Open Thread – Weekend 7 Jan 2023


Nightly Walk of the Monks to the Mountain Monastery Athos, Hermann Corrodi, 1888


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Cassie of Sydney
January 9, 2023 10:24 pm

“While blasting people is satisfying personally, in most human relations it is best not to do so.”

Thanks for your advice Johanna. Oh and I’ll be more than happy to remind you of your words next time you blast someone here, because after all you have quite a history here at ‘blasting’.

Black Ball
Black Ball
January 9, 2023 10:25 pm

Eddie Synot used to go to school here. Wouldn’t have thought future lawyer type but there you go.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

132andBush says: January 9, 2023 at 10:04 pm
Snap, Sal.

I concede the ground to you however;
You were far more succinct.

132andBush
132andBush
January 9, 2023 10:32 pm

Question for Calli, Johanna or any other Cat gardener.

I was shown a small orchard the other day of approx 1ha in area. Established circa 1890-1900. It’s the original house and buildings on the farm I harvest at near Horsham.

Many large lemon, orange, fig, pear and apple trees all bearing fruit in abundance even though they are not cared for to any great degree.

Original buildings are all there in various states of decay. An amazing time capsule.

Question is how rare would this be wrt the varieties of trees. The oranges are only 2/3 what you get these days but incredibly sweet and the lemons are huge with a very deep rind.

132andBush
132andBush
January 9, 2023 10:38 pm

While blasting people is satisfying personally, in most human relations it is best not to do so.

Screw it, I’m over trying to be “nice” with most of these imbeciles.
Reality will hit them harder (eventually) than I ever will with mere words and scorn.

Cassie of Sydney
January 9, 2023 10:39 pm

“Mme Zulu has announced she’s regained the weight she lost during the chemo and radiation treatment, so that’s a great step forward – she’s also pleasantly surprised on how much she’s saved by giving up smoking….”

Nice to hear Zulu.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 9, 2023 10:45 pm

Rosie,
I have absolutely no problem if you want to continue getting jabs to travel or for whatever reason.
However if you think the programme is over for those who have had enough you are sadly mistaken. The publicity campaign for next booster push is being planned according to Federal Health Minister. I doubt they will be telling us the booster was created 2 years ago and that TGA extended the shelf life of some batches by six months beyond recommended expiry date.

Sadly the huge amount of adverse signals from all around the world are not having impact on our Health authorities or the so called experts. The obvious question is why ?

Zipster
Zipster
January 9, 2023 11:03 pm
rickw
rickw
January 9, 2023 11:06 pm

The people desperate to attribute any death whatsoever, at any age, to any vax intake are every bit as duplicitous as those who tried to attribute suicides and car accident deaths to Covid two years ago.

Almost as bad as those who staunchly refuse to hear any bad news about the shit they’ve already had pumped into their arm!

Zipster
Zipster
January 9, 2023 11:06 pm

Sadly the huge amount of adverse signals from all around the world are not having impact on our Health authorities or the so called experts. The obvious question is why ?

“They” are certainly not going to tell us. One thing is certain though, they don’t give a shit about us.

rickw
rickw
January 9, 2023 11:09 pm

Sadly the huge amount of adverse signals from all around the world are not having impact on our Health authorities or the so called experts. The obvious question is why ?

Also interesting is that is now clear that the military were involved in this shit show from the absolute outset.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 9, 2023 11:12 pm

Bring popcorn!

Do you think Harry and Meghan should be stripped of their royal titles?

Yes 96%
16,802 votes
No 3%
595 votes
Undecided 1%
150 votes

Vote here:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11614231/Do-think-Harry-Meghan-stripped-royal-titles-Vote-tell-why.html

rickw
rickw
January 9, 2023 11:15 pm

Campaigners are calling on Immigration Minister Andrew Giles to deny a visa to influential anti-vaccine activist and COVID-19 misinformation spreader Peter McCullough.

The only way the f’cking turds in the TGA and Government can win this debate is by not having it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 9, 2023 11:17 pm

Do you think Harry and Meghan should be stripped of their royal titles?

As long as the Palace don’t send them to the colonies…

rickw
rickw
January 9, 2023 11:20 pm

It is entirely up to individuals over 30 to get a 2nd booster, or not.
In short, for most people the vaccine program is over.

For some of us the vaccine program and its implications will never be over…..

MatrixTransform
January 9, 2023 11:26 pm

they don’t give a shit about us

pastoral care … but your standing is only marginally better than livestock

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
January 9, 2023 11:31 pm

When is industrial-scale abuse in schools not news? When it’s in state schools:

https://mercatornet.com/a-horrifying-report-on-sexual-abuse-in-chicago-public-schools-sank-without-a-trace-last-week-why/82550/

This story is from Chicago but could be from here – in our media, with the honourable exception of Hedley Thomas, and in Gillard’s sham royal commission.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 9, 2023 11:46 pm

and in Gillard’s sham royal commission.

The Royal Commission that investigated the Church, in an effort to embarrass one Tony Abbott, but didn’t investigate certain outback communities?

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2023 11:47 pm

Sadly the huge amount of adverse signals from all around the world are not having impact on our Health authorities or the so called experts. The obvious question is why ?

A few days ago I posted a quote from a paper Indolent had referenced that was about the relationship between mRNA and myocarditis. Pubmed has over 1500 citations(human restriction) for adverse events related to covid vaccines.

Making ill-informed assertions destroys credibility.

rickw
rickw
January 9, 2023 11:49 pm

the broad implications of the admissions, by former German Chancellor Merkel and ex-President of France Hollande, that they never intended to fulfill the agreements they signed in Minsk. They were not just lying, she said — they were violating international law

Some moral authority.

rickw
rickw
January 9, 2023 11:54 pm

Question is how rare would this be wrt the varieties of trees. The oranges are only 2/3 what you get these days but incredibly sweet and the lemons are huge with a very deep rind.

Bushie the two orange trees at the front of my joint are ancient. They haven’t had fruit for about 20 years. I’m trying to get mum interested in trying to see if she can get some seedlings going from them.

(Comments on how to do this most welcome! I also have some apricot seeds from a very old tree that used to be near my factory.)

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 10, 2023 12:05 am

Think most of the citrus you buy are grafted onto whatever rootstock does well in local conditions. Out of my pay grade by several orders of magnitude.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 10, 2023 12:07 am

Might make an interesting project for whatever the right time of year is in your area.

rickw
rickw
January 10, 2023 12:17 am
Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
January 10, 2023 12:28 am

Bush, have a dig for a local heritage gardening group. Many old salts can identify varieties by sight, and there’s DNA identification out there too.
Wrick- how can you get seeds from a tree which doesn’t fruit??? If it’s ungrafted, which is a possibility if it’s old, try covering the root zone (same diameter as canopy) with a dark coarse sand, and watering it daily through summer- it should throw up suckers which can be cut off the parent radial root with a clean sharp spade, whwn the growing stem darkens from green to a rough grey-brown.

rickw
rickw
January 10, 2023 12:29 am
rickw
rickw
January 10, 2023 12:30 am

Wrick- how can you get seeds from a tree which doesn’t fruit???

Missing detail, they had fruit for the first time in 20 years!

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
January 10, 2023 12:33 am

And Bushie that lemon sounds like a rough lemon or citron- ye olde rootstock for a lot of wussy cumquats and tangelos. Are the branches spiky?
Or, the rind could be an expression of dryness and deficiency- throw some chook poo down and water it up. Chelated iron is a good guess from over here. Most citrus you can think of as a bigger tomato bush, over a longer period.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
January 10, 2023 12:41 am

HB, you’re right about the rootstock- retail trees are the leftovers of commercial production, i know in WA at least it’s a hard task to dig up anything robust or tasty- the racks are full of quick growing and flavourless dwarfs.
I daydream about getting my eye in and propagating a retirement business based on travelling the world and securing rare vines, heritage fruit trees and ornamentals…

Robert Sewell
January 10, 2023 5:13 am

132and Bush:

Screw it, I’m over trying to be “nice” with most of these imbeciles.
Reality will hit them harder (eventually) than I ever will with mere words and scorn.

Ditto.
One of the reasons I changed my nom de blog to my real name was because I got sick of pulling my punches on people who deserved a good verbal smack in the mouth.
Being ‘nice’ is what got us to this point.
Being ‘nice’ has dealt us the absurd position of having to live up to a standard while the Left behave like thugs, who then decry the loss of civility in politics.
The Left has worked hard to get us annoyed, and so ‘tough titties’ to civility.

Robert Sewell
January 10, 2023 6:04 am
Kneel
Kneel
January 10, 2023 1:17 pm

“As for the hysterical nonsense, will be ramped to eleventy.”

Of course – that’s standard procedure. Remember “Global Warming”? Old fashioned term you know – it’s “Climate Change” now. Oh, wait – that’s old now too, now it’s “Climate Extremes” or whatever.

Flim-flamery and co once said “Drought is the new normal”, saying essentially that our dams are useless and will go dry. It wasn’t that long after he said that, that Sydney’s Warragamba over-flowed and Brisbane was flooded too. And if you get satellite photos of NSW from 2018 and 2022, you can literally see the flood waters, and the significant greening of the landscape – from space!

If you were to download 4 datasets from BoM and graph them with a common timeline (temperature, precipitation, ENSO index and IOD index), you would note – with a simple eyeball and data comparison, no stats required – that in Australia:
* we are a land of extremes, and average values tell you not very much;
* temperature is a lagging indicator of precipitation;
* we normally have either drought or flood, and droughts are normally broken by floods;
* the longer the drought, the bigger the flood that breaks it;
* both ENSO and IOD are significant indicators of precipitation;
* both ENSO and IOD tend to be cyclic, but with different periods;

What we see now is comparable to what you can see in the historical record when ENSO and IOD were similar. Shhh! Don’t tell people, they’ll stop believing “The Science” – even though “science” is a process, and “the science” is therefore non-existent – there is a “current majority view of experts in the field”, that’s it. And that is subject to change no matter how “settled” it may appear to be.

“Science is the belief in the fallibility of experts” – indeed Mr Feynman, you are most certainly correct in that assessment, well said, Sir!

Not Uh oh
Not Uh oh
January 12, 2023 5:03 pm

Hey, Bowen and Albo are doing a great job of keeping power prices down. Just got notification from my supplier that my usage charges are only going up by 10% in February.
Woohoo!
Mind you, I wouldn’t want to be running a business that’s dependent on the stuff.

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