most of the 13 individuals promoted to join the 24-member Politburo not only have strong personal ties to Xi but technical expertise or experience relevant to his policy priorities of advanced technologies, security and military power.

“Another norm-breaking decision was to make Chen Wenqing, China’s current spy master, a Politburo member for the first time since the Ministry of State Security was created in the 1980s. Chen became the youngest deputy secretary in the corruption watchdog that Xi used to purge graft and rivals.

The promotion indicates that “the spies have come to power” in Xi’s China, much like the KGB in the Soviet Union, said Wu, the Stanford scholar.

John H.
John H.
October 30, 2022 12:02 pm

H B Bearsays:
October 30, 2022 at 11:36 am
The Bandito’s are going to look pretty Gay riding around on their electric Harley’s.

But you can knock back a few Woodies while you wait for a charger at the clubhouse.

They look stupid now.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 30, 2022 12:04 pm

There isn’t enough material to make the batteries. We’d have to mine for ages to have enough. We can’t replace all fossil fuels. Not without a huge lead time.

Christopher Martenson did a report on this just recently:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3wE63QQrtg

some highlights, to simply mine the various inputs needed to replace the existing fossil fuel infrastructure with a first generation ‘green’ system, would require, at current production rates:

Neodymium = 40 years
Copper = 190 years
Nickel = 400 years
Vanadium = 7000 years
Lithium = 10,000 years
Germanium = 29,000 years

And lets not point out the ‘inconvenient truth’ that pretty much all of said mining is fossil fuel powered.

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 12:07 pm

That’s going to be a problem for Ed. The lights are on but nobody’s home!

LOL. And not only that but how come there are so many lights on in Australian (and the World) CBD Buildings and Guv’ment Departments at night when everyone has gone home at 5 o’clock? Money to burn of course. Other people’s money……………………………

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 12:11 pm

A man and a woman are seated next to each other on a flight.

They start eyeing each other up, and both realise they want to do the same thing. He slips a condom out of his pocket, and she looks delighted.

“Rear toilet?” he suggests. “Five minutes” she agrees, and goes off.

He waits five minutes, then goes and slips in there with her.

“Right, get that condom on” she says. Soon, they are both sighing with pleasure.

But a sharp-eyed stewardess has noticed them, and realised what they are up to, so she humiliates them both by making an announcement over the radio: “To the lady and gentleman in the rear toilet, we know what you are doing, and it is expressly forbidden by airline regulations. Now, please put those cigarettes out and take the condom off the smoke detector”.

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 12:12 pm

Luck is not something you can mention in the presence of self-made men.

– E. B. White

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 30, 2022 12:19 pm

Ashley Chandrasinghe. 102 not out and still going, on debut.

Told youse. Warner’s replacement.

Remember the name.

cohenite
October 30, 2022 12:20 pm

Apparently old man pelosi was friendly with the nudist and an argument about payment developed. The demorats thought they had the perfect Jan 6 lie but with the media covering this the punters may not know until after the mid terms are stolen.

Mater
October 30, 2022 12:20 pm

Looks like centrally generated and reliable mains electricity lasted one generation before our political wreckers destroyed it. That’s some achievement.

If they replace even half the current ICE vehicles with EVs, and plug them in, they’ll burn the distribution system to the ground anyway.
Let’s not forget the impact of electrification of all the current domestic gas appliances and gas fired industrial plant.

It’s a baked in disaster, and it certainly hasn’t been factored into the costs associated with the renewable transition.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2022 12:24 pm

Neodymium = 40 years

There’s roughly 8.8 million tonnes of neodymium at Roxby in Sth Australia. It never appears in the REE resource estimates, but the deposit contains 8.8 billion tonnes of ore with 1 % REE. Neodymium is always 10% of the REE content. I can’t find a number for annual Nd consumption but it seems to be in the tens of thousands of tonnes. Which means Olympic Dam could provide enough neodymium for the entire planet for up to a thousand years all by itself. (BHP doesn’t bother to extract the REE.)

We’re not going to run out of REE for a very long time. I know of dozens of unexploited REE deposits.

(But yes, Greens carefully avert their eyes from the environmental cost of their religion.)

132andBush
132andBush
October 30, 2022 12:29 pm

JC

They arrived just in time otherwise they would’ve had to. The horse shit on city roads was unbearable. And imagine the stench?

So it happened organically then? No worries on that score.

Bush, you keep asserting you’re a very smart fellow, would a 7K subsidy sway your decision in favor of a Tesla? Also, stop being so blind. Subsidizing car manufacturers in the West has been full time occupation for governments since WW2.

Unlike you I do not go around blowing my own trumpet, your MO is getting very tired.
$7k? – No
The ev subsidies may be the first time in history where an inherent inefficiency is subsidised.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 30, 2022 12:29 pm

What is implied, but not stated, is that by the time the NT cops feel like turning up, the Aboriginal Female victim is likely to be wounded and extremely angry.

Is there nothing Grogarly isn’t an expert on? Northern territory policing, marginal area farming, medicine, law ?

rosie
rosie
October 30, 2022 12:30 pm

I remember when horse racing was out of vogue, in the 80s I went to Oaks day one year, crowd of around 5000, the next 50,000, the last year I went.
The big news stories on Tuesday will be clothing malfunctions, drunken antics and post cup ticket and container debris.

the Guardian talking down the Melbourne cup.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 30, 2022 12:31 pm

The Pelosi hammer hippy happening is looking to be the best popcorn political fun of the season.
The old bugger is eighty two and still looking for perversion. That’s quite something.

duncanm
duncanm
October 30, 2022 12:33 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
October 30, 2022 at 10:15 am
Could work but would rely on battery swap servos rather than charging points.

I haven’t seen anything about the legal issues. Who owns the battery if there’s a problem? Trucks would have old batteries and new batteries on the same trip, as swap-outs are done. If a battery fails who has to pay for it, the truckie?

system already works in Taiwan (and others?) with scooter batteries.

Legally no different from a swap-n-go gas bottle ?

Mater
October 30, 2022 12:34 pm

Is there nothing Grogarly isn’t an expert on? Northern territory policing, marginal area farming, medicine, law ?

Given what he does to the backpackers in his basement, I’m sure it’s beneficial to have a rudimentary working knowledge on all those subjects.

duncanm
duncanm
October 30, 2022 12:34 pm

Farmer Gezsays:
October 30, 2022 at 10:19 am
You can rebuild a truck motor but what happens to electric motors?
I’ve heard of re-spinning small electric motors.

MTBF for a brushless DC motor is so long that rebuilds are not required. The first thing to fail would be the bearings.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
October 30, 2022 12:35 pm

Another thing I noticed in Ireland was the age of the vehicle fleet, most cars there are only a few years old on average and there are a considerable number of VWs, Mercedes, Audis and BMWs on the road. The Volkswagen-Audi Group must be super pleased with its market share, apparently Skoda is the top selling brand. Driving into Athlone, a rural city of around 25,000, I was amazed at the size of the Audi dealership, it was as big as the one in Canberra.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2022 12:35 pm

rosiesays:

October 30, 2022 at 11:39 am

I will transition when price and reliability are on par with ICE that includes at least a seven year warranty including batteries.

My issue is range.
And the decay of range through the life of the vehicle.
I would need 800km range to get to Melbourne and back without plugging in.
If someone advertises a car with a range of 900-1,000 km my question is what range it might have after 60,000 km and 500 charging cycles.
Of course, if charging stations are plentiful, and I can stop for a 15 minute coffee break and put 200km worth in the battery without queuing … maybe.
But yeah, the decision would be based on efficacy and cost for me, not saving the planet.

duncanm
duncanm
October 30, 2022 12:39 pm

memsays:
October 30, 2022 at 11:55 am
EXCLUSIVE: Two Far-Right Websites Attributed to David DePape to Smear Conservatives Were FABRICATED – They Were Created Friday and Deleted Saturday

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/10/exclusive-two-far-right-websites-attributed-david-depape-fabricated-created-friday-deleted-today/

yup. The wordpress blog is archived on wayback machine. Sat through Sunday, only. Go have a loo, and it is the fakest fake imaginable.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2022 12:41 pm

On electric trucks.
Would there be one monster electric motor, or would it be more based on the rail loco model?
That is, large central source of power driving multiple electric traction motors in each bogey?
That would save a lot of drivetrain weight (offset by heavy batteries of course).

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2022 12:41 pm

Gez – In reading the various accounts of aged Mr Pelosi’s, um, exploits it made me think of Epstein and his island. If these people get up to such stuff at home what were they doing when they really let their hair down?

Declines and falls of empires do seem to go hand in hand with debauchery. And the Dems really are into debauchery in a seriously rampant way, it appears.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 30, 2022 12:42 pm

memsays:
October 30, 2022 at 11:55 am
EXCLUSIVE: Two Far-Right Websites Attributed to David DePape to Smear Conservatives Were FABRICATED – They Were Created Friday and Deleted Saturday

Don’t tell m0nty-fa, he is already blaming RWNJs for the incident.

duncanm
duncanm
October 30, 2022 12:43 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
October 30, 2022 at 12:41 pm
On electric trucks.
Would there be one monster electric motor,

why not the same model as cars – electric motor at each wheel.

For a truck, it may make sense to put them in the trailer – ditto some of the battery, with the control up in the prime mover.

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 12:43 pm

And here is a joke that JC and Mrs Stencho Pantyhose will not read or comment on…………LOL

A man is dining in a fancy restaurant and there is a gorgeous redhead sitting at the next table. He has been checking her out since he sat down, but lacks the nerve to talk with her.

Suddenly she sneezes and her glass eye comes flying out of its socket towards the man. He reflexively reaches out, grabs it out of the air and hands it back.

“Oh my, I am sooo sorry” the woman says as she pops her eye back in place.

“Would you let me buy your dinner to make it up to you?” she says. Smitten, he says yes.

They enjoy a wonderful dinner together, and afterwards they go to the theater. Then they have drinks. They talk, they laugh, they share their deepest dreams.

She listens. After paying for everything, she asks him if he would like to come to her place for a nightcap…and stay for breakfast the next morning.

The next morning, she cooks a gourmet breakfast. The guy is amazed!! Everything had been incredible!!!! He is drawn to praise her. “You know” he said “you are the perfect woman. Are you this nice to every guy you meet?”

“Oh heavens no…” she replies “you just happened to catch my eye”.

Makka
Makka
October 30, 2022 12:46 pm

(BHP doesn’t bother to extract the REE.)

BHP are flat out turning a profit from the massive investments plowed into copper that they mine at OD, let alone going after the REE and forking out the additional investment that will require. So perhaps, when REE prices become sufficiently lucrative to BHP at a much higher price point, MAYBE that REE will get some attention. Until then REE prices will do as the market demands. From the 2020 low, Neodymium is up around 165%, after coming off the recent peak in Feb. Now on the rise since August.

calli
calli
October 30, 2022 12:46 pm

Thanks for your comments, rugbyskier. The Climate Catastrophe is an article of faith in the UK. It is now welded in.

Many will have to suffer before the light dawns, and even then it will most likely be “Putin’s fault”. They’ll be burying frozen corpses and hacking boughs from the trees to burn before they admit they got it wrong.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2022 12:49 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:

October 30, 2022 at 12:19 pm

Ashley Chandrasinghe. 102 not out and still going, on debut.

And off 300+ balls.
That is the sort of patience the Test side needs.
If only he would change his name to Ashley Chamberlain or something.
With a lid on we could pretend he was a real “schnitzel eating Aussie”.

Apologies for talking crickit while this once proud nation of strong white men goes to hell in a handbasket.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 30, 2022 12:50 pm

Great article over at Daily Mail about Zuckerberg. Seems he has lost 3/4 of his fortune in last year thanks to his Metaverse idea which is not working.

Makka
Makka
October 30, 2022 12:54 pm

They’ll be burying frozen corpses and hacking boughs from the trees to burn before they admit they got it wrong.

________________________________________

Almost 10,000 people died in England and Wales in 2021 because their homes were too cold, according to the NHS.31 Aug 2022

How many more deaths until enough is enough? Or perhaps because most are elderly it’s like “oh well”.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 12:54 pm

So it happened organically then? No worries on that score.

Yeah, it did. Mentioning it again is a little redundant though. Is that some hidden point you’re trying to make?

Unlike you I do not go around blowing my own trumpet, your MO is getting very tired.

I’m not blowing anything. I’ll defend my argument if I think I’m right though, just like you have in the past. You’re just as bad actor- usually coming in at the very end of a discussion and hanging your Akruba on some irrelevant point. That’s how I see your contribution or lack of it.

$7k? – No

Okay, then why mention fucking subsidies then when all car manufacturers are subsidized and protected? Did you even have a point?

The ev subsidies may be the first time in history where an inherent inefficiency is subsidised.

Explain how it’s inefficient. Just because it doesn’t suit you doesn’t mean it doesn’t suit others. If people are buying these things, it’s not really your concern then is it? Furthermore, the subsidy isn’t exactly eye-popping so stop over-egging this omelette.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2022 1:02 pm

For a truck, it may make sense to put them in the trailer – ditto some of the battery, with the control up in the prime mover.

Duncanm.
Yes.
There is no drivetrain as we know it, so the application of power can be at each wheel (or bogey or axle).
Just thinking, with a few smarts added, a driver could unhitch an entire trailer at a warehouse or dock and leave, and yard staff could remotely drive the trailer to a loading dock using the battery pack and individual bogey motors.
Yes, I am paid by Klaus to be a shill for Big EV.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2022 1:04 pm

Makka – A hundred million capital and they could be producing about 10,000 tpa of REE in concentrate about a year from now. If they wanted to.

Makka
Makka
October 30, 2022 1:05 pm

Just thinking, with a few smarts added, a driver could unhitch an entire trailer at a warehouse or dock and leave, and yard staff could remotely drive the trailer to a loading dock using the battery pack and individual bogey motors.

Million dollar trailers might not get an enthusiastic uptake. That’s why legislation will be necessary.

2dogs
October 30, 2022 1:06 pm

Now that Elon Musk owns Twitter, Jack Dorsey has started working on what really needs to be done to fix social media: moving the social graph into the public domain.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 1:07 pm

Bush

Maybe it’s you that ought to display a little fucking humility fathmouthing about a technology application you appear to dislike and running around looking for excuses to dislike it even more.

Here’s what you need to hang your oversized Akruba on. Tesla was a tera- cap meaning, the market valued the company at over a trillion dollars. It’s now valued at US$720 billion, falling like other tech companies in recent times.

You accused me of blowing my own trumpet, but in fact it’s you doing so because at least I’m humble enough to take account of the stock market placing a trillion dollar value of tesla which means it’s worth possibly more than every other car company combined. So yeah, I think there is something in EVs and I’m not prepared to dismiss it or take account of a cow poke telling me and others it’s all bullshit. You’re bullshit, not the market, not Tesla and not Musk.

local oaf
October 30, 2022 1:08 pm

How many more deaths until enough is enough? Or perhaps because most are elderly it’s like “oh well”.

Mandatory jabs – must save granny at all costs.

Household heating – must save planet at all costs.

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 1:09 pm

Makkasays:
October 30, 2022 at 12:46 pm
(BHP doesn’t bother to extract the REE.)

BHP are flat out turning a profit from the massive investments plowed into copper that they mine at OD, let alone going after the REE and forking out the additional investment that will require. So perhaps, when REE prices become sufficiently lucrative to BHP at a much higher price point, MAYBE that REE will get some attention. Until then REE prices will do as the market demands. From the 2020 low, Neodymium is up around 165%, after coming off the recent peak in Feb. Now on the rise since August.

BHP and RIO and many others are cash cows at the moment. Get those dividends now…………….

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 30, 2022 1:12 pm

Well, I now have a pic of a gun-toting Secret Service man, or is that paid security, not liking what I am doing and indicating with his deadly weapon move on, move on, or else I ask questions later. We are outside Mar-a-Lago of course, so there is some validity in them being suspicious of a huge dark SUV with shady windows stopping slowly for a decco while some madwoman next to the driver is filming furiously across him from the driver’s side window. Still, although clearly not welcomed I did manage to get a few pics of the main building and the spot where the FBI parked and the security guy is brandishing his gun, which I will send to Cassie. Hairy thinks she would like to see it as his profile looks rather dashing behind the wheel there.

Mar-a-Lago is in Palm Beach of course, which is the wealthiest place in America. It is like driving through the latest iteration of the Railroad Barons of the Gilded Age sporting it in Newport in the 1880’s to see the supremely oversized Spanish-influenced mansions that grace The Donald as neighbours in this show of wealth and power. On the way in to the outer banks of this place you can see moored a disparate team of show-off motor cruisers akin to the one used for Rogan Roy, the Murdoch character in succession. Mar-a-Lago actually also contains within the extensive grounds a private club, with a flag fall of US $200,000 for membership, so Hairy and I thought we wouldn’t stay there after all. lol. Instead we’ve ended up near Cape Canaveral at Cocoa Beach, where we are enjoying a funky beachfront residence, so cutesy and in a glorious spot, costing far more than it should, but where the coffee machine defeats me and the TV doesn’t work. The management will hear from us about that tomorrow. 🙂

As we turned out of Palm Beach onto Highway 98 again on our way up to Canaveral we needed a quick lunch, so went in search out a fast food joint, preferably Makkas. As with most of these American off-highway signs, it was a considerable drive to find any joint at all, so we opted for the first we saw, a Wendy’s. As we parked and headed for the entrance I was taken back because it looked rather beaten up, and I’m thinking maybe this is the back way in. But no, it was where you went in and the inside was worse – no tables cleaned, only one doped-out black woman at a table, a few other quite shady looking black loiterers wandering in and out, otherwise empty, and a group of African-American people behind the counter, mostly talking amongst themselves. The toilets were putrid. Hairy ordered and our meals were mostly inedible, my chicken avocado and salad probably a case for the health department. I sat down gingerly at the sticky table and Hairy arrived bearing our food saying lightly – served with a scowl – adding that he thought we were not exactly welcome here. We tossed most of the meal in the bin and Hairy said we’d better get out of there as something was brewing and it wasn’t coffee: they don’t serve it. Odd activities in the car park. That franchisee should be closed down, we agreed, but we did think it seemed in African-American ownership, and that maybe the Company wasn’t game to meet the cries of racism if anything was done to change things.

And that was America for us today. We thought it was pretty instructive of the times, in that these people just couldn’t care less about the job they were doing and how they might have been affecting the brand. Contrast to the caring waitress in the Cheers-type pub where we had a meal tonight.

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 1:15 pm

JCsays:
October 30, 2022 at 1:07 pm
Bush

Maybe it’s you that ought to display a little fucking humility fathmouthing about a technology application you appear to dislike and running around looking for excuses to dislike it even more.

Here’s what you need to hang your oversized Akruba on. Tesla was a tera- cap meaning, the market valued the company at over a trillion dollars. It’s now valued at US$720 billion, falling like other tech companies in recent times.

You accused me of blowing my own trumpet, but in fact it’s you doing so because at least I’m humble enough to take account of the stock market placing a trillion dollar value of tesla which means it’s worth possibly more than every other car company combined. So yeah, I think there is something in EVs and I’m not prepared to dismiss it or take account of a cow poke telling me and others it’s all bullshit. You’re bullshit, not the market, not Tesla and not Musk.

More BS from JC the EV Guru………………………

Electric Cars are toast and will not work in a World that does not support hydrocarbon fuels. You are the delusional fuel (fool)………………………………….

Tosser.

Makka
Makka
October 30, 2022 1:19 pm

Bruce, BHP’s investment in OD (copper) is in the billions and it struggles. The appetite isn’t there for REE at OD and won’t be for a very long time.

Lynus is a 7Bill cap company producing around 6-7,000 tpa currently. 100 mill for 10,000 tpa even at OD is not nearly enough. Just a plant in plant in USA to get around 4kta costs them more 120 mill US. You are severely low balling the capital costs thresholds again.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 30, 2022 1:20 pm

Canaveral tomorrow. NASA are planning now to land the first woman and the first person of colour on the moon. They could do that in a two-for-one, imo. They don’t say when.

Completely obsessed with diversity and identity, mutters Hairy.

Makka
Makka
October 30, 2022 1:23 pm

BHP and RIO and many others are cash cows at the moment. Get those dividends now…………….

I’ll wait thanks. BHP was down over 4% Friday in NY and i/o collapsed 15% last week. With a lot more to come yet. They will eventually be very juicy, but I’ll not cop a 15-20% draw down for an 8% div.

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 1:25 pm

local oafsays:
October 30, 2022 at 1:08 pm
How many more deaths until enough is enough? Or perhaps because most are elderly it’s like “oh well”.

Mandatory jabs – must save granny at all costs.

Household heating – must save planet at all costs.

This Planet Earth has been around for over 4 Billion Years. And these idiots think that a bit of warming will destroy the place? As in The Castle, tell them that “they are dreaming “(or on drugs).

Tell JC as well as he has NFI…………………………….

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2022 1:28 pm

Lizzie – Excellent stuff. It’d be awesome if you are on a boat east of Canaveral when Elon lights the wick on his Falcon Heavy. Which is due Tuesday.

The Wendy’s sounds like something out of Kurt Schlichter’s books! Fun that their famous ad has become reality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpypTXccG2I

m0nty
m0nty
October 30, 2022 1:29 pm

The wordpress blog is archived on wayback machine. Sat through Sunday, only. Go have a loo, and it is the fakest fake imaginable.

The Hofts are the dumbest men on the Internet.

Just because the Wayback Machine didn’t archive it doesn’t mean it didn’t exist before people started linking to it. If no one links to it, the spiders don’t know it is there. That’s how the Web works. You idiots.

132andBush
132andBush
October 30, 2022 1:31 pm

JC
Would Tesla exist as they do now if ev subsidies didn’t?

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 1:34 pm

Makkasays:
October 30, 2022 at 1:23 pm
BHP and RIO and many others are cash cows at the moment. Get those dividends now…………….

I’ll wait thanks. BHP was down over 4% Friday in NY and i/o collapsed 15% last week. With a lot more to come yet. They will eventually be very juicy, but I’ll not cop a 15-20% draw down for an 8% div.

I agree but they are are still great companies to buy into and hold. Top up at good prices is always the way to go. Now, where are my crystal balls? As the lovely Gypsy Lady asked me…………………….lol

Not a Benny Hill joke JC and Mrs Stencho Pantyhose and all of my own work.

Not that either of you have a sense of humour…………………………….

calli
calli
October 30, 2022 1:35 pm

I’m off to Norway at the end of next year. Like the little Antarctic penguin, it’s the Northern Lights or bust.

Just spotted in a recent magazine article:

“It’s very impressive when you can say this melting ice is 5,000 years old, and this is the only moment in the last 7,000 years that the ice has been retreating,” Albert Hafner, an archaeologist at the University of Bernsays Hafner, told Archaeology. “Ice is the most emotional way to show climate change.”

This person is a scientist. Anyone with a functioning synapse can spot the pachyderm in the corner just in that little paragraph (apart from trying to emotionalise a theory to make it more believable).

And just to clarify, it’s man-made cc being pushed. The magazine name says it all.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2022 1:37 pm

Bruce, BHP’s investment in OD (copper) is in the billions and it struggles. The appetite isn’t there for REE at OD and won’t be for a very long time.

Makka – Yes, BHP likes big things. REE would be the fourth priority after copper, gold and uranium. But it’s money being pissed into the tailings dam every day. If a compelling case arises they will act on it, I suspect. All the necessary process data has been accumulated long ago.

Gabor
Gabor
October 30, 2022 1:38 pm

duncann

Legally no different from a swap-n-go gas bottle ?

I would say there is a huge difference there.
The gas bottle will always take the same amount of gas, not so the batteries, depending on age and # of recharge.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 1:40 pm

All I can say about last nights stoush (other than 240 to 630 k is NOT a 260% increase) is that the range of an EV is not a good indicator of improving battery tech. Many other factors come into play including aerodynamics, electric motor and drive train efficiencies, weight, etc, but the biggest factor is battery size.

All those things come into play, but let me ask you, have you seen any major aerodynamic changes to Tesla sedans since they first come onto to the market to now? I haven’t. The other models like the large and smaller SUV appear to lose aerodynamics. So it’s not that. The electric motor saw an improvement? Possibly, but electric motors are very basic and the changes wouldn’t be game changing. So where has the additional range come from? Weight? Wouldn’t battery innovation be a huge factor in reducing weight.

The first production Tesla had a range of 393km (not 240K) and used a 53kWh battery.

Okay.

In 2008 Tesla Motors released its first car, the completely electric Roadster. In company tests, it achieved 245 miles (394 km) on a single charge, a range unprecedented for a production electric car.

I confused K and miles.

The latest Teslas (which are supposedly tapping 640km range) use a 100kWh battery. I’m sure gains in efficiency have been achieved (just as sure as the fact that these ‘efficiency increases’ will hit a brick wall – something that even Tesla admits), but raw size matters when it comes to range, as do all the other factors.

With up to 652 kilometers of estimated range and access to the world’s largest and most powerful fast charging network, you’ll spend less time plugged in and more time on the road.

That’s 165% improvement and not something to sneeze at.

It’s not all about battery chemistry with EV range, in fact, it seems that very little of it is. If people are going to argue strictly about the improvement battery tech (or lack thereof), ‘vehicle’ range is not the appropriate unit of measure. Energy density might be a start.

And energy density is not an innovation in battery technology? Really?

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 30, 2022 1:40 pm

Apparently old man pelosi was friendly with the nudist and an argument about payment developed

Calm down, Mr. Sulu.
It’s totes about the MidTerms, but the SF Cops weren’t in the loop.
So, being Cops, they invented some Evidence, to wit:
Mr. Nancy and Spooky Dave in their undercrackers.
Not everything is about BumSex, Mr. Sulu!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2022 1:42 pm

It’s actually rather odd: Olympic Dam as a REE deposit is nearly 10 times bigger than the next biggest, yet BHP seems completely disinterested. Admittedly the deposit is light REE rather than the favoured heavies, but the infrastructure is already in place. And neodymium is a light REE. So it would be a brownfields project not greenfield.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 1:42 pm

132andBush says:
October 30, 2022 at 1:31 pm

JC
Would Tesla exist as they do now if ev subsidies didn’t?

Yes. The subsidies aren’t significant as you yourself attested.

rickw
rickw
October 30, 2022 1:44 pm

Mandatory jabs – must save granny at all costs.

Household heating – must save planet at all costs.

You are disposable with respect to the current “thing”.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 30, 2022 1:45 pm

oversized Akubra.

Millinery insults.
A new fashion for the Spring Carnival.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 1:48 pm

Groogs, got anything on grassy knolls?

Makka
Makka
October 30, 2022 1:52 pm

yet BHP seems completely disinterested.

If you have been to OD it becomes clear. They are still trying to get the copper reasonably profitable there. It’s been a clusterfk of a ug mine from the beginning. They smelt on site so the power costs are horrendous.

But the potential to change is there. If copper goes ballistic (highly possible) the open pit plans may be resurrected and then it becomes a very different ball game.

rickw
rickw
October 30, 2022 1:54 pm

EV’s versus IC’s.

There’s a lot of stoushing on this for no reason.

The only real problem here is that a bunch of fucking idiots in Canberra have signalled their intent to dictate peoples choice in the matter, with their usual degree of knowledge and insight.

We are governed by people who think that they have a right to interfere in every aspect of our lives, and who are also complete fucking idiots.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 1:55 pm

Ford motors market Cap US$ 13 billion
GM Market Cap US$55 billion
Mercedes Mar Cap US$ 65 billion (converted from Euro to US)
Toyota mar cap US$ 191 billion
Stellantis US$ 43 billion

Total US$ 367 billion

Tesla is $720 billion market cap = almost double…

Lets ignore it the absolute enormous difference in valuation with Tesla is worth double the rest of the gang because a couple of cowpokes and regionals on Catallaxy are saying EVs are shit. They’re and the market is completely wrong. The Fuck!

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 1:57 pm

Rickw, it’s all blowharding by governments. If the phase out appears to be problematic and it is, they will hightail out of the commitment faster than a jackrabbit.

Makka
Makka
October 30, 2022 1:57 pm

Top up at good prices is always the way to go.

Well obviously.

A “good price” in BHP will emerge after China’s RE stops imploding and copper prices stabilize. Next year I suspect.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 1:59 pm

I forgot BMW.

Mar Cap US$55 billion. This would dilute the stats above by a small smidgen only.

dopey
dopey
October 30, 2022 1:59 pm

The Guardian talking down the Melbourne Cup….the office sweep must be a hoot.

cohenite
October 30, 2022 2:00 pm

Just because the Wayback Machine didn’t archive it doesn’t mean it didn’t exist before people started linking to it. If no one links to it, the spiders don’t know it is there. That’s how the Web works. You idiots.

Is dickless talking about known unknowns or unknown knowns?

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 2:00 pm

rewrite

Lets ignore it the absolute enormous difference in valuation with Tesla worth double the rest of the gang because a couple of cowpokes and regionals on Catallaxy are saying EVs are shit. They’re right and the market is completely wrong. The Fuck!

rickw
rickw
October 30, 2022 2:01 pm

Rickw, it’s all blowharding by governments. If the phase out appears to be problematic and it is, they will hightail out of the commitment faster than a jackrabbit.

I have no doubt they will double back, just a matter of how much government and corporates extract from the average punter during this wankfest.

cohenite
October 30, 2022 2:02 pm

Not everything is about BumSex, Mr. Sulu!

If you say so crotchless.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 2:04 pm

I have no doubt they will double back, just a matter of how much government and corporates extract from the average punter during this wankfest.

A pal was here a few weeks ago and he’s on the board of a major energy company. He was saying that you just cannot believe the pressure employees and the board are being put under -that they’re more evil than satan.

Winston Smith
October 30, 2022 2:05 pm

Cassie O’Sydney:

Further to the Iranian revolution of 1979…it is a fact that the overthrow of the Shah was due to an unholy alliance between leftists and Islamists, which began in the mid 1970s and fomented unrest in 1977 and 1978. The left thought that once the Shah was overthrown they’d then be able to dispense with the mullahs and control the country. But it didn’t work out that way, did it? The ayatollahs seized power under Khomeini and one of their first acts, after cleansing the country of Shah loyalists, was to deal with the leftists. It was brutal, with mass executions.

I have to admit I laughed when that happened. The Marxists were so sure they were the bigboys on the block – one can almost visualise the incomprehension on their faces as they faced down the machine guns of the Ayatollahs…

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 2:06 pm

If only they had a few mils of iodine to calm down in front of a firing squad.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2022 2:07 pm

If you have been to OD it becomes clear.

Forty two degrees when I got a tour of a certain part of site that I wanted to see. Filipina lady metallurgist took me around. The first fun bit was when I asked how the operators controlled the process, since at our site the guys did their own titrations and worked off the results. She said to me “See him?” She was pointing towards one of the operators. “His last job was in an abattoir.” “Oh, ah, yes.” say I. Trying to find people to work in a miserably hot desert ain’t easy, you get what you get.

After some hours (I was having fun) Filipina metallurgist lady asks “can we go inside now”. Her face looked like a tomato from clambering around the gantryways in the heat. I have tropical genes so wasn’t phased, and I wanted to see and understand everything. When we got back to the cribroom, which was frigid at maybe 20 C, she collapsed in a chair like a melting icecream cone. She was a fine tour guide!

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 30, 2022 2:09 pm

Nothing on Grassy Knolls, but, unless someone ‘fesses up, I think I may have inadvertently upticked my comment at 1:40 pm.
Sorry about that.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2022 2:11 pm

Next day was 45 C. I drove past the local footy field, which was bare red dirt covered in stones. OD people are tough as.

Makka
Makka
October 30, 2022 2:12 pm

“His last job was in an abattoir.”

It’s a good deal worse underground.

Indolent
Indolent
October 30, 2022 2:12 pm
JC
JC
October 30, 2022 2:14 pm

It’s a good deal worse underground.

How so?

Indolent
Indolent
October 30, 2022 2:16 pm

Reporter Caught On Hot Mic Revealing Strange New Details emerging On Paul Pelosi Attack

Commentator Wayne Dupree offers his take on these questions:

There’s something really weird about this Paul Pelosi attack story. Nothing is adding up. But one thing we do know is that the so-called “intruder” is some hippy-dippy dude from Berkeley who sells hemp bracelets and used to belong to a nudist colony. So, they’ll be really hard-pressed to blame this on a Trump supporter. But this story is bizarre, Fox News just reporter confirmed that the hippy guy was in his underwear when police arrived.

Now, before the media realized the “intruder” was a nudist hemp hippy from Berkely, they were breathlessly reporting on this story, suggesting it was a “political attack.” Blue checks on Twitter were sure it was a MEGA MAGA bad guy and were already celebrating. But alas, it’s a nude hippy who loves Castro and hates war.

So, when a reporter was discussing the case with his boss right after the SFO police press conference, he checked with him to see if he was allowed to bring up the “nudist” or any of that “stuff,” and the boss apparently said “no.”

I don’t know if you can find a more perfect example of fake news or propaganda media than this. This reporter knows the “game” so well, that he double-checks with his boss about the “liberal hippy stuff” before he reports the facts… that’s right because facts always take a backseat to progressive propaganda.

Makka
Makka
October 30, 2022 2:17 pm

Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
The people who work for the newspaper owned by Jeff Bezos and who write for the magazine controlled and funded by Laurene Powell Jobs are very worried this morning about the unprecedented crisis we face of billionaires buying and controlling the flow of news and information.

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1585982835155869697

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 2:20 pm

Housework was a woman’s job, but one evening, Janice arrived home from work to find the children bathed, one load of laundry in the washer and another in the dryer. Dinner was on the stove, and the table set. She was astonished! It turns out that Dave had read an article that said, “Wives who work full-time and had to do their own housework were too tired to have sex”. The night went very well. The next day, Janice told her friends all about it. “We had a great dinner. Dave even cleaned up the kitchen. He helped the kids do their homework, folded all the laundry and put it away. I really enjoyed the evening.” “But what about afterward?” asked her friends. “Oh, that… Dave was too tired!”

Indolent
Indolent
October 30, 2022 2:21 pm
Makka
Makka
October 30, 2022 2:22 pm

How so?

Inexperienced operators wrecking equipment (fixed and mobile), which ensures productions misses and /or increased capital costs.

Inability to make stick and execute a mineplan.

Manpower turnover.

Constant changes to the strategy of mining the resource.

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 2:23 pm

No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.

– Abraham Lincoln

Indolent
Indolent
October 30, 2022 2:23 pm

I lost much of my respect for him when they used draconian measures to push the jab. It started under him.

Netanyahu Poised to Be Elected for Third Time as Prime Minister

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 2:24 pm

Elon Musk plans to carry out mass Twitter layoffs as soon as TODAY in order to deny employees stock grants that were scheduled for dispersal Tuesday

I don’t buy that. It’s likely to be fake news. Twitter was privatized on Friday. Stock grants under the old arrangement and rules (public vs private company) no longer apply. Someone is just angry with Musk.
This doesn’t mean existing stock grants wouldn’t be met.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 30, 2022 2:24 pm

Almost 10,000 people died in England and Wales in 2021 because their homes were too cold, according to the NHS.31 Aug 2022

How many more deaths until enough is enough? Or perhaps because most are elderly it’s like “oh well”.

Unfortunately it is very much “oh well”. Excess deaths during winter have always been a thing in the UK.

In the smoggy 1950’s and 1960’s – courtesy of open coal fires and steam locomotives – average winter excess deaths amongst infants and the elderly ran at well over 50,000. Mostly from respiratory problems.

It’s now mainly ‘energy poverty’ killing the Pom elderly – and the numbers are likely well above 10,000.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 2:25 pm

Okay thanks makka.

Indolent
Indolent
October 30, 2022 2:25 pm
Mater
October 30, 2022 2:25 pm

All those things come into play, but let me ask you, have you seen any major aerodynamic changes to Tesla sedans since they first come onto to the market to now?

Way to focus on the minor issue.
When you can honestly interpret what I’m saying, can use the correct units (instead of Kelvin) and convert miles to kilometres, come and have a scientific debate with me.

Meanwhile, I’ve got better things to waste my time on than listening to you justify your mistakes and misconceptions.

Winston Smith
October 30, 2022 2:27 pm

Cassie of Sydney:

Even today, the guards aren’t made up of young spotty men eager for some military service, they’re indoctrinated, hard core, battle hardened cultish, mercenary Islamic ideologues, many have fought in Iraq, Yemen, Syria and Lebanon, their tentacles are all over the ME, fomenting Islamic radicalism.

Israel knows this – they’ve absorbed the lessons learn since the Lebanese were stupid enough to accept the ‘refugees’ from Black September and then lost control of their own country.
Other nations are slowly working out that you invite Islam into your society at major risk to yourself, but slowly – too slowly.
Remember when Lebanon was the Jewel of the East?
Not any more. It’s just anther shithole now, mired in a slow burning civil war, with hungry and frightened civilians over run with fanatics who are eager to create yet another Paradise on Earth on the piled skulls of their enemies…

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 30, 2022 2:30 pm

Ed Casesays:
October 30, 2022 at 11:10 am

Also some doubt about the Gay angle, now DePape has been IDed as a Right Wing Kook.

EXCLUSIVE: Two Far-Right Websites Attributed to David DePape to Smear Conservatives Were FABRICATED – They Were Created Friday and Deleted Saturday

The mainstream media attributed two websites to the man arrested with Paul Pelosi on early Friday morning, David DePape. However, this all appears to be another far-left farce.

David DePape was found with Paul Pelosi early Friday morning in his underwear at the Pelosi home by police in San Francisco. The mainstream media immediately tried to cover for the Pelosi family. They then attempted to align the man in his underwear found with Paul Pelosi as a conservative. But it was all a lie.

There are numerous questions related to this case already.

In addition, the media tried to frame DePape as a conservative based on websites that were reportedly his. DePape was homeless and a drug addict but the media insisted he was running a conservative website? Makes perfect sense.

– FOX News reported on the websites reportedly connected to DePape:

– The LA Times also reported as well on the websites.

The problem is the websites cited by the mainstream media that were supposedly aligned with DePape were created yesterday and they are no longer active today.

The Pelosis must be scared for people to know the truth about what was happening in their mansion in San Francisco early on Friday morning.

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 2:31 pm

EV’s will never work and the so called transition will never work as there is nothing to transition to except for a big black hole. Hydrocarbons rule OK.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 30, 2022 2:33 pm

Traveller fined, deported after bringing 6kg of meat from foot and mouth disease-hit Indonesia to Perth
Rebecca Le MayThe West Australian
Sun, 30 October 2022 11:29AM
Comments

An Indonesian man has been slapped with a fine and deported after trying to bring a large amount of meat into Perth from the foot and mouth disease-hit country.

Biosecurity officers inspected the traveller’s bags at the airport and discovered 3.1kg of duck, 1.4kg of beef rendang, more than 500g of frozen beef and nearly 900g of chicken inside.

He’d failed to declare it, answering “no” on his incoming passenger card despite being specifically asked whether he was bringing any meat, poultry, fish, seafood, eggs, dairy, fruit or vegetables into Australia.

He told Australian Border Force officers he planned to sell the meat to members of the local community.

They cancelled his visa, sent him back to Indonesia and he was also fined $2664.

The products could have carried devastating biosecurity diseases such as FMD or African swine fever.

“This is why legislation is in place to cancel the visa of any traveller who commits a significant biosecurity breach or repeatedly contravenes biosecurity laws,” Home Affairs Minister Clare O’Neil said.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 2:35 pm

Way to focus on the minor issue.

It’s as major or minor as you want to make it. You mentioned potential aerodynamics improvements. With the advent of EV SUV I would say this minor or major factor (depending on how you want to treat it) has actually gone backwards in aggregate.

When you can honestly interpret what I’m saying, can use the correct units (instead of Kelvin) and convert miles to kilometres, come and have a scientific debate with me.

I’m quite happy to, but you may need to get off the high chair and explain exactly what I got wrong or didn’t understand. If you can’t then it’s just another example of bullshit blabbering disguising lack of an argument with chest thumping. Try it, it may work out for you.

Meanwhile, I’ve got better things to waste my time on than listening to you justify your mistakes and misconceptions.

Okay, but just before you go, seeing you have a busy schedule, can you explain how energy intensity isn’t a technological innovation in batteries as I’m more than a little confused with your lack of appreciation.
Let me know if you want me to paste the partial comment you made as it will hopefully prevent you from going with the old “you’re lying routine” that you seem to use quite often when caught in a pickle of your own making.

Winston Smith
October 30, 2022 2:37 pm

Indolent:
Can’t help myself but here’s my contribution to the weekends music festival – in memory of the FBI
https://youtu.be/CxgagXVqZZM

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 2:37 pm

Johnny Rotten says:
October 30, 2022 at 2:31 pm

EV’s will never work and the so called transition will never work as there is nothing to transition to except for a big black hole. Hydrocarbons rule OK.

Rodney, now that’s funny, but who made up the joke.

cohenite
October 30, 2022 2:39 pm

I have to admit I laughed when that happened. The Marxists were so sure they were the bigboys on the block – one can almost visualise the incomprehension on their faces as they faced down the machine guns of the Ayatollahs…

Nick Cohen wrote about this in What’s Left. The mullahs did a massive purge; not as large as the Nazis and the commies did with their useful idiots. One of the persistent defining characteristics of the left is their conviction they will not be harmed or bothered by the shit ideologies they espouse; cognitive dissonance writ large.

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 2:41 pm

“This is why legislation is in place to cancel the visa of any traveller who commits a significant biosecurity breach or repeatedly contravenes biosecurity laws,” Home Affairs Minister Clare O’Neil said.

I would have just dropped him/her/it off in a shark infested part of WA and filmed it it. Then posted the film of him/her/it being eaten alive onto Twatter or Farcebook or any of those other Wally places……………………

Welcome to Country………………………….lol

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 30, 2022 2:45 pm

To be fair to Paul Pelosi, if you woke up every morning next to the frightful skeleton, you could well be tempted by the samesex charms of a homeless, drug-addicted, schizoid with nudist tendencies.
Love is love.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2022 2:45 pm

H B Bearsays:

October 30, 2022 at 1:48 pm

Groogs, got anything on grassy knolls?

Brassy molls are more his thing.

Makka
Makka
October 30, 2022 2:50 pm

https://twitter.com/mailplus/status/1586387980616454144

EXCLUSIVE: Truss phone hacked by Putin spies for top secret information

Agents suspected of working for Vladimir Putin gained access to top-secret details of negotiations with key international allies – plus private messages exchanged with Kwasi Kwarteng
The device is so compromised it has been locked away in a secure government facility.

chris
@chris96516304
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7h
Replying to
@mailplus
Dick pics or nudes?

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 30, 2022 2:50 pm

The Pelosis must be scared for people to know the truth about what was happening in their mansion in San Francisco early on Friday morning.
C.L. has a pic on his site, it isn’t a mansion.
The story has unraveled a fair bit, so it’s hard to say what’s what, but Miles Mathis links De Pape with CIA and the guy looks too well groomed to be a homeless Gay hustler.
If it’s true that Pelosi was brained with a hammer, then there may be a Gay angle, but De Pape appears to be part of the coverup.

rickw
rickw
October 30, 2022 2:51 pm

“This is why legislation is in place to cancel the visa of any traveller who commits a significant biosecurity breach or repeatedly contravenes biosecurity laws,” Home Affairs Minister Clare O’Neil said.

Should have pretended to be an ISIS bride…..

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 2:51 pm

JCsays:
October 30, 2022 at 2:37 pm
Johnny Rotten says:
October 30, 2022 at 2:31 pm

EV’s will never work and the so called transition will never work as there is nothing to transition to except for a big black hole. Hydrocarbons rule OK.

Rodney, now that’s funny, but who made up the joke.

JC you are the Joke. Have fun with you and Mrs Stencho Pantyhose. And have fun driving your EV if you have one that is. Meanwhile I will continue to have fun with my V8 non EV motor vehicle.

Hydrocarbons rule OK. Along with Nuclear…………………..

Winston Smith
October 30, 2022 2:56 pm

Duncanm:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1584672974728110080
Communists hate being held to the standard they demand of everyone else. And I think the diversity hire has had enough.
If she doesn’t resign within a week, I’ll eat my MAGA hat.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 2:59 pm

Rodney Rottenhead

And have fun driving your EV if you have one that is.

I don’t have one, but almost pulled the trigger.

Meanwhile I will continue to have fun with my V8 non EV motor vehicle.

Unless you have a 5 litre V8 like I do, then stop grandstanding. Rodney, stick to spamming the site with stolen jokes hoping everyone will think you’re a funny guy. Well actually no, just stop and go away.

2dogs
October 30, 2022 3:06 pm

It’s the teals who are wrong.

The Teals happened because the Libs didn’t support nuclear power. Without nuclear, the Libs have no credibility on climate change. This is the case regardless of what emissions target they say they will pursue.

MatrixTransform
October 30, 2022 3:11 pm

Yep, 32V, kerosene engine and a huge battery bank

ok, now I’m intrigued

I never heard of this before now

any idea what the electro-chemistry involved was ?

Winston Smith
October 30, 2022 3:13 pm

Zipster:
https://www.engadget.com/james-webb-space-telescope-pillars-of-creation-space-miri-163527776.html
Many, many upticks for that link to the James Webb “Pillars of Creation” site.

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 3:13 pm

JCsays:
October 30, 2022 at 2:59 pm
Rodney Rottenhead

And have fun driving your EV if you have one that is.

I don’t have one, but almost pulled the trigger.

Meanwhile I will continue to have fun with my V8 non EV motor vehicle.

Unless you have a 5 litre V8 like I do, then stop grandstanding. Rodney, stick to spamming the site with stolen jokes hoping everyone will think you’re a funny guy. Well actually no, just stop and go away.

Jerky Crusty (JC) I will stay here as long as I like and with Free Speech being my guide as well. Thank you Dover and you do put up with a lot of moaners. Meanwhile you, the Crusty Shite, can go and stew in your own vitriol. Happy Days for many of us.

There is no such thing as a stolen joke but then again maybe you are a stolen joke…………………..lol

Just STFU and stick to what you are good at which is what I am not too sure of. Maybe bellyaching……………You Tosser.

m0nty
m0nty
October 30, 2022 3:14 pm

It is too late to shift to nukes now anyway, doggie. That won’t get you anywhere near the current 2030/35 targets. We have faffed around for too long.

For this reason, anyone pushing nukes in Australia is not serious at all.

Winston Smith
October 30, 2022 3:16 pm

Mem:

Only 8% of eastern states energy is being generated by wind. No solar of course as it is night time. And South Australia our “leading” state for renewable energy is importing more than half its electricity from Victoria which is primarily coal fired. What happens when Vic’s coal generators are closed?

The government will bludge off Queensland and blame us for not keeping up with their needs.

rickw
rickw
October 30, 2022 3:19 pm

any idea what the electro-chemistry involved was ?

The battery bank is long gone, but the engine and generator are still there.

I believe the cells were lead-acid, which is why they needed topping up with distilled water.

It was almost certainly a standard setup that could be purchased. The whole installation and the equipment were pretty professional in appearance.

As Gez highlighted in his initial post on this, the standard voltage seems to have been 32V DC. Enough power to run useful things even if the installation was in an outbuilding as ours was.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 30, 2022 3:19 pm

The Teals happened because the Libs didn’t support nuclear power.
No serious Polling shows much support for Nuclear Power.
Here’s a few facts:
1. Labor is the only Party that can introduce Nuclear Power.
Would they do it?
They’ll do whatever the fuck they like in Government.
2. No Party is ever likely to put Nuclear in their Manifesto because, there’s not much support for it out there.

2dogs
October 30, 2022 3:21 pm

It is too late to shift to nukes now anyway, doggie. That won’t get you anywhere near the current 2030/35 targets. We have faffed around for too long.

Old argument.

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 3:22 pm

m0ntysays:
October 30, 2022 at 3:14 pm
It is too late to shift to nukes now anyway, doggie. That won’t get you anywhere near the current 2030/35 targets. We have faffed around for too long.

For this reason, anyone pushing nukes in Australia is not serious at all.

Montypox Virus that is a rubbish comment. Take your head out of your arse and think a bit. Well maybe you can’t…………………..lol

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 30, 2022 3:24 pm

It is too late to shift to nukes now anyway, doggie. That won’t get you anywhere near the current 2030/35 targets. We have faffed around for too long.

This is quite true.

For this reason, anyone pushing nukes in Australia is not serious at all.

This bit is way less true.

Lost in the renewables debate is the fun fact that most of the generation and storage infrastructure has a limited and non-extendable operating life. So much of the several hundred $billion going out of the door over the next 10 years, is going to be repeated every 10-15 years thereafter.

Gabor
Gabor
October 30, 2022 3:24 pm

MatrixTransform says:
October 30, 2022 at 3:11 pm

Yep, 32V, kerosene engine and a huge battery bank

ok, now I’m intrigued
I never heard of this before now
any idea what the electro-chemistry involved was ?

Unless you are trying to be funny, you must be a young city slicker.
32 Volt generators were the norm and storage batteries for the times the genset was off.
I remember even in the 1980s ex PMG batteries were highly sought after items, I myself put in a bid or two, getting one lot that lasted nearly 5 years.

I’m sure they are still being auctioned off from Telecom regularly.

2dogs
October 30, 2022 3:26 pm

No serious Polling shows much support for Nuclear Power.

False. Maybe you don’t consider Essential Media to be a serious pollster, but given their usual left wing bias, one could hardly call them a nuclear shill.

rickw
rickw
October 30, 2022 3:27 pm

A thread on 32V farm power system on historical vehicle club:

https://www.hcvc.com.au/forum/oldjunk/12440-32-v-generators-elementary-q-a

Mater
October 30, 2022 3:27 pm

That’s 165% improvement and not something to sneeze at.

Your kidding right!

You’ve just written a post expressing that you got your kilometres and miles mixed up, and also looked up how to actually calculate a true percentage increase (which you now seem to have squared away) but then you re-input your dodgy figures, which are again a combination of kilometres and miles.

Your method is now right, but you still have the wrong answer.

Here, I’ll do it for you.

393km (in 2011/12) becomes 640km (in 2021/22) = 62.85% increase.

Now, let’s put that back into your question, and re-ask me:

That’s 63% improvement and not something to sneeze at.

And I’d say:

“No it’s not, but given that the battery looks to be significantly bigger for the second figure, I’m not nearly as impressed as you appear to be.”

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Drove a 20.9 litre V12 when I was a youth.

shatterzzz
October 30, 2022 3:35 pm

The Teals happened because the Libs didn’t support nuclear power

The Teals happened the same way Labor won gummint .. folk were fed-up with the non-event that was the LNP gummint and their pathetic non-handling of both their and the state abuses over BAT FLU & lockdowns .. nuttin’ to do with nuclear ……… FFS!

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

32 Volt generators were the norm and storage batteries for the times the genset was off.

There were dissenting tribes that used 240V lighting plants. (Of which my clan were members)
Someone years ago on the old Cat explained to me why so many persisted with installation of 32V long after it was becoming difficult & expensive to obtain compatible fittings, appliances, etc.

Winston Smith
October 30, 2022 3:41 pm

Bruce O’Newk:
https://youtu.be/NR7QCUit-do animation of the crater showing the ice and although it isn’t commented on, the lack of ‘slump’ in the crater walls shows how much less gravity is there to pull it all flat.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

the 20.9 litre V12 was by ……. Mercedes Benz. *vroom*vroom*

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 3:42 pm

topper alert.

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 3:45 pm

And another one for Jercky Crusty (JC) and Mrs Stencho Pantyhose even though they say that they don’t read this stuff……………………………..

An old man is walking down the road when he hears something call out to him. He looks over his shoulder to find a frog at the side of the road waving him over. He walks over and the frog says “Sir! If you kiss me I’ll turn into a beautiful woman and to repay you I’ll spend the rest of your life with you!” The old man says “Yeah, alright” then puts the frog in his pocket and keeps walking. The frog sticks its head out of the pocket and yells “I don’t think you understood me!? IF YOU KISS ME I’ll become a beautiful woman!” The old man responds “Look, I’m 91 years old. At this point in my life I’d rather have a talking frog”.

MatrixTransform
October 30, 2022 3:51 pm

topper alert

coming from somebody that set such a low bar, that’s actually funny

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2022 3:51 pm

The battery bank is long gone, but the engine and generator are still there.

I believe the cells were lead-acid, which is why they needed topping up with distilled water.

It was almost certainly a standard setup that could be purchased. The whole installation and the equipment were pretty professional in appearance.

As Gez highlighted in his initial post on this, the standard voltage seems to have been 32V DC. Enough power to run useful things even if the installation was in an outbuilding as ours was.

I know my uncle had a 32V system with 16 x 2V Pb acid cells which would be charged up periodically. It was a Lister diesel generator iirc. The washing machine was 240V ac by then powered with one of those excellent Honda petrol units. I suspect the 32V battery would have been charged at 36V as was the case on the 1920s red rattlers in Sydney with a 1500V dc-36V dc motor-generator.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 3:51 pm

Yea, I added 1 to 65%. I did mean 65%.

And I’d say:

“No it’s not, but given that the battery looks to be significantly bigger for the second figure, I’m not nearly as impressed as you appear to be.”

I’m reasonably impressed. They’re making okay progress.

132andBush
132andBush
October 30, 2022 3:53 pm

the 20.9 litre V12 was by ……. Mercedes Benz. *vroom*vroom*

Acremaster?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

132andBush says: October 30, 2022 at 3:53 pm

the 20.9 litre V12 was by ……. Mercedes Benz. *vroom*vroom*

Acremaster?

Hehe, wasn’t hard to work out.
Yep, a masterful piece of Western Australian engineering, Mercedes powered.
To be fair dinkum, I never thought much of the V12, not in that application anyway.
I felt for Laurie Phillips. He wasn’t the only Australian manufacturer to be crapped on by the federal govt.

m0nty
m0nty
October 30, 2022 3:56 pm

This bit is way less true.

The problem with this argument is that those who push for nukes want fossil fuels to be the bridging tech… and if nukes never come, as seems likely, then they shrug. Essentially the Libs are using nukes as a fig leaf for what they really want, which is more government largesse for coal producers.

Could Labor ever agree on nukes as a long-term replacement for solar PV? Maybe. But in the absence of an investment in capacity and economies of scale like the Chinese made in solar, it seems unlikely.

I think you have to look for China for leadership on nukes. It will certainly not come from an economic backwater like Australia.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2022 3:58 pm

In my opinion electric cars are crap for the following reasons-

.1 Poor range (even worse in winter when you have to use battery capacity to heat the car)
.2 Batteries degrade with every charge-discharge
.3 They are expensive to replace and they are really just the equivalent of a fuel tank.
.4 The same cult pushing electric cars is also making electricity expensive and unreliable
.5 You cannot beat the energy density of a 50L tank of 91 ocance

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 3:59 pm

Taking a tractor for a spin around a paddock is like taking Fran (tractor) Kelly out on a date. It’s not really a date in the same way that taking out a tractor in a paddock is not the same as driving. What a topperer.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 4:03 pm

MiltonF

If most of your driving in two car family is commuting around the city, why would you be really bothered with range?

What I’ve seen today is a quite a few people -living far outside of civilization such as cowpokes and regionals – complaining about range. Range isn’t a big thing for city driving and commuting. Unless range is improved markedly, then EVs are suitable for cowpokes and regionals.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 4:05 pm

you’re..

MatrixTransform
October 30, 2022 4:05 pm

Unless you are trying to be funny, you must be a young city slicker.

yeah, nah.
I never worked out country so wouldn’t have a clue about them

closest i ever got was flooded Ni-Cd in emergency lighting systems
back in the 90’s I used to refurb them by cleaning them up and mixing new KOH
dunno what their total voltage was.
prolly 32Vdc as well

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 4:09 pm

Marvin

MatrixTransform says:
October 30, 2022 at 3:51 pm

topper alert

coming from somebody that set such a low bar, that’s actually funny

You really seem to have the gangsta, building-site rap thing going well.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 4:09 pm

“His last job was in an abattoir.”
It’s a good deal worse underground.

His last job was in media.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2022 4:10 pm

Agree JC that batteries are much better than they used to be and my car is mainly for the daily commute (50km each way) but I like to duck out to Horsham or Daylesford too. I expect to be able to go anywhere, anytime.

Winston Smith
October 30, 2022 4:11 pm

Cohenite:
As much as the song is bagged by many, Macarthurs Park is still one of the most evocative of the generation,
“I will have the things that I desire, and my passions flow like rivers through the sky,”
“after all the loves of my life, I’ll be thinking of you, and wondering why, and you’ll still be the one.”

Not a perfect recollection, but close enough.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 30, 2022 4:12 pm

5 litre V8.
Bah!
A motor bike will beat the shit out of any car for fun. Way too tame JC.

Winston Smith
October 30, 2022 4:13 pm

https://www.youtube.com/c/TheFourBoxesDiner
Interesting site I’ve just run across.
To defend your liberty, you need to understand the “four boxes” of American liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 4:13 pm

aren’t suitable.

.. man, i can’t believe it. I developed a cold or flu about 1 1/2 weeks ago and I’m having a serious relapse with coughing and feeling like crap over the past couple of days. Twice tested and no covid. The vaxes must have really worked. 🙂

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2022 4:14 pm

A great rule I learnt at work was once the fuel gauge drops below half, fill up asap.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 30, 2022 4:15 pm

Piers Akerman from last week. Apologies if posted:

‘The Albanese Labor government’s disgraceful withdrawal of Australia’s recognition of West Jerusalem as Israel’s capital is an abject rejection of the historical, moral and cultural basis of our relationship with the Jewish state.
It represents the most disgusting concession to Islamist extremists, as exemplified by the enthusiastic support it received from Iran’s proxies in the West Bank and Gaza – Hezbollah, Hamas and Islamic Jihad – which are recognised by the government as terrorist organisations.
Further, it repudiates Labor’s seminal role in the creation of the state of Israel and the formative decisions taken by Labor icon, the former prime minister Ben Chifley and his external affairs minister H.V. (Doc) Evatt. Without these two giants, it is debatable whether modern Israel would have come into existence.
Israel’s creation depended heavily on Evatt, who served as president of the UN General Assembly at the time of Israel’s admission to the United Nations and was an architect of the UN Charter at the 1945 San Francisco conference, which saw the world body established.
He then guided the 1947 Partition Plan for Palestine through the UN; in so doing, Evatt transformed the history of the modern Middle East.
That Prime Minister Anthony Albanese and Foreign Minister Penny Wong, who has shown reasonable strength in dealing with China’s brutal totalitarian regime, have so cravenly backtracked on former prime minister Scott Morrison’s decision to move the Australian embassy to its rightful place in Jerusalem is a reprehensible act that belongs in the grubby realm of socialist-left student politics, not on the world stage.
Morrison’s decision to move the embassy in 2018 during the Wentworth by-election (an electorate with a high proportion of Jewish voters) may have been clumsy but it followed then-US president Donald Trump’s 2017 pronouncement which his Democrat successor Joe Biden has let stand.
Guatemala, Honduras and Kosovo followed suit, several other countries said they would do the same and, until last week, Australia took the same route as Russia, which recognised western Jerusalem as the capital but did not move its embassy from Tel Aviv.
The current US ambassador to Israel Thomas Nides recently reiterated: “As it relates to this office, the capital of Israel is Jerusalem. That is the position of this administration and it was the position even when the offices were in Tel Aviv.”
Wong’s announcement that the Australian government’s recognition of West Jerusalem as Israel’s capital is to be withdrawn during a Jewish High Holiday and in the midst of an Israeli election campaign destroyed any reputation she and her department may have had globally.
How about that, Australia interfering in the Israeli elections as both the Prime Minister Yair Lapid and challenger, the former PM Benjamin Netanyahu, have claimed.
On the face of it, the Albanese government is pandering to a handful of MPs with heavily Muslim electorates but, apart from that parochialism, this hypocrisy on steroids will do nothing to further the realisation of a ‘two-state solution’ between Israel and the Palestinians.
The capital of Israel is all of Jerusalem, not just the western part of the city, although that is where the Knesset, Supreme Court and several government ministries are located.
The Palestinians were first offered their own state alongside a Jewish state west of the Jordan River as a result of the 1937 Peel Commission, then the UN Partition Plan in 1947 and again following the Oslo Accords – in 2000, 2008 and 2009. They were offered at least 95 per cent of the territory they were officially demanding but constantly rejected the offer of their own state living in peace beside the Jewish state, always resorting to violence.
The mantra, heard on Australian university campuses as well as in the streets of Gaza, “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” is proof of the desire to eliminate Israel altogether. Any claims that today’s Palestinians have historic claims to Israel were eliminated by the 1917 Balfour Declaration, and ratified under the San Remo Resolution of 1920 and passed on to the UN (Article 80).
Now there are 150,000 rockets and missiles pointed at the state of Israel.
Culturally, where is Wong’s head at? As a prominent lesbian (albeit one who voted against gay marriage as recently as 2016) she should be aware that Iran and its proxies in the Palestinian Authority and the Islamist groups who cheered her decision on Jerusalem are violently opposed to homosexuality and celebrate the murder of homosexuals.
Arab nations are rejecting Palestinians as rapidly as Albanese and Wong are embracing their cause.
Under the Abraham Accords, Bahrain, the UAE, Morocco and Sudan enjoy closer relations and Israel has struck peace deals with Jordan and Egypt. Saudi Arabia is opening up to Israel, as are other Arab nations.
Israel is our only ally in the Middle East. With the support of its intelligence networks, terrorist acts targeting Australians have been thwarted.
The annual Beersheba defence dialogue between Israeli and Australian interests is scheduled next month at which cyber security, drones and missile defences will be discussed. The deputy chief of staff of the Israeli defence force is listed as a participant.
It is in our national interest to support Israel, not insult its right to nominate its own capital.’

Winston Smith
October 30, 2022 4:16 pm

https://youtu.be/S5uV5aUxqVw
From the 4Boxes site.
Australia desperately needs a Bill of Rights. One that limits and guarantees not just the citizenry, but the Government and Bureaucracy as well.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 4:18 pm

Did mUnty give us details on the depth of the KRuddy Cabinet or just do his usual disappearing act? Should I do a word search on Wayne Swan, Craig Emerson or Stephen Conroy? FMD

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 4:19 pm

Farmer Gez says:
October 30, 2022 at 4:12 pm

5 litre V8.
Bah!
A motor bike will beat the shit out of any car for fun. Way too tame JC.

In the first two gears and then it’s over for a bike. Gez, without a doubt, the V8 5 litre BMW is the best engine I’ve ever driven. It’s a truly magnificent creation. Sure, things go wrong because it’s an over engineered kraut creation, but boy when it works it’s just perfection. You’re never left wanting for extra power. You can also watch the fuel needle move towards zero, which is really fun a $2.35 liter petrol. 🙂 Most of all, I’m doing my bit to help emissions along.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 4:21 pm

Australia desperately needs a Bill of Rights. One that limits and guarantees not just the citizenry, but the Government and Bureaucracy as well

Yeah, nah. Reckon you’ve got problems with the courts now?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 4:24 pm

Most cars won’t touch a fast bike in a straight line. Corners are a different question. Plenty of YouTubes to check this.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 30, 2022 4:26 pm

The problem with this argument is that those who push for nukes want fossil fuels to be the bridging tech…

Not in the least.
The ‘bridging tech’ out to ~2040 is already pretty much set:

• Demand management (by whatever name);
• The newer units of the Queensland coal fired fleet;
• open cycle gas (assuming some sort of CSG domestic reservation); and
• a motley of uncoordinated renewables with sub/bare minimum storage.

Australia has no more than 20 years to sort its nuclear allergy – or go blind.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 4:26 pm

Most cars won’t touch a fast bike in a straight line.

Sure, but what’s your point? Most cars in Australia these days are SUVs.

m0nty
m0nty
October 30, 2022 4:26 pm

.. man, i can’t believe it. I developed a cold or flu about 1 1/2 weeks ago and I’m having a serious relapse with coughing and feeling like crap over the past couple of days. Twice tested and no covid. The vaxes must have really worked. ?

Old people tend to die easily from pneumonia. Just saying.

Winston Smith
October 30, 2022 4:31 pm

Duncanm:

Interesting all the ice that splattered out of the hole. Elon may have a decent chance colonizing the place.

quite amazing — how many days will it take to sublimate*?

* – I assume that’s what it’ll do

Due to very low atmospheric pressure/temperature, sublimate is probably the best term, but realistically it would make very little difference. I don’t remember seeing any rivulet stains which would indicate evaporation via solid/fluid/gas mechanism rather than the sublimation you see in a block of ice in your freezer at the thin edges – solid to gas with no intermediary liquid phase.
If the scrapings from the excavator arm of previous Bots is any guide, it’s probably about a mm each 12 days. (Wild arse guess? probably.)

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 30, 2022 4:32 pm

You’re definitely closer to God on a bike.
I never felt I’d kill myself in a car but there’s been a few times on a bike.
Riding pillion is only for the very trusting or stupid.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 4:33 pm

Thanks for your kind thoughts, Fatboy.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 30, 2022 4:33 pm

Australia desperately needs a Bill of Rights. One that limits and guarantees not just the citizenry, but the Government and Bureaucracy as well.
Garbage.
This is a Labor Party Narrative.
Everything not in the Bill of Rights is no longer a Right.

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