Open Thread – Tues 8 Nov 2022


Suicide of Saul, Pieter Bruegel, 1562


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Tom
Tom
November 11, 2022 4:16 am
Tom
Tom
November 11, 2022 4:17 am
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 11, 2022 6:07 am

Bing Bong!
Wakey, wakey everyone.
Bing Bong!

Anchor What
Anchor What
November 11, 2022 6:13 am

Red wave diluted by Blue ballot dumps and more of the Drop And Roll tactic used in 2020. Arizona stalling Lake votes.
Various reports via Gateway Pundit.

Anchor What
Anchor What
November 11, 2022 6:18 am

Leak nails it again!

sfw
sfw
November 11, 2022 6:22 am

Re getting people to fight for Australia in a war. I can’t see how it can be done for more than a few days, even if we had a million man army.

We have almost zero manufacturing capacity, we have no oil refining and little storage capacity, we keep our oil reserve on the other side of the world. Logistics win wars and we have no way to keep an army in the field. Even if all our baristas and social science students enlisted and made great soldiers we still couldn’t defend ourselves for more than a few hours.

The yanks showed what a well equipped army can do in Desert Storm, I doubt that we would last as long as the Iraqis.

rosie
rosie
November 11, 2022 6:34 am
calli
calli
November 11, 2022 6:37 am

I see many of the cartoonists have taken the safe option – blame Trump.

caveman
caveman
November 11, 2022 6:40 am

Re getting people to fight for Australia in a war. I can’t see how it can be done for more than a few days, even if we had a million man army.

Do it all with memes now. Poorer countries use #.

rosie
rosie
November 11, 2022 6:44 am

Danctimonious makes out the reason he doesn’t have solar panels on his home is because he’s leaving a spot in the rebate scheme for someone more needy.
He’s a perpetual motion sick maker.
I can’t believe anyone votes for him.

Daniel Andrews reveals he does not have solar panels at home – as he announces neighbourhood battery commitment

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 11, 2022 6:45 am

Re getting people to fight for Australia in a war. I can’t see how it can be done for more than a few days, even if we had a million man army.

Don’t be so glum, chum.
I am assured we have millions of purebloods out there willing to rise up and stand (or fall if necessary) when the time comes.
When we unleash Operation DoubleClutch, those Chunks won’t know what hit them.

Anchor What
Anchor What
November 11, 2022 6:47 am

Yes, Calli, and the same at the mostly rubbish News dot com dot au.
It helps to take attention away from the voter fraud that is having a repeat performance.

rosie
rosie
November 11, 2022 6:50 am

Huge percentage of absentee votes.
The US could alleviate long queues on election day by providing more polling places but it doesn’t seem to be a solution anyone likes.

Michigan’s 2022 midterm election set record in voter turnout

sfw
sfw
November 11, 2022 6:50 am

Trump was the right man in 2016, he was cheated in 2020 but nothing can be done about it.

Trump needs to gracefully retire and take on the elder statesman role. He’s just too old, being obsessed with what was done to him in 2020 isn’t helping.

DeSantis and others are the future and he should be supporting them, his self love and rage won’t let him. He needs to be sidelined asap unless they can convince him it’s over for him.

rosie
rosie
November 11, 2022 6:50 am
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 11, 2022 6:55 am

Yep.
Whatever the rights and wrongs of the past, Trump isn’t the future.

rosie
rosie
November 11, 2022 6:57 am

Notice in the philly article because of malfunctions polling place stayed open an extra two hours
Would not happen here.
Whatever you might think of compulsory voting the Australian paper based election model completely trumps the US schemozzle.

Midterm elections early voting updates: Turnout surpasses prior years

calli
calli
November 11, 2022 6:58 am

It’s too easy to blame Trump. That’s what the media and tame pundits want you to do. So I’m not going down that path at all, but instead cast my eyes over other factors in play.

CL has an interesting thread about the voting preferences. Worth a look.

calli
calli
November 11, 2022 6:59 am

Whatever you might think of compulsory voting the Australian paper based election model completely trumps the US schemozzle.

Yes rosie. Voting “machines”.

What could go wrong?

Crossie
Crossie
November 11, 2022 7:01 am

Robert Barnes
@barnes_law
12h
Democratic machine in key states sent multiple texts daily to get out the vote complimented by targeted Big Tech social messages, phone calls & in-person home visits, while GOP did zilch in this regard. I know because I got myself on both parties target lists in their voter files

This is how D countered the R+4 generic ballot. Hand it to D, they know how to work the machine.

Republicans know how to work it too but Mitch McConnell did not want his party to win or he would have lost his leadership. He is far worse than Biden. Republicans will get their act together once his faction is gone.

rosie
rosie
November 11, 2022 7:01 am

Trump perhaps could devote his energies to cleaning up the voting system in the US.
If the Dems are winning because they have learned how to galvanise indifferent voters, good luck to them.
State legislators should still be encouraged to limit absentee voters to those who can provide a good reason, facilitate inperson voting within a tight time frame and voter id etc.

calli
calli
November 11, 2022 7:05 am

once his faction is gone.

Who is in his “faction”, Crossie? Were they the people DeSantis was sounding out, and that’s why Trump had a hissy?

Diogenes
Diogenes
November 11, 2022 7:07 am

Yes rosie. Voting “machines”.

Part of the need for the machines is that the US it is convenient to hold Federal, State, Council, P&C, head copper, local magistrate etc elections at the same time. Chuck in a few state and local referenda and it becomes a convoluted mess.

Crossie
Crossie
November 11, 2022 7:08 am

calli says:
November 11, 2022 at 6:37 am
I see many of the cartoonists have taken the safe option – blame Trump.

They can’t draw the real villain, McConnell, as most people don’t know who he is. It’s sad to see the cartoonists’ cheap shots.

calli
calli
November 11, 2022 7:10 am

it becomes a convoluted mess.

Governments, like magicians, need convoluted messes to pull swifties.

In which case, the way the US votes will not change any time soon.

Mater
November 11, 2022 7:11 am

Ahhhhh, I miss the old days of Numbers Bob telling us that non-compulsory voting and/or requiring voter ID, was actually voter suppression.

A whimsical glimpse into why our education system is fucked.

Crossie
Crossie
November 11, 2022 7:11 am

rosie says:
November 11, 2022 at 7:01 am
Trump perhaps could devote his energies to cleaning up the voting system in the US.

How is he supposed to do that when the voting systems are state based and under the governors’ and state legislatures’ control?

rosie
rosie
November 11, 2022 7:13 am

It’s not the machines per se.
It’s insufficient spending on sufficient polling places, sloppy control around management of absentee votes and voter registration and the poor maintenance of electoral roles.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 11, 2022 7:17 am

Another one, this time in Israel.

Lithium battery explodes, injuring 20 (10 Nov)

The initial report claimed that the fire was in the building itself, but upon firefighters’ arrival at the scene, it became clear that the blaze was in the courtyard, and not in an apartment.

Magen David Adom (MDA) paramedics provided medical care to 20 victims. Eighteen of the victims had suffered mild injuries, while the other two were moderately injured, all of them from smoke inhalation. … A fire investigator who arrived at the scene believes that the blaze was sparked by an electric bicycle’s lithium battery

So it was in the courtyard, not in the building itself and still went up so powerfully that 20 people were injured. Oh ok then.

Crossie
Crossie
November 11, 2022 7:19 am

calli says:
November 11, 2022 at 7:05 am
once his faction is gone.
Who is in his “faction”, Crossie? Were they the people DeSantis was sounding out, and that’s why Trump had a hissy?

Yes. By being in a position to allocate election funding to candidates McConnell has clearly shown his hand by withholding the funding from Arizona and other places currently in trouble. He doesn’t want firebrands, he wants pliable politicians.

Mater
November 11, 2022 7:19 am

As for compulsory voting:

Does Compulsory Voting Increase Support for Leftist Policy?

We empirically explore the effects of a sanctioned compulsory voting law on direct-democratic decision making in Switzerland. We find that compulsory voting significantly increases electoral support for leftist policy positions in referendums by up to 20 percentage points. We discuss the implications of these results for our understanding of the policy consequences of electoral institutions.

What you are seeing the Democrats do in the US is achieving the same ends, but by a different means. Dragging every low info voter into the system, by hook or by crook.

rosie
rosie
November 11, 2022 7:19 am

The same way he endorses candidates, on a state by state basis.

calli
calli
November 11, 2022 7:28 am

I miss the old days of Numbers Bob

Don’t pine, Mayer. We do have m0nty telling us we’re “seething and coping” as we examine the whys and wherefores of the election.

rosie
rosie
November 11, 2022 7:29 am

Florida is now doing annual voter registration maintenance!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 11, 2022 7:29 am
Eyrie
Eyrie
November 11, 2022 7:30 am

De Santis is just another professional pollie. He’d be a RINO President. Got to hand it to the Demorats, they are very good at politics. They made the Republicans kill the only Presidential candidate that the Dems are worried about.

Cassie of Sydney
November 11, 2022 7:32 am

“sfwsays:
November 11, 2022 at 6:50 am”

All correct, which is why I wrote my post late yesterday about how Donald Trump reminds me of the John Wayne character from The Searchers, Ethan Edwards. It’s time for Trump to ride off into the sunset, his job is done. Like Edwards, Trump is both hero and anti-hero. His brashness, his rudeness and his vulgarity can and have been useful traits but these same traits can also turn people off and can splinter a party. I would also add that much of the Trump wagon now has cultish aspects about it (we even have a commentator here who subscribes to this) and Trump seems to be relishing his new found status as cult leader. This will not win a federal election. And I’m not joining any pile on of Trump. I’ve made it clear hear before that I would prefer Trump retire gracefully and for someone else to run. America is divided, the results of Tuesday will just add further fuel to this divisive fire and by 2024 the country will be in need of healing. As Rod Dreher writes, Trump alienates many, critically those independent voters. Trump is now the boogeyman and the Demonrats will use it to full advantage to scare, intimidate and bring out voters who normally don’t give a shit.

Is DeSantis the man? Well, he is impressive and more importantly his record in Florida is impressive, particularly when it comes to fighting woke, he doesn’t just talk about fighting woke, he fights it. Whilst there was no red wave across the country on Tuesday, there was a red tsunami in Florida. DeSantis won traditional Democrat and progressive districts, he won the Latino vote. And whilst the left, the Demonrats and the MSM will do their best to smear DeSantis, it won’t wash. DeSantis is the future.

Cassie of Sydney
November 11, 2022 7:33 am

“I miss the old days of Numbers Bob”

I don’t.

calli
calli
November 11, 2022 7:35 am

Mayer…Mater.

Fat Finger Syndrome!

rosie
rosie
November 11, 2022 7:36 am

De Santis can stand on his record in Florida.
How could anyone rationally describe that as Rino?

Mater
November 11, 2022 7:37 am

I don’t.

Oh c’mon, Cassie. You’re being too harsh.

He was an invaluable study into the tortured workings of the leftist mind, and their almost insatiable ability to lie about everything they ventured to opine on…which is nearly everything!

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 11, 2022 7:39 am

JC

Nothing at all troubling about the US electoral system. Cheating? How could anyone ever suggst such a thing.

Joel Fischer ??
@realJoelFischer

·
1m
Over 500,000 of Kathy Hochuls votes were mail in ballots pre-filled, all you had to do is sign.

Do you understand what they do now?

Relax, mony-fa can assure that this is all above board. There is no large-scale electoral rorting by the DemonRats, only 5 million or more in one state counts as “large scale”.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 11, 2022 7:39 am

The media are ramping up another covid scare with the Incontinentia strain.
Tens of thousands of new cases by Christmas the ever reliable epidemiologists tell us.
Put those masks back on sheeple.

Dot
Dot
November 11, 2022 7:39 am

Even if all our baristas and social science students enlisted and made great soldiers we still couldn’t defend ourselves for more than a few hours.

Ten B1-Bs routinely use Tindal as a stopover now.

That’s the plan.

Vassalship.

It looks cheap on paper but it means you are tied to interventions like Iraq and there is a question if some terrorist attacked would have happened at all but for that adventure.

Dot
Dot
November 11, 2022 7:40 am

Sign up to fight for a country that hates me?

Hahahaha.

calli
calli
November 11, 2022 7:41 am

His non-compliance during Covid panic is a good pointer to independence from the Borg. I don’t know enough to comment further. Courting known RINOs is probably just another part of the Realpolitik game. They all do it, even Trump at the beginning.

Mater
November 11, 2022 7:41 am

Mayer…Mater.
Fat Finger Syndrome!

Call Me Meyer

Dot
Dot
November 11, 2022 7:45 am

de Santis ain’t a RINO.

However

McConnell and McCarthy fought the MAGA repubs harder than the Democrats did.

Custard may be off the pace now, but he’s right, 219:16 is the Trump endorsed candidate win:loss ratio.

Trump/de Santis.

Trump has to win. The Democrats have to lose to him. They have to be demoralised. They have to have their comeuppance. They need to learn the power of disincentives. Surrender enables their cheating and yokel aristocracy.

Dot
Dot
November 11, 2022 7:47 am

My mate last night said Pence should run with de Santis!

(Not possible if de Santis is no 1), but sacre bleu! Merde! Merde!

m0nty
m0nty
November 11, 2022 7:48 am

Trump got lucky in 2016 then got a major whooping in every election since. That is his ultimate electoral legacy.

Dot
Dot
November 11, 2022 7:49 am

Trump needs to gracefully retire and take on the elder statesman role. He’s just too old, being obsessed with what was done to him in 2020 isn’t helping.

???

…and Hillary, Bidet and three dead people can be Democrat candidates?

Don’t let them Alinsky you!

Cassie of Sydney
November 11, 2022 7:49 am

“He was an invaluable study into the tortured workings of the leftist mind, and their almost insatiable ability to lie about everything they ventured to opine on…which is nearly everything!”

True but we still have that fat fascist basement dweller. Vietman pops up on Quadrant and Michael Smith News from time to time to vomit up a comment. Only the other day he appeared on Michael Smith News running cover for the Andrews’ car accident nearly ten years ago (when a boy was nearly killed). He was basically saying how mean and ridiculous it was to dredge up stuff from so far back in the past…or words to that effect! I bet he didn’t think that about the Rinehart/netball fiasco when comments Gina’s father said in 1982 or 1983 were dredged up. You gotta laugh at the left and their mouthpieces like Vietman and the fat fascist fuckwit, they’re unapologetic hypocrites, and this is why their incessant lies, their incessant bullshit and their incessant hypocrisy must always be called out and tackled…….head on.

Dot
Dot
November 11, 2022 7:50 am

We need ant back, stat, Cruz might get nominated! Let the fun and games begin!

Cassie of Sydney
November 11, 2022 7:50 am

Oh look, speaking of the fat fascist fuckwit. Like something out of a Stephen King novel, he appears.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 11, 2022 7:52 am

The media are ramping up another covid scare with the Incontinentia strain.

Monty Python rang and want their jokes back.

Mater
November 11, 2022 7:53 am

Hey Monty,
Cassie sees you as a replacement for Bolshie Bob. Do you reckon you could squeeze your fat arse into a Miata?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 11, 2022 7:53 am

Tens of thousands of new cases by Christmas the ever reliable epidemiologists tell us.

This will become the new ‘fears of Christmas beer strike’, wheeled out every 12 months by Trusted Experts.

Dot
Dot
November 11, 2022 7:54 am

Who is up for a bet?

Recent squibs:

Donald Trump will be President by February 2023.

By Feb 2025, Australia will have a 5% population decline.

Signed,

Elitist wanker crushing working class dreams they can ill afford.

Dot
Dot
November 11, 2022 7:56 am

Trump got lucky in 2016

Vince Lombardi was lucky.
Glenn Lazarus was lucky.
Ron Barassi was lucky.
Jackie Stewart was lucky.
Michael Jordan was lucky.
Jeff Bezos was lucky.

Winning. Something they all had in common.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 11, 2022 7:58 am

Cassie sees you as a replacement for Bolshie Bob.

Yeah nah yeah nah nah, hang on.

mUnter’s courage threshold makes Liability Bob look like a methed-up kamikaze pilot.

will
will
November 11, 2022 8:02 am

His brashness, his rudeness and his vulgarity

looks like Cassie believes the lies about Trump. He is none of these things, and would not have been able to build a property empire without connecting with people and working with them.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 11, 2022 8:12 am

I said to my wife that the news report TaliDan hasn’t got solar panels on his house and yet he’s promising solar batteries for suburbs.
Her reply “He’s got wind power.”

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 11, 2022 8:22 am

I can’t think of any scenario which might have come from the mid-terms which would make the Cat collective say “Trump 2024, here we go!”
If the GOP had won the senate, it would have been “well, Trump wasn’t on the ticket, plus there are some Dr Oz types he endorsed who failed, so Trump needs to stand down.”
If the GOP had not gained the house, it would have been “Trump didn’t do enough for the crucial battlefront, he needs to stand down.”
If DeSantis had stumbled on any metric, it would have been “Trump hobbled him with a catty nickname and lukewarm praise, Trump needs to stand down.”
If the Republicans had swept the house, Senate, states, mayorals, school boards and gubernatorials-ie the Red Wave- it would have been “See what the GOP can do without Trump? It’s time for the next generation he’s too old there’s a war on he’s dangerous he has said nothing about trans preschool teachers he made the clot shots he’s too old, Trump needs to stand down.”
My position is, the Republicans need to look at their turnout v the Demons machine, and need to look at the hit job on Lake v the armchair ride for Fetterman, and look at what has happened with DeSantis v milquetoast weathervanes like O’Rourke, and have no doubt exactly what they need to do.
Trump is crucial to that.
Trump, and the Trumpism which is embodied by DeSantis and Lake, needs to win, and needs to be seen to win.
The snags are still all over the Swamp, and the FBI, CIA, DOJ, DHS, IRS, DPP and any amount of legislatures and courts, are arrayed against the men who would clean the awful stables.

Cassie of Sydney
November 11, 2022 8:25 am

“looks like Cassie believes the lies about Trump. He is none of these things, and would not have been able to build a property empire without connecting with people and working with them.”

Donald Trump IS all of those things and other things, I would imagine he is also quite sophisticated on some level but he also revels in his brashness, his rudeness and his vulgarity. Trump is the epitome of New York City, sophisticated, brash, vulgar, rude, plain speaking, exciting. He was born and bred in NYC…and you need all of those NYC attributes to become a billionaire, especially in property. Trump can move with the highest and the lowest, that’s always been his secret. However I just think that come 2024 American will need something else.

Dot
Dot
November 11, 2022 8:26 am

Close down all Federal law enforcement and intelligence save for the US Marshals, National Park Police & Defence Intelligence Agency.

That is at a minimum is what required.

Dot
Dot
November 11, 2022 8:27 am

Err, what is

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 11, 2022 8:27 am

His brashness, his rudeness and his vulgarity

And:

the lies about Trump

I didn’t care if he was all of those things, which are subjective in any event. I’m using the past tense because DJT45 can never, ever be King again, and for all the reasons described earlier by others.

You do not build an empire by being polite. You do not change a culture by turning the other cheek, saying ‘this discussion is beneath me’ and having a nice jacket. This is the Cory Bernardi Method.

Alexander the Great did not carve his way to India on a ‘broad church’ philosophy. Genghis Khan did not kick off a dynasty that smacked arse from China to Iran to Russia and Eastern Europe on the bedrock of good manners.

William the Conqueror did not build himself a kingdom spanning England and the Continent by appearing in TikToks, nor by having the feed reserves for his cavalry positioned in Mexico. Queen Victoria did not hold an empire built over centuries on the strength of her pumpkin muffins and press conference approval ratings.

Acknowledgment should be made that Trump got as far as he did amid the seething mass of $4000 suit-clad professional chameleons.

It’s done. It’s finished. The Trump chapter is over, and wishing upon a star will not bring it back. However, and as the man said at the end of The Empire Strikes Back:

No. There is another.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 11, 2022 8:29 am

Seems to me that the Dems offered the GOP a target rich environment that meant they lacked focus.
The Dems went with two issues, abortion and Trump.
People like it simple.
Just because you can list the multiple sins of the Dems doesn’t mean it bites.

Dot
Dot
November 11, 2022 8:31 am

Top quality chum.

We work hard here at the Chum Bucket to purvey these goods for our family of customers.

https://yaridiazma.medium.com/should-men-30-be-dating-18-year-olds-just-because-theyre-legal-6766e5ba23ed

Funnily enough she has written an article on why women are tearing down other women!

I’ll give you a hint sweet pea: jealousy and cope!

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 11, 2022 8:32 am

However I just think that come 2024 American will need something else.
Keep thinking like that and you’ll have president Gavin Newsome in 2024.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 11, 2022 8:32 am

Dot at 7:54

Signed,

Elitist wanker crushing working class dreams they can ill afford.

Oh, stop it.

Signed

Reverend Tim Costello

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
November 11, 2022 8:33 am

Hey Monty,
Cassie sees you as a replacement for Bolshie Bob. Do you reckon you could squeeze your fat arse into a Miata?

Monty tells us he’s a true conservative. 🙂

There is no way he would turn Bolshie.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 11, 2022 8:39 am

You do not build an empire by being polite. You do not change a culture by turning the other cheek, saying ‘this discussion is beneath me’ and having a nice jacket. This is the Cory Bernardi Method.

And neither do you get anywhere by going the full Q-stick and winding the abuse up to eleventy trying to be a pale imitation of Trump.
Mornin’ Ricardo!

Dot
Dot
November 11, 2022 8:41 am

Traitor.

rosie
rosie
November 11, 2022 8:43 am

I think the dem win was more getting esay votes from people who don’t usually bother, not issues so much.
And maybe Republicans didn’t turn out so much because midterms don’t make a whole lot of difference.
Let gas and food etc prices keep sky rocking and see if that influences more hearts and minds.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 11, 2022 8:43 am

Eyrie – They’re going to have President Newsome anyway. It’s obvious. No Republican can win, the Dems dare not allow it. And no one is fixing the fraudulent election machinery, so it’ll just keep on happening.

For example this:

Republicans Have Won 6 Million More Votes than Democrats in House Races, But Gained Relatively Few Seats (10 Nov)

Republicans have won nearly six million more votes nationwide in races for the House of Representatives, but have flipped relatively few seats, suggesting talk of a “red wave” may have anticipated the overall mood of the country but not the final result of the election. According to the Cook Political Report, as of Thursday morning, November 10, Republicans have won 50,113,534 votes, or 52.3% of the vote, compared to 44,251,768, or 46.2% of the vote. Republicans lead by 6.1%, which is better than their average in “generic congressional ballot” polls, in which the party led by 2.5% in the final RealClearPolitics average before the election.

52.3% vs 46.2% is a landslide. Yet I don’t even know if the Republicans are going to win the House let alone the Senate. It’s clear as crystal what has just occurred and it’s going to happen again in 2024. Literally nothing will stop it. If I was a Republican I wouldn’t bother standing for President, it’s pointless.

Cassie of Sydney
November 11, 2022 8:43 am

“Keep thinking like that and you’ll have president Gavin Newsome in 2024.”

Nah, nope, nyet.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 11, 2022 8:43 am

US CPI data comes in cooler than expected.

I note they said the ‘data’ is cooler than expected, not that INFLATION is cooler than expected.

You can double any official inflation figure just for starters.

Rabz
November 11, 2022 8:47 am

Why is that fat stupid utterly corrupt and incompetent cellulite laden slag Pluckachook trying to beat up yet another bat flu scare in Queensland, in summer, FFS?

It’s over, you stupid bitch – just f*ck off and die.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 11, 2022 8:50 am

We work hard here at the Chum Bucket to purvey these goods for our family of customers.

Chomp. Four consecutive sentences from the piece:

When I was 18 and starting to navigate college aged boys I learned a few lessons the hard way.

PHRASING.

Guys will fuck you once and never talk to you again.

As will the girls.

There’s no protection for your heart.

There’s not supposed to be.

Guys will say whatever it takes to get into your pants.

Girls between 18 and up to 40 will tart themselves up and preen for hours before being seen in public social events, privately and publicly eviscerate their competition for status (i.e., a lifestyle and/or wallet-based income), adopt jealousy as a life support mechanism, pretend to be pregnant in ruses to lock in the aforementioned income*, complain about lack of attention yet fiercely demand independence and finally wander off with over half your stuff – which they will need in order to ‘find themselves’.

*A little-mentioned-in-polite-circles but very real trap for young players. Men, warn your heirs and successors.

m0nty
m0nty
November 11, 2022 8:51 am

Zoë Schiffer @ZoeSchiffer
Elon Musk is doing an all hands with Twitter employees. They got a one hour notice and he showed up 15 minutes late.

Elon Musk just told Twitter staff: “If you can physically make it to an office and you don’t show up, resignation accepted.”

Wow. Elon Musk just told Twitter employees he’s not sure how much run rate the company has and “bankruptcy isn’t out of the question.”

Things going exceedingly well then!

JC
JC
November 11, 2022 8:52 am

His brashness, his rudeness and his vulgarity

He’s great that way. Totally loveable.

He’s a New Yorker through and through. Most folks, most Americans don’t get it.

Look, if he runs and wins it would be great, but he better have a strong VP running alongside. 🙂

I just don’t think anyone should be running at that age.

Ron Elk
Ron Elk
November 11, 2022 8:52 am

Whether it is Trump or Desantis or somebody else, whoever it is will have to survive industrial sized molten vats of radioactive slime day after day, hour after hour, for years before and after they get power, if that sort of power is even possible at this point. They will face a hostile deep state that gets scattier by the second, a hostile media, a hostile cheating anything-goes ends-justify-the-means Democrat party, a hostile republican party, a bewildered shell-shocked electorate, and everything else, including super volcanoes, probably. Whoever triumphs, or survives, will have to be a bare knuckle brawler of biblical proportions. It is going to get a good deal uglier than it has already been, and it’s been ugly. So whether it is Trump on one last ride, or Desantis rising, we’re in Batman villain territory now. Whoever it is will pretty much just have to run the gauntlet, I think.
On the other side I would like to see Fetterman run in 2024. He would be a worthy successor to Biden, and height is always important for Presidents. He’s very tall, apparently.

Johnny Rotten
November 11, 2022 8:56 am

A father watched his young daughter playing in the garden. He smiled as he reflected on how sweet and pure his little girl was. Tears formed in his eyes as he thought about her seeing the wonders of nature through such innocent eyes. Suddenly she just stopped and stared at the ground. He went over to her to see what work of God had captured her attention. He noticed she was looking at two spiders mating. “Daddy, what are those two spiders doing?” she asked. “They’re mating” her father replied. “What do you call the spider on top?” she asked. “A Daddy Longlegs” her father answered. “So, the other one is a Mummy Longlegs?” the little girl asked. As his heart soared with the joy of such a cute and innocent question he replied “No dear. Both of them are Daddy Longlegs”. The little girl, looking a little puzzled, thought for a moment, then lifted her foot and stomped them flat. “Well” she said “we’re not having any of that gay shit in our garden”.

m0nty
m0nty
November 11, 2022 8:57 am

Vince Lombardi was lucky.
Glenn Lazarus was lucky.
Ron Barassi was lucky.
Jackie Stewart was lucky.
Michael Jordan was lucky.
Jeff Bezos was lucky.

Winning. Something they all had in common.

Trump won once, then piled up a long string of ever-increasing losses. Basically he’s the St Kilda of US politics.

rosie
rosie
November 11, 2022 8:57 am

“Elon Musk is doing an all hands with Twitter employees. They got a one hour notice and he showed up 15 minutes late.”
This is righteous indignation about expecting employees to be available during work hours to be available at short notice for a meeting with el jefe?
What happened? Did they have to cancel an important meeting?
And the horror of having to go into the office said no-one ever pre 2020.

Johnny Rotten
November 11, 2022 8:58 am

I have learned that not diamonds but divorce lawyers are a girl’s best friend.

– Zsa Zsa Gabor

rosie
rosie
November 11, 2022 8:58 am

I suppose if twitter went bankrupt twitter employees would definitely be out of a job.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 11, 2022 9:03 am

From Monty:

Wow. Elon Musk just told Twitter employees he’s not sure how much run rate the company has and “bankruptcy isn’t out of the question.”

Things going exceedingly well then!

It all depends on ‘what victory looks like’ 😉

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
November 11, 2022 9:04 am

So the Jab jab booster…………………..will finish testing in 2026, hope it passes!

https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/long-term-organ-damage-after-covid-19-vaccines-emerging-in-medical-literature-5ac5a436

For a typical live-attenuated, killed, or antigen-based vaccine, the minimum period for safety observation in clinical development is 2 years. For genetic products which includes mRNA and adenoviral DNA, the minimum time is 5 years.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 11, 2022 9:04 am

How Teal ‘independent’ Kylea Tink’s campaign tapped into $1.83m to get her elected

YONI BASHAN
MARGIN CALL EDITOR

Who else but teal independent Kylea Tink would campaign so vigorously against corporate largesse and the “undue influence of money” in politics, only to then grease her own bid for a seat in parliament with funds provided by millionaire donors?

And that’s to say nothing of her warped calculation earlier this year that she would receive roughly $750,000 in donation support.

The final sums, released this week, revised that number significantly to $1.83m, a figure that puts paid to her suggestion that independents would be disadvantaged without “a big bank, like a big party machine” supporting them.

Certainly not the case for Dai Le, an independent MP with no affiliation to the Teals, who amassed just $81,000 in donations and went on to thrash Labor’s Kristina Keneally in the seat of Fowler. Perhaps we should chalk that one up to an act of God.

To claim there was no big bank or party machine supporting Tink is preposterous.

The machinery is simply known by another name, Climate 200, and we now know that its deep-pocketed backers deployed more than $800,000 to fortify her campaign armoury; that’s a mere slice of the $6m collected from its donors to buy greater levels of integrity in federal politics. Go ­figure.

They might have delivered Tink into parliament but for their money her services only seem to be provided on a part-time basis.

For months her electorate office has been open Mondays through Thursdays, between 9am and 3pm. Friday walk-ins are verboten, unless one has a booking, although a spokeswoman said that arrangement had changed “a few weeks ago”. The office is now open on Fridays, too – but only for six hours.

“Kylea is keen to hear from you,” shouts the banner on her website, in capital letters. “Our office values meaningful connection with the North Sydney electorate which means we are out and about in the vibrant North Sydney community.”

Maintaining such hours is unusual for any working MP of any stripe in any parliament. It looks like a decided lack of commitment to us. But why expect more from an MP who just months ago purchased a trophy to present to a local high school student, named it after herself, and then didn’t bother to turn up for the presentation night, having sent her apologies because of a scheduling clash.

A reminder, too, that this is the same MP who campaigned so assiduously for action on climate change while holding shares in Beach Energy, an oil and gas explorer, Viva Energy, a retailer of Shell-branded fuels, and shares in toll road operator Transurban.

Tink jettisoned the shares once a fuss was made about them in the press, including this column. But not before mounting an intellectually forlorn argument that she only bought them to exert pressure as a shareholder activist.

This is an argument truly destitute of any good sense; she would have held more sway whispering her demands into the bin under her office desk – when the office is open, of course.

But nowhere are Tink’s asymmetries most puzzling than on her passion project of political donations. Just last month she again called for corporate donors to be capped at $25,000 and demanded even further caps on campaign spending altogether.

That’s while having no compunction accepting a whopping sum of money from the Climate 200 mothership, which collected $2.5m in contributions from Atlassian co-founders Scott Farquhar and Mike Cannon-Brookes, in addition to a slew of other significant corporate identities.

Not that there’s any reason to suspect that Cannon-Brookes would use his personal wealth or his private investment vehicle to advance a corporate ambition … like the wholesale takeover of an energy company.

But it’s the other little white lies, the harmless miscalculations, that continue to attract our attention and concern.

At the outset of her campaign, Tink told reporters that 30 per cent of her funding would be sourced from Climate200. We now know the figure was much higher, just shy of 45 per cent, but only when in-kind donations were included – and they should be included, according to Electoral Commission rules.

For some reason Tink’s website estimates the figure at the lower benchmark of 40 per cent, without calculating those in-kind contributions. A bit sneaky, we think, but what’s a few lousy percentage points when you’re campaigning on integrity?

Oz

rosie
rosie
November 11, 2022 9:05 am

And so much for the ‘dozens’ of rehires as more staff get axed.
Musk hasn’t changed any moderation policy but major advertisers are absent because of wokery so yes bankruptcy in the face of massive revenue shortfalls is a real possibility.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 11, 2022 9:05 am

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Dot
Dot
November 11, 2022 9:05 am

Things going exceedingly well then!

Just as planned.

calli
calli
November 11, 2022 9:05 am

There’s no protection for your heart.

Yes there is. You.

“Above all else, guard your heart, for it is the wellspring of life” – Proverbs 4:23

My mum used to warn me not to wear my heart on my sleeve. She was right.

Dot
Dot
November 11, 2022 9:07 am

Chomp. Four consecutive sentences from the piece:

Looks like I finally got the Krabby Pattie recipe!

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 11, 2022 9:08 am

PM won’t rule out tax on gas, coal to help ease energy prices – Anthony Albanese says a new tax on gas and coal, reported exclusively in The Australian, was not ‘our preference’ but ‘we’re working through the issues constructively’.

Excellent, taxing our way to prosperity again?

P
P
November 11, 2022 9:08 am

Remembrance Day 2022

We will remember them. Lest we forget.

Roger
Roger
November 11, 2022 9:08 am

Over 500,000 of Kathy Hochuls votes were mail in ballots pre-filled, all you had to do is sign.

That’s how Fetterman was elected.

He had his victory margin before the debate was held.

calli
calli
November 11, 2022 9:09 am

I’m glad Dot reads the Lady Pages so I don’t have to.

calli
calli
November 11, 2022 9:14 am

On Trump, from another brash and vulgar and egotistical President:

Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure… than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.

The bug class will never understand this.

m0nty
m0nty
November 11, 2022 9:15 am

Just as planned.

Haha!

I mean, the Bain Capital method of taking over a mildly profitable company with private equity, loading it up with debt and destroying it makes some sort of sense, or so I am told. It’s a common enough move that there must be some logic behind it. Not sure lighting US$44 billion on fire is a great financial strategy at the end of the day though. But hey, it worked for The Joker!

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 11, 2022 9:16 am

Remembrance Day 2022. We will remember them. Lest we forget.

I will remember General ‘Scary eyes Campbell’ throwing whole units under the bus regarding unproven allegations from Afghanistan, whilst simultaneously keeping his own DSC awarded for command of the Task Force at that very same time.

He should have thrown is own rank on the table and announced ‘accountability starts at the top’.

Absolutely.Bloody.Disgraceful

calli
calli
November 11, 2022 9:16 am

And that man’s nephew went on to become Chief Bug, adored by generations of parasites. Families are strange things.

m0nty
m0nty
November 11, 2022 9:18 am

Mark Elliott @markmobility
News: Twitter’s chief privacy officer, chief compliance officer, and chief information security officer have all quit.

Sure, who needs any of that crap.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 11, 2022 9:19 am

Wot Bruce of Newcastle said.

I will add that cleaning up the vote corruption is a state issue and a state job. The PAs and AZs are captured, it would take open revolt to change things.

Locally, if two step Dan increases his vote then I will become a full time conspiracy theorist.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 11, 2022 9:19 am

Zoom Meetings Are Coming to a Tesla Near You

Many of us are living in a remote work world now, which means we now sit through endless video meetings instead of piling into boardrooms. Tesla hopes to turn your car into another meeting space, announcing that Zoom would soon come to its EVs’ infotainment systems.

The teaser video from Drive Tesla Canada shows a person using the feature while charging their Tesla, allowing them to make use of otherwise dead time. Sure, being connected to work at all times is unhealthy and annoying, but for some people, it’s impossible to avoid.

Dot
Dot
November 11, 2022 9:20 am

monty it’s the Tzeench method.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Just_As_Planned

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 11, 2022 9:21 am

AP News on the Pelosi hammer bloke. I know, I know, but this is funny:

A pair of web blogs posted in recent months online under the name David DePape contained rants about technology, aliens, communists, religious minorities and global elites.

An Aug. 24 entry titled “Q,” displayed a scatological collection of memes that included photos of the deceased sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and made reference to QAnon, the… pro-Trump conspiracy theory that espouses the belief that the country is run by a deep state cabal of child sex traffickers, satanic pedophiles and baby-eating cannibals.

This is a marker.
What is the connection?
Who will stop the endless?
Think.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 11, 2022 9:24 am

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2022/11/at-a-cafe-in-melbourne.html

From the Comments

– Yeah. Nah. Stuff your apology where the sun don’t shine.
You deserve nothing but contempt. Spineless, ignorant a-oles.

– At least they had the good grace to apologise, unlike the bastard Dan

– I agree. People do a lot of things out of ignorance, and in this case it was state-sponsored / inflicted ignorance. I’m sure the business has suffered enough – time to let go. Dan Andrews, on the other hand, needs a serious comeuppance! As do his Health advisors (Sutton, et al) and the TGA.

– Most businesses were forced to exclude people blame dictator Dan.

Some chose to do it.

– Agreed, they needed to stand up last year, everyone’s a hero when the war is over.

– And look what happened to the ones that did

‘Owner of Capalaba cafe arrested and charged with refusing to follow health orders | 7NEWS’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rnL5md7owE

Good one hero.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 11, 2022 9:27 am

Some things take time.

Roger
Roger
November 11, 2022 9:29 am

And that man’s nephew went on to become Chief Bug, adored by generations of parasites.

You mean FDR?

TR & FDR were fifth cousins.

Eleanor was TR’s neice.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 11, 2022 9:29 am

https://www.awm.gov.au/articles/encyclopedia/memorial_scroll

He whom this scroll commemorates was numbered among those who, at the call of King and Country, left all that was dear to them, endured hardness, faced danger, and finally passed out of the sight of men by the path of duty and self-sacrifice, giving up their own lives that others might live in freedom. Let those who come after see to it that his name be not forgotten.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 11, 2022 9:29 am

rosiesays:

November 11, 2022 at 9:05 am

And so much for the ‘dozens’ of rehires as more staff get axed.

A total beat up, probably based on an email from a survivor to some of the culled saying “It won’t work without you. I’ll get you back in”.
But without any authority to actually re-hire.

Musk hasn’t changed any moderation policy

He has changed moderation practices to align with what the policy actually says.

but major advertisers are absent because of wokery so yes bankruptcy in the face of massive revenue shortfalls is a real possibility.

Maybe.
I think he is just throwing a bucket of icy cold water over the survivors to jolt them into action.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 11, 2022 9:30 am

Chomp chomp…

At 18, a lot of single young ladies are looking for the man she wants to spend her life with and this will make some eager to please, especially if an older man can offer her thrills that younger men can’t because of the financial stability young people in her age group haven’t yet achieved.

Dubai porta potties?
Onlyfans?
Girlsdopron?

(porta potty link set on the antivirus, so maybe ignore if your anti-virus isnt up to date)

rosie
rosie
November 11, 2022 9:31 am

As if any of those staff are irreplaceable.
#montytakes

yeah Lea Kissner looks like a huuuuuge loss to twitter

calli
calli
November 11, 2022 9:34 am

I beg your pardon, Cats. I was wrong, Roger is right.

The apple did fall a great distance from the tree. No wonder they were so different.

rosie
rosie
November 11, 2022 9:37 am

Maybe Sancho but if the big advertisers don’t come back, what then?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 11, 2022 9:37 am

but major advertisers are absent because of wokery so yes bankruptcy in the face of massive revenue shortfalls is a real possibility.

Musk is like the Russians. He doesn’t take a dump without a plan.

Roger
Roger
November 11, 2022 9:37 am

The apple did fall a great distance from the tree. No wonder they were so different.

Iirc, FDR was related to c. 12 other Presidents.

The US swapped one ruling class for another.

m0nty
m0nty
November 11, 2022 9:38 am

War Monitor @WarMonitors
Brothers moral at bedrock.

Translation: Russian soldiers are running away from Kherson under heavy fire from Ukraine artillery, they are not having a good time of it.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 11, 2022 9:39 am

Standing in line at the cafe, flicking through the pages of a girlie magazine and there’s a picture of the celebrity trans Elliot Page at some gala.
Still looks like a girl regardless of the suit. Not even male enough to look like a gay guy.
I was rewarded though because a couple of pages on was a pic of the fabulous Salma Hayek.
That’s a woman!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 11, 2022 9:40 am

I counter Dots chum with a fresh load of abattoir sweepings of my own.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2022-11-11/ibs-irritable-bowel-syndrome-tiktok-hot-girl-stigma/101562030

In a society that shames girls who poop, it’s no surprise Nadya felt embarrassed.

There is a tired, patriarchal narrative that girls must be clean and pure — but it’s 2022. All people, including hot girls, poop. And a large chunk of us have IBS too.

Besides being a hot girl with IBS, Nadya is also a Harvard graduate and the founder of PERIOD, a non-profit organisation fighting period poverty and stigma.

The #HotGirlsHaveIBS movement is ushering in a new generation of confident, constipated, cuties. Sisters who slay … while they slop.

If you think you might be joining the legions of hot girls with IBS, chat with your GP about a personalised treatment plan, and find out if it’s possible to access support from a multidisciplinary team.

You’re also welcome to join Nadya and me by sharing your experience with IBS on social media — after all, having your voice heard can provide a sense of empowerment.

m0nty
m0nty
November 11, 2022 9:41 am

Mike Martin @ThreshedThought
It seems like the Russians really have ballsed up their withdrawal

They had to announce it because they were pulling out of territory that they’d previously annexed (and were claiming as Russian territory)

But it seems like they hadn’t actually told all their troops

And, as we know, retreating is the hardest military manoeuvre to carry out.

Much harder if you announce it before hand.

So now we have the situation where Russian troops are jamming the crossing by points and getting shelled by the Ukrainians.

They can’t get out fast enough.

Ukraine has taken back tens of villages.

And is supposedly on the outskirts of the city of Kherson itself (with special forces already inside).

This looks like it a turning into a rout.

I’ll update this as we go forward. Things are moving very fast.

It feels weird tweeting this. I’ve been tweeting about Ukrainians designs on Kherson since May or June and here we are.

Good for them.

OMG.

Dig a little deeper and some of the *Russian* sources are saying that there at c.20k Russians stuck on the wrong side of the river.

Wow.

Dot
Dot
November 11, 2022 9:48 am

The #HotGirlsHaveIBS movement is ushering in a new generation of confident, constipated, cuties. Sisters who slay … while they slop.

I won’t go out this weekend.

I have a Gundam kit to put together.

JC
JC
November 11, 2022 9:48 am

rosie says:
November 11, 2022 at 9:37 am
Maybe Sancho but if the big advertisers don’t come back, what then?

Two years time, Twitter will either be busted or carousing at top speed and totally changed.

He’s thinking of adding streaming services, video and lots of other stuff. The idea it won’t attract advertising because it’s not woke is stupid. Do Murdoch’s stable attract adverts?
Wall Street Journal has all the old gang advertising there. It’s silly to think he can’t make a go of it.

JC
JC
November 11, 2022 9:50 am

Fatboy , the trolling is frenetic this morning. How many donuts does this to you?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 11, 2022 9:52 am

The Sydney Morning Herald

Why do we wear poppies on Remembrance Day?
It’s an awful paradox: the poppy, commemorating lives lost to war, flourished on the Western Front only after it became a battlefield.
By Tony Wright
November 11, 2022

On May 2, 1915, during the Second Battle of Ypres in Belgium, a German shell blew away the life of Lieutenant Alexis Helmer, of the 2nd Battery, 1st Brigade Canadian Field Artillery. Soon after, Helmer’s close friend, military physician John McCrae, sat down and wrote what would become one of the most famous poems of World War I.

“In Flanders fields the poppies blow …” wrote McCrae.

His words are now recited at Remembrance Day ceremonies in cities, towns and villages across what were once called the British Empire countries, including Australia. And as Remembrance Day approaches, members of the Returned Services League sell little red poppies in cities and towns throughout the nation. Perhaps you’ve bought one from a veteran, a soldier or a volunteer; or perhaps you’ve walked by and wondered what they were all about.

That the blood-red poppies symbolise the unthinkable numbers of lives lost and the lakes of blood spilled on the battlefields of World War I and beyond is well known.

But the lesser-known and dreadful truth is that poppies flourished on those battlefields only because of the brutality of war.

What is the harrowing history behind the poppy? And why, at the stroke of 11am on November 11, do we observe a minute’s silence?

Why poppies on November 11?

Seeds of the corn poppy (or Papaver rhoeas) can lie beneath soil for 100 years without germinating, according to Gary Krupnick, director of the plant conservation unit at the Smithsonian Institute’s National Museum of Natural History. The seeds need the earth to be disturbed to allow light to give them life, and they require nitrogen and other nutrients to flourish.

There were, it happens, relatively few poppies evident in northern France and Belgium, that area known as the Western Front, when World War I broke out in 1914.

Yet within a year of the war beginning, soldiers were writing home of a landscape ablaze with poppies.

Nitrogen, used to create the explosives that caused endless misery, coated the land.

The war, in the darkest of paradoxes, had created ideal conditions for a vast garden of red blooms. Bombs and explosive artillery ploughed the ground. Armies dug great mazes of trenches, flinging seed-rich soil into the light. Nitrogen, used to create the explosives that caused endless misery, coated the land. And as the death toll of soldiers and civilians rose into the millions, along with horses and other beasts of burden, the dirt was soaked with the oldest of fertilisers, blood and bone.

The tortured dirt grew two notable crops: crosses above graves spreading to every horizon … and millions of poppies.

And so it was that in May 1915, John McCrae penned his poignant poem, published later that year in Punch magazine. One account has him sitting on the rear step of an ambulance, gazing at his friend Helmer’s new grave. Vivid red poppies waved throughout the burial ground, now known as the Essex Farm Military Cemetery at Boezinge, a village in West Flanders Province near Ypres, Belgium.

The battlefields of the area – particularly around Ypres and Passchendaele, where a million combatants died between 1914 and 1918 – were simply called Flanders Fields by British, Commonwealth and later American soldiers.

“In Flanders fields the poppies blow.
Between the crosses, row on row
That mark our place, and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.”

Are poppies just about the Western Front?

For Australians, the origin of poppies as remembrance is not entirely limited to the Western Front, where 46,000 Australian lives were lost during World War I. The Gallipoli Peninsula in Turkey, too, was torn up by artillery and gunfire and the furious digging of trenches and dugouts in 1915, the land fertilised by blood and bone.

More than 8000 Australians died at Gallipoli. Vastly greater numbers of Turkish soldiers and those of Britain and other batons lie beneath the ground there, too. Poppies appeared and grew in such numbers that a long gulch just south of Anzac Cove was given the name Poppy Valley.

World War I was supposed to be the war to end all wars. In the century that followed, the world, of course, would learn there was no real end to warfare, and now the poppy also commemorates those lost to World War II and all the conflicts that followed.
When did poppies become tradition?

Today, the wearing of a single poppy is generally reserved for Remembrance Day, November 11, commemorating the date of the armistice that ended World War I in 1918. However, wreaths of poppies are also placed at memorials and beneath honour boards on Anzac Day, April 25.

Communities across Australia devote weeks to knitting poppies.

The tradition of selling poppies to aid veterans and their families began in 1921, when widows of French ex-servicemen visited Earl Haig, the British commander-in-chief, then running the British Legion to help former soldiers cope beyond the war. The women presented him with poppies they had made by hand in France, suggesting they be sold to raise money to aid those incapacitated by their war service.

Within months, red poppies, also made in France, arrived in Australia with returning soldiers. Then it was made official. The Returned Sailors and Soldiers Imperial League of Australia (precursor of the Returned Services League), along with other veterans’ groups in the Commonwealth and allied nations, passed resolutions that year “to recognise the poppy of Flanders Fields as the international memorial flower to be worn on the anniversary of Armistice Day”.

Today, some communities across Australia devote weeks to knitting poppies ahead of both Remembrance Day and Anzac Day, when they are handed out at memorials or placed on the graves of veterans. Ahead of Remembrance Day, millions of cloth and paper poppies are sold by the RSL to aid its charity work.

Remembrance Day is marked by a minute’s silence at the 11th hour of the 11th day of the month. The silence is a tradition established, at least in part, through the vision of a Melbourne-born journalist, Edward George Honey.

In London, recuperating from wounds he received on the Western Front, Honey – a former student of Caulfield Grammar School who wrote as a journalist for the Melbourne Argus – found himself confronted by the dancing and the singing that greeted the end of the war.

In 1919, he wrote a letter to the London Evening Standard under the pseudonym Warren Foster, suggesting there should be a solemn five-minute silence each year instead. “Five little minutes only. Five silent minutes of national remembrance. A very sacred intercession. Communion with the Glorious Dead who won us peace, and from the communion new strength, hope and faith in the morrow,” he implored.

Soon after, a South African financier and politician, Sir James Percy Fitzpatrick, wrote to the king suggesting the same thing.

And so, the silence was adopted.

The suggested five minutes’ silence was pared back to two, and eventually, in Australia, to one minute.

Along with the wearing of a single red poppy, the silence at 11am has since been observed in every Commonwealth country on Remembrance Day. It’s a national holiday in France and Belgium. The French wear blue cornflowers (Bleuet de France) rather than poppies, in honour of veterans, victims of war, widows and orphans. The “bleuet” refers to both the cornflowers that grew alongside poppies on the shattered battlegrounds, and an affectionate name for French recruits thrown into the war wearing blue uniforms

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 11, 2022 9:54 am

The #HotGirlsHaveIBS movement is ushering in a new generation of confident, constipated, cuties. Sisters who slay … while they slop.

I won’t go out this weekend.

I have a Gundam kit to put together.

Comeon Dot, take one for the team.
After shes “Found herself” and has a couple of beezel-bubs you can man up and take, dare I say it, Sloppy seconds.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRcCP4Ix5D2L9lT6PuH-Pm-XUIuCn6uj53-Uw&usqp=CAU

Zipster
November 11, 2022 9:54 am

b l a c k p i l l e d ?
Paul Joseph Watson

m0nty
m0nty
November 11, 2022 9:55 am

Hey JC, do you own any Musk-related stocks? You probably should sell, if so.

JC
JC
November 11, 2022 9:59 am

Nope, never have as I’m an old fashioned dude.

You owned Meta at the top, right?

m0nty
m0nty
November 11, 2022 10:01 am

I don’t think I have ever owned stocks. I had some options for APN back when I used to work for them, but didn’t exercise them.

Property is where it’s at, anyway.

rosie
rosie
November 11, 2022 10:04 am

Well I was thinking the advertisers who have withdrawn may have shot themselves in the foot, after all there is apparently some purpose to advertising.
And it wasn’t me who suggested twitter might go bankrupt.
twitter statistics

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 11, 2022 10:07 am

Monty heard the word musk and got excited.

Its stocks, not sticks you globule.

rosie
rosie
November 11, 2022 10:07 am
JC
JC
November 11, 2022 10:10 am

Property is where it’s at, anyway.

Pwoperty has peaked in real terms. It’s over.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 11, 2022 10:12 am

Wait … custard hit an old man with a hammer?

JC
JC
November 11, 2022 10:13 am

In his underwear too, Bear.

Dot
Dot
November 11, 2022 10:13 am

It’s over for the propertycels.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
November 11, 2022 10:14 am

Danxiety; n, an anxious state of mind incurred whenever Victorias Premier opens his mouth and throws debt funded money at people other than you, realising you are one of the few in the electorate who is forced to pay for this money laundering. Similar to Post Traumatic Stress Disorder however it is current and is not a disorder but a natural sane response to surrounding insanity.

m0nty
m0nty
November 11, 2022 10:15 am

Trump going the squirrel on DeSantis over on TruthSocial. Also calling out the Murdoch media for disloyalty. Lovely!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 11, 2022 10:16 am
H B Bear
H B Bear
November 11, 2022 10:19 am

mUnty. Stop it, you’ll go blind.

m0nty
m0nty
November 11, 2022 10:19 am

It’s really not DeSantis’ style to go toe to toe with the likes of Trump. He doesn’t have that sort of game, or if he does then he’s been hiding his light under a bushel. That’s what it’s going to take though, because Trump senses weakness like he did with Jeb! Bush and he’s not going to stop the insults.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 11, 2022 10:20 am

Airbus Albo jets off overseas AGAIN as Australians battle with a cost of living crisis and the Prime Minister comes under fire for breaking his election promises

. Anthony Albanese jetted off overseas on Friday for series of global summits
. He will join world leaders to discuss state of global economy and rising inflation
. His trip comes as Australia faces its own crisis after election promises broken

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
November 11, 2022 10:22 am

I see the swamp is working overtime on Musk. MSM reporting large share price fall however SP has recovered and stable. Over 12months it is down however it is still way up on 2019.
Cherry picking numbers to suit a narrative.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 11, 2022 10:22 am

Thank you Zulu for the SMH post.
i don’t have a subscription and the article you linked to was good reading which I would have missed otherwise.

Zipster
November 11, 2022 10:22 am

Mark Elliott @markmobility
News: Twitter’s chief privacy officer, chief compliance officer, and chief information security officer have all quit.

I hear disney is hiring

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 11, 2022 10:25 am

‘City of death’: Putin’s troops have mined Kherson and will shell it to rubble as soon as Kyiv’s men advance, Zelensky adviser warns amid fears Russian retreat is actually a trap

. Russia wants to turn Kherson into a ‘city of death’ for Ukrainian troops, presidential adviser Podolyak has said
. Putin’s troops have booby-trapped houses and sewers, with artillery ready to fire as Ukraine advances, he said
. Ukraine’s top commander said his troops are slowly advancing, and he cannot yet say if retreat is genuine
. Kyiv fears Russian withdrawal – announced yesterday – may actually be a carefully laid trap to draw in its men

JC
JC
November 11, 2022 10:26 am

Dover

I was thinking that if the Repub states get their act together with the voting, it could end up at the scotus forcing the demon states to clean up theirs. It’s a hunch but I think it’s possible to clean up this abortion. The scotus could act to demand transparency. I have read about this anywhere and I’m not a lawyer so I don’t know.

Vote harvesting could be deemed unconstitutional ?

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 11, 2022 10:27 am

For those of a conservative bent and who also enjoy cruising, here is Mark Steyn regarding his “annual” cruise:

We might have picked an Alaskan or Caribbean or St Lawrence or Mexican cruise, but, alas, all those involve an American port, and in order to enter the United States our non-US cruisers would be required to demonstrate proof of vaccination status. So we decided to spread our wings and book a cruise in the Eastern Med instead. And thus the first ever Steyn Mediterranean cruise will leave Trieste on July 7th 2023 and sail aboard Holland America’s ms Oosterdam down the Dalmatian coast to Montenegro and Santorini, before returning to Trieste on July 14th. And no Covid tests or vaccine passports required.

Zipster
November 11, 2022 10:27 am

McCarthy, McConnell and good old Lindsey Graham all uniparty filth

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 11, 2022 10:28 am

Just a lazy billion a year, plus all the gouging and distortion of the energy sector..

Labor has revamped Australia’s response to climate change and environmental degradation, redirecting nearly $750m in Coalition commitments, including some spending on gas and carbon capture and storage.
….

But at least its having an impact!!!

Carbon emissions from fossil fuels will hit record high in 2022
‘Bleak’ findings come from report at Cop27 that notes ‘no sign’ of urgent cuts needed to stop climate breakdown


Emissions from China, the world’s biggest polluter, will decrease by 1% in 2022, the GCP found, because of the country’s stringent Covid restrictions and a collapse in the construction industry. The EU will also see a similar decrease because the 7% rise in coal emissions has been offset by a 10% fall in CO2 from gas consumption after Russia invaded Ukraine.

In contrast, US emissions will rise by 1.5%, with a surge in flights largely to blame. India will have the largest rise, 6%. This is due to higher coal and oil emissions, and India now emits more than the EU overall – although emissions per capita remain much lower.

And the Immaculata dentata wants us to shovel more borrowed cash onto the pyre of the carpetbaggers.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 11, 2022 10:28 am

Man shouted ‘Allahu akbar’ in attack that took place after he left psychiatric hospital, local media claims

Ordinary people might start to think mental illness is somewhat widespread amongst indescribable people. I wonder when that tag will suddenly vanish from MSM reporting?

cohenite
November 11, 2022 10:30 am
Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 11, 2022 10:33 am

What motivates Andrew Bolt’s loathing of Donald?

Bolt’s show last night was an orgy of vituperative condemnation of Trump and a siren song of “never again” should the Great Man be allowed anywhere near the levers of Republican or American power.

His tirades even appealed to my woke 20 y.o. granddaughter.

JC
JC
November 11, 2022 10:34 am

Cronkite

You’re an American constitutional lawyer of high regard. Could Scotus intervene and stop vote harvesting and force more transparency?

Is that possible?

Roger
Roger
November 11, 2022 10:35 am

Anthony Albanese jetted off overseas on Friday for series of global summits

Would his contributions be missed if he didn’t show up?

Razey
Razey
November 11, 2022 10:38 am

Watch them ramp up the fear in Sheep by bringing back masks and ‘social distancing’. This is to get them to vaxxxxxxx. So obvious.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 11, 2022 10:39 am

Well I was thinking the advertisers who have withdrawn may have shot themselves in the foot

I have a feeling they will surreptitiously creep back since the platform is still the place for stuff to be posted. It’s accessible unlike Facechook and Instamash.

Unfortunately for them they’ve done great damage to themselves by flouncing off, as righties are quiet but extremely attuned to such things.

Kimmel Admits He Lost ‘Half’ His Fans Bashing Trump (3 Nov)

Awww, sads.

Roger
Roger
November 11, 2022 10:40 am

Didn’t SCOTUS uphold Arizona’s ban on vote harvesting?

But how much SCOTUS can do in this area would depend on matters of supremacy, i.e. federal over state law.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 11, 2022 10:45 am

Mater

Oh c’mon, Cassie. You’re being too harsh.

He was an invaluable study into the tortured workings of the leftist mind, and their almost insatiable ability to lie about everything they ventured to opine on…which is nearly everything!

See also: m0nty-fa.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 11, 2022 10:51 am

Thank you Zulu for the SMH post.

My pleasure, OSC.

JC
JC
November 11, 2022 10:53 am

Roger

I’m assuming a case could come up challenging this postal voting en mass bullshit with the argument that it cannot be legitimate lacking transparency. Scotus could intervene if they believed voting wasn’t secure.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 11, 2022 10:55 am

Dotsays:
November 11, 2022 at 8:26 am
Close down all Federal law enforcement and intelligence save for the US Marshals, National Park Police & Defence Intelligence Agency.

What do you have against the Naval Intelligence Command, the equivalent Army and Air Force groups and the Missile Intelligence Agency?

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
November 11, 2022 10:56 am

KD bemoaned:

pretend to be pregnant in ruses to lock in the aforementioned income*

Equally as impolite to mention is the easier tactic of putting holes in condoms or otherwise finding some way to actually get pregnant with a man who doesn’t want it. Definitely has happened.

It’s hole in the legal system that this doesn’t count as some kind of assault on par with “stealthing”.

JC
JC
November 11, 2022 10:56 am

Betting markets suggest demons take the senate and GOP gets the house.

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Roger
Roger
November 11, 2022 11:00 am

Scotus could intervene if they believed voting wasn’t secure.

I think they’d be inclined to but with state rights it’s a thorny path they’d have to tread to get there.

Republican law makers might have to come up with something to assist them before 2024.

I think that’s already under discussion.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 11, 2022 11:01 am

From Alex Berenson’s substack:

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/they-really-are-this-stupid-australia/comments#comment-10383487

They really are this stupid (Australia edition)
ALEX BERENSON
8 HR AGO

Australia – 96 percent adult Covid vaccinated, 72 percent adult boosted – now fears it is heading into its fourth Covid wave this year.

Which can mean only one thing – get another mRNA shot!

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 11, 2022 11:03 am

Could Scotus intervene and stop vote harvesting and force more transparency?

Would this be the same SCOTUS that refused to even ‘hear’ dozens of cases relating to the 2020 election?

rosie
rosie
November 11, 2022 11:03 am

“actually get pregnant with a man who doesn’t want it”
I think there is a much safer way to avoid this problem.
Incidentally no contraception method is 100% effective.

Cassie of Sydney
November 11, 2022 11:24 am

“actually get pregnant with a man who doesn’t want it”

Hmm, what happens if someone gets impregnated by a woman with a penis who doesn’t want it?

Such is the world we live in.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 11, 2022 11:25 am

Re the Twitter advertiser thing Daisy Cousens now has an article up at Sky:

Anti-Musk Twitter activists running out of companies to harass after their woke and selective demands forced an advertiser exodus (11 Nov)

Maybe the advertisers should read it, just so they can understand the whirlwind they’ve reaped for themselves. Better do something guys, before half your customers vanish.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
November 11, 2022 11:28 am

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2022-11-11/climate-change-emissions-record-high-china-india-reductions/101628124

More bullshit from the gayBC.
My morning walk was cold and unpleasant, southerly blowing off the antarctic, felt like it could snow!

Must be nearly time for new Ice Age predictions to start.

JC
JC
November 11, 2022 11:36 am

Dover

It would take a day to waltz through projects and harvest a thousand votes or more. It would take a week in the burbs. RNC doesn’t stand a chance.

Cassie of Sydney
November 11, 2022 11:36 am

“Anti-Musk Twitter activists running out of companies to harass after their woke and selective demands forced an advertiser exodus (11 Nov)”

Most of those advertisers will return.

JC
JC
November 11, 2022 11:37 am

Would this be the same SCOTUS that refused to even ‘hear’ dozens of cases relating to the 2020 election?

Yes, because it’s a different issue. Intervening in an immediate election is not the same as intervening in the election process.

P
P
November 11, 2022 11:42 am

Some of us just like a good fight, and that’s exactly what the GOPe and the propaganda media are delivering for President Trump.
#TheDilleyShow ??? @TheLastRefuge2 (2:19)
https://twitter.com/RichardStiller4/status/1590834582081110017

Dot
Dot
November 11, 2022 11:44 am

What do you have against the Naval Intelligence Command, the equivalent Army and Air Force groups and the Missile Intelligence Agency?

Command? It’s part of the military, keep it. Fold the rest in as well if they’re not in the armed services.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 11, 2022 11:45 am

Domestic political difference here in a suite at a corporate-name hotel in Selma, Alabama. I am all for De Santis, and Hairy thinks the Republican narrative is calling for De Santis without ‘objective’ evidence that he would be as good as Trump, and he still stands by Trump. I say the Florida situation not just in the midterms but before it shows we have a winner there. Hairy says any talking of ‘healing divisions’ is Democrat-engineered spin, for all the Democrats we’ve spoken to who don’t like what is happening in their Party talk of ‘healing’ needed, without the slightest intention of changing their vote. I say a good Trump-style but younger Republican candidate would spin the idea of ‘healing’ towards policy changes that will be good for everyone and towards values that all can identify with ‘in the middle in some way’ (whether that’s true or not, it needs to be used as an attraction for the poorly informed). Lotsa way to go before 2024 though so we are not divorcing over it. lol. I shall make a Louisiana Gumbo, Cassie, onepot cooking, so it can’t be hard, and he can sort it out with you over that when we return. 🙂

I’ve told him he should read this thread.

We went firstly to the better one, the Hilton, on the river near the famous ‘bridge’ of Civil Rights memory, but Selma is such a rotten sinkhole around and about it we decided against booking in there (which is why we don’t book ahead) and took off back highway to the slew of accommodations there.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
November 11, 2022 11:47 am

There is an article up at Oz about Australian researchers doing research, including gain of function, in Wuhan lab. Read it briefly this morning. Seems we are not allowed to know who they are.

Can somebody paste the article here as quite interesting.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 11, 2022 11:49 am

Pwoperty

I pwobably have enough pwoperty.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 11, 2022 11:50 am

Danaesthetic – does someone have a definition?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 11, 2022 11:52 am

Vegan civil war.

Healthy plant-based diets better for the environment than less healthy plant-based diets (10 Nov)

“Because human health ultimately depends upon planetary health, future U.S. dietary guidelines should include nuanced consideration of environmental sustainability and recognize that not all plant-based diets confer the same health and environmental benefits,” said Daniel Wang, assistant professor in the Department of Nutrition at Harvard Chan School, the Channing Division of Network Medicine at Brigham and Women’s Hospital and Harvard Medical School and co-author of the study.

We must believe Prof. Wang of the Dept of Nutrition at Harvard Chan School, the Channing Division of Network Medicine at Brigham and Women’s Hospital and Harvard Medical School, since with that description he’s clearly an expert. May the most virtuous vegan win!

JC
JC
November 11, 2022 11:53 am

Rooster

Learn to code.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 11, 2022 11:53 am

Oops, forgot to blockquote the middle para. I blame an inadequate amount of Gaia-friendly vegetables in my diet.

calli
calli
November 11, 2022 11:54 am

But the lesser-known and dreadful truth is that poppies flourished on those battlefields only because of the brutality of war.

The fields were either tilled or grazed. The war changed all that, with the fields lying fallow and all the stock dead or moved.

Sure the nitrogen from high explosives might have made some difference if it transformed into a form that the plants could use. Otherwise it was just the simple fact of a load of ungerminated propagules waiting for the ideal conditions of churned soil, plenty of rain, no harvest and no livestock. Poppies produce huge numbers of seeds from one seedhead – multiply that by a single un-harvested season and you have the immense fields of poppies.

This morning I found a bunch of rosemary tied with a red bow at the front door left by my brother. It now sits in a vase on the hall table.

Lest We Forget

calli
calli
November 11, 2022 11:56 am

Danaesthetic – does someone have a definition?

Three treads and two risers?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 11, 2022 11:59 am

Hairy thinks the Republican narrative is calling for De Santis without ‘objective’ evidence that he would be as good as Trump

I’m with Hairy. The Dems stole the election, clear as crystal, and now the MSM is pushing the line that Trump was why the Republicans lost. That does two things: gets rid of Trump (with complicity of the RINOs, who are following the same line because they hate Trump and the GOP base/Tea Party, same as here with the Libs) and distracts from the real reason, which is the steal. It’s quite elegant really. Dems aren’t dumb, just evil.

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