Open Thread – Weekend 26 Nov 2022


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dopey
dopey
November 26, 2022 11:56 am

Three leftist chaps at the cafe in Glebe this morning. Victorian election was mentioned. None were aware of the slug story. Experts on every other topic under the sun of course.

will
will
November 26, 2022 11:58 am

They will catch up;
May ’21- “China has announced that it will allow couples to have up to three children, after census data showed a steep decline in birth rates.”

and

“Every woman has almost gone through a forced abortion or forced sterilization,” Nanfu Wang, co-director and producer of the documentary, told PBS. “Sometimes the babies…they were born alive, and because of the policy and her job, she had to kill them after they were born alive, and she is really traumatized because of that.”

The only child chinese prices/princesses are unlikely to want to be inconvenienced by children

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 26, 2022 12:04 pm

Rock Doc

They still have huge numbers of fighting aged males compared to the west and more importantly if presented the will to expend them.

They would be the “Little Emperors”, the sole sons of sole sons in a culture strongly focussed on family? When they start dying in huge numbers in Korea or the waters around Taiwan, Xi had better have his escape aircraft ready early (unlike Lin Piao).

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 26, 2022 12:09 pm

I now live in a tiny country town where the locals look out for me. It is not the first time I have started over so the future is in my hands again. As you stated, the pleasure is doubled. Thanks Tinta.
By the way, the sun is shining for the third day in a row, what a glorious time to be alive. Off to mow.

God bless you Pogria, set free indeed, and we are given a new hour, a new day, a new year to start again, good thing that. God is great, rejoice. My dear Sunbather and I have been through some very difficult times.

He hasn’t set me free, basically because I told him to think really hard about anything like that or he’d be out the gate, in the middle of the street, in his oldest pair of undies with the loose elastic. Or maybe it wasn’t the threat but that he really wants to be with me as I really want to be with him. And mowing the lawn is a sure way of getting necessary vitamin D.

As for my day, I am off to see my oldest granddaughter (3) appear in her first ballet recital – I was sent a photo this morning of her with her hair up in the de rigueur ballet bun (never thought I’d see it given a few months ago she wouldn’t allow her hair to be even brushed let alone constrained.) DIL thought she’d want her hair in three pony tails and a mowhawk but I guess being with the in-crowd might just have swayed it.
Cheers

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 26, 2022 12:13 pm

Young surfery-looking dude in shades and clutching a couple of water bottles, no doubt hydrating after an evening of refreshment being interviewed in polling lines by tasty young reporterette:

Tasty Young Reporterette: Who are you going to vote for?
Surfery Looking Dude: I’m going to vote for Matthew Guy.

TYR: Why?
SLD: I just can’t get invested in Andrews. There’s a lot of deflecting, and he’s the one responsible.

TYR: Do you think people are still thinking about the pandemic?
SLD: I am.

Attaboy.

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 12:15 pm

in his oldest pair of undies with the loose elastic.

Good man. They’re the best sort. 😀

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 12:19 pm

ballet bun

Now you have me all nostalgic. Taming my daughter’s great sheaf of curly red hair into something resembling a doughnut and then it all springing out at me like a wild animal. The secret is those old fashioned hairnets. And hairspray…lots of hairspray. Good times. The best of times.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 26, 2022 12:21 pm

FTX & The Corruption Of America

What all the entrenched insiders in America’s parasitic, predatory elites and institutions don’t dare admit is that to protect themselves from consequence, we’ve had to sacrifice everything else.

Thanks to the FTX swindle, we now know the cost of a get out of jail free card in America: $40 million, paid to political elites. It seems even get out of jail free cards have suffered from inflation.

With hefty “donations” (heh) to elites, all wrong-doing is swept under a very capacious carpet. Jeffrey Epstein sprinkled a few million on the elites of Harvard, and he was ushered into this elite circle as an intimate pal. The fact that he was a rapacious predator of children was of no concern. A few million showered on the right people and causes makes evil and criminality disappear.

If a financier looter showers $40 million on “the right people,” mouths the “correct” phrases and issues empty promises to give away his looted billions, he becomes an instant golden boy of the right elites who have the power to protect him from consequences.

This is how America works now: in-your-face corruption is not just accepted, it’s glorified. Let’s score America’s wealth and power elites, regardless of party or political persuasion:

Integrity: zero.

Austerity: zero.

Restraint: zero.

Humility: zero.

Responsibility: zero.

Accountability: zero.

Sacrifice for the common good: zero.

Thrift: zero.

A society whose elites are so self-serving, corrupt, unaccountable and devoid of any sense of good and evil is doomed. Consider the bleatings of America’s power elite on the FTX swindle. Let’s have congressional hearings on this remarkable “financial event” that caught everyone by surprise, etc.

Translation: let’s stage some political theater to cloak the fact that the looters are being protected from consequences. We all know what happens if you’re caught selling a nickel bag on the street: you get a tenner in a hellhole prison.

But if you bribed the right people, you can swindle billions of dollars and walk free as an insincerely apologetic victim of your own success. Golly gee, I don’t understand what happened to all that money, even though I’m not exactly shy about declaring my own genius.

For reasons lost on the rest of us, investigations by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) and the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) always come up empty. Gee, the looting was complicated and we can’t figure out who might have broken the laws against fraud, collusion, embezzlement, malfeasance, etc., so we’re letting everyone off the hook.

dopey
dopey
November 26, 2022 12:29 pm

ABC on the ball as usual. Socceroos next match is a “must win.”

and
and
November 26, 2022 12:34 pm

TALES FROM THE VOTING BOOTH

Did the vote (Vic), albeit reluctantly. Stepped out of the car and onto the “battlefield”. I looked up and there was the first point of engagement – the HTV mob. Seriously, it was like carrying a pack of chips into a flock of seagulls. Flap Squawk HTV cards thrust at me from various directions Flap Flap Squawk One gull HTV person tried to engage me with “we socialists are fighting the far right”. “Thank you”, I said to all the card thrusters, “thank you, thank you, you’re very kind”. Phew! Got passed the political “gulls” and into the building. Thankfully, there was no queue, straight into the voting “chamber”. After supplying ID came the usual question – “have you voted before in this election?” I was going to say, “lady, there’s no fear of me voting more than once. The thing with me is getting me to vote even this one time”. But, alas, I just politely said “no”. On quickly surveying the voting slip (Labor, GangGreen, Libs, Socialists, Reason Party, etc), the overriding question in my mind was if it was possible to put all of the voting options last. No such luck grrr; had to rank them from least to best worst. Thanks.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 26, 2022 12:50 pm

Rear Window

Professor John Pollaers gives AGL lesson in chutzpah

Joe Aston Columnist

Christine Holman and Kerry Schott, candidates for the board who were nominated by Mike Cannon-Brookes’ Grok and were recommended against by the incumbent directors, were both elected with greater than 80 per cent of the votes cast.

Former Foster’s and Pacific Brands CEO John Pollaers was also elected, but with 38 per cent of votes cast against him.

It is ultimately a matter for AGL shareholders to populate their board with whomever they wish.

Nevertheless, it is thoroughly remarkable that Pollaers managed to scrape over the line after being caught making blatantly false statements about his qualifications.

Pollaers inveigled his way onto the AGL board ticket of Double Bay Jesus merely by self-identifying as a corporate turnaround specialist. Luckily for him, the cool kids at Grok think due diligence is for Boomers.

According to The Australian last month, “Professor Pollaers said he had carried out 16 major company transformations during his career, although not all were a success.”

Yes, Pollaers is even a professor, one without a PhD or any peer-reviewed research. Respectable universities used to just call them lecturers.

According to his own curriculum vitae, Pollaers spent 28 years of his adult life with two employers, alcohol giant Diageo and the Royal Australian Navy, which is not a company.

Diageo, Foster’s (where he worked for less than two years) and Pacific Brands (where he also worked for less than two years) are the only major companies he’s ever worked at. How does 16 go into three?

Better yet, Pollaers’ biography on The Conversation says that “John’s career has been marked by repeated turnaround performances in which he has successfully led nine business transformations, Pacific Brands’ being the most recent.”

Implicitly, Pollaers is therefore claiming to have completed seven corporate turnarounds between his 2014 removal by the board of Pac Brands until today, a period in which he has been an academic – in the vaguest sense of the word – and sat on a bunch of government taskforces and panels.

His turnaround record, as presented, is a farce.

We even asked Pollaers to explain how he got to 16, and he declined on multiple occasions to respond.

At the AGM last week, a shareholder named Agnes Chi asked the professor “can you please list each and every one of the 16 company transformations which you have been involved in, or you’ve performed?”

The answer was astounding. “Look, I’m not going to go through listing all 16. However, if you do go and look … you’ll see I lay out a very detailed resume. You’ll see that I have led and had senior roles in more than 16 companies around the world, including multiple divisions, and I believe my record stands for itself … I’m very happy to go through that list with you personally in the bar if that’s what you’d like to do afterwards…”

It remains unconfirmed whether Agnes went to the bar for her free snow job. For her sake, we hope not.

It requires extraordinary chutzpah, as a director of a public company on the floor of its AGM, to claim that your published resume says something it plainly does not. The man has no shame.

But shareholders have spoken, and maybe they have a sense of humour.

If they wanted to punish the AGL board, forcing them to endure the visionary lectures of Professor Pollaers at every meeting is really quite a brilliant way to do it.

Makka
Makka
November 26, 2022 12:54 pm
local oaf
November 26, 2022 12:57 pm

So we should build lots of coal and nuclear generators? And promise to stabilise our CO2 emissions by sometime after 2050? Isn’t that the Chinese model?

China curently has in the catergories of “announced, pre-permit, permitted and under construction”, some 547 coal fired units.

Schwab says Be like China. Gladly!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 26, 2022 1:14 pm

Eyrie:
November 26, 2022 at 10:49 am

I like the way this guy thinks:
https://barsoom.substack.com/p/just-look-up

That was a great read.

m0nty
November 26, 2022 1:24 pm

Good day for the good guys to win election.

rosie
rosie
November 26, 2022 1:31 pm

Good day for the good guys to win election.

The Good Guys didn’t nominate.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 26, 2022 1:31 pm

Tinta, at thirty, I had a son, a good life with my son’s father. Like you, a good age to be.

Now, like yourself my age is doubled, I was discarded and cut loose. After the obligatory tears and stuff, I realised I had been let free, not cut loose.

Yes, it’s devastating at first. Dumped at thirty-two, I eventually picked myself up with my two toddlers and made a career of sorts … and then I remarried and did it all again, heading into my forties. There were some unseen bumps in this road the second time around, alleviated by strong commitments, and sunlit uplands now. At 7am I stood looking through the purple jacaranda at my black and white currawongs dappled with this morning’s light, sun up and busily feeding their insistant fledgies, and was overcome with the feeling of all being right with the world.

Go away Damocles, with your wretched sword, you constant hider in the shadows.
You had no dominion over this lovely morning and all living in it.

m0nty
November 26, 2022 1:34 pm

Queensland Election, 2015:
LNP Government started Election Day with 78 of 89 Seats,
the ALP had 7 Seats.
By 6:25 pm that night, the Majority was gone, and Campbell Newman conceded defeat at 7:30pm.
Bottom line:
Andrews:
Gone.

Ah yes, the Murdoch press fawned all over Newman. Fat lot of good that did him. (Technically Labor started the day with 9 due to by-election wins.)

I don’t think there is anything like the mood of Queensland 2015 in this election. There has been a lot of noise from the crazies, but the polls have not narrowed nearly enough. Guy halved his 2PP deficit over the course of the campaign… from 20 points to 10.

Stranger things have happened, but not much stranger.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 26, 2022 1:35 pm

Twice forty equals eighty. A good age. Ten in advance of Hairy in our forty years together.

Our daughter is now forty. We discussed Christmas presents which we must buy this week to take up on Friday as we head up to Brisbane by road. Arriving Saturday, in time to babysit for Sat’dy nite.

johanna
johanna
November 26, 2022 1:38 pm

Maybe one for Ozman. I have previously complained about the sound engineers taking over when it comes to footsteps in 80s and 90s. Other people everywhere, but only one set is heard. Loudly. Often out of sync.

The other day I was watching a British crime drama, and the footsteps were like pistol shots. Trouble was, the walker was wearing runners.

One of those things that cannot be erased, once noticed. 🙁

rosie
rosie
November 26, 2022 1:45 pm
Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
November 26, 2022 1:57 pm

Via Zipster and duncanm from Ye Old Fred,

San Francisco police seek permission for its robots to use deadly force

This place and timeline is wrong.
We aren’t supposed to be deploying ED-209 or resurrecting Alex Murphy until 2043 in Detroit.

Bob Sewell
November 26, 2022 1:59 pm

Will:

The only child chinese prices/princesses are unlikely to want to be inconvenienced by children

We see a lot of the Princesses on our media.
Less obvious are the women in the country/villages.
I think they will provide an unwelcome surprise to the demographers, having grown up in a more traditional setting.

johanna
johanna
November 26, 2022 2:04 pm

The early bird catches the oxalis

The great Ross Campbell called the family home Oxalis Cottage.

The holiday destination was called Sunburn Beach.

We will not see his like again.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 26, 2022 2:11 pm

says:
November 26, 2022 at 6:24 am

For DrBeau

Thank you Calli. You are a smartypants. 😉

I hope you are intending to leave your collection of memes to the Australian people. The Australian people need them.

Sylvester the cat
Sylvester the cat
November 26, 2022 2:14 pm

More tales from the voting booth.
Very safe ALP. A very ALP booth, with one youngun ticking off the names.
I wondered why everybody was staring at me while waiting in the queue, so I asked the couple behind me what the interest could be. They pointed to my handful of HTV cards. I looked up and down the queue, only ALP brochures to be seen.

Sylvester the cat
Sylvester the cat
November 26, 2022 2:16 pm

Then again, it could have been my black and white tail that sparked the interest.

Bob Sewell
November 26, 2022 2:17 pm

makka:

I realise all that Bob. But that’s not my point.

Yeah. Sorry. I saw the video and the ramifications distracted me.

If China were to tomorrow turn into a free enterprise nation with no government corruption, the West would be in dire straits. But the Communist Party can no more let go of the reins of power than it could put a colony on Mars tomorrow. It is literally riding the proverbial tiger and its leaders who have treated their people in a most abominable fashion are aware of this.
A China unfettered by dogmatic Marxist/Fascist thinking would crush our Western economies.
China has the ability to crash the entire world economy if it so wishes.
It is going to be a very unstable 10 -15 years ahead of us.

Bob Sewell
November 26, 2022 2:24 pm

Makka:

IMO the problem is the US. It’s future is very finely balanced between ongoing leadership or decline. The next couple of Administrations I think will show how that future will unfold so those elections become crucial. Currently I see a US entering decline unless arrested. For the reasons I mentioned above.

Hit the big button too soon – Yes – the US is in real strife. The money China has spent corrupting the administration of that nation has been well spent. Look at how well it has wrecked the US economy with the Biden administration and the connivance of the media.
Chickens voting for Sunday lunch – the media and the administrators think they will be safe but history shows us the first stage of any Communist takeover is the Purge of the Party faithful. These idiots will be the first against the wall because they’ve already shown they are capable of revolutionary activities. They will never be trusted, no matter how many Marxist slogans they spout.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 26, 2022 2:28 pm

these are not policies that Anthony Albanese promised

As I read (here I think) before the federal election:
An incoming Albanese government will be like prison sex. You know it’s going to be bad, you just don’t know how bad.

Sylvester the cat
Sylvester the cat
November 26, 2022 2:32 pm

you just don’t know how bad.

Sharing bunks with a guy named Bubba is not a good start.

cohenite
November 26, 2022 2:33 pm

Boambee Johnsays:
November 26, 2022 at 11:46 am
“I think we should be very careful in imposing systems. But the Chinese model is certainly a very attractive model for quite a number of countries,” Schwab said.

So we should build lots of coal and nuclear generators? And promise to stabilise our CO2 emissions by sometime after 2050? Isn’t that the Chinese model?

Yeah. One wouldn’t mind if our self-appointed betters and leaders -WEF, king tampon, biden and the rest of the grubs, the bill gates of the world etc -were not so dumb; not just a little slow but blindingly dumb. Schwab’s incredible hypocrisy is only matched by the lack of self-insight in not realising that tyrants like Xi use fools like him and put a bullet into their empty heads when their usefulness ends.

But then, as the victoristan election will show, the poor sheeple are even dumber.

cohenite
November 26, 2022 2:45 pm

As I read (here I think) before the federal election:
An incoming Albanese government will be like prison sex. You know it’s going to be bad, you just don’t know how bad.

Yep; and we don’t have one of these to protect us:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k5iu98W-WE

Pogria
Pogria
November 26, 2022 2:58 pm

Hey Tinta, happy to hear yours ended well. Loose elastic, snort!

I am looking forward to grandchildren so much. Nothing yet, however I have watched my friends children through pregnancy, birth and the rest. My three surrogate babies. This is the first year I have not made their birthday cakes as I live a little too far away. Sob.

As I was mowing, a neighbouring farmer dropped by for a chat. He had his working dogs with him. It has been one of those glorious sunshiney days where everything seems right with the world. The Victorian election seems so far away. Whichever way the votes fall, the Victorian people will lose in the long run unless one of their pollies decides to let his nads drop, rip his shirt open and yell “I’m Mad as Hell! and I’m not going to Take it Anymore!”. I can dream.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
November 26, 2022 3:00 pm

Mulgrave The Frontline: This is a mood for change here. Libs have had a steady stream of voters and Ian Cook was doing well. Still rusted on Labor numpties coming thru. No longer a safe seat for Dan. He might be sweating for a while.

Hugh
Hugh
November 26, 2022 3:24 pm
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

TYR: Do you think people are still thinking about the pandemic?

This question/comment could come only from someone who didn’t lose anything.

The question was a measure of how narrow are her circles of professional, social & family contacts.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 26, 2022 3:30 pm

San Francisco police seek permission for its robots to use deadly force

Officer Safety can’t be an excuse for Murder here, so it looks like S.F. expects plenty of sieges in it’s future.

Bluey
Bluey
November 26, 2022 3:33 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
November 26, 2022 at 3:25 pm
TYR: Do you think people are still thinking about the pandemic?

This question/comment could come only from someone who didn’t lose anything.

The question was a measure of how narrow are her circles of professional, social & family contacts.

Bang on. As far as I can tell the restrictions were quite good for the professional white collar class, work from home etc. etc. but blue collar and working class got screwed hard. Still had to go to work, wear masks at work, etc.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 26, 2022 3:33 pm

VIDEO: Angry Trans Twitter Censor Speaks Out After She Is Fired from Her Job

By Jim Hoft

Angry trans Melissa Ingle was fired from Twitter earlier this month. Her job at Twitter was to “check” content. She was a censor at Twitter.

Melissa says over time the site will become more abusice, more extreme, and less reliable without crackpot censors like her quashing free speech.

Ingle was a contract employee and now she is speaking out.

It will break her heart that conservatives may have a voice on the platform once again.

From the Comments

– Melissa Ingle, please return an urgent call from your surgeon.

Dr. Kutchyadickoff is ready to schedule you.

– Fugly is too mild a term for this mentally deranged fruit bat.

– More Abusive, more Extreme, and less Reliable? Dear stupid ugly guy in makeup…No that is what Elon is there to FIX! Btw dear, if you are going to play at being a female…none of us would ever go on TV with our hair looking like that! Get some effing conditioner and a effing hair brush!

I just love watching the twits cry and gnash their ugly teeth over losing their favorite tool for abusing conservatives…It makes me smile each time I hear it!

– Let’s stop calling these mentally ill people “trans”. There is NO transitioning. It’s biologically impossible (no matter how many parts you chop off) . Pretending to be the opposite sex doesn’t make it so either. The dude is a dude. I refuse to play this stupid game.

– He’s no Dr. Frank N Furter .

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 26, 2022 3:39 pm

We will not see his like again.

Ross Cambell’s daughter Little Nell went on to hit it big in Noo York after her enchanted childhood.

Current Australian ‘real life’ columnists are a poor imitation – we have Nikki Gemmell and her hubbie and a few others of little note. This year Don Aitkin died, a previous VC at Canberra University, whose one time reflections political and otherwise on life with his Great Aunt as a reference point were a good read. Noone as good here now.

These days I am bound to British life in my columnist enjoyments. I always turn weekly to the ‘Real Life’ columns in The Spectator as the first thing to read. When we returned recently we had six week’s worth of Speccies to delve into. We are just about coming up for air now, to await the new one on Monday. Hairy has followed the Speccie online but I simply wait for the pleasure of some printed reading to take in on the terrace.

Jeremy Clarke’s ‘Low Life’ is some the best column writing ever as he muses with literary style on everyday happenings in the face of his impending death: honest, severe, poignant, hopeful. Taki on ‘High Life’ is always good on past urber-rich boys and their toys and women, and Melissa Clark is after my own heart in her infuriated battles with bureaucracy. They all strike a memorable and politically sympathetic note.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 26, 2022 3:41 pm

that’s uber-rich. Not urber.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 26, 2022 3:42 pm

Just looking at the retiring Labor MPs at the Election.
12 hold safe or very safe Labor Seats and there’s this guy:
Dustin Halse
Australian Labor Party

Dustin Halse (Australian Labor Party)
Ringwood

Halse was not well known until an opposition member accused him of having sex in his parliamentary office. The matter was thought inappropriate rather than involving a criminal matter. Halse later announced he would not contest the 2022 election.

Anyone able to decipher this?
Are we talking BumSex here?
Dot?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 26, 2022 3:42 pm

A quiet, orderly procession of voters elect to return the incumbent government.

Or not (the Hun):

Dramatic footage has emerged of two voters punching each other at a polling station in Melbourne on Saturday morning.

Terrified onlookers filmed the incident, which shows two men wrestle to the ground at a school believed to be in Niddrie. The pair is understood to have clashed after one man was vocal about his hatred for Premier Daniel Andrews.

The video shows a woman screaming as she attempts to break up the fight.

No mention was made of the woman’s potential trans status.

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 3:42 pm

The great Ross Campbell

And Alan Searle. A lush and brilliant Clivea miniata from his Beecroft garden has followed me from house to house for forty years. It was one of those chance seedlings that grew into an enormous clump. My brother was gardening there and obtained some divisions.

I am no garden guru, but my plants have brushed with them! 😀

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
November 26, 2022 3:44 pm

Hopefully denizens of Viktoriastan saw this two days ago.
https://www.rebelnews.com/election_fixing_threatens_to_keep_dan_andrews_in_power

The “Sack Dan Andrews Party” was registered in a sneaky bid to harvest votes and preference them to Labor through a deceptive practice that has enraged his competition, who are calling it out.
A secretly-recorded Zoom call by Angry Victorians Party leader Heston Russell has exposed the questionable, but astonishingly not illegal, practices by former Hinch Chief-of-Staff and so-called ‘election fixer’ Glenn Druery.

I’m giving the old cliché a re-run.
Reality is making satire obsolete.

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 3:45 pm

Oh, sorry. I was thinking of Colin Campbell. How stupid of me.

Ross Campbell was an interesting person of quite another colour. I enjoyed his writing very much indeed.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 26, 2022 3:47 pm

And of course it’s Melissa Kite, not Clarke.

Adrian Harley, writing from Kenya as an embedded old colonial, is so good in his occasional column ‘Wild Life’ that he has Hairy dreaming of moving us to live there. I don’t read the racing observations in ‘The Turf’ column which appears irregularly under the byline of Robin Oakley, though probably the punters do.

All of it, vicarious stuff, allowing entry into the lives and worlds of others.

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 3:47 pm

I blame the Rooster Booster that is now liberally tossed over the newly renovated box hedge and also my person. It will do wonders for the hedge but I’m pretty sure nothing at all for my aching back.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 26, 2022 3:48 pm

Forgot to mention our own Tim Blair, whose personal observations in his Sweetness and Light column at the back of Quadrant each month are also a first read and worth waiting for.

Winston Smith
November 26, 2022 3:48 pm

Are there any countings done yet?
Just curious.

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 3:49 pm

No countings and even fewer learnings, Winston.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 26, 2022 3:56 pm

A secretly-recorded Zoom call by Angry Victorians Party leader Heston Russell has exposed the questionable, but astonishingly not illegal, practices by former Hinch Chief-of-Staff and so-called ‘election fixer’ Glenn Druery.

Where’s the funding for this rort, plus the Hinch Party, plus PHON and UAPalmer originating?
It wouldn’t be Spooks, by any chance?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 26, 2022 3:59 pm

Shire of Perenjori’s acknowledgement of country includes praise of European ‘pioneers’
Jake DietschThe West Australian
Sat, 26 November 2022 2:00AM

The new CEO of a regional council says he will look at changing the shire’s acknowledgement of country that includes a line apparently praising European colonisers.

The Shire of Perenjori — about two hours south east of Geraldton — has, at least since 2019, read out an acknowledgement at the start of each council meeting, including annual electors meetings, that acknowledges the local Badymia or Badimia people as well as those who “settled this country”.

The statement begins by acknowledging “the traditional owners of the land upon which the Shire of Perenjori is situated and to demonstrate respect for the original custodians.”

“I respectfully acknowledge the past and present custodians of the land on which we are meeting, the Badymia people,” it goes on to read.

“I also acknowledge the pioneers who settled this country, developed the land and turned it into the productive country that we know today, allowing us to enjoy the lifestyle to which we have become accustomed.”

The statement was most recently read out by the shire president last week, followed by an opening prayer.

Shire CEO Paul Anderson said he had only been at the shire for 10 months and said he would ask councillors if they would amend the acknowledgement or remove the last line referring to “pioneers”.

The Shire’s Welcome to Country policy was adopted in 2015, but the policy makes no mention of pioneers, settlers or farmers.

Mr Anderson said a member of the Badimia people had contacted the shire with concerns recently.

“It’s good that it’s been pointed out, and we’ll get it corrected,” he said.

“If council still wants to acknowledge pioneers, then it can do so elsewhere in the minutes.

“It’s one of those things that has been done over the years. We’ll take action to resolve it. We don’t want to cause offence.”

Mr Anderson said the policy would also be amended to clarify it related to Acknowledgement of Country rather than a Welcome to Country.

Heritage Link consultant Patricia Edwards the statement in its current form “disrespects” the Badimia people.

“You can’t pay respects and then imply they have achieved nothing,” Ms Edwards said.

“It is disappointing to see that and it discredits the Badimia people by saying you respect them and then pairing that with something that brings them down.”

Aboriginal Affairs Minister Tony Buti said Acknowledgment of and Welcome to Countries were a sign of respect and a cultural protocol dating back thousands of years.

“They are not intended to detract from the achievements of anyone else, so it’s unusual the Shire has conflated these matters in its acknowledgement,” Mr Buti said.

“I would urge the Shire to amend its acknowledgement and engage with the local Badymia people going forward.”

A Reconciliation WA spokesperson said an “Acknowledgement of Country should stand alone and be delivered with genuine respect.”

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
November 26, 2022 4:03 pm

Starting the CountDan.

T minus 21600
21599
21598
21597…

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 26, 2022 4:03 pm

Ed Casesays:
November 26, 2022 at 3:56 pm
A secretly-recorded Zoom call by Angry Victorians Party leader Heston Russell has exposed the questionable, but astonishingly not illegal, practices by former Hinch Chief-of-Staff and so-called ‘election fixer’ Glenn Druery.

Where’s the funding for this rort, plus the Hinch Party, plus PHON and UAPalmer originating?
It wouldn’t be Spooks, by any chance?

From whence cometh this obsession with “spooks”?

Show us on the dollie where nasty Mr Bond touched you, Dick.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
November 26, 2022 4:04 pm

Ed mused:

It wouldn’t be Spooks, by any chance?

Well it’s not obvious.

Anchor What
Anchor What
November 26, 2022 4:07 pm

Whichever way the votes fall, the Victorian people will lose in the long run unless one of their pollies decides to let his nads drop, rip his shirt open and yell “I’m Mad as Hell! and I’m not going to Take it Anymore!”. I can dream.
You’ve still got it, Pogs!
If you send via DB your email, you and I can reminisce about something (strictly verbal) from the past!

Anchor What
Anchor What
November 26, 2022 4:10 pm

I blame the Rooster Booster that is now liberally tossed over the newly renovated box hedge
I have about 100 English Box Hedge plants that are still behaving like bonsai.
This is their last chance to grow to a decent size, so perhaps some booster?

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 26, 2022 4:11 pm

Aboriginal Affairs Minister Tony Buti said Acknowledgment of and Welcome to Countries were a sign of respect and a cultural protocol dating back thousands of years.

Sounds reasonable.

“They are not intended to detract from the achievements of anyone else, so it’s unusual the Shire has conflated these matters in its acknowledgement,” Mr Buti said.

Yep.

“I would urge the Shire to amend its acknowledgement and engage with the local Badymia people going forward.”
In other words, wake up to yourselves.

A Reconciliation WA spokesperson said an “Acknowledgement of Country should stand alone and be delivered with genuine respect.”

A reasonable expectation.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 26, 2022 4:27 pm

Nice overcast day with showers everywhere, still made 30 deg though now sitting at 28.6. Tad early but the beer fridge has just been cracked. Nice damp humid arvo to be on the porch…

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 26, 2022 4:38 pm

What’s the beer, Rockdoctor?

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 26, 2022 4:43 pm

LOL don’t ask Mother Lode. I’m not really into anything fancy, more the generic type with a yellow and red motif.

Gilas
Gilas
November 26, 2022 4:52 pm

Read hundreds of comments, hoping for a miracle in Vixistan today..
Here’s the all-too-obvious truth bomb, to spoil the party:

sheeples will always do what sheeples do.

There will be no happy ending for normal, independent voters.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 26, 2022 4:52 pm

The key to making your way through the HTV hoardes is to take one of each with a polite “thank you”, vote how you were going to ensure no major party gets any AEC funding and bin the lot on the way out. Job done.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 26, 2022 4:53 pm

In my experience, when the weather is right and the thirst is there, even some no-name swill from Aldi will taste like the heavenly nectar.

I did some work in Brisbane several years ago. In summer. (I am seriously not a summer person.) Anyway, after a long day and walking around trying to find a restaurant – somewhere better than a pub. Eventually I gave up on finding a restaurant because I was just too hot and too thirsty. It was the pub.

Even now I can remember how divine that first XXXX Gold tasted.

Bluey
Bluey
November 26, 2022 4:54 pm

Dan’s mouthpiece on twitter prguy is now claiming threats and violence toward ALP members and voters in Mulgrave.

I can believe people ripping into Labor over the abuses of the last couple of years, but it’s a bit convenient he’s unable to show proof in the age of mobile phones and CCTV.

Makka
Makka
November 26, 2022 4:55 pm

Fair Shakesays:
November 26, 2022 at 3:00 pm

Yes agreed. Cook was getting a lot of attention on my brief visit. By far the the biggest HTV team. In and out. Very friendly bunch too.

MatrixTransform
November 26, 2022 5:00 pm

I tell them all the same thing, “I’m all good on how to vote mate, but thanks anyway”

and there’s always a black pen tucked behind my right ear

last time some kiddie at the door asked if I wanted pencil.
I said, “no thanks, I have pen for this job”
she said, “you don’t need a pen”
I said, ” I do … just in case”

for some reason, she didn’t seem all that happy about it

she may have also got the message that I really don’t give a fuck what she thinks
probably my body-language

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 26, 2022 5:02 pm

Please let it be so.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 26, 2022 5:03 pm

Slug sales will be through the roof.

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 5:04 pm

Anchor, I use a combination of cow manure (side dressing), pelletised chook poo (Rooster Booster or Dynamic) and a liquid feed of Thrive (instant chemical hit of N and P).

I also put in some Amgrow soil wetting pellets just in case all the organic stuff repels the water. After a good watering and the soil is deeply wet to my satisfaction, I will mulch the lot with sugar cane tomorrow and wet that down as well.

The hedge is Buxus microphylla var. microphylla, which is the Dwarf Japanese Box. It does much better in warmer climates, particularly coastal. It’s big brother Buxus microphylla var. japonicum does even better but grows quite large. English Box, Buxus sempervirens, is much better in cooler climates.

They are all hungry buggers if you want them to look Paul Bangay beautiful. 😀

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 26, 2022 5:05 pm

Is Ian Cook directing preferences to Andrews before the Liberal person?

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 5:07 pm

Sorry, that was over long. Dover needs a garden doctor thread…or maybe not. It is one of the Arts of Peace, after all.

Zipster
November 26, 2022 5:08 pm

A Reconciliation WA spokesperson said an “Acknowledgement of Country should stand alone and be delivered with genuine respect.”

while we are on the subject, how about an acknowledgment to england for bringing civilisation to this country?

rosie
rosie
November 26, 2022 5:17 pm

No counting til the polls close, isn’t that, like, a rule?

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 26, 2022 5:18 pm

How about a recognition that Aborigines donated the Land, plus significant DNA to Australia.
It’s never too late.

Zipster
November 26, 2022 5:23 pm

How about a recognition that Aborigines donated the Land, plus significant DNA to Australia.
It’s never too late.

you cant donate something you dont own.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 26, 2022 5:28 pm

you cant donate something you dont own.

Can you claim “sovereignty” over something you profess not to own?

pete of perth
pete of perth
November 26, 2022 5:30 pm

31 minutes till glorious leader declares victory

Rabz
November 26, 2022 5:35 pm

It takes great courage to return as the leader after such a prior walloping. I give him credit in holding the ship together given the barrage of criticism and the media locking him out. He has remained calm and resolute

Mems – there is so much wrong with the above comment, I barely know where to start.

The groundhog guy should not have been resurrected. Proven failures of that magnitude do not deserve a second chance. It’s made as much sense as the WA gliberals resurrecting Yak Cockup and will be about as successful.

Apart from that, two words: Renee Heath.

GG’s treatment of that aesthetically pleasing young woman is appalling. The man is a joke and an extremely unfunny one at that.

Poor ol’ Dim Smith. But for an unfortunately placed suburban fence, he’d have been the gliberal “leader” blundering into this evening’s farce.

There are few creatures on this planet I hold in more contempt than gliberal politicians, especially Victorian ones.

Bob Sewell
November 26, 2022 5:41 pm

Matrix Transform:

last time some kiddie at the door asked if I wanted pencil.
I said, “no thanks, I have pen for this job”
she said, “you don’t need a pen”
I said, ” I do … just in case”

for some reason, she didn’t seem all that happy about it

“Australian elections are the safest and most secure in the world, and the VEC is above reproach.”

Rabz
November 26, 2022 5:42 pm

Yak Cockup
Stevie Marshmallow
Groundhog Guy
Beryl Gladyschlocklian
Dumb Parrothead
Deb Freckleface

Inspiring figures, they are not.

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 5:43 pm

Who do you hold in high esteem, Rabz? Or even mediocre esteem? How about a pinch of esteem?

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 26, 2022 5:43 pm

Ed Casesays:
November 26, 2022 at 5:18 pm
How about a recognition that Aborigines donated the Land,

Have you heard of Native Title? Reparations? $33 billion pa on top of rights equal to other Australians?

Are you a Proud Richard Cranium man?

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 26, 2022 5:44 pm

Always was, always will be? Never ceded?

And so many more non-reconciliatory phrases?

Bob Sewell
November 26, 2022 5:44 pm

rosie:

No counting til the polls close, isn’t that, like, a rule?

Yes.
That wasn’t the purpose of the post, but.

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 5:46 pm

Okay, I’ll go the full agent 86…how about a micron of esteem?

Bluey
Bluey
November 26, 2022 5:47 pm

callisays:
November 26, 2022 at 5:43 pm
Who do you hold in high esteem, Rabz? Or even mediocre esteem? How about a pinch of esteem?

Obviously not Rabz, but I can’t think of too many, none of whom are in the liberal party.

Rabz
November 26, 2022 5:47 pm

Dan’s mouthpiece on twatter prguy is now claiming threats and violence toward ALP members and voters in Mongrave

Gee, how very timely.

BTW, was prguy ever unmasked? I know Avi was going after him/her/xi/it big time. Some convenient anonymity orders may have been decreed as well.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 26, 2022 5:50 pm

Wow just went inside to check Vic election coverage. That Lisa Neville talking over everyone? 5 min was enough. She’ll wreck the coverage tonight.

Teaming down now. 🙂

Lifes good.

Bluey
Bluey
November 26, 2022 5:50 pm

Rabzsays:
November 26, 2022 at 5:47 pm
Dan’s mouthpiece on twatter prguy is now claiming threats and violence toward ALP members and voters in Mongrave

Gee, how very timely.

BTW, was prguy ever unmasked? I know Avi was going after him/her/xi/it big time. Some convenient anonymity orders may have been decreed as well.

Supposedly unmasked himself when Avi was close to the reveal. Claims to be independent of the ALP.

I am deeply cynical.

miltonf
miltonf
November 26, 2022 5:51 pm

The deeply unimpressive Lisa Neville married to some other ALP parasite. The Geelong Grammar one?

Rabz
November 26, 2022 5:57 pm

calli – does it matter?

How many times in your life do you need to be let down or proven correct about the moral bankruptcy of so called leaders, before succumbing to the temptation of unrelenting cynicism?

This is the tragedy of public life in Australia (and across the western world) in this day and age.

If we had any courage or dignity, monsters like this would have been laughed out of existence years ago.

Yet here we are, on a rollercoaster ride back to the dark ages.

miltonf
miltonf
November 26, 2022 5:58 pm

He really is an evil old c*nt like cranky frankie.

cohenite
November 26, 2022 5:59 pm

The only issue in victoristan is how well Ian Cook goes. But when he loses I reckon he’ll have to leave the state within a few months. The report on Sky showed that hollowed out little marmoset who leads(sic) the lnp boasting they are confident of holding the seats they already hold. Photo of Matthew Guy in his natural habitat.

So, in fairness to the sheeple their choice is between a large mongrel bat eared dog, a marmoset or a bunch of green/teal budgies.

cohenite
November 26, 2022 6:03 pm

How about a recognition that Aborigines donated the Land, plus significant DNA to Australia.
It’s never too late.

Crotchless starts piss taking early on this momentous election day.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 26, 2022 6:08 pm

Who do you hold in high esteem, Rabz? Or even mediocre esteem? How about a pinch of esteem?
Your talkin’ Rabz, you’re talkin’ Self Esteem.
Up the Wazoo.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 26, 2022 6:09 pm

I’m strangely hopeful that there was a big group of people who got to the booth and said “fuck him”

Mater
November 26, 2022 6:13 pm

I’m strangely hopeful that there was a big group of people who got to the booth and said “fuck him”

Me too.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 26, 2022 6:14 pm

That’s what those stairs said.
Cop this Young Harry!
Whack!

Zipster
November 26, 2022 6:18 pm

plus significant DNA to Australia.

is there something you want to share with us?

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
November 26, 2022 6:19 pm

I hope for your sakes that it’s all over by 10pm.
So here’s a countdown for you.
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/vote?iso=20221126T22&p0=152&msg=Is+Dictator+Dan+Out+Yet%3F&font=cursive

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 26, 2022 6:23 pm

calli – have you ever used that top buxus fertiliser? The Japanese one still gets a bit beaten up by the Perf sun but so does practically everything else.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 26, 2022 6:26 pm

A bloke this week told me his mate is a senior cop in the city and has sighted the Stairman Dan report.
He shared no details but said there’s a lot more to it and it’s being actively suppressed by senior command.

MatrixTransform
November 26, 2022 6:28 pm

my business partner votes in Mulgrave and I quizzed him a few weeks ago over coffee.

he wasnt even sure of his electorate
never heard of Ian Cooke or the slug-gate bonfire
had no idea who LDP or David Limbrick were
doesnt know how the upper house regions work and how senators get there
had no clue that all of us in the company essentially vote for senators in the same region
doesnt get that preferences are decided on the white paper by numbering all the boxes
doesnt ‘get’ preferences generally

the blokes an Elec Eng ffs!

on a +ve note, we all caught up last week over beers

and he was appalled by the probable corruption
he confirmed his vote wont be for Labor
even listened to the odd speech by Limbrick

there’s hope.

still his missus, or as I call her, The Minister for Health
reckons the sun shines from Andrews’ arse
I remember a while back when she stood on her back deck and explained, “Good man Dan, shoot the protesters … shoot em all.”

we’ll see.

Frank
Frank
November 26, 2022 6:29 pm

plus significant DNA to Australia.

is there something you want to share with us?

With all the talk of prison sex upthread one can’t help but wonder.

Hugh
Hugh
November 26, 2022 6:29 pm

Sadly, I think Rabz is correct. Hoping to be proved wrong.

cohenite
November 26, 2022 6:31 pm

This fucking lisa neville: a typical leftie sheila: ugly, aggressive and irredeemably stupid.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 26, 2022 6:35 pm

cohenite, yes they do have a “type”. So do the Lieborals viz Michaela Cash and Bronnie. Funny story, my mate was engaged to Cash decades ago. Dodged a bullet there.

Not Uh oh
Not Uh oh
November 26, 2022 6:38 pm

Can’t wait for Dan’s acceptance speech, especially the bit where he says how humble he’s feeling.

Goanna
Goanna
November 26, 2022 6:41 pm

Dr Mark Hobart is DLP candidate for the seat of St Albans.
He’s had his medical licence cancelled and to my mind he’s a conscientious objector to the Andrews fascist state. It’s possible he could be on the receiving end of Liberal preferences.

Bernie Finn is a Liberal reject and running out in the west too for the DLP but in the upper house.

Good luck to both men as well as Adam Somyurek out in northern Melb.

Somyurek has defected from Labor to the DLP, plays politics hard and has been a thorn in Andrews side.

Bruce
Bruce
November 26, 2022 6:44 pm

“Give me liberty or give me death!” (Yes, I am aware of the “provenance”).

Rhetoric?.

Ones “liberty” is NOBODY else’s to give or take.

A more thoughtful person would have declared:

“Threaten my liberty and DIE”. Not up to it?

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty.” – Benjamin Franklin.

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” – Samuel Adams

“False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils, except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm those only who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Can it be supposed that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity, the most important of the code, will respect the less important and arbitrary ones, which can be violated with ease and impunity, and which, if strictly obeyed, would put an end to personal liberty—so dear to men, so dear to the enlightened legislator—and subject innocent persons to all the vexations that the guilty alone ought to suffer? Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” – Cesare Beccaria, Italian political philosopher, 1738 to 1794.

cohenite
November 26, 2022 6:45 pm

Funny story, my mate was engaged to Cash decades ago. Dodged a bullet there.

Photo of Cash on her wedding day.

Conservative women need strong conservative men otherwise they go off on tangents. There hasn’t been a strong conservative pollie in this shit-hole for decades.

Crossie
Crossie
November 26, 2022 6:46 pm

The hedge is Buxus microphylla var. microphylla, which is the Dwarf Japanese Box.

Calli, I have always had these dwarf hedges as I didn’t need a tall border. About ten years ago they started dying off so I quickly took a lot of cuttings and used them to strike a new crop. The new hedge is as good as the old one and I hope it lasts for many more years.

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 6:46 pm

Rabz, I’m always hopeful. And sometimes disappointed. Life is like that.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 26, 2022 6:48 pm

Quarter of NT Police recruits have military background and are more likely to use weapons, Kumanjayi Walker inquest told

Jason Walls
2 min read
November 26, 2022 – 6:30AM

More than a quarter of NT Police officers recruited between 2010 and 2020 were ex-military and more likely to deploy capsicum spray, tasers and guns in the course of their duties, a court has heard.

Territory Coroner Elisabeth Armitage is presiding over a long running inquest into the death of Kumanjayi Walker after Constable Zach Rolfe was acquitted on all charges over his 2019 police shooting death in March.

On Friday, former NT Police commander, David Proctor, who worked on the Coronial brief before his retirement, took the stand in the Alice Springs Local Court in the penultimate week of hearings for this year.

Under questioning by Parumpurru Committee of Yuendumu barrister, Conor O’Bryan, Mr Proctor said he had “observed an increase in the militarisation” of the force during his 34 years on the job.

He said the Immediate Response Team unit that Constable Rolfe — himself a former soldier — had deployed to Yuendumu with on the night he shot Mr Walker had “adopted a paramilitary role focusing on weapons training and tactics”.

Mr Proctor said a “trend analysis” he undertook as part of the Coronial investigation showed 26 per cent of recruits had backgrounds in the Australian Defence Force, but that NT Police had no training “focused on the reprogramming or retraining of ex-ADF members”.

“Would you accept that with an increased militarisation of the Northern Territory Police force comes an increased risk of police officers operating with a paramilitary mindset?” Mr O’Bryan asked.

“Yes, I think that’s fair.”

Mr O’Bryan cited an incident in February 2019 in which the IRT was deployed to reports of stolen vehicles, firearms and ammunition, in the context of the “Peelian” principles of policing by consent and using minimum force.

Mr Proctor said the response, which included Constable Rolfe being sent out in a helicopter armed with an AR-15 assault rifle, was not “an ordinary policing operation”.

“Obviously you had nothing to do with this incident, but you do have 34 years’ experience in the Northern Territory,” Mr O’Bryan said.

“Would you be able to assist us in what the plan might have been, to deploy Constable Rolfe with a semiautomatic assault rifle in a helicopter?

“No, I can’t, I wasn’t involved in that,” Mr Proctor replied.

“Would you agree that we’ve moved a long way away from the Peelian principles in this situation?” Mr O’Bryan asked.

“Yes,” Mr Proctor said.

Mr O’Bryan also read from an expert report tendered at the inquest which found that former soldiers could experience “hypervigilance” and “over-reactivity” following “blue on green” ambushes, in which nominally allied soldiers launched surprise attacks on Australians.

“Constable Rolfe’s preoccupation and concern about a blue on green attack may have been an underlying driver of his reactivity and could have had the propensity to trigger his training responses learned in the military context, rather than those learned in the policing context,” he read.

In response, Mr Proctor said all officers should be proactively monitored “to identify any concerning trends in their use of force” but agreed that “there might be even a higher risk among ex-ADF members”.

The inquest continues on Monday

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 26, 2022 6:49 pm

Buxus strike pretty well but are pretty slow growers. I’ve only ever bought one but have around 30 around the place. Great plant.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 26, 2022 6:49 pm

A bloke this week told me his mate is a senior cop in the city and has sighted the Stairman Dan report.
He shared no details but said there’s a lot more to it and it’s being actively suppressed by senior command.

This would be unsurprising, if correct, which it in all likelihood is.

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 6:53 pm

They sometimes get dieback, Crossie. The little one I have has been a bit neglected and allowed to get way to tall, with a lot of dead wood. I have been brutal with the trimming. One thing, they do re-sprout from old wood, so there’s hope.

One of the most ruthless hedge renovations I have ever seen was at Milton Park, Bowral. The head gardener there took all the great rhododendrons back to the bare trunks. It looked like a bomb site. And then nature worked her magic and a thick, beautiful and floriferous hedge resulted.

And now back to the election results…. 😀

Frank
Frank
November 26, 2022 6:55 pm

Photo of Cash on her wedding day.

But, that hair. Prediction is for her too start turning into this by the time she retires from parliament.

Makka
Makka
November 26, 2022 6:56 pm

He shared no details but said there’s a lot more to it and it’s being actively suppressed by senior command.

Well, of course. In Sicktoria the Govt and Vikplod are hand in glove looking after one another. In true totalitarian fashion. And don’t expect any investigative journalism to dig too deep. That’s just not how we roll in the South.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 26, 2022 6:57 pm

Probably pretty good if the wedding was in the 80s. Time is rarely kind.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 26, 2022 7:00 pm

In the event I ever get up for the Senate that is the look I will aim for. Can’t be too high or too square.

Indolent
Indolent
November 26, 2022 7:04 pm
Mater
November 26, 2022 7:11 pm

Gee, John Brumby (another retard gifted to us from the Bendigo electorate – back in the day) says the small l liberals think the LNP has moved too far to the Right.

What LNP is he (or they) looking at?

Makka
Makka
November 26, 2022 7:16 pm

Can’t watch Speers and those other left scumbags on ABC. Sickening bias and spin. Greens get coaching and encourageent, the SLF clown gets interruptions and challenges.

Labour; time to move on from the imprisonment , beatings and police brutality. Let it be folks.

SFL’s; it’s the debt I tells ya! The debt!

(vomit)

rosie
rosie
November 26, 2022 7:19 pm
rosie
rosie
November 26, 2022 7:22 pm
Helen
Helen
November 26, 2022 7:37 pm

I tried, but had to leave. It made me sick and hangry at the same time, there are so many I wouldn’t mind if they fell down a mine shaft somewhere. (not a death threat)

Bluey
Bluey
November 26, 2022 7:41 pm

rosiesays:
November 26, 2022 at 7:22 pm
vec site

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No surprise my current MP, professional pollie and bootlicker of Andrews, is romping it in so far, with the nearest threat being the greens candidate.

rosie
rosie
November 26, 2022 7:44 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 26, 2022 7:45 pm

vec site

Had a look at them earlier: hopeless.

Much as I hate the ABC the wizard Antony has been doing his thing well:

Victoria Election 2022 Results (Live ABC)

Early numbers suggest a small swing to the Libs, 1-5% depending on the seat.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 26, 2022 7:46 pm

Pallas dribbles Vic state debt same as NSW. Keep telling yourself that mate…

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 26, 2022 7:53 pm

Wow the Independent candidate for Hawthorn sounds like an absolute airhead….

cohenite
November 26, 2022 7:55 pm

This country is cooked: the filth\teals will be the big winners in victoristan. One such teal kunt interviewed gushed when asked what were the issues that will get her over the line says climate change, climate change, climate change. The upside will be her ugly mug will be invisible at night when the lights go out.

custard
custard
November 26, 2022 7:58 pm

Cook running second in Mulgrave

jupes
jupes
November 26, 2022 8:00 pm

Check out the Teals! The White Karens’ Party.

https://twitter.com/Mon4Kooyong/status/1596232255030104065

custard
custard
November 26, 2022 8:05 pm

reports of booths running out of ballot paper

USA clown show now in Australia

custard
custard
November 26, 2022 8:06 pm

Election fraud is the biggest story in the world.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 26, 2022 8:07 pm

Check out the Teals!

Stepford wives. Even the men. Like androids. We are the hollow Teals, we are the stuffed Teals, leaning together, headpieces filled with tofu.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

reports of booths running out of ballot paper

USA clown show now in Australia

Nothing sinister in this.
Union run.
It’s a wonder they had any ballot papers at all.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 26, 2022 8:10 pm

Kooyong. Hawthorn.

Teals. This is simple.

The more affluent the electorate, the stupider the electorate.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 26, 2022 8:11 pm

Sadly, Andrews has smacked it in for Mulgrave.

CrazyOldRanga
CrazyOldRanga
November 26, 2022 8:11 pm

Sad to say, Labore will be returned. Matt Guy may even lose his seat. Independents will decide the election.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 26, 2022 8:12 pm

Starting to see quite a few swings to Labor.
Beat me Master, I must be chastised some more.
I am your slave forever, I will worship thy slug.

jupes
jupes
November 26, 2022 8:14 pm

Election fraud is the biggest story in the world.

Oh yes. And Arizona is the very epicenter of election fraud. Of course, not a peep about it in the corporate media.

m0nty
November 26, 2022 8:14 pm

The cold, hard steel of electoral reality cuts through cooker dreams.

Mr Slug getting salty.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

CrazyOldRanga says: November 26, 2022 at 8:11 pm
Matt Guy may even lose his seat.

The election isn’t a total loss then.

rosie
rosie
November 26, 2022 8:16 pm

What gets counted first, booths or early?

Mater
November 26, 2022 8:16 pm

The upside of the Teal, Green and ALP preferences creating Government is that Conservatives can’t be blamed for the energy debacle that is on the horizon.

Given that it is the backbone policy of all these parties, the future will be interesting.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 26, 2022 8:17 pm

Breaking:

Jeff Kennett arrested for throwing port bottles into every big screen at Crown Casino.

Tom
Tom
November 26, 2022 8:21 pm

Sky News calls the election for the Liars at 8.15 pm and the Libs’ Michael Kroger agrees.

As predicted, the Stupid Fucking Liberals are being eaten alive by the Filth and the Teals.

That’s what you get when the main opposition party runs on a Labor platform.

cohenite
November 26, 2022 8:21 pm

The more affluent the electorate, the stupider the electorate.

Maybe; I think they’re arrogant and riven with cognitive dissonance: no teal/filth would ever think they will be affected by the green commie zealotry. They regard themselves as too special. It’s the defining characteristic of the left. Climate change supplies the sophistic justification: saving the world has a complicated science behind it; only they can understand it; sceptics don’t understand and are lessor people. They can’t question or doubt the alarmist sophistry because it’s what justifies their self worth. Basic psychology.

Fucking Kroger; typical liberal. I remember some years ago in Sydney at a protest against alarmism; he sidled up after I gave a speech. He had counted heads and could barely hide his disdain. They have no principle, fight, gumption. Pathetic shadows. Belt and road here we come.

m0nty
November 26, 2022 8:21 pm

Greens only six points behind LNP in my inner west seat.

custard
custard
November 26, 2022 8:22 pm

not a peep about it in the corporate media.

the MSM has lost the narrative

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 26, 2022 8:22 pm

The upside of the Teal, Green and ALP preferences creating Government is that Conservatives can’t be blamed for the energy debacle that is on the horizon.

Mmm. No finger pointing.

Not for the first time, I am glad I live at the other end of the country.

No it is not The Last Holdout.

Old bloke
Old bloke
November 26, 2022 8:23 pm

H B Bear says:
November 26, 2022 at 6:49 pm

Buxus strike pretty well but are pretty slow growers. I’ve only ever bought one but have around 30 around the place. Great plant.

I went for African Box, seems well suited to Darling Range bauxite gravel ‘soil’ and thrives on neglect.

cohenite
November 26, 2022 8:23 pm

The cold, hard steel of electoral reality cuts through cooker dreams.

Mr Slug getting salty.

Speaking of slugs, dickless oozes in.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 26, 2022 8:23 pm

Credlin on Skah, looking like someone promised her a ripstart but didn’t deliver.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 26, 2022 8:24 pm

Blockquotes.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 26, 2022 8:24 pm

The unproductive have spoken.

jupes
jupes
November 26, 2022 8:25 pm

The upside of the Teal, Green and ALP preferences creating Government is that Conservatives can’t be blamed for the energy debacle that is on the horizon.

Who are the Conservatives? Certainly not the SFLs, who also support the coming energy debacle.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 26, 2022 8:25 pm

Greens only six points behind LNP in my inner west seat.

The more affluent the electorate, the stupider the electorate.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
November 26, 2022 8:25 pm

m0nty says: November 26, 2022 at 8:14 pm

The cold, hard steel of electoral reality cuts through cooker dreams.

Da, this is how comrade m0ntifa prefer to resolve election. Cutting with cold hard steel.
Vox populi, vox kulak, comrades.

cohenite
November 26, 2022 8:26 pm

Kroger is pathetic. Words are coming out of his mouth that are pure shit; at least Credlin is calling it, a bit: the libs are gutless wonders full of shitheads with no values.

Mater
November 26, 2022 8:27 pm

Big swings against ALP but not going to LNP.

Commentators questioning why LNP wasn’t able to capitalise on the anger from the lockdowns, etc.

Easy, you fucking dullards, the LNP didn’t fight against them, and they even criticised protesters. Why would a protest vote on lockdowns be redirected to a party that seemed to support them?

They need to employ commentators with more clues.

jupes
jupes
November 26, 2022 8:28 pm

I, for one, am happy to see the SFLs lose. Let’s hope the lesson they take from this, is to turn further left. I want to see them destroyed. Then, out of the ashes, will come a sensible party. It’s either that or we become a vassal state of the Chicoms.

Tom
Tom
November 26, 2022 8:29 pm

The Stupid Fucking Liberals are heading for WA Liberals territory. They hold only 21 seats in the 88-seat Legislative Assembly and will be lucky to retain a dozen.

They are being eaten alive by wealthy, mainly female fools who don’t believe in the stuff we fought two world wars for.

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 8:29 pm

Check out the Teals!

The Scrubs Party.

Karen Central.

Davey Boy
Davey Boy
November 26, 2022 8:30 pm

the.fix.is.in.

Mater
November 26, 2022 8:31 pm

Who are the Conservatives? Certainly not the SFLs, who also support the coming energy debacle.

Correct, Jupes.
You’ll notice I used the word ‘Conservatives’ rather than the LNP.

The Lefties can own the coming disaster, 100%.

rosie
rosie
November 26, 2022 8:32 pm

Told lnp pollster who rang they should have gone hard on lockdowns, promise to repeal pandemic legislation and their metoo on energy was utterly pathetic, more solar rebates! and they did not get my first second or third preference.

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 8:32 pm

So very sorry Vic Cats. Looks like the most evil imbecile wins. The stupid one loses.

rosie
rosie
November 26, 2022 8:33 pm

It’s not a fix, liberals didn’t represent an alternative and are getting what they deserve.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 26, 2022 8:33 pm

Not attacking the man has failed miserably for the Libs.
A skilled operator would have made the entire election about Andrews and his pandemic cruelties but Guy the Gutless smiled his way to oblivion.

Louis Litt
November 26, 2022 8:35 pm

Ok what is the opinion of aus v Tunisia.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
November 26, 2022 8:36 pm

Only 7% of Mulgrave counted after 2.5hrs.
Somebody gave the go-slow order?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 26, 2022 8:36 pm

Greens only six points behind LNP in my inner west seat.

If so, Monty, there can’t be many actual thinking humans in your electorate.
I should reread C M Kornbluth’s short story “The Marching Morons”.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 26, 2022 8:37 pm

The good thing about living in the bush is you don’t run into the idiots who vote for TaliDan too often.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 26, 2022 8:37 pm

Greens Deputy Leader Ellen Sandell has huge tits, whereas the ABC presenter next to Speers doesn’t appear to have any.

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 8:37 pm

All this means is an endorsement of what Dan has done to you. And opened a door for more. Some people must have enjoyed it.

Crossie
Crossie
November 26, 2022 8:38 pm

I see it was a good idea to give the election coverage a Miss and watch recorded episodes of Jeopardy.

Crossie
Crossie
November 26, 2022 8:38 pm

I see it was a good idea to give the election coverage a Miss and watch recorded episodes of Jeopardy.

m0nty
November 26, 2022 8:39 pm

Not attacking the man has failed miserably for the Libs.

They did nothing but attack the man. They put Dan on their HTV cards.

They failed miserably.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 26, 2022 8:40 pm

Colonel Crispin Berkasays:
November 26, 2022 at 8:36 pm

Ta Col. Interesting delay anyway even though I think Andrews will prevail anyway. The VEC aint Arizona…

Mater
November 26, 2022 8:41 pm

They did nothing but attack the man. They put Dan on their HTV cards.

No wonder nobody took them.

MatrixTransform
November 26, 2022 8:43 pm

Matt Guy may even lose his seat.

and Michael O’Brien is safe

if the hunchback won’t fall

then Matthew Guy’s demise will satisfy me

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 26, 2022 8:43 pm

They failed miserably.

Um, Monty, if you have been attending to Cat conversation you might have noticed that that is a long held consensus.

My impression is Guy was promising to do exactly what Labor was promising to do, except more nicely.

Sure to cut though.

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