The Census at Bethlehem, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1566
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Huh. Biden will chalk this up to his incumbency !
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Oh, I’m sorry you think that about what I think is a profound statement re our being. A greeting card!!!…
The Magazine attached to the Australian had an article just recently about the fantastic limestone cave networks under the desert…
Scanning to catch up after midnight was hard on the scrolling finger.
For those asking how the first-nations part of the Qld story would be spun
First, he wasn’t really Aboriginal:
second, he was a pulled into the redneck vortex..
with an implicit adder – we must silence conspiracy theorists.
Whatever problem the Train brothers and wife had with authority, the killing of their neighbour was even further beyond the pale.
Seems to me they were expecting a police visit and the killings were premeditated.
Whatever happened under lockdowns cannot possibly excuse or justify these murders.
Seems Nathaniel Train was intensely frustrated by how the education system was failing Aboriginal students, leading to a heart attack and a spiral of depression, and had finally fallen in with his full blown nutter brother’s plans.
Ranga
The cunt is like a monkey on my back. He’s just an oppositional lowlife loser with nothing to add to any discussion.
Imagine how big a wanker he is self describing as Labor Royalty and then defending it.
Wow.
More “egg spurts”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_abuse_allegations_made_through_facilitated_communication
Excellent point.
Nathanael Train was a Voice extremist, no?
There was apparently no conspiracy theory out there that Gareth Train didn’t lovingly grasp with both hands.
Some people are nuts, internet just gives them a bigger audience.
I read a few of the online responses to his post at Cairns news, a couple of people were going back to the day of the Jack Chick tract when they shared their conspiracies via pamphlet.
..and to those that don’t want to be inclusive of whites or migrants, or sit down during the national anthem, please don’t be like that, after all, we’re all in this together.
One other thing ranga.
I was having a very nice, fruitful conversation with the stoopid thought leadership and Mr Yellowstone had to join in. The idiot wants to reintroduce car making in Australia with high tariff walls and quotas no less , thereby impoverishing us.
He makes up all sorts of nonsense because he’s a delusional imbecile so I suggested he should start a car manufacturing plant. He could end up becoming Arky Musk. I mean it’s not as though he’s gainfully employed at the moment I’m guessing.
Given that the quest for compo is long standing, it almost seems like the criminal case was pursued to bolster the compensation case.
Jack Chick eh?
An anti Catholic nutter as well.
Monty write up a section in Cooker Pedia that they are anti Catholic bigots and demanded that George Pell was murdered in prison. You’ll have to include swathes of the Greens and ALP vote herds too.
JC by the time you get to my age you will realise what a waste of neurons arguing with people you disagree with. Sarcasm in a light hearted manner is good for oneself but you’ve got too much invested in this. Have another bet with munty, it’ll put things into perspective. People like munty and special ed offer nothing, just perpetual wrongology and the road rager is just that. The rest here have something to say that makes me think a little more whether I agree with them doesn’t matter. All of us (or you lot) have something to say. For your own sake JC let it go. It’s not about winning or losing.
Dot the Cairns News post by Gareth Train was all about a Worldwide Jesuit Cabal with a healthy dash of Freemasons.
Was other commentators who claimed Alberto Rivera was an ex Jesuit etc. One was even planning to find out if Dominic Perrottet attended confession because that was some sort of tell.
You read the comments and are grateful none of the people are known to you outside the online world.
And yet, when he was merely a missing person, the ABC had him as:
He identifies as, looks like…but no longer fits the bill.
Ranga
It’s actually fun beating up these morons. At least once a week I get the ax handle and give Sal Dutton a whack across tue back of the head.
He likes it.
Then you have that imbecile thought leadership explaining why we need car making here in Oz with massive tariffs and quotas. Just imagine the fucking the abortion this would create.
JC you’re right about car manufacturing. Worldwide its a subsidy harvesting scam. These days cars are full of junk. For all the advancement in design people can’t drive any better, they just don’t die in crashes so much. Son just brought a new Subaru, traded in his old car that he ran into the ground. Got more for it than he paid for it by a lot.
apparently their father Ronald Archie Train has written an account of their family genealogy which might settle their claims re aboriginality. Available at the National Library.
It begins.
French Industrial Plant Wrecked by 200-Strong Eco-Mob Cutting Cables and Starting Fires (13 Dec)
“The attack took place on Saturday at an industrial plant belonging to the French cement giant Lafarge in Bouc-Bel-Air, a small community located just north of the city of Marseille.
Various sources claim anywhere between a hundred and two hundred eco-extremists stormed the industrial facility. Within fifteen minutes, the mob smashed offices and workshops, set construction machinery on fire, and severed electrical cables, broadcaster BFMTV reports.
On Sunday, Lafarge released a statement saying the extremists had caused “Very significant damage,” to facilities, buildings and vehicles and labelled the attack as “unprecedented violence.”
A far-left French website took credit for the attack, claiming that the industrial plant is one of the “biggest polluters and producers of CO2 in the country.”
This makes me think the power substation attacks across the USA are probably the work of eco-terrorists rather than others, since these people coordinate worldwide.
If the French authorities don’t go hard they will ramp up attacks. And I can’t see the lefty Macron government going hard against their own side.
Central Qld interests me. My grandmother’s grandfather was Billy Fraser of the Hornet Bank massacre. Not that we knew until we did some ancestry research. We only know what’s been published like everyone else. Grandmother died in 1929.
Now we note that makka had to deal with deeply delusional denialists with zero perspective last night.
Calli and motherlodes crocodile tears for members of a stasi force who’s behavior was so disgraceful that 500 plus Australians are dying every week from their tyrannical thuggery.
Where’s their tears for those dead?
They never mention them, the sick fucks.
Police wear a uniform.
It’s a sign they belong to the group.
If you were a member of the KKK and you saw them stringing up a “nig.ger”…would you keep your KKK uniform and hood on or would you quit the organization?
If AnAl’s magic bullet for controlling energy prices is putting a cap on prices .. why then did he not “cap” iceberg lettuce pricing before they spiralled to $12.50 each? ..
not mentioning .. Brussel Sprouts ..!
Speaking as one who has a real life, no duff entry in ‘Cookerpedia’, do I sense a tiny tinge of jealousy?
It hardly needs repeating to those here, but all price caps do is convert high prices into supply shortages.
Good.
One of the disadvantages of being a lunatic prepper who believes everything they read in the deepest recesses of the Daily Expose and Zeee Media is that you start to believe your own press. This is magnified if your nuffiness is at such a level that you can’t interact in society any more and you need to hole up on rural acreage.
The mentality that everyone and everything is out to get you, and that Big Government is personally invested in you because you’ve discovered The Big Secrets (on the internet) is usually full of comedy value. The slightest interruption of internet service, for example, prompts loud calls of ‘Here it comes!’ and/or ‘What’s happening. Is it starting?’
This was particularly funny coming from notables like srsrrss and a couple of others, seen here in full majesty. St. Ruth’s belief that he was considered a national security threat is of course a close second.
Government does not care about the little people as individuals. Not one whit. But – if you make it your business to only interact within your own little conspiracy sphere (or begin seriously overrating yourself), then of course you’ll start believing that the black helicopters are only just over the horizon and coming just for you because you Know Too Much.
This belief system also supplies overconfidence – specifically, that because you’ve managed to shoot a couple of jacks new enough to still have the wrapping on from a hiding place, that you’ll be able to do the same to a pile of other, better-equipped jacks intent on taking you down instead of just making sure you’re alive – which was the original intent.
As evidence of said overconfidence I give you the ballistic windscreen of the Bearcat still on the property, which has a number of round marks in its centre-right, of which none got through and it wouldn’t have mattered if they did because it’s a left hand drive arrangement anyway.
What are the odds?
That CO2 is fatal to an evil race of aliens* who want to take over the world.
First they must eliminate the CO2.
* they may already be in govt. disguised as humans.
The fact that the same people rely heavily on *the internet* and about everything else provided by Big Capital Big Telecommunications Big Pharma Big Medicine Big Public Service* and Big Welfare tells you much about their rugged independence.
*All three Trains former or current public servants
What happen will only justify cops dressing up like paramilitary to do house calls.
If you were a truck driver and you saw ‘one of your own’ laying a grogan the size of a Sherrin outside a Hay roadhouse, would you keep your jeans on or would you quit the organisation?
Brussel Sprouts rule. Okay.
Bring on WW3 there is no other way forward.
Brussels | After all-night negotiations, the European Union struck a political deal on Tuesday to impose a carbon dioxide emissions tariff on imports of polluting goods such as steel and cement, a world-first scheme aiming to support European industries as they decarbonise.
Negotiators from EU countries and the European Parliament reached a deal at around 5am local time in Brussels, on the law to impose CO2 emissions
I see that the Albo government has decided to hand wads of cash to Brittany.
Now it is Bruce’s turn, since the decision by the decision to give Brittany money would essentially be tacitly broadcasting that they think the rape occurred and therefore he is a rapist.
Ranga
Imagine setting up a car plant and the parasitical unions turning it into captured capital. They’d end up eating it very quickly.
You are a fuckwit Ranga
It’s not about winning or losing with you because you never win.
They’re already dressed like that bespoke. It’s certainly overreach in most cases, but the fact is that in the vast majority of circumstances they don’t know what they’re walking into.
Just because someone rang the cops and said ‘can you check on my old uncle because I haven’t seen him for a week at this address’ doesn’t necessarily mean that the caller is honest, and that there won’t be a nasty surprise waiting for them.
The jacks do hundreds of these jobs every week. Can you check on X. Unfortunately for the two dead coppers, the big wheel spun and spun as it does for every job of this type, and their names came up. It really is a ‘you could get hit by a bus tomorrow’ thing.
By which I mean he should sue the government for defamation.
Hyundais are actually very good now. Trouble with Subarus is those rotten CVT transmissions
Australian Toyotas were very good too
… and all the come-ons from other lesbians when you park the Subaru outside the Farmers’ Market
I have 2 comments on this post. 1. aint global warming great? 2. This is where we are going soon.
UK power prices have hit record levels as an icy cold snap and a fall in supplies of electricity generated by wind power have combined to push up wholesale costs.
The day-ahead price for power for delivery on Monday reached a record £675 a megawatt-hour on the Epex Spot SE exchange. The price for power at 5-6pm, typically around the time of peak power demand each day, passed an all-time high of £2,586 a megawatt-hour.
Prices are surging as the weather forces Britons to increase their heating use, pushing up demand for energy, despite high bills.
You’re sounding all bitter and twisted KD…..and so long winded with it.
Thinking the Jesuits are pulling the levers still doesn’t account for the hate of police.
Perhaps every interaction these men had with authority and government was negative when they thought they were seeking to achieve good which built up to an extreme frustration and finally the action.
Outside theories or politics would reinforce the paranoia but the root cause is always found in the individual.
They didn’t belong to some great religious group or any organised political movement for support and cover. No one was selling them arms or providing funding for terrorist training.
No lone wolves here as all three developed this hatred of authority. Why?
I’m not so sure. I’m still puzzled as to what the cause of action actually is – presumably some tortuous employment law try on. And any payout be diminished by Brittany’s contribution on the night. As with everything about the case you feel the law is not even a back seat driver, not that anyone is listening anyway. Always liked to be the case where the complainant is hawking a dossier around the media before making a police complaint. Grubby from go to whoa. And like Brittany on the couch we are in the dark.
Nambas, the EU putting tariffs on carbondioxidising imports isn’t all bad, it’s going some way to applying the cackhanded crippling conditions of doing business in a greens-captured world on to third world producers.
It should go without saying that the extra money being screwed out of consumers will go into the maw of the administrative state, and have about as much effect on the third world’s use of cheap fossil fuels as the effect which the Jellyby west has had on third world labour exploitation.
Cassie, Labor looked after their own in this instance as well. Just because Brittney was employed by a Liberal government doesn’t mean that’s who she worked for or how she voted. She was paid for services rendered, bringing the LNP government into disrepute.
Sounds like the Train brothers were regular common-or-garden “stand (or fall if necessary)” loonies.
Preppers and truthers.
Iodine hoarders.
It will be interesting to see who, or what, was their inspiration.
Meanwhile, the Albanese/Chalmers budget included funding for activists to pursue gas companies in court to prevent new developments.
One might reasonably conclude that Elbow & Co. are not being entirely honest with the Australian people.
When you fly over the brigalow scrub where the shootings took place it reveals as desperately marginal country.
‘Fringe’ country physically and probably socially occupied by small holders scratching a living somehow.
It is telling that this was an area where the Greens were very successful with their “shut the gate” anti-CSG campaigns.
As a non-scientific observation, it looks like country where conspiracy theories would reign.
Conversely, my daughter was in business for a while with two families from this area breeding ponies. They were solid folk: tree changers, not escapist hillbillies.
Some neighbours however were scary looking folks with big nasty looking dogs.
First, Lehman is a white straight male therefore no mercy for him. Second, he may actually have been working for his employers so of course he is guilty.
Now that Brittney is in the money Lehman should sue her as well. Make her spend it all on lawyers.
Vicplod dimness giving us s word wall of psychoanalysis. …..never silence them while they expose their dumb biases.
Yes the anal ‘government’ is pulling all stops out to wreck the economy. That’s what happens when you put campus marx ists in charge.
Ah yes, bad experiences with CVTs and DSGs mean ‘real slushbox’ or better still manual is a go/nogo checkbox when buying a car
Albo and his socialist regime has declared the world price for energy a conspiracy theory that can only be countered with an artificial price cap.
The cabinet is now working on a perpetual motion machine to drive down energy prices.
What happen will only justify cops dressing up like paramilitary to do house calls.
They’re already dressed like that bespoke.
Yes, indeedy. The amount of LARP straps, tools and pouches on your workaday plod as they waddle the streets in search of a tray of takeaways to stash back in their Kia Stingers is ridiculous. Particularly as KD observed in Perf, they seem wholly unable to do the entry-level engagement of the cop on the beat, and tell the scary derroes to pipe down or bugger off.
Ah yes, bad experiences with CVTs and DSGs mean ‘real slushbox’ or better still manual is a go/nogo checkbox when buying a car
Manual is OK if you do lots of country driving. Auto is nice around town. The traditional auto is now computer controlled along with throttle by wire. They work well. Trouble is a lot of manufacturers have gone to CVT to meet CAFE requirements. Avoid.
Sancho of the slip lane trying to blame the killing of cops by two left wing Christian hating , aboriginal identifying sickos on me.
Almost worth a trip down to Victoria to sort him out.
The Brunson Supreme Court timeline
https://www.newstreason.com/post/supreme-court-brunson-v-alma-s-adams-et-al-case-summary-and-timeline
The Australian Deep State in action.
I don’t believe in coincidences of the magnitude we see in this circumstance.
We’re just coming out of a multi-year period of significant government over-reach. You’d want some pretty sound contrary evidence to deny a connection, especially given the online rants.
When you stretch the social fabric to limits never before seen, don’t be surprised when a couple of threads snap.
Get yours now! Free from the government!
The CDC just approved boosters for babies, for a strain of the virus that is extinct, just two days after Pfizer submitted its application. No, this is not merely experimenting on babies for a strain that is not dangerous for a broader virus that never clinically affected babies. We know exactly what these shots do to people — or at least the part we already know is not good. A new Rasmussen survey now shows that 7% of people experienced “major” side effects from a COVID jab, perfectly coinciding with numerous other data points, including the CDC’s own pharmacovigilance system.
According to the recent survey of 1,000 U.S. adults, 7% reported experiencing “major” side effects, 34% reported minor side effects, and 56% reported no side effects. That means that in the U.S alone, if this survey is representative of the broader population, 12 million people experienced major side effects, and at least 71 million experienced minor side effects.
Yes if you must have an auto go for a torque converter one. Hyundai is also one of the few manufacturers who still seem to be happy to sell you a manual.
On top of 5 or 6 decades of relentless growth of the regulatory state…
Some humans enjoy being domesticated, others dont.
quite the author:
https://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Search/Home?lookfor=author:%22Train%2C%20Ronald%20A.%20%28Ronald%20Archie%29%22&iknowwhatimean=1
Gareth Train claimed to be a Christian.
A big one
Bingo!
Their father, as Duncanm confirms, is a published Christian theologian and Baptist minister.
I get the snapping but someone holed up on a bush block in the middle of nowhere Queensland snapped in December 2022 because of Victorian police brutality in 2020 and 2021?
That’s a stretch.
indeed. And two of them were employed in public schools by the state.
This was a National event, and police are seen as the agents of the government.
People’s movement around their country was limited by all states. The particular nuances of restrictions within each state is largely irrelevant to some people.
Not a stretch at all.
What you think is irrelevant. You obviously don’t think like these people…or you’d be out shooting police, too.
Have to go to Canberra today to wind up a family probate matter (my own family…sad).
It will be snowing, most likely tomorrow.
A white Christmas in Australia?
I love this global warming.
Typical ignorant Parochial rosie.
How dare you!
I only come here for the fracas.
Best ones around.
Thanks for the advice, Ranga. I may not follow it, but appreciate it all the same. 🙂
If the terms and amount of the settlement with Britnah is to be confidential between the two parties then the commonwealth government has agreed it will knowingly deceive the the taxpayers of Australia and Auditor General’s Office is to be compromised by this undertaking.
You would hope the opposition pursues this as it is a gross breach of faith with the electorate and a shameless repudiation of good governance.
Global warming true believers are cookers and cranks who should be shitcanned from official positions and polite society.
Snow less than two weeks from Christmas.
Yep, it’s because we use chemistry to cook, warm and fuel modernity.
The same spacktards then want to blanket ban nukes. Whilst China and India simply build so much coal fired power what the west does is irrelevant.
Global warming cooking is the one true religion of the leftist cathedral.
This snow in December seems to run on a 20 year cycle. I remember the same in Blackheath in 2002?
Someone with no CTE please advise.
I think it’s illegal to be making threats over the internet in Australia.
I don’t reckon the remote bush breeds lunatics in any number, that distinction is enjoyed by cities.
Kinda funny coming from a redneck Queerslander.
Anti-police sentiment and violence has been on the rise for some time in Western countries as government authoritarianism has increased, making liberal demcoracies more closely resemble illiberal regimes who have always had to resort to force to repress dissent.
Police are the arm of state that discontented people with legitimate grievances or manufactured ones will often focus on as representative of the state and have dealings with.
Government responses to covid exacerbated already existing anti-authoritarian sentiments.
The AUS/NZ Policing Advisory Group has already predicted (in 2020) that the “New World Disorder” and “The Great Covid Recession” (their precise terms) will further stretch the social fabric and present the biggest challenge to police in this decade. They recommended a return to “community policing” to de-escalate tensions and rebuild trust with communities.
The lazy solution would be the further militarisation of police.
I mentioned this yesterday. A copper got out of a SUV marked as Critical Response. He had all the regalia including gun, bullet proof vest and all sorts of crap attached to his attire. He looked like he was going to war going to get a coffee.
Quick JC!
Hide the St.Ignatius Loyola portrait. It’s a dead giveaway.
the better question is why so few, given the relentless nudging, lying, gaslighting, enforced compliance and destruction of wealth.
Dot, I am around an hour and a half’s drive from Canberra. I have just lit the fire.
If you run into any problems, send up a flare, or a Bat signal. 😉
Sadly this is now all too apparent – the ‘Protect and Serve’ idea that is found in all police mottos needs to be changed to ‘Protect and Serve the State’.
I hope that every police officer who was complicit in the atrocities the state committed on the citizens over the last several years now realises that their jobs, already difficult and even dangerous at times, will be FOREVER more difficult and more dangerous because of what they did.
Explain, Gez.
entirely engineered by reserve banks, which they can blame on enemies of one world totalitarian government
Excess long term sickness
Dr. John Campbell
And perhaps overconfident? There is a concept in safety engineering called the ‘risk compensation hypothesis’ which says: if you make people feel safer, they take more risks.
Plod would be wise to realise the following before assuming their toys and trinkets make them invulnerable:
1 nothing is bullet proof – only bullet resistant
2 Standard issue police ‘soft armour’ will not stop a rifle bullet (or even a blade or arrow at times)
3 You cannot cover the entire body in armour – there are always areas to hit
4 A determined attacker who is prepared to give up his own life in exchange for the shot has a good chance of getting close enough to do so = think Reagan, Abe, Archduke Ferdinand etc etc etc
5 The most dangerous animal on the planet is a human who has nothing left to lose
Struth is hunting you down.
Remove the concrete lions from the entrance and turn turn off the front fountain.
I would look to the parents, specifically the dad.
I have often thought that certain Cats are acting out trauma from their childhoods. Or maybe they’re just dickheads because they want to be.
Gez, I think you’ll find the NT is full of anti-social hermits on remote bush blocks. Many of them are from other jurisdictions and chose the NT for its remoteness. Some of them are Vietnam war veterans.
I would also suggest this has been going on for the past 150 years after we ceased being a penal colony.
Remoteness from the civilised world is one of our national characteristics. It’s in the geography.
Not possible when people make excuses for the nutters.
As KD pointed out.
Maybe someone can assist but I fail to see how their father being a published Christian is in anyway, shape or form relevant to the Queensland shooting?
You’ll be on the news later for offending Gaia. How dare you burn a wood fire, you monster.
Every stem is sacred!
His threat was directed to Sanchez – not me.
flyingduksays:
December 14, 2022 at 8:32 am
If AnAl’s magic bullet for controlling energy prices is putting a cap on prices .. why then did he not “cap” iceberg lettuce pricing before they spiralled to $12.50 each? ..
not mentioning .. Brussel Sprouts ..!
It hardly needs repeating to those here, but all price caps do is convert high prices into supply shortages.
Perhaps Luigi the unbelievable could have a gander at Vietnams price controlled servos for a hint.
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/commodities/gas-shortage-vietnam-stations-close-refinery-issues-price-controls-2022-11
He cited the high rate of exchange for foreign currency needed to buy gas imports and a lack of access to that currency to make payments.
At the same time, fuel distributors have had their profits squeezed in the face of government price controls, given they’ve been unable to pass on rising costs to the consumer, Nikkei Asia reported. That’s minimized the incentive to supply gas stations.
In effect the government set the price at the pump for distributors, in this case the price doesnt cover the cost of the fuel being supplied…
Any way ffs
Black Ball
The weirdo anti Catholic Jack Chick stuff.
I thought I found a perfect trad wife candidate (no she isn’t a doctor) when I went back to uni, until she blurted out some fundie nonsense about Catholics not being Christians. She went to a baptist church. No joke she lost her shoes at res school so she got nicknamed “Cindy”.
Um yeah LOL okay I can really see a church wedding working out. My family would drink until the leprechauns came out with the shillelaghs and “Cindy”’s family would be compelling the demons out of us.
Catholics still face a lot of ignorant bigotry. It has been called in America (until they went woke) “the last acceptable prejudice”.
“I would look to the parents, specifically the dad.”
Yes, good advice, always applicable when an adherent of the religion of pieces hacks people to death, mows people down in a car/van or plants bombs to murder as many people as possible.
Let’s be honest. The institutions suck.
“Maybe someone can assist but I fail to see how their father being a published Christian is in anyway, shape or form relevant to the Queensland shooting?”
Indeed
Black Ball, it gives Australia governments and their state and federal police forces an extra excuse for their current, anti-Christian pogrom.
rosiesays:
December 14, 2022 at 7:50 am
Whatever problem the Train brothers and wife had with authority, the killing of their neighbour was even further beyond the pale.
Seems to me they were expecting a police visit and the killings were premeditated.
Whatever happened under lockdowns cannot possibly excuse or justify these murders.
Seems Nathaniel Train was intensely frustrated by how the education system was failing Aboriginal students, leading to a heart attack and a spiral of depression, and had finally fallen in with his full blown nutter brother’s plans.
I look forward to Lidia Thorpe’s insights. The right wing conspiracist cap has evaporated; and the BLM and 3rd nations activists headbands are looking to settle; so the media will cover this up as quickly as possible and all we will hear will be brave cops and ban all guns from them.
monty still refuses to tackle the violent Aboriginal separatist issue.
Here’s the relevant act, Gez.
If you take what the redneck has posted over the past few years, Sanchez has a reasonable case.
They could start by not assuming every citizen is a nutter o rpotential criminal and tailor their dealings with them accordingly.
The real barrier to this happening is reactionary Commissioners who think the citizenry is the enemy backed up by governments with a taste for authoritarianism.
The more they go down this path the worse it gets, I’m afraid.
Sorry about that JC.
He’s coming to VIC though and might go for the daily double.
Sanchez is safe.
He has a bunker stocked with tinned peaches and beef jerky plus his collection of Pix magazines to thumb through.
No probs Gez.
Wow Dot, how are you still single. What a catch you are.
Is that how you think the Train brothers should be labelled? Did they mention their race as being the reason they mowed down those coppers? Or is that just a figment of your imagination.
surely that is the aim, with cries of accelerating transition to renewbulls to fix the problem
what gets me is that even in this morning’s OT
the anti-conspiracy theorists seem to have decided that the shooters/shootees
must be deranged left/right, cooker/troofer tin-foil-hat wearing preppers
… all without a hint or irony.
pretty sure we will never know what really went on.
you can bet yr arse though, that the polis are not simply innocent victims
No-one said the fact that their father was a retired minister had anything to do with the shootings.
He was mentioned, initially because there is apparently a msm dispute about the family’s claim to aboriginal heritage and he has published a family genealogy available in the national library that could settle that, one way or another.
Subsequently someone claimed that the Trains were not Christians, don’t know about Nathaniel but Gareth Train has stated publically that he is (see thread at Michael Smith News on around 18 to 20 September 2020) which is probably supported by him being raised in the home of a Christian minister, just as general background.
I get the snapping but someone holed up on a bush block in the middle of nowhere Queensland snapped in December 2022 because of Victorian police brutality in 2020 and 2021?
That’s a stretch.
Strangely enough it appears the covid crapfest did lead to a big influx of new arrivals in the area. many of whom were probably victims of the governments “we must smash the individual to save society” approach.
Wieambilla shooting: the draw of ‘the blocks’, where a wave of arrivals has landed since the pandemic
Obscured by scrub and trees, residents say it’s nearly impossible to know what neighbours are up to
Theme song for the government/ ‘concerned people”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04qPdGNA_KM
Most of the gates to the bush blocks of Wieambilla, roughly halfway between the towns of Tara and Chinchilla in Queensland’s western downs region, carry warning signs.
Some warn of dogs and firearms. Some of the consequences against unauthorised entry. One simply reads “Keep Out”.
Land here is cheap and parcelled into relatively small blocks compared to the large crop plantations on the rich soil to the east, and the sprawling cattle stations to the west. So, over the years, Wieambilla has become a mecca for an assortment of people seeking to retire cheap, live alternative lifestyles or drop out – trends accelerated by a new wave of arrivals since the pandemic.*
…
“A lot has changed since all this Covid bullshit,” Smit says. “A lot of people have bought up blocks to get away from all the madness happening in the city. There’s a lot of new faces in town.”
Smit meets many of them as they seek temporary accommodation while they look for land of their own. He also knows them from the “support group” he runs for those who refused to be vaccinated against Covid.
“There’s been a split come over the town since all the discrimination shit, when they decided to lock people out of pubs for not being jabbed,” he says.
While restrictions have eased, Smit still simmers. Some people have long memories, he says.
“What the pub and bowls club did to us, I’ll never set foot in there again,” Smit says.
His group still holds regular meetings and guest talks. He can’t recall on the spot the names of the guest speakers.
“One was a lady who was a nurse for 40 years who had seen all the damage done,” Smit said.
“Another was a guy with legal experience. I don’t know if he was a lawyer or had worked in the law, but he told us about our rights.”
As well as hosting meetings for like-minded locals, he and wife Tracey have set up a community garden called Turning Point in the main street of town. Above it looms a large black sign, thick with hand-painted white messages.
“How did democracy turn into dictatorship?” one reads. “Say NO or it never ends.”
Flags flutter above it: “the People’s Revolution” and “Mandate Freedom”.
They are replacements for less provocative ones, Smit says.
“A few people didn’t take too kindly to us having upside down flags,” he says.
*”Drop out” a nice euphemism for “fucked by the government/ lost business/job etc
Nice how the article goes straight for the anti-vaxer angle despite it having nothing to do 9as reported so far anyway) with the shootings.
did the cops even try to call the property first?
these people look like they just wanted to be left alone. They weren’t exactly scheming violent overthrow of a morally bankrupt government
What is your BMI monty?
Not at all. However, people like you and a couple of other mentally disturbed individuals shouldn’t allowed near guns. I’d say there would be about 8 of you here.
Objective reality:
They were Aboriginal.
They were separatists.
Some people prefer evidence.
Gareth Train’s thoughts are available at a number of websites including a guest post at Cairns News.
If we can’t draw some inferences from what people say about themselves, and their actions, what is there, other than some pseudo intellectual mumbo jumbo?
Yes, that would explain the sudden snap of a 44 year old, previously respected school principal.
Between three years of Covid response, and the (completely fabricated by Monty) childhood issues, the childhood issues clearly better explain why a bloke might turn on police.
You are an ocean going dill, Monty. Stick with fantasy football, as real life seems beyond your ken.
I would have thought his published ‘inferences’ point directly at what we are saying.
Oh it’s Monty blaming the dad.
Is that how you think the Train brothers should be labelled? Did they mention their race as being the reason they mowed down those coppers? Or is that just a figment of your imagination.
You were quick out of the blocks with your right wing/conspiracist/cooker bullshit.
Incidentally, what is your BMI; and are you and the milkman on good terms.
So do I.
Struth,
QldPlod employed a very very light touch compared to other states (please provide footage of QPlod doing anything the Vicplod or NSWplod did during the lockdowns).
The difference in attitude to NSWplod was chalk and cheese it was obvious when we moved out of Greater Sydney to Qld at the height of lockdowns in both states. The coppers at the airport and hotel quarantine were apologetic and professional, unlike the arrogant arseholes we encountered in our travels from the Central Coast to the airport (Wyong Station, Central Station (the arsehole senior Sergeant did not look happy when I asked to pull his mask up over his nose and wear it properly if he was going to talk to me, but he did comply with the request), the lobby of our hotel, George St when we went to find some food, and finally outside the airport ).
When were released from hotel quarantine and the DiL collected us from the station, despite lockdowns (it was the Indooroopilly cluster lockdown to give a sense of timing) QPlod exercised commonsense and let her drive outside the permitted area to get us. Had it been NSW, she would have copped a massive fine, and been turned around.
Oh , but what about the baby that died you say? Nope that was QldHealth in general and the office of the CHO in particular, the QPlod had nothing to do with issuing exemptions/approvals, so Drs, nurses and clerks deserve to be shot down like dogs?
What about the Qld border wall you ask? Using your argument,it should also be open season on members of the ADF and SES even though they were not even members of those organisations during the lockdowns, because, guess what,they also helped man the border wall(s), yes NSW and Vic had them as well, and the hotel quarantine system.
My experience too Diogenes.
I’m pretty sure I should have been directed into two weeks quarantine when I crossed the Qld border in May 2020 but I was waved on to my family with kindness.
Ahahahahaa. A couple of Dark ‘N’ Stormies for mornos and the man-boobs start puffing out.
On the landline, you mean?
And where they could be sure the bloke who answered it was the bloke they wanted to talk to?
ACA tried that smear, but showed a post from the( ex pastor) father ages ago saying they had not been in contact for 23 years
Then they tried the Latham “gave him a voice” smear, as Latham read out the emails he sent re NAPLAN cheating to the parliament.
Herald Sun is citing methyl amphetamine use as one factor.
On Boxing Day 2004 we stopped overnight in Thredbo on our way to Melbourne. The next morning there was a two inch snow cover in the village.
BTW, it was the same day as the Thailand/Indonesia tsunami.
Left wing vultures spin story of a tragic waste of life.
Offender turns out to be violent left wing, black nationalist and anti Catholic lunatic.
Oh dear!
He wanted to be governed harder and got what he asked for.
Oh dear! How long will it take the cathedral to write more copy? Oh look, there’s Santa on the RAAF Pube Gap radar!
LOL
Pine
Best autocorrect error ever.
Zippy,
A welfare check means actually sighting the person and seeing all is well. Let’s say you were concerned that your child located in another state was suicidal. They phone them, “no I’m fine” as he/she are standing on the chair with noose around his/ her neck /blood pooling around them. You would be pretty pissed off because they didn’t actually sight them to make sure they were fine.
These Doctors Pushed Masking, Covid Lockdowns On Twitter. Turns Out They Don’t Exist
Curious.
Dover do you have a blocker against links to Rumble?
Gee, the Hornet Bank massacre happened just 200km from Wieambilla.
wait wait! lets check the feelz: hmmm feelz like far right, faux abos!
flyingduk
5 The most dangerous animal on the planet is a human who has nothing left to lose
The leftards who generally exercise authority in western societies have forgotten one of their own slogans from the 1960s/1970s.
“When you’ve got nothing, you’ve got nothing to lose”.
Ain’t Karma a bitch?
I have often thought that certain Cats are acting out trauma from their childhoods. Or maybe they’re just dickheads because they want to be.
Enough about you, m0nty=fa, tell us more about cookers and sovcits. And their relationship with the indigenous Voice.
What’s monty done this time?
The trauma would have happened when they were kids, of course.
I’m a bit perplexed by why the girl police officer who escaped to the bush was texting people on her phone rather than using her Glock.
Thank you Dot, Tom, Cassie and Rosie for their response.
So is Monty using their father, who has been pointed out a Christian, as the excuse as to why this happened, and who didn’t have contact for 2 decades with each other?
ABC sports report from the World Cup.
Morocco is the popular underdog because it represents Africa, Arabs and the Muslim world.
I’d like them to go well but for none of those reasons. It’s football not the UN.
They could have been anywhere. You don’t have to go far in marginal farming country where land can be bought or leased cheaply to come across some “interesting” types. When he was about my old man had a few pigs “agisted” on another place. We went round there one day. Over half a dozen kids running around, probably unknown to the local school. Eventually they grow up and drift off, some with marketable skills, some not. And the cycle repeats itself.
Dotsays:
December 14, 2022 at 10:26 am
monty still refuses to tackle the violent Aboriginal separatist issue.
He can’t tackle it until the people who conjure up the talking points work out how to handle it. This could take some time.
Presumably because it was dark and she was under fire from an unknown number of people with rifles. I have never been shot at and clearly neither have you.
Flags flutter above it: “the People’s Revolution” and “Mandate Freedom”.
Now that the leftards have become the reactionary establishment (h/t m0nty=fa), they are appalled by signs mentioning “the People’s Revolution” and “Freedom”. How quickly the facade of loving care dropped!
No, but I know Rumble is not well-supported on some platforms. Custard, the video on the Arizona Election Contest is from Rumble so I’m not sure what might be blocking it in the comments. Email me the link And I’ll see if I can get it through.
Not wanting to second guess her, but it could be that she was out of effective range and firing would have revealed her location.
Tuesday evenings usually feature a minor degree of tension in this household.
The cause is SBS’s ‘Who Do You Think You Are’ program.
The dearest disagrees with me that it is nothing more than thinly disguised promotion of lefties who are always the subject of the program.
The Cash Cow, the Pirate, “Thank You Kerry”, and endless journo and actor lefties.
I refuse to watch it and retire to another room.
But last night they exceeded even their standard of blatant political corruption – Turnbull!
Even my dearest hit the red button.
very true
That is a fair excuse for a civilian but you expect police to have had sufficient training to deal with being under fire.
It is a valid line of investigation for Plod, who no doubt will follow it up. The truth will out.
All possibilities are still in play, of course. It looks on early evidence that this was a descent into madness, something where no one escapes blame for not trying hard enough to stop it, but ultimately the responsibility lies on the heads of the murderers so no one is going to be happy with the outcome.
It was 4.30 pm.
Your chivalry is very sweet but I’m wondering why a ‘trained’ police officer armed with a semi-automatic pistol never returned fire. It’s a legitimate question.
I would like Morocco to do well enough to beat the French then the Argentines can beat them in the grand final. But that just me.
C.L., was she the most recent recruit?
I believe she had only been on the force for eight weeks, and after seeing two people shot and having very little practical experience panic was likely very natural.
Black Ballsays:
December 14, 2022 at 11:07 am
Thank you Dot, Tom, Cassie and Rosie for their response.
So is Monty using their father, who has been pointed out a Christian, as the excuse as to why this happened, and who didn’t have contact for 2 decades with each other?
m0nty=fa is a sleazebag who will fudge and manipulate words to support his gross political prejudices. Despite claiming to be Catholic, he demonstrates strong anti-Christian prejudices in many of his comments. Treat him with the contempt he thoroughly deserves.
One pistol against three rifles?
Perplexion .. and the female police officer
Just maybe, and it’s just a maybe, she was frightened out of her wits
Should these young women be police officers? I don’t think so
because she was outgunned and outmanned.
She acted prudently.
Still like to know what weapons the pseudo Abos had to send a “hail of bullets” in the direction of the 4
Wow! Great news. Everyone who opposes war and wants Ukrainians to keep the lights on will naturally applaud this decision.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/13/politics/us-patriot-missile-defense-system-ukraine/index.html
Great big flaw in that theory. Without CO2 there would be no life on earth, plant or animal. So, unless the evil race of aliens wants to inhabit a barren wasteland, their unscrupulous plot will not work.
With the proviso that our current rulers (and I use that word advisedly) quite possibly display less humanity than actual aliens.
No, it is not true that QLD plod adopted a lighter touch.
They threw relatives out of hospitals, invaded funeral services, constantly harassed venues, acted as border gestapo thugs and handed out massive fines with abandon.
The only difference was that there were no street demonstrations as venues for them to display their inner fascist.
I am in Brisbane.
Walked the dog this morning at a local park. On the open area near the dog off leash area were three police officers practising flying a drone.
Better late than never.
Chivalry has nothing to do with it. Nor training. It was a question of firepower. As was demonstrated when the TRG and the bearcat rolled up. At best any officer could have stopped them leaving the building. Nice ad hom by the way.
It is a valid line of investigation for Plod, who no doubt will follow it up. The truth will out.
All possibilities are still in play, of course.
Except for the Aboriginal Separatist one, which you have already rejected out of hand?
You hypocritical, pompous, idiot.
Interesting thread.
Ed will be along any minute to tell us (again) that war veterans shouldn’t be employed as Police Officers.
What are raw numbers?
I chatted with one of the other dog owners at the park this morning. They talked about the tragedy, and raised a number of questions about the police handling of the situation, which sort of surprised me as I usually expect people to parrot what they’ve “heard on the ABC”. We agreed that there did seem to have been something learnt from the Man Monis incident in that there was no messing about by the police SERT in the end.
LOL
Yeah, righty o!
Only if the truth fits.
ACA tried that smear, but showed a post from the( ex pastor) father ages ago saying they had not been in contact for 23 years
The trauma would have happened when they were kids, of course.
Can Monty of malmo go for a generic “well they must have been traumatized by their Christian father because’,… smear.
Why yes the jabbasexual can.
Labor have achived their ultimate goal
Govt control (in effect) of the ASX.
Now, in conjunction with Labor’s program of diverting investors’ dividends to unionists, they can (and will) make investing an impossibly complex proposition.
Next step, ACTU appointees to the ASX Board.
Update with Rumble Link: Watch the Covid-19 mRNA Vaccine Accountability Roundtable.
maxwell’s demonizing
Exactly. Training isn’t going to fix that.
Give Monty some credit.
His language is a helluva lot clearer than that woman splaining, akimbo, psycho social academic expert-speak above.
the vulnerables! the vulnerables! we must save the vulnerables!
Interesting admission from Kiev Independent:
I’m a bit perplexed by why the girl police officer who escaped to the bush was texting people on her phone rather than using her Glock.
She saw the elephant.
No-one can be sure how they will react when they see it.
In serious riots it was the 5’2 lezzo who was beside me while the 7′ ex-bouncer wasnt anywhere to be found till after.
Plus as already mentioned, pistol vs long gun, if its at any distance you are 99% likely to lose.
And we’ll see how we go with the case of libel against sancho of the suck holes JC…..
If I do go down will you need sorting out as well?
they are a liability and should not be in the force at all. they had to lower standards so they could pass the entrance tests
I am still chuckling after Calli’s contribution this morning of the future pluperfect conditional Christmas message. I will send it to my (now ex) Latin tutor.
I can’t remember future pluperfect conditional specifically, but it is the sort of thing we would translate into modern English, with the tutor gently remonstrating that ‘yes, that’s what is meant, but not what is the literal translation’.
Tutor is now an ex, because after six years, she is taking a break next year. I have enjoyed the course, but did underestimate the number of rules of Latin grammar; combined with my ignorance of some basics of English grammar, meant it got quite difficult.
Our last lesson (last week, so still fresh in my mind) included reviewing double datives, including datives of attaction/fear etc. Yes, I said I enjoyed it!
in other words she was useless under pressure
Surely the payment to Miss Higgins will be referred to the new corruption commission by our fearless Liberals.
No?
Oh right , lets just move on.
And:
In the movies, when under fire all the soldiers (especially the US ones) unload everything they have into the nearest shrubbery. The Australian soldiers are trained differently, ie (in most cases) to shoot at things they can see, or at least are very likely to be concealing enemy. Otherwise it’s a waste of ammo you may need later.
The cops are not soldiers. They are trained to shoot at the centre of the seen mass, and to stop a threat.
They are specifically taught the same thing as regular shooters – ie, do not fire at anything you cannot identify and to have an idea if possible of what’s behind your target.
Without being there, but drawing on the inference that there was enough vegetation for the (brand, spanking new) copperette to hide behind, it’s fair to say that there was also enough concealment for the villains. From her point of view it would be reasonable for her to hear BANGBANGBANGBANG followed by two of her colleagues dropping like sacks. If you can’t see the shooters you can’t shoot them back, so into the scrub she went.
Unless there was an expectation somewhere that said villains just walked out into the middle of the driveway and started shooting, and stayed there.
I think raising the alarm and feeding back information about what the responders will face, was probably a more prudent move than drawing attention to herself, and dying valiantly. Probably saved lives.
That said, if a coup de grace was indeed delivered on her colleagues, it would have been very traumatic to witness, and not respond defensively.
It goes without saying, an extremely shitty event all round.
“Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
December 14, 2022 at 11:11 am
‘We were tough, now victimhood is fashionable’: Joanna Lumley”
Joanna stating the exact same thing I posted last night, albeit more politely than I did.
She is awesome.
Whole Beijing is feverish/CCP faces largest rotten tail project: 3-year zero-COVID abruptly exited
China Insights
Attacking the officer who was hunted down by three domestic terrorists is low form for the Cat. Not unusual, but low.
How about the (male) cop who sped away and left her three against one? Any comment on his bravery under fire? Or are you just going to target the female.
She was – and that is really the point I’m making.
Two girls – one 8 weeks out of the academy, the other one (killed) a slip of a little lass – were sent on a heavy job as though no conceivable situation could emerge calling for hard-headed experience and physical strength. That is reckless, stupid policy.
Sorry about that JC.
He’s coming to VIC though and might go for the daily double.
Sanchez is safe.
He has a bunker stocked with tinned peaches and beef jerky plus his collection of Pix magazines to thumb through.
I wouldn’t be too worried. Just have a small truck parked outside with Raj and Dinesh in attendance. The truck will have a driver’s seat with a suspicious looking hinge on the seat with a smell of lamb korma. He won’t come near anyone.
The shooters were probably on ice.