Open Thread – Weekend 29 Oct 2022


Still Life with Dahlias, Zinnias, Hollyhocks and Plums, Eugène Delacroix, 1835


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JC
JC
October 29, 2022 11:00 pm

Ok sorry, I’m not being very helpful

please give the readership some detail about iron batteries and their imminent advancement

…if they’re real

Are you aware I provided a excerpt and a link to the MIT Tech Review page explaining it, you drunken clown? It’s multiples more than you ever provide on any subject except pipe soldering.

MatrixTransform
October 29, 2022 11:06 pm

JC, you keep banging on about iodine

and I only care about your reputation as a valued contributor, JC

have you had your thyroid checked lately?

MatrixTransform
October 29, 2022 11:11 pm

I provided a excerpt and a link to the MIT Tech Review page

JC, not marketing shit… detail!

find some substance man

… report back when you get a clue

JC
JC
October 29, 2022 11:16 pm

have you had your thyroid checked lately?

Oh, we’re getting personal, right?

How’s the family, Marv. Everything good?

Rabz
October 29, 2022 11:22 pm

The Big Sleep

The Sparseness™

MatrixTransform
October 29, 2022 11:31 pm

Oh, we’re getting personal, right?
How’s the family, Marv. Everything good?

by god you one stupid person

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 29, 2022 11:34 pm

I provided a excerpt and a link to the MIT Tech Review page

JC, not marketing shit… detail!

It’s real enough technology.
ESS, the firm referenced in the MIT magazine article, is presently building an iron/salt flow battery factory in Queensland.

MatrixTransform
October 29, 2022 11:37 pm

It’s real enough technology.

fucking flow batteries
I knew it

JC
JC
October 29, 2022 11:38 pm

Of course I am, Marv. You filthy drunk. Go whine on the therapy thread about your plights, you depressed loon. You have zero to add to any discussion because you’re a fucking moron. That’s why nearly all your comments end up as stoushes.

The point was, you dickhead, Fester had been telling us battery tech had hit a wall and there was no hope of advancement. This was when EVs were maxed out at 240K. They’re now reported at 630 K and I think Tesla is higher. Fester told us that Tesla would fail and batteries couldn’t be improved. They have and continue to be. No fuck off and stop wasting our time, you worthless drunk.

MatrixTransform
October 29, 2022 11:41 pm

were maxed out at 240K

240K is -33.15°C

the fuck are you talking about you idiot?

duncanm
duncanm
October 29, 2022 11:41 pm

Interesting all the ice that splattered out of the hole. Elon may have a decent chance colonizing the place.

quite amazing — how many days will it take to sublimate*?

* – I assume that’s what it’ll do

JC
JC
October 29, 2022 11:42 pm

fucking flow batteries
I knew it

Says the pipe solderer. He knew it.

Look, you fucking dickhead, there are two ways batteries can advance. It can occur through technological advancement or economic efficiency. The point that the MIT Review discussed was that even if the tech isn’t great, it could lower the cost of batteries by 20 multiple. That’s economic efficiency, you worthless drunken slob. Now get to the therapy thread and tell us more.

JC
JC
October 29, 2022 11:44 pm

the fuck are you talking about you idiot?

240 kilometer range, you drunken loon. Seriously, you’re too stupid to be here. You triggered imbecile.

Rabz
October 29, 2022 11:48 pm

After all the recent controversies about wymminses gifted with a third leg, let’s go back to where it all started …*

*and yes, for all their supposed worldliness, no one at the beeb did (claim to) know what “the giving of head” actually was. Hence the song was not banned in the UK.

MatrixTransform
October 29, 2022 11:48 pm

It can occur through technological advancement or economic efficiency

like I said, you are one stupid person

Rabz
October 29, 2022 11:52 pm

JC – it’s a Saturday Night, Squire.

Perhaps a little ditty as performed by your favourite R ‘n’ R artiste might help soothe the mood?

JC, as he imagines himself

MatrixTransform
October 29, 2022 11:54 pm

240 kilometer range, you drunken loon

ok moron so you’re using distance as a metric

and in your universe, the units for distance are km

ffs

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 29, 2022 11:54 pm

Therapy thread??

JC
JC
October 29, 2022 11:58 pm

ok moron so you’re using distance as a metric

Range, you drunk.

and in your universe, the units for distance are km

Average range is what people are concerned with, dickhead.

Therapy now!

Rabz
October 30, 2022 12:04 am

Therapy thread??

Ms Fishbourne, JC’s truancy problem is way out of hand, I tells ya …

It’s the o’pinion of the entire staff that JC is criminally insane …

MatrixTransform
October 30, 2022 12:04 am

not kW
not J/s
not kWh
not power
not energy

the only PDE needed is to calculate how far a subsidy dollar could potentially drag your stupid arse

by god, yr a fuckwit

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2022 12:08 am

keep solderin’ on chaps

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 12:09 am

Oh fuck off. dickhead. If the range goes from 240 to 630 k (260% increase) battery attributes have risen in all the metrics you mention. Stick to soldering pipes, you ridiculous clown as you aren’t able to fake it with people here.

Rabz
October 30, 2022 12:09 am
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2022 12:14 am

Got any Indian truck-stop bands Rabz?
We don’t like The Avalanches.

MatrixTransform
October 30, 2022 12:17 am

If the range goes from 240 to 630 k (260% increase) battery attributes have risen in all the metrics you mention

by gawd, yr a retard

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 12:19 am

Okay.

Now head off to therapy. I’ll be there to help.

Rabz
October 30, 2022 12:20 am

Pancho – how could you not like the Avalanches?

Next Saturday Night, Squire – you can still suggest a musical genre …

Rabz
October 30, 2022 12:22 am

Apart from hillbilly goth …

Rabz
October 30, 2022 12:24 am

For a certain Sirenesque womanage … 😕

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 30, 2022 12:28 am

JC,
Just to clarify I am only relating story as told to me. I will ask him to get copies of the medical receipts to prove what the other guy said correct. Who knows, perhaps he meant $60,000 lost income. I don’t think I will be able to sleep unless I can investigate further.

Your concern over the accuracy of his story is deeply touching. You are the Snopes of the blog and I am sure all are grateful for the many details you feel the need to comment on.

Rooster

Just to clarify:

…. and spent $60,000 so far on medical bills.
He hasn’t spent 60 big ones on medical bills. Medicare and private health insurance would be footing the bill. Your pal is obviously exaggerating about the financial side.

rickw
rickw
October 30, 2022 12:52 am
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

You are the Snopes of the blog

Lol.
Wiley E. Coyote of the blog, more like it.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 1:51 am

It’s late, the motel sheets can wait to tomorrow. He’s drinking, so he joins a stoush.

Who is this courageous motel employee I wonder? This islander, this manly man who claims to have visited 389 countries with some on another planet.

Tom
Tom
October 30, 2022 4:00 am
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 30, 2022 4:24 am

Thanx Tom.

rosie
rosie
October 30, 2022 6:26 am
rosie
rosie
October 30, 2022 6:27 am
rosie
rosie
October 30, 2022 6:28 am
Zatara
Zatara
October 30, 2022 6:51 am

Pelosi Attack Suspect Was A Psychotic Homeless Addict Estranged From His Pedophile Lover & Their Children

“What I know about the family is that they’re very radical activists,” said one of DePape’s neighbors, a woman who only gave her first name, Trish. “They seem very left. They are all about the Black Lives Matter movement. Gay pride. But they’re very detached from reality.”

Indolent
Indolent
October 30, 2022 7:42 am
Indolent
Indolent
October 30, 2022 7:43 am
Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 30, 2022 7:51 am

Russia suspends the UN Ukrainian grain export deal because of the Crimean attacks.
Higher prices in the coming harvest for me, more food price inflation for you on top of the flood damage.

Indolent
Indolent
October 30, 2022 7:53 am
Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 7:56 am

Man becomes great exactly in the degree in which he works for the welfare of his fellow-men.

– Mahatma Gandhi

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 30, 2022 7:57 am

Something Australian Politicians have failed to Notice!

SPECTATOR EDITORIAL – The lesson of 2022: energy is our lifeblood

The Ukraine war reminds us we need it in abundance, whether we like it or not

This has, so far, been a year of hard lessons. Spiraling inflation has given households an expensive economic refresher course. A land war in Europe has offered an unwelcome reminder of old geopolitical and military truths. But arguably the most important lesson of 2022 concerns the point at which these economic, military and geopolitical considerations converge: energy.

On this vital issue, the West has suffered from an epidemic of amnesia in recent years. Too often energy security has either been taken for granted by policymakers and voters, for whom the last energy crisis had become a distant memory, or actively disparaged by an environmental movement whose hardline hostility to fossil fuels has become received wisdom in polite circles. In other words: energy abundance was either something we didn’t need to worry about or something we actively disparaged. War in Ukraine has exposed both views as dangerous delusions.

The new energy crisis is being felt most acutely in Europe, where leaders have traveled further down the path to decarbonization than anywhere else. A rush to unreliable renewables, a turn against nuclear energy and an over-dependence on Russian gas is a recipe for energy disaster. As Emmet Penney explains, the cost of these mistakes has already been high. The budgets of European households have been stretched. And bad energy policy has also been environmentally self-defeating. To hedge against catastrophe, Germany has returned to bur ing coal. With winter approaching, the worst is yet to come. The apparent sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines in the Baltic Sea at the end of September was an inauspicious start to the colder months.

Americans have felt the consequences of rising energy prices too, of course, but things aren’t as bad on this side of the pond. One reason why is the shale revolution that began to transform the energy landscape over a decade ago, and has turned the United States into a net energy exporter.

Yet no matter how loudly the energy-crisis alarm bells ring, many in the political and media classes remain committed to a hardline climate change agenda and refuse to heed the warning.

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 7:59 am

A hooded robber burst into a bank and forced the tellers to load a sack full of cash.

On his way out the door, a brave customer grabbed the hood and pulled it off, revealing the robber’s face. The robber shot the customer without a moment hesitation.

He then looked around the bank and noticed one of the tellers looking straight at him. The robber instantly shot him also.

Everyone in the bank, by now very scared, looked intently down at the floor in silence. The robber yelled “Well, did anyone else see my face?”

There are a few moments of utter silence in which everyone was plainly too afraid to speak then, one old man tentatively raised his hand and said “My wife got a pretty good look at you”.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2022 8:00 am

That’s not going to be good for eastern Africans.

Cattle too weak to stand in Kenya as farmers lose livelihoods to drought (29 Oct)

That’s in NE Kenya, which means Somalia is going to be very bad, and Ethiopia too. Which won’t be helped by the nasty civil war there.

As it so often happens the weather patterns that drive wet seasons here likewise drive drought in East Africa. Get ready for climate screeching from the usual suspects as the famine hits.

shatterzzz
October 30, 2022 8:06 am
Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 30, 2022 8:11 am

ABC news running hard on the false narrative of the Pelosi attack.
FBI director decrying political attacks with a political statement.
In other news- Dog pisses on post.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2022 8:15 am

I would never pollute my car or house with the ABC on. Bad enough when some of the guys at work have JJJ on.

calli
calli
October 30, 2022 8:16 am

Someone with an electronic version of Credlin’s Tele column might like to put up some choice bits. I only have dead tree edition.

She pulls apart the energy policy which physically can’t happen and the fraud of the “million new homes” lie.

Indolent
Indolent
October 30, 2022 8:20 am
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 30, 2022 8:23 am

callisays:
October 30, 2022 at 8:16 am
Someone with an electronic version of Credlin’s Tele column might like to put up some choice bits. I only have dead tree edition.

She pulls apart the energy policy which physically can’t happen and the fraud of the “million new homes” lie.

Plus coming up this Wednesday on Sky News

‘The Cult of Daniel Andrews: A Peta Credlin Investigation’ coming to Sky News

Tom
Tom
October 30, 2022 8:23 am

On Sky News, Turtlehead Bowen is now saying that the Liars election pledge to reduce household power prices was “based on 2021 modelling”.

Turtlehead is also saying the transformation to renewable energy needs to accelerate. And, of course, he’s also ruling out nuclear energy.

Get ready for the mother of all gaslighting propaganda campaign as power prices go through the roof. Sky’s analysis of the budget is that household power prices will rise 80% in the next 18 months.

Indolent
Indolent
October 30, 2022 8:25 am

Disturbing indeed. You will test yourself. “For some tests you may need to go to a health post where there’s a machine for things like blood tests….”

Sophia Dahl
@sophiadahl1
Bill Gates about bringing test to people…????this is very disturbing to listen to

cohenite
October 30, 2022 8:32 am

Stoush about batteries last night. Batteries underwent considerable advancement during WW11 with the subs and other military gear running on the things. Most of what is heralded as advances today is mere recycling of WW11 technology. Batteries have 2 insurmountable defects: they don’t produce electricity; and they store it inefficiently. You can tinker with the storage inefficiency and capacity but at the end of the day when your energy sources are weather dependant you’re basically fucked.

One final point the batteries, like renewables generally, use huge amounts of rare Earths. Wasting rare Earths on defunct technology is a crime against humanity.

duncanm
duncanm
October 30, 2022 8:35 am

.. the fix is in .. . chances are DePape (a sad and delusional individual) is a patsy.

from wiki

The Associated Press reported that one month before the attack, DePape had said online that any journalist who challenged Trump’s election fraud claims “should be dragged straight out into the street and shot.”[25]

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 30, 2022 8:35 am

Indolentsays:
October 30, 2022 at 8:25 am
Disturbing indeed. You will test yourself. “For some tests you may need to go to a health post where there’s a machine for things like blood tests….”

Had to see a Doctor in Zug Switzerland – not expensive, took bloods, put in machine in next room, gave me results, then prescribed and dispensed antibiotics all in one visit and one place

Struck me as totally efficient.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 30, 2022 8:36 am

duncanmsays:
October 30, 2022 at 8:35 am
.. the fix is in .. . chances are DePape (a sad and delusional individual) is a patsy.

from wiki

The Associated Press reported that one month before the attack, DePape had said online that any journalist who challenged Trump’s election fraud claims “should be dragged straight out into the street and shot.”[25]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/10/point-extremely-important-david-depape-stays-alive-tell-story/

WolfmanOz
October 30, 2022 8:37 am

calli says:
October 30, 2022 at 8:16 am
Someone with an electronic version of Credlin’s Tele column might like to put up some choice bits. I only have dead tree edition.

She pulls apart the energy policy which physically can’t happen and the fraud of the “million new homes” lie.

Here you go:

Peta Credlin: Anthony Albanese breaks pre-election promises to cut power bills
Before the election, Labor repeatedly promised that average household power bills would be $275 lower by 2025. This week’s Budget exposes the truth — that people can expect huge increases instead, writes Peta Credlin.

A budget that was supposed to be about the federal government delivering on its election promises has ended up confirming that it’s breaking them.
On 97 separate occasions pre-election, Anthony Albanese and Labor promised that average household power bills would be $275 lower by 2025.

In fact, say the Budget papers, electricity bills will rise by 50 per cent over the next 18 months (some warn as high as 80 per cent) and gas bills by 40 per cent.

So instead of a $275 (or nearly 20 per cent) cut in household electricity costs, what can be expected is a $750 increase.

Trying to justify their broken promise, the PM and the Treasurer have said that it’s Vladimir Putin’s fault, not theirs. But hang on; you can’t blame your broken promise on Putin’s war, when it broke out on February 24 and you were still making your promise right up to polling day on May 21.

The other problem is that wholesale power prices started to surge not in February, when Putin invaded, but in April, when the Liddell coal-fired power station in NSW shut down a quarter of its capacity.

Besides, why would Putin’s war have a direct impact on power prices in Australia, when we don’t import gas or any other energy from Russia?

There’s only one reason why power prices are skyrocketing. It’s because we are replacing reliable 24/7 power provided by fossil fuels with unreliable wind and solar power that needs expensive back-up for the 70 per cent of the time when the wind isn’t blowing or the sun isn’t shining.

Albanese and his ministers repeatedly claim, as he did in parliament this week, “that the cheapest way to deliver electricity today is not coal, it’s not gas … it’s wind and solar backed up by pumped hydro and batteries”.

Even if this were true, and it’s not, we simply don’t have sufficient batteries or pumped hydro to do the job. The “big batteries” in South Australia and Victoria last less than 30 minutes at peak discharge. And the much-vaunted Snowy 2.0 scheme is still years off completion and billions over budget.

Yet the rest of Liddell is closing down in April next year, and Eraring, the biggest power station in NSW, is closing in 2025.

Put aside the ideology for a moment and let’s just focus on the engineering reality of what’s proposed.

Under Labor’s legislated 43 per cent cut in Australia’s emissions, coal, which currently provides more than 60 per cent of our power, is expected to provide less than 10 per cent in eight years. And renewables, currently less than 30 per cent of our power, are supposed to provide over 80 per cent.

But, for that to happen, as even Labor admits, there needs to be 40 new wind turbines built every month and 22,000 solar panels installed every day, for the next eight years, plus 28,000km of new high voltage transmission lines built at the cost of $80 billion.

Labor is embarked on a horrendously expensive transition to renewable power that simply won’t happen quickly enough to meet the government’s timetable for the phase out of fossil fuels.

Without a Plan B, of which there’s no sign whatsoever, the prospect is not just for even higher power prices but for widespread blackouts. Or the shutdown of heavy industry, because while you can run a house on solar panels and batteries, you can’t run a factory that way.

Combined with the certainty of Labor’s failure to deliver the promised increase to real wages and the likelihood of Labor scrapping or fudging the promised stage 3 tax cuts, this broken promise on power prices will haunt Labor to polling day.

No wonder, for the first time since the election, federal Liberals have a spring in their step.

If Peter Dutton can keep his team together, while also presenting a clear alternative to a government that’s let people down, victory in 2025 has suddenly become a distinct possibility.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 30, 2022 8:39 am

Somalia relies on a subsistence animal grazing for meat, supplemented by home garden plant foods.
The media are blaming the famine as a manifestation of climate change.
Maybe the tribal farming techniques might just have a wee impact on their ability to feed themselves. Just spitballing here.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 30, 2022 8:39 am

I see VICPOL is running adverts for new recruits. Its all rescuing bushwalkers, taping off murder scenes and hugging victims. Nothing about arresting pyjama clad pregnant women for facebook posts or pepper spraying grandmothers.

duncanm
duncanm
October 30, 2022 8:41 am

“What I know about the family is that they’re very radical activists,” said one of DePape’s neighbors, a woman who only gave her first name, Trish. “They seem very left. They are all about the Black Lives Matter movement. Gay pride. But they’re very detached from reality.”

Don’d believe your lying eyes, direct observer!

wiki:

In 2021, DePape published on his Facebook page multiple links to videos by Mike Lindell. He also linked to a video entitled “Democrat FARCE Commission to Investigate January 6th Capitol Riot COLLAPSES in Congress!!!” and content claiming that COVID-19 vaccines were deadly.[21] According to Politico, DePape .. appears to have embraced falsehoods about the outcome of the 2020 election and political conspiracies”.[24]

The Associated Press reported that one month before the attack, DePape had said online that any journalist who challenged Trump’s election fraud claims “should be dragged straight out into the street and shot.”[25]

In the lead-up to the attack, DePape promoted QAnon and other far-right conspiracy theories on his WordPress.com blog, where he also attacked “the elites/ruling class”, “immigrants, people of color, women, LGBTQ people and Muslims”. DePape made posts with headlines such as “Communist Voodoo science”, “Feminist gets owned”, and “The woke are Racists with a guilty conscience”.[22] DePape also promoted antisemitic conspiracy theories, such as accusing Jews of orchestrating the Russian invasion of Ukraine earlier this year in order to enrich themselves and take over Ukrainian land.[26] DePape credited Gamergate, Jordan Peterson, and James A. Lindsay for his interest in right-wing politics. DePape’s last post, published a day before the attack, was titled “Why Colleges are becoming Cults.”[23]

I wonder how long the guy has been locked up / drugged / manipulated / faked for.

I’m not usually one for tin foil hattery – but this one is pretty obvious.

That, or the guy is so unstable he’s like a rubber ball bouncing from extreme walls.

Cassie of Sydney
October 30, 2022 8:42 am

“Sky’s analysis of the budget is that household power prices will rise 80% in the next 18 months.”

Faaaaark.

It is now a year since Scumbag capitulated to some Liberal wets such as Karma Sharma and Rent Zimmerboy, and they entered into a pact with the devil, sold their souls, and in the process destroyed the Liberal and National Parties as an electoral force. It was obvious to all when this happened that it would destroy the Party. I now have zero sympathy for either party. As for the Nationals, Barnabus the Beetroot and some in his party thought that they could wave aside the whole “net zero emissions” for some cheap and tawdry pork barreling. They should have walked away. Now the Beetroot and Littleproud have the chutzpah, the absolute fucking chutzpah, to complain about the Albanese government’s methane policies and the reversal of funding for many regional communities.

SUCK IT UP NATIONALS.

Only last Monday night, Nick Cater told me to my face that we need to stop thinking about the past and we need to move forward. TO WHAT?

So, here’s my take, a take I told Nick and whilst I wasn’t rude, I was blunt, until the Liberals are prepared to learn from their mistakes and…..

1. stand up to this climate hysteria nonsense and call it out for what it is….a con,

2. ditch, bury and cremate “net zero emissions”,

3. say NO to the Voice,

the party can go fuck themselves.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2022 8:43 am

I still reckon the best batteries are wet lead acids and wet nickel cads. Both poisonous but effective. Lead acids fairly easy to recycle too.

duncanm
duncanm
October 30, 2022 8:47 am
mem
mem
October 30, 2022 8:48 am

The Ford F-150 Lightning electric pickup truck’s “kryptonite” is a road trip, according to the Detroit News review of the vehicle. Auto critic Henry Payne explains that the electric truck got him “170 miles of range” on a trip up interstate 75 in Michigan, while its gasoline-powered counterpart gets drivers “600 miles and 22 mpg.” https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2022/10/29/review-of-ford-f-150-lightning-electric-pickup-road-trips-are-the-trucks-kryptonite/

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 30, 2022 8:50 am

Newsflash, Cassie of Sydney:
Scotty isn’t P.M. anymore, no use screaming at him.
The new guy is Tony the “Albanian”, any probs with your power bill, give Tone a tingle on the eau de cologne.

Indolent
Indolent
October 30, 2022 8:51 am

Had to see a Doctor in Zug Switzerland – not expensive, took bloods, put in machine in next room, gave me results, then prescribed and dispensed antibiotics all in one visit and one place

Yes, but you’ll note that his version does not include a doctor.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 30, 2022 8:52 am

You knew Gangnam Style was going was going to end badly (the NT News):

At least 146 people were killed and 150 injured in a stampede in central Seoul during Halloween festivities on Saturday, officials said.

“As of 4am, 146 have been killed and 150 have been injured,” fire official Choi Seong-beom told reporters at the scene

Choi said the stampede took place around 10.22pm (local time) and many of the victims were trampled to death.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2022 8:53 am

One final point the batteries, like renewables generally, use huge amounts of rare Earths.

Actually Cohenite they don’t.

They do use rare metals like cobalt and lithium but mostly not rare earth elements. The exception is Toyota’s Prius batteries which are NiMH, with lanthanum replacing some of the nickel – since lanthanum is cheaper and more abundant that nickel. There aren’t many other uses for lanthanum so that’s a fairly elegant use of the metal. NiMH isn’t used for pure EVs because it has a lower energy density, around half of Li-ion batteries.

Rare earth metals like neodymium and samarium are in heavy demand for EV electric motors (including hybrids) and also for wind turbine magnets.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 30, 2022 8:56 am

miltonfsays:
October 30, 2022 at 8:43 am
I still reckon the best batteries are wet lead acids and wet nickel cads. Both poisonous but effective. Lead acids fairly easy to recycle too.

Thoughts on – AGM – I have Dual Optima Batteries on my 4Wd

I have found on Honda Jazz NRMA heavy duty battery lasts about 4 years then goes dead – no warning

AGM VS GEL BATTERIES – WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE?

AGM vs Gel batteries; its a rough battle! AGM batteries and Gel batteries are easily confused among a lot of people, but we can’t blame them. AGM batteries and Gel batteries have a lot in common. For example, they both use valve regulated lead acid technology and they are both maintenance free and non-spillable. However, there are a number of differences between the two types of batteries. Read this blog entirely and you’ll be able to highlight some major differences.

AGM BATTERIES

AGM stands for Absorbed Glass Mat, which is a unique mat designed to trap the electrolyte between the plates inside the battery. AGM batteries are also known as SLA batteries or VRLA batteries. SLA stands for Sealed Lead Acid. VRLA stands for Valve-Regulated Lead-Acid. Unlike the traditional wet batteries, AGM batteries only hold a small amount of acid, which is entirely absorbed by the glass mat. This is a major safety feature which prevents acid from leaking from the battery, even if the battery breaks. This is why AGM batteries are known to be non-spillable and maintenance free. AGM batteries have a wide range of applications, such as emergency lights, alarm systems, medical equipment and UPS.

GEL BATTERIES

Gel batteries are a type of lead acid batteries, but built with with a gel electrolyte, which is designed to mix with the sulfuric acid and fumed silica. This causes a chemical reaction that causes the gel electrolytes to immobile. This allows the battery to be maintenance free and spill-proof, meaning you can install the battery in any direction without worrying about acid leaks. Gel batteries also have deep cycling capabilities, making it an ideal battery option for many applications, including: solar and wind energy, electric vehicles, wheelchairs, golf carts, cleaning equipment, medical equipment and marine.

AGM VS GEL – LIFE EXPECTANCY

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 30, 2022 8:57 am

A street sweeper would sort them out.
Either variety.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2022 8:58 am

Only last Monday night, Nick Cater told me to my face that we need to stop thinking about the past and we need to move forward. TO WHAT?

yes- and you can join a branch and put forward all sorts of commonsense resolutions only to have them filed in the dustbin by HQ. I walked after the Trumble coup and it was mind blowing in 2016 to see LP members handing out HTV with pictures of Trumble.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 30, 2022 9:00 am

Srange.
After his pathetic attempt at justifying an assault on Rand Paul for “blowing leaves”, and ignoring his own pseudo-jocular response to the assault, m0nty-fa disappeared. And that without even attempting to justify his response to the shooting of Steve Scalise, when he joked that an injury that almost killed Scalise was minor.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 30, 2022 9:01 am

Strange, not srange!

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 30, 2022 9:01 am

Sky’s analysis of the budget is that household power prices will rise 80% in the next 18 months.
The sky is falling in too.
Here’s a few tips:
Don’t turn the lights on when you don’t need to
Use a rechargeable torch at night.
Go to bed at 8 o’clock.
Eat steak, it only takes a few minutes to cook.
Turn the Idiot box off, put it on the footpath.
Gas hot water.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 30, 2022 9:04 am

1. stand up to this climate hysteria nonsense and call it out for what it is….a con,

The time to take a stand was the late 80s and early 90s.
Too late now, I fear. The sheep are out of the pen.

P.S.
Told ya’

Crossie
Crossie
October 30, 2022 9:05 am

No Outsiders, they’re having a technical problem. Funny how it only happens to that program. I said before, the technician should be relieved of “his” duties (I don’t know whether the tech is a male or female and I don’t care).

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2022 9:07 am

Funny how it only happens to that program.

so why bother with them at all?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 30, 2022 9:09 am

Gas for hot water

Where you gettin’ that gas from Willis?

shatterzzz
October 30, 2022 9:11 am

Maybe the tribal farming techniques might just have a wee impact on their ability to feed themselves. Just spitballing here.

And there was me thinkin’ “tribal farming”, Somalia style, involved culling your neighbour(s) .. LOL!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 30, 2022 9:13 am

A Land Of Droughts And Flooding Rains: Forecasting Rainfall At Long Lead Times

The Australian continent has a long history of droughts and floods, extending into recent years. At any particular time, there is often a drought somewhere in continent of Australia. However, there is often a reluctance to acknowledge drought as a persistent aspect of Australian life and the arrival of drought is often greeted with surprise with a tendency for each drought to be perceived as “the worst on record”. Droughts are a recurrent and natural part of the Australian climate, with evidence of drought dating back thousands of years. The impacts of droughts have been categorised as meteorological, hydrological, agricultural, and socioeconomic. Many of the reported studies have emphasised the impact of drought on agriculture, which is as topical as ever due to drought in parts of eastern Australia affecting farming communities.

Flooding rains are also a recurring feature of the Australian climate.

Download A Land Of Droughts and Flooding Rains: Forecasting Rainfall At Long Lead Times, here.

Plus

Dorothea Mackellar wrote the poem My Country in 1908, from which the lines here – surely the most quoted – are taken:

I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of droughts and flooding rains.
I love her far horizons,
I love her jewel-sea,
Her beauty and her terror
The wide brown land for me!

Mackellar wrote that just seven years after the Australian colonies got together to become the Commonwealth of Australia. More to the point, in the present situation, is that it was only 15 years after the great Brisbane flood of 1893, the worst to that date in settler Queensland’s history. The 1974 flood was the deadliest. The 2011 flood was the worst (the highest peak recorded). The 2022 peak, just passed, was significantly lower, though the flooding spread wider. There have been floods between times, each of them unique – and uniquely terrifying – in their own way.

The point is that Mackellar’s paean to an Australian Australia – a novel notion in 1908, when England was “home,” though not to Mackellar who was a third-generation Australian, and still so today, 114 years later, for some – is not only an inspiration but is also descriptive of the facts: Australia is precisely a land of drought and flooding rains, as we are constantly reminded.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 30, 2022 9:13 am

Two car bombs in Somalia kill 30.
The livestock and people are starving but the jihad is thriving.

shatterzzz
October 30, 2022 9:16 am

If Peter Dutton can keep his team together, while also presenting a clear alternative to a government that’s let people down, victory in 2025 has suddenly become a distinct possibility.

A top contender for joke-of-the-week getting in very early .. LOL!

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 9:18 am

Solid state batteries, according to Musk, will get us to the 1000 mile range. The battery pack will be lighter and cheaper. Once that happens , it pretty much spells the end of the combustion engine.

Keep this in mind, solid state will mean much safer batteries, potentially 1000 mike range , shortened recharge time, longer life, and cheaper cost.

m0nty
m0nty
October 30, 2022 9:18 am

If Peter Dutton can keep his team together, while also presenting a clear alternative to a government that’s let people down, victory in 2025 has suddenly become a distinct possibility.

LOL. Credlin’s message to the Liberals is to not change at all, just hope that Labor stuffs up. Good advice love. That will really fix everything.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 30, 2022 9:22 am

So the left have set up a new version of Twitter, calling it Tribal Social.

I know they spell it ‘Tribel’, but these are the people who think education means seeing racism in the rules of Tennis without knowing the rules of tennis. Writing words without them spelling those words is par for the course.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 30, 2022 9:23 am

Rowan Dean on renewable energy schemes.
“It’s not a white elephant, it’s a herd of friggin’ white elephants.”
I’m using that.

Mater
October 30, 2022 9:24 am

All I can say about last nights stoush (other than 240 to 630 k is NOT a 260% increase) is that the range of an EV is not a good indicator of improving battery tech. Many other factors come into play including aerodynamics, electric motor and drive train efficiencies, weight, etc, but the biggest factor is battery size.

The first production Tesla had a range of 393km (not 240K) and used a 53kWh battery. The latest Teslas (which are supposedly tapping 640km range) use a 100kWh battery. I’m sure gains in efficiency have been achieved (just as sure as the fact that these ‘efficiency increases’ will hit a brick wall – something that even Tesla admits), but raw size matters when it comes to range, as do all the other factors.

It’s not all about battery chemistry with EV range, in fact, it seems that very little of it is. If people are going to argue strictly about the improvement battery tech (or lack thereof), ‘vehicle’ range is not the appropriate unit of measure. Energy density might be a start.

Cassie of Sydney
October 30, 2022 9:26 am

“LOL. Credlin’s message to the Liberals is to not change at all, just hope that Labor stuffs up. Good advice love. That will really fix everything.”

You clearly can’t read. As for “love”….sneering misogyny there.

Oh….punched any Nazis today?

Roger
Roger
October 30, 2022 9:29 am

The four IS women have arrived in Sydney wearing sad sacks.

Deradicalised?

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 30, 2022 9:29 am

Ed Casesays:
October 30, 2022 at 9:01 am
Sky’s analysis of the budget is that household power prices will rise 80% in the next 18 months.
The sky is falling in too.
Here’s a few tips:
Don’t turn the lights on when you don’t need to
Use a rechargeable torch at night.
Go to bed at 8 o’clock.
Eat steak, it only takes a few minutes to cook.
Turn the Idiot box off, put it on the footpath.
Gas hot water.

ROFLMAO. The Liars Party shill busy trying to evade the reality of a broken promise based on 2021 modeling that “assumed” that ruinables would provide 82% of the electricity market by 2025. (Or, at least, that is what Homer P claims.)

PS, how is the rechargeable torch recharged? Unicorn farts?

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 30, 2022 9:31 am

Farmer Gezsays:
October 30, 2022 at 9:09 am
Gas for hot water

Where you gettin’ that gas from Willis?

Methane collected from the arses of dairy cattle? Unicorn farts?

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 30, 2022 9:32 am

Where you gettin’ that gas from Willis?

You’ll have to buy Dr Ed’s Formulas for Home and Workshop to find out.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 30, 2022 9:32 am

QUESTION ASKED AND (POSSIBLY) ANSWERED:

Shot:

Yo what kind of home invasions include bathroom breaks??

Chaser:

The reason the ridiculous story they’re spinning about Paul Pelosi makes zero sense – is because it’s probably all bullsh@t.

Hangover:

Report: Paul Pelosi ‘sounded somewhat confused’, referred to attacker as ‘friend’ during 911 call.

—The Post Millenial, today.

The D.T.s:

They are doing the Sarah Palin thing all over again and it reeks of dishonest desperation.

Last year, Kevin McCarthy joked that if he became the next leader of the House, “it will be hard not to hit” Nancy Pelosi with the speaker’s gavel. Then, on Friday, a man broke into Pelosi’s house and attacked her husband w a hammer. https://washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/29/paul-pelosi-attack-republicans-target/

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 30, 2022 9:33 am

JCsays:
October 30, 2022 at 9:18 am
Solid state batteries, according to Musk, will get us to the 1000 mile range. The battery pack will be lighter and cheaper. Once that happens , it pretty much spells the end of the combustion engine.

Keep this in mind, solid state will mean much safer batteries, potentially 1000 mike range , shortened recharge time, longer life, and cheaper cost.

Will they be commercially available before fusion reactors?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 30, 2022 9:36 am

Musk is a great salesman.
Solid state lithium batteries that are up to the task of driving large vehicles reliably in all weathers is not here yet. Not saying they don’t get there but hype is ahead of the manufacture.

m0nty
m0nty
October 30, 2022 9:37 am

Yeah Cranky, the Libs should listen to Credlin. It’s the teals who are wrong. Just wait for the green new deal to fail, and you can waltz back in to government and reclaim all those blue ribbon seats!

Sounds like a beaut plan.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 30, 2022 9:37 am

Of droughts and flooding rains.

Yeah, but ‘this time its different’ right?… for a start, them flooding rains aren’t going to fill our dams or river systems ever again….

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 9:37 am

B John.
Toyota has an experimental car going now using solid state batteries.

Fusion will come too. I’m optimistic we will see an experimental reactor this decade and commercial application probably about 20 years later.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 30, 2022 9:37 am

There’s Something Weird About the Pelosi Home Invasion Story

BY MATT MARGOLIS 4:24 PM ON OCTOBER 29, 2022

Remember when a Bernie Sanders supporter shot at Republicans practicing for the congressional baseball game back in 2017? That was a pretty straightforward case of political violence — even if the mainstream media buried the shooter’s political motivations.

But this Pelosi home invasion story is not so straightforward. In fact, as details emerge, it’s clear that there is something… a little off in the details.

Make no mistake about it, the mainstream media and the Democrats are trying desperately to pin the incident on Donald Trump and the Republican Party, whom they claim have normalized political violence.

Rep. Steve Scalise might have a few words to say on that issue. We’re supposed to forget that liberals nationwide cheered the congressional baseball shooting incident that nearly killed him. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and the Rubio volunteer who was brutally beaten last week may have something to say too.

Many on the left, including Nancy Pelosi’s daughter, condoned the assault on Rand Paul that left him with several broken ribs. “Rand Paul’s neighbor was right,” Christine Pelosi tweeted in March 2020.

You haven’t seen any Republicans praising the assault on Christine Pelosi’s father, though.

Still, as the media attempts to blame the GOP for what happened to Paul Pelosi, details have emerged that not only belie the notion he’s a right-winger but are also, frankly, just bizarre.

As PJM’s Rick Moran previously reported, David DePape, the man who assaulted Pelosi, appears to have been a supporter of Black Lives Matter and LGBTQ causes, as well as a nudist activist, and reportedly struggled with drug abuse. According to the San Francisco Chronicle, DePape was a member of the far-leftist Green Party but also has embraced conspiracy theories largely linked to conservatives, like Q-Anon, but his politics are likely irrelevant because, based on a wide array of reports, DePape is clearly mentally ill and not motivated by a coherent political ideology.

One detail that struck many as bizarre is the reports that DePape was wearing nothing but his underwear when police arrived on the scene — though KTVU, the local FOX affiliate in San Francisco, has retracted that claim. It’s not clear, however, given his nudist activism, whether that means he was wearing more or less clothing.

And then there’s an ambiguous line from a Politico report that indicated that officers arrived “were let inside by an unknown person.” It is not clear who the unknown person is, but it apparently was neither the suspect nor the victim.

The story gets weirder still, as reports that Mr. Pelosi allegedly was able to make an emergency call from the bathroom where his phone had been charging. According to audio of the police dispatch to the Pelosi home, the supposed emergency call had identified the suspect as a friend.

“He states there is a male in the home and that he is going to wait for his wife. He stated that he doesn’t know who the male is but that his name is David and that he is a friend. He sounded somewhat confused.”

It seems unlikely that DePape would be considered a “friend” of the Pelosis, considering he’s a homeless drug addict. Pelosi could have been trying to signal to the 911 operator that he was in trouble. However, some on social media have hypothesized that Paul and DePape’s argument is more personal in nature. It seems unlikely that there was no security at the home that would have triggered the moment of the break-in. As such, some believe the reason is that the pair knew each other already. There has been no confirmation of this theory, however.

Despite this, there appears to be a never-ending supply of weird details coming out regarding this story, which leads to a great deal of confusion. There is a good chance that many of these are not true; therefore, individuals on both sides ought to withhold judgment before coming to any conclusions. But the most sickening thing is the way the left is trying to exploit this to attack Republicans despite the fact that DePape was clearly mentally ill and does not appear at this time to have been motivated by any particular political doctrine.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 30, 2022 9:38 am

Solid state batteries, according to Musk, will get us to the 1000 mile range. The battery pack will be lighter and cheaper. Once that happens , it pretty much spells the end of the combustion engine.

Yep, should be invented any second now…

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 30, 2022 9:38 am

m0ntysays:
October 30, 2022 at 9:18 am
If Peter Dutton can keep his team together, while also presenting a clear alternative to a government that’s let people down, victory in 2025 has suddenly become a distinct possibility.

LOL. Credlin’s message to the Liberals is to not change at all, just hope that Labor stuffs up. Good advice love. That will really fix everything.

A Liars stuff-up is as much a certainty as a Lieboral stuff-up.

Credlin is wroong about not changing, there is a new group of “Forgotted People”, ready for a good olitical pitch. Neither the Liars nor the Lieborals are capable of making that pitch.

PS, m0nty-fa, still no response about your earlier pathetic attempt to minimise the political reality of the Scalise shooting by a Bernie Bro? You know, the shooting that you dismissed as only a minor wound, when Scalise nearly died.

And your casual dismissal of an assault causing GBH to Rand Paul?

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 9:40 am

m0nty says:
October 30, 2022 at 9:37 am

Yeah Cranky, the Libs should listen to Credlin. It’s the teals who are wrong. Just wait for the green new deal to fail, and you can waltz back in to government and reclaim all those blue ribbon seats!

Sounds like a beaut plan.

Not will fail,fatboy. It is failing right now before our very eyes and bank accounts. No one is going to tolerate energy prices going up 85%, which means doubling.

duncanm
duncanm
October 30, 2022 9:41 am

duncanmsays:
October 30, 2022 at 8:47 am
DePape. This is so blindingly, obviously, a fake.

https://web.archive.org/web/20221028191401/https://godisloving.wordpress.com/category/articles/page/7/

mmm. .that link now broken. Following works:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220000000000*/https://godisloving.wordpress.com/

Note that the page wasn’t even in existence until 28th Oct 2022!

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 30, 2022 9:41 am

Where you gettin’ that gas from Willis?
Out west somewhere, there’s a heap of Gas Mines.
And they laid these pipelines to Brissie about 40 years ago, turn it on and Presto, hot water.
Propane works too.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 9:43 am

Yep, should be invented any second now…

Duk, A few people here have learned the hard way not to bet against Musk. Don’t be one of those people.

And as I said, Toyota has an experimental car running on solid state batteries right now.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 30, 2022 9:45 am

Cassie of Sydneysays:
October 30, 2022 at 9:26 am
“LOL. Credlin’s message to the Liberals is to not change at all, just hope that Labor stuffs up. Good advice love. That will really fix everything.”

You clearly can’t read. As for “love”….sneering misogyny there.

Oh….punched any Nazis today?

m0nty-fa sub-contracts the Nazi punching to Ante-fa (comes before fascism). But he likes tom watch, or sneer from afar (see also the Rand Paul and Scalise incidents).

Also, there is a good article on the Rise of Fascism at Spiked. It would be educational for m0nty-fa, but he would not like the information presented.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 30, 2022 9:45 am

I’m waiting on the Musk semi.
Could work but would rely on battery swap servos rather than charging points.
A roll out, roll in battery might work but it’s not a job for any old truckie. Big batteries produce big current.
Wear and tear on an electrical system in a truck would also be a problem to tackle.
Equipment in your car that lasts for a decade will break down in a few years in a truck.

Cassie of Sydney
October 30, 2022 9:46 am

“m0ntysays:
October 30, 2022 at 9:37 am
Yeah Cranky, the Libs should listen to Credlin. It’s the teals who are wrong. Just wait for the green new deal to fail, and you can waltz back in to government and reclaim all those blue ribbon seats!

Sounds like a beaut plan.”

Actually fat fascist fuckwit, once again you show you can’t read and have serious comprehension problems. I’ve never said the Liberals will “waltz bank in government and reclaim all those blue ribbon seats”.

Oh….and punched any Nazis today? Still early, off you go.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 30, 2022 9:48 am

Half the biggest squarkers on here live out in the scrub with no town power anyway.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 30, 2022 9:48 am

Atmospheric gas percentages (approx.)
CO2 0.04%
Methane CH4 0.00018%

Dry air, In the real world water vapour messes with the numbers.

So let’s get this right. These two gases at 0.04028% are drivers of the climate and are going to destroy life on earth.

Who woulda guessed?

Mater
October 30, 2022 9:50 am

Half the biggest squarkers on here live out in the scrub with no town power anyway.

You are a rolled gold drongo.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 30, 2022 9:52 am

Ed Casesays:
October 30, 2022 at 9:41 am
Where you gettin’ that gas from Willis?
Out west somewhere, there’s a heap of Gas Mines.
And they laid these pipelines to Brissie about 40 years ago, turn it on and Presto, hot water.
Propane works too.

And just like that, with a casual wave of a hand, Richard Cranium has solved the problem of rising energy costs in Australia.

duncanm
duncanm
October 30, 2022 9:53 am

Whenever there’s some call to the Gaia god about climate events, I remember back to learning about how the vast civilisation of the Classic Maya collapsed in about 800-1000 AD due to a catastrophic period of drought.
The Maya were then hit again in about 1400 AD with similar events and abandoned their cities.

The Nazca also collapsed finally around 750 AD after being hit by large flooding from El Nina events circa 600 AD.

But yeh — CO2.

m0nty
m0nty
October 30, 2022 9:53 am

I don’t care what you think Cranky. Credlin is far more influential than you. If she says that the Libs need to do nothing, that sounds like an excellent strategy to me.

MatrixTransform
October 30, 2022 9:54 am

Solid state batteries, according to Musk

more like Musk … according to JC

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 9:55 am

Farmer Gez says:
October 30, 2022 at 9:45 am

I’m waiting on the Musk semi.
Could work but would rely on battery swap servos rather than charging points.
A roll out, roll in battery might work but it’s not a job for any old truckie. Big batteries produce big current.
Wear and tear on an electrical system in a truck would also be a problem to tackle.
Equipment in your car that lasts for a decade will break down in a few years in a truck.

This is where economic efficiency comes into play. The technology doesn’t have to be straight out radical, it just has to be cheaper. Cheaper to allow replacements beating the cost of the old tech.

Cassie of Sydney
October 30, 2022 9:56 am

“I don’t care what you think Cranky. Credlin is far more influential than you. If she says that the Libs need to do nothing, that sounds like an excellent strategy to me.

I don’t care what you think either fat fascist fuckwit. Keep up the comprehension failure fuckwit.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 30, 2022 9:56 am

Yeah, here’s a typical example:
People won’t put up with it anymore, blood in the streets, pollies hanging from telegraph poles, drag queen story hour, I’m angry, buy more ammo, baked beans …. etc. …
Author: some clown living in the scrub 80 miles from nowhere

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
October 30, 2022 9:56 am

incoherent rambler says:
October 30, 2022 at 9:48 am

Atmospheric gas percentages (approx.)
CO2 0.04%
Methane CH4 0.00018%

Dry air, In the real world water vapour messes with the numbers.

So let’s get this right. These two gases at 0.04028% are drivers of the climate and are going to destroy life on earth.

Who woulda guessed?

Careful Rambler, any intelligent comments on Gerbil Warming will be met with shaming and possible prison sentences.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 9:59 am

The four IS women have arrived in Sydney wearing sad sacks.
Deradicalised?

To be fair, weren’t they going to Haberfield? Perhaps they had already changed on the plane.

MatrixTransform
October 30, 2022 9:59 am

Will they be commercially available before fusion reactors?

everybody who pays for a return trip to Mars on a Musk rocket gets a free solid-state battery

but everybody who has a 7yo Tesla, doesn’t

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 9:59 am

Marvin

Have you every anything to add other than low IQ putdowns disguised as pithy? Seriously, just fuck off and go solder a pipe you low watt imbecile. You never have a single thing to add to any discussion because you’re a pipe soldering imbecile with a chip on each shoulder. Just fuck off as you won’t be missed. No one in 3 months time is going to say…

Oh, I miss Magic Marvin’s insights and intelligent discourse.

If they did, it would be sarc or a lie.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
October 30, 2022 10:00 am

Mmmmmm yummy meme;

comment image?w=1024&dpr=1&q=75

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 10:04 am

everybody who pays for a return trip to Mars on a Musk rocket gets a free solid-state battery

but everybody who has a 7yo Tesla, doesn’t

Smart, pithy and very insightful. As you said, this is a great gift on building sites.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 30, 2022 10:06 am

Institute of Public Affairs

Rainfall and Volcanic Activity

Large volcanic eruptions, especially those that occur within low latitudes, can have
a great impact on the global climate19-21. Sulphur-rich gases are injected into the
stratosphere, where they evolve into sulphate aerosols20. These aerosols scatter and
absorb solar radiation, and therefore perturb the energy balance of the planet,
affecting global climate. As a result, global-mean surface temperature decreases while
the lower stratosphere warms. For example, the 1991 eruption of Mt. Pinatubo in the
Philippines produced one of the greatest volcanic aerosols in the last hundred years,
with the estimated net decrease of radiation reaching 10% in the tropics22.

These radiative and thermal perturbations can in turn lead to changes in various
components of the global climate system23. For example, studies have shown evidence
that volcanic eruptions can lead to both enhancement and suppression of ENSO
events23,24. Some investigations have associated volcanic eruptions with increased
rainfall and flooding25,26, while other studies show evidence for decreased rainfall27,28,29.

The Tonga volcanic eruption of 2022 has been confirmed as the largest explosive
eruption of the 21st century, and on par with the biggest eruptions ever recorded30
and possible influences on climate have been discussed by the BOM31. The estimated
volume of ejected material was approximately 10 cubic kilometers, generating an
atmospheric shock wave that circled the world several times, and producing an
ash plume half the size of France. The eruption was equivalent in strength to the
cataclysmic 1991 eruption of Mount Pinatubo in the Philippines, with one such eruption
expected once every 50-100 years.

The volcanic eruption in Tonga and its influence on rainfall over eastern Australia
in February 2022 would be regarded as a sporadic event, not predicted in ANN
rainfall forecasts for Gympie with lead times in the range 12 months to 60 months.

Inspection of Figure 4 showing monthly rainfall for August from 1870 to 2921 shows
extremely high rainfall of 454.7mm in 1879, compared to the mean value of 39.5 mm.

It is interesting that 1879 is considered to be a year of particularly eventful in terms of
volcanic activity32, and this may explain the very high rainfall during August.

MatrixTransform
October 30, 2022 10:06 am

This is where economic efficiency comes into play. The technology doesn’t have to be straight out radical, it just has to be cheaper. Cheaper to allow replacements beating the cost of the old tech.

well. there it is. the dumbest fucking thing I’ve heard all year

we need a new metric …. how about IQ per dollar

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 30, 2022 10:06 am

The remnants of the old lighting plants can still be found on rural properties.
The block for the motor and the graphite cathodes from the batteries lay around.
Your own home power system, it’s the way of the future.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 10:06 am

Tough night to be on night shift.

132andBush
132andBush
October 30, 2022 10:08 am

Ed Case says:
October 30, 2022 at 9:01 am
Sky’s analysis of the budget is that household power prices will rise 80% in the next 18 months.
The sky is falling in too.
Here’s a few tips:
Don’t turn the lights on when you don’t need to
Use a rechargeable torch at night.
Go to bed at 8 o’clock.
Eat steak, it only takes a few minutes to cook.
Turn the Idiot box off, put it on the footpath.
Gas hot water.

Also, don’t leave the lights on when no one’s at home.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 30, 2022 10:09 am

The Pelosi attack is fake
[according to Miles Mathis] http://mileswmathis.com/pelosi.pdf

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 10:10 am

well. there it is. the dumbest fucking thing I’ve heard all year

we need a new metric …. how about IQ per dollar

Smart, pithy and very insightful. As you said, this is a great gift on building sites.

But no explanation why you think that. That’s because you don’t have one except to run down other people’s comments.

Head back to the therapy site and tell us another one of your happy family stories, you dickhead.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 10:11 am

Last job at night was always turn off the generator. Walk back to bed by torchlight with the wind whistling through the sheoaks. Battery radio in the morning. Diesel and dust.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 10:11 am

H B Bear says:
October 30, 2022 at 10:06 am

Tough night to be on night shift.

What’s more entertaining Bear? Your 200 comments a day about Mr Ed or shoveling Magic Marvin into a ditch?

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 30, 2022 10:12 am

m0ntysays:
October 30, 2022 at 9:53 am
I don’t care what you think Cranky. Credlin is far more influential than you. If she says that the Libs need to do nothing, that sounds like an excellent strategy to me.

Well, it worked for AnAl.

Dot
Dot
October 30, 2022 10:14 am

Batteries are a joke.

There isn’t enough material to make the batteries. We’d have to mine for ages to have enough. We can’t replace all fossil fuels. Not without a huge lead time.

The embedded costs of production mean they’re net carbon polluters, more so than fossil fuel cars!

Nuclear is the way. Nuclear power could enable atmospheric replacements for fossil fuels, liquid fuels like diethyl ether to replace diesel.

We will never run out of thorium bar building billions of interstellar spaceships, so we’re a long way off that possibility thus far.

At scale, it will be the cheapest if all because it has the best energy density and is far more common than uranium.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2022 10:15 am

Could work but would rely on battery swap servos rather than charging points.

I haven’t seen anything about the legal issues. Who owns the battery if there’s a problem? Trucks would have old batteries and new batteries on the same trip, as swap-outs are done. If a battery fails who has to pay for it, the truckie? That’s so not going to happen. Insurance? That’s a minefield. And battery fires causing truck write-offs would lend themselves to a lot of mutual lawsuits as the various players argue about the costs and liability.

Fighting a truck battery fire would be quite entertaining. Can’t dump it into a big tub of water like some firefighters do with electric cars. And the fire would be so enormous it’d burn a large hole in the highway.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 30, 2022 10:15 am

“Sky’s analysis of the budget is that household power prices will rise 80% in the next 18 months.”

That will be one of the outcomes.

The other, rolling blackouts and brownouts – followed by ‘communidy batteries’ and ‘demand management’ at a small enterprise level.

Credlin touches on this, but unreliable and intermittent power (and the central planning ‘solutions’ that will be imposed) will have a far wider impact on Australians than just price.

Sorry. Don’t come in today: we’re scheduled ‘Off’.”

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 30, 2022 10:15 am

Ed Casesays:
October 30, 2022 at 9:56 am
Yeah, here’s a typical example:
People won’t put up with it anymore, blood in the streets, pollies hanging from telegraph poles, drag queen story hour, I’m angry, buy more ammo, baked beans …. etc. …
Author: some clown living in the scrub 80 miles from nowhere

Not only can the Great, the Magnificent, Richard Cranium read minds from 1000 kms away, but he can also divine from pixels on a screen the residential location of a commenter, but only in Imperial measures. C’est magnifique!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 30, 2022 10:17 am

Even Institute of Public Affairs PDF of 21 Pages

A LAND OF DROUGHTS AND FLOODING RAINS:
FORECASTING RAINFALL AT LONG LEAD TIMES

on Page 2 has

The love of field and coppice Of green and shaded lanes,
Of ordered woods and gardens Is running in your veins.
Strong love of grey-blue distance, Brown streams and soft, dim skies I know, but cannot share it,
My love is otherwise.

I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of droughts and flooding rains.
I love her far horizons,
I love her jewel-sea,
Her beauty and her terror
The wide brown land for me…
An opal-hearted country,
A wilful, lavish land
All you who have not loved her,
You will not understand
though Earth holds many splendours, Wherever I may die,
I know to what brown country
My homing thoughts will fly.

– My Country, Dorothea Mackellar (1908).

More IPA commentary on this poem can be found at
https://australia.ipa.org.au/genius-of-australia/

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 10:18 am

Well, it worked for AnAl.

Waiting for the others to fall over is fine but it can take a while : see Hawke/Keating, Howard, Wran, Chairman Dan and Emperor Barney. Albo is more KRudd than Hawke. Some policy work in Opposition is always appreciated.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 30, 2022 10:19 am

The remnants of the old lighting plants can still be found on rural properties.

If you were really upmarket, you had a 240 volt generator – most had 32 volt, with all that that entailed.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 30, 2022 10:19 am

You can rebuild a truck motor but what happens to electric motors?
I’ve heard of re-spinning small electric motors.

MatrixTransform
October 30, 2022 10:20 am

But no explanation why you think that. That’s because you don’t have one except to run down other people’s comments.

dear JC,
it needs no explanation and collapses beautifully under its own weight
increasing entropy everywhere

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 30, 2022 10:20 am

Re-winding is the term I’m thinking of.

Dot
Dot
October 30, 2022 10:21 am

Let’s all pray for Anthony Albanese and his women problem.

I’m glad he acknowledged his misogyny.

Women are above criticism or accountability.

Let that be a lesson to all of you fascist pigs.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 10:27 am

I haven’t seen anything about the legal issues. Who owns the battery if there’s a problem? Trucks would have old batteries and new batteries on the same trip, as swap-outs are done. If a battery fails who has to pay for it, the truckie? That’s so not going to happen. Insurance? That’s a minefield. And battery fires causing truck write-offs would lend themselves to a lot of mutual lawsuits as the various players argue about the costs and liability.

Yeah Fester, you totally fucked up on the EV story telling us Tesla was going to go broke and batteries weren’t going to advance in range. Now you’re implying legal hurdles are insurmountable. Go feed the birds.

Jorge
Jorge
October 30, 2022 10:28 am

rosie says:
October 30, 2022 at 6:26 am
Melbourne Cup form guide

Ta, Rosie.

Everything I’ve listened to seems to say the favourite has it run and won already.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 10:31 am

dear JC,
it needs no explanation and collapses beautifully under its own weight
increasing entropy everywhere

I’m just going to paste this now.

Smart, pithy and very insightful. As you said, this is a great gift on building sites.

The quickest wit on building sites.

m0nty
m0nty
October 30, 2022 10:38 am

Albo is more KRudd than Hawke.

He is trying hard to be Hawke with a consensus style, but he is hanging on for grim death on those upper class tax cuts, like Rudd did. The latter would be a similar mistake.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2022 10:41 am

Dot – I quite like unconventional fusion, like these guys are working on. Lithium burning.

The neutron capture cross-section for lithium is fairly large as I recall – indeed that’s how tritium is manufactured. Li-n would be easier than Li-p (or Li-d) because of the electrostatic issue. Accelerator supply of neutrons, protons or deuterons to a lithium metal target would be a useful on/off fusion producer, and the metallic lithium would be its own heat transfer fluid.

None of this is happening yet though, at least not at large scale.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 10:41 am

He is trying hard to be Hawke with a consensus style, but he is hanging on for grim death on those upper class tax cuts, like Rudd did. The latter would be a similar mistake.

He should raise taxes in order to pay for the biggest theft in the Western world that will send us broke. NDIS is the biggest heist ever sprung on a citizenry.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 10:42 am

Dot – I quite like unconventional fusion, like these guys are working on.

That’s a goer then. For sure.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 30, 2022 10:47 am

I have a question for the volcano knowledgeable.
The huge amounts of sulphur, chlorine and carbon dioxide that are pumped out by volcanoes.
Where does the sulphur and carbon come from?
i.e. how deep?

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 10:48 am

This is getting really weird. There were three people in the house then.

David DePape forced his way into the home through a back entrance, Scott said. Officers arrived at the house, knocked on the front door and were let inside by an unknown person. They discovered DePape and Pelosi struggling for a hammer, and after they instructed them to drop the weapon, Scott said, DePape took the hammer and “violently attacked” Pelosi.

Was the “unknown person” a maid possibly?

MatrixTransform
October 30, 2022 10:49 am

The quickest wit on building sites.

quicker than yours you sad tosser

gawd listen to that increasing whining noise

… I’ll have you saying Uncle next

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 10:50 am

Albo is more KRudd than Hawke.

I meant it just as a time comparison. The KRudd and Albo Cabinets show similar depth- that is none.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 10:51 am

quicker than yours you sad tosser

Okay, now head back to the therapy site. There’s a new session starting soon.

local oaf
October 30, 2022 10:54 am

Farmer Gez says:
October 30, 2022 at 10:20 am

Re-winding is the term I’m thinking of.

You can re-wind small domestic electric motors, with the necessary skills, materials and equipment. Quite time consuming and expensive though.

I suspect an EV motor might be way more complex and uneconomic to re-wind.
They probably think you’ll trash the vehicle when the first battery replacement occurs.

Roger
Roger
October 30, 2022 10:55 am

The Australian Energy Regulator has reportedly warned the government that if it intends to intervene on energy prices it will have to act before November, as new contracts for 2023 are being signed at a rapid pace.

What a way to run a country.

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 10:56 am

Ed Casesays:
October 30, 2022 at 9:56 am
Yeah, here’s a typical example:
People won’t put up with it anymore, blood in the streets, pollies hanging from telegraph poles, drag queen story hour, I’m angry, buy more ammo, baked beans …. etc. …
Author: some clown living in the scrub 80 miles from nowhere

Don’t worry Head Case and a Suitable Case for Treatment, the Men in White Coats will be around shortly to take you away to join up with MontyPox Virus for a few years of contemplation.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 10:57 am

You kids stay off JC’s lawn. Or green painted concrete. Whatever, just stay off it.

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 10:59 am

Rogersays:
October 30, 2022 at 10:55 am
The Australian Energy Regulator has reportedly warned the government that if it intends to intervene on energy prices it will have to act before November, as new contracts for 2023 are being signed at a rapid pace.

What a way to run a country.

LayBore Playbook 101. Run the Country into the ground………………………………….

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 30, 2022 10:59 am

What a way to run a country.

You assume that someone runs it.
There are only idiots in the drivers seat.

MatrixTransform
October 30, 2022 10:59 am

JC,

at this point its getting hard to distinguish you and sancho from mUnty

therapy is prompting youse into making increasing idiotic pronouncements

doesn’t take much

now try not to spazz out all day

m0nty
m0nty
October 30, 2022 11:04 am

The KRudd and Albo Cabinets show similar depth- that is none.

Rudd’s cabinet had a lot of depth, the problem was Rudd wanted to run everything. I am sure in his quiet moments Kevin let out a low whistle at Morrison’s plan to obtain every single ministerial post by secret, bit of “why didn’t I think of that” running through his brain.

Albo’s cabinet is untested,we shall see what their capabilities are over the course of the next two terms. They won’t have to try hard to be better than the previous shower of idiots.

Roger
Roger
October 30, 2022 11:04 am

There are only idiots in the drivers seat.

That was implied.

LayBore Playbook 101. Run the Country into the ground…

Scotty & “Josh” did a pretty good job of that before they handed the wheel over.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2022 11:04 am

The Australian Energy Regulator has reportedly warned the government that if it intends to intervene on energy prices it will have to act before November, as new contracts for 2023 are being signed at a rapid pace.

What a way to run a country.

In the last 30 years the engineers and tradies (who actually designed and built something the works) have been frozen out by economists and lawyers. We now have a lawyers’ mindset that if you legislate, you can override the laws of physics. Policy is being driven by eloi who have no concept of basic high school physics. As for Hilmer, just look what happened when they actually put in charge of a business.

132andBush
132andBush
October 30, 2022 11:05 am

Were early automobiles subsidised in order for them to replace the horse?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 11:06 am

Australian Energy Regulator – “The market’s fucked. You’ve got to get some price controls to fix it quickly.”

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 11:07 am

He should raise taxes in order to pay for the biggest theft in the Western world that will send us broke. NDIS is the biggest heist ever sprung on a citizenry.

100% and it is NOT AN INSURANCE SCHEME. An INSURANCE SCHEME is FUNDED. This is a Scheme alright. Robbing Peter to pay Paul.

– Socialist Economics 101

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 11:08 am

Scotty & “Josh” did a pretty good job of that before they handed the wheel over.

Mate. They treated Australia like a rental.

Roger
Roger
October 30, 2022 11:09 am

Australian Energy Regulator – “The market’s fucked…”

OK…who’s responsible for this? Step forward…

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 30, 2022 11:10 am

Was the “unknown person” a maid possibly?
Not at that time of night.
Mathis speculates that it was Capitol Police.
Nancy is #3 in line after Joe, so Capitol Police will be present in the home, whether or not Nancy is there at the time.
Also some doubt about the Gay angle, now DePape has been IDed as a Right Wing Kook.

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 11:10 am

132andBushsays:
October 30, 2022 at 11:05 am
Were early automobiles subsidised in order for them to replace the horse?

Great observation and I love the comment. The transition always happens as the Consumer makes the choice.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2022 11:10 am

It’s really unfortunate that 2022 didn’t happen in 2016.

Roger
Roger
October 30, 2022 11:11 am

it is NOT AN INSURANCE SCHEME. An INSURANCE SCHEME is FUNDED.

That was my first question when I heard the “NDIS” proposal.

Who’s paying the premiums?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2022 11:11 am

wut da fuk rong wit u

mong

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 11:12 am

Rudd’s cabinet had a lot of depth, …

I think some of us are going to require some specifics here.

Roger
Roger
October 30, 2022 11:13 am

Mate. They treated Australia like a rental.

And who was in the back seat along for the ride?

Lurch.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 30, 2022 11:15 am

You can rebuild a truck motor but what happens to electric motors?
I’ve heard of re-spinning small electric motors.

Small electric motors are usually disposable items – if a simple 5hp single phase motor fails, it’s a $500 replacement vs $2000++ strip down (if it can be done non- destructively) and rewind.

Larger and 3 phase motors are usually exchange and factory rewind if they are still in production. Odd, old, or complicated motors can be very expensive to have stripped down and rewound.

Last year I had a failure with a 50 year old motor which mated directly with a gearbox casing – unsurprisingly, the quotes for the cost of the rewind were fairly eye watering.

MatrixTransform
October 30, 2022 11:17 am

Batteries are a joke

for jonnyRotten:

just found two lumps on my car battery
got them tested and one came back positive.
its terminal

Makka
Makka
October 30, 2022 11:18 am

The battery pack will be lighter and cheaper. Once that happens , it pretty much spells the end of the combustion engine.

Battery replacements? Cost? Life? Vehicle depreciation/ resale value?

Before predicting the end , it would be helpful to know the owning and operating costs.

And at the end of the 1000k can you “fill up” somewhere convenient and quick?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 11:18 am

There does not seem to be much indication of stepping up to the plate. He is certainly hiding those rock ribbed Conservative values under a bushel.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 11:19 am

132andBush says:
October 30, 2022 at 11:05 am

Were early automobiles subsidised in order for them to replace the horse?

They arrived just in time otherwise they would’ve had to. The horse shit on city roads was unbearable. And imagine the stench?

Bush, you keep asserting you’re a very smart fellow, would a 7K subsidy sway your decision in favor of a Tesla? Also, stop being so blind. Subsidizing car manufacturers in the West has been full time occupation for governments since WW2.

Australia

From July 2022, buyers of new or used battery-electric, fuel-cell and plug-in hybrids will receive a $1500 discount in stamp duty and free registration for the next five years.

MatrixTransform
October 30, 2022 11:19 am

sancho … do you have a pull-string like a doll?

you seem make the same stupid noises every day

say something about Japan … it will be soooo witty and clever

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2022 11:20 am

Mate. They treated Australia like a rental.

They use Australia as a stepping stone to fame and fortune on the world stage. Very few run for office with a view to serve Australia and its people.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2022 11:21 am

it is NOT AN INSURANCE SCHEME. An INSURANCE SCHEME is FUNDED.

That was my first question when I heard the “NDIS” proposal.

I’ve wondered the same thing

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 11:21 am

Sancho Panzer says:
October 30, 2022 at 11:11 am

wut da fuk rong wit u

mong

Building site lingo?

Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2022 11:23 am

m0ntysays:
October 30, 2022 at 11:04 am
The KRudd and Albo Cabinets show similar depth- that is none.

Rudd’s cabinet had a lot of depth, the problem was Rudd wanted to run everything. I am sure in his quiet moments Kevin let out a low whistle at Morrison’s plan to obtain every single ministerial post by secret, bit of “why didn’t I think of that” running through his brain.

Albo’s cabinet is untested,we shall see what their capabilities are over the course of the next two terms. They won’t have to try hard to be better than the previous shower of idiots.

LOL. The KRUDD’s Cabinet had a lot of depth as they were 10 feet under water most of the time. Pink Batts, Clunkers, NBN and the rest of the money wasting. In 2007 Australia had NO DEBT and there was money (taxpayer money) in the Bank…………………………………..

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