Open Thread – Tue 10 Jan 2023


The Siesta, Camille Pissarro, 1899


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Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
January 10, 2023 1:19 am
Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
January 10, 2023 1:24 am

Well, here’s an early break for the up-late WA mob.

Had a chance to meet WA Premier Mark McGowan on the weekend. I won’t overdo the detail, but very close friend of our family knows his family, and we were holidaying together in a small and isolated location.
The man is a coward and a crawler. He ducked every opportunity to say gday. He might whine about threats, but if he’s too gutless to walk across a 3/4 empty family pub- or too lordy to do it and say a bashful thanks for a minute and keep walking, we are a polite bunch after all- then he can go f*ck himself.
His kids are actually great, his wife is lovely.
But, telling exchange-
She- “Oh Mark loves people, but he knows if he walks across the dining area it’ll take him an hour, and it’s important that he spends time with us on these trips.”
Me- “Right. So who’s the fellas he’s latched onto in the corner with, while we’re all here?”
She- “Oh that’s his security detail, he gets on great with them.”

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
January 10, 2023 1:27 am

I dedicate this thread to the glory of the great glistening studded codpiece of our Chief Protector Of The Natives, Premier M-DAMN YOU PLASMA!!!!!!

rickw
rickw
January 10, 2023 2:14 am

Oh Mark loves people

But hates their brutal appraisals of his arrogance and stupidity.

Tom
Tom
January 10, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
January 10, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
January 10, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
January 10, 2023 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
January 10, 2023 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
January 10, 2023 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
January 10, 2023 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
January 10, 2023 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
January 10, 2023 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
January 10, 2023 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
January 10, 2023 4:15 am
Helen
Helen
January 10, 2023 4:55 am

In Darwin, big earthquake, woke me up with bed shaking, went on for about 30 secs or more

Helen
Helen
January 10, 2023 5:02 am

7:4 apparsntly

Johnny Rotten
January 10, 2023 5:11 am

A local charity realised that it had never received a donation from the town’s most successful lawyer. The volunteer in charge of contributions called him to persuade him to contribute.

“Our research shows that out of a yearly income of more than $600,000 you give not a penny to charity. Wouldn’t you like to give back to the community in some way?” The lawyer mulled this over for a moment and replied “First, did your research also show that my mother is dying after a long illness, and has medical bills that are several times her annual income?” Embarrassed, the charity rep mumbled “Um… No”.

“Second, that my brother, a disabled veteran, is blind and confined to a wheelchair?” The stricken rep began to stammer out an apology but was put off.

“Third, that my sister’s husband died in a traffic accident” the lawyer’s voice rising in indignation “Leaving her penniless with three children?”

The humiliated rep, completely beaten, said simply “I had no idea…”

On a roll, the lawyer cut him off once again”… and I don’t give any money to them, so why should I give any to you?!”

Helen
Helen
January 10, 2023 5:12 am

Any advances on 7.8?

Johnny Rotten
January 10, 2023 5:12 am

It is health that is real wealth and not pieces of gold and silver.

– Mahatma Gandhi

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 10, 2023 5:58 am

Any advances on 7.8?

USGS has it as a 7.6 at 95 km depth. Looks like it missed major population centres.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
January 10, 2023 6:01 am

Helen, the USGS website says a 7.6 around 200km east of Timor-Leste at 0317 Darwin time, followed by a 5.4 aftershock at 0339.

sfw
sfw
January 10, 2023 6:07 am

I generally like beautiful well groomed women, but I can make an exception for a great trashy blonde, and they don’t get much better than Dale Bozzio, pretty catchy song too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX86s8fHgkI

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
January 10, 2023 6:08 am

The Australian website.

https://earthquakes.ga.gov.au/

bons
bons
January 10, 2023 6:41 am

Ouch Helen.
30 seconds in an earthquake feels like a lifetime, especially with the din made by aluminium fly screens rattling in their frames.
Scary stuff. No damage hopefully.

calli
calli
January 10, 2023 7:00 am

Question from Ye Ole Fredde about the citrus in an ancient orchard.

Lemon – check the branches. If they are full of large long thorns, the rootstock has overtaken the grafted plant. The lemons this produces varies depending on the rootstock – usually globes or ovals with thick rinds. Sometimes they remain green too. All of this can be cut away to expose the grafted plant, should one survive. If not…out it comes.

Small, delicious oranges…possibly an early cultivar (I think Burnley introduced some Mediterranean cvs early 20th century). Obviously very hardy (because survival). Keep. You may find that if it’s fed and watered the fruit will be larger…a fun experiment for next year.

You can, of course, take hardwood cuttings in winter and grow them on their own roots. On grafts – always check the rootstock. Never, ever plant red dragon rootstock in the open garden, only in pots. It is a dwarf and the trees never seem to do well. Pots are okay as you have a more controlled environment.

Mater
January 10, 2023 7:02 am

Campaigners are calling on Immigration Minister Andrew Giles to deny a visa to influential anti-vaccine activist and COVID-19 misinformation spreader Peter McCullough.

The only way the f’cking turds in the TGA and Government can win this debate is by not having it.

The same will apply to ‘The Voice’ referendum.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 10, 2023 7:08 am

Had a chance to meet WA Premier Mark McGowan on the weekend.

Badly advised if he won’t meet people when out and about. Aussies hate that, and it will cost him votes.

calli
calli
January 10, 2023 7:17 am

Rosie, I may have sped read that article, but to my old eyes, nowhere does it say what the gobbledegook alphanumeric names for the vaxxes are.

For those reading, it’s a comparison between Pfizer (Cominarty) and Moderna (Spikevax).

I wish these researchers took the trouble to type a couple of extra words to make their papers a bit clearer, otherwise they are as transparent as mud. No wonder conspiracy theorists get hold of them and go reeeeeeee! 🙂

Gabor
Gabor
January 10, 2023 7:19 am

Top Ender says:
January 10, 2023 at 7:08 am

Had a chance to meet WA Premier Mark McGowan on the weekend.

Badly advised if he won’t meet people when out and about. Aussies hate that, and it will cost him votes.

Unless he does a Campbell Newman, he is in no danger.

Gabor
Gabor
January 10, 2023 7:23 am

PS,
Or do a Jeff Kenneth for that matter. Hubris usually gets you undone, not always, sadly.

calli
calli
January 10, 2023 7:26 am

And in the vein of “everyone loves a good conspiracy”, my comment last night about cockups and coverups was pretty straightforward. It’s something that plays out every day in various places and ways, from offices to building sites, classrooms to halls of power.

The fact that Ed zoomed in on it with his usual “withering” ad hom style should be a clue. That no one “upticked” it…well I can live with that. A tear shed from my left eye should do the trick. 🙂

132andBush
132andBush
January 10, 2023 7:27 am

Calli,
Thank you, I will re visit when things finish up here and check that all out.
Sheep are grazed in the area in order to keep grass controlled and camp under the trees so there is a bit of nutrient concentration in that respect.
According to owner the oranges have always been small and the lemons don’t have thorns.

Will be taking a few cuttings and see how they go.

Also thanks, Walli from previous OT.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 10, 2023 7:30 am

Tale of woe!

Back To The Horse & Cart (9 Jan)

“The spark is gone — you’re better off walking than relying on useless, unreliable vehicles and chargers that never work
As I watch my family strike out on foot across the fields into driving rain and gathering darkness, my wife holding each child’s hand, our new year plans in ruins, while I do what I can to make our dead car safe before abandoning it a mile short of home, full of luggage on a country lane, it occurs to me not for the first time that if we are going to save the planet we will have to find another way. Because electric cars are not the answer.
Yes, it’s the Jaguar again. My doomed bloody £65,000 iPace that has done nothing but fail at everything it was supposed to do for more than two years now, completely dead this time, its lifeless corpse blocking the single-track road.
I can’t even roll it to a safer spot because it can’t be put in neutral. For when an electric car dies, it dies hard. And then lies there as big and grey and not-going-anywhere as the poacher-slain bull elephant I once saw rotting by a roadside in northern Kenya. Just a bit less smelly.”

I had a look at his wiki, he’s not really a lefty although he’s worked at the BBC in the past. However Mr Coren does seem to be a bit tealish when it comes to climate rubbish, so I think a healthy slug of schadenfreude is merited.

Indolent
Indolent
January 10, 2023 7:31 am
Top Ender
Top Ender
January 10, 2023 7:32 am

Herald-Sun:

MOST Victorians want local councils abolished or are unsure if they should exist, with Millennials among the biggest supporters of a shake-up.

Exclusive polling by leading firm RedBridge, commissioned by the Herald Sun, also shows that 57 per cent are in support of council mergers and believe there should be bigger local government bodies to cut costs and share resources.

Meanwhile, a third of residents think their councils have the wrong priorities.

The same article is running a poll, which at present has 80% saying councils should be abolished:

calli
calli
January 10, 2023 7:32 am

You know, I’m starting to warm to Harry and Meghan. The press hates them so much, and so uniformly, that there must be something worthwhile in what they’re doing.

Whatever it is, it’s a great distraction from all the other important stuff. Like freezing to death because you’ve run out of kitty litter to burn.

Indolent
Indolent
January 10, 2023 7:33 am

We seem to be in the news for all the wrong reasons.

Exclusive: 6X higher death rate post-vax in Australia nursing home!

Indolent
Indolent
January 10, 2023 7:40 am

Without the fear campaign and gaslighting we would have forgotten about Covid years ago, if it ever became a thing in the first place, that is.

Are ‘Kraken’ fears overblown? Experts say XBB.1.5 variant is NOT spreading as quickly as feared

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 10, 2023 7:43 am

Helen, the Captain assures me it wasn’t an earthquake. Was is it good for you too?

calli
calli
January 10, 2023 7:44 am

I wonder if your lemon is the old bush lemon? Grandma had one in the backyard. Tough as.

Indolent
Indolent
January 10, 2023 7:46 am
Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
January 10, 2023 7:46 am

If we look at the world today in isolation from the past and the future, the forces of secularism may seem triumphant. This, however, is but a moment in the life of humanity, and it does not possess the promise of stability and permanence.

— Christopher Dawson

I think there’s something for us all in this quote of Christopher Henry Dawson. Such a pity that there are those who want to destroy the past to build a ‘better future’ with no reference point.

rosie
rosie
January 10, 2023 7:49 am

BNT162b2 is the research name of ‘pfizer’.
mrna-1273 is the research name of ‘moderna’

calli
calli
January 10, 2023 7:49 am

Bruce, I noticed from his Wiki that McCoren’s iPace had been stolen more than once. He should have hoped it remained stolen.

Enjoyed his series Supersizers with Sue Perkins. Seems aeons ago.

rosie
rosie
January 10, 2023 7:52 am

Accordingly, the estimated risk ratio was 1.57, presented as events per 10,000 individuals.

Moderna outperformed pfizer.

calli
calli
January 10, 2023 7:54 am

Everyone should know that Rosie! It’s just sooooo obvious. 😀

My point was that, by not making it clear, they are doing themselves no favours. Unless these research papers are not really meant for the general public at all. All it does is add to the perceived lack of transparency surrounding everything to do with the vaxx.

rosie
rosie
January 10, 2023 7:57 am

My kids loved supersizers.
Actually was quite informative.
Iirc English upper classes were introduced to vegetables after the constipation death of someone’s wife, before that it was meat for breakfast lunch and tea.

calli
calli
January 10, 2023 7:57 am

I don’t know how Giles suddenly became a scotsman – it’s Coren only.

132andBush
132andBush
January 10, 2023 8:03 am

Calli,
That’s them!
Huge segments like an orange and lime yellow coloured fruit.
May be other varieties there as well but that’s the one I peeled and tasted.

rosie
rosie
January 10, 2023 8:13 am

I’m guessing research papers are meant for the research community.
To be honest I didn’t find differentiating between the two confusing at all, the statistics stuff, another story.
Why is it a problem only for vaccine research? It’s the same for cancer, genetic illnesses and anything else in medical literature intended for professionals.
I started reading this kind of material when a family member was born with a rare genetic condition, it’s hard work for laymen.

132andBush
132andBush
January 10, 2023 8:18 am

Weatherzone predicting 37 for Horsham tomorrow, after an overnight low of 11 and forecast winds in the southern quarters.
Let’s see how that goes!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 10, 2023 8:21 am

Another tale of woe!

Limited Run Games canceled an employee to appease the woke mob – it’s not going well for them (9 Jan, via Instapundit)

LRG is about to learn the meaning of GWGB.

Crossie
Crossie
January 10, 2023 8:22 am

This morning I have been informed by a newsreader that a weather girl in a tight dress and high heels is a meteorologist. The most you could say about these chicks is that they are media influencers.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 10, 2023 8:26 am

My understanding is that Moderna is a stronger dose. It has more countries than Pfizer that implemented rules about not taking it below certain ages, particularly in Europe.

lotocoti
lotocoti
January 10, 2023 8:27 am

I had a look at his wiki, he’s not really a lefty although he’s worked at the BBC in the past.

He’s very much in the shadow of his old man, who edited Punch, and was a glorious scribe.
His sister is way over on the right hand side of the bell curve too.

calli
calli
January 10, 2023 8:32 am

And…on those mystery oranges…

I’ve just remembered where I’ve seen them before. Quirindi, just north or the silos on Station Street (opposite 82 on Google street view). You can even see them growing on the bushes! They are on railway land, so don’t get any irrigation or fertiliser, just what nature provides.

The fruit is small and abundant. The trees looked quite old. When I was there about a year ago there were people picking them into buckets. I was going to go over to ask the pickers what they were like, but had a sudden attack of the “shys” and didn’t. Wish I had now.

mem
mem
January 10, 2023 8:33 am

Michael Smith has some great clips on at the moment. I can’t decide between Albo explaining that The Voice to Parliament is without detail on how it will work because this will be worked out by Parliament from time to time or Bowen talking about natural disasters being unnatural.
Albo’s clip: https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/01/therapeutic-albanese-couldnt-be-clearer-about-the-voice-vote-first-find-out-what-for-later.html
Bowen’s clip: https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/01/a-nugget-of-pure-bowen-bullshit.html

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2023 8:34 am

Indolentsays:

January 10, 2023 at 7:31 am

Adam Baldwin
@AdamBaldwin

R.I.P. Adam Rich.

What a charmer.

So he was pro-vax.
But he still died by suicide, you moron.

calli
calli
January 10, 2023 8:35 am

I’m guessing research papers are meant for the research community.

Good guess. Nerds gotta nerd.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 10, 2023 8:36 am

Pogria no more Alberic Barbier. It was 25 years ago, everyone has moved. My sister may have taken a cutting with her but as she removed the roses after BiL died. He was the rose guy and she is not an avid gardener.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 10, 2023 8:40 am

A tight dress and high heels is not a question of whether she will or whether she won’t if her name is britnee.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2023 8:41 am

Indolentsays:

January 10, 2023 at 7:33 am

We seem to be in the news for all the wrong reasons.

Exclusive: 6X higher death rate post-vax in Australia nursing home!

Sure.
He invites all and sundry to fact-check then refers to “a nursing home in Melbourne Australia” which he doesn’t name.
Pretty hard to fact-check when he doesn’t provide facts.
Of course, the unwitting acolyte from Bumf*ck, South Dakota will google that and probably find paywalled stories about Covid deaths at St Basils.
You’re batting 0 and 2 this morning you panic merchant.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 10, 2023 8:42 am

The man is a coward and a crawler

Never met him but you don’t end up being called Sneakers if you’re a good guy to go to with the pub on Friday after knock off. An ex-Navy lawyer isn’t a great start.

lotocoti
lotocoti
January 10, 2023 8:43 am

A feckin’ Green, but of course.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2023 8:43 am

And ….

IT’S THE FINAL DAY TO SAVE THE EXPOSE – SO LET’S CUT THE BULLSH*T & GET TO THE POINT -WE WILL BE FORCED TO DOWN TOOLS & SHUT DOWN UNLESS WE ARE FULLY FUNDED TODAY – Sadly, less than 0.1% of readers currently support us. But YOU can easily change that. Imagine the impact we’d make if 9 in 10 readers supported us today. To start with we’d remove this annoying banner as we could fight for a full year…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 10, 2023 8:47 am

This morning I have been informed by a newsreader that a weather girl in a tight dress and high heels is a meteorologist. The most you could say about these chicks is that they are media influencers.

Just hope they aren’t like Nicole Kidman in To Die For.
Not quite your usual weathergirl!

calli
calli
January 10, 2023 8:47 am

Ross Roses sell Alberic Barbier. Just looked it up. Honeysuckle Cottage at Bowen Mountain used to be a good source for heritage roses, but sadly that closed long ago.

All the old specialist nurserymen and women are a dying breed. And the big commercial nurseries aren’t interested in propagating rarities. For all the “greening” and “tealing”, youngsters just aren’t that interested any more.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 10, 2023 8:50 am

Forget climate DOOOOM! theres a new kid on the block.

The global loss of pollinators is already causing about 500,000 early deaths a year by reducing the supply of healthy foods, a study has estimated.

Three-quarters of crops require pollination but the populations of many insects are in sharp decline. The inadequate pollination that results has caused a 3%-5% loss of fruit, vegetable and nut production, the research found. The lower consumption of these foods means about 1% of all deaths can now be attributed to pollinator loss, the scientists said.

The researchers considered deaths from heart disease, stroke, diabetes, and some cancers, all of which can be reduced with healthier diets. The study is the first to quantify the human health toll of insufficient wild pollinators.

The study was based on data from hundreds of farms across the world, information on yields and diet-related health risks and a computer model that tracks the global trade in food.

GIGO
Garbage in, Garbage out.

Helen
Helen
January 10, 2023 8:52 am

Thanks for the linky re earthquake, we on third floor of Novotel and nearly threw me out of bed (slight exaggeration) but it was really rocking. Didn’t feel the aftershock.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 10, 2023 8:54 am

Gabor

Unless he does a Campbell Newman, he is in no danger.

Yep, he’s there for as long as he likes. The Liars have the same problem as Emperor Barney. No surprise they both assumed Premier and Treasurer. The rest of Cabinet is a talentless mushroom farm. Cook is probably OK but seems happy enough to be sidelined after Covid.

Cassie of Sydney
January 10, 2023 8:56 am

Local council priorities…from BDS to banning leather. From The Daily Telegraph. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, a right-wing political march through the political institutions must begin locally. This is where the rot begins, and this is where the rot needs to be headbutted.

North Sydney council’s plan to ban leather and fur at its events

Fur and leather products could be black-listed by one Sydney council after a motion to see the items banned from council property and events — including sports equipment.

Residents will no longer be able to sell or make clothing, shoes, or handbags from real fur as of 2023, however the legislation does not apply to leather, cow hides, goat and sheep skin.

North Sydney council is preparing an official policy governing fur and leather, in a move which could ban iconic RM Williams boots, leather bags, and a large array of sporting equipment on council sports fields.

It can be revealed that councillors voted to seek advice on “retiring” any “controversial” fur and leather items in its possession, noting that it “disapproves of the creation of any new items of leather or fur”.

North Sydney Council spent its final meeting of the year debating a controversial motion to ban the use of fur and leather in council events or on council property.

The motion was introduced by Sustainable Australia Party councillor Georgia Lamb, who insisted she was trying to protect the council from cancel culture.

However, after Ms Lamb was told council chairs were made with leather, she amended her motion to seek advice before imposing any potential ban.

The council is now preparing its fur and leather policy, which will be considered at a later date.

Ms Lamb will contest the seat of North Shore for the Sustainable Australia Party at the March election.

Former mayor Jilly Gibson, the only councillor to vote against the motion, called it un-Australian and a bad use of council resources.

She wanted the original proposal would have had far reaching and unintended consequences, including a potential ban on leather boots or Akubra hats (made from rabbit fur).

“If you take the motion literally, Akubra hats wouldn’t be able to be worn on sporting grounds,” she said.

“How Australian are RM Williams boots or an Akubra hat?”

Ms Gibson said the motion was “put forward with good intentions but wasn’t well thought out”.

“It shouldn’t have come forward on the floor of council,” Ms Gibson said.

The original motion would have led North Sydney Council to have an “official stance” opposing leather or fur being used in official council events or on council property.

Ms Gibson said that could have banned sporting equipment or leather football boots on council-managed fields including St Leonards Park and Waverton Park.

North Sydney Council came under fire from residents earlier this month for a badly managed New Year’s Eve event which led to massive queues at Bradfield Park.

Ms Gibson praised Ms Lamb as a “wonderful addition” to the council, bringing a “different perspective,” but said her proposed leather ban was flawed.

Ms Lamb was elected in the 2021 local government elections as a 20 year old University of NSW student.

In the council meeting she said her proposal was “about the cultural movement of protecting animals and creating further respect for them by rejecting our historic cruelty”.

“I was simply trying to protect this council from future controversies if they so arise,” she said.”

Someone should advise Ms Lamb to change her surname.

calli
calli
January 10, 2023 8:56 am

If we are, in fact, cooling down then the pollinator loss is understandable and predictable. But that would mean a complete turnaround in thinking for Da Modellers.

That’s just insects, of course. Then there are mammals, particularly bats. What could possibly affect bat numbers? Bird mincers? Also, a huge proportion of our crops are wind pollinated.

Stop “farming” that wind and Save The Planet! 😀

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2023 8:58 am

North Sydney council’s plan to ban leather and fur at its events

So no First Nations possum skin coats, then?

Dot
Dot
January 10, 2023 9:00 am

Fur and leather products could be black-listed by one Sydney council after a motion to see the items banned from council property and events — including sports equipment.

Eff off pals, you’re a local council FFS! Fix some potholes and make the pubic toilets not smell like cum and linden trees!

calli
calli
January 10, 2023 9:01 am

In the council meeting she said her proposal was “about the cultural movement of protecting animals and creating further respect for them by rejecting our historic cruelty”.

What, then, will be the replacement material? Plastic?

Idiots.

WolfmanOz
January 10, 2023 9:01 am

Cassie of Sydney says:
January 10, 2023 at 8:56 am

Cassie – you should ask Dover to let you write a weekly post . . . Cassie’s Rant of the Week . . . it would be a hoot !

Indolent
Indolent
January 10, 2023 9:02 am

Sasha Latypova explained pretty clearly yesterday why all danger signals were ignored.

UK age stratified all cause death data shows higher deaths associated with covid vaccination

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 10, 2023 9:02 am

Top Ender at 7:32 am
Herald-Sun

MOST Victorians want local councils abolished or are unsure if they should exist, with Millennials among the biggest supporters of a shake-up.

Emperor Barney tried to amalgamate a few councils at the end of his dynasty. The greatest hotbeds of self interest you could ever find.

Helen Davidson (nmrn)
Helen Davidson (nmrn)
January 10, 2023 9:04 am

Thanks for the linky re earthquake, we on third floor of Novotel and nearly threw me out of bed (slight exaggeration) but it was really rocking. Didn’t feel the aftershock.

Given the shaking, I’m surprised we’re not reading about more damage. I’ve never felt anything like it before and it seemed to go on and on.

Hubby says he felt the aftershock, but it was only minor. I missed it, must have already fallen back asleep.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 10, 2023 9:07 am

Thanks for the linky re earthquake, we on third floor of Novotel and nearly threw me out of bed (slight exaggeration) but it was really rocking. Didn’t feel the aftershock.

I worked in Aceh doing disaster medicine after the 2003 Tsunami. We had daily ‘aftershocks*’ in the 7’s .. I’m guessing these were quite shallow as they were very audible. You would hear the earth groaning way off in the distance, then the buildings would shake and sway for 30 seconds or so – not fun given their damaged state and the numerous collapsed buildings around. I have twice since been woken from sleep by small quakes in Adelaide, and found myself rushing out of the house onto the lawn as a result.

*Fun fact: they are only ‘aftershocks’ if they are smaller than the original quake – they can be larger, in which case the original quake becomes a ‘foreshock’.

Crossie
Crossie
January 10, 2023 9:09 am

Cassie, the North Sydney councillors should only be allowed to come to meetings in wooden clogs. Every other form of footwear is made either from leather or plastics that come from fossil fuels. It’s actually poetically apt, windmill power and clogs – both Dutch inventions.

Robert Sewell
January 10, 2023 9:09 am

Bruce O’Newk:

LRG is about to learn the meaning of GWGB.

That entire episode was a classic of two faced administrators who went with the mob.
I wonder if they’re broke yet?

Pogria
Pogria
January 10, 2023 9:09 am

GreyRanga,
thanks for your reply. It is sad when a loved plant is lost. Fortunately, Calli has come up trumps with the name of a nursery that supplies Alberic Barbier.

What appeals to me most though, is although I can buy the same rose, I have always loved receiving a cutting from a well-loved plant. It is a form of continuity that is rare these days. While it is nice to say “I bought this at such and such”, it is really lovely to know that you have kept a plant that was a part of history, growing in your own plot.

Wouldn’t it be great to do a midnight run with secateurs through Cruden Farm? 😀

Crossie
Crossie
January 10, 2023 9:10 am

OK, maybe neither clogs or windmills were invented by the Dutch but they certainly popularised them.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2023 9:13 am

Crossiesays:

January 10, 2023 at 9:10 am

OK, maybe neither clogs or windmills were invented by the Dutch but they certainly popularised them.

The Dutch invented the hash cookie and bugger-all else.

Crossie
Crossie
January 10, 2023 9:13 am

Pogria, before she back too old and unable to garden any longer my mother transferred a lot of her beloved plants to my garden. I have lost a few during the big wet but at least none of hers.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 10, 2023 9:16 am

Wouldn’t it be great to do a midnight run with secateurs through Cruden Farm?

Follow them on Instagram. Kicking myself I didn’t get there (or even know about it) while in Melbournibad. The book about Dame Elizabeth and her gardener is great.

Crossie
Crossie
January 10, 2023 9:16 am

So by North Sydney councillors decision we should all only be allowed to wear grass skirts and coconut shells for bras. Leather loincloths are verboten.

I had no idea they were such Gilligan’s Island fans.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 10, 2023 9:19 am

lotocotisays:
January 10, 2023 at 8:43 am
A feckin’ Green, but of course.

From the pic – separated at birth?

Cassie of Sydney
January 10, 2023 9:19 am

“Cassie – you should ask Dover to let you write a weekly post . . . Cassie’s Rant of the Week . . . it would be a hoot !”

LOL. Thank you Wolf! Last night on the old fred a commentator here accused me of “blasting” and advised me that “blasting” isn’t conducive to “human relations”. Now normally I might heed such advice and whilst this commentator might have a point, this commentator has a long and tawdry history of often unfairly and cruelly “blasting” other commentators here, and usually for no good reason.

This commentator described me as “mad Cassie”. Am I “mad”? Nah, but I am eccentric as many of my friends will attest. Anyway, I prefer the label “ranting Cassie” because, yes, I do like a good rant!

Crossie
Crossie
January 10, 2023 9:19 am

Now, just a minute all those people who object to leather and polyester clothes. Wearing plant based clothes is also not acceptable. There are quite a few people out there who insist that plants feel pain too so harvesting plant fibres for clothes is out.

This would all be fine if we still lived in the Garden of Eden and nobody ate the forbidden fruit.

Pogria
Pogria
January 10, 2023 9:20 am

Crossie, that is so wonderful to hear.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 10, 2023 9:22 am

Getting free plants (or making your own) is one of the best bits of gardening. Never reached the stage of walking the streets with secateurs but usually have a couple of trays of forestry tubes on the go at any given time.

Crossie
Crossie
January 10, 2023 9:22 am

Anything the greens and environmentalists advocate cannot but eventually lead to reductio ad absurdum.

Roger
Roger
January 10, 2023 9:22 am

ABC RN AM today coming to you from Gadigal land.

No, not a remote broadcast, but ABC HQ Harris St Ultimo Sydney.

Hope they’re paying a generous rent to those they consider its owners.

Pogria
Pogria
January 10, 2023 9:23 am

Crossie, re your writing that some people believe plants feel pain, in the eighties I remember reading an article titled “have you ever heard a Tomato scream?”.
If I recall, it was pushback on the anti-meat propaganda at the time. Well written.

Johnny Rotten
January 10, 2023 9:24 am

CDC Finally Releases VAERS Safety Monitoring Analyses For COVID Vaccines

SUMMARY
CDC’s VAERS safety signal analysis based on reports from Dec. 14, 2020 – July 29, 2022 for mRNA COVID-19 vaccines shows clear safety signals for death and a range of highly concerning thrombo-embolic, cardiac, neurological, hemorrhagic, hematological, immune-system and menstrual adverse events (AEs) among U.S. adults.

There were 770 different types of adverse events that showed safety signals in ages 18+, of which over 500 (or 2/3) had a larger safety signal than myocarditis/pericarditis.

The CDC analysis shows that the number of serious adverse events reported in less than two years for mRNA COVID-19 vaccines is 5.5 times larger than all serious reports for vaccines given to adults in the US since 2009 (~73,000 vs. ~13,000).

Twice as many mRNA COVID-19 vaccine reports were classified as serious compared to all other vaccines given to adults (11% vs. 5.5%). This meets the CDC definition of a safety signal.

There are 96 safety signals for 12-17 year-olds, which include: myocarditis, pericarditis, Bell’s Palsy, genital ulcerations, high blood pressure and heartrate, menstrual irregularities, cardiac valve incompetencies, pulmonary embolism, cardiac arrhythmias, thromboses, pericardial and pleural effusion, appendicitis and perforated appendix, immune thrombocytopenia, chest pain, increased troponin levels, being in intensive care, and having anticoagulant therapy.

There are 66 safety signals for 5-11 year-olds, which include: myocarditis, pericarditis, ventricular dysfunction and cardiac valve incompetencies, pericardial and pleural effusion, chest pain, appendicitis & appendectomies, Kawasaki’s disease, menstrual irregularities, vitiligo, and vaccine breakthrough infection.

The safety signals cannot be dismissed as due to “stimulated,” exaggerated, fraudulent or otherwise artificially inflated reporting, nor can they be dismissed due to the huge number of COVID vaccines administered. There are several reasons why, but the simplest one is this: the safety signal analysis does not depend on the number of reports, but whether or not some AEs are reported at a higher rate for these vaccines than for other non-COVID vaccines. Other reasons are discussed in the full post below.

In August, 2022, the CDC told the Epoch Times that the results of their safety signal analysis “were generally consistent with EB [Empirical Bayesian] data mining [conducted by the FDA], revealing no additional unexpected safety signals.” So either the FDA’s data mining was consistent with the CDC’s method—meaning they “generally” found the same large number of highly alarming safety signals—or the signals they did find were expected. Or they were lying. We may never know because the FDA has refused to release their data mining results.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/cdc-finally-releases-vaers-safety-monitoring-analyses-covid-vaccines

Roger
Roger
January 10, 2023 9:24 am

“Cassie – you should ask Dover to let you write a weekly post . . . Cassie’s Rant of the Week . . . it would be a hoot !”

They’re not rants…they’re focused applications of righteous anger.

mem
mem
January 10, 2023 9:26 am

Here is an interesting read on the history of the use of the word “zero” and its increasing contemporary usage. For my part I would tender that the usage of the term ‘NET ZERO” has been deliberately adopted by the climate movement to provide a goal that sounds “sciency” but is nevertheless intangible and can only be “measured” by “accredited experts”. Ask any person on the street what net zero means and you will get either a blank look or stumbling verbiage. Yet here we are destroying our electrical system to attain a goal that no one understands. https://dailysceptic.org/2023/01/09/the-politics-of-zero/

Robert Sewell
January 10, 2023 9:26 am

Calli:
If we are, in fact, cooling down then the pollinator loss is understandable and predictable. But that would mean a complete turnaround in thinking for Da Modellers.

I was thinking of getting a beehive, but the rigmarole of permissions and paperwork!
Forget it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 10, 2023 9:27 am

Hope they’re [the ALPBC] paying a generous rent to those they consider its owners.

I’m sure we will in due course.

Cassie of Sydney
January 10, 2023 9:28 am

Further to the North Sydney council jihad against leather and fur, this shows why any fightback needs to begin with local councils. It was in the local councils where the Greens and other lunatic far-left groups such as the “Animal Justice” party began their long and insidious march through the institutions. They’ve began locally and are now populating our state and federal parliaments, causing considerable damage.

Gabor
Gabor
January 10, 2023 9:29 am

Robert Sewell says:
January 10, 2023 at 9:26 am

I was thinking of getting a beehive, but the rigmarole of permissions and paperwork!
Forget it.

You are joshing us, why would you need a permit for a beehive?

Cassie of Sydney
January 10, 2023 9:32 am

I have a dress made from bamboo. Bamboo is actually quite a useful plant.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 10, 2023 9:34 am

Alan Coren, referred to above, was a terrific writer. Here’s one of his columns satirising Idi Amin, who is wondering how he can get his hands on more US weapons.

Best read aloud to oneself, if you can get the accent approximate:

Where Is You, Adolf Hitler, Now We Needin’ You?
The Collected Bulletins Of President Idi Amin by Alan Coren (Punch 18/7/1973)

ALL RIGHT, we makin a ricket on de Peace Corpse lot. Turn out dey ain’t de advance guard o’ de 17th/21st Nigerian Light Horse wid big eyes on de radio station an’ de late Indian supermarkets, an’ dey ain’t Israelis, neither. So what? Don’t mean they ain’t subversives, comin’ down here an’ interferin’ wid de smoothe runnin’ o’ de Dark Continent, an’ it don’t mean dey ain’t Jews, neither, can’t let a load o’ Jews slip through de net jus’ on account o’ they got de American passport, you think de famous Adolf Hitler wot already bin pubberlickly admired by me woulda got to de top if he botherin’ about readin’ every bit o’ paper wot landin’ on his desk? Sit aroun’ readin’ six million passports, before you know it de oven gone out, de Second Front openin’ an’ you never gittin’ around to de final solution. All de top SS men, you spendin’ a fortune on de trainin’ an’ de flash uniforms etcetera, all standin’ aroun’ Auschwitz an’ Dachau an’ so on lookin’ at de watches an’ wonderin’ why no-one turnin’ up, ain’t no way to run a progressive country.

Got no time for de Peace Corpse, anyhow. Load o’ freakies only comin’ over here on account of we growin’ de good stuff, couple o’ deep puffs on de well-known Kampala Gold, feel like your head got legs. Soon as dey finished, dey starts bombin’ roun’ de countryside tryin’ to pull de good works, gittin’ de people all confused wid de irrigation schemes an’ de intensive dairyfarmin’ an’ followin’ ’em roun’ wid de tape recorders tryin’ to grab fust rights on de folk songs, before you know it, everybody sittin’ roun’ on de groun’ shoutin’ crap like “We all brudders, yeah, yeah, we into de peace bag, man, everybody gittin’ to love one anudder, dat de way it is, we ain’t gonna be moved, black an’ white together, wow, heavy, man, and so forth.”

Fat lotta use, who de hell want de peace stuff, gimme de Gaddafi technique, he comin’ over here with de famous Kalachnikov 9mm machine gun in de brown carrier bag an’ he showin’ everyone how you blows a head off at five hunnerd yards, dat de sort o’ foreign aid we lookin’ for. Where Africa gonna be, everyone sittin’ roun’ on de bum an’ lookin’ at de artesian wells, all it git you is a load o’ long grass. Ain’t no use havin’ long grass unless you gonna creep through it wid a view to puttin’ in de bayonet. How else you gonna rule de worl’?

What I want to know is, wot Nixon done wid de half million soldiers he pullin’ outa Vietnam, also guns, tanks, choppers, Phantoms, bombs, etcetera? All we gittin’ is a lotta Harvard rubbish in de granny glasses wid de hair on de shoulders goin’ round shovin’ test tubes in our cows an’ knockin’ ’em up.

Ain’t no way to build a empire.

alwaysright
alwaysright
January 10, 2023 9:35 am

I have a dress made from bamboo.

Dont buy the bamboo socks. Unless you dont mind them taking a few weeks to dry after washing.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 10, 2023 9:36 am

Bamboo is actually quite a useful plant

Best leave the planting up to others. Some are fine but why take the chance?

Gabor
Gabor
January 10, 2023 9:39 am

Cassie of Sydney says:
January 10, 2023 at 9:19 am

Now normally I might heed such advice and whilst this commentator might have a point, this commentator has a long and tawdry history of often unfairly and cruelly “blasting” other commentators here, and usually for no good reason.

She commented at Adam’s a few days ago, saying why she enjoyed the friendly atmosphere and lack of bickering there. /it was in response of continuing the blog or not.
Nearly fell off my chair, this coming from her.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 10, 2023 9:43 am

D-Town shaking.

In the normal course of events this would be attributed to me doing push ups in the backyard, but this time it would appear to be an earthquake.

Cassie of Sydney
January 10, 2023 9:44 am

“They’re not rants…they’re focused applications of righteous anger.”

Quite so, and my ire last Friday night’s dinner was directed at someone who’s previously taunted and mocked me before as a “Sky after Dark” viewer and so, when last Friday night, whilst I was speaking quite rationally and sensibly about Covid responses and I mentioned Florida and the name “Governor Ron DeSantis”, he raised his voice and started saying”….

“your friend Santos, your friend Santos, your friend Santos”, “your friend Santos is a liar”, “your friend Santos has lied about his education”, “your friend Santos has lied his military service”.

He was trying to put me down and ridicule me. Anyone who thinks this doesn’t warrant a verbal smack down is why we lose the culture wars, actually, is why we’ve LOST the culture wars.

Pogria
Pogria
January 10, 2023 9:48 am

We are always being told that China plays the “Long Game”.
Not when it comes to her own people.

Seems they didn’t think this last idea through.

Zipster
January 10, 2023 9:48 am

President Trump declared a Public Health Emergency (PHE) on March 13, 2020, under the Stafford Act, putting the National Security Council in charge of the Covid policy.Covid-19 vaccines are “medical countermeasures” – a grey area of products that are not regulated as vaccines or medicines.

“They put the National Security Council in charge and treated it as an act of war,” said Latypova.

According to Operation Warp Speed/ASPR reports, the DoD ordered, oversaw, and tightly managed the development, manufacture, and distribution of Covid countermeasures,mainly utilizing the DoD’s previously established network of military contractors and consortia.

Department of Defense, BARDA, and HHS ordered all Covid countermeasures, including “vaccines” as prototype demonstrations of large-scale manufacturing, avoiding regulations and transparency under Other Transaction Authority. As prototypes used under EUA during PHE, Covid countermeasures, including “vaccines,” need not comply with the U.S. laws for manufacturing quality, safety, and labeling.

calli
calli
January 10, 2023 9:49 am

Beekeeping? Just buy one.

Zipster
January 10, 2023 9:49 am

More Chinese Youth Stop Fearing and Defy the Firework Ban/2023: can’t afford to live, nor to die
China Insights
The “White Paper Revolution” has planted the seeds of non-violence and non-cooperation. Civil disobedience will become more decentralized, diverse in its demands, and more persistent. Therefore, even if the Chinese people don’t yell out slogans like ‘End the CCP,’ the CCP is still very scared because what this red party fears most is the people no longer fear.

Cassie of Sydney
January 10, 2023 9:51 am

“She commented at Adam’s a few days ago, saying why she enjoyed the friendly atmosphere and lack of bickering there. /it was in response of continuing the blog or not.
Nearly fell off my chair, this coming from her.”

Yep, she’s a hypocrite of the first order.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 10, 2023 9:54 am

The Bee Movie, with Seinfeld in it followed the theme of bee deficit = no crops = mass starvation. It came out some years ago.

Clearly, this was thought out by Oligarchs Inc. and executed as part of the Big Plan.

calli
calli
January 10, 2023 9:54 am

My kids are setting up a Flowhive on their NW Sydney property. It backs onto bushland, so there’s plenty of forage for the bees.

If you’re interested, I’ll keep you informed about how it’s going.

One thing – it isn’t cost effective for honey. But it will provide plenty of pollination for the garden with a side benefit. Downside – you have to be very, very careful with insecticides.

calli
calli
January 10, 2023 9:55 am

And no. I’m not a shill for Big Bee.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 10, 2023 10:00 am

One thing – it isn’t cost effective for honey.

None of these things ever are. Like a 32 foot Naiad for getting a few crays.

Pogria
Pogria
January 10, 2023 10:01 am

alwaysright,

the bamboo socks will dry more quickly now the days are longer. You are correct though, they do take ages to dry. The flip side is, if your socks get wet whilst wearing them, you don’t notice. I love bamboo socks. The best socks, in my humble opinion, that money can buy are these socks.
Not cheap, which is why I buy one pair at a time. But comfortable!!! Like stepping onto a fleece.
And NO, I am not affiliated with them in any way. Just adore their product.

calli
calli
January 10, 2023 10:05 am

I think we can all give as good as we get.

My take wasn’t criticism per se, but endless back and forthing over exactly nothing. Scrollworthy fighting and nitpicking, (as opposed to my scrollworthy drivelling.)

Now, let’s get back to the finer points of propagation… 😀

Pogria
Pogria
January 10, 2023 10:07 am

Calli, I am interested in how the beehive goes. Before I moved down here, friends of mine were doing a course on Flow Hives in preparation for having one of their own.
Next to a Rose Garden, keeping bees was my other goal.

Zipster
January 10, 2023 10:08 am

PLA sends 57 planes near Taiwan in high-intensity combat exercise
Taiwanese defence ministry releases flight path chart showing some aircraft appeared to form a blockade around the island

Roger
Roger
January 10, 2023 10:09 am

My take wasn’t criticism per se, but endless back and forthing over exactly nothing.

Speaking of which, Harry’s still going on about the bloody bridesmaid’s dresses.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 10, 2023 10:10 am

Kerry Stokes was Big Bee if you read your Kangaroo Court.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 10, 2023 10:12 am

Speaking of which, Harry’s still going on about the bloody bridesmaid’s dresses.

Was it the colour, size or fit for him?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 10, 2023 10:13 am

Harry Sparkles must be bleeding from the ring gear.

Numerous headlines today (in the Tele for one) are describing him as ‘the half price Prince’.

If he expected his book to prompt both a wave of anti-Royal opinion and a tsunami of cash flowing into his wallet, he’s being sorely disappointed.

Gabor
Gabor
January 10, 2023 10:14 am

it isn’t cost effective for honey.

I’m confused, how do beekeepers make a living?

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 10, 2023 10:16 am

Put me down on Team Bamboo Socks. Although I will admit they aren’t the best to get dry in winter. Drying shit is rarely an issue in Perf.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 10, 2023 10:16 am

In continuing the blog theme of guns,n roses it looks like the UK is trying for the “its just the tip, it doesnt count” in order to keep is WW3 virginity intact.

A step up from the frogs suppling their mobile 1970’s incinerators.

Britain is considering supplying a handful of Challenger 2 tanks to Ukraine, the first time a western country has indicated it may supply its homemade heavy armour to Kyiv in the war against Russia.
..
Last week, the US and Germany said they would provide 50 Bradley and 40 Marder fighting vehicles respectively.
..
That followed an announcement by France that it would provide a number – estimated at about 30 – of light AMX-10 RC armoured vehicles in what appeared to be a coordinated sequence of announcements.

Britain’s Ministry of Defence said: “The government has committed to match or exceed last year’s funding for military aid to Ukraine in 2023, and we will continue to build on recent donations with training and further gifting of equipment.”

Someone needs to gift all parties involved, Vlad the shirtless as well as Zelinsky the t shirted a copy of this.

calli
calli
January 10, 2023 10:21 am

Harry’s still going on about the bloody bridesmaid’s dresses.

Did his not fit properly?

Pogria
Pogria
January 10, 2023 10:22 am

Mole, I am about a quarter of the way through that book. It has been a real eye opener. What a convoluted background to the beginning of said war. It also make the hair rise on my skin when reading what the average person/worker is capable of when the perfect storm arises.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 10, 2023 10:23 am

Harold definitely is emasculated. Suffered through a minute of it by accident before chucking up. What a pathetic excuse for a former war veteran and anyone for that matter. I am sure he believes his farts don’t stink. He’d already won lotto by birth and threw it away for a skank.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 10, 2023 10:23 am

Kerry Stokes was Big Bee if you read your Kangaroo Court.

Stokes and Twiggy gobbled up most of the leases for beekeepers in WA.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-01/andrew-forrest-and-kerry-stokes-enter-honey-business/8669254
Mr Forrest’s Minderoo Group plans to start exporting premium WA honey under its Harvest Road brand to China, as well as other Asian countries, and the Middle East within a month.

With a stake worth about $29 million, Mr Stokes, via his company Wroxby Pty Ltd, is by far the biggest shareholder in the ASX-listed Capilano Honey, which dominates the domestic market but is also keen to tap into international demand.

Story our ex-mine manager who keeps bees told, was Twiggy was after some various products for gift baskets for visiting Chinese delegations.
The manager gave him a pile of honey to stick in and Forrest noticed the Chinese raving about it and wanting more.
Forrest being in the business of giving the Chinese what they want, at the best price he can get spotted an opening and pounced.

Zipster
January 10, 2023 10:24 am

ANDREW TATE HUMBLED THIS DELUSIONAL FEMINIST & TURNED HER INTO A SUPER FAN
Modern Man Traditional Values

really nothing controversial in his views, other than he isn’t woke

Pogria
Pogria
January 10, 2023 10:24 am

bugger, meant to say, I bought the book mentioned by Mole on the tip from a commenter several months ago. Sorry, can’t remember who.

Roger
Roger
January 10, 2023 10:25 am

Was it the colour, size or fit for him?

Doesn’t matter…it’s all about Meghan.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 10, 2023 10:25 am

mole:

‘The Battle for Spain’ is a cracking read. The world’s biggest, baddest and bloodiest proxy war with endless agendas from each participant.

Proves exactly the point you made.

calli
calli
January 10, 2023 10:25 am

how do beekeepers make a living?

Many, many hives set up over long periods in bushland or on farms. Ultimately the hive pays for itself if volumes are large enough and replacement numbers are few. I can imagine the knock a bushfire takes on both earning and replacement cost (possibly insured?).

The hive I mentioned is a domestic use only model. It’s expensive because hipster. I’m sure a good hive could be knocked up as shedwork, but the young ones don’t do that.

Black Ball
Black Ball
January 10, 2023 10:31 am

Uh oh. Just saw a headline.
‘Who I Am’: Marnus opens up on Christian faith.
At the Hun website. Guessing career curtailment at this declaration by Labuschagne.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 10, 2023 10:32 am

The motion was introduced by Sustainable Australia Party councillor Georgia Lamb, who insisted she was trying to protect the council from cancel culture.

It would be cheaper and more effective to tell them to F – OFF

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 10, 2023 10:33 am

A sad morning at the funeral of the 98 year old Jewish lady who was Hairy’s step-mother in his adult life and a much loved step-granny to our two children. Organised by her son from her first marriage, who was quietly disraught, it was a simple funeral of memories and music with no photographs of her life up on a screen. It seems a photographic screening is more usual in Australian funerals than in British ones. It was a small gathering, for she had survived many of her friends and family. Some of her recent carers also attended, for they had grown to love and appreciate her too. The memories, both amusing and in praise of this lady’s acumen and humour, were well delivered in a short oration by her son’s wife, whose name is Brenda, but who is best known to many as ‘Vera’.

We retired afterwards to a pub lunch for further thoughts and memories.

bons
bons
January 10, 2023 10:34 am

According to the Bogan Barbie, QLD will benefit from cheap, abundant and available water drawn from desalination plants powered by cheap, abundant and available renewable power.
Problem solved then.
All we need to work out now is which union super fund will be given a desal plant at peppercorn.

calli
calli
January 10, 2023 10:35 am

Ahhh, Twiggy. A true man of the people.

In the States, I bought some honey at a supermarket, not noticing how cheap this particular one was compared to others. Turned out to be sugar syrup coloured yellow. No wonder they’re all so fat and sick.

Roger
Roger
January 10, 2023 10:35 am

If he expected his book to prompt both a wave of anti-Royal opinion and a tsunami of cash flowing into his wallet, he’s being sorely disappointed.

He’ll get the cash, the American market will see to that.

The question is how much will be left after the extravagant lifestyle & the subsequent divorce?

I remember IT on Sinc’s Cat predicting Harry would end up selling Rollers to rich divorcees on the Sunset Strip.

Dot
Dot
January 10, 2023 10:36 am

I am a big fan of sortition, councillors can appoint executives but the meetings perhaps should be open to the public and a simple majority vote – the town hall model.

But also subsidiarity, recall elections, referenda to strike down bad laws. confederalism , sunset clauses on all legislation & jury nullification.

Lunatic councils would not last long.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 10, 2023 10:37 am

WA will be have to be renamed Twiggyville unless China crashes soon. I’m getting Indiana Teahouse spam interrupting the Russian bikini models on my Instagram feed. Grrrr.

Dot
Dot
January 10, 2023 10:38 am

The memories, both amusing and in praise of this lady’s acumen and humour, were well delivered in a short oration by her son’s wife, whose name is Brenda, but who is best known to many as ‘Vera’.

Wow. I’d be starstruck but it isn’t an appropriate time.

Now, come on pet…

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 10, 2023 10:40 am

There are quite a few people out there who insist that plants feel pain too so harvesting plant fibres for clothes is out.

On first principles, it seems unlikely that plants feel pain because, whats the point? In animals, it incentivises them to stop whatever it is that is causing the pain. But do plants have that option – can they run from a chainsaw?

Plants certainly have sensors for some things – they turn to follow the sun, close up at night, release phytochemicals when being grazed etc, but pain? I doubt it – why ‘buy’ that infrastructure when you cant use it?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 10, 2023 10:41 am

The flow hives are perfect for people who just ant to much around and only have one hive.

Being able to harvest without the need for smokers/spinners and moving frames makes it 90% easier than a normal hive.
But like most hobby versions of the real thing they cost more and arent as efficient.

A tale from when i had a few hives…

In order to do it as cheap as possible I was catching wild swarms for the hives I had.
This can be a pain as wild swarms are more agressive, but CHEAP!

I went with dad to a ladies place and she had a swarm in the backyard which was easy to get. She also had a 5-6 year old granddaughter who was both a chatterbox and also wanted to know absolutely everything.

She heard us talking about getting the queen and that was it, she was hooked on the whole bee catching thing. We got the swarm into a box and little miss precocious pipes up “how do you know you have the queen”?
Dad replied “she was the one with the little crown on her head” which the little girl thought was a perfectly acceptable answer.
Very cute and funny.

Dot
Dot
January 10, 2023 10:45 am

I have a feeling that Shane Dowling has a raging hard on for Kerry Stokes.

The love letters are so full of juvenile angst.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 10, 2023 10:45 am

Desal isn’t a bad use for renewable power. A few days without wind is no biggie. Still doesn’t make it economic though.

lotocoti
lotocoti
January 10, 2023 10:48 am

Speaking of which…

some joyless Corbynista in the comments couldn’t help itself.

Roger
Roger
January 10, 2023 10:48 am

So a flow hive is to beekeeping sort of like what a Thermomix is to cooking?

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 10, 2023 10:51 am

Hasn’t the Pony Club got a desal plant rusting away on the Gold Coast? I think we may have had an inspection contract for it back in the day.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2023 10:52 am

Harry’s still going on about the bloody bridesmaid’s dresses.

What is the latest from the front in the Battle of Broken Necklace?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 10, 2023 10:55 am

Turned out to be sugar syrup coloured yellow.

If you have a nose for honey you can pretty quickly tell the difference between “fed” bee honey (ones that have a pile of sugar/water as their main foodsource) and proper honey.

But sugar syrup – bleah!

Bar Beach Swimmer
January 10, 2023 10:56 am

“have you ever heard a Tomato scream?”

Bare Faced Messiah, is the true story of L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology. Written by investigative journalist Russell Miller with assistance from an ex-Scientologist, Gerry Armstrong who, himself, had begun a definitive biography of Hubbard but became chastened from his research, the name of the book is an obvious play on words that gives the Hubbard game away.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bare-faced_Messiah

Among other, far more concerning topics covered in the book, is a discussion of the kinds of assertions that Hubbard made, including that tomatoes feel pain and that he, Hubbard, could move clouds with his thoughts. In regard to tomatoes, Hubbard used his e-meter to detect their pain.

“Have you ever heard a Tomato scream?”
https://whyweprotest.net/threads/hubbards-screaming-tomato-engram-debunked.57406/

It’s interesting how, under the right set of circumstances the most spurious of ideas can become a form of received wisdom, jingle or cliché. Taken up again and again the idea takes hold, even if it is only partly remembered or regurgitated it always serves a purpose. These things have a kind of resonance. So the “half-remembered thingy” sometimes has greater power because it gets reworked for a different audience.

From my quick google of the phrase, I came across a blog about becoming vegetarian. So, here, it’s not that the plants scream; it’s the “other” food – the meat section food -that is screaming. Ergo, become a vegetarian.
https://vegetarianvixens.blogspot.com/2009/02/have-you-ever-heard-tomato-scream_11.html

How many other ideas/memes or bald faced lies still have legs?
Global Warming…
The SFLs believe in individual liberty, private enterprise, small govt and lower taxes…
The Liars are for the wukkars…

Cassie of Sydney
January 10, 2023 10:58 am

“How many other ideas/memes or bald faced lies still have legs?”

Islam is a religion of peace.
Solar and wind will power the world.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 10, 2023 11:00 am

The honey stalls at farmers markets are great but usually just end up buying some Stokes Big Bee on special At Colesworths. I expect I am not the only one.

Roger
Roger
January 10, 2023 11:01 am

Well…my energy levels are good today, so I can’t justify anymore posting here until I’ve attacked the garden and done a dump run and maybe a visit to Bunnings. Ciao!

Real Deal
Real Deal
January 10, 2023 11:01 am

On old orange trees, I and some mates years ago used to camp along the Macquarie River between Bathurst and Hill End. Every so often near the river by the ruins of an old cottage there would be the tangle of an ancient orange tree.

Massive, overgrown yet still fruiting. They would have been the best part of a century old. I would have loved to go back with some secateurs, pruning saw and some fertiliser and see what would happen.
Given my lack of green thumb it’s good I didn’t go back. I probably would have killed it.

Pogria
Pogria
January 10, 2023 11:09 am

Bar Beach Swimmer,
thanks very much for those links. Fascinating. It’s funny how a few words can stay with you for decades.

bons
bons
January 10, 2023 11:11 am

Hijinks on Sky last night when white elephant critic Dr Scott Prasser (White Elephant Stampede) made the entirely reasonable recommendation that the Bogan Barbie’s desalination plant be built at Noosa.
Good choice, that would create a fine rash of fainting spells around the oligachs’ infinity pools.
According to a real estate contact, there has been no reduction in covid money pouring into Noosa property. Multimillion dollar homes being flattened all over town to be replaced by monstrosities. Thanks Scotty you ……

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 10, 2023 11:12 am

“How many other ideas/memes or bald faced lies still have legs?”

Islam is a religion of peace.
Solar and wind will power the world.

oooo! serial thread time!!

Islam is a religion of peace.
Solar and wind will power the world.
We live in a democracy
Capitalism has failed
It wasn’t real socialism
Renewballs are cheaper than fossil fuels
Better battery technology is ‘just around the corner’
Trust the experts
Fat is bad for you/cholesterol caused heart disease/statins should be in the water
Safe and effective
The 2020 (US) election was the most secure in history
Basement Biden beat Trump and got more votes than Obama
Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK – twice (a moving target, over iron sights at long range)

etc etc etc

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2023 11:14 am

If I don’t return this afternoon I will probably have been taken by the Robinia Tryffids.

Bar Beach Swimmer
January 10, 2023 11:15 am

“How many other ideas/memes or bald faced lies still have legs?”

“The Voice” is a soft and cuddly group hug.

cohenite
January 10, 2023 11:16 am

Very interesting call ins on 2SM about the Voice. One of the issues is whether 3rd generations were recognised in the Constitution after the 1967 referendum when “certain words” were omitted from section 51 (xxvi). Prior to 1967, this section gave the Commonwealth the power to make laws with respect to “[t]he people of any race, other than the aboriginal race in any State, for whom it is deemed necessary to make special laws”. This meant that the Commonwealth could not make special laws for the Aboriginal people, except in the Territories. Aborigines were a subject for State laws.

In 1967 the words “other than the aboriginal people in any State” were struck out. As a consequence, the Commonwealth gained the power to make special laws for the Aboriginal people. What followed was Mabo and Native Title where 3% of the Australian people now control in some form or other 50% of Australia.

If that isn’t recognition head prefect is not gorgeous.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 10, 2023 11:16 am

Free bikes!

More than 1600 shared bikes abandoned after company fails

Jaysus Pogo stick Christ did some people get burned!

Mobike’s failure comes as a new wave of bike-sharing schemes, such as HelloRide and Bird, have set up in Sydney, hoping that their electric bikes, GPS tracking and better relationships with councils will let them prosper.*

Mobike arrived in Australia in 2017 as a Chinese start-up with more than $1 billion in investor funding and put its orange and silver push-bikes on city streets in Sydney and Queensland’s Gold Coast.

One of the country’s e-commerce giants, Meituan Dianping, bought it a year later for $US2.7 billion ($3.8 billion) at the height of the bike-sharing craze that infuriated residents with dumped bicycles.

* That would be a direct line from the ratepayer into the coffers of the bike firm.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 10, 2023 11:17 am

Mr Forrest’s Minderoo Group plans to start exporting premium WA honey under its Harvest Road brand

The asset managers love this stuff. My BIL has made a fortune in agroforestry (being careful to avoid Howard’s ATO driven stuff, which was a wise move). At one stage he was dealing with the Harvard endowment fund guys who were looking for someone to manage off-season orchards to provide continuity of supply of orange pulp without exposure to spot price movements. Don’t think it went anywhere.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 10, 2023 11:24 am

*That would be a direct line from the ratepayer into the coffers of the bike firm.

More like the permit to allow the to dump their Chinese made bicycles (aka litter) around the suburb.

bons
bons
January 10, 2023 11:24 am

Bear, yep the plant is still there. She has just pumped in another half bill for an upgrade, perhaps to provide water to her Toowoomba concentration camp.
It’s difficult to work out who the actual beneficiary is. Viola and John Holland have a BOO contract but the blurb also talks about a mysterious “facility owner”.
In QLD you would never know.

Lysander
Lysander
January 10, 2023 11:28 am

Now, can someone pls remind me of what the Munt was going on about throwing Trump in gaol for having official documents in his office at home?

Several highly classified documents from President Joe Biden’s time as vice president were discovered last fall in a private office, a source with knowledge of the matter tells CNN.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 10, 2023 11:32 am

More than 1600 shared bikes abandoned after company fails

The purple electric bikes newly infesting my suburb have now been joined by purple electric scooters. The things are everywhere and I never see any of them being ridden. Instead they litter the landscape like eyesores, and impede the shared-path when they inevitably fall over onto it.

Bar Beach Swimmer
January 10, 2023 11:33 am

Off for a swim now.

rickw
rickw
January 10, 2023 11:40 am

Beekeeping?

My grandfather used to keep bee’s. Spent a lot of time helping him. Great times! You really do develop quite an immunity to getting stung!

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 10, 2023 11:51 am

BOO contract but the blurb also talks about a mysterious “facility owner”.

Probably a JV between Macquarie, some industry super funds, some Canadian teachers pension fund and a company who actually knows how to work the thing. Desal basically keeps Perf alive but it’s all government.

John H.
John H.
January 10, 2023 12:06 pm

Only 40 years late because of stupid governments and stupid people who believed stupid governments.

The Rebirth of Psychedelic Medicine

But many of the basic mechanisms of these drugs remain poorly understood, in a field of medicine that has barely begun to recover from decades of government-enforced stigmatization.

That’s true of many psych meds.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2023 12:07 pm

I am really, really worried about the Daily Exposé.
Really worried.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2023 12:08 pm

Desal is kind of justifiable for Perf.
For Eastern state capitals – not so much.

Dot
Dot
January 10, 2023 12:10 pm

Several highly classified documents from President Joe Biden’s time as vice president were discovered last fall in a private office, a source with knowledge of the matter tells CNN.

Has the National Archivist commented on this?

rickw
rickw
January 10, 2023 12:15 pm

Instead they litter the landscape like eyesores, and impede the shared-path when they inevitably fall over onto it.

My wife’s car has a nice big door ding on the passenger side door. She’s very careful with it so I was surprised. How did that happen? E-scooter fell on it….

rickw
rickw
January 10, 2023 12:17 pm

More like the permit to allow the to dump their Chinese made bicycles (aka litter) around the suburb.

Litter?! An excellent source of DC motors and speed controllers as long as you can locate the GPS unit!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 10, 2023 12:20 pm

WA needs the far canal to drought proof the whole state.

Ernie bridges canal from the Kimberly to Perth with a thousand plantations all along its route.
The Ord River dam times 1000.

What canal?
The Farcanal!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 10, 2023 12:21 pm

rickw

In the story the GPS isnt an issue. the 3rd party monitoring them wasnt paid so no tracking taking place.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 10, 2023 12:23 pm

Desal is kind of justifiable for Perf.
For Eastern state capitals – not so much.

It’s extraordinary that Warragamba still more or less provides for Sydney. Perf dams would have struggled from the 70s or early 80s. Water Corp is a rare example of government planning staying ahead of the curve. Not making many friends among private bore owners in the metro area at the moment though.

John Brumble
John Brumble
January 10, 2023 12:25 pm

Rosie, calli..

I don’t know if the various COVID treatments were effective or to what extent they were effective. Could well have been incredibly effective.

But that paper shows nothing of the sort. What that paper shows is that earlier variants of COVID infected fewer people as time moved forward.

Which is not exactly earth-shattering news, is it?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 10, 2023 12:32 pm

Baby photo.

Only one, but this is their second attempt this season, as the first attempt in a tree up the road failed. The other kooka families have chicks all fledged and as big as the parents.

One of the family arrived with a grub thingie just as I put the ladder away.

Speedbox
January 10, 2023 12:34 pm

rickw says:
January 10, 2023 at 12:15 pm

A few days ago I discovered deep scratches (paint gone) on the right side rear bumper area of my car.

I didn’t do it and whoever did, could not possibly have done so without knowing. I suspect it was done by another car ‘scrapping’ past mine in some parking area. No note of apology (of course) and the damage will cost several hundred dollars to repair as it will require some paint respraying.

Some people are just a*holes.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 10, 2023 12:35 pm

thefrollickingmole at 12:20 – did you hear the figure quoted for the Fitzroy River of Perf water use for the past 20 years per second . Don’t know whether it’s true but if that is even close it’s mind boggling.

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