Open Thread – Tue 13 Dec 2022


The Census at Bethlehem, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1566


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Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
December 15, 2022 10:27 pm

cohenite says:
December 15, 2022 at 9:46 pm
Worth noting that Mt Hotham yesterday recorded Victoria’s coldest ever summer minimum at -5.4C

Watching the FINA short course world championships in melbourne at the moment.
The crowd is rugged up to the gills. Swimmers come to the blocks dressed in puffer jackets and gloves. Medal presenters have their best winter coats on.
I hope a little of the visual evidence sinks in to those watching that global warming is not a thing. I’m certainly reminding my circle of friends and family.

Jorge
Jorge
December 15, 2022 10:27 pm

Why are there no bald aborigines ?

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 10:29 pm

Gez

There’s this, from the BOM

Cooler temperatures

La Niña years tend to see cooler than average maximum temperatures across most of mainland Australia south of the tropics, particularly during the second half of the year. This is due to increased cloud cover and rainfall. However, the increased cloud cover tends to act as an insulator and results in warmer than average minimum temperatures across northern and eastern Australia during La Niña.

And right on cue , we have cooler temps in the southern latitudes.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 10:31 pm

JC
The wet in a normal La Niña is well understood and expected but the cold being experienced is from the amplification of Antarctic weather systems.
These two factors aren’t necessarily linked and are more of a coincidence just like the negative Indian Ocean dipole phase that further enhances rainfall during this La Niña.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I’ve seen plenty of pub blues, some very full on ones. I never want to experience another in my life, not even on TV.

I do not have the skill with a quill to describe what it is like to be present when several adult men are trying to kill each other with their bare hands, or any implements perchance are nearby.

The three years of quiet life stemming from all this coronavirus shemozzle has made me comfortable & soft.
I do not want pub blues to start up again.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 10:31 pm

whoops ignore last comment.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 15, 2022 10:35 pm

Why are there no bald aborigines ?

There’s plenty around Jorge. I have my father and uncles who have had receding hairlines so decided to go the Gandhi look.

duncanm
duncanm
December 15, 2022 10:37 pm

Bad experience with a Bosch dishwasher that died just outside of warranty.

asko for dishwashers. They’re awesome.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 15, 2022 10:39 pm

Sitting on the couch rugged up and imbibing some Jim Beam. Enough to keep me warm. Stones Mac was a favourite during the football matches of yesteryear when it was cold enough to freeze the end of an Eskimo’s tool (HT Rodney Rude)

Zipster
December 15, 2022 10:40 pm

I had to turn the heater on in mid december!!!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 15, 2022 10:40 pm

Sure Dick Ed, sure. Ever thought that perhaps 11 jurors didn’t buy her story, and one sabotaged the trial?

For shame, Cassie – don’t you realize that Grogarly has spoken?

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 10:41 pm

Black Ball, you still living around the big K?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Why are there no bald aborigines ?

What is the source for that erroneous claim?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 15, 2022 10:42 pm

I find it interesting that quite a few who scream ‘Blogwrecker! You will destroy this blog, you scoundrel!’ and similar are just people who either don’t like the topics presented by others, or to whom other people present a contrary view on said topic/s.

If everyone is not in furious agreement with the screecher, suddenly the entire blog is in danger. Woe betide the punters if some gentle pisstaking occurs. Wow, woweee, hoo boy.

The lurkerscreechers are the best ones of the lot. Contribute nothing, yet sporadically complain about the nature of the entertainment then follow up by declaring the end of the world, if not actually attempting to speak to the blog owner.

The recent stoushes here are bugger-all compared to some of the titanic, ocean-spanning barneys that occurred on ExCat. In my extremely humble and ill-informed opinion, FlashCat will remain as long as the owner wants it to.

MatrixTransform
December 15, 2022 10:43 pm

enough to freeze the end of an Eskimo’s tool

colder than a penguin’s pee-pee

custard
custard
December 15, 2022 10:44 pm

Now that the bar fight is over

Here’s how the great big awakening is winning over the great big reset

Trump has announced that America needs a super hero.

He has said that an announcement will be made overnight.

Many pundits have speculated about what it might mean, we’ll all just have to wait.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 15, 2022 10:44 pm

Yes JC

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 15, 2022 10:44 pm

colder than a penguin’s pee-pee

Cold as a mother -in – laws kiss..

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 15, 2022 10:44 pm

Stones Mac was a favourite during the football matches of yesteryear when it was cold enough to freeze the end of an Eskimo’s tool

Preach it. Stones Mac was and is a perfect companion for a spot of early winter morning shooting and/or golf as well.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 15, 2022 10:45 pm

JC
The minimums have been lower this year which directly contradicts the overly simple BoM explanation of a normal La Niña.
My points are facts that have been observed and highlighted by the BoM to explain the not so usual colder minimum temps this year.
Last year was a Nina as well. Bendigo has an average minimum of 9.8 this December as compared to 11.9 in 2021.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 15, 2022 10:47 pm

Sal
Out here in the wild wild west, a blue is a firey verbal argument.
A punch-on is called a barney.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 15, 2022 10:48 pm

And a group melee is called a donnybrook, which I’ve heard from the US too interestingly.

Zipster
December 15, 2022 10:52 pm

Pre-pandemic artificial MERS analog of polyfunctional SARS-CoV-2 S1/S2 furin cleavage site domain is unique among betacoronaviruses
As the evolutionarily closest betacoronaviruses outside of the SARS-CoV-2 clade lack all its three functional features, this critical S1/S2 polyfunctional domain becomes an unlikely product of natural evolution alone. This evidence implicates a possible artificial origin of SARS-CoV-2 and extends the current view on its pathogenesis.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 15, 2022 10:52 pm

Erin Holland Sir Dragger. Discuss.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Out here in the wild wild west, a blue is a firey verbal argument.
A punch-on is called a barney.

Wow, the fine nuances of Oz regional slang.

Barney is cockney thieves cant. (IIRC)
Donnybrook is Irish? (it being a roughish suburb p’raps?)

We’ll have to ask Lizzie.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 10:54 pm

Yeah KD, they remind me of the Twitter lefties who threatened to leave if and when Musk took over. Every single one of those clodhoppers, who threatened to jump ship over to the Lollipop Cat, sat in that morgue for a couple of days then huddled back like skulking poodles unable to tolerate the “serenity”. It’s very funny.

Cassie of Sydney
December 15, 2022 10:54 pm

I love and appreciate Dover’s Cat.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Whoa bullick, reversim fella formatting. Dunno what happened there.

Zipster
December 15, 2022 10:55 pm

Vaccine makers bribed the European Commissioner?

One of the biggest corruption scandals in the history of the European Union may go unnoticed due to the fact that this monstrous story is so inconvenient that most of the European media, which position themselves as independent, will pretend that nothing happened.

Former President of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) Stella Kyriakides, and now the European Commissioner on health and food safety, the man who signed contracts with coronavirus vaccine manufacturers on behalf of the EU appears to be involved in a gigantic corruption scandal. Journalists are sure that vaccine manufacturers bribed her.

The joint account of the EU health commissioner and her husband unexpectedly ended up with 4 million euros. The Cypriot press is already literally talking about passive bribery.

The money was deposited into the account of the Commissioner’s family through the Cyprus State Cooperative Bank. In order to avoid a scandal, attempts were made to disguise the transfer as a loan.

This is contrived because the EU health commissioner has no collateral to provide such a loan. As already established in the report of the Cyprus Audit Office, Stella Kyriakides will not be able to pay this huge amount either from her salary or from other sources, so it seems pretty obvious to us: this is a fake loan, therefore, she covers up corruption.

Stella Kyriakides is trying in every possible way to justify herself after being exposed. She is trying to pretend the money has nothing to do with EU vaccine deals and distract from the fact that it could be kickbacks paid by vaccine companies for lucrative contracts to defer or allow limited supplies. Meanwhile, more cautious Cypriot newspapers continue to write about passive bribery.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 10:56 pm

Gez

You’re the farmer and should have decent knowledge about weather, so fair enough.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 10:59 pm

I swear Gez

We got back to Melbourne and the weather is almost cold as most (though not all the days) in NY. It’s actually freaking cold.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 15, 2022 10:59 pm

Discuss.

At the risk of inciting another pub blue/bar fight/donnybrook/melee/punch on, and although I’m sure she’s quite nice, I believe I would knock Erin Holland back. If asked, which is unlikely unless she’s hot for facial scarring.

The rig’s okay but has signs of early-onset bulimia, and she’s just a bit too much Nadia Bartel-ish for mine. Undeniably high-maintenance.

I wouldn’t risk it for that biscuit.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 15, 2022 11:00 pm

Before I retire for the night, Christopher Walken plays the Bond villain perfecto. I mean shooting his minions constructing his tunnels and laughing, whilst water is gushing, is there anyone else who plays the part better?

cohenite
December 15, 2022 11:00 pm

Why are below average temps in a La Niña period in any way surprising.

The extremes and trends cover longer periods. Things are getting cooler beyond the La Nina period. Try and get that through turtle’s and rub and tug’s pea brains.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I believe I would knock Erin Holland back

Who or what is Erin Holland?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 15, 2022 11:03 pm

Donnybrook is Irish? (it being a roughish suburb p’raps?)

Donnybrook Fair used to be held near Dublin – well known for the odd mass punch up.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 15, 2022 11:04 pm

Who or what is Erin Holland?

Cricket WAG. As a comparison, Candace Warner outpoints her in every department and that’s saying something.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 15, 2022 11:04 pm

Erin Holland, bing images blink reaction-
smiles like a duckface dork
body of a barista
She’s no Milla Jovovich, not by a long shot

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 15, 2022 11:06 pm

James Woods is an excellent movie villain. Could probably run a decent Bond arch-nemesis.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 15, 2022 11:06 pm

Who or what is Erin Holland?

Lady presenter of cricket Big Bash. Very attractive, but hopefully doesn’t go the Nadia Bartel route as Dragger correctly identified.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 11:06 pm

Talking about Twitter and Twitter lefties. I feels like decades, but do folks recall the Employees letter to Musk with their list of demands?

Twitter staff write open letter to Elon Musk with warning and demands

The full text of the open letter

Staff, Elon Musk, and Board of Directors:

We, the undersigned Twitter workers, believe the public conversation is in jeopardy.

Elon Musk’s plan to lay off 75% of Twitter workers will hurt Twitter’s ability to serve the public conversation. A threat of this magnitude is reckless, undermines our users’ and customers’ trust in our platform, and is a transparent act of worker intimidation.

Twitter has significant effects on societies and communities across the globe. As we speak, Twitter is helping to uplift independent journalism in Ukraine and Iran, as well as powering social movements around the world.

A threat to workers at Twitter is a threat to Twitter’s future. These threats have an impact on us as workers and demonstrate a fundamental disconnect with the realities of operating Twitter. They threaten our livelihoods, access to essential healthcare, and the ability for visa holders to stay in the country they work in. We cannot do our work in an environment of constant harassment and threats. Without our work, there is no Twitter.

We, the workers at Twitter, will not be intimidated. We recommit to supporting the communities, organizations, and businesses who rely on Twitter. We will not stop serving the public conversation.

We call on Twitter management and Elon Musk to cease these negligent layoff threats. As workers, we deserve concrete commitments so we can continue to preserve the integrity of our platform.

We demand of current and future leadership:

Respect: We demand leadership to respect the platform and the workers who maintain it by committing to preserving the current headcount.

Safety: We demand that leadership does not discriminate against workers on the basis of their race, gender, disability, sexual orientation, or political beliefs. We also demand safety for workers on visas, who will be forced to leave the country they work in if they are laid off.

Protection: We demand Elon Musk explicitly commit to preserve our benefits, those both listed in the merger agreement and not (e.g. remote work). We demand leadership to establish and ensure fair severance policies for all workers before and after any change in ownership.

Dignity: We demand transparent, prompt and thoughtful communication around our working conditions. We demand to be treated with dignity, and to not be treated as mere pawns in a game played by billionaires.

Sincerely,

Twitter workers

A couple of weeks later 50% of the fuckers were gonesky.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Cricket WAG.

oic.

Candace Warner outpoints her in every department

Presumably Candace Warner is another Cricket WAG?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Google is my friend.
Now I know who is Erin Holland (hint: it is not an Irish enclave near Amsterdam) Candace Warner & Nadia Bartel.

They’re good looking enough to get a job at my place. However I’ve a feeling they’re already far better paid & not required to work standing up.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 11:20 pm

Hollywood, who would ever go there.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 15, 2022 11:23 pm

Correction- donnybrook caught my ear in an occasionally pissfunny Canadian comedy, Letterkenny.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 15, 2022 11:31 pm

Daily Mail.

AUSTRALIA’S SH*T TOWNS ARE NAMED 

1. Townsville, QLD

2. Mount Druitt, NSW

3. Alice Springs

4. Port Pirie, SA

5. Frankston, VIC

6. Port Hedland, WA

7. Fyshwick, ACT

7. Queenstown, TAS

Source: S*** towns of Australia Facebook page (voted by followers)

MatrixTransform
December 15, 2022 11:42 pm

apropos of nothing

https://youtu.be/NVFiMHzyu3g

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 15, 2022 11:45 pm

https://youtu.be/NVFiMHzyu3g

Ek roll ap die vloor…….

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 15, 2022 11:50 pm

Yes and the Voting Count is now in. Apparently the letters JC now stand for Jerkoff C(r)unt. Let it be so.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 16, 2022 12:02 am

Barney is cockney thieves cant. (IIRC)

I always thought that Barney was short for Barney Rubble of the Flintstones. So, a Barney is ‘Trouble’. Trouble rhymes with ‘Barney Rubble’.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 16, 2022 12:05 am

You’re thinking of Bam-Bam, JR.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 16, 2022 12:06 am

Which costs more, a trophy wife … or a prostitute?

Struth, I used to think you were ok about women.
I used to think that you honoured marriage as a decent conservative would.
I used to think that I’d always welcome you into my home for a cuppa.

I no longer think any of these things.

You’d put a vaccinated 80 year old up against a wall, call her a Nazi traitor and shoot her.
You are scrum. And dangerously deluded. I would never trust you again.
You don’t belong on the Catallaxy that I knew and still support. Go away.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 16, 2022 12:07 am

scrum – I rather like that as a variant of scum. Screaming scum.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 16, 2022 12:12 am

Port Hedland only No 6? Take that as a win. Few places around there would be breathing a sigh of relief.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 16, 2022 12:16 am

LOL Townsville 2 years in a row. Probably deserved but honestly rinse & repeat across any town north of the tropic of Capricorn having a sizable amount of similar grogans.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 16, 2022 12:18 am

Few places around there would be breathing a sigh of relief.

Hall’s Creek? Roeburn?

Gabor
Gabor
December 16, 2022 12:21 am

Interesting?

Former Wimbledon champion Boris Becker has been released from jail today and will be deported from the UK, according to the PA news agency

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I always thought that Barney was short for Barney Rubble of the Flintstones. So, a Barney is ‘Trouble’. Trouble rhymes with ‘Barney Rubble’.

JR, Cockney rhyming slang & thieves cant are two entirely different languages.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 16, 2022 12:24 am

Trooble at property doon from t’vineyard.
Might have an interesting case- the prep which the marron farmer is pointing the finger at, sulphur and what I think is copper oxychloride, has an insecticidal effect but is not a knockdown insecticide per se. It also smells terrible, which is not a problem in my sulphur- and copper-free vineyard smug smiley halo emoji.
I reckon more likely is, heavy metal poisoning for the bees (not barracking for the stinging wee shits, I rate them as the most aggressive feral animals to ever get into the Australian bush) like boron or manganese… but tankie looks to a winery as a source of cash who will pay out to hush up quick, what with narrative being so important to their trade.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 16, 2022 12:26 am

Hall’s Creek? Roeburn?

Amongst others. Could really be any of half a dozen really. How big do they have to be? Far west of NSW would give a few a run. Never been outback in Qld, the SE is bad enough.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 16, 2022 12:30 am

Just having drinks with a mate who’s done two years in station country out of Hall’s Creek. He’s been around Murchison and remote communities all his life, and has that realistically affectionate but no bullshit approach to first nationses living on country… he says it’s not even funny. It is literally Hell’s Crack, and should be nuked from orbit.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 16, 2022 12:33 am

My old man was the GP in Roebourne and I lived there till I was 4. Apparently they used the old gins from the prison to look after me. One of my earliest memories was going back to Port Sampson during the first few years of primary school holidays to some place with a long drop dunny.

JC
JC
December 16, 2022 12:38 am

Lowrent limeys are the worst.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 16, 2022 12:41 am

I responded above to Struth’s snide comment before I read back thread and saw Dover sensibly call ‘enough’. I don’t regret saying in general terms however that I am disturbed by some of his stances and attitudes. I will ignore him in future, and change the subject, which is the best thing to do.

The blog still lives and is still one of the best around.

And now it’s bedtime for me.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 16, 2022 12:46 am

I am sure the FBI will be looking into corruption by Pfizer bosses.

Nah, just kidding !

“Stella Kyriakides is trying in every possible way to justify herself after being exposed. She is trying to pretend the money has nothing to do with EU vaccine deals and distract from the fact that it could be kickbacks paid by vaccine companies for lucrative contracts “

JC
JC
December 16, 2022 12:47 am

Johnny Rotten says:
December 15, 2022 at 11:50 pm
Yes and the Voting Count is now in. Apparently the letters JC now stand for Jerkoff C(r)unt. Let it be so.

Truce couldn’t last 24 hours.
You worthless limey turd . Stupid jokes, long winded jokes and quoting a convicted fraudster. You should have been deported long ago.

Oh come on
Oh come on
December 16, 2022 12:49 am

Thailand’s Princess Bajrakitiyabha Narendira Debyavati, the oldest child of King Maha Vajiralongkorn, has been taken to hospital after suffering heart problems.

Princess Bajrakitiyabha, 44, lost consciousness on Wednesday while training her dogs for a competition

Just one of those things I guess.

Oh come on
Oh come on
December 16, 2022 12:53 am

Surovykin is looking good on a spreadsheet as he minimises Russian losses and focuses on WW1-style lobbing grenades towards entrenched positions. The war is essentially in a holding pattern while both sides load up for winter and wait for the mud to freeze. Current skirmish patterns are not decisive in any way.

LOL it was just a couple of months ago that Field Marshal m0nty was saying the war was in a holding pattern until the spring thaw.

What a dunce.

JC
JC
December 16, 2022 12:59 am

EU vaccine deals and distract from the fact that it could be kickbacks paid by vaccine companies for lucrative contracts “

Rooster, it could also be that you’re a nasty little queen, but this would have to be proven just like your accusation. Any chance of providing evidence or not so much?

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 16, 2022 1:18 am

Nadia who? Erin whatwhat?
Rachel Finch is the perfectly formed talking head for all to-camera duties.
Close second, Karina Carvalho– keep warm for more serious announcements.
And with the weather, Rebecca Dollery. What a sweetie. And always made you truly believe that she really cared, too.

Gabor
Gabor
December 16, 2022 2:34 am

euronews has a few enlightening links to the ‘alledged’ scandal.
She tries to claim it was a loan, with no security provided.
I think it will be hushed up as many others concerning the EU and Brussels commissars.

Gabor
Gabor
December 16, 2022 2:48 am

Sorry, my last comment was to the Stella Kyriakides ‘alledged’ kickback.
Nice to get a 4 Mill euro loan with no collateral.
Not dissimilar to the US reps have no probs with info and trading, if that is actually correct.

Tom
Tom
December 16, 2022 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2022 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2022 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2022 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2022 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2022 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2022 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2022 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2022 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2022 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2022 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2022 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2022 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2022 4:15 am
rickw
rickw
December 16, 2022 4:20 am

Thanks Tom!

rickw
rickw
December 16, 2022 4:26 am

Just watching Elbow on AlJazzera. What a bloody tosser.

Returning to Australia. Very from inspiring….

rosie
rosie
December 16, 2022 6:18 am
rosie
rosie
December 16, 2022 6:24 am
Pogria
Pogria
December 16, 2022 6:45 am

Aww, I missed last night’s Scrag Fight. Bugger!

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 16, 2022 6:47 am

Policy at moonofalabama:
Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
The last two apply on open forums, of course.

Seriously?
You’re suggesting MoonofAlabama [funded and operated by Spooks]
is any sort of model?

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 16, 2022 6:49 am

Musk is no good.
Likely a Spook.
Prolly a Flamer.

sfw
sfw
December 16, 2022 6:56 am

Rosie, a similar shift occurred after Cain/Kirner blew up the state finances. I was in my early 30’s at the time and I was amazed at how many people I knew left permanently. Most went to the SE Qld coast and WA.

People aren’t generally stupid and will act in what they believe are their best interests. They may have voted for Andrews but the useless Libs not offering an alternative didn’t help. So the young ones look around, Melbourne is a shithole, it really is, becoming an ‘International City’ just means you have heaps of tall buildings that look much the same, and lots of people who don’t look the same. Walk around the city and looking at the people you could be in Mumbai or Beijing, anywhere but Australia.

Throw in the crappy weather, exorbitant rent and house prices and the young ones will see better places to live and raise a family. It will really become evident when the state spends its way to bankruptcy, The oldies will stay and the very young but what is now a steady flow out of Vic will become a torrent. Kennett managed to get the finances back under control, there’s no Kennett around this time and the situation will be much worse.

JC
JC
December 16, 2022 7:00 am

Hallward

You need to make up your mind. At it’s infancy, you were advocating for and threatening to leave Dover’s, for the Lollipop blog. You subsequently informed Dover you were a blogger of long time experience running a model plane blog for adults and knew what you were talking about when handing out advice. Yet here you are still whining and complaining because he just wouldn’t listen to you. Now you offering the Alabama blog for him to follow. Why don’t you fuck off over there and never come back, you miserable limey whiner. You must have come in with the 70s cohort – the worst of the garbage.

JC
JC
December 16, 2022 7:05 am

Talking about Brits throwing out the garbage, I’ve never understood the love Australian descendants of convicts have for Britain. The upper class mostly despised the lower classes and in fact transportation was a way for them to literally dump the garbage as far away from them as they could. They found the convicts despicable. I can’t understand why there was a love of Britain when growing up as it simply wasn’t justifiable.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2022 7:13 am

Black Ball lasr evening.

Stones Mac was a favourite during the football matches of yesteryear …

We made a trip down to Coastal Town when I was playing under 16s one particularly bleak day last century.
The ground was only separated from the ocean by low sandhills and the gale was epic. Hail interspersed with stinging salty horizontal rain. I still remember someone kicking the ball into the wind and the ball travelling about ten metres before looping back over his head.
The coach broke out the Stones at 3/4 time.
Most welcome.
But it would be a major drama if a coach fed 16 year olds a nip of alcohol these days.

Cassie of Sydney
December 16, 2022 7:14 am

From the Oz…..

Unholy row over Catholic Church leads to a legal schism at Corrs Chambers Westgarth

Corrs Chambers Westgarth boss Gavin MacLaren this year expressed his desire to see the firm he captains “walk past” market leaders including King & Wood Mallesons, Herbert Smith Freehills and Gilbert + Tobin.

Thanks to some truly terrible handling of the law firm’s dealings with the Catholic Church – dumping it with little warning in July after 60 years as a client – there’s a quiet rebellion in the ranks as lawyers look to exit.

The latest departure will be a major blow to the firm. It’s Justin Fox, a high-flying M&A partner who has been at Corrs for almost 30 years. Beyond appearances in various best lawyers lists around the country, Fox has worked on a number of major corporate deals over the years, including the demerger from Foster’s of Treasury Wine Estates and various transactions for companies, from Scentre to BP Australia.

In a note this week, MacLaren told staff that Fox had “advised me of his decision to retire from the partnership”. “In addition to mentoring many of the firms’ lawyers (including through to partnership), Justin has undertaken a number of senior leadership roles at the firm, including as head of the Melbourne corporate group … as the Melbourne pro bono partner, and as a member of the International Leadership Team,” the email reads.

Sources tell Margin Call that, while Fox is likely to be prohibited from directly hiring from among his former staff at Corrs, several may simply quit to follow him to his new firm.

Much of the tension, this column is told, comes down to how the firm handled its decision to walk away from working with the Catholic Church. That decision was apparently taken with little consultation among senior partners – some of whom presumably had valuable work coming from the archdiocese in Sydney and Melbourne. The former, for what it is worth, decided to take all of its work – not just that in handling historical child abuse claims that Corrs wanted to separate itself from – and give it to Dentons.

Among others who have left was Richard Leder, a long-time Corrs partner who was part of the team that established the Melbourne church’s response to sexual, physical and emotional abuses by priests some two decades ago. Several months ago, Leder engaged Allan Myers KC and appeared all but set to get very ugly. No more news of what has transpired there as yet.

As for Fox, he is heading off to be the head of corporate in Melbourne of Hamilton Locke, where the managing partner is another M&A heavyweight, Nick Humphrey.”

So, we have a scenario where a new woke boss, no doubt infected with anti-Catholic bias, decides to dump a longstanding client, the Catholic Church, a client that no doubt paid its bills on time and gave the firm lucrative work, and what happens? Legal staff, aka partners, who are the ones who fill the coffers of the law firm, are walking.

Go woke go broke.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 16, 2022 7:15 am

Scrag fight, reminds of that scene on Caddie lol

calli
calli
December 16, 2022 7:17 am

From the Guardian link (liberal pinch of salt recommended):

“It was terrifying to have my brother scream and shout at me and my father say things that just simply weren’t true, and my grandmother quietly sit there and sort of take it all in.”

Harry, Harry, Harry…. You weren’t “terrified” at all. What did you think they’d do to you – death by vat of malmsey?

Poor old granny, having to put up with grown men arguing and carrying on like halfwits all over a slew of negative publicity.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2022 7:26 am

“It was terrifying to have my brother scream and shout at me and my father say things that just simply weren’t true, and my grandmother quietly sit there and sort of take it all in.”

Apparently this chap was among those we sent to defeat the Taliban.
Explains a lot.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2022 7:27 am

Erko.
Panties.

Cassie of Sydney
December 16, 2022 7:30 am

I’m not interested in watching the Ginger and the Whinger show. They happen to be two of the most vulgar, grotesque, narcissistic cretons on the planet. He’s a low IQ fop, she’s trailer park trash. However, after reading snippets of what the Ginger has said about his father, his brother, and his recently diseased grandmother in the Netflix documentary, I hope Buckingham Palace do two things…

1. The Ginger and the Whinger should not be invited to the coronation.

2. The Ginger and the Whinger should be stripped of all royal titles.

I have a third wish, alas the royals don’t do this anymore, which is a pity, and that is that William emulate what his ancestor Edward IV did to his treasonous younger brother, George, Duke of Clarence.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 16, 2022 7:31 am

What grotesque waste of space but with parents like tampon and slag…

JMH
JMH
December 16, 2022 7:32 am

JCsays:
December 16, 2022 at 7:00 am

Hallward

ENOUGH.

calli
calli
December 16, 2022 7:34 am

“Erko” glasses are thick framed glasses (with or without prescription lenses) worm by the hip denizens of Erskineville and surrounding ‘burbs.

The name came up at SincCat after The Slapper was given a style re-tread (one of many and seems to be a thing amongst Labor leaders).

JC
JC
December 16, 2022 7:36 am

Enough of what, Angry Karen?`

You were the most vicious Liz pile onner and only stopped because I embarrassed you – now offering advice? Get fuck out here, you loser.

calli
calli
December 16, 2022 7:40 am

George, Duke of Clarence.

Alluded to in my comment. A “hunting accident” might be arranged in the New Forest…better still somewhere up in Scotland.

Ireland’s no good for body disposal – they’re digging up the peat bogs for warmth.

JMH
JMH
December 16, 2022 7:41 am

JCsays:
December 16, 2022 at 7:36 am
Enough of what, Angry Karen?`

ENOUGH.

rosie
rosie
December 16, 2022 7:43 am

I like his new, self proclaimed title.
Harry the Husband.

johanna
johanna
December 16, 2022 7:46 am

Tom probably posted this previously, but I missed it.

Brilliant.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 16, 2022 7:48 am

So Meghan was driven away from the UK after being abused in social media and hounded by the press.
Camilla might just edge her out on that score. Portrayed in the press as a snaggle toothed home wrecking hag who looks like a horse.

JC
JC
December 16, 2022 7:48 am

I find this incredible even at atomic scale. I have a twitter account which I use to mock and make fun of lefties. I’ve had it for about 8 years. I never really cared much and still don’t . I had 3 follower over 8 years. 3! In the past 2 weeks that has risen to 24. Actual numbers? No biggie. Percentage rise really interesting. This is all occurring since Musk began to end shadow banning and the other crap they were doing there. I’ve heard rightwing folks were losing followers in the pre-Musk era and now see their follower numbers rise by thousands a day. Those scum of the earth were really doing a number.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 16, 2022 7:49 am

ENOUGH.

Lurkerscreechers are out early.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2022 7:51 am

Enough, GMH.
ENOUGH!

sfw
sfw
December 16, 2022 7:52 am

JC, look at your followers, are they mostly attractive young women?

rosie
rosie
December 16, 2022 7:54 am
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 16, 2022 7:54 am

calli the re-treading of Liars leader’s is so the proles don’t actually notice how grotesque they are and that’s just listening to them. The visuals are considerably worse. Show business for ugly people.

Tom
Tom
December 16, 2022 7:54 am

Thank you, Cassie of Sydney. Meghan Markle really is trailer park trash.

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 16, 2022 7:55 am

Rosie, a similar shift occurred after Cain/Kirner blew up the state finances. I was in my early 30’s at the time and I was amazed at how many people I knew left permanently. Most went to the SE Qld coast and WA.

The ones we encountered were labourites fleeing Kennett, unwilling to contribute to the recovery, got massive redundancies, bought cheap and basically retired.
The Vic number plates had “Victoria – On the Move” as their tag, we joked they left off “to Queensland”.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
December 16, 2022 7:56 am

Victoria Cain Kirner years was a shithole. Enduring Keatings recession we had to have the place was a rust belt. My wife and I left Vic during those years and moved to Qld. Qld felt positive and was a real breath of fresh air. Kennett from afar was astounding. I could not believe one person could make such a positive difference to a State. However Labor got back in and the Unions were taking over Qld. We returned to Victoria in 2010 to be nearer the grandparents for the kids. It was and still is a surprise how socialist the Vic citizens and msm thinking is. They just don’t see it. The old boiling frog syndrome. I guess. After they recently put Dan back in and the kids are grown we plan to leave Vic in late 2023.

rosie
rosie
December 16, 2022 7:58 am
JC
JC
December 16, 2022 7:59 am

J

MH says:
December 16, 2022 at 7:41 am

JCsays:
December 16, 2022 at 7:36 am
Enough of what, Angry Karen?`

ENOUGH.

You left out the other interesting part.
Tell you what, let’s make this really simple. You apologize to Liz and I want to read a full hearted, ‘I’m sorry, I am a completely poisonous turd and will never do that again’, apology. I read that, in that tone and I will then consider all options.
Go!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 16, 2022 8:00 am

The Hun:

A Ballarat teenager told her own mother she hoped she would die and that she would “dig the hole” for her.

Presumably, this was because the mother decided to raise her kid in Ballarat.

JC
JC
December 16, 2022 8:03 am

sfw says:
December 16, 2022 at 7:52 am

JC, look at your followers, are they mostly attractive young women?

No, boring old political commenters like me.

sfw

Again it isn’t that I’m excited about followers or crap like that. I’m just highlighted how those scumbags kept up the censoring. They were really quite good at it allowing Dorsey to lie to Congress.

rosie
rosie
December 16, 2022 8:03 am
JC
JC
December 16, 2022 8:04 am

Angry Karen

Everything has a cost in life. Nothing is free.

calli
calli
December 16, 2022 8:09 am

The Covid era was when people revealed their true selves.

Quite so. And it’s been an eye-opener.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 16, 2022 8:09 am

“Misunderstanding of the present grows fatally from the ignorance of the past.” – Marc Bloch

The convict thing was mainly centred around, what is now, NSW.
Later settlement in many areas was driven by gold gold gold!

1850s onward, gold hunters swamped the number of convicts.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2022 8:09 am

A Ballarat teenager told her own mother she hoped she would die and that she would “dig the hole” for her.

Stupid kid.
Ballarat is riddled with ready made holes.
Why bother digging another one?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 16, 2022 8:10 am

Knuckles I saw 5 overs of hit and giggle last night. What is it with batsmen having to get their eye in. How many balls have they ever faced to get to play t20. Each ball is different and played on the merit of that ball, not the one before. The only bloke who has any excuse is the opener. He doesn’t know how much bounce and turn the wicket has. The players should have seen the opposition to know what to expect. Unwatchable. Thats praising them. On another matter, where are the sneerers meeting this week. I don’t mind keeping watch for a crazed truck driver while others discuss how to make him stop saying mean things. I had to hold my breath till I passed out, such was the put down. I can’t cope.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 16, 2022 8:10 am

shocking but teal

Nice to see a blogger make good. Manhattan Contrarian has been blogging about global warming stupidity for a long time now. And nice that it’s picked up by Adam Creighton.

In the same vein is this article today:

Astronomical battery cost looms over “renewables” (15 Dec)

Effectively to have somewhat adequate storage you’d need to spend your entire GDP every year just installing batteries and replacing them when they expire.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2022 8:13 am

Ah, yes.
Doctor David Nixon and the vax machines again.
And only 15 days left to save the Daily Expose.

JC
JC
December 16, 2022 8:14 am

I just recall.

We went to a very expensive, busy restaurant in NYC. As soon as I walked inthere was a hushed silence as folks there realized I, me, had just walked into the establishment.

There are some forums where your like a god and people hang on your every word. Parts of my world are like that. I’m on the older side of young. The oracle, the bloke that makes people shit themselves when I enter the room.

I hope it doesn’t sound like I’ve plagiarized a great thinker.

Louis Litt
December 16, 2022 8:15 am

Cassie 7.14 am
Hmmm – what a throwback we have become, we were past it Proddies v Catlicks.
Inclusive – just plain discrimination, then war.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2022 8:15 am

JC at 8:03.
Twitter was gaslighting on an industrial scale.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 16, 2022 8:17 am

Ed Casesays:
December 16, 2022 at 6:49 am
Musk is no good.
Likely a Spook.
Prolly a Flamer.

You still haven’t provided evidence to support your claim that 11 of the Higgins jurors were for “Guilty”. Go check with the Spooks and Flamers on the jury, they might be able to help.

calli
calli
December 16, 2022 8:17 am

On convicts. Anyone who was transported was being punished for minor offences. Anything major and they were hanged.

In addition, transported convicts had skills that would be useful for the new colony. They were basically used as slave labour to set the place up. Once the ToL was granted, they were granted land and left to make the best of it. Which my family did to great effect on the South Coast.

Going back to England, to the crowds and cold, it always strikes me that they were sent out as punishment and ended up at Summer Bay.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2022 8:18 am

JC at 8:14.
Shouldn’t “God” have a capital “G”.
Or are you a minor deity?

Real Deal
Real Deal
December 16, 2022 8:24 am

Read Rosie’s link to Twitter re Plibbers and Pocock flying to Canada. My goodness you ought to read the sucky replies from people. I’m not on twitter but occasionally read it. They all seem to have the same level of self awareness as the #IstandwithDan mob.

rosie
rosie
December 16, 2022 8:25 am

On convicts, family has finally confirmed a direct convict ancestor via my grandfather’s mother, my cousin is emailing me the records on the weekend.
I think he was a political but will confirm.
Irish, so no love for merry old England.

Dot
Dot
December 16, 2022 8:27 am

I’ve never understood the love Australian descendants of convicts have for Britain. The upper class mostly despised the lower classes and in fact transportation was a way for them to literally dump the garbage as far away from them as they could. They found the convicts despicable

1. I come from relatively early free settlers and ten pound poms. The early settlers consisted of Presbyterian north western English and Irish settlers. There is a convict in the mix somewhere.
2. South west England, where the ten pound poms come from, is beautiful and where the Wessex line (and now royal line) comes from.
3. The ten pound poms were recusants and not very far removed from 1066 vintage nobility.
4. It’s our heritage. I’d also like to know why my Ligurian ancestor left for England in 1823, and why his castle is in ruins.
5. I can objectively say my family married down. Grandpa was a local alderman and respected professional, but he was also crooked.
6. Many of the convicts were despicable and were justifiably hanged for repeat offences in NSW. On the other hand, there were capital punishment cases for the most petty of larcenies. There was a convict transported at age 9, he was seven when detained, arrived at 11 and was sent to Norfolk Is. at 15. He did his time and came back to Sydney. He then disappeared off the face of the earth after a while. Also, there was no automatic right of return to the UK IIRC.

That’s why it is fascinating. Australian history is actually incredibly interesting, how it is taught in school and university is unbelievably boring.

Cassie of Sydney
December 16, 2022 8:27 am

” They happen to be two of the most vulgar, grotesque, narcissistic cretons on the planet”

I forgot to add a very critical descriptor ….avaricious. They’ve been paid, how much? $100 million USD. That’s lots of buckaroos. Seeing the Whinger sitting on a couch weeping about how badly she was treated. The thing is, she was sitting on a Hermes blanket, which costs a few thousand dollars. What a nice gig! The Ginger and the Whinger have adopted every progressive cause on the planet and now they hang around with progressive, neo-Marxist BLM supporting scum, both seem unaware of the huge hypocrisy here here which points to their mutual low IQ, but does this surprise me? Nup, nobody does hypocrisy like the left, nobody likes the dosh like the left. Both are clearly too dumb to know and understand history, they’re walking on thin ice and the ice is cracking.

Sometimes I wish for a cellar in Ekaterinburg.

There was a reason, once upon a time, why royals only married royals, most knew the fundamentals of how to behave, having been brought up in a similar way. However, if a royal did misbehave or step out of line, most were dealt with swiftly, the Ottomans drowned wayward royal women in the Bosphorus. In the case of King George I’s wife, Princess Sophie Dorothea of Hanover, who was locked in a castle for over thirty years, forbidden to see her children, after she engaged in an adulterous affair with a Scandinavian aristocrat. Sophie Dorothea’s great-granddaughter, the sad Princess Caroline Matilda of Great Britain, King George III’s sister, married the loopy King of Denmark. She then embarked on a torrid affair with a handsome Swedish aristocrat. Once discovered, she was made to stand on the palace balcony by the King and his courtiers and watch her Swedish paramour get his head lobbed off. Poor Princess Caroline Matilda went mad.

Brutal times, but they had some merit!

rosie
rosie
December 16, 2022 8:28 am

Calli there were a few hardened types sent to Tasmania.
A Tasmanian published a little booklet with details of what various prisoners were sentenced for, was in print for years, can’t think what it was called.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 16, 2022 8:29 am

Irish, so no love for merry old England.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Could all things be explained by the Oyrish migration?

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
December 16, 2022 8:29 am

1850s onward, gold hunters swamped the number of convicts.

Which was a major reason behind transportation ceasing around that time. Sending people off to Australia was no longer a punishment when they could potentially make a fortune there.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 16, 2022 8:30 am

What is it with batsmen having to get their eye in. How many balls have they ever faced to get to play t20. Each ball is different and played on the merit of that ball, not the one before.

T20 crikkit is, when boiled down, luck and money. Quite a few of the players are first graders from the major cities whose consistency at a certain level wouldn’t support getting a gig at Shield level, let alone anything above that. They have the skill to put the ball in the middle of the bat (mostly), and their strength combined with bat improvement over time means that in this day and age they can muscle the pill to or over the fence better than their counterparts of 20 years ago.

However, those players are also a) trying to keep their rookie contracts, b) trying to get put onto a regular contract, or c) trying not to lose (a) or (b). Because those contracts are comparatively worth quite a bit – and may also get them sponsored – some of them are more cautious early on than others.

Therefore, they risk the wrath of their coaches/management by leaving one or two early for the reward of having that additional look at the bowler and deck, and capitalising after that. The top line players will generally hit the go button from ball one because they are better than average, and also because they have less to lose.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 16, 2022 8:31 am

Not so Calli
My great great granny poisoned a woman.
She died.
At the age of eighteen she transported to Tasmania by order of the judge after a death sentence was passed.

Dot
Dot
December 16, 2022 8:31 am

I have a third wish, alas the royals don’t do this anymore, which is a pity, and that is that William emulate what his ancestor Edward IV did to his treasonous younger brother, George, Duke of Clarence.

I believe Bill S, notorious Tudor propagandist “Avon upon Stafford Rose Gardener”; George was a patsy. Dick was a fink!

JC
JC
December 16, 2022 8:33 am

Sancho Panzer says:
December 16, 2022 at 8:18 am

JC at 8:14.
Shouldn’t “God” have a capital “G”.
Or are you a minor deity?

Oh shit. Huge mistake

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 16, 2022 8:33 am

Made more money in the 80’s and 90’s in straight dollar terms without adjusting for inflation. I don’t like getting older, I have lots of ideas and see opportunities all the time but with government on all levels make it a waste of time. I really can’t be bothered. These days keeping governments hand out of your back pocket is the biggest challenge.

m0nty
m0nty
December 16, 2022 8:34 am

Hey JC, are you going to buy a Trump NFT?

Dot
Dot
December 16, 2022 8:35 am

Going back to England, to the crowds and cold, it always strikes me that they were sent out as punishment and ended up at Summer Bay.

Let me get this straight.

Arthur Philip is “Fletcher” and Governor Bligh is Alf Stewart?

Dot
Dot
December 16, 2022 8:36 am

Trump NFT

The simulation strikes again.

JC
JC
December 16, 2022 8:37 am

m0nty says:
December 16, 2022 at 8:34 am

Hey JC, are you going to buy a Trump NFT?

What’s an NFT, Fatboy?

johanna
johanna
December 16, 2022 8:38 am

The juvenile, repetitive ‘nynaah, nynyanaah, nyanahanynaa’ among the usual suspects is like trying to live in a house with Persian cats when you have an all black wardrobe.

I do think that a spell in moderation might calm things down.

I’m not enjoying the abusive language or explicit sexual stuff either. I’m no prude, but it’s illiterate, unpleasant and adds nothing. Fair enough if someone is angry and/or upset and uses a ‘bad’ word.

But, engaging in long running, pointless feuds while spraying around words and sentiments that you would not say in front of your mother is another thing.

We arthritis sufferers want justice for our scrolling fingers! 🙂

custard
custard
December 16, 2022 8:38 am
calli
calli
December 16, 2022 8:40 am

Mine were sent for poaching deer and theft of linens. Ended up as farmers.

Since cooking and stitching and gardening are my favourite pastimes, the apple hasn’t fallen far from the tree.

I draw the line at stealing though. No ill gotten gains in this house. 😀

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 16, 2022 8:40 am

Further slang sub-variety disambiguation- am I right that “hooch” is alchohol? When did it become slang for marijuana?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 16, 2022 8:43 am

Could all things be explained by the Oyrish migration?

Dublin is at 18, Sydney at 32 and Melbourne at 34.

Paris takes the No.1 spot in a ranking of the top 100 cities for 2022 (15 Dec)

Paris has been named the world’s top city destination, according to a study that rates cities for tourism, sustainability and economic performance. Paris takes the No.1 spot for the second year running in Euromonitor International’s Top 100 City Destinations ranking, produced from a comparison of 57 metrics across six ‘key pillars’ – economic and business performance; tourism performance; tourism infrastructure; tourism policy and attractiveness; health and safety; and sustainability.

Time for the migration to reverse and the lockdown-convicts go back to the old country. I’m sure our intolerant first nations people would like that.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 16, 2022 8:44 am

she was sitting on a Hermes blanket, which costs a few thousand dollars

I had to hoogle this. You can apparently tell a Hermes blanket by the big Hs all over them, and they are made in Scotland.

This, however, does not answer the more urgent questions – why have a blanket if you’re going to sit on it? Isn’t it supposed to be the other way around?

To be fair, my own blanket experience consists of the fluffy tartan one the olds kept in the boot of the car, and which was brought out for the kids in the back during annual trips. To Ballarat, mostly.

Also finding whatever blanket was available and putting it on the bed so I wouldn’t freeze to death. Again, mostly in Ballarat.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 16, 2022 8:45 am

Not going to watch the Netflix series, and think Has and Megs are boring narcissistic twits, but the whole thing is quite interesting in that it will likely pan out to be a re-run of the appalling Duke of Windsor and his shallow self-obsessed wife. Seeing Edward VIII crash and burn must have been the 1930s equivalent of this.

A fair summary:

Vicious, excoriating: Harry and Meghan’s Netflix series is a wrong royal revenge

By JACQUELIN MAGNAY
EUROPE CORRESPONDENT

Harry & Meghan’s Netflix revenge on the royal family is a vicious targeting of Buckingham Palace, Prince Harry’s father King Charles and his brother Prince William but it is also a psychological minefield, with Harry conflating his wife and his mother.

At every point in the six part series, Harry alludes to the experiences of Diana the Princess of Wales and equates them with Meghan. An occasional reference is understandable but this was an astounding cross generational loveathon, from the timing of Meghan’s announcement of their second child, which was the same day as Diana announced her second pregnancy, to the perceived harassment of the press, to how Diana would wipe away tears before carrying out an engagement. Hey, that’s exactly what was happening to Meghan, Harry insisted.

And of course Meghan was so wildly popular on her 2018 Australian tour, just like Diana, that the “internals” in the palace had to redress the imbalance. According to Harry, Meghan (like Diana) was so much better at doing royal things than the people who were born to do it. Diana’s claims in her infamous Panorama interview that: “With the media situation came a lot of jealousy”, Harry insisted that like his mother, “the penny dropped for Meghan” when she was on the front page of newspapers after an event attended by major royals including the Queen.

Cue the evil British press who apparently were complicit in the heartbreaking leaking and planting of stories, which were allegedly racist in tone, from the office of his brother, Prince William.

This series, and indeed Harry’s upcoming memoirs in January, are completely mistimed and misjudged. For this very entitled couple include in their micro complaints about having had to live (rent free) in the “so small” Nottingham Cottage on the grounds of Kensington Palace, show off their nanny Lauren, and then parade around their own $20m Montecito Californian mansion, including one scene where Meghan is sitting in a chair with a perfectly placed Hermes scarf draped over the back.

All the while the British audience, vilified for telling Meghan during a walkabout in Liverpool that she wasn’t treating her father Thomas very well (Harry still hasn’t met him and Thomas has never met his two grandchildren Archie and Lilibet), face plummeting living standards and a daily struggle to turn on expensive heating in sub zero temperatures.

The Sussexes’s woes won’t find much sympathy in these isles. But then the series was never intended for a British audience, rather an American one with the series’ quite bizarre insistence that everything negative about Meghan was about race.

The series claims media portrayal of Meghan being “Duchess Difficult” and wearing off-the-shoulder dresses that broke royal protocol – comparing similar outfits with Kate that weren’t criticised – was being racist. The series also claims a headline “Get Over Yourself Love’’ was racist.

The series is missing how Meghan’s plummeting relationship with the British public stemmed from her abrasive treatment of staff and complaints that royal duties were often mundane ribbon cutting, and not celebrity filled ostentatious baby showers, or diva-like behaviour in clearing out rows of seats during Wimbledon. Nor was the Sussexes’ constant preaching including about climate change, as they swanned about in private jets, well received. None of this was about Meghan being a woman of colour, but these aspects of their behaviour weren’t addressed in a serious manner in the series.

While it remains to be seen if the American public will believe such one-sided interpretations, the Sussexes have some powerful friends who are clearly supportive.

One funny moment in the series had Meghan exclaiming that she didn’t know Beyonce, who had sent a text to her phone, would know of her. The bigger question is how did Beyonce get Meghan’s number?

And then bizarrely, their new best friend the movie mogul billionaire Tyler Perry, whom Meghan had never met, but who is now the godfather to Lilibet, provided his Beverly Hills mansion for them to escape to for three months in early 2020 after they feared the paparazzi in Canada.

Perry made some of the most controversial claims in the series, inferring that King Charles was acting like a domestic violence abuser by cutting off Harry’s allowance.

Said Perry: “Them making her think she is going crazy, I saw my mother abused for years, I knew the symptoms . this woman (Meghan) was abused, and so was he (Harry). To use the institution to try and do all things batterers do: we are going to cut off money and we are not going to leave you with security, to make you comply and come back, and for both of them to have the wherewithal to say to the palace ‘I don’t give a damn’, I applaud all of that.”

For Harry and Meghan to have allowed such a damaging statement about the royals to survive the editing process in the series of which they are co-producers is extraordinary.

Harry says that the couple had discussed living abroad “for years” living abroad, with New Zealand and then South Africa being seriously considered; so leaving Britain hadn’t blindsided his grandmother, the Queen. He also said he had offered to give up the couple’s royal titles.

Meghan was horrified she wasn’t at the January 2020 Sandringham Summit to discuss their exit from the royal family and Harry believes the scheduling was intentional to ensure she was excluded.

Harry describes scenes of William shouting and then incredibly claims the Queen was somehow deceived by her advisers.

“It was terrifying to have my brother scream and shout at me and have my father say things that simply weren’t true and my grandmother quietly sit there and sort of take it all in,” he said.

With a heavy sigh Harry adds: “She is going to go on the advice she’s been given, everything that happened to us was always going to happen to us”.

While the public in the UK is appalled at Harry and Meghan’s tales of victimhood, just how Charles will respond will be the next chapter in this excoriating, excruciating soap opera.

Oz

Indolent
Indolent
December 16, 2022 8:45 am
Indolent
Indolent
December 16, 2022 8:47 am
Indolent
Indolent
December 16, 2022 8:50 am
Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 16, 2022 8:51 am

BOILED CHRISTMAS FRUITCAKE RECIPE

1 cup butter
1 teaspoon baking powder
1 cup sugar
1 cup brown sugar
4 Large eggs
1 tablespoon lemon juice
1 cup dried fruit
1 tablespoon nuts
1 bottle whisky

METHOD:

Sample whisky to check for quality.

Take large bowl. Check Whisky again to be sure it is of the highest quality. Pour one level cup and drink. Repeat

Turn on electric mixer, beat one cup of butter in a large fluffy bowl. Add one spoon tea of sugar and beat again.

Make sure whisky is still OK. Cry another tup.

Turn off the mixer. Break two legs and add to the bowl and chuck in the cup of dried fruit. Mix on the turner. If the fruit gets stuck in the beaters., pry it loose with a drewscriver. Sample the whisky again to check for consistency.

Next, sift two cups of salt. Or something. Who cares? Check the whisky.

Now sift the lemon juice and strain your nuts. Add one ballespoon of brown sugar, or whatever colour you can find. Wix mel. Grease the oven. Turn the cake pan to 350 gredees.

Don’t forget to beat of the turner. Throw the bowl out of the window. Check the whLisky again and bo to ged.

Nappy Hugh Ear.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2022 8:51 am

johannasays:

December 16, 2022 at 8:38 am

The juvenile, repetitive ‘nynaah, nynyanaah, nyanahanynaa’ among the usual suspects …

You are probably not ideally placed to lecture people about standards of debate and blog decorum.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 16, 2022 8:51 am

Blankets and socks in bed to ward off chilblains.
What kid gets chilblains these days?
Soft little bastards.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 16, 2022 8:52 am

If you’re going through hell, keep going.

– Winston Churchill

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 16, 2022 8:52 am

Climageddon started when Hanrahan was awarded a government grant for his predictive efforts.

bespoke
bespoke
December 16, 2022 8:55 am

rosiesays:
December 16, 2022 at 8:25 am
On convicts, family has finally confirmed a direct convict ancestor via my grandfather’s mother, my cousin is emailing me the records on the weekend.
I think he was a political but will confirm.
Irish, so no love for merry old England.

Haven’t searched but the odds that the poms with the aid of its colonises locked up my ancestors in consideration camps is likely. But I have no lingering animosity based on events long past.
Inherited gilt is the catilist for all conflicts, one day hopefully humanity will stop the cycle.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 16, 2022 8:56 am

Harry says that the couple had discussed living abroad “for years” living abroad, with New Zealand and then South Africa being seriously considered

A truly brilliant lack of self-awareness.

Complaining about racism in Pomland, and then deciding they may go and live – in remarkable colonialist affluence – in NZ, home of the ferocious Maori Wars (as opposed to the alleged ‘frontier wars here) or, and even better, Seth Efrica.

Mind you, SA would be worth it to hear the pair of them reciting the immortal line from Arjun Rudd in LW2:

‘Dip-lo-matic immunity.’

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 16, 2022 8:56 am

Started watching Nasdrovia on SBSondemand. A Spanish comedy series. What a hoot. Actually funny.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 16, 2022 8:56 am

footage in which William denied the royal family were racist after the Oprah Winfrey interview. Meghan reacted with “wow” as she looked at the screen, then hugged Harry, as he said “I wish I knew what to do”.

I’ll tell you what to do, Harry. Butt right out of this American-style beat-up about racism, because in future years it will look like the silliness that most people can see that it is. And you will be ashamed of yourself for letting a drama queen like Meghan draw on your feelings about your mother and the press in order to create havoc and control your life. Clearly you are conflicted. You made a cross-cultural marriage (i.e. you married an American) and such marriages are bound to have elements to strife and misunderstandings. You are not handling these well. Go back to being British. This is your true self.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 16, 2022 8:57 am

Blockquote fail. Apologies.

I was saying ‘Dip-lo-matic immunity’ out loud, trying to get the accent right.

Roger
Roger
December 16, 2022 8:57 am

The Vic number plates had “Victoria – On the Move” as their tag, we joked they left off “to Queensland”.

Later replaced, somewhat optimistically, by “Victoria – The Place To Be”.

Tom
Tom
December 16, 2022 8:58 am

Vicious, excoriating: Harry and Meghan’s Netflix series is a wrong royal revenge

It’s wrong only if you aren’t amused by a rich but unhappy young royal marrying his mother — the mother being played by gold-digging Hollywood trailer park trash Meghan Markle.

Dot
Dot
December 16, 2022 8:58 am

catilist

Why though?

🙁

Indolent
Indolent
December 16, 2022 8:59 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2022 8:59 am

Woops. Formatting fail.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 16, 2022 9:00 am

sfw

Rosie, a similar shift occurred after Cain/Kirner blew up the state finances. I was in my early 30’s at the time and I was amazed at how many people I knew left permanently. Most went to the SE Qld coast and WA.

Yep. My first stint in Melbournibad was around 1990. Anyone who could just left. Then Keating drove the entire economy off a cliff. I went back to Uni.

bespoke
bespoke
December 16, 2022 9:01 am

You are probably not ideally placed to lecture people about standards of debate and blog decorum.

Ironic coming from this sites hungriest scab picker.

custard
custard
December 16, 2022 9:02 am
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 16, 2022 9:03 am

Whatever happened to the promise made by Charles, 9th Earl Spencer, at Diana’s funeral that he would stand by and advise his young nephews as they grew older? Harry could do with a bit of sensible advice from a loving family member external to the Palace right now. Harry is giving the appearance of having, as Sophie Ellesworth, media writer for The Australain put it, mental issues over his familial relationships past and present, which are being enhanced to the point of danger for him by his wife, who brings her own issues regarding her parents to her marriage.

Jorge
Jorge
December 16, 2022 9:03 am

GreyRanga says:
December 16, 2022 at 8:10 am
Knuckles I saw 5 overs of hit and giggle last night. What is it with batsmen having to get their eye in. …….
…..”.The only bloke who has any excuse is the opener. He doesn’t know how much bounce and turn the wicket has. The players should have seen the opposition to know what to expect. Unwatchable

I completely misunderstood this. I read it as a comment on last night’s exchange of insults. Must adjust. Perhaps buy some erkos.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 16, 2022 9:04 am

rosiesays:
December 16, 2022 at 7:54 am
classic nyp headline

“Hairy Plotter – Depressed Vegan” from the comments

wait for him to identify as a black woman.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 16, 2022 9:05 am

Don’t forget that Meghan Markle has been married once before. Has she learned nothing?

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 16, 2022 9:06 am

Yesterday my daughter emailed me again, asking why I didn’t do something useful with my time.

“Like sitting around the pool and drinking wine is not a good thing?” I asked.

Her talking about my “doing-something-useful” seems to be her favourite topic of conversation. She was “only thinking of me” she said and suggested that I go down to the Senior Centre and hang out with the gals. I did this and when I got home last night, I decided to play a prank on her.

I emailed her and told her that I had joined a Parachute Club. She replied “Are you nuts? You are 78 years old and now you’re going to start jumping out of aeroplanes?” I told her that I even got a Membership Card and emailed a copy to her.

She immediately telephoned me and yelled “Good grief, Mum, where are your glasses? This is a Membership to a Prostitute Club, not a Parachute Club”.

“Oh man, I’m in trouble again” I said “I really don’t know what to do. I signed up for five jumps a week!”

The line went quiet and her friend picked up the phone and said that my daughter had fainted.

Life as a Senior Citizen is not getting any easier, but sometimes it can be ever so much fun.

Tom
Tom
December 16, 2022 9:07 am

Indolent, sincere thanks for the many excellent news links you post here. Most of them finish up in my online reference library.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 16, 2022 9:08 am

Stupid kid. Ballarat is riddled with ready made holes. Why bother digging another one?

Probably on work for the dole.

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