Open Thread – Tue 10 Jan 2023


The Siesta, Camille Pissarro, 1899


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calli
calli
January 13, 2023 8:49 am

I Didn’t Wear a Bra to Jury Duty

Well, that’s the last time he’ll be called up. Smart move.

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2023 8:51 am

With China losing its status as the world’s manufacturer India is aiming for that distinction. We should not let that happen as the result will be the same further down the road. Decentralisation is the best thing. When nobody has a monopoly then nobody can be a threat. Besides, India is very class stratified and not much better at treating its workers.

Not to mention a corrupt and byzantine business culture that makes the Chinese look positively virtuous.

India may find a few export niches – cars and call centres – but they are not set to replace China as teh world’s factory.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 13, 2023 8:51 am

I assumed Farage was referring about a cultural correction

The problem with that is the gulf between the progressives and the normal people is widening.

Dems, GOP have distinct priorities for 2023: AP-NORC poll (1 Jan)

A poll finds Republicans and Democrats have sharply distinct views of what’s most important for the government to address amid high inflation

Named by 45% of Republicans, immigration is one of the GOP’s leading priorities. … Roughly 2 in 10 Republicans also name crime, foreign policy issues, energy and health care. Republicans are more likely than Democrats to specifically name inflation, 37% vs. 26%, and gas prices, 22% vs. 7%.

Among Democrats, about 4 in 10 rank climate change and health care, 3 in 10 prioritize gun issues and roughly one-quarter name education and abortion or women’s rights. Roughly 2 in 10 Democrats name racism and poverty.

A complete unbridgeable gulf between each side. The progressive truly believe all that cultural rubbish, with fervour. And they’re increasing in number because of the indoctrination of young people through schools and social media, especially young women.

While you have more than half of society believing in a weird pagan religion like this there won’t be a change in direction. Rather the nation will collapse first, like Venezuela.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 13, 2023 8:51 am

still you’d think health advice should be fairly consistent.

It is all based on lies. Why would it be consistent?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 13, 2023 8:57 am

Anyone travelling in the Southern Highlands the General Store at Exeter, about 15km from Sutton Forrest is good. Expensive but better than paying slighty less for rubbish. Good coffee. I only have a small long black. Phrasing, I know. Go for quality, you won’t be disappointed.

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2023 8:58 am

The major replacement religion for lefties is climate change, which works extra-well for lapsed Christians as it is built on cultural guilt and self-hatred.

Since orthodox Christianity never taught cultural guilt or self-hatred I find this statement puzzling. Have lapsed Christians misunderstood Christianity? Quite likely. And have they accepted a form of Marxism as a substitute? Again, quite likely. What’s worse is that many professing Christians have too.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 13, 2023 8:59 am

Tom, 8.29:

A few days ago someone put up a quote from someone else who pointed out that before all that nasty coal and oil gave us cheap, reliable power and affordable transport and goods and technology that made life easier, power was provided by people. Manual labour, in other words.

What these flogs – of whom not one could lift a shovel – fail to comprehend is that all the ephemera associated with modern life will disappear about ten seconds after cheap reliable power does.

They won’t be able to afford to be concerned about plant life in Ecuador or endangered Grampians frogs – nor hurt feelings about who dressed up as Hitler once 30 years ago, let alone what gender they are that day.

All this will quickly disappear beneath an overriding need to avoid starving and freezing in the dark, as was the case a thousand years ago.

These freeloaders can then blame others all they like, but their minds will be wonderfully focussed.

Dot
Dot
January 13, 2023 8:59 am

I have found some pretty good research papers lately.

I think it really backs up the “primal lifestyle” that Mark Sisson for example promotes.

You have to treat your health almost ritualistically to imitate the ancients. You need to be as close to natural as possible.

Get some sun.
Try not to be a night owl.
Avoid sugar.
Minimise starch, amylopectin A consumption.
Avoid (overly) processed foods.
Do some cardio and la résistance work routinely each week.
No snacking and fasting is you’re busy won’t hurt you.
Change up your fitness routine now and again.

It is literally what your grandmother would have told you.

“No, I will have the bugman slop and take the anti diabetes drugs to lose weight and stay in my pod…”

There’s still bum advice out there from all corners of the “health and fitness” “industry”.

Red meat will give you cancer.
Deadlifts are bad for you.
Running will lower your testosterone (!) and make you fat (!!!) – no, really this is making the rounds.

Once a biochemist explains the Krebs, Kori etc cycles to you, the hysteria about “macros, bro!” and “starvation made will make you put weight on, bro!” sticks out as bro science.

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2023 9:02 am

Speaking of which…

Cardinal Pell in The Speccie.

Elsewhere, Pell is reported as the anonymous author, under the name “Demos”, of a memorandum which criticises Pope Francis for bringing the international reputation of the Vatican to its lowest modern ebb, pointing to a failure to criticise China over human rights violations & Russia for its invasion of Ukraine.

JC
JC
January 13, 2023 9:03 am

Knuckle Dragger says:
January 13, 2023 at 8:45 am
Great stoush overnight. Very polite, too.

No swearing, no clear winner. Plenty of potential for sequels.

Really KD, no clear winner even with this comment?

I’m read not just by captains of industry & pillars of society,

Has to be the stupidest most insane comment for a while, from the Driller. And most days he doesn’t disappoint.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
January 13, 2023 9:04 am

Just sat down for a coffee and a dekko at the Cat, haven’t read upthread but was the untalented, unentitled moocher from Moniceto rescued by a private helicopter?

Zipster
Zipster
January 13, 2023 9:04 am

THE TRUTH ABOUT TATE
Paul Joseph Watson

JC
JC
January 13, 2023 9:05 am

Try not to be a night owl.

This have an explanation, Dot?

Crossie
Crossie
January 13, 2023 9:08 am

Since orthodox Christianity never taught cultural guilt or self-hatred I find this statement puzzling. Have lapsed Christians misunderstood Christianity? Quite likely. And have they accepted a form of Marxism as a substitute? Again, quite likely. What’s worse is that many professing Christians have too.

Roger, Christianity is about personal guilt, personal responsibility and personal redemption. The new environmental and so social responsibility religion is collective in nature, you are absolved simply for believing and everyone else is an infidel whom you can abuse and blame for your sins.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2023 9:08 am

Nightshift is over. We’re just waiting for mUnty to show up for the daily serve of wrongology until he sinks away.

Dot
Dot
January 13, 2023 9:10 am

Melatonin imbalance JC.

It is considered a cause of increased cancer rates for shift workers who do night shifts.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2023 9:10 am

Slinks away. But sinks away works too.

calli
calli
January 13, 2023 9:11 am

What’s worse is that many professing Christians have too.

Yes Roger. And it’s horrible to watch. One told me quite categorically that “science” would find a way to provide sufficient energy without burning coal. When I said it already had in the form of nuclear, it was as if I’d bitten the head off a kitten.

There was no interest in the limitations of physics or natural laws governing energy, only a misplaced faith that somehow these could be overcome.

Magical thinking, more suited to voodoo than Christianity and the idea of a logical, rational universe.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 13, 2023 9:11 am

They are selling dairy cow (Friesian) sirloin for $55,

I saw that on the menu.
I can’t remember seeing Friesian on a menu before.
I’ve had limousin a couple of times.
Fantastic.
Wonder why we don’t see more of that.

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2023 9:11 am

Cricket Australia, claiming government support, has pulled out of a ODI with Afghanistan in Maqrch, citing deterioration in that country’s treatment fo women as the reason.

Because isolating them further is the way to go, apparently.

Big sport and politics are now joined at the hip, which will one day soon come back to bite us.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 13, 2023 9:12 am

But that doesn’t stop your ghoulish posts.

I remember back in the 70’s and 80’s a lot of football matches were said to be ‘sudden death’ – I think Rex Mossop might have started it – but he he was not a doctor, so…

Still, whole teams. And there would have been all sorts of injuries of fans who were too enthusiastically invested in the outcomes.

A veritable dark age.

calli
calli
January 13, 2023 9:12 am

Whoops. I wasn’t anthropomorphising about the universe. The universe operates in a logical and rational way because it was designed to reflect the character of its creator.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 13, 2023 9:13 am

Dot, you’ve outlined Tom Brady’s TB12 program.
Please send Tom the royalty he deserves & might need since FTX are now no longer sending cheques.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 13, 2023 9:15 am

I’m read not just by captains of industry & pillars of society,

Translation.
I put up a note:- “No swimming. The pool is contaminated”.
It was read by the owner of the general store and the lady from the Red Cross op-shop.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 13, 2023 9:16 am

I remember back in the 70’s and 80’s a lot of football matches were said to be ‘sudden death’ – I think Rex Mossop might have started it – but he he was not a doctor, so…

You’re right!
The World Cup just recently had a “sudden death” phase as well.
What can it mean?

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 13, 2023 9:18 am

Cause still unconfirmed.

Rugby League in mourning after sudden death of 18-year-old Salford Red Devils hooker who represented England Community Lions at youth level

I’m guessing ‘experts’ are ‘baffled’?

Dot
Dot
January 13, 2023 9:19 am

There are several “e girls” hitting up Brady.

He needs to set up trusts and otherwise begin considering how to pop smoke and ghost.

lotocoti
lotocoti
January 13, 2023 9:20 am

Cultist hopes no one notices a minor detail.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 13, 2023 9:21 am

Interesting to reflect on all the Christopher Skase comparisons trotted out when George Pell produced medical advice against travel because of a crook ticker.
And here we are. Doesn’t make it through routine surgery because of … crook ticker.

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2023 9:21 am

Roger, Christianity is about personal guilt, personal responsibility and personal redemption.

St Paul invented the individual conscience (exaggerated for impact!); the revolutionary nature of this at the time and its development in subsequent Western culture is no longer understood or appreciated.

The current regression to neo-tribalism in the West is a result of the rejection of Christianity. Indentity politics is the poisonous fruit of the rejection of “Male and female He created them…”.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 13, 2023 9:21 am

What is it with CNN using the filters on people they hate?

Happens here too. File footage with that grainy “antiquing” overlay even though the video is perfectly clear, bad photos of class enemies, flattering ones of pals.

Has happened forever.
Back in the day it was hur-hur-hur effigies and dimwits drawing thick framed spectacles and a Hitler moustache on posters.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 13, 2023 9:21 am

McCarthy is already bull shitting.
He’s said he’s going to release all the Jan 6th security footage.
That’s 14,000 hours.
Is he really going to release footage showing most people sitting around doing nothing in offices 200m from the Capitol building ?
Zero chance.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 13, 2023 9:23 am

Darwin awards are multiplying.

Birth Rate in Freefall as 1 in 4 Americans Puts off Having Kids Due to Climate Fears (11 Jan, via Lucianne)

a survey by Veolia, an environmental utility firm, reveals that a quarter of respondents described “not being at peace” due to global warming and said they were “giving up long-term projects such as having children.” The poll should be taken with a grain of salt, however, as the Paris-based company posts other polls on their Twitter feed that all seem to arrive at similar conclusions: that a majority of inhabitants of the earth spend their waking hours freaking out over the future of the planet.

Eventually these people should become extinct as the sane replace them demographically. But it’s going to take a century or so.

Real Deal
Real Deal
January 13, 2023 9:25 am

Try not to be a night owl.

This have an explanation, Dot?

Please don’t mention owls. Cohenite will start posting stuff again.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 13, 2023 9:30 am

2020 kids: Im traumatised because someone was misgendered on tv.

1980s kids: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pypyDDPmIQ

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 13, 2023 9:39 am

“Renewable energy” is a backward, anti-scientific regression of our technology to the 19th century designed by hippies who don’t understand engineering.

I’ve always thought of it as someone trying to put a W Heath Robinson invention into practice.

Zipster
Zipster
January 13, 2023 9:46 am

The ‘transgender’ tide rises higher, and it’s all Justice Gorsuch’s fault

the poofterisation of the west continues. cui bono

Jorge
Jorge
January 13, 2023 9:47 am

Roger, Christianity is about personal guilt, personal responsibility and personal redemption.

I like the idea of a people being judged as in the OT.

What about the idea that the Jews bear a special burden of guilt: His blood is on us and on our children.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 13, 2023 9:49 am

World must ‘stop pretending’ British people are ‘uniquely awful’

Brexit Party founder Nigel Farage says Britain was one of the first civilised nations to stop slavery and spent decades “stamping it out” around the world.

The Church of England recently pledged 100 million pounds to researching the church’s links to slavery.

“Let’s stop pretending that somehow the British are uniquely awful,” he told Sky News host Caleb Bond.

Not sure that this is actually a ‘world issue’.
The problem seems to be more that a noisy subset of the British is pretending that somehow the British are uniquely awful – and the flabby Establishment fears they may be a majority view.

Leon L.
Leon L.
January 13, 2023 10:01 am

Indolent says:
January 13, 2023 at 8:18 am
“Good Grief” is right

Indolent, this one is an internal carotid artery dissection.
Not that rare.
Happened to Michael Lynagh, ex Australian rugby fly half.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 13, 2023 10:05 am

Daniel Andrews blasted over George Pell jibe

By RACHEL BAXENDALE
Victorian Political Reporter
@rachelbaxendale
9:20PM January 12, 2023
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Daniel Andrews has been branded “an insult in search of a target” for saying he cannot think of “anything more distressing” for victims of church child sex abuse than granting George Pell a state ­funeral.

The criticism of the late cardinal by the Victorian Premier enraged friends of Cardinal Pell’s, with one saying he hoped Mr Andrews would never have been invited to any memorial.

Cardinal Pell, in a speech as recently as last August, compared Mr Andrews to Joh Bjelke-Petersen’s ­corrupt government in 1980s Queensland, and his supporters have long criticised the Victorian Labor leader’s response to the quashing of abuse convictions against the Catholic cleric.
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Asked on Thursday whether a state funeral had been requested for the cardinal, who died in Rome on Tuesday aged 81, Mr Andrews quickly ruled out any taxpayer-funded event.

“No. And there won’t be a state memorial service. I couldn’t think of anything that would be more distressing for victim survivors than that,” Mr Andrews said.

“There’s been no request made, and these things are normally ­offered rather than asked for, and there will be no offer made,” Mr Andrews said.

Asked whether he would attend the funeral – to be held at St Mary’s Cathedral in Sydney, where Cardinal Pell is to be buried as a former archbishop – Mr Andrews said: “I don’t think so, no.”

NSW Premier and fellow Catholic Dominic Perrottet also ruled out taxpayer funding from his state for the funeral.

Close friend of Cardinal Pell, emeritus professor of law and former vice-chancellor of the Australian Catholic University Greg Craven, hit back at Mr Andrews.

“I think Daniel Andrews is an insult in search of a target,” he said. “So far as I know, no one wanted a state funeral, no one asked for a state funeral, and I for one would hope that he wouldn’t have been invited to a state funeral.”

Professor Craven took issue with the Premier’s refusal to engage with concerns surrounding the Victorian judiciary’s handling of the Pell case. “Premier Andrews is always telling us what he respects, but apparently it doesn’t ­include the rule of law,” he said.

Mr Perrottet confirmed Cardinal Pell would not be given a NSW state funeral. “No. There will be a memorial service, which will be held and that is arranged by the archdiocese and I just want to say to the cardinal’s family, our thoughts and prayers are with you at this time,” Mr Perrottet said.

Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews has ruled out holding a state memorial service for the late Cardinal George… Pell, saying he can’t think of anything “more distressing” for “victim survivors”. “I think more importantly, what will be a very challenging time for victim survivors, to send the clearest possible message More

In one of his last speeches to an Australian audience, Cardinal Pell likened his home state of Victoria under Mr Andrews to Joh Bjelke-Petersen’s Queensland.

In an address to Sydney-based Catholic liberal arts college Campion in August, an excerpt of which was published in The Australian, he bemoaned the rise of identity politics and cancel culture, but expressed optimism that liberal-democratic and conservative Christian values would ultimately prevail. “I don’t think Australian life is rotten at the core, but times are changing, and not always for the better,” Cardinal Pell told a large crowd at the college’s fundraising dinner. “The inevitable royal commission of the future into Victoria could find a situation parallel to that of Joh Bjelke-Petersen’s Queensland in the 1970s-80s. Too many Australians were content with the over-reaction of bossy nanny states during the Covid crisis, when the churches were closed before the casino.”

Mr Andrews said he would “not dignify … with any response” comments from Peter Dutton, who on Wednesday joined former Liberal prime ministers John Howard and Tony Abbott in commenting on Cardinal Pell’s quashed conviction for child sex assault charges.

The Opposition Leader said: “On his passing, the fact he spent a year in prison for a conviction that the High Court of Australia unanimously quashed should provide some cause for reflection for the Victorian Labor government and its institutions that led this modern-day political persecution.”

Cardinal Pell spent 13 months in prison after being convicted on five counts relating to historic child sex abuse allegations after a County Court verdict that was upheld by two of three Victorian Court of Appeal judges before being dismissed 7-0 by the full bench of the High Court.

Asked whether there was a need to reflect on Victoria’s legal institutions, Mr Andrews said: “I think there’s absolutely no need for me to dignify (Mr Dutton’s) commentary by providing any further response, which is why I’m not.”

calli
calli
January 13, 2023 10:06 am

No one bears a special level of guilt over Christ’s death. That they said this at the time demonstrates another level of hubris from the ones who disobeyed their own laws to ensure a death sentence.

As individuals they are condemned for their own actions by their own law. They had no power to condemn their own children.

Figures
Figures
January 13, 2023 10:14 am

Lisa Presley’s dad died at age 42 of a heart attack.

Elvis was one of the first in line for the polio vax which killed plenty of people (who knows? Maybe even Elvis). In fact, he is just as responsible as anybody for the worldwide obsession with these disgusting concoctions as he was a key part of the propaganda campaign to get people to poison themselves.

Cassie of Sydney
January 13, 2023 10:15 am

“What about the idea that the Jews bear a special burden of guilt: His blood is on us and on our children.”

NO. It was Pilate who authorised the killing of Jesus. And such a belief that the Jews are guilty of “deicide” has been rebutted by no less than Pope Benedict. The Catholic Church officially repudiated the idea of collective Jewish guilt for Jesus’ death in a document authorised by the Second Vatican Council in 1965.

calli
calli
January 13, 2023 10:17 am

You said it better, Cassie.

JC
JC
January 13, 2023 10:21 am

What about the idea that the Jews bear a special burden of guilt: His blood is on us and on our children.

How about the Romans, who actually forced the execution? How would you avoid them sharing collective guilt, Jorge?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 13, 2023 10:24 am

Why would ‘survivors’ be displeased with respect being paid to the first person to acknowledge the injustice done to them and to reach out to them?

Oh, I know why. Because Cardinal Pell focussed on Catholics and most victims, in places like Public Schools and other places the state keeps kids corralled, would be reflecting on how their tormentors will never face justice because the state government doesn’t care about them.

Personally I think it a wonderful thing that the Cardinal will not have the indignity of a state funeral, granted by venal grasping spivs like Andrews or Perrottet and attended not by a congregation, but by the wrack and flotsam of the Australian elite all washed into place by a high tide, each of whom will spend all their time peeking to see what each other is doing and planning who they will ‘casually’ bump into afterwards to plot their self-serving money-grubbing little schemes.

Who would have guessed so much good could have come from the word ‘no’?

Cassie of Sydney
January 13, 2023 10:25 am

“Personally I think it a wonderful thing that the Cardinal will not have the indignity of a state funeral, granted by venal grasping spivs like Andrews or Perrottet and attended not by a congregation, but by the wrack and flotsam of the Australian elite all washed into place by a high tide, each of whom will spend all their time peeking to see what each other is doing and planning who they will ‘casually’ bump into afterwards to plot their self-serving money-grubbing little schemes.”

Nicely said ML.

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2023 10:28 am

Personally I think it a wonderful thing that the Cardinal will not have the indignity of a state funeral, granted by venal grasping spivs like Andrews or Perrottet and attended not by a congregation, but by the wrack and flotsam of the Australian elite all washed into place by a high tide, each of whom will spend all their time peeking to see what each other is doing and planning who they will ‘casually’ bump into afterwards to plot their self-serving money-grubbing little schemes.

ML wins the internets today!

Cassie of Sydney
January 13, 2023 10:32 am

“How about the Romans, who actually forced the execution? How would you avoid them sharing collective guilt, Jorge?”

Quite so JC.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 13, 2023 10:37 am

Bear, munty is so fat he can’t sink, just bobs on the surface.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 13, 2023 10:40 am

Collective guilt, collective blame?
For something that happened over 2000 years ago.
How retrograde.

JC
JC
January 13, 2023 10:45 am

Welcome to the political economy.

For many in Washington, muscular industrial policy holds a seductive appeal. America has unleashed vast subsidies, amounting to $465bn, for green energy, electric cars and semiconductors. These are bolstered with requirements that production should be local. Bureaucrats tasked with scrutinising inward investments to prevent undue foreign influence over the economy now themselves hold sway over sectors accounting for 60% of the stockmarket’s value.

Fans argue that this will help seal America’s technological ascendancy over China, which has long pursued self-sufficiency in vital areas using state intervention. As carbon pricing is politically unfeasible, it could also foster decarbonisation. And it reflects a hope that government intervention will succeed where private enterprise failed, by reindustrialising America’s heartlands and even reviving support for market capitalism.

Such thinking is misguided. If zero-sum policies are seen as a success, abandoning them will become only harder. In real­ity, even if they do remake American industry, their overall effect is more likely to cause harm by corroding global security, holding back growth and raising the cost of the green transition. Even when it is inspired by the best of motives, zero-sum thinking threatens to make everyone poorer and the world more dangerous.

Let me ask. If countries such as the US and China disengage from trading in a big way, doesn’t that create the potential for scarier world? Once there’s little to no trade what is there to lose on the economic side of things if there’s a war?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 13, 2023 10:46 am

I think Figures is being a little ridiculous about Elvis and the polio vaccine.

After he died and they shaved his head (to sell the hair for witches potions) they called in a phrenologist to give his opinion on the cause of death.

Apparently his personality was a perfectionist mass-murderer/bank clerk. For a moment they thought he might also have been lunatic golf-player, but that just where his head bumped on the toilet seat.

They were very careful. It is a science, ya know. Not a bunch of cranks.

The team concluded that his personality was choleric, but that he personally contained too much lipid in his sanguine and it was this imbalance of humours and hamburgers that killed him.

cohenite
January 13, 2023 10:47 am
m0nty
m0nty
January 13, 2023 10:51 am

Its political decisions which have caused the bulk of the changes fat boy.
Equalideee means 2 parents working for a wage to support the family instead of one.
Yay- how good!

That is not the fault of gender equality. That is the fault of economic inequality, something you support to the fullest as the parties you vote for are the playthings of the rich.

And don’t give me that populism crap, show me where McCarthy or Dutton have put forward any pro working class policies lately.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2023 10:53 am

The problem seems to be more that a noisy subset of the British is pretending that somehow the British are uniquely awful

The problem is that the British (well really other people generally) are uniquely awful. We just can’t agree on why.

JC
JC
January 13, 2023 10:54 am

And don’t give me that populism crap, show me where McCarthy or Dutton have put forward any pro working class policies lately.

Reverse funding the increase in the IRS, Fatboy. Those parasites wouldn’t go after the American rich because most of them have their finances in order. They go after the small guys.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 13, 2023 10:56 am

Try not to be a night owl.

This have an explanation, Dot?

Staying awake at night (in the modern world) generally means the use of artificial light. Not only is this out of sync with the sun cycles, it is too blue, and too ‘high’ in the visual field. We evolved seeing only dim red light, low in the visual field (from campfires) at night. Blue light, high up, signals our circadian rhythms that it is day time, and mucking up these rhythms is bad for health – shift work has been shown to be bad for your health.

For a fascinating overview of the adverse effects of our (artificially lit) modern world, I highly recommend:

https://youtu.be/5YV_iKnzDRg

its 2 hours, but I found it very valuable.

m0nty
m0nty
January 13, 2023 10:57 am

LOL I knew someone would bring up the IRS. Nup, that is just protecting the rich. Next!

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2023 10:57 am

mUnty, who by his own admission, brought no assets to his marriage seems awfully keen on equality and fairness. I wonder what Mrs mUnty would say? Although, by being Mrs mUnty,I’m sure I wouldn’t really value her opinion.

JC
JC
January 13, 2023 10:59 am

LOL I knew someone would bring up the IRS.

Of course you knew. That’s because it’s true.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
January 13, 2023 11:02 am

Russian Black Fleet Heads to Sea

From Armstrong Economics –

“Russian Navy ships and submarines have suddenly left their base at Novorossiysk, in the Black Sea, en-masse. This is highly unusual and many fear that this is a change in tactics. The Western Press keeps trying to paint Russia as losing the war so, quite frankly, they can get more people to volunteer to join the military if they think they are on the winning side. There is no question that the US and Russia are waging the most intense confrontation since the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis. Our model on that confrontation aligned with our major war model showing that 2014 was the end of that period and the beginning of this new period as we head into World War III.

The hardliners are not happy in Russia and President Vladimir Putin is being pushed into a corner. Either he gets more aggressive, or they could be a coup. The hardliners are using nuclear threats and other escalations in what they know is now really a proxy war of the USA and NATO against Russia using Ukraine as the pawn they are willing to sacrifice.

Washington is wielding its own array of pressures to paint Putin as a loser. The good news is that, so far, both strategies have been fairly carefully calibrated. The bad news is that America and Russia are still on a collision course because the end goal is actually to conquer Russia.

Sweden has now instituted a draft. Poland is building its army of up to 250,000 men. All of this is based on the expectation that Ukraine can reduce the Russian army and that will make it a cakewalk to invade and drive tanks from Poland right into Moscow.

Sweden will boost military spending by around 40% over the next five years from 2016 and double the numbers conscripted into the armed forces as it looks to beef up its defence amid growing tensions with Russia post-2014. Meanwhile, France, Italy, Latvia and Lithuania scrapped conscription as they concluded that large-scale defence was no longer necessary before 2014, but now they have all reversed policies.

The Joe Biden administration pledged to defend “every inch” of Nato territory. That has complicated matters for Putin to interfere with Ukraine’s supply lines through Romania and Poland. The Western Press keeps pitching the same propaganda that Putin is spiralling toward defeat in Ukraine and may not survive that outcome politically. Yet I know that the hardliners are there and if Putin does not become more aggressive, they may indeed replace him by May and then holy hell will break loose.

Putin is warning Washington as well as Kyiv that attacks on those territories are tantamount to attacks on Russia itself. The Biden administration has opted not to listen to anything from Putin and only seeks war instructing Zelensky to sacrifice his own people and to reject any peace talks whatsoever. If the US hands Zelensky long-range missiles, he will use them to attack mainland Russia and that will begin World War III.

EVERY President throughout my entire life has always sought peace. The Biden Administration and NATO only talk about pushing war. NEVER have I ever witnessed such irresponsible leadership for this is really about Climate Change.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/russia/russian-black-fleet-heads-to-sea/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2023 11:03 am

And don’t give me that populism crap, show me where McCarthy or Dutton have put forward any pro working class policies lately.

At the risk of defending Howard, look at the rate of unemployment under voluntary Enterprise Bargaining and EBAs. Naturally that was one of the first thingsGillard and the unions wanted gone. You would agree having a job is a good thing mUnty?

JC
JC
January 13, 2023 11:08 am

Armstrong is a crook.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2023 11:09 am

I have never seen Perrottet in the Grampians. Are we even sure he is a Nazi?

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2023 11:12 am

Staying awake at night (in the modern world) generally means the use of artificial light.

In days of yore, before the advent of automobiles and street lighting, country dances were held on the weekend of the month closest to the full moon to facilitate safe travel home at night by horse or horse drawn vehicle (sulky).

And no, that’s not a personal memory!

Carry on.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2023 11:12 am

Armstrong is a crook.

That’s a terrible thing to say about Jonny’s man crush.

Cassie of Sydney
January 13, 2023 11:12 am

Oh and the obscenity of “deicide” is also matched by scum who promote the idea of “legitimate grievances”.

JC
JC
January 13, 2023 11:14 am

Sweden has now instituted a draft.

Sweden has not “now” introduced the military draft. The crook is lying again.

Cassie of Sydney
January 13, 2023 11:16 am

“Collective guilt, collective blame?
For something that happened over 2000 years ago.
How retrograde.”

Very progressive.

C.L.
C.L.
January 13, 2023 11:16 am

Personally I think it a wonderful thing that the Cardinal will not have the indignity of a state funeral…

This.

The story was simply invented by a journalist to give Andrews a ball to volley. Dom Pirouette followed along, as he does.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 13, 2023 11:18 am

In It’s Only Money news:

Chris Bowen optimistic over solar project despite company entering voluntary administration

“I remain very upbeat and excited about SunCable’s future, this is primarily a commercial decision about structure and the way forward…”

ALP NT Minister Nicole Mannison (BA Journalism and Public Relations Studies) agrees that the project is an absolute rip-snorting ball-tearer and will go ahead with a wet sail as soon as the tedious funding details are sorted.

Technical Note: It is also primarily a commercial decision by the Singaporean Government and customers that the project is off-the-scale ridiculous to the extent that it is politely ignored.

These people walk amongst us…

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
January 13, 2023 11:19 am

Upon arriving home, a husband was met at the door by his sobbing wife.

Tearfully she explained “It’s the pharmacist. He insulted me terribly this morning on the phone”.

Immediately the husband drove downtown to confront the pharmacist and demand an apology.

Before he could say more than a few words, the pharmacist told him “Now, just a minute, please listen to my side of it… this morning my alarm failed to go off, so I was late getting up.

I went without breakfast and hurried out to the car, just to realise that I locked the house with both house and car keys inside. I had to break a window to get my keys. Then, driving a little too fast, I got a speeding ticket.

Later, about three blocks from the store, I had a flat tyre. When I got to the store there was a bunch of people waiting for me to open up. I opened and started waiting on these people, and all the time the darn phone was ringing off the hook.

Then I had to break a roll of coins against the cash register drawer to make change, and they spilled all over the floor. I got down on my hands and knees to pick up the coins; the phone was still ringing. When I came up, I cracked my head on the open cash drawer, which made me stagger back against a showcase with bunch of perfume bottles on it… all of them hit the floor and broke!

Meanwhile, the phone is STILL ringing with no let up, and I finally got to answer it.

It was your wife. She wanted to know how to use a rectal thermometer… and, honest mister, all I did was tell her!”

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
January 13, 2023 11:20 am

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

– Winston Churchill

C.L.
C.L.
January 13, 2023 11:21 am

Turns out Biden is pretty much like that bloke who was stuffing classified docs down his jocks.

Which raises the question of why a Veep would be stashing material like that.

My best guess is that he and Hunter regarded them as an investment – a sort of traitor’s bitcoin.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
January 13, 2023 11:21 am

This is for Zulu and Farmer Gez. An article from today’s Westprint email that may be of interest. (Jo is the editor of the newsletter.)

The Stripper, SA (it’s not what you think.)

Jo’s note: There are always interesting conversations to be had with Westprint correspondents. A few weeks ago, Alan and I were discussing the first grain stripper-harvesters.

This came about because here in the Wimmera we are having a bumper harvest – mostly. The very wet year and no spring season has brought its own challenges. In nearly all areas around here the surface soil has dried …until you drive a very large and heavy harvester or truck across the paddock. A social media page called ‘Bogged in the crop 2022’ is worth a look.

I thought the first grain strippers were built by the Sunshine Company as this was the brand of the one I used to play on at my Grandparents place. However, Alan had a much more interesting story…

(photo of a stripper that didn’t copy)

Many readers would have seen machines similar to that pictured above in museums and abandoned in fields around the country. It is the Wheat Stripper used in harvesting the crop all over Australia. The story of its invention may be of interest to readers of Friday Five.

In the hot South Australian summer of 1842, the first extensive wheat crop stood ready to harvest but was facing a severe shortage of workers. Harvesting at that time was carried out manually by the use of a hand-held reap-hook or sickle but South Australia had a severe shortage of labour. A mechanised means of harvesting was desperately needed and my Great Grandfather, John Wrathall Bull, as a farmer of the time, had been giving much thought as to how this may be attained. Whilst demonstrating the ripeness of the grain crop to one of his workers he hit upon a notion, not only to reap but simultaneously separate the grain from heads and enlisted the assistance of his son-in-law to construct a working model of his invention.

In June of 1843, a group called the ‘Corn Exchange Committee’ conducted a competition for the best invention to mechanically harvest the crops and in the hive of innovation that followed, everyone with any mechanical ability was putting their mind to the task. John Bull had the advantage of his earlier inspiration and had his model already. His concept was a horse-drawn machine carrying a horizontal comb to support the standing straws whilst a rapidly rotating set of beater blades acted upon the wheat heads to both detach them from the straws and at the same time perform separation of the grain.

On the night of the judging, 12th September 1843, the venue of Payne’s Auction Mart Tavern was bulging at the seams with reportedly over 100 people. This large number made it impossible for the judges to apply serious consideration to the many submissions so the meeting was adjourned to the following week with only exhibitors and judges to be present. As it turned out a further three meetings were required and even then the judges were not able to decide if any submission was worthy of the 40 Pound ($80) prize. At this point Bull determined that his pressing farm demands allowed him no further time to develop his machine and he left his model in the office of the Committee with the expression that the “design should be made available for the benefit of all South Australians”.

Of particular interest is that a gentleman named John Ridley, a flour miller, was present at the judging although neither as an exhibitor nor judge but merely observing. Mr Ridley had been endeavouring for some time to develop a harvesting machine and had trialed several models without success using a scheme of knives to cut the heads from the stalks. On 15 November 1843, eight weeks after the public display of Bull’s model, Ridley demonstrated a successful machine incorporating Bull’s comb-and-beaters principle. Much praise was heaped upon Ridley without any credit being given to Bull for his invention and within a few years some 30 thousand of the machines were produced in various forms by a number of manufacturers.

In the fullness of time, history has come to acknowledge that whilst Ridley did produce the first working machine it was an outcome of Bull’s invention and in 1852, nine years after the invention, the South Australian Government awarded Bull the sum of ‘250 Pounds’ ($33,785 in today’s value) in recognition of his contribution to the agricultural community.

John Ridley returned to England in 1853 leaving John Wrathall Bull to follow his pursuits in South Australia where he notably contributed much to the society, not the least his gift of his Stripper invention. Sadly, Bull’s model has long been lost but sketches and notes of the design remain in the family and State Archives.

Allan Bull

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 13, 2023 11:24 am

feelthebernsays:

January 13, 2023 at 9:11 am

They are selling dairy cow (Friesian) sirloin for $55,

I saw that on the menu.
I can’t remember seeing Friesian on a menu before.

Oh, it will have been on menus before.
As mince and sausages.
Look, there’s nothing to say a yearling Friesan steer wouldn’t be good eating. And they are a big-boned animal, much bigger than Jerseys, so can be cross-bred with beef breeds without complications.
In fact, you sometimes see x-breed Friesian-Herefords around our area.
Easy to spot. Precisely the same marking patterns as the Hereford, except black and white, not maroon and white.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 13, 2023 11:24 am

Carole Cook has died.
(No, I didn’t know who she was either.)

Zipster
Zipster
January 13, 2023 11:24 am

That is not the fault of gender equality. That is the fault of economic inequality

wow smutley takes a rake straight to the forehead, parroting straight up trot talking points from 100 years ago.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 13, 2023 11:27 am

So what is your solution to economic inequality Munty. Is it taking from those who have more at gunpoint and giving it to those who have less while taking a leetle skim while doing so?

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2023 11:27 am

ALP NT Minister Nicole Mannison (BA Journalism and Public Relations Studies)

Oh dear. Strike Two (Strike Three if you include living in the ACT. As you should).

Zipster
Zipster
January 13, 2023 11:31 am

them harmless surplus trade dollars at work

University that housed Biden center pressed to end FBI China spy probe after big Beijing donations
University of Pennsylvania, which hosted the Penn Biden Center where classified documents were found in November, received $47.7 million from China in the three years when Biden was affiliated with it.

Jorge
Jorge
January 13, 2023 11:31 am

Ok, ok, those words came to mind as I was typing and making a point about the idea of a people being judged. I take calli’s point about each one of us through our sins being responsible for the suffering and death of Christ.

I was thinking more about abortion and the way in which it has found widespread support in countries where once it was regarded with horror. Euthanasia, homos and trans people, even divorce – our kids and grandkids inherit these from us and suffer accordingly.

Perhaps we’ll self destruct or perhaps Islam will sober us up.

rosie
rosie
January 13, 2023 11:32 am

In no way do I interpret Perrottet’s re a state funeral for Cardinal Pell as suggesting he wasn’t worthy, but that as a Catholic Cardinal, it would be irrelevant, which it is.
I attended a Requiem mass for Cardinal Pell this morning conducted by someone who knew him for a very long time, and who was very regretful that he could no longer call the state of Victoria home, so greatly had he been maligned and vilified, thus limiting his contact with his staunch Victorian friends to phone calls and letters.
I consider Dan Andrews chief Victorian detractor, one day he’ll get to answer for his calumnies.
A family member prays for Andrews but says it’s very hard work.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
January 13, 2023 11:33 am

I wonder if there are any photos of young Albo in a hammer and sickle teeshirt or a Mao suit.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2023 11:33 am

wow smutley takes a rake straight to the forehead, parroting straight up trot talking points from 100 years ago.

Most of mUnty’s arguments you would have from someone failing a BA (or Econs 101 as it turns out) in a university tavern if you could be bothered.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 13, 2023 11:34 am

ML at 10:46.

The team concluded that his personality was choleric, but that he personally contained too much lipid in his sanguine and it was this imbalance of humours and hamburgers that killed him.

But mostly the hamburgers.
With processed cheese.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 13, 2023 11:36 am

JCsays:

January 13, 2023 at 11:08 am

Armstrong is a crook.

Neil?
Or Martin?

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2023 11:37 am

I wonder if there are any photos of young Albo in a hammer and sickle teeshirt or a Mao suit.

Could he afford one?

Miltonf
Miltonf
January 13, 2023 11:37 am

The NSW lieboral government started with great promise in 2012. Instead it’s leaving the start in worse shape than Carr Iemma etc left it. The give away of power stations, valuable state assets to cronies has been beyond disgusting.

m0nty
m0nty
January 13, 2023 11:39 am

So what is your solution to economic inequality Munty. Is it taking from those who have more at gunpoint and giving it to those who have less while taking a leetle skim while doing so?

If you want to make it 1957 again, how about we reinstate ye olde income tax regime where the top marginal tax rate was over 75%.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2023 11:40 am

In no way do I interpret Perrottet’s re a state funeral for Cardinal Pell as suggesting he wasn’t worthy, but that as a Catholic Cardinal, it would be irrelevant, which it is

I’m not sure I would give Dom the benefit of the doubt.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 13, 2023 11:41 am

C.L.says:

January 13, 2023 at 11:16 am

Personally I think it a wonderful thing that the Cardinal will not have the indignity of a state funeral…

This.

The story was simply invented by a journalist to give Andrews a ball to volley.

No.
A Victorian political j’ism wouldn’t dare go there of their own volition.
Dan’s minions lined up the Dorothy Dixer question in advance.

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2023 11:44 am

I have never seen Perrottet in the Grampians. Are we even sure he is a Nazi?

Pope Benedict was a member of the Hitler Youth.

I think we can begin to join the dots here.

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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 13, 2023 11:45 am

Today’s blog report.
The Bonhomie and Good Humour Index has improved markedly from the early hours, but we are seriously lacking in Thought Leadership.
The sudden death obituaries section is scattered and random as usual.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 13, 2023 11:52 am

Chill pill.

Placebo can reduce feelings of guilt, even when administered openly (via Phys.org, 12 Jan)

Guilt is an uncomfortable feeling and can be burdensome. Researchers at the University of Basel have shown that placebos can help reduce feelings of guilt, even when the placebo is administered openly.

Participants were then randomized to three conditions: Participants in one group were given placebo pills while being deceptively told that it was a real medication; the participants in another group were told that they were given a placebo. Both groups were told that what they had been given would be effective against feelings of guilt. The control group was given no treatment at all. The results showed that feelings of guilt were significantly reduced in both placebo groups compared to those without medication.

There you go: taking something, anything, will let you feel less guilty after you’ve faceplanted.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2023 11:53 am

Roger, thanks. I will do up a spreadsheet for a subscription model. I can’t afford to be giving this stuff away for free. Finally time to apply some Martin Armstrong economics.

JC
JC
January 13, 2023 11:54 am

Getting back to a subject from last evening where leadership reckoned he considered pit bull owners a little better than the owner of a Bichan Frise.

Damage caused to the young kid.
Pic 1.

Pic 2.

Part of this poor little kid’s mouth is missing.

Pic 3

More here if you can stomach it.

https://rc4ps.org/warning-gallery-of-pit-bull-attack-victims/

Stats:

Pit bulls bite more humans than other breeds
In the 10 years from 2009 to 2018, pit bulls killed or maimed 3,569 people in the USA and Canada. (Merritt Clifton, Dog Attack Deaths & Maimings, U.S. & Canada, 1982-2018 Log.) They killed over 80% of all Americans who are killed by dogs.

Leave!

Vicki
Vicki
January 13, 2023 11:56 am

Re: Seeing Friesian dairy cow meat for sale

Like many retail food items, beef is subject to fashion. I have never understood why Angus meat is regarded above Hereford, for example. In my humble opinion, Hereford is far superior.

Granted, Wagyu is very tasty. But many other breeds (eg Belted Galloways) have marbled meat. But other factors enter the equation. The Galloways render far less meat for the butcher to sell, being a smaller animal. Hence, they do not sell well in the sale yards.

But again, fashion holds sway. Grain fed animals, for example, were once preferred – since it was erroneously believed it produced better quality meat. I notice that “grass fed” is making a comeback. Good, I have never approved of the conditions of many feedlots.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 13, 2023 11:56 am

Rogersays:

January 13, 2023 at 9:11 am

Cricket Australia, claiming government support, has pulled out of a ODI with Afghanistan in Maqrch, citing deterioration in that country’s treatment fo women as the reason.

Because isolating them further is the way to go, apparently.

The Law of Unintended Consequences.
One of the biggest drawcards and most popular players in the BBL, Afghani Rashid Khan has said “you can stick your BBL where the sun don’t shine”.
Risk free virtue signalling suddenly has risk attached.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 13, 2023 11:58 am

Like many retail food items, beef is subject to fashion. I have never understood why Angus meat is regarded above Hereford, for example. In my humble opinion, Hereford is far superior.

The key difference?
The Hereford marketing people were left standing at the start line.

Cassie of Sydney
January 13, 2023 11:59 am

“I have never seen Perrottet in the Grampians. Are we even sure he is a Nazi?”

Daniel Andrews knows where all the Nazis are in Victoria.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 13, 2023 11:59 am

I once appeared as a Nazi in a production of Cabaret.

If you chaps all form a line I will apologise to all of you.

Vicki
Vicki
January 13, 2023 12:02 pm

Although The Australian has fallen by the wayside of late, I did like the huge, bold headline description of Cardinal Pell as “GOD’S STRONG MAN”.

Well done.

JC
JC
January 13, 2023 12:09 pm

Just unreal.

Biden, a former Vice President…….
The justice department may not emerge unscathed either. Biden’s documents were found in early November, before the midterm elections, yet the public weren’t informed.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 13, 2023 12:09 pm

Pope Benedict was a member of the Hitler Youth.

I think we can begin to join the dots here.

IIRR, Benedict’s military service was as a ‘flak helfer’ – helping crew anti aircraft guns. Given the strategic bombing campaign underway against Germany at the time, I think he could fairly claim the ‘Self’ defence over the ‘Nuremberg’ defence.

Vicki
Vicki
January 13, 2023 12:11 pm

Jo Nova has an excellent discussion of an article appearing in the Nature magazine concerning the decline of “disruptive science” which introduces new and controversial ideas.

As depressing as it is, this is an important development that we must understand as we enter unknown waters.

Kozlov, Max (2023) ‘Disruptive’ science has declined — and no one knows why, Nature 613, 225 (2023) doi: https://doi.org/10.1038/d41586-022-04577-5

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 13, 2023 12:12 pm

This is for Zulu and Farmer Gez. An article from today’s Westprint email that may be of interest. (Jo is the editor of the newsletter.)

Interesting post Mak Siccar, thank you. Cite you the Eastern Wheatbelt wheatgrower, who bought a Hedly Spry harvester, and was so impressed with the performance, he named his newborn son in it’s honour…

m0nty
m0nty
January 13, 2023 12:12 pm

The ‘performance art’ was the old law that has no enforcement mechanism for failures to actually render assistance to children that survive an abortion. That is what you mean by the ‘prospect of lawsuits’. What you and the Dems fear is the law actually being enforceable. You want to mouth that you support the principle but never being held to account for failing to do so.

What you want is to criminalise offering medical assistance to pregnant mothers, to scare providers out of the profession.

Doubling down on the massive electoral failure of the Dobbs coalition seems a courageous ploy.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 13, 2023 12:16 pm

I mentioned upthread that the gulf between progressives and normal people is now so huge that culture can’t be redirected. It’s interesting then to see a whole research paper from lefties trying and failing to understand righties.

Study examines how the Spanish far right frames traditional perspectives as ‘love’ (Phys.org, 12 Jan)

“Very conservative ideologies use love for the same reason as the left, the mainstream right and any other type of ideology. This political trend doesn’t use love to hide its true face, which is a rejection of those who don’t identify with its values. This political tendency loves—but the problem is what it loves. It loves a Spain which is a single nation and exclusive. The far right generates hate for the things it loves, but that love is completely genuine,” explained Alexandre Pichel.

As the researchers point out in the article, love is used as a tool for establishing a difference between “us” (traditional families, white men and native Spaniards) and “them,” who may be the elite (embodied in the governing classes and feminism) or those who are different (non-traditional families or migrants). To that end, the leaders of the far right create this feeling in their speeches through their relationship with the family, equality and violence.

Two observations: first they do not mention Christianity or Catholicism anywhere in the article, which is fun given Spain’s deep history. And second they sound like blind men trying to explain what colour is. It’s funny. They have no idea at all, they’re completely mystified by us.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 13, 2023 12:16 pm

Disruptive’ science has declined — and no one knows why,

As a doctor (with a first class epidemiology degree and dozens of publications also) who was cancelled for COVID dissent, I have a few clues….

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 13, 2023 12:25 pm

Biden, a former Vice President…….
The justice department may not emerge unscathed either. Biden’s documents were found in early November, before the midterm elections, yet the public weren’t informed.

This is why the DOJ was walking back the allegations against Trump pre the mid-terms.
They had the Biden docs to deal with.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 13, 2023 12:27 pm

I can’t believe Macca’s are now selling potato scallops.
Stay in your lane Macca’s.
Leave the greasy spoons alone.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 13, 2023 12:28 pm

My bet on the Black Sea Fleet is off to the Sea of Asov to conduct missile attacks East of the Dneiper in the counter-offensive. Being a much shorter distance it gives the ukes less time to respond. We’ll see.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 13, 2023 12:29 pm

Broken Hill Proprietary looks like cracking the $50.00 mark…

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 13, 2023 12:29 pm

If you want to make it 1957 again, how about we reinstate ye olde income tax regime where the top marginal tax rate was over 75%.

Done.
Provided the % of government take is limited to the 1957 % of GDP.
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Or is a limit on government spending a bridge too far for you?

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 13, 2023 12:31 pm

Snowden laughing at Biden’s document snafu on twitter.

bons
bons
January 13, 2023 12:31 pm

Nazi!
Phhht.
What about a bottle of wine?
The phrase you are looking for is “so what” jelly liberals.

Kneel
Kneel
January 13, 2023 12:34 pm

“Also…that walnut table. Tree killers!”

No, no, no – it’s “carbon sequestration” see? That tree pulled CO2 out of the air to make wood, and now that CO2 will remain in wood form for decades, maybe even centuries.

That is if Biden does it, of course – if Trump does it, he’s a tree killer.

Black Ball
Black Ball
January 13, 2023 12:34 pm

Fair to say it hasn’t been monty’s finest hours this last week.
From defending trannies reading books to kids, to his joyful glee at Pell’s death, to now supporting the murder of babies minutes after their first breath is drawn.
Quite the individual.

P
P
January 13, 2023 12:35 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2023 12:35 pm

I can’t believe Macca’s are now selling potato scallops

Half of Australia, “What’s a potato scallop?”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 13, 2023 12:35 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
January 13, 2023 at 12:29 pm
Broken Hill Proprietary looks like cracking the $50.00 mark…

Pleased to report that we own [Snip! Please. No blowharding about personal wealth. Dover]. in BHP shares.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2023 12:37 pm

Fair to say it hasn’t been monty’s finest hours this last week.

He’s a fukwit on so many levels.

Miltonf
Miltonf
January 13, 2023 12:37 pm

Hard to believe such a vile individual actually exists. Sadly such persons do.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 13, 2023 12:38 pm

Biden, a former Vice President…….
The justice department may not emerge unscathed either. Biden’s documents were found in early November, before the midterm elections, yet the public weren’t informed.

And I doubt, as a mere VP, he can claim Presidential privilege to de-classify as Trump can.

calli
calli
January 13, 2023 12:39 pm

On the McDonalds horror story – They’re stealing our spuds!

I didn’t know there was a spud shortage. I only use them for the occasional salmon rissole.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 13, 2023 12:40 pm

Pleased to report that we own [Snip! Please. No blowharding about personal wealth. Dover]. in BHP shares.

My family has owned B.H.P. shares, since dividends were paid by cheque, in pounds, shillings and pence.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 13, 2023 12:42 pm

Somare, Whitlam praised for roles in PNG independence
Staff writers
STAFF WRITERS

Anthony Albanese has paid tribute to former prime ministers Michael Somare and Gough Whitlam for their roles in Papua New Guinea achieveing independence in 1975.

Speaking in Wewak at the grave site of Grand Chief Sir Michael Somare, the Prime Minister said it had been important part of his trip to visit the memorial to the man known as the father of independence in PNG.

“Sir Michael Somare will of course live on through his contribution to Papua New Guinea, as an independent, strong, vibrant nation into the future,” Mr Albanese said.

“In a couple of years’ time, we will commemorate the 50th anniversary of independence for PNG. Of course, we had self-government from 1973 and ’74 … the lead-up to 1975 was most important.

“I said to the parliament yesterday that the importance of this historical event was that you didn’t see the tearing down of a flag.

“You didn’t see a revolution. What you saw was a peaceful transition, due to the leadership particularly of Sir Michael Somare, but also on this occasion I pay tribute to the late Gough Whitlam as well.

“It took two leaders coming together, in the interests of their people, to see Papua New Guinea thrive into the future as an independent state.”

Mr Albanese said the two countries’ futures, like their pasts, remained intertwined.

“We are connected. The stronger and more secure and more prosperous Papua New Guinea is, the stronger and more secure and prosperous Australia will be. And the same applies the other way around, which is why there is no more important relationship than between Australia and Papua New Guinea.

“It gives me a great honour, one of the honours of my life, has been addressing the Parliament and being here today to pay my respects to a great person of humanity.

“A legend, not just in Papua New Guinea, but throughout the world, for the leadership he showed up until creating independence for Papua New Guinea.

“I know that his children and grandchildren who are here with us today are so proud of the achievements of Sir Michael Somare.”

JC
JC
January 13, 2023 12:44 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2023 12:45 pm

BHP shares are like a Rolex Submainer watch. Possibly the most boring choice you could make but still hard to beat. They seem to abandoned dropping a few billion every few years on acquisitions (finally).

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2023 12:50 pm

I didn’t think Albo could avoid giving The Great Man a little wrist action in PNG. Who would take that bet?

JC
JC
January 13, 2023 12:52 pm

Bear

In the next two years Australia is going to lose about $150 billion in resource exports. China’s steel demand is crashing due to the oversupply in RE and coal isn’t going to hold up with other energy related commods crashing.

High yields in resource stocks are a big marker for trouble ahead.

m0nty
m0nty
January 13, 2023 12:54 pm

Done.
Provided the % of government take is limited to the 1957 % of GDP.

Done.

Means a lot of regressive consumption taxes get nixed as well. Win win!

rosie
rosie
January 13, 2023 12:55 pm

Been a potato shortage for several weeks. Frozen chips have been missing for a long time, walk down the frozen aisle there is a conspicuous gap, before that there was a 2 bag limit.

Dot
Dot
January 13, 2023 12:57 pm

monty agrees to go back to the 1950s.

What a day.

m0nty
m0nty
January 13, 2023 12:58 pm

How does requiring assistance being given to children that survive an abortion mean ‘criminalise offering medical assistance to pregnant mothers’?

The word requiring is doing a lot of work there. What you mean is “requiring under constant threat of career-destroying lawsuits on vague grounds”.

The law is poorly worded and needlessly broad, and it was designed that way by extremists to scare doctors away from helping pregnant mothers. Thankfully, it will not become law.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 13, 2023 12:58 pm

One for Monty.

Taxman – Beatles (1966)

Wiki: “Written by the group’s lead guitarist, George Harrison, with some lyrical assistance from John Lennon, it protests against the higher level of progressive tax imposed in the United Kingdom by the Labour government of Harold Wilson, which saw the Beatles paying over 90 per cent of their earnings to the Treasury.

rosie
rosie
January 13, 2023 12:59 pm

Ooh Qantas shares are back to $6.50.
(I bought mine with my own savings)

rosie
rosie
January 13, 2023 1:04 pm

Indolent will be pleased to know he can now add Lisa Marie Presley to his ‘died suddenly’ list.

m0nty
m0nty
January 13, 2023 1:06 pm

I mean, it is a valiant effort by religious right nutballs to look at 2022 and think the productive course of action is to start a new offensive in the culture wars on ground in which they just lost a monumental battle.

You are like Bart Simpson shouting MORE ASBESTOS, MORE ASBESTOS.

Crossie
Crossie
January 13, 2023 1:07 pm

Rosie, Lisa Marie Presley has been reported to have died of a heart attack though I think her lifestyle may have had a lot to do with it.

rosie
rosie
January 13, 2023 1:09 pm

And there is a family history, her father and grandfather.

Anchor What
Anchor What
January 13, 2023 1:10 pm

Dover, you can have Monty if you like, but I’m not going to contribute if I open the page and find his defecation all over it.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 13, 2023 1:14 pm

something you support to the fullest as the parties you vote for are the playthings of the rich.

LOL. Even after the discussion yesterday about Liars leaders and the titans of Big Business, m0nty=fa has still not worked out which party is in the pocket of Big Business. He’s a bit slow, the evidence has been building up for most of his adult life.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 13, 2023 1:16 pm

I can’t believe Macca’s are now selling potato scallops.
Stay in your lane Macca’s.
Leave the greasy spoons alone.

Cultural appropriation.
A huge slice of King Edward, battered and deep fried to crispy perfection – served with traditional ‘chicken’ tikka masala sauce and eaten in the sleet huddled in a bus shelter.
Tops off an evening on the wee heavies to perfection.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 13, 2023 1:20 pm

Anchor What, don’t let the door hit your arse on the way out. Telling Dover how to run his blog is not on. As much as munty is a fool of the highest order and as repulsive in his leftist ways, he is a shining light why nobody should listen to the left.

Dot
Dot
January 13, 2023 1:21 pm

You are like Bart Simpson shouting MORE ASBESTOS, MORE ASBESTOS.

…Bart won, LOL.

Are you Prince Harry’s ghostwriter?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 13, 2023 1:22 pm

Lisa Marie Prezzo owned 100% of Graceland and everything in it. An absolute invitation for grifters across the globe to saddle up.

The courts will be chockers for years.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 13, 2023 1:23 pm

m0ntysays:
January 13, 2023 at 11:39 am
So what is your solution to economic inequality Munty. Is it taking from those who have more at gunpoint and giving it to those who have less while taking a leetle skim while doing so?

If you want to make it 1957 again, how about we reinstate ye olde income tax regime where the top marginal tax rate was over 75%.

m0nty=fa’s short answer: “Yes”.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 13, 2023 1:26 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
January 13, 2023 at 11:59 am
“I have never seen Perrottet in the Grampians. Are we even sure he is a Nazi?”

Daniel Andrews knows where all the Nazis are in Victoria.

Mostly in his party?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 13, 2023 1:27 pm

Are you Prince Harry’s ghostwriter?

Monty ghostwriting for Sparkles and Spare would be perfect.

Kneel
Kneel
January 13, 2023 1:29 pm

“LOL I knew someone would bring up the IRS. Nup, that is just protecting the rich. Next!”

That turns out not to be the case.

Let’s say you are a mug punter and pay $5k/year tax. If the IRS sends you a letter saying you owe an extra 1% of that ($50), you’ll grumble, but then just pay it because it’s not worth the time and money to fight it.

However, if you are Elon Musk, and your tax bill is $11 BILLION, then a 1% increase is $110M – it’s worthwhile talking it to court and paying $1M in lawyers fees if you can reduce the extra by just 1% (you’ll save $1.1M, pay $1M and have $9k in your pocket). If you get it completely reversed, you just saved yourself $109M – hardly chump change.

The IRS know this – that’s why official figures show the IRS does this (and audits) much more for low income earners than high income earners – those who get a low income government allowance are several times more likely to be audited than the top 1% of earners.

So when you double the budget of the IRS, where do you think they’ll spend it? Assuming they already have enough to do the “basics”, pretty much all they CAN spend it on is more audits. And that hits…. the lowest income earners hardest, and the highest income earners least.

Exactly the opposite of what you suggest.
Try again, M0nty.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 13, 2023 1:29 pm

What you want is to criminalise offering medical assistance to pregnant mothers, to scare providers out of the profession.

What m0nty=fa means by “medical support” is “abortions”. The abortion industry attacks every attempt to provide actual medical and counselling support to pregnant mothers.

Keep twisting the meaning of words, m0nty=fa. It demonstrates what an empty head you have.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 13, 2023 1:30 pm

medical assistance …

duncanm
duncanm
January 13, 2023 1:30 pm

Disruptive’ science has declined — and no one knows why,

Their answer is right there in that statement. “We dunno” !

It’s a mystery, wrapped in a riddle, buried in an enigma.

Zipster
Zipster
January 13, 2023 1:33 pm

Income tax and capital gains tax to be abolished . Gov needs to be slashed by a minimum of 75%. All transfer payments to be abolished, there is 50% of gov spending right there. time to get the gov life sucking python off people’s back and throats and back to basic role of gov.

problem fixed.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 13, 2023 1:39 pm

Earlier today, I commented that m0nty=fa had not yet commented on the Biden classified documents issue, and he had avoided any recent reference to the Twatter files. I suggested that to avoid any potential embarrassment, he would focus on abortion.

And here we are.

Zipster
Zipster
January 13, 2023 1:41 pm

Exactly the opposite of what you suggest.
Try again, M0nty.

smutley works on the sounds good test… does it sound good to a 14yo girl?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Now that his cover is blown, any word on when Gauleiter Perrotet will cancel the upcoming election?
Will this happen before or after he changes the name from Liberal party to their true name?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Zipster @ 1.33pm is correct.

rosie
rosie
January 13, 2023 1:44 pm

Hopefully LMP’s estate goes neatly to her three surviving children.
Poor kids.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 13, 2023 1:44 pm

You are like Bart Simpson shouting MORE ASBESTOS, MORE ASBESTOS.

As opposed to Josef Mengle screaming more dead babies, more dead babies.

Monty is afear’t one of those born alive babies might grow up and gyp him out of a doughnut.

Scene: a speakeasy, 1920’s USA.
Big Monst: I have a little problem I want dealt with
Dr Toecrusher Johnson: How little
Big Monst: 9 months, still breathing on the table
Dr Toecrusher Johnson: Its illegal
Big Monst: But theres no penalty attached to the law
Dr Toecrusher Johnson: Nah, those fanatics have just passed a law placing penalties on the legislation now
Big Monst: So leaving babies to die is not only against the law, but you can have a penalty inflicted on you for doing so?
Dr Toecrusher Johnson: Yup
Big Monst: Curse you fascist bastards not letting me arrange for a baby to be allowed to be exposed and die a lingering death for my convenience…

This is what Monty wants to happen.
‘They were left to die’: Call for inquiry into case of 27 premature babies born alive in WA
WA upper house MP Nick Goiran thinks it should be front page news. But the deaths of 27 babies born alive in Western Australia and ‘left to die’ with no medical treatment after abortion procedures, have barely made a ripple in the state’s fast-paced news cycle over the last two decades.

Questions asked in parliament by Mr Goiran reveal that of the 27 babies born alive following an abortion, six were born with signs of life at 26-weeks or older and 15 between 20 and 25 weeks. The remaining five babies fall outside of these age brackets.

Abortions were decriminalised in Western Australia in 1998, but are only legal after 20 weeks gestation if the mother, or the unborn child, have a severe medical condition that – in the clinical judgment of two expert doctors – justifies the procedure.

Mr Goiran, a pro-life parliamentarian who tabled the petition, believes the circumstances of the deaths should be thoroughly investigated, especially given parliamentary questioning revealed “no record of medical intervention or resuscitation”.

“As soon as you’re born live, you are entitled to all of the same rights and privileges as any other Western Australian citizen.

Perhaps monty disagrees and finds them life not worthy of life.

m0nty
m0nty
January 13, 2023 1:48 pm

So when you double the budget of the IRS, where do you think they’ll spend it? Assuming they already have enough to do the “basics”, pretty much all they CAN spend it on is more audits. And that hits…. the lowest income earners hardest, and the highest income earners least.

Most of the US$80B in funding that the bill rescinds is for the “basics”.

“The reality is the $80 billion boost would be spread throughout the agency, with money flowing to enforcement, taxpayer services, operations, and modernization,” wrote Janet Holtzblatt, a senior fellow at the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center.

The Inflation Reduction Act dictates that about $45.6 billion will go toward strengthening enforcement activities – including collecting taxes owed, providing legal support, conducting criminal investigations and providing digital asset monitoring. But the IRS has not specified how many auditors will be hired.

More than $25 billion is allocated to support IRS operations, including expenses like rent payments, printing, postage and telecommunications.

Nearly $4.8 billion can be used for modernizing the agency’s customer service technology, like developing a callback service.

Roughly $3 billion is allocated for taxpayer assistance, filing and account services.

Also:

The Inflation Reduction Act says that the new investment in the IRS is not “intended to increase taxes on any taxpayer or small business with a taxable income below $400,000.”

So much for it being targeted at low income earners.

Every one of your talking points is a lie, as usual.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 13, 2023 1:49 pm

any word on when Gauleiter Perrotet will cancel the upcoming election?

So cynical! And here I was thinking he would lose heroically then get a job with Macquarie Bank.
Yes, there’s still a terrible emergency though, since Joe extended it yesterday for another 90 days.

Attention Please, COVID Is Not Over. We Repeat, COVID Is Not Over (11 Jan)

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 13, 2023 1:50 pm

Lisa Marie Presley brown bread.

Only 54 too.

Robert Sewell
January 13, 2023 1:51 pm

Bespoke:

i can’t even imagine the feelings of alienation, shame, dread, loss, and just pure regret. every single day

There will be a reckoning for this butchery one day.
Los Mutilados indeed!

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2023 1:53 pm

Been a potato shortage for several weeks. Frozen chips have been missing for a long time, walk down the frozen aisle there is a conspicuous gap, before that there was a 2 bag limit.

Looks like taste.com.au might have dubbed 2023 the year of the humble spud too soon.

Tom
Tom
January 13, 2023 1:54 pm

Joe Bilden’s big mistake wasn’t agreeing to be the Democratic Party’s frontman for the 2020 coup, but in saying recently that he would run again in 2024.

Biden has exceeded his shelf-life as the Dems’ useful idiot in the White House and the party is now signalling it’s time for him to make way for the next puppet.

Tucker Carlson Tonight.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 13, 2023 1:59 pm

All transfer payments to be abolished, there is 50% of gov spending right there.

Over 50% of the vote herd receive some sort of transfer payment.
Big Government is in harmony with Big Welfare – careers and employment opportunities rest on it.

It will be there to the very last flicker…

Robert Sewell
January 13, 2023 2:01 pm

Bruce O’Newk:

Interesting that the elites are starting to realize what a big mistake they made with the repression of discussion of Covid and the vaccines.

Three great acts of intellectual repression have been enacted over the last decade – Climate, Vaccines, and the Trans Phenomena. All of them happened with no realistic input from the people most affected, and in all three cases people were gaoled/harassed and adversely affected or punished for their views.
This last decade has broken the mould.
Thank God for that.

m0nty
m0nty
January 13, 2023 2:03 pm

Abortions were decriminalised in Western Australia in 1998, but are only legal after 20 weeks gestation if the mother, or the unborn child, have a severe medical condition that – in the clinical judgment of two expert doctors – justifies the procedure.

WA doctor: I’m sorry but your child has no chance of survival, its every breath will be wrackingly painful and it will suffer more the longer it lives.

Mother (sobbing uncontrollably): … okay doctor, do what you must.

mole and db with the local bishop and constabulary (rushing in): STOP, you must preserve and cherish the life of this precious gift from God!!

WA doctor: … but the child is going to die, there is nothing that can be done.

mole & db: Officers, arrest this doctor and this mother, we can’t be having medical decisions made by people with such poor ethics. Bring in the faith healers to lay hands and form a prayer circle, stat!

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2023 2:03 pm

Erm…I don’t want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but

NSW fast tracks mRNA vaccines for livestock

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 13, 2023 2:04 pm

Infidel Tiger’s mate in WA with the bushy eye brows would have to be Australia’s first potato billionaire.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 13, 2023 2:05 pm

The Inflation Reduction Act says that the new investment in the IRS is not “intended to increase taxes on any taxpayer or small business with a taxable income below $400,000.”

Except thats not true.
chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://gop-waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/D-16-22.pdf

And there is this which the Demonrats voted against.

Senate Democrats voted “no” on an amendment offered by Senator Crapo to prohibit the IRS from using new funds to audit families and businesses earning less than $400,000.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 13, 2023 2:05 pm

Dover, you forgot ‘bye’.

Tom
Tom
January 13, 2023 2:05 pm

Been a potato shortage for several weeks.

Yep. My local IGA no longer has the usual varieties of chips. I’m now forced to buy something called Potato Utopia Crispy Fries or no-name-brand fat chips.

m0nty
m0nty
January 13, 2023 2:06 pm

Who would be undertaking a lawsuit in the case of a child surviving an abortion that is arguably given inadequate medical attention?

There are many fronts for extremist religious groups in America who would love to take up such a case, as part of their ongoing campaign to put abortion providers out of business.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 13, 2023 2:07 pm

Rogersays:
January 13, 2023 at 2:03 pm

Erm…I don’t want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but

NSW fast tracks mRNA FMD and Lumpy Skin Disease vaccines

A fast tracked FMD vaccine sounds appropriate.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 13, 2023 2:07 pm

Did monty just advocate for killing all premmie born babies in his mongoloid hypothetical?

Why yes, yes he did.

Zipster
Zipster
January 13, 2023 2:10 pm
Robert Sewell
January 13, 2023 2:11 pm

Calli:

The boy had better not cry “wolf” again. No one will take a scrap of notice.

That’s the incoming issue, Calli.
We are now set up for a real crisis with a disease, and no one will be trusting the authorities.
It’s a huge bind the industry has put mankind in, and all for just a few hundred Billion dollars.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
January 13, 2023 2:13 pm

Funnily, Tony Galati’s name was on my mind when I was daring McGowan to cross the room for introductions. His very first act as premier was to instruct the discontinuation of Western Potatoes v Galati- a civil case. Unprecedented and unlawful arrogance.
It wouldn’t have saved the spud industry culture, but it was an indication of the corruption which would go on to help him in his act of attainder v Clive Palmer, and the totalitarian appetite which led him to readily trample everything we held dear for the Wuhan Flu lockdowns and lockouts.

m0nty
m0nty
January 13, 2023 2:14 pm

There are two main lies being told about this Born Alive bill:

Lie #1: the basis of the bill is not bipartisan policy agreement, as per the 2002 bill;

Lie #2: the added potential for lawsuits is not intended solely to put abortion providers out of business.

You can keep on telling those lies in post after post, but that’s doesn’t make them true.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 13, 2023 2:21 pm

Now monty is advocating medical malpractice (in this case killing a baby) not be subject to any sanction.

You hysterical uterus you.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 13, 2023 2:22 pm

So what is your solution to economic inequality Munty.

In a free market*, no solution is necessary or possible – just as fibonnaci numbers are feature of nature, so too is the pareto principle in economics – whatever the endeavour is, a small subset of the population is better at it than everyone else. They are disproportionately responsible for the bulk of economic output – trying to stamp that out makes us all poorer.

* I know – we don’t have a free market – we have not had for decades.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 13, 2023 2:23 pm

Lefties appear to love killing babies. When they’re not doing that they’re choosing not to breed for the Planet. This is going to be the quickest self-extinction of a subspecies in biologic history.

JC
JC
January 13, 2023 2:24 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity says:
January 13, 2023 at 1:42 pm

Zipster @ 1.33pm is correct.

Don’t ya just love it when the FNQ loser directs traffic telling us who is correct and isn’t. We always needed the two-bit loser in our lives to tell us. FMD.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Stuphid, STFU & stop telling us what to post & not post.
Stick to welching on bets & frequenting female-friendly locales.

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