Open Thread – Weekend 7 Jan 2023


Nightly Walk of the Monks to the Mountain Monastery Athos, Hermann Corrodi, 1888


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feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 11:07 am

Not much smoked salmon about though.

sfw
sfw
January 7, 2023 11:07 am

Mater, on this particular subject , you are engaging in ultracrepidarianism. Please stop.

Arky
January 7, 2023 11:08 am

You’re on it Calli.
Thanks.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 11:08 am

you are engaging in ultracrepidarianism

Takes one to know one.

h/t Homer Simpson.

calli
calli
January 7, 2023 11:08 am

Sorry, I thought you meant the Australian Mint.

C.L.
C.L.
January 7, 2023 11:09 am

They’re dicking around with replacing the monarch on the $5 note. No guesses on the proposed replacement necessary…

Brittany? Julia?

sfw
sfw
January 7, 2023 11:09 am

ftb, I guess you would know.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 7, 2023 11:09 am

… polling done for The West by Painted Dog Research reveals …

Makes The Ponds Institute look like a respected research body. The Worst doesn’t need this contributing to its eventual joining of the candle stick makers.

dopey
dopey
January 7, 2023 11:09 am

Sydney Morning Herald: Harry ‘admits’ to killing 25 while on duty. No mention of off duty numbers. Stalin and Mao must be still counting their totals.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 11:09 am

Adam Goodes on the $5 note.
Resist until it happens.

Roger
Roger
January 7, 2023 11:10 am

it will have to be the indigenous personage who invented polymer and holograms.

Isn’t he already on the $50?

I believe he was on the verge of a breakthrough in teleporting when he passed.

Makka
Makka
January 7, 2023 11:11 am

Not much smoked salmon about though.

Had some delicious smoked salmon ex-Aldi last week. None of that Tassie effluent stuff- the Nordic ocean going variety. Aldi have a very decent salmon selection.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 7, 2023 11:11 am

If you have some data fine, link it. Something like this on Polish pilot kill ratios will suffice;

Huh?
We were talking about Adolf Galland, Makka.
Try not to be a total Coomer, if at all possible.
For your reference:
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Coomer

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 7, 2023 11:11 am

They’re dicking around with replacing the monarch on the $5 note. No guesses on the proposed replacement necessary…

Ben Roberts Smith!

sfw
sfw
January 7, 2023 11:12 am

Facebook just reminded me of an old mate, it’s his birthday today. However the fb message was “Let them know you are thinking about them”. FFS

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
January 7, 2023 11:13 am

I don’t see the need to change the $5 note. Why not keep the Queen on it as recognition of our longest reigning monarch, a record that I don’t foresee ever being broken.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 7, 2023 11:15 am

you are engaging in ultracrepidarianism

Takes one to know one.

h/t Homer Simpson.

It is a perfectly cromulent word.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
January 7, 2023 11:16 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 11:18 am

The Australian on the Year awards are coming up.

https://www.australianoftheyear.org.au/recipients/listing/2023

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 7, 2023 11:18 am

Ben Roberts Smith

Any word on that libel sideshow?

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 11:19 am

It is a perfectly cromulent word.

Bwahahahaha.
Thankfully my mouth was empty of coffee when I read that.

Roger
Roger
January 7, 2023 11:20 am

I believe he was on the verge of a breakthrough in teleporting when he passed.

I’m actually not too far off the mark with that.

The chap used to give public lectures to gullible whiteys on the magical powers of aborigines, including the ability to telepathically transmit messages over considerable distances.

Mater
January 7, 2023 11:21 am

Mater, on this particular subject , you are engaging in ultracrepidarianism.

Why do you say that?
I’m pretty sure that I’m one of the few who can talk to this subject with authority, but I’d like to know why you think I can’t.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 7, 2023 11:24 am

Without commenting on the mad ranga, analysis of WWI and II air kills show up a vast exaggeration in claims.

For example, in northern Australia:

The 49th Fighter Group had come to Darwin at a time when Australian forces were stretched to the limit fighting overseas and played a critical role in blunting the Japanese raids. The Group intercepted 17 raids and claimed 73 enemy aircraft – five of these over Horn Island on 14 March.

However, in examining a range of documentation from both sides of the war, the suggested figure is 11 fighters, one of which ditched with the pilot lost with two others missing; ten bombers and a reconnaissance aircraft – a total of 22 aircraft and their crews.

Source

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 11:25 am

How would Harry know how many people he killed in Afghanistan?
The DoD files that wikileaks released demonstrated a lot a of coalition engagements they had zero idea or when they did they understated the numbers, especially of those they classified as non-combatants.
If Harry said 25, it could be 5, it could be 50.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 7, 2023 11:25 am

The Australian on the Year awards are coming up.

Ah, our chance to see what grievous sin for which Australia’s elite will be horsewhipping us over the next 12 months – to convince us we have no moral claim to participate in our democracy.

They announce a name, we check what they were a victim of, et voila!

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 7, 2023 11:26 am

The Daily Mail should rename itself The Daily Harry for the next few weeks. The number of articles about him are getting similar to something actually significant like 9/11 or death of the queen.
However the list of “suspects” for doing the deed in the field behind the pub was apparently quite long, or so I was told ! Some nice fillys. They might be giving a subtle clue by the fact one article is totally devoted to one particular “suspect”.
It is very apparent being the “spare” did have some significant benefits in relation to older women being interested in him. Life has clearly been very unfair to Harry and no wonder he probably has a full time therapist.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 11:27 am

Snap (kind of) Top Ender.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 7, 2023 11:32 am

This is the coldest summer I have known. I know I’m older now and may feel the cold more but it has been consistently colder than previous years, not just an odd day here or there.

Despite that there’s about to be a cacophony of shrieking because sea ice at both poles is running well below normal.

Sea Ice Extent (Global Antarctic and Arctic) – Day 5 – 2023 (6 Jan)

I think it’s because of the Tongan volcano and the La Nina shifting heat from the tropic/temperate latitudes towards the poles. With both the overall effect is global cooling, as we saw with the Pinatubo eruption, but sea ice will be reduced and the bedwetters will be crying doom, doom.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 7, 2023 11:33 am

Any word on that libel sideshow?

The learned judge has retired to consider his verdict – may take up to a year.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 11:34 am

Wasn’t there a Christmas about 15 years ago when it was sub 10 degrees in Melbourne?
Obviously that was just one day.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 7, 2023 11:34 am

willsays:

January 7, 2023 at 10:05 am

The fact he called his book Spare shows his deep resentment against the institution.

I doubt Harry had a role in the book’s title, this was likely done by the literary agent or publishing house.

If so, more fool him (and his agent).
Your average “15 minutes of fame” type (think Schapelle Corby) often has very little knowledge or leverage to control the narrative.
Ginge and Whinge had both the knowledge of the media/publishing industries and the market power to control the publication 100%. Photos, text, cover design, even the type-face and font size if they liked.
Of course, the publisher might not be willing to pay top dollar if the end product is possibly going to be bland tripe without any salacious hooks.
But that doesn’t matter to Ginge and Whinge, because this is just about telling their story, right.
Making money isn’t the objective.
Is it?

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 7, 2023 11:35 am

Dick Savitt, Wimbledon Champ, just died.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-07/tennis-champion-dick-savitt-dies-aged-95/101535102
No mention of his being Vaxxed, but you know he was.

MatrixTransform
January 7, 2023 11:36 am

It is a perfectly cromulent word

copacetic

Arky
January 7, 2023 11:41 am

Prince Harry speaks during his service 2008.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1hDUpLS71o&t=83s

Roger
Roger
January 7, 2023 11:43 am

The Australian on the Year awards are coming up.

Ah, our chance to see what grievous sin for which Australia’s elite will be horsewhipping us over the next 12 months…

Let me see, we have…

Two proud men, an Indian born pediatrician, an advocate for end of life care who also ticks the female & ethnic boxes, a female body image advocate, an African community worker from Tassie, a maggot farmer from the ACT (yes, maggot farmer…you know ehere this leads) and Craig Foster AM.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 7, 2023 11:44 am

Just checked out Berns link to Australian of year. Only one state awardee I have heard of was Craig Foster.
The Qld winner is an Aboriginal musician 99.9% have no knowledge of but sure to be a hit with the arts crowd.
The ACT awardee is the standout for her work with maggots !
No idea who will win from that lot.
A lot of diversity picks in the main category, senior and young. White males clearly a minority in our population.
Surprised no Covid “heroes”.

Arky
January 7, 2023 11:45 am

That video I just posted features on the Royal family’s media page.
So they still aren’t shy about, or weren’t shy about, highlighting his service.
His army career must have been a major influence on Harry, as it would have been for anyone else, Royal or not.

m0nty
m0nty
January 7, 2023 11:50 am

Craig Foster is an honorary choco. He’s a white boy from Lithgow but dresses and talks like an interior designer from Verona.

Roger
Roger
January 7, 2023 11:51 am

Surprised no Covid “heroes”.

What…no esteemed epidemiologists!?

Why… it’s as thought they’re trying to consign the whole sorry affair to the forgettery.

Makka
Makka
January 7, 2023 11:51 am

Another CJ piece. Immigration ramp up incoming;

Opinion

Christopher Joye
Historic drop in house prices will hit within three months
With central banks showing no signs of ending interest rate increases there is terrible news ahead for asset prices, at least in the short term.

Christopher JoyeColumnist

https://www.afr.com/wealth/personal-finance/historic-drop-in-house-prices-will-hit-within-three-months-20230105-p5caj0

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 7, 2023 11:52 am

As for scores, the Americans reckon the best place to keep beer cold is next to a fighter pilot’s heart.
Erich”Bubi” Hartmann didn’t begin his combat career until October 1942.
Read Yeager, Goodson (Tumult in the Clouds) et al. They were very keen to shoot down enemy aircraft and whether the pilot survived is irrelevant to them.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 7, 2023 11:53 am

Harry’s biggest mistake in publishing his Tali-tally isn’t the loss of cred with his former colleagues.
It is a yuuuuge PR mistake. His core audience is Californian peaceniks and race-baiters. Admitting to killing 25 poor brown people just will not do.
And, just imagine if it should come out that he “knocked one of them off a small hill”.

Black Ball
Black Ball
January 7, 2023 11:53 am

Didn’t Unaipon invent and patent the shears that are used in woolsheds across the country now?

Black Ball
Black Ball
January 7, 2023 11:55 am

He’s a white boy from Lithgow but dresses and talks like an interior designer from Verona.

Monty correct for once. (Golf clap)

Roger
Roger
January 7, 2023 11:56 am

Craig Foster is an honorary choco.

In which case, as a white middle class male I’m not seeing my “story” being told in the Australian of the Year nominees.

Am I the bad guy?

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
January 7, 2023 11:57 am

Government will build workforce to sustain ageing population
SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA – NewsWire Photos DECEMBER 7, 2022:
Treasurer Jim Chalmers said migration was an important part of the answer to an ageing workforce, but not a substitute of the other things the government is doing.

The “Big Australia” is go. The population ponzi scheme will not be allowed to collapse during this government’s term, lest it take a industry super / real estate bubble down with it.

Roger
Roger
January 7, 2023 11:57 am

Didn’t Unaipon invent and patent the shears that are used in woolsheds across the country now?

Don’t recall, but yes, he wasn’t a complete flake.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 11:58 am

A short piece on OpenAI (ChatGPT).

https://www.axios.com/2023/01/06/microsofts-future-openai?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

If Microsoft does move to a controlling stake of OpenAI & plugs it into Bing it would mean that Google would be facing it’s first genuine challenge since competing its way to a monopoly post tech wreck.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 7, 2023 11:59 am

Harry shot them outta uh helicopter using a Gatling Gun.
There woulda been women and children on the ground, so perhaps 25 is a revised estimate.
It could be 250, which would put him ahead of Galland?

rickw
rickw
January 7, 2023 11:59 am

why countries like Australia are in danger of becoming authoritarian states

Danger? It happened.

Roger
Roger
January 7, 2023 11:59 am

The population ponzi scheme will not be allowed to collapse during this government’s term, lest it take a industry super / real estate bubble down with it.

Real estate bubble you say?

Philip Lowe says hold my 0.5% abv low carb super dry beer…

mem
mem
January 7, 2023 12:00 pm

Re the Oz of the Year Awards I’ll put a dollar on the insect and maggot farmer Olympia Yarger
Insect farming pioneer and founder, Goterra
ACT STATE RECIPIENT AUSTRALIAN OF THE YEAR 2023
Olympia Yarger is a climate action warrior, a maggot farmer and founder of the Insect Protein Association of Australia. She even had a fly named after her by the CSIRO (Hermetia Olympea, a soldier fly species from the Daintree rainforest).

The founder of agritech start-up Goterra, Olympia is an insect farming pioneer and has developed an innovative waste management system that uses maggots to process food waste and reduce greenhouse gases.

Her ‘Maggot Robot’ system houses larvae of the black soldier fly inside portable units. Food waste is fed to the maggots and, similar to a worm farm, the larvae’s excretions become fertiliser. The maggots themselves become protein-rich feed for livestock and aquaculture.

It’s already being used by Woolworths and in Sydney’s Barangaroo precinct. So far, Olympia’s system has processed more than 35,000 tonnes of waste and saved more than 66,000 tonnes of carbon emissions.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
January 7, 2023 12:01 pm

ZKTA

I did some quick research on Painted Dog. 2 of the execs have extensive Gov/Academic background and the third has worked for an obscure marketing office in Perth that doesn’t appear in any google searches except in the right column showing it’s address and searches showing Nike products or online snake sales. One of the exec has had extensive experience with “juvenile offenders”. The other in academia has had a fair bit to do with WA health. Name aside, I’d say they list heavily left and there’s no way to get the report on their website. Unusual as most pollsters publish the report or you can buy it for a small fee.

Considering the biggest state for sales of do not welcome me to my country has been WA the findings look like they polled in whatever goes for a trendy area of inner Perth. I reckon its is pure manure and a sign of the type of push polling and shouty propaganda we are about to be subjected to, like gay unions.

That said, I’m curious to know who commissioned the survey.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
January 7, 2023 12:01 pm

Bourne1879 says:
January 7, 2023 at 11:44 am

Just checked out Berns link to Australian of year. Only one state awardee I have heard of was Craig Foster.
The Qld winner is an Aboriginal musician 99.9% have no knowledge of but sure to be a hit with the arts crowd.

mmmmm, you have a referendum on ‘the voice’ (TM) coming up, the Indig is a shoe in.

Oh come on
Oh come on
January 7, 2023 12:02 pm
Cassie of Sydney
January 7, 2023 12:05 pm

“I seem to recall this being discussed on an earlier iteration of this blog. Apparently the timelines of the affair and the pregnancy don’t coincide.”

Correct, Harry was born in 1984 and Diana and Hewett’s affair didn’t begin until 1986. Regardless, Harry looks a lot like the late Prince Phillip.

132andBush
132andBush
January 7, 2023 12:06 pm

The DoD files that wikileaks released demonstrated a lot a of coalition engagements they had zero idea or when they did they understated the numbers, especially of those they classified as non-combatants.
If Harry said 25, it could be 5, it could be 50.

Pretty sure he’d have a good idea. Every engagement was recorded and I’m pretty sure a “kill” was when limb separation was observed, which was pursued so as to avoid the possibility of an enemy playing dead.
From what I can gather Harry has just stated the facts, can’t see how that’s bragging.

Including these details, which are verifiable and for which he would be eviscerated if a load of porkies, adds a veneer of truth to what could very well be a book filled with utter shyte.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 12:06 pm

Even though Thiel (the founders fund) & Musk would gladly take Microsoft money for ChatGPT, others on the cap table would have issues with it.
Microsoft typically folds purchases into their own ecosystem, to the preclusion of all others.
Meaning M12 (Microsoft’s VC ecosystem) would benefit.
Meaning the other VC’s who currently own ChatGPT wouldn’t.

It doesn’t get the coverage it deserves but after his Microsoft stock & property, Gates third largest investment is in M12 & that ecosystem.

JC
JC
January 7, 2023 12:09 pm

Regardless, Harry looks a lot like the late Prince Phillip.

Cass, so you think Prince Phillip is his dad?

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 12:10 pm

Bush, I didn’t say he was bragging.
I said he would not know.

JC
JC
January 7, 2023 12:10 pm

just kidding.

shatterzzz
January 7, 2023 12:11 pm

It could be 250, which would put him ahead of Galland?
Confirmed kills for pilots refers to aircraft not people .. duuuuuh!

132andBush
132andBush
January 7, 2023 12:11 pm

I have my copy of Chris Masters’ book “No Front Line” in the van.

Might re-read the bits where BRS describes who and how he killed.

While on my knees, of course.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 7, 2023 12:12 pm

Harry doesn’t look like Prince Philip at all.
There’s a tradition with Kings and Heirs, they sire the firstborn, then retire to root the field.
Harry isn’t going bald, so he can’t be Chuck’s son, particularly since baldness runs in Diana Spencer’s family.

132andBush
132andBush
January 7, 2023 12:14 pm

Bush, I didn’t say he was bragging.
I said he would not know.

Realise that, Bern.

It was a reference to someone else’s comment upthread, can’t remember who.

C.L.
C.L.
January 7, 2023 12:15 pm

Harry seems to see all this as his moment to set himself up for life.
Not sure if he’s made enough to live the way he wants to for another 35+ years.

That’s a long time to pay for bodyguards, private schools, chalets, expensive holidays, private planes … a divorce … and sundry other extravagances.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 7, 2023 12:16 pm

Confirmed kills for pilots refers to aircraft not people .. duuuuuh!
Ummmm, ShitForBrainzzzz, Harry was a Pilot.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
January 7, 2023 12:18 pm

Hhhhhhm. My posts seem to be being sent to the naughty corner.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 12:19 pm

Today I learned that in Canada during 2021, there were 10,064 deaths classified as euthanasia.
Average age 76.3 years.
I wonder if the supporters of this will change their tune in a few years when it’s 50-100k and an average age close to 50.
Thin end of the wedge.

alwaysright
alwaysright
January 7, 2023 12:20 pm

Harry who?

On serious matters, I have a lot of garden plants with yellowing leaf.
I presume this is due to the deluges and the cold.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 7, 2023 12:21 pm

Hhhhhhm. My posts seem to be being sent to the naughty corner.
Click on Open Thread Weekend Jan 7, then refresh.

Jorge
Jorge
January 7, 2023 12:23 pm

doing the deed in the field behind the pub

How does that work ? Any security around or do they stay out of sight and talk on their wrist radios: Broadsword calling Danny Boy. Broadsword calling Danny Boy. Target in sight. Suggest have dettol and super wipes at the ready for cleanup later. Necklace unbroken.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
January 7, 2023 12:23 pm

AOTY has been a joke for a long time. I was leaning towards Professor Samar Aoun until I did some research on her views on euthanasia. Nice how they airbrushed that out of her blurb, nice words about her care for the dying, MND and community care but any references toned down to “person centre approach to end of life.”

IMO too much tokenism, UN hobby horses and distinct lack of actual substance in this years lot. Another meh.

Dragnet
Dragnet
January 7, 2023 12:24 pm

Basil Fawlty: I killed 6 men in the Korean War you know

Sybil: Yes, you were in the Catering Corps.

min
min
January 7, 2023 12:28 pm

Harry’s Bald spot is at back
BTW Cassie there are therapies and there are therapies . Perhaps he did Rebirthing , Some therapies just let the client Moan on and on just giving postive affirmation . The therapy I do requires the client to work on theemselves with help of therapist And is one that research has shown to have best outcomes.

Roger
Roger
January 7, 2023 12:28 pm

I was leaning towards Professor Samar Aoun until I did some research on her views on euthanasia.

I suspected as much, RD.

Roger
Roger
January 7, 2023 12:29 pm

And is one that research has shown to have best outcomes.

CBT?

Zipster
Zipster
January 7, 2023 12:30 pm
Ed Case
Ed Case
January 7, 2023 12:30 pm

Id say Harry may have shaved his head a few times.
That seems to keep baldness at bay.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
January 7, 2023 12:31 pm

Have you ever wondered how m0nty does it?
Have you ever wanted to emulate his success?
Behold, the m0ntifa formula revealed!

perhaps that is how I should be thinking of my blogging: as permanently in opposition to something or someone. Without wanting to descend into Reply Guy mediocrity like the sea-lions over at the Cat, that way of thinking tends to produce my best stuff. Anger is an energy, and that is the meatsuit I want to inhabit.

Yes, really!
Surely it would be better to have a a different meatsuit for every occasion? LOL.

Having fulfilled my mediocre Reply-Guy function, I bid you good day, *oorrgh oorrgh oorgh* (claps flippers together).

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 7, 2023 12:35 pm

Bodywork Psychotherapy.
Basically, people never let go emotionally and physically from Trauma, even though they may have forgotten it.
Psychotherapy can assist them in working thru it and letting it go.

mem
mem
January 7, 2023 12:36 pm

Re yellowing of leaves. A general indication that not enough nitrogen. The soil gets leached out of major elements needed for photosynthesis. Lack of sunshine can also contribute to yellowing as can lack of water but the latter doesn’t seem to fit unless you are talking about plants in undercover areas. Dose with nitrogen rich liquid fertilizer.

bespoke
bespoke
January 7, 2023 12:38 pm

The therapy I do requires the client to work on theemselves with help of therapist And is one that research has shown to have best outcomes.

Ya one of the few, min.

rickw
rickw
January 7, 2023 12:39 pm

the meatsuit I want to inhabit

Just weird.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 7, 2023 12:39 pm

Sybil: Yes, you were in the Catering Corps.

Catering is the hardest course the Army has to offer – no-one’s ever passed it!

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 7, 2023 12:39 pm

In which case, as a white middle class male I’m not seeing my “story” being told in the Australian of the Year nominees.

Revel in the fact you have joined smokers as the only group who can be discriminated against with widespread social approval.

Zipster
Zipster
January 7, 2023 12:42 pm

Olympia Yarger is a climate action warrior, a maggot farmer and founder of the Insect Protein Association of Australia

we are not worthy!

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 7, 2023 12:42 pm

Real estate bubble you say?

You will soon be able to put down a few tulip bulbs as a deposit on a 3×2 mortgagee sale.

sfw
sfw
January 7, 2023 12:43 pm

Via Mark Latham.

THE TRUTH ABOUT PRINCE HARRY
He didn’t kill 25 Taliban.
He captured them, held them for hours, whinging and moaning about the problems in his life.
Then the Taliban shot themselves.

Roger
Roger
January 7, 2023 12:44 pm

Anger is an energy, and that is the meatsuit I want to inhabit.

What the heck?

m0nty
m0nty
January 7, 2023 12:45 pm

Jenna Ellis ?? @JennaEllisEsq

BREAKING: Source tells me the closed-room background why the 14 are now backing McCarthy.

THREAD ?

The motion to vacate is key.

It’s a privilege motion (supersedes all other business except adjournment) that takes only one movant. If invoked, McCarthy would need a majority of 218 to STAY as Speaker.

This effectively neuters McCarthy. The original 20 have a pact that if McCarthy does anything outside his promises, they will vote to not retain and he’s gone.

The rest of the rules package would mark the first time HRC would have independent authority from leadership in over 60 years—good for accountability and the public.

Process requires the vote for speaker to happen first, member swearing-in, then rules package; however, if McCarthy tries to back out of any concession, he won’t have the votes for any rules package and we’re back to a stall. Congress can’t move without a rules package affirmed.

Source tells me the 10pm vote is likely going to see a consensus and McCarthy elected.

Bottom line: With this rules package, the 20 have achieved an historic accountability oversight and check on leadership and the Speaker’s power.

I would consider this a TOTAL WIN for Gaetz & Co, the MAGA movement, and therefore America.

Declare victory and let’s get to work! ?

If this does come to pass, the sword of Damocles will be hanging over McCarthy’s head. I give it three months tops before there is another vote.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 7, 2023 12:46 pm

Just for laughs could mUnty give us a few cut and pastes of “my best stuff”.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 7, 2023 12:46 pm

Rogersays:
January 7, 2023 at 11:56 am
Craig Foster is an honorary choco.

In which case, as a white middle class male I’m not seeing my “story” being told in the Australian of the Year nominees.

Am I the bad guy?

See the words in bold, to answer your question.

m0nty
m0nty
January 7, 2023 12:46 pm

Didn’t any of you lot watch Donnie Darko? Geez.

win
win
January 7, 2023 12:50 pm

Well the best laid plans of mice and men go awry and you’d be peeved if you had planned a British Royal Court in the US and they would’nt let you do it . How humiliating how impoverishing they cut off his money in one fell swoop. I wonder if they are planning some international tours with adoring public walkabouts that Markle who believes it is her due can get paid for.

calli
calli
January 7, 2023 12:51 pm

Maggot farming seems a perfect expression of aspirational Australia for 2023.

Goes with the gradually rotting corpse of a country.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 7, 2023 12:51 pm

Ed Casesays:
January 7, 2023 at 12:16 pm
Confirmed kills for pilots refers to aircraft not people .. duuuuuh!
Ummmm, ShitForBrainzzzz, Harry was a Pilot.

Ummm, BrainsForShit, his targets weren’t aircraft.

Zipster
Zipster
January 7, 2023 12:51 pm

the meatsuit I want to inhabit

It rubs the Lotion on its skin

calli
calli
January 7, 2023 12:52 pm

And of course the epicentre is Canberra.

You couldn’t make it up.

Roger
Roger
January 7, 2023 12:53 pm

Goes with the gradually rotting corpse of a country.

Oi…I’m not dead yet!

bespoke
bespoke
January 7, 2023 12:57 pm

Bit dark today calli?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 7, 2023 1:00 pm

Uncharitable perhaps (De mortuis nil nisi bonum and all that) but my recollection of Diana is as being a very smooth operator.

From in front, where all the MSM and doting public sat, she looked the very soul of a blameless woman cruelly spurned by a faithless husband and his vindictive family, but she dedicating her life to selflessly alleviating the suffering of others.

But if you stepped back and managed to look at the show not flat on, but slightly from the side, you could see the separate elements and the machinery that kept it all moving.

All the doe-eyes brimming with compassionate tears from beside children’s ward hospital beds, the briefing of paparazzi and then pained scurrying away from their camera flashes, a steady leaking of stories of her own suffering at the hands of the Royals, and the crowning of herself as the people’s Queen of Hearts.

Update the whole 1990’s show to make it a woke 2020’s drama and you can see the Dr Freudian still has a home in our decade – Harry has married his mother.

calli
calli
January 7, 2023 1:01 pm

It’s raining. My house is full of kids. It’s Lord of the Flies I tells ya!

Saving grace – Captain Underpants.

miltonf
miltonf
January 7, 2023 1:01 pm

And of course the epicentre is Canberra.

You couldn’t make it up.

yep a Canbra maggot farmer, almost as bad as a Canbra hooker

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 7, 2023 1:03 pm

she looked the very soul of a blameless woman cruelly spurned by a faithless husband

Lady Diana’s various infidelities amounted to about a dozen…

rickw
rickw
January 7, 2023 1:04 pm

yep a Canbra maggot farmer, almost as bad as a Canbra hooker

Is there a difference?!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 7, 2023 1:05 pm

Why did Auto-corrupt change Freud to Freudian?

If I wrote about Nelson Mandela would it say he was Jung at heart?

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
January 7, 2023 1:06 pm

30 Rock:
‘ Your father didnt kill 14 Germans just so you could swan around!’
‘But Pop wasnt even in the war’
‘Thats beside the point. …’

Roger
Roger
January 7, 2023 1:07 pm

I’d suggest that on the hot-crazy matrix Diana was well into the No Go zone.

miltonf
miltonf
January 7, 2023 1:08 pm

The AOTY is so debased, such a grotesque parody, that the canbra maggot ‘farmer’ is the way to go.

Crossie
Crossie
January 7, 2023 1:10 pm

Now, isn’t that interesting? All those Fox News hosts who railed at the dissidents for not voting for McCarthy as Speaker are now saying that it was the right thing to do to ensure he will act in their voters’ interests. What a difference a day makes, and a bunch of unsuccessful votes.

The criticism now is why didn’t they do it before and behind the scenes. My guess is that they did and were told to take a hike. It was a very effective way to bring the arrogant Republican establishment jerks into line.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 7, 2023 1:12 pm

Yes Roger but you were in hospital unless you’re not the real Roger.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 7, 2023 1:12 pm

Wondered if anyone was going to get the Mandela/Jung thing.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 7, 2023 1:14 pm

A Canberra hooker has standards.

Zipster
Zipster
January 7, 2023 1:14 pm

it’s saturday and local coles is running extremely low on eggs again. Is this the new normal?

Roger
Roger
January 7, 2023 1:20 pm

Wondered if anyone was going to get the Mandela/Jung thing.

Ha! Very good, ML.

I’m a bit slow I’m afraid…just got out of hospital.

Zipster
Zipster
January 7, 2023 1:25 pm

Nation In Shock As Politicians Show Up To Work 4 Days In A Row
WASHINGTON, D.C. — The nation is in shock today following reports of representatives in Congress showing up to work for the 4th day in a row. Sources in Washington say this may be a new record, as most members of the House are used to showing up maybe once or twice per month while spending most of their time drinking cocktails with lobbyists and talking to CNN. Medical personnel has been dispatched to the Capitol Building to tend to any elderly reps in attendance, who aren’t used to working this hard, while experts warn many of them may not last through today’s grueling 5-hour workday.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 7, 2023 1:27 pm

I’m a bit slow I’m afraid…just got out of hospital.

Any time you leave a hospital upright counts as a success.

Welcome back.

miltonf
miltonf
January 7, 2023 1:28 pm

I wish you a speedy recovery Roger. I really value your contributions here and I will find that article about Donald Horne eventually!

m0nty
m0nty
January 7, 2023 1:29 pm

Best of British with your recovery, Roger.

I hope the head nurse announced loudly at the door to the ward: “Welease… Woger!!”

Roger
Roger
January 7, 2023 1:33 pm

All is well, fellas.

It was a tongue in cheek repose to GreyRanga:

Yes Roger but you were in hospital unless you’re not the real Roger.

But I’m touched by the kind thoughts anyway 😀

Dot
Dot
January 7, 2023 1:34 pm

2% interest only.

———-—->

8% interest & principal.

Awwwww sheeeiiit.

bespoke
bespoke
January 7, 2023 1:35 pm

miltonfsays:
January 7, 2023 at 1:28 pm
I wish you a speedy recovery Roger. I really value your contributions here

+1

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
January 7, 2023 1:38 pm

m0nty says: January 7, 2023 at 12:46 pm

Didn’t any of you lot watch Donnie Darko? Geez.

Yes and had forgotten the related line Frank says, which is about Donnie wearing a “man suit” not a meatsuit. The meat part was your own innovation which, if I’m being kind, could be charitably explained as being an inclusive gender non-specific allowance for modern ears.

Even if you had remembered the quote correctly, doesn’t the “suit” aspect of it suggest a contrivance for appearances rather than a quality of some lived firm foundation?
Possibly it was just the first relevant movie quote that occurred and no fussing over nuance was done.

Zipster
Zipster
January 7, 2023 1:39 pm

The federal district court granted the defendants’ motion to dismiss the case based on Brunson’s lack of standing and the sovereign immunity that the defendants have in their capacity as government officials. The appeals court upheld the dismissal.

officials do not have immunity from treasonous or criminal behaviour. it’s about time to remove immunity from politicians and beauroscats.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
January 7, 2023 1:46 pm

Zipster says: January 7, 2023 at 1:14 pm

it’s saturday and local coles is running extremely low on eggs again. Is this the new normal?

Searching for facts about this specific instance sounds too hard, but conspiratorial ideation is always easy.
By restricting the egg supply the proles will be forced to seek out new sources of protein. It’s all a plot by Big Maggot.

Speaking of…
mem says: January 7, 2023 at 12:00 pm

Re the Oz of the Year Awards I’ll put a dollar on the insect and maggot farmer Olympia Yarger
Insect farming pioneer and founder, Goterra
ACT STATE RECIPIENT AUSTRALIAN OF THE YEAR 2023
Olympia Yarger is a climate action warrior, a maggot farmer and founder of the Insect Protein Association of Australia.

She talks the climate action talk, and maybe she walks the climate walk, but does she chug the climate bug?

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 7, 2023 1:46 pm

Rogersays:
January 7, 2023 at 12:44 pm
Anger is an energy, and that is the meatsuit I want to inhabit.

What the heck?

“Heck” isn’t the word I was thinking of, though it has got two letters in common!

Crossie
Crossie
January 7, 2023 1:48 pm

On serious matters, I have a lot of garden plants with yellowing leaf.
I presume this is due to the deluges and the cold.

My tibouchina has lost a lot of leaves and now the Canadian maple is starting to yellow and shed leaves. Jacaranda, on the other hand, had flowers but very few leaves now that the flowers are gone. The lemon tree seems to be in suspended animation.

Worst of all, the lawn is yellow and barely any growth even after the rain.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 7, 2023 1:49 pm

Mother Lode at 1:00

Update the whole 1990’s show to make it a woke 2020’s drama and you can see the Dr Freudian still has a home in our decade – Harry has married his mother.

Totally.
If I could, I’d give you 468 upticks.

Arky
January 7, 2023 1:54 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
January 7, 2023 at 1:49 pm
If I could, I’d give you 468 upticks

..
More gaslighting.
You are the one and only individual on here who has done it, and you admitted to it.

Vicki
Vicki
January 7, 2023 1:58 pm

On serious matters, I have a lot of garden plants with yellowing leaf.
I presume this is due to the deluges and the cold.

Our West Australian poplars on the western side of our garden grounds at the farm are shedding their leaves which have turned yellow. Normally, this degree of shedding only occurs in Autumn. It is a real nuisance as these trees are some 15m tall and the lawns are covered on leaves. Raking them up & disposing of them is a big job. Some of the grapevines are also turning yellow.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 7, 2023 1:59 pm

Anger is an energy, and that is the meatsuit I want to inhabit.

Now we know what happened to Rex Anger. m0nty=fa has done a Googlery “skinsuit” job on him.

bespoke
bespoke
January 7, 2023 1:59 pm
Arky
January 7, 2023 2:00 pm

Sancho of the Upticks wants it both ways,
He couldn’t help himself but to display his superiority complex around tech by sneering at my naive efforts in Linux, but at the same time wants to hint that I’m tech savvy enough to diddle the upticks.
No, I wouldn’t have a clue how to do that, even if I was insanely insecure or manipulative enough to want to.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 7, 2023 2:01 pm

Vicki

Normally, this degree of shedding only occurs in Autumn. It is a real nuisance as these trees are some 15m tall and the lawns are covered on leaves. Raking them up & disposing of them is a big job. Some of the grapevines are also turning yellow.

The year without a summer, or the start of the decades with no summers? At what point will the Klimate Kultists “discover” that declining temperatures are caused by CO2?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 7, 2023 2:01 pm

More gaslighting.

Please don’t piss on what kudos I win.

I have not yet had a chance to save a link to it, file and index a screenshot, and print a copy to frame and hang on my ‘Wall of Validation’ (which adjoins my ‘Wall of Insecurities’).

Zipster
Zipster
January 7, 2023 2:02 pm

Eggs are currently in short supply, with shops and supermarkets limiting their sales. The main cause of this shortage has been blamed on the avian (bird) flu which has risen to a record number of cases. However, egg producers are also reporting that the egg shortage is due to the unprecedented level of inflation and spiralling costs driven by global events.

PUTIN DUNIT!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 7, 2023 2:03 pm

Rogersays:

January 7, 2023 at 1:07 pm

I’d suggest that on the hot-crazy matrix Diana was well into the No Go zone.

Gonna need a logarithmic scale on the crazy axis.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 7, 2023 2:04 pm

Arkysays:

January 7, 2023 at 1:54 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
January 7, 2023 at 1:49 pm
If I could, I’d give you 468 upticks

..
More gaslighting.
You are the one and only individual on here who has done it, and you admitted to it.

Calm down, Steve Jobs.
You know this how?

Arky
January 7, 2023 2:13 pm

Cheer up Sancho.
Give yourself some ticks.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
January 7, 2023 2:16 pm

min says: January 7, 2023 at 12:28 pm

Harry’s Bald spot is at back

His blind spot is frequently seated to his left.

min
min
January 7, 2023 2:22 pm

Ed case EMDR for PTSD although memory remain s the emotional response goes . PET scans show the difference before and after . Horses for courses still.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
January 7, 2023 2:23 pm

It’s already being used by Woolworths and in Sydney’s Barangaroo precinct. So far, Olympia’s system has processed more than 35,000 tonnes of waste and saved more than 66,000 tonnes of carbon emissions

Is there anything creative accounting can’t do?

miltonf
miltonf
January 7, 2023 2:26 pm

Is there anything creative accounting can’t do?

What a disgusting, destructive, expensive play group canbra is

m0nty
m0nty
January 7, 2023 2:34 pm

Even if you had remembered the quote correctly, doesn’t the “suit” aspect of it suggest a contrivance for appearances rather than a quality of some lived firm foundation?
Possibly it was just the first relevant movie quote that occurred and no fussing over nuance was done.

We are all contriving a persona for appearances in different milieux, Colonel. Lived firm foundations are overrated, unless you’re a… *gasp*… NPC.

John H.
John H.
January 7, 2023 2:34 pm

minsays:
January 7, 2023 at 2:22 pm
Ed case EMDR for PTSD although memory remain s the emotional response goes . PET scans show the difference before and after . Horses for courses still.

Min what is your opinion of EMDR? A friend of mine in the field recommends it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 7, 2023 2:42 pm

Comment over on the Oz – Hazza’s new book is already half price on Amazon….

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 7, 2023 2:48 pm

Online debate over whether teepees are ‘inappropriate’ cubbies for caucasian kids

Mandy Squires
2 min read
January 6, 2023 – 1:00PM
Sunday Herald Sun
138 comments

Are teepee tents for caucasian kids politically incorrect, or harmless fun?

A debate has broken out on social media as to whether the long-loved form of children’s cubby should be off limits to all but Native Americans, or is an acceptable way for all kids to play.

The subject became a hot topic on Twitter this week when a mum asked if it was “culturally inappropriate” to buy a teepee for her caucasian child’s first birthday party.

“For context, we’re doing a safari-themed first birthday party for her and thought this would be semi on-theme for it, but is it insensitive?” the American mum tweeted.

While some people responded the teepee was fine, others said it would only be so if not adorned with Native American trimmings and decoration, while others said it was strictly a no-go.

“When many Indigenous people see a play tent teepee being sold casually as a room decoration, their first reaction is shock – dismay – and then anger,” one woman responded, adding Native Americans had endured genocide which had left deep generational scars.

“The mere image of it of it in a child’s environment brings to mind the racist favourite ‘cowboys and Indians’ game,” the woman tweeted.

Others said there were other tents available for children to play in that didn’t look so look culturally “appropriative”.

And one woman suggested the conversation needed to go beyond that of the cultural appropriation of teepees, to the colonialism inherent in a safari theme.

“As long as you are considering cultural lenses, the colonialism behind safaris might be something to talk about too,” she said.

Teepees are widely available in Australia, with major retailers Kmart, Target, Ikea and more all offering versions for kids.

The retailers did not respond to Herald Sun requests for comment.

Many glamping providers also offer teepee style tents for adults.

In mid-2020 popular Australian fitness influencer Sarah Stevenson – known by her YouTube handle Sarah’s Day — pulled her campaign for a new activewear line after being accused of cultural appropriation when she wore braids.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 7, 2023 2:50 pm

The fred is dying.
“I’m afraid, Dave.”

Oh come on
Oh come on
January 7, 2023 2:52 pm

Let’s not give m0nty what he wants.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 7, 2023 2:53 pm

I’m not bothered about fred dying long as Roger is ok.

alwaysright
alwaysright
January 7, 2023 2:54 pm

Let’s not give m0nty what he wants.

Sugar?

JC
JC
January 7, 2023 2:56 pm

The sea is angry today, my friends.

George Costanza.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 7, 2023 2:58 pm

So munster is trying to project a persona. That persona is a fat no nothing freak. Having done nothing in life worthwhile he is projecting. The projection matching his original self.

Oh come on
Oh come on
January 7, 2023 2:58 pm

Australia will be okay for the next half century or so at least. We’ll go through some difficult times but it won’t be too bad. We produce lots of stuff the world wants and will continue to want, and we could produce a lot more. We can afford to screw up pretty damn badly over an extended period of time and recover. On the other hand…the EU is cactus and the UK is cactus.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 7, 2023 2:59 pm

“I’m afraid, Dave.”

Dover, Dover,
Give us your answer, do
Is the blog over
‘Cos of we motley few?

(I hope that original quote was a reference to 2001: A Space Odyssey)

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 7, 2023 3:01 pm

HAL 9000

bespoke
bespoke
January 7, 2023 3:04 pm

2001

Excellent!

m0nty
m0nty
January 7, 2023 3:05 pm

McCarthy just lost his fourteenth vote for Speaker, he got exactly 50% of the needed votes. Matt Gaetz voted “present” just to screw with his head.

What a clown car of idiots the Republicans are.

Oh come on
Oh come on
January 7, 2023 3:05 pm

Interesting thing if the world splits into a US-led bloc and a rival Eurasian bloc. Australia and Canada will need to be to the US what Russia is going to be to China.

The US is going to hoover up as much of the EU’s industrial base as possible and then it’ll be relegated to buffer zone duties. Perhaps the UK will be maintained as strategic territory, aka Airstrip One.

Oh come on
Oh come on
January 7, 2023 3:06 pm

Matt Gaetz voted “present” just to screw with his head.

Gaetz is a boss.

m0nty
m0nty
January 7, 2023 3:11 pm
Ed Case
Ed Case
January 7, 2023 3:12 pm

Rotten’s been quiet today.

Oh come on
Oh come on
January 7, 2023 3:12 pm

It’s ground hog day for McCarthy. He just doesn’t have the numbers…again. He has to give up. Gaetz is highlighting this by showing he doesn’t even need to vote against McCarthy for him to fail to cross the line.

m0nty
m0nty
January 7, 2023 3:14 pm

That was Mike Rogers of Alabama who leaned across to spit some imprecations at Gaetz, then got dragged away before he started a fist sight. Things going well, then.

Oh come on
Oh come on
January 7, 2023 3:14 pm

Hold another 14 votes, Kevin.

miltonf
miltonf
January 7, 2023 3:15 pm

Perhaps the UK will be maintained as strategic territory, aka Airstrip One.

The yookay could do ok if it didn’t have so many rats in the ranks aka remainers. Not unlike ourselves- we could do so so well just by following Latho’s prescription from 5 years ago-

1. Reduce our immigration intake from 200,000 pa to the 20th century average of 70,000, to take the pressure off housing prices, jobs, wages and city congestion.
2. Big personal income tax cuts, reducing the top marginal rate from 49% to 35%, with other rates coming down to 25 and 15%. This would reboot the economy by giving businesses and workers extra incentive. They should work for themselves, not the taxman!
3. End Australia’s energy crisis and reduce prices by lifting all restrictions on energy production. We should be a global energy superpower, with abundant fossil, renewable and nuclear power.
4. Fight back against political correctness by abolishing Leftist sinkholes like the ABC, SBS and Human Rights Commission, and cleaning cultural Marxism out of our universities and schools.
5. Win the war on terror by introducing a Trump-style travel ban and locking up mentally-ill radicals who threaten public safety.

JC
JC
January 7, 2023 3:17 pm

If the average smoker burns through say six cigs a day going through 5.2 billion cigs a year. It means there are around 780 million smokers in the world.

Barron’s.

Philip Morris International PM main cigarette business is slowly dying, but the tobacco giant isn’t going gently into the night. The company just announced two deals that will keep it healthy in the years to come.

The past decade hasn’t been kind to the tobacco business. The number of traditional cigarettes smoked globally dropped from 5.23 billion at the start of 2018 to an estimated 4.69 billion five years later, even as companies raised prices to compensate for fewer packs sold.

Even without the burden of a U.S. cigarette business—that’s been Altria Group MO +2.38% ’s (ticker: MO) problem—Philip Morris stock (PM) has suffered.

Philip Morris, though, is a different company than it was just a few months ago. Its November acquisition of Swedish Match further cements its global leadership in oral nicotine and adds to its portfolio of what it calls reduced-risk products, which don’t require users to burn tobacco. That deal closed a month after it paid Altria $2.7 billion for the rights to sell Philip Morris’ flagship IQOS product in the U.S., marking PM’s first return to the domestic market since the two companies split in 2008.

Together, the deals mean Philip Morris could have a longer, brighter future than many investors had feared.

“They are further proof that Philip Morris is on a path to be a durable, profitable, and growing business for a very long time to come,” says Bryan Engler, a portfolio manager at Kovitz Investment Group Partners.

That future begins with those euphemistically termed reduced-risk products, or RRPs. These include IQOS, which heats tobacco instead of burning it, along with vaping and nasal and oral products, such as snuff and chewing tobacco.

With global cigarette sales falling steadily over the past decade, Philip Morris isn’t the only company branching out: E-cigarette sales alone ballooned nearly sevenfold, to $2.1 billion, from 2015 to 2018, the year that Altria made a $12.8 billion investment in vaping company Juul.

Critics charge that smoke-free tobaccos are still carcinogenic and that vaping might pose health risks. Yet even the Food and Drug Administration acknowledges that some tobacco products, including IQOS, reduce the production of harmful chemicals, compared with combustible cigarettes.

Foxbody
Foxbody
January 7, 2023 3:18 pm

Just back from another day at the Summernats and catching up with current affairs here- saw Joanna’s excellent comment early on the thread. Every word true of course – the event must be one of the biggest in the region. So popular today no tickets available – capacity reached on pre-sold tickets.
Mullets and Tatts aplenty – but a polite, respectful crowd and some of the engineering on display is world class.
Funny thing – if I collected antique wagons with hand painted designs, ABC people would gush – “ Such authentic naive art, so meaningful”
Show them a totally handcrafted Valient and they would sneer and move away – yet both are authentic artistic statements by working people. I suspect the ABC team has almost nothing to do with working people and hasn’t for quite a while.

JC
JC
January 7, 2023 3:18 pm

Ed Case says:
January 7, 2023 at 3:12 pm

Rotten’s been quiet today.

Encourage him, Eddles. Yeah, wake him up.

m0nty
m0nty
January 7, 2023 3:19 pm

They are going to adjourn for the weekend with McCarthy a shag on a rock, LOL.

rickw
rickw
January 7, 2023 3:20 pm

Just put the word out to the local boys that I’m looking for a Junkyard Suzy GN125! 🙂

Oh come on
Oh come on
January 7, 2023 3:21 pm

I thought McCarthy would fall over the line and still think it likely he will…but the likelihood is shrinking. All of the no votes who flipped will be feeling the full wrath of the base. The longer that goes on whilst enough no votes hold out, the more likely those flipped no votes flip back.

Also, those who held their nose and voted for McCarthy get more time to reconsider their vote.

I suspect all of the threats that McCarthy could have levelled against the holdouts have been issued and haven’t worked. If so, it’s a much steeper climb for him from here.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 7, 2023 3:23 pm

m0ntysays:
January 7, 2023 at 3:05 pm
McCarthy just lost his fourteenth vote for Speaker, he got exactly 50% of the needed votes. Matt Gaetz voted “present” just to screw with his head.

What a clown car of idiots the Republicans are.

m0nty=fa cracks a pseudo sad.

Sad. Low energy.

Oh come on
Oh come on
January 7, 2023 3:23 pm

What are the dividend payments on big tobacco stocks like, JC?

Oh come on
Oh come on
January 7, 2023 3:24 pm

They are going to adjourn for the weekend with McCarthy a shag on a rock, LOL.

Wholeheartedly agree with m0nts!

rickw
rickw
January 7, 2023 3:24 pm

Australian governments have kept much of their COVID research and modelling secret. Why?

Mong Modelling!

You don’t want Average Joe realising just how dumb the entire bureaucratic apparatus is, and that commensurate with their dumbness, they done really f’cked up!

m0nty
m0nty
January 7, 2023 3:24 pm

Democrats vote to adjourn to extend McCarthy’s pain, LMAO!

JC
JC
January 7, 2023 3:26 pm

Fatboy, they’re in the minority. The Demonrats don’t decide this stuff anymore. Shut up.

m0nty
m0nty
January 7, 2023 3:27 pm

Gaetz and Boebert both voted “present” on the 14th vote, otherwise their votes would have been the ones that sent McCarthy into the Speaker’s chair.

The Sunday political talk shows might be interesting for once.

rickw
rickw
January 7, 2023 3:28 pm

then got dragged away before he started a fist sight. Things going well, then

There needs to be way more fist fighting in politics. Average Joe’s could really get behind their respective reps beating the shit out of each other.

Why aren’t there fist fights? Uniparty.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 7, 2023 3:31 pm

The Demonrats don’t decide this stuff anymore.

But they are dead keen on a major reform of allowing mail-in votes for choosing the speaker.

JC
JC
January 7, 2023 3:31 pm

Here’s an interesting bit of revisionist history coming from a piece by Holman Jenkins in the WSJ. The piece is about the war, but it touched on this.

The western front won the war and not the east? Interesting.

World War II revisionist historian Phillips O’Brien has been fighting the good fight lately on Twitter, upholding the thesis of his 2015 magnum opus, “How the War Was Won.” To wit, Russia’s contribution to victory in the world war was relatively minor after all. German weapons and materiel consumed in battle on the eastern front calculate out to a modest fraction of those destroyed or prevented from being created by the Western air and naval war against Germany’s productive capacity.

He turns on its head an old belief that allied bombing was ineffective because Nazi production for a time continued to grow in absolute terms. Mr. O’Brien suggests the effect on potential output is what matters. The Germans apparently agreed. According to Mr. O’Brien’s figures, the lion’s share of resources went to the Luftwaffe and German navy even at the height of the ground campaign in the east.

In other words, it’s production might that wins.

Zipster
Zipster
January 7, 2023 3:34 pm

Online debate over whether teepees are ‘inappropriate’ cubbies for caucasian kids

seriously universal suffrage must go

m0nty
m0nty
January 7, 2023 3:34 pm

Adjournment vote 217-217. Things going exceedingly well.

Dot
Dot
January 7, 2023 3:36 pm

Oh come on says:
January 7, 2023 at 3:05 pm
Interesting thing if the world splits into a US-led bloc and a rival Eurasian bloc. Australia and Canada will need to be to the US what Russia is going to be to China.

We don’t have to do jack.

American lawmakers won’t approve us to get “competitive” weapons platforms.

America is not the America we have in our minds and they (their awful government) can get screwed.

We can even ally with India if we wanted or go it alone.

How are we going to fend off China if it takes 20, 30 years to get weapons platforms delivered if at all?

miltonf
miltonf
January 7, 2023 3:36 pm

Why aren’t there fist fights? Uniparty.

yep remember when pissie crime was defending Tony Burka and Burka’s junkets?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 7, 2023 3:41 pm

Farmer Gezsays:

January 7, 2023 at 3:01 pm

HAL 9000

I built a HAL 9000 using parts from an Electrolux upright vacuum, a Victa 2-stroke mower and a pop-up sprinkler.

miltonf
miltonf
January 7, 2023 3:41 pm
Dot
Dot
January 7, 2023 3:41 pm

Gaetz is clever.

He is the most prominent Republican now for 2024.

JC
JC
January 7, 2023 3:43 pm

Dot,
I don’t think there’s any hope for Russia by kneepadding to the yellow man. China is their future enemy and not a friend. Ironically, the only close ally I see for Russia in the medium to long term is the US and maybe Europe.

The US and Russia will eventually team up for space because whomever holds the higher ground wins. China will just keep taking from Russia at a massive discount. They will realize this soon enough. Putin has to go too.

JC
JC
January 7, 2023 3:45 pm

Bullshit sanchez . You recently said you used an old car tire as parts.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 7, 2023 3:45 pm

Pop up sprinkler.

I think we have phrasing issues, Dave.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 7, 2023 3:49 pm

Michael Smith News has the front pages of 4 UK papers regarding Harry.

I think he is going to need a team of therapists now.

Good luck if he returns to the UK as I think his reputation has gone down the toilet.

But hey the money is good for dishing dirt on your own family.

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