Open Thread – Tue 22 Nov 2022


Canvassing for Votes, William Hogarth, 1755


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calli
calli
November 24, 2022 8:50 pm

Oops. That’s stoush. The other one was a fake.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 24, 2022 8:57 pm

WHO and the CDC declares measles as a global imminent threat, Covid to blame

They wants. They wants their preciousss…

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 24, 2022 8:58 pm

Do we really want to condone the physical mistreatment of citizens who are expressing an opinion, regardless of how obnoxious they are?
Huh?
The only person who claims Danny boy is obnoxious is Cassie of Sydney.
She wouldn’t have an ax to grind with Mr Lim, by any chance?

calli
calli
November 24, 2022 9:00 pm

Do we really want

Another mistake. What I really mean is “I” or “you”.

For individualists, there is no “we”. “We” is what the collective hides behind.

calli
calli
November 24, 2022 9:02 pm

Oh. I see the blowfly found the carrion while ignoring the principle.

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 24, 2022 9:02 pm

I always thought Mark Steyn was the best, but when he has David Starkey on, Steyn takes the back seat. Just brilliant, he should run for the premiership

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 24, 2022 9:02 pm

In Victoria this is just a normal interaction with police.

To give VicPlod some credit they have largely stopped shooting people.

Indolent
Indolent
November 24, 2022 9:04 pm
Ed Case
Ed Case
November 24, 2022 9:09 pm

What Principle?
By that measure, you’re supporting Drag Queen Story Hour to PreSchoolers.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Most weeks I see at least one arrest of a similar nature to the Danny Lim arrest (sans the part where he ends up in hospital).

He broke rule #1
When the cops turn up, be still, put your hands in the air (so to speak) & do as the officers direct you.

Most people subject to similar arrests fall loosely into one of four categories;
1) recidivist street hoodlum & troublemaker
2) muttering homeless or other weirdo (this is Mr. Danny Lim)
3) middle class airhead – usually female – with too many vodka cruisers on board & an attitude
4) career criminal or former jailbird.

Career criminals or former jailbirds are like pet dogs. When the cops turn up they do exactly as the officers tell them & don’t say a word out of line, or make a sudden move. They silently accept the cuffs & step into the paddy wagon.

Middle class airheads. Never having been in a confrontation with police, nor probably with anybody in their lives, they think everything is a screaming match. They believe the cops grabbing them to put ’em in the wagon is “assault” & they start screaming, in the belief the cops will back off. They’re easily subdued, usually by the cops saying “If you persist with not doing as instructed, I have capsicum spray & will use it

Recidivist street hoodlums. These struggle & make it hard for the cops, to “give them more paperwork”. They end up taken down hard, & certainly end up with the cuffs on really really tight, in a chokehold or some other uncomfortable hold, & get bounced off the pavement a couple of times (sorta like Danny Lim got). Then they’re thrown into the paddy wagon like a bag of feed & they hit the opposite wall so hard the wagon rocks on its suspension.

Muttering nutters like Danny Lim: They’re the most difficult, as they’re often not the full quid, making it near impossible to reason with them, & are so physically frail it is difficult to collar them without hurting them, especially as they’re so physically uncoordinated they’re likely to trip you or themselves up & if they’re grabbed as you’d grab a normal person there’s a risk of breaking bones.

calli
calli
November 24, 2022 9:10 pm

Buzz off blowfly.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

That’s what happens at my front door anyway.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 24, 2022 9:16 pm

Leigh Sales is unable to resist the siren sound of Aunty’s comforting bosom and returns as the 2nd host of Australian Story. The first, Caroline Jones, retired in 2016 giving hope to Australia’s increasingly geriatric workforce. She took the long goodbye (not to be confused with the Quentin Dumpster long goodbye) earlier this year. Too bad for any younger or browner members of the Hive waiting for their big break.

cohenite
November 24, 2022 9:22 pm

Every time I hear about another leftist atrocity I watch this which sums up both how the left work and how to deal with them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k5iu98W-WE

Zipster
November 24, 2022 9:26 pm

Protests Erupt at World’s Biggest iPhone Factory; US Activates 1st Space Force Unit Deterring China
01:00 Protests Erupt at World’s Biggest iPhone Factory
03:21 Taiwanese Colonel Paid to Surrender if China Invades
04;35 U.S. Activates 1st Space Force Unit Deterring China
07:09 Range of U.S. Indo-Pacific Command
07:32 House GOP Letter Presses TikTok on Privacy Concerns
08:55 China Secures 27 Year Lng Deal with Qatar
10:28 Moody’s Closes Consulting Business in China
11:26 China to Amend Competition Law with Steep Fines
12:43 Little Changed in U.S. Stance on China: Pillsbury

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
November 24, 2022 9:33 pm

Muttering nutters like Danny Lim: They’re the most difficult, as they’re often not the full quid, making it near impossible to reason with them, & are so physically frail it is difficult to collar them without hurting them, especially as they’re so physically uncoordinated they’re likely to trip you or themselves up & if they’re grabbed as you’d grab a normal person there’s a risk of breaking bones.

FMD did you read that before posting it? Makes you look like Monty, totally stupid comment. When you trip and face plant a 78 year old YOU WILL BREAK BONES. It will also not help if most of the weight of two plod are driving you into the ground.
Any person who tries to justify that police action is an arsehole and deserves to be treated in the same fashion.

calli
calli
November 24, 2022 9:33 pm

Chuckle. Just watching Miss Scarlet and the Duke.

“You can’t make people agree with you by killing them. We’re not the French.”.

😀

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Big Nambas. I’m not justifying it. Nor am I crucifying it.
I’m just stating facts.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 24, 2022 9:48 pm

When you have ageing lesbian Frank Elly presenting edgy talk show supposedly capturing the zeitgeist, Ita and the Friends of the ALPBC should find no problem finding something to fill the pockets of their cardigans.

Cassie of Sydney
November 24, 2022 9:49 pm

“I’m really loath to start a stouch, but I can’t stop thinking of the “diseased nanna” who was pepper sprayed. I know he’s a serial nuisance. It may well be that Dave Sharma could have complained the same of you when you approached him in the street. DrDuk had the same treatment from his MP”

Fail to see the analogy. And no, I’m not and have never been “rude” to Sharma. We engage in conversation. When I next see him, I’ll be forthright, but most certainly not rude to him. Oh and I don’t walk around with placards with words such as “fuck Dave Sharma”.

As I’ve said in comment before, I don’t condone the police behaviour but Lim is an attention seeker. I’m pretty sure if Lim was hanging around in front of your house, or your husband’s business, you’d call the police too.

Cassie of Sydney
November 24, 2022 9:50 pm

“Any person who tries to justify that police action is an arsehole and deserves to be treated in the same fashion.”

Oh, so you’re advocating violence?

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 24, 2022 9:54 pm

Watching a replay of the Japs kicking Deutschland arse.

The Zero is better than the Messerschmitt 109?


https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/zero-vs-bf-109-who-wins.56329/

Cassie of Sydney
November 24, 2022 9:58 pm

And for the record, I have never advocated that our elderly citizens, our serial nuisances such as Mr Lim or others “be sent to the scrap heap or better still done away with altogether”.

Cassie of Sydney
November 24, 2022 10:04 pm

I’ve worked in Sydney’s CBD for decades and I’ve seen Lim regularly. I’ve witnessed some of his behaviour. He can be rude and aggressive. The only reason he’s a favourite with luvvies is because of his crude placards, always containing the word “c-unt” and other vulgar words ….always directed at various Liberal and National politicians, particularly Tony Abbott. And just for the record, if he was walking around with rude placards about Albo, or Shorten, or Plibersek, I’d be opposed to that, I may not like Albo or Shorten but I don’t think it is appropriate to walk around Sydney’s CBD or any other public place draped in a poster describing Albo or Shorten or Abbott or Morrison as a CUNT.

Or maybe I’m just old fashioned.

Cassie of Sydney
November 24, 2022 10:07 pm

“Black Ballsays:
November 24, 2022 at 9:02 pm
I always thought Mark Steyn was the best, but when he has David Starkey on, Steyn takes the back seat. Just brilliant, he should run for the premiership”

Starkey and Steyn…two of the best.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Yep, had Mr. Lim’s adornments all been “Fukk Bill Shorten” & “Albo is a ‘C’-word” the luvvies would be exhibiting a diametrically opposite view of his treatment & injuries.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
November 24, 2022 10:16 pm

I work with ze Germans. I had great delight in greeting zem all today with ‘konichiwa’.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
November 24, 2022 10:18 pm

And a German work colleague gave me more info on his power bill. Has gone up 300% this year. It used to be $250 Euros per month. Now its 750 Euros per month. Gas is worse at 400% increase.
They are getting green socialist policies good and proper and they dont like it up em sir!

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
November 24, 2022 10:19 pm

But they are breaking ranks internally and saying their green policies are fng stoopid!
LOL.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 24, 2022 10:22 pm

Has Big Pharma Hijacked Evidence Based Medicine?

Is the Pope Polish in the woods?

Mater
November 24, 2022 10:22 pm

To give VicPlod some credit they have largely stopped shooting people

…with lethal ammunition.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 24, 2022 10:22 pm

Black Ball says:
November 24, 2022 at 9:02 pm

I always thought Mark Steyn was the best, but when he has David Starkey on, Steyn takes the back seat. Just brilliant, he should run for the premiership

Starkey was very insightful during the Queen’s mourning period. So much perspective!

Zipster
November 24, 2022 10:26 pm
Fair Shake
Fair Shake
November 24, 2022 10:35 pm

Bwa hahahaha. Dan voted early in Mulgrave. Says he will be busy on Saturday.
Two observations: 1. Scared to be out in public with voters. 2. Busy shredding and burning documents i suspect.

Task 1 accomplished make the fucker sweat they he may not get back in.

Task 2. Get ABBA voted in. Anyone But Bloody Andrews.

Task 3. Get Liberal candidate in. Mission abandoned due to appalling policies and leadership. Refer Task 2.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
November 24, 2022 10:42 pm

Another German colleague said the energy cost rises are crazy but at least they have not been allocated a daily energy quota. …yet.

But they realistically expect one when the winter sets in.

You could not make this shit up.
But what would u expect from a third world country.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 24, 2022 10:50 pm

Does Alan Joyce really deserve all of the bouquets and chocolates going his way?
After all, he expected taxpayer bailout a decade ago (Abbott told him to forget it- anyone remember that?)
Then he wanted a tax carve-out when they were solvent again.
Then he co-opted the entire business as a Gay Marriage carrier….
…and then he signed onto the One World group, alongside some er gay bashing caliphates.
He’s currently got the flying roo on the donor list for the Aboriginal House Of Lords.
The ONLY good thing I can remember him doing is holding firm against baggage handlers strikes.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 24, 2022 10:53 pm

Oh and he was a Quisling for the Fascist jab command lock-outs.
So, he can go fuck himself sideways with a pineapple.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 24, 2022 10:58 pm

He’s currently got the flying roo on the donor list for the Aboriginal House Of Lords.

That’s a double Scotch and a new keyboard you owe me.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
November 24, 2022 11:02 pm

Club Grubbery latest interview is with lawyer Julian Gillespie talking about new vax High Court case. Good financial backing including from USA (Childrens Health Defence / Senator Kennedy). Senior Counsel is Mark Robinson who has very good CV.

Also talking about a class action involving thousands of injured. Mentions a lot of the specialist evidence plans to include.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 24, 2022 11:11 pm

So, he can go fuck himself sideways with a pineapple.

Are you reading my mail? I said *exactly* that to AHPRA when they asked me to respond to their list of my supposed COVID crimes.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 24, 2022 11:24 pm

Duk- drinking to your victory, Caol Ila*. A bottle connected to my own travails with the effing AFP, had a good reason to crack it after all.
*might not be on your set list Zulu, but it’s a favourite. I try to keep a dram of Lagavulin, Coal Ila, Oban, Dalwhinnie and Glenmorangie on hand at our shack so we can drink our way up and down the great glen if the mood hits us.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 24, 2022 11:28 pm

might not be on your set list Zulu, but it’s a favourite

My compliments on your taste in good single malt – always remember that good Scotch is an after dinner drink, to be consumed by gentlemen. “Sliante!”

MatrixTransform
November 24, 2022 11:50 pm

Caol Ila

big thumb

jupes
jupes
November 24, 2022 11:52 pm

Does Alan Joyce really deserve all of the bouquets and chocolates going his way?

His value to shareholders is his ability to grift from the government. SloMo gave him a lazy half a bil.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 24, 2022 11:54 pm

Did he? Ferkin turkey. $5oom was the 2012 kick he wanted from Abbott iirc

Louis Litt
November 24, 2022 11:57 pm

Tell me – is Uraguan national anthem a Rossini composition.

Macka – are you an envious Italian – ha your not there ,

Tom
Tom
November 25, 2022 2:27 am

Karine Jean-Pierre Insists It’s Not Her Job To Answer Questions Like Some Sort Of Press Secretary.

JC
JC
November 25, 2022 2:52 am

Waffles, don’t be an oppositional fuckwit because you feel you need to oppose what I say… because I mock you.

1./ I didn’t say Joyce is the best CEO in the world. I was very specific in saying I thought he was the best airline CEO in the world.

2./ Qantas has a great net operating margin, which suggest it’s efficiently operated. That’s why it’s in the top to airline operations in the world.

Have you cleaned the toilets?

JC
JC
November 25, 2022 2:54 am

whoops

10…

Gabor
Gabor
November 25, 2022 3:24 am

jupes says:
November 24, 2022 at 11:52 pm

Does Alan Joyce really deserve all of the bouquets and chocolates going his way?

His value to shareholders is his ability to grift from the government. SloMo gave him a lazy half a bil.

We’ve been in this quasi fascist state for a long time now, with governments and big business having a symbiotic relationship. Add big unions to the mix.
Not fashionable to talk about it but.
And we all pay for it.

JC
JC
November 25, 2022 3:45 am

Look, I don’t see much merit in criticizing Joyce for taking the the COVID money, but then he didn’t close down the economy. Call me an old fashioned libertarian, but the state forces you to close down your business or out of a job, you’re morally entitled to compensation.

Tom
Tom
November 25, 2022 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
November 25, 2022 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
November 25, 2022 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
November 25, 2022 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
November 25, 2022 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
November 25, 2022 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
November 25, 2022 4:09 am
JC
JC
November 25, 2022 5:02 am

What a nice , heart warming story on Thanksgiving.

https://www.commonsense.news/p/the-cancer-stories-you-never-hear

JC
JC
November 25, 2022 5:10 am

And the always faithful and reliable , Fair Land, which the WSj has been running every year on Thanksgiving since the early 60s.

And you know what, it’s also Australia’s story too – we’re just a little smaller.

And the Fair Land
For all our social discord we remain the longest enduring society of free men governing themselves without benefit of kings or dictators.

Any one whose labors take him into the far reaches of the country, as ours lately have done, is bound to mark how the years have made the land grow fruitful.

This is indeed a big country, a rich country, in a way no array of figures can measure and so in a way past belief of those who have not seen it. Even those who journey through its Northeastern complex, into the Southern lands, across the central plains and to its Western slopes can only glimpse a measure of the bounty of America.

And a traveler cannot but be struck on his journey by the thought that this country, one day, can be even greater. America, though many know it not, is one of the great underdeveloped countries of the world; what it reaches for exceeds by far what it has grasped.

So the visitor returns thankful for much of what he has seen, and, in spite of everything, an optimist about what his country might be. Yet the visitor, if he is to make an honest report, must also note the air of unease that hangs everywhere.

For the traveler, as travelers have been always, is as much questioned as questioning. And for all the abundance he sees, he finds the questions put to him ask where men may repair for succor from the troubles that beset them.

His countrymen cannot forget the savage face of war. Too often they have been asked to fight in strange and distant places, for no clear purpose they could see and for no accomplishment they can measure. Their spirits are not quieted by the thought that the good and pleasant bounty that surrounds them can be destroyed in an instant by a single bomb. Yet they find no escape, for their survival and comfort now depend on unpredictable strangers in far-off corners of the globe.

How can they turn from melancholy when at home they see young arrayed against old, black against white, neighbor against neighbor, so that they stand in peril of social discord. Or not despair when they see that the cities and countryside are in need of repair, yet find themselves threatened by scarcities of the resources that sustain their way of life. Or when, in the face of these challenges, they turn for leadership to men in high places—only to find those men as frail as any others.

So sometimes the traveler is asked whence will come their succor. What is to preserve their abundance, or even their civility? How can they pass on to their children a nation as strong and free as the one they inherited from their forefathers? How is their country to endure these cruel storms that beset it from without and from within?

Of course the stranger cannot quiet their spirits. For it is true that everywhere men turn their eyes today much of the world has a truly wild and savage hue. No man, if he be truthful, can say that the specter of war is banished. Nor can he say that when men or communities are put upon their own resources they are sure of solace; nor be sure that men of diverse kinds and diverse views can live peaceably together in a time of troubles.

But we can all remind ourselves that the richness of this country was not born in the resources of the earth, though they be plentiful, but in the men that took its measure. For that reminder is everywhere—in the cities, towns, farms, roads, factories, homes, hospitals, schools that spread everywhere over that wilderness.

We can remind ourselves that for all our social discord we yet remain the longest enduring society of free men governing themselves without benefit of kings or dictators. Being so, we are the marvel and the mystery of the world, for that enduring liberty is no less a blessing than the abundance of the earth.

And we might remind ourselves also, that if those men setting out from Delftshaven had been daunted by the troubles they saw around them, then we could not this autumn be thankful for a fair land.

JC
JC
November 25, 2022 5:23 am

Yep, there’s slave labor in oz according to this genius. I’m starting to think that it’s possible these idiots are worse than the Rudd/Slapper governments.

Tony Burke
@Tony_Burke
·

Under the Liberals and Nationals horticulture workers were getting paid as little as $4 an hour and had to scrounge through bins to find food.

Our Secure Jobs, Better Pay Bill will help end this sort of exploitation.

No one mentally competent is scrounging around bins in Australia because they’re underpaid by employers. Dishonest piece of shit.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 25, 2022 6:24 am

We’ve been in this quasi fascist state for a long time now, with governments and big business having a symbiotic relationship. Add big unions to the mix.
Not fashionable to talk about it but. And we all pay for it.

Fascism is best described as a marriage between the corporation and the state – Mussolini.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 25, 2022 6:27 am

Under the Liberals and Nationals horticulture workers were getting paid as little as $4 an hour and had to scrounge through bins to find food.

Piecework doesn’t pay much until you’re good at it.

Our Secure Jobs, Better Pay Bill will help end this sort of exploitation.

Ha ha.
Burke is talking about Pacific Island Guest Workers here.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 25, 2022 6:28 am

Call me an old fashioned libertarian, but the state forces you to close down your business or out of a job, you’re morally entitled to compensation.

Except for the little detail that the state has no money. What needed to happen was there be NO ‘sit down money’ paid to buy the publics compliance with the COVID lockdowns, forcing the whole stupid scheme to fail within days.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 25, 2022 6:31 am

The solution is to cancel the Guest Worker Scheme, it’s just a back door entry to Australia, and tell the scabby farmers to either hire locals on the Award Rates, or pick their fucking strawberries themselves.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 25, 2022 6:31 am
flyingduk
flyingduk
November 25, 2022 6:43 am

The solution is to cancel the Guest Worker Scheme, it’s just a back door entry to Australia, and tell the scabby farmers to either hire locals on the Award Rates, or pick their fucking strawberries themselves.

What is the ‘award rate’ for sitting on your arse on welfare ?

Dot
Dot
November 25, 2022 6:46 am

Hmmm.

$4 per hour. The dole pays what, say 8.35 ph minimum! (For 40 h pw of being unemployed).

Seems like BS.

The solution is more excise tax, more carbon taxes, more regulating coal and natural gas out of business and high stamp duty and development application fees?

Hmmm?

If you cut payroll tax, excise and tariffs alone, the jobs that would open up and disposable income of the indigent and low paid increasing significantly would pleasantly surprise most people.

Funnily enough, it’s illegal to eat trash and there us a fee to scavenge at waste management centres.

Thanks, big government!

calli
calli
November 25, 2022 6:49 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 25, 2022 6:49 am

Elon: I’m firing 75% of Twitter employees.
Pope Francis: Hold my beer.

Pope Fires Entire Leadership From Global Catholic Charity Amid Harrassment Allegations (24 Nov)

“In a resounding decree released on Tuesday, Pope Francis sacked all leaders of the Caritas Internationalis charity, appointing a temporary Vatican administrator to head the confederation of 162 Catholic relief, development, and social service organizations operating in over 200 countries and territories worldwide.

According to Reuters, Pope Francis decided to sack the entire management of the charity following allegations of humiliation and harassment of staff at the organization’s headquarters in Rome. Several current and former charity employees spoke to the news agency, with one former employee saying that workers at the charity headquarters had suffered harassment, fear, and “ritual humiliation.” “

I don’t know any details of this but it’s a pretty breathtaking action. Is it related in anyway to Cdl Pell’s efforts to clean house?

calli
calli
November 25, 2022 6:55 am

It added, however, that there was no evidence that financial abuse or sexual harassment had taken place, but identified a number of problems that “require immediate action.” They said these failures were mainly in the area of corporate management and procedures, and had a negative impact on staff team spirit and morale.

Clearly a number of complaints have been made. How serious in essence remains to be seen.

rosie
rosie
November 25, 2022 7:06 am

Please BoN could you show us the organisational chart that links the Caritas sackings with Cardinal Pell.

No evidence emerged of financial mismanagement

Caritas Australia not impacted by Internationalis leadership spill

rosie
rosie
November 25, 2022 7:07 am

Snap, sort of, Calli.

rosie
rosie
November 25, 2022 7:09 am

My recollection is Tyler Durden was one of those baying for Cardinal Pell’s blood.
Zero hedge wants money to access their archive so I’m not able to confirm.

rosie
rosie
November 25, 2022 7:13 am

Sad news for turbine lovers.
I’m waiting for the climate madness to end.
It will but not before a great deal of damage is done.
Ark Energy scales back huge Queensland wind farm to avoid ecological sites

rosie
rosie
November 25, 2022 7:17 am

Self serve check outs in low trust societies.
don’t judge anyone

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 25, 2022 7:19 am

I figured the news was noteworthy Rosie. Firing the leadership of Caritas International and appointing an administrator is a huge step to take.

As I said: I don’t know what is behind it, but if it an action to clean up a situation then that is a welcome move. I which such things would be done for the Red Cross, for example.

Dot
Dot
November 25, 2022 7:19 am

My recollection is Tyler Durden was one of those baying for Cardinal Pell’s blood.
Zero hedge wants money to access their archive so I’m not able to confirm.

This is pretty weird.

Could be one of those BS paranoid Russian Orthodox conspiracy theories that the church is the Roman Empire, which controls everything, for da Jews.

(Hence why Saint Vlad the Murderer needs to ethnically cleanse “the “Ukraine”” of “Khazarian Jews”…).

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 25, 2022 7:20 am

And yes I read the Vatican press release, which is linked in the story.

rosie
rosie
November 25, 2022 7:23 am

Barely newsworthy but then
Zero hedge is a rag and Durden an anti Catholic bigot.

I guess you already knew that.

calli
calli
November 25, 2022 7:27 am

It may well be that the directors are old fashioned and expect their co-workers to actually…work. It may be that the complaints are frivolous (to us) but the law says that they have to be investigated. It may be that Pope Francis is using it as an opportunity to place people he wants in the top jobs at Caritas.

Anything is possible. Once you rule out money and sex, the pickings are pretty slim – leadership style and competence would then be the front runners.

rosie
rosie
November 25, 2022 7:28 am
rosie
rosie
November 25, 2022 7:29 am

Sorry probably should have said at least one of the writers hiding behind the durden mask is a bigot.

Dot
Dot
November 25, 2022 7:30 am

I assumed that was the case simply because the nastiest stuff online is usually from some bitter Orthodox dude.

It is really quite sad. It’s usually not from the Greek Orthodox either. I think it is a hangover from the old USSR propaganda. The KGB (Hi Putin) did try to kill John Paul II, remember.

rosie
rosie
November 25, 2022 7:35 am

True Calli, there might be a very unpleasant environment of yelling and put downs, impossible to know, and if there was the replacement is perfectly reasonable, but not really of any great interest.
If there is no suggestion of financial mismanagement then some ulterior motive for replacement seems a little far-fetched.
Each subset of Caritas eg Caritas Australia seems pretty independent.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 25, 2022 7:36 am

It’s the biggest international news item I’ve seen this week. And I don’t see it as anti-Catholic at all – rather it’s good news and laudible when things are cleaned up. A rare event indeed. There should be more of it in large organizations.

Indolent
Indolent
November 25, 2022 7:39 am
Razey
Razey
November 25, 2022 7:42 am

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
November 25, 2022 at 7:36 am
It’s the biggest international news item I’ve seen this week. And I don’t see it as anti-Catholic at all – rather it’s good news and laudible when things are cleaned up. A rare event indeed. There should be more of it in large organizations.

Are the Leftards going to cleanout pedo’s from their ranks? Hell no, they an integral part of it.

duncanm
duncanm
November 25, 2022 7:44 am

rosiesays:
November 25, 2022 at 7:29 am
Sorry probably should have said at least one of the writers hiding behind the durden mask is a bigot.

one of thousands.. idiot.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 25, 2022 7:44 am

Squib Andrews has voted early to avoid the angry scenes he would face on Saturday.

Indolent
Indolent
November 25, 2022 7:44 am
Top Ender
Top Ender
November 25, 2022 7:46 am

Four out of five Australians believe it is important to establish a representative Indigenous body that has constitutional protection, according to Reconciliation Australia’s biennial survey.

Since 2008, Reconciliation Australia’s barometer survey has been gauging the attitudes and experiences of Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians, including towards each other.

Sure they do. Try it on then.

Oz

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 25, 2022 7:46 am

As for anti-Catholicism, it’s actually anti-Christianity that is issue. Anti-Catholicism is a component of a wider problem.

Vatican News: Global Christian Persecution ‘Still Rising’ (22 Nov)

Of course anti-semitism is also rising, and all three have the same cause.

Indolent
Indolent
November 25, 2022 7:49 am
duncanm
duncanm
November 25, 2022 7:53 am

duncanmsays:
November 25, 2022 at 7:44 am
rosiesays:
November 25, 2022 at 7:29 am
Sorry probably should have said at least one of the writers hiding behind the durden mask is a bigot.

one of thousands.. idiot.

I apologise unreservedly Rosie.. it is only 3 or 4.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
November 25, 2022 7:54 am

They teach us’: how whales can help dispel the myth of green capitalism

This is the dumbest thing you’ll read or year. If there was ever a book in search of a justification for its pre-conceived assertions, this is it. Of course, if capitalism can’t fix it, it must be replaced with something like Lysenkoism, right? Or maybe just skip the starvation part and murder millions from the get go.

Appraising the merit of the green capitalist policies on their own terms, Buller picks them apart to see if they pass “basic tests”: do they work now? Will they ever? Will they create injustice in the process?

Wait, wasn’t this about da environment? Bint skipped straight to injustice as though it’s the same thing, which demonstrates that environmentalism is indeed a euphemism for any Marxist trope the author desires.

But wait, it gets worse.

Coming back to the whale, at the end of our conversation, Buller says: “They are sentient species for how the ocean and the planet as a whole is faring.” She rolls up her sleeve to show me a small whale tattooed on her arm, the same one that’s on the front of her book and that’s pictured at the start of each chapter. “Their lifespans are so long that when they die you can see the invention of plastic and the acceleration of fuel-based infrastructure and agriculture,” she says. “They hold it in their bodies.”

Whale entrails. How apt.

If modern universities teach us anything, it’s how to say something in 10,000 words what could be said in 10, yet still fabulously wrong. Sophisticated bollocks on steroidal stilts.

duncanm
duncanm
November 25, 2022 7:55 am

Musk is on the ball.

Elon Musk @elonmusk

16h
Hate speech impressions down by 1/3 from pre-spike levels. Congrats to Twitter team!

15h
I have half a mind to wag my finger at the 1500 accounts that caused the spike, but I shall forebear ?

Reducing the max allowed tweets/day to a number below what a speed typist on meth could do was helpful

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 25, 2022 7:56 am

Daniel Andrews could be driven from government by his own constituents as voters in the traditional Labor stronghold turn out in force to support his independent rival.

Independent Ian Cook was treated to royal-like status on Thursday as early voters in the Victorian Premier’s traditionally safe seat of Mulgrave arrived to vote.

Situated just across the highway from Mr Andrews’ electoral office, Daily Mail Australia attended the Mulgrave district early voting centre, southeast of Melbourne’s CBD, to conduct its own mini-poll of the masses.

The results indicated a dire outlook for the Premier’s chances of retaining his seat, with not a single person questioned by Daily Mail Australia indicating they would vote for Mr Andrews.

Between 1-3pm, Daily Mail Australia spoke to a random selection of 35 people, of all ages, genders and backgrounds, as they darted in and around of the Noble Park North voting centre – and it makes dire reading for Labor.

And it seems unlike his opponent, the Premier himself wasn’t willing to front up to his constituency voters, dropping his own ballot off early in a different electorate in the city instead – saying he was ‘busy’ on Saturday.

Link

Indolent
Indolent
November 25, 2022 8:01 am

Re Twitter. Yes, wow, but perhaps not all that surprising

Jack Posobiec ??
@JackPosobiec

Wow

Crossie
Crossie
November 25, 2022 8:02 am

Indolent @7:46, if Fauci doesn’t remember anything they could ask Mike Pence to whom he was reporting. Pence is much younger and ought to be able to remember. There, problem solved.

Roger
Roger
November 25, 2022 8:07 am

Musk to release internal Twitter discussions on censoring the Hunter Biden laptop story.

Crossie
Crossie
November 25, 2022 8:09 am

What I found extraordinary is that if COVID-19 was such an existential crisis why wasn’t a sharp intellect appointed to handle it. Instead the whole thing was handed over to a power hungry geriatric who mismanaged the AIDS epidemic when he was much younger and supposedly more able.

By retaining Fauci in the leadership role tells me that the establishment always knew COVID-19 was not a new plague and it didn’t matter who was in charge. We have been had, on a grand scale.

Indolent
Indolent
November 25, 2022 8:12 am
Razey
Razey
November 25, 2022 8:16 am

If Hunchback loses its seat, I predict the worlds largest street party will be held in Melbourne.

Roger
Roger
November 25, 2022 8:17 am

…the Premier himself wasn’t willing to front up to his constituency voters, dropping his own ballot off early in a different electorate in the city instead – saying he was ‘busy’ on Saturday.

Hopefully writing his concession speech.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 25, 2022 8:17 am

Crossie when you look back at what our political class did in 2020-22 on orders from foreign interests, they deserve nothing but hatred and contempt.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 25, 2022 8:18 am

Lenny Henry wades in on John Cleese cancel culture debate as he calls for ‘accountability’

Accountability to whom? And no waving details away with a nebulous ‘accountable to society’ unless you can describe the mechanism whereby all of society demands accountability.

It is in fact something among a few shrill voices on social media and activist organisations that have adopted a strategy of overrepresenting themselves in social media.

And the accountability consists of justifying for thinking in a way other than they demand.

And it is not even a matter of justification – there is no justification. If you disagree you are bad.

And neither is it really accountability. It is punishment. It is terrorising business with the mirage that they will fail if they do not cancel someone.

Lenny Henry had the exquisite bad luck to sign up to the embarrassment known as ‘Rings of Power’. He will have spent the last six months explaining that the only reason the show failed was that the fans were toxic.

Think about that (h/t custard). They made a series thinking it was up to the audience to ignore their own thoughts and feelings and flock to see something they did not like simply because the people who made it liked it.

How is that for entitled?

“How dare you not like what we expect you to like!”

Which brings us back to…cancel culture.

Dot
Dot
November 25, 2022 8:18 am

Daniel Andrews could be driven from government by his own constituents as voters in the traditional Labor stronghold turn out in force to support his independent rival.

Independent Ian Cook was treated to royal-like status on Thursday as early voters in the Victorian Premier’s traditionally safe seat of Mulgrave arrived to vote.

Faith in Australians partially restored, temporarily at least…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 25, 2022 8:18 am

They teach us’: how whales can help dispel the myth of green capitalism

Does she say anything about how offshore wind turbines are killing her beloved whales?

How to kill whales with offshore wind (27 Sep)

Roger
Roger
November 25, 2022 8:18 am

Was this on the news?

Even the ABC.

Razey
Razey
November 25, 2022 8:20 am

Rogersays:
November 25, 2022 at 8:17 am
…the Premier himself wasn’t willing to front up to his constituency voters, dropping his own ballot off early in a different electorate in the city instead – saying he was ‘busy’ on Saturday.

Hopefully writing his concession speech.

No need to pack up its office, it’s been empty for years. Should organise a cleaner prior to Ian Cook moving in.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 25, 2022 8:23 am

Evidently the media have finally found the villain in the Colorado gay bar shooting. It’s not the shooter, it’s his dad (the NT News, syndicated):

The father of the suspect in a deadly mass shooting at a Colorado nightclub has told the victims’ families he is “so sorry for (their) loss”, while also claiming that he “do(es) n’t do gay”, in a shocking TV interview.

Aaron Brink, 48, bizarrely claimed during an interview with CBS 8- San Diego that his first concern upon learning his son Anderson Lee Aldrich allegedly killed five people at an LGBTQ establishment, was whether his child was homosexual.

“I was scared. I was like ‘Oh my god, s – t, is he gay?’ And he’s not gay,” he said with an exaggerated sigh of relief.

Mr Brink is a former MMA bloke, and also former porn star. He identifies as a conservative Republican, so perfect fodder.

A CBS 8 reporter explained to Mr Brink that Mr Aldrich is accused of carrying out a mass shooting at a gay bar, killing five people and wounding many more.

“OK, well s – t, he’s accused of doing that, I’m glad he’s not gay. I can say that, I’m glad he’s not gay,” Mr Brink said in a shocking response.

Despite being estranged from his idiot son for years, Mr Brink is now going to be Hitler 2023.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 25, 2022 8:23 am

@GiorgiaMeloni = badass

She’s annoying all the right people.

French Interior Minister Labels Italy An “Enemy” Of France After Migration Row (24 Nov)

“Following growing tensions between Italy and France over the issue of boat migrants in the Mediterranean, French Interior Minister Gérald Darmanin has resorted to extremely harsh rhetoric, referring to the Italian government as “enemies of France.”

Darmanin made the comment in response to a question from a National Rally MP Mathilde Paris during a Q&A session in the French parliament, saying Italy is “attacking France.” “

The “attack” of course is that Italy is stopping the boats…which then sail to France instead.

Cassie of Sydney
November 25, 2022 8:24 am

I hope Ian Cook wins in Mulgrave, I truly do, but I don’t think he will. Or maybe I’m just too much of a pessimist.

Indolent
Indolent
November 25, 2022 8:26 am

By retaining Fauci in the leadership role tells me that the establishment always knew COVID-19 was not a new plague and it didn’t matter who was in charge. We have been had, on a grand scale.

I think you’ve got that back to front. After 40 odd years in charge of public health during which time it reduced dramatically, in inverse proportion to the increase in big pharma profits, he was the perfect person for the job, with the added bonus of a total lack of integrity, not to mention humanity.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 25, 2022 8:30 am

Dunno about Despite being estranged from his idiot son KD. For me, a bit like Marcus Aurelis, dumping and dumping on your own children is a moral failure, hands down.
*not the same as murder obvs, but he is the adult in the relationship

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 25, 2022 8:31 am

Now- you’re gonna love this, Sancho- I’m off to the gymn

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 25, 2022 8:34 am

Slug Gate victim Ian Cook displaying ten times the nous of Matthew Guy (the Hun):

Daniel Andrews has been lashed for insulting his electorate by casting his early ballot at a city pre-poll venue instead of in his seat of Mulgrave.

Mr Andrews, with Cath, and their two eldest children, Noah and Grace, voted at a polling booth near parliament on Thursday evening

Independent candidate Ian Cook, who is confident he can win Mr Andrews’ seat, said the early vote came as no surprise. “I’ve met thousands of local residents and not one has seen him for years,” he said.

“I keep hearing he is permanantly AWOL. This is just another slap in the face from Daniel Andrews to the people of Mulgrave. No wonder we feel taken for granted, what kind of local member doesn’t show up at all in their electorate?

“This is how he governs, it’s all about the photoshoot and not about the people.”

Brilliant.

Also – although Cook doesn’t use the term ‘insulting his electorate’, the journalistician from the Hun certainly did.

Winds are being sniffed.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 25, 2022 8:35 am
Sylvester the cat
Sylvester the cat
November 25, 2022 8:37 am

If Hunchback loses its seat, I predict –

– A strong sulphurous smell to extend over Viktoristan
= sales of champagne, party balloons and paper shredders to go ballistic
– staircase sales to plummet
– Vikpol blackshirts to start a statewide manhunt for the victor
– hunchback to demand a recount using Arizona’s voting machines

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 25, 2022 8:38 am

I will own to only ever having watched a very small amount of Lenny Henry, and that many years ago. I think it is telling that I have to construe that it did not impress me much from the fact I did not continue watching his shows rather than having a definite image of not being impressed. This is also to say that he cannot have been bad – I would likely remember that.

Don’t know if other cats had different experiences. It might just have been me.

For whatever reason he has decided to make a move into drama.

By drama, I do not mean that lifeless dreck called ‘Rings of Power’ – I mean the drama of actors nursing broken hearts due to unfeeling audience.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
November 25, 2022 8:42 am

Does she say anything about how offshore wind turbines are killing her beloved whales?

I think that’s part of green capitalism, Bruce. Starvation and darkness are the answers, and whales are the inheritors of the earth, if only they could grab things with those damned flippers.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 25, 2022 8:44 am

Dunno about Despite being estranged from his idiot son KD. For me, a bit like Marcus Aurelis, dumping and dumping on your own children is a moral failure, hands down.

Dunno about the dunno Wally. From the piece:

Mr Brink, who lives in San Diego and has been estranged from Mr Aldrich for years, said he doesn’t support same-sex relationships.

The shooter is 22 years old. Parenthood is about direction and dictatorship, decreasing slightly as a child creeps towards 18 – although the severity of any sporadic leash-snapping may increase, dependent on the kid’s course of action or intended course of action. After 18 it becomes about advice and guidance – which is either received or ignored.

What would you have Brink do – support his mass-murdering kid he hadn’t seen for years, and who partook of a lifestyle he didn’t support in the presser?

‘The important thing is that my son is living his best life.’ Yeah righto.

Roger
Roger
November 25, 2022 8:53 am

I hope Ian Cook wins in Mulgrave, I truly do, but I don’t think he will. Or maybe I’m just too much of a pessimist.

What is life without hope, Cassie?

Sylvester the cat
Sylvester the cat
November 25, 2022 8:54 am

Whatever the result in Vik elections, does anyone expect tomorrows election to improve the corruption in Sicktoria?
Do we expect vikpol to suddenly improve?
Will the hundreds of nanny laws be repealed?
Will coal fired power stations reappear?

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
November 25, 2022 8:55 am

I also wish Ian Cook the best of luck in Mulgrave. I suspect a lot of people vote by trying to guess the “ winner” and voting for that person. So Dan being on the outer at the moment and Cook being currently popular will work in Cooks favour. We have champagne on hand, just in case.

Roger
Roger
November 25, 2022 9:01 am

And yes I read the Vatican press release, which is linked in the story.

If only the pope could exhibit the same decisiveness in dealing with the German bishop’s
conference. Why doesn’t he? That’s a much bigger story.

Mater
November 25, 2022 9:03 am

Whatever the result in Vik elections, does anyone expect tomorrows election to improve the corruption in Sicktoria?

Probably not, but the political wonks need to be reminded that there can still be consequences.

Sylvester the cat
Sylvester the cat
November 25, 2022 9:03 am

A question to compete with “What is good in life, Conan?”

“What is life without hope, Cassie?

Answers:
1. Melbourne residency
2. There is no hope. Just more hunchback.
3. Danocracy
4. Ostrailer citizenship

sfw
sfw
November 25, 2022 9:04 am

Sylvester, not much will change if the Libs win. They’re pretty well welded onto much of Andrews leftism. They’ll do the sensible things financially, get rid of as much of his ridiculous infrastructure builds as possible. They’ll try to keep taxes low and get the budget under control.

That’s about it, they’ll continue to fund and promote leftist causes and people. They won’t get rid of Andrews appointments to powerful posts and probably appoint similar people if they have the opportunity. They may have a Royal Commission into the covid madness but as they were fully supportive of most of it the terms of reference will be very tight and will exclude anything that the Libs went along with.

In short things will be much the same.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 25, 2022 9:04 am
Roger
Roger
November 25, 2022 9:05 am

Pace Lenny Henry, cancel culture is not accountability.

Accountability means you get to defend yourself before disciplinary action is decided.

Cancel culture is mob justice.

Roger
Roger
November 25, 2022 9:08 am

2. There is no hope. Just more hunchback.

There’s always emigration.

WolfmanOz
November 25, 2022 9:09 am

Cassie of Sydney says:
November 25, 2022 at 8:24 am
I hope Ian Cook wins in Mulgrave, I truly do, but I don’t think he will. Or maybe I’m just too much of a pessimist.

A few days ago I thought Ian Cook had a 10% chance . . . now I’d be saying 50/50.

The Imbecile is in serious trouble . . . however, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the vote early vote often become more prevalent in Mulgrave,

calli
calli
November 25, 2022 9:09 am

Reducing the max allowed tweets/day to a number below what a speed typist on meth could do was helpful

I hope Musk has a first class bodyguard or ten.

Also, Cleese is funnier than Lenny Henry. That’s all you need to know.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
November 25, 2022 9:11 am

<Indolent says:
November 25, 2022 at 8:12 am
Monica Crowley
@MonicaCrowley
.
@GiorgiaMeloni = badass

Beating up Italians is easy.
She is not tough till she starts mass deportation of illegals.

Christine
Christine
November 25, 2022 9:11 am

Alan Joyce deserves no bouquets.
His admirers DO forget he went begging to Abbott (the taxpayers) and rightly got knocked back.
Taking on the unions? Not only lowly baggage handlers. The pilots at the top of the tree.
Thousands of stranded passengers. To later boast that it had all been good for the airline’s reputation.
Yes, good for the shareholders
(Boasted about the power of the homosexual business community)

No bouquets – more custard pies

Sylvester the cat
Sylvester the cat
November 25, 2022 9:11 am

“What is life without hope, Cassie?”

Abandon all hope all ye who enter here!

calli
calli
November 25, 2022 9:13 am

From lotocoti’s Twitter link:

Heh

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 25, 2022 9:13 am

Nanny Neil Mitchell 3aw soiling another nappy over covid numbers.
“Brett Sutton predicted this” according to Neil. Mug punters love shit tipsters.
Mitchell is doing good work skewering Andrews on being absent and arrogant in his own seat and giving Ian Cook a big boost.

chrisl
chrisl
November 25, 2022 9:15 am

And The Age describes the cowardly,scared, hunchback voting early as…
A break with tradition
Perhaps he will vote again on Saturday and The Age will describe it as
Encouraging people to vote

calli
calli
November 25, 2022 9:16 am

Never give up hope.

Though here at journey’s end I lie
in darkness buried deep,
beyond all towers strong and high,
beyond all mountains steep,
above all shadows rides the Sun
and Stars for ever dwell:
I will not say the Day is done,
nor bid the Stars farewell.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 25, 2022 9:17 am

Very hard to get a feel for the Victoriastan election from the other side of the country. Even The Green-Left Radio (now Half) Hour formerly known as AM was hedging its bets this morning. Alas, I have very little faith in either the majority of Victoriastanis or the Victoriastan Lieboral party.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 25, 2022 9:17 am

Hopefully writing his concession speech.

It will be his last great thumbing his nose to Victorians. Once out he will have no further need to pretend to be a caring Premier solicitous always about their welfare. The mask can come off and he can revel in his deep-felt contempt.

In his speech will rattle off the litany of stupid, vindictive, self-serving, partisan, and wanton things he has done phrased as if they were great achievements – taunting Victorians to their very faces, smug in his awareness that there is nothing that can be done to him now.

A man without intellect or conscience. A very poisonous man indeed.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
November 25, 2022 9:18 am

By retaining Fauci in the leadership role tells me that the establishment always knew COVID-19 was not a new plague

The person who kept Fauci on despite firing numerous other Obama-era appointees, was the same person who hired Alex Azar:

In February [2020], Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar invoked the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act. The 2005 law empowers the HHS secretary to provide legal protection to companies making or distributing critical medical supplies, such as vaccines and treatments, unless there’s “willful misconduct” by the company. [CNBC]

This happened all around the world too, but the USA is such a huge market you have to wonder whether any of these injuries, or the entire mass-vax programme itself, would have still happened without the indemnity.

Real Deal
Real Deal
November 25, 2022 9:19 am

I hope Ian Cook wins in Mulgrave, I truly do, but I don’t think he will. Or maybe I’m just too much of a pessimist.

I don’t think he’ll come close either, Cassie. Sadly. Neither do I think the coalition will come close either. Andrews has Victoria boxed up completely.

I would be delighted to be proven wrong, though.

Crossie
Crossie
November 25, 2022 9:19 am

Sylvester, not much will change if Libs win,

sfw, why can’t they adopt the Peter Garrett philosophy from 2007? Said the right things for the election but he still let it slip that they will change everything when they win. You never know, if changes lead to improvements Libs may even be forgiven.

calli
calli
November 25, 2022 9:25 am

Just thinking about that little poem – one of the reasons the Woke want to subvert Tolkien and his sub-creation.

It smacks way too much of the divine and must be diluted.

Roger
Roger
November 25, 2022 9:26 am

Nanny Neil Mitchell 3aw soiling another nappy over covid numbers.
“Brett Sutton predicted this” according to Neil.

Somewhere on the interwebs an American commenter referred to Sutton as “looking like the cousin who always wants to tell you what new anti-depressant meds he’s on.”

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 25, 2022 9:27 am

Also, Cleese is funnier than Lenny Henry. That’s all you need to know.

I’ve been reading Michael Palin’s diaries after being given them by a friend ($2 ea at Vinnies with the sticker left on). He seems to acknowledge that Cleese was the funniest of the Pythons and highly motivated by money yet still describes being picked up by him with his latest girlfriend in the Rolls. Palin still has his Mini I believe.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 25, 2022 9:27 am

Does she say anything about how offshore wind turbines are killing her beloved whales?

Turbines are noisy and annoying enough on land, but at least air conducts sound less efficiently.

The vibrations from the towers imparted into water would travel for miles and be inescapable. And remember, life is predominately made of water, so vibrations in the sea would be enter and vibrate in every cavity or space in sea creatures bodies.

If those stupid potential kujira-burgers had opposable thumbs they could do something about it.

Stupid whales.

Roger
Roger
November 25, 2022 9:27 am

Andrews has Victoria boxed up completely.

We’ll see.

It could well get worse…minority government with Green & Teal support.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 25, 2022 9:30 am

Peak ALPBC? Now listening to the someone on the City of Fremantle on the climate emergency.

Sylvester the cat
Sylvester the cat
November 25, 2022 9:30 am

hunchback has brought flood, fire, plague and pestilence to the state.

Does this give us a hint about his origins?

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 25, 2022 9:39 am

Also, Cleese is funnier than Lenny Henry. That’s all you need to know.

The Rings of Power joke is pretty funny.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 25, 2022 9:42 am

hunchback has brought flood, fire, plague and pestilence to the state.

Turns out the four horsemen of the apocalypse were actually just pulling the chariot that carries Dan.

It would be nice to see him turfed out tomorrow – and I am not even Victorian? But one mustn’t mistake the desirability of an outcome for its likelihood.

But I would think Ian Cook is giving the mutant a fright. And maybe the Libs can reflect that Cook has made more inroads on Andrews’ domain than they have even on the fringes of Labor.

will
will
November 25, 2022 9:49 am

In his speech will rattle off the litany of stupid, vindictive, self-serving, partisan, and wanton things he has done phrased as if they were great achievements – taunting Victorians to their very faces, smug in his awareness that there is nothing that can be done to him now.

You mean much like Helen Clark’s concession speech as PM in NZ?

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 25, 2022 9:53 am

Great to see Cam Smith and Adam Scott back in Australia to play golf for the summer. The amount of money, time and the defacto residence requirements of the US PGA means most don’t bother.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 25, 2022 9:56 am

Greg Norman is a bit of a dick but also made a point of playing in Australia. I saw him play out at The Vines, including blowing up at some spectator who took a photo during his backswing.

Indolent
Indolent
November 25, 2022 9:56 am

This is the really big one. The one they want to use to control every last aspect of our lives.

President Trump: “We Have To Defeat The Climate Hoaxsters!”

Roger
Roger
November 25, 2022 9:59 am

‘Nicola Sturgeon has been accused of resorting to the “Trump playbook” with “dangerous” language suggesting that Scots opposed to her independence referendum plans are not democrats.’

Um…Isn’t that the Biden playbook? Accuse your opponents of being Fascists?

mem
mem
November 25, 2022 10:01 am

I live in Victoria and in a seat with only a 3.4% swing needed to roll Labor. The Labor candidate is barely out of school pants. A nice enough young man and I had a reasonable conversation with him but he was naïve in the greater things of life and had little knowledge of business, power issues etc. The Lib candidate is mature with significant background in policy at a state level. She did say she wanted to get rid of the bug eaters which cheered me up but I couldn’t get her to admit that AGW was bullshit. On renewables she jumped straight to increasing usage of gas to stabilize wind. I suppose that goes in her favour.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 25, 2022 10:04 am

If things had played out a bit differently I might have contributed to the UK migrant crisis. Weekends in Europe had to be weighed up against those winters and “summers” you couldn’t get to France for a surf.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 25, 2022 10:06 am

Sturgeon is a grifter who has made a very comfortable living promising what she knows she can never deliver.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 25, 2022 10:08 am

Knuckles we’re in agreement for the main, just saying I don’t think there’s any honour in saying “my kid is queer and wussy and doesn’t come home for Thanksgiving, and I never liked they/them anyway”. If we don’t get real about the essential nuclear family, then the West is lost.

Roger
Roger
November 25, 2022 10:11 am

Weekends in Europe had to be weighed up against those winters and “summers” you couldn’t get to France for a surf.

The first twelve months are great; even winter is a new experience.

After that you start to think like a local, chasing the sun.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 25, 2022 10:15 am

Plus I’ve got no qualms about blaming the parents, because it reminds everyone of the failure. It makes no sense to say “that kid is FUBAR, and it’s the fault of BLM, or the LGBTIQAPP+ lobby, or fast food advertizing, or online porn”. Parents are the guardrails for all that revisionist madness.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 25, 2022 10:16 am

I hope Musk has a first class bodyguard or ten.
calli, have a look at the vids of interviews done with Tim Dodd (The Everyday Astronaut) at the SpaceX site in Boca Chica, Texas. Restricted access to the site but there are three security people within a few meters at all times. I’ll bet there is an outer layer also.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 25, 2022 10:17 am

flyingduk
Except for the little detail that the state has no money

A mere bagatelle.
The state simply prints/creates/quantitatively eases/sells bonds/passes the buck to our grandkids until there is enough.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 25, 2022 10:21 am

It takes a candidate for local member that really breaks through the humdrum to get elected on their own merit. Most people vote for the party, not the candidate.

Those people who voted for Fetterman (organic voters, not artificial reality ones) would not have been voting for the stammering oaf. They just wanted to make sure Democrats got into the house and senate in numbers. They are voting on the agenda.

Really voting for a candidate means voting for someone you think will make an impact on the state or national stage, or at least will really do something for the local community.

rosie
rosie
November 25, 2022 10:23 am

Did Ian Cook swap preferences with Libs?

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 25, 2022 10:23 am

Roger – the 3rd winter killed most of them off. A couple still there after marrying locals. The rest back in Oz. I got crook and spent 6 weeks in a Manchester hospital. The next ticket for me was one way.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 25, 2022 10:23 am

‘Nicola Sturgeon has been accused of resorting to the “Trump playbook” with “dangerous” language suggesting that Scots opposed to her independence referendum plans are not democrats.’

Maybe she means the Supreme Court.

Scots rage at Westminster ‘not even hiding contempt’ as they slam IndyRef2 ruling (24 Nov)

“Scottish residents have raged over the Supreme Court’s ruling that another independence referendum cannot be held without the backing of Westminster.”

Which they won’t get.

rosie
rosie
November 25, 2022 10:25 am

Parents are the guardrails for all that revisionist madness.

And sometimes, as everyone has free will, and children are not plasticine, despite parents best efforts, children believe in and do things a parent would rather they didn’t.

Zipster
November 25, 2022 10:26 am

Lab leak conspiracy theory

Dr. John Campbell

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 25, 2022 10:34 am

WHO is busy today.

WHO says measles poses imminent threat as vaccine rates dip (24 Nov)

WHO to rename monkeypox as ‘MPOX’ (23 Nov)

Not sure the second one is a good idea, since it naturally suggests a question: be you MPOX?

cohenite
November 25, 2022 10:37 am

The victoristan election is a marker. US elections are easy: demorats cheat, openly, obviously and republicans do fuck all about it. But if the hunchback wins, his seat and the liars get back in there will only be 2 reasons: cheating and electoral stupidity. Since cheating is harder in Australia than in the US the sheeple effect may prevail.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 25, 2022 10:39 am

Not to be confused with MmmBop
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NHozn0YXAeE
and get a haircut you kids.

Sylvester the cat
Sylvester the cat
November 25, 2022 10:43 am

Since cheating is harder in Australia than in the US …

I remain unconvinced.
The big cheats are done before the election is in sight.
e.g. electoral boundaries.

Cassie of Sydney
November 25, 2022 10:44 am

“cheating and electoral stupidity”

It’s the latter, and to the Victorians here, that IS NOT an indictment on you.

I hope I’m proven wrong tomorrow.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 25, 2022 10:50 am

Words Fail Department:

The state’s key business lobby group has slammed comments from Lord Mayor Sally Capp that Covid “was good” for Melbourne.

Ms Capp is set to give a speech on Friday in which she will argue the Melbourne CBD has emerged a “bolder, braver, better place” after Covid and some of the world’s longest lockdowns.

“There aren’t many who will stand in front of a crowd like this and say Covid has been good for anything or anyone,” Ms Capp is scheduled to say at the TedxMelbourne event.

“But I’m here to do just that.”

P
P
November 25, 2022 10:51 am

NT Law Threat: Bishop may close schools

New ‘anti-discrimination’ law may force Darwin bishop to close down his diocese’s entire Catholic school system
Bishop Charles Gauci of Darwin has said he will “seriously consider” closing the NT’s Catholic schools if the Territory’s Labor government presses ahead with proposed changes to anti-discrimination laws that would strip schools of the right to hire employees based on faith.

Bishop Gauci said he had spoken “very strongly” about the draft released some months ago, but has been “totally ignored”.

He also wrote to members of the NT parliament with his concerns and received only one response. He has since made public his 11 November letter to NT Attorney-General Chanston Paech expressing his “profound concerns”.

“The great deal of uncertainty that these proposed laws have already created will mean that much of their interpretation will be left to the Courts and at great expense to those who are caught up in them,” Bishop Gauci wrote in his letter.

more than half the students to come to our schools are not Catholic, but they value what we present and what we hold. So it’s a very major concern.”

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 25, 2022 10:53 am

News media is reporting heated scenes at early voting centres.
It’s a good sign I think.
TaliDan and his goons may not have been forgotten or forgiven despite the media’s collective amnesia.
There is also the possibility that junta headquarters have cooked up a plan whereby there operatives go out of their way to irritate voters and manufacture an incident.
The stinking pricks are quite capable of this.

Sylvester the cat
Sylvester the cat
November 25, 2022 10:56 am

Relax folks it is just CFMEU guided voting.

Mater
November 25, 2022 11:00 am

TaliDan and his goons may not have been forgotten or forgiven despite the media’s collective amnesia.

And Monty’s.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 25, 2022 11:05 am

Have a look at this Vic LC seat and it’s reps.
Andy Meddick FFS!
This is how the VEC carved up the country areas to to get a big slice of outer metro voters in the mix.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Victoria_Region

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 25, 2022 11:08 am

Lord Mayor Sally Capp
Truly, we are governed by clowns.

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